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It seems, from my perspective, that TRP advocates that young men need fathers, but also says to never date/marry single mothers and attack them as well. Sorry TRP, you can't have it both ways! Why is the onus always on us to fix women's fuck ups lol? Women are the choosers, learn how to choose men that aren't useless / will actually stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:04 PM
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to other Europeans. Fixed the end of your post for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 08:47 AM
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Attractiveness (personal style, healthy weight, mannerisms, etc.) Part of this - style and mannerisms, are cultural differences (can't argue weight). Europeans seem like uptight, over dressed entitled undateable douchebags, by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:44 AM
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Weirdly it's the 70% that are overweight or obese who are likely to be the not singles lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:03 AM
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I dunno if huner-gatherer tribes were really loosely hierarchial, the modification of farming and then industrial society is just the opportunity for larger concentrations of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:52 AM
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If women preferentially date /marry men higher in socioeconomic status than themselves, aren't all men essentially paying for sex (once a year;)) from their wives, but with an extra layer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:55 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/202108/how-often-friends-become-lovers#:~:text=This%20limited%20focus%20might%20be,romantic%20relationships%20start%20from%20friendship 68% of relationships start out as friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:59 PM
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Or maybe somewhat less physically attractive women are more willing to be bang maids. Who cares if she's a supermodel if she's high maintenance, useless, and sucks at giving head or is a starfish? If you had to choose been some uptight hot bitch who knows she's hot, and somewhat less attractive woman who works for it? Somewhat less attractive woman might be way less effort and more reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:08 AM
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One reason could be that women have a much shorter shelf life on dating apps. I always feel like these statistics are misleading. Tinder is 80% men and 20% women, but how many days / months / years do the users spend on tinder, how many hours interacting with the app, how many hours before first match, how long to the first date, how long until they meet a suitable f-buddy or romantic partner and delete the app? I'm willing to bet in large part some of the difference can be explained by the 20% …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:35 PM
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You can only have so many 'handicaps' Be short? OK. Be short, but also poor and fat? Be short, but also poor, fat, severely depressed and alcoholic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:43 AM
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I have a better trick, go to therapy, get on medication, deal with your shit. And not like, the 3 free therapy sessions you get after calling the suicide helpline, go every week. For half a decade. Shit, maybe a decade. Everything you just described is rooted in unresolved mental health issues or childhood trauma or imitating your parents shitty relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:50 AM
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Define early and define who. IRC the most successful marriages now are basically university educated people who marry mid to late 20s after meeting in university or just after university. Also, I reckon more or less it comes down to whether or not you have mental health issues / childhood trauma and what you've done to deal with it. If you drill down into the numbers for successful marriages between university educated people it's much more likely to be successful when both partners are from UMC…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:48 AM
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A minimum wage employee with no children or wife has as disposable income that he controls as a married man, and more free time. So probably a life of cheap pleasures and low stress. Japan, basically - these men arguably have better lives than middle class / working class men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:02 AM
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No we don't. What does Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg do that benefits working class men in Alabama?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:04 AM
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Yeah if you're paying child support you also don't have the child. Using the surrogate you have be financially and physically responsible for the child but they can't take it away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:21 AM
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Women who don't get alimony still get half the shit. >And if you think child support cost more than actually being financially and physically responsible for the child When did I say that? ​ Why would someone use a surrogate mom if they weren't ready and willing to be financially and physically responsible for the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:00 AM
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https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity ~40% of 20-39 year olds are overweight or obese; in some demographics, eg black women that number is 60%. 20% of 12-19 year olds are overweight or obese. So yeah I'd guess that average for dating age people is probably slightly overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:45 PM
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I think if you had high income a surrogate would be better than gambling on a low income woman / stay at home wife without a career, but simply marrying a career woman would probably still be better than the surrogate. The reason I say it's better than gambling on a low income woman / stay at home wife is that while the law will make you responsible for paying for the woman and child even if she divorces you (and takes the child away from you...), the law will not hold her responsible for carryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:44 PM
