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DiscussionDankutoo/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:00 PM
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Whose fault is it for prioritising messages from advertisments over your own, actual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:09 AM
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The OP is hopeless. Of course women will publicly claim to have loads of empathy when asked in public. Their actions speak louder (as always). Can women show empathy for men? Sure, but it is way less than I’ve seen in reverse. Women give out more “man up” type responses than men do, and tend to run out of patience with struggling men (individually and collectively) way faster. Female empathy is like female attraction: highly concentrated. Male empathy is much more evenly spread out (with an obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:36 AM
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Where are you walking? In London it is not “every so often”….it’s CONSTANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:26 AM
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I really don’t get the PPD thing where if you want to leave. Normal comment you have to do it down here. It is a complete and utter waste of everyone’s time and attention. Anyway, as someone below 5’7” the height thing was obviously the most depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:25 AM
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I don’t get women being insecure about their bodies, while also CONSTANTLY fending off suitors. It is a complete failure to match inputs with analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:19 AM
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If men were being regularly selected for sex they wouldn’t be open to manipulation or suggestion in the first place! Think before you post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:15 AM
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If you match with a beautiful woman WHY WOULD YOU NOT MESSAGE HER!? This isn’t the olden days of OLD when you sent messages out to whomever, without a “matching” system.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:03 AM
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I’ve travelled all over the world and have eaten countless amazing and interesting cuisines. There is a huge variety in the precise way people construct their diets, but after 1492 and the global convergence of pre-contact foodways almost every culture on Earth has adopted more or less the same basics: a staple starch, a source of fat, a sample range of vegetables (some root vegetables and some leafy greens), protectives (spices, garlic, onions), usually a notable source of plant protein, and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:51 AM
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Why Judaism? If you “want to convert” doesn’t that mean you already believe…and if you already believe aren’t you already converted (in a way)? (I respect there’s all the study and ritual of formal conversion, I mean more philosophically)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:44 AM
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What counts as walking? I would kind of agree with you (I much prefer people who exercise), but I don’t include your normal walking/cycling to work as “physical activity”. For me it has to go above and beyond the bare necessities of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:42 AM
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This 100%. The people who say “sportsball” are always the most obnoxious, preening, superficial types trying to win lame status games in particular (almost always very young and very left wing) social groups. I like American football, and I don’t mind if other people like or don’t like other things…but to act like enjoying a sport is somehow “not what an intellectual does” is just so back-breakingly cringe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:40 AM
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Only the most boring, culture-less morons “experiment with new diets”. Eat like a human. That’s all you have to do to be healthy. Lots of veggies, some carbs, and a little protein (ideally from an animal). It’s not hard. Every “diet” is pure quackery for people who’ve become totally detached from normal human diets and rhythms of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:27 AM
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Public etiquette is absolutely critical for me as well. Imagine the paradise we would live in if people took tiny steps to make transport systems work more quickly and efficiently (like moving down inside the carriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:20 AM
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I hate when people walk side by side, especially in a busy city. It causes absolute chaos for everyone around them. (Not as bad as people who insist on riding their bikes side by side…they deserve to be run over)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:16 AM
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“Vetting” in general isn’t a problem….its that women vet for narcissism (i.e. they actively select for it), and then turn around and get upset when the narcissist they chose turns out to be….a narcissist. Likewise, women vet for “confidence” (shit-testing of various kinds), but not for things like honesty or financial literacy. If the tests were well designed and produced reliably good outcomes then no one would complain….we’d all finally be playing the same game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:05 PM
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Remember, women are excellent judges of character, and if you’re single it’s your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:00 PM
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Not low self esteem, just reality. I’ve never been in a situation where someone thought I wasn’t great and also wanted to stay with me. They typically just leave if it gets to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:01 PM
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I’ve never once said, let alone screamed, “af/bb”. I don’t believe in it. If I’m with a girl I like, and she likes me, I don’t make it any more complicated than it needs to be. Her reasons are hers, and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:48 PM
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Safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:58 PM
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Men don’t really work like this. If she checks my boxes, I like her. That’s why they’re my boxes!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:54 AM
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Does anyone else think it is sick how often women use “great guy” to mean “unfuckable”? I couldn’t imagine a man EVER talking about how “great” a woman is as a way of rejecting them. Women are screwed up in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:44 AM
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What does it mean to “feel safe”? This is not even remotely “self-explanatory”. When I ride my bike to work am I “safe”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:42 AM
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Even in this well-meaning post you have a funny contradiction: “valuable/adored” and “excited”. If a man values you it is VERY hard to also make you feel “excited”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:45 AM
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What is LA? I never really understand what people mean by “LA” (a place where I grew up). Anything within the county?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:39 AM
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It’s not just about big or small. I live in what Americans normally would call a “college town” (or at least the closest British equivalent). So, the city itself is relatively small, but is full of young-ish, interesting, international people. It can be hard to pin anyone down, however, because people are always coming and going.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:32 AM
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So, environmental pollutants don’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:28 AM
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The sun gives you cancer. You can drown in a puddle of bathtub. Automobile accidents are a major cause of death pretty much everywhere. Where is this “safety”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:27 AM
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Maybe we understand “safety” differently, but people are arguably never “safe”….the best we can hope for is “safe enough”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:20 AM
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Why and how are people “entitled to feel safe”? What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:17 AM
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We’re all rejects on some level….its just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:11 AM
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You’re a child, OP. You’ll grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:36 AM
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Why? I guess people sort of assume Jay Z is ugly, but I don’t see it. He looks pretty normal to me. If he’s normal and she (in my eyes) is also pretty average (a reasonably pretty face with a very unappealing body)……that is looks matched to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:35 AM
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Jay Z and Beyoncé are lokksmatched….they even look similar to each other. (Then again I’ve never thought B was attractive, and I don’t understand why other people do….easily the most hyped person, all around, of the past 20 years)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:12 AM
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Fine, when I was 25 I dated a 19 year old (I was a grad student, she was undergrad, obviously). While it’s not a 20 year age gap (obviously), it still needlessly falls into your “weird” category. Gen Z really need to get over their endless hang ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:16 PM
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The girl I’m seeing is six years younger than me. We’re both in our 30s. Are we “in the same age range” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:47 PM
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Without statistics this is meaningless. Every time I’ve looked for confirmation of this I’ve found NEGLIGIBLE increases in any likelihood of birth defects (rising fractions of a percent….).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:41 PM
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The odds are against you, let’s be honest, but there’s no harm in going on a date and seeing how it feels. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, then at least you know and you can move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:39 PM
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You can’t act like that is a regular occurrence though….you’re being a bit disingenuous. I’m fortunate in that I have a job where you meet new people often, and socialising is a huge part of the work culture (we regularly eat together, drink tea/coffee together in a shared space, etc). I’m fortunate to be in a world where I meet new people all the time….but I very strongly doubt that most people live like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:52 PM
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When I was 23 I dated a 30 year old. When I was 25 I dated a 19 year old. I did not notice ANY difference in either relationship that could be based on 'age gaps'. Just find someone you like and go for it. Don't over-complicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:00 PM
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Ah, yes.....200,000+ years of social evolution will be undone by a single generation of white, middle class, Americans. Sure. Good luck with that! I'll tell my West African and Eastern European friends, I'm sure they'll get a good laugh out of it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:58 PM
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What a bizarre post.... Date whomever you want. Anything else is just over-complicating things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:31 PM
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Good luck finding a culture in any time or place in which boys do not consistently 'act like boys' from a VERY young age. I've been all over the world and I've not found any culture yet in which gender norms are even mildly divergent from 'what you'd expect'. Just give up with the hopeless projection. YOU are the one trying (and laughably failing) to engage in social engineering. What you call "patriarchal society" the rest of us just call "normal". You're the weirdo, not the 98% of people livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:11 PM
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"The question was a trap to make us look unhinged." Nah, you just are unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:39 AM
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If you spend enough time around very young boys (i.e. not online like a weirdo) you get used to different 'boy'-type behaviour that you rarely see in girls. Sometimes it's easy to pinpoint (stereotypical stuff about trucks, or trains, or whatever), sometimes it is a bit more subtle (ways of acting or moving or speaking). It's hard to explain (and I know you're desperate to jump down my throat for any given example with a "well, actually!"), but it's still real and obvious. You just have to actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:38 AM
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I think women giving out false numbers is also rare. In nearly 40 years I think it's happened to me maybe once?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:36 AM
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All women like taller men....you just have to accept it, and get what you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:08 AM
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This. I've NEVER heard a normie talk about shit-testing, even though it is absolutely pervasive once you learn to recognise it. I definitely blew loads of opportunities when I was younger because I thought I was being asked a legit question by a woman, when really I was being shit-tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:05 AM
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"Asking someone for their number is a monumentally stupid idea." What? No. This is crazy. Of course ask people for their number. When did people become so weird and socially awkward!?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:02 AM
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I'm not convinced such places really exist anymore. When's the last time you made friends with a stranger that you had nothing in common with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:00 AM
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Also, "be yourself" elides the most important part, which is "BECOME yourself".... I have the luxury of 'being myself' now....I didn't when I was 19 and hadn't accomplished anything yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:58 AM
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Well done! You cherry picked an insanely rare and isolated incident! The exception proves the rule….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:38 AM
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You’re a moron… wtf does having asthma to do with how ‘dangerous’ someone is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:36 AM
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Don’t bother arguing. These types of women are nature’s killjoy. They’ll go to any and all lengths, even lying and gaslighting, to ensure that no one has any fun, anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:12 AM
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D’Von….. GET THE TABLES!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:11 AM
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Feel free to play with language all you want, like a good little comrade commissar. You cannot, and will not, change biological reality. “Boys will be boys” is the simple recognition of biological fact. No more, and no less. How one reacts and responds to boys’ behaviour is a whole separate matter, and inherently case-by-case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:08 AM
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No man thinks “everyone is into them”….rather, we have to shoot every shot that comes our way, however narrow the odds, because we are not the sexual selectors. Barking up the wrong tree is common and unavoidable, so long as women refuse to be more explicit (and much less fickle) about their views and intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:58 AM
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That’s because the women here are mostly cretinous trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:51 AM
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Oh, a “national” level! I forgot that Americans think they’re the only country on Earth…..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:50 AM
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I’m convinced Gmed66 is LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:48 AM
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She didn’t miss the point, she gaslit. The scenario was chosen on purpose to mislead and shame, not by accident to inform and contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:47 AM
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I’ve never understood what world you live in, because it is so wildly divorced from anything Insee when I look around. I’m not yet 42, but not too far off either (late 30s). I don’t even KNOW any single moms, and certainly wouldn’t date one. My dating pool is women in their late 20s and early 30s, same as it’s always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:45 AM
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Boobs. (I’m kidding, I’m kidding!) Women make life worth living. I’m a better version of myself and live a much fuller life when I’m in a serious relationship. It’s a simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:02 PM
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25 is nearly old enough to be a doctor or PhD here in the U.K. (I submitted my thesis at 25, and defended shortly after my 26th birthday)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:17 AM
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5-6 years isn’t even an age gap unless you’re VERY young.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:09 AM
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I have a union....it sucks. I know Americans think unions will solve everything, but they really don't (although they can be helpful).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:33 PM
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See my above post. You cannot compare superficial “living standards” then and now…you can only compare people with their contemporaries. Otherwise Louis XIV had a low standard of living, because he didn’t have a car and his internet was slow….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:12 AM
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The quality of life thing is a bit misrepresented here. Quality of life can only be considered relative to everyone else. Otherwise, you’d say a Roman emperor had poor quality of life because he had no internet. The fact is that, pound for pound, everyday people had a much larger slice of the economic pie 50-70 years ago. It was a short-lived period (the trente glorieuses), but it was real (particularly if you were white, although even my Chicano ancestors did better in this period than they had…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:08 AM
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Pointless, and very high risk of missing, which means more cleaning afterwards. It looks good in porn, but in real life I just don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:57 PM
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The number one predictor of a person’s lot in life is the economic quintile they were born in The US has abysmal socio-economic mobility, and that mobility is getting worse with each generation. Basically, what your parents or grandparents managed to achieve is literally less likely now than it was then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:27 AM
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Men hate the chase. The easier the woman, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:15 PM
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This assumes you can tell he's playing games....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:14 PM
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Give a woman the gift of you absence.....it is CRITICAL in the early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:12 PM
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It's not about the cost, it's about the situation. It can be a little too intense, and it's sort of easy to be trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:01 PM
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Nah, it’s total bollocks. Every time. If she thought you were perfect, she’d date you. Period. The problem for you is that she might not be sane, mature, responsible, or anything else. So, on paper you might be perfect, but maybe she wants to fuck a crackhead behind a McDonald’s. If you can’t do that for her, then it’s “so long”….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:03 PM
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Even better: don’t do dinner on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:57 PM
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Pound for pound my dating app relationships have been better than my “natural” ones. People everywhere are crazy….you just gotta keep spinning the wheel and hope you get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:53 PM
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Either you have ENORMOUS social circles or have been insanely lucky. Most people cannot find a good partner from the 10-15 men/women they happen to know socially (the vast majority of which will be in relationships anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:39 PM
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What does it mean to 'know someone'?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:38 PM
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I know teenagers like that, but adults living in the real world? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:38 PM
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I do my best to accept reality, as it is. I did not take any ‘pill’, and I don’t think anyone does. You’re assuming people choose a position first, and then justify it. I’d argue people have ideas first, and then retroactively apply a label to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:20 PM
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That….is insane, but if it works for you, then that’s great?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:19 PM
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You have absolutely no way of knowing this when you first meet someone. It’s bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:12 PM
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Playing games is essential. I hate it. It’s stupid. But human psychology is what it is. Even if you saw the text right away, consider waiting to reply (best of all is to be erratic in your replies…..keep her guessing).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:11 PM
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“Escort” is a bullshit term. We’re not talking about 55 year old millionaires buying arm candy for the annual gala…..we’re talking about young, usually poor, men considering spending a small amount of money on a dodgy blowjob. These two things are both gross, sure, but they’re still MILES apart….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:02 PM
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This sounds good until you realise that kids are in school seven hours a day, five days a week, from the ages of 5-18. That’s a lot of time to be at home not really doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:11 AM
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This is moronic. Capitalism has produced more ‘free’ people than any other economic system in history. You think that feudal societies are more free? Really? The actual reality is that the provider/homemaker dynamic is a luxury, and only works in times of plenty. It’s why, at least in European history, it was a fairly rare pattern of family. You have spikes in the late 19th century and mid-20th. Outside those period usually everyone had to work, even if that work was done in the home (like weavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:09 AM
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I’m on date four right now and no sex in sight. It doesn’t bother me. If anything, it’s probably for the best based on where both of us are right now. Previously sex tended to come fairly quickly. Never on a first date, but usually within the first couple weeks. Circumstances change, situations are different. It all just sort of depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:00 AM
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This is complete bullshit. I mean RAPE. The vast majority of full blown rapes go unreported. That is a much bigger problem than the tiny number of false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:49 AM
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Yeah, I only noticed gains when I finally started (massively) upping my protein intake. Let to my own devices I'd probably eat barely 1kg of meat per week. I needed to supplement protein to actually make nay progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:21 PM
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Eating delicious food, without context, is not a sign of anything. Prioritizing "eating delicious food" while in the exact same post describing working out three times a week as "too much".....there is no possible way the poster isn't enormous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:02 PM
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How much (and what kinds of) cheese are you eating? 30-ish grams of hard cheese (or maybe twice that soft) should be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:30 PM
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How is cheese you downfall? It's good for you, and is a source of protein, so it helps keep you full. A lunch wouldn't be complete (in my book) without cheese or tofu.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:04 PM
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This post completely and utterly failed by taking women at their word. Schoolboy error.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:24 PM
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True. I'm a skinny man and putting on muscle has been HARD. Years of training to get the sort of results some bigger guys get in months. But it's ok...I would've been working out anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:18 PM
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"I just can't imagine eating delicious food with him, I imagine such guy would worry about protein" Delicious food IS protein.....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:13 PM
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Basically, she wants to be fat, lazy, and worshipped....being with a committed gym rat would get in the way of all three....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:13 PM
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"Military uniforms, rigs and armor are baggy and unisex enough to fit most women though. " This is factually incorrect, as far as Ukraine is concerned. Do you know any Ukrainians? I work with people who have been intimately involved in the war effort since 2014/5. Trust me, they DO NOT have much kit that actually works for women (so much so that even women currently serving are dependent on clothing and uniform supplements from home/the private sector).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:02 PM
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"Many countries were liberated purely through volunteers including my own. " Fighting an insurgency against a colonial power is radically different from trying to fend off an invading army (thus skipping the whole 'colonialism' part entirely!). Imagine where Ireland would be is the English had been kept out, full stop....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:59 PM
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The Troubles were a TINY insurgency with a total death toll in the low thousands after DECADES of fighting. The casualty bill of the Troubles was surpassed SIX times over in the first 24 hours of the Somme. When you're fighting an existential, industrialised war of survival you CANNOT survive based on volunteerism alone. It is not, nor has it ever been, possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:57 PM
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Yeah! People should have just politely asked if anyone wanted to storm the beaches of Normandy in 1944. That would've worked great! (What did Ireland do in the war again? Remind me.... No guilt over sitting on the sidelines twiddling your thumbs during the single greatest military crisis the world has even known?)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:55 PM
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"So, what exactly are US tax payers getting in exchange for funding Ukraine?" The serious degradation of one of America's oldest rival's military for the cost of 5% of annual Defence spending, and not a single American killed. That is a strategic BARGAIN. That's even before you get to the massive deterrent effect. Once you say "military conquest is politically acceptable again" you open up Pandora's box to old-style land invasions and occupations.....tens of millions would die over the next 50-1…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:47 PM
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"I hate war and conscription in general, and I would flee the country and try to get any male relatives to flee too. From an individual perspective, it's such a silly thing to die for." Thank God there weren't people like you from 1939-1945.......could you IMAGINE what sort of world we would live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:44 PM
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“Third world” means “neither capitalist west (the first world), nor communist east (the second world)”. It doesn’t mean “poor country”. Some third world countries were decidedly better to live in than some communist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:40 AM
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My understanding is that false accusations are pretty rare (less than 10%, and probably less than 5%). Even if you’re just running the numbers you’d be far more right than wrong by believing an accusation, at least in the first instance. The real problem is the rate of unreported sexual assault, which remains sky high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:57 AM
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The OP’s question is moot. Ukraine, like most militaries, has very little equipment to fit women (and I’m just talking the absolute basics: uniforms, body armour, boots, etc.). Even if women were conscripted there’d be no easy way to actually integrate them into the army in the first place (although this is slowly changing). When the initial invasion happened in 2014 Ukrainian women working for the army (training soldiers how to use drones, organising logistical efforts, etc.) were formally unre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:47 AM
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This is why the median age of a Ukrainian soldier today is 43. They’re actively trying to avoid conscripting young people, to avoid having an anti-baby boom after the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:43 AM
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You've got this wrong. Men will excuse shitty behaviour in hot women. Women ACTIVELY PREFER shitty behaviour in men. One's a bug, the other's a feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:19 PM
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That's not "nice".....that's co-dependent. As usual the bar is lowered dramatically when trying to find a female equivalent to a pervasive male problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:18 PM
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Complete and utter bollocks. This is the weirdest gaslight of the dating world in the past 15 years. I've known LOADS of genuinely nice guys....the one's that are mean, transgressive, or dangerous all boast a Moscow victory day parade's worth of red flags that women simply choose to ignore because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:16 PM
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Because women don't run in the race...they wait at the finish line and go home with the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:14 PM
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A LOT more...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:12 PM
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"It also isn’t much to do with looks" Bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:11 PM
