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Women are socialized differently. Hormones influence behavior differently. Women generally are not evaluating men the same way men evaluate women. This isn't enough info to debunk that RP is wrong about looks. "She said she wanted an intelligent, kind guy!" Because instead of believing what women say they value, you assume they're lying and replace their perspective with your own. What are you trying to say here? Are they falsely claiming the guy she is dating actually a jerk? Your explanations …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:48 PM
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The abstract in Oxford Academic for "Women's Relative Resources and Couples' Gender Balance in Financial Decision-Making" states the following - among couples in which wives earn almost all of the income, we find that husbands are reported to have more say in financial decision-making than among couples in which both contribute a substantial part of the joint income. Isn't this the complete opposite of what you are claiming?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:55 AM
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What? I want to see this. Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:56 PM
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We still need to reproduce to keep our species alive. Reproduction is a byproduct of our sexual desires. People in the past who didn't have it died out. Our natural tendency is to want to reproduce. No. Sex is our natural tendency. But I think any neurotypical, able-bodied, "normal" woman for lack of a better word that's so vehemently against being a wife or mother should take a long reflection on why they feel that way. You don't think they haven't done so? The invention of birth control have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:52 AM
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I agree that women can change their minds. Women are not a monolith. Sometimes a friendship develop after the rejection and he turns out to be a great guy. The woman sends signal for the guy to try again and he responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:48 PM
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So the 2019 male cohort was less likely to judge that the victim derived pleasure from it (47.4% in 1984 compared with 5.8% in 2019). And the 2019 female cohort was more likely to attribute pleasure to the male victim (25% in 2019 compared with 5% in 1984). The overall rate has gone down. It seems that the cultural attitudes held in 1984 may have been passed down differently to each gender, with the opposing shifts in men and women partially balancing each other out. I think it's natural for par…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:38 AM
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When you've been on PPD long enough, you've seen every argument against every possible way of meeting people. Cold approaching ("The police will get called on me!") Social groups ("They're too clicky" "There is one woman and five men" "A bunch of married couples") College ("They are in their prime, slutty and only date rich Chad") OLD ("I'm not 6 feet tall!") There isn't one magic solution. If meeting people isn't happening naturally, you have to combine multiple low probability opportunities to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:10 PM
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Good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:18 PM
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Agree. "Dated a few times sparsely" sounds like a woman who he contacts when he is bored. She may have used the help request to gauge where she stood with him. Maybe she spam text messaged a bunch of people. Either way the way the relationship was described was offputting. Edit: Turned out she ghosted OP after their dates. This is why describing relationships should be clear because ambiguous language is often used by shitty people that it's easy to give the wrong impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:22 PM
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It's ok that you don't want a friendship. You just don't naturally jive with women in that capacity. I feel like being friends with women after rejection is a simp/beta male move. But this part is concerning because sounds less like a personal preference and more like a belief that being kind to or friends with women diminishes a man's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:07 AM
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I absolutely seen that. It's crazy. It's one thing to state "that's not what the article is about" and debate about it. It's another to ask what's in the article to show they didn't read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:57 AM
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Humans are social creatures. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:28 AM
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OP - This article is the topic of discussion. Me - The article is X, Y, Z Them - Is that what the article is saying or are you making shit up? Me - No... It's in the article... Read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:39 AM
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This dude literally did everything in his power to get a date ??? Not really. He used the free version of the app which limited you to 8 swipes a day. Apps need to make money. If the free version works, they would not survive. Idk if this guy is socially intelligent or not. He seems fine on video but that doesn't mean much in practice. He was getting ghosted a lot in conversations. He is young and treated following someone on Instagram as something special. Just seem like his timing was off on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:34 PM
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Most people interpreted it the same way. I suggest rewording and reposting if your point isn't coming across.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:36 PM
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That's what he said in the Hinge voice note. "So I guess my thing is like, what would be the point of me coming over then if we’re not going to hook up and cuddle and be intimate with each other"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:26 PM
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Women are given more leeway by men. This should be a question for men. Women giving other women more leeway with this behavior doesn't have the same impact because they are not dating each other in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:21 PM
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Lots of countries have programs trying to increase pair bonding and they are failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:18 PM
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Pointing out a correlation/causation isn't promotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:05 PM
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So many women here say stuff about "making women lower their standards would be bad for men " or some variety of it Because the men advise them to lower their standards. But what they forget is that women already lower their standards Then why are men advising them to lower their standards? Maybe the women do lower it and it's not low enough for the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:02 AM
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There is a proper way to reject someone and an improper way to. Telling a woman she is pointless for a second date if there is no sex is improper.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:50 AM
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Me - Makes a gender neutral statement. Them - "Well you wouldn't say that if it was happening to your gender!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:30 AM
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He will have to prove that in the courts and that would get messy real quick. And probably more expensive than the actual money spent on the child. Currently men are able to identify and take on the legal responsibility as a father of a child that is not biologically theirs. It's currently not a crime to do that. The man will have to prove that he didn't know the child wasn't his biologically. He also has to prove that the mother wasn't simply mistaken and intended to lie for it to be fraudulent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:47 AM
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Correct and legally no one is going to take money back for the child... Because it's a child. The antiquated legal definition of a father is now a loophole due to the availability of DNA testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:31 AM
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It seems so obvious of a solution, the only reason it is opposed is to facilitate the evolutionary need of a woman to commit paternity fraud. Many people oppose it because legally the money went to the child not the mother. The mother was the custodian of the money. Can't really take money back from a minor. Reliable paternity DNA testing wasn't around til the mid 1980's so alot of the legal definition who is the responsible father was based on the relationship with the mother. This is why pater…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:23 AM
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How can you claim the someone knows that but than later admit the phenomena is often hidden?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:48 PM
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Media messages don't have to align perfectly to influence people. Most don't watch things with a critical eye like that. In "A Bug's Life", the "be yourself" message is laid on thick by showing a diverse group of characters coming together to defeat the enemy using their unique skills. The romantic subplot sends a message that even if she wasn't interested in the beginning, once he proves himself he earns her affection. It suggests that this is how things should work in the real world. Them bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:27 AM
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Nothing because sometimes there is mutual interest but also other priorities that prevent him from making a move. He can be talking to someone else that he is interested in as much as me or more. Or he has life problems that he needs to figure out and it's not a good time to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:08 PM
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Everyone understands the emotion of being lonely. Some people can't read so they can't talk about books.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:51 PM
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The wedding event and wearing that white dress is definitely a driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:38 PM
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The red pill, for all its faults, is built on that: know what you want, and know you have to become a certain kind of man to get it. A lot of women skip that step. They assume they already have it. Supply and demand. Of course they already have it. They are the supply. A woman will make you plan the whole date, then judge you for not making it good enough, even though you're both there for each other. They are not there to impress each other. A man planning a whole date is in the position to imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:12 AM
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The most straightforward answer ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:15 PM
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Then you open TikTok and see endless videos of women saying Oh the algorithm...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:13 AM
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Another person commented that my boyfriend is a sucker and loser because we met in person and we didn’t connect on the apps. This take is going to get more common and I'm not surprised that they truly believe that your boyfriend is a sucker. Your "likes" are more important than having sex with you IRL. More young people are growing up with the internet and personally investing alot into their online personas. The 5 photos and the two sentence bio are perceived as a true reflection of themselves.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:45 PM
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So I can take half of my hubby's income? I could just go to the bank with my marriage cert and gain access to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:13 PM
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These two stories represent the opposite forms of objectification. Ghosting someone is discarding them without regard. Pretty much trash. Not giving them enough respect to send a simple message "I do not wish to continue our interactions" to let them know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:09 PM
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Lol And some people think men don't have the advantage in society. They are all rich with great genes. Must be nice. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:17 PM
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Then Feminism came along with a narrative that painted women as prisoners and slaves of men. Above is OP's hyperbole that I wanted OP to expand upon because it was just tacked on in the end without further explanation and connection to the rest of the post. Feminism paints men as an oppressor class even though a large portion of men have zero influence or edge over women. Above is a statement is from another commenter. I think this statement is a copout because nothing is ever "100% of insert pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:23 PM
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OP introduced the concept of feminism in their post as if it came out of no where in human history without good reason. I'm obviously talking about history. I stated that clearly in my comment. Modern feminism deals with far more complex and debatable issues, but that's a separate discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:20 AM
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I don't care how many CEOs are men. That's a frankly insignificant example to use to dismiss history. OP introduced the concept of feminism in their post as if it came out of no where in human history without good reason. There were plenty of systemic barriers that limited women's power, such as being denied the right to vote or even open their own bank accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:12 AM
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Another day BrainMarshal go around accusing people of things without proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:07 AM
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Just because everyone wasn't participating or being oppressed it doesn't mean it wasn't happening at a societal level. It's a general statement like most discussions that would be cumbersome to state "bUT NOt eVerYoNe".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:06 AM
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I'm so confused by the last paragraph. What does feminism have to do with any of this? Humans have been more tribalistic in the past. Yeah men have more variables in certain traits but they are still more alike than different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:52 PM
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Fling is the perfect word for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:43 PM
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What are these consequences that you are talking about? Whether labeling it as a situationship or a pump/dump doesn't change the effect of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:42 PM
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It's funny because OP's pill is supposed to judge people by their actions. Having sex, going on a bunch of relationship-esque dates/romantic communication, and only then ending things months later is hardly what anyone would call a "pump and dump." It's trying to rewrite history for power play.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:04 PM
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Can you get dumped by someone you didn't even try to have a relationship with? One's ego taking a hit isn't the same as being dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:49 PM
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Intent is very hard to verify unless people a super emotionally aware and open about it. Early dating is ambiguous by nature. That's why the term "pump and dump" label is about action. These are action words. I witness many men who thought their f* buddy wanted a relationship only to have a surprised Pikachu face when the woman move on to the next guy without even trying to have a relationship conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:41 PM
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It's defined by his intentions from the beginning. His initial intentions and what the relationship turns out later can be different. Men are capable to change their mind at any part of the process. Pump and dump, the way it is phrased and used within PPD implies a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:24 PM
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because of the tabooness of the sexual act, or the man, or how you feel you will be perceived by other men. No, the restrain comes from not wanting to experience sexual regret because sometimes men misrepresent themselves (like they were married) or I found an "ick" after getting to know them more (like being a racist).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:19 PM
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I think it's fake news. I tried to find the bill from legit news sites and can only find it on Facebook/Instagram/X. A man can recover all the money he spent on the child too. One X posts stated that the money only can be recovered from the bio father if that bio father knew about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:53 AM
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Trying to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Even if a man purelu work on his looks and start scheduling dates, he still has to converse and entertain on these dates. He should get some practice in on women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:07 AM
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Your post is far from AI slop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:51 AM
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but many here actally attack scientific research with "i dont think so" and "i dont belive it" Links to these comments? Because a lot of comments by women here are pretty detailed about the interpretations of the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:26 PM
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Maybe some of these simps/wks don't find themselves negatively impacted by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:59 PM
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☝️☝️☝️ Agree. It's a weird thing to say about someone you don't know is even interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:09 PM
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Yes, the racist one. The moment he realized he had different feelings for his daughter is when he should have taken action.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:28 PM
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I somewhat sympathize with the man in the second story for questioning the paternity but his let his relationship with his son and wife deteriorate to the point of no return. He was so convinced that cheating happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:52 PM
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Yes, she has thought of divorce because the type of man who demand a paternity test is probably not a good husband or father anyway. Why go out of his way to hurt his wife when he can just do it without her knowledge? It's because he already made up his mind about her and their future. https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/04/dear-prudence-my-husband-demands-a-paternity-test-for-no-good-reason.html https://np.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/lq7ugNgvNH https://np.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/IRtZOWv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:37 PM
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People with positive experiences with dating typically don't participate in PPD. So yes, more childfree (and manfree) women will be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:02 PM
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Because you are in a debate sub. If you write positive things about anything, nay sayers will come to claim they are all lies and conspiracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:42 PM
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Simple people are not necessarily frustrating to date. They are actually very easy date because they tend to go with the flow of what the other person wants to do. Their lack of strong opinions minimize their ability to offend others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:23 AM
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Because abortion right is based on the principles of bodily autonomy. Your physical body can't be used against your will to directly support the life of another. Organ donation is an example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:07 AM
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Why should she get that right but not him. Men have the right not to be pregnant. If someone found a way to implant a fetus into their body, they have the right to get it removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:46 AM
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This is possibly the longest in PPD...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:02 PM
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OP - "I'm going to change the definition of a term that women created to describe their experiences and twist it in some sort of gotcha."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:11 PM
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I gather from the context that a "bangmaid" is a romantic/sexual female partner who does traditional female tasks such as cooking and cleaning. You gathered wrong, especially the romantic part. How in the heck are you blatantly refusing to believe the derogatory context of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:46 PM
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There is no actual "fairness" or equality in dating. It seems like it there should be because it's selectively enforced socially and we want people to be consistent. Even if people try to be consistent, there is subjectivity and framing that will keep us on different pages. The only fair thing is both consenting parties have a desire to be with each other. What is fake empathy and invalidation to you maybe exactly the info someone else needed to move on from their disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:40 AM
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Agree. Ideally find compatible women and don't chase the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:59 AM
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Then tell that to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:18 PM
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Ok. Tiktoks are not thinkpieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:08 PM
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The pornstar is the drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:59 PM
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A cocaine addict can talk about how terrible the drug is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:55 PM
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"I can't believe no women want to be with me! If someone would just choose me, I will be loyal to them!" Because I don't have the opportunity to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:17 PM
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Words have meanings. These are not thinkpieces, no matter the how you try to twist the words of the people highlighting this and accuse them of something they are not doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:12 PM
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You think TikTok counts as thinkpieces...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:54 AM
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This thread is intended for funny discussions within PPD. I like to post simplified versions of conversations I had in PPD like this. My comment was to illustrate that some people don't get their own analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:17 AM
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It's not an argument...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:47 PM
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Them - "Dating is like being interviewed for a job." Me - "They will only go to the interview if the salary is good." Them - "OMG! Women aren't prostitutes!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:43 PM
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This scenario is unrealistic. Rarely anyone go from zero interest to playboy. It sounds like someone caught the interest of maybe 2 women around the same time and their ego got inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:15 PM
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Agree with the assessment on people with avoidant attachment. The idea of me being around someone who I don't really like makes me anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:13 PM
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When you frame it as a societal and not a "me" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:29 PM
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Wow... I never thought of that 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:09 PM
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It came across like that when you described Gen Z as "gunning for" Gen Alpha but I misunderstood. Too many pillers take the "wall" concept too literally. It's better to succeed in your 30s than not succeed at all. The obsession with an idealized 20s often causes people to overlook how much happiness, growth, and success can still come later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:10 PM
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This is a common leap people make when comparing younger and older women. The fact that men prefer younger women does not automatically mean they have zero interest in older women. That conclusion doesn't match how people actually behave. Before widespread birth control, women commonly had their last child around age 40. Men were still marrying, sleeping with, and remaining in relationships with these women throughout that period. Preference is not the same thing as exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:37 PM
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Your reference literally have mutiple (Boomers, millennials) generations. Nothing is different for Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:59 PM
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Number of times I witnessed men in PPD insisted that age-gap criticism infantilizes women: 836 Number of times I witnessed women in PPD said the same thing: 1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:09 AM
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We have to kiss a few frogs to find our prince. ❤️ I agree it is silly to be upset but it's a thing I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:41 PM
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So you met men who wants to pay and women who wants men to pay. They are compatible. How is that ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:02 PM
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Tell that to the abandoned kids in those sex tourist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:39 PM
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But if that were the case then their behaviour would represent that. Men's behavior would represent that too but it doesn't by a long shot. I was making the case the high risk part is why many men are opting out today and seeking alternatives. But they are not relative to women. You can see that in the imbalance in supply and demand. Women are still very much in demand. Even I refuse to believe women are that retarded and horny. Supply and demand. The demand for sex is by men. Cardi B bragged ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:32 AM
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I get the value of simplifying everyones mate selection process down to one general explanation for the sake of PPD discussion but that doesn't mean an individual's specific process (in this case therapy speak) is an act of lying or deception. Dating standards are subjective by nature. Hypergamy is a social construct, not a fixed objective truth, so its application is inherently flexible and open to interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:17 AM
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That's the point of therapy speak. You frame yourself positively to help motivate yourself to strive to live your best life. Someone who insists on reframing those same ideas in the most unflattering way possible is usually trying to do the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:14 AM
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Source? Outside of PPD and pill content, I never seen the word hypergamy being used and much less these type of women getting defensive about it. This is what I'm getting at. If you don't want to show real examples of this very PARTICULAR interaction than that's fine. Typically women who state these things got burned in the past and just airing out their emotional state to the public to help heal. I think you are missing the point why they are communicating these things. This is giving you an al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:43 PM
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But if we drop the modern therapy-speak and actually look at the behavior behind these buzzwords, let's be honest with ourselves, it’s just hypergamy. People get incredibly defensive when you use that word, treating it like some kind of insult. Strip away the viral catchphrases, and it’s the exact same vetting process that’s existed for thousands of years securing the highest-value partner available.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:27 PM
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Source? Outside of PPD and pill content, I never seen the word hypergamy being used and much less these type of women getting defensive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:33 PM
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Source? Outside of PPD and pill content, I never seen the word hypergamy being used and much less these type of women getting defensive about it. Typically women who state these things got burned in the past and just airing out their emotional state to the public to help heal. I think you are missing the point why they are communicating these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:23 PM
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https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/american-homicide-victims-are-mostly-men-except-when-the-killer-is-an-intimate-partner[Most male murders are due to crime and gang violence.](https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/american-homicide-victims-are-mostly-men-except-when-the-killer-is-an-intimate-partner) It's obvious that men don't worry about female partner violence as much as women. If they did, men within PPD won't suggests that male partner violence are either too rare or invited and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:37 PM
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It's great that OP is trying different things. It's pretty rare here to come across someone who is actually putting in the effort to maximize their chances. Hopefully Gen Z is just going through a weird slump in their 20's and maybe the market will eventually pick up in their 30's. The current economy (United States) isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:31 PM
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they act like they are inclusive and all about equality How do they specifically act like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:29 PM
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You are paying the mechanic. If the mechanic can't do their job due to back pain than the mechanic wouldn't take on the job. The "privilege" men here insist that women have is more like below - I'm offering $2 for a mechanic to fix my car. The mechanic tells me that she will not do the job for $2. Her time and effort informing me this is wasted. Then she has 10 more men after me haggling with her to fix their cars for little money or for free. Sometimes the men become violent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:17 PM
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This topic reminds me of game theory. In an extremely simplified dating model, the pursuer's worst-case outcome is rejection and being called a creep. The selector's worst-case outcome can be violence or death. If the pursuer approaches safely and the selector is receptive, both benefit and a relationship may form. If the pursuer approaches safely and the selector is unreceptive, the pursuer gets rejected and the selector simply rejects them. The asymmetry appears when the pursuer is unsafe. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:29 PM
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You're right. Damn, men here really suck!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:17 PM
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care to tell me how i used it wrong? because i cant explain this more to you. or break it down any futher. You stated in your first response to me that women not wanting most men "prove" hypergamy. That's not hypergamy. My comment did not state anything about the minority of men that the women want to date are of higher social standing. Hypergamy requires the higher social standing part. In another response you claimed women NOT DATING a man AT ALL is basically hypergamy. Then you back track now…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:57 AM
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you skip over where i responded to that i said was just hypergamy? you gotta read. Skipped over? I responded by trying to teach you the definition because you were using it incorrectly. because the pursuers are doing massively more than the selectors Again, you can't have selectors without pursuers. If selectors are drowning in attention from countless pursuers, then pursuing clearly isn't so difficult that pursuers are in short supply. basically hypergamy Not wanting to date is not hypergamy!!!…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:21 AM
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Geez OP think dating men is as important as water now!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:51 AM
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What you are talking about still dont follow the conversation. "Hypergamy" means dating someone of higher social value than yourself. The details of who women are attracted to doesnt matter to the main topic of the post. The topic being whether selectors have privilege and the acknowledgement of it. enjoyment of the process matters immensely. But it doesn't for selectors according to your post. Why does the downsides of process matter for pursuers but not selectors? Anyone (men and women) can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:48 AM
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OP... your post is about convincing women that they have privilege for being a selector even though you know that they do not want the majority of the options. Idk why you are bringing up hypergamy or how you even got to that topic. If being a selector with a bunch of options is a privilege, why isn't being a pursuer with a bunch of opportunities to pursue just as much a privilege? If the actual enjoyment of the process don't matter than there is no difference between the selector or pursuer bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:14 AM
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LMAO Men like OP have the audacity to be unwanted by most women and try to spin it as privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:47 AM
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Weird that some just don't understand that charisma and physical abuse are two different things that can be exhibited at different time and context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:26 AM
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How does one know you are giving someone the same level of leeway or dedication as "your type" when you haven't had it? Idk how I would treat a different partner. I'm not with them or if I were, I was in a different time & place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:58 AM
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Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone else You literally set up this up to be unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:31 AM
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It would be more nuanced yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:39 AM
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Yes it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:31 AM
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You can't fake enthusiasm with past men either. Why not focus on what is verifiable truth? The present sex is lackluster and you feel undesired. When men invent convoluted stories in their minds to justify leaving their partners, it comes across like they need other men as a reference point. Like they can’t make a decision based solely on their own feelings and experiences. Maybe some men are wired that way. Competition seem to be a default mindset to some that is possibly a byproduct an evoluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:30 AM