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The core point is to make money which for tinder is largely done by getting men to pay. To have a chance men need to be at the front of the queue, ideally with women with relatively new accounts - thus boosts, superboosts, tinder platinum etc. Because of the way ELO works boosting also craters your ELO meaning once you start doing it you can only get matched via boosts (basically, normally once you get left swiped by attracftive women you stop being shown to them and your ELO stabilizes - with b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:21 PM
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Sure, but women tend to sleep with alot of men that under the hood they are hoping will marry them / commit to a long term relationship with them that they don't actually have much of a hope of getting. Most of this doesn't happen at a conscious level. Much anger is thus created.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:47 PM
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"We are angry about being oppressed and controlled sexually by apex men, give us our freedom so that we can volunteer as on-call hookers for apex men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:06 PM
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The sexual revolution was for women who wanted sexual liberation. They got it. They wanted freedom and what they got was volunteering as free of charge neoprostitutes in rotational harems for a small group of men who will never marry them lol. Huge win
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:59 PM
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Women match alot faster and more frequently on tinder, it would be more useful to compare these stats over time. (i.e., is it 75% - 25% because 65% of men are always on there whereas the 25% of women are turning over frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:42 AM
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She's also spinning plates and you fell out of the rotation bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:12 AM
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Nah it's because 30th percentile women get dicked down by 90th percentile men off tinder and spend way to long thinking they have a chance of marrying that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:57 PM
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You can't give them a second chance because they think they are giving you a second chance. People get super locked into their perception of you when they first know you and take a long time to change their perception of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:22 AM
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> own consciousness. An enormous portion of what makes you you is not conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:52 AM
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>Stop trying to come up with biological explanations for human behavior and instead use the fact that people are ALIVE and PRESENT right now and you can ask them to explain why they like x, y or z. No need for convoluted theories. A substantial portion of your behaviour and personality is in parts of the brain that the 'you' that answers questions about how they behave has no control over and no knowledge of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:11 AM
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>Usually single girls will prioritize relationships first and will try to get commitment from you. Its possible to get NSA sex from them but not common. Just signal willingness to commit and generally they'll start putting out. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:18 PM
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After all, tens of thousands of their ancestors clearly managed to get laid and reproduce. Under what circumstances? They might be happy to go back to the circumstances under which those ancestors reproduced, though. I guess we could liquidate 10% of combat age men in Europe again, or maybe do like the Romans did with the Sabines? I could give a thousand other examples. I'm not an incel to be clear but I think it's disingenuous to just blame it all on unattractive men; this is the world that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:38 AM
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Yeah because you dont need to. But if you make 90k a year and are choosing between a 25 yo starbucks barista who looks like marilyn monroe and a teacher who looks like margaret thatcher but makes 80k, things get alot mlre murky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:17 AM
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"We are controlled by whatever or whomever bestows what we want or removes what we dont want. If you really want to be free, you must not want or desire anything controlled by others or wish to remove anything controlles by others." - Epictetus (slight paraphrase from Art of Living)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:37 AM
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In the civilized parts of the world 18 year olds and sometimes 16 year olds can drink at a bar lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:11 PM
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Wrong question. Men are the same. Women got jobs, more power, better education. And now men aren't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:47 PM
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Yeah men marry later but its 27-30 year old men marrying 25 year old women not 40 year old men marrying 20 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:42 PM
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Well Seeking Arrangement exist but to get what TRP fantasised about you probably need 4-5k a month of free cash flow to finance it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:41 PM
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Women essentially universally marry older men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships ​ Which results in more men being never married than women, a gap which doesn't close until retirement: https://flowingdata.com/2017/11/01/who-is-married-by-now/ ​ There is a birth gap in the number of men and women: https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/ ​ tl;dr. There are more young men than women due to disparity in births, women marry at …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:50 PM
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Well, if SpaceX keeps going the way it is we can just deport them all to the moon colony or mars colony
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:20 AM
