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Men. Men make laws, men make more money.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 02:42 AM
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everyone needs to acknowledge their privilege. As a group with the most, be it white, male, class its easy to ignore the privilege that you have. If you are truly interested in building an equal society, one must understand the privilege you have to keep it in check. Again, not saying this only applies to the majority. We understand your implications. You clearly don't because what you think i was saying is not at all what i was saying. Sorry for any confusion, but I by no means am saying that m…
/r/MensRights30/12/11 01:54 AM
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I've been falsely accuse of sexual assault. I lost some friends, thats the worst that happened. I'm not saying that its no big deal and i know i got pretty lucky but, I still deal with issues over it and it was nearly 3 years ago. It is bullshit. But it really is nothing on par with homophobia. Not to mention as shitty as it is to be accused of sexual assault here, there are some countries where women are killed for being raped or committing adultery. You don't have to have it the worst to have …
/r/MensRights29/12/11 10:12 PM
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I never said no one else had privilege. It's pretty ridiculous to assume that only a majority can have privilege. Everyone has some form of it, but some have more than others. No mater how much you have its important to acknowledge it, particularly if you are a majority or group with more power.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 10:00 PM
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Think what you want. I just really don't want to debate anyone tonight. Catch me another time and I'm sure I will, but right now I just want to enjoy my beer and Tom Waits.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:56 AM
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I never said it was the same universally. I'm just saying even in the most female friendly culture, men still have it a bit better. Like I said though, not really up for a debate tonight.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:49 AM
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Earth.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:44 AM
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Well, I believe we do. Really not here to debate that though.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:35 AM
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not what i was saying. I'm just saying the troubles faced by men that are based on sex aren't exactly comparable to say muslims, people of color, homosexuals. Are men part of these groups? Of course, I am a man and part of the latter. There aren't parts of the world where I can be tied to a fence, beaten and left to die for being a man, but there are more than a few that it can happen for my pansexuality.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:20 AM
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insert minority. Acknowledging privilege is not ignoring/belittling discrimination.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:05 AM
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This. Do men face problems? Yes. Do we have it relatively good? Yes.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 07:35 AM
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Funny, I've felt pretty welcome as a male in the movement.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 08:41 PM
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How is that "if you dont like it leave" mentality productive? Theory plays a huge role in any movement, it can be incredibly dangerous to purge all those with dissenting theories. Saying that anyone who isn't antifeminist isn't welcome is just sad. You alienate a whole group of people who may be interested in your movement. I for one am interested but I don't really feel like being downvoted to oblivion and getting "WHITE KNIGHT" yelled at me every time I express a feminist view on an issue. For…
/r/MensRights28/12/11 08:32 PM
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I disagree with that. I have not witnessed this "fuck men, women must rule all!" attitude that I hear MRAs complain about in modern feminism outside of radfem, which I don't see as any different from the inequalists in the MRA movement. They suck and hurt both movements. If you feel that feminism has done nothing to help men, thats fine. I don't see why that means the MRA movement has to be antifeminist.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 09:01 AM
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Thats not what you seemed to be saying. Maybe I just read it wrong but it seemed like you were saying 'if you don't think like us, leave'. It's one thing to try and expel trolls this way, but keytud was offering critiques of the movement. This should be embrace and taken into consideration. This doesn't mean you have to conform to what the critic says, but its important to think about why they feel that way, try an see things from their point of view.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 08:44 AM
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Beautifully said. I have only been around here regularly for a couple days and I am amazed at how true #1 is. I feel like it distracts so much from what could be a valid argument. It's a turn off, I would like to contribute to discussions but I feel like anything I say that may have feminist leanings will just get me labeled "white knight".
/r/MensRights28/12/11 05:01 AM
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so get in line or shut up? is that the message here?
