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Because seeing older man/younger woman couples is not unusual, whereas seeing the opposite is EXTREMELY rare. It’s a basic fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:30 PM
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That was a misdirection. She wouldn’t care if you flirted with everyone if you were hot enough. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:34 PM
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Bollocks. A child pestering for candy is not a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:23 AM
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I have never in my life known a woman to like when men show emotions. Never. I have seen loads of women complain that their men do not show emotions. These look like the same thing, BUT THEY ARE NOT. Women saying they want something does not mean they ACTUALLY want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:57 AM
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“I don’t need no man” is something young women say because they think it sounds cool. Talk to actual, grown up woman…esp those that are married (i.e. SUCCESSFUL). They’ll all tell you that they couldn’t imagine life without their man. Men and women need each other. Period. It is the foundation of our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:20 AM
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Then that thing (threat) is the problem, not the pestering. Pestering is just words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:13 AM
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“Pestering” is bad, but it is not “duress”. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from walking away (literally or metaphorically).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:58 AM
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As usual, this is stupidly reductive. What is “asking”? A kiss? A gentle touch? A slightly longer than normal hug? A direct proposition?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:02 AM
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Looks fade, but doesn’t that make looks even MORE important when young? If you only have a limited time to appreciate someone beautiful, then that time and that beauty is even more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:09 AM
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Yep. And the looks threshold is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:07 AM
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1850? Try 1650!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:03 AM
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Developed societies are not much more urbanised than they were 25 years ago, but the dating Alabama’s have fundamentally shifted. If it is mono-causal, that cause is mobile internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:55 AM
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What was this “career” that she “sacrificed”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:52 AM
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By this definition pretty much every marriage is 50/50, even SAMHs are “50/50” since they earn no money and put in 50% of what they earn (nothing) into the family finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:47 AM
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“ First most people practicing 50/50 understand you can’t split it exactly down the middle if there is an income disparity.” This sounds like a really convoluted way of saying: women rely financially on their men. “Oh, babe, we’re 50/50! Even though you pay for everything….but you make more! We are EQUAL PARTNERS, so I get an equal say in everything despite not providing equal value!” Very typical for the present day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:45 AM
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….you're acting like NO man thinks like I do (I can assure you, that all, or nearly all, men think exactly as I’ve described).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:42 AM
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Utterly pointless navel gazing. There is no such thing as a society in which men are just valued for existing. Such a society has never, and will never, exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:32 AM
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Again, none of that is how men work. You’re treating him as if he’s a woman. For men. love or attraction are not binary things, on or off. You’re either in the ‘yes’ column, or the ‘no’ column. Unless you become horribly unattractive in some way you’re extremely unlikely to be moved from the ‘yes’ to the ‘no’. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:29 AM
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“ We’re all different, just like all men are different Not really. In my experience most people are pretty similar, when you get down to it. The expressions of those core drives might differ, but they aren’t fundamentally all that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:21 AM
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“Super useful” is a stretch. Even women’s relationship advice is basically boiling down to “Do everything for me, while making me feel like you’re in charge”. Typical immature, have-your-cake-and-eat-if nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:05 AM
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This is pure nonsense. Dating apps are infinitely easier. In real life you meet women randomly, have to navigate from whatever context you met into something romantic, and even if that works you then have to navigate all the people around you. It’s exhausting. On apps you KNOW you’re both there for a date. It’s the only reason you connected. It makes everything so much easier, clearer, and more direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:03 AM
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“ And he's obviously over me because he's seeing someone else” Yeah, that’s not how humans work. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:53 AM
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If you have to say anything you’re already sunk. NEVER “confess” anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:43 PM
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Yes, she is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:11 PM
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If those standards prevent you from finding a relationship and leave you ultimately unhappy then, yes, they are wrong. It’s the end result that determines whether or not something “wrong” , does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:17 AM
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“A lot” is doing some heavy lifting here. How many is “a lot”? 5% 59%?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:19 PM
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“ Because they have no honor, self-respect, or respect for others” Ah, yes. The holy trinity of what women find attractive: honour, respect, and….respect? Let’s face it: the more successful a man is, the more entitled he becomes, and the more likely he is to push things too far and not notice the reticence of the woman. As ever, the women here are firmly committed to the apex fallacy, even when discussing their villains.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:36 PM
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I’ll be honest, I think the consent thing has been wildly blown out of proportion. The men who might listen never needed the scolding to being with. The men who won’t listen never cared about consent in the first place. This is right up there with teaching people not to steal. It’s a ludicrous proposition borne of a complete disconnect with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:33 PM
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"the woman could not be ugly but since the guy know her he might not want a relationship with her and it could get messy if they " WOMEN think like this....men do not. For a man adding sex to a relationship they already enjoy is a pure positive. There are literally zero downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:25 AM
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The thing about male hobbies is that they can be expensive, but they store value rather than destroy it (unlike female hobbies). Sure, your husband has 17 guitars, but he could survive happily with 2-3 and sell the rest for a windfall, if needed. You can’t do that with “travel” or shoes (which tend to plummet in value, if they retain any at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:34 AM
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Female breadwinner marriages are overwhelmingly among the very poor (the woman is the breadwinner because the man is incapable of earning money), and “egalitarian” marriages, while much more common, are defined so loosely as to be meaningless. In my last serious relationship anyone would say we were “egalitarian” (similar age, same profession, etc), even though I made maybe 60% more each year (and that 60% basically decided the quality of our lives).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:31 AM
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This can happen, but it is pretty rare. A woman has to be pretty unattractive (bottom 15%) for a single man to reject her outright like that…..doubly so if they already enjoy each other’s company.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:17 AM
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As ever, don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. “Just be friends first” NEVER works. Women say it because it sounds nice (makes them look virtuous), and they can use it as an insult against men who struggle (oh, you’re just doing it wrong, and/or you’re immoral because you try to date women). In my experience, you either start dating right away, all at once, or never. Absolutely no middle ground, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:12 AM
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The house, food, clothing, any luxuries, and the freedom to spend their life with their kids rather than working some awful job represents a pretty substantial pay for what is ultimately menial work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:53 AM
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Everyone gets a pass once. When it becomes a trend my sympathy falls off pretty substantially….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:12 PM
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Those calculators are sort of bullshit though. They take the population as a whole, which is it how humans actually experience life. They’re meaningless for people living in a given community.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:13 AM
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Take any feminist statement and swap the word “woman” for “white” and “man” for “black”. You’ll see instantly that you basically have a supremacist movement on your hands. No less, no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:28 AM
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As a prostitute do you really think you’re seeing anything like a representative cross-section of society?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:11 PM
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So, all potential partners have equal value?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:51 PM
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You’re talking pure, ideological nonsense. Just parroting the same 2020s talking points. Gender roles might change (slightly) from one society to another, but the broad trends are universal and ancient. You cannot change hundreds of thousands if not millions of years of evolution (and yes, ‘social constructs’ are part of our evolution).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:31 PM
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This is a ludicrous response, and you know it. Where did I say "all"? Where? Do you believe that women, simply by virtue of being women, are physically incapable of ever making a mistake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:33 PM
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"I just think we should abolish the concept of femininity and masculinity." I think humans should just sprout wings and fly rather than drive, to save the environment! Wanting something impossible is a waste of time....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:28 PM
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This is nonsense. I spend a fair bit of time around young men (18-22). They are scarcely different from the young men of 10-20 years ago. A little less drinking, sure, and somewhat more into fitness, but overall very similar. Women are the ones who changed. The ‘ick’ did not exist ten years ago. ‘666’ did not exist 20 years ago. This is simply not a male problem, however you try to twist it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:28 AM
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As a kid I was bullied for being small. As an adult? No. Who gets bullied as an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:22 AM
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I’ve never seen research to that effect…..but either way a bit of bullying isnt stopping you from doing anything. It’s just a cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:06 AM
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It happens. You’re still in better shape than 90% of other men. You don’t have to go full Squidward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:02 AM
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What can’t you do? Where and how is society stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:01 AM
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The gentle reinstitution of social pressure to marry and multiply. This pressure was attacked by feminists as “keeping women down”, when it reality it was keeping all of society afloat. Small cultural tweaks would have pretty big impacts, I suspect. Combine that with extensive fat shaming (both to increase people’s attractiveness and fertility) and the problems would probably solve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:08 AM
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Make an argument, not insinuation. I simply do not know what you’re talking about. And yes, I do think it comes down to indecision, or just poor decision-making in general. I’ve literally seen it with my own eyes, dozens of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:59 AM
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….because we understand basic maths? At present course South Korea will halve its population before I die. That is self-genocide on an unprecedented scale. Would you actually contend than men have suddenly, in the past 20 years, become vastly less attractive than men of every other generation that has ever lived? Maybe that is your contention, but it seems pretty radical, if so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:56 AM
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So, you think the developed world should cease to exist? Because that is the ONLY possible conclusion of your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:38 AM
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“ The thing a lot of people will say is that there's supposed to be some kind of premeditated discussion of what a relationship is supposed to be before you fall into that trap.” This is pretty new and VERY culturally specific (in the West it’s pretty much just Americans who date like this). In Europe if you’re obviously dating….then you’re dating. No need for a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:31 AM
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In my experience, most expectations about having sex and forming a relationship are pretty reasonable. Sadly, there are a lot of self-absorbed people out there who have no problem using the people around them for their own gain. Cut those people out of the market, and everything would get a lot better, pretty quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:29 AM
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In the developed world the present rate of singledom and childlessness is literally unprecedented. This is a stone cold fact. You are not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:12 AM
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Egalitarian has nothing to do with gender roles, though. You’re conflating things. Also, humans tried matriarchy a few times. The societies all failed pretty miserably. For one reason or another it just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:11 AM
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Ok, and even in very rigidly gendered households (which I have NEVER seen in the developed world) people eventually leave their parents’ house and can go about doing whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:58 AM
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I do think I know, yes. The internet has utterly broken women’s brains (and men’s, albeit to a lesser extent). Women’s sexual selection has always been contextual, rather than concrete. When they lose the ability to accurately assess the context (due to online intrasexual competition, posturing, and endless online male attention), a good number fail to make any decisions and wind up unmarried and not reproducing. This has never happened before in the history of our species (or any species, for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:56 AM
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Chimps, sorry. Autocorrect got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:54 AM
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It’s really not debatable. We know the replacement rate (2.1 children per woman). We know that every developed society on Earth is below that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:53 AM
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A person with more options is less likely to commit (or to even want to). That’s just obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:51 AM
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The number one thing a person can do to be more attractive is get in shape, which almost anyone can (and should!) do. That part, a major part, is absolutely merit-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:41 AM
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For the millionth time…. An individual making decisions is great, whatever those decisions tend to be. An entire culture shift, unprecedented in human history, in which women en masse decide that the survival of their culture isn’t worth having to settle down with men who are demonstrably on their level (or even a little above) is just disastrous. What we’re experiencing is a sort of mass hysteria, not individuals making rational choices that will make them happy. Thankfully this is likely just …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:38 AM
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This seems borderline impossible. Even chimps have gender roles. You can GUARANTEE that early homo, and other hominin, did as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:35 AM
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Nope. The only factor is women opting out of being mothers. Literally the only problem. Same with the ‘dating crisis’. Eventually women will wake up and return to sanity, but this generation is probably lost and will not be able to self-correct in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:32 AM
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No one has ever threatened trans people’s ability to “exist in public”. This is just not a thing. A segment of radical trans activists pushed to totally overhaul society during the chaos of COVID and all the rest of it. They failed, because most people cannot live in that sort of unreality. So, trans people now mostly live in the 2018/2019 world; going about their business as normal and getting on with it. This is, realistically, as good as anyone can realistically hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:31 AM
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We already do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:25 AM
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Has such a society ever existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:23 AM
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Would you move to Wakanda? You’re describing a fantasy world. It doesn’t matter, because clearly binary expressions of gender are hard-coded into us. The exact expressions might vary, but the polarity has always, and will always, be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:21 AM
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CONSCRIPTION, not "the draft"...."the draft" is American slang, not an actual term for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:04 PM
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Why do women here always make the exact same logical mistake? Taking things down to single individual completely misses the point. Imagine you’re running a small city and one person gets drunk, passes out, and commits in the street. It’s awkward, but not a massive problem, and can be cleaned up easily. Now imagine fully 5-10% of the people in your city do that. Now you have absolute carnage. You need to look at things from a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:32 AM
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OP poisoning the well from the off by saying “preferences” rather than “standards”. Anyway, you can have any standards you want, so long as you can actually fill them. The reality is that a good chunk of women have standards they cannot reasonably fill, and this skews the entire dating market in unhealthy ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:29 AM
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Also, don’t forget that when woman lost off their complaints they NEVER talk about any of the things their man does that they don’t (and you know such things exist, whatever they are). Honestly, I think it’s mostly just political posturing. I have never witnessed one of these super unbalanced relationships in real life, and I have never heard a moderate or conservative woman complain….it is exclusively VERY left wing women bringing this up. It’s one giant LARP. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:22 AM
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Existing hunter gatherer societies are vastly more patriarchal than any developed society. The entire post is based on a series of inaccuracies and fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:30 AM
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You can’t just flip reality and call it an argument. I have NEVER known a long term single guy with standards that are too high (i.e. constantly rejecting women who are coming on to him and roughly of his level). I have literally never seen this before in my life. I know a dozen women RIGHT NOW that are in this exact scenario. They are asked out regularly and reject everyone because they aren’t good enough. Occasionally take a spin on the carousel with a Chad, and then go back to their orbiters …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:05 PM
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That’s fair. I would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:26 PM
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It’s always that way, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:46 PM
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Ah, the classic: “This isn’t real!” followed by, “Oh, c’mon, EVERYONE knows this!” Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:45 PM
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TRP literally makes no claims around women and work. It is totally irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:44 PM
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Correct (although this effect is somewhat lessened outside of America). Your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:37 PM
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This holds true ESPECIALLY if you account for age, not in spite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:22 PM
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Take a big step back. Read the study….CAREFULLY….and think again. A) This is a snapshot in time, not a lifelong trend B) Look at who is included with “female breadwinners”. Basically people at the bottom of the social hierarchy, likely dealing with chronic unemployment and frequent male incarceration. The tripling of this number says more about the state of marriage and the collapse of the working class more than anything else C) “Egalitarian” is loosely bounded, such that realistically the vast…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:15 AM
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Men just want a woman who is nice to them. That’s not “submission”, it’s just common decency. If that woman happens to be from a different culture, why does that matter? Personally, I’ve dated women from all over the world….every inhabited continent on Earth (except Australia), and women (like men) and FAR more alike than different, all across the world. The West African girl, the South Asian, the Western European, the South American….they all had their personal quirks, but they were just that: …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:06 AM
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The percent if women who earn more than their men, especially over a lifetime (not just a random snapshot) is still very small, and if it is growing it is growing at a glacial pace. It will never be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:55 AM
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Young men are not really becoming more conservative though. This is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:45 AM
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“Let me explain”, followed by a wall of AI slop… Can’t you think for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:40 AM
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It’s worth remembering that American abortion laws were much more radical than anything in Europe, and that many European abortion laws are still a relatively new thing. There’s not really been enough time or ‘need’ for a backlash across much of Europe. Also worth remembering that the vast majority of American women still have easy access to abortions, and the US is more progressive than France in some surprising ways. My lesbian French friends found it exceedingly difficult to get IVF in France…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:41 AM
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By raw numbers conservatives are more married, more reproductive, and happier. They are simply not struggling to anything like the degree left wing men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 AM
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Height was always an advantage, but only became a fetish in the past decade or so. I wasn’t openly rejected for my height until after Covid. It just didn’t matter much before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:33 AM
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I’m sorry, but you cannot have “worse economic conditions” as normal compared to the worst financial collapse in living memory. I was there. It was like nothing you have ever seen (literally).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:31 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. But societies everywhere are only becoming more urbanised. Look at Japan and South Korea that are basically just becoming two really big cities, rather than entire countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:30 AM
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I have living relatives in their 90s. The women all worked, and were expected to work. This idea that women are all of a sudden liberated, suddenly, in the past 20-30 years is pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:28 AM
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I know a lot of older people. I don’t know any that feel “trapped” in their marriage. Every single one saw it as the single greatest blessing in their lives. This idea that people in the past were all miserable is just weird feminist revisionism. On a simple psychological basis you would expect (and you in fact find) that people were generally happier in the past, if only because they suffered less choice paralysis in every aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:26 AM
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You’re partially right, women are the drivers of this, but not because men are suddenly worse. Men are literally better now than they’ve ever been: in better shape; more egalitarian; more pro-social and considerate. The only truly retrograde movement for men has been in earnings (which is not their fault, but a result of globalisation). The current dating market is akin to the globalisation (really just the expansion) of female intrasexual competition which has driven up the value of top men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:25 AM
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The ideology comes second. It’s a symptom. Dating is screwed because of the effects of the internet on culture, full stop. In short, social media broke people’s brains, especially young women (as shown in study after study showing women taking a sharp left-wing turn all across the developed world, all right around the time smart phones and social media hit maturity).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:21 AM
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I respect that there are massive regional variations. In the UK we kept schools open, except for a very brief period at the beginning. It felt like obviously the right decision, even though we faced tougher other restrictions compared to the Americans (BoJo cancelling Christmas at the last minute was a catastrophe, but there we are).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:25 PM
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Because feminism is a hate movement, not a movement for fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:02 AM
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The rain in Spain stays mostly on the plains.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:57 AM
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The effect of Covid seems DRAMATICALLY overstated. Even in the absolute worst-affected countries lockdowns never lasted more than a few months. People act like teenagers had their entire lives taken from them. In reality, at least in the U.K., it was one bad winter. That’s it (and winter is shit anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:54 AM
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“Hypersexualising” does not exist. It is not a thing. It is a slur thrown at totally normal (usually male) sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:26 PM
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Neither are “seductive”, they’re creepy (by Anglo-American standards). They can sometimes get away with it because they’re given a pass for being from a different culture, but their idea of courtship is often way beyond the boundaries of decorum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:48 AM
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Ah, I never knew this! That explains a lot. His story never really added up, anyway. How does a failed actor wind up a psychologist? I guess now I know: by going to a fake university.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:41 AM
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He is occasionally right about things (usually in a fairly anodyne way), but is largely a joke in my eyes. He puts on this pseudo professional air that only sometimes masks his enormous ego and self-regard. It’s cringeworthy. I feel bad for anyone that him (or any “guru” for that matter) any money. What a total waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:39 AM
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“Unresolved trauma” is voodoo nonsense. Humans do not “resolve” their “trauma”, and certainly not through therapy (a very recent trend…there weren’t ancient Romans lining up for therapy, but they seemed to do just fine).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:24 AM
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Trying to talk to someone you’re interested in while you’re both in a social setting is not “gross” or “disrespectful”. Honestly, it sounds like the real crime these guys committed was not being hot enough. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:19 AM
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“The unstoppable cutscene”! I almost died….! Definitely keeping that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:24 PM
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I have no idea what discipline those authors are even trying to write in, but the article is of abysmal quality. The methodology is awful, picking a bunch of random shipwrecks for a bloody Almanac, and they do basically none of the real work one would expect of a study addressing the issue. The whole article could have been done and dusted inside of a week. Maybe even less! It’s a total joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:28 PM
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Men absolutely sell their bodies…just not for sex. Mining, oil work, war, the trades in general….lots of men cutting their lives short to make a buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:13 PM
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All very easy for you to say, having never had to pursue anyone. If a woman seems even vaguely interested a man usually has to pursue for lack of better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:09 PM
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A lot of this depends on class and location. For professionals in a major city 30s are generally better for men (in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:25 PM
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Getting a woman, singular, to lower her standards is probably not great, and unlikely to lead to a solid relationship. True. If women in general returned to standards as they were just 20 years ago EVERYONE would be a lot happier (women included).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:20 PM
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I guess, but statistically speaking very few young people live in such small towns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:12 PM
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This is totally immaterial. I’ve dated in my circle, outside of if, online, offline….I cannot think of any continuities between any method. Each relationship or date was totally unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:12 PM
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How can you come here and just straight up lie like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:23 PM
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Men are more visual, but the bar is also pretty low, hence less shallow over all. Plus, men want what they want because they want it. A hot girl is hot regardless of context. Women want what they want purely in comparison to others…meaning today’s good pick could be tomorrow”s trash because the context and competition changed. This is also more shallow than anything men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:22 PM
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"Women who become stay at home moms weren’t that ambitious to begin with." Broadly speaking, yeah, I'd agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:28 PM
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Having diverse outlets is always good, but people working very part-time jobs are hardly fighting to climb the corporate ladder….
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:31 AM
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The foundational view that women have to “give up” their “professional ambitions” is already pure BS. I’ve never once known a SAHM who felt she was “giving up” anything. Not having to go to a crappy job is a LUXURY, not a sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:00 AM
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So rejoining the EU would be regressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:52 AM
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The observation, not ideology, that men and women tend to have distinct roles is utterly universal across time and space. There is no society that has ever existed that did not have clearly defined social roles for people based on age and sex (even if those roles are more or less flexible based on circumstance). I’m sure believe EVERYTHING is political, but this is only true if you warp the meaning of the word beyond all meaning and value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:44 AM
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“ Gender - in particular gender roles and what is or constricts gender - is inherently political.” Nonsense. It is SOCIAL, not political. A small society with no formal politics (either in form or ideology) would still have gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:35 AM
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You can be anti-feminist and also left wing. It is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:33 AM
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Nonsense. If someone opposed Brexit and wishes to rejoin the EU are they progressive? Wouldn’t they want to go backwards to how things used to be, which by your framing would be “regressive”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:30 AM
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Whenever you see the word “political” like this your know you’re going to get an America-brained screed….. The US would be so much better if you guys work and realised that Americans are vastly more similar to each other than they are different, and what you perceive to be massive political differences actually look pretty minor from the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:24 AM
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I’ve been more successful with women than I’ve had any right to, and I have never once pulled a woman in a bar (and in my whole life have only been to one club, for a total of about 20 minutes). If you’re a low-IQ normie then bars and the like might be a good option. They don’t work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:32 AM
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Let me go stand outside and get taller. That should do the trick!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:27 PM
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There really aren’t a billion reasons though. Economics plays ZERO role in birthrates. Zero. The highest birthrates are clustered around the lowest incomes (both within a country, and internationally). The one and only constant is women refusing to settle down and have a family. EDIT: worth noting that the US has better birthrates than anywhere in Europe , where there are more pro-family policies. Policy is irrelevant. All that matters is culture, and modern culture is utterly borked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:38 PM
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That’s a huge IF (and one I have NEVER seen in real life), whereas I’ve seen countless women work part-time or super relaxed jobs while their husbands work in high-stress, long-hours jobs to keep the family afloat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:20 PM
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Birth rates have fallen through the floor. Within a century, at present pace, the entire developed world will cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:19 PM
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If women are "doing more in the relationship" they are usually either: A) Not fairly evaluating the man's input (this is the most common thing I see...esp. discounting a man's earnings) or B) Dating a man way out of their league that knows they don't have to pull their own weight Basically, I think women are totally full of it on this. Men have NEVER been more involved and egalitarian, and suddenly now it's not enough? I call BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:27 PM
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"given their actual dating pool" AKA Alpha widows. Women would rather watch the developed world collapse than marry an average guy. This is the biggest self-own in the history of Western civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:45 AM
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“ I feel like the biggest impact on certain dudes not getting dates is women determining their life is genuinely better without a romantic partner.” I guarantee you that the number of women who truly feel this way is VANISHINGLY small. Close to zero. You simply cannot tell me that those women who claim they just don’t want a relationship would therefore turn down Jason Momoa or whatever elite man that suits their taste. It’s absurd to even consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:17 AM
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Yep. Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:08 AM
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Offline a woman can’t tell the difference between 5’11” and 6’….but they can absolutely tell if you’re 5’7”, either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:52 PM
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How is seeing reality up close “skewing” anyone’s perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:50 PM
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Anytime someone mentions Rodger unironically I know they're completely insane. When are people going to let go of this one fringe lunatic from TWENTY years ago!?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:18 PM
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Guarantee you that a larger percentage of women date serial killers than the percentage of men who ARE serial killers... Let that sink in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:12 PM
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More members of my family have spent time in prison than I really care to count. When they've been out they've dated, and had babies with, ALL SORTS of women, including supremely 'normal' women in good, stable jobs. This idea that it's only trash dating trash is just wrong, especially if you try to compare relative levels. My cousin is doing time right now and his ex was not exactly high class, but she wasn't a criminal....just a bit thick. She could have dated a normal, working-class guy, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:29 PM
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History does not make predictive models. Ever. That is simply not what we do. We try to explain phenomena based on fragmentary evidence. That’s really it. The process is explanatory, not predictive (i.e. I can roughly tell you why a given state lost this or that war, perhaps with some relative weighting of causes, but I cannot predict who will win or lose some other conflict). Also, historians tend not to describe themselves as -ists. That is a social science thing, where people are obsessed wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:24 AM
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You do realise that basically no one had credit cards in the 1970s anyway, right? It’s like saying “Women are denied the freedom to travel to Mars because of SEXISM!”. I mean, maybe, but no one is going to Mars anyway, so who cares? Similarly banking restrictions on women have been vastly overstated. We have records across the Western world of women having their own bank accounts (hell, their own banks!) and owning vast wealth, including businesses and property, fully in their own right going ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:47 AM
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A slim woman will be desired by far more men than she could ever possibly entertain. This is irrespective of any other trait she may, or may not, have. Every woman can be, and should be, slim. It is relatively easy to maintain (although possibly difficult to achieve once someone has become fat…losing weight isn’t easy). The closest equivalent would be a tall man, although it is not 1:1. Height is genetically predetermined, and no amount of effort will make a short man taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:42 AM
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Women of East Asian descent are the most highly prized in online dating (and, undoubtedly, IRL dating as well). You are basically the universal ideal. How can you compare that to black women, who are consistently rated the least attractive? It is literally the opposite experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 AM
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OP has never been to the developing world….this all a series of assumptions based purely on American chauvinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:13 AM
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The timeline is totally irrelevant. She could hold off on sex for a bit and still be in exactly the same position. All that matters is relative mate value. As long as she keeps going for men out of her league this will keep happening, it’s that simple. If she wants a relationship she has to choose a guy for whom she is close to his best possible option….which means she’s going to have to stop exclusively dating Chad, because Chad is never going to commit to her. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:44 AM
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The vast majority of women who have ever lived had babies, meanwhile something like only 40% of men did not. This is written into our DNA. We know this for a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:36 PM