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"Control" and "trying to control" are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:01 PM
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Trying to control someone requires intent. If a man tells his wife that he will leave in hopes to convince her not to then that's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:53 AM
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The men women complain about most are almost never unselected men. Yes because if they do get selected the women will complain about them too. Relationship failure sucks, and it’s natural to start looking back at their past actions through a more negative lens and reinterpret things that once seemed harmless. Other times the rose colored glasses come off and genuinely harmful or abusive behavior becomes easier to recognize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:00 PM
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I wish people here would stop taking things that simply exist and try to frame them as someone’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:01 PM
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When you start disliking someone it's normal to start getting bothered by small things. You can see it play out in the workplace when bosses treat people doing the same work differently. That’s hardly “regret for choosing badly.” It’s a weird attempt to dump the responsibility for a failed relationship entirely onto the woman instead of accepting the much simpler reality that two people can just be incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:29 AM
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The 80/20 rule was an off shoot of the Pareto principle and wasn't suppose to be taken literally. RP attracts alot of autistic men and combine that with today's people shorter attention span to pick up nuance, that now it's being seriously believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:00 AM
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Due to mere exposure effect, my brain will shift to the next 20%. Attraction is very contextual. I'll have increased expose to a different group of men. I'm naturally going to pick up on subtleties about them and develop an appreciation. People like to pretend attraction is this completely fixed and objective thing, but a lot of it is shaped by what your brain becomes accustomed to seeing regularly. Look up cross-race effect and the importance of understanding what is an average face within a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:00 AM
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Yes duh. No one is omniscient. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:38 PM
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FINE! I just rephrase your post. Unless her man is a COCKOLD, if a woman dress a certain way then her man should be able to approach other women. There happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:20 PM
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Women get to decide who the best men are. Not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:36 PM
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I made a post recently where I pointed out that women are judged by how they dress and present themselves You made a post that if women dress a certain way that they are allowed to be cheated on...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:34 PM
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The "spice of life" matters, but it doesn’t have to come from the relationship. A lot of people need stability somewhere in life For example, if you’re in the military where unpredictable deployments are normal, having a compatible spouse can be ideal. That contrast can be just as attractive and functional as two people constantly trying to maintain mystery or unpredictability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:18 AM
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She was full of herself, used wishful thinking to convince that there was a romantic connection without considering the other person, then paint them as cold and calculating when it didn’t work out? Agree, plenty of men do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:17 AM
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Just make snarky comments in the AutoMods.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:57 AM
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The man who orbits you completely, who sacrifices his own peace for yours, who makes your emotional state the center of his existence is not love but obsession. The hurdle isn’t convincing the specific women you’re talking about that men shouldn't have to sacrifice. It’s that a sacrifice is actually happening to begin with. I came across a story earlier today that a woman had an amazing first date. Her date stated he wanted to schedule a second date but he had to go on a vacation planned with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:52 PM
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OP being male is what keeps it from becoming a circle jerk. He’s gathering perspectives from the opposite sex about experiences and viewpoints he may not naturally pick up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:03 PM
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In theory it sounds great but people get uncomfortable when you go "off script". Especially when it comes with interpersonal relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:47 PM
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Plenty of women love being told they're not like other women....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:07 PM
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No, he did not get special treatment. Outside of religious reasons, I think it's weird to "save yourself" to do something within a marriage that you are unsure that you will be able to enjoy. From a practical point it doesn't make sense. I was myself with my exes. I was myself with my hubby when we were dating. We got married because we had long-term compatibility. If I'm trying to find someone compatible for the long term then it's best for me to be myself with all who I date. Anyone of my exes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:39 PM
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You are part of the minority who are uncomfortable with any amount of ambiguity. I suggest creating a poll next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:56 AM
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300 points to OP! This is a very unique post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:51 PM
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But they are not being vague, and those statements don’t have to be interpreted as contention. When taken at face value, none of the example statements you provided are suggesting anything negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:33 PM
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Elementary school teaches the basics, not the final form of communication. Literary works beyond picture books rely heavily on implication, context, and subtext. Human conversations are not scripted yes/no exchanges between robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:48 PM
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You're framing those responses as if they dodged the question, but they actually addressed the premise behind it. If you wanted only a yes or no answer then why did you make a post designed for discussion instead of a poll? Part of communication is choosing the forum that best fits the kind of response you're asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:37 PM
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The colored heart emojis is a unique stylistic choice...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:11 PM
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Anyone know a safe space for men to vent about their dating difficulties?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:40 PM
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True. I think OP is mixing up the casual use of the term narcissist versus the clinical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:05 AM
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Me and a friend (not anymore) once went to a new Italian restaurant. I got the ravioli and it was pretty bad. My friend said "well you did order it". Obviously anyone with a functioning brain would know that no one purposely order shitty food and would have "choose better" if had the knowledge beforehand. It's blatantly patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:19 PM
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RP sits adjacent to MRA, which aimed to bring attention to the challenges men face. That outcome was intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:06 AM
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He wasn't RP. He was effected by a different part of the manosphere at the time called PUAhate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:47 PM
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Maybe it's me but I don't witness toxic assholes having an endless supply of women willing to sleep with them. I see them constantly hitting on women and getting rejected to sus out the easy women with little boundaries. Do men within PPD not notice the women who avoid them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:59 PM
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You claimed that women don't think about the future and stability in a discussion about kids..... Birth control is used to prevent kids which requires foresight (future) and to make sure only to have kids when ready (stability).....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:33 PM
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All those women out there taking their time obtaining and getting birth control is a lie. Yes, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:58 PM
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That kids need stability? That loving someone doesn't require having kids with them? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:36 PM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:46 AM
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We already have teenagers using ChatGPT as therapists so it's already taking over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:29 AM
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Doraemon would replace my bestie in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:28 AM
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You can’t claim to prioritize love while automatically ruling out 35 year old women. Wanting to have children is a lifestyle choice. You are correct that love is an action. Many women are actually more intentional about it delaying motherhood because they’re not just thinking about their male partner, but future children too. For a lot of women, love (again action) is about building a stable, responsible environment. Depending on their financial situation, that may only be realistic later in lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:04 AM
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Them - "My way of dating is the best way! Debate me!" Me - "It may not work out for X type of people." Them - "Well those people suck!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:34 PM
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I rather eat brussel sprouts than dog shit but that doesn't mean I like brussel sprouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:35 AM
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Some men are really into showcasing their choice of restaurants or recreation. It's a way of putting their best foot forward and feel the most themselves on a date. Men with strong preferences also tend to have zero problems paying. You're probably just more flexible and desire a woman who is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:44 AM
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It's a good strategy if you know the person relatively well. As in their preferred social environment and financial situation. But if you are trying to lead by choosing the activity or restaurant, you can possibly end up causing her to pay for something that she either don't naturally enjoy or can't afford. That dynamic can shift the tone of the interaction and backfire. She may feel the need to negotiate the plan. So instead of one “yes” to the date, it requires multiple "yes"s about varies ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:27 AM
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Hear me out, bang maids are by definition a woman who helps with cooking, cleaning and some one you have sex with. This is what women have done traditionally for years. Women who traditionally did this were given marital commitment and financially supported. Bang maid are only for domestic work and sex. Nothing else. Women for long, have taken immense pride in looking after their families. That's SAHMs who again were married, financially supported and had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:13 AM
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Why not call them happy women in relationships instead of a derogatory term?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:40 PM
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Love and respect don’t create “pick mes.” They’re called that because they aren’t naturally being chosen, so they feel the need to overcompensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:16 PM
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Damn, typo. I meant unsuccessful marriage. I edited it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:38 AM
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The men who had unsuccessful marriages sure do remarry faster than their counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:03 AM
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Ok good you understand then. So why were you trying to twist it into something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:15 AM
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because men give out that same attention and validation to the next gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:25 AM
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OP may not see the value of the bird study right now but it has potential to offer insights for trans people. That’s the nature of a lot of data collection. Gathering information to identify patterns and then digging deeper into anything that stands out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:29 AM
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One case study of a celebrity couple that created or exaggerated drama to further elevate their status is proof?.... Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:31 AM
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Both, b****** are hungry!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:41 PM
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Experience different people and have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:15 PM
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The foodzone...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:45 PM
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This is so true ☝️ Dates in the beginning are fun. You're willing to dip into your savings to make some great memories but when reality hits that you need to eat only ramen for a few days it's not great anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:47 AM
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It didn't prevent me from dating but conversations about whether to share a bag of cheap potato chips caused a riff. (true example) My broke dating experience was in college. This is before OLD so finding some guy eager to take you out to dinner with a click of a button wasn't thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:17 AM
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Half of the drama in dating in my youth was due to being broke. Having money alleviates alot of things. Not having gas money to drive to see each can build resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:07 AM
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If most realistically date "down" than that means most women can realistically date "up"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:12 AM
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I get it but to treat it like it has zero impact on who you date and marry is comically silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:32 PM
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They are intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:27 PM
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Sadly in evolution, the weak genes die off. Life was created to be unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:45 PM
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This is a framing issue. If most men are willing to date a notch or two below than maybe those women are actually their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:07 PM
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☝️☝️☝️ I never seen a man within PPD state that he personally dealt with a terrible woman and that's the reason why he avoids X, Y, Z... It's almost always "studies about A, B, C states that women are 10% more likely to be terrible so I'm going to be nasty about those women who I refuse to date while also struggling to date in general." The human element is just not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:54 PM
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There's no virtue here... You really don’t believe there are people who can hear an extreme, negative generalization about a gender and take it with a grain of salt, recognizing it comes from a place of pain rather than reality? What’s the point of debating how we approach interpersonal issues if you assume people are lying? You will never be able to prove everybody react exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:02 AM
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You didn't called me out on something I actually did. I literally talked about how men are able to do the same thing in my first comment. You still didn't read?!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:29 PM
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No. The only real consequence I can think of is if the women call the police on you for existing in a public place. People have the right to be wary of anyone. Anxiety is not fun for the person going through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:37 PM
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This went straight over your head. Read the first comment I made. It's clearly not all men are trash. "sArCaSM" Geez. It's unreasonable to expect a woman who went trauma several times to keep retraumatizing herself to finally meet a "good man". You can't prove that to someone when they quit. She literally cannot date every man in the world to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:02 PM
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There is no proof that the other men they are not dating are the right men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:38 AM
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There will always be an unlimited number of unselected men. A woman can't possibly date everyone to figure out whether there are men worth dating. Becoming jaded after several traumatic relationships is normal. I am not responsible for any bad relationships men get themselves into with other women. I'm not part of the women they dated. I'm not going to make it about me when they say something negative about women due to their experiences. OP it's not about you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:41 AM
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Criticizing women’s communication skills while unable to communicate why.....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:27 PM
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10 years younger. Men tend to die younger so he is more likely to be with me in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:38 PM
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The couch is not going to cheat on me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:01 PM
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I already have a couch so why have an awkward man around me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:55 PM
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How do you know the literal location causes the lower divorce rate instead of it being a correlation? I argue culture play a more role in it and you can't replicate that due to your upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:45 PM
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Is it easier to get low value attention? Sure. It's low value because women don't want most men's attention. We are not wired to spread our seeds and give away our attention out like candy. Yes, attention and validation is easier to get. It's also fickle because men give out that same attention and validation to the next gal. The "logical" point most try to make ends up just being a projection of men’s values onto women. (1950's were great for men so it must be the same for women!) Men get frust…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:49 PM
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I have my masculine and feminine side. These traits are correlated with sex/gender, not absolutes. I disagree that physical desire is purely about physical features. It sounds like jerking off to magazines. The presence of someone, experiencing how they carry themselves, the way they tell a joke to make you laugh, getting to know them and building that sexual tension is the most pure, human erotic experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:02 AM
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Depends on how much you own your looks. Being born with it isn't something within your control. If you put effort into styling and grooming yourself than that defeats OP's point of not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:46 PM
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If you can find people similar to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:39 PM
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How much one has to do to become desirable and how one feels desirable are two different things. Being desirable by default without any actual sense of yourself in the calculation can cause one to feel like it's false. Edit: Imposter syndrome! That's the name of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:40 PM
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I know... By doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:03 PM
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I wish I could get paid to sit at home and watch TV all day instead of working. But seriously, if someone is considered desirable without effort or contribution, is that desire rooted in anything real?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:57 PM
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I'll drop ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:45 PM
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That's why my sexbot delivery and pick up service is going to make me rich. Uber sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:28 PM
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Ranking is not suppose to work at the individual level. It's to catagorize individuals into a group to see if there are any overall trend for that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:57 PM
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Fundamentally based on what? Lack of insight means I don't know what he could have done differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:53 AM
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I have the urge to report every parent comment made here. It's a debate post. There are plenty of members within PPD who believe that women should settle with any half ok man. The post is for them to disagree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:49 PM
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Agree that it is a lack of insight. I'm not there with my male friends when they are trying to make something happen or reading the messages they send. I don't reject a guy and think later "if he only just did one thing different".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:45 PM
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Neorotypicals are generally uncomfortable being socially dissected. To them it's obvious so it's easy to say "just do this" without explaining what exactly "this" is. When those unspoken rules are spelled out in detail, it feels manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:18 PM
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I know! It's like OP think women have lizard brains. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:35 PM
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Why does biologically peak matter enough for its own post? There is so much more to what effects dating success like location, social economical class, upbringing, luck, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:03 AM
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Most of the men I knew enough to be well-intended who had a hard time dating were in a relationship within a year of trying. They mostly just put themselves out there and pursued nearly any available option until something clicked. The ones who self-identified as "misunderstood" tended to fall into two extremes. They either were good at manipulating their way into a toxic chaotic relationship that last only for a month or they scared women off after a single date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:23 PM
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It's not ideal. It's an extreme version of the "top 20% get the women". The "lost boys" get pushed out of society so a few men benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:08 PM
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Those harlots!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:26 PM
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Can't hide anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:35 PM
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Brushing my hair is manipulation I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:13 PM
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OP is making a similar argument as the PPD “fast sex to prove real attraction” crowd. “Well, attractive men like me won’t date a woman who doesn’t have sex right away. Women who choose to wait are missing out on me.” They really overestimate how much space they take up in our heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:57 PM
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There are women out there who are interested in you. What are the chances that any of those women know or even care about MGTOW? If there are some and you rejected them, wouldn't most of them just move on? How would they even know you are part of the MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:52 PM
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In a practical sense, these MGTOW are theoretical. These men don't exist to the women to actually make an impact in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:46 PM
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The ball?!?!?!?! What is this Bridgerton?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:15 PM
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Sounds like OP's social media algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:40 PM
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The median age of last birth for women is around 40 in natural fertility populations. Men like to have sex with fertile women. Sperm is plentiful. They don't restrict themselves to just young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:31 AM
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Meh sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:48 PM
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You’re missing the point. Negging is manipulation. It can be dressed up to sound genuine or even empathetic so it slips by. It’s not effective manipulation if it’s not smooth enough to land that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:35 AM
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You can't come up with a neg that can actually use that as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:51 AM
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Insult? Yicks! Women are usually careful not to frame people with cancer as something inherently negative or insulting. Treating compassion as offensive is not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:42 AM
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You think the chemotherapy comment is talking shit? The man can come across genuinely trying to acknowledge how hard cancer can be. Negging doesn't have to be challenging or insulting. It's explained in the wiki page that you linked in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:22 AM
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Negging isn't about challenging a woman. See the following example. A man can come up to a woman who has a shaved hairstyle and make a comment that his cousin is going through chemotherapy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:11 AM
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Not really. Negging is to make women self conscious so she seeks validation from the man. Shit testing is women challenging a man that she is kinda interested in to test whether he has poor boundaries. If he does than she loses respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:03 AM
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Men don't have obligations to women. Men do have a choice to try to incentivize women to date them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:54 PM
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Yes, a societal condition can be caused by women but to frame it as "blame" imply that something is wrong with it. Women have two choices. They can date men or not date men. They have zero obligations to pick one or the other. If the current conditions does not incentivize them to date men then it's the men's responsibility to create that incentive. It's men that is wanting to date women more than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:45 PM
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Some people are just looking for random ways to denigrate another person. It's illogical but that's how they feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:28 PM
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Nothing is stopping men from being passive in dating. You abolish expectations and demands by not giving into them. "Equality" for the sake of equality is stupid. Women wanted to focus on their careers because it was economically beneficial for them. Men don't really see the benefit of waiting around for women to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:13 PM
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Dismantling the patriarchy always had the goal of making women's lives better. Changing cultural and social norms is always difficult because it requires taking away personal freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:01 PM
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Why not stop keeping up with traditions that doesn't work anymore and keep the ones we like? Like we've been doing all of humanity? Just because we stop farming our own food individually doesn't mean we stopped keeping dogs as pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:20 PM
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I read your previous response to my comment and understood your clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:10 PM
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OP was talking about the burden of the responsibilities of the life threatening events. Not who it was happening to. Technically I guess if I get into a car accident and it's my fault then Im responsible for it. But OP wasn't trying to say that and even admitted it was poorly written.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:49 PM
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So already men are more likely to take the burden of responsibility on the actual life threatening events. Which most women wanna take no part. What does this exactly mean? Life threatening events are typically unpredictable and happens to anyone. There are female doctors and nurses who mitigate the threatening events.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:32 PM
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Doing the right thing isn't always easy. Might as well just convince yourself that whatever "wrong" thing is not actually "wrong" at all. Probably pretty easy to do if you believe the "right" is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:29 AM
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A woman, who is morally against cold approaches, should explain why to men. If she convinces some men then cool that means those men's morals align with her. We will never be in a world where we will all be on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:31 PM
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I rather have men choose to do the right thing (whatever that looks like) despite the positive outcomes of choosing to do the wrong thing. It's easier to spread the message explaining why something is good vs trying to pinpoint the exact incentives then hunt down those who created the incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:12 PM
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really they should be angry at the capitalist system, that is oppressing them. It is capitalism and wealth inequality (and therefore the wealthy elite) that is standing in their way of dating success, not womens choices." Above is what OP stated. This is what I disagreed with. Not just the word "capitalism" by itself but the wealth inequality, whether it's oppressive, heck even the womens choices remark. Edit: IMO the United States is more corporatism than capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:59 PM
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Oppression and wealth inequality are very specific claims. It can happen within economic systems other than capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:41 PM
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There is oppressive capitalism and capitalism based on consumer choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:36 PM
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That's a good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:38 PM
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I agree it's a form of capitalism but not an oppressive type with income inequality as OP described. No one actually want less entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:36 PM
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If that is their stance than I disagree. We live in an attention economy with an abundance of entertainment. Human connection like friendships are even down because we are too busy consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:54 PM
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This macro-selection dynamic is not complex and full of nuance as you claim. This is a problem that can only be fixed by creating another problem for someone else. It's an impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:06 AM
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Women responding to it can reinforce men's pity seeking behavior. So indifference should be the way women react.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:36 AM
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The point of the “man vs. bear” discussion is to highlight that many women had to stop and think about this ridiculous scenario at all. The overdramatization isn’t a bug. It’s a feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:55 PM
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OP don't know the meaning of the word debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:34 PM
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It would be odd to borrow the established name of a phenomenon while ignoring its definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:31 PM
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Me - "You're dating a man who is 30 years older than you? The f*** is wrong with you!?!?" Them - "I paid for our meal at Olive Garden." Me - "AND HE ISN'T EVEN PAYING FOR OLIVE GARDEN!?!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:57 PM
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Leftists shouldn’t adopt a materialist view of this problem, and should instead be reactionaries? No on both. This is not a issue for the left. That is what you been talking about. And congrats you quoted me. Care to copy the entirety of it? “Because that’s not even my point.” And yet you try to question me about inconsistency even though being logical consistent was something that you don't apply to yourself. Mr "that's not even my point" They do not have to be exactly the same in this case, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:04 AM
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They don’t have to be the exact same You literally stated this earlier and now questioning me on ideological consistency? It’s inconsistent to expect a group to prioritize your concern without explaining how it fits their values, while also labeling them hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:41 AM
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It’s interesting to me how liberal and left-leaning people, people who readily invoke structural issues to explain a wide variety of political issues, suddenly become individualism-maximalists when it comes to men a dating. This is a quote from your post. This is what I was disagreeing with in my first comment. As for you logic that it doesn't have to be the same and that leftists should tackle every issue without any standard or unifying set of values have no reason behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:29 AM