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Absolutely, as long as she makes 2x my income and is bringing significantly more assets to go with her presumed professional deep throat skillz That being said, while 5-15 might pass as caroussel I'd be more worried about girls getting into the 30,40, 50+ 'who knows' range. 5-15 is basically high school boyfriend, college boyfriend, post-college boyfriend, and a couple of random hookups in between each.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:13 AM
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A 1.9m tall actor / comedian / screenwriter getting laid is proof TRP is wrong? bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:57 AM
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Jaw enhancement surgery I guess Be fit, but not necessarily arnold schwarzenegger and not chris froome or a kenyan runner Have a great personality, be intelligent / humorous Have high social status in a group Don't forget to tell all your competitors that chicks love 35 year old bald powerlifter bodies, so that they should go monk mode until they can squat 400kg and their muscles are so big their 4" cock is completely inaccessible, because chicks love that. Gotta remove the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:29 AM
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Because she isn't walking around in public with the guy off tinder whose house she drives 50km to to get ass blasted at in the middle of the night, she's walking around in public with the one that actually agreed to date her / offer some kind of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:42 AM
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Move cities every 3 to 5 years solves that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:05 AM
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I really think this sub would be better if the mods enforced effort guidelines; i.e. remove all the shitty one sentence posts that are usually the ten top upvoted comments on every post. ​ But not starting with this one lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:25 AM
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Are we calling anyone who isn't a gigachad with an anger management problem a simp now or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:49 AM
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I'm sure that we will eventually see 70 year old women on tinder demanding "high value men". Somewhat related but I browsed SA profiles a bit, and there are a decent amount of 30-40 year old fatties asking for thousands of dollars for platonic relationships lmao ​ The worst part is I'm sure someone is buying
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:24 AM
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I wish this red pill "philosopher" thing would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:15 PM
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Women are privleged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:13 PM
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Tinder and Bumble penalize you if you swipe right or left on to many people, and it's all a crap shoot anyway, so I like to do a left swipe then right swipe pattern while doing something else. Sometimes two right one left, sometimes two left, one right, sometimes right right, left left. Gotta keep the algorithm guessing, also never look at the screen. May the online dating gods smile upon you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:18 AM
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I don't know if you've ever read this subreddit or red pill but I think most men here have much worse criticisms of women than them having a stank pussy the opens like a moldy grilled cheese sandwich
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:52 AM
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I don't have any stats to back this up but my purely anecdotal experience is I know alot of women who are or were bisexual / lesbian / open to fooling around with women in college / early 20's who eventually married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:46 AM
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That the truth is found in evolutionary psychology and red pill, blue pill and FDS are all 'wrong' in their own ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:28 AM
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More sex probably, more resources, no. The richest and most powerful men in the world are all 'betas' by the TRP conception of the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:59 AM
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Humans do exist in status / dominance hierarchies although they are significantly more complicated than primate ones, although that often has nothing to do with the TRP concept of it and terms like 'alpha' and 'beta' are hazy at best, and cringeworthy always.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:58 AM
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Cool, let me know when you are a famous actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:32 PM
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FYI, I don't think anyone considered the Matrix to be a metaphor for being transgender until after the Wachowski's came out and said the red pill was referring to their hormone pills, which was after TRP already existed and 'taking the red pill or the blue pill' was a cultural thing for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:22 PM
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The most ridiculous part of is the black and white thinking IMO. Humans are adaptive maters and can do both r type and k type mating depending on genetics and environmental factors (but note that the genetic factors are mostly triggerable by environment). TRP along with the predecessor PUA strategies basically serve to filter out k-type women and find r-type women. FDS basically filters out men engaging in r-type strategies in favour of ones pursuing k-type strategies. The truth is evolutionary …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:20 PM
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In the west they call it seeking arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:44 AM
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Is there an article? These things are always god awful to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:46 AM
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Is this a zoomer thing? I've always thought photographing people without their permission (even after the advent of cell phones and the smart phones) was extremely rude / not acceptable, but I've noticed for instance at work that the zoomer-age graduate engineers frequently take stealth photos of coworkers and share them on group chats.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:53 AM
