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I typically don't want a male wingman nor wingman for my friends. I think its a faulty setup. A confident individual will stand on their own when approaching. When I was younger I would try to wingman for my male friends and the woman they were interested in would be interested in me. It made for shitty situations. Ultimately your right. It does work and helps. I've found that bi or lesbian female friends are surprisingly better for it. I've just never went out with the intent that my female fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:49 PM
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I feel you. I just hope nobody including yourself is actually telling women to be your wingwoman unless it's in jest. You should be self contained enough for this to happen naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:35 PM
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This will not work if you value your female friends as only wingwomen. Women will do this naturally if you are genuine friends with them. Also, yes, it does establish social proof being around other women. However, It's dehumanizing though to use them with the express interest of having them be your wing-women. Just go out with your female friends and have conversations naturally. Also, your instructions towards women in this case has the smell of you've actually never experienced this. No woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:32 PM
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Look up body weight fitness. You don't need a gym to exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:41 PM
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If that person did lie then I am sorry for my response. Regardless, therapy and focusing on your purpose is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:41 PM
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Thanks for letting me know. Let him rot in his no sex having ass then. Fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:11 AM
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Please find whatever means you can to find professional help. Therapy is amazing. It can really give you the right tools to start building the life that you want. For real though. The way you see yourself and the way you treat yourself is way more important than the way women treat you. We are going through a societal shift and I also hope that more focus is put towards male mental issues. In the meantime, get off this sub and take daily action to do the things that make you satisfied as a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:09 PM
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If you're doing what you want to do then you are doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:58 PM
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I apologize that I put a stark impression upon you that you may be angry towards women. It was an assumption that I felt from your message. Real talk.. if you're doing something within this world of value that you can integrate other people, women will be there. No matter what. Could be hyper super nerd shit. You will be affecting people in their lives and gaining value from the experience. You will begin to show your skills to the world, no matter what it is, and people will find value in it. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:24 PM
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So, your comment proves that the struggle you're describing is entirely mental. There are neurodivergent, grotesque, basement dwellers that I've known since high school that were able to kiss a woman in their early 20s. You gotta come to a point of accountability with your ego. Maybe you like the idea of you being an incel? There's something in you that gets satisfaction from being rejected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:09 PM
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It would be cool if you described how this is misogynistic. Im single and Im for the streets also. I'm not looking down on them Im observing actions. They did the right thing by not pursuing anything further. We had a good time and I directed them back to focusing on their boyfriends and relationships in our conversations. Miss me with the vague insinuations.
/r/seduction07/10/22 06:15 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:58 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:15 PM
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This is the creepiest shit ever.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:09 PM
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Every time I go out I either go with a casual date or one of my bisexuality or lesbian friends. I don't go out too much with straight women in the friendzone. Everything is honest and top level. They're looking for women too and they help with a lot of the leg work of social proof. It's for real a cheat code and there's a lot less cock blocking compared to wingmanning with straight dudes. This works great with gay dude friends also. There's a shitton of possibilities but guys have a hard time lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:10 PM
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I always think that the guys who can't have genuine friendships with women simply do not have options. If the two female friends you have are your only options of course you're going to have a difficult time being strictly platonic with them. However if you actually have romantic interests outside of your friendships then the pressure to turn them romantic subsides and you can actually enjoy women's company platonically. I have multiple female friends that I've had for years. I hang with them in…
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:55 AM
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It also automatically vets you to other women and open up social groups where there are many times like minded women. It's a beautiful thing if you just chill, be cool and act conservatively to friends of friends that you're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:19 PM
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I don't say shit on the dancefloor. To busy looking into her eyes, busting a move and us touching each other. Take her to another part of the venue and game.
/r/seduction02/07/22 11:41 PM
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Openly talk about sexual things especially what each of you guys like. If you've escalated physically you can assume that she wants it. If you guys are touching and close kissing is assumed. You can ask or just go for it when it's obvious. You're asking because mostlikely you're not sure if she'll like it. If you escalated consistently then either you or her would initiate it and it's all good. I've never asked a woman if I can kiss her. I usually save kissing for after we're already rubbing on …
/r/seduction02/07/22 11:39 PM
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I agree and that's why I don't get these conversations. People are acting like 5 bodies by 25 is the worse of the worse harlots ever. It's ridiculous. This is mostlikely all coming from guys who can't attract women or relationships to pass the 3 body count mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:27 PM
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That's the thing. Humans have these qualities and most people can only see through their genders' lenses. We just express it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:50 PM
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So I've done this a few times before. Tell women that you have a small dick with confidence. Weird reverse psychology shit. Like really make them think you have a small dick. They'll want to prove it either way.
/r/seduction15/05/22 04:03 AM
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Personally, I feel that the friendzone is a good place to be when you actually have options. If you're really pining over a certain woman then you're mostlikely using her as an anchor for your own lack of self esteem. Personally I love my female friends. At least on five occasions they have qualified me to their friends and it has ended up in a lay. The key is to actually have abundance mentality. Not expressing yourself as a sexual being is also a big reason why you get friendzoned. What other …
/r/seduction14/05/22 12:29 AM
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Make sure you're doing it because you truly want to with him, not to just get a reaction out of him. Most dudes aren't worth this level of sauce.
/r/seduction13/05/22 11:32 PM
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This is creepy as fuck. Don't do it.
/r/seduction12/05/22 11:05 AM
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For real, live your life. Worrying about what a woman is thinking when you're not in communication or in person with her is taking you out of your personal frame. Talk to more women, add more fwb, and she'll send you a message soon. If she doesn't oh well. Allowing space for women to want you is good for the both of you.
/r/seduction12/05/22 11:04 AM
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Dude... fuck people. It comes with age but for real nobody is thinking about you. I use to feel the same then I began purposely doing weird embarrassing shit for immersion therapy in the game. Nobody cares man. Limiting yourself because of a non-existent maybe is not living. And truth be told, I regularly "fuck up" with women but I own my life and really don't give a damn and they don't either. For real tho. Fuck people. Who cares what they think unless they're paying you money.
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:04 PM
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Dude dancing, rollerskating, motorcycles and festivals are great networks to start working with. Just make sure to do it because yoy love it and start networking.
/r/seduction04/05/22 07:15 PM
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You gotta get out there and befriend solid dudes and women that are in larger quality circles in your city. Befriend some rich people with connections. I'm a 5'9 black guy in IT also but I am also a DJ and event organizer of over 10 years so I've built my circle for years. You gotta get out there. Don't undervalue having solid female friends. Don't get friendzoned but initiate friendzones to women that you're not the most sexually compatible with but have large circles of friends. It could be wo…
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:21 PM
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Totally, thank you for the honest response. There's nothing wrong with wanting to get laid. I've always found more satisfaction having women in my life that are dtf for years rather than one or two times. I have 3 fwbs in my city, multiple friends that I end up fucking a few times per year and around four women that I travel to or they travel to me when I'm in town (New York, Florida, and Georgia). Even when I got into somewhat long term relationships and didn't see any of them for a year they w…
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:53 PM
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It's just been my experience especially after doing this for 10+ years and 80-100 lays the sparkle of fucking a random woman kind of fades and fwb, plates and living a fulfilling life matters a lot more. Who cares if you fuck some random girl when hundreds ignore you regularly. Choose wisely, become the prize, and women will chase you if you're of value. I have circles of friends that vouch women for me because they know I'm single and down. When you actually have a functional social circle you …
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:51 PM
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It works if she's already attracted to you. It's also psychopathic behavior that makes you a shit person and creates a toxic relationship. You can actually just be a great dude with value without toxic crap and have women into you even stronger than that stuff.
/r/seduction03/05/22 09:23 PM
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Yep. Stop doing it. Find something situational in the environment for openers then screen her to see if she's actually quality. Beautiful women are everywhere. What makes her special?
/r/seduction03/05/22 09:19 PM
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So I'm on team never validate/compliment women especially if you just met them. This is a soft shit test to tell you that you're coming on strong. It's assumed that you think she's attractive because you're talking to her.
/r/seduction03/05/22 09:13 PM
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That's why social circle game and screening chicks before getting numbers raises success rates 80% at least. I haven't had a girl flake in a while because I take the time to screen well. Also, when chicks ask for your number, it's possible if you get them hooked, they also end up in lays 50%+. If you're just getting experience this is cool but it sounds like you're not actually building any relationships. Just touch and go. That makes flakes almost a guarantee.
/r/seduction01/05/22 11:19 PM
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Getting numbers is pointless if nothing 95% of them lead nowhere.
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:34 AM
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To actually have relationships with women. This is a good way to have a lot of women having nothing to do with you and destroying your social status. It's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:26 PM
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Then get numbers and vet. Kissing random girls and thinking that it's cool is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:04 PM
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Lol enjoy your mono dude. This sounds ridiculous. Why kiss if you're not escalating to dating/sex? Plus the amount of social pressure you'll receive when you're the guy making out with multiple women will get you kicked out of places long enough. This is not good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:09 PM
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I'm not a fan of making out at the club especially if she has friends with her there. Extract to another location, like another bar, then do the escalation or take her home straight from the club. You look like a fool kissing several women at the same club especially if you're laying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:14 PM
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It's so interpersonal that the implosion is just a general degrade of social relationships. There's no big reveal. Just more and more people are shitty. Protect yourself at all costs and be the best you can be is the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:39 AM
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I feel like it's definitely over 50%. Mostlikely around 55-60%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:05 AM
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I second this. I got into game in the Mystery Method days. Absolute bullshit. Then RSD started pedaling "Natural Game", which spoke more to me but didn't have actionable steps. When I started to just talk to women regularly and be sensitive to energy the game stopped mattering. I was able to be myself. It's still years of calibration that has to go on and I fuck up continually but... i can just live without micromanaging my psyche. Being infield, being aware, and learning from mistakes is the wh…
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:09 PM
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That's why the idea of "game" is inherently wrong. It categorizes and dehumanizes people. A lot of times too its an excuse for guys not to work out their own psychology. Being charismatic and being able to guide conversations shouldn't be attached to sexual outcomes. It's a fools game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:32 PM
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I agree with u/Westsidemoonwalker. You were trying to close coming from an entitled frame then judged them for not responding to you the way you wanted. I've found that older women are regularly more down for hookups without much hangup unless they have severe unprocessed issues. Women 30-40 typically take less work in my experience but they also want to be valued for who they are. Don't think that they're stuck up or have high standards because you got turned down. It sounds like your calibrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:35 PM
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Whoever offers the date pays for the date. If no women are offering to dates, which albeit most women aren't, then don't take women on crazy expensive dates. I haven't bought a drink for a woman I haven't already fucked in years. I feel like I need to switch it up for higher quality women especially on first impressions but it's dumb af to compartmentalize the bill for a date for some circlejerk of logical equity. Go to the park or some shit. I've had great dates like that. If you're talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:07 AM
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It's not a bad thing to have these feelings. In fact they're great. It becomes destructive when you attach it to an individual. Because mostlikely you're applying past uncovered desires onto this person. That disconnects you from actually experiencing the individual. That's why it's good to talk to multiple women. You begin to scramble your attachment and become comfortable with expressing it depending on your true wants from yourself. Completing that within yourself while continually working on…
/r/seduction01/04/22 04:35 AM
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"No we're real fun." "Well I can do that" "She doesn't do it but I do" "I like doing that" "I've done that before would you like to do it with me". Could be about literally anything.
/r/seduction31/03/22 03:50 AM
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Ugly men do not get laid very often. They can get laid however. It's not in absolutes. An Ugly guy can get laid a few times a year. If he has game and money it can rise. The 30% comes from disillusionment from society and the choice to isolate and not improve themselves. Most ugly guys do not get laid. They can though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:14 AM
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I've seen homeless trash get laid. A lot of times it's just a matter of being there for an extended amount of time and escalating. Yes ugly dudes get laid too. Don't believe in black pill crap. It's just harder. Having a mouthpiece goes a long way. They're not getting 10s though but there are a lot of ugly women that don't have sex that often. Also having a little bit amount of money and confidence goes a long way. Get some more female friends. What women "go for" is a lot more loose than what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:23 PM
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Ah gotcha, then spit that game boy. I'd pick a target and escalate with that one exclusively while having the friends validate whether she is worth being a partner. Coy shit like, "So she seems like a good girl but she's really bad isn't she?" , to her friends.
/r/seduction29/03/22 11:20 PM
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I'm not a homewrecker so I don't fuck with girls with bfs but you gotta call it out jokingly, "I'm just a piece of weed to you huh"? Then they'll qualify themselves and really see if you want to invest in this crap. If they qualify themselves have them do something you want them to do. Like make out with each other. If they do then they're invested in something else with you. Do this of course after heavy flirting and escalation.
/r/seduction29/03/22 11:09 PM
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I believe that it is a product of media. There are plenty, if not 20%, of women that will sleep with troglodytes with low social skills however a large portion of men would rather beat off to porn and create fantasies that justify their lack of self worth. I've come to the conclusion that a large portion of incels want to be to justify their ego. Even if given the tools and opportunities they would still choose to live a trash life. I say let them. They're doing what they want and they need to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:23 PM
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Fill most of your life, 80%, with hobbies and interesting things that have nothing to do with women. That's it. Live an interesting life.
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:38 PM
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A lot of people use game to overcompensate for their lack of self esteem. They use other people to, "prove", against their lack of self worth. Just use it to enjoy your life. If you're thinking about women more than 20% of the time you're completely doing it wrong.
/r/seduction29/03/22 05:34 PM
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Lurking and fucking. I come in and out cause the PUA community did me well 15 years ago.
/r/seduction28/03/22 06:13 PM
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Ay if you got it like that then do your thing brother. I thought you were working with not that much clout. My bad. You good man. I'm on that lazy shit. I have a hard time traveling more than 10 miles for pussy.
/r/seduction28/03/22 06:12 PM
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I'm on team vibe and body language with game while doing what the hell you want to do. Waiting for a woman's full yes takes you out of your own enjoyment of the moment. You can get signals all day but a lot of times it's not worth investing in. It's best to wait until you get a solid energetic vibe. At the same time I don't like to just give my energy to anybody. Having good peripheral sense helps but when a woman looks at me I either lock in and vibe from a distance until I want to walk over(ey…
/r/seduction28/03/22 05:00 PM
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Youre welcome. Exchanging signals and drawing her to you works 1000x more than walking up to a woman then grinding with her. Get creative with it.
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:56 PM
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Yea don't slide into girls DMs. Find woman in the real world.
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:48 PM
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I do the eye contact from far away thing and keep it locked. They'll look again and move in closer. Sometimes, in my mind, act like they're pulling me to them and I can't control it. Personally when I'm dancing with a woman I don't know I don't touch them at all. Just move my body with good vibes. Use my body with a push pull affect until they initiate touch. So many dudes go straight for sexual harassment on the dancefloor. Providing good energy while playing hard to get, for like 5 minutes, ge…
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:48 PM
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Stop giving women validation when they don't deserve it. You're putting the pussy on the pedestal and objectifying her making it impossible to connect. Be intense in how you express yourself, your wants, and your boundaries. Do not be intense in building an imaginary future with a woman you haven't gotten to know. Stop that shit. Its fucked up and makes women feel weird.
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:37 PM
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I'm 34 and two of my current fuck buddies are 38 and 52. They're both beautiful and take care of their bodies well. The 52 year old has been a yoga and fitness instructor for 20 years. Another one of my fwb is 28. Age doesn't matter.
/r/seduction28/03/22 06:15 AM
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When getting shit test by other girls it's best to joke it off. Like, "Yea this is our third date", type bullshit in a joking manner. Don't fall for women's gotcha questions. Joke it off and engage the whole group while escalating with the one you're choosing. Chill for a while then extract to another part of the bar/club to have a one on one.
/r/seduction27/03/22 04:16 AM
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Dude for real, even looking at them and caring is on that simp tip. Appreciating the woman infront of you.
/r/seduction25/03/22 03:36 AM
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It's all the same shit. People like the tunnel vision to make it seem special.
/r/seduction25/03/22 12:10 AM
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Most women that are bi are lesbian? I mention incels because typically incels bring up this topic because they've never been friends with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:09 AM
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It's the same for a job. You never want to overextend yourself from the start because your boss will expect that output from you regularly. Steady and smooth as you build on your baseline of congruence. Keeping it between 40-60% is a good place to be. After time and experience your 60% looks as dominant and confident as most guys 80-90%. Savor the flavor is what one girlfriend told me.
/r/seduction25/03/22 12:07 AM
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Well statistically that's true but that's a red herring when people bring it up in this context. You can date one gender exclusively while being sexually attracted to all gender types. So bi people still can never have friends? I have lesbian friends. Is our friendship okay because of their sexual orientation, is it okay because they're bros or is there always an underlying sexual attraction. I just feel like this whole topic is the fever dreams of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:42 PM
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Yea that's why I think the term is just an amalgamation of people's projections instilled by society. The whole word is bullshit imo.
/r/seduction24/03/22 11:37 PM
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From one perspective, a lot of women are reflecting what they want in men so they think it applies to what men want in women. I chalk it up to a lack of communication between everyone. On the guys' side, men, just like women, have difficulty expressing their boundaries or really considering what they want in a partner. People literally don't know. They just see something then place their gambles. Self awareness is rare but the only thing to rise out of this. The key is to express your wants and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:36 PM
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This is the checkmate that people who ask that question never seem to consider. It's a fallacy from the start. People are just caught up in hereonormative policing of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:30 PM
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Outside of these echochambers nobody gives a fuck about unscientific alpha/Beta binary. Having the means to relate and have experiences with a large amount of people while having belief in yourself is way more important than what incels talk about online. I realized a few weeks ago that I need to slow down my personality sometimes. I'm not intending to but I subconsciously do the dancing monkey.
/r/seduction24/03/22 11:24 PM
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I think I'm about to give you a cringasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:24 PM
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Can you cringe one more time for me?
/r/seduction24/03/22 09:22 PM
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Have you shot your shot?
/r/seduction24/03/22 09:17 PM
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Keep up the cringe riding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:15 PM
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On to the next one.
/r/seduction24/03/22 09:05 PM
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I give myself a humble brag post a week.
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:56 PM
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I agree with both of these. Mine is that you have to be some sort of Alpha or dominant all the time to get with women. My mannerisms and the way I express myself is very androgynous. I dress like a dude but who I am is very fluid in my expression. I'm not an alpha bro. My dating and sex life has been just fine for a while. It may not excite certain type of women but a lot of women that I'm attracted to, both feminine and masculine women, respond well to the way I express myself. There's also bee…
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:33 PM
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Keep strong King.
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:07 PM
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Are you her boyfriend? If not don't give a shit. Most women of somewhat quality has dozens of dudes sliding into her messages. You're the one she's with right now. You're winning. There is no competition when you keep your frame.
/r/seduction24/03/22 07:54 PM
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I do not think women are lesser at all it was within the context of the conversation. The shadowy aspects of men I feel are more damaging on the physical world than women and the gatekeeping of keeping the dangerous men safe is baked into society especially if those men have power. Women are just now flexing these manipulative muscles publicly but men have been actively practicing within society for thousands of years. The pendulum shift makes the shadowy part of women more noticeable but the ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:45 PM
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Thanks for this. I'll lean into my fellow brothers more and initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:45 PM
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I've been living this rule for over a decade and it works great. If you look at a woman more than once always approach. Even if it bombs. Always do it. Don't get off on checking out women without approaching. That's creep behavior.
/r/seduction24/03/22 06:41 PM
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It comes from filtering your true self. Nobody is special out here and to limit who you are because of anybody sucks your energy away. When I'm in groups of people that don't know me I express myself as a confident sexual being as much as I would my female friends. It centers congruency amazingly. Hell just over the last 3 months I've gained 2 fwb from a female friend speaking positively about me repeatedly. Literally had to spiy zero game and now they're both regular. It's fulfilling. The whole…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:28 PM
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I believe that for the good guys out there it is orders of magnitudes worse. Many men don't openly express it though. Do you think it's worthwhile to initiate convos like this with male friends more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:17 PM
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Almost all of my female friends I've know for over a decade and have had sex with at least half of them. I treat them like the bros and typically when we go out I make sure that they invite their friends that I have potential with. It's a conscious decision to have these women be my friends because I don't want to fuck them but they are pleasant to be around and they have mutuals with the larger party scene in my city so they regularly provide social status for me. I am also a continuous flirt w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:09 PM
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One male friend in particular now we have been regularly having deep conversations about past relationships. He's been helping me also get over a narcissistic ex of mine. I feel as though all people suffer from the modern dating scene. I've actually had deeper convos with my gay and lesbian friends about these topics over the years than my hetero female friends. I've noticed though that when speaking with men about these topics it ends up turning misogynistic because a lot of men have difficulty…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:56 PM
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Isn't it weird being the cool guy, that isn't beta, in female social groups? It's wild. Its like they're hungry for the chance to be feminine and supportive but in their regular day to day life they treat a lot of men like disposable objects. I enjoy sitting back and laughing at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:46 PM
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Yes, the women that I'm seeing are very attractive to me. I'm concerned about my female friends more in the context of representing the whole dating market which is personal interest of mine. I'm not attempting to help or save any of them. It's just a good sample size of what's happening overall. I use to care about my friend's dating habits personally because I saw that many times simple actions caused them pain repeatedly. After learning that you really can't change anyone at all I simply resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:34 PM
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I guess I'm pretty purple pill because I regularly have amazing relationships with women. Sexual or non-sexual. I see the shadowy parts of female nature as a sad attempt to find means of power within society yet the medium to which they do that is almost solely squared on their vagina which is a losing game I feel. As a man, living a full life and intentionally making interactions with everyone significant helps me navigate through this modern dating cesspool without too much negativity going my…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:50 PM
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Tell them when things start getting, even in a joking matter, "we're not having sex tonight". Women do this all the time and it's a good technique when flipped against them. You have to have solid frame though. She'll begin to do work in order to actually have sex. Reverse psychology shit.
/r/seduction23/03/22 08:57 PM
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Don't mention it and have a good time the next time you see her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:25 PM
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This is the way, soft pullback while keeping attraction and physical touch high. Even do the, "we're not having sex", head game that women hate so much. It makes them want to rip off your clothes.
/r/seduction23/03/22 05:07 PM
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Yep. It takes you out of the creep move of scanning the room for some prey. I see so many guys do this and it raises the chances of them being blown out exponentially.
/r/seduction22/03/22 09:39 PM
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I'm not a fan of cold approaching. I usually do what I call, "soft approaching" where I position myself near women while I'm doing another activity like buying a drink. It makes it feel a lot more natural and takes away the feeling like you're chasing after her.
/r/seduction22/03/22 08:30 PM
4