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Here’s the problem: you don’t know all of the people who got away with it….because they got away with it! Can’t you see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:16 PM
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More therapy is the LAST thing we need….I’m not convinced therapy is even a net positive overall (including women, for whom therapy tends to be more effective). For men it is far more often a net negative…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:47 AM
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Except that men being short IS unattractive. It’s deep…you can’t culture your way out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:46 AM
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It’s just a regression to the mean. The post-1945 golden age was never going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:41 AM
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Honestly, I don’t think it will get better….it will get worse. We’re exiting the post-SWW economic boom, and have been for some time. The middle class, Western society is failing and within a century or two things will return to the way they’ve always been: an absolutely tiny number of people with near inexhaustible wealth, and a huge number of people living short, brutish lives of quiet desperation. The male mental health crisis is a direct reflection of this, since economic strength is how mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:40 AM
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I wouldn’t call “not seeing a prostitute” twisted….considering the fact that VERY few men do, it is literally the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:37 AM
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Claiming it is 100% inevitable is like thinking you could stop 100% of drugs from crossing international borders. It is absolutely ludicrous….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:36 AM
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“I dress in a way thats comfortable and not expensive. ” So you dress REALLY badly. Got it. Why? There seems to be this weird belief that dressing well is “uncomfortable”, which I’ll never understand. A well-made suit is as comfortable as jeans and a t-shirt. A good quality polo is usually MORE comfortable than a crappy one, etc. Also, “not fat” is a low bar. Go work out, if just for your own sake. Your older self will thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:34 AM
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That’s fair. I’ve had close encounters with lots of wild animals in my life. Only one really scared me….being lunged at by a large bull hippo. Fucking terrifying (but only for a moment).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:19 AM
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This is bollocks. Women poisoned the well with this one. “Women suggest all men should be placed in camps” “Well, I wonder why they said that? Let’s try to understand them better…” No. Bollocks. If you want reasonable engagement then you have to be reasonable yourself. None of this “Teehee, you should have known what I really meant!” childish bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:11 AM
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Survivor man was better than Man vs Nature (now known as “Bear vs bear”).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:39 AM
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Most women’s public interactions are a lie. Women evolved to be constant politicians due to a risk of male threat and intra-sexual competition. This is the basis for “believe what they do, not what they say”. I don’t entirely blame women for this (although some cowardly hide behind it to a gross degree), but I do wish that as a society we placed a much higher value on ‘truth’.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:38 AM
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I don’t think it is inevitable. I think you overestimate the popularity of OF, and underestimate most people’s intelligence to not get caught (just keeping their face off the screen would do it for the vast majority of people).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:34 AM
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Broadly agree, with the exception of “morality clause”….I don’t think they should exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:33 AM
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Exactly. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:31 AM
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You’d “go celibate” before hitting the gym and dressing well? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:28 AM
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I live in the UK. I don’t need to “find out the particulars”. UK law is meant to protect prostitutes from being further victimised by the state…it is not intended to “legalise” prostitution. We’ve always had a small industry (pictures of naked women posted in phone booths), but AT BEST you can call it “decriminalised”. Saying prostitution is “legal” here makes it seem like we’re Amsterdam, when we very much are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:09 AM
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Not in the space of a reddit comment, no. I just think it is personally and morally degrading to everyone in question (the customer and the service provider). I don’t think it is something someone can do without seriously damaging themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:05 AM
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98% of women probably don’t even know what “red pill” is, let alone have any idea what it might be. Absolutely none of them are changing their behaviour over it (and rightly so….if we all changed our behaviour based on what anonymous randos said online the world would be an absolute hellscape).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:02 AM
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Huh? Prostitution is not legal in the U.K. (not really, at any rate)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:58 PM
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I don’t think it is contradictory to dislike “sluts” but to use a prostitute. Someone who goes to work in the waste treatment plant for a living makes sense. The guy that does it for fun is a fucking weirdo. you don’t have to (indeed, probably cannot) respect a prostitute in order to have sex with (to?) her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:56 PM
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Sex workers (strippers) already pay tax. Illegal prostitutes do not. (This is why overly-broad terms like “sex worker” are abysmal….easily the worst thing Gen Z and younger millennials have given us so far).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:53 PM
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I don’t think it would change much at all. If you’re willing to buy sex (an absolutely vile proposition, in my view), then you’re not going to let legality stop you. A bit like ‘hard’ drugs, I don’t think legalisation would dramatically increase the use of prostitution. Cost, convenience, and privacy all give porn a massive edge anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:52 PM
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This is ludicrous. Intoxication is a major risk factor, but "dressing like a harlot" isn't.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:14 PM
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Rape culture is absolutely real....in India. And Saudi Arabia. All across the global south there is REAL rape culture. In the West? No, not even close....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:03 PM
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Not arguing that, obviously. Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, whatever the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:10 PM
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Entitled can't really 'present itself' since it is entirely in the mind. Barring someone explicitly saying "I took you out, so you owe me sex" (which strikes me as incredibly rare...) I don't think there is much 'entitlement' out there at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:04 PM
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“I’ll be a bachelor til I die” was written by Hank Williams in the 1940s….. You’re reading WAY too much into a tiny Alice of American popular music in a given period (without even offering any examples!).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:44 AM
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Angry, petulant, even offensive =/= “entitled”, though…. ‘Entitled’ has a specific meaning, and does not apply to anything you’ve said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:00 AM
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But remember….feminists don’t hate men!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:30 AM
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There was the left wing male advocates sub…but it is now defunct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:23 AM
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Feminists are the greatest masters of the motte and bailey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:21 AM
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In my experience the handful of women who don’t identify as ‘feminist’ (however they might choose to define that) tend to be absolutely mad….. Steer clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:12 AM
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Sir, this is a Wendy’s….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:50 AM
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"Okay, but the thing is that if you get super frustrated about losing a board game and whine about it a bunch, your friends are going to label you a sore loser " Yes, but this is moving the goalposts. The topic is "do men feel entitled to sex" not "do men sometimes cross the line when complaining about their romantic struggles"....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:13 PM
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Most of my closest female friends are SUBSTANTIALLY taller than me. It helps. Neither of us can be attracted to the other, so we don't have to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:11 PM
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I'd say the opposite: American wealth allows them to continue getting married. Trust me, it isn't debatable. Our median income is WAY below that of America, and our social safety nets are nowhere near what Americans seem to think it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:09 PM
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Like 99% of women problems this is entirely IN YOUR HEAD. Men do not like 'the chase'. We hate it. You went after Chad, and you got pumped and dumped. Instead of learning the real lesson (do not go after Chad/enter the kitchen unless you can stand the heat) you retreat back to a position that saves your ego and will be less effective. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:20 PM
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Yes, and we’re still MUCH poorer than Americans. You cannot draw a hard and fast rule here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:16 PM
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How can young women today, the GRANDCHILDREN, of women who were actually oppressed, feel or be subject to biases that existed decades before their birth? Also, breathtakingly false? In the US and U.K. women got the vote over a century ago. Women were granted access to male-only parts of universities by the 1970s at the absolute latest. Western nations (except the US) have had female leaders going back decades. How, exactly, are women not emancipated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:15 PM
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Where did you grow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:11 PM
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I've never understood this. It would seem SUPER awkward to go out of my way to reposition myself when walking down the street with a woman. The other day I was walking down the street with a woman (walking back home after a date). I was on the street side. We crossed the street and continued on down the road. That put me on the inside. Should I have physically crossed over her to protect her from the empty street? That sounds absolutely mad, and would've been awkward (if not outright insulting).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:46 PM
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You can hand-wave reality away all you want...that doesn't make it less real. Marriage, long term partnership, and even sex are all WAY down from previous generations. This is a stone cold fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:43 PM
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"I don't get the fixation on the institution of marriage. Large parts of Europe are over marriage and simply cohabiting." Most of Europe is also dirt-poor compared to North America....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:43 PM
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….yeah. That’s exactly my point. Men get VERY little interest from most women….and so cannot afford to have a ‘type’.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:57 PM
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If you’re trying to make the argument that women’s liberation is more impactful for modern dating than more proximate factors like changes in communications technology….then make your argument. Insinuation isn’t going to cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:34 PM
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"Yes, it's true. Marriages 100 years ago were based on survival and resources." Kind of...but not really. Especially among the working class (i.e. the VAST majority of people) couples absolutely married for love. Haven't you ever spoken to your grand- or great-grandparents about their lives? This idea that women were chattel passed around with absolutely no agency is wildly blown out of proportion. I have a relative who'll be 88 this year. She married at the age of 17. She did not 'have' to marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:19 PM
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Honestly, neither of those statements bother me, even your caricatured 'extreme' statement. Sometimes people get upset and they have a little outburst. It's life. No big deal. You've never had a moment of frustration in your life over anything? Never tried to build IKEA furniture and wound up cursing the entire nation of Sweden to hell and back?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:02 PM
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The OP sounds like a reasonable point until you realise that women have been emancipated in the West for AT LEAST 50 years, yet the dating market has only really become unbalanced in the last 15-ish years. Smart phones and changes in culture exist, and they matter. The fact that more people (men and women) are single today than at any other known time in recorded history is striking, and should be a genuine cause for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:45 AM
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You don't actually know men, do you? Men shoot their shot at any woman who is averagely attractive AND SHOWS INTEREST. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:15 AM
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I'd be interested to know how broad the study was (I'm going to assume they did not include African men in the study) and would REALLY like to know if they controlled for weight. The preference for East Asian women probably correlates 1-1 for a preference for slimness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:13 AM
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"they say "dumb woman doesn't see what a nice guy I am for buying her food. Her loss"" .....so? Are men never allowed to voice disappointment or dissatisfaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:09 AM
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This is completely and utterly deranged. NO MAN, anywhere, actually believes that buying a woman a drink directly buys them sex. That is absolutely ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:39 AM
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Children don’t need loving parents and caretakers (although they are obvious advantages). Many children don’t have this and manage to survive. In theory we could ALL live in tents and survive. We’d be very cold and uncomfortable, but it is theoretically doable. That doesn’t mean that suitable housing is not a “need”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:37 AM
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This just isn’t true. “ The reason no one is fucking you the way and frequency you want is because nobody [that you personally know] wants [or is able] to” This comes a bit closer to the truth (and is MUCH softer and less grossly offensive than the OP).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:34 AM
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Again, I don’t see how your comment rises to “entitlement”. If a man goes on a tirade because he’s sexually frustrated that is sort of the OPPOSITE of “expecting” or “being owed” sex….its just wanting something and not getting it. Is a starving person upset because they feel “entitled” to food, or are they merely hungry? Words have meanings and you simply refuse to accept them. The only people I’ve ever known who felt ‘entitled’ to sex were Chads and women…because they’re not used to being rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:31 AM
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Unless you can precisely define “entitled to” and distinguish it from merely “desiring” this post is completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:25 AM
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First off, brevity is the soul of wit. Secondly, wtf is this rant? It’s wrong that men hit on women? Can you not distinguish between “desiring” and “expecting” something? If I go to a restaurant I EXPECT food. If they fail to deliver food after I’ve paid, then we have a problem. If I am going out with. Girl I DESIRE sex. If it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen….no big deal, because there is no unspoken agreement on the exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:14 AM
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Not ‘expect’, we ‘hope’ or ‘desire’. This is the FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:07 AM
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Women don’t have to read any psychology to understand men…they just have to listen and accept that men might have ideas or perceptions that are unexpected (something women will never admit, because it challenges their entire worldview).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:03 AM
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The only country on EARTH that has universal conscription is Israel. Again, the EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE. The IDF is built to fight very short, very aggressive wars (the current debacle in Gaza is not what the IDF was designed to do), and in that sort of war universal conscription can make sense. Conscription based on 'ability' is impossible. I don't think you've considered how hard that would be to implement. Raw strength it REALLY bloody useful. You don't know any soldiers do you? In a seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:19 PM
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Exceptions prove the rule, my friend....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:01 PM
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"If my husband ever did that I would feel so ugh. " I can guarantee you, categorically, that he has done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:49 PM
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On some level, yes, it is a mutual obligation (assuming everything else is more or less in order). That doesn't mean you have to say 'yes' every time...but you probably should at least once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:49 PM
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Only men are drafted for a bunch of reasons. They're bigger and stronger than women (on average) They are not the reproduction bottleneck Very few militaries have huge quantities of female-usable equipment (body armour, uniforms, packs, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:21 PM
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"Conservative ideals and traditional gender roles are responsible for the draft." No. Hard geo-political reality is responsible for the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:00 PM
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So you’re saying you’re a rich white guy? Because that’s all I’m hearing….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:16 AM
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We don’t tell you to your face, but the reality is that almost all men “make it work” with whomever happens to like them. It’s a rare experience, so we can’t afford to be picky. Gotta make the best out if the hand dealt to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:12 AM
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The OP’s TikTok is like fighting with your partner over a dream you had, but worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:10 AM
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I’ve never known anyone with a ‘type’. At best people have preferences (particularly women….most men just take what they can get). You’d be very hard-pressed to find any consistent physical similarities between the women I’ve dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:09 AM
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AMERICAN men don’t have to dress up. Come to Europe. Wearing a t-shirt and jeans everyday will be frowned upon if you’re an adult man (basically you’ll be considered a child).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:19 AM
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A man’s life matters less because men are not the procreation bottleneck. A nation that loses 1/5 of its young men will bounce back no problem. A nation that loses 1/5 of its women is in MUCH worse shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:16 AM
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What exactly is “technology”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:55 AM
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:37 AM
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The market for prostitution is absolutely tiny (thankfully). I can’t imagine more than 5% of Western men have ever paid for sex (and probably far less than that!).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:37 AM
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My Poland-based female friends seem to date more foreigners than they probably would have ten years ago….does that track with what you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:33 AM
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For me F tier is pretty much all of Scandinavia, and the Netherlands. Their median woman is taller than me by a significant margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:56 AM
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It was still a bit like that when I was in Poland earlier this year...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:38 AM
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“yeah but most women lose their virginities before 18” Hahahahha Exactly! This was my first thought when I saw some of the weird ‘virgin’ chatter around here. Complete and utter delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:03 AM
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As someone raised Catholic I always find this funny. All of the craziest religious people where I grew up were Protestant….not Catholic. Think of every TV preacher, born-again, mega-church, weirdo….all Protestant. Maybe it was because I grew up in a Catholic town, in relatively Catholic region of America, but the Catholics were always WAY more laid back and less extreme. There’s a reason cultural or ‘cafeteria’ Catholics exist….but Protestant equivalents are nowhere near as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:01 AM
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It’s not just mobile phones….the pace of life is different. I used to drop in on people frequently back in the Nokia days. Now it would never even cross my mind… Partially it’s a social norm, but everyone (myself included) is just so damn BUSY!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:57 AM
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People use dating apps because they’ve exhausted (or are at least adding to) the supply of potential partners they might meet organically. It’s not like people don’t go out anymore. Also, sex on a first date is rare in general, let alone first OLD dates. Generally you’ll go for coffee or a walk (at least in my town), have a chat like you would with any stranger and go from there. It’s no less natural than meeting someone “the old-fashioned way”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:50 AM
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I’m in my 30s, actually….which still feels much older than the median age around PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:12 PM
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I wouldn't say 'old', but certainly older than a lot of people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:22 PM
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There have been other times in history when people settled down later in life....usually because the quality of life is very poor and it takes a long time to build up enough resources to live well (maybe European late-medieval/early modern societies had men marrying around 30....which is when they were out of their apprenticeships and ready to make money).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:36 PM
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" I use to live in poland and was shocked by how many beautiful women were with a dude that looked like shrek." Yeah, but that's Poland in a nutshell. Insanely beautiful women, plain and trollish men. It's almost comical how big some of the looks gaps are in some Polish relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:17 PM
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"I think we need to "degender" some traits. Agency, self sufficiency, stoicism, independence etc. should no longer be considered "masculine". It's ok for a man to be vulnerable. It's ok for a woman to be strong." All of these traits ALREADY WERE degendered, and had been for decades. Then Gen Z (and some younger millennials) rocked up and decided to re-gender them for absolutely baffling reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:57 PM
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Yeah, basically this. I have no idea how society got so soft, so fast. Even just 10 years ago I couldn't have imagined it...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:52 PM
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"Side note it is always super weird when people need to audibly stretch and groan in a public space--never understood that." You will when you get older. It is not voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:46 PM
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I feel awful for your bf.....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:43 PM
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I am a man. I am inherently masculine...I don't have to "feel" masculine anymore than I have to "feel" like I have brown eyes. I just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:42 PM
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That's interesting. 9 or 10 still seems pretty young....and as I get older I'm increasingly skeptical of schools stepping in to 'correct' parenting. The idea that a bunch of C students (teachers) know better than the child's actual parents doesn't sit well with me, like it used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:36 PM
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Don’t come to Europe then! Casual flirting is extremely common (and doesn’t actually mean anything 99% of the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:33 AM
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That’s interesting. You were around 10, I guess? I seem to recall having my first sex ed class around 11/12. It seemed a bit early in hindsight, but I understand the need to pitch a little younger than is really needed for most people to catch outliers. Would you say the focus on consent was helpful? It has become a huge focus (for obvious reasons), but I am on the fence as to how effective it can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:28 AM
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If you’re arguing that teen pregnancy is higher among ‘controlling’ parents versus lax parents….I don’t know what to tell you. The numbers undoubtedly prove you wrong. Who do you think has more unwanted, teenage pregnancies: the children of tight-knit religious families, or the children of unwed/single parents? You know the answer without even having to blink. Teenage pregnancies aren’t caused by sex ignorance. On the contrary. Most teenage pregnancies, I’d argue, come from children who know WAY…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:24 AM
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Can you compare single mothers with simple poverty? I would assume that the progeny of both would have similar (possibly even identical) rates of delinquency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:40 PM
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I am totally in favour of age-appropriate sex education, but I think you would be VERY hard pressed to link a reduction in school-based safe sex education with any demonstrable rise in unwanted pregnancies. People are not as dumb as you seem to think they are, and people usually have unwanted pregnancies (carries to term) when they’re already in a horrible position….45 minutes spent with your gym teacher describing how to use a condom is unlikely to make much of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:39 PM
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So, you’re hot, but boring. Whose fault is that? You hit the genetic jackpot and squandered it. Wtf do you do all day that you effectively have no life, hobbies, goals, friends, or interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:29 AM
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Social shaming is NOT bullying…and social pressure absolutely works. There’s a reason why if you walk the streets of Paris, or London, or Tokyo, or Barcelona, or Warsaw you see people look GOOD just going about their daily business. There is social pressure to dress appropriately when going outside. Try to do this in most North American cities. At best you’ll see adults dressed like children (men in baseball hats, graphic tees, “edgy” facial hair, and shorts). At worst you can’t tell if someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:17 AM
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I’ve not noticed a huge difference one way or the other. It’s like the girl pre-determines whether or not she likes you, and you can either do no right, or no wrong….
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:15 PM
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Ah, ok....that's fair enough. The parts of EE I've been to are VERY casual, as you say....a bit like America, in that regard. Anyway, EE is great. Good food, great people (at least in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:20 PM
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"Taking this advice will make you appear very odd." What!? No. Not at all. Using someone's name, especially someone you only know as an acquaintance is like a super power. They will be SO much more receptive to you going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:52 PM
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So, you only like slobs? Where (roughly) do you live? Here in SE England you'd basically be stuck dating chavs and stealing bicycles for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:42 PM
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"We live in a super causal environment" "We" live in a super casual environment, or YOU live in a super casual environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:04 PM
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Couldn't agree more (although I suspect most of the Americans here won't understand).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:03 PM
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How is a tweed or linen suit 'rigid'? You mean those crappy polyester suits Americans wear when they have to go to a funeral?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:00 PM
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Clothes are borderline irrelevant for me (as a man). Body language is everything. Without it, there's no shot at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:56 PM
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I can answer you: a woman being accountable means being respectful in how she talks about men's struggles, and perhaps cutting guys a little slack if they make minor slip ups in dating (i.e. try to not get the 'ick' for ludicrously petty reasons). It's really not much, but I think everyone (women included) would be happier if women were a bit more empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:51 PM