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23 year olds are 'old men' to 18 year olds. Shit in university girls called 19 year olds old balls when they were 17
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:09 AM
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I think you underestimate how hard moving countries is. Moving between anglo countries is difficult enough in two ways - one, basically only people with 90th+ percentile incomes / education can get in, two, the cultural differences between Canada and Australia or USA and NZ etc are larger than you'd think. Especially going from Canada / USA out of north america because non-north american anglo's are heavily exposed to north american culture but we are not exposed to Kiwi/Aus/Uk culture for the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:05 AM
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Since both men and women invest significantly in their mate and children it stands to reason that men would be evolved to select women who were better gatherers just as women are evolved to select men who are better hunters. How the attributes that make good gatherers translate into modern women I'm not sure - probably in general intelligence and memory, and traits like industriousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:29 AM
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Cool, let me know if you have any data sources for percentage of women dating or having sex with men x years older than themselves. The published data I can find is primarily about marriage which I propose is at least a reasonable proxy. And every day you get older and become less and less attractive to 18 year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:21 AM
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It's worse than that; if you match with 5% of the women you swipe right on, you are in the 80th percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:52 AM
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Attractiveness in women is largely related to fertility, and the most attractive features cross-culturally are full lips, large eyes, and smooth skin. All of which are heavily targeted by makeup. 40 year old women with wrinkly faces, sagging eyes and thin lips are obviously less fertile than 23 year olds. Note also interestingly that where older women use makeup to try and make themselves look younger, younger women will often use makeup to make themselves look older, specifically more like peak…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:25 PM
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Makeup is deception, the purpose of makeup is to make women look younger and more fertile than they are, which is the primary thing men select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:01 PM
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Make sure your profile represents THE real you. How many female profiles represent the 'real' you? Makeup is deception. Filters are deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:35 PM
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Also; suggesting that the 80/20 rule exists, the top 20% of men that I find immediately attractive based solely on face value ( pun intended ) is going to be different than another woman’s top 20%. There might be some overlap on a large enough scale, but not to the degree that we’re both competing for those 2 (out of 10) men. The factors that make men attractive tend to be generalizable across domains so there will be significant overlap. General intelligence / social intelligence, height, abili…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:21 PM
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in marriage a man can quit his job and not do shit And the wife would almost certainly divorce in that case, and western courts tend to base spousal support / child support on past / potential earnings, i.e. you are forced to work. Plus you'd be ostracized by the community, thus the social pressure. that's in divorce, not marriage Married men spend essentially all of their money on their families and men who don't are liable to be socially ostracized / subject to immense social and cultural pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:46 PM
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You ever hear of spousal support / maintenance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:38 PM
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50% of marriages end in divorce, and only 17% of couples that stay together are happy. I'll take rolling courtship / honeymoon phases over that BS any day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:19 PM
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The risks (for men): You are mandated by law and by cultural pressure to continue filling your end of the bargain (i.e. spending a significant portion of your income on your wife); they are not mandated by law or cultural pressure to continue filling their end of the bargain. Thus, the optimal strategy for men (or at least, an alternative to the red pill): Serial monogamy where you appear to be a good candidate for marriage and willing to marry, and then always bail before you become married or …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:12 PM
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Hahaha amazing, well done OP. I wonder if there's a way to work in the percentage of women who marry older men, I think that would make it a bit more realistic and applicable to RP delusion. Eg. If you want a 25 year old woman and you're 35, only 7.6% of women end up in a relationship with that age gap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships) Also a max height option might be good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:24 PM
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If you're going to get married late 20's early 30's then odds are you will already be dating the person you will marry by 25-26.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:55 AM
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Since I think this is relevant to the discussion, 60% of women are married by 30. Consider that relationships average 2 to 5 years before marriage, and 70% of 33 year olds married (and 74% of 35 year olds), that means 70-75% of women are either married or with the person they will marry by 30. It stands to reason that any of the remaining 25% of women are going to start getting pretty anxious if they actually want to be married, since the available eligible men are either marrying younger women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:53 AM
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Well, in NZ / Aus the minimum wage is actually pretty decent and you can get a half hour massage with happy ending or a blow and go for about that much (1/6th of a weeks wage).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:32 AM
