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| – | Your survival rate during life-threatening emergencies or critical incidents directly correlates to the number of biological men on the scene.Absolutely not. Back in Europe I used to volunteer as an EMT/Paramedic on ambulances. We were mixed teams, professionals and volunteers, men and women, and while we didn’t have things like school shootings we were particularly active with car accidents. Women were in no way less performant than men, be that CPR or first aid, nor they were more disturbed by the splatter scenes we had to endure. True, they might not have been the strongest on the field, but that’s what the burly firefighters were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 01:41 AM |
| 0 | Many women want to be liberated feminists and trad conservatives at the same timeAs her cretinously proud flair suggests, most likely hooligans, chavs and such, a.k.a. “gammons”. Lowlives that think the empire is still a thing, get trashed to the point of passing out in their own barf on the sidewalk (pahdon ma’am, the “pavement”) smash a pint of ale in your face if god forbid you make eye contact with them and call you a f*g if you dare asking about how they’re doing. I am the crepuscular artist type and I received a lot of attention from gay men, and I found that flatterin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 10:09 PM |
| 7 | Both men and women who want to be strict about condoms are kind of screwed in the dating world.LOL, I was writing “STD” in my comment but had the same thought and “modernized” it, then I saw your comment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 09:49 PM |
| 5 | Both men and women who want to be strict about condoms are kind of screwed in the dating world.I am a blood donor and very health aware. I was a teenager in the 1990s, when AIDS was a major topic (I cried for days when Freddie died), never in life I had casual sex without protection. Yes, the pleasure is not the same, but to be honest, a little dial down to my ungodly drive wasn’t necessarily a bad thing. I even turned down an ONS for not having protections with me (and got called a f*g for it) - wasn’t expecting to hookup that night, learned my lesson and never left home without afterwar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 09:46 PM |
| 16 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"Not the whole, but a big part. And I wouldn’t underestimate the amount of those who silently condone misandry. Those who disgust me the most are those who say “we were oppressed so now it’s our time to make you suffer!1!1!!”, tarring with the same brush also men willing to be allies, but “guilty” for the mere fact of being XY. I wouldn’t normally care much, but I am watching carefully, since the day my son came back from a summer camp saying “he wish he was a girl”, because one of the instructor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 03:52 PM |
| 2 | How much do you think your car matters for dating as a man?It really depends. There’s plenty of people for which a car is a means for going from A to B. Back in Europe, at times I didn’t even have a car because I didn’t need it, and most people in my circles, men and women alike, did everything with a bike or public transportation, rain or shine. That had no impact whatsoever on dating, in fact, biking on the mountains was one of the most common dating activities. I also had expensive - but not flashy - cars, but I never did it for “status”, and the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 03:31 PM |
| 6 | Male mental health and victim blamingWhat is even more terrifying is that they motivate it as “we have been oppressed ever since, now it’s our turn for revenge” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 05:59 AM |
| 3 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?More than “southern”, I’d say suburban. Some young, educated and progressive (and just to clarify: I am European, very progressive and not “pilled” in any color) employees of a branch of my company in the north still tend to overdo with foundation, same goes with a large number of acquaintances from many other areas. My own circle consists mostly of international professionals but the Americans who are part of it are much better traveled than the average and way more fashion aware | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?Yep. Still, your average ‘murrican lady can learn a thing or two from her counterpart from Milan or Paris, where tasteful make-up has been in fashion ever since | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 03:03 PM |
| 0 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?I personally prefer light make up. The amount of foundation American women cake their faces with reminds that of an opera clown. I know “natural look” ≠ “no make up”, and it takes a lot of work, anyway, learning some finesse from European counterparts (which in change could learn something about dental improvements) wouldn’t be bad. And again, it also depends on the complexion, on the skin, but also on the style: it’s not the amount, but the result. As per surgery, it depends. I am fine with cor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 01:56 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.Oh, I have no doubt. I mistakenly assumed you were english, as you interjected with that dumbass comment, but I don’t expect a MAGAtard having a clue what happens past the border of their county | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 11:36 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Males like women who stress them out?I agree with “no time for bullshit”, but I would rephrase “bringing peace of mind” with “not altering my peace of mind”. I consider myself relatively successful (tech executive, accomplished musician, published writer, sommelier, polyglot, polymath, former triathlete, expert alpinist, skier and more), I however endured some major personal troubles, which I was able to overcome, reaching my own self-sufficiency and peace of mind. Having been in a very dark place myself, I am very compassionate wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 10:29 PM |