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It's not a contradiction. These people wanted to be with each other but society created structures to make it difficult or outright made it illegal for them. You are talking about people who don't want to be single but unable to find someone to partner up with. It's the opposite problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:10 AM
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Left has anyways been individualism-maximalist when it came to dating. They worked toward gay people, interracial couples and single by choice to be accepted in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:37 AM
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support a nurse wife whose income potential is only 50K
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:15 AM
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Good for them! I noticed a huge boom with really pretty women a couple of years ago and I was really taken back. Turned out it was natural looking long lash extensions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:48 AM
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Please don’t make stupid, generic survivorship-bias points. You could just say you don’t date left-handed guys or guys without glasses and claim that’s the reason you never ended up in the claws of a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:21 PM
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They are exes. If he keeps on doing the same thing over and over again to not work out than why wouldn't he want to do something different with me? I'm worth keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:08 PM
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Weeks? Months? If this is how you court then stop doing it. Idk what your results are like when you don't plan ahead but this is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:16 AM
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The median age of last birth for women is around 40 in natural fertility populations. Men like to have sex with fertile women. Sperm is plentiful. They don't restrict themselves to just young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:12 AM
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The reverse isn't true. Easy to explain. It's because different standards of "good" are being used. Why do fathers worry about their daughters dating? Look at it for that angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:04 AM
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The following is just a response to the title. Why can't these men just do both? Some people just like to debate as a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:13 PM
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I started reading the "rape by deception" wiki page. It's wild. Boro went on to tell her that she could be sued for spreading the disease and that she had only two options for treatment. The first option he told her about was an extremely painful surgical procedure (which he described in graphic detail) that would cost $9,000 and require a six-week hospital stay that would not be covered by insurance. The second option, Boro said, was to have sexual intercourse with an anonymous "donor" who woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:26 PM
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There is incompatibility and then there is manipulation. Not all manipulations are bad. A mild form of it is if you need to ask someone for a favor, it's in your best interest to ask them how their day has been and built a rapport first. Within the context of dating, men and women both "breadcrumb" to precisely manage the other person’s level of interest. Just giving just enough attention to keep them engaged without committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:00 PM
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Decisions only in dating or life in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:47 PM
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I heard similar stories from men dealing with women's indecisiveness and women being open about being indecisive. I had a coworker who broke up, had her boyfriend move out and then called him 4 hours later to tell him he could come move back. Being hot and cold is just a symptom of not knowing what you want because you have little life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:04 PM
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In an ideal world, a judge would intervene and make a common sense decision in this matter. But laws are complex and jurisdictions can be all over the place. Any situation that falls outside the norm that requires to be an exception can take years to resolve with hefty legal expenses. The government will always look out for the child first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:56 PM
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It's horrible. Someone who commit statutory rape should lose parental rights over the child. Male victims should have rights to the child. But blanket laws regarding rape need be created with care to avoid incentivizing false rape accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:53 PM
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Having responsibilities is not a threat to your bodily autonomy. Forcing you to donate an organ to your child would be a threat to your bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:32 AM
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Had to get a driver's license to drive? The DMV is disrespecting your bodily autonomy!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:53 AM
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Men AND women have no choice if men's bodies CAN NOT have children. .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:45 AM
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Why would anyone have a choice of whether another body can have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:31 AM
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No, it's just being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:21 AM
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Men can't get pregnant...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:04 AM
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Exactly! So only give the women parental rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:31 AM
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Men get parental rights without having to go through the reproductive process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:23 AM
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The responsibility doesn't exist for the woman AND man with an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:10 AM
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The only logically consistent option is if a woman allows a child to develop in her body it is her responsibility. Men shouldn't have parental rights. Rights and responsibilities are inherently intertwined. You can't have one without the other. There is no other situation out there where one is given a loophole to benefit from a medical procedure that they literally can't go through while simultaneously receiving the same benefit when someone else gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:42 PM
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There is no extreme demand imbalance. This is just messaging on an app. It's low effort from both parties. Most matches and messages go no where. The conversation rate to a real date is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:59 AM
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You are projecting men's value on sex to women. Having lots of options comes with problems that men don't have first hand experience with. Refusing to acknowledge this and calling them "lucky" is a slap in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:43 AM
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Thanks! That is a book in my reading list now. It's crazy that even the men in the 99th percentile in attractiveness get about 3 messages per week which is on par with the women in the 10th percentile in attractiveness. If the top 1% don't even get much messages to begin with, I would conclude it to be irrelevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:32 PM
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What's the study the chart is referencing? I'm wondering how the study broke down attractiveness down to percentage points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:15 PM
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The commenters who want to argue with the chastisers should go argue with them. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:22 PM
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Nope. Anyone who chose to harm another person is morally wrong, this is regardless whether that other person allowed it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:10 PM
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It's not morally wrong for you to refuse to date someone...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:48 PM
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Women are not the enforcers of the moral conduct that men assign them responsibility for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:38 PM
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What about it? It has nothing to do with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:25 PM
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I'll just focus on point 1. There is a common analogy in women's spaces about vending machines. That men can't add "niceness" coins in the machine to get sex in return. Men are framed as immoral because of their expectation for sex, not their lack of access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:40 PM
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"Don't listen to _____ gender" posts are rather silly. I know too many people within the same gender who have different opinions about dating. Only a few topics have consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:24 PM
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Who gets sex isn't based on a moral scoreboard. It's about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:29 PM
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So what? Just ignore how it may have held him back from fully living his own life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:30 PM
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Maybe there was a secret camera somewhere to see if any woman would believe him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:17 AM
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I was at the casino and this guy came up to me claiming he was a vampire and I looked like his dead cousin. After a while he started fake crying about how hard it is to be a secret millionaire. He tried to get my number and I said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:51 PM
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Me - I make a statement about people A. Them - You're talking about people B. Me - I'm talking about people A. Not B. Them - Well I guess you don't like people B. People C does the same thing as people A. Me - Well I guess you're gonna make accusations without proof. Them - I'm linking things showing that people C do the same thing as people A. Me - I'm not a part of people C if that is being suggested. Them - You're shifting the goalpost! You said people C don't do the same thing as people A. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:38 PM
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Ok so whining people are people you don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:25 PM
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Yup. No comments there by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:21 PM
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Ok so keep throwing a bunch of accusations around without any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:05 PM
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The people I'm talking about are the people who whine. I'm not talking about people who make social commentary. If I say I’m referring to purple people, and you jump in insisting they’re actually red people, then you’re the one twisting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:49 PM
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because so much of the intel they get about men and relationships is from a specific place. Where? By their peers who are probably going through the same thing? playing into this notion that all or even most relationship problems are morally black-and-white. "If he wanted to, he would." "If he loves you, he'll fix it." "If he wants to be with you, he'll work to make sure he keeps you." Those examples are not morally black and white. We don't tell women that sometimes their problems are kind of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:41 PM
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Ladies, If you’re not attracted to 90-95% of men, that’s not a male problem.. thats a YOU problem Who stated it was a problem to begin with? If youre only attracted to less than 5% of the opposite sex, that’s not automatically a failure of the entire dating pool.. Until that dating pool is whining about women not finding most of them attractive. You’re free to pursue whoever you want. No one is entitled to anyone else’s attraction. Agree. Personal perspective: Some men project their frustrations…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:46 AM
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You met a couple of people heading into middle age and their lives aren't where they want to be at. It's sadly normal. Worrying about them isn't going to do much. If they are unable to enjoy a date then there is zero reason why being in a relationship will make things better for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:37 AM
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Again it's not a simple "How do I do X?" IRL it's often times "My life is falling apart, no one loves me! How can I ever meet someone! I'm worthless! etc, etc" There are social consequences to giving constructive criticism to emotionally unstable people. It is the "it's not about the nail" video. If you try to give constructive criticism to someone they are going to get mad at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:27 PM
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Asking for dating advice often comes with utter sadness or frustration with oneself. Women tend to focus on soothing one's self-esteem rather than risk kicking someone who is already down with brutal honesty. You have to read the room. Women are not going to tell someone who is fixated on being unattractive with an explanation on why they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:12 PM
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"morally obligated"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:05 PM
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Yes! I was happy with Part 1. It was great the universe expanded to the lives of the working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:22 PM
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I need to wait until the toddler is asleep tonight to get into part 2. I'm so excited!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:17 PM
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Me! Me! Me!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:47 PM
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I would like to know how much men who complain about this are making. I would think rides to work or marriage for health insurance is the real resource than some fancy dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:03 PM
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Anyone who says "treat me like a human" either doesn't have the vocabulary to properly explain or doesn't know why they are feeling how they are feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:19 PM
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It's definitely bizarre. Wish it was kinda true purely just to be a party trick. "Look guys! I'm so strong I can flip a mattress!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:05 AM
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I moved to the midwest from the east coast's upper middle class so I can see it being class coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:27 AM
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Flipping a mattress is a struggle for women to you? I didn't live your life but I find that hard to believe mainly because I literally flipped one today and the bed frame to vacuum underneath it. I was going to talk about a fridge in my response but since you originally said furniture so I didn't. It typically takes multiple people to safely move a fridge or washer/dryer. I paid professionals to do it before when I lived alone and it was always two men getting the job done. My hubby and I moved …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:19 AM
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I heard that argument before and it doesn't make sense. Moving furnitures (how big are your furnitures? Big sectional couches come in pieces.) and repairing appliances happen once in a blue moon. Also repairing appliances is kind of a lost art due to alot of stuff nowadays are designed to break. Mowing the lawn varies depending on your living situation. It only took 25 mins at my last house with a small yard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:42 AM
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Most often I hear IRL about men making bad partners mainly revolve around lack of helping with domestic duties like childrearing, cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:27 AM
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Absolutely agree! Lack of social skills can seriously hold both men and women back. Going out on random dates and meeting new people is good for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:16 AM
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OP is hardcore projecting. Okcupids study found that "2/3 of male messages go to the top 1/3 of women"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:59 AM
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If a man started doing it at age 20 then it has a great ROI. If you are starting at age 35 then no. If most of the people within your age range are married then OLD is a necessary evil to cut through the noise to find single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:01 PM
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Is his comment button broken or something to prevent him from responding? He doesn't have to respond to the Holocaust/antivaxxers/flat earthers comments if his statement was an exaggeration. He can respond to other comments that focus on other parts of his post like his interpretation of censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:25 PM
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I'm not arguing with you? It's simply ridiculous statements get ridiculous responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:01 PM
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Tell that to everybody else. Godwin's law threw up all over the comments because OP is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:56 PM
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There is a difference between covering up your own crimes and censoring someone else's harmful lies or whatever positive goal like keeping porn away from kids. The act of censorship is used for both good and bad reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:06 PM
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This is a debate sub. The whole point is to pick apart each other's arguments. People shouldn't be here to make strawman and guesses on what OP is really trying to say. I genuinely met conspiracy theorists IRL that sound exactly like OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:24 PM
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OP's claim wasn't vague. It was easily refutable. Whenever I think a BP claim is easily refutable, I just think they are just dumb or ignorant. There is a lot of conspiracy-esque interpretation of things online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:33 PM
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So there are a couple of definitions for the word arbitrary. In short it's either illogical or subjective or both. I used the term to mean that OP's interpretation of "proof" was based on a personal whim (subjective) because when presented with other examples which are clearly wrong (within the thread - other ideologies, holocaust deniers) OP dodged the question claiming that those don't count. The point of the Nazi example I used was to show that the claim that it's "proof" doesn't make sense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:07 PM
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That interpretation sounds so self servicing for RP. Why not just take the BP backlash claiming that RP is false or harmful or whatever for face value? Just respond to the criticisms that are actually being presented? It comes across like a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:09 PM
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It seems the words proof and explanation are being mixed up to mean the same thing. The goal behind the Nazi bookburning to hide the truth is an explanation of the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:08 PM
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Push back usually has more to do with how people feel about something than a careful examination of whether it’s logically true or false. How people react can be based on values, group identity, or perceived harm. Social media and news manipulation is at an all time high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:53 AM
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What makes TRP different from Holocaust deniers which face resistance and censorship? It seems arbitrary that censorship is in itself proof but doesn't work in other contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:27 AM
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It’s always a sign of bias when someone pretends ignorance about what certain political groups are trying to accomplish, especially when they could easily Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:52 PM
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I was confused as well about the title. It seems OP is answering his own question as a man about what he learned on dating apps. Apparently it's the very intimate details of women's sex lives... Which I have a hard time believing how dating apps gave him that info...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:49 AM
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What are you spelling out to women? How do you know this particular woman met her bf on OLD? How do you know whether any woman on dating apps slept with any man immediately? What have I learned? A lot of men cut and paste the same opening message they found on the internet. I literally googled them to see where they found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:42 AM
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Oh you're not the OP. My bad. Why didn't you read OP's post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:40 AM
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It directly refers to your post telling women to treat themselves like rewards...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:36 AM
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It's pretty conceited to treat yourself as a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:29 AM
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Some dude - "If you lose 10 pounds, I would totally ask you out!" Me - "Ok?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:26 AM
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My hubby is 7 years younger than me. Hard no on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:28 PM
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I should complain about hair in my food at a restaurant. I shouldn't complain about being unable to touch another person's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:18 PM
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I think you’re missing the context. The women who complain about emotional labor are often dealing with men who get upset or angry not getting reminded of their adult responsibilities. Or they deal with families for similar things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:40 PM
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There might be something wrong with me depending on how you look at it. I traveled when I was young with a loving family, I went to college, got a stable career making decent money, made life long friends, had boyfriends, got married... What else was there to do? I was getting bored with life and a child was the next step. I had my toddler and it reinvigorated me. He is my ultimate life project. I want to see how he grows under my mentorship. It's exciting and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:52 AM
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The storylines of the sequels didn't help. Fiona gave birth to his kids and he hated family life so much that he wished them away. Outside the femi talk, the real tale is that life isn't going to be perfect. Life is going to have obstacles especially if you are born into disadvantages. Edit: I just remembered that Fiona turned into a leader of a revolution when she shifted her priorities away from men. It's an interesting perspective from a feminist lens now that I think about it because that li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:32 PM
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People find this triggering? I heard it being used outside of the context of dating all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:10 PM
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I just imagined a man pretending to have severe tourettes while hitting on women to measure his true desirability. How else are you going to know whether a woman is purely physically into you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:01 PM
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Kind of a weird statement to make when the irreplaceable context was introduced to the thread with OP who is a man in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:37 PM
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Ah I found the driving value behind your philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:41 PM
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So for you, you are better to be replaceable than irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:35 PM
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Your sense of "desirable" is based on an extremely narrow definition. Men experience physical desire so easily and get hypnotized by beauty. They want women to react the same way as them even though it is less common. Even if a man doesn't initially notice a woman, it's not hard to convince that man to do so by being extremely obvious with her interest. That type of desirability isn't long lasting. It's given the same attention span as my toddler's excitement over a shiny new toy at the store. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:02 PM
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I'm seeing what you are saying now. You are coming from a place where emotional labor is a positive thing. I originally thought that being aware of it was what you meant in the post. A lot of women have a negative connotation toward emotional labor due to the current social climate we are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:09 PM
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That’s not how humans work, I’m not a robot. This is coming out of left field. What does this mean when it comes to communication or emotional labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:52 PM
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why are you still dealing with that person? Why haven’t y’all had a talk yet about emotional burdens and chores? I see a catch 22 coming. Scenario A: Don't deal with it and break up. Then be criticized for not communicating about it. Scenario B: Dealing with it and trying to communicate. Then be criticized for dealing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:47 PM
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Good OG RP post. It's true that many people jump to the conclusion that others are trying to "control" them" when any criticisms are voiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:33 AM
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Same as the last time. It felt like a broken record, so I didn’t read further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:45 PM
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There was a small survey about how men differ in what they value in their daughters compare to their wives. Different context brings different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:42 PM
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RP men - "Status"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:13 PM
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And before you scream "gOoMbA fAlLacY" and use that term wrongly. Still can’t stop making weird accusations. What must it be like to go through life unable to learn, reflect, or improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:42 AM
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Looks to a certain extent is easy to measure along with money. Status is nebulous and contextual. When a man is seen with a beautiful woman despite not being good looking or wealthy, other men tend to fill in the gaps with positive assumptions like he must be charismatic or have a big dick. Lots of time women give the men status by choosing them instead of them having it already. It's not deductive reasoning if men are working backwards to justify the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:31 AM
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If attraction wasn't a thing, I would just look for a rich guy who would make a good dad. Attraction is the foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:44 AM
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Your post didn't state anything about being exclusive. Is this man calling me his girlfriend while having sex with another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:46 AM
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Again whether I accept this or not will depend on what stage I'm at with my feelings about him and what I eventually want from him commitment wise. Your post is suggesting there’s something inherently wrong with dating while also having a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:35 AM
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Then what is happening? Besides the delayed sex? Your scenario doesn't explain how I feel about this man for me to answer how I would react.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:25 AM
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I think it's unhealthy to sleep with multiple different people at the same time. Nothing is wrong with a FWB arrangement when one is single and exploring what is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:51 AM
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OP is expecting women to do all the emotional labor for men because the women do it for other women. The parallel solution is to have men emotionally support other men. Other men have gone through similar experiences in dating and are more well equipped in giving advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:41 PM
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a man posts how he is frustrated with dating being non-existent or casual sex being non-existent. A woman declaring how she doesn't find 99.99% of men attractive These are two different situations. Why would anyone react the same to both of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:47 AM
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I made a post about a woman crying about how she hasn't found any attractive men despite rejecting nearly 200 men through a series of dating events. Many women came out and said that's not possible that women didn't call her out but instead supported her. OP made 2 posts about it. Both times I requested a link to the discussion and I got no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:40 AM
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Sure you get attacked...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:32 AM
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If it was science, it would have been built by academics and behavioral scientists, not internet pundits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:39 PM
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RP wasn’t developed with a scientific framework. It was developed as a worldview about how women function and that society conceals this reality. It may reference studies to try to support it after the fact. A good example is using studies that women statistically initiate divorce more than men is often presented as proof that women are incapable of being loyal. This conclusion is based on the preexisting worldview and not an actual definitive cause and effect. Trying to assign fault for the bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:15 PM
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Soft science is innately difficult to prove. RP and BP framework aren't even grounded in science to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:22 PM
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Knowing her when she dated her ex and how their relationship was like so you have a frame of reference to compare it to yours. How else are you going to be able to do it? Because most of the time, you are not going to know who her ex is and the intimate details of their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:33 AM
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So frame...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:53 AM
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Yeah that's a thing I don't get about the law. The woman can kill the fetus but no one else can? It's inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:29 PM
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Consent to parenthood is not a thing. Prochoicers who use this wording are incorrect. Women deciding against abortion doesn't mean they become a parent. Miscarriages are common occurrences. Until the birth of the child, it legally does not exist for one to have parental rights over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:13 AM
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but their dating pool only consists of men who are on the right side of normal distribution in terms of height, money, looks etc. How do you find this info? Idk anything about the dating pools of the faceless random people online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:14 AM
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Person A writes a comment - If A+B then it works. Person B writes a response - It doesn't work because A+C. Person A writes a response back - I'm talking about A+B. Person B writes another response - yOU cReATeD A STraWMaN!!!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:26 PM
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I had to read it 3 times in order to figure out what OP is trying to get at. My interpretation is that men are selfish and go for what they want. They chase women and don't care about women's feelings. So women should act the same and chase men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:53 PM
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True. I literally just copy and paste their writing back at them whenever they pull that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:25 PM
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This is a debate sub. Not an advice one. Personal advice topics are banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:48 PM
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The word viral lost its meaning. Idk what people are watching nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:39 AM
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Women who aren’t romantically interested but casually label men as “husband material” or “nice guys” are trying to make boring but harmless men feel better for being unattractive. When women who are romantically involved says it, there should be no confusion her attraction is already established. If a man is unsure of her desire even within the relationship, hearing “husband material” isn’t reassuring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:45 PM
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I don’t understand why some women think this is a compliment. Easy, it's projection. Being called wife material is a compliment hence women use the same logic on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:51 PM
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A small portion of RPers can be MGTOW who abstain from sex. There are also the topics about divorce and family court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:05 AM
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It's raining cats and dogs... I didn't know the sky produced animals now!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:29 AM
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Calling something baggage is a figure of speech. It's not dehumanizing. Kids are serious and you need to be prepared if you are going to introduce yourself into their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:56 AM
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Another thing is to be okay with being rejected and don't stop pursuit. Read the thread from the very beginning. You don't seem to be following the conversation...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:44 AM
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It's a fantasy to be treated like you're irresistible. There is no long term thinking beyond that moment of validation with a person who disregards others boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:06 AM
