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That’s the irony of life. The girls want those guys who are not approaching them, the guys that are doing the approaching are mostly losers (whether financially, socially, etc. ). When you’re meant to get a girlfriend you’ll get one without any approaching, and vice versa, you could approach a 1000 girls and get 500 numbers, if they don’t vibe with you/don’t think you’re a good fit for them, it won’t happen, EVEN if they gove you their number, that’s nothing, I wouldn’t even call that step 1, be…
/r/seduction06/07/25 07:27 PM
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That’s the irony of life. End the end girls want those guys who are not approaching them, the one that are doing the approaches are mostly losers. When you get a girlfriend you’ll get one without any approaching, and vice versa, you can approach a 1000 girls and get 500 numbers, if they don’t vibe with you/don’t think you’re a good fit for them, it won’t happen
/r/seduction06/07/25 07:24 PM
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But what’s the point here? I find it beta to keep the number just for later, what’s the point? No communiation happened. And it would be creepy af to write her like a month later. She already forgot about me one day after the approach.
/r/seduction06/07/25 07:21 PM
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If I was trolling that would men I’m lying, but I’m anything but that, my life is so fucking sad, and on top of that people think I’m trolling. Do you in you mind think it makes any sense to have a succeasful dating life and still have time to write these paragraphs and troll others? That’s the biggest bs I’ve ever read. People are so big on words, this guy is a troll, that guy is an !ncel, grow up. If I had one girlfriend in my whole fucking life I wouldn’t have ever even installed Reddit to be…
/r/seduction06/07/25 03:42 PM
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Do you read my comments? It’s not about what she thinks of me. But I’ve seen this pattern repeat itself endlessly. Girls just don’t like me, are never impressed or turned on when they get to know me, in fact, the less they know me the more interested they seem, as soon as the getting to know me starts, the interest fades rapidly, sometimes it even becomes pure disgust of me. I know you’re preaching the “fake it till you make it” “Consider yourself a 10/10 even if you feel like you’re a 1/10” but…
/r/seduction06/07/25 03:39 PM
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Here is the thing, I do approach from time to time, but not at all out of having some goal or plan, that happens purely instinctively when I see an attractive girl, so I occasionally approach and ask for their numbers even though I know deep down that I myself will delete the number before I even write them (happens often, otherwise I simply delete the message and the number if I feel like she’s not really interested and I’d also be avoiding the embarassment that would happen during the date, an…
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:42 PM
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why shouldn’t I delete their number? There is no way they’d want to go out on a date with me, and even if that does happen, it would be some dry af coffee meetup, no chance in hell that anything would happen
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:37 PM
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I have zero things to offer, I don’t have any perspective to offer to girls. The term “fake it till you make it” is bs, at least in my case.
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:32 PM
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But what if I simply don’t measure up/don’t have the cards to attract attractive girls? Imagine this: You’re an average guy, you’ve never been able to make friends with others at kindergarden, school, uni, work, etc. Nonody ever added you on faecbook, you don’t use Instagram (maybe the only person on earth who doesn’t) because what’s the point? You won’t have any followers because you have no friends and 0 social life. Maybe you can’t really relate becauee you assume every average guy has at lea…
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:27 PM
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Well for one, the “public opinion” seems to favour guys above 180cm height, do you disagree there?
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:42 AM
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That’s THE depressing issue man. I could pull way more numbers than the average guy, because the average guy is chicken af when it comes to approaching girls, but guess what? I’m one of the biggest losers when it comes to me as a person. If any of those girls ever came into a conversation with those average guys who are shy to ask them out, they would have MUCH better chances getting along, a 100% better chance than with me. I’m only good at initial impressions, but that’s all acting. The averag…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:40 AM
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So I approached a couple of girls a week ago after stopping this for several years, and I’m pretty good at getting numbers, I also look good (Work out regularly, style in check, I wear great colognes which many women like, etc. ), so out of 4 girls approached I got 2 numbers, which is a good ratio I believe. But 2 days later, I started questioning the whole thing and asking myself: If my life isn’t going well, if I don’t have my shit together, I don’t interact well with people, have 0 social lif…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:16 AM
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So I approached a couple of girls a week ago after stopping this for several years, and I’m pretty good at getting numbers, I also look good (Work out regularly, style in check, I wear great colognes which many women like, etc. ), so out of 4 girls approached I got 2 numbers, which is a good ratio I believe. But 2 days later, I started questioning the whole thing and asking myself: If my life isn’t going well, if I don’t have my shit together, I don’t interact well with people, have 0 social lif…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:16 AM
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So I approached a couple of girls a week ago after stopping this for several years, and I’m pretty good at getting numbers, I also look good (Work out regularly, style in check, I wear great colognes which many women like, etc. ), so out of 4 girls approached I got 2 numbers, which is a good ratio I believe. But 2 days later, I started questioning the whole thing and asking myself: If my life isn’t going well, if I don’t have my shit together, I don’t interact well with people, have 0 social lif…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:15 AM
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So I approached a couple of girls a week ago after stopping this for several years, and I’m pretty good at getting numbers, I also look good (Work out regularly, style in check, I wear great colognes which many women like, etc. ), so out of 4 girls approached I got 2 numbers, which is a good ratio I believe. But 2 days later, I started questioning the whole thing and asking myself: If my life isn’t going well, if I don’t have my shit together, I don’t interact well with people, have 0 social lif…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:15 AM
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So I approached a couple of girls a week ago after stopping this for several years, and I’m pretty good at getting numbers, I also look good (Work out regularly, style in check, I wear great colognes which many women like, etc. ), so out of 4 girls approached I got 2 numbers, which is a good ratio I believe. But 2 days later, I started questioning the whole thing and asking myself: If my life isn’t going well, if I don’t have my shit together, I don’t interact well with people, have 0 social lif…
/r/seduction06/07/25 11:15 AM
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I have no social life because of my height. Nowadays even guys don’t want to be your friend if you’re average height
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:18 PM
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So you’re saying at best I could get a relationship in a transactional sense. But there is always the possibility that she’ll dump me and fall in love with Chad next door
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:12 PM
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I have NO problems, beside being below the magic height threshold and not having Chad face, that’s it, is a psych therapist also a plastic surgeon? I didn’t know that.
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:10 PM
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why? So you think I’m a psycho just because women don’t like me? Do they also increase guys’ height in therapy? Because that’s what I need the most
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:04 PM
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So just be tall and say a word or to, and it will happen? What about average guys? You’re saying once she feels safe and connected to you AND if she is attracted to you. So just connecting with her isn’t enough if I’m not hot af or with above average height, right?