/r/MensRights28/12/11 04:23 AM
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How? She would have left the room. No, under your logic, she really didn't mean "no". We can talk all day about what she could have done to prevent the rape, but thats just putting the blame on her when the real blame belongs on him. He felt a need to persuade her into not feeling guilty. Again he didn't believe she was unwilling, she knew this, and she didn't reaffirm her unwillingness. Saying "no" should be enough to let him know shes unwilling. If verbal persuasion didn't convince her, he sho…
/r/MensRights28/12/11 01:36 AM
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It's not that your mentality lead to her assault, it's that mine is less dangerous because it would prevent unpleasant sex when there is no intent to rape. What made the sex unpleasant for her was the fact she was being raped. Under my logic, he would have stopped and she wouldn't have been raped, or as you like to call it, they wouldnt have had unpleasant sex. Under your logic, where no doesn't mean no, what would happen is exactly what happened. So he thought she was would be willing if he cou…
/r/MensRights27/12/11 11:47 PM
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I'm asking how my mentality is what lead to her assault. In response to your edit. If she says "no" thats making clear there is no consent. At that point, he knew there was no consent, the only point where he could have thought she changed her mind is after he performed a sexual act on her.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 09:03 PM
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Please explain that.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 08:42 PM
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Are you serious? You really think adults cant be intimidated? Or are you just attempting to destroy my credibility by calling me sexist? I'm done with this, you are resorting to cheap tactics. You clearly have nothing of value left to say.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 08:31 PM
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She felt intimidated. I can find other sources that will list that after "force or threats". That doesn't really matter though, you are trying to distract from the real issue.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 08:05 PM
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No. She gave no consent to the oral sex he performed on her, the "consent" she gave after that was coerced.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 07:50 PM
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So? She doesn't need to punch the guy to say "no". She gave no consent, he performed a sexual act, thats the bottom line.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 07:34 PM
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I don't think it's dangerous. You should give an example or reason. You are spreading a mentality that could lead to someone getting hurt. That is why its dangerous. The man had no malice, and no intention of raping her. Why didn't he stop? I don't know. That doesn't really matter. What matters is that he didn't.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 07:20 PM
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So what, she didn't fight back hard enough? Thats such bullshit. No means no. It doesn't mean "yes unless i fight back, then it really means yes". He should have stopped, if it really meant "yes" when she said "no" she could have continued it from there.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 10:10 AM
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Consider a hypothetical situation where someone is raping another person, and the rapist says "no". By the reasoning of your platitude, the rapist was a victim of rape. This clearly isn't the case though. In fact is quite absurd. Actions overrule words. The rapists was not raped because they consented to sex by their own actions. This is honestly pretty mind blowing. Not even sure how to reply to this. Do the rapists actions speak louder than words? Yes. Does no still mean no? Of course. You see…
/r/MensRights27/12/11 09:45 AM
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by going down on them after they have said "no"? I hope that's not what you mean.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 09:28 AM
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That video is indeed rape. But so is what happened to this girl. I hope to god you have never "convinced" anyone to have sex.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 09:04 AM
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Whats terrifying is that you think "no" doesn't always mean no. If he/she says "no" you stop. Bottom line. I don't care if they spent all night telling you all the different ways they want to fuck you, the second "no" is uttered, no matter how sincere you believe it is, you stop. If they just said that for no reason and really do want to continue, they will let you know then you may continue. If you do anything after "no" there is no consent and it is assault.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 09:52 PM
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You seem to be forgetting the part where she said "no" and he "convinced" her by going down on her. That is forcing the drink down my throat.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 09:30 PM
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she did say "no" thats the bottom line. You're basic argument is that 'sometimes, "no" doesn't really mean no.' which is terrifying.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 09:29 PM
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That is a ridiculous statement.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 09:17 AM
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There doesn't have to be a threat for there to be coercion. He essentially peer pressured her into saying "yes". The bottom line is that she said "no". Anything after that, like him going down on here, is sexual assault.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 09:12 AM
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if you don't want to be raped, you should yell "STOP" and make an effort get the hell out of there. You do not mumble "no" and then willfully comply just so that you can call it rape after the fact. I think you're on to something. Lets go ahead and draft up a playbook so that we know when "no" really means "no". ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights26/12/11 08:57 AM
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Coercion is not persuasion. It's terrifying that you don't see this as assault.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 08:53 AM
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