| 4 | Why do men crave romantic interest so much?Yes, the “cat lady” prophecy is akin to religious anathemas: an empty treat, getting more ludicrous the more time goes by. Women don’t depend financially on men anymore, and emotionally they haven’t for a long time. Women create and cherish their friendship circles and are used to share more about their emotions with them, something men are used only to do with their partners, which often bring to other misunderstandings, with men mistaking a platonic friendship from a woman as romantic interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 08:47 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.Just look elsewhere. There is nothing else you can reasonably do. Scant attires are here to stay (at least in the west), if they upset you, the best you can do is learn to filter them out of your sight… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 07:21 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.Oh, the places I went to were different from those drunken chavettes seem to frequent. Got assaulted by EDL friends of yours while defending my Pakistani roommate in the East End | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 06:40 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.If you play the posh card (“bri’ish” 🤣) like you’re some sophisticated dame from Downton Abbey, some teasing is in order, ma’am | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 05:09 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.Rich coming from those who came up with abominations like the “white man’s burden” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 05:02 PM |
| – | Women over sexualize themselves and punishment for looking.“You risk him walking over”. In that cesspool cuntry of yours perhaps - In my time there I witnessed firsthand the “pint smashed in the face” scene, which I first thought it was a Trainspotting exaggeration, but it’s actually commonplace there in gammonia. In civilized places without apemen like chavs, hooligans and gammons there is no need to resort to violence. I agree with the rest. Staring is a bad habit that has to stop, but I am fairly confident it will go away as society progresses, like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 04:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The proposal sets the tone for the marriageThere’s west and west. Agree that your country, with brexshitter gammons and their kin often acts a lot like a wannabe ‘murrica. The continent tends to be less materialistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 05:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The proposal sets the tone for the marriageI didn’t propose. Wife and I had been living together for several years, we decided together to “formalize”. Had wedding dinner with our closest relatives only, and no honey moon. Curious, what could this “tell” about us as a couple? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 04:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The proposal sets the tone for the marriage‘Murrican women are, for a big part, materialistic, capricious, spoiled brats, shallower than a puddle of dog piss | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 03:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The proposal sets the tone for the marriageEurodude here. I didn’t propose. We decided together to get married, no diamond as she doesn’t care about jewelry. Married ever since with wonderful 4-lingual kids, spending money for frequent trips back to our home countries in Europe (both top tourist destinations) where we plan to go back to retire early once we’re done making money in the US. I know several ‘murrican women, dangling their 6-figures stones to the four winds with the prodigious nouveau-riche vulgarity that distinguishes them w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 03:41 PM |
| – | Why do unattractive cis men automatically assume that trans women want them? These are ugly guysSimply transphobia. Same with homophobia: I can’t count how many southern European/middle-eastern machista fucktards used to make retarded jokes about not dropping stuff in front of homosexuals, as if a fit, athletic, well-kept gay guy would ever be interested in short, paunchy, hairy, illiterate untermenschen as ugly as sin. Fortunately things have started to change, but some overreligious medieval shitholes will need more time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/24 03:03 PM |
| 27 | It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them.Only spoiled arseholes would debate this, suggesting “breadless” people to go for cake. Debate aside, it would be beneficial to Cut the hallmark bs: there’s no Jill for every Jack out there. More and more people will end up unpaired Destigmatize loneliness: nobody is a “loser” for not being paired and nobody should be made feel as such Still don’t dare tell people how to live their lives. One can even make the best of their condition, with hobbies, interests, volunteering and whatnot and still b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 08:45 PM |
| – | Money & status is outdated advice in 2025I am a Western European naturalized American living in the US, things are quite different here, even if women make their own money. The degree of consumerism and shallow showoff is intoxicating here, so while I agree with your point of view, it does not hold entirely true everywhere. To give you an idea, I descend from a line of marquises but my family is not overly rich and I despise ostentation. Back in Europe I happened to dine in castles, but also to be beaten during social rights rallies (y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Men and loveIn my experience several left in front of the bleeding wound, but others were able to tolerate the scar. I had a couple relationships while I was in a very bad place, some of those girls were genuinely willing to help, but it was the early 2000s, Europe was living its most carefree moment and 20-somethings’ biggest worry was to pick a Greek island for their summer vacation. Young people were not exactly equipped to deal with darkness and they ran for their lives as soon as they faced it. One thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 06:51 PM |