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:02 PM
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What’s the point of approaching if you know you have nothing to offer to a girl, nothing to excite her about you. Now don’t come with the bs argument “you’re a man, that’s enough.” I’m talking like literally there is nothing about you you could build a connection with a girl over, when your everyday life consists of eating, sleeping, toilet, shower, that’s it. No travel, no social life, no nothing. Isn’t it insulting to women to encourage such a lowlife guy to approach them at this point?
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:00 PM
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What’s the point of approaching if you know you have nothing to offer to a girl, nothing to excite her about you. Now don’t come with the bs argument “you’re a man, that’s enough.” I’m talking like literally there is nothing about you you could build a connection with a girl over, when your everyday life consists of eating, sleeping, toilet, shower, that’s it. No travel, no social life, no nothing. Isn’t it insulting to women to encourage such a lowlife guy to approach them at this point?
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:58 PM
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What’s the point of approaching if you know you have nothing to offer to a girl, nothing to excite her about you. Now don’t come with the bs argument “you’re a man, that’s enough.” I’m talking like literally there is nothing about you you could build a connection with a girl over, when your everyday life consists of eating, sleeping, toilet, shower, that’s it. No travel, no social life, no nothing. Isn’t it insulting to women to encourage such a lowlife guy to approach them at this point?
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:58 PM
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But you can’t deny that many failed marriages were based on the guy offering his money without having the right looks or personality that the woman is attracted to, so it was merely a transactional relationship that was destined to fail. That’s why if a guy is of average height/looks/personality, it’s best not to think highly of oneself when the guy gets rich, because he’d get a failed marriage at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:59 PM
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Doesn’t any guy instantly become a beta provider when he decides to commit to and provie for one woman for the rest of his life? I’ve never heard of an “alpha provider” . Tbh, even Ryan Reynolds comes accross as beta provider nowadays, daddy to 5 children and husband to a woman who regulary gets to kiss and sleep with other male actors, yeah, alpha af for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:55 PM
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whatever, I don’t want to get any advice from someone who considers chasing girls and sex a purpose
/r/seduction11/02/25 08:22 AM
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that’s by far the most frequent reply you get when you argue with someone on Reddit 😄🤦 you seem you want to give good advice but with bad intentions, yeah I should focus on the purpose, but screw hobbies, friends and girls, nothing good ever came out of them
/r/seduction11/02/25 05:54 AM
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On the one hand you’re saying I need friends and hobbies to get girls, on the other hand I have to follow a purpose, come on, if I really follow a purpose from the bottom of my heart, will I still care about dating or have free time left for girls?
/r/seduction11/02/25 12:28 AM
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I could have a lot of purpose and zero social life, zero hobbies, zero friends, and vice versa, I know many totally wasted guys who know nothing about life and have no “purpose” whatsoever, but have several hobbies and a lot of social life and have no issues with girls. Now, are you going to admit that purpose has nothing to do with social life and hobbies?
/r/seduction11/02/25 12:25 AM
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you gave your advice in a very general manner. I replied and told you that you could have a big deal of a purpose and yet be of zero interest to women
/r/seduction11/02/25 12:21 AM
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my friend, you could very well be full of “purpose” and yet be zero attractive/interesting to women. So I should just go to library and study more and girls would recognize my “purpose” more? You’re mixing up “purpose” with social life and hobbies, and that weakens your whole argument. You could be an autist or antisocial but study the whole time (proof that you have a purpose), which girl would date an autist/antisocial guy?
/r/seduction10/02/25 06:23 AM
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“The solution is to get friends and hobbies. As a man, your main priority in life should be pursuing your life’s purpose.” you’re contradicting yourself here a lot. What do friends and hobbies have to do with one’s purpose? One could very well have a very serious purpose, but because of that doesn’t have any energy or time for friends or hobbies, so ultimately you become just as uninteresting to women as an empty guy without a purpose. Let’s take the example of a medical student or doctor, most …
/r/seduction10/02/25 06:15 AM
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ok, you might be right, but why risk my whole life and money on a matriage as my very FIRST relationship with a woman? What’s wrong about having some experience and romance before that? I think the more inexperienced you are, the more likely your marriage will fail, at least that’s a factor of many factors
/r/seduction09/02/25 06:26 PM
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what will happen if I don’t want to have a purpose? I go to hell? 😂🤔
/r/seduction09/02/25 03:07 PM
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I don’t believe you, go open Tinder and put sorm lame selfie in front of the wall, if you’re truly good looking and tall as you’re saying, you’ll get matches
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:25 AM
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I get to know lots of people at uni and work, but the convos are always so superficial and no one cares about me enough to add me on facebook for example, so many acquaintances but nothing that develops out of it
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:24 AM
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and why is that? Isn’t that sexist? Who gets to decide what a man and what a woman should do? So a woman doesn’t need a purpose? Why does a man need a purpose? Who made that decree? Trump? Elon?
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:22 AM
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ok, but why are you assuming I’m so hell bent on longterm relationships/marriage and having a family? I envy guys who get the green light for making out and for having casual sex, much better than masturbating, and also much better than marriage and kids, after all, at one point you’ll have a divorce (happens every time) and then you’ll lose both the kids and a lot of your money, not worth it
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:20 AM
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but nowadays I experience more hostility from women for simply approaching in a nice and gentlemanly way and introducing myself. The atmosphere is getting very negative, with Insta making them feel “empowered” and deserving nothing less than a rich blonde 190cm guy, it’s their right, I’m not criticizing it, but why coming so cruel at me for simply being nice and “trying” as you are saying?