Women will fill in the logistics when they really want to fuck you. Makes the game easy. Congrats on the lay. God speed on adding her to a plate.
/r/seduction22/03/22 04:14 AM
5

Be direct about meeting in person. Generating attraction through text is difficult and not worth it a lot of times.
/r/seduction21/03/22 11:14 PM
1

I feel like it's the same for OLD. Get some rapport, at least 3-4 back and forth messages before getting the number.
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:31 PM
1

I've been living the, "don't ask for the number", life for a few years now. It takes a lot of the pressure away from the interaction and allows you to actually have a good time with the woman you're talking to. Getting the number quick puts you in the long list of dudes that have asked for her number. Having a great time with them for the sake of the interaction makes for good times and raises the likelihood that she'll ask for the number.
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:33 PM
1

I make the first time meeting a date in a sense. Spend a good amount of time building rapport, escalate, and give them a Rollercoaster of an experience. Most of the time she will attempt to get my number. It lowers the number of flakes significantly. Also get the number in the last 3/4 of the interaction rather than the absolute end. I've found that this makes it more likely for the woman to want more of the experience. I've been on the not getting the number game for a while. I live in a big ci…
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:28 PM
1

If you can't talk to every woman you can't talk to the quality ones. Get to know more women even if you're not attracted to them. You'll become more confident around all women and most women have friends that you might be attracted to.
/r/seduction21/03/22 03:53 AM
2

Guys need to stop thinking that because they received a woman's number that they deserve investment or even interest from that woman. I did this by explicitly not getting woman's numbers. It's seems counter intuitive but when there was chemistry the woman would typically ask for my number and this lowered the number of flakes I got dramatically. I also live in a big city with a small town scene so a lot of times I would see the same woman I had a great time with a week later and we would vibe, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:41 PM
3

Yea that takes talking to any woman at all which is a big step for incel-lite folks. It's much easier to put pretty people on pedestals and act like you can't do it therefore they stay in that loop. It took a long time but I treat almost every woman the same. If they're super hot a little more push/pull action but women are typically the same when you come up to them confidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 12:17 AM
1

Realize that you're dehumanizing them in your mind by your internalized Madonna/Whore complex. Or meet more toxic women. Either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:58 PM
2

Totally understood. I'll be better with my language in the future. I've never paid fully all the time with any person in my life. No matter the dating status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:36 PM
7

You're right, I'm totally wrong. The statistic was for domestic partnership abuse. Not sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:29 PM
5

This is something most of the world has no idea about. Most sexual assaults are perpetrated by women also. It's a sleeping pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:10 PM
1

Actually having fun is the best state to be in when talking to women. You're naturally in the right place at the right time a lot more often. Women may start gravitating to you because you're having fun. This has allowed a lot more, "soft", approaches because there's actually something going on. Waiting in the corner until you see a girl is a recipe for loneliness.
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:42 PM
2

I actively friendzone women that I know would be better friends than partners. When you're not absolutely thirsty it's pretty easy to do and doesn't diminish my, "sexiness". I've dated a good amount of women through my female friend circle with no negative effects to the group because, shock, I'm genuinely friends with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:15 PM
2

I must have not explained myself well enough if youre referring to me then. I was mentioning more of the overall ethos of, "I'm interested in you so I pay for stuff", that most men fall into and detailing how I treat everyone close to me the same. It's a trap because it, "puts the pussy on a pedestal" and rarely translates to actual interest. I rarely pay in full for first or second dates. I almost always go Dutch. I don't think you should spend more than $20, if at all, on a person you don't kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:03 PM
2

I like keeping tabs on the incel/black pill community for my own ego satisfaction. This sub helps me realize that my life is pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:30 PM
15

She was casting her net to see what bites probably for her own amusement. Nothing to take seriously. Almost all cute social media interactions mean nothing unless you do a quick push/pull thing like you described. Guys get excited over any little bit of attention. Just make a joke and keep on pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:29 PM
1

My homegirl bought tickets for me to a festival and we ate Korean BBQ with a group of her friends after not hanging for months. Most of my friends are richer than me. Try again. P.S. I didn't pay for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:57 PM
3

Assuming that that's the case for everyone that pays for a friend's drinks or meal is sad as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:51 PM
3

Lol you must have no social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:40 PM
3

Totally, I buy my bros drinks all the time or take them out to lunch. Same for business prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:35 PM
2

Women bring more women around. Do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:34 PM
1

Do not underestimate how cheap people can be. Many are willing to sacrifice their quality of life for a $40 meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:03 PM
4

I have at least 5 female friends that I go out with, infrequently maybe every other month, and I pay for drinks out and whatnot. We're not having full ass dinner dates but it's all cool. Most of the time it's, I got this round and you got next. There's a lot of us guys living outside of the transactional sex paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:00 PM
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I'm with everything except escalate at the end. Even if you don't physically escalate setting up a venue change, it can be to the other side of the venue, allows for opportunities to escalate on each other. Escalating at the end signals thirst a lot of times unless there's a consistent build up of attraction throughout the date.
/r/seduction17/03/22 02:48 PM
4

Always perfer solo. It's uncomfortable having multiple streams of interest thrown back at everyone. When I wing, I open the set, introduce my friend, then extract the one I'm interested in and leave my friend to do his work. Always in 2 sets or more. Yoy should never have to do anything besides gas your friend up for about 1-2 minutes. Anything else is a recipe for disaster.
/r/seduction17/03/22 02:31 PM
2

You got husband zoned which is a purgatory between friend and boyfriend material. It's all bad. Talk to other women and forget about her. That's the only way. Never fall for the OneItus. In the future escalate quicker and don't have hour long phone convos. Meet in person and exchange experiences.
/r/seduction16/03/22 03:31 PM
1

I totally agree. It's about being real and expressing yourself honestly which polarizes people a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:01 AM
5

I feel like when you build a healthy ego you find a sweet spot where you can be a sensitive and respectful person and still get a range of attraction from women. However, this is the goldilocks zone of people and most people are not within this sliver of life. Most people are dysfunctional in some way. As a man, if you express this function openly you will attract a large percentage of people who share this disfunction. Sad thing is, a lot of women who are not within this disfunction zone still …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:33 PM
7

It can help with peacocking and also keeping frame. When you know you're alright and have command over your life it tends to make you more comfortable. It's easier to see yourself as the prize. I don't think it's good to flash it or spend any sizeable amount of money on women though. You have to see if she's worth you providing your resources. Most of the time it's not worth it.
/r/seduction07/03/22 07:46 AM
1

I said that in jest. It's cool to talk to any and all women. You don't have to fuck them. It just seems to be causing more problems for you than is necessary. I'd just start talking to all women. You don't have to try and fuck every woman you talk to. It helps keep you calibrated and not put the pussy on a pedestal. I was having a great time flirting with this 60+ year old woman at the grocery store. We had a great time and I definitely wasn't trying to fuck her.
/r/seduction05/03/22 06:45 PM
1

Dude, pussy's pussy man.
/r/seduction05/03/22 06:04 PM
1

So they have to be hot to talk to you? That's cool if you have your calibration down packed but it seems like its a struggle. Same for me dude. I've gotten a lot better but sometimes my frame gets off if they're super hot. Kind of the opposite from you. I dunno man. Women are humans and they're beautiful but looks only go so far a lot of times. Putting the pussy on the pedestal fucks shit up.
/r/seduction05/03/22 12:10 PM
1

Have you tried just fucking ugly or fat girls? It's kinda cool sometimes. Maybe you just gotta get over it through exposure therapy.
/r/seduction05/03/22 04:14 AM
1

Find women attractive on other qualities than just objective beauty. Dating 9's and 10's help you realize that a lot of them are not quality people outside of their face and body. A feminine woman with a mind can add up to 1.5 on her scale and give you more beautiful experiences.
/r/seduction04/03/22 10:46 PM
5

This is one that I am so thankful I got over in the early PUA days (10+ years ago). I'm not masculine and I don't come off as a bro dude. I think acting like a bro a lot of times turn women off unless you're on that Dark Triad vibe.
/r/seduction04/03/22 10:35 PM
2

Use text for logistics or quick one liners to keep her interested. Making an inside joke early on helps you throw it out randomly. Don't use text to "get to know the girl", that's bullshit. If they're interested they're interested. Don't game over text unless it's online dating and even then have about 3 back and forth exchanges then set up a date. As far as actually escalating in person. Break the touch barrier early when they do something unique they like. Don't just go in with the creep arm. …
/r/seduction04/03/22 10:29 PM
1

A lot of times I just don't care and they usually try to get my attention again. They end up touching me to get my attention back when I do this naturally (it happened a lot last night). If I want to talk about something else I'll talk about something else. I don't think Ive asked a woman what she wants to talk about ever in my life. You don't always have to game.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:02 AM
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When I use to feel uninterested in a conversation with a woman I would try my hardest to make it seem like I'm paying attention. Now I lean back and enjoy being uninterested. Game changer.
/r/seduction03/03/22 02:51 AM
1

You need to work on your racism. That was weak as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:30 PM
1

Totally, that's where I've found most of my success. You have to be choosey though to have any longevity. Also a lot of the women aren't girlfriend or wifey material so you're sacrificing something in the process. Lots of great fwb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:04 PM
1

Very possibly especially in the looks department. It's hard to know when younger there was not much positive feedback. I could be forgiving the looks part to puff up the "work" I've done. I need to look into myself to see if I'm overcompensating that to protect my ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:45 PM
3

Keep stacking them. Hit the club with two of her friends and watch women think you're a pimp with three women around you. It'll also make her or her friends more attracted to you too. It's a cheatcode. Gotta still be cool of course though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:41 PM
4

I feel you. From 20-23 it was pretty rough so I completely understand (I felll into the PUA crap until i realized that it was stupid). And it isnt all rainbows and sunshine for me either. Women still give me the cold shoulder sometimes. However, being able to comfortably talk to a lot of women and doing so regularly is one of the biggest things that made my life better. I feel like this fear is holding guys back more than anything. Also having female friends. Why are guys so against having femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:29 PM
1

This is the one thing that makes this sub laughable to me. I'm a 5'9" nerdy black guy that isn't very dominant in the traditional sense. I have only recently become financially stable after 34 years of living. Im told Im handsome but I would give myself a 7 in the looks department. I was a late bloomer also losing my virginity at 20 years old. I have regularly had sexual relationships over the last decade (2 fwb right now and going on two dates this week) and my last two SO's have done modeling …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:09 PM
3

It's a vibe for me. It's cool that women are cute but if their personality and mindset suck I get turned off real quick. Act when you really feel that you're into them. Not just because you think you're supposed to. Youre on the right path. Notice when you're feeling that real attraction then act accordingly.
/r/seduction01/03/22 07:10 AM
9

Being choosey helps with OneItus and automatically sets frame. I can't fuck a woman I'm not into. Doesn't feel right and usually the sex sucks.
/r/seduction01/03/22 06:58 AM
1

Lean back more when you're talking to women.
/r/seduction01/03/22 06:35 AM
1

Black pill doctrine comes from men believing that women see men like we see women. It's a matter of percentage. Depending on the woman looks can matter up to 50%. These women will let a dysfunctional ugly guy with subpar fame smash. I believe that most women value status, communication, and confidence mostly. There's a power in energy also which ties to confidence. There's been time where my status and vibe brought women to introduce and validate themselves without saying anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:44 AM
1

When I was 19 and a virgin (34 now) I purposely said things that I knew would blow me out but, surprisingly, my experiences ended up being positive overall. Having consistent social experience, waiting tables for years boosted my charisma, for a long period of time naturally puts you in the right place and the right time naturally. I asked a woman if she liked chips as an opener one time and we dating for a few months. Most of what people say never matters. It's the vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:25 AM
1

Yea this is my belief. So many people are trying to find what "pill" is the truth. It's everything differentiated depending on who you are. A lot of ugly dudes can have a mouth piece and social status- get a high amount of women. I know handsome guys with money yet no social skills that blow themselves out regular. Social circle game with an element of choosieness sets you up where both women and men socially validate to other women. It makes cold approaching pointless when theres multiple frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:21 AM
1

Two long term girlfriends and about five other occasions. It's not the usual but it does happen. I've noticed that going out with that intention actually fucks up the ability for that to happen. I'd say up your overall success and numbers with women then it'll happen with maybe even 5% of women you hook up with. It's not as satisfying as it seems if it doesn't turn into a plate, fwb, or relationship. I always feel like it's empty if it's a one night stand you don't translate that into multiple l…
/r/seduction30/01/22 02:30 AM
2

These kind of tests fail for most men unless they already have a level of attraction. Sympathy is in short supplt for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:07 PM
7

Find a place that can be your home base and as you meet new people bring them back to your area. Introduce people that you meet to other people you just met. Create a party location and that will bring even more people to your zone. If you do drugs do them with someone you're interested in after they've qualified yourself. Make sure that they know that you're experiencing it with them and have a beautiful time. This could be anybody. Dance freely but incorporate fun that is easy for other people…
/r/seduction30/12/21 05:02 AM
1

I agree. I don't do a lot of hookup game.
/r/seduction28/12/21 12:21 PM
1

I've been a proponent of opening to build a network and make friends. So typically when I a meet someone I end up meeting their circle and I continue casually running into their friend group since we run in the same scenes (I live in a big small city). I've only had sex with the women Ive open maybe 5% of the time. The other 95% are from friend circles or we just end up meeting again multiple times.
/r/seduction28/12/21 09:11 AM
4

This is why I enjoy being a demisexual man. I rarely think about having sex with most women until I grow an emotional connection with them. It gives me a lot of peace of mind and for some reason a good amount of women in my life like that I'm not thirsty around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:42 AM
1

Disingenuous statements make it seem like that
/r/seduction25/12/21 05:34 AM
10

"Foot rubs and licking my eyebrows is proper compensation". Yea, own the awkward.
/r/seduction24/12/21 11:47 PM
17

Owning awkward situations is hot. It creates tension.
/r/seduction24/12/21 11:16 PM
3

I learned a long time ago that if it works for game it works in all aspects of your life. Women can be interchanged with, family, job, even things like government. Who cares. Value your shit and fuck chasing things that don't align with you.
/r/seduction24/12/21 11:09 PM
1

That sounds like a you problem in your life that I have no clue about. You put on me, "oh you learned when I was young" as an excuse for your lack of having sex. I don't know you bro. Don't make me an excuse for your crap sex life. This is just an assumption but I feel like you put this pressure on women too. They're not responsible for your shit. Good luck though man. I feel like you could be better but there's a layer of bitterness that oozes everywhere. Who wants to fuck that? Anyways. I'm no…
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:37 PM
1

You speak your reality into the world. All you've done is complain. Change or stay a virgin. I learned around 24 years old. I was a 22 year old virgin. Stop trying to put your shit on others.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:23 PM
1

Sure take what you want from it and you're welcome. Nobody is going to hold your hand into a pussy.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:18 PM
3

Yea that's not what he said at all.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:15 PM
2

Next time you talk to a woman express what qualities you like in women and see if she qualifies herself after talking with her for a while. If she qualifies herself reward her with a touch on the shoulder or a compliment. If she puts in effort then she's showing that she's attracted to you and work from there. Break the touch barrier early and if she's receptive escalate smoothly with a hug or something. This could happen over the course of a night or a week. Do this with multiple women and add …
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:13 PM
2

To complain about being a virgin. It's been in every one of your comments. You're doing what you want to do. If you wanted to change you would express that at least a little bit. You're trying to get pussy without changing who you are. What has that gotten you?
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:06 PM
1

Lol, that's what you wanted from the beginning.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:03 PM
3

Seems like you're the only one that gives a fuck while he's talking to other women.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:02 PM
2

Sounds like there is a part of your personality that makes people not want to be intimate with you. No seduction techniques will fix that because no one knows you in this sub well enough to analyze your personality. If you're interacting with hundreds of women and keep getting rejected then there is something turning them off. Who's going to figure that out? Random dudes on reddit? Good luck.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:01 PM
1

He's not desperate which adds to his innate attractiveness.
/r/seduction24/12/21 08:56 PM
3

Women are human beings. There isn't a coin you can put in and get pussy out. Talk to a lot of women, build relationships and build confidence in your life. If you're not doing that then you're staying a virgin. What you want is a prostitute that you pay with doing the "right thing". That's not how it works. For real, save some money up and get a prostitute if being a virgin is such a big deal for you.
/r/seduction24/12/21 08:53 PM
5

Do what you want. Dont expect that there's a right way for situations when you're dealing with random women. Your intentions and self worth is more important than believing that there is something you're supposed to do.
/r/seduction24/12/21 08:43 PM
21

Message her if you want and try to turn it into something like a later date. Sometimes your self respect and boundaries are better than trying to make a chick that's lukewarm into you into something. This is where having plates and other women you're talking becomes important.
/r/seduction24/12/21 07:55 PM
165

Don't chase women especially if they don't respect your time.
/r/seduction24/12/21 06:09 PM
1