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“Use bombs wisely!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:31 PM
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Virtually no one needs to carry a weapon around….particularly not a gun. If you find yourself in a position to need something like that you have made a very long series of terrible decisions to get you there. Better to avoid those bad decisions instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:30 PM
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A mistake without consequences is not a mistake….
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:07 PM
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Yep. Exactly. Especially when you consider the fact that “civilisation” is really only a few thousand years old….the first 270,000 years of our species was lived very differently!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:05 PM
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This is a bizarre portrayal of the past. Most people that have ever lived have been slaves of one kind or another. The Romans did not “sit around discussing philosophy”…..that was for the cultural rich, 0.0001%. Everyone else was in the fields or the mines or living in squalid slums. Also, the sheer existence of love strongly indicates that it is an old, evolved emotion, not some modern invention. WTF is OP even on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:53 PM
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"Lovebombing" only works if the man is already way out of your league. If women made sensible choices, and accurately rated themselves, their dating problems would fall to about as near zero as anyone could hope for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:49 AM
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Without consequences no one can learn anything. Accountability is a two-part process: consequence, and acknowledgment of one's own role in whatever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:36 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:07 PM
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Yeah, pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:06 PM
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"Miniature banker with 8 inch cock" Gotta admit, this made me laugh. Who knew Leprechaun gooning was a thing....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:43 AM
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That poster is a troll. Don’t bother engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:02 PM
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I think the OP is on to something novel here. Even if only a minority of women are promiscuous, their impact radiates out (both in person and via the internet).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:04 PM
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I’m sorry, but this is ridiculous. You cannot seriously believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:58 PM
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Norway is regularly aggressed by Russia, and they share a border. They cannot be as blase about the risk of invasion as you seem to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:48 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:36 PM
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So, you're going to dodge the question. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 AM
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That’s just not true. I went through phases in life where I lived in areas with absolutely no suitable partners (or even friends). Sometimes people have odd circumstances, move to a new town and don’t know anyone, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:42 AM
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Think it through. Real hard. Then engage, if you like. Should the Nazis have been allowed to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:39 AM
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I’ve literally never met a woman above maybe the bottom 10% that did not have constant male interest, including from men demonstrably at or above their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:37 AM
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This is nonsense, first off. Secondly, we (as a species) tried matriarchy. Several times. It failed. Every time. Not a single matriarchy in the history of our species managed to develop beyond the Stone Age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:36 AM
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Gotta admit, her response is pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:33 AM
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Median age of a Ukrainian soldier is 43. The fact is that combat today is just not very physical. You almost never see the enemy, only specialised assault troops do. If you fire your weapon at all it is firing it at a drone or firing it in the vague direction of the enemy. All of that a woman could easily do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:32 AM
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So, the Nazis should have been allowed to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:22 AM
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First off it is called “conscription” not “draft” (this is an Americanism…no one else calls it this). Secondly, I guarantee you that every single person who claims they are against conscription would very suddenly be in favour of it if their country was invaded. It is pure posturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:21 AM
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You’re 21. This is a youth thing more than anything. You and your date are still at the early stages of learning what it means to be an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:43 AM
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“ Build a rapport, get to know her a little, don't call it a "friendship" and then ask her out.” I have never once seen this work in my entire life. By “building a rapport” without immediately escalating to a date all you do is put yourself in the friendzone. Once in, you will never get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:24 PM
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Yep. This. Also, assertiveness has nothing to do with if…the guys just aren’t very attractive. Being more assertive wouldn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:14 PM
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Bollocks. The vast majority of nice guys are genuinely nice. Only a small minority have ulterior motives or snap and do/say something stupid, and that the ruins the reputation for the rest. The whole ‘nice guy’ dialogue is really just women bending into pretzels to justify dating the worst of the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:10 PM
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Peace is not utility….it’s peace. It’s not about solving problems, it’s about whether or not a woman adds more problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:32 AM
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Because a man who settles is likely happier than a woman who does, and he is FAR less likely to leave. It’s just a more stable arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:31 AM
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Probably not a popular response, but I don’t see abortion as exclusively a gender issue, I see it as bodily autonomy. If women cannot have first or second term abortions then the logic of that carries through to all sorts of bizarre legal outcomes, regardless of gender (if you take things to their logical conclusion).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:18 AM
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My female colleague REGULARLY makes broad, anti-male statements, apropos of absolutely nothing. This is NOT just an online phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:08 AM
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Soft quotas in hiring, university admissions, promotion and the plethora of programmes and benefits that exclude men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:06 AM
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A society that was just 20% male would get dominated by a more balanced society. Your 20% would be invaded, slaughtered, and their women carried off in short order.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:36 AM
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Privilege. They refuse to accept their advantages because things are merely “easy”, not “absolutely perfect”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:21 AM
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“ women behaving exactly as men demand has never made men treat us better or "support our issues"” This is vaguely true if your knowledge is restricted to the Anglosphere…. Most women got the right to vote from either communists (women didn’t have to campaign for it, it came with the ideology) or it was forced o them by the victorious Allies in or around 1945.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:15 PM
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This is somewhat disingenuous (as usual), since Radcliffe College was the sister college (part of the same university) as Harvard, and it admitted only women. They amalgamated late, but it’s more of a technicality that women couldn’t go to “Harvard”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:13 PM
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“ Men want perfect women too, unrealistic body standards and demands. ” 95% of men’s standards are “don’t be fat”. Not being fat is not an “unrealistic body standard”. “ Do you know how many men I've seen in the hospital playing video games or being asleep while their wife is giving birth?” Labour can go on for hours….potentially MANY hours. What’s the man supposed to do? Blankly stare at the wife the whole time? How is that helping anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:25 AM
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Same as “Oh, no, honey, I would NEVER watch porn!” If people create ludicrous barriers they create a system in which dishonesty is all but guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:20 AM
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Not really a gendered one, but definitely an age-based one (i.e. being treated like a child, despite being an adult).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:17 PM
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Emasculation is just belittling with a gendered twist. I’m sure OP has been belittled at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:16 PM
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I would agree....one is too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:44 PM
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Read it more closely. No hard numbers are given. So, if on white mother died in 2021 and two in 2022....that's a 100% increase (I know the figures are not that low, but you get the idea). We also get no sense of how much the YoY figure normally changes. What is the normal range? The citations are vague and do not do anywhere if you try to follow them. This is shoddy activism, not research. Look, I am fully in favour of abortion, but you need proper sources to make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:28 PM
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This is just factually incorrect. Groping is absolutely contained in the above 'statistic'....as is (sometimes) simple cat-calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:22 PM
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Does this correct for pre-natal health and income? The places where things are getting worse also seem to have a fatter, poorer population than California. (Not saying the loss of RvW had zero impact, but I suspect it’s overall impact is way lower than people want to admit)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:02 PM
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This is only true if you define assault VERY broadly. When walking down the street once at university some women passed by me and one grabbed my ass. I would never put myself in the same category as rape victims, it would be utterly shameful to even suggest it….and yet that’s exactly what is happening in your “every 3rd or 4th woman” statistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:56 PM
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Fundamentally this comes down to incentives. Women have absolutely no incentive to accept that their risk is way lower than it is usually portrayed, or that they are treated pretty equally in society, all things considered. Even if they know this is true intellectually the incentive is to act like you don’t to try to gain yet more concessions. You can always predict an outcome by Simon following the incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:53 PM
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"you often get couples where the woman makes $1,500 per month, and the man makes $1,000 per month" Do you get that more, or less, often than the inverse? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:41 AM
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It depends on what you mean by “same range”. That’s the slippery part. My sister is a teacher and her husband is in IT. They’re both “educated professionals”, but he makes about 4x what she does. I bet you’d put them in the “same range”….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:59 AM
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I find that hard to believe, given how poor the U.K. is, and how strongly bounded salaries are (almost no one makes much more than the national average….we’re very “equal” in that sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:57 AM
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“ were often very transactional (wanting to split bills, rent, etc).” I love how you frame paying your own way like a normal adult as “very transactional”….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:55 AM
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See, this is what I mean….people are being super disingenuous. When they met she was a young research associate, and he was vice president. He literally interviewed her for her job. Yes, they were both working at the same hedge fund, but c’mon…they were not peers by any stretch of the imagination. In that note, saying she married him when he was “broke” is also total nonsense. Again, he was VP at a hedge fund. No one in their right mind is describing such a person as “broke”!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:53 AM
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This is mostly only true if you really stretch definitions. So, even if “rich guys marry rich women”, I bet you the man still makes more FAR more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:47 AM
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Don’t get focused on the numbers. I just looked it up, but the median house price to income ratio for that part of California is under 7:1. That’s super affordable in this day and age. In my city the figure is around 11:1….50% more expensive, in practical terms. (Also, if you want to be comprehensible you shouldn’t use so many acronyms. I doubt anyone not from Southern California has ANY idea wtf the “IE” is….don’t be so insular)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:42 AM
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“ 16 year old girls also don’t care how much money their boyfriend makes” No, but they absolutely care about how much money his parents make….same thing, via proxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:33 AM
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“ most marriages happen between people in the same tax bracket.” In the U.K. we only have two real tax brackets, so obviously almost everyone marries someone in their bracket. Realistically, the framing, as ever, is disingenuous. It’s like saying a doctor marrying a nurse is basically marrying an equal since they’re both in the medical field. The fact is that men out-earn their wives FAR more often than the inverse. Saying they’re “in the same tax bracket” (whether this is actually true or not) …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:31 AM
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I doubt it’s real. The tone feels pretty masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:29 AM
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There is no such thing as the 'real you'.....we all contain multitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:57 PM
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This has absolutely nothing to do with 'capitalism'.....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:57 PM
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Yep. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:18 AM
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OP, do you believe that Danny DeVito and Jason Momoa are equally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:15 AM
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I would argue that beliefs and ideas have only changed a bit, and most of the changes have been superficial/cosmetic. The exact religion may change, but religion (in various forms) is still here. Same thing with political power, wealth, and reproductive success. The exact insider/outsider boundary shifts a bit this way or that (race, religion, immigration status), but the broad contours would be understandable to pretty much any Homonin. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:57 AM
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…….you believe that Erectus, or Habilis, or Australopithecus were particularly supportive of men expressing their emotional vulnerability? Really? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:17 AM
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The longest jail sentence for a simple suffragette was a couple months, and that was highly unusual. AFAIK it had ZERO impact on her social standing or survivability. You are picking out fringe scenarios and acting like they were the norm. Typical hysterics (which further ignore that the vast majority of women on Earth won voting rights without a suffragette movement….).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:14 AM
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Basically, yes. It is an evolved trait that predates our species. About as deep as deep can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:10 AM
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Again, merely calling them “prevailing ideas” is a gross distortion of reality. It’s not like there are loads of competing systems and we can just casually pick one. You’re talking about the governing social bonds that have facilitated our evolution and survival for millions of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:09 AM
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I’m sorry, but how is pointing out objective reality “bootlicking” (particularly coming from someone with no boots to lick….I don’t live in the US). “ we now have concentration camps in the US.” You do realise that detention centres have existed for decades, right? What do you propose? If someone is found to be in a country illegally you cannot just let them go and hope they show up for court one day. That is absurd. “ While I'll say people who have been born here have been profiled,” Of course.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:08 AM
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Again, calling it a “norm” VASTLY underestimates how essential it is. It’d be like calling sleep merely a “norm”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:02 AM
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Societies outside of America exist, you know….
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:59 AM
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This “destructive line of thinking” is completely and utterly universal…..acting like someone can just “end it” is beyond delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:57 AM
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Not caring about how males feel literally predates the invention of language. Putting this in American political terms is just absurd, and vastly underestimated how deep and real and evolutionarily successful social realities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:55 AM
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So, “patriarchy” either describes base reality (which is impossible to fight against), or it describes a voodoo conspiracy to maintain male power (which is absurd). Either way, it basically describes nothing, and it therefore pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:52 AM
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If you are in the woods and need to start a fire crying about it is literally not helpful. The only thing that is helpful is gathering wood and making the fire. Anything outside of that is a waste in that particular moment. That is not “patriarchy” and no one “teaches” men that, it is just basic reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:51 AM
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There is no human society that has ever, or will ever, exist in which male weakness and crying is even tolerated, let alone praised or supported. You can call it whatever you like, but when it has been reality since before our species even existed it is probably best to get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:48 AM
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This is blank slate nonsense. The female aversion to weakness goes back LONG before our species even existed. It is not just a “social construct”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:43 AM
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“ Ice is prejudiced against Hispanics.” The VAST majority of illegal aliens living in the United States are from Central and South America…..at least 80%. If ICE focused on black Americans it would be downright crazy because a vanishingly small number are native Africans in the US illegally. When you have a real problem that needs addressing you have to be practical about it, not “fair”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:41 AM
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The Sufragettes suffered precious few consequences, though. They tended to be wealthy, middle-aged women who were basically untouchable. Your average man is NOT in that same position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:37 AM
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Gender has helped humans thrive for hundreds of thousands of years. It is not “stupid”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:00 AM
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“ The friend-zone is self inflicted, participation is voluntary.” People say this online without having thought through it. If you like someone in our friend group, but they don’t like you back….what should you do? Exist the group entirely? That’s just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:53 AM
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This narrative is silly. A woman knows that 99% of men she meets want to sleep with her. Believing that her guy friend doesn’t, or that it somehow diminishes the friendship, is pretty indefensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:45 AM
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Men value freedom over conformity. The upsides (creativity in problem-solving) massively outweigh the downsides (noxious political or social views can be aired).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:42 AM
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""Regarding opposite-sex sexual behavior, 94.2% of women and 92% of men aged 18–44 had ever had vaginal intercourse."" So one person having sex once is exactly the same as another person having had sex 5,000 times? Yeah, good job....great stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:36 PM
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Is English your first language? I feel like you don't know what "teasing" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:24 PM
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That’s just nonsense. With the right tone, delivery, and intention you can tease anyone in the world, at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:16 PM
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Oh, nonsense. Negging, done right, is just playful teasing. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:46 PM
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Nope. Acting disinterested isn’t really about what she will think. It is mostly a tactic to avoid the man coming off as TOO interested, which is basically the death knell for any early courtship. Multi-dating basically does the same thing. It stops the man from over-investing too early (something many men are prone to doing), thus preventing the man from shooting himself in the foot. That’s all. It’s not complicated, and it is absolutely superior to devolving oneitis and smothering your newfound…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:40 PM
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I don’t think “submissive” has ever really been a stereotype of Polish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:43 AM
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How is this not your fault? You can only match with someone if you, also, swipe on them. So, stop swiping right on men you know are incompatible and the problem will disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:11 AM
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It’s just the 80/20 rule in action. Women only go for the top men > those men have significant optionality > women who are shooting out of their league get cycled through for sex and then discarded. This process leaves most women riding the carousel chasing Chad, while leaving most men left out entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:58 AM
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Yeah, I nearly put Central, but it really depends. Poland is on the border. Poznan? Central! Warsaw? Sorry....but that's gotta be Eastern. Poles are Slavs....some of the westernmost Slavs, sure....but still Slavs, hence "mostly East".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:15 PM
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I would agree with that. At least you know for a fact she's interested from the off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:43 PM
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Ah, well Eastern Europe can be even more harsh than the US....lots of literal wining and dining (and flowers, god the flowers...).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:41 PM
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I'm not Gen Z, but I've dated offline and online and have noticed NO difference whatsoever. People are people. Once you're out on that first date it de facto becomes "offline" dating anyway, regardless of how you met.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:38 PM
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I assume you're an American? Dinner dates aren't much a of a thing in Europe (at least not early on). In the UK drinks is the go to. Almost always. Start there, and see where it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:35 PM
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I have literally never seen this happen in my life….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:38 AM
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“Fun” dates are very much an American phenomenon. In Europe most of the things Americans describe as “fun” would get you ridiculed. I couldn’t imagine asking a put-together Parisian girl to go to the “carnival”….how utterly absurd!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:35 AM
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What recession? We've not had a real recession in almost 20 years.....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:34 AM
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“You can’t have debate about difficulty level because we’re not even playing the same game” What is more difficult: checkers or astrophysics? Just because things are different doesn’t mean you cannot compare their difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:06 AM
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Did TRP improve you or not? It sounds like it did….therefore it worked. Period. Just because a gym routine won’t turn you into Mr Universe doesn’t mean it isn’t working.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:09 PM
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There is no possible way that entire societies suddenly decided to have sub-replacement birth rates. It is suicide. Clearly there is something bigger happening that mere “personal preference”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:44 AM
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Social pressure fixes everything. Bring bag spinster-shaming and fat-shaming, hard, and society would heal itself within a generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:21 AM
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Yes, they’re looking for a teammate that pays more than they do and supports their lifestyle. A real “partner”….
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:08 AM
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Women have always known how men think. It’s only recently that men began to learn about women (because they started broadcasting private conversations online), and it’s disgusting. Women use everyone around them, shamelessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:06 AM
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Ruszkik haza!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:34 AM
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If women were afraid that men will kill them then violent criminals would not have more sexual success than timid office workers. And yet…here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:27 AM
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Why do the weird BP people always make the exact same mistake? At an INDIVIDUAL level, sure. Anything is possible. Across a society of tens or hundreds of millions, however, individual quirks should have negligible impact. The crises in marriage and childbirth clearly go WAY beyond basic personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:36 AM
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If present systems were sufficient then every developed society on Earth wouldn’t be committing self-genocide. Something is obviously, fundamentally, broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:34 AM
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This is all very America-brained. The birth rate is even lower in countries that don’t have these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:59 PM
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By taking it to the individual level you completely (and intentionally….) miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:57 PM
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Yep. It’s why industrialised societies aren’t having babies anymore and will soon be overtaken by societies that are still, well, SOCIETIES. We had a chance to be contended Westerners. Instead, we will eventually have to choose between joining the umma or simple extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:18 PM
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Statistically speaking, however, they’re right. A good, honest person should have a near-100% chance of finding a relationship, sooner or later. Notice how in Hunter-gatherer society there is basically no such thing as a bachelor? Instead, we’ve created a society where the top potential mates have more opportunity than anyone could reasonably entertain in a life time, and a growing percentage of people have basically no hope of finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:15 PM
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In a broad sense if goodness is not rewarded socially then you will cease to have goodness in society. It is a s simple as that. As a society we SHOULD incentivise pro-social behaviour over anti-social behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:09 PM
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“ We shouldn’t hate the rich and pretty people, we should hate the system that created it right?” This is sort of a distinction without a difference, since the wealthy perpetuate the system that keeps them wealthy (always have done, and always will do).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:08 PM
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The number of women who are older, unmarried, and without kids is higher today than it has ever been in human history. That rather suggests that their standards were a bit too high, does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:06 PM
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The word “entitled” really needs to be stricken from the English language. It never does anything but poison the well…. Anyone that is hard done by for any reason is probably going to feel upset. That is not entitlement. Full stop. If it is then impoverished/enslaved/oppressed people are “entitled” for wanting to be free and safe. It doesn’t make any sense, and is totally unhelpful as a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:04 PM
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I love how the mods think this is acceptable content. It really does speak volumes. The OP is spitting pure misandry, which should not be tolerated anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:40 AM
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The only thin, ugly women I’ve seen are literal addicts. Don’t be fat. Don’t be a drug addict. This is the REAL low bar….
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:34 PM
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What good would it be him waking up at night? He cannot breastfeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:21 PM
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So he does everything except wake up in the middle of the night….and he’s suddenly a bad father? He cannot breastfeed. He is working, and she is not. Besides, this “feed every 3-4 hours” phase only lasts a few months, not forever. This is a ludicrous post that undermines pretty much all of modern feminism. They complain about everything and anything, however small and inconsequential, because it is just an emotional vent, not a rational analysis of reality. Ever notice how left wing women know l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:41 AM
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A society that refuses to self-perpetuate is not “the progression of science”….it is suicide. I quite like Swedes. I want them to stick around, which means they need to have more babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:37 AM
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Outside of the US, where people still marry VERY young, there is functionally very little difference between 25 and 35 for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:00 AM
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“ I've had so many women validate and desire me and want to commit it's insane.” You sound 15. This is troll/LARPing nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:55 AM
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Nah. The change is entirely due to technology. Social media has had a detrimental effect on everyone, but it has been particularly bad for women. In part, this is because women are naturally more social to begin with (and so more easily influenced by comparison with digital others). Women were also more severely affected because the grip of social media was only perceived belatedly. The challenges men faced (excessive gaming/porn/isolation) were evident and focused on from the onset of the moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:44 AM
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Not too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:36 PM
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Dude, don’t bother. You’re arguing with a disingenuous troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:28 AM
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In my experience women talk about their past, unasked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:27 AM
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You’re trying to conflate doing porn and watching porn. The two are not the same, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:49 AM
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“Unborn children” do not exist, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:15 AM
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Life is enormously complex and situations are endlessly varied. You cannot claim that everyone who has had an abortion is “evil”. You don’t know their circumstances, and don’t know what you would do in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:11 AM
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That's a really nice way of papering over your crippling insecurities (which is all the 'I don't want my bf watching porn' sentiment really is).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:46 AM
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Exactly. WOMEN want a storyline, men literally just skip over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:32 AM
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I’ll never understand this (although I know it is a common female concern). You do know that the women in porn are two-dimensional, right? They are functionally not real. You are not going to lose some competition to a video recording.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:31 AM
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“ if people didn’t want the step shit they wouldn’t make it” This is exactly what the OP is talking about. You simply do not understand how men watch porn. An old friend of mine worked in a hotel back int he day and they had records on how long customers watched movies they rented in their hotel room. Average porn view time was sub-5 minutes. Men just want a girl they think is hot, quickly find the scene they like, and get on with it. The “story” is skipped. 100% of the time. The reason “step” c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:29 AM
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Yeah, pretty much this. I’ve never understood the “entitled” claim. The most entitled people I know are the most successful, not the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:08 AM
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If you are interviewing for a job and get passed over for someone who is objectively less qualified…is it “entitled” to be upset? Because this is how a lot of rejected men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:07 AM
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….even if other people really are the blame? How is someone desirous of something more entitled than people who have the thing? In my experience the most successful people (richest, most popular, whatever), are the most entitled, not the other way around. As usual however, women frame everything as a mirror image of reality (same as with “nice guys”).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:03 AM
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Pointing to content creators misses the point, probably intentionally. Your average redpiller flies COMPLETELY below the radar, and can be from anywhere across the political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:28 PM
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The gender ratio is only skewed in America….people still struggle in Europe. The ratio is not the only (or possibly even the main) issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:59 AM
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It's honestly heart-breaking and infuriating. Endless protests over basic immigration enforcement, but NOTHING over the bombing of Iran (or Nigeria, or the attack on Venezuela). WTF!? Americans live in such a tiny bubble, it's scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:24 AM
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If you’re getting too many matches that is user error. Swipe right on smaller batches of men and this won’t be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:30 PM
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Women only massively outnumber men on dating apps in America. This is not a global problem. Why is this the case? Probably because Americans are super atomised (a result of car culture) and so more men are driven to the convenience of trying to date off their phone from the comfort of their home. Women therefore are flooded with attention, in real life and online, and are therefore able to get off apps easier, leading to a larger stagnation of men. Just a theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:29 PM
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America-brained nonsense. There is an outside world. You do know that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:25 PM
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Exactly. The only guys that treat women like that (pump and dump) have massive optionality....i.e. they're Chad. The top 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:20 PM
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"Being seen as an interchangeable fleshlight isn’t a compliment." Only Chad sees you that way. No normal dude who hasn't had a date in six months would approach a woman like that...ANY woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:20 PM
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That sort of thing works in small communities where people never leave (my family comes from a similar community, so I understand the dynamics). It doesn't work if anyone actually moves away though (I ran away from that setting....I hated the small town pettiness and myopia, but that's just me).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:19 AM
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Marriage has become more of a class-based luxury than a way to build a stable life with someone. There is no way to portray that as a ‘good’ thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:24 AM
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afaik this is only true for the US. Apps tend to be more evenly representative in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:23 AM
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“ and you forget all the female bot accounts in these stats that swipe on everyone.” You do realise that this means reality is EVEN WORSE for average men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:19 AM
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You moving to sexual assault is already moving the goal post, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:33 AM
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“ looking at male suicide rates. A big part of that is due to firearm use” I knew Yankee-brain would strike eventually…. Men kill themselves at far higher rates than women around the world (where we don’t have the same easy access to guns that Americans do). Guns might be part of the calculus, but in whole they’re a fairly small one, otherwise you’d see far more gender-equitable suicide rates in Japan or Northern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:32 AM
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This might be the single most bizarrely formatted post I have ever seen. I don’t trust a single thing in it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:34 AM
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Yeah, outside of unexpected drug reactions (due to almost all experimental drug volunteers being men), I think that “women receive worse healthcare” is yet another psyop based on a poor reading of data/research.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:22 AM
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Men also sign up for clinical trials at VASTLY higher rates than women. If women want to be better represented, particularly in drug studies, they need to volunteer to take experimental drugs. Female patterns of risk-taking alone suggest that this is an unsolvable problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:13 AM
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I’m not convinced that deeper historical causes are a great explanation for any reticence towards medicine today in 2026. A more generalised distrust of authority (especially non-black authority) built up over their own lives would more than suffice to create antipathy and reticence. If you stopped 100 black Americans on the street, particularly in the west or north, and asked them to tell you about Tuskegee (either the experiments OR the airmen, for that matter) I doubt more than 2-3% would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:08 AM
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"Untrue. Have you ever cared for a newborn? Have you ever dragged yourself out of bed to nurse a 2 day old infant after giving birth? They wake up every 2 hours 24/7 and it goes on for months. You have to feed them, change them and then pray they will let you have an hours sleep all while caring for the home." All of this is optional AND you are off work, getting paid for nothing, while doing this (unless you're American....America is a weird place).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:17 PM
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"Men have more career options than women" This is pure nonsense. What career options do men have that women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:13 PM
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Remember: trolling is allowed if it is pro-blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:12 PM
