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I've read your profile also and I see your artistic and I feel bad for my neuro divergent brothers and sisters. When it comes to dating and attraction it is going to be naturally frustrating for men because so much of the points of entry are dependent on him and him approaching which already has so much anxiety attached to it When I was younger?I hated hitting on girls because I did not want them to think.I was a creep but I also know how girls are.Girls will go straight to their friends and bas…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 03:44 AM
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I'm an artist and it's fun but it's not going to solve this type of problem
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 03:34 AM
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Go to hell
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 03:29 AM
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Eat rocks
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 03:27 AM
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If this is what you get from my post , Then touch grass
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 03:26 AM
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I personally feel confident but being confident is not equal being socially unintelligent We're human beings and people have conflict and have misunderstandings even between the most confident and assured people
/r/ExRedPill20/01/25 01:32 PM
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Just because something is toxic does not mean it still does not have elements of truth , and that's what the red pill is You watch how women behave and you change accordingly.And don't get me wrong.There's still a lot of stuff about it.I don't like , but the world isn't perfect , is it? That same woman ended up going back to her abusive ex.Boyfriend
/r/ExRedPill20/01/25 01:31 PM
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I doubt it and it's because women like men.Are human you say this type of thing?But how many men have done that?Or will be described as those types of men.But still get abuse put down or rejected I get so tired of people bringing up housework as if this is some great f****** thing that separating men and women.But it's just another excuse to fucking be hateful and devicive It's like if I said women would do better to be more submissive and learn to shut the fuck up which would obviously be fucki…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/25 11:47 PM
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The problem with this type of thinking and I really do agree with this.I don't agree with everything.The red bill but you can't ask a fish how to catch a fish Please don't take this in a demeaning way.But even more further, I think what that means is.Women aren't really aware of what attracts women popular culture tells you something very different from what real life is happening
/r/ExRedPill19/01/25 06:02 PM
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What are you trying to say bro
/r/ExRedPill19/01/25 05:46 PM
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Whatever
/r/ExRedPill19/01/25 04:47 PM
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But isn't that common sense at this point at least right now in society. In general if men want to attract a woman they need to display looks money and status
/r/ExRedPill19/01/25 02:26 PM
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The most ironic and crazy thing is men feel the same way For every man you think is evil and has done something to women.He probably has had something done to him by women.And because we all know hatred isn't rational.He now attributes all of those things to all women
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 02:54 AM
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I agree with you but when it comes to this conversation I'm talking about literal.Good kind sensitive whatever you want to call them.In being literally looked at as weaker or not an option which in invertently kind of proves gender rolls and identities right Think about it if most women in my village view the most violent man as attractive.Despite what our morals say most men are going to emulate him because they see he is doing something that attracts the women
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 02:40 AM
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I think a big reason why so many people argue for it.Is that so many people scream about our history?With masculinity and toxic masculinity.So you would think the opposite type?A man would be favoured a little bit more and recognized I was just watching. The podcast about this woman giving out dating advice.And she's a centrist and I don't agree with everything.She says was something that I do or at least can understand the mindset behind?Is that a lot of women can't really recognize what is a g…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 02:39 AM
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Believe me, it's actually gotten much easier.Post analysis because , like everything else in life , it's an unconscious bias There are patterns that are expected from men.And that right there is the thing we need to work on
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 02:35 AM
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I guess so, but when did you argue that?Just like men , women have certain patterns of what they expect in certain behaviors
/r/ExRedPill13/01/25 12:57 AM
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Everybody knows that.I'm more so am trying to analyze the reasoning behind certain behaviors
/r/ExRedPill13/01/25 12:12 AM
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I. Know it's crazy and it shows with how women in real life respond to the men they perceive as deserving Because I would argue it's not just a sexual attention and how they treat the men they view below them I'm pretty sure we all can think of a girl that we were trying to be cordial with without any intent of sexual intent that either just stayed silent or outright acted rude but she acted completely different around the guys she was sexually attracted to That's No different from a man, treati…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:02 PM
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That's why I hate all these new videos and analysis over positive masculinity like analyzing aragorn oing from lord of the rings There are positive aspects to masculinity and even more important.There is a positive type of masculinity , but like you said , it's just Throwing around the same rigid, male gender rolls.Just with new age flashy words wrapped around it. You know, this hell there's almost no analysis on the male gender role.That's only a complete benefit to him.It's always somehow for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:01 PM
