Danube27 Archive

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-1	South Korea politician blames women for rising male suicides You can argue both i suppose, but I'm preety sure the "living in harmony with society", everyone is a cog in making the country/company/family great and stepping out of line, acting unlike your ancestors, is considered perverse is a core of Daoism. And it is these values in particular that are making S. Korea so dysfunctional. Confucianism was an evolution on daoist values back in the day, but those values remain as the true core of social mentality in these parts of Asia. Considering this I fee…	/r/MensRights	12/07/24 04:37 PM
0	South Korea politician blames women for rising male suicides South Korea is not like the west. It is the worst example of daoist traditionalism meeting corrupt oligarchy rule. The worth of an individual is placed on building a family, under extreme peer and parental pressure. Men are expected to support entire families on their own despite a declining economy and women aren't welcome in the job market once they have children. What has happened is that instead of blaming the system, a lot of young men went on to blame women for these expectations and a lot…	/r/MensRights	12/07/24 04:22 PM
-5	Any Asian based men's rights here ? Would like to have a discussion about false stereotypes on Asian men . What kind of Asian men? Devoted Muslims, serious Taoists, Conservative Indians or just the mostly secular? They are not all the same.	/r/MensRights	11/07/24 07:53 PM
0	“Daddy day care” National Geographic perpetuating stereotypes against men Oh and adding to this, I'm originally Eastern European (not exactly a progressive place), and even there, a decade ago, I would argue a healthy percentage of fathers were indeed involved in parenting extensively, based on my observations. So I suppose daddy daycare is quite a few years out of date.	/r/MensRights	27/06/24 01:20 AM
0	“Daddy day care” National Geographic perpetuating stereotypes against men I suppose most fathers I know are heavily involved in parenting, usually less than the mothers but still often and consistently. I assumed nobody would take "daddy DAY" so literally as to understand fathers are there just one day every once in a blue moon. But perhaps you're onto something and enough people see it this way that this name perpetuates a truly negative stereotype. Or perhaps not, I'm not sure. Renaming it wouldn't hurt regardless, just to be safe and not using the term daddy daycar…	/r/MensRights	27/06/24 01:13 AM
4	“Daddy day care” National Geographic perpetuating stereotypes against men This post is a little over reacting. They aren't perpetuating a particularly harmful stereotype. Yes men parent less often. We shouldn't deny that fact and fight injustice where it happens, in child custody court cases and the like. I think showing dads can be loving is a great message. (I question the choice if penguins but alas) Sure, the radical feminists complain about similarly little things. You don't need to match their pettiness.	/r/MensRights	27/06/24 12:53 AM
-2	Aside from that first comment it’s very telling to see which statements are upvoted and which are downvoted If we're talking about walking outside (be night or day), then yes you should go do more research because that is blatantly false. If we're talking about getting into physical scuffles of no fault of their own in a more general sense, then there maybe some truth there. Once again, sources pending. If we're talking about men getting hurt due at least in part to their own aggression, then yes. Women need more protection then men do. Wether they should receive that additional protection I suppose c…	/r/MensRights	17/06/24 04:17 PM
16	Misogyny, racism, gatekeeping and hypocrisy have no place in the men's movement The reality is that you will get people like that no matter what. People with radical opinions can only see things their way and they will appropriate legitimate movements for themselves, oftentimes without realising that they are a minority in their radical view. I would just like to end on a positive note. 99% of the people I have met on the MRM have been lovely, supportive, people. I'd say that's more like 90%. But it's fine. It's natural that not everybody will properly understand what's goo…	/r/MensRights	10/11/21 12:19 PM
2	An appeal to all the feminist/anti-MRA lurkers here I'm sorry to hear you've got such a bad system for DV there in the US. But while this would deter men from reporting DV, I don't see what it has to do with whether or not some men ridicule others for calling out DV. And by what right do you speak for men? I don't have the personal experience of being a man casually discriminating against other men, but neither do you, I presume. Now, I could be wrong, but my experience tells me otherwise. And you can't blame conservative men for the man-hating l…	/r/MensRights	10/11/21 12:42 AM