I think its a difference in culture. They'll shit test you hard and quick, I think it happened on the first date with my ex, but I feel they wouldn't be talking to you unless they believed in you. I think it happened once then didn't happen again
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:25 AM
25

Non-Americanized European women are usually way more chill and have less hangups about sex. Ukrainian and Russian women are freaks and I love them and there were a lot less shit tests.
/r/seduction17/12/21 09:27 PM
1

This sounds like me right now except I broke up with my girl. Plenty of chicks I haven't talked to in a year are hitting me up to hang and going out feels good. Just don't act from a place of lack. It will not help you at all.
/r/seduction17/12/21 08:21 PM
27

Yea she's trying to make you an orbiter. I'd be cordial but give up any idea of you guys being together. Wait a few months and she becomes a fling again. That's the best scenario.
/r/seduction17/12/21 06:15 AM
1

High level social game is when other people game for you. It's hard following the PUA community cause motherfuckers really don't know what the fuck is going on. You ain't gotta do shit. Have groups of people game for you and your people in your circle. Make people game for you. No matter who. Hook your homes up. Have your friends qualify women to you. You ain't gotta do shit. Get people laid. They will get you laid.
/r/seduction12/12/21 09:29 AM
0

Offer an open relationship or move on. In my opinion you should move on.
/r/seduction12/12/21 03:06 AM
2

Damn. The thirst is strong with this one.
/r/seduction12/12/21 03:01 AM
8

That takes a level of swag that a lot of guys aren't ready for. I like to entertain the group and have one of the women qualify me to my target after befriending the whole group. At most 10- 20 minutes. This helps with cockblocks from the friends and allows for more options also. Especially when you find the anchor of the friend group and enlist them to qualify you to the woman you're interested with. "I didn't expect to have this good of a time with you guys. How fun is she (your target)". It e…
/r/seduction12/12/21 02:58 AM
6

Lol why do you think you need to control shit? If a chick is spending her efforts to be around you and you've touched her skin with some regularity then it's all good. What do you have to control? If you want control start throwing Dom terminology out there and see how it sticks. Most chicks are down to get dominated but you really gotta want to fulfill her submission desires. Sounds like you're afraid of fucking up and need to do the right things to keep her. If this is the strongest desire, fe…
/r/seduction12/12/21 12:07 AM
6

Meet up, eat good food, drink, have fun conversations, use your imagination to create sexual scenarios in her head without being attached to the outcome, and break the touch barrier early. Stop getting crushes. Be attractive to and date multiple women while invest in your life. There's so many women to crush on that when you talk to a lot of them having a crush makes no sense.
/r/seduction12/12/21 12:01 AM
1

Your fear of being friendzoned seems to be more powerful than her will to put you in the friendzone. Just give good advice, break the touch barrier and keep the game.
/r/seduction11/12/21 11:55 PM
1

Treating people as people is a golden standard for respect. A person dumping their emotional baggage on you is not treating you with respect. Giving them time and space when appropriate is great and treating them with respect. If it has been more than 10% of the communication you've had with her then you have to respect your time and let them know that you'd like to have other conversations right now. For real, I give women their time and advice then tell them I want to talk about something else…
/r/seduction11/12/21 11:51 PM
2

Totally, and I agree with you. That's the current state of modern women especially in America. How much is that going to change what you do in life? Right now it's making me adjust my initial investment into women so I find value in what you're saying. However, I don't carry that when I'm talking to women and it's continuing to make most experiences with women pleasant. I feel like a lot of the analysis of it feeds into scarcity when you could just live your life with women around you without ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:18 AM
6

Yea this is when you gotta slow down on thinking about this shit so much. Yea women speak with their emotions but there's usually not a grand female scheme behind it. Do your thing and swerve fuck shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:47 AM
15

Sounds like she's jealous. This could be a mid term win if you chill out and keep doing what you're doing. Friendzone her and see what happens.
/r/seduction09/12/21 11:11 PM
1

Tease out the conversation with what they like sexually and what they're looking for. Ask more questions rather than standing by statements. A lot of women are more cool with it than you think unless they're completely focused on a relationship. I bet the lead up to you saying that was rocky. I usually just talk about what I like and how I've gotten it before and the subtext of the conversation sets the tone.
/r/seduction09/12/21 11:10 PM
2

Thanks for the cuck convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:02 PM
1

30% Latina 20% black and 50% white
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:56 PM
1

Lol we gotta get reparations some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:54 PM
1

Numbers don't mean shit. I have a hard time finding a girlfriend that isn't messed up in the head so there's that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:08 PM
1

I'd say I'm a solid 7 if I were to judge myself. I just make friends easy. I'm pretty bubbly and not ugly but not super attractive either.. I'm 5'9" and black. With a good job and I throw events so I'm always talking to people. I got over the whole, "talking with women", thing in my early 20s so most conversations are smooth with women. Doesn't mean most want to sleep with me but I usually end up sleeping with some of my friends eventually. It's a comfort thing I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:05 PM
1

Yea I'm not 50 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:02 PM
1

Ehh, 13 years of being sexually active. That's like 3 a year. It's not that crazy. I have a lot of friends. I'm 33 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:01 PM
2

Beautiful answer and it's refreshing to hear. I agree with you fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:04 AM
3

Do you think a man with a high body count is prone to cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:13 AM
6

3 / 40+ / maybe 2 I don't usually just hook up and never hear from them again. Most of the women I've slept with have been friends with benefits situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:23 AM
19

About 50. I'm a dude at 33 years old. I really don't care how many my partner has but if they're not also seriously establishing trust in a monogamous relationship then I'm nexting. People can have a wondering eye with 2 or 100 bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:17 AM
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I love this and has been a steady awareness in my life. I haven't been "rejected" in years. I've rejected a lot more women in the recent years than me being rejected. It's not that I never experience "rejection". I'm usually moving on to something I was going to do anyway and that woman is no longer in my life. Others are actively saying yes regularly. It's a weird acceptance but it's caused the whole game thing to be a lot easier.
/r/seduction22/11/21 08:12 AM
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It provides you with a lot of opportunities for different experiences. If you can't have a great night out with some random people that you've just met, you're probably not going to experience it much with a woman that you're "pursuing" either.
/r/seduction22/11/21 07:44 AM
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I think everything should happen naturally. Theres no magic moment where your money is right so you can talk to women. You could have talkrd to women the whole time. It's a step in knowing yourself, and truthfully, being thankful for what you can get. When I post in /r/seduction I'm coming from being in and out of this community for a decade.. Early on I sucked ass and it took years to get half way alright. Now, I've been with a good amount of women but it didn't matter much when the rest of my …
/r/seduction18/11/21 10:33 AM
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I read Models and Alabastar Girl. That's about it. Real Social Dynamics use to be the best forum back in the day now I have no idea who's really talking real game. It's best to make your own way while getting all the information you can. There's a possibility that every PUA coach has a higher level of bullshit than is beneficial to your path.
/r/seduction15/11/21 02:38 PM
2

I'm 33. Been studying game since 2009 so... since I was 20. I started becoming proficient at it at around. 24-25.
/r/seduction14/11/21 08:48 PM
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I'm a 5'9" black guy that grew up in the ghetto and only really started being financially successful last year. It took at least four years to be proficient at game and now, I first read Mystery Method and The Game in 2009, talking to women is usually butter and I have a model girlfriend that I've been with for a year. My last girlfriend was a fitness model. Anything is possible. You are the only one that can live your life. Some people feel a 6'+ white handsome white guy is the standard that th…
/r/seduction14/11/21 06:28 AM
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Hallelujah! Amen!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:38 PM
2

Dudes sleep on MILF game so hard. They can show you a lot of shit if youre inexperienced in something.
/r/seduction26/10/21 03:30 AM
2

This also works with different scenes in cities and bars. Don't be the sleaze ball but become a regular and get to know the bartender, owner, and other regulars. It'll give you wild social proof each time you go there.
/r/seduction26/10/21 03:27 AM
2

True, that's why it'll always fail if you're just a creep that can't make personal connections. The 6's will also blow your whole social circle up whenever they want to. This is dangerous territory but it does works if you can be a real human that has relationships.
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:43 PM
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It works if you don't try to fuck everybody and be a creep. I've had sex with a lot of my friends from different social circles when I was single but I would hit on barely a quarter of the whole group. This only works if you're not a thirsty creep but it does work.
/r/seduction25/10/21 06:35 PM
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Yep, she's showing you the way. I love believing that when you're a self confident man, every woman is helping you to abundance even the ones that seem like they're rejecting you.
/r/seduction25/10/21 04:39 PM
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Plus if she didn't like you she wouldn't want to fuck you anymore. Forget about labels and just enjoy each other.
/r/seduction25/10/21 03:12 PM
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Sounds like she's trying to help you from oneitus. For real, accept this as a win and start dating other people while having her as a fuck buddy. It'll be better for your life and it will take pressure off her giving her space to enjoy you properly. You probably started laying it on heavy when it was obvious that you guys weren't exclusive. Enjoy yourself man.
/r/seduction25/10/21 03:08 PM
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She's honest and upfront about her feelings so that's great. Do you really want to be this girl's boyfriend? I think she's helping you to be in the exact right spot both of you want. If you want something different be honest about it and move forward. There seems to be nothing wrong with this situation. Also it sounds like she's protecting herself from getting too close and bringing back the possibility of abuse. Just keep your relationship with her and be the best man you can be around her (for…
/r/seduction25/10/21 03:01 PM
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I'm going to piggyback and say, genuinely be friends with them and don't be friends with them just to fuck their friends. Women can smell that from a mile away and cut you off from their friend groups. Give it time to become one the core members of their group and find the ones you're attracted to. Always be open about your current dating status and don't kiss and tell.
/r/seduction25/10/21 02:57 PM
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If you lower your standards and love bomb then take away affection with women that are 6s and lower you can get your body count up pretty quick. Get ready for clingers and drama though. Expand your female social circle with women that may or may not like you that have an extended social circle. Become cool with their friend groups and find 2 or 3 to fuck then move on to another social circle. This is somewhat shitty sleaze behavior but you can add numbers up if you don't care. You'll realize qua…
/r/seduction25/10/21 02:30 PM
1

I have many female friends who are from 6-9s that have difficulty finding dates and quality men to have sex with. It's not as easy as you think for women in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:40 PM
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That must be such a difficult way to live. Always worried about the way people perceive you and needing to be over people. Breeds narcissistic and psychopathic habits. It's sad but usually it doesn't work so a lot of people move on to actually growing as individuals. I feel for the rest that get lost in it and never attempt to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:35 PM
3

People confuse these two all the time. It would benefit men to actually research being a Dom and bdsm culture. You're fulfilling the Subs desires confidently and thoroughly. You're not the "one in charge", you're just playing that role to fulfill the subs dreams. Plus a Dom should never have to say they're a dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:25 PM
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Lol I've had sex with 80+ women, 4 were first night fucks two ended in long term relationships (so two one night stands). Every other woman I've been with wanted to keep having sex with me, that's why my ONS count is low. That may be less than a natural Chad but who gives a fuck (everybody uses the terms Chad and Tyrone it's fun) I guess you're the only one that does. I fuck quality for longer than a night. I don't hit it and quit it. My current girlfriend (and last) is a model and they bring wo…
/r/seduction25/10/21 09:45 AM
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Then that's the way it is. Move on to the next one. If you're not feeling it you're not feeling it. On to the next one. That'll make you more attractive in the long run because you're taking consistent actions into the direction that you want your life. If a girl is being disinterested and you're not about it do what the women do. Allow yourself to be bored and maybe walk away. There is a girl that is into you right over there. Sometimes, maybe 1/10 - 1/20, some girls come back to validate thems…
/r/seduction25/10/21 09:44 AM
1

You're always giving information about yourself in the way you speak. Focusing on what you would like to present in the depth of your voice can tell women things subtly. I've personally have gone for women that have been into me over the last few years so knowing when to make the move is a losing game in my view unless you just hit it right. This is where, "assume attraction" comes in. Assume every girl is into you and act accordingly. Then all of your actions, whether it gets the girl or not, w…
/r/seduction24/10/21 03:04 AM
2

Hmm. Do you naturally want to be friendly and open? Maybe you actually don't want to and it makes for incongruency. Maybe you want to act more alpha. I'd just be a little more raw in what you want to do and the way you talk to people. Maybe throw out a little neg if a woman around you expresses behavior you don't want. Try different things. Try being aloof and hard to pay attention to what she's saying, sometimes that works. Your combination is probably a mix of a lot of things. I really can't s…
/r/seduction24/10/21 01:13 AM
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It's weird right? I think dudes need to realize that women operate on different levels than us and there's a good chance they themselves have no idea why it happens. I feel like you still have to have the right vibe to open the door for women to approach you whether skinny or fit. And when you're fit being open yet dominant seems to be the right combo. Closed off and moody seems to work for the skinny boys.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:47 AM
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Another sad fact is that a large portion of guys, there are many where I truly believe there's no hope, could probably better themselves for 6 months and get to that place rather than believing it's not real. I know some great guys that are super close but they're comfortable in life and don't go outside their comfort zone. Albeit women aren't walking up to me every time I go out but it doesn't matter. When it happens it's significant.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:40 AM
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Yea dudes that are in so much disbelief probably aren't attractive, physically, energetically, monetaroly or in whatever sense. My current girlfriend asked me for my number then initiated exclusivity. She's a fitness model and a music producer. Same with the last one. There's really no point convincing guys it's possible if it's not happening for them
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:11 AM
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Yea I feel like I didn't explain myself initially. Nobody is getting laid from not saying anything. Feeling good in yourself and not saying much can. Feeling good in yourself is the start so what you say doesn't matter as much as the vibe you're presenting. Nobody is going to fuck the guy smiling by himself in a corner. That shit is obvious.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:02 AM
2

A lot of women like the famished drug addict look.
/r/seduction23/10/21 11:54 PM
1

I hope you got a good nut out of being whatever the fuck you are now. You've never had a girl try to fuck you? You've always had to try real hard or say something to get somewhere? That sounds sad as fuck. Good luck with that. Like a girl never said, "come here" and fucked you after you guys talked for a bit but you didn't make any moves? Like has a girl ever reached in to kiss you without you "going for the makeout"? You've always had to try or say something or "take the lead". I'm starting to …
/r/seduction23/10/21 11:51 PM
2

I couldn't say a word to a woman without sweating and being weird from elementary till I graduated high school. I had panic attacks when I was in a group of three or more people. I began approaching multiple women a day while I was in college and I did that for a year. It took me about a year to lose my virginity. This was when I was around 19-20 years old. It was pretty much the same until I was 22 and started throwing warehouse parties. Even though I was throwing parties with hundreds of peopl…
/r/seduction23/10/21 11:44 PM
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I'd rate myself a solid 7 in the looks department. I'm just a cool motherfucker and women don't scare me. These types of comments scream of inexperience and bitterness. Being in the field for any length of time, while working on yourself, gaining social skills and becoming higher value, makes this kind of thinking childish. Like... you really think only model guys are having sex with beautiful women? Get the fuck out there sometime.
/r/seduction23/10/21 07:14 AM
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Lol my last and current girlfriend asked for my number and initiated exclusivity. Most of my past friends with benefits were the same way. It's not outside of reality. I've built myself up over 12 years. I was a straight loser from elementary till I was about 21 and I really started to work on it. Didn't really find success, having women ask me out and fuck me, till I was about 27. This shit takes a long time. Literally every woman would say ew when I tried to talk to them when I first went to c…
/r/seduction23/10/21 07:09 AM
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I didn't just sit in a corner and not say anything. I still had to open. I just wouldn't go for the number or close unless they made it happen. You have to talk it's just that you don't have to talk that much. This usually only happens when I'm already engaged in a group and I can sit back. If you're just alone in the corner and women aren't into you in the first place then of course it's never going to happen. Also I'm usually with friends and I chill back so I don't have to worry about validat…
/r/seduction23/10/21 05:31 AM
2

Amen! I haven't had the thought of, I should be dominant, in years. It's just a part of the whole package.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:57 PM
3

Get something to eat and something nice to drink and play some music and vibe. You don't have to entertain her, do what you want and have fun. Whatever happens happens.
/r/seduction22/10/21 07:55 PM
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There's a vacuum like affect that happens when you sit confidently in your presence. Women want to fill it in. I did this but with not asking for numbers or trying to close. It started out rough but a few months in women would get my number and pursue me to close. It's a weird mental flip, and doesn't work if you have no game, but it made socializing a lot easier and less serious.
/r/seduction22/10/21 07:35 PM
6

Thank you for saying this. I feel like a lot of Red Pill terms are just sanitized Incel lingo. I've had a strong attraction with a lot of women but it's never been unwavering. If something didn't go right, even in a many months relationship, it can definitely be wavered even if our relationship was solid. I think "Unwavering Desire" is really just code for indicators of interest that you can invest in. Dude's that want dating to be a fantasy use terms like "Unwavering Desire". Just say she likes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:27 AM
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I agree but only if you have an energetic connection. If you're just the quiet guy with no value the interest in you will fade quickly. It's best to provide value then sit comfortably in the social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:01 AM
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There's been times in my life where I've barely said anything and chemistry was present but this is a rare occasion. Unless you have a clear presence and represent yourself congruently, you not talking makes it weird. If there is tension present and you just don't feel like engaging is the state to be in for minimal talking game works. You have to already have a thick layer of attraction to make it worthwhile. It's not a good "technique". I feel like most guys that aren't social would do better …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:59 AM
1

This is a clear example of what not to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:56 AM
1

I don't do day game so I can't comment on that. I usually generate a good vibe from enjoying my life then I just vibe with whoever is around me, mail or female. Usually people have friends and things end up being fun but cold approaching with the intent to holler at women is a thing I gave up a while. I feel like I haven't "cold approached " in years because when I'm feeling good usually people end up talking to me or I say something fun (it literally doesn't matter. I say the "wrong" thing regu…
/r/seduction22/10/21 06:46 AM
1

I hear this then I see Red Pillers do nothing but complain about the sexual marketplace and women. I can see the convincing dogma of it but where are the results? I feel that more than half of men get more lost and attach more to validation from society albeit online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:22 AM
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They attempt to raise their value towards you (fllirt with you, fuck you) when you show disinterest in them. Women, nor men for that matter, want to have attention taken away from them so they will do things to get it back. Most of the time when women like you they will do things to gain your attention. Like play with their hair and crap. That's them validating themselves. Showing disinterest or pulling back cranks this validation machine for a lot of women. I don't think it's most or even half …
/r/seduction19/10/21 01:46 PM
2

This is the first time hearing masculinity tokens and it actually makes sense. I think the difference is if you give your masculinity tokens from your surplus or from your reserves. When it's radiating you're not giving up your your masculinity to get something. It's just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:39 PM
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Exactly, that's what happened with me multiple times in my life. When I decided to get exclusive with my girlfriends I cut it off directly with all my fuck buddies. One out of a total of maybe 8 gave me a slight amount of gruff but we're still cool when we see each other out. And most were DTF after I got out of my relationship. You can actually do whatever you want. You just have to know who you are and rely on that solely while providing value to everyone you meet. High value is self evident a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:31 PM
2

Being shitty because other people are shitty just makes you shitty. Nothing else comes from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:05 PM
0