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Ironically.Yes, I have, but now I can spot those types of traits in a woman instantly so I am glad.I had it My ex.Girl. Friend was a bully victim.And what I mean by that is she obviously had a lot of insecurities from her own bullying as a kid but instead of using that as empathy for others she instead basically would put down other people. Put down me put down my friends my hobbies et cetera The problem. Though when it comes with women is that we for the last 40 plus years have been screaming i…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/25 01:49 PM
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And I would argue it's sexist and comes off as a little ignorant towards men because it's basically like feticizing and putting men in a certain box. I've always been the biggest and strongest kid.So ever since I was a kid.I hated when people tried to use my strength against me.And what I mean by that is, if I wasn't acting like what they expected.Somehow that means I was open to disrespect. I get it from men too, but with women.It feels a little bit more hypocritical.Because they'll say one thi…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/25 01:45 PM
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I hear what you're saying, but once again, I've seen this type of thing.My whole life and it's not good but accountability needs to go everywhere. Why do so many women consistently pick men like this when everything in the world should tell them not
/r/ExRedPill11/01/25 01:44 PM
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Of course we all know that but I think the red pill comes about because there's a certain dance and expectation when it comes to heterosexual relationship Individually and in the absence of romance, every man can be considered what you've just said in your second paragraph.But for every individual woman what she finds attractive.In a certain type of masculinity she finds attractive can be very different
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 07:23 PM
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Men. Like women are not always attuned to the real feelings.And of course, I know you've heard this before, but you need to look at a woman's actions VS what she says.I don't doubt this woman thinks she wants a good man.And that's good, but the men she has chosen.Give me a different opinion
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 05:49 PM
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I stopped talking to her for about 6 months.Then she starts Calling me when she was clearly still with her ex.And she would just randomly start breaking out into crying
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:20 PM
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It's hard for me to feel bad sometimes.Because I have witnessed these relationships in the past.Yes and I try to have accountability for both sides . No man should be treating a woman like this.But too many women seem to attract men that are just like this.And it's frustrating for most guys because we are told constantly to be better in the world.That is constantly bombarded with toxicity yet if the toxic men attract women so easily.Why wouldn't men do it?And I know that sounds fucked up to say …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:19 PM
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As I get older sometimes I wonder because I have had girls who have had boyfriends without me knowing
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 12:58 PM
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This is what confuses me about these traits.Is that you could argue?Everyone has them what I hate about masculinity.And especially socially is that masculine trites are much more rigid
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 12:58 PM
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I'm twenty eight
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:56 AM
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It was our first date if you want to Call it that and I wasn't sure if this man was her boyfriend or not.And guess what after we were done hooking up.She got back with him l o l
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:55 AM
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I would argue you can do all of that without being literally toxic.I'm walking proof of it
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:55 AM
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That's The thing I have had dreadlocks before. And I hear what you're saying but once again it's still an argument for perception and not the real thing For example, I have partied before and I'm bigger than most men.So I know I can be protective but my core personality is not what most women think I've had women straight up.Tell me that they thought I was different until they got to know me and i'm not surprised by it because i've noticed it my entire life And i've gotten this from women of all…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:39 AM
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I get that.I guess my question is what attracts women to a guy like this. As much as I love my stepdad.Even he was quite abusive, but he wasn't the only one.My mother was very much abusive back I'm talking about.We would have the police called every other week.And I would have to regularly step in between them and yes I have fought both of them as well. I was about 16 or 17 when their arguments started getting worse.But even at that age I was bigger than them. I feel like even the most toxic of …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:12 AM
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Even the have your s*** together can be argued, especially nowadays.Because at that time I was still living with my grandparents. The crazy thing is I'll throw out my 20s.I've had more success but I still could be seen as basically a left behind man even though I don't think so or at least I don't think of myself that way I don't have a vehicle.And I only just moved into a house about six months ago Of course, I've always worked jobs.So I paid for my own food and stuff and I cleaned up after mys…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:10 AM
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I get older.I can agree with that. Not everything is what it seems.And I just made a post about that I've had more success with women and out of those women.I can count maybe 5 to where it really did feel like I did not have to play some part Or feel like I had to hide away parts of myself And because of those positive experiences is why I'm a little bit more conflicted about this red pill stuff.I'll be honest with you I guess where my conflict lies is if you should have to do these things I gue…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 02:02 AM