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:17 AM
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are you 10 year old? is that really all you got? calling me with these horrible labels? I’ve seen it countless times in my life, girls also literally rejected me beause of my height, they directly said it
/r/seduction09/02/25 11:14 AM
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well go approach and ask for numbers if you want then, I’m sure you’ll get much better results than me
/r/seduction08/02/25 11:36 PM
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fun fact, most guys I know who have attractive girlfriends have bubble guts (but they are tall, the only thing important to attractive girls), a far cry from defined abs, most guys I see with defined abs at the gym are pathetic losers who work their ass off in the gym and then take some miserable selfie, as if that’s what will get them a tinderella, pathetic
/r/seduction08/02/25 10:54 PM
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looks are important too, but if you’re a Tom Cruise with 165cm height, girls would still prefer a someone less good looking who is 190cm
/r/seduction08/02/25 10:47 PM
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yup, even Chads don’t always get the number/the date (on youtube many Chads get rejected sometimes), but on a scale of 1-10, a Chad is way more likely to get the date than some average Joe, in the end if I intrinsically feel I’ve got little to offer, what’s the point of the approach? Even if the girls give me their numbers. Mostly they expect the guy to be some alpha in his life, at his work, in his studies, in his social circles, if you’re not like that at all, isn’t it a waste of effort and ti…
/r/seduction08/02/25 10:01 PM
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yup, even Chads don’t always get the number/the date (on youtube many Chads get rejected sometimes), but on a scale of 1-10, a Chad is way more likely to get the date than some average Joe, in the end if I intrinsically feel I’ve got little to offer, what’s the point of the approach? Even if the girls give me their numbers. Mostly they expect the guy to be some alpha in his life, at his work, in his studies, in his social circles, if you’re not like that, isn’t it a waste of effort and time to a…
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:59 PM
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I’m a couple of cms below 180cm, which makes me by default extremely undesirable by most girls😓 not to rant here, but let’s be honest, if two guys approach a girl with the same sentences, one guy is like 175cm and the other is 188cm, we know who’s gonna go on a date with her
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:47 PM
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ok, well my experience has been the following, and I approached 100-200 women: most of them wanted to either exchange Instas or simply wished me a nice day, and no, exchanging Instas isn’t necessarily a bad idea (IF you have friends/followers and some decent presentable photos), several guys I know hooked up with above average looking girls through Insta (you know, the typical attractive gym girls), and I get the appeal, you get to show her your lifestyle and social status in a very casual and i…
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:44 PM
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ok, well my experience has been the following, and I approached 100-200 women: most of them wanted to either exchange Instas or simplly wished me a nice day, and no, exchanging Instas isn’t necessarily a bad idea (IF you have friends/followers and some presentable photos), several guys I know hooked up with girls through Insta, and I get the appeal, you get to show her your lifestyle and social status in a very casual and indirect manner, while exchanging numbers is more intimate and a thing of …
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:43 PM
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yes, countless women rejected me because I don’t have Insta/Snapchat, I’m apparently not cool enough if I don’t use those, a couple of years ago (like 8-10 years ago) it was pretty ok to ask for her number and chat with her on Whatsapp, but nowadays you make the impression that “you have no life” and “you’re a creep” if you dare approach them and you don’t use Insta, exception to this if you’re 190cm and above/hqve model looks, then suddenly you’re prince charming and not a creep anymore. And co…
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:26 PM
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yes, countless women rejected me because I don’t have Insta/Snapchat, I’m apparently not cool enough if I don’t use those, a couple of years ago (like 8-10 years ago) it was pretty ok to ask for her number and chat with her on Whatsapp, but nowadays you make the impression that “you have no life” and “you’re a creep” if you dare approach them and you don’t use Insta
/r/seduction08/02/25 09:24 PM
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ok, maybe I’m exaggerating a bit, but I swear, most girls I approach want guys who flash their lifestyle and the cool things they do with friends on Insta, and I have none of that
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:21 PM
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yeah, maybe, ask god? Not my fault. I’m autist by birth. Elon would have had the same misery with women had he not been a billionaire and famous
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:19 PM
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almost every woman who looks 7/10 and above, 95% of guys don’t have a chance with them
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:18 PM
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ok, why? What makes a nurse more attractive? poorly paid shifts? Not having studied at uni at all? Making like fifth to tenth of what a doctor makes at best?
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:00 PM
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that’s the problem right here, if you go to some “pickup artist” youtube channel, they’ll tell you you just had bad luck with the first 100 girls, maybe the 101th girl will say yes, which person would believe that bs? My confidence would be down the drain if I get rejected by 100 women in a row
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:58 PM
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So a male nurse/plumber/electrician is a better profession for getting girls? 🤦🤦🤦
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:54 PM
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I thought you wanted to give logical arguments, but all I read is you hating on doctors and comparing them with the richest of the rich of celebs. Makes no sense. You’re ignoring the real question, now let’s get back to reality and planet earth, is a male nurse more attractive than a doctor? Come on!
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:52 PM
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money will never get me a girlfriend. I’ll give you an example why looks and genetics will always beat money/social status. A friend of mine sucks at everything, but he’s a doctor and makes good money (ok, not influencer level kind of rich, but still above-average) and he NEVER got girls’ attention, never got a date, while I know several male nurses who only have their looks and height going for them, and they sleep with a new woman every 2-3 weeks
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:20 PM
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what if god simply made me an uninteresting guy ever since my birth (introvert,autist etc. )? I never had any social life, neither in kindergarden, nor in secondary school, nor in highschool nor at uni, it’s just the way I had always been. I rarely travelled, I never used Insta (why should I if I have no friends?) Should I fake my personality just to get a girlfriend? It doesn’t make sense
/r/seduction08/02/25 07:18 PM
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You say he deserves it, why? Just for having won the genetic lottery? Are you racist? Do you like Elon and his buddies by any chance? And no, when I offer money, what I get in return IS NOT a normal relationship, I get some transactional vague nothingness, and the girl is likely to dumb me when she gets bored and installs Tinder and finds all the cute blonde tall Chads
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:48 PM
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Please, do not come to me with that man/misogynist crap, whe I replied to you I DID NOT even notice who I was replyig to, I swear, I didn’t notice whether it was a guy or a girl I’m replying to, so please cut the crap with the political drama
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:43 PM
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that works only if you’re a blonde and tall guy with Western ethnicity, actually you don’t even need all that “game” crao if you’re that guy. If you’re an average looking/short guy with some ethnicitiy, everything and anything you do is creepy, even simpli existing (source: my own experiences)
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:41 PM
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what’s the point of having money if I suck at everything? It would never be a normal romance/loving relationship, while if you’re poor but Chad blonde and tall, you get to experience love, feelings, genuine reltionships, average looking rich guy can only dream of those things. Women are far more likely to dumb an ugly but rich guy for a broke but blonde tall Chad than vice versa. Love seems to happen only when you have certain genetics
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:38 PM
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because that makes it like 90% easier for you to get a girlfriend, maybe your “game” sucks, but girls give much more opportunities to dumb tall guys than charismatic shorter guys, they forgive lots of shortcomings that tall guys have, while a shorter guy even with a million in the bank is at best third or fifth in line
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:33 PM
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because that makes it like 90% easier for you to get a girlfriend, your frend did nothing wrong, he simply doesn’t appeal to most girls, his “game” has little to do with that. But people nowadays are so full of pc bs that they don’t want to admit it
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:31 PM
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approach is surely no guarantee to anything, several guys I know who would piss in their pants before approaching girls have attractive girlfriends, I don’t know how, but you can only approach and get rejected by so many before starting to question everything about life, not just your attractiveness/confidence. The main issue is that even when a mildly attractive girl does give you her number, she’s expecting in most cases that you have some sort of “game” some sort of “experience” and if that g…
/r/seduction08/02/25 05:35 PM
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approach is surely no guarantee to anything, several guys I know who would piss in their pants before approaching girls have attractive girlfriends, I don’t know how, but you can only approach so many before starting to question everything about life, not just your attractiveness. The main issue is that even when a mildly attractive girl does give you her number, she’s expecting in most cases that you have some sort of “game” some sort of “experience” and if that girl who gave you her number was…
/r/seduction08/02/25 05:33 PM
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op is simply being honest to himself and to the girl. I don’t believe in imaginary confidence sway, if you’re poor, you’re poor and definitely out of her league, the only exception is if you’re a blonde Chad with 190 height, then suddenly girls stop caring about money, your genes are the money then. I know, black pill af, but at least honest
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:31 PM
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nah, op was being realistic, no point in establishing any kind of relationships if the girl has different expectations about you, unless you’re 190cm ot above and have model looks, then it’s ok to be poor as a guy
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:29 PM
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let me guess, op, you’re above 185 cm tall?