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You can't argue against evolution and game theory. If 'men' decided to only pursue a narrow range of women then a small handful of guys who approached almost every woman would have WAY more children than anyone else....and we'd be right back to where we started within a generation or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:49 PM
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" Most porn consumption was still dvd’s only 15 years ago." Maybe boomers were still buying DVDs, but no one under 45 today has EVER purchased an adult DVD. That is how old internet porn is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:38 PM
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So, basically the Madonna-Whire complex is real and desirable and weird over-educated feminists are wrong again? Who would’ve thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:45 AM
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Unless you’re willing to be REALLY specific this is totally meaningless…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:44 AM
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“Has potential” usually just means “tall” (and probably white) for most women…..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:40 AM
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This seems to make sense prima facie, but why is it a new phenomenon? Internet porn is 30 years old. Why were millennials not impacted the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:47 AM
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A man who is already in decline by his 30s either: is a pro athlete made some TERRIBLE decisions in life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:26 PM
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This simply ain’t true. Every study of happiness and wellbeing places conservatives noticeably above progressives. Their ‘happiness’ might not always be healthy or desirable to others (a conservative’s idea of happiness doesn’t necessarily appeal to me), but that doesn’t make the feeling any less real to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:15 PM
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Because I am a leftist who thinks that TDS has seriously damaged progressive goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:14 PM
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Desperate desire is NOT entitlement. When hungry people dream of food they’re not acting ‘entitled’. If it seems ‘entitled’ to you then you aren’t listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:57 PM
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I find it hard to sympathise with women’s dating struggles. Their problems are much more likely of their own making, and there’s usually no good excuse for the ridiculous situations they put themselves in. On the other hand I think of my male friends who’ve struggled, and I’m mostly struck by how NORMAL they are. Women here act like the men who struggle at dating are all 300lbs neckbeards, but they aren’t. If I had a line-up of my successful and unsuccessful friends and asked strangers to pick w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:52 PM
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Mainly because I’m tired of Democrats tilting at windmills when there are real problems to address. The exact amount of money Trump does, or does not, have is totally irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:46 PM
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You’re being ridiculous. Advice, like don’t text too much, stiff upper lip, etc. can be good advice that helped people. Not all help is immediate/in the moment and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:45 PM
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This is bollocks. People can ABSOLUTELY be helped. I know I have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:14 AM
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I wouldn’t call it “sexy”, just far more put together. A normal outfit for me in SE England would look “overdressed” in Northern California.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:40 AM
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Thinking that Trump is not a billionaire is the weirdest Democrat cope. Why bother fighting a pointless battle? It doesn’t matter either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:06 AM
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This is in part because people, men and women, dress better in general than Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:00 AM
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A tiny handful of mid-century French intellectuals do not represent French national (let alone regional) culture…..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:59 AM
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Restaurant culture is much more prevalent in North America than Europe. People eat at home much more here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:31 AM
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I’m going to assume you have VERY little experience with France or French people…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:27 AM
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Less neurotic than the Anglosphere and less slothful than Southern Europe. A real sweet spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:21 AM
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The US wasn’t invaded. I hate this ‘surrender’. Nonsense. The French didn’t “give up” in 1940….they were defeated! Totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:19 AM
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Well, side affairs are a whole other thing. It’s like the signs you sometimes see (saw) are Paris in February: “Remember to buy two bouquets, one for your wife and one for your mistress!” (Not going to bother to translate back into French, but you get the idea)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:17 AM
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It’s been many years since I dated a French girl, but things seemed to work well. Much more reasonable than the U.K., where alcohol plays such a heavy (outsized) role. I haven’t dated in the US in 20 years, so I have no idea what’s going on there. Enfin, j’adore encore La Patrie….
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:09 AM
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Progressives put more emphasis on mental health because they are, on average, mentally unhealthy. The left wing/right wing mental health and happiness gap is huge. (I say this as a lifelong socialist. Most of my political comrades are sad, weird, and have a long list of mental health diagnoses. My conservative friends are a bit dim, but they are much happier.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:54 AM
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Any channel recommendations? I agree that a lot of the discussion here feels wildly out of step with my actual experience int he real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:48 AM
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The vast majority of doctors I’ve met in my life are insufferable assholes. It doesn’t surprise me that lots of them struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:46 AM
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This has been my exact experience as well. As I’ve gotten older the women I’ve dated have ONLY become hotter, YoY. This can’t, and won’t, last forever, but it has absolutely been my reality up to this point (late 30s). I don’t get the weird drive some people have to “prove” that the world we actually live and see outside “isn’t true”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:37 AM
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A friend of mine is one of those feminists who “don’t hate men”. She also encouraged on of my students to apply for a post because “if you don’t, they’ll probably give it to a man!”. Flip the genders on that and try to claim the person “doesn’t hate women”….there’s no possible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:03 PM
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“Meta study” meaning a convoluted literature review. There’s not much to say about this because o e would have to go through each of the actual studies (dozens listed) and consider the methodology of each one, individually. It’s the equivalent of presenting a wall of text and then pointing to the lack of opposition as proof of your argument’s validity. I’ll say this: I am DEEPLY sceptical of social scientific research. I think their methods tend to be abysmal, especially when they rely on pollin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:58 PM
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I didn’t think we’d arrive at “get thee to a nunnery” so quickly….
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:51 PM
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I was an undergrad 20 years ago. I almost never “met new people” outside of class. Once a social group forms it tends to adhere pretty tightly. This idea that people go down to the bar and meet new people like we live in an 80s sitcom is just baffling. It is SO far removed from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:39 PM
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I wish more things corrugated our youth! They may still be unhappy, but at least they’d be groovy…..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:36 PM
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I was an undergraduate when WoW came out. You CANNOT blame video games on the shift, since we had, hands down, the most popular and addictive game of all time, in its peak. Video game consoles/PC gaming are 40+ years old. We need to come up with better, more convincing rationales.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:35 PM
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At that same age a majority of my male friends were long-term single. And definitely not having sex even yearly (let along monthly). So much of this depends on social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:34 PM
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You sound very young….
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:31 PM
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I have never, and would never, make fun of a friend for their choice in partner. The vast majority of male friends I've had have struggled to get ANY girlfriend, at all. Anyone is better than no one. We're not all American high schoolers, you know....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:57 AM
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Having actually lived life (not just scrolled reddit), men who actively prefer fat women are a TINY minority. I’ve never personally known a friend to reject a woman he liked because of what his friends might think….never once, for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:59 AM
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Paragraphs are your friend…..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:57 AM
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Because FWB doesn’t exist outside of a small number of depraved individuals. In the vast, vast majority of cases at least one of the pair actually wants a relationship, but is too scared/immature/selfish to actually have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:55 AM
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"Men piss on the toilet seat and floor. I don't." Well, maybe you should try a bit harder! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:41 PM
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How old were these men? They sound like children. Anyway, you misunderstand (unsurprisingly). Yes, men want other people to know if they have a hot gf....but the opinions of other people WILL NOT impact how attractive they think their partner is. (In part because it is rare for men to have a mismatch in either direction...if I am dating someone I think is hot 99% of my male friends will agree, because our standards are highly, well....standard!).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:17 AM
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This is not even remotely how men work. Men have more or less objective preferences that are shared by more or less all other men. It's a standard scale, whereas women's scales are HIGHLY idiosyncratic, and also very much shaped by peer opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:05 AM
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Leagues ABSOLUTELY exist. I will never date Margot Robbie. Even if we worked together, saw each other every day, got along great, etc. Doesn't matter. She is wildly out of my league and both of us would know it. Leagues are loose, fuzzy, and somewhat permeable....but they absolutely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:03 AM
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I would say 2-3. Most women do not stay single for very long. Those that are long term single tend to prefer zero sex to 'some sex'....which is often why they're long-term single in the first place. The vast, vast majority of women in their 30s are either in long term relationships/marriages or are spinsters. Single 30+ women who are reasonably attractive, actively looking, and even remotely stable tend to be VERY rare, and are snatched up very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:02 AM
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"The arrangement suits us both and nobody has to lie about anything." Come back in a few months and tell us how it worked out. Personally, I think that the way you described your dating life is sad and depraved (there's a reason why 'open' relationships don't last very long), but you do you. I guess you've elected the way of pain...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:28 AM
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“Is he always able to drop everything to come do whatever I want and again, we aren't in a relationship? Too available.“ This is hilarious. You: “Hey, wanna do something this weekend?” Him: “Yeah, sure!” You: “Ugh, you’re TOO AVAILABLE!” Women really are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:34 AM
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FWB doesn't exist....you were in a relationship, she was just too cowardly to admit it until it was too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:11 PM
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I've had the opportunity, multiple times, and passed it up....every time. I don't regret it. My integrity is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:10 PM
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OK, but how do you define 'too available'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:07 PM
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That's bollocks. Adding another person does not DOUBLE the amount of chores. I find it only adds a small amount (in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:54 PM
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You're moving the goalposts. You said "better to be single". I showed, mathematically, how this is not true. Everything else comes down to relationship particulars, which are unique in every case, making them impossible to talk about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:25 PM
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Couldn’t disagree more. Occasional sex with a non-partner doesn’t offer a lifelong foundation on which to build a sustainable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:06 PM
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Your maths are all wrong. Even in quite a bad case (a man who makes MUCH less, and only does, say, 20% of the chores), that’s still a net win over being single. Doing 80% of housework is better than doing 100%, even accounting for the (slightly) lesser quantity of work maintaining a single vs a couple household.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:20 PM
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Humans are social creatures. Your ‘future’ will ALWAYS rely on other people. It is normal and HEALTHY. Trying to be ‘independent’ is what is unhealthy. The truly independent are homeless beggars or unwashed, stinking mountain men. Being ‘independent’ is practically a death sentence for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:49 AM
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Men don’t have a static attractiveness. That’s the catch. Men have a ‘range’ depending on the woman. Most men’s range is pretty broad, as well….especially if you’re somewhat middling. I’d say I range from a 2 to a 8 depending on the girl. So, it’s best to not think about it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:45 AM
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Nah. One person (or both) are just kidding themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:42 AM
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I would have people be more courteous, honest and resilient. A ‘no’ is better than ghosting, a ‘yes’ is better than ‘dropping hints’, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:59 AM
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If ‘the one’ is purely ex post facto then it is a meaningless concept….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:55 AM
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Absolutely happy to settle, and I think most people are (if they’re honest). It comes down to definitions, really….because no one is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:54 AM
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Every FWB situation I’ve ever seen is built on a lie. You can define something however you want, but in actual practice it is a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:49 AM
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All of that is bollocks. First off “want to fuck” is not an on/off switch. If you are attracted to someone 5% that’s not the same as someone you’re over the moon for. Level of attraction matters, and as long as level of attraction is below a certain point (for whatever reason) there’s no real barrier to friendship between otherwise potential mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:30 AM
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FWB is dating…the people involved are just too cowardly to call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:25 AM
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Our inflation is worse than America’s in the U.K….. Also, I’m not at all convinced we have a higher standard of living. Yes, lots of holidays, but shockingly low pay, and very outdated living conditions (a dishwasher is a LUXURY in the UK, and still pretty rare…).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:35 PM
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….are all those women working the same hours in similarly intense jobs compared to their husband? In my experience men really don’t care about any of the things you listed. We’re quite happy at home, in our pants, playing video games. The events that women plan they basically plan for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:55 AM
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I’ve never in my life seen a woman aggressively stay in shape AND complain that their husband didn’t keep the romance alive. Usually, the wife lets herself go (a little, or a lot), and then wonders why she doesn’t get the same sort of attention she got previously. In any case, I don’t know why anyone expects the dating stage to last forever. It’s a stage. You can’t expect couples that are married for 10-20-50 years to still be structured in the same way as a newly established young couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:52 AM
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I straight up do not believe this. I you’re 23 your grandparents are probably in their 60s….meaning this would’ve happened in the 1970s. Unless your family is from the Middle East of Sub-Saharan Africa you’re talking bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:48 AM
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I don’t understand the arcane rules here. I don’t understand arcane rules in any sub. Why can’t you let people post threads and then let others respond at their prerogative?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:45 AM
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How does ‘slavery’ mark out ‘the west’ in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:44 AM
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No, it’s the game where people with basic historical and geopolitical literacy use accurate terms. 40 years ago there were three ‘worlds’). The First World (Democratic, capitalist countries aligned with the US); the Second World (countries aligned with the Soviet Union); and the Third World (everyone else). The Cold War is over, hence there is no ‘third world’ anymore. Calling a country ‘third world’ is like calling Germany ‘the Holy Roman Empire’.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:43 AM
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You do realise that the ‘third world’ doesn’t exist anymore, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:46 PM
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I have been to The Gambia and that poster is 100% right. It is a huge destination for older white women looking for young men. The closer you get to The Gambia (no direct flights outside of peak season) the more and more the plane is filled with older white women and their much younger, African men. (I don’t necessarily care, my Gambian friends kind of roll their eyes at the whole situation….but it is definitely a thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:45 PM
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Smoking weed is illegal where I live. I would not classify it as “obviously wrong”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:41 PM
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Literally every nation on Earth has a ‘lower standard of living’ compared to Americans. Our (UK) median salary is like HALF that of Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:40 PM
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Ugh, what? Americans invented slavery and are responsible for both World Wars? Wtf world do you live in? Go to West Africa (a region where polygyny is rampant and slavery still exists). NO ONE will ever mention the trans-Atlantic slave trade, ever, outside of very specific locations (slave forts). They have far bigger, and much more temporally proximate, problems….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:39 PM
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You’ve not spent much time around bears, have you? They’re WAY bigger than you seem to think….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:35 PM
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Natural selection will take care of it…. (I’m half convinced that humanity is already experiencing a Malthusian crisis, and that low birth rates in developed countries is an almost instinctual response to try to prevent overpopulation…..)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:33 PM
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Women who are way too online and live in a bubble say that. If women in reality wanted to die more than risk sexual assault then the “freeze” response simply wouldn’t exist. ALL women would fight back, when in reality, we know that very few do (sadly). It’s pure cope. Most people would chose to live IN REALITY. Everything else is a virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:28 PM
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Attraction CAN grow, slowly, over time….but it is RARE. In my nearly 40 years it has never happened to me, or any of my male friends, even once. A relationship either happened right away, all at once….or never.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:24 PM
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How old are you….because you sound VERY young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:22 PM
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I looked it up, it is way more prevalent than I thought (I am originally from California, where we don't have minimum cash wages). https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped/2015 The US is fucked up. Glad I left. This doesn't happen in the EU, or the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:58 PM
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This is only true in some cases (i.e. in some parts of the United States). Sub-minimum wages for restaurant staff is not a reality for MOST Americans (the few remaining places with mandated lower pay for servers, iirc, tend to be low-population, rural, conservative states and districts). It is not true anywhere in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:56 PM
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UK service workers are paid less than most American ones, and generally do not receive tips. This is a cultural thing, not economic (in most cases).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:16 PM
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Talk to your grandparents. The 1950s were nowhere near as wildly draconian (in terms of gender....race and sexuality were a whole other matter) as later media and myth would have you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:14 PM
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Well, yeah….at least the bear knows how to survive out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:21 AM
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This might actually be fair. Black bears are super chill, and legitimately more afraid of you than you are of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:18 AM
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Depends on the season. Spring bear is better than autumn bear (the meat gets fishy in the autumn, as their diet changes from berries and roots to, well, fish).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:15 AM
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Most firearms aren’t going to do much against an angry grizzly. You’d need a lot of stopping power, and you can’t expect everyone to constantly carry around a high-powered rifle if they just want to stroll through the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:12 AM
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I couldn’t agree more sick and totally detached from reality. The isolation and paranoia is palpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:10 AM
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Another thing to consider: lots of different cultures exist. In some of the matrilineal Eastern Woodland societies (like the Creek) sex was absolutely important, men were not necessarily in a great position of power, and people could form pair bonds on their own accord (by choice/love).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:06 PM
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Absolutely everything takes effort….whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:52 PM
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Yes, of course. The future is VERY long (if all goes well). Polygynous societies will inevitably rise (and fall) again in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:51 PM
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I’m recently out of a very long term relationship, and it’s kind of amazing how interested women still are. Maybe more than before (in my early 30s?). I’m way smaller than you (5’6”!), but am very much in shape, full head of hair, etc. I’ve started to notice little aches and pains if I tweak something during a workout. Gotta be WAY more careful with form than I was a decade ago!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:42 PM
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Right? When I was 24 I went to see ‘The Dead’ with a professor buddy of mine and his girlfriend (both of whom were in their 40s). It was TOTALLY NORMAL (well, as normal as a Dead show can be….). I think A LOT of people really don’t go outside. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:35 PM
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Here’s a question for you: when did you start to feel middle aged? I’m a few years younger than you (late 30s), but still feel young (largely because I’m still unmarried, no mortgage, etc.). I sort of suspect that if my life had gone differently I’d feel middle aged already….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:29 PM
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This isn’t really true. Divorces were WAY more common than you’d expect in places like medieval Italy (at least in the 13th or 14th C….thing clamp down as Italy enters the Renaissance/ least modern period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:03 PM
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“ If a woman is laser-focused on that type I’m the next level down from guys who are really big-time.” I found this simultaneously hilarious, poignant, humiliating, and invigorating. I’ve been the “next level down”, but in a very different milieu (small, cultured, and bookish). It’s really not a bad place to be, all things considered….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:05 PM
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This is VERY culturally specific. Good luck trying to make an Eastern European woman split the bill….particularly on a first date!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:45 PM
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Simple: have a little empathy. I’ve never been a starving child in a refugee camp, but I don’t have to have had that experience to know it sucks. Use your brain. Imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:20 PM
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I met my oldest friend in the exact same way (but it was a hat, rather than a shirt). Keep on truckin’!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:12 PM
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What you’re describing has nothing to do with their age….it has to do with their maturity and curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:07 PM
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When I was 23 I dated a 30 year old woman. Our ages were never ‘a thing’, or even noticeable. We were just people. When I was 25 I dated a 19 year old….same story. Just people. People who rail against ‘age gaps’ have VERY strange ideas about how adults interact in real life. I have close friends that range -14 and +18 years apart from me. Occasionally you can feel the age difference in terms of reference or slang, but generally speaking we’re all just adults, and we relate to each other as such.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:05 PM
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This only happens when it works. It rarely works (from a man’s perspective).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:34 AM
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Yes. Men are MUCH simpler than women seem to realise. If life is easy, we get happy (generally speaking, there are exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:02 AM
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I’m a historian who, among other things, teaches the rise of Liberalism in the 19th century. Liberalism was (and remains) centred on being ‘free’ from governmental interference in business (particularly in overseas trade). It was a reaction against mercantilist and protectionist regimes that predominated in the previous centuries. So, a liberal would say that, rather than have chartered companies be given sole right to trade in a given geography ANYONE who has the capital should be able to do so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:22 AM
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You can’t judge “successful” men by top 0.001% boomers. The OP is clearly asking about normally “successful” men, not billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:50 AM
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This might be accurate in “uneducated but wealthy” circles. In “educated and successful” cultures, however, it couldn’t be more wrong. I couldn’t imagine showing up to a black tie dinner with someone who had no education or intellectual interests and pursuits. It wouldn’t be fair to anyone (least of all to her!).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:45 AM
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You….don't know what neoliberalism is. It is what we would today call a conservative ideology, even though it’s 19th century origins would be considered “left wing” for their time (a time when monarchies and extreme protectionism still predominated across Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:42 AM
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Fewer. Not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:42 PM
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Again, for the MILLIONTH time....you can't just say "older". It doesn't mean anything. Is a 23 year old likely to find a 27 year old more attractive than another 23 year old (all other things being equal)? Very often, yes! Is a 23 going to find a 72 year old more attractive than the 27 year old? Well, obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:42 PM
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Nah. Age-gap relationships are shit on primarily by older women who don't like the competition. No one else cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:40 PM
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If an unintended pregnancy occurs after sex.....I would call that a 'mistake'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:21 PM
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If a person causes car crash by their reckless driving, but didn't "want" to cause a car crash....then they're off the hook, right? What nonsense....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:05 PM
2