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I come From a very rough environment and I was abused.Believe me not everybody is the kind and virtuous type
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:50 AM
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It does kind of get performative especially if one is not comfortable with certain things Okay I'll give you an example. The first girl. I dated we can consider a tom boy. She did not dress the most flashy.She only was really in t-shirts.And jeans. I did not expect her to put on like some feminine front like from some high school romcom, I just wanted her to be herself.The reason we broke up was she had a lot of insecurities that manifested in her taking it out on me and random people. If she wa…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:33 AM
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I guess I'm here to argue the opposite.That most of the internet nice guys are not that caricature and that there is a real social component to it Look, I'm not making a blanket statement.That every woman is just turned on by every pure a****** in the world.But I do believe a lot of asshole traitss get misconstrued into confidence and self assuredness My problem with this is that just because a guy is not coming off.A super aggressive with his masculinity does not mean he lacks confidence And in…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:31 AM
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I would argue most people already know that internally.And I would not call the things you said that were positive like selfishness Like advocating for yourself and standing up for yourself can look like selfishness or being an asshole , but that's because the person on receiving it is getting the harsh treatment and usually its deserved The bit about getting dreadlocks and tattoos.Is it looks like a stereotypical rapper or thug?In my community and I've already had dreadlocks.But as a big black …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:28 AM
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My problem would be the change you want to see in the world.Is that yes, it's good.But what if the change you want?Requires literally more people changing and you can force people but something has to give Every single social movement we've ever had in America would not work if we all just focused on that type of thing.Just being the change you want to see because that's clearly not enough
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:25 AM
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I think this is where our society is at a crossroads.Because we all know this, but it doesn't sound politically.Correct and hear me out because i'm not a conservative No one is saying that someone should get a pass.Or a Pat on the back for being good and nice.But it's clear that number one.Being good and nice is not the bare minimum.Despite Reddit saying so and number 2, there is a real cultural component.To guys acting toxic because it clearly gives no more reward And I know this is frustrating…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:24 AM
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That's my problem.Or at least what I perceive is just that a lot of women do want you to be performative versus actually being yourself and your true confidence Which is also why I never understood?Why everyone around the issue of dating keeps harping on confidence as a big issue.Because it's really not think about it.Neck beards who live in a basement could be as confident as he wants.But is it attractive There are certain norms and looks and performances that come along with dating and if it w…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:22 AM
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That's different.I'm talking about personality types.And especially nowadays to wear being an a****** or snarky.Is seen as cool.It's actually refreshing finding someone that is genuinely nice and kind And I'm not talking about a kiss up.Or a push over i'm talking about someone that is literally just pleasant to be around and it's not going to constantly point out proceed flaws or weaknesses
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 01:20 AM
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Of course you and I know this, but does the rest of society actually know it's a good thing that we have made great strides for women?But women aren't perfect.Angels and women like you said can very much be victims of absorbing bad societal messages just like men.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 09:04 PM
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I'm arguing that the this ingenuous types are very , very , very low in number And even as I say this just because a young guy who's like a teenager gets mad.At a rejection does not negate the fact that he could still be a nice or kind guy Romance is very nuanced and chaotic.And as I get older , I start to become not surprised when you hear so many horror stories from both sides because both sides are trying to get the most of what they can get without giving as much as they can while operating …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 08:20 PM
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I guess. This is where it becomes a matter of opinion because from where I'm coming from.In a romantic or sexual sense.There should be more importance on traits like kindness.And maybe we'll see more of that in the future generations Everything else that seems to be a marker in what's considered attractive always is steeped in some negative Hetero Normality Like we would think it's fair.That a girl says that she wants a man to make a certain income.But in reality she's getting that standard.From…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:49 PM
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I see what you mean and not everyone is just nice and kind.There's tons of overlap.So I understand what you're saying.I just don't agree that it's a non factor or that is just a trait by itself Coming from a cruel childhood.Having got genuinely kind and nice person was probably the only thing that saved at least some sliver of my mental health Also I will say there's also a certain reverse psychology that comes with these things because most people don't even notice their own biases.And I would …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:41 PM