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:27 PM
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what if you have the face and the muscles (many girls smile at me when at the gym, streets, library etc.), but you simply have no friends, no lifestyle, no hobbies beside going to the lame gym? That’s the main reason why I have abstained from approaching any girl the past 2-3 years, what’s the point if I literally have nothing to share or talk about? Isn’t it even creepy?
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:26 PM
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fun fact, most guys I know who have attractive girlfriends have bubble guts (but they are tall, the only thing important to attractive girls), no defined abs, most guys I see with defined abs ar the gym are pathetic losers who work their ass off in the gym and then take some miserable selfie, as if that’s what will get them a tinderella
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:23 PM
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with all due respect, your thread is bs. Take a look around the streets, at least where I live, the only thing that matters is the guy’s height, period (and to a lesser extent his face characteristics, but these matter less if you’re below 185 cm). If you want to “work” on your self, please do, but women would mostly care about that one thing which you cannot do anything about, namely height. And since you also mentioned money as a factor, may I say that this is also bs? Who would you attract wi…
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:19 PM
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What I find annoying is that many on this forum just rant on how guys are cowards and not confident enough to approach women. If you have 0 things to offer as a person, isn’t it an act of self-respect and dignity when you ignore women/avoid approaching them (EVEN if they smile at you, as in my case because of my above average looks)? What is there to talk about? If you’re a literal slob who maybe goes out once every two years with some colleagues he barely knows, at best, then how do you expect …
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:14 PM
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easy for you to say! When you feel you’re literally enslaved by uni, work, society, family and have no friends, how could you ever want to improve yourself?
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:10 PM
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let me guess, you’re above 6’1 and your friend is 5’9 or below
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:09 PM
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I know some guys who take part in things like language, tennis, dancing courses, so what? They still haven’t increased their chances in the dating life doing so, nothing changed for them
/r/seduction01/01/25 10:01 AM
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yeah, it’s both, with the numbers game being much easier the more you have to offer. But most guys are average and the more girls they approach, the more embarrassing it only gets
/r/seduction01/01/25 09:59 AM
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Inner game? Did you even read my comment? Let’s assume guy is a slob and has nothing to offer, no travel history, no lifestyle, no hobbies, no friends. On what basis will he have a good time with the girl? That looks absolutely hopeless
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:45 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:12 AM
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You’re making it as if not having the courage to approach women is the one and only reason men don’t have a gf. Many men approach many women and yet spend years on end alone because they always get rejected
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:11 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:10 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:10 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:10 AM
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I don’t know what to say to you. You’re 6’3 and still have issues with women? I’m 5’7 and so far that had been the only reason why I was unsuccessful with women, because many women had explicitly hinted at my height being the issue
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:09 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:07 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:06 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this? We see hundreds of reels about guys motivating other guys to approach women, that one should just be confident and funny etc. But it doesn’t end here, what about mutual chemistry, connection etc? They rarely talk about that. I feel if the guy is a slob, boring, doesn’t have a lifestyle/social life apart from uni, should avoid approaching women/working on having a girlfriend. How in the world would he be able to build any kind of relationship with her, even if o…
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:06 AM
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Do you think I’m right about this?
/r/seduction01/01/25 12:06 AM
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What if looks/height aren’t even the problem? Like, I had situations where girls were flirty with me, came real close to me, one even sat on my lap at a party, out of the blue. But I still felt like shit because I have 0 masculine energy/dominance, and girls feel that and run away. I could never see myself as the one “taking charge” of things, and no, I’m not gay, I’m attracted to women, but I don’t have what it takes as a guy
/r/seduction27/11/24 09:22 PM
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I did my fair share of assuming attraction when I did those approaches, believe me, no guy on earth would approach 300! different women for their numbers if he assumed he’s a piece of shit, I was a positive guy, if not, I would have probably approached 5-10 women at the most then stopped. You can’t approach so many if you truly had a negative mindset
/r/seduction27/11/24 08:31 PM
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you hit a nerve with the first paragraph. I have such a fucked up mood and mindset now, that even if I, out of the blue, become 190cm taller, nothing will improve, I feel a big hole inside of me, I think I could never repair that, this whole thing developed slowly after the whole approaches thing, I should have never done that, I now forever have an impaired self-worth feeling, I had a better perception of myself back in the days when I hadn’t talked to one single girl
/r/seduction27/11/24 08:29 PM
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And what are the “right stuff” ? Are they Subjective game as in a pretentious swag that I should pretend to have even if I feel like a piece of shit? Or are they simply objective stuff like wealth, Instagram follower count and how many cubic meteres my apartment is?