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Virtually no women mature into something better than they were at 25. A minority of men do, however. This is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:23 PM
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I disagree with that. You’ve never seen a well put-together older couple? More people should invest in their looks as they get older. Elegance is too rare these days. Most people over 50 seem to prefer frump….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:19 PM
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The OP literally attacks their own argument. No one argues that men accidentally become more attractive in their 30s…..they argue that a man who puts in the work can have more success in his 30s then he did in his 20s, an experience borne out by countless men. Typical strawman nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:17 PM
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Doesn’t matter. A decent man should, statistically speaking, be all but guaranteed a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:24 AM
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Look up how many people had credit cards in 1974…..basically no one. Complaining about that is like complaining that women could t drive cars in 1893. It’s a complete non-issue. “why do the highest smartphone usage countries not uniformly show the worst outcomes.” Um….but they do. The most developed societies all have sub-replacement birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:07 AM
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“Reason and accountability…..”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:53 AM
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“ Women gaining economic independence changed the terms of relationships. Thats what happens when you remove coercion (when your only alternative to marriage was destitution, that was not a free choice) from an arrangement and let both parties actually choose.” People keep parroting this, but it’s pretty much nonsense. The collapse in dating happens two FULL generations after women had full economic freedom. It is a total non-factor. This is a purely social change, heavily influenced by the inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:42 AM
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Game theory blows this nonsense up. If you don’t try to compete you only hurt yourself. You cannot control millions of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:40 AM
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….and yet you went on a date with all of them…..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:23 AM
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Guarantee you the “red flag man” has had more success with women than the average “boring” guy. Women love drama, and flock to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:53 AM
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Women refusing to date single, pleasant men who are objectively on their level is not the same as men refusing to date women who are objectively repulsive. This is absurd on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:51 AM
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Look around you. How often does a wife out-earn a husband? Of the dozens and dozens of couples I know well only ONE has a higher-earning female partner. This is pretty standard, and always will be because of……hypergamy. Women simply do not want men who are less capable than them. Men have no problem dating women who are less capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:38 AM
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This whole “nice guys are secretly evil” trope is pure nonsense. It’s just Simone Biles-level mental gymnastics to justify women dating actual, unambiguous assholes. The vast majority of men I’ve known who struggle are legitimately kind, pleasant, gentle individuals. There is nothing malicious about them (which is why women don’t like them….women prefer brutality). They also are not “boring” (the twin myth of the secretly evil “nice guy”). Some are funny, others lead pretty interesting lives (tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:35 AM
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"The idea is that financial stability doesn’t come from a man now that women can work." Theoretically, yes. In reality....no. Being single is always, inherently, WAY more expensive than being partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:14 PM
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Not even a myth. I know I did way better in my 30s than my 20s, and I'm far from the only man who experienced this. I don't know why redditors cannot accept that this is actually pretty common for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:10 PM
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“ Dating is really hard and I'm lonely because women have delusional standards and only want the top 20% chads and ride the cock carousel until they hit the wall and get alpha widowed and settle for an average guy to beta bucks him” I’m just one man, but I PERSONALLY know at least half a dozen women that followed this exact trajectory. How is commenting on real trends people see right before their eyes “moon man talk”!?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:18 AM
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Oh, bollocks. You’ve never seen “kill all men” or similar sentiments? I flat out do not believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:17 AM
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"For instance, male partnership has never guaranteed care or companionship in old age." Guaranteed, no....nothing is guaranteed....but being married obviously DRAMATICALLY increases your chances of old age companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:15 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:47 PM
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Do you believe that 100% of the women who say they're happy without a husband or children at 30 will feel that way at 60? Literally 100% of them? Of course not, hence my comment. The VAST majority of said women (and men, for that matter) are just posing. If they were honest, they CRAVE a family, all the way down to the cellular level. They want it so bad they can't even say so, because of how painful it would be when they admit they don't have these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:46 PM
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Exactly. Some might CLAIM they’re doing well, but if you know them even a little bit you’ll see how thin the facade is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:09 PM
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“ When surveyed women rank financial and career security much higher on the list than marriage and children, especially for women who are left leaning which is the majority of young women today.” Young women do, sure. How will they feel at 65 when they’re alone and childless? Probably less sanguine…. You cannot just turn off millions of years of evolution in a single generation. This is going to be catastrophic (as the widespread use of SSRIs by women over 40 already indicates).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:09 PM
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Male. Determined by the broader relationship. How it was otherwise going, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:07 PM
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Only if somehow you were incapable of driving 2 hours to the nearest abortion clinic.... The number of people this actually affects is VANISHINGLY small (thankfully).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:51 PM
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The USA is the wealthiest country on Earth, and possibly the wealthiest society the world has ever known. Americans THINK money is the problem, but it really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:50 PM
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Depends on the relationship. Some I would give a second chance to, others I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:08 PM
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The wall was always about commitment....not sex. You know this, you're just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:03 PM
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It also dramatically increases the odds of her leaving.... She'll finally see the man she actually wants and burn everything down to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:59 AM
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Guarantee you it is not a thing. I’ve known dozens of people in age gap relationships and I can’t recall even a single one in which the man was more than a year younger. This is just that classic liberal arts trick of “let’s take reality and flip it 180 degrees and call it an argument!”. Pure nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:57 AM
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“ You can go back and find wild posts from your early 20s full of humor, banter, and "that was awesome!" energy, and then you'll find the same dudes on LinkedIn 15 years later writing those horrendous AI style posts with some "lesson" about business they've learned with a million two sentence paragraphs, culminating in some "pearl of wisdom" at the end.” These sort of people were NEVER interesting, they were just young. Really interesting people never grow out of it (if anything, they grow into …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:52 AM
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So, if your partner wants a little time for themselves you just dump them!? Yeah, sounds totally reasonable….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:25 PM
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You misread the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:49 PM
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No, but in a population of roughly 50/50 men and women a man who is not a criminal or an abuser should be all but guaranteed a wife, just through sheer mathematics. Of course, we know that is not how things work….women prefer being “excited” over being “rational” and “safe”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:50 AM
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If a person is signalling that they want space….Gove them space. It’s that simple. It isn’t “mind games”, it is respecting their clear, if unstated, desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:41 AM
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Because nothing is less sexy than autistically explaining a situation. All of romance happens in the grey areas….the plausible deniability. This is trebly true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:39 AM
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Don’t another arguing. She hit you with the classic: “That’s not happening!” Switch up to “EVERYONE knows that’s happening!” Classic gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:09 PM
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This is wonderfully well worded. I couldn’t agree more (not Asian, but from a VERY reserved background).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:06 PM
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Same. Just reminding yourself to not be needy and to focus on generating ATTRACTION made a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:03 PM
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"Well most men and women are already “nice” - it’s such a low bar." If "most men....are nice" and women seem to date assholes at a wildly high rate of encounter........... 80/20 strikes again. As always.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:27 PM
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Patriarchy and capitalism literally have nothing to do with each other. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:12 AM
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….or it is a mod on an alt account.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:00 AM
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“ There are so many happy stable poly relationships” Yeah, no. I know loads of married couples. Some have been married for several decades. I have never in my life met a “poly couple” that lasted more than a year or two. Never once. It is inherently unstable and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 08:31 AM
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"JD Vance famously had a boring non-combat paperwork job and for some reason claims to be an ex marine and ppl just accept it" ....relevance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:30 PM
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Outside of fringe rural communities it is though. The literal definition is "one mile away from a supermarket", which is pretty much EVERYONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:30 PM
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Obesity is 100% self-inflicted. If the food you have access to is calorie-dense then, you know, just eat less of it! There is literally zero excuse to even be overweight, let alone obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:09 AM
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Yeah, people dramatically exaggerate the impact of working out. I’ve worked out for years and while you can tell with my shirt off I look like an otherwise normal dude with clothing on. Getting truly jacked is REALLY hard, and a lot relies on genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:07 AM
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Food deserts don’t really exist, outside of VERY rural areas with absolutely tiny populations. They’re basically a non-factor. In cities the definition of a “food desert” is so ridiculous that MOST people live in one (i.e. it’s meaningless). I’ve pretty much always lived in a food desert (over one mile away from a major grocery store). That’s no excuse for a bad diet…..ESPECIALLY in a world where grocery delivery is so easily available.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:03 AM
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I’m short as well and I’ve had people ask to me face if I lift to “compensate”….. The amount of open disrespect short people get is unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:58 AM
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First off, I don’t quite believe you. You can’t go from fat to fit in six months (unless your definition of either is quite skewed….). Secondly, the number one most physically attractive thing for men is height, followed by face…..two things you can’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:56 AM
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“ If you join the military and get a boring paperwork job out of the line of fire you will get college paid for” To my knowledge all of the Americans killed in the Iran war had the equivalent of “boring paperwork jobs”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:52 AM
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Honestly, yes! Women have a simple choice: date on their level, or die alone. Basically no in between. Since the vast majority of people are mediocre or worse, yes….most women should be thrilled with mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:47 PM
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I mean, it’s obvious, right? Women are the selectors. They can enter, and exit, relationships whenever they want, at basically no cost. OF COURSE women bounce back faster!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:20 PM
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They are opting out AFTER failure….not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:52 PM
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Young men will do whatever gets them laid. Abandoning gender norms doesn’t work, so they don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:01 PM
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You’re arguing with trolls, man. Don’t bother. The mods have allowed PPD to become utterly infested with radicalised feminists. It’s over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:46 AM
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Would you say that men in 2026 are more, or less, successful with women, on average, than men in 1996, 1986, or 1976?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:18 PM
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“Autistic guys” is a meaningless category. There is a massive range of autism, and people at either pole basically do not resemble each other at all. How do you lump together a vaguely awkward nerd with a mostly non-vocal person who will never hold down a proper job in their life due to their disability?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:33 AM
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“ commrodary” Camaraderie…..for future reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:31 AM
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I tend to dress up more than most (classic menswear), and prefer it when the woman I’m with dresses as well (either in literal dresses/very feminine, or in well-chosen professional or semi-professional attire). I grew up in the US, so didn’t learn how to dress until I was already fully grown. After spending a lot of time around more fashion-conscious Europeans I can’t really go back to the American style of forever dressing like a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:23 AM
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This entire post is SUPER American….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:19 AM
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This would be a total anomaly, and I am extremely dubious. What country? Which election?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:16 AM
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“….reason and accountability…..”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:15 AM
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Ascribing gendered behavioural traits is as old as our species. There is basically no possible chance that it is suddenly “outdated”, after building the most successful species Earth has ever known in just a quarter of a million years (the blink of an eye, evolutionarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:02 AM
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The U.K. Andrew Tate thing was pure, invented moral panic. Teenage boys being edgy was treated as a grand moral crusade by humourless, bored middle aged Guardian readers. It was never a real phenomenon…..same as teenaged Satanic cults weren’t a thing in the 90’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:59 AM
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I can guarantee you, whatever country you live in, that Redditors are not a major political faction. If you have an authoritarian government that is the fault of old people, not young chumps on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:55 AM
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“ ISIS was not a dating framework.” …I mean, it sort of was, though. Access to (usually enslaved) women was a key recruiting incentive for ISIS, and similar groups (Boko Haram, in particular).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:52 AM
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Also worth remembering that Augustus was a bit like a socially conservative politician today: he choose to make very public, performative acts of conservatism to bind Rome together and smooth over the transition from the republic to an empire (hiding a radical transformation in the guise of conservative tradition). The above business about promoting marriage is a CLASSIC tactic of the genre, still used by politicians today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:50 AM
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This is nonsense. I know a lot of Gen Z people (men and women) and they are NOT retrograde in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:46 AM
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I swear they will dine on Roger for the rest of eternity as if one freak incident is somehow a vast and notorious trend. Islamic terrorism, though? The multiple assassination attempts against Trump? Nope, those are just sick individuals, not part of any pattern whatsoever (despite being shockingly common, at times almost mundane).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:44 AM
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This post might make a little sense (it’s still quite convoluted) if the marriage and birth rates were the same they had been 20-30 years ago….but they’re not. The collapse in dating came FIRST, then red pill developed to try to stem the tide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:40 AM
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“Aro/Ace” doesn’t exist. “Aromantic” sounds like a serious mental health problem, and asexuality sounds like a medical problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:08 AM
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“ They say don't go HAM in the beginning cuz she will see you as being needy. - no - actually its because it makes us feel like we are being love bombed” Nonsense. No one had even heard of “love bombing” a decade ago, let alone 50 years ago, but women have ALWAYS disdained insecure, needy men. It’s the apparent weakness that turns women off, not women’s deep knowledge of modern “woo” therapy-speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:53 AM
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A man who is “taught self-love” as a child will never go out and accomplish anything. This is why men will always outcompete women on a level playing field. Our entirely psychology is built around external achievement. Women’s is mostly built on validation and social competition….neither of which actually “build” anything, except families (as a vector for intrasexual competition).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:00 AM
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I know several women who seem normal on the outside, but who have uncomfortable relationships with AI. Mostly just as “friends” (but that’s already super creepy). Like with other digital media women will be far worse affected than men, but this will be swept under the rug because WaW. Sex robots for men will never replace normal old masturbation for the same reason that motion controls will never replace traditional controllers. A system that requires less movement, is faster, and cheaper is sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:36 AM
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“ Do men who want these “robot gfs” or really think a robot gf will make women jealous think through this logistically?” Women today get jealous over porn, strangers, and women in advertisements….you honestly think they won’t get jealous over walking, talking sex robots?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:30 AM
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All I hear is “I’m tall and white….”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:51 AM
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All the mods are women, and they are pretty much all blue pill, or at least flagrant misandrists. This is a covert sub for shitting on men. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:12 PM
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Bored? Wants to add another member to his soft harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:15 AM
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….but some countries do refer to the “fatherland”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:36 AM
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“ Men who seem great during the courting phase” AKA men who are WILDLY out of the woman’s league….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:21 AM
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“More pick” is totally fine….that doesn’t mean the current level of “picky” is even remotely sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:18 AM
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Seriously, PPD has become 2X over the past year or so. It’s a misandrist hate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:16 AM
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This post misses a critical point: in your job scenario “best” probably includes long term stability. Women are rarely choosing with long term stability as a key metric. If women consistently chose well and were happy there would be no hand-wringing over any of this. The fact that they’re handed near-limitless power and STILL fuck it up is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:10 AM
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Women create BOTH scenarios. If they cast even a slightly wider net for men the “fuckboy” “problem” would vanish overnight. The vast majority of men WANT to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:04 AM
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This is not true at all, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:56 PM
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Radicalising men seems like a TERRIBLE idea. We know what happens when men are radicalised….women start wearing the niqab.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:51 PM
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Ideas are not genetic, so you can’t “breed out” antinatalism. That’s just silly. Anyway, I think the bad old days will return, because they always do. Might be in 5, 50, or 500 years….but they will always come back, and will always have to be fought. Most people will be de facto slaves, there will be no middle class to speak of, and women will have substantially less power and freedom than they do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:08 AM
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“ Clearly it works enough to not only exist but to keep getting new people to sign on to it. I don't believe in it one bit” You don’t see a massive contradiction here? You admit that it works at least sometimes yet you “don’t believe in it”. Might as well refuse to believe in gravity….
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:42 PM
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Couldn’t disagree more. People should find their person as soon as humanly possible. Why waste time? “Dating around” almost always means good matches get left behind and lost for no reason other than the pursuit of hedonism. Typical short term vs long term thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:43 AM
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If you had a 16 year old son who refused to accept any job that paid less than a million a year would you consider him principled….or delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:41 AM
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And yet, she gets to post here all the time. What does that tell you about this place?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:41 AM
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Even if we’re just talking social skills more broadly most people are not in the sort of environments that allow you to “practice” meeting new people with any sort of regularity. I’m fortunate that I do meet new people all the time, so had to develop good social skills, but if I worked a more traditional job this would not have been the case, and I may never have fully developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:41 AM
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“At the end of the day, more of your taxes are going to war than to welfare” This isn’t true for any developed country on Earth, outside of Ukraine. It is particularly untrue about every nation outside the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:33 AM
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I’ve never cheated, and I’ve only been cheated on once that I know of (although I have suspicions around another time). Cheating happens among trashy people with low impulse control. It’s pretty rare otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:27 AM
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It always comes back to 80/20…..always.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:25 AM
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So, if a woman’s standards include being 6’3” and she refuses to lower those standards to date a guy who is 6’1” she’s making a smart move? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:19 AM
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“ There is no solution if women are genuinely ok staying single over setting.” The aren’t, though. Some might say they are, but they’re lying. SSRI use by age and gender (spiking among single women over 40), basically tells the tale. If women fail to secure a man it fundamentally breaks them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:13 PM
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Potentially, but a woman can solve this by withholding sex until a relationship is formed. If the guy bails, then she has her answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:11 PM
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This is super disingenuous, and you know it. A woman having a one night stand is neither here nor there. A woman repeatedly winding up in short term situationships is rather different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 10:10 PM
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A solution. Basically, social scripts have to change from "know your worth!" (meaning, massively overrated yourself) to "know your worth...." (be realistic and shoot for something within a reasonable margin). This recalibration will likely happen eventually, it always does, but only after some sort of disaster (typical humans....we only make changes after it's too late).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:21 PM
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Hippie* “Hippy” describes someone with large or prominent hips.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:59 PM
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When people boil it down to an individual’s choices they are being a little disingenuous. No one would care if one random person was being a bit delusional. When it is happening en masse, however….now you have a societal-level problem that really cannot be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:51 PM
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Yes and no. If a woman thinks she is rating her value for a relationship, but is actually just conflating this with her value for sex….then there is a serious miscalibration. This is basically at the heart of every carousel or situationship experience. The woman thinks she’s worth a ring from ‘X’ calibre of man, and the man utterly disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:45 PM
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Don’t bother fighting with the trolls (most of the women here are trolls….genuinely). They will never give an inch, regardless of how obvious your points might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:48 AM
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What percent of your life is thrilling? Genuinely exciting. 5%? 1%? Life is boring. Life is work and brief periods of rest 99.5% of the time, with the occasional holiday thrown in. Anyone who thinks "safe" is "boring" needs a BIG dose of reality. I suspect they'll get bored of "exciting" (war zones, famines, near-death experiences) pretty quickly....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:35 PM
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Would you describe men who are attracted to other men wearing dresses (clap it femboy, or whatever you want) as making up a majority or a minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:01 AM
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Basically none of this is true. Biological men like biological women. On the fringes of this are a small number of perverts who have somehow developed an outsized influence and representation in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:54 AM
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All this tells me is that perverts fap way more than normal people. This shouldn’t be even slightly surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:53 AM
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But don’t we already have a submissive, demure, governmental sex slave? ….his name is Keir.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:29 AM
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You need to make sure that his words match both his actions and external reality. If some guy is visiting your country on holiday but tells you, "Yeah, baby, I totally want to move here for you!" ......he probably doesn't. The difficulty is that the above means women cannot live in fantasy land. They have to be serious about what they offer, and the likelihood that the man in question would actually settle for it. If they're a 10 and you're a 4....it's probably not going to work out, and you nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:05 PM
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You have completely missed the point….either intentionally or unintentionally. It’s not about the woman changing her name or not, it is about the whole family unit having the same surname, whatever it is. Also, practice among Latinos varies substantially. None of my Chicano ancestors had double names….they stuck with a single family name (Gonzalez, Cabrera, etc). My ex, another Dominguez, had a double-barrelled name, on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:10 AM
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I GUARANTEE you that in cultures where women often change their name when getting married that those families with one, shared name are wealthier, safer, and more successful than those without, on average. GUARANTEE YOU. You bringing up other societies is irrelevant (also, Latinos can and do change their name, or at the very least take up double-barreled names, which is functionally the same thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:33 AM
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I'd go so far as to say catcallers probably have a higher average bodycount than non-catcallers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:40 AM
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They SAY they’re more content single….but the reality is they aren’t. It’s pure cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:45 AM
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It’s frightening how many women I know in their 30s who are still riding the carousel and are racing towards the proverbial cat palace without realising it. I think the phenomenon is way more common, at least among professional women, than people want to admit. You say that there’s usually someone who will take such a woman, and that’s true! Will she take them, though? There’s the rub….
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:16 AM
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Families in which everyone has the same surname are probably much stronger and more successful than those that don’t. I’d wager a pretty penny on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:11 AM
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Let’s face it: the OP is just going through a rebellious phase and doesn’t want to get married “now”. The likelihood of her never getting married is very small, statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:07 AM
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The vast majority of people who ever lived were lucky if they managed a short, brutish existence with absolutely nothing like the ‘freedom’ we now enjoy. This is not a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:06 AM
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Illegal is ridiculous. I’m not surprised Canada would do such a crazy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:03 AM
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Women who aren’t “obsessed with marriage” lack the object permanence to think a few years, or decades, into the future. Get married young-ish, or you’re likely to have a VERY lonely 30-40 years to slog it out alone in the back nine of life. Not easy….
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:02 AM
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“ So clearly men trying to be a bad boy manipulative asshole isn’t helping them as the dating market hasn’t improved it has only gotten worse.” That’s not how causality works. If men were “trying to be bad boys” (no evidence of this) and the dating market continued to deteriorate it may be that those efforts were preventing the market from deteriorating faster than they otherwise would have…..meaning, they could be effective while still being insufficiently strong to fully reverse the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:46 AM
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This is just flat-out not true. Young men go for whomever says “yes”. It’s as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:38 AM
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How? Run away every time she shows up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:14 PM
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“ it's completely your decision to be in the friend zone.” No one has friend groups? Ever? When people say things like this it tells me they never actually go outside. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:31 AM
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“ A man should make his intent clear early and not settle into a friendship role if what he actually wants is romantic or sexual. ” This sounds smart on the Internet. But it makes no sense in reality. If most men would date most women then the logical conclusion of the above is that virtually no ma should be friends with almost any woman. After all, if he finds her attractive the he “shouldn’t settle into a friendship role”. That’s absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:28 AM
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Only a woman would think that their peak is about how they feel inside….not about how others regard them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:04 AM
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This would make sense in straight 1 on 1 situations…..but in friend groups the ‘friend zone’ is super common, especially when you’re young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:28 PM
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The friend zone is just unrequited love. You know, one of the oldest literary tropes and near-universal human experiences? I find it staggering that anyone would even briefly think that it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:26 PM
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So, in your view, it is impossible for a man to have unrequited feelings for a specific girl? This NEVER happens? Furthermore, is there something wrong with a man who cats a wide net? I don’t think there is. It doesn’t say nothing about he will treat his eventual partner. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:05 PM
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It is “absolutely not true” that people can broadly assess each other’s character? Everything is COMPLETELY random? Someone in a sharp suit and a smile is equally likely to mug you as someone frowning, in a hoodie with face tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:05 PM
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I would say a much more than probable estimation of a person’s character. Theoretically, abusers come in all shapes and sizes….but in reality they tend to pus boundaries and be obnoxious enough in public to spot if you have any sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:58 PM
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“No women have bad options” and “women have no bad options” ARE NOT THE SAME THING. You know that. Please stop pretending like you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:26 PM
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That’s a super disingenuous reading of the post, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:17 PM
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Women know more than five men. Of the dozens and dozens she knows or meets in a six month period are they ALL bad? Not a chance. It’s totally absurd to even hint at that possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:14 PM
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Decent in the universal sense: can provide, contribute, be kind, caring, and would be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:11 PM
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No, I’m not. At all. A girl’s orbiters are almost always perfectly acceptable options that she merely considers beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:11 PM
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2 is wrong. Women struggle to find very attractive men who will forsake all other women just for her. I have never known a woman that did not have MULTIPLE decent men vying for her attention. They are all into her and would be decent partners. We can’t pretend that it is otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:35 AM
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A woman’s options are almost never “bad”. If she thinks they are then her standards are delusional. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:28 AM
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“ Men are not only competing with other men. They are also competing with the peace a woman feels when she is single.” This is an oft-repeated cope that we need to shut down. Precious few people are single by choice. A woman might be at war with her own delusional standards (it happens often), but that doesn’t mean that men are “in competition with her peace”. That is a wild reframing of reality that tries to make lonely middle aged cat-moms out to be a viable option, when it is really just a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:27 AM
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If you mean “am I married”, the answer is no. That’s irrelevant though. Women are the selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:22 AM
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Yes, but divorce and remarriage was not the context we were discussing. That is obviously different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:13 AM
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Oh, I’m sure they found a good man. The question is do THEY think they found a good man….or do they think they settled. Getting married at the last possible second is classic AF/BB behaviour….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:34 AM
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Would grabbing the last branch on the way down really count as “finding their prince”? It’s possible….but very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:22 AM
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“If you don't meet the diagnostic criteria for a mental health disorder, then you are at a baseline level of functionality in terms of mental health.” While this should, theoretically, be true I don’t think it actually pans out given how unscientific mental health disorders are. Loads of people with obviously unhealthy/non-functional lifestyles are non-diagnosable (technically nothing wrong with them), and loads of people well within the normative range are diagnoses and ‘treated’ for all manner…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:30 AM
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“ To me sex is as romantic as a handshake.” This is easily the saddest thing I’ll read all week….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:12 AM
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I can’t help but see prostitution as rape, at the end of the day, and cannot respect anyone that would even CONSIDER seeing a “sex worker”, let alone those that actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:09 AM
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Success rates for therapy, outside of extreme cases (combat-related PTSD). How many people return to a measurable baseline of functionality as a direct result of therapy? You know, the exact metric we use for every other medical field. I broke my arm a few years ago. The doctors and physical therapists patched me up, and my arm is now functional again. Their intervention had a clear and measurable (obvious!) impact. I don’t think you can say that for the vast majority of therapy patients today….…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:08 AM
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What sort of success rates are we talking about though? I also notice that you mention clear, fairly extreme, diagnosable problems. Those seem like good candidates for therapy….and they make up a tiny percentage of actual therapy patients today (the vast majority are middle class white women who want to be told they’re amazing).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:53 AM
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So, it never occurred to you to invite someone to do something? What do you do if you’re hungry? Do you eat? I guess in extreme circumstances like yours it may have helped, but this strikes me as a very niche use case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:50 AM
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I have never in my life seen someone helped by therapy. Literally not once. I have, however, known several people (women, all of them) who were actively harmed by it…..therapy fed their delusions and made them even more self-absorbed and demanding. I think therapy, as it currently exists, is basically a disaster. It MIGHT have some utility for PTSD (veterans, in particular), but outside of that I think it is ultimately a fad that will start to die out in the coming decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:46 AM
1