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Sadly there are women who are into that and encouraging that behavior put others in terrible situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:57 PM
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Where do you draw the line where she's waiting to get to know him better vs putting out eventually out only to complete some "relationship tick box" or giving him good boy points after spoiling her and taking her out to multiple places. You don't know her internal motivation and there can be different reasons why she would wait or not. She could have had bad experiences for putting out too soon. I found out a man I had sex with was a racist literally a week after I slept with him. I was pretty d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:30 AM
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So what is Survivorship bias? Well that came out of no where.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:13 PM
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OP hasn't watched Sex and the City...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:45 PM
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I am aware that you are operating with the assumption that they have different reasoning. My comment is about MY comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:48 PM
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Note my initial comment. The female and the male critic came to the same conclusion with the same reasoning. It can't be biased based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:58 AM
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Valuing someone with similar experiences is subjective. It's asinine to completely invalidate someone with a different POV to suggest that they shouldn't be in the conversation. Good observation has merit. Sometimes people value it more because it can be less biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:36 AM
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I googled it for you. A double standard is holding someone to a standard that you don’t hold others (including yourself) to. This is what you stated. You can hold someone to a standard, hold that SAME standard for yourself and hold others to a different standard. Since you highlighted (including yourself) in the description, it comes across like you don't know the difference between double standards and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:16 AM
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Here is a link to Quora
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:38 AM
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You know it is possible that a man and a woman can call someone lazy with the exact same observation and reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:21 AM
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Calling someone lazy while you are lazy isn't a double standard. Treating an identical observation with the same reasoning as invalid from one person yet valid from another is a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:16 AM
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Yes, it is considered socially "distasteful". The appeal to hypocrisy fallacy is a common default for many people to avoid introspection. It's a way to continue holding bias against people with merit in their viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:52 AM
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Replace women with another man calling them lazy. If the accusation is valid then whether the accuser is a woman or man doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:22 AM
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There are research out there that supports the contextual side of attraction. Race is a good example. When someone is not exposed to faces of another race, those faces will look all the same to them. When they are able to see the differences within those faces through repeat exposure, they will start distinguishing different attractive features within the faces. Some PDD men desire women who experience initial raw attraction for them. They don't have the tools to distinguish between the women se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:08 PM
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Who gives women this inherent value? Men can only give value if they have value themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:12 AM
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Take my phone. I'm not getting stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:32 AM
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A 35 year old making 150K is likely going to tie most of that money up to mortgage and retirement. A 25 year old is going to be financially irresponsible with it by spending more on vacations and designer goods for young women to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:16 PM
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I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:04 AM
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I'll repeat what I stated in the linked post about the OOP. Without you linking the post, it's hard to gauge
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:22 PM
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Join a hobby to expand your point of view. You don't have to initially like it. Doing stuff that you are not naturally inclined to do is good for the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:43 PM
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The argument protects itself from being wrong by insisting that any woman who hasn’t traded up just hasn’t had the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:24 PM
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That Instagram model doesn't disappear once her time in the sun with a male celebrity is over. She will date other men and eventually marry. Those men she dated will eventually marry as well. This process will trickle down to average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:24 AM
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Is her disgust somehow reflective of me as a person instead of her own prejudices? Maybe there is something to both you and them. Your two main examples are trying to get together with young women. Young people aren't mature and you keep going after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:00 PM
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Like most other regrets, only if they don't like where they are at later in life. The grass is always greener on the other side when yours is dead. I know a divorced 40 year old who married at 17 and her cheating husband left her after 15 years. She is pretty pissed that she was essentially locked up most of her youth. She was a SAHM with no car because husband instilled fear in her that she was going to die if she tried to learn how to drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:44 PM
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Rollo Tomassi’s early writings were posted on the SoSuave forums, which had a section for married men. PUA was developed through trial & error experiences with dating women, often included by men who were already in relationships or marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:49 AM
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Women need others to hold them to high esteem. It's a side effect of having inner self criticism. I always been shocked how men can outwardly be so confident about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:42 AM
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Sure some of them did, but they've never been the majority. They were the majority in the beginning. The OG RP was about "waking up" to the claims about female nature. It was typically after a divorce when they try to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:30 AM
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Because a supportive space to vent is a terrible thing. We can't have that!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:50 AM
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Yes, this is about female solipsism. How dare she talk about the lack of attraction she has for men in a post about her lack of attention for men! The nerve!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:02 PM
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Sounds like the subreddit was a place to vent. Without you linking the post, it's hard to gauge why the question was downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:21 PM
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That video is rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:29 AM
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be normal about engaging in intimacy Unless you disagree with her "normal" of course and then accuse her of being stuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:21 AM
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​>it often signifies that you view sex as a transactional reward or something you "give up" in exchange for security. No. OLD is filled with men looking only for sex and it needs to be specified in the profile that it's not happening. It's simple. Women don't care about whatever subtext men twist it into.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:11 AM
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Gather data whether the man, woman or both became disengaged with the marriage first and who initiated the divorce paperwork. Prediction: Women initiate divorces more because men are willing to stay married and just do their own thing. Bonus data: Among men who experienced financial losses, were those losses disproportionate compared to women’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:46 AM
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woman settles for a partner who isn’t as preferably desirable in the visceral sense as her casual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:22 PM
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desirable in the visceral sense Casual relationships happen long after people meet. Plenty of men can charm women into flings without being the pinnacle of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:19 PM
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If men actually hated women having sex then they wouldn't hate 1-2 casual flings more than 1-2 committed relationship. An N count of 2 is low. Most men care about the low number more than the context. A woman thinking at the back of her mind that he's a safe option but not hot enough to have flings. I know plenty of women who had flings with men that they were hoping to turn into relationships... He realises the attraction wasn't towards him but things other that he provides. Why isn't he the wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:19 PM
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Women in college will do all sorts of crazy shit. I know what's porn brained...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:59 PM
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That has nothing to do with slavery...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:16 PM
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slave Way to take agency away from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:57 PM
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I disagree that it's a negative thing to not want to date someone to be considered bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:47 PM
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I was so confused by OP's title. Since women do most of the housework, you would think they contribute more to the household expenses (buying groceries, furniture, buying the kids toys, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:29 PM
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If you have to tell someone to be kind just to get dates, it’s probably a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:28 PM
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I thought the same a year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:51 PM
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My father is 6 foot from a country where that was the average. Because he was average, he didn't have any dating advantages. If people breed for height, the ideal height standard will push up. It's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:36 PM
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A healthy person will have time and energy to focus on friends, family, work and hobbies. They will not neglect them simply because they are dating someone casually. Once they enter into a relationship, it is expected to divide their time and energy to nurture the new relationship. What that divide looks like and whether it's healthy depends on the individuals. I don't think it's gendered. Some people expect their new SOs to cut off friendships with the opposite sex or start dressing differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:27 AM
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I would love to stay at home, cuddle on the couch and watch TV with a SO. Would I want to do the same thing on a date with a man I barely know? Heck no. It's not complicated. These different stages of relationships are intentional. You are unable to get the whole picture of someone all at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:16 AM
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Why? The world is rapidly changing fast and the dating ecosystem is the part of that change. There have been arguments within PPD that the world has become too open for people in regards to dating. If women are overwhelmed with choices, why would they become open to more?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:59 PM
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It has happened. Women today are more willing to date men of different ethnic background, education level, and religion compared to 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:08 PM
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I did a search on it in PPD comments and sorted it by new. It was mentioned for the first time a year ago and only started to gain traction 6 months ago. Makes sense why we never came across it til now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:37 AM
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I looked at the wiki page on it. I didn't know that common cause for misconceptions of communities had a name. It initially sounded so goofy that I thought OP found it in some random corner of TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:50 AM
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Typically OPs would explain common arguments and make counterpoints. It doesn't make saying phrases similar to "I know what you are thinking", "I bet that makes you mad", "Your lizard brain is automatically coming to this conclusion" any less weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:06 AM
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And before you say goOmBa fAlLaCy (without even understanding that term). I stopped reading right here. I don't know what this fallacy is but accusing the readers will ignorantly engage using whatever this concept is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:51 AM
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Most of your relationship is going to be spending time one on one with each other. A person with a hobby you dislike might have a great social circle. They can also have a social circle that you don't click with. Women had enough bad experiences with men who game. They shouldn't be disparaging but they don't need to be open to dating either. Sometimes there are too many doors open. You have to close some in order to walk through others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:28 PM
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There are 8 billion people in the world. Who is plan A? You don't know every single person at one time. Let's say the first woman a man asks out rejects him. Is he obsessed with her that he has her in the back of his mind if he meets some other woman that knocks the socks off of him and likes him back? Only men with a mental illness would think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:34 PM
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Gifts, favors, rides, Yes this will not generate attraction. clever comebacks, jokes, being funny If you are in the gray area in physical attractiveness (5.5 or 6 with 5 being the average) making someone enjoy their time with you will be a game changer. If you are a 3 it's not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:09 PM
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It looks like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:51 PM
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When a man poses with a woman, I always interrupt as a hint for non-monogamous open relations. being poured wine like he’s cleopatra If I was into visiting wineries it would be a good sign for a potential match.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:13 PM
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Nothing in your post describes what a profile curated for the male gaze looks like. Also it's not surprising that someone would create a profile that they show off what they find personally attractive about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:32 PM
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Valuing your baby mama ensure the survival of your kids. The initial romantic dopamine rush of being together with a woman is designed to help last through the initial years of childrearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:28 PM
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Its insane being this gaslight by women here telling me I'm a wrinkly old creep (ironically these same women deny the wall happening at 30 for themselves) in denial, but the only women who have a liking for my type on me are the younger ones. I highly doubt anyone here is personally going after you. Have you received DMs or can you link the comments that were specifically towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:00 PM
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they need someone who automatically enjoys the activity with others as well and isn’t selective. I give credit for this. It's an original take for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:45 AM
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You are aware of what they are talking about when they say muscular. The word is used sufficiently to communicate their preferences. How is it lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:56 PM
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finding someone who already figured out the tools to go through difficult stuff. This 💯💯💯 Only men who lack experience and/or reduce women to objects for decoration instead of recognizing them as full people with their own lives, emotions, and aspirations would think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:09 PM
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By the title? Yes. It's an attempt to the fallacy called "appeal to worse problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:29 PM
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Anybody who makes very broad statements about another demographic and dismisses the experiences of them for sociopolitical gain is always going to be challenging to converse with. No level headed person participates in oppression olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:07 PM
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indicates a certain lack of resilience in the face of life's obstacles that might be worth reflecting on. Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:44 AM
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Before the existence of the child and even the ability to verify that the child is biologically his?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:00 PM
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Men can't walk away from obligations that do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:30 PM
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Abortion prevents the existence of children to not have the obligation in the first place. Adoptions and safe havens are available for men as well. It's a transfer of responsibility. Not abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:45 PM
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I agree. Rights and responsibilities are inherently interconnected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:44 PM
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OP: "Women make posts about age gap relationships all the time!" PPD reality: Men won’t stop posting about it, projecting their wants onto women to feel desirable at an old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:59 PM
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I wouldn’t know where to begin in determining an appropriate punishment. If someone admits guilt and seeks accountability, that decision should be left to a judge with far more expertise than I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:20 AM
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No. I'm not even sure about criminalizing stealthing to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:08 AM
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I agree with you that if something is difficult to prove doesn't mean it should be legal. I disagree with using rape and reproductive coercion interchangeably as the foundation for your argument. Rape is a physical act. Stealthing changes the nature of the physical act deliberately by one party without the consent of the other party. However, birth control changes to the hormone in one's body. It does not change the physical act itself to be considered rape. It influences whether someone chooses…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:19 AM
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As others stated, it's hard to prove even if they are illegal acts. The main difference is STD exposure. Stealthing deliberately subjects someone to that risk without any good faith effort to prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:28 AM
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“Hey I notice you’re taking me out to really nice places but you live at home. Can you explain your situation for me?” What is the suspicion that is implied in this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:45 AM
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I never witnessed any women on PPD call her SO high value. I remember one woman on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:48 AM
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There are no useful analogies for financial abortions due to so many unique variables. The car accident happens after the existence of the victim and the pit pushing doesn't illustrate the body autonomy of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:25 AM
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If you think debates are akin to trying to control people, why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:42 AM
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It's like these men can't wrap their heads around that women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:14 PM
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hoping the guys send the 1st text in the morning. They will refuse to send a text until he texts first. It's one huge shit-test. So a man has to send a text message after boning her? How is this a shit test? He is boning her!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:42 AM
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I agree with that. The numbers won't make sense if men weren't double dipping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:06 AM
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Alot of this is common sense but I have met adult men who go on one date and try to label it as a relationship. It's simple information for men who don't understand the simple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:49 AM
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Soft science will always have their disadvantages. You can measure correlations in things and different people will disagree on what causes them. It's also easy to disregard any studies that doesn't align with your beliefs. There's a lot of people that believe that academia has a liberal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:32 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:51 PM
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9 times out of 10 they never link the reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:13 PM
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TLDR
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:49 AM
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I understand that this is meant to be abstract but it's too much to the point where it doesn’t actually help me understand how men are being forced into isolation. Maybe I'm not the target audience for the discussion and maybe OP you are looking for someone who is in a similar position to remind yourself that you are not the only one going through it. Find people to talk about it or focus on a hobby with a good community and keep searching for human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:56 PM
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Number of times I witnessed men in PPD insisted that age-gap criticism infantilizes women: 791 Number of times I witnessed women in PPD said the same thing: 1
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:43 AM
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Thank goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:37 AM
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so instead of saying women dont make the "absoluto no" they say it is if a man is attractive and tall. What? youd turn and gaslight some more, and say "hey! you might have saw move abusive things!, but theres no evidence" to defend abusive attractive men even in debate where the context is the attractive man is the abuser....wow. I'm confused on what you are trying communicate because your writing seems erratic. This is a debate and I can disagree with the context of it. It's the point of a deba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:23 AM
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The line is called illusory superiority. People think they are better that sensing things and overly confident about it. Some woman get the ick, start feeling that means there is something intrinsically wrong with the man even though there is no empirical evidence of this. Some man perceive a pattern of physically attractive men treating women worse than other men even though there is no empirical evidence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:59 AM
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You went from “they are claiming that they sometimes sense when someone is off” to “they think they can detect all toxicity” and “if they could, abusive relationships wouldn’t exist.” Being perceptive isn’t the same as being omniscient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:31 AM
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Weird to assume someone who you don't know is husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:11 AM
4

"Husband material" aren't usually portrayed as wanting to f around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:45 AM
1

Women may need to prepare while men still commit more crime...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:44 AM
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This list seem to be a list of your pet peeves than an actual analysis of PPD. One of the things is just plain wrong. Plenty of men on PPD believe attractive means better. I read many men insisting on female commenters that they must be ugly and don't deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:45 PM
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PPD doesn't allow you to post debate and questions toward your own sex. It leads to a lot of circle jerks. That's why you don't see people criticizing each other like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:30 PM
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Most millennials are in their 30's right now and been dealing with OLD for the last 10 years. They are def not out of touch like OP is claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:19 PM
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Or… they could try choosing better men from the start. That's what it means. What did you think it meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:43 PM
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Do lesbian couples cite the same reasonings for divorce as heterosexual couples? Ultimately this is why the shift to marrying later in life and prioritizing lifestyle compatibilities need to continue to be pushed on women. They need to stop trying to change men into better men and stop cleaning up after them if it's unsustainable especially adding kids into the mix. Mutual benefit should be a byproduct and not the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:38 PM
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Isn't generalisation fallacy the same with the alpha males? If a guy is acting like he is above you than probably not a good idea to date him. Maybe dating instability is the default in general because most people aren't compatible to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:41 AM
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Has anyone noticed that on OLD every single 'alternative' male archetype - be it skinny, tortured artistic souls to soft goofy male feminizts will usually struggle to get matches. How would anyone would just casually notice this? You are not on other people's profile accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:13 AM
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I explained it in another comment You focused on the ring cam detail in your post like it was some sort of new revelation that TwoX members were unaware of. Idk why someone who have read TwoX posts about this girl would miss that detail in those discussions unless they didn't read the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:38 PM
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I believe you are right about that portion of it. Didn't disagree with that. I guess I could take this comment as further evidence that you are unable to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:20 PM
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Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record. OP would know that TwoX already discussed about ring cam claim if OP actually took the time to read. If OP's post was only about them staying silent about recent charges that would be a valid critique of the sub. But instead, OP zeroed in on the ring cam detail and said “turns o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:41 PM
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Good! Maybe OP can read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:30 PM
2

Classic moving the goalpost. Ironic how you literally jump to a conclusion about the sub without reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:29 PM
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Your post claim that there was radio silence about it and that's untrue. The TwoX community have the same access to "evidence" as you and simply came to a different conclusion. If you disagree with the conclusion that's fine but your post claim that they are blindly believing the initial accusation made by DoorDash girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:13 PM
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Have you read the discussions that are already on TwoX? I'll wait....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:47 PM
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if I were to get you flowers it would be a nice gesture but it wouldn't really show I care about you. What shows to women that men care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:29 AM
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I agree that therapy speak is on the rise. People are misusing various terminologies a lot. This example wasn't a good choice to illustrate this because the men you described are exactly the kind who would make a partner feel responsible for providing emotional labor. Of course those partners are just as responsible to leave the relationship as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:34 AM
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I was reading the first half thinking "Yeah, some men don't have boundaries and find themselves unable to leave a relationship with shitty women." But then you dropped “emotional labor” into the mix, and now it reads like the men you’re describing are so desperate for someone to fix their loneliness and maintain a clean household that the women end up stressed out instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:12 AM
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referring to men who simply state that they don't factor it in when it comes to their dating choices. Neither negative nor positive, just a neutral aspect. It's often met with fallacious responses Call me skeptical, I doubt this has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:32 PM
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In a TikTik video posted last week, she shared, “I made the grave mistake of marrying a professional, international criminal con artist. And I wanted to share with you guys the lessons I have learned." Seems like she did. Idk why accountability is needed to be this specific to be considered accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:11 PM
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Being conned financially is pretty difficult when you are young. You typically don't have enough money at that age. We should give grace so people can be comfortable to openly speak about it to educate others on the pitfalls of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:40 PM
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However, when women become single mothers as a lifestyle choice, whether by using a sperm donor whom they have already preemptively decided will not be involved in her child's life, or by keeping the father in the dark about her pregnancy and not naming a father on the birth certificate, feminist opposition is nowhere to be found, despite the fact that the impact on the resulting child is exactly the same. Agree. This is why the best interest of the child argument falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:22 PM
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I had to stop reading TwoX after like a week. It was too depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:08 PM
2

Most echo chambers develops victimhood complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:49 PM
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Those aren't even my ideas.... Again strawman....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:44 PM
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Your strawman is going off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:24 PM
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Thanks for all the evidence of male solipsism!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:18 PM
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They risked all the bad things, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:05 PM
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It's a foreign concept for women too. Men couldn't "push" things forward with me if I didn't want it. I have agency. I still had to go to social gatherings and start random conversations. I took chances on randomly meeting men on OLD. This idea that men are the only actors in interpersonal relationships comes across as solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:50 AM
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They treat “not declaring intentions upfront” as deception**.** It's always amazing how people can engage in a community and get wildly different interpretations. It's like OP took people's messages and cranked it to 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:49 PM
2

I like the formatting. Easier to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:43 PM
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It's actually men over valuing sex. They are selling their integrity to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:23 AM
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Men are dishonest about their intentions when a potential STR is on the line. A woman having a different standard for a different man way above her league doesn't change that. Men will be dishonest with women who only look for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:07 AM
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Now this is gonna be a VERY controversial post. My thumbs are ready for debate battle! Let's see what this is about. The overwhelming majority of the time when women say that they want you to be honest they are usually trying to get you to tell on yourself so they can swiftly reject you. Yes and? So most men are not gonna be forthcoming about their intentions to have nsa sex because in practice it almost NEVER works. OP seriously believe that women desire to help men find NSA sex? 😂😂😂 This is oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:21 PM
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Sucks that I have to scroll down so much to find the commenters who actually understands what love bombing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:20 AM
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It's the opposite. During the idealization stage, love bombers are hyperfocused on their partners and very genuine with the intensity of their affections. This genuineness pulls women in thinking it's the real deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:13 AM
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Love bombing is a specific set of actions. The motivation to love bomb is the same for both 'bad boys' and 'ugly guys'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:05 AM