Basing the way you treat yourself and other people on women doing bad things in the past is weak and won't get you anywhere. Like... are you spending more time worrying about what some woman has done, that you probably don't even know, rather than your interest and yourself? Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:02 PM
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For most people in the world sexual exclusivity is a standard. This is the best state to be in if this is actually what you want and feel. It's just that a lot of men actually don't want that, they want a baby harem and they think lies and sneaky behavior will get that for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:18 PM
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When I'm single I'm single. I let everyone know it (There's been times where I walk into the club and yell "I'm Single") especially female friends that I'm not dating. Having everyone on the same page makes things a lot smoother and helps being congruent when you're in groups of friends and a potential interest of yours. If it is your preference to have sex with only one person at a time then you need to let that person know early, like before first time sex. If you're solid in your frame and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:16 PM
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Which I definitely think ends in better results for older folks (IRL). (I'm 33). The culture in dating apps is just so... empty and try hard. Also if you can't handle yourself congruently in real life online dates aren't going to go anywhere and you have to a lot of them to actually forge relationships. Social circle game, being honest and direct, and not being weak when approaching makes online dating unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:10 PM
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I've always been exclusively real life (even through Covid) and it has worked over the last few years. Online game is hard mode unless you invest a lot in it to me. I'm way too lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:00 AM
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Giving proper space, attention and time helps ease overactive people. A lot of times people like that have a hard time internalizing facial expressions and body language so they get anxious. This is where you lead with good vibes. Be cool as a cucumber and feel good inside and I bet it will get better.
/r/seduction17/09/21 02:25 AM
1

"Ay I think your friend is cute, I'm going to get to know her more".
/r/seduction16/09/21 04:56 PM
1

What will that belief provide for you whether or not is true? Also, what if you're a model like dude that gets nervous every time he talks to women. Do you think he'll do better than a confident average looking man?
/r/seduction16/09/21 01:02 AM
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Base it on how you feel. If it's super hot give your number and there's a high chance she'll text back. If it's not as hot ask for her number and game more. Real talk either way is great if the chemistry is hot. A woman that wants you will text you.
/r/seduction16/09/21 01:02 AM
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Never be too sure of anything. I'm fairly average in my opinion, don't have a lot of money, but just living my life and providing value has given me a lot of opportunities with women. Stop making excuses, just go for it. Also, a lot more interactions happen when you are living in the real world and not your head. Maybe she always liked him and this was her chance to ask him out in a cute way. You never know. I'm seen obese guys that don't look that good pull. Anything is possible. It's who you a…
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:52 AM
2

Instagram is immediately impersonal. If there was a connection a number is always better. Don't slide into DMs when you've already slid in real life.
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:50 AM
2

Patrice laid out the game before everyone else.
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:03 AM
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I would suggest just going direct with the friend or being honest and have your friend put you on. No need to be all secretive.
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:20 PM
1

I think it all depends on timing and what you want. Yes direct game could help you but are you just throwing it out to most women you talk to? I feel like it could be spinning your wheels if you don't get play regularly. Not every open has to lead to a close. Some women can just be in your life without you leading it to sex. It might go against the grain but having many female friends only helps your game in the long run unless you're just completely spineless. I think indirect and direct game g…
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:11 PM
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I think that trying to be the man that can sleep with any woman is a fools quest feeding the ego. You don't have to turn a "no" into a yes. There's a yes right over there. I think speeding up to sex dehumanizes the person your with and, a lot of times, ends up messing up potential lays. I just vibe with women. I've been doing it a while so I end up having a good time with most women. Doesn't mean all of them want to fuck me. A good amount end up wanting to. Even friends that I've known for years…
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:18 AM
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It doesn't always. A lot of times it polarizes a "maybe" into a no because rapport wasn't built enough. Build up the rapport then be direct. It can be done in 30 minutes sometimes. Going straight in brings up the creep defense a lot of times.
/r/seduction15/09/21 10:06 AM
2

"I want to suck your pussy and make you cum then fuck you. I bet you want that too huh?"
/r/seduction15/09/21 06:50 AM
2

You still breathing right? You're good and more prepared for the future. You got this bro!
/r/seduction15/09/21 05:52 AM
2

Damn brother I'm happy you got out of there and now you're shining up. That's rough.
/r/seduction15/09/21 05:41 AM
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It's heartbreaking that people have to go through this kind of trauma, but the good thing is, YOU don't have to go through it.
/r/seduction15/09/21 04:02 AM
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Yea women like that are weird. Usually something in their past that makes them think this is like. . What you're supposed to do with sex. I dunno. Could be a preference.
/r/seduction15/09/21 01:56 AM
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Yea, I'm a believer that asking for consent with sex has more weight than asking to kiss. Asking for a kiss is cute but it doesn't do much. Asking for consent for sex is a great initiator and is mostlikely already what's on her mind.
/r/seduction15/09/21 01:08 AM
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I have a millionaire acquaintance, who owns an up and coming dating app which makes it even more crazy, who is tall, attractive, and built. He had the most difficult time talking with a group of female friends that I was putting him on to. He completely bombed and started saying crazy inappropriate shit. He usually pays for sex so I feel like his game has been off for a while. It's who you are, not what you got.
/r/seduction12/09/21 01:02 AM
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This is breaking the first rule of game of not putting women on a pedestal and so many dudes fuck it up.
/r/seduction12/09/21 12:49 AM
3

This comment gave me hives.
/r/seduction11/09/21 09:24 PM
0

That's why radical honesty works. When you build rapport and establish a connection with them just throw out, "you guys seem cool as hell. Let's be friends! Also if there's any single friends that you think I should meet I'm on the market." Sure it can come off creepy if you're uncalibrated but fuck it. You weren't going to get their digits anyways.
/r/seduction11/09/21 09:24 PM
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Sure if you'd like. I think its a roll of the dice of if when I do it I "look" Alpha to people. I guarantee you most people wouldn't call my mannerisms and the way I express myself as masculine. I could be a real Alpha essentially but I bet it wouldn't look like it if you see me out. Personally I think its a bullshit word.
/r/seduction11/09/21 08:41 PM
2

I dunno, even back in the Mystery Method days when the mentality of "convincing" women with techniques was prevalent it was known that you were going to fail all the time at this stuff. I feel like I'm the most attractive I've been in my life. I have a model girlfriend, just got a six figure job, many beautiful female friends, and most women I've talked to over the last few years have been great conversations or deep friendships. I still get women regularly looking at me like I'm a goober. Diffe…
/r/seduction11/09/21 07:17 PM
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Even then not every woman will be into you. Sure more than you're use to (sometimes I'm just ON) but a few more women interested is better than nothing. And if "getting" girls include losing a piece of yourself what's the fucking point.
/r/seduction11/09/21 07:09 PM
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This is one of the best comments I've read in this subreddit.
/r/seduction11/09/21 09:07 AM
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Multiple things that exist in the Pick Up community ruin dudes success. The unrealistic idea of sleeping with every woman. Thinking that there are techniques to "convince" a girl to sleep with you. The entire concept of having to be "masculine" or "alpha" to get women. All of these things are extremes that most of male society will never see any real evidence but it's easy to convince yourself to be true Being more realistic, working on yourself, relaxing and leading social situations will give …
/r/seduction11/09/21 09:07 AM
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It's true. Making decisive decisions takes away the responsibility of the woman to make a decision (here's a secret, she already has). Being direct, after building rapport of course, makes her aware of the potential of you guys. Going passive and indirect is just going to lead you crushing over the girl for months then fizzling out. Have fun with everyone at the party and shoot your shot with her while you're having fun. Easy peezy. Nobody else cares.
/r/seduction09/09/21 02:49 PM
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Then just be upfront when you meet in person about what you want, casual sexual relationship while pursuing other people. You'd be surprised at how mutual a lot of women are about that. I'd lay back and just banter chat till the date. If you wait and allow her to initiate convo it could lead to before date sexy talk but I don't think you need it. Just chill, have fun, tell her you're looking for nothing serious and roll with it. See if you like her in person. Screen her with questions about what…
/r/seduction08/09/21 09:34 PM
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Did you already have sex? Stop thinking about how to entertain her or put her into a box to interact with. If it's a date and there's already interest just chill and send some funny memes from an inside joke or something then enjoy your date.
/r/seduction08/09/21 08:57 PM
3

Its basic socialization. If you never talk to or have regular relationships with people, all people, you're going to operate through a lens of resentment, or just inexperience, that'll taint every part of the relationship. Don't try and save these boys out here. They don't want to be saved.
/r/seduction08/09/21 04:47 PM
3

I'm a firm believer that social media likes does absolutely nothing at all for game. You're tiptoeing around a woman so that she notices you. Just slide into her dms with something weird. Nothing at all will come from liking her photos. You can even run a soft simp line like "I went for the like button on one of your photos but I said fuck that, I'm going to talk to you instead." Doesn't matter. Just shoot your shot.
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:42 PM
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Always approach and talk to people. Get numb to rejection and have talking to new people be a lifestyle choice for you. Even if your game sucks getting the rejections out if the way is always the way to go.
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:37 PM
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I didn't start getting laid regularly until I became respected in the arts, music and party scene in my city. I was broke and not that much in shape too, had a drug problem also, but it was one of the times I got laid the most. Being vetted by social circles and communities automatically puts you in a position for the women that would like can feel comfortable in talking to you. Social game doesn't get you laid per say, it takes away the barrier of having to establish your persona to new people.…
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:33 PM
2

It all comes down to how you would like to live your life. You can be with women being an asshole or even a kind person as long as you are congruent. You automatically put yourself into a higher class when you can manage multiple relationships and not depend on manipulation to get by. Getting laid is cool but if you don't have actual relationships that last what's the point.
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:39 AM
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Most of the women I've had sex with were friends for an extended amount if time before. This whole friendzone thing is stupid. It's weird if you don't have female friends.
/r/seduction08/09/21 02:25 AM
1

Excellent story brother! Barring some deep personality issues most dudes will find success going out and working on themselves for 6 months +. It's not magic getting with women and believing that it is only limits you.
/r/seduction03/09/21 07:53 PM
17

The only reason anything happens is because you shoot your shot. Open your mouth, listen and try things out. Fuck up often. No chick is going to be into you just because. That's that lazy shit.
/r/seduction03/09/21 09:39 AM
63

Closed mouths don't get fed.
/r/seduction03/09/21 03:39 AM
2

I make faces to see how goofy they are. Or just go walk up and talk to them. That's universal girl code for, "I think you're attractive".
/r/seduction22/08/21 05:01 AM
5

Oneitus can be good because it gets you to the point of realizing how utterly stupid it is. There are bad women, better than your oneitus, not far from you. Get to the point to where you're fed up and it'll be one of your best motivations to get off your ass. Also, oneitus almost always comes when you're not honest with your attraction up front. Same shit as the friend zone. Lay it all out on the line every moment. Fuck living in fantasy.
/r/seduction22/08/21 04:33 AM
7

Being choosey has been one of the best things to my game. When you've found some success and the number crunching and desperation of cold approaches dies down it becomes easier to be choosey. And by choosey I mean notice the attraction you get from women, gauge it against your own attraction to them and if it's mutual and has energy go for the close. It really helps you not put your energy to just any woman and makes for a lot less rejection and failure.
/r/seduction22/08/21 04:31 AM
1

Are you talking about fucking, make outs or getting the number?
/r/seduction20/08/21 08:38 PM
1

That's all nice and stuff but what do you consider a close? Fucking in 5 minutes?
/r/seduction20/08/21 08:35 PM
2

I doubt that has happened more than twice unless it's just for the number.
/r/seduction20/08/21 07:11 PM
5

Make sure you make your intentions known beforehand, in person with some Kino not no text bullshit, and add studying to be an excuse to get to know each other. Don't use studying as a Trojan horse to her pussy. That's weak.
/r/seduction19/08/21 02:14 AM
1

I agree to that to a certain extent. Women tend to personalize advice, "what I think I would like", even if they are really attracted to someone else. Us guys are on the same team.
/r/seduction18/08/21 07:20 PM
1

Yea sounds like you need to talk to more women. This one sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
/r/seduction17/08/21 11:01 PM
2

Yea, a lot of couches like to split in toxic masculine troupes to motivate guys into a sexual mindset. That mentality is super immature and will probably backfire when you try to apply it. I have dozens of female friends and a good amount of them I ended up having sex with even after years of being in the "friendzone" (I express myself openly to everyone. It's no secret to my female friends that I fuck) and like you they've gotten me laid also. It's mindblowing that guys are still in this mindse…
/r/seduction17/08/21 06:54 PM
2

On to the next one if she's not interested. Even just a whiff of a not interested vibe I talk to another woman. Why waste time? Wanting to continue to pursue is usually more pride than actual feelings. Accept that you "truly" care about her as much as she does to you, not much, you may just have a higher thirst factor.
/r/seduction17/08/21 06:48 PM
2

Women are complex unique human beings. No ordered techniques will trick, or win over, women that aren't attracted to you. The key is to be your best self then it doesn't matter what you technically do. This gives the best opportunity for women that do want to fuck to not have to dig through a layer a bullshit to fuck you. If you're living your best life a good percentage of women (even 5% is amazing for most dudes) want to fuck you and you just stick around and initiate experiences while express…
/r/seduction17/08/21 10:49 AM
10

I vibe with everyone. If a woman and I have some magnetism I talk with her like anyone else. I usually never try to imply sex to a woman directly. You know by the way they look into your eyes. Find that one out of the multiple approaches you make in a night, exchange touching, genuinely get to know who she is, make out, set up something for a later or just tell her, "I think we mutually want to bang each other" (I used this one once and it was just right. She obviously wanted to fuck though) or …
/r/seduction17/08/21 04:30 AM
4

I've always gone out alone or with female friends. I prefer it. I am the only one responsible for the time I have and I usually have a lot more fun. Going out with guys has always lead to me doing the work and attempting to lead not only the women but my guy friends also. You'll be giving off creep vibes whether you're alone or with guys/girl friends. Work on being comfortable in a lot of situations and entertain yourself.
/r/seduction17/08/21 02:03 AM
1

I've seen dudes that can barely make conversation get women. You don't have to be a dancing monkey. Know yourself more and feel comfortable in your own groove whole stacking the numbers, lays, conversations with people. You don't have to be Super Sonic to be with women.
/r/seduction17/08/21 01:49 AM
13

I believe seduction can be for everyone. A lot of women need the same core advice as guys. Building up your self worth, having confidence, and being direct (for women even in subtle ways) will definitely help them. If a guy is gullible enough to believe what women say on here without questioning it then that guy has no ground to stand on and will probably fall for a crap PUA who will take his money soon. Let the women be, it's not hurting my game any. I think its a good exercise in relying on yo…
/r/seduction17/08/21 12:25 AM
1

I love my woman dressing hot as fuck. Makes all the women look, instant social proof, and guys qualify themselves to me regularly. Ya'lls game need to upgrade if your girl doesn't feel comfortable being as hot as she wants to be at all times. If you're dating a model quality woman that's just what happens. If you're worried she'll run off because of some dumb Madonna/whore complex in your head then you never really hooked her in the first place.
/r/seduction16/08/21 08:46 PM
1

No YOU'RE a creep. Nobody gives a fuck about James Tusk. God you're weak. Hiding behind a PUA so that you don't have to take responsibility for how trash of a person you are. Just don't end up on the news when you can't take being an incel any longer.
/r/seduction14/08/21 05:54 PM
2

Yea, shit like this should not be validated with a helpful response. He's trying to find sympathy for his devious behavior. The dude exudes predator creep. Shit like this needs to be called out.
/r/seduction14/08/21 06:16 AM
6

Yea bro you a creep.
/r/seduction13/08/21 09:12 PM
2

Seems like a squad of dudes, many women, the police, your therapist and most of this thread thinks differently. Good luck with that.
/r/seduction13/08/21 08:45 PM
2

"I could overpower a 21 year old girl when I was 21". Yea everything I'm reading from this guy says weirdo creep. You need to figure out why you're so attracted to young women. It's screams that this is a problem. Even in the worse of my game I never got arrested and had people hunt me down. There's a good chance that you did, and continue to do inappropriate things to young women. Find a therapist and work this shit out.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:37 PM
1

Being this sort of choosey then letting go of your autonomy because a woman fits your physical preferences is putting women on the pedestal while blocking possible interactions with women who could be solid matches. You'll hopefully get over it one day soon because you pretty much setting yourself up for this kind of scarcity mindset.
/r/seduction19/07/21 02:54 AM
1

Building up your own self confidence and realizing you're the prize helps you brush off the, "I need this woman", energy. Because once you take off the rose colored glasses and realize how awesome you are you realize that most of these "hot" women aren't worth your time. But for real spin more plates and you won't be as attached to one woman.
/r/seduction19/07/21 01:38 AM
2

Being choosey automatically puts you into the non-needy territory and women intuitively want to fill that space.
/r/seduction13/07/21 02:17 AM
1

I've been a programmer for 4 years and it always seemed to impress and intrigue women.
/r/seduction30/06/21 11:53 PM
1

I've never cared enough to give a fuck about what a woman is into. I just assume that all types of women are attracted to me and it works out in my life. I've found that women that haven't been with a certain race are still down. Coming from a black guy.
/r/seduction30/06/21 10:01 PM
2

Dude you're in the best place. Above 6 foot and in Austin. I live in houston and every time I've been to Austin, I'm 33 now, I've found success. Before I got into my current LTR I had about three women I would see every other month when I would travel to Austin. Just get out there in the field, express yourself confidently, and continuously work on the life that you want. I've noticed that in Austin a large portion of guys suck so being a unique man automatically gives you some attention.
/r/seduction18/06/21 11:14 PM
1

I work in IT also. It has always been as a high value trait when I mention it to women. They're intrigued. Stop thinking that there's anything holding you back.
/r/seduction18/06/21 10:53 PM
1

You can talk and walk at the same time.
/r/seduction18/06/21 07:49 PM
3

When you rise up to the top of the crop of guys you start to realize that this whole men and women interaction thing is simple. It's dumb how big of a deal it is. Most interactions I have with women are overwhelmingly positive, women flirt with me regularly, and my girlfriend attracts women better than me. I use to get an ego boost from this but lately it's just kind of boring. So many people spend valuable energy attempting to please the opposite sex when that time could be better spent pleasin…
/r/seduction18/06/21 04:45 AM
1

I mean yea but does it matter?
/r/seduction13/06/21 02:33 AM
9

I've picked up a woman, and we're still friends, by getting into a super heated conversation about the enlightened ethics of Star Trek. Don't judge, those guys probably pull.
/r/seduction09/06/21 02:32 PM
1

I've been high to a good amount of dates but I've been smoking since I was 14. I'd get control of your weed intake and look at what you're hiding from with weed. It's totally cool, healthy and natural to smoke but when it takes away from your life you got to put it in check. But for real though I smell like a blunt almost always when chilling with women.
/r/askTRP02/06/21 04:59 PM
9

Have a life that you're fully invested in to the point where you know you don't need anyone in order to follow your life path. Feeling sustained in that makes the need for validation disappear.
/r/askTRP02/06/21 03:03 AM
2

Don't give these women any excuses. Just say you're busy and reschedule. If she gives you guff on to the next one.
/r/askTRP02/06/21 03:02 AM
3

Did you talk to the girl at all and build a relationship with her?
/r/seduction28/05/21 04:12 PM
0

Even if you're not into quick casual sex you still need to escalate. Physically escalating and getting her use to wanting to be close to you can be extended for months if you're honest about your intentions. For real attraction usually disappears in a few hours of there hasn't been physical escalation even if either of you are looking to have casual sex.
/r/seduction28/05/21 04:11 PM
12

Start being selective and choosey. It will protect you from falling for the first pretty thing that may put bullshit into your life.
/r/askTRP26/05/21 06:22 AM
11

When you actually put effort into working on yourself you automatically become the top 20-10% of dudes out there. It isn't magic. It's simple. Most dudes ain't got it. And when you get a little bit, you got more than most dudes. Enjoy that shit and don't let it get to your head. Keep working on every area of yourself. Women are a byproduct of success.
/r/askTRP26/05/21 06:20 AM
6

Most people over the driving age have had sex. If you're filtering virgins you're either under 18 or a pervert.
/r/askTRP26/05/21 04:31 AM
12

Keep frame, do what you want in life, and make your kingdom strong. This is the best thing to do to keep a woman and the best thing to have if she goes away. Ultimately it doesn't matter either way. It's your life.
/r/askTRP26/05/21 04:30 AM
2

