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Not what the Quran say. Can you provide my with any madhab ( schools of thought in Islam) that says female testimony is equal to that of a man?
/r/MensRights23/06/23 03:29 AM
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No I implied men and women have almost equal score in IQ. The average man and women are equal in intelligence.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 03:14 AM
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Physical strength has nothing to do with ruling society. And men are not smarter than women.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 03:09 AM
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Nonsense. Quote: Based mostly on a 2011 UNICEF report, partial list of countries where a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man: Bahrain (in Sharia courts for hadd and qisas)[26] Egypt (in family courts except for divorce)[27] Iran (in most cases except tazir)[28] Iraq (in some cases)[29] Jordan (in Sharia courts for marriage)[30] Kuwait (in family courts)[31] Libya (in some cases)[32] Morocco (in family cases though not for divorce)[33] Palestine (in cases related to marriage, divorce an…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 03:05 AM
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That's because men are physically stronger than women therefore they can protect themselves against female violence.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 03:03 AM
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The posts talks about crimes against males and not legal differences between men and women.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:59 AM
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Would you rather be a woman or a man living in a Islamic country such as Afghanistan?
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:55 AM
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Muhammad married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her at age 9.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:55 AM
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An example of male supremacy is Fresh and Fit podcast on youtube.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:13 AM
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A form of injustice is being forced to veil and cover your entire body even when the temperatures are high and hot. A form of injustice is being under the authority of a male guardian just for the sake of being a woman. If men were under the guardianship of a woman MRAS would be the first to call it out it out as a form of injustice.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:42 AM
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Yeah I agree that those responsibilities are outdated.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:32 AM
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In Saudi Arabia covering up your body is indeed the norm. Oppression is when one group suppresses and exert injustice towards another group. By that definition women are indeed oppressed in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan and maybe in Sudan too. Children are under authority of their parents because they are not mentally developed. To justify male authority over women you have to make the case that women are less mentally developed and intelligent compared to their husbands.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:30 AM
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Depends on how you define domestic violence and sexual assault.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:28 AM
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Islam is a sexist religion. I'm an ex Muslim so I know Islam better than you do. Responsibilities are not oppression. We have responsibiities towards our children but that does not mean we are oppressed. Also, In Islam a woman's intellect is considred half that of a men and which is why a woman's testimony is considered half of another man. A woman also get half the inheritance as her brother.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:24 AM
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The white feather movement was started by an army admiral man named Charles Fitzgerald using women to shame men into enlisting in the army.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:21 AM
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If gender roles consist of being under a guardianship of a male authority and having to cover up your entire body in a black bag then yeah I would consider that oppression.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:19 AM
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OP is talking about mostly crime against males. It's better being a man in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afghanistan then it is being a woman.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:16 AM
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Supporting your wife is not a form of oppression.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:16 AM
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Go research gender and law in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iran.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:14 AM
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Before Islam there were female merchants and some of the Arabs worshipped female goddesses.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:38 PM
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No he wasn't lool. Muhammad married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:37 PM
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The idea was implemented by her. Therefore her product.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:34 PM
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A man can get a job, education, and have multiple wives in Afghanistan.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:15 PM
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Doesn't matter. It was still her idea. Women invented other stuff too like kevlar the material used in bulletproof vests or chocolate chip cookies.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:15 PM
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Before Islamization of Iran and Afghanistan, women wore skirts and went to universities.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:11 PM
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Having obligations is not oppression. Denying the right to be independent and autonomous is.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:05 PM
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That's wrong. In Islam women are deficient in intellect therefore men are the maintainers of women and a woman's testimony is half that of a man. A woman can also not become a leader of an Islamic caliphate. Gender equality does not exist in Islam.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 10:04 PM
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They don't believe in gender equality because of religious reasons.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:43 PM
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Yes so it's justified.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:37 PM
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OP talked about mostly crimes against males in Muslim countries. The OPs post didn't negate the fact that men still have more privilege in legal rights, independence and autonomy compared to women in many Muslim countries.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:33 PM
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Saudi Arabia is not a dangerous society yet women still need male guardians there. Patriarchies exist. Get over it.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:28 PM
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Yes men do have more rights. In Saudi Arabia husbands exert guardianship over their wives but a wife does not exert guardianship over her husband.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:14 PM
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So is female genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:13 PM
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That is not the point. The point I made was that there is no legal barriers for men to attend college compared to Afghan women.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:10 PM
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Quote: "The Taliban banned female students first from secondary schools, then later from universities in August 2021. Afghan talk about what their lives have become without schooling.Apr 9, 2023" https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2023/04/09/my-only-sin-is-being-a-girl-four-afghan-women-talk-about-500-days-of-being-denied-education-by-the-taliban.html#:~:text=The%20Taliban%20banned%20female%20students,lives%20have%20become%20without%20schooling. Men are drafted because they are more physically c…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:09 PM
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They don't view as oppression because covering up and male guardianship is part of their interpretation of the Islamic religion. Therefore Saudi women feel its right to cover up and they should obey their male guardians because the religion tells them to do so.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:05 PM
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Because Saudi Arabia has lots of money and women are brainwashed to think that by being oppressed they are pleasing their God.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:01 PM
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There are reasons for why men get drafted and women don't. And both men and women get executed if they commit adultery according to ISlamic law. Aside from that point, men still have more independence, autonomy and educational opportunities than women in Afghanistan.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 09:00 PM
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Yeah but men are allowed to go to college in Afghanistan. Women are not.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:56 PM
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Most women would not want to live in that kind of reality where they have to cover up their whole body and be under the authority of a male guardian.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:49 PM
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Instead of being sarcastic maybe you should look at the position of women in countries such as Saudi Arabia ( run by men) where women have to cover themselves up in black bags and needing their male guardian's permission to go do things. In Islam men are the maintainers of women. In Afghanistan its even worse for instance women are being denied getting education at universities.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:45 PM
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Have fun wearing black bags in public and needing your male guardian's permission to go do things.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:37 PM
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Men have more independence and autonomy in many Muslim countries compared to women.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:31 PM
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Would you rather be a woman or a man if you were living in Saudi Arabia?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:21 PM
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Because men have more autonomy in those Muslim countries compared to women.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 08:00 PM
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Women are systematically oppressed in some Muslim countries.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 07:24 PM
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Boys still end up in higher paying and more important professions such as construction and engineering.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:40 PM
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We don't know how matriarchies would turn out because there has never been a civilization (except maybe the Minoans) that was matriarchal.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:36 PM
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Hitler was a man. Was he naturally more calm and contained and appear to make better choices?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:34 PM
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Women don't create? I can debunk this with one example: the dating app Bumble was invented by a woman.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:32 PM
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Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong were all men.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:29 PM
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