Ludacris - Area Codes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:35 PM
2

It’s not some fucking conspiracy! It’s based on simple experience with women who rapidly descend into emotional nonsense in discussions/arguments and refuse to accept anything like a clear, logical view of the given situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:59 AM
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If you think ‘Regional Sales Manager’ is status you’ve never been around REAL status. Recognised artists, diplomats, public intellectuals, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:39 AM
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This makes sense in practice, but does it make sense in theory? It’s not just ‘sex’, it is security (financial and otherwise). The real question is: if you were an emperor would you only have one wife? History suggests that the usual answer is “hell no”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:27 AM
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Female insecurity, ironically, comes from a total failure to understand men. A girlfriend gets insecure because she thinks that men choose girlfriends like women choose boyfriends (i.e. they think men have a choice). In a weird way, female relationship insecurity is a subtle form of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:25 AM
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Huh? Women LOVE LAN parties! (/s)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:25 AM
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It’s TikTok. Please get off TikTok. There’s nothing ‘real’ there….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:09 AM
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I’m in a high-risk/high-reward profession….the odds were against me, and no one (myself included) could have known that I would make it when I was 25. Also, when I say I’m in better shape now, I mean it. I’ve been lifting religiously for years and massively increased my protein intake. At 29 I was depressed, had a super long commute, and didn’t even own exercise equipment. I was in ‘ok’ shape (leftover from when I was working out from 26-28), but I am in MUCH better shape now. Not everyone is Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:04 PM
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I've never in my life liked a woman MORE because she was difficult. If Sydney Sweeney walked into my life and threw herself at me I would prefer that to a hot-cold "hunt" or battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:05 AM
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I didn’t plan on being better in my 40s, but it happened. Career improved, status went through the roof, became more interesting and more worldly. I’m in better shape at 39 than I was at 29. My experience is not universal, but neither is it particularly rare. Loads of men hit their stride in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:32 AM
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If the first step is easiest for you (when it is the hardest for most men), then you must be REALLY screwing up somewhere. Are you weird? Can you carry on a decent conversation? Improving your sociability is probably all you need (that and likely growing up some…).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:32 AM
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Because women don’t love individually, they love based on what that love does for (or says about) them socially. A man seems “hard to get”? That means he’s high value IRRESPECTIVE OF LITERALLY ANY CONCRETE METRIC. It’d madness, but you already know that….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:27 AM
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Nah. If you were consistently pleasant and attentive it would work far better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:25 AM
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I’m not gonna lie….woman #3 honestly made me laugh. You should have told her your father was a lizard, and that your hand is actually growing back, it just takes time….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:03 PM
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I’m so sorry to hear about all of this. To be honest: I’m not at all surprised on any account (I work a lot with the army in my country, so have known many people with all sorts of serious injuries…it’s brutal on so many levels).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:02 PM
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A BMI of 25 seems kind of low, doesn’t it? I have a BMI of 22.5 (just checked). I’m lean and relatively muscular (for my small frame). I’d love to put on a bit more muscle, which would very likely tip me over 25 BMI. I’m not a gym fanatic, I just workout at home. If I am at risk of being overweight then the system is clearly broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:56 AM
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“Too high” = cannot get dates or relationships. I know loads of beautiful women that haven’t dated in years, and are miserable for it, because they won’t give any man they know a shot. It’s like addiction: it only becomes a problem when it becomes a problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:51 AM
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Above all else women want what OTHER women want. They want a trophy to make other women jealous. That’s why so many are height-obsessed (it has nothing to do with “feeling safe”, since physical altercations are extremely rare for mos people, thankfully).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:32 AM
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I have a pretty large LGBT friend group, and have a close friend (an ex, technically, from a very long time ago) who is a strongly woman-preferring bi. My take, from the outside, is that W-W dating culture is VERY different (and takes a stronger stomach than I have, I’ll tell you that). Communities tend to be small and tight-knit. Everyone seems to have dated everyone else at one point or other. So, you gotta be relatively respectful and resilient, because win or lose the woman you’re seeing at …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:21 AM
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Yeah, I mean...who can be attracted to someone who is functionally a child? (wait, don't answer that!!!!!!) ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:57 PM
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On average something like 84% of women wind up having children. Of the remaining 16% at least some will not have had children due to homosexuality (that's a solid 3% right there), others due to illness that effects fertility, others due to just not finding someone, and a remainder of 'childfree'. I'd be shocked if the number of voluntarily childfree, straight women was higher than about 5%. (Yes, some people that have children wish they didn't, but it is impossible to work backwards and know if …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:56 PM
2