Yeah, pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:47 AM
0

No, “emotionally unavailable” means “you’re the side-chick and don’t want to admit it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:50 AM
4

You think that the entire developed world is a “bad system”? Have you ever even been to the Global South? Do you think that is preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:43 AM
3

This is a bizarre post. I’ve never developed a distaste for a woman after sex. To even be in that position in the first place would require shocking levels of self-ignorance and a trial disregard for anyone but yourself…. It’s telling regarding the OP, and he didn’t seem to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:51 PM
1

Shoulder pads have been a part of any decently-made jacket or blazer for at least a century-plus….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:49 PM
5

I mean, address the points raised. Directly. Are sub-replacement birth rates a problem. Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:47 PM
4

….and yet you cannot allay even one of these concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:23 PM
3

Add in that AI will absolutely ravage the sort of bureaucratic office jobs that are predominantly female. The next 50 years are going to be hellacious, for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:21 PM
8

Exactly. All of those articles mistake a symptom for the cause. If men could go out and get laid THEY WOULD. Obviously!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 PM
3

Yes, because women, even as they’re racing towards 40, are often delusional and think that any day now their prince will come. They skip the panic phase and go straight from over-optimism to bitterness and regret. Men learn at a young age that relationships are precious and far from a given….so they can weigh up their chances more accurately, which can induce panic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:18 PM
-1

"It is much more difficult for women." This is physically impossible. Everyone has certain caloric needs. Exceeding those needs, particularly over a long period of time (required to build up fat), requires more effort than eating less. This is true in the most basic, physical sense. You hands and jaws move less. You spend less money. You cook less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:29 PM
0

Literally all someone has to do is stop eating. That’s it. It takes more effort to be fat than it does to be thin….literal negative effort is all that’s required.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:40 PM
3

It’s because women hate making decisions. It puts them in the position of potentially making the wrong decision, which induces paralysis, which is why a question is mostly met with a ‘no’. “I’ll be at the wine bar’s jazz night. You should come along” puts zero pressure on her to make a quick decision, and lets her imagine you do something cool without her or, worse, with another woman. I hate that female psychology works this way, it is hard to respect, but it is what it is. You can’t change it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:54 AM
1

“ Women aren't trying to lie or mislead anyone, at worst they are being overly polite” Men have a word for what you describe here; we call it “lying”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:47 PM
1

Men are only ever written off for bad behaviour AFTER the woman decides she doesn’t want him anymore (or after he leaves of his own accord). It is ex post facto rationalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:18 PM
0

Most women don’t really talk to exchange factual information…they talk to project an image of themselves, first and foremost. Most women have no epistemology. They don’t learn about the world, they merely project onto it, and hope for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:17 PM
1

Those men would not be cowardly if they had any reasonable chance of success. Their lack of initiative is a symptom, not a cause. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:18 PM
-1

First off, what Americans do is none of my business. Here in Western Europe the VAST majority of young people are not overweight. Secondly, every single one of them COULD be slim, if they put forth even the smallest amount of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:18 PM
2

Pointing to global population is a cop-out, and you know it. I don’t care if Nigerien women want to have 7 or 8 kids apiece. I do care when French, Italian, Japanese, and South Korean women struggle to have even ONE kid apiece. If we lose developed societies we will NOT claw them back on any sort of reasonable timeframe (centuries).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:21 PM
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Being slim is EXTREMELY easy. Especially when you're young. You only need a TINY amount of self-control to achieve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:11 PM
2

If the birth rate stayed up then this would theoretically work (although the resulting violence and instability would likely destroy the population within a generation). The birth rate did NOT stay up, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:12 PM
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Every single woman alive was young once, and virtually all of them were slim. Being and young and slim pretty much ticks the box of “attractive” 95% of the time. So….its not even remotely comparable to the standards placed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:09 PM
0

Because if they don’t every developed society on Earth will fail, and will be replaced by brutally authoritarian, patriarchal societies. Women’s standards will, single-handedly, cast the developed world back into the ‘bad old days’, if left unchecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:08 PM
-1

Women will always prefer a man with too much female attention over one with not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:09 AM
4

Also true. Most of the trans men I've known (and I've known/know a lot) started as butch lesbians. Most seem to be thriving as 'men' though, so more power to them.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 09:03 AM
3

I think it's worse, actually. I think they want to 'be' men (at least, to fill the masculine role), but know they never really can (biology exists, for better or worse). It puts them in an impossible position...so I can understand why many feel resentful.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 08:52 AM
1

This is basic intersectionality. You’re getting hit twice: once for being black, the other for being a man. Richard Reeves talk about this a fair bit (he’s white, but I think his kids are biracial/black-presenting? I don’t recall exactly). There’s no real solution sadly. Even being better than all that still puts the burden of being a “model X” on your shoulders. It just sucks. All there is to it. All you can do is carry on and make the best of it. It’s all any of us can do.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 07:34 AM
3

I’m straight, but have always had lots of queer friends. Butch lesbians are by far the most frequent “man haters” (for reasons I’ll never understand). Everyone else seems to be fairly normal (or at least along a normative distribution of attitudes and beliefs).
/r/MensRights20/04/26 07:28 AM
6

Well, yeah. Women have fewer hobbies than men, and tend to socialise A LOT more. It’s a natural imbalance.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 07:24 AM
2

So Nazi Germany should have been allowed to dominate Europe? This is sheer nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:42 AM
1

Veterans all over the world already have a long list of programmes that give them advantages in education and employment in exchange for service. You can’t give out those sorts of privileges for theoretical service, especially since conscription (not “the draft”, which is an exclusively American term) is pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:39 AM
2

Nonsense. It depends on the woman. Some don’t really grow into their features until mid- or even late-20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:36 AM
2

None of that is about hedonism, it’s about maximising your odds. If you date three women at a time for a month or two your odds of being in a committed relationship by month three are way higher than if you just date one. That’s the theory (in my experience is half works…it’s far from perfect).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:34 AM
2

No one is suggesting that age is a magical process that makes men more attractive. Rather, that what makes a man attractive often takes time to accomplish, which translates into men “having it easier” as they get older. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:32 AM
-3

Hot 35 year old men mostly prefer 40 year women over 25 year old strippers, OBVIOUSLY! (Sounds like pure nonsense, if you ask me)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:22 AM
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This. What women call “natural” is almost always the result of A LOT of work, on the part of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:45 PM
-2

This is exactly what I mean. It’s something I’ve seen pretty often, and likely skews the volunteering figures pretty substantially.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:41 PM
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How many of those female volunteers are living off the largesse of a man in their life? I’d wager nearly all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:22 AM
0

Sorry, I didn’t realise you were a Russian troll. Every credible source out there puts Russian KIA as 250-300k. Your suggestion of half that is ludicrous. Also, suggesting that Ukrainian losses are HIGHER than Russian, despite being on the defensive, runs afoul of all military thinking for the last couple centuries. You’re just wrong, and probably maliciously so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 07:00 AM
1

“ The life expectancy of men who get sent to the trenches is now reportedly measured in days, and people know this.” This is literally not possible. The Ukrainian army is a little shy of a million strong. Let’s say that roughly 100,000 of those are deployed at the front, at any one time. If life expectancy was “days” then Ukraine would be losing hundreds of thousands, dead, EVERY WEEK, let alone every month. In reality their losses are probably closer to 15,000/month. Really try to think things …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/26 10:50 PM
3