/r/seduction27/11/24 08:19 PM
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What if I’m not interested in the 150cm mamasitas, and only interested in the ice cold blonde 175cm gym princesses? Should I force myself to be attracted to girls I DON’T find attractive, just because those give me a chance? I’m 100% straight, but I don’t have this typical adaptation of attraction (surely out of horniness) many horny guys have (let’s reduce our standards because uglier girls give us a chance? Sorry bro, not for me)😄🤷
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:39 PM
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Let’s assume you’re right, let’s assume I do have a shitty mindset NOWADAYS, but how do you explain I got hundreds of rejections, some very cruel ones, back then ? although I DID have very positive mindset back then, I thought nothing of height and I used to take some hints from Todd V and other similar puas (not very seriously, but as an extra tool) and IT NEVER went anywhere, hundreds of rejections, man😓😭
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:35 PM
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What if I’m not her type? What’s the whole point of game then? When girls are snobbish to you for even saying hello, that’s a clear rejection from the start (I consider that to be a rejection and not a shit test,I’m not interested in being considered harassing her, I just vanish from her sight the second I notice the slightest disinterest from her, better safe than sorry), I do not want to game my way around that, I lack both the desire and the energy to be honest, better to be the indifferent a…
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:17 PM
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My shitty mindset? I never, I repeat, I never used to think anything about the importance of height in dating, it’s girls who on multiple occasions made that clear to me, literally. It’s not like I run around on dates talking about height. I don’t even get the opportunity for a date in the first place, because.. oh wait, because of height
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:11 PM
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My shitty mindset? I never, I repeat, I never used to think anything about the importance of height in dating, it’s girls who on multiple occasions made that clear to me, literally
/r/seduction27/11/24 07:09 PM
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Be tall, then you’re never boring, it’s so easy
/r/seduction27/11/24 06:37 PM
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What if you never even get to the shit test phase? Then it’s all fantasies and theories
/r/seduction27/11/24 06:37 PM
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What if the guy is socially inept/inteoverted autist and has no friends, no travel stories, no Instagram, no nothing, why would a beautiful girl want to have anything to do with a scum of a person?
/r/seduction27/11/24 06:36 PM
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yeah, exactly, a psychologist cares two cents about my love life
/r/seduction09/10/24 02:41 PM
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What bothers me is that I don’t have a constant dynamic of improvement, I could spend a couple of weeks and 1-2 months being the cool guy who doesn’t miss a festival or a party and tries to socialize with people and get to know girls like a normal person, and afterwards I could spend months on end having zero social life beside saying hello to the cashier at the supermarket, the whole thing is just undtable😓
/r/seduction09/10/24 01:55 PM
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ok, I understand, but if you get like 90 rejections from every 100 approaches and from those 90 rejections about 45 rejections which were really nasty (girl shouts at you, totally ignores your existence etc even though you were a nice gentleman and respectful towards her) and you already have low confidence, then you’d give up and lose hope quite fast
/r/seduction09/10/24 11:55 AM
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What if nobody wants to be my friend? 😓 what if I make the wrong friends (because of lack of experience)? Also regarding online dating, there are many girls (from what I’ve personally seen and heard) who put great value on a guy’s height, surely you don’t need to be Tom Cruise or Chris Hemmsworth to get some matches and dates on Tinder, but If many girls are hell bent on only dating guys who are 185 cm or taller, then it’s game over for me before I even start, but yeah, maybe there is 1 girl in …
/r/seduction09/10/24 11:50 AM
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hmm yeah I thought about sports, volunteering isn’t my thing and 99% of people there are guys, what should I do there?😅 online dating is only for rich male models🤷 clubs are for hot cool guys who have lots of friends, not for some average lonesome wolf
/r/seduction09/10/24 05:35 AM
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To be perfectly honest, I’d run away, I’d be creeped out if I were approached by anyone, man or woman, I always assume it’s either some joke or prank or something bad, I guess I shouldn’t complain if women react the same 😂🤷
/r/seduction08/10/24 08:03 PM
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Of course if the guy would be willing to date any girl, regardless whether she’s 3/10 or 2/10, he’d have much more chances, otherwise, how are all the poeple in society having children and multiplying? It’s not just the attractive people. But I guess as long as a guy is average and has very high standards he’ll suffer, possibly his whole life until he dies, unless he starts up some multibillion company like Elon 🤷
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:42 PM
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What are the alternatives? Crashing parties? Alone? been there, done that, they mostly treat you like you’re an alien or an autist.
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:22 PM
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yeah, the ones that do make it never needed advice anyway, they maybe happened to approach girls at the wrong time at the wrong place or simply needed a tweak/some fine tuning to their approaches, but by chance things started to improve, I personally doubt that a guy who has real potential ever needs advice from so called pick up artistas. Over the years I came to believe that confidence isn’t like money or muscle building, you don’t “work it up”, you’re either born with it or not, sadly.
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:21 PM
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yeah, the ones that do make it never needed advice anyway, they maybe happened to approach girls at the wrong time at the wrong place, but by chance things started to improve, I personally doubt that a guy who has real porential ever needs advice from so called pick up artistas
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:18 PM
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The only scenario I could think of, where a cute girl falls for a guy that is perceived by society as average is for said guy to be part of her friend or friends of friends circle, or colleagues with her and develop a year long relationship with her from seeing each other for months and years every single day, but that’s an uphill battle and she’d have access to much more attractive guys in the background, so the connection with said average guy has to be overwelmingly strong in order for that t…
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:17 PM
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Nah, I’m not attacking anyone, real life is the culprit, not me, it’s tough, I’m just describing how it is out there
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:11 PM
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Women do care about personality, but if you let’s say for whatever reasons only approach the best of the best looking of women, many will still react very strangely to your approach, REGARDLESS how nice/gentlemanly/courteous you were, believe me, many beautiful women (not all, but many) see guys who aren’t in their league as subhuman/inferior, it’s unfortunately like this, not to mention their obsession with height, “he needs to be taller so I can look up to him”, so my friends become jealous of…
/r/seduction08/10/24 05:09 PM
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I’m saying that if you’re an average guy, you’re fucked, neither cold/warm approaches nor the shallow online dating would work for you, but if you’re Chad you can do both, I doubt that a girl being cold approached by a guy that belongs to the superior 5% of males would say no to him
/r/seduction08/10/24 04:57 PM
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Are you sure you are in the year 2024 and not like in the year 2004 or 1990 ? From my experience, more women reacted very negatively to approaches, maybe because you’re taller/better looking than me ?