You’re right, women do massively over-think things. They’re always 18 steps ahead instead of ensuring the next step actually gets done correctly, and on time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:09 PM
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In my last relationship I always felt like I had to do/plan EVERYTHING, or nothing would get done. It is exhausting and, worse than that, it kills attraction. The problem is that there are a whole lot of lazy people out there who are quite happy to be ‘led’, rather than have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:57 PM
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Then don’t watch it…take your ADHD pills and stare at the wall instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:54 PM
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What bollocks. The VAST majority of women would say that they would not be happy in life if they never have kids. Does that mean that women do not see their children as ‘people’? C’mon! “You say you want companionship!? That’s so dehumanising!” What utter nonsense. I honestly cannot tell if this is trolling. Or if you’re just completely disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:49 PM
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Are you planning on dying in the next 90 minutes? If not, you can start the video, stop when you have to stop, and pick it up again (if you want), later when you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:38 PM
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One man = all men! Got it! (I think the vast majority of ‘housework’ complaints come about when two people have different standards….thats about it. One isn’t sponging off the other. They’d be living in a pigsty all on their own as well.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:26 PM
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Feminism has ALWAYS been an elite pastime. Of course the focus is exclusively on cushy, white-collar jobs….
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:05 PM
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I stopped reading at “irregardless”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:41 AM
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I mean, it is linen….it’s going to be wrinkled! That’s sort of unavoidable. I suppose I put time into thinking about it at some point in my life, but I tend to have seasonal uniforms (like a lot of men). It requires little thought, day to day. (I do think I dress better than most men, but I’m also biased!)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:19 AM
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You would say that I tend to dress ‘formally’. In the summer (since we’re talking about shorts) I normally wear linen trousers, a linen shirt (assuming it’s warm enough), and some loafers (normally suede). Would this be acceptable, even if I had been “wearing it all day”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:28 AM
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Both of your last two paragraphs are basically about the nobility anyway…. (Sappho didn’t exist? Malintzin rose from slave to practically a queen through her own merits, as much as anything else. What is ‘greatness’ anyway?)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:34 AM
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Almost everything by you listed under the female column is stuff you would have done ANYWAY, regardless of if you had a date or not (you might just slightly shift the scheduling if said things). Women do not go through a 10 Things I Hate About You glow up every single time they have a date…..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:29 AM
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Wrong. The complaints about the amount of effort expected of a man is entirely about the extremely high failure rate, not ‘our intentions’.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:26 AM
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If you think planning a date is like mad libs I don’t know what to tell you. Each date (particularly early dates) need to be hand-crafted to the specific person, the season, the vibe, your location, your respective schedules, etc. etc. WAY more goes into even a simple date than you’ve seemingly imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:22 AM
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How are cargo shorts “low effort” compared to literally any other form of trouser (short or long)? They are all functionally identical from an ‘effort’ perspective. (I say this as someone in a colder climate that maybe wears shorts 2-3x per year)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:18 AM
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This is wrong on almost every level. Until VERY recently the vast majority of men did not “choose their profession”. They were filthy, uneducated peasants/serfs/slaves that had little to no control over their lives. Women were valued, yes, for their reproductive capacity, but also for their labour, same as anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:08 AM
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Exactly how much does a man need to know or care before it ceases to be “objectification”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:05 AM
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“Objectification” discourse is fundamentally about women not understanding (and ultimately hating) men. Men see a hot woman and want to have sex with her. It’s that simple. No matter how many times we try to explain this to women they refuse to listen. It’s so straightforward (like MOST male things) they can’t believe that we actually think like that….
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:04 AM
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What EXACT amount of care and knowledge is required before someone is no longer “objectified”? Do I need to know the name of your first pet? Care about your performance at the school play 20 years ago? Do I need to know your last name?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:02 AM
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Both my long experience as a teacher, and conversations with the college doctor, confirm that university students are much more sober than they were even just 10-15 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:41 AM
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Don’t forget, society as a whole treats you better if you’re in a relationship (especially a long-term, committed one).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:41 PM
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+1 Made me chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:48 PM
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Men and women can be friends, but it usually works best if there is some kind of obvious barrier to being anything more. I’m a short man, and I don’t think it is an accident that all of my closest female friends tend to be VERY tall women. There is obviously no possible interest from either of us, so we can safely invest in a real friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:12 PM
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For the millionth time…what is ‘autistic’? The word is way too thin to really mean anything without SUBSTANTIAL context. I’ll say this: if your friend is ‘autistic ‘, but can hold down a professional job and make good money….then he has no excuses. If he was non-verbal living in a group home, then that would be different, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:11 PM
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NO ONE is 'single by choice', outside, potentially, of elderly widows. 'Single by choice' is pure facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:10 PM
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It's a good thing you're 'Sapphic' (god, I hate how pretentious Gen Z is with their endless neologisms).....because men do not feel attraction that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:09 PM
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Mugsy Bogues was an amazing ball player! That doesn't mean the NBA is full of 5'3" players.... Exceptions prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:05 PM
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Your value TO YOURSELF diminishes, because of a loss of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:57 AM
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Hahahaha What!? No. Chad gets snatched up right away. “Good men” sit on the shelf because they aren’t “exciting” (i.e. tall) enough….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:12 AM
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The struggle is not real….it is entirely self-imposed. The vast majority of men I’ve seen struggle in love are perfectly stable, have decent jobs, are sort of average looking, and would be kind, loving, and supportive partners. Many of them not only struggled but have been VERY long-term single, because women don’t want stable….they want ‘exciting’.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:30 AM
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This is sort of my understanding. At least among university students sexual activity (and drinking, and smoking) is WAY down from previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:24 AM
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Millennial here. I never actually tracked when sex came…it came when it came. I guess after a few dates? I did a lot of OLD in the past and first dates were always much more reserved than they would be for people I met naturally. We were still strangers, after all. I tend to go exclusive very quickly (2-3 dates), although I don’t discuss this with the other person, and I do t expect them to do the same (although they generally do….I think this is fairly standard in Europe?). The discussion of ‘w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:22 AM
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The women here are extrapolating one thing they did, one time, for one person and act like it’s comparable to the day-in, day-out service men thanklessly render to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:00 PM
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I’m not interested in casual sex, and have turned it down with very beautiful women. No judgement on anyone that likes it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:54 PM
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How often are you hitting someone, or being hit, in any context whatsoever? I don’t see how this is a realistic situation for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:21 PM
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I’ve never really dated around. “If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:17 PM
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At least in West Africa polygyny seems to be VERY common, including among younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:19 PM
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Nature….finds a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:39 PM
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Women are very choosy, but once they’ve made a choice they seem to feel a DEEP need to constantly validate their choice, no matter how self-evidently good or bad it was….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:21 PM
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I agree with the OP. If society was simply straight with men about what is desired and expected of them everyone would be happier and healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:27 AM
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Stop reading Jane Austen and start reading actual history, produced by professional historians….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:26 AM
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Discriminating on the basis of sex or race is also a crime in most countries. Even if it (or murder!) wasn’t a crime is that your basis for morality? The legal system? If so, you have a very low, and unfortunate, bar for ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:24 AM
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I could not disagree more strongly. While the ethics of the porn industry are dubious (to say the least), it is vastly preferable to the trauma that prostitutes endure. Also, in times and places where prostitution is open and permitted it is NOT expensive. Think military brothels, early modern Europe, or modern day Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:23 AM
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Ok, so how do you account for Islam? One of the world’s largest religions (and likely to be THE largest religion soon), with a deep history of polygyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:20 AM
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Should a Lakota man be legally able to kill whites at his pleasure without punishment? I mean, sure, it sucks for his murder victims, but an individual death is not nearly as bad as genocide, right? Would that also be ‘just balancing out’?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:23 AM
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Nice try! Maybe if you twist other people’s words enough you might actually win an argument one day? Women should be held accountable for both accepting and rejecting men, based on the circumstances and outcomes. Accepting (with a bad outcome): woman likely made a poor choice that was easy to suss out from the beginning. Accountability means accepting responsibility and, at least in theory, trying to do better in future. Rejecting: if a woman winds up alone, or with far poorer options than she s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:19 AM
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There is not a deep history of arranged marriage in the west. Women could have varying levels of restriction on them (based on the time and place) but they were not “chattel”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:11 AM
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‘Enforce musical chairs’? Can you explain this in English, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:58 AM
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Before porn most frustrated men would visit a prostitute. The advent of porn is a MASSIVE step forward, for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:54 AM
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I know a handful of delusional women (friends, mostly) who are long-term single by choice. All others are basically always in one form of relationship or other (or are settled down). I know LOADS of men who have been long term single against their will. So, yes, OF COURSE finding a relationship is easier for a woman. It is a direct, downstream consequence of women having it easier finding more dates. More dates = more opportunities = more relationships. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:24 AM
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I don’t know Southern Africa at all, but in West Africa polygyny is still very common. Voluntary polygyny is the purest form of hypergamy so, yes….women in poor countries are absolutely hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:13 AM
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“Stretched”? That sounds….painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:25 PM
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I would classify this as troll behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:43 PM
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I’ve never really understood how to measure a penis. Do you count the curve? Do you draw a straight line through the air from base to tip? All very mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:39 PM
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Sadly, I assume the number of men posing as women on here is probably even higher than that (lots of men are fucking weird, not gonna lie).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:38 PM
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A teacher in a one-room schoolhouse in the middle of nowhere "does not design the education system"? THEY ARE the education system! Also, you're wrong. The modern, Western education system has much deeper roots in Revolutionary France than Prussia. We can thank the Germans for modern universities and several of the big 19th century social sciences....but not for education up to about the age of 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:06 PM
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Where did I say 100 times a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:04 PM
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"Source: was a frat boy." Honestly, this explains A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:02 PM
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Western society has been reverting to the historical mean (which is to say: a two-class society with a small number of winners and a vast quantity of losers) since the 1980s. As this trend continues we should expect to see the social dynamics that dominate extremely unequal societies: namely, polygyny. Out and out polygyny will be hard to normalise due to legal restrictions, but de facto polygyny is likely already here, and things will only get worse from here on out. If people were concerned ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:01 PM
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You say education was 'designed by men', but women have dominated childhood education for a LONG, long time. Go look at almost any school photo from the 19th or early 20th century.....chances are it's a woman at the front of the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:55 PM
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Men trying to get hired in some fields face overt discrimination. This doesn't fully counter-balance all of the struggles women face, but for the men in those fields it is life-changing (in a bad way).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:53 PM
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That's a fairer framing of things (albeit needs a caveat re: breakups/divorce....someone who dated one person seriously from 27-32 but then broke up is hardly 'leftovers').
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:43 PM
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Good job failing at math and reading comprehension at the same time! "The idea of a woman approaching 40 without having found someone to marry is overwhelmingly an educated, professional sort of phenomenon."....this does not mean that a majority of professional women are single. It means that women who are pricing themselves out of the market are disproportionately educated professionals. Now, they may only represent a minority, but it's a larger minority than among other populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:40 PM
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100% "Remove reason and accountability.....". Still true, decades later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:07 PM
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So...no Canadians?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:04 PM
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his is very cultural. Money is HUGELY important in some cultures (most of Eastern Europe, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:03 PM
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Nice dodge! Leagues obviously exist (even if they are not hermetically sealed), and the general size of the human population is sort of irrelevant when the vast, vast majority of people will date and marry people who already lived within 20km of their house.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:49 AM
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Leave my friends alone? Do you have friends? Do you understand what friends are? Try going outside once in a while....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:08 AM
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The human population is irrelevant. You don’t have access to 99.9999% of people on Earth. They live in a different country, speak a different language, move in different circles, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:05 AM
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Being in a relationship does not preclude fucking other women (cheating).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:03 AM
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This is very context specific. In my circle (high academia) the vast majority of 30+ year olds are unmarried. Settling down in your 20s is more of a rural/suburban/non-cosmopolitan activity. (Which is not to say it’s a bad thing….people in those settings often lead perfectly contended, if not very rich, lives)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:59 AM
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A lot of this is geographical. For whatever reason red pill frameworks tend to reflect major urban areas more than anything. I don’t know any rural or suburban women who are facing ‘the wall’. They all settled down young. The idea of a woman approaching 40 without having found someone to marry is overwhelmingly an educated, professional sort of phenomenon. Yet, I don’t get the impression that most red pillers are in that same demographic. It’s all a bit of a conundrum to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:56 AM
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I don't know what other people do when they're not working/sleeping/eating/fucking. Personally, I have hobbies. I play music, work out, learn languages, etc. Even if you are having daily (long, drawn-out) sex that still leaves 14+ hours to fill with other activities....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:30 PM
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If someone gives you a compliment then take it. Don't overthink it. Rumination is the cause of the vast majority of psychological distress in the developed world. Rumination is a choice. Be strong, and don't give in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:28 PM
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All three of my sisters married in their mid-20s. So did virtually all of their friends. In provincial/suburban parts of the developed world people still marry young (I fled...couldn't stand the inanity of it all).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:26 PM
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Daily sex has got to put you in the top 1-2% of adults....it is NOT the norm, even for young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:04 PM
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If it’s quality you want then you’re missing culture and sophistication….not wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:17 PM
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Good quality clothing is NOT FLASHY*. Get some damned fashion sense. *Unless you’re Middle Eastern, Chinese, or South Korean….different cultures play by different rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:13 PM
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This is culturally dependent. Taking care of yourself in Europe (i.e. how you dress/look) will attract similarly put-together women. It might be harder in North America or the Antipodes where the culture is SO casual that there aren’t many subtle ways to display class without seeming culturally out of step.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:13 PM
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How do you dress? Do you travel? What’re your hobbies? There’s countless ways to subtly advertise your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:11 PM
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Almost everyone settles. It’s not a big deal. The very idea of ‘settling’ is the worst part. People overcomplicate this and have silly, fairy-tale ideas about love and life. Do you like someone? Do they like you? Good. WTF more do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:08 PM
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Well, I don’t much care what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:24 AM
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“Anglo-centric” means “English-centred”. This conversation is not “Anglo-centric” (although it may be “white” centred, like most of Reddit tends to be).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:00 AM
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I’m not sure how useful population-wide metrics are. After all, the ‘median’ man doesn’t go to university at all. The vast majority of people in every society are poor and struggling, and people in that position tend to marry and reproduce young. I would imagine people on PPD tend to be much more educated than average, and also better-off than average. So, that’s the crowd we should be focusing on. At least in my circle “age-gap” relationships are the norm. Usually 4-6 years, with the man being …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:55 AM
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Bald is absolutely NOT a universal insult. Loads of men look great bald, and many women actively prefer bald men….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:49 AM
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Grey hairs can (!) make a man look experienced, powerful, and distinguished. Grey hairs usually just make women look old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:47 AM
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100% biology, and it has everything to do with fertility. While sperm quality declines with age a man can still easily conceive until MUCH later in life than women. It’s not even close. It makes perfect ecological sense if men to be more physically attractive at older ages than women. Imagine if we were another species….this wouldn’t even be a debate, it would be self-evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:46 AM
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I do not like in the United States. Yes, I agree, you people are mostly fat (I don't understand why).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:35 AM
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Well, I hope you have a nice life in the provinces.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:35 AM
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Life is WAY more complicated than that. My last girlfriend, who I had planned on marrying, had a massive psychological breakdown and moved back home. No one can plan for something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:34 AM
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....sweaty? hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:11 AM
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Can't you talk like an adult, "fam"? Anyway, I hate trite axioms like this. Almost everyone works hard, and almost everyone is prepared (at least in my milieu). Yet, their outcomes in life have been wildly divergent. The successful ones try to rationalise it ex post facto in a way that makes it seem like they 'accomplished' something...but had the dice rolled a different way they'd be out of the profession, possibly destitute, etc. Just world fallacy is the ultimate salve of the egotistic and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:04 AM
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Luck is great decider in life, PERIOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:01 AM
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Not true. I've improved as I've aged, and was never particularly athletic. I gained status, influence, culture, and refinement. All of which help in dating (at least in my circles).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:58 AM
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People always reduce it to 'money', but that's silly. It's "status"...money is just one possible vector.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:57 AM
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It's not a 'stereotype'....it's reality. It cuts across time, and place, and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:55 AM
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Studies have proven you false. Most men find MOST women attractive. It's women that only like the top 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:53 AM
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I don’t think young women’s standards are too high. I think that for some (too many!) there is a severe mismatch between what they select for and what will ultimately make them happy. This causes all sorts of weird dynamics that wind up making dating worse for the vast majority of people (men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:50 AM
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Charisma absolutely exists. I’ve been told I’m charismatic, and it has undoubtedly helped me punch way above my weight class.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:43 PM
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Pure cope. I know you desperately want to paint yourself as virtuous, but what you describe is paper-thin. You’re shallow and want a trophy instead of a partner. That’s ok! Most people are just like you, so you’re in good company.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:24 PM
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Well, clearly not….even though I think they’d be happier if they at least tried. I’m sure eventually they’d meet someone that surprised them. (I love that you, a stranger on reddit, think they might be able to better explain MY friendships to me….utterly bizarre)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:19 PM
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It’s not a binary: single or “committed relationship”. The status “dating” exists for a reason. If you were dating someone even if just for a few weeks or months, then you weren’t “single” in any meaningful sense of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:17 PM
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How is 'playing a video game' the same as 'a lifetime of financial struggle and penury'? Is there a cut-off on the quantity of gaming? 5 minutes per month? 5 hours per day? Does ANY quantity of gaming, of any variety, equate to being 'low income'?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:58 PM
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That's not semantics; it's a joke. Anyway, no grown up man should ever be wearing 'baggy shirts'. You're not a child anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:51 PM
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I will admit: it’s funny how many women I know who’ll say “I’ve been single for two years!” apparently forgetting all of the men they’ve fucked and texted along the way…. I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:34 PM
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This was an “all things being equal” statement. But outside of a few edge cases where people gained a bunch of weight….no. The men I know have almost all improved with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:01 PM
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Clothing is pointless? I sure hope you live in the tropics....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:13 PM
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Yes and no. If you find yourself in highly social settings frequently you can get a sense of how things work and bend to it. My social circle is pretty rarified. Very few people are born into it….the rest of us have to learn the arts of high conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:37 PM
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Fewer options, not “less”. Women’s option are NOT increasing as she gets older. That’s absurd. Best case scenario is things more or less stay the same for her (and even that is very rare in my experience). Do you see the difference? For many men time improves them. This is very rarely the case for women, who usually just try to stave off decline (which hits them a full decade earlier than comparable men, give or take).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:31 PM
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Because they do care. They’re miserable. If they didn’t care about/were happy with their situation, then I wouldn’t be concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:29 PM
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The OP might be half-right, but only due to perverse circumstances. The vast, vast majority of sexual misconduct is never reported. Very few women are willing to put themselves through the wringer only to have a marginal chance of ‘success’ (and even ‘success’ does not necessarily bring closure). So, an out-sized number of brash, unstable, or otherwise strange women take their claims public….exactly the demographic most likely to seek profit from a falsified claim. It’s sad, really. The vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:22 AM
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Hopefully your son’s teenage years go smoothly. We had similar concerns with my brother (who is now in his 20s), and his teenage years were actually pretty easy. Because he sat outside of all the normal high school hierarchies, and was quite happy doing his own thing, he arguably managed those years better than most!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:42 AM
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It’s relevant because it makes you more interesting, better able to hold a conversation, and a better candidate, all around. This is obvious, and you know it…,you’re just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:43 AM
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You’re being ridiculous. If you have money you can often do things that enrich your life (travel, hobbies) that you might not be able to do if you had less money. That is not “paying women to spend time with you”…..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:25 AM
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Maybe men don’t in your area? In my area (cosmopolitan, Western Europe), men absolutely make an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:13 AM
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More than a few, I’d say! I always wish I could take of these self-professed “autists” and get them to spend an afternoon with my brother and ask them if they really, truly feel like they have the same condition. Maybe it would shake at least a few out of their self-serving delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:08 AM
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Nothing says “I’m not independent” more than saying “I’m strong and independent!”….which has kind of become a mantra, has it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:00 AM
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Because women are the sexual selectors. Men are not. I have loads of 30-something female friends who are on an express train headed towards an very unhappy middle age because of their ridiculous standards. It frustrates me to no end, because I can see the Wall rapidly approaching, and they can’t, despite my urging them to get out there and go give some guy a chance. I would never tell them they are going to “die alone” (obviously), but I do find their situations sad, and very much of their own m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:57 AM
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I love that “gamers” is in there with “low income” and “lives with their parents”. Utterly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:49 AM
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I don’t know a single man that is less attractive at 33 than he was at 23. Not one. I’m in my late 30s and my options have only expanded and improved. I’m still fundamentally the same person I have always been, but now with added status and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:48 AM
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Another example of assuming all men are Chad. Most men I know would (and did!) happily settle down with the first decent woman they possibly could. For some this means marrying their high school sweetheart, for others it meant settling down in their early to mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:45 AM
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First off, you do that for yourself, to improve your chances of finding a high value mate. It’s hardly charity. Also, are you suggesting men don’t do those things? In terms of raw hours per week a man MIGHT even do more (if you include gym time).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:40 AM
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Punch above his weight? Sure! I know I have. “Do extremely well”? No. Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:36 AM
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Bollocks. “It’s all just attitude” is pure cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:34 AM
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Finally!!!! This 100%. My failures, and my successes, in life have almost all felt totally beyond my control. I think people tend to internalise everything as a way to feign control over life….basically as a coping mechanism. In reality, life (and existence) is so insanely complex that you’d be surprised at just how little REAL control you have over most of your life circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:34 AM
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You really have to pinpoint what you mean by ‘autistic’. It is a term that has been stretched to absolute breaking point, in my view. Case in point: my brother is autistic. He will never live independently or be able to hold down a full time job. He sure as hell isn’t on reddit, complaining. It is beyond him, and his abilities. The vast majority of people I know who claim to be autistic are utterly normal people who sometimes have slightly odd personalities. That’s it. It’s an insult to people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:28 AM
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Then clearly you’re not wealthy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:22 AM
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Personality is WAY deeper than “how you act”. You can control how you act in a time-bounded way, sure. You can’t properly control “who you are” in a deep sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:22 AM
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I do not control your rate of pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:09 AM
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What more situation do you need? She’s stuck in a washing machine. The only solution is to have sex. Clearly. Don’t you appreciate art?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:17 PM
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Complete and utter bollocks. Most women I’ve dated like to make suggestions, but ultimately like their partner to be the one making decisions. I don’t know why this is. It is certainly not anything I ever looked or asked for….its just the dynamic that they prefer (so I comply).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:48 PM
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I wouldn't call Slovenia "rich", and she left when it was still in it's deep 1990s, post-Cold War/post-Yugoslavia malaise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:49 AM
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For me it was all about finding my element. I am basically non-competitive in the general dating market. In my niche, however (very highly educated, cosmopolitan internationals) I'm an absolute killer. Within this circle I have relative prestige, relative good looks (despite being short), and am in much better physical shape than most (since very few men in these circles invest in gym time). So, by comparison I'm a much better match than I'd be in other settings. You gotta find your niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:46 AM
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I've found that a little calculated pettiness can go a long way. "Oh, she took a while to text back? Well, than I'll make HER wait, too!" Or "She's being a bit stand-off-ish? Fine, I'll ignore her and do my own thing." It's stupid, and I absolutely hate doing it....but it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:24 AM
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Is Melania a 'western woman'?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:22 AM
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Even the term 'interracial couple' feels hopelessly dated. I haven't heard anyone use it in a serious way since maybe the 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:21 AM
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What if he's wearing it ironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:48 PM
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"There are no unattractive behaviours, only unattractive men." This is an old adage, and mostly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:48 PM
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I’m not trying to be mean, but can you massively narrow it down? Meaning, are you looking for a time and place where ‘men had it worse’ structurally, or just for a period of time? Most severe wars are worse for men than women (even though civilians, as ever, do the bulk of the dying in most wars)….but that’s not necessarily structural.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:05 PM
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What exactly would 'a lot more horrible for men' even look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:24 AM
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I would be careful with rushing to consider elite women. What the elites did through history is so rare and distinct from the rest of their societies that it is arguably not all that helpful in understanding societal gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:06 AM
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Before the mid-20th century most people didn't have bank accounts, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:04 AM
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Put another way: the entire framework of 'oppression' would not make sense to most people in most other periods of history. It's like 'race'....a relatively modern concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:03 AM
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So much of this is dependent on when and where. Mississippian cultures (think Cahokia) were highly centralised, hierarchical, relied on mass slavery, and almost certainly were horrible for women. The cultures that followed, particularly in the eastern woodlands of North America (Creek, Cherokee, Iroquoian/Haudenosaunee, etc.) tended to be matrilineal (and in some ways partially matriarchal). These societies had defined political roles for women, and in many cases all physical property was techni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:01 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:48 AM
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Men don't select women. The whole framing is off. It's more that toxic women cast a wide net (more potential victims), and therefore suck up more men that would otherwise not have been considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:47 AM
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Businesses do not pay workers out of the goodness of their hearts. They pay what the have to to get the job done. There is no hard reason for productivity and wages to rise at the same rate (as they once did). Workers have to fight for their wages, always, and that fight is inherently more difficult when there are more workers around. (This also ignores the increased cost of productive capital, which partially explains why increased productivity has not seen corresponding wage growth….that combi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:21 PM
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Markets are not infinite. If you have a great donut shop opening up a second donut shop next door is not going to double your business….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:17 PM
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This has not even remotely been my experience. As I’ve gotten older my options have only expanded and improved. I look the same, but I’m much more confident/interesting/experienced. These things matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:14 PM
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“Picked on” means absolutely nothing. Did you struggle to find dates because of your weight? I VERY strongly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:58 PM
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Would men who stayed home be marriageable? It’s strikes me as VERY unlikely in the vast majority of cases. Make behaviour is heavily based on mate-selecting pressure (i.e. women create the incentives, and men react to them).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:57 PM
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You’re right about working class women, of course. I should have spoken more carefully to refer to more middle class/professional work. Everything else is basically semantics or tangential to the actual point. (Also, reread my post. I explicitly state that the emancipation of women is obviously preferable to what came before)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:55 PM
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More workers in any given field means lower wages. Period. You cannot avoid that. That does not mean that it is the only, or even the primary, cause of wage stagnation….but it is a cause. In the UK we have much more collective bargaining than Americans do, and yet our wages have fallen EVEN FASTER than yours. Collective bargaining is great, but it is not a panacea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:53 PM
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On an individual level, sure….not on a population level. It’s basic maths/economics. Also, the US middle class (which is what I assume you’re referring to), has actually contracted over the past 30 years, not expanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:50 PM
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Women entering the workforce is one of the primary causes of wage decline. (In balance, women’s emancipation is obviously worth that, but you also can’t deny basic economics)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:36 PM
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Any women who is at the low end of a healthy BMI is instantly in the top 5%. Period. Blaming it on body shape is just a way to dodge personal responsibility ('apple' is not a natural shape....it is fat, period).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:30 AM
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I live in Western Europe. We have homelessness and some 'gangs', but nothing like what you guys have in the US. We do not have a crystal meth problem, at all. It is literally the least-used drug in the UK (at least among the drugs that are tracked by the Home Office).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:29 AM
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Woman A is a unicorn. Basically doesn’t exist. (Almost all men are gonna choose A)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:28 AM
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You’ve never known serial cheaters? It’s the same thing, just outside committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:23 AM
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This strikes me as incredibly unlikely outside of very specific circumstances (say, Southside Chicago or Port-au-Prince).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:19 AM
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Wait, are you vaguely proposing a return to the Derringer? (Anyway, America is not the world. Most places don’t have your gun problems.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:17 AM
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“Experienced some bad behaviour” is kind of a low bar though, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:10 AM
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Fear of being attacked by a rando on the street is vastly overblown, and every single relevant statistic proves it. Almost all violence is committed in the home, by people whom the victim already knows (usually family, or relatively close friends and acquaintances). How safe a woman feels is very individual. I’ve known absolutely fearless women, and women that absolutely insist on being escorted home (or at least near enough). I’ve not seen a clear correlation between level of fearfulness and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:00 AM
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‘Nice’ meaning benevolent is good. ‘Nice’ meaning subservient generally isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:51 AM
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This is completely wrong. Do you even know Plan Escaut and Plan Dyle!? No, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Look at the French army positions in May 1940. How on Earth could you think they "Assumed Germany would respect the neutrality of the Low Countries".....when the core of the French army is BASED IN THE LOW COUNTRIES!?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:36 AM
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Nope. It’s dead easy: just put down the fork. That’s it. Men get in shape by hours and hours and hours of hard work in the gym. Women just have to not eat. That’s it. One of these is not like the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:40 AM
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This is the reality of the vast majority of hetero relationships. Because men are not the sexual selectors they effectively “get what they’re given”, and have to make the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:35 AM
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Fewer options, not ‘less’.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:33 AM
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You’ve dodged the question, so this conversation is over. Enjoy your ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:45 PM
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I know ugly tall men who kill it….I’ve never known an ugly short guy to have much success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:43 PM
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I think this is massively overblown as well. Most Americans are fat, out of breath, and inside…,glued to their screens. They’re not pouring into the street to hunt people from “the other side”. Also, the chances of authoritarian control in the US (at least, more authoritarian than the US gov’mt already is) remains, thankfully, very unlikely. Authoritarian control needs control of the military, and almost always the leader comes DIRECTLY from the military. I don’t see any such figure in America t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:42 PM
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“It should be a choice”? What utter nonsense. Without conscription the US likely loses BOTH world wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:40 PM
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People are stupid. Civil wars, particularly in bureaucratised states, are not fought because "people don't like each other". Civil wars are fought because one group of elites feels threatened, or slighted, or thinks they may be able to grab power and so they make a go of it. That's it. For the United States to have another civil war you would need elites to raise (functionally) private armed forces and either try to supplant the reigning US government, or try to violently secede. Neither of thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:19 PM
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So was Germany winning in 1943? Or 1917? What does 'winning' mean when divorced from the actual (and unknowable) outcome of a conflict?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:14 PM
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I've been told, to my face, that I was too short more times before my 25th birthday than you will EVER hear that you're "too tall". If you're 6'3" and not killing it that's your fault. You were born on third base.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:13 PM
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What women did you post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:12 PM
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A poor person can become a millionaire! Exceptions prove the rule. Everything in the universe is probability, and short men are fighting on the wrong side of probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:11 PM
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You’re literally allowed to like big boobs though. No one cares Bollocks. Woman in an office: "I prefer tall men" (no one cares) Man in an office: "I prefer large breasts" (STRAIGHT to HR!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:10 PM
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Having emotions is not the same as letting emotions rule your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:08 PM
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50% SAY they don't care....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:06 PM
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I assume a handsome but short man will draw fewer eyes than a handsome tall man, but probably more than an ugly tall man? Nope. Not in my experience (as a short, and relatively successful, man). Handsome tall > average tall > ugly tall = handsome short > average short.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:06 PM
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Tonnes of lesbian relationships work (although lesbian community dating culture can often be fucking crazy, due to everyone swimming in the same small pool).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:04 PM
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No, it doesn't make sense at all. The vast majority of people living in industrialised countries will NEVER need 'protection'. The short doctor would provide vastly more real protection (money) than the tall bouncer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:03 PM
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This has been my experience. When I started getting really into fitness I had women straight up ask, "Oh, so like, are you compensating?" I assume for every 1 that actually said something like that at least 30 were thinking it. I just like working out...I hadn't ever considered my height in relation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:02 PM
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"Just date ugly women!" ​ Wow, great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:59 PM
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I would be a little careful with a study showing that, since the designations of 'underweight' and 'healthy weight' are themselves cultural constructs. The vast majority of people I know who are of 'healthy' weight are not healthy, by any stretch of the imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:56 PM
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Nah. I've known loads of women who have been very overt about their strict height requirements (and have lived up to them). ​ As a short guy myself you learn, from a young age, that a majority of women will never even look at you. You gotta focus on the minority that will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:54 PM
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It's ok, man. Next time just go up and talk to him. Maybe he's noticed you, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:52 PM
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I do not live in America. Countries other than America exist. Did you know that? Why would I get my information from 'the US propaganda machine'? ​ Ukraine has lost ground and is having manpower issues. Yes. If you think Ukraine is 'losing terribly' you cannot read a map. ​ You do realise that wars are not sports, right? In most sports you can tell at any moment who is 'winning' and who is 'losing'. War does not work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:49 PM
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You don't need nuclear weapons to commit genocide (and I cannot think of any nation, anywhere, that committed simultaneous genocide-suicide). ​ All nuclear powers have fought wars since developing (or receiving) their nuclear arsenal....and yet nukes haven't been used since 1945. ​ Take a huge step back and use your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:47 PM
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......America is not in an existential war. You're telling me if a massive Chinese fleet appears out of the blue (impossible, I know, but work with me) and invades California the Americans would respond with 'special operatives'? Are you that daft?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:46 PM
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What do you mean by 'attack'. Words matter. ​ If a few NATO soldiers get killed incidentally, nothing happens. If a non-Baltic NATO member is invaded? Sure, all out war. If Russia decided to tap Tallinn instead of trying to capture Kyiv....I'm not at all convinced that NATO would've done anything. It would've been a fait accompli.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:45 PM
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I fucking hate this. Easily the greatest land army in Europe for about 450 years, they lose ONE war (by being too aggressive!) and dumb Americans who don't know anything calls them 'surrender monkeys'. ​ Learn some GD history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:43 PM
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I don't see that happening in America where most young men have guns and the social contract has been sufficiently broken. This is ludicrous. First off "most" American men do not own guns. Secondly, you MASSIVELY downplay the reality of living in a patriotic country in an existential war. ​ France in 1913 worried they would have huge problems with people avoiding conscription (socialists, pacifists, etc.). It didn't happen. At all. People recognised the threat, and they fulfilled their duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:41 PM
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This is insane. Conscription has always, and will always, be essential in major wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:37 PM
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The first whiff of a major war brings back conscription. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:37 PM
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It's called conscription. Men wouldn't actually have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:31 PM
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An American civil war is even less likely than WW3.... ​ Why waste time with ludicrous hypotheticals?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:31 PM
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WW3 means mutually assured destruction. No, it doesn't. If this were true then EVERY war would've been genocidal, and humans would've gone extinct long, long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:30 PM
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"Have failed to defeat Russia" ​ In 1916 the Entente had 'failed to defeat Germany'. Should they have negotiated and walked away?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:24 PM
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This is crazy. ​ 'The economy' is far too abstract to talk about in a singular way. The first thing that war (or any major dislocation) normally brings is MASSIVE inflation. In both world wars living standards PLUMMET, and in some cases stay low for a full decade after the war ended. ​ Yes, war is good if you happen to own a munitions factory. For almost everyone else it tends to cause MAJOR issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:21 PM
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America is the only country on Earth? Awesome! Who knew!?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:19 PM
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You.....really should read some actual history. Women in the world wars in most countries were not 'relying on men'. They were in employment and receiving government compensation for their husbands' service (since the vast, vast majority were married).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:18 PM
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To say nothing of Rome (both times!)...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:15 PM
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Median age of Ukrainian armed forces is north of 40. ​ You're NOT too young to be drafted....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:14 PM
1