"People should have been patriotic enough about their countries to stand up and fight." This is pure theory. It has basically no analogue in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:21 PM
2

So, should the US and U.K. used conscription in WW2?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:39 PM
1

Pro-women quotas at every stage of life from school through to retirement constitutes ever so slightly more than “a voice in their own equality”, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:34 AM
1

Queens were sole or primary rulers about 20% of the time in European history from the late Middle Ages to today. That’s more than “only a few”, and totally discounts the queens who still wielded substantial power and influence if they were married to a king (so, the other 80%). You’re just factually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:33 AM
2

Number if books read per year is a great metric, but not in the way you might think. “Oh, I read 20 books this year!” universally means you were reading meaningless trash….scarcely better than television (and maybe worse). I might read 3-4 books cover to cover each year, but they’re all serious, scholarly tomes, not NYT bestseller trash. So, I easily fall into that 70%, but does that make me “uninformed” compared to someone that read a dozen Star Wars books?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:32 AM
2

“ They didn't get power or to rule.” Yeah, Queens never existed! Oh….wait…..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:22 AM
1

“ Drug testing has been predominantly or even exclusively done with male populations” That’s because women refuse to sign up for experimental drug testing. Whose fault is that? “ Men are revered for aggression and ambition, women are excoriated for those same traits. Men believe they are somehow “leaders” by virtue of their maleness and expect women to follow and “submit”.” Women ultimately choose who they are going to fuck, and men play the roles that work best. We are operating around incentiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:21 AM
2

This is pure BS. You don’t get to wear the mantle of OTHER women’s oppression, and then use it as an excuse to brutally oppress men who did absolutely nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:15 AM
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As a Swede you’ll understand: feminism has no victory conditions. The more women gain control the more they will use their position to benefit themselves. The benevolence men showed women in expanding equal rights and uplifting women socially and professionally over the past three generations will NOT be shown to men in a woman-dominated society. My profession is majority-female, and yet we still have hiring processes that privilege women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:13 AM
3

MPDG hasn’t been a trope in at least 20 years. Why is it even vaguely worth considering or talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:01 PM
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“Sure, it has worked for the last 250,000 years….but, it’s time to move on” Yeah, sure. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:00 PM
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Let me guess….you’re American. Where are all the Scottish or Portuguese men trying to “take women’s rights away”!? The don’t exist. Even in the US the only right that has been threatened is abortion, and even then it is still accessible in the vast, vast majority of instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:58 PM
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EXACTLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:23 PM
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THANK YOU! I have a relative who is 90 years old. Despite being from a dirt poor mining community, born to a mother who literally never learned to read or write, my relative had a full blown corporate career, including a long stint in Hong Kong, that started in the early 1950s. This idea that women are only freshly emancipated is just wrong. Every single woman alive in the western world today has had near-limitless opportunity. You’d have to go back to women born in the 1800s to start seeing rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:20 AM
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Ah, so….daddy issues. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:16 AM
2

This just feels like a weird TDS post. Men who “want to take rights away from women”, if they even exist in the West, are an insanely small minority. The only thing you have to grasp at is abortion, and only if you’re an American, and even then you have to ignore the fact that the anti-abortion movement and effort is probably 50/50 men and women….it is not a male-only movement out to victimise women. Not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:14 AM
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Notice the phrase “as anything other than a relic of its time”. I accounted for historical studies. Reading Engels the same way you might read Gibbon or Khaldun is totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:06 AM
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This association unfairly maligns feminism. Reading Engels as anything other than a relic of its time is downright ludicrous. You wouldn’t read works from any serious scholarly discipline that were this old….they would be widely recognised as horribly out of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:58 AM
0

Gender roles are neither equal, nor unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:13 AM
2

Gender roles helped propel one particular savannah-trekking ape to be the most successful species in the history of our planet. But, sure, they’re “stupid”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:10 AM
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Weren’t you being super disrespectful by not having your ducks in a row, knowing that timing might be tight (since you would’ve known the travel schedule ahead of time)? Who could’ve guessed that Chicago might be colder than Florida!?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:09 AM
1

Not unless they truly want that. I’ve encouraged those In close to to go out and give men in their city a shot (this across multiple cities and three countries….). They never find anyone good enough, which I just don’t believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:59 PM
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"You tell them that humans are social creatures, we all need each other, people need friends, people fall in love with each other" Where, exactly, does RP argue that humans are not social creatures? Aren't you fed up of attacking straw men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:35 PM
2

I've met quite a few women like this. All mid-30s, educated, professionals. All single. The vast majority will die alone because they'd rather pine for some criminal that fucked them a decade ago rather than be realistic and just pick one of the hundreds of thousands of perfectly reasonable mates available to them. I'm convinced this one demographic, alone, is driving birth rates down below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:34 PM
2

Drugs are not bad....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:30 PM
2

Where, exactly, does RP claim that bonding doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:21 PM
13

Why can tall people never admit their privilege? Why? It doesn't make you a lesser person. "MAYBE" you have a leg up? Fucking unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:19 PM
-4

Being a SAHM is sometimes a sacrifice, but for loads of women it is an aspiration, pure and simple. This framing of SAHMs as sacrificial angels is total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:36 PM
1

I didn't mention inheritance OR "exploitation". You're strawmanning REAL hard. Anyway, focusing on inheritance is a red herring. Wealthy families are able to set their children up in ways that poorer families just can't. It's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:47 AM
2

Even this I don’t think it’s quite true. When I think of my married male friends they basically all married the first girl who would have them. Every single one. The only men who are picky about commitment are the men with lots and lots of options (Chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:07 AM
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The most perpetually single man I know is GREAT at banter. He’s been the life of every party for as long as I’ve known him (basically our whole adult lives). The most successful men I know all share ONE trait: they’re tall. Literally every single one. But sure, banter is totally gonna make her wet, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:21 AM
2

The number one predictive factor of your financial position is the wealth of your parents. The vast majority of wealthy people are not “successful”, they were born with IMMENSE privileges and just carried them forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:57 AM
5

There are more sinners than saints. WTF is your actual point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:02 PM
5

Hypathia did not invent calculus. Also, the absence of modern birth control does not mean that women had NO birth control....there were local remedies and, most importantly, the pull out method, which was probably widely practiced. I don't know why you think women received 'zero encouragement' to be great thinkers. This is just wrong. At least as far back as the Assyrians elite women received excellent educations and were groomed to be diplomats and leaders (the still extent letters of Ashurbani…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:08 PM
1

Expecting your partner to contribute something does not make a relationship “transactional”. That’s ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:03 AM
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What takes more skill: getting pregnant or inventing calculus?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:52 AM
1

Everyone just goes off looks at first. That’s fine and normal. The difference is that on apps people who are less attractive never even get a word in. Their odds might be low in real life, but they are ZERO in online dating. That makes a huge difference at the population level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:42 AM
1

“ Wherever women are, we have been at this for roughly 50 years. Men have been at this forever” What particular skills from my Pictish forebears do I retain due to being a man? I’d love to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:09 PM
2

Well, yeah. Obviously. As men we exist to be used: by our employers, by the government, and by our dependents (wife and kids, generally speaking). It's just part of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:34 PM
1

Yep. It is ALWAYS this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:44 AM
0

Looking at the relative increase and ignoring the real increase in risk is disingenuous. The risk in infinitesimal….this making a six-fold increase basically nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:40 AM
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“ Oxford study is only relevant in countries where white men have more institutional power through simple numbers.” You do realise that “Oxford” does not perform any “studies”, right? Employees Oxford do, and they come from all over the world, and would do their research at any institution who happened to hire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:10 AM
2

“ I think self-exploration is really not all it’s cracked up to be. I’m not sure our ‘selves’ are even real.” Firmly agree. I’ve come to loathe terms like “authentic” and “real you”. They’re basically nonsense. If speaking a different language can change your personality (I know it did with me and most other people I’ve spoken to about the phenomenon), just imagine how time/place/age/circumstance can change you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:02 AM
1

This sounds strongly like you’re dating in America…so you’re basically dating a really narrow range of women, and just don’t quite realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:57 AM
1

It’s the draw of the exotic. I’m a native English speaker, and have only rarely dated other native English speakers. It makes life more fun (for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:56 AM
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Presumably they would eventually adapt and be indistinguishable from native men. Humans are pretty adaptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:53 AM
1

Being called “little black dress” or “LBC”? The oral and the written are two different media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:47 PM
1

I did not, you just refuse to admit that “third space” dialogue flat out makes no sense. It’s a flaccid excuse for laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:44 PM
2

Apparently black bears kill about 0.6 people per year in North America. About the same rate as adders kill people in Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:43 PM
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Hard to say. Are current teachers paid what they’re worth, on average? Possibly. Would better pay induce better people to teach? Likely. Does any of this mean that “teachers are underpaid”? It’s hard to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:42 PM
1

According to my phone I did 1,500 steps. (Although the phone undercounts, as I don’t always have it on me). I spent most of the day interviewing an old veteran about his experiences in the Troubles. I guess I’m barely living…..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:40 PM
1

Culture and context matters. I’m not sure the term exists here (UK).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:36 PM
1

I'd never heard it, and only VERY rarely see anyone in a little black dress. Full or knee-length, sure....all the time. Maybe this is a club thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:24 AM
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All of those things still exist, and you have access to them (and why an adult is looking at the boy scouts as a 'third space' I have no idea....). There is not a single third space that your grandparents had that you don't. Literally not one. Bars, churches, dance halls, cafes, libraries, cinemas, theatres......they all still exist, you just don't go. That's your fault, not society's.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:23 AM
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Ah, fair enough. Not sure it needs its own acronym, but there we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:59 AM
1

Black bears usually run away, but you can’t bank on that 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:58 AM
2

I didn’t know that about wolves. Interesting. I’ve had a few relatively close encounters with bears (some much closer than I’d like!), and even though the bears were ultimately chill, I’m still choosing the man, every time (obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:55 AM
5

What is this weird BP obsession with influencers and “courses”? I’ve never heard of a RP course, have no idea what they would “teach”, and wouldn’t even know where to begin looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:21 AM
2

Just more misandrist BS….as expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:36 AM
5

If you buy real food (fruit, veggies, protein) you don’t need labels…..it’s ALL healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:32 AM
2

Since 2014 I think I’ve dated exactly ONE woman from “my culture”. Every single other person I’ve dated, whether it be a single date or a whole relationship, has been from a different culture, all the way down to native language, with (at times) only minimal crossover to my own. It has made things more interesting, rather than more difficult. OP’s argument is simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:28 AM
3

“ The only pilled people in this age range are divorced beta-providers who are now realizing that just having a stable job isn't enough to secure a partner anymore.” It’s so cute that you think people born in 1990 could get a partner just because they have a stable job…. This was maybe (!) true of people born in 1930!!! Times changed a LONG time ago…..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:18 AM
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This should be self-evident, and yet bluepillers will swoop in and try to tell you it’s all in your head. If men were not struggling TRP would not even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:15 AM
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PPD does seem more like a place for people to attack RP, rather than a space where the RP can meaningfully dialogue with the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:14 AM
2

Also, what the hell is a “LBD”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:13 AM
2

The online vs IRL distinction faded at least a decade ago. Everyone is on the internet, and thus they bring the ‘real world’ with them when they go online (there isn’t even the act of “going online” anymore….we’re almost never NOT online). Anonymity and the freedom to say the unspoken can make the internet even more real than real life, when it is at its best.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:10 AM
0

Which third spaces have been taken away from you, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:06 AM
5

Fewer people, not “less”. (Although they may be lesser, but I’m not the judge of that)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:40 PM
3

Ok, now do the 30-21st percentile and see the results. You’ll see women in this range getting WAY more likes than equivalent men. Pointing just to the top is disingenuous. Of course, everyone likes them. The difference is the vast and rapid drop-off from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:35 AM
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Exactly. Getting half the assets after marriage is basically getting 75% of all assets: the half you got at the time, plus half of whatever is left over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:18 AM
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How is this not just a verbose 80/20 post? It ALWAYS comes back to 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:37 AM
1

It depends on income though, does it not? The last girl I dated was nine years younger and a multi-millionaire. She paid more than I did (obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:34 AM
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When you ask people who are red pill, or red pill adjacent, what made them that way they pretty much all have the same answer: their experiences with women. Influencers merely capitalise on the atomisation of society….they don’t cause it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:20 AM
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If you mean being a school teacher....because it pays less than half of what I earn now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:53 PM
1

Exactly this. The confidence and skill set translates to lots of other environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:18 AM
2

Being “too interested” is obviously contextual, relative, and circumstantial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:17 AM
0

Teaching is many things, but it is NOT a hard job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:38 AM
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You misunderstand. It’s not that being disinterested is attractive, it’s that being too interested is strongly unattractive. Training men to be less interested just puts them in a safer category (more likely to lead to success).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:49 PM
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It’s not genetic, it’s about feedback loops. The hot girl is the life of every party (should she want to be). The homely girl isn’t. So. Partying is incentivised for one, and less for the other. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:24 PM
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Yeah, agree with the OP. Location matters A LOT. I’m fortunate to live in a city that matches my vibe and has a steady stream of new people coming all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:18 PM
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I don't know about "learned", but they can absolutely be improved....pretty dramatically. I've been fortunate to be in work environments where I am constantly having to meet new people and take charge of the room....it's been amazing for the development of my social and inter-personal skills. You learn to 'perform', but with authenticity, which is a great skillset to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:23 AM
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Ah, yes, I’m sure being a famous multimillionaire has nothing to do with it…..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:22 PM
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Yes, but this effort comes ON TOP of all the normal masculine pressures of achievement and performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:02 AM
4

Celebrities are different though because there is an audience that WANTS TO LIKE THEM, so they can play to the crowd. A random stranger acting the way a celebrity does in front of fans won’t be seen as charismatic….they’ll be seen as deranged. Context is king.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:59 AM
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In life social skills are huge, no doubt. They are often the make or break in professional relationships and networking. I tend to be pretty charismatic (as far as I can tell/am told), and it is probably my biggest strength…..but objectively my dating life would still be easier if I was 6’3” instead of 5’6” (and a lot easier, I reckon).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:54 AM
2

If truly ugly then there’s still gym, status, and personality, but personality is by far the weakest of the three.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:50 AM
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So, I should take the view of random redditors over my decades of experience? No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:20 PM
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In my experience personality has near-zero predictive value for how successful a man will be at dating. Height, on the hand, has a VERY strong correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:24 PM
0

“ as women entered the labor force, men did not pick up the slack in terms of domestic duties” This is just factually incorrect. In every study I’ve ever seen the share of male domestic duties has only risen (and substantially).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:07 PM
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“More”, of a tiny number, yes….and my gut says that in the US (where those stats tend to come from) “breadwinner moms” are more a reflection of mass incarceration than it is of some actively choosing to pair with men who earn noticeably less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:25 AM
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This is insane. I’ve heard women compare their men (down to the grossest detail), but I had NEVER heard men do this. Talking about another man’s woman, in any way, is a great way to get yourself popped in the mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:21 AM
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“ My experience as a woman is that I observe more menwho are monkey branchers and have FOMO.” We have term for these men….”Chad”. 80/20 strikes again and NEVER fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:17 AM
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No, men are grateful. We know how bad it can be, and actually appreciate when things are good. Women are always in search of “better”, REGARDLESS of where they are in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:15 AM
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That’s because the dad is doing that ON TOP of earning most of the money. He is going above and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:13 AM
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“ Men don’t seem to understand this because their own standards for women they’re romantically interested in is be nice and don’t cheat and be cute.” You forgot that men’s estimation of a “good man” is also directly related to women’s preference for assholes and abusers. If women didn’t proactively search out abusers to date then men wouldn’t consider “non-abuse” as a “good” trait, but rather as a standard one. As ever, women have all the power na shave shapes the dating word in exactly the ways…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:13 AM
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The link didn’t work for me, but I’m assuming that they’re measuring “most watched” by number of hours played or number of views, rather than number of unique viewers? This could just be showing that trans people are more obsessively consumed by porn (which tracks with most of the trans people I’ve known….they tend to be totally sex-obsessed) rather than showing a broad market for trans porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:01 AM
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Men chase after all viable women simultaneously. That obviously includes hot women, but does not exclude average women. PPD women can't understand this basic premise: men don't hunt....we fish with a large net.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:50 PM
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Pure strawman nonsense…..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:02 AM
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Women are adult humans; “female” does not carry either an age or a species designation. They are not really synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:59 AM
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A study in PNAS a decade ago surveyed maybe a dozen famines from different parts of the world across the last three centuries and found that, in all of them, women were substantially more likely to survive than men. When I asked friends and colleagues why they thought this might be several colleagues, women mostly, said something like “when all else fails the women always have something to sell….men don’t”. I don’t think you had to go as far as actual sex work to realise that for most women “let…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:51 AM
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In your scenario whether the guy texts back or not the Chad text is still probably working. So, what’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:42 AM
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Of course. Usually not first overall, but once a basic connection has formed it’s not a bad idea to avoid texting her, even if you want to, and let things sit for a day or two sometimes. Let her miss you a little bit, think about you, and then choose to text you. It’ll feel better for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:38 AM
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So, it's only a boundary if it is openly stated as such?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:38 PM
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Nah, disagree. Texting back too eagerly is the number one way to give a girl the ick. You have got to give her space and make her text first (at least sometimes). As a relationship develops, then you can text more regularly and freely (you’re already bonded at that point).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:40 PM
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How exactly is escalation not inherently pushing boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:59 PM
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In Britain we do love a good queue….but I prefer to look for physical cues with a potential partner. Queues have too many other people waiting in line for their turn….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:59 PM
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Meh. Boundaries need to be (gently) pushed, or nothing will ever happen. On my first date with a girl a while back she just turned around and kissed me, unexpectedly, at the end of the date. She pushed boundaries in doing so. Other escalations, physical or emotional, have all started from one of us pushing the other’s boundaries a little bit. It’s kind of necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:28 PM
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Politics is primarily a matter of economics. The culture war is overwhelmingly propagated to protect the monied elite. It is a distraction that only occasionally has real salience (when it directly engages with matters of equality, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:26 PM
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Dems from blue states cannot win, same as GOP from red states can’t. Newsom has no chance, even in the primary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:23 PM
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“ if I do it too early he thinks im too easy and will bail” This is not a thing. There is not a man on Earth who thinks this. “Aw man, she had SEX with me!? I guess I don’t like her anymore….” Utterly ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:28 AM
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You honestly think Japan is a feminist country? Really? Why are American leftists even more chauvinistic and insular than your conservatives? It’s utterly bizarre….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:18 AM
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Politics doesn’t work that way. A Democrat from a blue state will massively struggle for sheer systemic reasons, to say nothing of Newsom’s seriously checkered past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:16 AM
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First off, no, DEI is decidedly not “over”. A president cannot change culture (they struggle to even change laws). Secondly, Trump has no authority over Europe (thankfully), and DEI is still very much the rule here (at least in Northern and Western Europe, can’t speak for the South or East).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:14 AM
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Why would French conservatism be anything like American conservatism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:11 AM
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A much larger percentage of wealthy men marry a substantially poorer woman than poor men happen to marry a wealthy woman. It’s not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:49 PM
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By leftist they mean leftist. “Liberal” does not mean what you think it means (typical American brain rot).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:47 PM
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This definitely explains why East Asia is virulently anti-feminist…..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:46 PM
3

Obama and Newsom, yes. Not Bernie. Bernie still fights for common people (if perhaps not as vigorously as he used to).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:33 PM
2