4	An appeal to all the feminist/anti-MRA lurkers here I still doubt that misandry is an universal experience for all men in the west, but I'll freely admit that I grew up in Eastern Europe, so what do I know? "the fact some don't see certain things as discrimination" is exactly the problem I'm talking about. And I don't deny that it's unfortunate. Just cause certain men don't care about it doesn't mean they are in the right to deny justice to those who do. And by all means, I'm not trying to deflect blame for men's issues, away from feminism, onto …	/r/MensRights	10/11/21 12:19 AM
7	An appeal to all the feminist/anti-MRA lurkers here I'm assuming you mean the US. Surely you must be exaggerating. Sure people can say "kill all men", but if some dude out there only ever hears this kind of stuff second hand from the internet or tv, has a successfull career, has no openly misandrist friends, coworkers or superiors, and has a healthy relationship with the women in his life, then he's not really going to feel discriminated, now will he? And I'm sure there are plenty of men like that. And they were either simply lucky or lived in a …	/r/MensRights	09/11/21 08:18 PM
24	An appeal to all the feminist/anti-MRA lurkers here Feminism aside, there are no doubt men dragging other men down for bringing up men's issues. I don't know why, but my guess is some men have been privileged enough to not experience discrimination for their gender and think of men who did as weak. In some men's view, if a man got abused by a woman, he was weak and should be ashamed. If he wants parental leave he's also weak, cause only women should want that stuff and women are weak, no? If he complains about a men-only draft, he's a traitor to …	/r/MensRights	09/11/21 05:58 PM
2	I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans. You're really good at avoiding the actual conversation aren't you? Twice now you say something completely unrelated to the conversation. If you just want to preach, go ahead, I've got no reason to listen. You obviously have no interest in an honest conversation, so I'll leave you to preach to your imaginary strawman.	/r/MensRights	08/11/21 02:53 PM
0	I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans. Alright. Vid is irrelevant. Tried to find a few more papers, and they're all frankensteined from studies using different methods for measurement and different ethnic groups. They do adjust for BMI. I think the most relevant would be the studies over singular ethnical groups, say US, for example. Regardless, there does seem to be a decline in serum testosterone over the last 15 years of so from 19 to 17 nmol/l roughly at peak. Couldn't find and can't be bothered to look for studies that include m…	/r/MensRights	08/11/21 02:46 PM
2	I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans. Dropping in testosterone? By all means, please provide the source for this claim.	/r/MensRights	08/11/21 01:11 PM
0	I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans. First of all, who in the name of god are these friends of mine you speak of? Have you never had a conversation with someone who thinks for themselves in your life? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that this isn't simply an assumption you automatically make when you debate people so that you can use these implied and fictitious "friends" as strawmen when and if needed. Also you don't know jack about how I, or the friends you made up, were raised. Yes humans have developed an instinc…	/r/MensRights	08/11/21 01:02 PM
4	I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans. At some point you'll have to pull your eyes from the monitor, from twitter and from all this localised war of the sexes and look around you. Then you'll see that all over the world, be it America, Europe, Asia or Africa, be it a conservative household or a liberal household, being gay is not okay. Being a lesbian is not ok. Being a feminine man is not ok. Being a masculine woman is not ok. Nevermind being trans. Gender nonconformism is frowned upon by everyone. Regardless of their gender or poli…	/r/MensRights	08/11/21 10:33 AM
7	LGBTQ community started to speak up about misandry in some subcommittees. Awww, that's really sweet of you and I think he's really lucky to have you by his side. And I bet your acceptance of him as him and as a man, along with presumably his acceptance of you as you makes this relationship better for both of you. I fear too few appreciate or understand how much you can mutually gain by just being nice to others.	/r/MensRights	07/11/21 07:53 PM