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THere is mixed data on this but depending on which study you look at Canadians and Americans lose there virginity at 17.8-18 and Australian and Kiwis lose their virginity at 17.8-18
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:10 AM
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I don't agree, the dating market in NZ is worse than North America. Average women here would be like gigahoes in Canada and the US and they aren't doing it with average men lol. The average woman in NZ has 21 sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:08 AM
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I'll try and find the article but I think in NZ it's been found that legalisation has had zero effect on the number of people visiting prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:05 AM
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If it's like NZ than 200-250 hr escorts are brothel girls, usually on drugs (if white / european) or trafficked asian girls if not (and frequently the asian girls are advertising as being 18-21 but are actually late 30s), or they're on locanto or similar and they're there because they have STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:55 AM
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Prostitution is legal in Australia and NZ and the dating market more or less suffers the same problems as the North American one. Men who can't get laid conventionally are usually not the men with the disposable income to pay $500/hr for a quality escort. I think it is a solution for a certain group that TRP targets, namely white collar men on the spectrum, since they have the disposable income to finance it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:06 PM
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I prefer the TAP vector, tits, ass personality, plotted in a 3d vector space. The more erect the vector the hotter the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:08 PM
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Your entire argument is that "Exceptions exist." Which is not an argument at all. No, it's not. Briffault's Law already accounts for the outliers It doesn't account for anything, it was written in 1927. Where women women derive no benefit from associating with a man, no such association will take place. This is normal. Where men derive no benefit from associating with a woman, no such association will take place. This is also normal. Both men and women choose. And our species is only slightly di…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:03 PM
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There has been a 40 year long civilization wide propaganda campaign in the west to change attitudes towards LGBTQ people. There is no comparative effort to normalize permanent singledom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:03 AM
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"Weird" is always relative to the majority of people and the majority of people living in suburbs will be married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:35 AM
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In most western housing markets nobody who is a young adult now will ever be able to afford a house in the suburbs without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:07 AM
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Maybe you can elaborate so that I have some idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:00 AM
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The Dead Hand is isolated from that and there are are always four ohio class submarines on patrol, each with enough warheads to kill 300 million people. Whatever happens we will have our revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:47 AM
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From the moment we are born, we are at a higher risk of being assaulted Men are at a higher risk of being assaulted. Most assaults are carried out by men against other men. We put our bodies at risk for months to carry and give birth to children, while men suffer no physical changes. Men put our bodies at risk for our entire lives, working longer hours, working more years, starting work sooner, working shittier higher risk jobs, and as a result live shorter lives. Who earned their right to vote …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:07 AM
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Are we calling Red Piller's philosophers now? Rollo and co seem to have attended a single evolutionary psychology class during university while hungover, missed half of it, and leveraged that half-baked knowledge to make money selling t-shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:01 AM
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Career advancement, status, position in the community, companionship, finances ( a mortgage is a piece of piss to pay off in ~7-10 years if you are DINK couple and after that you will be financially better off than the vast majority of single people), kids (if you want them). If you aren't married as a man there is a ceiling to your ability to advance in standing in a company. Companies do not want to promote unmarried men, particularly past 30-35 or so when most high income / high status men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:57 AM
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I'll break it down further to help with your comprehension: humans are sexually dimorphic Explaining why there are zero female NFL hall of fame players but nowhere near as dimorphic as other mammals or many of our primate relatives. Explaining that the difference between a female gorilla and a male gorilla is much larger than the difference between an elite female and male human athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:50 AM
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Female vaginal orgasms can have pretty intense muscle contractions depending on the woman, for me that's frequently enough to drive me over the edge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:03 AM
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The 9/10 and 10/10 men do gatekeep shit though, and in doing so they place pressure on women. Thus pickmes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:31 AM
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I doubt humans are the most monogamous species, even within primates. Yes this is true - I shouldn't have added that bit in since it's not actually in the article. Other primate species are more monogamous but humans are significantly closer to monogamous primate species than non-monogamous. ​ After all, women are the gate-keepers of sex, but men the gate-keepers of commitment. Once again, to black and white. Highly desirable men can gate keep both sex and commitment. Highly desirable women can …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:05 AM