Article 5 would not necessarily have to be invoked, don't forget. There are countless examples of shooting conflicts in history that never rise to the status of 'war'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:08 PM
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How is "Putin winning" in Ukraine? No one is winning right now. It is a war balanced on a knife-edge that could, very easily, fall in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:06 PM
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Not necessarily. There's no guarantee that nuclear weapons would be used....and, in fact, it's very unlikely they would. ​ The vast majority (well over 99%) of wars fought all through human history were 'limited wars'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:05 PM
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This is insane. There is no WW3. How would that even start!? You don't have the alliance system that was fundamental to WW1 and WW2. Old-style territorial aggrandizement is widely discredited, and attempts at it (Ukraine) have been bloody, and embarrassing failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:04 PM
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if he's a nice man, why would he leave his country to find a woman more vulnerable to partner with than the women back home? Are all non-American women 'vulnerable' in your mind? I live in the UK and haven't dated a British woman in well over a decade. Is that a 'power dynamic'?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:37 PM
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'Alcoholic' is MUCH deeper, culturally, and is not offensive in anything like the same was 'gay' was used. 'Gay' as a general pejorative didn't last more than 20 years (probably more like 10-15). It was functionally slang....'alcoholic' isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:25 PM
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If you honestly think people in the streets are going to start saying 'alcohol use disorder'....I really don't know what to tell you. Normal (i.e. the vast, vast majority) of people are not even going to say 'alcohol addiction'! They say 'drinking problem' or 'alcoholic' (or 'drunk'). ​ Most people are not downwardly-mobile, millennial, college-educated, would-be PMC.....those are the only people that feel the need to constantly rewrite language from the top down, rather than allowing language t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:51 PM
1