19	LGBTQ community started to speak up about misandry in some subcommittees. Me too, girl! I might hate the idea of being a man, but that doesn't mean I have to hate men or that I can't care about them. There's such a double standard when it comes to calling out discrimination these days, on multiple axes. Which is specifically why the message that all irrational bigotry is bad is something I feel most people need to understand.	/r/MensRights	07/11/21 07:47 PM
7	LGBTQ community started to speak up about misandry in some subcommittees. Some transgender people might transition due to feelings that, as you put it, the grass is greener on the other side. This is of course is not true, or at least shouldn't be in a healthy society. And in their case, you're right that it'd probably be better for them to realize that they are wrong instead of going through with this. And having been treated like a second-class citizen due to your gender is often quoted by people who de-transition as the initial reason of their transition. This incl…	/r/MensRights	07/11/21 07:39 PM
22	LGBTQ community started to speak up about misandry in some subcommittees. >I've been called misogynistic for dating a man instead of a women. Lol. Wouldn't most women be misogynistic by that standard? Have we advanced to the point that you must be a lesbian to be a man hating feminist and nothing but the most radical form of feminism is going to be accepted by these people? To be fair, I find it pretty hard to be a misandrist when guys are so bloody cute. So I can understand why they'd try to get rid of those pesky androsexuals. Only the most pure form of TERF is allo…	/r/MensRights	07/11/21 07:23 PM
14	LGBTQ community started to speak up about misandry in some subcommittees. Absolutely. Men's problems and mental health affect more than men. There are plenty of people who care about the men in their lives and want to support them. Furthermore, I personally believe that men's problems are everyone's problems, regardless of whether they realize it or not.	/r/MensRights	07/11/21 07:04 PM
2	The UK trans debate really speaks to how little care is paid to men Well, I agree wholeheartedly that men should be allowed to break from traditional gender norms. Imposing these norms onto people that can't realistically follow them without feeling miserable is bound to create problems. The greater populace's inability to accept gender non-conformism is in fact the core driving force behind most gender specific issues. That is to say, there wouldn't be a women's rights or a men's rights movement without it. Not that radical misandrists and misogynists wouldn't …	/r/MensRights	30/10/21 10:53 PM
1	Male feminists are the true enemy. Not seen specifically this combo, but I can confirm white hate is real. We could discuss history all day, but taking it out on random modern day white people cause they are "privilleged" and therefore, in their eyes, shouldn't be complaining, is just awful.	/r/MensRights	21/10/21 09:26 PM
2	Male feminists are the true enemy. Why not? Why can't men not be reasonable feminists concerned with women's issues? Why can't men not be radical 3rd or 4th wave woke misandrist "feminist" simps, weaklings or self-serving psychos?	/r/MensRights	21/10/21 06:53 PM
3	Male feminists are the true enemy. I feel you. Terms like cis hets or the straights, especially when talking about men, take on derogatory qualities in most texts written by queer folk. It almost feels subconcious on behalf of these people, and while some of their frustrations here and there might be justified I don't think it warrants this level of discrimination. Not all of them are like this, but still. It certainly frustrates me to see this open and barely veiled low key hatred just out there and makes me embarassed to identi…	/r/MensRights	21/10/21 06:21 PM
-1	Female students at university flirt with older male professors to get what they want. How did you reach that conclusion? Look where I'm from, health insurance or not you HAVE to bribe the doctor. Don't do it and you'll be made to wait till dead if it's something serious. Need to have a construction certificate released? To bad, you HAVE to bribe someone or you ain't getting any. Would everyone refusing to pay stop this phenomenon? Yes it would. But why should I risk my health and my assets over this? Why should I blame the ones simply trying to watch out for themselves? Wouldn't …	/r/MensRights	18/10/21 10:53 AM
-1	Female students at university flirt with older male professors to get what they want. Probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but whatever. It's the professor's duty to uphold fairness among students. Knowingly obtaining an advantage over your peers through flirting is scummy at the worst. But giving in to these temptations when you hold a position of responsibilty is considerably more damning. This holds even whith the genders swapped, mind you. On top of that, flirting is one thing, but you can't stop pretty girls from being pretty. A select few might simply like older men, …	/r/MensRights	18/10/21 03:15 AM