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Your first sentence sounds like you don't believe love bombing is a well documented phenomenon. But your second sentence starts explaining that love bombers don't pump and dump (which I agree with).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:57 AM
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Agree. Love bombers are very sincere in the idealization stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:53 AM
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Because it is normalized by men. Men stick around reinforcing that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:12 PM
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Supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:10 PM
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When a woman stays in a terrible relationship for sex and companionship, other women tell her to leave. Men should leave terrible relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:07 PM
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Hidden assumptions with biases Hidden? The assumptions and biases are clear as day 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:30 AM
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Are these people that you're talking about actual specific individuals where you seen an drastic change in their behavior in PPD? It would take a lot of time to keep track of every comment that the regular PPDers are making. It’s more likely that you’re seeing the same debates cycle over and over, and the repetition is starting to overload you. This is making you feel that it's getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:23 AM
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Desperation isn't aspirational. That's a 🔥🔥🔥🔥 quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:07 AM
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Virtue signaling is the perfect description of OP. He treats vague lines like "I just love her" and "I'm drawn to her" as if they're meaningful, but they're nothing more than vibes. They only work in movies trying to emotionally manipulate the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 11:28 AM
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That is what ThatBitchA was talking about. You were responding to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:37 PM
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Of course it's invalid for them to believe that women don't have the right to reject their advances. No one have to participate in modern dating if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:22 PM
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Maybe there are different women with different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:47 AM
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Rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:21 PM
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Sounds like the dunning kruger effect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:10 AM
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I can say the same thing about your poorly written run on sentence that I originally commented on. Good luck with your pettiness. 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:56 PM
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Comparing feminists to “middle school hallway monitors” implies they’re overreacting. I could see what you're trying to say now but the way you started it with explaining women's attitude about "fck about until the end" can cause confusion with your readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:45 PM
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The sentence contradicts itself. (Women don't care than care?) It's a vague analogy than an actual explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:13 PM
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Women have grown tired of us guys and it really shows we have a habit of trying to ignore the unavoidable, meaning we take advantage of women and often use them for convenience when it suits us and we’re surprised when feminists go after us like middle school hallway monitors. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 02:47 PM
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Like guys who listen to podcasts or online content telling them or teaching them how to be a charismatic confident alpha male misogynist, that’s misogynist? Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:43 PM
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Number of times I witnessed men in PPD insisted that age-gap criticism infantilizes women: 767 Number of times I witnessed women in PPD said the same thing: 1
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:14 PM
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I can't review OP's previous comments to find out the context of their claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:00 PM
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Lol. That's a good comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:16 AM
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be honest OP thinks women here lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:54 AM
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woman's revenge fantasy I got second hand embarrassment from reading this. No, it has nothing to do with women's experiences with these types of men. It's absolutely jealousy! They totally want you! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:44 PM
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This is an economic argument, not a political one. Are you new to economics? I have a bachelors in it. Your economic argument angle is purely based a simplifed model that does not take in any variables of how welfare actually works IRL. No clue how this is relevant. To illustrate your lock example lacks relevant variables and details to make it a valid example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:38 AM
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It's an exaggeration sure. It doesn't need to happen often though. You are debating on dismantling a whole government program because there might be some bad actors. Are you new to politics? But the possibility is enough for me to leave it locked, even if it's a rare event. No one is gathering money from your neighbors to pay for your lock. This statement directly contradicts itself. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:16 AM
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What would stop a woman from having 6 children, all with deadbeat men, and getting the state to pay for them? How often does this happen? It's a cartoonist representation that is often a joke. Incentives aren't incentives when it doesn't actually incentivize people into doing it. Do you have any large sample data?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:04 AM
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women sleeping with deadbeats knowing they can get the state to pay for everything though. This point is a widely debated topic between the U.S. left and right. Welfare is hard to access so people don't abuse it. You have to prove eligibility with documentation, income verification, and repeated reviews. Small mistakes like missing pay stubs and incorrect dates can cause applications to be denied. You also have to not make enough money to access these programs. Just because someone is a single m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:48 AM
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Equal rights and social welfare aren’t opposing ideas. Many people often don’t mind contributing through taxes, knowing that the system they support today could protect them tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:12 AM
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Side note: A statistically insignificant small but interesting study showed that men were more likely to approach a tattooed woman than a non-tattooed woman. Tattooed women can simply have more opportunities. Tattoos provide a pretty easy ice breaker for conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:10 AM
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No, he didn't. That kind of thinking that turns accountability into oppression Nothing about her statement is about oppression. He is assuming that she did based on his own misuse of terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:43 PM
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Being treated like a child = OPPRESSION!!!!!! I agree. It is ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:21 PM
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Today's episode on r/menwritingwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:59 AM
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Men like diversity. Type is rarely a stagnant thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:47 PM
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Yes and older men have life experience as an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:35 PM
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True. Women with poor boundaries are just good targets for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:54 PM
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It seems like you read about the two biggest complaints about dating older men and then falsely misinterpreted the women as implying a cause & effect relationship between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:47 PM
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OP☝️☝️☝️☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:36 PM
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"Omg I dated an older man who turned out to not have big boy goals in life"* that's not abuse, you weren't "groomed", Yes. That's not abuse or grooming. Great strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:33 PM
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You respond to a comment about how algorithms trap you to see a certain content with.... more of that content? Maybe it's not the algorithm...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:13 PM
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Because your statements are oozing with context /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:15 AM
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People go silent when proven false about most things
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:41 AM
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Plenty of men had terrible crazy exes and still continue to date afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:44 PM
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Love: Surprise flowers! Hate: Some men have a tendency of checking out of relationships that they no longer want to be in hoping that the women will break up with them. It preserves their image of being "good".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:49 PM
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The best chance to snag a quality man is to surround yourself with them. What jobs do they have? What bars do they go to? What are their interests? You can open OLD, get flooded with messages and try filtering for these men but they will always try to get together with someone who is available in their immediate surroundings first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:13 AM
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A man who is 6 foot tall should not expect a woman who is 5'4 to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:02 PM
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Doesn't look like that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:51 PM
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Good old appeal to equality fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:56 AM
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There may be evolutionary roots to why men often prefer more rigid categories to make sense of things. They probably benefited from being able to quickly assess women’s behavior and intentions when reproductive success was tied to limited time and opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:54 PM
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☝️☝️☝️ I met some naturally shy women who were very into casual sex when men built a superficial rapport with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:54 PM
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I haven't witnessed any struggling men here claim that they would be good fathers or husbands. Most of them are fixated on their mental health and life milestones they haven’t met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:04 PM
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I'm curious what makes you identify as a red-piller. Because this is a very based neutral take. "Sexual strategy is amoral" used to be a popular saying within TRP. It means to not analyze what is going on around you and frame it as "good" or "bad". Just take it in for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:06 PM
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Nothing the TRPer I responded to said that women are wonderful and men are at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:05 PM
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☝️ This is some OG RP. Focus on facts and navigate the world with them as best you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:06 AM
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Bob wants a formula to evaluate women. But formulas will always fall short because there are endless ways for human connection to go wrong. If Bob lacks experience, then he should date to gain experience. Learning from others is great, but no amount of secondhand knowledge can replace firsthand lessons in communication and vulnerability. All great things come with risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:13 PM
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So basically, women are terrible at relationships and men are terrible at staying away from them. Equilibrium achieved!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:08 AM
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Some women's partners notice their verbal communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:46 AM
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Most men have their equivalent somewhere. I knew a man who was unfortunate in the face, body, intellect and financially irresponsible on top of that. Took him a long time to meet a woman who was his equal. They are happiesh together because one of their relatives took pity on them by giving them a house to live in after their house was foreclosed and were evicted a couple times afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:23 PM
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If it was elaborate lie like his last girlfriend cheated on him or died then I'll be upset. If it was a simple "Yeah I dated before" and didn't mention it again then I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:51 PM
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It's kind of harder to catch him in the lie in this situation. It's easier to prove that something happened vs something that didn't happen. Good thing he fessed up and wanted to clear the air. I wouldn't be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:27 PM
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You seem a bit too invested in your roommate and her partners. I don’t remember a single substantial trait of my previous roommates partners other than what some of them looked like. How can you judge how relationships work if you don't pay attention to the people around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:20 PM
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Was the 60% of the household expense part of a million dollar mansion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:26 PM
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He was saying that you were spreading misinformation geez
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:48 PM
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How do you debate with men who don't value companionship with women or believe women are incapable of providing it? Then they project their view on ALL men as if it's the objective truth when there are clear evidence all around them that it's false.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:57 AM
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I agree with this. You have to lean into whatever you are naturally good at to stand out in the dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:27 PM
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Even if it means less it doesn't make sense to consider it as an insult. The only way it can be an insult if one views relationships with women to be parasitic. It's weird that non-promiscuity some how resolves that viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:58 AM
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I'm only interacting in the AutoMod. Kinda weird that you are normalizing stalker behavior loling me not doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:45 AM
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Lol no they didn't. I agree with your second point in a different context. There’s a big difference between a woman who genuinely wants to date you calling you husband material and one who doesn’t, just tossing out empty platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:34 AM
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There are so many caveats for their logic for it to possibly be an insult. The woman giving out the husband compliment must A) Participate in hookups. B) Be slower in becoming sexual active with men who are husband material to manipulate toward a relationship. Not all women have hookups. Not all women purposely delay sex with men they are attracted to. On top of that, the transactional lens they apply to relationships only makes things worse. In their view, men can only get sex by trading “resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:18 AM
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In a world with accessable birth control. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:50 PM
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Oh god no...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:03 AM
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No content... 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:18 AM
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I went through 6 of the top comments and I don't see what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:13 PM
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become hysterically outraged when it's rightfully pointed out that women who choose the wrong men also go through natural selection. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:00 PM
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looks, confidence, charisma, assertiveness and competence It's refreshing to see a list more than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:02 PM
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Every woman I met who been in abusive relationships always end up in another abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:30 PM
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This is like a reverse UNO just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:07 AM
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Women view husband material as higher value than FWB based on THEIR value structure. Why do some men like you insist on women taking on your value structure? Do you have a problem with people having different values?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:38 PM
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Relationship is sex and exclusivity. 2 + 2 = 4
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:30 PM
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The man who literally gets more is lower value than the man who literally gets less. Yes this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:28 PM
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Yes, because it's only about sex. There is no investment from the women either. This is simply just about men valuing sex more than women. Women actually don't really value sex that much because it's practically thrown at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:23 PM
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☝️☝️☝️ Short and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:28 AM
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I understand that it can be more validating to men but husband material is more exclusive because you literally give them exclusitivity. You can have multiple FWBs and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:17 AM
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Conservative men aren't willing to hide their politics from women in order to get into a relationship. Men in general are willing to hide incompatibility from a woman they fancy. It can be politics, religion, lifestyle differences, or even long-term goals. Really anything that might cost them a chance in the short term. For example at the childfree subreddit, one woman talked about how she started telling men that she LOVES kids to see if the men will lean in and state that they want their own k…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:25 AM
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Conspiracy theories like these never consider how unlikely it is for such actions to actually affect things at the individual level. Why would someone go online and promote anti-dating ideas to complete strangers, thinking it will somehow change their own dating prospects? Even within a small social circle, the impact would be minimal in a world this large. It’s similar to the idea of older women telling younger women not to date older men as some supposed strategy to keep those men for themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:08 PM
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I would think it would be the other way around and women be all into capitalism. Why would they give up the freedom of choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:06 PM
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Some people don't understand math. If a man is willing to throw himself at multiple women then it should not be a surprise to him that each one of those women have other men doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:33 PM
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Used as marketing for scammy MLMs. Some people are naturally insecure. They tend to question decisions that they make so the more choices they have, the worse they feel about the decision they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:21 PM
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Your title claims that they were told by no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:55 AM
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Men seem to get jaded more via getting used by women for resources and labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:51 PM
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Hence why older women can be jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:43 PM
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I quizzed men before passively. "What do you think about _______ or _______?" Random shit they come up with is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:14 PM
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I agree. I seen it in the workplace. A new employee comes in making grand promises to improve things and it falls apart in a couple months.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:54 PM
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With women, I think this is the reason for the singleness discrepancy in the Pew research: They decided the relationship is serious on their own without discussing things. Doesn’t matter you’re having sex and have great dates, talk and establish you’re in a committed relationship. I witnessed the opposite in PPD and AiTA that follow the general storyline below. A guy and gal have the exclusivity talk and become a couple. Later the guy finds out that the gal was sleeping with other men while they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:27 PM
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What makes a personality trait deep? Personality is a combination of thinking, feeling and behavior. Are you primarily talking about thinking and feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:58 PM
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Personality have different levels of depth?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:13 PM
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You can't read can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:39 AM
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I can go on a rant about the usage of the word "real" in the context of hierarchies. I absolutely hate putting people down purely for being different. Either way you think I'm a liar which is fine. Women using OLD to get bombarded with choices is wrong. Women trying it and realizing that OLD doesn't work for them is wrong. Women are wrong blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:33 AM
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Gotcha. I wouldn't say high charisma per say but I did need someone who wasn't passive and able to be direct enough with me to make me feel secure that he does find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:12 AM
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What? Why would you think that? Nothing in my comment has anything to do with a majority of any demographics. I'm just fucking lazy shifting through a bunch of messages. If someone meets enough people in IRL why go on apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:45 PM
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I rather have a man cold approach me than message me on an app. I can feel his vibe in 10 seconds to see if there is nothing absolutely off-putting about him before I proceed to flirt back to entertain the idea. For example, I find nasally voices and bad teeth unattractive. This is stuff that can easily be hidden in OLD profiles. I'm also not going to have the energy nor time to be a weirdo having men jump through a bunch of hoops to prove to me that they don't have those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:44 PM
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You think whataboutism sounds smart? 🙄😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:23 PM
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I like the article adding reasons for any diversion to this likelihood (looking older than actual age, high school sweethearts, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:45 AM
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Here is a lengthy article on the Cab Light Theory. I found it very interesting. Men get a different type of pressure when they no longer fit into the single scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:23 PM
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I get the impression that men here don't report inappropriate comments as much. There are also so many papers abortion and pro age gap debates being started without restriction that I find it hard to believe that there is feminist dictatorship censoring such discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:38 PM
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Do you report comments? I've reported nasty personal comments women said to men and it got removed pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:18 PM
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Ok? They ran away because disagreements easily turned into personal attacks. PPD monitors constantly remove such content hence women stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:13 PM
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Women don't run away because PPD have rules banning actions that lead to unproductive conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:08 PM
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Abortion is a medical thing. Did you know 2+2=4? You can’t put a word in quotes unless someone actually said it first. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:19 AM
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There are a lot of people out there who have zero problems with starving homeless kids on the street and believes in brutal capitalism. Edit: Pretty much "wHY dO tHe rigTHt tHIng IF mY dICk doEsNt gET wEt!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:27 AM
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Yes this too is brought up alot. I tend not to bring up reasonings that is rooted in emotion or designed to pull at heartstrings. It can easily distort logic and justify one’s own position.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:17 AM
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Numerous discussions on paper abortion can be found in PPD. The two primary arguments against permitting men to pursue paper abortion are: A) The matter is fundamentally one of bodily autonomy. B) Any abortion decision made by a woman already leads to the same outcome for the man: not having a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:55 AM
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Is their partner perfect looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:26 PM
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Why is the existence of other people being better in some ways humiliating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:39 AM
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Should older women be jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:29 AM
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People with "if I'm not first then I'm last mentally" are insufferable and their lives suck. Why be that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:19 AM
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Again are you okay with her not wearing the ring? That original ring you proposed to her might have sentimental value because she loves you with all her heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:28 AM
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Cool. 50 bucks. 30 dollars more than what OP is willing to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:22 AM
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Losing a ring that lasts a lifetime is an unintended accident. A cheap ring that is not designed for everyday use falling apart is inevitable. The difference is intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:18 AM
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Honestly you gotta be a realistic person if she doesn't wear it. Realistically there are two reasons why she doesn't wear it. A $20 ring isn't designed to survive everyday wear, she loves you and she wants to cherish it. She will not wear it and HOPE that you understand that this means other men will initially believe that she is single because she doesn't wear it. Hence why I asked you the question. Or A $20 ring is gonna fall apart so why bother even wearing it. She will wonder why you even bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:10 AM
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So you're not going to get upset if she doesn't wear it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:09 AM
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So she must wear a $20 ring? What happens when it breaks? Why not just wear no ring at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:32 AM
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Question: Are you okay with your future wife wearing no ring?. Edit: It took 4 ways of asking to get a yes or no answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:28 AM
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Yes. The caveat of not paying is you can't plan the date because you need to coordinate where she wants and afford to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:42 PM
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Exactly. How many men are actually able to do this in a world of birth control, abortion and child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:30 PM
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Lured out of the relationship? What a weird example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 PM
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You think she is a liar. You are siding with the guy. Just agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:43 AM
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You got all that with that one innocuous line "even though he knows you like things clean" and ignoring the rest of the context? He stopped doing chores which means he use to do them. This is clearly not about a mismatch in cleanliness levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:58 AM
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my question here is about if you have a very high standard of clean and he had a pretty low standard of clean then why would you think when you move in together that would change. He kept his place clean before they moved in together. He stopped being clean when they moved in. Why you looking to take his side and ignoring what was written?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:33 AM
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I physically can’t be with women when I know I’m not their best Work on your sexual compatibility and become their best?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:32 PM
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Yup. They are not looking for a serious partner if they are targeting shallow characteristics. If one meets someone significantly younger organically and happens to click with them then great! But this isn't the type of relationship age gap naysayers are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:41 PM
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That casual sex or external validation is the primary driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:10 PM
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No part of the manosphere is free from criticism. When men online who hate women adopt these labels to represent their lifestyle, it inevitably shapes the public’s perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:09 PM
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Oriental harems like the "The King and I"? The current mainstream example is Mormons. Especially with so many documentaries about Warren Jeffs. There is a reason why polygamy isn't widely practiced today. Concentrated power is not good for society as a whole. For both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:19 AM
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Only mental gymnastics can come up with this alternative interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:38 PM
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Source on the claim that men are happier with "red pill" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:33 PM
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"Only target Chads" 🙄 Some men are so messed up that they are jealous of SA victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:13 AM
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Agree. It's a meme that bachelor pads only have a mattress on the ground to sleep, a PlayStation and a TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:32 PM
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NYC has a sex ratio skewed toward women. Women have to put in more effort to lock down a man and men have an easier time dating. I don't know why men think women equate sex and relationships when they don't do it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:45 PM
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The "shy guys can be assholes too" is a response toward the argument that shy introverts are automatically the better option if the opportunity is given to them. You are essentially agreeing with them but focused on the actual damage and not the potential. It's a useless distinction to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:04 AM
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Yeah wtf does he think people get pets for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:25 PM
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niche hobbies, willingly gaining lots of knowledge in certain topics, engaging in deep conversations, thinking philosophically. The average man doesn't do this either. Deep conversations are considered deep BECAUSE it rarely happens. Lots of knowledge is described as "lots" for the same reason. Edit: Niche hobbies are niche because it's not that interesting for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:55 PM
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Imagine putting in a ton of effort to improve only to choose the wrong guy and flush all that effort down the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:00 PM
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Great strawman. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:33 PM
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Most man don't look across the room and think "Wow! Look at that woman's individuate!" You can't control people to pay attention and to see who you are. There are a ton of external factors that are out of your control. You can't do that if your screening process is the same as every other woman in your area/space. Most women don't screen at all. This is why it's a dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:21 PM
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You can't make men view you as special. You have to screen for men who do. Trying to change men who don't think you are special and willing to half ass fuck you is a terrible strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:01 PM
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Agree. OP truly has it backwards. The advice to not tolerate men treating you badly is BECAUSE most men don't think you're special. So obviously, the solution is to just accept any attention. Brilliant. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:51 AM
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For a good minute I was confused by your question until I realized your reference. I give it a 💯 / 💯 !