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>We aren’t as dimorphic because men have built a world in which it isn’t necessary for our features do diverge. ​ Dimorphism in homo-derived species has essentially been the same for 2 million years (https://www.pnas.org/content/100/16/9103) which predates the formation of civilization as we know it. ​ We were only monogamous because we built cultures (mostly by men) to foster stable societies. Do you see is trending more monogamous or less? ​ Hunter-gatherer's are mostly monogamous / serial mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:02 AM
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Yup - The majority of engineers that I've worked with in management, technical principal, director etc. positions are tall and typically more masculine. Not that there aren't exceptions but it seems to help quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:57 AM
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The boundaries have shifted, I think in the past slapping on the ass, hair pulling, dirty talk was kink, these days it's basically just normal sex. I heard someone say 'piss is the new cum' a few years ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:52 AM
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I agree, men are not intimidated by intelligent women. This is a cope statement by women who have been passed over for other women. It's normally used by or to describe university educated women often with good jobs who don't understand the mate choices of the men they want to date. It's not that men are intimidated or have a bias, it's just that having a university degree is either not a criteria, or if it is a criteria it's not a deal breaker. The men these women want to date (university educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:50 AM
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I have resubmitted it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:44 AM
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How about 'Briffault's Law Revisited'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:37 AM
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This is the same title as the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:34 AM
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No, but if you work at a corporation you'll see that there is a strong bias towards height and masculinity in promotions and raises.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:10 AM
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Excessive choking, cuckolding, harder bdsm like scat / sounding / needles etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:36 AM
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Good argument thanks bye
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:40 AM
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If western intelligence agencies had credible evidence that a foreign power created a super virus to try and genocide us we would absolutely respond with a countervalue second strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:29 AM
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Eh, it gets better as careers progress but for some reason universities attract and churn various types of dickheads
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:36 AM
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Nah he was already married, my theory is it was about appearing more masculine / dominant for work. He was involved in business development and bringing in work and all the people he had to deal with were 6' + very masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:36 AM
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I wouldn't say autistic engineers peak in middle management, they just get there and crash and burn and drag the whole unit down with them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:33 AM
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Isn't that the Red Pill strat? "Bro just go monk mode until you're like 35, that's peak male attractiveness". Competition gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:30 AM
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Slightly offtopic but I worked with a guy who I swear to god went on vacation and got a jaw enhancement surgery done. I couldn't see any scarring or anything on his face but he had a fairly normal but not hyper masculine jaw then one day the dude has a jaw like a 5'8 tony robbins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:28 AM
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50% fail to enter the profession and a substantial portion of the rest have to have the ego ground out of them before they're useful for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:22 AM
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More broadly speaking I reckon the biggest flaw in the red pill is that much of the black and white thinking aspects of it are not supported by evolutionary psychology theory or at least only tells 50% of the story. (I often get the impression from Rollo's early writings that he attended a single evo psych class in uni while hungover and missed half of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:19 AM
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I did read the OP but you obviously haven't read the OP or the red pill sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:18 AM
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tl;dr fuck bitches, get money or fuck bitches get money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:00 AM
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Cool, and regardless, something else will eventually come along, even if for no other reason than that TRP is basically as old as facebook now and for old people. Young people of every generation like inventing their own terminology for things. Red Pill is what the single 35+ year old uncle of today's early 20's generation uses / talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:21 AM
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Maybe you never actually read the sidebar, but the 'peaking in your 30s' thing is about peaking relative to women your own age. 20 year olds still aren't going to bang you and you still don't have shit on a 20 year old frat boy or collegiate athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:14 AM
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Envy of what? He's a 21 year old university student.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:12 AM