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Believe me we don't really live in a post gendered world.I guess what?I mean, is that we all say that we do.There's tons of self proclaimed progressive people who think they are progressive but really aren't Like in a post gender world a man should be able to stay home and the woman should be able to be the breadwinner and there would be no question or analysis of it at all but clearly were not there yet Believe me there's so many different gender things for both men and women that we are just n…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:36 PM
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I disagree I think being kind and nice actually takes more work which does say a lot about a person because it's a mixture of their own personal humility and Empathy I'll give you an example recently in my own life.I have had a lot of conflict with my family.Because I stand up for myself now.And I also call out their hypocrisy This can be good because now they understand where i'm coming from or it could be bad because it's not like they're all going to bow and apologize so it just creates even …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:35 PM
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I'm in a much more. Healthier place now but I still find this type of stuff even from nonhood women It's no secret that white women feticize black men or the idea of a hood.Black man.And that's not any better either, and as a matter of fact, it's kind of text.Book racism and fetishis As I say this, I've had tons of positive experiences that make me question everything and I'm glad for those positive experiences.But i've also had The run of the meal bullshit with some encounters with women One gi…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:28 PM
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Isn't that something if we lived in a perfect world , right In theory, we were probably seeing more men becoming non-toxic if they could literally be themselves without ideas from the outside world.But most people still want to date and men and women will do behaviors that get there My point is that more people should want to be more nice and kind.And that trait of an event itself shouldn't be seen as something so skittish or something inherently weak or manipulative And I definitely don't agree…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:25 PM
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Believe me I regret turning down that girl because it was my insecurities but like I said they didn't come from nowhere And I am. In therapy, but once again, my original point still stands.This is a real cultural problem
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:22 PM
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But that's the greatest irony of living in the ghetto.Is that as a community?We say we're trying to move away from these things.But that actually means doing it aunt to stop making excuses for why Believe me, I get it.My mother sold drugs just like my father did so.We technically survived off a drug money but even as a kid.I hated it because now it makes us inevitably hypocrites which is of what I hate even more Even that now i'm toss and turning with as I get older because it seems like hypocri…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:20 PM
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I guess it depends on where you live.Because where I come from everything you said in your first three paragraphs is definitely not the bear minimum And I get what you're saying you need this Type of genuine pleasantness, just to keep a society going.And I get that and we can argue back-and-forth what the origin point this?But my point still stands. We in American society were built up by not so nice ideas and nice people.Which is why I side eye when everyone says nicest appear minimum in what m…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:16 PM
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I guess it depends on the culture because where i'm from it's definitely the norm And even further, I do feel like as a society.It is fair that we should call this out because it is a real cultural thing You will be surprised how many women genuinely like dudes with awful personality traits and as a writer myself.I really do think it does come from that type of thing not being able to separate fiction from real life You were able to and as a woman.I'm proud that you do not actually love those ty…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:08 PM
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That's the problem, though these nice guys.The internet describes could also very much be regular.Good guys, and just because they get mad.At a rejection does not negate their nicer traits Nobody likes being blown up on after being the person to reject somebody and in the same breath.Nobody wants to be rejected especially for things they perceive to be normal and good but dating has a lot of Nuance But once again and i'm selling This from my own perspective as an African American.There is a real…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 07:00 PM
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I'll be honest during my dating career.Especially in my 20s, it was hard for me to actually find a girl.I can completely be vulnerable in myself around and when I did it just made me question even more and the internet.Nice guy debates don't help I had a girl ask me out at my older job.And I ended up turning her down because of my crazy insecurities with all this red pill feminist speak In my head, I'm thinking well.You're genuinely positive and kind guy.Despite what you look like and people hav…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:56 PM
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Now don't give me wrong preferences.Do have layers but some of our preferences do come from toxic norms and ideas Like if a man said he wanted a blonde bimbo who had plastic surgery to make her way supernarrow.And to get plastic surgery on her butt in her boobs.Then we would rightfully say that that guy has unrealistic expectations.But those didn't come from nowhere Both men and women in society drive crazy gender expectations
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:54 PM
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I'm an artist and art imitates life and vice versa.Just like men get a lot of their preferences from pornography and unrealistic expectations of women looked like women do the same thing with men How many romance novels feature a crazy a******Billionaire character that only likes the normal female protagonist for example Once again. I'm telling you from my personal experience.I've had people of all races.Tell me that I was either wrong off.Or seemed weird because I wasn't at the toxic stereotype…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:53 PM