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:50 PM
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Thanks for the cup of coffee. Here's my vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:15 AM
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Yes, lust love at first sight. Men Women are visual creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:37 AM
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It's the belief that women can't gain attraction and are only able to lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:37 PM
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If someone only marries a person because no one else would date them, it reflects poorly on their character. Women can be made to feel special without them scrolling through their man's social to find old pictures of his ex and go "haha I beat her!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:40 AM
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Scarcity drives up value so theoretically he will try to be a good partner. The problem is if he comes across a rare opportunity to cheat, will he value that opportunity over the relationship? Ultimately regardless whether men have options his character is going to bring value to commitment minded women. Too bad the "wHat dO You exPecT?!?!" crowd conveniently erases the nuance of human relationships to take cheap shots so they can feel better about their sad lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:11 AM
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Most people are fully capable of understanding that one person’s bad behavior doesn’t reflect on an entire gender. Many women have positive dating experiences with men in their lives. You think a gossip website will derail all of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:57 AM
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There are people with experience in dating who prefer to take things slow as well. This is why the choice of where the dates happen is important. If it's private at each other's houses then there are opportunities where a misunderstanding can occur to break each other's boundaries. Don't go to the movies if hand holding is out of the question. Do a dinner with a table that have you and her sit across from each other. Put some distance and communicate it through body language. Verbalizing your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:51 AM
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☝️☝️☝️☝️ I knew my friend enough that his ego wasn't going to turn him into a sex crazed monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:30 PM
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I asked a guy out once that I knew liked me because he asked me out several months prior but I rejected him because I was seeing someone else at the time. The conversation went immediately to sex when I just wanted to go see a movie at the theater. I knew him as a friend first so we had enough rapport for me to make fun of him for that and went on a normal date later. If I had asked out a guy I was attracted to but didn’t have much rapport with, and he immediately made it sexual, I know I would’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:57 AM
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Seems like OP is exposed to one too many meme of single mother's OLD profile shaming men for not being "strong enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:57 AM
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I wonder how many PPD women actually feel it's condemnable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:41 AM
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I get the impression that the Philippines gets the worst deal in the sex tourism world. There are so many articles of Asian and Western men abandoning their kids there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:15 AM
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PUA is purely about technique in seducing women. The SoSuave forum was a popular place to discuss it with other men in the 90's. The Matrix movie came out in 1999 about the pill concept and TRP was born from men who were primarily frustrated by divorce culture and family court. TRP acknowledges the importance of "game" AKA PUA but focuses more on understanding the pitfalls of dating and marrying women. Edit: Eventually it evolved into this TikTok brand of TRP that is just pure misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:12 PM
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The married version had to be created away from the original version because constructive discussion was impossible when a bunch of divorced men kept arguing against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:28 PM
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I noticed the same with early manosphere TRP material about being anti-marriage and employing the dread game. PUA is the only thing that men get a step by step direction to actually start a conversation with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:42 PM
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How do you truly know that the information or the manner of how the information is relayed is not different between these two contexts? The therapy industry is heavily built around privacy. Their friends are just responding with empty platitudes and waiting for their turn to monologue. This might be a great exchange of emotional labor for most of our minor superficial problems but I don't witness women doing this with topics like their parents divorce, sexual assault, PTSD, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:55 AM
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A male friend of mine also went to therapy after his wife almost killed him and it was a godsend to him too. He tried to talk about it within my friend group but it always turned into a massive joke to lighten the mood. Having heavy conversations with a bunch of early 20's drinking partiers was not the best environment for him to unpack his trauma. His therapist made him realize what caused him to get into the type of relationship that he did while he was going through his divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:31 AM
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Why assert that the conversations between therapists and their patients are no different from those shared between friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:33 AM
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Centering yourself around anyone is almost always produce bad results. Mutual benefit in a relationship should be a byproduct and not a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:31 PM
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The listed drawbacks don't seem to be that bad tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:56 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:58 PM
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Interpersonal relationships and idol worship are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:36 PM
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Why don't these types of questions ever talk about love? Be like "You are in love with this person and they have a past that you might find questionable. Is this a deal breaker?" Vetting for good qualities is essential but without love what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:15 AM
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The "somewhat good looking" part made me wanna pass too by itself. I should be crazy about the guy in the beginning and be deluded that he is the most handsome man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:57 AM
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This is a common description of the general dating landscape the members of the manosphere tell each other. It's a revenge fantasy built around a zero to hero narrative. Most people don't experience a dramatic glow up. This has never been the AVERAGE male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:57 AM
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I reread our interaction. You are correct that I used those words. I should have phrased it more clearly. What I meant is that some men feel not good enough when they’re met with disinterest or no one points out a trait they possess as attractive. It’s about how rejection is internalized, not about women placing themselves above anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:16 AM
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But you don't liking a man doesn't mean he's "not good enough". It just means he isn't your type. Plenty of young men tie their self worth to women and interpret disinterest with disdain. It's them telling themselves that they are not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:55 AM
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But, does your image or perception matter more than the negative societal consequences that arise from your dishonesty? Yes. Because at the individual level there is social cost to being honest to men about them not having a chance. In my youth, I told people that I don't know what attracted me when I was asked about my preferences. My past crushes and boyfriends varied a lot in personality and looks. I didn't dissect men at the time to find out why and just went with the flow of things. The wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:52 PM
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Funny how this simple point just didn’t register. Men create this dynamic by bombarding women with attention, ignore the downsides women experience from it and then criticize them for speaking up about it. Just amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:47 PM
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women often have a head start due to the simple fact that they’re desired and catered to more than men are. Who is in the position to give them this so called "head start"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:02 PM
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Women are not privileged because men want them more than vice versa. The framing of this dynamic reflects a system where women's value is often defined by what men want, prioritizing men's desires rather than recognizing women on their own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 10:36 AM
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Most women (US) are fat and do not look young. even if most are duds even a 1% chance would work wonders for a women That work of combing through for that 1% is unpleasant. I don't care if it's technically less sucky compared to the male dating experience because they value casual sex more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 10:15 AM
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Maybe not call people dumb? Explain they are misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:18 AM
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"Women want HVM and I am one of them. I have no trouble getting sex. They are missing their shot with me. They’re using a strategy that only pushes me away. They need to know it's working against their own best interest."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:12 AM
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What advantages do they gain that women don't already have? It's been explained. They can opt out of the responsibility of a future child that comes into existence without a medical intervention. That’s a significant distinction. A woman’s legal right to abortion is based on the principle of bodily autonomy. Which is why financial abortion should only be an option prior to the child being born. If women can terminate it because the argument is, it's just a clump of cells, men should be able to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:04 AM
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The paper abortion option is close enough, even if it isn't exactly equal to the choice of having an abortion. You think it's close enough because it gives men all the advantages without any of the disadvantages. If a child exists, then both women and men have rights and responsibilities over that child. Abortion prevents the child from existing. It's an equal outcome. Financial abortion allows one parent to forgo responsibility for a child that does exist and unilaterally transfer that responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:37 AM
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Fiftypoundpuppy already explained. Men don't give birth. Are you one of those trans activists who is going to disagree due gender identity politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:05 AM
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Words have meanings
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:43 PM
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Since an equivalent option isn't available due to the inequality is based on biology then just get rid of father's rights all together. Why should men get all the benefits of pregnancy and abortion without actually needing to go through with them with the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:40 PM
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Well if she gets an abortion then there is no child for paternal or financial obligation for both the man and the woman. If the existence of the child hinges on the woman to go through with the pregnancy then the man should have zero rights even if he wants to act like a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:01 PM
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they can't opt out of the child's birth I didn't know men gave birth...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:41 PM
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"I'm not a racist! I'm an asshole to everyone!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:00 PM
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Think outside the box and the social constrictions you are putting on people. These women who seek a partner to fulfill a provider role aren't lacking self awareness. They are simply aware that they no longer need to be submissive to achieve that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:15 PM
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Can you link the thread that you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:50 PM
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So emotional vulnerability equals easy? You can have your heart on your sleeves and still have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:57 AM
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False dilemma fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:15 PM
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There are two reasons why it's exaggerated. OG RP - Purposely shocked their readers into "waking up". Today's RP - Outrage sells.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:39 AM
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Most people don't do this and I argue that the person who assumes exclusivity is more manipulative playing the victim. What if she also assumed as well but thought it was a FWB situation instead? Was this guy actually treating her like a girlfriend? Calling her his girlfriend and she didn't correct him? It's not hard to communicate. If one is going to assume a relationship let the other one know to see if they correct you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:54 PM
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Having good boundaries is the more appropriate way to describe this than strategically bitchy. Yes, placating men does not yield good results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:45 PM
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"Give me yo virginity and I'll bounce later"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:38 PM
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I was line dancing and drinking at a country club. A man approached and introduced himself. He told me that he has been interested in me for awhile because he seen me around the dorms and that I'm very different from the other women because I'm not sleeping around with any guys. My first reaction was an image of this man with binoculars in the bushes by my dorm room watching me go in and out. I wasn't actually creeped out at that point because it was such a bizarre thing to say and caught me off…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:47 PM
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The general consensus is no. But tbh most approaches to women are a no anyway. Take your shot as long as you were respectful and you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:55 AM
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Check out the other response to my comment. This Shame dude is begging for my attention for men to have zero agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:20 AM
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just contrarian for the sake of it. I definitely done that before. If someone states CMV in their post then I'll try to find an angle even if I personally not 100% about it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:40 PM
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That is the nature of a debate sub. No one challenges others to a CMV if they didn't strongly believe in their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:32 PM
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u/My_House_On_Mars I found one!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:14 PM
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I like the rules here (no personal advice, no same sex from and to questions, debate response actually must challenge the OP, etc) to avoid circle jerks (echo chamber) While there are a lot of the same topics that circulate (women have too high of standards, financial abortion, age gap, size, etc) there is enough variety and just plain regular rage bait for me to not consider it an echo chamber. Are you sure it's an echo chamber to you because the topics surrounding around one topic (pill philos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:05 PM
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I was hoping for a miracle. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:24 PM
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It definitely hits different. Young people get a pass for being naive, stupid and selfish. There is plausible deniability to help with forgiveness and healing. Situations young people go through together are more likely to be seen as learning and growing together. Even through mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:46 AM
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Both people have agency in the situation. I think you're confusing the likelihood of someone breaking the cycle with who holds responsibility. She's more likely to end the pattern by leaving than he is to suddenly to find Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:36 AM
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Yet the majority don't warn others against dating men their own age. Age comes with experience. When someone uses that experience to manipulate or harm, it's different from someone who acts out of ignorance or inexperience. One shows intent or at least should know better, while the other may simply not know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:23 AM
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If the majority of a population has had a bad experience with something, it's reasonable to advise others to avoid it. Even if that very something is simply correlated to the actual thing that is terrible. It's well known as a "red flag".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:07 AM
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Agree. The gap is a correlation to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:48 AM
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Seems like any relationship pitfalls are to be blamed on women then. Edit: Essentially claiming men have no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:47 AM
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Does this argument work on people who chose to be in a physically abusive relationship? They chose it hence no one is allowed to tell them that their decision maybe a poor one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:40 AM
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Nah that Occam's Razor thing ain't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:48 PM
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So you believe that understanding how the world works in red pill fashion is not enough to be red pill which is known as the descriptive approach. One has to take the prescriptive approach to it which is pretty much focusing one's energy on achieving the ideal sex life. Why don't you believe that one can swallow the pill and use the flexible toolbox method so they can take into consideration other values or goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:15 PM
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Matthew Hussey and Kev Hick if you are looking for that content.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:03 PM
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If you don't remember their answers then how do you know the answers you get from PPD will be better or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:53 AM
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Yes and he complained when he was redirecting his anger about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:51 PM
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I hate when people are rude. Is it hard to initially say "Thank you but I'm not interested?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:33 AM
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I very much agree. I was under the impression that it just "happened" only to later be told otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:43 PM
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He was trying to answer the question OP asked. Complaining and simply stating facts of one's compromises are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:11 AM
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He isn't complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:43 AM
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Plenty of PPD men resort to assuming and calling all women here feminists. Instead of engaging with the actual topic, they derail the conversation by introducing irrelevant points and setting up strawmans in an attempt to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:23 AM
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I don't know what your dating experiences have been like, but in mine, when men express that kind of over-the-top gratitude, it’s often a sign they’re putting you on a pedestal. The over-the-topness is the marker. Not just basic gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:35 PM
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Get over myself? It has nothing to do with me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:18 PM
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In my view, a healthy relationship is when love is mutual. If someone feels compelled to express deep gratitude just for being loved, it could point to an underlying imbalance in how they see the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:16 PM
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You thank service workers not your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:32 AM
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It sure does. I'm not into cars, sports, fishing, guns etc that a lot of men are into and list on OLD. Critically thinking about it, those hobbies don't mean I won't click with them but my preconceived notions about the "types" of men will get me to preemptively reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:44 PM
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I have a meet cute story. I approached my husband by accident because I needed help with something and scanned the area for a man who didn't seem occupied. We bumped into each other again at the same place a week later and started chatting. Turned out he worked next door and everyday checked the area after work when he walked passed it to his car before going home hoping to see me again. Less people are meeting organically. If I came across my husband's OLD profile I would not have picked him ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:10 PM
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Similarly sex is cheap and easy for women. As a result, some may not view sleeping with a man who turns out to be an asshole as something that might unintentionally reinforce that kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:50 PM
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"If you give women nice tokens they will reward you with sex!" Majority of women: "Ew that's fucked up."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:29 PM
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There is a wiki page on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:38 AM
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This is why I like the Coffee meets Bagel app. It only gives you one recommendation a day. If a match is made then you can only send the first message to each other the first 7 days before unmatching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:15 PM
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We already know that men will fuck anything, I assure you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:24 PM
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Swiping on a guy takes only 2 seconds. A woman can easily swipe right on 20 guys in one night and wake up with 20 messages. Yes it's overwhelming because the apps are designed to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:28 PM
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It's hilarious when so called Red Pillers don't even know the Matrix reference. Red pill evolved into something real nasty. The new generation has a new set of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:07 PM
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No because he will most likely not be a good father. What if the child still come out short? Will he still love the child? Even if the child grows up tall maybe they have the type of romantic success the father doesn't desire? Gay? Asexual? Crippling anxiety of not living up to their father's expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:18 PM
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Not really. It affects both men and women. If one only hangs out in certain social groups and certain internet spaces then that leads to a sampling bias. They refuse to take in information outside of those spaces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_bias
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:20 AM
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They want the option to date them for STR. LTR is the next level to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:54 PM
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Sounds like sampling bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:19 AM
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Most people who start their own business can't initially just work 40 hours a week. They typically have to commit 24/7 of their time to get it going.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:58 AM
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These are risk averse women. Ask them to try a new restaurant and they will refuse unless 10 plus people verify that it's good. Also some men are just so unpleasant and unaccepting a reject after the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:19 PM
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Someone doesn't understand that evolution psychology isn't a conscious thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:44 PM
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in terms of options and attention Why would women need to actively acknowledge this? There is no gain out of it. All it does is to make some men feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:05 AM
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Yes. Women whine about it with each other. Whining at your first date is obviously annoying and a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:44 AM
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Autism helps with the ability to plainly describe social interactions in this manner. Everyone else is like "I just talk to people and if it happens it happens."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:01 AM
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All good. My son is not circumcised because I watched the Dr. Money documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:25 PM
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And you don't understand that they're not talking about that particular solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:46 PM
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These two responses are trying to solve different things within the same problem. Feeling guilty about something that wasn't your fault is pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:39 PM
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Will you at least admit it’s wrong to do to a child? ??? I described the decline of circumcision as huge. It implies that is a positive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:04 AM
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Men are also far more likely than women to be the victim. And far more likely by other men. Why will so few women admit that genital cutting is wrong? The US seen a huge decline in circumcision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:44 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂 Nice strawman. I answered OPs question about what is the best way to do it and you go into mental gymnastics mode getting all upset. Keep running little hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:54 PM
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Because in life there is no gray area and risk taking is a no go. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:39 PM
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Because nuance. If the friendship is relatively new or it was on the shallow end (more like a friend of a friend) then I don't see why not. People interpret the depth of friendship levels differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:03 PM
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If they really need to shoot their shot at least do it in a mature way so it is not embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:35 PM
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Fear to self preserve. It's not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:35 PM
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Lots of women don't like being put on the spot for an immediate answer. People prefer to mull it over instead of being pressured.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:23 PM
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Don't say "I liked you from the very beginning." Men who use friendship as a scheme for a relationship think about their feelings a lot before informing the women. This leads to very over the top love confessions that come across insincere and creepy. Say "I developed feelings for you after getting to know you as a person" in a relaxed manner. This is a friend that one built a rapport with. It should not be a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:07 PM
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That contract will not be held up in the US courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:10 AM
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I wish OP's claim have links of the discussions with these representative PPD women or pick one of the topics to debate instead of making it into one vague claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:14 AM
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Blogilates' Cassey Ho hoodie design video went viral
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:46 AM
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Unfair and unreasonable content on Tiktok gets the most viewer engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:13 PM
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Sounds like a great candidate for a temporary relationship to pass the time. Just like what he is doing with me. He doesn't fulfill my needs. I don't need him and am able to dump him when the time comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:52 PM
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How can he click in every other way but can't fulfill my needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:45 PM
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Maybe OP is one of those types who thinks the relationship status and the willingness to have sex is the only value that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:41 PM
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He may not fulfil all your needs but he provides just about enough for you to stick around. So he is a temporary relationship to me? Since I'm not in love with him then I can't be upset with him about it. Just a lukewarm relationship to pass the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:36 PM
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It's similar to rich people being conservatives. They claim that people need to pull up themselves by their bootstraps as if it's something easy to do while they often come from a background of generational wealth. People who lose a lot of weight are often shocked and confused about how differently people treat them. I read about one woman who got 2 promotions in 6 months after working for a company for 10 years after her weight loss even though her work quality didn't change. She was angry and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:24 PM
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You do know that my original luck comment was a response to a comment about men dating right? Stop being bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:17 PM
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You can be the most worthy person out there, but if the right person doesn’t cross your path it won’t matter. Acting like it’s all within your control is just comforting delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:00 PM