Yea women get bonkers when they're magnetically attracted to a man and they feel like their attraction isn't being reciprocated. I've had women want to fight me because I didn't hit on them. Women are weird man.
/r/seduction26/05/21 04:28 AM
1

Lol stop doing things for women and just do what you want. Id say just text her friend and have fun. Don't worry about chick jealousy. You will lose focusing on it.
/r/seduction24/05/21 04:59 PM
2

How much passion you have for your life is tied to how confident you are. If shit isn't happening in your life confidence is just an idea that you're always searching for. Having tangible goals and dedicating yourself to them will gain confidence throughout your life. Who cares if some coach laughed at you. If you had the passion you could have that coach on your dick in a year. If it was easy more dudes would have it. That's why it taste sweet once you got it. Dedicate your life to something, l…
/r/seduction24/05/21 03:53 PM
4

Demanding anything from a woman besides establishing your boundaries is weak. Why are you demanding shit from a woman? You should already be good within yourself. Stop thinking you have to tailor your behavior to women. They're not worth you changing your frame and how you treat people. If you want to be more direct, sure practice it and go for it. Don't do it for women though. And get over the Alpha shit. It's an idea nobody really knows and dudes are just shooting blanks at a wall trying to be…
/r/askTRP24/05/21 02:29 PM
1

It's okay for beginners to get them out of thinking that they're going to fuck the first girl they approach but it barely makes sense after the baby steps. Even early on in my game that 1/100 was 1/15 because I used discernment and didn't waste time on women that didn't meet my value. Use 1/100 ratio to get you out in the field but actually working on game a little bit makes it completely pointless to think about it.
/r/seduction24/05/21 12:22 PM
5

Start lifting weights and polarize women more. Don't agree with something if it's outside your frame. Don't let female friends or any woman get away with talking bullshit in your vicinity. This will naturally put you outside of the nice guy corner. And give out your attention like it's precious. All these women don't deserve your attention.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:16 PM
10

I always give my number out. Let alone filtering out flakes I'm too lazy to initiate anything through text. Make the woman do the work. Gives way more peace of mind and the women that actually like you will validate themselves. Win win win. Plus it automatically puts you in the 10% of dudes that are different.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:11 PM
6

Time in the field is better than trying to time the field. Once your fuck its are properly callous you can relax and start having fun with it. It takes a lot of sacrifice and doing it for the sake of doing it.
/r/seduction17/05/21 08:29 PM
19

Every little step is another step on your journey. Appreciate the small successes.
/r/seduction16/05/21 04:01 AM
3

My main career is in software development but I DJ and organize events through my company also. I've been doing this for a few years now. And I usually never get numbers or run game on women when I'm DJing. It's weird, I'm working. I still play regularly and I am planning a large scale event in September, but it isn't my main job. Moving on means something different for everybody. If by not moving on you allow interactions not conducive to your life to continue then it's better to not date for a…
/r/seduction13/05/21 02:18 AM
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I'm in a relationship now that's solid. Just explaining most of my life until I got tied up a few months ago.
/r/seduction12/05/21 11:19 PM
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Case in point.
/r/seduction12/05/21 11:12 PM
7

I had to move on from a lot to get to that point. Almost a decade worth of work. From shitty careers, to shitty women, to no one going to my DJ sets when I first started. It was blood sweat and tears. I wouldn't have had it if I didn't move on from things at the right time. And I'm the farthest thing from a jock lol.
/r/seduction12/05/21 10:58 PM
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That's true but if I moved on in the times that I wasn't who I am now I would have had a lot more success. I once couldn't talk to another woman for six months because I was caught up with a supposed friend of mine. That shit is hell.
/r/seduction12/05/21 10:55 PM
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A lot of times women attempt to validate themselves after you cut the line. Every once in a while it can make for a good relationship. Otherwise, on to the next one.
/r/seduction12/05/21 09:18 PM
5

This Is The Way.
/r/seduction12/05/21 06:16 PM
7

Personally I think you're too safe. You need to polarize more. Put things on the line and really speak your mind even if it's not the "right" thing to do. Women should feel a range of emotions with you. If it's just one band of emotions sparks are more rare. Spark shit more.
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:44 PM
2

People are only ready to hear what they're ready to here. That's why outside of forums I usually don't talk about this stuff. It's a personal journey and they have to take it on their own. I talk more to women about gaming concepts than dudes these days.
/r/seduction11/05/21 11:04 PM
4

Daygame has always been hard mode for me. I've never had sex with a woman from meeting her in the day time. It's always been night time or social circle for me and during Covid it became more difficult even talking to women during the day. It could be the times but people are more in their houses. As vaccines become more available people will venture into the night.
/r/seduction11/05/21 06:42 PM
1

Oh yea then you're definitely right. I'm misinterpreting what I even said. Yea that shit doesn't work.
/r/seduction11/05/21 06:27 PM
1

I see dudes psychologically manipulate women into sex and other things all the time. I know of men who have multiple women writing them in jail. It doesn't take much to find a manipulative asshole out there and find some definition of "it working" using manipulation tactics on people. Nothing works all the time.
/r/seduction11/05/21 06:20 PM
1

Yep and that can, and mostlikely happens, after you move on and focus on yourself rather than chasing a woman till the bitter end. I agree with you that the numbers game isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I started really finding my stride when I slowed down cold approaching and just built up my social circle and influence within my city. That gave me way better results than chasing women. I feel like we agree mostly but I feel that it's a good thing a lot of guys are told to move on. Less cr…
/r/seduction11/05/21 04:30 PM
2

Simple, I don't. Beauty is nice to look at but it doesn't have anything to do with me. My value system is centered around morality, community, and expanding mine and other's experiences to allow for deeper connections. A woman's beauty barely has anything to do with that. A hot woman doesn't give or take anything away from me as a man. It does make me go, "Oh, hello," though. Meeting enough toxic shitty "hot", women that aren't worth your time will help you to stop comparing yourself to them. A …
/r/seduction11/05/21 04:10 PM
15

Yep and women notice it too. It feels good to feel good.
/r/seduction11/05/21 04:08 PM
10

Most of the time I believe that the moving on advice is good because the guy has already blown himself out and is just falling for a imaginary trap of, "if I just do this then I'll get her". Most of the time, no you won't. If there isn't chemistry and it doesn't click then there isn't anything to seduce. By definition seducing is a, "tempting or attracting thing". If you're neither tempting or attracting to her then the seduction "phase" is over. Sure we could talk about the dark arts of manipul…
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:59 PM
3

Yes sir! It's typically inexperience that makes it seem so insurmountable. I've turned down very beautiful women because they were crazy fucks and their inner game was trash. When you value yourself as the prize you realize that "beautiful women" have been sold a false image of uniqueness that a lot of them fall for. That's where the whole hotter women shit test you thing come from. It's true if you're coming with the same tired game as everyone else but if you have a baseline of respect for oth…
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:48 PM
15

My last girlfriend and my current girlfriend are models. The absence of running game worked more than actually running game. Just because a woman is hot doesn't mean that she's special. That's society and your nuts drilling that into you. They're just people and when you come to them without the baggage of society's thirst on you they respond in kind. Moral of the story, don't be thirsty.
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:20 PM
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When you actually start dating hot women you learn that looks don't mean shit. There's plenty of toxic, subpar, low value women that are 10's by society's standards. Having values and principles deeper than the skin not only gives you access to higher value women, who so happen to be hot, but connects you to the type of women who are hot and actually have value beyond that.
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:09 PM
2

Have a complete vision for your life and take confident actions towards that vision without wavering. Sometimes that includes just chilling. Chill with complete confidence. It'll keep your frame strong. Having concrete principles help with this
/r/seduction11/05/21 03:21 AM
1

Any time.
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:56 AM
3

Well with my current girlfriend it was just an intense reality neither of us could deny. We just ended up saying, about a month into the relationship, "I don't want to fuck anybody else and I have a deep connection with you". I don't remember who brought it up first but it was an energetically present reality that we agreed on. I kind of reached for exclusivity with my GF before her but the ground of honesty wasn't set so our true wants were never exchanged leading to a fizzle after 7 months bec…
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:54 AM
1

Just have a conversation with her about you guys relationship without attaching expectation to it She may be feeling the same thing. You might actually relate on being tired of the dating circle. Make sure it's an honest conversation rather than a move to get what you want.
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:49 AM
2

Being comfortable and a good vibe are valid but from your own admission your jadedness about dating and wanting it to end so you want this woman is not valid for a relationship. Why bring that thirst for the initiation of a relationship? Your value system and your want of tying into a deep relationship with this woman is based on your jadedness. That's not acknowledging the potential needs or want of your partner. You can ask to be exclusive and it might actually work as far as getting exclusivi…
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:45 AM
1

If you're not fucking regularly or built a deep strong connection then the want to be exclusive gives off needy vibes. Why do you want to be exclusive? To cut competition? To hold on to what you have? Would it be totally cool to not be exclusive and still have a good relationship? I think the why you want to be exclusive is way more important to your relationship than, "if men can bring up the exclusivity talk". Of course they can. As a man you can do whatever you want. Why though?
/r/seduction10/05/21 04:33 AM
1

Word, I noticed and reported as spam shortly after my last comment.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:49 AM
3

I don't know and it's weird to focus on it.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:14 AM
3

I dunno and it's weird to focus on it.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:12 AM
2

Because the risk of being caught for women is orders of magnitude more severe than a dude. When the dude's your blowing hold the cards of perception in your culture its easier for it to slide than a woman bubbling clit risking death or ostracization.
/r/seduction10/05/21 03:09 AM
1

Like you moving on doing the woman a favor? Totally.
/r/seduction08/05/21 07:31 AM
1

What do you mean? This is the case for women.
/r/seduction08/05/21 06:04 AM
2

Should but you'll die expecting to hear that from women. A lot of times they don't even know why they flake. You just have to take the L, or see it as a win, and move on.
/r/seduction08/05/21 05:40 AM
2

Not codependent. There's just nothing that sticks you guys together. You can't be codependent when she isn't into you. If you work on yourself the right woman will match your energy and you won't have time to worry about a flake.
/r/seduction08/05/21 05:35 AM
2

Look it up. It could explain a lot. You can get laid regularly being a demisexual too. You just have to really build close relationships with women by being honest about your sexuality. And be able to handle circle socials of women and be choosey on how and who you have sex with.
/r/seduction08/05/21 05:30 AM
1

Usually, last year during covid I had about 4 fwb and 6 or so women that I would swing around every so often. All 4 of my fwb I've been knowing over 5 years. Only had like one one night stand and we just decided on not continuing it after. I hardly ever lay women I don't know personally. And not a need, it usually just ends up happening that way. P.S. - I have a lot of female friends. Btw I tested myself every week, I made sure I was cool along with my partners.
/r/seduction08/05/21 05:25 AM
9

I'm 33 now. When I was in my late 20s I beat myself up for all the sex that I missed out when I was younger. However, from 30-33 I've laid more women than I ever have in my life so I really don't have time to worry about what if. I got pussy to lick. Also naturally I'm a demisexual, I need an emotional connection to have sex with people. Everyone I have sex with I usually have as fwb that last over a year. It's lead to fulfilling relationships even outside of an SO type situation.
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:17 PM
0

A motto I take, especially when I became more self fulfilled and confident, "Women are always helping me get to my goals." If she flakes or is distant then she's doing me a favor. Gives me time to move on to someone else that will match my value. It's a weird reality but women like to be lead to a conclusion that she'll purposely hide from you in order for you to put in energy to validate her conclusion. We do it too by wanting women's validation in appreciating our manhood. You gotta accept tha…
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:14 PM
1

Some women get pissed when you don't escalate to their liking. It's weird and kinda messed up, especially if there is chemistry, but a lot of women what things to lead to sex quicker than others. Flirting without physical touch creates buyer's remorse. This has happened multiple times to me. Flirting is cute but physically escalating creates a real ground for women to know how the physical relationship will be. Moral of the story is physically escalate. And do some distance with this girl and mo…
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:30 PM
0

I haven't asked for a number from a woman I'm interested in a while, like 6 months (been dating my current girlfriend for 3 so haven't asked for any numbers). They always asked for my Instagram or number. The times I did get girls numbers it would end in a flake so I just made close friends and grew my circle over time which included a lot of women,, big city small town. If she's into you she'll get your number. My current GF made sure to get my number and initiated texting first. You know the i…
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:25 PM
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If you want her number get her number. Don't think that getting a number means anything though. It's better to actually build relationships than get the number. Don't get girls number while they're working. Guaranteed flake. Hit the field and leave women alone while they're working.
/r/seduction07/05/21 01:53 PM
1

Almost everyone has given me bad advice at times. A big reason why bad advice comes from women is because they're operating from a different perspective and telling you, the man, what they'd like to tell a guy rather than what's actually good advice. I've gotten honest good advice candidly from women when I wasn't begging for it. It's usually the frame in which they give you advice. If you're all sad and depressed they'll tell you, "just be yourself", and in other times when they vibe with you t…
/r/seduction06/05/21 06:09 PM
3

I dunno, I might be hippy dippy but genuinely sending messages with timing and energy gives the things you choose to do value. Just automating it just to get through the day is a weird mindframe to have with a GF or SO. I'd rather not text and I usually don't if I don't feel like it.
/r/seduction05/05/21 12:13 AM
1

That's why grinding and dirty dancing always leads to buyer's remorse. The emotions and sexual energy felt never had a foundation to grow on. I'd grind for a little bit then extract to another location to build rapport. I've had too many times where I grind with a girl and once it's over it's just poof. Preempt it by taking a lead and changing the frame.
/r/seduction04/05/21 08:13 PM
4

I've felt it maybe once or twice and they ended up being long term relationships. Otherwise, it's a frame that people play with but only time, chemistry, and experience will create a true romantic connection. Otherwise it's really intense lust.
/r/seduction04/05/21 08:12 PM
2

Stop thinking that what you're, "doing", is or isn't getting the preferred reaction out of a relationship. It is about who you are. Maybe you're pushing for commitment when what you are is a single man that doesn't want a relationship. This incongruence turns women off. Maybe enjoy being single more and own it. Do you actually want a relationship with these women or you think this is what you're supposed to do?
/r/seduction04/05/21 05:40 PM
1

I didn't stop finding success until I stopped looking at seduction forums. And I stopped getting mystified by hot women when I started dating them. There's some bland ass HB-9 and 10's out there. I still tell women that they're gorgeous at times but it doesn't go beyond that. You're dating/having sex with the whole person not just the looks. Looks are really skin deep.
/r/seduction04/05/21 02:50 PM
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Women, especially if they're attractive, receive a constant barrage of wack energies and people trying to take advantage of them because of superficial beauty. To be honest, if women are freezing while you're interacting you're coming on too strong or not providing unique value to the conversation. I'd bail. Taking more notice of women's emotional state in the moment will give you awareness of where that particular woman is emotionally. Just because you approach doesn't mean you deserve her atte…
/r/seduction02/05/21 04:32 AM
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Thank you for pointing this out. That's the funny thing about language. It's an integral part of how we as humans express ourselves but at the same time it ties you into a realm of thoughts and concepts that at times takes you away from the energetic experience of life. You don't have to say it.. it's known. That's the best way to game I feel. Interacting with the energetic flow of the universe rather than your ideas about it and the confirmation of it.
/r/seduction02/05/21 04:27 AM
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Men have a harder time accepting their sexual orientation fluidity. It translates to fetishes that represent that difference. Men also watch more porn so it's bound to happen.
/r/seduction01/05/21 02:00 AM
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A motto of mine is, "if you're not talking to and sleeping with multiple women then she's your girlfriend", when talking about fwb.
/r/seduction01/05/21 01:47 AM
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I think you may be thinking to deep into it. If people have other options then they have other options. It's the same as you talking to or having sex with other women. Friends with benefits should always be as hands off as possible in the labeling and controlling department. I congratulate friends with benefits that found a solid dude. When I was single I had two other girls I was fwb with so there isn't much sting. Just move on. You should be managing multiple women if you have a fwb that's als…
/r/seduction01/05/21 01:09 AM
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When my energy shifts and I'm no longer enjoying myself I simply leave and go to another group of people. Nobody owes you anything in this world. And also you don't owe anybody else your presence, time, money, or attention unless you decide on sharing it. Really find what value you're providing to people. A lot of times, it's nothing at all and you shouldn't waste your time. Finding your tribe takes a lot of chances to get right so it's better for you to go to the next one. Once you start cleari…
/r/seduction30/04/21 10:51 PM
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I feel you. I've been around for a minute too. Sometimes the flow is just good to enjoy the ride. We don't have to do the most all the time.
/r/seduction29/04/21 02:04 PM
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Lol talk about overthinking it. Let homie have his validation its cool. If something else happens cool.
/r/seduction29/04/21 01:51 PM
1

Yea those are what you call immature women that aren't worth your time.
/r/seduction26/04/21 10:51 PM
1

This is prime info. Thank you for this!
/r/seduction24/04/21 06:44 PM
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You always get cock blocked when you don't keep building rapport with the friend and have them validate you in some way.. You should make it known slyly that you're into her friend but not isolate her out of the group. "Wouldn't your friend and I make a cute couple", or some crap like that. Get her validating your potential of escalating her friend. It puts the pressure off your target to worry about if her friends approve of you or not. A lot of times chicks get pissed that they're not getting …
/r/seduction24/04/21 06:35 PM
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Usually you attract who you are but women are a little more sensitive in feeling who a person is than guys. We usually need it spelled out for us. Try to get out of your comfort zone when you're out with friends. If you like a guy say hey but don't come off too strong of course. Meet people that would work well with your friends. Real men will show themselves as you shine. As a woman with their shit together you can be a lot more choosey and don't be afraid to extract yourself out if you're not …
/r/seduction24/04/21 03:49 PM
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You didn't steadily physically escalate. Kissing at the end of the date is Disney movie crap. If there was natural escalation and reciprocation, not just flirting because that doesn't break the physical barrier, going in for the kiss at the end is Luke putting all your eggs into a confirmation that isn't necessarily real. Physically escalate regularly and the kiss won't be such a big deal.
/r/seduction23/04/21 08:58 PM
0

"Blackmen Amen"! I knew you'd accept yourself sooner than later. Thank you for accepting your darkness finally!
/r/seduction23/04/21 02:14 PM
0

Well don't you know it's not right to fight your fellow black brother. We've fought hard and struggled for so long for black skinned brother to show anger to another black skin brother. Come hold my black hand, yours is a little darker but that's okay, and let's ride together in new heights of blackness. It is okay to love yourself Quail00 as the black man that you truly are. We don't need to struggle any longer!
/r/seduction23/04/21 02:12 PM
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I mean, why don't you give up for a while? Will it kill you? Voluntary celibacy gets you in frame when you actually use your free will to activate it. Do it for two months. I mean, it's the same as right now right? Build the next two years out and really commit to it. It'll be fun.
/r/seduction23/04/21 08:37 AM
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Diving into my dark side allowed me to express my edge without thinking that I'm letting go of a part of myself. When you identify with ideas that fluff up your ego it hides the depth of yourself that breaks the mold of convention. Your darkness connects you to mankind while allowing you the moment to know yourself. I actually did shadow work through the game and organizing events for people to experience more than meditating. It helped me notice that I'm not for every woman and I don't want eve…
/r/seduction23/04/21 08:30 AM
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Just shit from the world to take you off your path. Shit ain't real.
/r/seduction23/04/21 04:33 AM
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I feel like it's partly the unrealized racism of America but at the same time I have two Asian friends, one Cambodian and the other Philippino, that grew their game over time. It's possible. Not going to say there isn't social impediments to you but coming out on the other side builds strength. Focusing on your body and appearance makes a bigger impact I feel for asian guys. Finding that swag gets you attention. Flipping people's prejudice is attractive.
/r/seduction23/04/21 03:07 AM
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Accept that you are a Kang fellow black man. I'll see you in at the village meeting next week.
/r/seduction23/04/21 03:05 AM
1