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That's what I mean , The nice guys you're describing are very low compared to actual real nice guys The sad part.Is there actually genuinely good?Nice guys who will probably still get treated like the internet version which is so unfortunate and then They start becoming assholes just like I did But I guess that's why frustration.I hate the fact that I have To become a pseudo asshole to be seen as attractive or I guess I should say I shouldn't have to take on so many toxic traits just to be perce…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:51 PM
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But see, that's the problem.It's not the bare minimum because most people are not nice.Most people aren't well-mannered, polite or pleasant.And this is something that's always confused me And even more so culturally and spiritually.Especially since we're supposed to be living in a post gendered world.I feel like that.More men should be more nice and pleasant and easy.Going and more women should find that type of thing More attractive.Now you can't force people of course But this glaring issue do…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:48 PM
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I'm actually by polar
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:27 PM
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I'm sorry.It's a new year and I told myself I would try to have a little bit better mental health
/r/ExRedPill05/01/25 03:17 AM
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That's because our instincts and emotions around sex are very much complicated even though they're simple.It's about the potential creation of children , but all of our instincts surround to get our still there Which is why casual sex isn't really casual are easy because think about it If sexes will be casual, 2 people will just agree to meet up and f*** that's it.There would be no room for dating or emotions or trying to warm the other person up et cetera And of course it's gonna lead to a lot …
/r/ExRedPill04/01/25 03:10 PM
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But the real social perception and consequences of these dichotomies are real.Which ones again are the source of my frustration and that frustration is valid We've done a lot of good work disestablishing women from their own gender role.It's a shame we have not done so for men
/r/ExRedPill03/01/25 01:30 PM
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I understand what you're saying but that still doesn't indicate that it is a real frustration personally but also a problem society. The fact that you can also recognize this polarized binary proves it to be true I feel more genuinely.Ok nowadays but it is something that's always in the back of my head
/r/ExRedPill02/01/25 10:43 PM
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I get what you're saying I guess.My main frustration comes that our society barely even scratches the surface to even question that A lot of art straining patriarchal understandings of what men should act like and be overlap with a lot of what women find attractive and yes , I am speaking in generalizations Now. Of course, there's all types of different relationships in real life.And I am not doubting that But I bet if you ask a couple of men they could tell you some stories about feeling pressu…
/r/ExRedPill02/01/25 05:45 PM
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Not every girl wants some sensitive.Dude and I recognized that especially given the culture.I grew up with so sometimes you do have to tweak your personality a baby if you want to succeed I hate it but what does it say about women in society We have constantly questioned women's beauty rolls and what that means in relation to men's desire.But we have never questioned the opposite I will say this. I don't look like the stereo.Typical nerd which is probably why I get along well
/r/ExRedPill02/01/25 05:38 PM
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And this is why I sometimes call b s not only on women being able to sense the guy's personality but also the ideas that women somehow want a genuine good nice man And I'm older now.I get it sometimes a man's more tamer.Traits don't come off essentially exciting but it does poke a big hole in our modern logic We, as a society say, we want men to be more even-tempered.More kind less aggressive but those same men are usually the ones that get friendzoned I was very much like your friend in college…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 10:56 PM
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That's basically it If you come off, it's too shy to.O nice too kind to introvert it It makes you look weak as a man.Or like a whimp who does not take initiative But if you come on too strong into aggressive then you're just the same old overly sexual man If you don't get too sexual then you're also seen as a wimp I like that term hetero fatalism Because it's true.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 02:40 PM
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Any guy with any historical know how will agree with you on this?But I guess my point is in our real-time.And in a real modern society, the biggest contradiction is.We are told this a lot and it's true yet when it comes to ironically, courtship.And dating you still see those same traits manifest and it's like no one questions it Let me ask you this. When's the last time you asked a guy out?And you paid for the date and you were the one impressing him
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 02:21 PM
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I've had some experience and you are right.Not every woman is going to be mean.Or stupid or whatever and that is very much true.Women are humans.I guess it's a mixture of The social slash biological expectation of men approaching pursuing and performing And the contradiction and among many contradictions young men are told about conduct with women. How can the genders be a social construct?Yet both genders lean in so much to them with each other and themselves. We'd say. We need to end gender ro…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 02:03 PM
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Both genders do it which is why I don't take much discourse around it seriously because it's the ego protecting itself Think about it in a world where we're trying to be more Equal, but we're never gonna be exactly the same.And women are trying to compete with men in every perceived way They think. Men value but remember were not the same Let's go back to I don't know 700 a d It was probably a bad idea for both men and women back in the day to have casual sex because the real risk of disease and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:59 PM