| 6 | Would you date an Ai with a real human body?I work in robotics and partially with AI/LLMs. Most of what is nowadays trumpeted as “AI” is a “stochastic parrot” or, more prosaically, utter bullshit, incapable of “reasoning” in the cartesian way, let alone of “interest”. Because I’ve been in numerous equal relationships in which we “shared the bills” while having plentiful intimacy, many of which relationships were initiated by the lady (I am not much of a “hunter”) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 05:06 AM |
| 4 | Would you date an Ai with a real human body?I would not, but I wouldn’t pay for sex either. I simply can’t fathom the idea of someone (or something) hanging out with me without being genuinely interested in who I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:47 AM |
| 5 | Men and loveI don’t believe in god or any supernatural entity. I am a suicide survivor, and while I no longer hate myself to the point of self destruction, I am not sure I will ever be able to really “love” myself. However, I am most certainly self-sufficient, which I guess is what is meant here with “being one”. I could say I “coexist” with myself in a sustainable way, and I have a number of interests so vast that I couldn’t be unfulfilled even wanting. As per the question: I didn’t seek love. In my case i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:34 AM |
| 6 | How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship?Thank you. We’re far from perfect, but we have been working non stop (it’s a never ending process) to find our common ground. At the end “masculinity” was never really a topic. The women who loved me did it for what I am. I was bullied as a kid for my interests, but I could never move away from my multifaceted nature. My favorite game with partners has always been to first share my dainty, controlled (feminine?) side in conversations, and then, at the right time unleash the drive my ungodly high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 04:30 PM |
| 10 | How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship?There is no blanket answer to this. I am an engineer, but also a trained musician and humanist at heart. I play classical music, write poetry, enjoy art history, fashion and fine dining, and I don’t care of “manly” stuff like watching sports. I am good with everything electrical and electronic, but never been into mechanics. For me a car is a means to go from A to B (but I did enjoy driving 180 mph on a German Autobahn). Wife loves mounting furniture, I am better at woodworking. She’s good at ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.Thank you. I think it’s just decency, unfortunately those who lie about their motives give the rest a bad name. I am confident that transparency will become more common with time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.I’ve always said what I was up to. I enjoyed a short lived player (hoe?) phase, but I was always upfront about it, even with those who would have desired more. Some, knowing ONS/FWB were all I would give accepted that, I guess a couple still kept respectfully pushing for more but got along. I never lied my way inside anyone’s panties | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 03:46 PM |
| 9 | Women who are saying they are not interested in a suitor, are not withholding/concealing anything, they are just being nice.You overthink it. Not all men are psychos willing to be mad at you. Some just want to know if the reason why can be fixed or not. Sure, if one is ugly without remedy there is not much he can do, and that ask might be naive, but if he’s overweight that could be a good push to get his shit together. There are many stories of guys that got rejected for being chubby and socially awkward, channeled their frustration into fitness, got buff, confident and improved their success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:46 PM |
| 9 | Women who are saying they are not interested in a suitor, are not withholding/concealing anything, they are just being nice.The problem is the formulaic approach to attraction. The idea, that if a men does x and y he will get z. Hence why so many are mad that hobbies, cleaning up their act, hitting the gym was fruitless: we live in a meritocratic society where, in most cases work provides a reward. There is nothing meritocratic in attraction: one could be the best person in the world, but if his love interest isn’t attracted she will decline. Asking for more details is a naive attempt at searching for “what I did wro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:32 PM |
| – | We should embrace the fact that relationships are transactional for them to succeed.The only unconditional love is for one’s kids. In a relationship everyone has to do their part to make it work. There is no textbook definition about what such “part” is, but it’s better to agree upon it sooner than later or else the relationship won’t last. Too many people, taking their partner for granted begin to slack off, show little care or worse. I wouldn’t call it “transactional”, it’s just what it takes. “Love” (or attraction, infatuation or horniness) won’t last long otherwise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 04:27 PM |