You realise that Newsom has basically no shot at the presidency, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:32 PM
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Feminism, expressed in DEI, has made it harder for men to get jobs, even if they are the most qualified applicant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:30 PM
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Yeah, it’s true all across the western world, sadly. I’m a socialist, but I generally prefer the company of centrists and conservatives. People on the left don’t know how to ever just “switch off” and relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:29 PM
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At the current rate there won’t be a “next generation”….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:41 AM
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Yeah, pretty much this. Spot on, I’m afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:40 AM
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This is the single best post in all of PPD. Chad-chasing and alpha-widows are so common that they’ve become a regular fixture in every social circle I’ve been a part of for the past decade already, and yet people will still try to claim that “the bar is in hell”…. The birth/marriage/sex decline is 100% driven by women, globally. They have collectively chosen to marry Instagram rather than have a real husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:35 AM
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“ 1/3 women are abused sexually or physically by men” Bollocks. These sorts of stats are wildly blown up by stretching terms to their absolute limit, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:20 AM
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Men don’t need to give IOIs. If you’re a reasonably attractive woman (even slightly above average) every single man in the room wants you. You know it. They know it. There’s absolutely nothing that needs to be said. Women, on the other hand, can and do send IOIs that range if very clear (touching, giggling, inviting) to utterly inscrutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:12 AM
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The “woke” thing was just a typo. It was meant to read “women”. Anyway, anyone that trots out the “women just want….” Framework is totally disingenuous. ”Women really just want cheap dates, regular communication, and to be treated like a human being (by six foot tall, millionaire CEOs)”…….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:54 AM
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I don’t think it is porn, actually. I’ve been watching porn for decades and would have to go WAY out of my way to see anything “kink” related. I think it is more the cultural zeitgeist of women becoming dramatically more left wing in the past 20 years. They have imbibed a culture that shuns the normal as lame and “vanilla”, which creates a naturally pull towards the extreme. Basically, the rise of kink (which I have absolutely noticed) is basically a byproduct of political changes among women, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:42 PM
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The only solipsism is this constantly repeated remark that somehow sex is almost never enjoyable or pleasurable for a woman. It’s pure BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:48 PM
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Coal miners and chimney sweeps…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:20 PM
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“ Men typically give their best effort in the beginning and things will only go downhill from there. Once they have sex with you a few times, their effort drops by at least 50%.” Yes, and whose fault is this? Women set the bar ludicrously high, such that a man could not possibly meet the standard over any real stretch of time. So, we give short bursts of 120% and then settle down into a more sustainable 80%, because life has other demands, and we cannot invest literally 100% into a woman we just…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:18 PM
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Put another way: women lie (but this is somehow man’s fault).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:13 PM
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I know you think you’re being cute, but it just doesn’t work this way. Men are used for their resources all the time. The woman takes, but does not reciprocate. When women get “used for sex” BOTH parties get to have sex. It is a neutral situation. No one owes you more (another date, being official, or whatever), and you cannot claim to have lost anything. The two situations are not equivalent at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:12 PM
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Also not true, but they may define politics differently, or focus on different aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:47 AM
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I would argue that politics barely matter, and can almost always be negotiated around. I am certainly not “a trumper”. My last serious girlfriend was, at best, ambivalent about aid to Ukraine. I am passionate about it, viewing the war as an existential crisis for Europe and whatever is left of the world order. Should I have dumped her over her views?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:47 AM
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You cannot blame illegal immigration on one American political party. That’s an absurd position. You guys are dealing with a decades-long failure of successive governments since Reagan’s amnesty 40 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:44 AM
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I’ve flown a fair bit recently, and I hadn’t noticed anything (probably because it’s all been in Europe…..America is not the entire world).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:42 AM
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OP spewing more narrow-minded, America-brained nonsense. Not everyone is stuck in party-politics purgatory. I’ve not dated someone from my country in ten years. Politics tends to be very national (if not even more local), so there’s no easy way to compare. I’m a socialist, but dated a French conservative. At no point did it feel weird. Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:38 AM
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The war on “nice” is all just a giant psyop to normalise women’s terrible dating choices. It is completely and utterly Orwellian.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:09 PM
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All of this is pointless semantics. The fact is that women prefer at least a little brutality. They won’t admit it, but that doesn’t change the basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:58 PM
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Women socialise more because socialisation is a guarantee of future resources for women in a way that is just isn’t for men. Men HAVE to produce. Women can produce, but they can also leech. So, being well-liked in the broader community and exchanging acts of caring increases the likelihood that a woman will be cared for in future, if needs be. Socialising is also a key component of female hierarchy building. Every interaction is an opportunity to reaffirm one’s station in the hierarchy , so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:01 AM
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Dude, don’t even bother. PPD women are troll-bots. They will not engage in honest conversation, no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:54 AM
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I searched and couldn’t find accusations of BB having sex with minors. Are you sure? Also, “barely legal” is a meaningless concept. Something is either legal, or it isn’t. There is nothing predatory about performing clearly legal actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:53 AM
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You honestly think RP influencers have created a political movement? That’s ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:50 AM
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Having sex is difficult for like 99% of men. If you threw men out into the wild and gave them 24 hours to have sex a HUGE percentage would fail. ZERO women would fail, unless they straight up just refused to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:49 AM
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This is flat out just not true (god, the privilege dripping off the ignorance in this post is amazing). I’m unusually charismatic. Even though I enjoy it, and I basically can’t stop myself, it is still draining and it absolutely costs effort. I can’t be charismatic for 12 straight hours, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:47 AM
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Surely I can’t be the only one that just hates his smug little Guardian-reader face? I don’t know when or why the mainstream, Anglophone Left decided that “smug” would be their calling card. It was a horrible choice and puts people off of anything left of centre.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:17 PM
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The situation is probably not as described. The likelihood of the poster having let themselves go first is a very likely part of the story that’s been strategically left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:37 PM
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Not my experience at all. By far the hottest woman I ever slept with gave it up immediately. (Admittedly, I’ve never been one for hook-ups, for what that’s worth)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:37 PM
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I “gave up” for about three years in my late 20s due to my geographical situation. I was living in a desolate part of the world and there was literally NO ONE I could connect with on any level. I didn’t make a single friend, male or female, and literally did not meet even one woman I thought was even remotely suitable. Things got vast better after I moved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:47 AM
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This is sheer madness….. (And, besides, it’s “give no quarter”, not “not give a quarter”…..the term has nothing to do with US currency)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:45 AM
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“Be yourself” is terrible advice. If I really like a girl I’ll want to talk/text/see her constantly. I don’t pursue this because it’d scare off all but the most needy women. So, I rein in my own desires and just play it cool. “Being myself” would’ve meant being forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:17 AM
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100% on frame. Making it known that you’re perfectly happy to walk away, and that you have other options (even if you don’t) can be critical. It is all part of emotional regulation, and can be the make or break with certain women in certain situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:17 AM
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For men, as a whole, this is a good thing, though. Cringe men make it way easier to look better by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:37 PM
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Men aren’t “gate keeping” standards….we’re just advocating for clear and consistent logic. If your standards lead you to be repeatedly pumped and dumped….maybe your standards aren’t so great? (Not specifically pointed at the OP)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:02 PM
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…..I would notice it if I heard it in conversation, obviously. I’m not simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:58 PM
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“ They will throw "jokes" constantly at their buddies if they think anything is "wrong" with the partner” In 40 years I have literally NEVER seen this happen. Women do this, I’ve seen it….men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:26 PM
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Teasing someone is not “putting them down” (if done properly).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:38 PM
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Teasing just shows you’re not intimidated by her. That’s all. Nothing too serious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:31 PM
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Fair enough. I’m a foreigner, so sort of hover outside the true class system, but my professional circle runs fairly middle class, and occasionally posh. On the rare occasion someone wears cologne they usually get shit for it (in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:31 PM
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Is this a class thing? I might smell cologne 2-3 times a year. This is unlike the US where scents are very common (it was considered a basic part of dress for men until very recently).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:04 AM
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Any woman who makes you jump through these sorts of hoops doesn’t like you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:15 AM
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Wait, so no man has ever used a man? Ever? The sheer fact of her presence means she loves him? This is horribly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:59 AM
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Their species, and more specifically their culture, will live on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:20 PM
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Because the world is better with Koreans in it, and we shouldn't let societies commit self-genocide because Instagram told women to have delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:48 PM
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EVERYONE settles. That's life. This "settling" discourse is why no developed country on Earth can actually manage to replace it's own population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:47 PM
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Yes. Same as 99.999% of other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:38 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:18 PM
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Not quite, but decidedly “straighter” than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:47 PM
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There is no society that has ever existed in human history that did not have hierarchy. "it’s a human social construction" You say this so confidently when describing...human social interactions. Are you suggesting that humans might just stop acting like humans at some point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:39 AM
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Hierarchy exists whether you want to admit it or not. Men merely accept it, and shape it to improve its efficacy, rather than “creating” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:01 AM
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This is half right, but misses the elephant in the room. Men recognise the existence of hierarchy and organise to make it more efficient. Women pretend hierarchy doesn’t exist because it’ll hurt people’s feelings, and then fall into a covert hierarchy that hides behind veiled equality that makes effective leadership vastly more difficult and coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:36 AM
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They weren’t trans at the time, for what it’s worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:33 AM
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“ But if someone goes “no because dating you would make me gay”, then I’d call it transphobic” As usual, the recognition of obvious reality is “-phobic”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:26 AM
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“ The traditional "stay-at-home" model is financially reckless because the partner is unfunded and highly vulnerable to emergencies.” Actually, it is sort of the opposite. Elizabeth Warren covered this in the two-income trap 20 years ago. Two adult workers in a family means if either worker suffers a loss of income they won’t have enough money to make ends meet (it actually increases the odds of bankruptcy). Having just one worker in a family means that if that worker loses income (partially or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 09:01 AM
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Who on this planet is getting a 5% annual raise!? Americans are so funny. You really do live on a different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:56 AM
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I am small and slim. I prefer women who are small and slim. I don’t see how that is weird in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:53 AM
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This is highly cultural. In the UK a man wearing cologne is considered fairly gauche. It would be a turn off for the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:49 AM
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It’s the education system. Young people are trained to make cute and creative arguments rather than clear, direct, and factual ones. This is especially bad in the humanities, which are dominated by women. It’s a simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:47 AM
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OP, I’ll say this; you’re still VERY young. I know you don’t feel like it, you probably feel pretty grown up, but you’re not. It will only get easier for you from here. Keep working on your career. Work out (it’s good for you, regardless). Build up your charisma (try to meet a lot of new people regularly and learn how to charm a room….its actually not too hard, in my experience, once you get the hang of it). Life is long, and you’re still at the VERY beginning of it. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:32 AM
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He said he has had no success and your advice is “well, just go have some success, bro!”. This ain’t terribly helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:22 AM
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Cobra venom is natural….doesn’t mean I want it in my tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:52 PM
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Nonsense. There are loads of great communicators. I was just working with a new guy this week (Irish) who was brilliant. He could be a bit too blunt for comfort, but he was always very clear, direct, and respectful. The man has never been misunderstood, and it made working with him very esay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:01 PM
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Dude, she's a troll. Don't even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:53 PM
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"Leagues" is purely an admission of reality. No more, and no less. Margot Robbie is NOT going to be attracted to me. Period. It doesn't matter who I am, or what I do. She's a movie star, I'm a middle class guy. Anything other than 'leagues' is pure fantasy nonsense and, yes, indulging in nonsense as an adult is likely going to have serious repercussions for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:29 PM
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This is all semantic BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:35 PM
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I do t think hormones have calories. Hormones cannot break the laws of thermodynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:14 PM
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Women compete intensely for the top 1%, yes. Not for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:16 PM
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Did....you just literally admit to being a racist? That's staggering...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:06 PM
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Pretty sure Israel is the only state that routinely conscripts women so, no, the risk is not evenly spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:05 PM
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That first paragraph is so blindingly obvious, but of course the unhinged PPD women will come out swinging.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:58 AM
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This is not how risk works. If you play hopscotch down range from a bunch of Marines doing live-fire drills you might survive, sure....that doesn't mean there was no risk there. Just think of how insurance works. The risk is real whether the worst happens or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:56 AM
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EVERYONE is a compromise. That's part of being human. Pretending like they aren't is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:10 AM
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The vast majority of women I know were able to regain and retain their weight after pregnancy. Getting fat after pregnancy isn't "hormones" (which have no calories), it is 100% about willpower and giving up. I know one or two women who ballooned after pregnancy and it ALWAYS comes down to their abysmal diet, not their 'hormones'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:06 AM
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No one expects a 60 year old to be ripped....but 9/10 this red herring is raised by fat 30 year old slobs who think that because humans age they are off the hook of having to take care of themselves in the now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:05 AM
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I don’t know why you’re surprised. It’s obvious. My ex is like this. She left me to return to her home country because she didn’t like where we were living (a prosperous market town in the UK). She’s basically been broken ever since. It’s devastating to see, because anyone could have foreseen the outcome a million miles off, but she was/is so mentally ill she couldn’t work it out. I think this is more common among career women than anyone legitimately wants to admit. I’m not a tradcon sort of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:09 AM
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Totally different, and you know it. You're talking about random men hurting other random men....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:29 PM
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There is no “double standard”….men and women are just different. A striker and a goalie are both football players….you don’t measure them by the same metrics, however, because their roles are fundamentally different from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:31 AM
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That’s brave of you. I’ve seen what women do to other women who “step out of line”….its vicious. I’ve never seen a man be so vindictive (although I’ve seen plenty of men throw a friend under the bus if they thought the gain was worth it, but that’s somewhat different).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:24 AM
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This is just the tip of the “men are more logical than women” iceberg. It is empirically proven and yet people refuse to admit it because it sounds sexist. People, men and women, will do and say ANYTHING to maintain that women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:21 AM
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How are they different? Be specific. I was told EXPLICITLY: wallet on the dash, hands on the wheel, no sudden movements, respond to every question with “Yes, sir/ma’am”, and always remember that the cop could kill you at any second. How is that ANY different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:14 PM
-1

The propagation of the species demands male orgasm; female orgasm is completely irrelevant. You can squirm and shout, but nothing is going to change this basic, biological fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:40 PM
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Irrelevant. The comment and their sentiments are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:38 PM
2

I don't finish every time. A lot depends on circumstance. I've pretty much always been this way. Nothing at all to do with ED. Normally it is stopping an early finish, so you wind up kind of going past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:02 PM
0

"Women’s pleasure is a literal afterthought or written off as an optional chore." This is how evolution wrought us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:59 AM
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The war is not left vs right, and never has been….it is top-down. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:29 AM
1

That’s not how liability or culpability works. If you leave your valuables outside, unattended, they’re probably going to get stolen. You absolutely bear partial responsibility for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:43 AM
2

If you need a TLDR then you shouldn’t have written so much. Brevity is the soul of wit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:40 AM
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Every smart American family has this talk with their kids REGARDLESS of race. This idea that only black Americans do is insane. As a mixed Hispanic family we absolutely were told how to behave around police. My white/Indian/black/East Asian friends were all told the exact same things….because our parents weren’t morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:39 AM
2

You cannot stop all crime. Even hinting at the possibility is downright insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:36 AM
1

“ If you're a woman, and you take public transit, and you get assaulted by a man, it's seen as your fault because you "could" have prevented it.” Wait, what? WTF? So, simply being on public transport means you’re going to get assaulted? WTF kind of stupid, America-brained nonsense is that!?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:34 AM
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Meeting anyone for any non-business reason before noon is pure psychopath behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:23 AM
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I’ve had a woman pay substantial sums for dates, weekends away, etc……but she was absolutely loaded. Multi-millionaire (family money, obviously), while I was on a pretty normal salary. I didn’t mind and neither did she. We both understood the dynamics and it was silly of me to object (although I did pay for plenty things as well, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:22 AM
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Not really. There is a low ceiling for male grooming, beyond which is gets creepy. Similarly for dressing: it just does not take long to get ready as a man, even if you are quite well dressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:15 AM
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Yeah. I don’t think I’ve ever dated a woman that was not severely mentally ill. The sane ones just aren’t interested (height).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:13 AM
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Relationship status almost always comes after sex in today's world. The OP is basically complaining that guys lose interest when she shows a strong lack of interest in them.....which is insane (even for a 21 year old).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:26 PM
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No amount of therapy is going to brainwash away the effects of constant rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:14 AM
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You’re mic younger than you think. Just keep living, be good to yourself, and things will settle out in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:14 AM
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Absolutely none of that stuff matters in the initial phase. You cannot friendzone your way into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:06 AM
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Universities provide a lot of funding, as well, and most of these studies have VERY limited budgetary needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:43 AM
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That is fucking insane. Have you thought about the implications for even a fraction of a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:37 AM
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The individual beliefs of researchers matters a little, but is it the broader context in which they work that seriously undermines any hope for serious research. The very structure and culture of research universities makes certain types of research and certain conclusions impossible....you will simply not get hired anywhere. The orthodoxy is protected above ALL other considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:31 AM
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Women create and enforce all gender norms. If women want to change them, they can….at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:46 PM
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Most social science studies have ABYSMAL methodology. Nothing is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:44 PM
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This post made me sad to be human. None of this should be happening. Have some self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:42 PM
1

I mean, nothing is a guarantee, but dancing has the highest success rate of any hobby that I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:49 PM
1

“Trying new things” sounds suspiciously like not sticking with anything long enough to actually get good….
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:42 AM
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Thinking of every single couple I know the ONLY hobby that ever produced any tangible results is dancing. I don’t know any couples that met through any other hobby, ever (genuinely).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:09 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. Anyone that can “start a new hobby” has WAY too much time on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:06 AM
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It’s not the same for women. Almost every man you’ve ever met in your entire life wanted to sleep with you. This makes meeting men “organically” WAY easier for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:03 AM
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Totally disagree on the social circle thing. Having a social circle which regularly introduces new people it a great way to be periodically exposed to new people who might be interested. The numbers are lower, but I’d wager success rate is much higher. The problem is that these sorts of social circles are quite rare for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:00 AM
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“ Many women actually like their boyfriends because "he calls me out on my shit"” You don’t see this as inherently toxic? I’ve dated women like this in the past and always left them. It’s such childish behaviour. If you know you have shit DEAL WITH IT and act like an adult. I don’t think that is too high a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:26 AM
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A woman’s league is who will settle down with her….not who will sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:17 AM
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This post was basically gibberish. I had no idea what it is really arguing, or how it makes any of its conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:16 AM
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You introduced the school question, completely out of the blue (and seemingly as a troll). It's irrelevant. I was talking purely about adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:43 PM
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I have never in my life known a woman to be attracted to a man she looks down on….so logic states the man must be equal or ‘above’ the woman (however she constructs that).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:51 PM
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Because you’ve not thought about what “losing a war” might entail, and you also haven’t thought about all the random jobs people have in the armed forces. Only a small percentage of soldiers ever kill anyone. Most are peeling potatoes, or stacking boxes, or doing mountains of paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:48 PM
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“Too many matches” is user error. Full stop. If the first 5-10 guys are all matches then chat and see how it goes. If it doesn’t go anywhere….on to the next batch! The only way women get hundreds of matches is by treating OLD as a mobile game, rather than as a real exercise in trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:47 PM
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Hierarchy and cooperation are not antonyms. If you try to organise anything at any scale purely on consensus you're just not going to get very far....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:02 PM
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Without hierarchy nothing gets done, because no one really has the authority to make a decision. EVERYTHING becomes a negotiation, which just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:53 AM
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Leader can absolutely be the woman, I’ve seen it work, but this is not very common, and likely never will be. For women to lead they would have to actively select partners who are weaker than they are, which they very rarely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:51 AM
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This is an utterly insane take….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:46 AM
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We really aren’t though. Walking around any major European city I can spot the Americans from a mile away based on their clothes alone. But, yeah, sure….we’re all so individual!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:28 AM
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This is a moronic question. You think that poor people don’t have gradations of wealth? I knew a guy in the Gambia who had just married his third wife at the age of 27. Everyone was dirt poor (this was out in the bush), but he was one of the most successful young guys in the village (he had a formal job that earned him money….most of the other men in the village were farmers). So, he could afford multiple wives (the controversy was whether or not he could really afford all three, or whether he s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:26 AM
2