1	I Don't Really Have Anywhere Else to Vent That's truly awful. It sounds to me like you aren't completely facing this alone, given that you have those whom believe your side of things. Please, for their sake, never give up on hope. But even if the entire world were to turn against you, the best thing would still be to fight on. I know my words might not be too reassuring. But, unlike her or people ready to take her word without proof due to superficial reasons such as claiming moral superiority, you have your life and your future to worr…	/r/MensRights	05/10/21 09:26 AM
1	I studied Feminism at college so you don't have to. (+ A First Person Perspective on the Education Gap) As someone coming from an Eastern-European country: Ouch, I can't believe my highschool experience was less gender biased than yours. I mean, we had no transition grade, so I'll just compare it to highschool. You'd think I'm from wife-beating territory, and as far as rural areas go, you wouldn't be completely wrong. But in some ways we've got our heads screwed on better than whoever put your education system together. I'm genuinely sorry you had to deal with that and couldn't get the mental heal…	/r/MensRights	03/10/21 07:40 AM
3	I studied Feminism at college so you don't have to. (+ A First Person Perspective on the Education Gap) I mean, it's not just Western culture, but yes, gender conformism has always been the core problem. There are significant differences between what men and women want from life, so there is nothing wrong with seeing uneven representation in certain fields. The problems arise when you get that one woman who seriously wants to go to university or to take political office or do any manner of what would be considered a man's job. Same for a man who'd rarher not risk his life at war or in a coal mine,…	/r/MensRights	03/10/21 07:25 AM
3	I studied Feminism at college so you don't have to. (+ A First Person Perspective on the Education Gap) My thoughts exactly. People are people and should be treated as such regardless of their ideology. You should develop your opinions on socio-cultural and economic issues and support them to build what you honestly think is a better world, not to use them as a way to place yourself on a pedestal and marginalize all who dissaprove. Instead of working together, debating on what is best and trying to pick the best insights from every side, ideas are simply being used as a way to paint sides. It migh…	/r/MensRights	03/10/21 07:04 AM
3	Masculinity is CRUCIAL I wasn't contradicting you. The usage of the term "toxic masculinity" by neofeminists and the like always frames things in such a way as to suggest all masculinity is toxic. And, as stated I disagree with that, and thus wouldn't use the term myself.	/r/MensRights	30/09/21 03:32 PM
1	Thoughts on Rudyard Kiplings "If" Yup. I' ve always thought of it as outlining a pretty good and complete ideal of what a man should aspire to be like. It's a high standard, but no reasonable person would judge you too harshly if you don't fully qualify. Nor should you be judged too harshly for not satisfying even a few of the verses, as long as you make it up through other respectable qualities, then again, it covers most things I could think of.	/r/MensRights	30/09/21 01:33 PM
7	Masculinity is CRUCIAL The way I see it, people can act in ways that harm others and are also self-destructive as a result of personal insecurities. This is what i'd call toxic behaviour. Are there insecurities specific to men and related to their masculinity? I think yes. Ergo, there is also a form of toxic behaviour brought forth from these insecurities, but toxic masculinity would be a misnomer IMO. It's more like a masculine toxicity. By the same logic, is there also feminine toxicity? Of course. Which is worse? I…	/r/MensRights	30/09/21 12:42 PM
2	Can men ever do “enough?” How do you deal? You don't. Find someone better who will love and/or appreciate you even if you can't be all of those things.	/r/MensRights	30/09/21 12:29 PM
0	I think a law should be passed that allows men to not become fathers Oof, I'm not sure how to feel about women being forced to get abortions by men. No, wait, I do, it sounds awful. But, I also agree that it kind of sucks for guys, because unwanted pregnancies aren't always their fault. (rarely theirs alone, even more rarely the woman's, most of the time both) Maybe some sort of right of demanding the woman to choose between abortion and taking full responsibility for the child, but I'm not sure how to feel about that either. I really can't think of a solution th…	/r/MensRights	30/09/21 12:21 PM