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An engineer who thinks people will work for him one day lmao. You're in a for a rough ride mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:07 AM
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I'm just interested in it, you know, like being at the zoo. I want to see what the animals are doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:36 AM
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It's quite literally like woman are an employer since most married men spend essentially all of their money on other peoples families / children (taxes) and their own wife / children (house, wifes vehicle, food, college savings, entertainment sports, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:37 PM
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Anyone know if there's anything out there that looks like the seeds of something that might replace the red pill? Where do zoomers get dating advice? I feel like the forum and content is getting pretty aged / probably disconnected from early 20 somethings by now - feels like TRP in it's current form is older than Mystery / The Game was when TRP took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:35 PM
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How many of those 70% got into a relationship with the intent of finding a life partner? I think people stumble into it for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:38 PM
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I don’t think that’s how that works… Yes that's how it works. 50% of men are shorter than 5'9", more or less. If your minimum criteria is 5'9" that leaves 50% of available men. I’m not good enough at maths to dispute this, but it sounds quite off. It's not off, it's statistics based on actual data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:53 PM
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30% of marriages start as a hookup; if they had filtered by 'intentions', they'd never be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:43 PM
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Ah cool - sounds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:06 PM
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What about the income setting? 5'9 is average height so that eliminates 50% of men right there. Simply adding unmarried should halve it again, because ~70% of 40 year old men are married and about half of 30 year old men are married and 32% of 25 year old men are married, so on average about 50% of 25-40 year old men are married. So you should end up at around 25% just from those two settings with no race, salary or obesity expectation. I'd guess if anything the calculator over-reports because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:03 PM
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In egalitarian hunter gatherer societies the better hunters / leaders have higher differential reproductive success, access to more fertile mates, and keep a larger share of the meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:51 PM
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Why not join in?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:49 PM
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Maybe you're confused about what 'generous standards' are? The defaults in the calculator are already way above average. 6' is 90th percentile. 80k is double the average income of dating age men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:33 PM
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5'9" tall is the average height of American men. Approx 75% of American men are overweight or obese. As an average, about 50% of 30 year old men are already married (just 3% at 20 and 76% at 40). Under 40 American men make something like 30k (at 20-25) to 60k (at 40). Where it's 'wrong' is it can't tell you how big the pool of women is that you're competing against for those men. But men tend to be more open to a larger pool of women then vice versa (i.e. height and salary usually matter not at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:13 AM
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You never specified nor did the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:50 PM
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Well, those men do exist for women who make 30k a year. Might have to go to Saudi Arabia and let some Saudi blokes piss down your throat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:45 PM
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For women: https://igotstandardsbro.com/ Tough pill to swallow: If your criteria are college educated, must have an approximately equal or higher salary, and not obese, there are actually very, very few men like that, especially if you're a woman who makes more than minimum wage. Like, maybe 5% of 21 to 40 year old men meet these criteria. If you start adding in some extras like maybe, average or above penis and sexual performance, above average strength, etc, well, 6' height (which btw is alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:38 PM
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I don't know what that level is but the next century will be won by the societies that figure out how to keep men motivated and involved and the rest will decline in relative terms or adopt the strategies of the successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:08 PM
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Most men with any kind of decent income spend the majority of their earnings on other people - the 30% that gets taken by tax predominantly gets spent on other people, then something like 30-35% gross (or 50% net) gets spent on a big ass house mostly used by his wife and kids, then there's food, entertainment, sports for kids, etc. Savings for his kids college. IF he's lucky, a small amount for retirement and then maybe a tiny amount of disposable income for himself. A married dude on 80k a year…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:58 PM
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The average american male is 5'9" tall, earns 38k a year, has a 5.1" penis, lasts 2-5 minutes in bed, weighs 200lbs, does not have a university degree, something like 50% will eventually be diagnosed with a mental disorder (let alone undiagnosed), and on average drinks at least a beer or two a day. ​ Even if you just start the criteria at 'has a university degree, earns a moderately good income like 60k' you're down to maybe 10-20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:38 PM
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White people aren't a race and never have been. There are still hiring biases related to having English, Irish, Scottish, non-english last names etc. Try seeing if white english people from yorkshire have an ingroup bias, and an outgroup bias against Londoners and anyone else. Even that might be to big of a grouping.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:59 AM