/r/seduction08/10/24 04:54 PM
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Well even the women themselves that I approach are very divided on this, many react so viciously to my approach although I’m a gentleman, she’s not forced to say yes by any means, but why act so evil? On the other hand, also many women who react very friendly and say to me that a gentleman like me should approach women more often and that it’s totally ok and normal (their words) 🤷 and since I’m a low value beta guy, I prefer to take the words of the women that tell me to stop approaching, since …
/r/seduction08/10/24 04:44 PM
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Tinder is only for Chads, unless you like wasting your time
/r/seduction08/10/24 04:40 PM
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Why are you answering with a question? If you have experience in this, yeah, you could help many guys I guess
/r/seduction08/10/24 04:00 PM
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nothing, I’m just asking for information
/r/seduction08/10/24 03:46 PM
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Can somebody answer this? Why do 50% of people tell me appraoching women is so out of line and primitive and the other 50% tell me no, you SHOULD approach women you find cute? Is it more about making rules for betas and breaking them for alphas? So if I’m a beta by society’s definition, I should just keep my mouth shut and stay away from women forever? Should only tall/rich guys approach women? I need to know, what are my rights, am I allowed to approach women at this time and age as a beta, sho…
/r/seduction08/10/24 02:55 PM
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Can somebody answer this? Why do 50% of people tell me appraoching women is so out of line and primitive and the other 50% tell me no, you SHOULD approach women you find cute? Is it more about making rules for betas and breaking them for alphas? So if I’m a beta by society’s definition, I should just keep my mouth shut and stay away from women forever? Should only tall/rich guys approach women? I need to know, what are my rights, am I allowed to approach women at this time and age as a beta, sho…
/r/seduction08/10/24 02:54 PM
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Can somebody answer this? Why do 50% of people tell me appraoching women is so out of line and primitive and the other 50% tell me no, you SHOULD approach women you find cute? Is it more about making rules for betas and breaking them for alphas? So if I’m a beta by society’s definition, I should just keep my mouth shut and stay away from women forever? Should only tall/rich guys approach women? I want to know, what are my rights, am I allowed to approach women at this time and age as a beta?
/r/seduction08/10/24 02:53 PM
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I neither get approached (I’m not a Chad) nor do I approach anymore (tried it like 100-150 times the past 3-4 years, no success whatsoever, only embarrassment and depression). And you mention Instagram, like what the hell is with this trend? I don’t use it, I’m 30, too old for this sh!t, am I fucked because of this for good? I only use Whatsapp🤷 most girls nowadays seem to be on the lookout for bling bling and flashy, fancy posts, I have nothing of that, and I don’t have any friends, tell me, am…
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:21 AM
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why do you specifically think a social job like the example you mentioned will have any improvement on my social skills? I do an internship for my studies for many moths now, and I talk to many people, and nothing has changed whatsoever, I’ve not become more sociable or talkative at all. Still the same barely existing basic social skills
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:58 AM
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The thing is, I’m not working on it whatsoever🤷😓 I’m doing the bare minimum for uni, which involves minimal interactions with people, it doesn’t help my social progress whatsoeverr, I think I have more social interactions with my neighbour’s pet pigeon when I visit them 😄😓 I never in my life, especially also the past years, have had real, organic conversations and interactions with people, it’s mostly very cramped up hello, whats up how was the day/week etc lame as hell. Sometimes at lunch break…
/r/seduction24/07/24 10:35 PM
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That’s my biggest issue and fear, I have pretty good looks and many guys I personally know envy me for my jawline and looks in general (but still not good enough to be considered a Chad, a Chad can be a total autist and still get girls, I’m not THAT good looking, but I feel girls would give a lot of chances if I were somewhat normal socially and communication-wise, but I’m not 😓), I’m simply fucking cringe and a failure when it comes to communication, goal setting and confidence, ESPECIALLY with…
/r/seduction24/07/24 08:33 PM
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what if you play it too safe? Like she touches you but you back off? Is that also wrong?
/r/seduction24/07/24 03:54 PM
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What if you’re a hot dude (nothing crazy here, not a Chad or something, but still get many smiles and signals) but you’re not a sociable guy, don’t have friends and aren’t active on Insta? Would you still be approached some day?
/r/seduction24/07/24 03:53 PM
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I’m a nobody, not just a beta. Is that cringe? Fine, I feel I’m the biggest loser on earth, no value whatsoever as a guy. I CAN fake confidence, but where will this exactly get me? Nothing more than a number or two, girls see right through that, even if we exchange numbers, I have nothing to offer on a whatsapp chat, nothing, so it will n e v e r materialise to a date. And even if I ever get a date with the girl, mark my words, I’m gonna go back home alone, nothing will happen. I see it before i…
/r/seduction07/07/24 11:51 PM
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I’m a nobody, not just a beta. Is that cringe? Fine, I feel I’m the biggest loser on earth, no value whatsoever as a guy. I CAN fake confidence, but where will this exactly get me? Nothing more than a number or two, girls see right through that, even if we exchange numbers, I have nothing to offer on a whatsapp chat, nothing, so it will n e v e r materialise to a date. And even if I ever get a date with the girl, mark my words, I’m gonna go back home alone, nothing will happen. I see it before i…
/r/seduction07/07/24 11:51 PM
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I have a 100 issues on my mind, not just dating, and I have no idea where I should start, but the eternal single life is also torturing
/r/seduction06/07/24 09:02 AM
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I approached almost every 7-10/10 girl I saw when at the library, groceries, street, gym etc, so many that sometimes I approached the same girl twice, and that was horrible and very embarrassing, my talking and humour skills are very basic, it’s like I literally repeated the same sentences when I aporoached all those 200-300 girls
/r/seduction06/07/24 09:00 AM
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I’m the biggest loser on earth I have no game whatsoever. I have no humour whatsoever, no social skills at all, no friends, no life experience, no travel experience, no hobbies. How will my dating life ever change if I have all these handicaps? (btw. I did day game and cold approaches countless times, it brought me nothing more than misery and embarrassment😓)
/r/seduction05/07/24 11:10 PM
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I’m the biggest loser on earth I have no game whatsoever. I have no humour whatsoever, no social skills at all, no friends, no life experience, no travel experience, no hobbies. How will my dating life ever change if I have all these handicaps? (btw. I did day game and cold approaches countless times, it brought me nothing more than misery and embarrassment😓)
/r/seduction05/07/24 11:09 PM
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I’m the biggest loser on earth I have no game whatsoever. I have no humour whatsoever, no social skills at all, no friends, no life experience, no travel experience, no hobbies. How will my dating life ever change if I have all these handicaps? (btw. I did day game and cold approaches countless times, it brought me nothing more than misery and embarrassment😓)
/r/seduction05/07/24 11:09 PM
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I’m the biggest loser on earth I have no game whatsoever. I have no humour whatsoever, no social skills at all, no friends, no life experience, no travel experience, no hobbies. How will my dating life ever change if I have all these handicaps? (btw. I did day game and cold approaches countless times, it brought me nothing more than misery and embarrassment😓)
/r/seduction05/07/24 11:07 PM
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what if the one, two friends I know have it just as difficult with women as me, if not even more? They would be more of an obstacle to my improvement than a real help😓🤷
/r/seduction05/07/24 08:47 PM
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What should I even say? 😓 I have nothing else to say other than maybe ask about the weather or where the nearest Starbucks is, I’m lost😓😞
/r/seduction05/07/24 07:39 PM
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but let’s say I see a cute girl while travelling by train, can I simply start a conversation with and start joking around? Isn’t that socially awkward?