| 11 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menLike every movement there are people who abuse the term. I have no problem with “true” feminists whose goal is equality. I am convinced that a society without category-based (be that gender, religion, national origin, etc.) privileges would function for everyone. My problem is with those self-styled feminists who are just misandrist in disguise, like the asshole that told my kid that boys are stupid making he come home saying he wish he was a girl. Unfortunately the number of “male tears” drinki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 04:34 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADLike every movement there are people who abuse the term. I have no problem with “true” feminists whose objective is equality. My problem is with those self-styled feminists who are just misandrist in disguise, like the asshole that told my kid that boys are stupid making he come home saying he wish he was a girl. Unfortunately the number of “male tears” drinking cretins is so big that those who don’t know better conflate them with the decent ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:29 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADDo you think your work life will be impacted if she declines? Many years ago I opened myself to a colleague I had a huge crush on. She declined very gently, and our work relationship actually improved. She was very nice to me afterwards. But I know of guys that were rejected unkindly, adding insult to injury, and couldn’t stand the workspace anymore. Best of luck whatever you decide | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?In my line of work there is no wage gap. If a person is not getting paid what they are worth, they are either bad at negotiating or maybe not worth as much as they think they are. Regardless of their gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:01 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADPlease, don’t give up. Don’t let a single moment dictate your future | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:38 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADWhat a woman does with her body is her business and hers only. For how much I love curves, I would never have my say about that, whatever the reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:34 AM |
| 13 | Do you think that creepiness is subjective or objective?I guess there is the behavior and the perception thereof. A relaxed guy who stalks his crush has a creepy behavior but doesn’t look creepy A stiff, socially inept guy (especially with scruffy looks) unable to read the room, who asks an unapt question out of mere clumsiness, might come off as a creep while not being one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:27 AM |
| 3 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?I lead an engineering team. In my career I hired dozens of people and interviewed hundreds, both in Europe and in the US, but the candidates were from all continents. Never was gender, sexual orientation or ethnicity in the way. Not even the alma fucking mater ‘murricans masturbate about: I paid eastern European mathematicians more than pampered ivy leaguers, because they were better. I put a Bangladeshi lady in charge of a team of five men mechatronics engineers, and paid her top dollar for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesI always loved being pursued, perhaps it’s an ego thing, and in my case, if I was into the lady who pursued me the relationship grew really strong. I felt safe giving all of myself because I already had proof of wild interest towards me: if I don’t feel desired that much I don’t feel like opening myself beyond FWB. I can initiate things, but if the response isn’t fully enthusiastic, I don’t try to force it further | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 11:31 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesIt’s how they deal with it. Surely unreciprocated attraction and bridled sex drive are painful, but at a certain point a man needs not to be dominated by them, for his own sanity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Which pill has had the most success in dating?MDMA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 11:15 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesI don't think anything can be done to change things abruptly. It will be a long adjustment, but I can imagine it will slowly happen Women will feel more comfortable actively pursuing men they are interested in. It's already happening and in some places like northern Europe is not uncommon Men will recognize women's agency and reduce outdated chivalrous customs or worse, simping However, for men women are not attracted to, things won't change: they will still not be pursued, and if they will purs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Neither gender is more socially skilledSome would like to have a relaxed discussion, but the discourse is far too weaponized | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 09:21 PM |
| 4 | Neither gender is more socially skilledIt's just a misandrist rant at this point. Using uneducated men to throw all men under the bus, and then, when called out about the blanket statement, clutching at straws deflecting by shifting to other categories and accusing others of doxing. Pathetic. And more pathetic, is that I am a vocal advocate of women in STEM, I make very clear to my team that I will fire anyone not behaving properly on the spot, to then be hysterically attacked by people which might agree with me in principle, but hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Neither gender is more socially skilledNot really in the NE. And the SE is a redneck shithole. <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 08:28 PM |
| 7 | Neither gender is more socially skilledYou explicitly said more than once that you are in the bible belt, I take that at face value (unless you made this up), not asking you to doxx yourself. As per nerds, the lady is also a badass musician with a great fan base, certainly not unpopular. The antisocial nerd trope is a bit 1980s ‘murrican b-movie. I would assume you know better, by the (delightful) way you express yourself, but I guess you enjoy trolling, you do you. Top class (big 4 and above) engineers have lots of fun nowadays and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 08:18 PM |