I do vastly prefer petite/small-hipped women, to be fair. ​ They're not anorexic....they're just not American (i.e. not morbidly obese like the rest of you).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:40 PM
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You don't live in the real world, do you? ​ How old are you again? Can't be more than 24-25 with that sort of disconnect....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:55 PM
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It really isn’t, though. A penis can get a victim pregnant…a hand cannot. A penis can transmit STIs, a hand (usually) cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:28 AM
1

All true, but the threat of pregnancy and STIs sure creates a concrete distinction between penis and non-penis, does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:23 AM
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How would it let them off the hook? You’re making a mistake of assuming “penis” to be the standard and all others to be a reduced sentence. You could view forced penetration as the baseline and forced penetration with a penis as baseline+1, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:22 AM
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Language doesn’t work like that. While the culture in some (highly educated) circles almost never use the word ‘rape’ anymore, the fact is that the word still has broad purchase and is immediately understandable. It’s a heavily loaded term, but in some form or another it will be around for a long while yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:08 PM
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Would you lump in penetration with the penis the same as with a finger or a foreign object? To my mind the penis should almost always receive a harsher sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:03 PM
2

For every study that says women pick up more chores and “emotional labour”….ask who is spending more time at work and earning more money? I’d far rather do the dishes more often and cry a bit rather than having to bust my ass at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:14 AM
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For every study that says women pick up more chores and “emotional labour”….ask who is spending more time at work and earning more money? I’d far rather do the dishes more often and cry a bit rather than having to bust my ass at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:14 AM
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Nah. Men are afraid of splitting the first bill because we think it’s a shit test (and, let’s be clear….it usually is!). Better to be safe and a little poorer than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:11 AM
2

This is purely cultural. In places like Eastern Europe the dude pays. Every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:10 AM
1

I don’t think you understand “numbers game”….at all. Men play a numbers game because 99% of the time we’ll be rejected. Each (rare) opportunity is special, because there’s so few of them. So, yes, for a man asking you out it ALWAYS means something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:09 AM
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In what other country do women frequently ask men out? Not in any country I’ve ever lived in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:07 AM
2

These aren’t the 1890s…no man has ever looked at a woman and thought. “Mmmm, nice hips!”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:52 AM
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I’m an American socialist living in Western Europe. I tend to find I get along best with somewhat conservative European women. I’ve considered dating left wing European women, but they tend to be unhappy and have lots of mutually exclusive goals and beliefs within themselves, leading to a fairly confused and often chaotic existence (which is not something I tend to see in American ‘liberals’, who tend to be somewhat more coherent).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:38 AM
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This is true in America. In France unshaven armpits are more common and, thus, less controversial (still a minority, though).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:29 PM
0

How old are you? You sound like 21-22… (i.e. a child!).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:19 AM
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Fair enough. I was still living in California so....no one really had sweaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 11:19 PM
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A lot of this is geography and culture dependent. In my circles (highly educated/cosmopolitan/international) gaps of 5-10 years are very common and as successful (or unsuccessful) as relationships closer in age. In particular, 6-7 years rarely feels like a gap at all. Especially by late 20s/30s. If you live in a smaller world (suburban/exurban/rural America) I could see even 6 years being harder to pull off. People’s worlds are a lot smaller in those types of communities, so the small distinctio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:36 PM
1

Yep, same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:26 PM
1

Same here. The people I know that engaged in a long string of hookups are almost all severely damaged (men and women). They were not what I would call “good people”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:22 PM
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Sweater Man? wtf? Like…Cosby?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:17 PM
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I think you’re taking the language analysis WAY too far. Humorous online terminology does not translate into real-world behaviour (in the same way that engaging with fantasy tends not to crossover into reality, particularly for men….something women seem incapable of understanding). The M/W complex doesn’t exist. It’s more Freudian gobbledegook, we would all be so much better off if we just dropped the idea altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:00 AM
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The idea that people only listen to the music that was popular when they were young is….weird. Do you even like music? I’m in my late 30s. I don’t sit around listening to Pearl Jam and Nirvana all day (in fact, I tend not to listen to 90s music at all, preferring much older jazz). It sounds like you live in a very small, sheltered environment where everyone shared the same, narrow culture and the only variable is age. Try dating someone from a different country….they’ll have no idea wtf you’re o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:08 AM
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Because cultural pressure means that some women who would otherwise be a good match will wind up being pressured away from someone they actually like because they’ve heard that “age gap” relationships are inherently bad. “What women think” has a massive impact on society, for better and for worse….so addressing and engaging with it is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:58 AM
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We’ve not established just what an “age gap” is and you come in with that!? I’ve had some people say 5-6 years is an age gap (when it really isn’t, to me), other think only 10+ years (and even that doesn’t seem weird to me at all, once the younger party is in their mid-20s or older).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:48 AM
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It's not a linear progression, and you know it. At the 'desperately poor' end birth rates jump, because Eff-it, you're screwed either way. Unless you're suggesting Europe should allow itself to become desperately poor then you really don't have a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:26 AM
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I am a professional historian, and have been for decades. I have published multiple books and articles and teach at one the greatest universities the world has even known. You are a rando on the internet with links to unscholarly sources. One of these things is not like the other. ​ The Renaissance was an incredibly narrow, contained phenomenon barely reaching beyond the elites of a small number of city-states in northern Italy (and eventually universities in places like England, Poland, France,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:52 PM
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Press ‘x’ to doubt…Klein have never done a good, let alone ‘great’, podcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:59 AM
1

