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So what? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:46 AM
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Therefore...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:44 AM
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And sex isn't as visceral as heroin. You are the one lumping activities together just because they impact brain chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:33 AM
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Children growing with single moms lose any male role model, they mess up in dating because they have no clue of that dynamic or how conflict resolution is done. But you would raise your daughter to expect these same men to commit to her for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:23 AM
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Running is something people do to get high. Looking at smart phones is something people do to get high. Eating chocolate is something people do to get high.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:08 AM
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None of this has anything to do with sex being a "drug-like" experience that "tricks your brain." The majority of people who DON'T have casual sex would also think you might be boring if you didn't drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:52 AM
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We're discussing whether it's useful to raise a child to EXPECT the opposite sex not to consider divorce, which is a complete departure from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:41 AM
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Of course, because they are in fewer social situations where inhibitions lowered. And I still have no fucking idea what you're talking about: For this reason, I think recreational sex is inextricably coupled with other types of drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:38 AM
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Almost none of what you reference is a current issue with the legal institution of marriage. I've seen little evidence that a woman partnered to a man is harmed by marrying that man. Do you have evidence that women living with men do less housework when they are not married? Do they live longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:04 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:55 AM
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It's important for their sense of home and understanding of what they should expect from the opposite sex A child learning to expect that their partner will never leave isn't that useful if they end up marrying someone outside the cult who is unwilling to martyr their life to your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:53 AM
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Noted. I disagree that different values around travel are meaningless. I disagree that different values around sex are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 11:23 PM
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Valuing travel is a value. Valuing sleeping around is a value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 11:15 PM
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Are you asking about dating apps? Or approaching in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:04 PM
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I'm not misunderstanding you. I'm just pointing out that you are seeking someone with completely different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:39 PM
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Your title is about physical attractiveness. That is not how "desireability" is measured in the study you cite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:33 PM
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You would choose to be promiscuous. You want to date women who choose not to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:18 PM
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That’s why women ask men what they do. Jobs, success, and titles are all status markers, not moral scorecards. You really can't imagine other reasons to ask a date what they do for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:16 PM
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But you're seeking a woman with completely different values and preferences from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:09 PM
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This is supposedly during the time the women were at their “peak” in terms of beauty which we know is highly valued among men. What are you implying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:08 PM
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What does "waiting" mean in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:07 PM
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But then men are just as entitled. Some women make these profiles. Some men make these profiles. The men aren't any less entitled just because women are less willing to entertain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 11:06 AM
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Of course they can't, if they aren't participating in society or developing the social skills to even make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:58 PM
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But it doesn't sound like this is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:46 PM
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No, that would be very picky or even extremely picky. Too picky means excessively picky. It is judgmental and pejorative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:35 PM
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Not picky, "too picky." That's what we're discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:17 PM
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If dating a man you don't like is just an inconvenience, then men should be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:11 PM
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Aren't they also becoming less likely to be in school, less likely to work, more likely to identify as having a disability, and less likely to have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:09 PM
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I don't think any of these arguments are valid. But if women are too picky for not dating men they don't like, men would be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:58 PM
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But literally everything you said would apply. if that woman then also has men around her that treat her well and like her, but does not have any desire to date them? She's too picky. If what you like leaves you alone and dissatisfied, there's dysfunction that needs to be addressed. Same goes for men. If the only thing you want to eat for the rest of your life is fish, and you live in a desert, you have a problem and it's nobody's fault but your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:50 PM
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These argument would find hetero men too picky for not dating gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:21 PM
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And if that woman then also has men around her that treat her well and like her, but does not have any desire to date them? She's too picky. Her wanting to date men she likes is being too picky... that's a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:46 PM
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So this is a debate post where people are supposed to assume OPs position, instead of reading what he wrote? Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:28 PM
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Then they're free to make posts and comments about whatever it is, instead of just saying "less."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:20 PM
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We're discussing this: The most obvious and easily deductable metric of either gender having it worse is men having less dating opportunities My personal experience does not confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:11 PM
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I don't know whether men have it worse. I do know that I used to have a lot more matches and dating options when I was younger, but that my dating life is much better now when I have fewer. So I'd never say that more opportunities are automatically better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:04 PM