And if your opponent was genocidal? Do you think the US and UK were wrong to use conscription in WW2?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:15 AM
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That's not reality. Robots, even cheap ones, are too expensive, and NOTHING beats a physical human, on the ground, marking territory gained or lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:30 PM
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I see nothing wrong with fetishes. Like whatever you like, I don't care. It's none of my business.....so long as you don't then cry because you can't find someone that meets your absurd standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:39 PM
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This is a dodge. The US played key and useful roles in the conflicts I mentioned. Do you accept that, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:38 PM
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I'm shifting the conversation to try to avoid rank American chauvinism. Americans say "the draft" or "selective service" because they're universally too stupid to use generic terms like 'conscription'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:37 PM
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Tell that to the Koreans, Kosovar Albanians, or the Kuwaitis…..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:19 PM
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You do realise that not everyone is American, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:14 PM
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Agriculture is probably 15,000 years old….80 years is NOTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:13 PM
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A standing army is not sufficient to meet an existential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:07 PM
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Because you need to “stand out” to get views, which naturally pushes content creators towards extremism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:06 PM
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Was WW2 “worthless”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:05 PM
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History is VERY long. The US will ABSOLUTELY need conscription again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:05 PM
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Without conscription how would a state protect itself from an existential threat? Juno straight to nuclear holocaust?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:02 PM
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That’s not how risk works. At all. Risk exists whether the bad thing happens or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:02 PM
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In the US, yes. In Mauritania I think it was 2013?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:01 PM
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You do realise that half a century is the blink of an eye, right? There are also countries outside the US (shocking, I know), who have much more present security threats (even otherwise safe and developed nations like Finland, who still have national service).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:01 PM
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Nah, this is moronic. Men are better-fit for war in every way, and society can survive the loss of male life far more easily than female life. If hating women mass-conscripted I tot he army worked, people would do it FAR more often than they do (which is virtually never).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:59 PM
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Women-led societies have no real track record of being particularly brutal....I have no idea where you got that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:36 PM
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Quantity and quality in dating options are DIRECTLY correlated. The more options you have the more of them are likely to be solid. Of course, women don’t want “solid”, they want “perfect”, so they complain, regardless of how easy it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:17 AM
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This will never happen, because it goes against fundamental female programming (which is to NEVER tell the truth, except purely by accident).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:08 AM
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Pro-vaccine. Pro-schooling (preferably private).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:32 PM
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Jealousy is not a valid reason (in my eyes).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:05 PM
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They’re literally trying to have sex with you….if that doesn’t make you feel sexy, then nothing will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:54 AM
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Because men frequently get led on by women who vaguely feign interest to gain access to a man’s status and/or resources. If a girl puts out, it dramatically reduces the odds that she’s just using you, and even if she is you at least have something clear and concrete to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:51 AM
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Yeah, of course they should be accommodated. Why shouldn’t they be? I can’t think of any remotely valid reason why people should be needlessly made to suffer by their employer like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:46 AM
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That is an impressive number of racial stereotypes in such a short post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:50 PM
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Birthdays and doctors are both super optional, and most men happily do without (unless they are actually sick, and need care). Bills definitely get paid by men, both on their own and in relationships. The “emotional labour” stuff is all the fluff of life: getting exactly the right flavour of cake for that one neighbour’s co-worker’s friend who visited three years ago and is back in town…..that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:36 PM
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Men literally work (very slightly) more hours per week already, housework included, while also bringing in more money. What more do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:48 PM
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Women: create a bunch of needless busywork for yourself, and then cry about all the busywork you have…. A classic case of some people having WAY too much time on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:29 PM
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I don't get what all these people are talking about. In my experience the woman in a hetro relationship is ALWAYS the one driving for trips and days out and all the rest of it. I don't mind, it can be a good stimulus, but most men are pretty content to stay home, smoke weed, and play video games to relax. I think it is one of the many axes along which women compete with each other. "Oh, MY man took me to 'x' this year....". They use it to gauge how much they are valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:24 AM
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Yeah, the term 'victim blaming' has done so much damage to our society. It implies that people have zero ability or responsibility to even try to protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:16 AM
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No, you just hate men. Let me tell you a universal male experience. Every man I know has had female friends bring around a new guy they’re dating, and realised inside of five minutes that the guy is an asshole. It just radiates off of him. Then, when it inevitably falls to shit, she is totally confused and shocked, because “how could he!?”. If every man can spot obvious red flags in other men in minutes or less (sometimes I can tell a man is an asshole without even speaking to him), then why can…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:15 AM
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These women would never make an argument that wasn’t ultimately self-serving and self-referential, so they couldn’t imagine anyone else not doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:09 AM
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Ignorant and short-sighted misandry…..as usual. In my line of work we are pretty regularly reminded that of a very attractive woman seems interested in you….be very suspicious. There is a non-zero chance that she is a spy. Nations tend to use very attractive women (and occasionally men) to do this kind of work because they can short-circuit our rational brain in a way less-attractive people simply cannot. This short-circuited happens to women every time they get pumped and dumped. So, telling th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:06 AM
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When was this 40 years ago!?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:04 PM
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Not a single one of those look good (maybe to a German….the land where fashion goes to die), and I could t wear any of them in a professional environment without getting laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:54 AM
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To me red pill just means look at what women do, not what they say. Women always told me I’d be great for “someone” (not them). I tried being nice and supportive and that got me nowhere. I worked on my status and started lifting, and stopped simping….and then had loads of success. This is what people say when they mean RP is praxis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:53 AM
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Imagine putting 3 or 4cm soles on loafers or Chelseas……that’s even before the silly insole suggestion (which would literally make the shoe unwearable).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:43 AM
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It is so rich that you are calling anyone a troll.... Do you know how ridiculous 9cm insoles would be? What shoes could a man even wear with those!? You're a woman...you have no idea what it is like to be a short man, particularly in a tall part of the world (I live in Northern Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:18 AM
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Dating 10 years older is barely an “age gap” in most circumstances…you’re just two adults. My last girlfriend was nine years younger and the age difference never occurred to either of us, or to anyone we interacted with (friends, colleagues, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:26 AM
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I’m 5’6”. A 1 inch lift in shoes is not going to go anything for me, especially since platform shoes have become super popular, so women are boosting their height by 4-5 inches everywhere they go these days (which was not the case even just a few years ago). This post is totally ludicrous and disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:21 AM
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A 10% improvement. Great. And what about the improvement seen by the top 10%? The top 1%? I'm sure that's around 10% too, right? Where I live houses are 10-11x median salary. My profession has experienced a 20% drop in real wages in the last 20 years (the entire country has experienced a 10-15% reduction in real wages over the same, post-2008 period). As a middle aged professional I can JUST about afford a ex-council house.....the sort of dwelling that used to be essentially GIVEN to poor people…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:46 PM
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Lost a good bar about a decade ago….but other bars exist. By “not one” I mean not one category. Obviously individual establishments come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:22 PM
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Median income per person is misleading because of the increase of women in the workforce. Look at media male income….it hasn’t budged in the same time period. Also, look at the inflation of essentials, especially housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:56 PM
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You’re asking for changes to our very evolution. That’s not going to happen on any sort of reasonable timeframe. Of men did not pursue, en masse, humanity would die out. EVEN WITH male pursuit Korea and Japan may cease to exist within a century or two (because women refuse to accept local men, who then retreat into strange, screen-based lives as a result, making them even more undateable, and creating a population death spiral).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:58 AM
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So, you basically agree. The third spaces are all still there, people (terminally online, maladjusted weirdos) just refuse to use them, and then they turn around and pretend like these places no longer exist at all, because they can’t be bothered to shower, get dressed, and actually go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:55 AM
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If people choose to sit at home and goon all day that’s their fault…..not society’s. The real problem is economic: everyone is just a lot poorer than they were 50 years ago, so they have less time and money to waste hanging out in public. People also get married way later, so they’re complaining about spending most of their time at home in their 20s and 30s which previous generations ALSO DID…..they just already had a spouse and children by then, so it didn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:52 AM
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Agreed. I hate the fact that some Sociology adjunct somewhere taught these midwits about “third spaces”, and now they’ll go on brining them up, impotently, for the rest of their lives. We have no lost even a SINGLE third space in the past century (in fact, we’ve gained some!). Cafes and bars still exist. So do dancehalls and churches, and (depending on where you live) soda bars, and bowling alleys, and rec leagues and all the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:11 AM
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Which”third spaces” have you lost? I’m willing to bet….zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:08 AM
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So, remind me….what third spaces are you missing? Please be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:07 AM
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Honestly, young, not-fat women are not “above average” in the market of young men. They are the norm. The obesity statistics are thrown off by older people (who are almost universally overweight, as sad as that is).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:51 PM
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On an atomised, individual level yes….its totally fine to have unrealistic standards. In reality, however, tens of millions of people having ludicrous standards fed to them by social media is DISASTROUS for a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:44 PM
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My old car and tiny house would both be considered 'poverty level' in most of the US. My colleagues, when they briefly transferred to the Bay Area, got financial aid for their children to attend school, because they were the poorest family in the neighbourhood. The UK is poorer than Alabama or Mississippi. People just don't realise it because we still have soem old buildings from back when we were actually rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:56 PM
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Do you have nay idea how little top 10% is in the UK? It's not like the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:54 PM
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Half of women SAY they don’t want a baby, but 75-85% of them will wind up having one. Case #12,276 of “watch what women do, not that they say”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:45 AM
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What do you mean by socialism? Regulated capitalism is the single greatest economic model that has ever been developed. Americans might complain about wealth disparity, but this is partially because Americans have enough wealth to actually distribute. In Europe we have less wealth overall (by a huge degree), and therefore less wealth disparity, because there just isn’t very much to go around in the first place). I’m a top 10% earner in the UK, and have to live like a bottom 40% earner in the US.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:44 AM
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You say that “capitalism sucks” but….compared to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:29 AM
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…..huh? What a bizarre comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:28 AM
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Women tend to read interest as desperation, so indifference is the only way, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:18 AM
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I wouldn’t base anything on Rand’s depictions of sexuality. They’re awful (like everything she wrote).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:15 AM
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Why lie to your boyfriend? An adult can accept that they’re not the smartest or “biggest”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:04 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty universal, to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:04 PM
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"But he expected me to do 100% of the domestic labor. I also had to remember all of his important dates. Be able to locate his fucking keys and other belongings" You chose him... "I had to be the one to bring up issues, all of which he would turn into an argument." So you regularly picked fights with him? No wonder he is your ex....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:03 PM
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My niche is my socio-professional circle. Mostly highly mobile, well-educated, multi-lingual, cosmopolitan types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:03 PM
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Logic. No woman on Earth is going to be won over by “love bombing” from an ugly dude. If it worked, then “simps” and orbiters would not exist….they’d all win the girls they’re chasing. We know that this does not happen. So, since she’s lying about how attractive the man is you have to stay deducing logical reasons why that might be. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:04 AM
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Waiting for weeks or months? Because she has a flight to catch? C’mon….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:02 AM
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Yes, I think people (bored academics) came up with a term for something that does not exist. I do not explain the phenomenon….because I don’t think it exists. Manipulation exists, but the vast majority of “love bombing” claims I’ve seen or heard of are not manipulative….they’re just alive that fizzles out for whatever reason. Sadly, people today have this sick need to label EVERYTHING, which unlikely only confuses them further, rather than adding any clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:19 AM
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Mental illness is probably a subtle reaction to overpopulation. The human population was fairly stable until about 300 years ago. People died early and often, making depression a ludicrous response when everyone was miserable. Now that people are far less likely to die in a mining accident or whatever lives longer on and we had to fill these lives up with meaning….which previous generations didn’t have to worry about as much. It’s just a totally different paradigm, exacerbated by communications …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:11 AM
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When she says “the men don’t have to be attractive” she’s lying and coping. She either means: she would be embarrassed to have fallen for the guy in front of her friends (usually because he isn’t tall enough); or she REALLY liked him and needs irrationally to take him down a peg to make herself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:05 AM
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Love bombing doesn’t exist.just another made-up neologism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:03 AM
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A woman’s “emotional labour” is just inventing expectations for herself and then congratulating herself for meeting them. No more, no less. “I did all the mental load/emotional labour or decorating the house and making sure everything wa perfect for Christmas!” Great. A man would be equally happy if none of this happened, so it is not added value, nor is it necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:48 AM
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Because if she treats you worse up front, the likelihood of her treating you worse down the line skyrockets. This doesn’t just mean psychological pain, but a strong likelihood of being absolutely devastated financially when Chad does come knocking five years into your marriage. If a girl isn’t crazy about you, chances are she’ leaving and taking half your stuff at the nearest opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:22 AM
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So, making dating more autistic? No thanks. People just need to be mature (which they largely aren’t), and brave a little discomfort to do the other person right if they lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:15 AM
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50% success rate for a guy built as you describe seems marginally low… Honestly, it sounds like these women are putting in minimal effort, and I wouldn’t be thrilled either. If she NEVER texts first that’s a terrible sign, in my view. Age is no excuse. I dated a 32 year old last year and she was full on crazy about me (well, crazy in general, frankly, but there we are).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:11 AM
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It’s like demanding that women, on average, make the same amount of money as men on average, and refusing to date men who aren’t wealthier than they are. Both demands are totally reasonable (in my view), but they also create an inherent contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:02 AM
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Women DO NOT hate violent men. At all. They (might!) hate it if a man is violent TO THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:50 PM
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I think if you lead a team of community organizers then, yeah, within that milieu of course that builds status. A good leader necessarily has status over the people they happen to lead. That's how leadership works. You're not competing against 'all of society'....just people within your niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:42 PM
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In almost any way imaginable. Best player in the local rec league, person with the most political influence or highest-profile job, lead community organizer, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:26 AM
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Bollocks. Men are happy to court, but only if there is a reasonable chance of success. Without that incentive, why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:46 AM
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All men compete, all the time. It’s the nature of human sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:40 AM
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Birth control RARELY fails….people fail. With even basic competence condoms have a near-100% success rate. Same with hormonal birth control (especially UIDs that are basically foolproof).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:31 AM
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Exactly. This is a an easily solvable problem….
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:29 AM
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When in doubt, a woman will always choose POWER. Both the thug and the doctor have power, just different kinds (physical vs financial). There is no contradiction here, despite how hard you tried to manufacture one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:25 AM
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Don’t be obtuse, we all know status: it is about power, connections, and hierarchy. If you’ve never experienced this outside of school that’s your problem, it doesn’t refute the basic concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:23 AM
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“ I disagree tho. I don’t think the status you’ve just described attracts anyone.” You’re just wrong. I don’t know what else to say. Have you ever been in a band? Have you ever been a leader in any way? If you had you’d know that it attracts women like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:18 AM
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This is because you don’t understand status. A well-known author, a locally popular performer (comedian, musician, etc.), the captain of the HS football team…..none of these people necessarily have any money but, for their milieu, they have HUGE amounts of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:16 AM
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Stations easy: your ranking on the hierarchy (whatever hierarchy you happen to be a part of). The team leader has more status than a rank and file member. The person who is more famous or has better contacts has more status than someone who is less famous and has poorer contacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:14 AM
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Oh, c’mon. This is why Democrats have zero credibility. The tape was found, sat on, and then dumped right before the election in a gross smear campaign that only morons fell for. Crude jokes, made in private, should not have ANY bearing on an election. There are countless GOOD reasons to oppose Trump…..this is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:44 PM
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Honestly, I don’t see how anyone votes for Democrats OR Republicans. I find both parties so utterly loathsome (the Dems for their hypocrisy, and the GOP for their ideology).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:43 PM
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Get this AI slop out of here…..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:41 PM
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Be honest about your level. We get told this all the time in government circles: if she’s a 10, and you’re a 4….why is she interested? Women need to internalise this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:25 PM
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The gender war is real, you just don't hear about it from men because the social consequences are severe. You hear about gender wars from woman A LOT....it is the dominant culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:44 PM
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Women here always say this, and it is technically true, but under the surface they tend to mean "any relationship that is not 100% perfect is a 'bad relationship'".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:20 PM
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Brevity is the soul of wit…..something the OP hasn’t quite figured out yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:01 AM
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The problem is that most social scientific “research” relies on really dubious methodology. I don’t see how people can take surveys and polls and serious, reliable data points. It’s all so terribly unserious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:56 AM
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“ Generations of forced servitude in my lineage.” Yeah, of course, this is true for EVERYONE, except maybe the oldest royal families. Welcome to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:47 AM
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95% of anything women say is posturing (the percent is very high for men, as well, but is somewhat lower). Women do not ACTUALLY want to be alone, they just don’t want anyone (even themselves) to know that they’re lonely and need companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:41 AM
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Sec is like any other biological imperative (food, water, sleep): when you have it, it’s no big deal. When you don’t have it for long enough it becomes all you can think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:23 PM
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Blue Pill is ex post facto rationalisation, writ large.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:31 PM
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Because no one else can tolerate пʼяна вишня…..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:49 AM
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“… have a tendency towards a specific brand of let's say misogynistic expectations” The only specific brand of anything Slavic men have a tendency towards is Adidas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:47 AM
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Yeah, if you’re a man over 25 I would NOT go back to Ukraine. The risk is not worth the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:46 AM
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21 year old. Both sound like they’ve got major mental issues, and I’d wager that a female 30 year old virgin probably had more/worse mental issues than a 21 year old village bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:41 AM
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So, basically women are incapable of objectivity? Sounds about right….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:35 AM
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“ Very few people read as attractive to me.” 80/20 strikes again (more like 95/5).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:22 AM
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What!? This is honestly insane. Romans were all about monogamy and virtue (esp under Augustus). Don’t confuse the acts of a few depraved elites with a standard by which most people lived. It’d be like saying most people in the 2010s had their own private paedo islands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:33 PM
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The keeping of livestock….?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:29 PM
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For most of history there was little to no money, period, and certainly no “higher education”…. History is REALLY long….not just the past 150 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:28 PM
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What sort of “economic opportunities” do you think 95% of humans who have ever lived had?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:27 PM
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OF COURSE freakish percentage of the women here are “poly”. God, that tracks too well, doesn’t it….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:23 PM
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Female-owned harems have been EXCEEDINGLY rare in history, and where they exist (Queen Nzinga) it is usually more about copying male behaviour in a bid for legitimacy…..not any actual desire for many male lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:20 PM
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Most people that have lived were either literal slaves or living in a situation that hardly distinguishable from bondage. Economic freedom!? NO ONE had that, except for the VERY wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:17 PM
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What does "choice" mean? How could a man verify the independence of a prostitute ("escort" is a disgusting euphemism).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:57 PM
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If you have to do it to survive, it's not consensual.....and that is outside of human trafficking which has always, and will always, make up the VAST majority of the sex trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:53 PM
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So you accept that it is harder....that being short is a pure handicap with no upside. Then what is the point of your argument? It's more "bootstraps" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:53 PM
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I don’t see how anyone can see prostitution as anything other than rape. The very thought of it is utterly disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:41 PM
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Short men have fewer, and lower quality, relationships. That’s not “mindset” it’s just reality, that has been plotted out by a range of social scientists who’ve researched the matter. Coming back with “you can do anything, bro!” is so ludicrously out of touch. (I say this as a short guy who has done far better than I had any right to)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:39 PM
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Those standards are pretty easy to meet for almost any educated professional. These are really basic “middle class” expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:34 PM
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What percentage of female posters here are trolls? It looks like AT LEAST 85%, and probably more. Don’t feed the trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:30 PM
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This is not true for any male friend group I’ve been involved in. As soon as women leave and it’s men only the conversation tends to turn really nerdy, really fast. Science fiction, military history, video games, sports, etc. Basically, we talk about all the things that interest us, but that give women the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:36 AM
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Between £100k and £125k your effective tax rate in the UK is 60%. NO ONE is taxes 60% in the US, anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:24 PM
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Don’t bother, she’s just a troll….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:22 PM
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“Alien” is the correct and traditional term for foreign residents. “Alien” literally just means “foreign”. Your confluence with “space alien” is a personal problem, not a sign of any sort of nefarious plot against immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:21 PM
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Yep. Americans are paid more AND taxed less. I am happy with my life in Britain, but I would be MUCH better off, materially, in the US. I'm in the top 10% of UK earners and, trust me, it does NOT feel like it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:22 PM
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Um…..I’m British. Our kids are not shot in schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:45 PM
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Meaning UBI creates a scenario where it becomes very easy to be trapped in the underclass, and people outside of it will protect their interests all the more fiercely. You cannot eliminate "classism" or nepotism. You cannot change human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:24 AM
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The dollar is still do really well, and Americans have an INSANE quality of life that isn’t matched anywhere else. If Britain were to join the US we’d be the 51st state in terms of our income per capita. Americans don’t realise just how insanely wealthy they are, even just compared to other developed states.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:54 AM
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UBI enshrines the underclass, it doesn’t protect from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:52 AM
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Fewer people….not “less”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:49 AM
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It would be great if all “sexpat” destinations vanished (tomorrow, ideally), but I don’t see it happening. There will always be a massive gap between the richest nations and the poorest. That gap WILL be exploited by lonely, middle-aged people with dubious morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:48 AM
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Fortunately in Europe qualifying exams are not a thing, you’re right (if only by accident). You jump straight to the thesis. It’s why in Britain you can walk out the door with your PhD at 25 or 26 and actually get on with your life. Anyway, I say that PhDs are about endurance rather than intelligence because it is ultimately a grind. They take ‘X’ amount of work (a lot) and the only way I’ve seen ANYONE fail a doctorate is if they drop out. Sure, you need some base level of intelligence to get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:46 AM
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I don’t think a smartwatch impacts “more formal” attire in the slightest. Too many people treat “more formal” clothes as a costume, rather than as clothing. Once you accept all clothes as just “clothes” you’ll look and feel a lot better. If you can’t do that, then the suit will always be wearing you, rather than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:04 AM
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A woman paying for a date means she probably doesn’t want to see you again…..it’s a protest, not an act of submission or enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:00 AM
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Physical violence tends to inversely teack with intelligence (which also tends to track with class), not with being more (or less) “traditional”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:55 AM
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They also love to historically demonise the past (in fact, this is far more common than romanticisation).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:52 AM
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Because that’s not how systems of laws develop. Things take time to take shape. In Britain most men and most women got the vote at more or less the same time. People forget just how late and ad hoc basic rights were rolled out and expanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:36 AM
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"Women are the ones that seem to be ok being single" They're lying. Don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:10 PM
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Most people were rural, and lived basically lawless lives. People that were not nominally free were likely to be enslaved. Everyone was desperately poor. If you're desperately poor or enslaved NO ONE cares who you're fucking. There are way bigger problems to manage. The people who weren't free to love whom they wanted were the upper classes...people who actually had something to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:27 PM
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I don't understand watches at all. What's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:43 AM