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There are exceptions to every rule.And I thank god women like you exist but for every one of you there's twenty more women who would have changed their perception Despite we trying to end gender roles and make things more equal.Women still want the classic manly man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:18 PM
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Once again this is not unique Is to men and actually kinda shells?Another double standard. I know so many women who have an unconscious victim mentality and our society.Let's them get away with it. As I say this don't get me wrong.I understand everybody's human and everybody has their problems and traumas.But the differences women can more readily admit defeat complain or talk about their intermost traumas without being considered less than women or being on attractive How many stories have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 01:09 AM
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As much as I get pessimistic.I actually agree with this.Nobody should be hating anyone for any reason.Because the reasoning is always ignorant But there is something sad to say in a modern society to where you feel like you have to avoid another group of people for x y and z reason As a man I don't want to avoid women altogether.I value my female colleagues and friendships.But I can understand these centering romance.Because love and romance do cause a lot of problems and frustrations Both gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:48 PM
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And that's great for him.But every human is different.How many women get jaded?Based off of a few bad experiences with men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:37 PM
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It's hard for me to believe that because it sounds good.But I bet a lot of guys on here already had that but something happened or it did not work out I was a depressed teenager because I did not fit in and my personality was not something expected of men of my culture But I still grip my teeth and did all the things.I thought I needed to become a better person. Working out studying harder, making better friends, etc.But at the same time I cannot say this just innately made me more attractive I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:25 PM
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But that's the problem just like men.Women are sexual to stand up with toxic norms and dated ideas about men.But we need to call this outmore I have to tell a friend at work this all of society's problems are not caused by one group but by all of its members You will be surprised how many women have looked at me like I'm crazy or lost attraction when they realize I'm not the toxic thug.They built up in their head because I look like it And they also not realize how insulting it is I want you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:09 PM
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I get what you mean believe me but from personal experience sometimes that's not enough This is my biggest disagreement with both sides of this update especially with emotions and sensing emotions Sometimes. I think we put too much weight in.But we perceive other people's emotions to be.And this is why I can only give you my perspective as a bipolar person I literally sometimes feel like gecko and hide.And of course people are gonna react differently depending on if you're up or down but the ide…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/24 06:07 PM
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How would you work on not thinking so negatively
/r/ExRedPill28/12/24 04:48 PM
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The thing is, I believe you even with my own crazy thoughts.I have to admit to myself that yes.I have had better women with better positive experiences VS negative.But it's one of those things to wear.A lot of guys can't really foresee because they're the same dating norm And I'll be honest as I get older.Usually I'm better standing on my red flags.And what I consider to be a red flag But like I said before and I say this as a large black man.You would be surprised.How many women do fall for a t…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 03:25 PM
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Not everything in the world ends up with women.Being the victim of something oppression is real but oppression and privilege are sliding scale for every single individual For everything that feminist think oppress women men have another thing equally I'm just now trying to get over an identity crisis.Because men are expected to only be a certain amount of personality traits that are considered proper or attractive.And I'm tired of feeling like that.I should be able to be.However I want to be in …
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 12:30 PM
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I understand what you're saying but I don't fully agree I'm a big black guy and you would be surprised.How many women will literally look at me with surprise faces when they either realize I'm not the stereotype they built-in their head or that I don't lean into some type of ghetto stereotype, which ironically they reveal.They are attracted to when they give me a surprise.Look or some stupid comment I've gotten this from women of all races There is a certain stereotype of a toxic man that does s…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 01:02 AM
1

I'm very happy for you.And I myself have some positive experiences with women.But I guess i'm different because my mind still attunes itself to all my negative experiences i've had I've had an ex-girlfriend who made me feel like absolute s*** who expected me to be her rock to lean on.But if I needed her for anything emotional.I was a bitch in a pussy But I've also had a girlfriend who treated me like absolute gold.And despite what the red pill says she was a stripper I dated around a lot.I was s…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 12:46 AM
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We could say the same thing about women with horrible feminist takes and who UN awarely take the hatred out on innocent men.It's no different To tell you the truth, I don't think most men who even label themselves.This really do hate women like a card-carrying.I hate women but they hate the double standards and the privileges women get
/r/ExRedPill25/12/24 11:28 PM
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That's kind of how I feel.Even though I have some sexual success now it still does not make up for the years of feeling like shit and being put down Not every woman is good
/r/ExRedPill25/12/24 11:02 PM