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People hate taking luck into consideration. It means they don't have control and that's scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:34 PM
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You are using the words "should" and "shouldn't" without any reasoning to back up your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:28 PM
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If a category is so important that you’re willing to break up with someone over But they didn't know that important thing until later. How can you blame someone for not knowing something? They didn't know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:43 AM
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Understanding one's self more is growth and change. Typically people explain the reason behind the break up this way so they don't blame the partner who stayed the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:30 AM
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I remember one of my friends calling a woman a predator based on how she interacted with men. Later that year that woman got pregnant and guilt tripped the father into marrying her. A year into the marriage he tried to divorce her. She got pregnant again and dragged the marriage out for 2 more years after that. The guy was an idiot and he was warned so many times about her. She ended up finding another target online and that other guy flew her out to the other side of the country to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:45 PM
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Logically yeah it doesn't make any sense to get upset over another person's preference that doesn't affect you. Certainly seems like the default reaction though. It's a part of basic human tribalism. Anyone who strays too far away from the norm is looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:14 PM
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It's a super odd experience. My male boss even made a comment saying "Damn Demasii! Good job!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:01 AM
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Hence why he commented on the AutoMod. If you don't like how PPD is set up then don't post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:56 AM
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My hubby pointed out that women were giving me dirty looks at the mall early into our relationship. Idk if it was him or my outfit but I wouldn't be surprised if it was him because we didn't match.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:53 AM
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So exhibit B's success still revolves around women. So much for GTOW part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:46 PM
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I was nodding my head agreeing until I got to You're simply drawing the line where it's convenient to you like any seasoned misandrist hypocrite woman. Why come up with an outrageous accusation based on something so ridiculously innocuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:17 AM
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Framing things in a different way is not bullshit. Just because it doesn’t sound edgy doesn’t mean it’s fake. Sometimes we need to explain things in a matter of fact way to open our eyes to see what is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:23 PM
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☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ OP thinks rephrasing the same idea in a crude way somehow makes it more authentic, as if it's some kind of groundbreaking insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:42 AM
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The "eVeRyOnE iS dIfFeReNt" platitude is wholly and utterly pointless 💯💯💯 There would be nothing to debate at PPD if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:18 PM
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The pro-age gap men introduce the legality of it in the discussion when the anti-age gap women aren't trying to make it illegal. People can make a cognitive stupid decision and be warned by others that it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:32 PM
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If you’re trying to market a product, your ultimate goal is to sell as much of that product as possible. No it's not. It is to make the most profit. If you have very few products then ideally you sell them at a high price. If you have a lot of products then selling them at a high price may leave some unsold which negatively affects the overall profit. The metaphor holds up when describing general patterns rather than individual nuances. The real marketplace of commodities works the same. Some pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:05 AM
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Why would these women go through IVF if they are able to get pregnant themselves? This is such a fake story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:04 PM
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It's a false equivalence. One is a contextual generalization and the other is a legal absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:32 PM
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Anyone ever seen morons at work promoted because they were confident and able to talk big? It can work with women in the short run. Some of these women end up staying due to the sunken cost fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:14 PM
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It's a general statement that something is not a good idea. The same way society does with many other topics. Your reaction to any suggestion people make reminds me of thelonelyisland's comedy video called "Throw it on the Ground"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:08 PM
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thinks they're being a good person by unilaterally making another adult's choice for them No one is doing this. will rarely say they are too young to be voting or driving, because it doesn't stir their emotions the same way. Of course it stirs emotions differently. Because they are different subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:26 PM
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It's not about the legality of it. It's about whether it's a good choice or not. I can legally date an alcoholic. People can say my choice is a poor one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:27 PM
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Good try. If the majority of young women had good experiences dating significantly older men there wouldn't be a stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:43 AM
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The reason behind the analogy went over your head while simultaneously displaying the very reaction it was meant to evoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:12 AM
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"if someone is not old enough to choose who they want to date, they are not old enough to choose the leader of our nation" I don't disagree with that. But that's not what I'm calling a strawman am I? It's funny that you are strawmanning me pointing out another person's strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:39 PM
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The people who disagreed with interracial and same sex dating often didn't personally experience it or had close relationships with people who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:13 PM
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Very true! I didn't think of that. Imagine telling a man who gets divorce raped by his ex-wife that it's perfectly legal 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:20 PM
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Tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:47 AM
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They're adults dude. If they can't "protect themselves from exploitation", they shouldn't be adults, they shouldn't have the right to vote. The good old "it's not illegal so it should be socially accepted" strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:26 AM
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That "men leave sick wives 7 times more" research was retracted. It accidentally counted the people who left the study as divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:41 PM
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How old are they to be going to speed dating events?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:54 PM
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Gotcha. I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:57 AM
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That was my first thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:34 AM
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It doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:16 AM
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Race is a social construct and the concepts of an “Asian look” or “Asian behavior” exist within that construct. They are not biological truths, but socially created categories have real effects in people's lives. Just like it did with slavery. No one is entitled to date anyone. No one is entitled to your physical or emotional romantic affections. This is the line we drew in the current modern society. Maybe that line will blur in the future. Maybe we will end up living in an emotional communism …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:18 AM
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entire group within a gender Why leave gender out? Why not be a pansexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:48 PM
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A good chuck of men in PPD think they are morally superior because they have lower standards and less "picky".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:57 AM
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Not really wild at all. Refusing to date people with a certain characteristic isn't a phobia. Refusing to date Asians isn't xenophobic. Refusing to date fat people isn't fatphobic. Dating is fundamentally discriminative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:29 AM
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getting an ego boost by being chosen by someone with the most positive bonafides. That's everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:53 PM
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Math still isn't mathing in your head huh? THE WOMEN DON'T WANT THEM! 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:07 AM
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They admit they are drowning in a swamp. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:02 AM
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Who said anything about prize? They are being pursued by LVM. They rather be single so the math there does math.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:36 AM
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Men, when they are single, have no problem admitting that the reason they are single is because no one can possibly want them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:19 AM
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The math isn't mathing. Men admit that they tried and failed. No body wants them. Who is rejecting them? The women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:10 AM
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Obviously you know your dynamic with your wife more than me. Her decision to marry you without sexual satisfaction sounds like dumb young people bullshit. You accepting this awful treatment is also dumb young people bullshit. I believe (outside POV of course) that if you were not a virgin you would have felt like you had options and left her. Not satisfy her entitlements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:45 PM
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Do you think your ex wife would have treated you better if you were not a virgin? Or would she have found something else about you to use as a reason to mistreat you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:34 PM
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Some men are so insecure about their virginity that it defines them. They can't fathom that it's not tattooed on their forehead for women to automatically know. I'm more wary about men's social media content to see if they share any problematic materials.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:01 AM
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Maybe ask the question in these conversations instead of making a post about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:42 PM
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I don't like this size topic trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:53 AM
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Incel means to be involuntarily celibate. People who choose to be happily single had a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:35 PM
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dismiss/victim blame baby-trapped men use exactly same argumentation as prolifers who are against rights of women. "If you don't want kid, you had to use rubber, now it is your fault". Double standards are very irritating. They are not the same argumentation. Body autonomy, whether the unborn should have the legal right to life and responsibility that comes with parenthood are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:54 AM
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Ruminating about and accusing unverifiable things about women's past and feelings so they justify their own relationship decisions... I don't think the word "truth" applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:46 PM
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If a woman says that she loves you and you don't believe her then break up. You don't have to gaslight or prove to her to believe otherwise. You wanting to feel secure in your own relationship is a bare minimum. Be responsible for your emotions and stop blaming the woman if she is not what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:43 PM
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They can't control themselves so they want women to control it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:06 AM
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Turn your weakness into a strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:05 PM
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Another "bUT tHEy R tHe MOst @ttRActivE!!!" discussion. If older men truly want young women for more than just their hot bodies and naivete then young women would have better experiences dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:29 PM
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I only know the narrative of being a male virgin past a certain age makes them undateable. But only men perpetuate it and seem to be confusing correlation with causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:36 PM
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The median age of last birth for women is around 40 in natural fertility populations. Men like to have sex with fertile women. Sperm is plentiful. They don't restrict themselves to just young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:22 AM
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gas is a commodity 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 A lot of terrible things will have to happen to women in order to make them a commodity. Importing them from other countries, selective abortion to birth more of them... 😨
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:57 PM
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Thanks for the info. I tried looking into it more but the search engines kept trying to push how to establish paternity. But the info I did find on lawyer blog type websites definitely seems like paternity can be reserved when done soon enough at least in my state. I wish I could find actual statues though. Family law seems to be pretty vague on timelines and uses the "best interest of the child" concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:40 AM
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When I got older I realized how creepy it was I was in relationships with older men in the past and was ______ (Manipulated, abused, power dynamic, used for sex, etc.) How convenient that these are the only statements that OP has come across. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:00 PM
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It may not be that easy. Depending on the law, the man can still be responsible to pay child support if they were married and his name was put on the birth certificate before the test was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:46 PM
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Which state? If you are in the United States. Clinics are a part of the government's reach and need permission to operate. Depending on the state, they can be required for all workers to be vaccinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:53 PM
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She said she’d take the plan B but didn’t for like 5 days due to nonsense. Are there any similar legal contracts that creates a legal precedent where an individual agrees with another individual to insert medicine/chemical into their body? I can only think of government institutions requiring people to be vaccinated but not agreements between individuals. Even if she took the Plan B properly it can still result in pregnancy. So the result is a part of the expected risks. Apart from the method of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:20 AM
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It's healthy when someone glows up because they are intrinsically motivated to be better. The way the narrative is written at PPD is that men are extrinsically motivated. To get that "prime" body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:00 PM
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it's entirely possibly for a man to have a glow up later in life when he gets his fitness, career and finances together, and has practiced his social skills enough to become truly confident. And at that point, he'll finally be able to attract young women in their physical prime Is it possible? Sure. Does it happen more often than not? Probably not. It's a common narrative told within PPD. Whenever it's brought up it comes across like a fantasy. Something to talk about in theory because many want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:15 AM
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What is your motivation to ask this question? I highly doubt any man will prefer that he was unsuccessful in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:05 AM
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Comparison is the thief of joy. The men who were successful in college might be jealous of the men who were successful in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:54 AM
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If he’s not chasing them, he must have options. If he has options, he must be worth fighting for. Yes, abundance mentality and social proof helps. And once they get him, they trick themselves into believing he’ll be loyal, as if a man’s refusal to grovel means he won’t cheat. Yeah no. These types of women aren't thinking long term like that. They just want to win against other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:22 AM
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You need MONEY to be a provider. If a provider type men don't have money they are not going to propose. It takes longer today to find a job to support a family than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:26 PM
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Status is highly contextual This is why talking about status is tough. Whenever it's watered down to a man's tiktok or his salary it just doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:18 PM
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The math just isn't mathing when a claim is made that women as a whole have significantly more dating experiences (10 relationships?!?!) than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:33 PM
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Pointing out that people who go to therapy are more likely to exhibit problematic behavior Pointing out that people who go to the hospital are more likely to be sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 12:25 AM
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It seems like you don't understand what getting separate orders means. You are missing their point. You don't have to be at a restaurant spending money on your own food and your own time with her if she is a freeloader. A free first date will weed out those women because those women will not accept the date in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:26 AM
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try to argue the exact opposite to show how this is stupid? Thank you for putting it in words so I didn't have to. It's so dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:00 PM
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Do you consider the year 2015 or 2019 recent? I only looked up 2 of your random array of covers (Big Emotions and Wicked Thoughts)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:41 PM
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The only way is a social change in attitude. A campaign depicting loving married couples utilizing paternity tests would be a start. The current environment of a bunch of angry men online calling women gold digging whores trying to steal resources through child support is not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:07 PM
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Definitely. Insurance will be the biggest lobbyist against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:00 PM
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who’s going to fund it? Most people don't think about the details of how to implement these things when coming up with these ideas. Will it be the woman's or man's insurance? What if there are multiple possible fathers? Should insurance cover the cost of all of them? What if the father is away during the birth? Is the hospital going to allocate resources to hunt him down?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:55 PM
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Hospital: "You are not a patient but give us your DNA." Man: "No"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:43 PM
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How can you read something and translate it to something completely different in your head? It's projection. The desire to feel wanted and their egos can't handle any other explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:41 AM
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Where can I find these facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:50 PM
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The study finding men are more likely to leave a sick partner results was a miscalculation of the data and was retracted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:20 PM
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What does reproductive rights, reducing tolerance for sexual harassment, body autonomy, self-acceptance, and anti-discrimination have anything to do with the particular dating preferences for wealth you witnessed with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:38 AM
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Nothing is wrong with prioritizing physical attraction. The not much of a talker thing is seriously crippling and should not be categorized as low preference. How would two people who don't care to talk to each other get together? It's not a realistic expectation. It's just as unrealistic as having a highly specific preference for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:05 AM
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I thought the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:30 PM
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I looked more into it. The guy on the right made an offensive joke about women, she told he wasn't funny, he told her she wasn't pretty and then she stated that she was out of his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 10:47 PM
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while I know some of this starts as a joke, I go to the comments and I seeing countless women hyping up these ideas Because the majority who accurately see it as a joke don't comment. They laugh and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:18 PM
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The opportunity cost is higher in developed countries. When you live in a rich country and have a child, your sacrifices to raise that child is relatively greater than a poor country. The sacrifices are greater because there are more opportunities in a rich country. See examples below. Unable to buy a house due to the cost of daycare. Unable to go out with friends to drink due to a lack of babysitter. Unable to go to college due to a lack of time. When you live in a poorly developed country, hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 11:56 AM
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A lot of these things are nice. My dad followed the sidewalk rule with me when I was young. While I appreciate them, things like flowers every week lose their meaning. Personally, it's a bit of a chore to keep them alive and eventually throw them away when dead. The best type of man is someone who tailors his actions (without compromising his values or personality of course) to suit the individual woman. A woman's preferred "love language" maybe receiving gifts. I am a "quality time" type of per…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:46 AM
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Usually men don't give this advice randomly. It's usually in response to women's laments about not finding quality men to date. This has not been my experience IRL. I mainly witness men advise women of these things because the women rejected one of the men's friends and tried to change her mind. Women complaining does happen but I found that typically there is more to the story where the "lower your standards" advice doesn't make sense within the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:35 AM
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everything in life should be attempted to make more equal. And I disagree with that. Should we be killing husbands who lost their wives to a deadly pregnancy? Hell no. Equality for just equality sake is stupid. Equal does not automatically mean it's fair, just or good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:56 AM
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The women choose to have kids as well. If my husband can only afford an apartment without combining our income after I give birth then are we supposed to sell our house?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:53 AM
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Men did not choose to have the inability to go through pregnancy. Biological inequality is not a good reason to penalize someone to "make up" for the inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:43 AM
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My theory is that there are less friendships in general for them to turn into relationships. More people spend time on the internet than hanging out with people to cultivate those friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:02 PM
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I agree with you that people have different expectations with each other and what is "owed" as in how they should act with each other. Finding someone compatible is the purpose of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:51 PM
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Anytime something bad happens feminists default to Muh patriarchy and blame it for all their problems. I stubbed my toe this morning... IT'S THE PATRIARCHY'S FAULT!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:13 PM
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It's a valid emotion and I don't like it when it's used as an insult. The problem is when instead of accepting that there is a basic incompatibility, the person with the more experience is viewed negatively. Experience is built by having experience. Incentivising those with more to not participate with ones with less will create a larger gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:45 AM
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Idk. That's what you're claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:40 PM
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No one said it was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:47 PM
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So you know the definition but decided to continue distorting the argument anyway? 😆😆😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:51 PM
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Nice strawman. It's not fooling any women here making the same arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:39 PM
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It does work the other way. Reread OP's edit section. He is literally instructing women to pretend that it doesn't work the other way purely because he doesn't want to. they get offended when men protect themselves from women. Avoiding rape isn't getting offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:31 AM
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It's super odd to me that in this utopia perfect world that men need to protect themselves from women but it magically can't work the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:52 AM
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👋👋👋
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:42 AM
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You literally just told me that I didn't answer the question on how I would react to the scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:34 AM
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You still haven’t answered the question No shit. just creating infinite scenarios that make man bad, woman good. It's one scenario...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:22 AM
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Turning it into something it isn't? Nice try gaslighting. stops you to sign a consent form or record yourself giving consent, how would you HONESTLY feel/react? You don't actually want them to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:16 AM
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For the sake of this debate, if possible, go in with 99% certainty that he isn’t trying to use your consent against you. For the sake of this debate, you don't remove glaring flaws in arguments just because it doesn't suit you. Dealing with liars is a part of being in society. Unless cameras are everywhere recording everyone there is no way of avoiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:11 AM
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Women are shallow and selfish, if she doesn’t desire you, she won’t suddenly like you just because you’re nice to her and buy her drinks or dinner. Sounds pretty shallow and selfish if she did start liking someone because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:35 PM
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Don't know if nascent is the adjective you intended to use but it was a joke. Not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:01 PM
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Some people really don't get AutoMod threads...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:56 PM
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OP: Have you ever insert an EXTREMELY detailed scenario Me: No?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:24 PM
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You have a very simplified view of the world, how it works and history. People regardless of gender had to work for food and shelter. This is both outside and in the home in all societies. 50% of the population just doesn't do anything while the other 50% supports them. Civilization will collapse if it utilized only half of its labor resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:56 AM
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Well at least the TikToker here admits that her opinion is controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:49 PM
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I wish the TikTok ban stuck so outrage culture seekers and the naive idiots with zero life experience can have one less place to congregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:32 PM
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Below is a quote from Sigmund Freud who introduced the concept. "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." Women who are also affected by M/W complex can't feel loved and be sexual at the same time. Sex is a degrading act that they feel ashamed of and feel that there is no place for that in a relationship or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:34 PM
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It's no different than the mother deciding to not put down the father's name on the birth certificate. Plenty of single mothers decided not to involve the fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:13 AM
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Or that If an unmarried man gets a woman pregnant he has the option of claiming parental rights or not during the first trimester. The problem with this is that there are couples who will mutually agree to try for a child only for the man to withdraw his support after the fact. Men will do a lot of unscrupulous things to get sex. Someone else pointed out, the woman can sign a contract with the man before sex to fully take on the responsibility if a pregnancy occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:49 AM