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"I tend to believe that the main advantage of a patriarchal monogamous system was the reduction of in- group violence due to an decreased need for mating competition." I.E. Monogamous societies work together, while polygynous societies compete with themselves. If polygyny worked then the most successful states would be polygynous. But they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:29 AM
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History presents us with exactly TWO options: nation states, and empires. Which would you rather have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:41 AM
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Do you understand the meaning of "Let's say..."? He is raising a hypothetical. I swear people here are WAY below average IQ....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:40 AM
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It’s not the major that matters, it’s the quality of the institution. Getting a degree from an unranked local university puts someone in the “educated” box, technically, but let’s not pretend that it is anything like attending an elite university.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:54 AM
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This is so disingenuous. Rural men are compared to the other men in their community, not to men working in high finance who don’t even know this po-dunk town even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:51 AM
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Why are Americans so self-obsessed? They always jump strait to Trump and “current thing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:46 AM
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Reading comprehension! He is raising a theoretical, not describing his actual situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:40 AM
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Men are not the selectors. 90% of men have VERY limited options and kind of have to take whatever is on offer. This is not true for most women. That’s why there are different standards in judging their mate choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:33 AM
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“ People choosing their own spouse is fairly new.” “Spouse” is doing A LOT of heavy lifting here. People have overwhelmingly chosen who they had sex with across the last few hundred thousand years. Marriage is a social convention, not a biological aspect of our species. People had WAY more freedom in the past than people today want to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:30 AM
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Women are the ones who shifted their standards. You can’t very well turn around and blame men when women are fatter and less agreeable than ever before, while also having higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:23 AM
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Monogamous societies have outcompeted polygynous societies time and time again. The data is in: monogamy, while not always as ‘fun’, is a superior system. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:21 AM
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If women were more selective for stability and commitment, I would agree entirely...but they're not. They're selective for height, criminality, and money....only one of which has any bearing on raising a child safely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:37 PM
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The 'shy' woman is a myth. If a woman wants you she will make it exceedingly clear. ANYTHING else, is a 'no'. I have never once in my life seen a 'shy girl' go from 'maybe' to 'yes' with myself or any of my friends. Not even once. It doesn't happen (or, if it does, it does so rarely as to be ignorable).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:03 PM
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I don’t have time to go into the level of granularity you’re looking for, I’m sorry. The point is that these neologisms are NOT describing actual behaviour. Anyway, this is what I see in Britain (and what I hear from the US and Canada).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:05 AM
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You don’t, but you can measure a woman’s actions against other women and make reasonable assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:00 AM
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This might vaguely indicate interest in the earliest, pre-date stage….but absolutely nothing more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:59 AM
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Men have fantasised about women for MILLENNIA before pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:58 AM
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Applying a word to something pathologises and reifies it. It turns nothing into something, and often creates problems that otherwise would not exist. The recent identity obsession is really just a reflection of the way that identity has been used to win, and protect, privilege in recent decades. It is not a reflection of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:26 AM
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Yep, pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:21 AM
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This is a ludicrous take. Some women strong men along for material benefit. Men do not want this to happen to them, so look for sexual interest early on. A woman who shows you less sexual interest than she has shown other men in the past make it statistically MUCH more likely that she just wants you for your status/money/whatever. It is pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:17 AM
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First off, PhDs are measures of endurance, not intelligence. Secondly, the only thing a woman can do to truly show interest is to be physical. Absolutely nothing else works in quite the same way. Doesn’t means she has to have sex on the first date, but if there is not at least making out, then a man’s suspicion and doubt is going to be raised. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:13 AM
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Nonsense. Most people are easily replaceable….we’re a species of 8 billion members. Very, very few of us are particularly “special”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:08 AM
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OK, so you’ve only known life in an totally internet-ruined reality. You’re a child who will never know what reality actually looks like. For the rest of us “demisexual” or “asexual” or “sapiosexual” are all nonsense. Their neologisms created by people who are simultaneously too online and too obsess with sex (ironically).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:05 AM
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This is nonsense. We’re talking biology, not culture or the actions of any one man. A man will produce millions of spring his life….the woman thousands of eggs. That alone dictates the massive disparity in sexual interest and who gets most of the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:01 AM
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This is all made-up nonsense, from start to finish. No one would have used ANY of these terms 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:53 AM
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If not “normal” there is absolutely “normative”….peopel are vastly more similar than they are distinct, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:51 AM
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Did you call yourself “demisexual” 20 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:49 AM
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“ What you’re describing, the level of comfort before you’d consider physical intimacy with someone, is exactly what red pill misunderstands about female sexuality” I have never in my life slept with a woman who “made me wait”. It either happened very promptly (within a couple dates, at the latest), or not at all…..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:43 AM
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“ The pornbrained jump straight to fantasizing about her.” It has nothing to do with “pornbrain”….it’s just part of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:41 AM
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Can’t speak for other men, but the planning and communication games women make men play are absolutely exhausting. If I go out with someone, we have a good time, and agree to another date a few days later I want to get that booked right away, so that I have clarity about my schedule for the week and can plan around it. If I texted right away to set something up, though, I’m “needy” and “desperate” (because god forbid a man just be, you know, ORGANISED). ‘Red flag’ discourse has made dating into …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:32 AM
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The inverse is also often try: the more openly left wing a woman is the more traditional her tastes in men. It is honestly bizarre, but nearly always true, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:16 AM
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Yeah, but legal drag is a massive issue. Don’t forget that laws sit on the books for decades (sometimes centuries) after their utility, because people have to go out of their way to get rid of them. It doesn’t necessarily signify anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:02 AM
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I think it is a huge mistake to assume you know what happens behind closed doors. I have no idea how my grandparent’s generation had sex, and frankly, I’d rather not know. I do know that ribald jokes and drawings are ANCIENT, and that we have written references to oral and anal sex going back thousands of years so…..I’m going to go ahead and assume sex has not changed all that much. Any suggestion that it has is just presentism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:58 AM
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Mass gym culture is VERY new. It is part of what made Pumping Iron so fascinating when it came out. I’d bet that fewer than 5% of people regularly worked out in 1960. Basically everyone was either skinny, or skinny-fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:35 AM
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This is the most insane, circular logic I’ve ever heard….
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:28 AM
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You’re not supposed to feel “attraction”….just interest. The first date usually feels very neutral, in my experience. You really are just getting to know each other. If it goes well then the second date is normally the real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:56 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Why over-complicate things. As long as you don’t overstay your welcome, you’re good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:48 AM
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Have you ever emigrated? I have. I know how hard, stressful, degrading, and expensive it is. It gives me precious little regard for people who illegally try to circumvent the whole process.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:41 AM
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Look at the hottest men of the 1960s. Not a single one of them had ever seen the inside of a gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:13 PM
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BRILLIANT response.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:12 PM
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My ancestors never had to pass a height filter before they were allowed to even speak to a woman. I do. Dating is definitely harder now, and every single statistic you care to mention backs this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:11 PM
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It was probably made by one of the mods on an alt account…..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:54 PM
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" I don't give a shit about undocumented immigrants unless they commit crimes." Soooo.....open borders. Got it. Completely and utterly insane. "Now that most detainees are immigrants with no criminal record, I don't know why I would celebrate that." "Celebrate" is not the word I would chose. If you want a lawful country then you must have law enforcement. It is not legal to enter a country without permission. If you try to sneak in anyway and get caught you can expect to be removed. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:03 PM
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…..you still haven’t named a single third space that you’ve lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:06 PM
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People were way more mad at “all lives matter”, and the percent of people wrongfully detained by ICE has been minuscule. Last I checked recent ICE raids have yielded tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. In this process fewer than 200 American citizens have been detained (and as far as I can tell, most of them due to blatant non-compliance). Having a better than 99.9% success rate is pretty impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:34 AM
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Honestly, the IQ here feels decidedly below-average….in general. People struggle to string together decent sentences or clear concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:06 AM
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“ We were the generation that saw the death of social third spaces ” Oh, ffs. Why do effete, middle-class Americans always go on about “third spaces”!? Name ONE “third space” that you lost. Just one! You can’t, because every single third space your grandparents had is STILL THERE (and you probably have WAY MORE third spaces than your great-grandparents had). Just because some adjunct sociology lecturer taught you this cool phrase doesn’t mean it reflects reality, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:01 AM
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Statistically speaking risk-taking is substantially down across younger people. They drink, date, smoke, have sex, and take drugs WAY less than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:55 AM
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For the millionth time, “third spaces” HAVE NOT DISAPPEARED. You just stopped going. That’s on you. There is not a single third space your grandparents had that you don’t. Literally, not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:27 PM
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First off, I flat out do not believe your made up statistic. Total nonsense. Secondly, the speed with which I get a girl off has NOTHING to do with me. It has everything to do with her. Some are super easy, others take way more time (esp if they're on SSRIs). Nothing I do has any say in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:58 PM
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I had never really thought about it....but will AI save dating? Women overwhelmingly fill roles that AI is simply better at (HR, compliance, and all manner of other pointless bureaucracies). AI taking these job just might give women a reality check and make them realise that an 'average', employed man is actually a damn good bet to secure your future. Of course, for the men who also lose their jobs AI is going to be an absolute disaster. Fortunately (?) we likely have a few very large wars comin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:07 PM
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Again, that is utterly historically ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:40 AM
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People say this all the time without actually engaging their brains or learning even a single thing about the past. The majority of people who lived before 100–150 years ago were slaves or one kind or another. They were helots. No one was marrying off their slaves for “property”. Whomever they married or had sex with was their own business, and no one else’s. Go back and actually read even recent literature. Do you think the muzhiks of Tolstoy were being married off to each other? The eastern wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:22 AM
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People dramatically overstate the “skill” of sex. It is extremely straightforward. The real differentiator is desire and enthusiasm. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:12 AM
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“ Women were often married off, without their consent, for a large majority of human history.” Elite women, yes. Most women were not elite and had substantial mate choice (even elite women could generally refuse a partnership if she didn’t want it).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:58 AM
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The more left wing a girl is the more of a height queen she is....EVERY TIME (in my experience).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 08:07 PM
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I have never in my life met anyone who has listened to Andrew Tate....not even ironically. He is a totally made up phenomenon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 07:48 PM
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So the answer is "no". You don't know what it means. "Third worlds" means "neither Soviet nor Western Democracy". Since the end of the Cold War it is a meaningless term, since there is no "second world" anymore (the USSR, although Putin is trying hard to revive it) there is no "third world". "Third world" has NOTHING to do with the relative wealth of a country. South Korea would technically be a "third world" country (and was).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:56 PM
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If patriarchy was "strong, but self-destructive" it would not be "strong" and humanity would've died out thousands of years ago. "Patriarchy" works. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:54 PM
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......you have no idea what "third world" means, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:23 PM
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"Men here are happy to admit that they will take sex when they don’t like the woman" AKA she's not on his level....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:22 PM
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"Where is the evidence that a matriarchy was tried long-term before it was taken over by men and turned into a patriarchy?" Doesn't this inherently prove the inferiority of matriarchy? If you cannot defend your power and position then you've failed. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:22 PM
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Not unique, but OVERWHELMINGLY REPRESENTED. Same thing....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:27 AM
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Strictly speaking, yes. In reality, though, women (individually or collectively) do not fare well in the realm of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:15 AM
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Matriarchies have existed at various times and places in the past. Not a single one, anywhere, managed to develop their society past living in mud huts. We tried matriarchy; it failed. There is no point in running the trial again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:59 AM
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You do realise that there are no “third world” countries anymore, right? There haven’t been for over 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:57 AM
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“We still need to continue to preach feminism until it reaches the most disadvantaged women in the world.” So….colonialism? Great. You know we tried that already, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:57 AM
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You cannot have wealthy without poverty, sadly. When delusional people say they want to solve poverty what they really mean is they want to more aggressively outsource it. No complex society on Earth has ever existed without a large, exploited class (workers, slaves, etc). It is not possible to create value without unfairly compensating workers. The math just doesn’t math.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:56 AM
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Only the top tier men do this. Every single dating problem women have, EVERY one, could be solved overnight if they stopped Chad-chasing. “Pump and dump” purely means that the woman wasn’t on the man’s level. Period. Every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:54 AM
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Women have unlimited power to shape society and gender relations. We live in the culture that women build, everyday, by choosing who to sleep with, marry, and have children with. If your husband expects you to do the bulk of the childcare, well, YOU CHOSE HIM. You could have chosen someone else, but I guess he wasn’t six feet tall, so you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:52 AM
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“women are free because we're allowing them” This is a factual statement, though. We cannot take our current freedoms and mores as inviolable or permanent. They’re just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:50 AM
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Every single thing you mention is a result of Islam, not poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:45 AM
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Less safe, sure. Poorer countries tend to be less safe for EVERYONE, but “considerably more restrictions”? That’s just not true. It is HIGHLY dependant on which country you’re talking about. Women are as free in Latin America as anywhere else. Also true for most non-Islamic parts of Sub-Saharan Africa and Southeast Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:45 AM
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Yeah, I’m willing to bet the OP is just really attractive, so can get away with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:11 AM
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This is mostly because women have absolutely fucked up psychologies. NO ONE should get off on being told to leave. It’s pathological. …..and then women try to say they like bad boys in spite of their behaviour. As if!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:07 AM
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The OP is clearly writing in a second language. Cut them some slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:10 AM
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This is needless semantics. The fact is that women NEED to look up to their man, and so their man has to treat them with a level of either disinterest (VERY slightly, basically signalling a willingness to walk away) or be slightly patronising. I hate it, but it is fundamentally what women demand and reward. I wish they didn’t, but I don’t get to control that. All I can control is how I respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:47 PM
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This is such an Anglo-centric view of the past. The story doesn’t work for MOST of the world, which did no grant universal suffrage in response to activism. Pretty much exclusively the US, UK, and Switzerland did. Lots of states simply had it forced on them after 1945, or as part of communist or socialist revolutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:36 PM
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I would disagree….I think being used is the norm, not an aberration. A woman has one boyfriend, and multiple orbiters. The maths point to “using” being far more common than anyone wants to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:19 PM
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“ For example, a queer-friendly nightlife scene in a major city that doesnt consist only of gay bars” This is kind of a problem, though. My friends complain bitterly that there are only two lesbian bars in Paris (on the same street, of course). They don’t want to go to a “queer-friendly” bar when they go out. They’re lesbians, and they want to go to a LESBIAN bar. The amalgamation of queer spaces works for some smaller queer communities, but is not necessarily a good thing for larger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:16 PM
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Yea, sure, why not? In my personal/professional circle it’s pretty common for a husband and wife to have different last names.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:11 PM
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"good conversation, fun flirting and turning me on during conversation" i.e. dance like a monkey and entertain you. You don't think that's kind of gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:23 PM
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80/20 strikes again.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:22 PM
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I couldn't disagree more. There is no 'real you'. Every single one of us could be a saint or the commandant of a concentration camp. We all contain endless multitudes.....it just depends on what life throws at us and how we choose to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:09 PM
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"And sacrifice your youth for the "grind"? To what purpose?" So that you don't have to live your middle and older age in misery. Youth is ABSOLUTLEY the time to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:04 PM
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"But according to men here, that means she isn’t attracted, which I don’t agree with at all." In my 40 years of life I have NEVER had sex with a woman who 'made me wait' first. Either it happened very early on, or it happened never. No middle ground. This is the reality for almost all men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:18 PM
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The more options you have the more likely you are to make a bad choice. It’s like the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade….most women choose the gaudy chalice to drink from before even considering the simple cup of a carpenter’s son.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:42 AM
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I don’t think therapy works do almost anyone. It might have marginal benefit in extreme cases (veterans with PTSD), but otherwise I have NEVER seen someone get better with therapy. Literally, never even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:40 AM
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Most of the other men that didn’t reproduce were slaves, soldiers, or slave soldiers. Given the trajectory the world is on a lot more young men are going to die in wars compared to the last 50 years, so…..there’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:32 AM
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So, self-brainwashing? No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:29 AM
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Yeah, I’d say much the same. Would I love to loaf around in PJs, smoke weed, and game all day? ABSOLUTELY. But, society doesn’t work like that, so I gotta dress nice, work hard, and all that other nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:48 PM
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….how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:47 PM
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Not everyone likes to go out and party all the time just hoping someone likes them back and wants casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:47 PM
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"If she wasn’t famous and I saw her on the street she wouldn’t even get a second look from me." I flat out refuse to believe this. You can say it, and believe it, because you're comparing her to other stars, but in reality almost all famous, attractive actresses look unreal in the flesh. I saw Emma Watson in public randomly a few months ago. At first I didn't twig who it was, it was just "wow, that is a REALLY beautiful woman". I've never really rated her in the abstract, but in person she was s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:25 PM
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NO man actively prefers a "bitch". Sometimes that's just what you happen to get. Also, I don't see how "you should be nice to your partner" is either "incel" or "revenge fantasy". Do you know how words work?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:06 PM
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Notice how they all emphasised PEACEFUL. This is the absolute, number one trait a woman can have….way more important than looks. For some reason, just not being crazy is a bar very few women can meet. Do that, be nice and helpful, and you’ll find a man who’s crazy about you. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:26 AM
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Fuck this. I’m short. I’m not giving up. Why would I? What would I gain? I have to work 10x harder than a tall guy, but so what? My ancestors crossed the southern US border barefoot. They fought in wars. They faced real-deal, old school racism, and deep poverty. I’m short. Tough shit. Can’t complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:20 PM
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Denmark has a birth rate of 1.50. That means that in a single generation Denmark will lose ONE THIRD of its population. Yes, we need marriages and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:29 AM
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OP is technically correct, but ignores that some women use this as a smokescreen for continued bad decision making, sometimes deep into their 30s. Most of us have to learn life lessons the hard way. That’s not an excuse for making the same mistakes again, and again, and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:26 AM
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This is bizarre. 30s were by far the best decade for me. Maybe this is more of an American or provincial perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:55 PM
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PPD isn’t PPD anymore (if it ever was). It’s basically just a safe subreddit for women to come and rant at men, free from consequences. Empathy is the LAST thing you’ll find here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:49 AM
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The choices are not “bad”, you’re just overly picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:48 AM
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“ What use is it to tell yourself that you have no inherent value, that you are a worthless piece of shit UNLESS” This has enormous value (above and beyond being simply true). Realising that, as a man, no one is coming to the rescue and you will have to do everything yourself can be the catalyst you need to get off your butt and start working harder/going to the gym/finishing school, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:35 AM
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“ it weeds out the guys looking only for sex pretty quickly” You sound really young, so I’ll try to be nice: this did not work how you think it’s working. It just means the man will put you in the back burner and let the clock run out, while sleeping with other girls in the meantime. If you want a man to commit to you you need to date a man at, or below, your level. It’s as simple as that. You need to be a guy’s best option, otherwise why would he stick around? It’s that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:29 AM
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FOR THE HORDE!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:18 AM
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God, this reminds me. Years ago I had a first date with a woman in Central London. Just a casual, walk around/art gallery/coffee date to get to know each other. This was in the early days of OLD (pre-Tinder), so we were both new to the process. She started at one point saying she nearly didn’t show up, because what if I tried to kill her…. I was super taken aback. I mean, we were right in the heart of a major city. In public. During the day. WTF did she think was gonna happen!? Same as when one …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:17 AM
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Yes, ALL women shit test, some are just more subtle than others. I have never in my life been with, or heard of, a woman who NEVER tested their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:11 AM
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“How's the relationship with your friends? What are your thoughts on a woman's right to choose? Those are honestly straightforward and great for all parties. I can ask "How do you feel about fitness? Are you in therapy? Do you think that some rules apply only to men? Only to women?“ These are absolutely insane questions to ask someone, particularly on a first date. The implications are vile and would turn me off instantly (they have strong “guilty until proven innocent” vibes).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:09 AM
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I love how virtue-signalling lefties are always the most overtly racist people online. You assume the subjects are white and straight (says a lot about you), and you assume POC and LGBT people are to be found at special “cultural events” (like a damned travelling circus of diversity) rather than, I dunno, EVERYWHERE?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:05 AM
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On a first date you should really be asking interview-style questions at all. Just ask about the other person. Be interested in them. Tell stories about your past. You know….BE A NORMAL HUMAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:03 AM
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Confidence that exclusively comes from within is delusion….not confidence. I’m a decent guitar player. I’m confident because I have played with, and for, others and have had positive, undeniable feedback. I could be ‘confident’ that this experience means I would be a great conductor of a full symphonic orchestra…..something I’ve never done before and have no relevant training, knowledge, of expertise in…..but that would be utterly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:51 AM
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That’s a weird comparison….I don’t think it works. BP men are more like born-wealthy conservatives. OF COURSE they’re happy with lies, fantasy, and the status quo….it’s worked out quite nicely for them, with absolutely zero effort!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:49 AM
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Modern parenting is still “easy” (as in basically anyone can do it with not training or experience), but it has become more time consuming. Recently I was watching the NFL with a friend and he had to go pick up his daughter from a school event. She’s 12 (iirc) and the school is maybe 300 metres away. For the last few hundred thousand years a a child of 12 just 300m away from How would be considered more than capable of getting herself home safely. Not anymore. It’s collective madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:42 AM
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“Properly” is a huge shifting goalpost. Parents (particularly American parents) have wildly over complicated parenting BY CHOICE. Leaving a kid to play with dirt and sticks in the back yard would be more than enough for most children throughout most of human history. Only in recent decades have well-to-do families suddenly required their children to be constantly “enriched”, and have their schedule filled to bursting with pointless activities. I grew up in the 90s and parenting was mostly tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:39 AM
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The return of prudishness is a left-wing phenomenon…not a right wing one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:27 AM
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Millennial here, our experience mirrors Gen Z pretty closely (although we were better adjusted, having at least had analog childhoods).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:50 PM
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“Don't romanticize our grandparents/great-grandparents. Yeah, they got married immediately, but they fought all the time and resented each other.” I do t understand this constant revisionism that says EVERY married couple in the 20th century hated each other and were miserable. I’ve spent A LOT of time along older people (70 and up) and, on average, they seem way happier with their relationships than younger people. People just had lower standards in the past, across the board, and were easier t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:27 AM
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The guys that do well are mostly tall. They do not have actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:06 AM
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They’ve had crazy inflation. So, the numbers all look really big, but the money just doesn’t go as far anymore (and Americans still wildly overspend on cars).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:02 AM
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Fair enough. I strongly disagree, and think that the implications of “abortion is murder” go WAY farther than anyone really wants to admit, but there we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:40 PM
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Totally disagree (also, Americans and their “state lines”….you guys really gotta get out more). Abortion is a modern medical miracle and should be cheaply and easily available for any woman that wants one, up until the start of the third trimester (at least, in my view, obvs).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:19 PM
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This is also a hyper-localised, US-only problem. EVEN THEN American women in states with abortion bans can just drive or fly to a state that does not have those bans. If they can't afford a short drive or a cheap flight then they have WAY bigger issues on their hands and should have been MUCH more careful with sex (accepting that genuine accidents do happen....but they're pretty rare. Condom breakage is NOT common).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:06 PM
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"I can't get medical emergency reproductive care to save my life." ....why is that? You have internet, you must be able to get medical care as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:53 PM
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Every time I felt 'insecure' in a relationship it was for good reason, and that relationship usually ended shortly thereafter. As long as you're not overreacting, you can usually trust your gut. "Should I mask when I’m around them and cry myself asleep?" Yes, you should do exactly this, if you're being irrational. You MUST be logical if you're going to present a problem to a man. "I feel this way, even though it is unjustified, help!" is not going to get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:11 PM
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I guess things wouldn’t change dramatically for me. Maybe less casual sex, but pull out exists and works fine, as long as you have even a modicum of self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:16 PM
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Do you want a source that says the sun rises every morning? National birth rates are general knowledge. How is this disingenuous nonsense allowed!?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:56 PM
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