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Again, are you saying: "Men have it worse- debate me!" Or are you asking people to debate a different part of this? You're all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:47 PM
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You see a lot of those profiles, because people like this are more likely to be single and online longer. I've seen a lot of men's profiles like this too. But they are not representative of genders, or even people who have been hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:39 PM
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And that's the issue? That women don't agree that men have it worse? I'm genuinely trying to understand the point of your post and what you want people to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:32 PM
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considering their objectively more dating opportunities to be not worth it because "getting a date" is proportionally better for men I honestly don't know what you are talking about... You think women sit around and say, "I would date, but it's not worth it because men have it better?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:24 PM
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"Hold on, you are easy to satisfy, you shouldn't complain! I expect your one match in a month that actually turns into a conversation to be much more of a guarantee of satisfaction! You like boobs, no?" What is the real life pattern you're describing here? I'm not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:10 PM
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That would definitely prove the point that young men are working off an "old script."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:18 PM
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And yet the hypothetical fuck boy does not have them...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:13 PM
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So why have you framed your post about women's entitlement, if the reason for the imbalance is because men choose to pursue these women because it makes them feel good? Both men and women make these terrible profiles. According to you, only women get attention for it... because it makes men feel good. What does that have to do with women's expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:52 PM
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If it's not for sexual points, what's it for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:47 PM
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How would you judge whether people are the right amount of picky or too picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:32 PM
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"More than likely your parents met at a social function and that was pretty much it. Today’s pickiness has gotten a little out of control." My dad wasn't good for my mom. Many of my peers feel the same way about their parents. I'm picky because I don't want what they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:33 AM
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I think that's a stupid reason to think there can't be a worse gender in dating. There was a time when the majority of men in the US thought that domestic violence was appropriate in marriage. I think that a gender that physically assaults you is worse, even if math still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:24 AM
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He's saying it's irrelevant if either is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:14 AM
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Sub5?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:11 AM
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You're saying that you want people to debate whether worse and good are relative?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:13 AM
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To be clear, are you saying that women don't consider stability, profession, or income when choosing a partner to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:11 AM
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What exactly do you want to "debate?" The average man is the average man. The average woman is the average woman. You've decided they're equal, even if one is actually worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:59 AM
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Even if men were objectively worse than women, there would still be a top 20% of men and top 20% of women. There's a too 20% of Harvard graduates and a top 20% of Phoenix University...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:48 AM
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You haven't provided any argument to support your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:43 AM
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White knights?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:13 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:57 AM
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And you are here talking about how bad women are, and women are here saying not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:30 AM
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Why are you being condescending?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:13 AM
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That sounds like the same comments here. Some women do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:03 AM
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So... the thing that happens online that you can document... It's when it goes on the internet that I can actually document it. ...is what you see in real life... I see these women do it in real life ...but you you can't figure out what's hard to understand about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:57 AM
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I didn't say depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:51 AM
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It's hard to understand what evidence you're seeing of men responding to whiny women's dating profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:43 AM
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I personally am not. I'm saying it's reasonable for someone to assume that. Male suicide rates certainly suggest that men have plenty of mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:40 AM
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It's just as reasonable to make the assumption that men need mental health services that they don't choose to get, and that women take the toll of undiagnosed and untreated mental illness in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:36 AM
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CDC: "Nearly one in four women received any mental health treatment (24.7%) in the past 12 months, compared with 13.4% of men"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:27 AM
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It's when it goes on the internet that I can actually document it. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:07 AM
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How do you know that the whiny men get no attention, and the whiny women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:02 AM
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"Ladies" don't do that. There are a small percentage of both men and women with these bizarre profiles. I've seen plenty of men with whiny profiles complaining about how every woman has wronged them, and how women are terrible. No man could do this and get any positive attention at all. Are you complaining that you choose to give positive attention to women who act like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:29 AM
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If red pill convinces an average-height incel that height is the reason they'll never have sex, is that "working?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:15 AM
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This is still a huge part of our culture. Guys in here are constantly complaining about alimony, even though marriage rates have never been lower, and only 10% of divorces have alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:12 AM
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The optimism here is something... but they also have no problem becoming "husband material." there's still nothing stopping them from starting a relationship on the fly. there's nothing stopping them from becoming more responsible and achieving success later. Achieving success is just something you can do "on the fly!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:10 AM