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Spam everyone since your rejection rate will be high. It's mostly men doing this. The messaging rate for men is way higher than women. They assume that all men are desperate so date way outside of your league. Women genuinely think these men aren't outside of their league. What is the thinking behind a woman doing this? OLD is low effort so why not? It's obvious that typing up a message is way easier than losing weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:00 PM
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I did. When you use the words "not a good look for feminists" can be interpreted two ways. Either the data and the overall state of the society relates to DV doesn't look good to them because it's not compatible with the ideology OR they just want to appear like they are achieving the ideology. Hence your suggestion of them manipulating the data tells me that you believe it's more a virtue signaling label than an actual ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:48 PM
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it likely means that domestic violence also shot up -- not a good look for the feminists, so they would naturally try to hide it. You claimed that feminists solved DV problems and they are hiding data like some conspiracy. That is not their stance. Just because an ideology has a goal doesn't mean they accomplished that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:10 PM
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OP doesn't seem to understand the point of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:31 AM
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If your potential partner treats everyone except you poorly Many romanticize this arrangement. Gives them the illusion of being special.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:24 AM
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Preselection definitely affects women. When I see a man who I initially disregarded attract other women, it forces me to reevaluate him just to figure out what others see in him. This can lead me to understand the attraction or scratch my head then disregard him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:58 AM
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but apparently, they’re too young to consent to a relationship with someone older? Where does this logic come from? It's pretty obvious. Women had enough bad experiences with older men that it became common knowledge that age gap relationships are a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:17 PM
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Exactly. OP is pretty transparent about just looking for reasons to put it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:55 PM
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Does the Chad numbers make enough of an impact on how representative the average is? What's the standard deviation? References?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:43 PM
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Inconvenient truth: Men need 💰 💰 💰 to either attract western women or travel to find non-western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:41 AM
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It's fathers that are less likely to be violent towards their children. I'm talking about what society is desensitized to. Male suicide and male violence by themselves and combined are extremely high. People's brains don't naturally pick up the nuance of statistical technicalities. You are giving them too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:01 AM
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It sounds like you are talking about regular filicides. Which I don't doubt mothers commit more than fathers. The OP's topic is about murder-suicide so I looked into murder-suicide. I think it's rather unfair of you to accuse me of cherry picking data when I'm simply sticking with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:26 AM
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Cherry pick data to prove what? Idk whether you are questioning me with an anti male bias or anti female bias. Can you be more clear about measuring the parenting time? Are you suggesting that women spend more time with kids and they are less likely to kill the kids mean they are safer? Or fathers are not given more time with kids that they don't develop the bond to not kill them? Are there any data in filicides cases about who the kids lives with that I'm missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:50 PM
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Men commit more filicide-suicides than women. Society is sadly a bit desensitized by male suicide and male initiated violence due to how common it is. A women doing it is more rare hence the people look more into the whys. It's a bit of a chicken or the egg question. Do society care less about male suicide because it happens more often or are male suicide caused by society not caring about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:11 AM
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Sleazy men are swiping right on all women. It has nothing to do with the quality of her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:49 PM
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The Graduate came out in 1967. Dating older women is not a new concept. It's a fun experiment and most men will end up dating women their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:15 AM
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We don't truly know how people will react to something until you tell them. I don't think revealing strange harmless kinks is a requirement in relationships. But since this guy wanted to reveal it then I say a year into the relationship is a good time to bring it up in case it's a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:17 AM
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So he wants to be more open about it? Wasn't he afraid that it was going to leak out?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:01 AM
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In the initial stage of dating, it's good to believe that the other person is involved with someone else in some way. It keeps your ego in check and prevents you from assuming things are getting serious without a conversation about each others intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:33 PM
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That doesn't mean they stayed in the relationship. The relationship could have started off non-abusive and they left when it became one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:57 PM
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It's really frustrating when words used in professional fields get abused by people trying to appear smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:22 PM
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Can't one make the opposite argument? That the court system is purposely fucking up so the cases can get appealed and reserved to free the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:43 PM
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No man looks across the room and say "Wow! Look at that woman's personality!" Her looks will always be the first thing a man will notice. He can simply not pay attention or dig more into other things about her because he has no interest in a relationship at that point in his life. His willful ignorance doesn't automatically make her low value (her clamoring for his commitment will). Two people can simply not be a match and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:25 PM
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they have higher standards for whom they let into their close circle relationships or partnerships. Agree. Most men don't give their commitment out like candy like others suggest here. So, it is not just vetting, need to step up the game and be "your type's type". Agree if a woman has a particular type in mind for a commitment. But this is about avoiding situationships which involves paying attention to whether men are being purposely ambiguous to string her along or straight up honest about not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:14 PM
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Also many offers just to have sex and get into situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:38 PM
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Exactly. No woman is immune to situationships. Everyone has a lane to stick to maximize their relationship potential through vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:34 PM
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This is a common misconception that men have that HVW don't have to vet. People have moments in life where they are not interested in a relationship. This is regardless of how much of a catch someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:22 PM
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Sounds more like post nut clarity to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:01 PM
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2) Most men view most women only as a sexual option. Women who don't find themselves in many situationships just vet better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:14 PM
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I saw a woman using her paddle board to save someone in the news a couple days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:59 PM
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The exceptions are on issues that she doesn't much care about. So there are things that women will accept that are not deal breakers? If the man doesn't like it, he will eventually have to give in, or the relationship will end. So these women have deal breakers. Sounds like all relationships regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:31 AM
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I think it's an unrealistic request.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:22 PM
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How can a man opt out of parenthood if we don't know he is going to have a child? We know that whatever child is born will be the mother's because it's literally coming out of her body. She could have been sleeping with multiple men when conception happened. Properly identifying the father in the earlier stages of pregnancy is not a simple procedure. Legally the supposed father doesn't even have to interact with the mother after sex. He could block her phone number. Until a child exists that req…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:58 PM
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Isn't that what some people in the US want to pull? Do you agree with this? I don't think this is brilliant and will only set back both men and women. I disagree with people getting rid of birth control all together. It's bodily autonomy to choose to get a vasectomy or take pills. Just like abortions. Yes I agree it will set men and women back. Hmm... didn't stop us from finding ways to help women. But for some reason... it has to be only for women... Why would there be any reason to stop us fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:31 AM
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Unless you say as soon as men decide to have sex then they decide to be a parent then I think we should apply the same to women. What is stopping someone from using this logic to ban condoms and pills? The risks are known before the act of sex. I think it sucks that women can die from medical complications from pregnancies. I'm not going to urge the government to execute men who impregnated these women out of fairness. There is no other situation out there where one is given a loophole to benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:45 PM
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because of this we socially enforce rules The word socially and biologically have two different meanings. Nothing is stopping my kid from playing street hockey with the other kids in the neighborhood regardless of gender. If men have no say in abortion, why can we not enact policies to mitigate this unfairness? Get rid of child support for men that don't want the child, it's not that hard at all. Because child support is a legal requirement for both the mother and father. Abortion is birth contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:49 PM
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Someone else pointed this out. Child support, segregation in sports, affirmative action and maternity leave are all cultural and political. There is nothing biological preventing the two sexes playing a sport together. There is nothing biological preventing anyone from committing infanticide. Birth control is unequal based on biology. Men have an easier time controlling where their sperm goes due to being able to physically see it and literally able to aim. Women have birth control pills because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:24 PM
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Women are typically told their looks and youth are the only things that are valued at PPD. All individuals with healthy self esteems believe that personality matters. What you described isn't typically the reason why a woman get upset at a male friend having feelings for her. It's vulture like behavior that's upsetting after the woman goes through with a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:21 PM
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I spoke to a friend who's very beautiful and she told me about how she had to make the first move to bag her current bf Oh boo hoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:16 AM
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I like this answer. It's unfortunate that other men don't and prefer to believe that it's some massive inequality/hypocrisy/manipulation against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:54 PM
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create sexual tension that can enhance future intimate interaction when you are ready. There are men who won't appreciate this. They might find blue balls frustrating and feel like they are being strung along.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 04:15 PM
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Not all shirtless men are in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:33 PM
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So your friends display this preference openly? Sounds like they are being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:12 PM
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And yet in private, when they see a ripped guy with six pack abs on Bumble, they will instantly swipe right because that's what they're instinctively attracted to Can you link the study? Because the few studies that pop on the search engines show opposite findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:03 PM
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Maybe taking her out to a mexican restaurant wasn't a good idea. Imagine bean farts and bloated rice bellies. Sexyyyyyy.....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:08 AM
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This isn’t about entitlement; it’s about equality and respect. It's neither. If someone is not in the mood for sex then they are not in the mood for sex. In my own experience, women who’ve been genuinely attracted and invested in me have been more likely to offer sex early on, including on the first date. So you had positive experiences with women who didn't put out after the first date? Moreover, changing my mindset to prioritize women who reciprocate interest early has significantly improved m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:42 AM
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Then why do courts provide the tests? Why are you bringing it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:55 AM
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The courts will not accept non court provided tests Because fuck men right? Lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:52 AM
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The reason why a third party (the court) chooses the lab to test the DNA is to make sure there is no manipulation of evidences to commit fraud. If I believe that a woman is capable of lying to me that a child is mine to collect my resources then I would not trust her to choose the lab to test the DNA. If I believe that a man is trying to skip out on his responsibilities to the child then I would not trust him to choose the lab to test the DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:47 AM
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Let's just keep ignoring the overwhelming common experiences young women have with dating significantly older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:40 AM
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Women should be more open to paternity tests. But nothing is stopping men from doing it (except France).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:35 AM
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Would you trust the DNA testing company that the mother specifically chooses?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:32 AM
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I agree with you that men need to learn to be attractive. It's just a waste of energy to be all pissy about waiting a couple of dates to bang a woman. You're banging her! Enjoy it! If one is dissatisfied it's more their fault than the woman for buyers remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:46 PM
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I find it super weird to measure how long one had to wait. There really isn't that much difference between a week and a month. Do people not have other stuff going on in their lives? Family drama? Stress from work? Sickness? Homework? I'm not fucking on my menstrual cycle. Sometimes I had weird instances where multiple guys were trying to talk to me at the same time and it was overwhelming as hell. I'm not jumping in bed with multiple men around the same time. When a man is in such a hurry to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:05 PM
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The proposal is just as much an experience for the men. Their preferences should be taken into calculation as well. Men should be communicating to do their part to manage expectations. The relationship sets the tone for the marriage. The proposal and the bracelet were probably the last straw among a long string of events where their desires and wishes being disregarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:33 PM
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Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the correction! I removed my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:17 AM
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Mike Pence made the following statement. “I don’t work with women. If they’re attractive, I’m too tempted. And if they’re not attractive, what’s the point?” I'm glad the guy refuses to work with women. He can't trust himself if he is tempted and if he isn't tempted he views them as worthless. At least for his case it doesn't seem to be avoiding any false allegations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:13 AM
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It's frustrating on how the fuck they think it's equal rights for them to be able to sever their responsibility toward an existing child on a whim. Women can't create a child, throw the child at the father and refuse to pay child support. But they think they should be able to? All because women don't need to support a child that doesn't exist? It's fucking crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:14 PM
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Even if abortions were to be banned, the idiotic men who wish to be absolved of any responsibilities could make the same argument about birth control. "Oh well women are able to prevent pregnancy by using birth control pills and plan b pills. We men don't have that specific option due to not having a uterus. IT'S UNFAIR! Hence we should be able to choose not be responsible over any children we contributed genetic material to create."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:42 PM
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Whenever people are rating others most of the time it's based on their personal taste and not an estimate of how well the ratee will do in the general marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:40 PM
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He was assigned with me on a temp work project from a different company for a month. He refused to go out to any social gatherings that had women there. No small talk while we worked. All discussions were purely just work. Someone pulled me aside and asked me whether I was comfortable with him. I told them yes and got an explanation that he prefers to avoid women as much as possible. He mentioned to that person that it was refreshing that I was ultra focused work wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:55 PM
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I knew a guy like that. I didn't find it problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:41 PM
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The ratio of choice to cost should always be 1:1. And that is unrealistic due to biological inequality. The cost will never be equal even with financial abortion in the picture. If women get total say in deciding whether or not a child is born after conception then I feel that the responsibility for dealing with that should then be theirs unless the father wants to opt in. What if the father just can't opt in at all? The fact remains, the child in most cases wouldn't be there without the mother'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:25 AM
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Have you read your own post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:42 AM
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Sure, you can "want" the top tier people, but you can't afford them The premise is off. There is no tier group in BP world. BP believe that every individual is an unique person who needs to find someone just as unique who is compatible with them. Naturally 80% of the people are just not going to cut it. Not even 99%. You are working with a completely different construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:24 AM
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The further you go down the study shows Among this subpopulation, a minority of respondents learned new information about their first-degree or second-degree relatives, such as that a person they believed to be their biological parent is not their biological parent (n = 646; 3% of total sample) OP is still wrong with their interpretation though. A father lying to their child about being related was a common occurrence back in the day. The average age of participants in the study were in their 60…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:34 AM
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It's not wise to come to a broad conclusion about marriage based on one variable. A good chuck of marriages (45% in the United States in 2022) had either both earn about the same or the wife be the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:34 PM
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So your take is that the MeToo movement created a cultural undercurrent of disrespect towards men which years later caused men to strike back. I disagree, it's the other way around. Men created a cultural undercurrent of disrespect towards women. Men were already on the current path. MeToo is just the first of many reactionary movements that will go viral in our connected society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:25 PM
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Most of these men typically cheat before leaving their wives. They keep the wives around until they line up a new woman. These unnecessary actions are what society demonize.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:47 PM
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I don't really like her advice but it doesn't suggest to take good men for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:23 PM
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Alot have to deal with the economic background one is born into and what is socially considered the norm. The single mothers that I personally know had mothers who raised them alone. Even the average guy makes $50k-$65k a year low effort. There was a question that was asked in a college class I took. The teacher gave each of us a slip asking what we think an average annual salary is. The teacher then revealed all the answers to us. The lowest was $32K and the highest was $140K. Idk where you liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:00 AM
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"Relationships are transactional" mentality are pretty common within men at PPD. Some people just can't afford to be vulnerable when it comes to love. Passion is a luxury to many.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:45 PM
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Passion is strong powerful emotion. If one is the type who have a hard time regulating those types of emotions, passion can turn toxic which is detrimental for a stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:34 AM
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due to getting into a relationship out of social pressure. Isn't that a way bigger problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:42 AM
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if I'm satisfied with the quality of our relationship, it doesn't matter how he well he treated his ex. This right here. Maybe she wants a lukewarm relationship as well? Hence she is engaged to him? A crazy wild passionate ones might be nice in the short term but have problems in the long term that she wants to avoid?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:37 AM
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I'll see this as the first step in a boiling frog scenario. What's gonna be the next demand or he leaves? My bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:33 PM
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So he is being robbed of the time he could have with a woman who genuinely loved him. How is this exclusive from a woman who has marriage as a goal? So it can be done in a way that is not traumatic or bad. It's bad when done intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:01 PM
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It's way too easy to accuse women of satisfying hypergamy because of how nebulous it is. There are so many ways that a man can be attractive. It's easy for someone to see a beautiful woman/ugly man couple and assume that the man has money, funny, big dick, etc to explain the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:11 AM
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It's related to my first comment. The one you responded to...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:55 AM
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Because only men can have trouble with their sexuality and affects their relationships. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:54 AM
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I don't. Shame around sex is a common phenomenon. In cultures where words like whore or slut exist with negative connotations, it's not a stretch of the imagination that some women may avert it in their relationships. before you say it I'm not. you are not in the room with them Yeah because that would be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:42 AM
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Below is a quote from Sigmund Freud. "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." I think some women have their own Maddona/Whore complex. They can't feel loved and be sexual at the same time. Sex is a disgrading act that one should feel ashamed of and there is no place for that in a relationship or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:46 AM
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Yes, this doesn't specify to be only physical, verbal attacks exist and are linked pretty much to a condescending behaviour. Explaining something in a condescending manner may be frustrating or hurtful, but it doesn't qualify as a verbal attack. The word attack carry a stronger connotation. There is nuance to English that you are missing that is unnecessarily polarizing the topic for you. What? Watch the video in my first comment to you. Click on the hyperlink. Because, the term is sexist by its…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:28 AM
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Look up the definition for vulnerablity. It means susceptibility to attack or injury, the state or condition of being weak or poorly defended. You think the female pro golfer was weak in the video? She was susceptible to an "attack" by an annoying loser who been "playing for 20 years?" No one will watch that video and think "vulnerability". But what makes you think that the same person wouldn’t target someone with autism or a person of a different race or nationality? That's called ableism and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:46 AM
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Don’t you think condescending people will target anyone they perceive as vulnerable, rather than it being rooted in a specific hatred for women? It has nothing to do with vulnerability. Condescension happens when one acts like another person is inferior to them. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what mansplaining is. It not a hatred for women. It's assuming that because she is a woman that she lacks knowledge or skill. Men don't complain about moments when another man start explaining t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:11 AM
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Yet another "older women are just jealous" post. It's real simple. Many women had terrible experiences with dating older men. This includes women who are still young. When a group collectively notice a negative pattern with something that something typically becomes stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:53 AM
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You are just making excuses for average women's inflated egos/expectations. But men are throwing themselves at women. Men can't "inflate" the value of women and get pikachu faced that women start believing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:49 PM
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How is this post be debatable? There is no content. It's a bunch of broad accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:28 PM
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for some reason making laws based on people's gender is seen as not biased. Laws protecting people's bodily autonomy is not gendered. If a man can get pregnant he would be able to get an abortion too. I don't know what argument you are trying to make here. You made a comparison between men acting sexual reckless due to zero incentives not to with women acting sexual reckless due to ability to get an abortion instead of using an IUD. Abortion is not an easy thing to get. The comparison is inaccur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:47 AM
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A minority of men A minority of men can do alot of damage. Alot of laws are created because a minority of people are terrible. that women want abortion just because they're too lazy to get an IUD. Yes that's a ridiculous statement but abortion is a lot harder than just making a statement "I don't want to be a father who financially support a child." In fact women can rape men in the US, then sue the man they raped for child support, and if the man doesn't pay child support to the woman who raped…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:13 PM
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describe is not financial abortion The basic premise is to be able establish that financial support will be denied to a child before the child is born. How could this not describe financial abortion? Most PPD user who are for financial abortion don't going to detail on how it works and how it's implemented in a practical sense. before having casual sex This is the problem I have with this topic. Sex, procreation, and abortion happens within LTRs and marriages as well. The debate is often narrowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:03 PM
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Since they don't go through the physical aspect of pregnancy, they have zero incentives to prevent unwanted pregnancies. I'm worried about the men who want kids without the responsibilities. Women can safely abandon their responsibilities as a parent after birth through safe havens but incentivized not to abuse the system because of how traumatic pregnancy is on the body. Men? They can go around impregnating a bunch of women at the same time and promise support only to pull the financial abortio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:41 PM
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I'm trying to think of any man who fits this description. People typically don't know the development that another person went through to get to the point of the attractive level that person achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:55 PM
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But he said "LOL!" He wants your attention. You can't be indifferent to him and his actions. You'll hurt his feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:50 PM
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Speedy marriage. Older men are more likely willing to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:51 PM
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The man may wonder if all of those previous casual intimate encounters she had with other men, means that she fundamentally views love and intimacy differently than he does. A woman with the same level of sexual experiences can view love and intimacy differently as well. She is a whole different person with different experiences (education, culture, economic, etc) outside of the bedroom as the opposite sex. Of course she is fundamentally different. Is the love that she has for him, different in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:11 AM
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