/r/seduction05/07/24 03:35 PM
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Well my experience has been the opposite, girls hate being cold approached, at least where I live, or maybe they just want that done by certain guys, I don’t know. Also I’m by nature not playful/funny/witty, what am I doing approaching them?😓
/r/seduction05/07/24 05:36 AM
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You got their numbers? Also this is Ukraine, not some western country where many girls know that they could get the hottest guy, you know, Tinder mentality. Also, you’re pretty tall, right?
/r/seduction04/07/24 11:00 PM
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I could never just converse with any woman I want to talk to randomly, I’ll tell you why. Most girls you see around the street, doing groceries etc are just doing their thing. They don’t careat all about some guy wanting to improve his game/social skills (and I understand that, they don’t even know me, they don’t owe me anything), some girls (but not many) have told me when I approached (but they themselves were taken) that it’s cute what I’m doing and a gentleman like me should approach women w…
/r/seduction04/07/24 10:38 PM
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I just feel like it’s an impossible task to ever build any sort of connection with a girl. I could like ask about hobbies, ok, then we proceed to talking about gym and workouts, and then maybe some another boring topic like cooking or the weather. But I feel totally numb when I do these talks, there is never a spark, it’s just never there, afterwards when I ask for the number it feels like the most awkward and embarrassing thing to do, since we didn’t have any sort of connection, just emotionles…
/r/seduction04/07/24 05:00 PM
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aha, and after 2-3 minutes you think they will want to give me their number? Without having built any connection or rapport? I doubt it. My experience has never been this way, regardless how short or long the conversation was. I have no issues about saying hello how it’s going to every single girl I see passing by, but I’m telling you, not one single girl of them will go on a date with me. At best we will miraculously exchange numbers, but then after the hello how are you on whatsapp, they will …
/r/seduction03/07/24 11:02 PM
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“Maybe having a job that keeps you interacting with the public constantly will help.” I have some kind of internship I have to do for my studies, some good amount of interactions (although I lothe that as a weird aspergers guy), but before that it was much worse, I was fully stay at home to study for an exam which I failed and had to repeat two times and wasted like two years of my life for that (no gym even, just jome and library), it felt like the worst hell one can go through 😞
/r/seduction03/07/24 10:51 PM
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What’s that? I don’t know it
/r/seduction03/07/24 07:59 PM
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Exactly, I’m a socially handicapped aspergers. Throughout my whole life making friends had been a drain, not to mention the even much more difficult connection to women. But I’m not hating or blaming anyone, I’m just stating my difficulties in life.
/r/seduction03/07/24 07:57 PM
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Well, when I see another guy who approached them just after I had moved away from their sight, the other guy wouldn’t say anything smart or funny, just the same lame boring greeting that I do, the only difference is, he would be clearly taller, and, which I find sad in today’s world, smelling pretty bad (beer, or urine or smoke) while I had put on some nice Chanel or YSL fragrance. I thought women do appreciate men who take care of their hygiene and shower, but my experience so far has been: be …
/r/seduction03/07/24 05:14 PM
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How about if you’re so inexperienced, desperate and horny that you can’t get the frustration, desire and horniness out of your mind and thus your brain is clouded and you can’t move one iona forward in your life, work, studies//you can’t plan anything in your life as long as you’re single? While you know for sure and your experience so far was that you are nothing attractive/special to women at your current state (you never got a number, the “dates” never went anywhere further) ? My life, namely…
/r/seduction03/07/24 05:05 PM
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How can I ever have a gf or any sort of relationship with girls if If I have zero game in spite of the fact that I have good looks, and more often than not girls stare me down from head to toe and smile at me much more often than the average guy? Am I doomed to staying single forever despite my looks if I’m so stupid and clueless regarding talking to girls and building any sort of connection? I’m generally not that sociable at all, I barely make it past a couple of sentences when talking to peop…
/r/seduction03/07/24 05:00 PM
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How could being attractive in other areas help, if many (well not all, but many many) girls don’t even allow you to greet yourself if you’re below a certain height ? (happened to me several times, and I’m 5’8🤷) So not even initial basic interaction is allowed to take place
/r/seduction03/07/24 04:58 PM
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So let’s say I turn my focus 100% to goals, studies, work, hobbies, travel and gym, and become a high value person in the long run, would a woman some day, on a festival/conference/event/groceries/etc. approach me by herself and ask me out? I think when I turn my full energy to hustle and work, I just completely ignore women altogether and I would never go back to my old self, and never do the first step anymore, or will I then stay a high value but single man, as long as I’m not willing to appr…
/r/seduction29/06/24 09:42 PM
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So you’re saying I should pause the pickup thing for now? Where should I start? I have no idea
/r/seduction29/06/24 09:06 PM
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“you could improve youself” Ok, what about height? If I’m 175cm, how can I get to 185-190cm? What pills should I take or which surgeries should I go through? questions, questions🤷 Let’s be real here. Girls treat guys differently, depending on their looks and height. I’ll give you a real life example and I you know you won’t believe me, but I don’t care: I was at a festival the other day, I approached two girls same as my height, I simply introduced myself, I was nice, I wore elegant clothes and …
/r/seduction29/06/24 05:08 PM
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“you could improve youself” Ok, what about height? If I’m 175cm, how can I get to 185-190cm? What pills should I take or which surgeries should I go through? questions, questions🤷
/r/seduction29/06/24 05:02 PM
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haha exactly, it’s not about who is more or less boring. It’s about compatibility. I know that many of these hot blondes who post a new story every fucking hour on insta could be boring as hell in bed, but it is what it is, they are the ones that are physically attractive and every guy drools over. And they wouldn’t want to have anything to do with some guy next door, who has never travelled in his life and whose only friends are cats and pigeons😞😓🐈🐦‍⬛
/r/seduction29/06/24 05:00 PM