Pay teachers more and more people will want to be teachers. The fact is that salaries in the UK are way too low, full stop. Our cops make maybe 1/3 what their American counterparts make? A friend of mine is an Oxbridge professor and has a child attending high school in the US….they qualify for needs-based assistance in the US system, based on their respectable UK salary. The fact is this country has committed economic suicide over the past decade-plus and there is no hope of fixing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:57 AM
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First off, $54 billion is nothing. You’re talking 5% of what the US annually spends on defence. In exchange for that 5% the US and Europe have dramatically improved their global standing (showing that we still have real teeth, which is best way to fend of future wars), helped defend a sovereign nation from invasion (keeping territorial aggrandisement in the black box of IR where it should stay), and have seriously degraded a main rival army. It has been a BARGAIN from any rational strategic pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:22 AM
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I’m sorry, but NO ONE is talking about “population collapse”. That’s a ludicrous framing of the situation. Maintaining a population of 7-8 billion seems eminently wise, rather than pushing to see how far we can go before Malthus has his revenge. (Already life is just flat-out harder than it was 50 years ago, when the population was smaller….shouldn’t that be a hint!?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:12 AM
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What you’ve described has almost NEVER happened in history. The vast majority of economic, social, and political systems in history had nothing even remotely approaching a “professional class”. Wtf are you on about? Also, global human population was fairly static for most of recorded history. Explosive growth has only occurred int he past 200-300 years. Signed, A historian
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:03 AM
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Imagine if we didn’t have a safety net….birth rates would be EVEN LOWER.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:00 AM
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Fewer people….not “less”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:57 AM
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Yes, because Europe is SUBSTANTIALLY poorer than America. I am above the 95th percentile in earnings in my country and in the US I’d maybe crack the the 80th? That’s a massive drop in income and standard of living. Even in a relatively wealthy Western European nation single income families are extremely rare (borderline non-existent), whereas they are still surprisingly common in wealthier parts of the US. House prices are higher here (relative to median income), etc etc Life in general is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:57 AM
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The planet is overpopulated. If there’s a fertility crisis maybe that’s a good thing? It’s like our genes saying “now is really not a good time to keep forever-expanding the human population”….?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:49 AM
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What in the fuck did I just read? Grow up, sir. Quickly. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:48 AM
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This is common advice, and it is necessary for breaking the compliment barrier (which has to be broken before the touch barrier, usually)….but has to be discarded, like most things, during escalation. If you tell a girl she’s gorgeous the first time you meet her, you’ve failed. If a girl shows up to a date all dolled up and you just compliment her earrings to avoid saying “you look amazing”….you’ve also failed (and probably outright insulted her).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:33 AM
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Casual touch is necessary (touching the arms/shoulder/hands) in ways that give you plausible deniability. If she doesn’t pull away then invite her on a date. If she says yes then go back to touching, particularly mid-way through the date, but SLIGHTLY escalate. If that works, you’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:31 AM
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If you have to tell a girl you like her you’ve already lost. Give up. The second tier of things (like “you’re beautiful”) are perfectly fine, necessary even, but context-dependent (like everything else). I’ve never in my life met a woman who didn’t like being told she was beautiful…this modern idea that you shouldn’t do it is dead wrong (and I have no idea where it comes from). As ever, it is about context, confidence, setting, culture, tone of voice, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:27 AM
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I’m not convinced “objectification” exists at all….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:37 AM
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Is this just a really long and convoluted humble-brag? Because that’s sort of how it sounds….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:30 AM
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Men have committed the vast majority (over 90%) of violent crime for centuries (and probably for much longer). Yes, men really are more dangerous, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:23 AM
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I'm late 30s, myself; but always liked jazz. The LDR version.....is not even in the same league as Nina Simone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:35 PM
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Have you ever heard Nina Simone’s “The Other Woman”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:33 PM
4

Working on yourself should never stop. Flatlining is hardly distinguishable from death.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:08 PM
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I fundamentally reject that distinction between self-improvement and “putting yourself out there”. Both should be happening at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:06 PM
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I think it’s mostly fake/online. I’ve never met a straight polycule (obvs in LGBT circles things are very different anyway, so we’ll set that aside….even then it seems rare).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:03 PM
1

….five minutes alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:18 AM
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I couldn’t disagree more. Most people, men and women, are WAY too damned lazy and complacent. Self-improvement shouldn’t stop until you’re being lowered into the ground (or, more likely, shoved into the furnace).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:49 AM
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I honestly find it scary how poorly women understand men. If you’re even vaguely attractive then ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of your male friends want to bang you. Period. Also, for the vast majority of men, there is no real difference between “banging” and a relationship. Only the absolute elite can make those sorts of distinctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:37 AM
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I hate this talking point. Being sexual and being loyal are not mutually exclusive in any way, shape, or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:28 AM
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Blue collar men are doing fine? They are literally the only group in the industrialised West that have a declining age expectancy….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:04 AM
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You’re “literally wealthy”, but have a poor command of English. You moved the goal post from “date or marry” in your first post to “genuinely attracted” in your second. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:48 AM
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Have you ever stepped out of your apartment? Have you ever met a trophy wife? (I’ve known several) Yes, wealth can massively move the needle (especially REAL wealth, not “they eat at the slightly nicer chain restaurant” wealth).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:46 AM
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You need to be VERY careful with statistics like this. The terminology used tends to be very broad, which inflates numbers by adding in a huge quantity of very minor cases. Also, since the vast, vast majority of rapes (I know we’re supposed to say “sexual violence”, but the term is simply too vague to be helpful) are committed by someone the victim knew ahead of time. How this translates to “being afraid to walk at night” I have absolutely no idea. I’m not saying people (in general) shouldn’t th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:33 AM
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Why don’t poor people just stop being poor? The vast majority of men have ZERO options. We literally have to take whatever we’re given, and then try to make the best of it. Even relatively successful men might typically have one, and only one, option at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:25 AM
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Without knowing your age or circumstances this is a completely pointless post. Not considering men over 40 when you're 23 makes a lot of sense. It makes less sense if you're 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:17 AM
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Yes, I mean relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:11 PM
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Yes and no. In the only setting where the wall makes real sense (professionals living in major world cities) post-40 men are in much higher demand than post-40 women. Professionals in these cities (Paris, London, New York), tend to look after themselves better, but reproductive biology still exists….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:21 PM
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There are a lot of factors you’re not considering. The “wall” stereotype is very much a cosmopolitan, professional woman sort of trope. There just aren’t that many of these women around in the first place, if you look at hard numbers, and most provincial people marry younger, and consequently nearer in age, than cosmopolitan city-dwellers. Anyway, the wall is real, even if the way it is fetishised is definitely a weird sort of revenge fantasy (i.e. BOTH things can be true, which seems like it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:19 PM
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I always took “I went just for the food”, as a self-protective facade. If she doesn’t like him, or if he doesn’t like her, she can shrug it all off (internally and/or externally) with “Meh, I just wanted the food.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:22 PM
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Ok, but my personal tastes have no changed. You can’t extrapolate from what fashion companies sell to women to what men “like”. Men like what they like (usually, young, slim women), and usually don’t get too fussed about how they dress. You have to think deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:20 PM
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That….is so foreign to me. All of my romantic partners have been compromises in one way or another (and I’ve been a compromise to them!). Nobody is perfect (thankfully!), so everyone is a compromise, on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:13 PM
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If you lived in a part of the world with culture, style, and class….you would understand. Not everyone is an American living in culture-less suburban hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:34 AM
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I think people take art way too seriously. The presence of plump women in ancient art (which itself was made almost exclusively for a tiny elite) does not mean that that is what the vast majority of people actively chose and prioritised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:33 AM
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I don’t know any man IRL that has “changed their preferences to thick girls”. I think it is 100% an online thing….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:29 AM
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People get frustrated and have moments of weakness. Those moments, especially if they are ultimately low stakes, should not define a person. If you think a person is best summed up by their worst moments, rather than their best (or even their routine)….I think that’s a horribly sad way to move through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:47 AM
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Nonsense. There’s no such thing as a ‘true self’, and the internet is often just barely distinguished from thoughts inside one’s own head. We have all sorts of strange thoughts in our head, none of which are terribly serious. Have you ever stood by a train platform and imagine throwing yourself under the train? Almost every one has, and it’s not because they actually want to do it. It’s not some manifestation of their “true self”….its just a weird, passing whim. What makes it through all your fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:44 AM
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I’m a straight man. I’ve always had lots of female friends (even as a child). I have a weird built-in advantage though: I’m short. I have absolutely no desire to be with a woman who is noticeably taller than me, and she has absolutely no desire to be with me either! While this has downsides (massively shrinks my dating pool), the upside is that I’ve been able to enjoy many (true) friendships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:17 AM
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Are we not overstating this in the first place? I have never, in my life, had a girl go on a date with me “just for a free meal”. I’ve never had someone date me (or try to date me) just for my money. (Maybe I just don’t have enough to encounter this?) Admittedly, I’m not in America, but I do wonder if this problem is more of a meme than a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:52 AM
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I have NEVER known an old married couple (i.e. past retirement) to be 'flirty'. Caring? Attentive? Sure! But 'flirty'? No....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:30 PM
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You really want to be 'competing' in your 60s, 70s, and 80s? I sure as hell don't. Quiet contentedness sounds VASTLY preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:29 PM
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“Pick me” is just uncool, unfunny, bitter women trying to use social shaming to drag down otherwise amazing women. That’s it. “Oh, she likes beer, sports, and sex!? Such a pick me!” It’s laughable, and I can’t believe anyone fell for it. The world needs more “pick me” girls!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:40 AM
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Yeah, no. Still complete and utter bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:20 AM
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“A lot of men want to pegged”? Um, research on that? My guess is that it is a TINY number of largely porn-brained weirdos that want to be pegged. Well below 1% for heterosexual males. This idea that everyone (or almost everyone) is really kinky when they’re behind closed doors is pure cope (or perhaps fantasy?). Kink is kinky exactly because it is rare!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:19 AM
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Our experiences must be VERY different. I noticed a dramatic shift in OLD when Tinder came along. The simple dynamic of gatekeeping communication behind mutual selection made Tinder MUCH more effective than any of the older OLD services (I tried both in their prime). Personally, I did way better in OLD than IRL. I tended to operate in very male-dominated spaces (in both work and school), so simple exposure to women was always a problem. OLD basically fixed that for me (back when I was still usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:10 AM
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I’ll always hate “treated them like a roommate”….what does that even mean? Have you ever seen an old married couple!? They aren’t in list anymore, they act more like roommates. It’s a life goal, not something to break up over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:03 AM
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Rare, yes.....but in the real world examples that I know of the couples are actually very natural. No more 'transactional' than any other couple I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:19 PM
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This is not my experience at all. I've had women become more, and less, in love with me over time...it depends on the dynamics of the given relationship. I have never had, and will never have, 'love at first sight' because it's nonsense. It doesn't exist. This is teenager-like delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:58 PM
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Men are not like women. Most of us can be happy with most women. ‘Love’ forms when we get used to the eccentricities of one particular woman and develop a ‘need’ for them. It’s several phases into a relationship, rather than towards the beginning. The ‘vibe’ thing is very female. As a man I’ve dated a really wide range of women….any number of whom would’ve been perfectly fine, long-term matches. Any ‘vibe’ we felt early on, I usually had to create. The vibe we felt later on I usually had to cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:15 AM
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Hell yes. I gather this is more an American thing (you guys have crazy amounts of wealth lying around), but if I somehow made enough money to fully support a partner, I would be furious if I also had to do the same amount of chores I currently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:42 AM
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Going fat was his choice, though, and bald really isn’t a problem for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:37 AM
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WTF are you on about? Men (people, really) like partners that share their interests. This is hardly a revelation, and certainly not the gross tale of insecure domination you’ve concocted in your head….
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:25 AM
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You keep asserting “women’s standards have not changed” without any real evidence. People 50 years ago still mated within a hierarchy, but the communities tended to be relatively small….even if you were living in New York or London…and this has an effect of equalising out the distribution of mates (since there’s less likely to be a huge difference between a 10 and a 5), making it vastly easier for ‘average’ mates to find a partner, and very difficult for one high value man to date multiple women…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:19 AM
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Yes, “most”. 40-50 year olds are definitely in the hunt, but there’s far fewer of them (most are married by then), and of those few still looking even fewer still are in good shape, etc. However, if you are in your 40s, interesting, successful, and in good shape dating a woman in her late 20s/early 30s is not uncommon (at least in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:11 AM
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Where did I ever suggest that women (or anyone) should be 'forced' to marry anyone else? In monogamous societies the number of leftover men tends to be small (and many of them wind up dying prematurely anyway, so the 'problem' is largely 'solved' without any real coercion needing, except for some respect for monogamous relationships...call that 'marriage' or whatever else you want). ​ 'Twisted' is not exactly a scientific metric, btw. I have no way of assessing that whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:03 PM
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I wouldn’t call it “collapse”. I’m not talking about post-apocalyptic North America….we don’t have to fall that far to see really severe increases in violence. You’re right, obviously, that violence (particularly organised violence) is highly multi-causal. No one would reasonably suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:54 PM
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Are you sure about that? Islamic polygyny is one of the most entrenched polygynous systems in the world….and the Islamic world has A LOT of spare, and very angry, young men to sacrifice to civil wars (primarily) all across the heart for the Muslim world from West Africa to Central Asia. (Obviously I am not even remotely suggesting this is monocausal….that would be ludicrous….but it is absolutely a factor.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:53 PM
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Monogamous societies are VERY rare in history (as are, interestingly enough, societies with anything resembling a ‘middle class’). We are in the middle of a reversion to the mean. Isn’t it exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:49 PM
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This is a highly presentist view of humanity. For the vast majority of human history we had weak states (sometimes bordering on non-existent), and even weaker judicial systems. Yes, modern bureaucratic states are able to corral their excess male population through effective coercion (China is probably the best example), but these systems do not have limitless power. I know we all want to think that times of lawless brigandage will never return in what are today industrialised countries, but hist…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:47 PM
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Have you ever studied history? Polygynous societies everywhere have had this problem of leftover men. I’d do better pointing out the exceptions rather than trying to provide “proof”. Feel free to google “polygyny and violence” or read up on any polygynous raiding culture (the Tuareg, Mongols, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:43 PM
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Adding “brothers” in there was unintentionally hilarious…. (I guess someone has to help step-sister when she gets stuck in the washing machine….)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:38 PM
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He’s actually right. Societies with large numbers of single men tend to be much more violent and much less stable than more monogamous societies. ….and those spare men literally do turn to brigandage in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:38 PM
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This is dead wrong. Wanting a partner is as natural as natural can be. It’s not “entitled” any more than wanting food, shelter, and clothing is “entitled”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:37 PM
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Your third paragraph is bang on. A friend of mine who’s been ling term single (bar a few brief situationships) was told by her Eastern European mother: “Just make sure he’s nice, hard-working, and thinks of the future. Everything else will work out.” My friend scoffed at this simple wisdom and her situation has not improved. Now, was the mom’s recommendation anodyne and overly simplistic ? Sure! But there is also a lot of truth to it…. All of us could be happy with a pretty broad range of partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:33 PM
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I have to disagree with “women’s standards haven’t changed much.” I know far too many beautiful women in their 30s who’ve been single (and some of them more or less dateless) for YEARS. These are all professional women living in major urban centres that I’ve met one way or another. They’re friends of mine. I want them to be happy and to find someone. Every time there seems like a potential match I encourage them to give the guy a chance and see where it goes….every single time they start produci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:28 PM
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“The wall” isn’t about a woman’s ability to attract “a” man…it’s about her ability to attract “THE” man. (I mean, it is primarily about fertility, but even if we use a broader definition it is still at least a partially valid concept)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:01 AM
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Coming up with a priori tests for a potential mate is a strategy doomed to fail. Why not just treat men like human beings?
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 08:32 AM
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This is a wise woman, right here. Most men want to be providers. The last thing a provider wants is to be provided for.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 08:29 AM
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Bollocks. No one, anywhere, is giving a woman shit for wanting a man slightly taller (and definitely not for wanting a man who is 5’6”). Either you’re not being honest with yourself (and actually have been rejecting guys who are 5’6”, 5’8”, etc merely for their height)….or you’re just trying to score pity points.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 08:11 AM
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