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And this is why I think we have so much contention.When it comes to debating about what's attractive and what's considered good conduct in dating culture because so much of it does seem to contradict a lot of mainstream feminist narratives which his my biggest concern about mainstream feminism Do I believe? Men and women should be treated good and equal.Yes, but it's clear that we are obviously not the same.And it's also clear that both men and women really don't want to be the same to each othe…
/r/ExRedPill25/12/24 10:01 PM
1

Where are you from
/r/ExRedPill24/12/24 04:55 PM
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I've dated around a lot I'm good at hiding it Just two women I actually loved and could be myself around
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 01:34 AM
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Basically a guy that's over abrasive and over-aggressive with his masculinity can come off as attractive by confidence.But in reality men like that are destructive and I know because i've seen in my whole life. I come from the hood.My mother and both her sisters were impregnated by dudes who are basically thugs and in and out of jail. Multiple baby mamas If you? Ng men grow up with unrealistic caricatures of what to expect from women. Then the same goes away around for women growing up with thes…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 12:33 AM
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And even further, we cannot talk twice out of our a**By stating that certain traits are toxic and not welcome in our modern society.Yet those same traits and men seem to be the things that women are sexually attracted to.It's probably the biggest conundrum of our modern time.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 12:21 AM
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A guy that goes around disrespecting.Other people in being totally abrasive.An overly aggressive is not cute or attractive The same? Goes for the architype of men being attracted to the crazy woman and I say that as a man who's at experience with that I wish we could divorce attractiveness from toxic traits.But it's another one of those things.They seem to be an unconscious bias I've had girls try to tell me that I will get more girls.If I did x y and z bang and it's not a compliment or somethin…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 12:20 AM
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How you are perceived Has real life consequences I get what you're saying and like I said in a perfect world.I wish we all could unabashedly ourselves.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 06:12 PM
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I don't want external validation but nobody wants to be perceived as like a softy or a loser also
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 06:09 PM
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I've had maybe two women that I fully connected with about being myself but that's so far in between Once again people usually do fall for certain stereo types or scripts In a way I usually could relate to women that are very attractive but because of that people place a lot of crazy stereotypes on them I've been told i'm handsome and I could be a player but i'm literally the opposite of what most people think I look like I never got more success with women until I started leaning into exactly t…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 06:05 PM
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I get very obsessive over people and what they think
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 05:56 PM
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I don't think it's even that. I personally don't want some caricature of some domestic how slave that's all submissive I've Had more positive experiences with girls, but there doesn't seem to be something culturally or biologically or whatever you want to call it.That does drive certain traits or actions that women find attractive in men even though it may contradict what we morally say. A lot of dating and flirting is subtle and there's really no book or manual or class that teaches it for both…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 05:48 PM
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That sounds. Great and very similar.But don't you ever think that right?There is what causes so much frustration is that?Yes, you as a man, we'll have to play some stupid cartoonist.Caricature of a man to be considered attractive I'm a artist I draw in paint a lot.I am basically the modern definition of a modern feminist institute of man and because of my life experiences.I'll tell my female friends that to their ideas about what's attractive and not is very toxic.And sometimes they outright lie…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 03:26 PM
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I think that's the point and really.The problem of our modern generation is we talk twice out of our a** telling both young men and women.But young men especially that operating a certain way is desirable but clearly when they look out into the world acting completely opposite of what society tells you works better And I'm not surprised it causes so much frustration because if acting like a toxic a****** is true.Then that means we do have to admit at society that may be that is true and our idea…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 03:24 PM
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Exactly if we really want true freedom for men.This means that society has to stop expecting men to sacrifice themselves for it. This is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to gender discourse.Because both sides of the debate still ironically have a bunch of archaic gender notions about men It's the same reason why I hate when people bring up load of the rings as an example of " Positive masculinity" It's just another framing of tradition Masculinity If men's masculinity Leads them to anything ou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 05:36 PM
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That's why I'm not a fan of this and I really do think true.Freedom for men is for everyone and society including to realize should not be expecting this from men at all I want to get to a point where every man feels okay and is okay by just existing not having to do any outside thing. Which means yes we shouldn't not still expect men to be self sacrificing and give up their bodies and livelihood for the protection of society women and children The reason why it still comes off as the same dispo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 05:32 PM
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