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If you have disposal income you will be absolutely alarmed or overjoyed at the number of under 30 women on seeking arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:12 AM
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https://www.amazon.ca/Evolutionary-Psychology-New-Science-Mind/dp/1138088617/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1Q3IYRQP6WPTF&keywords=evolutionary+psychology+buss&qid=1641179411&sprefix=evolutionary+psychology+bus%2Caps%2C315&sr=8-2 ​ Educate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:10 AM
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Intervening to help anyone is risky and probably not worth it. Shit, intervening to help your friends move is likely to leave you minus a weekend and up a $5 dominos pizza and shitty beer and odds are 50/50 they will never, ever reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:07 AM
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Bro that is this entire subreddit on repeat for the past 7 years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:10 PM
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Women are responsible for their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:09 AM
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It's so horrible that 85.1% of women choose to marry men older than themslves, men are sO eViL for forcing women to choose to marry older men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:43 AM
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The government that creates this new super-virus, of course, will have vaccines already developed and in storage before it also "accidentally gets out", and, whoever they deem fit to live among their countrymen will surely be given it. And then we will nuke them into oblivion, get over your conspiracy theory. The Dead Hand (Russian) and American nuclear deterrent are designed to be able to function and destroy the world even if one side fires ten thousand icbm's at us first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:34 AM
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Men can't sleep with women if women don't choose to, so you should focus on the 8% of women that marry men 10+ years their senior or the 32% who marry men 5 or more years older than them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:30 AM
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Who knows Anyone thought about the massive early wave of COVID-induced inheritances on SES of 20-30 year old men? Also the odds of the first major world power peer war since WWII are steadily increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:51 PM
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This is what already happens. Tinder is basically an app for women to volunteer to be in rotational harems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:48 PM
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It's legal in Australia and more expensive than North America
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:47 PM
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No they would just be hornier to sleep with attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:03 AM
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Women are fine with hooking up with strange they just don't need to go on ashley madison to get it. Tinder, randoms at work, shit they could just suck off their weed dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:00 AM
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I think like the PUA's before them the content has become somewhat out of date, and also most of the community leaders are now old enough to just seem like creepy out of touch old dudes. Rollo's old and people like homooil or whatever his name is are out of touch mid 30's roid monkeys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:58 AM
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It's sort of a circular argument, an average family will only be able to survive on a single income if half of each gender or all of one gender exited the work force. But that would defeat the point because the reason the government wants more kids is to have more workers so having half the work force drop out defeats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:52 AM
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No, the feminists are lying to you.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:46 AM
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They're entitled to the excess resources / money produced by men's labour for some reason though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:22 AM
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Why do women let losers pump and dump them? They have low self esteem and don't know the value they have
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:08 AM
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/bill-and-melinda-gates-divorce-melindas-unusual-lawyer-move/K4SGVXAIDKCK5S7F2AQWG46MI4/ ​ Told ya. Epstein connection, macking on staff. The one side hoe is the tip of the iceberg. He's been one of the richest and most powerful men in the world for 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 07:33 AM
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60% of women are married by 30, which likely means they met their long term mates from 18-27 or so. I think they're just wrong to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:57 AM
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We heard about one, I guess. And Tiger Woods isn't in the same league as these guys financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:04 AM
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You're assuming that people like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos play by the same rules as average people, movie stars, or even peasant-class billionaires like the koch bros. They may be introverts but you dont get $200 billion dollars without some brutal realism and psychopathy in the mix. If they wanted a buffet of side hoes you wouldn't hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:05 AM
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David Buss at the University of Texas and Geoffrey Miller at the University of New Mexico have done loads of research that supports aspects of it. The Red Pill is basically just bastardized evolutionary psychology research combined with snake oil salemesen like hobooil and rollo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:01 AM
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