| 9 | Neither gender is more socially skilledYep, using white trash mechanics from some underdeveloped backwater county as a benchmark. Meanwhile my head roboticist is a woman and commands 50+ yo engineers as well as mechanics and electricians, and no one bats an eye. I know you don’t give a shit about what I say, but if you keep on AMALTing based on lowlifes you won’t appreciate where things are improving, because they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:04 PM |
| 1 | The friendship paradoxI agree and I think it’s a major point. There will be more and more people who will never experience romance and intimacy in the future. And before the howling monkeys around here get all psyched, it goes without saying that no forced dating can, shall, and will be enforced ever in the future, even thinking of it is ridiculous. I think the societal discourse must be changed a lot, insisting that Being not attractive doesn’t make one a lesser human being Not being in a relationship doesn’t make o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 03:15 AM |
| 1 | The friendship paradoxA lot in the sub, perhaps, the statistical relevance thereof tends to sweet FA. Out there, especially in civilized countries (and at times I doubt the US are one), it’s more and more the norm. AMALTing is getting boring | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 02:53 AM |
| – | The Bait-and-Switch women and blupillers pull here is insaneThose who tell you not to be disheartened are just entitled assholes without the smallest hint of understanding. You have all the right to be disheartened and angry, the only suggestion one might have, if you can, to avoid this from becoming a cycle: rejection > disheartening > more rejection > more disheartening. Easier said than done, I know. It’s clear you have it tough. No one should disrespect you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Wasn’t implying you should. No partner has to do the therapist work. One should never look for a relationship from a place of need or despair. They have to fix themselves first | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 01:54 PM |
| 8 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.What makes you sure? I am curious. I am not pilled in any color, nor I am an incel, but the “you’ll find someone” bs is annoying for anyone rational. It’s cheap magical thinking. No, there is no Jill for every Jack out there. Some of us will be alone forever, because that’s how life is. Back to the post, cutting the Hallmark bs and educating people to the importance of self-sufficiency might help reducing some of the current resentment, possibly not with the arrogance of those who have sex on ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: is it normal for a guy to feel insecure if he discovers that his partner uses toys?I can guarantee it’s where “it’s going”. Gender role awareness is changing, slowly but surely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 02:03 AM |
| 1 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?Spot on. I am impressed (a bit more like Ščedrin and Plisetskaya perhaps) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 12:05 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: is it normal for a guy to feel insecure if he discovers that his partner uses toys?No, I wouldn’t feel insecure. However I’d try to find out, if she uses them because I am not doing my part as a lover, and then I’d try to see if the gap can be bridged from my part as a complement to our sex life, then I’d like to know if she fancies me being part of the game. If not it’s fine, I also enjoy some “me time” every now and then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 12:01 AM |
| 2 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?I love elegance. Not in the sense of expensive clothing, in terms of posture, gestures, tone of voice - like in "coming to America", one can look like a princess when mopping a floor, another like a hobo even sporting a Chanel dress. I love calmness in the form of zanshin. Few things turn me on like reciprocally exuding assertive calmness and then surrender in each other arms. I enjoy a "hard to get" if the person is worth it, meaning I am glad to prove my value and don't expect instant interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 11:22 PM |
| 3 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?History of my life. I was abused verbally (sometimes physically) every day of my childhood and teenage years. I had to do a lot of reprogramming not to snap myself, especially with my kids. It's tough to build patience out of thin air if no one ever had patience with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 10:34 PM |
| 1 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?I hate a bald kitty, I also don’t like a landing strip too thin: I love a slightly groomed full bush, I don’t like armpit or leg hair though. I love some squish, cellulite doesn’t bother me in the least, but I love a good hip to waist ratio. I love a guitar, or even a ukulele, not a lute | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Which of these women would you date?None of this utter heap of trash. Which I think it’s the answer OP was after | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Feminists’ Definition of Coercion is too broad this is one main reason TRP is necessary.To me it sounds akin to “If it’s meant to be, it will be.” J. M. Barrie I like a southern European saying “If it’s a rose, it will bloom” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: SlumpBusters - myth? Or reality?All of this. Also, for some it’s about “adding a notch”, for some it’s a bet with friends, for some it’s a “drunken gross story” to tell, like eating the gusano at the end of the mezcal bottle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:33 PM |
| 10 | Q4M: SlumpBusters - myth? Or reality?It is absolutely true, it’s the stuff of many ONS, especially with the boost of alcohol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Been there done that. Wasn’t social anxiety, but another type of inner troubles. I am fairly attractive, but my negativity kept people at a distance. When I overcame it, I started being hit on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:15 PM |