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Would you say that women do not consider stability, living situation, profession, or income at all in deciding who to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:38 PM
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You used the word "hot" once... when you went back to edit your comment and added it... Not the kind of conversation I am interested in continuing to participate in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:32 PM
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If he's married, it's not his stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:53 PM
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Seems like you're not willing or not able to define what you mean by the standard of the male gaze, so we can leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:50 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 10% of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:37 PM
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I do not know your definition of the "standard of the male gaze." That's what we're discussing here. People have sexualized all kinds of clothes, from nuns outfits to cop uniforms. I thinks it's ridiculous to say that everyone who wears them is doing it to provoke sexual attention, much less to confirm with the "standard of the male gaze."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:23 PM
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If you're checking out every woman, you're not being "provoked" by tank tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:33 PM
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Not appropriate for either, or both? Sweatpants are not appropriate in most offices. For the male gaze? Most people are comfortable wearing short shorts around their family. For the male gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:23 PM
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the standard they’re using is still for the male gaze. Tell me more about the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:30 PM
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Are you trying to express agreement or disagreement with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:04 PM
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Beyonce concert, the crowd is typically dressed their best, even though few men are there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:00 PM
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If you watch footage of attendees at a Beyonce concert, the crowd is typically dressed their best, even though few men are there. There's plenty of real life evidence that women dress well in situations where sexual attention from men is nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:55 PM
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Many women haven't had a ho phase. "I've never had a ho phase" =/= "no women have casual sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:46 PM
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Is this the only place you interact with women...?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:41 PM
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I hear women talking about their "ho phases" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:39 PM
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What's make believe is pretending that no women ever have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:35 PM
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men of all attractiveness levels lie to get casual sex, simply because it works. Being highly attractive works without the lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:59 AM
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My favorite theory is that the most attractive men are the ones who lie to have casual sex... because that makes sense... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:39 AM
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A warm approach is getting to know someone through friends and at social events. At most, it's becoming acquaintances before asking someone out, not direct friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:35 AM
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There's a universe between "cold approach" and "pretend to be friends with women you want to date." How did the warm approach disappear? Is it collateral damage from the general decline in social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:22 AM
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I'm asking about now. You say that both men and women used to be rewarded for prosocial behavior. But now men are not. Are women still rewarded for prosocial behavior? Could you describe that today?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:50 PM
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In your mind, are women rewarded for being prosocial?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:30 PM
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Pointing out women’s provisioning doesn’t erase the fact that male provisioning was historically tied to reproductive success. Both were essential. So how does a two-income household erase men being providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:37 PM
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There's no "antidote" to communicating with someone you're starting to date and may get serious with. That's kinda the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:35 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:32 PM
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What mistake? I don't understand what you think went wrong here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:28 PM
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How do women get divorced more than men in hetero relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:25 PM
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Women do pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:24 PM
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Could you articulate your problem here? It sounds like you're really upset that she didn't assume that you have one night stands? Is that the issue? Why exactly does it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:22 PM
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Getting married before 25 is associated with higher divorce rates...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:30 PM
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Jesus Christ- do you think you are "centering" every person you interact with?? You go get your tires rotated and you're "centering" the mechanic when you pay the bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:02 AM
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I don't see women celebrating the fact that they are "the primary source of men’s well-being." you still want women to be the source of men's happiness and success in life though. No we don't. All the women I talk to are begging men to find other sources of emotional and social support. Being the ONLY person a man turns to and depends on is crushing and suffocating! I see women begging men to go to therapy, invest in their friendships, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:58 AM
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"Blame" is only appropriate when it is someone's responsibility, when you are entitled to something from someone. I might be a lot healthier and happier if I could stop working and you started giving me a monthly allowance of $10,000. There might even be research to back it up! Does that make it your responsibility to give me a huge allowance? Of course not. Are you to blame for me not reaching my highest potential level of happiness and health? No! You didn't do anything to me, and I'm not enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:54 AM
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Exactly, it's so easy to look it up. Anyone who has put the smallest amount of effort into this knows the stats. SO WHY WERE YOU OFF BY 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:30 AM
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I'm very familiar with those stats. So again, how did you come to believe what you said? It's very concerning that you and OP are confidently stating numbers DOUBLE what the research says. Why is this happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:19 AM
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3/5 men in their 20s havent had sex in a year. Why do you believe this??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:05 AM
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But 60% of Men ages 18-29 haven't had sex in an entire year. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:20 AM
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