So... you don't want to go to the cookout? You're black, you'll get in no problem.
/r/seduction23/04/21 02:00 AM
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It's alright being a black person, I hope you can look in the mirror and love your darkness.
/r/seduction23/04/21 01:55 AM
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No it's because your thoughts that you choose to put out into the world suck.
/r/seduction23/04/21 01:52 AM
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That's the soft evil that hides in America. First our voice was taken then the use of our voice is seen as a innate failing of ourselves. We're good and constantly excelling in a way that's unique to us. As black people realize that beauty our true selves shines through. This is the case for all races and peoples. We should hear it from everyone. Our time shines pretty strong these days and that scares some people who are attached to social hierarchy. Let's all get the fruits of the world. It's …
/r/seduction23/04/21 01:49 AM
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I mean, does it matter? Acting from what you want creates your life. Reacting to a whatif from a random person kinda produces static. Maybe she was into you maybe she wasn't. What does it matter to you? We're you into her more than that she was just a girl.
/r/seduction23/04/21 01:23 AM
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Once you accept the way of the dark, your light will be known.
/r/seduction23/04/21 01:08 AM
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I hope one day you stop hating your black skin and grow up to love yourself. You'll get a lot more chances that way.
/r/seduction23/04/21 12:04 AM
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You're not approaching and waiting for a signal from the woman to act. Women change emotions by the microsecond. Approach immediately and with strength and it won't happen as much.
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:38 PM
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Also your ass talking about more chances when you lost your virginity to an escort a year ago. Get the hell out of here.
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:37 PM
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I may have been too harsh but I've seen guys try to represent something they're not use to to try to get women and get burned by it. He should dig deeper into the style that he likes and build from that. Focusing on looking well off will lead him to a bad time.
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:18 PM
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Ha! Look at this savior here imparting wisdom from the bottom of the barrel when noone asked. We're good brother. Stop getting triggered when someone mentions black people. That'll help lower the number of racist people that exist.
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:10 PM
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They love white men, Asian men, latino men, middle eastern men and men in general. My brother needed to hear that women all over the world love us too. Sounds like you just don't like hearing it about black men for some reason with your All Lives Matter looking ass.
/r/seduction22/04/21 11:02 PM
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He felt that being black would hurt his chances. I'm explaining how it wouldn't. Go and try to intellectually bypass somewhere else.
/r/seduction22/04/21 10:58 PM
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Thank you for clarifying my comment. If the goal of dressing "well off" is to get women that's bound to fail. I'm trying to help the guy. There's way too many women out there that values conservative style and a focus on a life path rather than representing wealth. He should focus on what he wants. If he falls into the trap of faking through clothing, which is not you at all but an expression of you, he could be lead to a path of women that'll use him and fuck up his real game longer. Like attra…
/r/seduction22/04/21 10:56 PM
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Totally, dressing better is always a great pursuit to find for yourself and it makes you feel good. He specifically said dressing "well off". That's using the illusion of wealth in order to get women. That's fake. Dressing better, finding style, and expressing style is a journey of the self and it benefits you in more ways than just attracting women. It could just be semantics but from the tone of his comments I feel that he thinks putting on a watch and a pair of $300 pants will help his game. …
/r/seduction22/04/21 10:45 PM
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I think even if you start dressing rich you'll be so in your head trying to represent something that you're not that it'll hurt your game more. Hit the field more and find out what you're really interested in and start living that path. Focus more on how you really want to dress rather than the frugal/rich dynamic and start feeling good with yourself about it. I guarantee that it'll help you more than spending money you don't want and getting even more pissed that women don't care about your $30…
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:35 PM
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I think you misunderstand me. You're frugal and you don't care about how rich you look when it comes to clothes. Why do something different for women? Find what you really like and get your style on the way you want. I still thrift shop all the time and I make 150k+ a year. I see guys with gucci that can't talk to women at all.
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:23 PM
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Why do you want to look like something your not? You're already fucking up. Just dress like you want with fitted clothing and do you. Who cares what you look like. I went out with socks and sandals the other night and had a great time with a few numbers. It's all good.
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:16 PM
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Well then actually experience it with her and I bet she'll tell you all about it. No need to pry.
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:56 PM
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As a fellow black guy for the longest I thought my race would impede my game. After years of being in the field and then finding my swag around when I was 25 (now 33) it's actually a fucking super power. Depending on where you go it automatically puts you into a unique category. Add that to having an incredibly different life experience than a lot of other people makes for wild experiences. Almost across the board white women love me. Same with Latina and Middle Eastern women. You have to be wil…
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:47 PM
1

Yep. Have more purposes than, "cute girl talk".
/r/seduction22/04/21 12:53 PM
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If you've never escalated or expressed yourself as a sexual being then it's going to friendzone real quick when you "confess" your feelings. If she's really a friend just ask her out then escalate on the date. Seems like you have an unrealistic and one-sided attraction to her that's not healthy. I'd just ask her out or move on.
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:22 PM
0

Man you gotta talk to other women.
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:16 PM
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Rather than walking up to a woman to open find more occasions where you so happen to be near women in activities you were going to do anyways. If you're at a bar you want to get a drink, so happens to be a woman there. Open softly from there. It keeps you in frame because, you were going to be here anyways and it takes away the awkward, "I'm walking up to you from across the room to say hi". Its a weird mental thing to put into practice but if you're actively populating your life with solid deci…
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:12 PM
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It's because you're not doing what you want but attempting to get validation, information, from the woman to feign connection. You don't connect or generate attraction with information but from going through a wide range of emotions and experiences. You can stop this by telling experiences of your own, setting up experiences for you guys to have (Ay let's look at this random thing over here), or bringing out shared passions that you can bounce back and forth. Ask yourself this. Do you actually c…
/r/seduction21/04/21 04:29 PM
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Eh that's borderline sexual harassment if you haven't escalated before. You should always be escalating rather than going in for the grab. That's how people get called out. Express yourself as a sexual being and escalate steadily with growing Kino. If it's a friend then you're better off doing light flirting then see where it is. Going too strong on a friend that you haven't escalated on puts you in the friendzone, or with a charge.
/r/seduction21/04/21 02:45 PM
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Society has fucked us up more ways than we think. Getting back to our natural state, taking full responsibility of our lives, is the true mission here. Women are just a good byproduct.
/r/seduction21/04/21 01:57 PM
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I'm 33 so I'm older. That's over 14 years of being sexually active. Maybe 2-7 per year. I feel like that's low especially when I found my game 3-4 years ago compared to othera.
/r/seduction21/04/21 10:09 AM
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This is one thing that gets guys confused a lot of times. They see other guys say bullshit and end up getting girls sometime but the truth is a lot of guys congruent frame is fake bullshit. Of course them being unaware of their fakeness leads to issues in their relationships. That's why guys that are practicing congruent frame and a healthy state of being end up winning overall because truth becomes their most dominant mode of living. That makes for more fulfilling relationships. I feel that str…
/r/seduction21/04/21 03:52 AM
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Yep, you can say the same exact thing as a dude where it works with the exact right timing and it won't work if you got the vibe. I got a girls number by asking her, "So you like chips?", in a gas station and it fucking killed. Ended up dating her for a few months.
/r/seduction21/04/21 03:36 AM
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I didn't get laid till I was 19 and didn't get a girlfriend till I was 24. You have time. Invest your money and yourself. Plot out your next 5 years, fuck women, and focus on your path. Talk to women as you go. You'll be alright.
/r/seduction21/04/21 03:35 AM
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So many people are poly these days it actually doesn't matter a whole lot if they do have partners. If they're honest to their partners of course.
/r/seduction21/04/21 02:09 AM
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This works more for a natural because his frame is congruent. Throwing this out as a newbie makes you seem like a creep. Forcing relationship knowledge without building rapport puts women into a logical mind which will make them question your intentions. It takes a good quick recovery to smooth it out. Of course if your frame is strong you can do whatever you want.
/r/seduction21/04/21 01:13 AM
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If I'm bored I pull out my phone. Otherwise I most of the time maintain contact while exchanging emotions. Sometimes I look around. Sometimes I lean back on something and just stare off. 80% is eye contact though.
/r/seduction20/04/21 08:25 PM
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You, of course, almost always have to talk to open. There has been times where I'm just feeling really good, give eye contact to a woman, then exchange good vibes just with our bodies and eyes. This was at festivals, parties, or situations where the environment made for good times. A lot of men and women aren't aware of this but energy is real and you can exchange energy with your eyes and body. If you feel good inside women notice and vibe with you. Sometimes I don't want to talk. And I don't. …
/r/seduction20/04/21 02:07 PM
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This is G shit. It's your essence exuding. You can generate attraction without saying a word. It's sort of like Luke training to be a Jedi with the blinders on. "Your eyes can deceive you. Don't Trust them," Kenobi said. The same with your words. A lot of dudes think it's what you say that matters in attracting women. It's who you are. I've said literal nonsense before and it lead to a makeout or a lay. If you don't want to talk don't talk and just vibe. It works better sometime.
/r/seduction20/04/21 01:23 PM
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I dunno, I get where you're going but I feel like it's putting the cart before the horse. There was a time where I was living in my car and didn't have much of shit but I was already a few years into game so I got results. My life didn't actually become fulfilled, note living a good life not just having a bunch if women around, till I focused on myself and built a life that I wanted. We're human. We can text on our phone and wipe our ass at the same time. Telling noobs to put all their focus int…
/r/seduction20/04/21 01:18 PM
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I dunno about text but in real life saying what you want uninhibited gets girls wet. ESPECIALLY if it's complete nonsense but the vibe is still there. Most of the time my brain is rerunning commercials from the 90s to 2000s. I regularly say them outloud. They usually have no idea what I'm saying but I'm vibing hard with it and most of the time it works. I've opened multiple women with, "damn girl you got an ass, let me get a better view of it". In cultured society this is the worse thing to say.…
/r/seduction20/04/21 01:11 PM
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Yea sounds like this shit is over. Move on. If you really want to fuck just tell her that you want to hate fuck her. She'll either move on or do it. Doesn't matter either way, the relationship is over.
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:57 PM
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Just walking away and talking to another woman has gotten me laid more than trying to convince a woman that she's attracted to me. If it's not hitting its not hitting. This takes a big ego death though cause as dudes we always think about "getting the girl". Women that are into are just into you. There is no getting them. That's true game, accepting that it's not what you do that makes you attractive to women but who you are.
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:54 PM
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Nothing destroys attraction more than back and forth conversation through text. Attraction isn't a mental exchange of good one liners. It's an active energy exchange. It's hard to do that through text unless you're continuously polarizing (being controversial or bold/risktaking). If you're messaging more than a 1/3rd of the time then you are investing too much. And if you haven't escalated in person then the spark has probably died. I'd set up a date/meet up then escalate or move on to the next …
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:50 PM
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A woman that wants sex sober really wants sex. Mostlikely she is still down. You did the right thing. I've turned down drunk women and they usually, besides one, respect my decision and gains more attraction.
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:13 PM
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Take it as a win that you talked to her. Makes it easier when you see even a more beautiful woman to actually talk to her. Regularly talking to beautiful women is always a win.
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:10 PM
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Always checking in. Even if she doesn't answer you still get answers. Women like to qualify themselves.
/r/seduction16/04/21 03:44 PM
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No, be completely honest and lay it out on the table then sit in the responsibility of it. Aloofness implies that you're putting intention into ignoring people. If you're actually aloof, on the ADHD realm, then that is natural and benefits come from being real. It's not binary. I go in direct and then maybe I lose interest but being one or the other is too much planning on my personality to live with it. In the moment, it may be one or the other.
/r/seduction12/04/21 09:23 PM
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Lol women are freaks. So freaky that they don't want to experience it with any dude.
/r/seduction12/04/21 06:50 PM
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I totally agree. Daygame, non-party, scenarios are hard mode that's why I never do it really. I did it in my early days but that was only to get over my approach anxiety. I think cold approaching is good if you're still afraid of cold approaching. Otherwise I wouldn't do it. I'm just commenting from your original post that you didn't feel any choosing signals and had information that would have told you that she didn't want to talk to you. Allowing the environment to breathe while you just chill…
/r/seduction12/04/21 06:23 PM
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This is straight facts. Trying to hide your desires is creepy. Laying it out with confidence puts the idea into the woman's head and automatically defines you as confident. I've gotten a few instant lays from this. Don't do this to every woman of course. Figure out if you're actually attracted to them rather than, girl, hot, must fuck. Even some 10s are kinda meh in the sexual desire department.
/r/seduction12/04/21 04:46 PM
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I feel like this is a different strokes for different folks type thing. I'm horrible at online and I've tried. Real life is always almost better for me. I usually run social circle game. It's provided the best results for me. And for me also I've kind of stopped doing so called "cold approaches", like walking straight up to a girl then initiating. I'm usually in proximity to women in which I'm already doing something I would be doing anyways. Makes for an easy hello. Going out of my way to walk …
/r/seduction12/04/21 04:43 PM
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Choosing signals? I assume that means something like indicators of interest. I go direct and straight in and I have a high rate of positive interactions. Looking at a woman more than once puts you into creep zone especially if you're waiting for her to give you a signal. I don't think this works well. Hell, last night I talked to about 12 women. All were positive and 2 made sure to get my number. Didn't ask for theirs. Only like 3 out of those 12 gave me a signal before I approached and 2 of tho…
/r/seduction11/04/21 08:51 PM
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Because 16 year old girls are way less intimidating as multiple guys trying to sly hit on em. You're going to get bad reactions sometimes and there's absolutely nothing you could have done about it. Go in quicker and more direct next time. The whole moving closer to the girl to finally talk to her thing gives off creep vibes.
/r/seduction11/04/21 08:20 PM
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Thank you! I was just writing notes for a post about shit tests not being an actual thing. It's a reaction, typically, to something that you're presenting but not willing to be honest about in the moment so the woman fills in the gap to gather information. If you're actually a self sustained individual that expresses themselves honestly there's no gap to fill in. It just is.
/r/seduction11/04/21 02:31 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/seduction10/04/21 11:22 PM
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The mall has always been hard mode for me. You gotta either do the weird run up behind them thing, don't do that, or the smooth slide talk as your passing by and hook them hard and early. Extract to another location quickly and build rapport, then number close or insta-date later. That's a lot of work to do, in most cases, 15-20 minutes. Especially with covid you're going to be fighting against the current. It can definitely be done though just get ready for a lot of flakes. It goes back into wh…
/r/seduction10/04/21 11:13 PM
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Nothing. Dating is still a crap shoot a lot of times and covid has made people socially starved so there's a lot more thirst out there. I've found that a lot of women are into the whole make dudes simp for them thing. Avoid that like the plague especially if she's hot. Light negging works with these types of women because a lot of dudes are on the simp train. Depending on where you're at some women have post covid trauma about being physically close. It's good to get where their social distance …
/r/seduction10/04/21 11:10 PM
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Lol I am a willing and active participant in talking about this stuff. You are providing me value. Never apologize when you regularly bring people value in your life.
/r/seduction10/04/21 11:01 PM
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It's okay to feel it. Observe the feelings but don't attach your identity to them. Find ways that you can subtly break out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:58 PM
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Finding out the reasons why you want a girlfriend is important because you will be telegraphing your true feelings through your words. Do you want to find a girlfriend because you want a woman to fill in a space in your life that you're not finding within yourself? You're going to have a bad time. Find out why you want what you want and do some soul searching for a whole. Then let people know what you really want from a place of strength not because you can get something from someone.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:54 PM
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God speed. Have you tried anything online? There has to be open outdoor parks or something just to be around people even with social distance and stuff.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:49 PM
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I think it's weird that you're saying you love her and want a relationship with her when you haven't told her anything. That's dishonest and it's making you have an unrealistic expectation of her because you also know that it's dishonest. You should have told her you liked her the moment you felt it. If you really wanted to take it slow and get to know her you wouldn't be telling a bunch of strangers that you love her. Start being honest with her. Its the only way it's going to work.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:48 PM
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I've been networking through LinkedIn and Facebook finding like minded programmers and technologists in my city. It's my life path so it feels fulfilling. This is completely outside of talking with women.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:41 PM
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Are you in a super lock down city? Yea making friends and talking to women are kind of in the same vein. What's your plan?
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:39 PM
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How would she understand that you're into her? By saying it. You haven't said it? Then she doesn't understand. You're already saying you want a relationship with her and love her but kissing is to early. You need to get out of this Disney romance you got going on in your head.. Are you under the age of 18?
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:34 PM
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Have you made any friends over the last few years? Male, female, ugly, short, tall, anything? Women are just another part of your life. If you don't have any social life over these years you might have to stop giving a damn about women and just build your social circle and network more. Fulfill your life with things besides women.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:33 PM
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Bars, clubs and parties have been my bread and butter for a decade. I don't try to approach anywhere else because you're fighting against a lot of expectations. Grocery store? Book store? That shit is hard mode. It can definitely work and it's a good place to practice for general day game but it's best to go to places where women expect to have conversations with guys. But really, anything you would do in your normal everyday is best because it's already a part of your life. Add more nature or p…
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:29 PM
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Oh... bro... this is only the second date with her? You need a lot more experience. No wonder she asked that question. She can smell that you like her a lot and you haven't said anything. No don't say you want to have a relationship with her. Have you even held her hand or kissed her? Take it slow bro and stop objectifying her. Escalate smoothly and hang out more times. You barely know the girl. You're putting pent up expectations on her. Just say you like her and hold her hand. Stop thinking ab…
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:22 PM
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Thank you for qualifying this. I can see how going wildly into fucking it up can confuse the lessons you're trying to learn. The crazy thing about purposely over/under or misplaced gaming is, sometimes doing the wrong thing works. A lot.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:17 PM
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For real stop trying to analyze chick speak. It purposely doesn't make sense. The subtext I'm reading is that she wanted validation that you "think about her alot", aka is attracted to her. She got a little bit of confirmation of it. That's it. If you like her make a move. It doesn't matter.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:13 PM
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Lol stop thinking it's a shit test. This is just a girl's crappy pick up game. She's into you she's just waiting for you to say it. You're kind of leaning into simp mode with the whole I think about you a lot thing. She feels it and she wants you to say it. Just start saying it.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:05 PM
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Yea that sounds like a lot of entanglement. There's probably a lot happening behind the scenes that you're not aware about. If you're talking about it undoubtedly other people are talking about it. I just never like people in my business and I a work place people talk. It's just me personally. You gotta figure out what you want and not worry about how other people do it.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:56 PM
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Every situation is very different. Sometimes you set back sometimes you go in. I don't fuck with drunk girls so I probably would have done the same thing as you but it was obvious that she really liked you. You should have extracted to a private place in the party early. This is a thing that's hard to watch in game sometime. A woman's attraction to you can shift shift another man that didn't put in the same work, especially if she's drunk. It looks bad on the outside but it's the fluid way women…
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:55 PM
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More dudes need to purposely blow themselves out. Purposely go in to fuck it up. It makes you not give a fuck about the outcome because the outcome is, "fuck it up". It hurts the ego because you're not "getting anything", out of the set but it allows you to free yourself from outcome dependence. Rejection is sweet and it actually stops happening when the, "goal", is just expressing your vibe confidently to people.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:51 PM
1

So I was with you until you said dude is ugly. I've seen way to many physically 5 dudes run amazing game with the way they carry themselves. Not rich either. Hell I'm like a good average looks wise, not above average, and I was doing alright in my early days when I lived out if my car. It's possible. Definitely lowers some options but not all. How you carry yourself matters.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:48 PM
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Uh, no, you're reading a fantasized example in women's heads. That's like the opposite of actually being a man. Read it for fun but don't expect to learn shit from it. Maybe the art of sexually teasing a woman but not much else.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:33 PM
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Always continue to push and pull and push the boundaries of the relationship. Always be willing to walk away from it if it isn't satisfying both of you. Regularly step outside your comfort zone to test where the relationship is and where it can go. You never stop gaming.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:32 PM
2