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haha what if it’s just a placebo effect/if it does work but just not for a certain guy because he’s not tall/attractive/high value enough etc ? Then said guy would spend decades of his life, possibly until he dies, thinking he was high value avoiding all the girls, pretending he’s got a lot going on in his life while getting no gf throughout his whole life and dying like a miserable dog?🤷🤔
/r/seduction29/06/24 03:59 PM
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I have an honest question and maybe someone could help. What if I’m neither a fun sociable guy who radiates fun, sexual energy, which would attract sexy instagram/gym girls, and also not a serious, mature/grounded guy who has fixed boundaries and goals, who would attract girls looking for something serious? How would I ever have sny kind of connection with girls?😓
/r/seduction29/06/24 03:56 PM
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I have an honest question and maybe someone could help. What if I’m neither a fun sociable guy who radiates fun, sexual energy, which would attract sexy instagram/gym girls, and also not a serious, mature/grounded guy who has fixed boundaries and goals, who would attract girls looking for something serious? How would I ever have sny kind of connection with girls?😓
/r/seduction29/06/24 03:56 PM
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Absolutely not, but for many girls I’m the weirdo from the nineteenth century, they don’t want to date such a weirdo, right from the start🤷 although I have nothing against pop/hip hop in general, it’s them who are often intolerant of different tastes. So no, music tastes aren’t the make or break factor, but when the tastes in general are so widely different (I say in general since I of course like to go to parties and festivals, so I don’t completely live in the nineteenth century😄🙈, but it’s mo…
/r/seduction28/06/24 05:54 AM
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Can I be fun to 20 something girls when 99% of music I listen to consists of Mozart, Brahms, Schubert, Schumann, Liszt and Wagner works? 😞🤷🙈 Serious question. Because I couldn’t relate to hiphop, rap and rave music, which most of today’s girls, especially the attractive gym ones, seem to worship so passionately 🤷
/r/seduction27/06/24 11:22 PM
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No idea, advice maybe?
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:56 PM
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Haha and how will I be able to work on my social skils if no one wants to be friends with me? I also seem to have become indifferent to my basically non existent social life in the past years, I have neglected almost everything in my life, studies, work, family, social life, hobbies etc in the hope that I get a gf if I solely focus on that, four years of my life down the fucking drain
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:56 PM
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what if you’re used to rejection and got mercilessly rejected like a thousand times and then out of the blue a girl (seemingly) likes you/smiles a lot towards you/sends you “signals”? How will the broken fragile ego of mine take this? I’d be saying to myself the whole time, nah she also isn’t interested like the thousand girls before her, she’s just playing games etc but I know deep down that this could be real attraction this time, but if I’m only used to rejection and disappointment, how will …
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:53 PM
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what if I’m desperate for a girlfriend (30 yo, never had a gf) and I don’t enjoy festivals/parties that much and have almost no friends but still stubbornly go to parties/festivals in the hope that some girl magically gets interested in me whilr I know that that will be a huge waste of time like it is always instead of sitting at home and studying for my future😓😞
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:48 PM
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guys I need your advice, what if a guy isn’t serious/reliable/grown up enough for a serious relationship but also isn’t sexy/fun/playful enough for a casual/fwb relationship? I feel I’m open to both types of relationships, but I’m not suitable for either, anyone relates? 😓😞
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:45 PM
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yeah right, as if doing countless cold approaches raieses your chances of ever finding someone🤷 I’m no Chad, but I think I’m ok with regards to looks, I’m not the shortest or ugliest out there, I have decent style, but well, my charisma/personality are subpar, I wouldn’t say they are the reason why things aren’t working for me, because I notice many girls turn cold towards me the second I greet them/say hello etc you can’t demonstrate your charisma simply by saying hello, so I think there is mor…
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:45 PM
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guys I need your advice, what if a guy isn’t serious/reliable/grown up enough for a serious relationship but also isn’t sexy/fun/playful enough for a casual/fwb relationship? I feel I’m open to both types of relationships, but I’m not suitable for either, anyone relates? 😓😞
/r/seduction27/06/24 10:40 PM
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I just get smiles and attention every now and then, it isn’t rare for me, but I just suck at social interactions, like I have nothing to tell, no way to connect with girls, nothing cheerful or interesting to tell, it’s a torture😓
/r/seduction08/06/24 10:13 PM
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So your tip is, forget women altogether for 1-2 years, act totally asexual and work on other parts of my life? Possible but very difficult, but what’s the alternative? I have been trying to get women to like me while ignoring other areas of my life for the past 10 years and nothing positive whatsoever happened other than lowering my social status and living on resources barely enough to survive
/r/seduction08/06/24 08:48 PM
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I have an honest question and I hope you could help, since I’m a new member I can’t post this as a thread, so I’ll write it as a comment. Let’s assume I’m at point zero, I have zero friends, zero travel experience, zero life experience, zero anything, except my academics are going ok, I’m not jobless, I have a roof over my head, I have an ok body, I workout every now and then, have very little body fat and a decent amount of muscle, but I’m below 180 cm height, etc, buy I have nothing interestin…
/r/seduction08/06/24 07:57 PM
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I have an honest question and I hope you could help, since I’m a new member I can’t post this as a thread, so I’ll write it as a comment. Let’s assume I’m at point zero, I have zero friends, zero travel experience, zero life experience, zero anything, except my academics are going ok, I’m not jobless, I have a roof over my head, I have an ok body, I workout every now and then, have very little body fat and a decent amount of muscle, but I’m below 180 cm height, etc, buy I have nothing interestin…
/r/seduction08/06/24 07:55 PM
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I have an honest question and I hope you could help, since I’m a new member I can’t post this as a thread, so I’ll write it as a comment. Let’s assume I’m at point zero, I have zero friends, zero travel experience, zero life experience, zero anything, except my academics are going ok, I’m not jobless, I have a roof over my head, I have an ok body, I workout every now and then, have very little body fat and a decent amount of muscle, but I’m below 180 cm height, etc, buy I have nothing interestin…
/r/seduction08/06/24 07:51 PM
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