When youre comfortable within yourself there is no friendzone. Just women you talk to. Almost every female friend I had when I was single I could and would end up fucking them here and there because I made it known the type of person I was and at different times they were down. Sometimes it would last sometimes it wouldn't. Getting caught up on whether you can fuck this girl or not makes you miss out on a potential friendship.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:29 PM
1

It's just happened every time I see it. Unless you continue the relationship past each of your employment or find the rare combination of mature adults I've always seen it cause drama within the workplace. Even if you guys are good people love to add drama to situations of workplace romance so you guys will be the talk of the office. Too many factors added on to have a low pressure relationship. Unless it's in like a big company or something. If you guys work right next to each other it's kinda …
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:23 PM
1

It's tough to get over the first hill of not being worried about how it comes off. That's why it's important to be honest with it rather than saying in order to get something else. Try saying it and walking away sacrificing the set. Puts the stress off you.
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:25 PM
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I usually comment on something that's present in the environment. That's why the whole, "I thought you were cute so I'm saying hi", kinda hits cause under neath it is, your a guy, she's a girl, you thought she was cute. The crazy open ended canned questions are cute but it throws off reality because who cares about this random fact or game. I've been saying, "I like your vibe", when u honestly like their vibe. If they have beautiful hair I tell them why I like it. Simple, gets the whole guy kind…
/r/seduction10/04/21 06:45 AM
2

Stop judging your life by other people's standards. You cared more about matching your friend than talking to the girl in front of you. One thing I do with conversations is express personal stories that have made an impact on me. These can be funny, serious, topical, or just something you want to talk about. This opens up a chance for her to tell her experiences. The way you lead a conversation is the way she's going to respect and respond. You lead with silence and awkwardness then tried to mak…
/r/seduction10/04/21 04:14 AM
2

Make sure to actually take time for yourself and not yourself in relation to this experience.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:58 AM
2

Right on I didn't know it was a thing! It's a solid rule to follow. Check out most dudes at the club. They're awkwardly standing for hours waiting for the right time to approach or adding memory spank to their hard drive. Don't be like most dudes. It's for real an epidemic. My female friends and I call it, "The Wall of Creep".
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:57 AM
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I realized all too late that women want sex, regularly, with someone they like. For real if a tinder date wants to come to your home on the first time she wants to fuck. Just enjoy yourself.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:08 AM
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Getting lays is cool and all but you still have to be yourself afterwards. Better to keep on improving rather than hang on to the fact that you fucked.
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:46 AM
3

If she's not responding back to your messages I'd let it go and look for more in person experiences with women. It's hard as fuck to generate attraction through text and social media. You're fighting against the current especially since it's been a long time already. If your city isn't under super lock down I'd try and meet women in meat space. If she responds back to you then I'd slide that experience in but definitely don't reward a woman with awesome personal experience if you guys haven't cl…
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:42 AM
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She was probably tired of dudes talking to her and she definitely felt that you wanted to but waited a long time making that feeling of hers even stronger. Next time go in early and strong or don't think about it at all.
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:40 AM
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A rule I stick to regularly. If I look at a woman more than once or look at her longer than 3 seconds I approach. If not I don't and I don't beat myself up over it. There's so many women out there.
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:39 AM
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Assume attraction. Adjusting your behavior by how she responds to you puts you into simp mode and it seems like this girl is good at it. Stop wondering if she likes you or not. Do you like her? Why? Have experiences with her that gives you reason to like her. Real talk if the girl is talking to you she's at least minimally into you. Just do what you do until it either you or her doesn't want to anymore. And get off thinking snapchat is running game or generating attraction. Real life is real lif…
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:22 AM
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I walk away when I'm not getting fulfilled anymore. Women change attraction levels and interest regularly. If you actually like her and she does this you gotta ask yourself, "what do I really like about her"? If it's real then you should probably express it more adamantly and polarize her shifting feelings. You probably didn't push the emotional range enough. If it's not a hot yes it's most definitely a no. If you've tried 3 times I'd definitely give up.
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:09 AM
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Having multiple options definitely helps a whole lot. It literally puts you in a place to not give a fuck. I'd say more so though is having a life that fulfills you in most areas of your life. Friendship, finances, creative expression and family. Building on those naturally makes your life more fulfilled. Building this as a mediator allows you to see abundance mentality in areas of your life outside of women. Women become just another one of those things. Getting blown out hundreds of times also…
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:06 AM
0

Homie needs to accept his trap porn addiction already.
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:53 AM
1

All my solid relationships have come from situations where I can talk to the woman for at least 30 minutes. Just personally.. For quick day game approaches you have to come in strong with the energy, make them laugh a few times, get solid indicators of interest early, and number close saying exactly what you want to do with her. Same day dates work best. Not that, "maybe we should have a drink sometime?" "I'm going to my regular bar that serves the best frozen drinks. Come with." <--- This is an…
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:46 AM
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Yea, don't think about it too much. A lot of machismo culture is veiled honosexuality that people at large haven't accepted about themselves. Men not having avenues to express themselves feed into that. Pretty much we're all a little gay. It's better to be okay with it rather than building a shame complex. Moral of the story is, as a straight dude, eat more pussy.
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:40 AM
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I punk bad boys regularly out in the field. Most mature women don't like them and they usually don't have the capacity to handle mature women unless they're really good psychopaths. Women just want a man confident in his life that's moving forward regardless of what it is. A lot of times that's bad boys. But it's not because women love bad boys, some do usually immature women, they just love a man in his own direction.
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:37 AM
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I feel you. I feel once I start hitting 40, I'm 33 now, I'll naturally fall out of it. I do it cause I want to and it's been working out for me. Watch when I'm angry though, shit gets wild.
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:29 AM
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Realize what you're doing when you people please. You're using sympathy to get away from the decision pressure you are feeling and showing people that you really care about their judgments of you. Really seeing what you're doing in the moment will help you stop. Am I really helping this person by saying yes or apologizing for everything I can? Is that helping accomplish tasks at work? Is it making me feel better? Are they treating me any better? Realizing you have a problem is the first step. Th…
/r/seduction10/04/21 01:23 AM
3

Well if you want a pitty party you're not going to find it here. Took me years of work to build the life that I want. Probably going to be the same for you.
/r/seduction10/04/21 12:11 AM
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Assume that she already likes you and act that way.
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:50 PM
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I've had bathroom sex at clubs at least a half dozen times. Thinking you can or should be able to do that with any girl is not the way and gross.
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:31 PM
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That's because most women aren't worth your work and that's why dudes need to love their single life more. Wasting your life with an uneven partner is not worth it at all. There are women who want to hold their weight with the relationship building, mature women, but even then you still have to lean in more. It's about finding the ones, not one, that are worth it.
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:29 PM
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Stop thinking about what other people do and begin thinking about what you want to do. Most of time my gf and I are just chilling watching TV, cooking, or dancing going out with friends. Sometimes we go on an adventure. We're doing our own thing a lot of the time. We're not attached at the hip. Just have more experiences and stop feeding into the thought that you don't know. Recognize where you're learning, have fun, and keep on moving. The random thoughts of, "oh is this the right thing to say …
/r/seduction09/04/21 04:01 PM
1

If it's your idea of success then you have a problem. Fuck who you want whenever, don't have it be a life goal. That's just weird.
/r/seduction09/04/21 03:56 PM
0

People look at people. It's all good. A personal rule is if I look twice or longer than one second I have to talk to then. Nobody, man or woman, enjoys creepy staring, longer than 3 seconds or so or looking multiple times.
/r/seduction09/04/21 01:26 PM
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Man your dedication is intense. Right on man, you're getting years of experience in a few months. There's going to be a time where you stop giving a fuck about technical game and you start to see who you really are in all these interactions that you're having. That's when things will kick up a notch. You express yourself freely without the game mindset calculating consciously in the background. Gives you more energy during your pickups. Excellent reports though. You're doing it right.
/r/seduction09/04/21 01:24 PM
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It's a hard pill for guys to swallow but most women don't want to lead relationships. It's just a fact of life. Most honest women would agree. Being nice cuts your balls off and makes you accepting unquestionably her frame. Women want to give up control to a self confident man in certain areas of the relationship. Other areas not so much. The key is to figure those details out and how it fits within your relationship. I'm smiley, laughing, and kind to everyone I see. If they go outside my moral …
/r/seduction09/04/21 01:18 PM
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Personally it is outside of my moral boundaries daries unless it's established that they are Poly. I walk away in every situation. That's why I express and expect honesty in my interactions. The juice isn't worth the squeeze usually.
/r/seduction09/04/21 12:58 PM
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Thanks for the compliment! Women aren't worth the chase usually and dudes think that being able to lay them means that you've unlocked the golden life without any problems. Sometimes being able to lay women causes more problems if you haven't figured out your inner stuff.
/r/seduction09/04/21 12:56 PM
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People are quick to be skeptical but I live experiencing it regularly. Energy is real and we respond to it regularly. If you aren't sensitive to it you'll assume that is none. It's hard to deny it when you live it though.
/r/seduction08/04/21 08:00 PM
2

You generated no attraction while you were at uni. You're another guy on Facebook. Don't be attached to it so much. Move on.
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:57 PM
1

The whole, 20 minutes for attraction phase, 30 minutes for seduction thing was dumb as hell and super prevalent in the late 2000s
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:40 PM
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Where you are not worried about the outcome of a situation with a woman. You're independent of the outcome. You're A-Okay whether she rejects you or sleeps with you. Just enjoying yourself and the ride. This is somewhat of the ideal state to be in to get "good" with women. AKA be fulfilled and confident within yourself regardless of the outcome.
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:38 PM
2

Haha! I guess I write with too much slang sometimes. Juices flowing - emotional chemistry, attraction, horniness. Laying it on thick - overwhelming the woman with an aggressive overbearing game.
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:36 PM
1

I feel like the early days had so much of the blind leading the blind that guys thought that there were an example number of lines you would say in the "attraction" phase or whatever. If it helps you break out of your shell definitely pull some liners out your ass but if you become slightly better than okay with women you should dump it. Same with the negative form of negging.
/r/seduction08/04/21 07:34 PM
3

Julian was the only one I studied from the new natural game times with Real Social Dynamics. I haven't watched a couch video or read something from a couch in like 8 years though.
/r/seduction08/04/21 02:39 PM
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Don't think it's a switch that you turn on to make up for lost time. It's who you are. It should be present and flowing with varying intensity the whole time. Laying it on randomly, especially late, especially without making it known whether through body language or verbally that you digging her makes the "sexualizing" seem inauthentic. You don't get sexual because you think it's going to get you something at this time. It's what you want to do and you're making it known. Totally different energ…
/r/seduction08/04/21 06:06 AM
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Push/Pull is one of the few things early PUA community got right, along with outcome independence. Leaving room for them to invest especially if there is chemistry gets their juices flowing. Laying it on thick without giving the woman room to breathe kills attraction. Good report man.
/r/seduction08/04/21 06:01 AM
1

Just said to respect women and don't objectify them especially as separate from men. You can do that by yourself.
/r/seduction08/04/21 04:19 AM
1

I know right? The objectification is the main problem most of these guys have. They need to talk to their mom more.
/r/seduction07/04/21 11:06 PM
1

Totally, DM me.
/r/seduction07/04/21 10:32 PM
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I think dudes use it as a crutch to establish their intentions without actually laying out their intentions. They ride the, "date", word to do the work for them then they're awkwardly sitting in an Italian restaurant with a woman they barely know. I'm not about it.
/r/seduction07/04/21 10:16 PM
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Stop depending on snapchat or text to generate attraction. If you didn't make yourself known in person then they don't know you. Make yourself more memorable in person and create strong alliances with your friend groups. As a fellow black guy we have a tendency to do the far away holler then the "wyd", texts. Be unique and lay your personality on the line. For real. Fuck Snapchat. Unless you do heavy creep game most women will treat you like a simp if you try to generate attraction through socia…
/r/seduction07/04/21 10:08 PM
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So, I've never said date and I think it hurt and helped me in the past. Just feels weird saying date, like we're in the 90's or something. I just say meet up or talk specifically about what were going to do. Usually the vibe and the attraction generated before implies it's a "date". There's so much baggage on that word date, I don't like it.
/r/seduction07/04/21 10:03 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction07/04/21 07:50 PM
1

If your energy is good and you do what you want with confidence, not that hover bullshit almost every guy does, women don't have the time to care about if you're alone or not. Super loud clubs aren't good for alone game a lot of times. I like the lounge setting cause it makes me feel good. Usually if a girl is ew about you being alone its because of something else that she notices about you that is screaming insecurity like, worrying about if people care if you're alone or not. Just have fun. Pu…
/r/seduction07/04/21 07:16 PM
2

Pretty much every populated city has a community of them. I've met a ton of great people.
/r/seduction06/04/21 04:58 PM
3

It's common man from the three women I've been with from the region and the few Russian friends I've had over the years. Russian people are awesome.
/r/seduction06/04/21 04:48 PM
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My ex was Ukranian. There is something loyal and special about Eastern European and Russian women that it's going to be hard to find in the states. The dating world is a mine field. It's 50-70% a numbers game for women who deep into American culture.
/r/seduction06/04/21 02:57 PM
1

It's never been an either or thing with charisma/dominance for me. My charisma is dominant. My charisma doesn't depend on the other person to confirm it. Don't think everything is a binary switch. You can be all of the things at once.
/r/seduction06/04/21 02:54 PM
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Damn, I can completely understand in those cases. I feel for the woman mutilated in that way. No one should have to go through that.
/r/seduction06/04/21 02:47 PM
1

Yea you invested way more than her too early without expressing your true feelings. You were intimidated by her beauty so you thought you should fall into whatever frame she throws at you thinking that she'll give you something. I'd slow the communication about 50-60% from your side and holler at other women for a while. I'm a firm believer in not shitting where you work anyways.
/r/seduction06/04/21 11:46 AM
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Yea... I have no idea about that man. Every girl I've licked has been into it. And satisfying women is try hard? You may need to get over the experiences of your ex. If she gives me dome I give her dome. No more thoughts about it.
/r/seduction06/04/21 11:06 AM
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Ask her what she wants. Eat a lot of pussy. Find out if she's clitorially stimulated or vaginally. Foreplay with fingers and your mouth. Oil her the fuck up. Make her cum multiple times before you do. Ask her regularly what she liked or didn't like in detail. Try multiple positions. Don't go to fast. Set the environment (the whole day) for her comfort. Give hints, but keep it mysterious, on what you're going to do to her. Eat more pussy. Try role-playing. Try ass stuff. Slow the fuck down. Get t…
/r/seduction06/04/21 05:31 AM
4

Enthusiastic yes is forever better than a coerced yes. Having to pry open a number just proves your creepy.
/r/seduction06/04/21 04:30 AM
2

Yep and it's going to be all through you so you're going to appreciate the hell out of how you grow.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:39 AM
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If you didn't want to home wreck you would have called her out a while ago. I'd cut off contact as much as possible and let your friend know what's going on. Even if they're open you should find out from the friend and see if he's comfortable or open with this kind of communication between his wife and you.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:37 AM
1

You're going to feel this way for a while. I still hold a grudge for the way I was mentally traumatized. I'm finally working on forgiving my parents after about 15 years. The thing that really helped me was building a spirituality from deeply studying all religions and dabbling into the esoteric which was super hands off for my religion. Gave me a deeper understanding of modern Christianity and how wack it is. I operate from this new world view and I appreciate the fuck out of it because it's mi…
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:32 AM
1

Then best of luck man. May be better to work on your online potentials or work through social circles for a little bit. A real quick face flash from you then her could warm up the convo a little bit too.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:21 AM
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Yea just sounds like she didn't like you. Next time if the girl isn't comfortable meeting you alone accept it and hang with the group while building bonds between them more while you're with her. Maybe insta-date from there. A hot yes is always better than a coerced warm one.. Enthusiastic consent and compliance is where it's at.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:18 AM
3

I grew up in a Christian cult and it made me an incredibly self conscious idiot at socializing with people especially women. I'd get some therapy and work on your programmed notions of sex, women, and yourself cause the whole fornication thing is going to take you on a loop (Madonna complex etc.). Don't worry about coming off weird. It's who you are right now. Focus super hard on what you want to do with life and start doing it like your life depends on it. Start putting yourself into situations…
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:16 AM
1

This is incredibly tough since masks make people more restricted and self conscious. I'd extract to a location that's outside, social distance and ask to see her face and talk normally. I'd also flash that vaccine card if you do hook somebody.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:12 AM
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Yea just seemed like she didn't like you that much which is all good. How's your Kino game and when you tried did she respond? You can tell pretty dang early if it's going nowhere if she doesn't mirror your body or doesn't responds positively to kino.
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:09 AM
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Eh, I fucked a girl in a food truck during her break (gross I know, she was the only one there and she had the keys). Had sex on the couch of a party in a some dorm rooms at a college I didn't go to in front of others; there were a few other people fucking too. Had sex in a local dive bar a few times. An alley where there were people walking by. Had sex in a public park without caring much about who saw. Not outside the realm of possibility. I dunno. It could happen. Inb4 r/ihavesex
/r/seduction05/04/21 01:05 AM
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So this is one of those cases, especially if she's hot 8-10, where you were way to complacent and didn't polarize her enough to generate attraction. Definitely read Models by Mark Mason about this. Being too safe and not giving a range of emotional experiences turn women off especially hot ones who get hit on a lot. Take more risks, say outlandish borderline offensive things about something. If she likes The Office say something like, "The Office is for people who only have missionary sex" or so…
/r/seduction05/04/21 12:52 AM
2

Oh damn, I'm incredibly sorry. I assumed you were in the America's or Europe. I really can't say man. Now it's up to a numbers game while you continue to work on yourself. So like, even if you "succeed" in conversation, you can never meet these women?
/r/seduction05/04/21 12:12 AM
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It's definitely harder online thats why I don't do it. If you can unlock the secrets of online please let me know. Actions and vibe in this sense is more on your profile and how you express yourself. In text, for me at least, it comes in the form of gifs and laying out what I'm doing currently in my life and my dreams. I'd go for more observations on her that are fun rather than interview questions. "You wear a lot a black but you smile, are like an anti-goth" or something stupid like that. Text…
/r/seduction05/04/21 12:00 AM
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Yea if that's what you want. If you just want friends I'd be a little more targeting in who you talk to. Usually second degree friends of friends or common interest groups that you can go into. I like to keep things open ended so I don't like to set strict guidelines unless I truly want it to be that way. Display what you want through your actions and vibe.
/r/seduction04/04/21 11:40 PM
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Real life. I don't do things online really ever. Especially if I haven't met them. Every online conversation that I've had that didn't lead to a meet up in a week or so has failed horribly. I'm a gimp online and through text but in-person is golden for me.
/r/seduction04/04/21 11:38 PM
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The other night I talked to two women about pastries, micropenises, travel, and cryptocurrency. There was a guy that asked for a cigarette and I asked him, "what was something that happened two years ago that changed your life". It blew one of the woman's minds cause it hit the nail on the head. We had a 30 minute conversation with that guy about his experience and it really opened him up (he was hyper shy). The guy thanked me for bringing him out his shell. What do YOU want to talk about? I lov…
/r/seduction04/04/21 10:48 PM
4

You sound like a load of fun when you're at a bar.
/r/seduction04/04/21 10:31 PM
2

I do soft approaches a lot of times since most dudes go for the, "this is it" type approaches head on or the incredibly creepy whisper behind her back thing. I usually just do a side what's up while doing whatever I was going to do anyway. Usually when getting a drink or walking to another place of the bar. Then if it strikes position my body closer. If a woman gives me indicators of interest I smile then approach stronger. I'd say stop targeting women at bars, that's what all dudes do, but just…
/r/seduction04/04/21 10:31 PM
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Lol, I don't know for sure if the story is true or not but I feel like guys here aren't believing it because it's outside of their reality.
/r/seduction04/04/21 09:24 PM
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Dude, you made her cream from your honesty. This is a great write up. Thank you.
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:08 PM
1

Yea that means it was never going to happen. If you got some solid rapport from them though they will I've gotten girls message me months or even a year later sometimes. It's really rare though
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:04 PM
2

Totally man. Thanks.
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:38 AM
1

I was a socially stunted person from my childhood. I started promoting and organizing warehouse parties to break me out of that trait. It threw me deep into evolving my personality to get hundreds of people to my parties. It helped a whole lot.
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:35 AM
2

Yea RSD use to be my go to way back in the day but I haven't really looked at any coach for quite a few years now. I dunno, if a person were to look at me game they would probably think I'm dancing monkeying, I move around a lot and love to dance everywhere, but I'm always doing it for me. Hell even when I'm talking to dudes I do the same thing. I dunno, the idea of "doing" something to get the girl is flawed in my opinion. Kind of a paradox but truly expressing your genuine self feels way bette…
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:33 AM
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Yep. A lot of dudes fall into this trap because they can use texts as a way to cheat steps in a relationship because of fear, laziness, etc. You are more than your tools. Not to say you can't be great at it. I have a friend that works online and text game beautifully. He's also kinda a Chad so that probably helps. If someone were to read my text from a pickup perspective it would seem like nothing is going on and I like that. The sweetness is in meeting in person. Also don't think you have to pe…
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:12 AM
2

That's why I think it's a losing game trying to generate attraction through text. Sounds like you're using it as a crutch cause your in-person game is lacking in your mind. Just remember that women like you not just your text. If it's really bothering you I'd just stop doing it and just use text for logistics so you're not depending on it so much.
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:45 AM
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I just tell quick jokes then set up a date and time to meet up. If you're finding success with your technique I'd stick to it. Texting is unnatural compared to in-person communication so I wouldn't compare the two as much as you are. Just stick with what works with texts and make solid in-person meetups
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:03 AM
1

Dude, tonight I talked about astrology, pastries, and micropenises. It doesn't matter what you say. Even silence is tight when you own it.
/r/seduction03/04/21 02:50 PM
2

It's a state of mind where you're not dependent on a particular woman to fulfill your dreams. Where you're not getting destroyed because one woman rejected you. Being completely comfortable with letting a woman go because there's another one right over there. Knowing that women like you for who you are and if they don't, it doesn't phase you one bit because you have options. Plenty of fish in the sea type shit
/r/seduction03/04/21 02:42 PM
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How has online been working for you? I live in Texas so Covid doesn't exist /s. I'd assume that if you live in a shutdown city online dating would get a lot more hits. I've built my circle and public persona in my city for over a decade so theres a lot of residual socialization. I'd start taking command in bringing value to your social circle and seeing if it extends to women you don't know. Don't ask them about women they know but make the connections stronger, if you're cool with in person han…
/r/seduction03/04/21 02:37 PM
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I believe that in person energy is the real relationship. Text is for reminding them of that energy or setting a situation to feel that energy again. I have a friend with golden text fingers. He ain't even that cute but all his lays are from text or online dating and he's got magic going on. It's so not for me though. He's an anomaly. Anyways, thanks for opening up my thought on who this could apply to. Real talk fuck numbers, it puts women into logical mind unless you say ridiculous shit or onl…
/r/seduction03/04/21 12:18 PM
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Dude, like, if you're not down I'm not listening. I've probably missed out on dozens of potential lays but like, I'm playing Call Of Duty. I ain't gonna chase you.
/r/seduction03/04/21 12:06 PM
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I've only laid a few women from getting their number, setting up a date, then having sex with them. Probably 4 out of 80. Most of my lays have been friends that I've known for a while, first night lays that lead to fuck buddying, or other experiences that lead me to sex. Meeting a girl, getting her number, setting up a date, then having sex is a whole lot of steps.
/r/seduction03/04/21 12:04 PM
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Them teeth are popping.
/r/seduction03/04/21 08:15 AM
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Damn son you about this life. You mind if I PM you?
/r/seduction03/04/21 04:43 AM
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Eh, for real if a woman is being a child I walk away. If women are running that cocky/funny game, this is most of women's game, I either fully roleplay the sim identity that she's projecting, "OMG I could never talk to such a cool girl like you. Just give me your only fans link already", or just walk away. Don't play these chicks games. They wack. "Wanna fight", subtextually validates her bullshit and ties your energy to validating her frame. You gotta express hardcore facial language to lay the…
/r/seduction03/04/21 04:30 AM
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True, I have to admit that I purposely didn't add more complexity cause text game is something I gave up forever ago. You're helping a solid sector of dudes here.
/r/seduction03/04/21 04:21 AM
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Yea women like to set out a lot of fluff because for centuries they weren't allowed to express their true intention, and its kinda a chick thing naturally. Unwilling or unable means that she doesn't want to. Move on. Most chicks that do this I leave them on read. Watch they message you again in a month if you do that.
/r/seduction03/04/21 04:08 AM
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This is no fluff real shit from your own experience thank you. You're lucky because most guys stage one is, "intense ego and identity attachment to not being good with women", so they have to work through that. But everything else you wrote is solid. I didn't start being successful until I left the community and just lived life. That's why I think overall pick up culture is bullshit because to truly be good you have to absolutely not give a fuck about being good with women.
/r/seduction03/04/21 03:57 AM
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So at first I totally thought, "oh another pick up guru... gross", but he actually laid out solid advice for text game. Generate momentum, acknowledge compliance, then set a date. That's it.
/r/seduction03/04/21 03:51 AM
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Lol "me and my crush". You're attached and identify your personality with a girl you haven't even been intimate with. That's your first problem. You don't own her, and the fact that you think you do creates a complex about her life that you have judgments about because you have identified your own inadequacies to your relationship with her. You do not own her and probably don't know her as deeply as you think. It sounds like you should have asked her out years ago. Honestly I'd say forget about …
/r/seduction03/04/21 03:43 AM
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So, you gotta isolate the quality of what you feel before you get fucked up. Why is there a childlike motivation for you to inebriate yourself into state? What is that build up that you're running from through alcohol? That little childlike motivation to get you into a fuck it state is where your true self is currently in your inner game. It's immature and that's absolutely okay. There's actually a whole world of game that you can roll within that sliver of state that will give you success but y…
/r/seduction03/04/21 03:31 AM
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I grew up in a cult. I didn't feel comfortable talking with anybody, let alone women, until I was 22 years old. I was incredibly stunted socially. My way of using this strife as a win was I started throwing parties. This shocked me out of my stunted socialization and allowed me to bring value to a lot of people. If you feel like social connection is an aspect of your path, and not just a way to get women, then I would suggest diving into a creative skill that you've done before and find communit…
/r/seduction03/04/21 12:54 AM
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What did you want to do as a kid? What do you want to do for the world that will bring value to you and others? I DJ, volunteer for sex traffic victims, organize events and have an app I'm looking to deploy in the fall. I'm not doing this to attract women. It's what I want to do with my life. What about you?
/r/seduction02/04/21 11:35 PM
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Thanks Hyphen bot. I am an ass-motherfucker.
/r/seduction02/04/21 11:18 PM
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Hygiene, finances and the like is entirely for you to create the life that you want and to move easily through the world. If you're boring as fuck after that that's all on you. I make over 100k a year, dress nice, and have solid investments now. I got more tail when I was broke struggling artist because it was a time where I centered my life around loving myself (inner game). I'm older now so I don't give a damn about numbers but I'm still a cool ass-motherfucker from that process. I'd still be …
/r/seduction02/04/21 11:14 PM
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Yes, asses did get a beautiful pounding.
/r/seduction02/04/21 10:42 PM
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Thanks man! Sometimes we need simple things to break us out of routine and getting numbers is a big one in this community. Both of my last significant others gave me their number without me asking and we were inseparable after. It probably wouldn't have worked the same if I tried to number close on them. The most solid relationships I've had, with men, women, or even non binary individuals, didn't come from me asking for the number.
/r/seduction02/04/21 10:27 PM
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I'm a firm believer that seducing a woman through text is a fools game even if you get good at it. Use it as a tool to meet up, tell a quick joke or a gif but don't try and do work through texts. This is good advice for guys that are using texts as a crutch to not take responsibility over their relationships. These rules don't really work once you're in your own flow. You can break em regularly.
/r/seduction02/04/21 09:07 PM
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Sounds like she's dtf or fishing for attention either way get the logistics on meeting and see if you even like her in person. My home is a prize so I never let women that I don't know or just met inside until we've built trust.
/r/seduction02/04/21 09:03 PM
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Thinking that you have to do something to appear dominant to people is the farthest thing from Being dominant. Dominant is the way you go through life, be damned if anybody notices or cares because being dominant is not for them. It's the way you want to move through life. Personally I'm a peace keeper and I'm usually the one that mediates conflicts between people. I despise drama and I usually never start it. However, if someone crosses my boundaries or displays behavior that is not in line wit…
/r/seduction02/04/21 08:42 PM
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The first situation is a solid example of life situations not matching. Which should be appreciated because it's honest. Older women a lot of times want completely no feelings or attachment sex or a solid relationship. You probably felt more like the latter to her but established the former by your actions. On to the next one. You are building the quality to observe reality as it is and own what you want without making an identity about what you experience. You're on the right path. I'm writing …
/r/seduction02/04/21 05:00 AM
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Yea, I see that in younger women who are tens that haven't grown up. My last girlfriend before my current is a fitness model with some years of experience. Some people would see her as a ten. She's super shy, humble, and has a hard time expressing her beauty confidently but has a solid personality and her conversations were deep. She definitely wouldn't fit into the typical ten category. Give women more credit and don't think you know them because you've labeled them. A lot of tens don't even kn…
/r/seduction02/04/21 04:28 AM
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Dude, you are an excellent example of being fresh but owning your frame and direction in life. You are on. I'm not a big fan of ultimatums, it puts women into their logical thinking mind which most of the time they don't want. Let them know your intentions and where you're at in life early with confidence. They'll let you know if they fit your frame. I think you may be escalating too late and that's why you're getting flakes. If you're digging them say exactly what's attractive about them and ge…
/r/seduction02/04/21 04:15 AM
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I've experienced this more from 7s and 8s than 10s. Real 10s are being drowned in superficial attention so a lot of times I've found them receptive to real conversation. This has been true probably 1 out of 3 times though. If a 10's personality sucks she's a 7 or 8.
/r/seduction02/04/21 04:02 AM
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I never qualified what Poly was just said that she may be one. Most people who call themselves Poly fail the ideals of it from my experience.
/r/seduction01/04/21 09:00 PM
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I mean, do you not want her to stare at you? Tell her to stop. Would you like to talk to her? Talk to her. Do what you want. Spending any amount of time thinking outside of the classroom about her is giving her way too much credit and value.
/r/seduction01/04/21 07:32 PM
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It's difficult to get over the first hump. I'd lower your goalpost a little bit if it's getting to you. Did you have a pleasant conversation with the bank teller? Did you smile at the old ladies getting her groceries? Did you make a guy laugh on the street? Women are just another aspect of your day.
/r/seduction01/04/21 07:18 PM
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If it's really ticketing you off lay it on the table and bring it up in the moment if you feel it. Hell make it a game. "If I invest anymore into this conversation I'll have majority ownership", or something. If she's not investing like you want, stop talking to her and talk to another girl and don't worry about her. If it's a meh interaction between you two then she'll try and bridge the gap one day but if she doesn't it's all good cause there's three other women right there to talk to. For rea…
/r/seduction01/04/21 06:41 PM
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Just talking from experience with the seven or so poly women I've been with. You can read whatever you want in my messages. Have fun.
/r/seduction01/04/21 06:29 PM
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You should talk to her and get to know her without caring too much about it. Approaching two other women while you're doing this will break your pre-Onitis. Just do it, you'll talk to hundreds of more women after her.
/r/seduction01/04/21 06:54 AM
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You need to get blown out a lot more, focus on your future and making yourself feel good everywhere you go. It's going to take a while and may come after you take risks in your personal life. Real talk you gotta go through the ringer until you don't give a damn about being good with women and you have a life that you appreciate for you. Have you tried making deep friendships with women you don't want to fuck? Make those acquaintances good solid friends. Having multiple female friends makes the w…
/r/seduction01/04/21 05:41 AM
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I feel like malls are good for getting into the field and building up a tolerance to opening but hard to get more than flakes if you actually try to close. You'll need to extract to a different locale within the mall and build rapport. Mostlikely she's with friends so this could be a lot to handle for logistics. Malls seem like hardmode. I'd go for a numbers game until an interaction hooks while not putting too much energy into keeping the conversation going. Doing an insta-date for later in the…
/r/seduction01/04/21 03:09 AM
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What do you want to do? It's more worthwhile to answer that rather than psyching yourself if this or that action is success or failure. Judging your success by thinking you have to do the right actions gives you an excuse to not take responsibility for your life. Do what you want to do and own it. If you want cute stuff go for lunch, if you want laid back have a few drinks real slick after work. Either one is cool if it's what you want to do.
/r/seduction01/04/21 03:01 AM
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Physical contact should be a regular, like every other few minutes, thing that comes naturally and sets the tone for how you interact with each other in the future. Thinking that there is some finisher move either takes you away from creating Physical touch in the moment or puts you into the almost sexual harassment realm. I personally think body proximity, how close your bodies are together, is a lot more solid than trying to get grabs. If you're bodies are close and your locking eyes she will …
/r/seduction31/03/21 09:32 PM
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Sounds like she's Poly. That's a big can of worms if you're willing to crack it open but I've found that a lot of Poly women are hard to manage if you have any hangups on exclusivity and multiple partners.
/r/seduction31/03/21 08:15 PM
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Thank you for saying this. Being caught up in pick up mind can be damaging especially if you had a little bit of success. If you can have a lively, deep, interesting conversation with anybody then game goes out the window; you're just having a fun interesting life. Vibing hard with old ladies is awesome.
/r/seduction31/03/21 08:05 PM
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I'm 33 now and it took me until about 28 for it to start clicking, 30 to really solidify. For real, invest in yourself more and build your dreams out. Relationships with women are a byproduct of your life not the running theme. Start rock climbing and writing and get some friends that are women that you don't want to fuck. If you have a good amount of them and just live your life they'll try and get you laid. Don't put so much pressure onto random conversations with people.
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:53 PM
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Incorporate randomness and chaos into your conversations. Details and interview questions aren't hot. Take a moment when she's investing more in the conversation than you to look for things that strike your memory with her. You are speaking with an unique individual and you can cold read traits. Is she wearing a lot of black? Emo chat. Does she talk in a funny cute way? Reference a cartoon that she reminds you of.. These are novel conversations that are endless. They will build unique experience…
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:47 PM
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When you become as comfortable in your untouchable state as you are in your vulnerable state things will flow much easier. Just realize that you are still you in each case. You can pull the most solid relationships from your not so on nights. Sometimes being too on can distance you from people since you're so much in your own frame. Be cool with both feelings and enjoy them.
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:43 PM
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Why put value in other people's random words rather than your own? I'd lean into and accentuate those parts that are weird, unique and quirky and lay it out on the table more so that you can get over this. Wash out the worry by interacting with a lot of women. Personally I think you're probably just not comfortable enough. Do things that make you feel good. I've seen way too many dudes, including me, do or say the wrong or "awkward" thing but when they own it it becomes the way YOU do things. Th…
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:39 PM
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Dudes need to start appreciating women, especially sex workers, as people. The ego high from fucking women disappears pretty quick. Like, make some stripper friends. They're amazing people typically.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:47 PM
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I'm the exact same way. I'm a demisexual and I've turned down opportunities for sex because that bond wasn't there. The sex be wack.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:31 PM
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Value the nut.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:13 PM
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The just want sex dudes don't have multiple women on call. Miss me with that scarcity.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:08 PM
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Thank you for saying this. It creates fuck boy behavior and you end up deleting energy from your life. There's plenty of 9s and 10s that suck as people and probably not good lays. Why have a link, no matter how much you don't give a fuck, with them. My energy is sacred.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:06 PM
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I don't get dating for marriage at all. Why put this pressure on anybody at any time? Especially yourself. Just don't fuck them for a while and work that game. Marriage material will bubble up when you got your shit right.
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:04 PM
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I don't know about most dudes but if I'm fucking a woman she's a part of my life. I don't like having loose ends in my circle.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:59 PM
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Yea that's why most of the women I talk to I don't get their numbers or try to game them up. I feel like this type of stuff is abundance mentality game but it's good for life in general.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:54 PM
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You're welcome! I remember how the community helped me over a decade ago and it feels good to come back to it and speak with confidence. It's all you baby. Enjoy your story.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:38 PM
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You got a girlfriend if you're only fucking one woman.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:27 PM
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Real talk, this has been my experience for solid high quality hookups that lead to fwb. I've only had 4 first night fucks in my life and 2 of them have been long term girlfriends.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:25 PM
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Get exactly what you want and forget about women. Get it semi close to social areas, bars and whatnot. If you're mobile you're good. What you want is what women want.
/r/seduction25/03/21 12:56 AM
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Totally, it became difficult to separate the two for me over time especially if you're looking for an extended fuck buddy. The lines start to blur. The ones you end up fucking ends up higher quality too.
/r/seduction25/03/21 12:52 AM
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Usually it is a clear lack of respect to the other person bundled with deep seated inadequacies within yourself. If you haven't broken through and initiated a date you should move on because you already psyched yourself out. Take this advice with a grain of salt but many years ago I would try to intentionally blow myself out if I liked a girl a little too much. Say the wrong things purposely. It shocked myself out of the love spell and it actually brought the relationship to reality twice. The o…
/r/seduction25/03/21 12:21 AM
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I think you learn the outer techniques to fake it till you make into a confident man. A lot of people need to be told the logical steps in order to break through. But the recently deleted individual is speaking some truth. Thinking that you do things in order to get the girl takes you away from actually experiencing the moment and seeing if you even really like her. Take your time and build relationships and see how these women can fit into your cool life and invite them into once they have inve…
/r/seduction15/03/21 04:53 AM
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I've leaned into my nervousness a bunch of times. I've even said, "sometimes a man gets nervous talking to a pretty girl", you can even make it a role play situation if it's genuine. I've even purposely did the nerd sniffle with a scratch of the head comically and it's funny. Putting a lot of energy into not being nervous or playing up the fact without letting it go pulls you out of state though. Anything is possible.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:10 AM
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I check in regularly to confirm that I'm on the right path. A lot of guys that study game have an illusion that being successful with women will solve most of their problems. I've had regular success with women coming up on 2 years since my breakup but once that stress layer has fallen you still have to live with yourself as a person. Most of this sub is focused on the first break to get you over that fear hump but even after you break it life happens and you have to be man, or woman, enough to …
/r/seduction02/03/21 07:30 AM
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I think it could be good as far as situational framing but unless you actually have good game, you're going to have a bad time.
/r/seduction23/05/19 03:37 AM
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Might sound counter-intuitive but friendzoning girls to build your friendgroup helps you gauge and temper your desire for the right times. When you're more about tailoring your energy in order to get girls you actually get more pent up in the wrong way. There is a good way to get pent up when it is exciting and fun and you're in control of your energy. Then it can feel good to get pent up and you have control of the pressure valve. When you're around women often it settles the "need" to release …
/r/seduction08/05/19 12:40 AM
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I was running game for at least 6 years before getting into a relationship so I've had my practice; almost like riding a bike. It's mostlikely pent up desire for women that I'm able to unleash without guilt. Believe me my old habits will rear its ugly head after some more rejections but I'm enjoying the running start.
/r/seduction08/05/19 12:11 AM
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