| – | Would you rather date someone with low standards or high standards?High standards, but only if high quality. Trash bags with high standards make me laugh. Also, “high standards” culturally: highly educated (no ‘murrican meme colleges), and for the love of jupiter no nouveaux riches (like eastern European former sex workers). A cultivated person wouldn’t be high maintenance, nor they would care about how I do stuff. They would care about the result, and if they had a better process I’d be glad to learn. As per the risk of divorce, I’d rephrase: a high quality pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Question; do you judge people based on the people they have previously dated and does that give you an idea of who they are?I don’t judge. However, “the company one kept” gives me an idea of who they were at the time of the relationship. Also it really depends on the kind of relationship I am interested into, for ONS I didn’t care in the least. But considering recent relationships of her, with an LTR in mind: Absolute no A neonazi or any other radical An abusive man she tried to “rectify” An addict A scammer, fraudster, grifter A religious nutter A conspiration theorist, a flat earther, a believer of any kind of sham… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Do you think you have a healthy life experiences + objective pov balance in regards to dating that allows you to have the radical takes and way of thinking you have?I don’t look down to anyone for their mindset. Often, those who have twisted mindsets are suffering. It could be their own doing, but still they are. I volunteered with addicts for the same reason, I was insulted to a prodigious degree, but still couldn’t help but feel that suffering as part of mine. Years ago there was this colleague, insufferable, always complaining, everyone despised her, indeed she did nothing nice to anyone. Once, leaving work I spotted her crying alone in her office. A des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 09:52 PM |
| 5 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Well, quick wittedness is a plus. I am a reserved (not introvert) guy, and usually shine in long conversations. A friend of mine used to have always the right answer, and was able to get at the center of attention most of the time, which was conducive to have way more interactions. True, you can’t smooth talk your way into a relationship, but being a social catalyst increases the chances of getting in touch with potential romantic interests. And yes, one can “learn” or “fake” it, but that doesn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 09:21 PM |
| 3 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Yep. I am 7/8-lingual, but I started learning English at 11 and it was painful. My kids are already mastering effortlessly their parent’s two languages, the country language and a fourth language of the same family of one of their parents’ mother tongue. “Formative” years, as “fōrmāre” means “shaping” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Do you think you have a healthy life experiences + objective pov balance in regards to dating that allows you to have the radical takes and way of thinking you have?I am not pilled in any colors, I don’t look for formulaic approaches, I have no doubt that women are equal and have agency. At the same time, I think society must move away from Hallmark tropes (“there’s someone special out there for you”, and such bs). I had a very traumatic experience in my formative years, which informed (tainted) my Weltanschauung. I might have been “black pill adjacent” when I attempted suicide 20ish years ago, but at the time the debate was different. I recovered, and reco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Women should avoid inexperienced men.I had some personal issues that culminated in a suicide attempt. I basically lost all my teen years and a good deal of my twenties. I did a herculean work to mend myself and I got back on track as a successful adult, but with a baggage. While I had sex and romance during my lost years it was nothing close to that of a carefree western young man of the 1990s. My very first relationships after the big gap weren’t optimal, but I corrected the course and improved rapidly. This world is shitty enough… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:54 PM |
| 14 | On the dating book for women "Why men love bitches"I can handle different personalities but I certainly can’t tolerate head games, let alone those who play “hard to get”. There’s a time for puppy-like tenderness and a time for animalistic passion, a time for elegance and a time for silliness, a time to share vulnerability and a time to respect each other’s space. I am an adult, multifaceted and multidimensional, I need a string that resonates with me when plucked with all her harmonics, not a mono-dimensional being, be that a mom, a bitch, a fem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Since the music talk is now a thing, as far as taste in music, what do you consider a red and green flag?Deep question for me. I am an engineer by trade, but I am also a classically trained musician, composer, I play in a jazz band and as a session musician in a good number of pro bands. I have perfect pitch and music has been my essence since I can remember. My most intense youth relationship, goes without saying, was with a fellow musician. It was the stuff of heaven and hell together, hell because we both came from a history of abuse and had shattered personalities, heaven because, to use a chea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you rather date a smoker or an overweight woman?Not sure I follow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you rather date a smoker or an overweight woman?I wouldn’t date any woman with an unhealthy behavior of any kind, unless she proved she was on her way to fix it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you rather date a smoker or an overweight woman?I would date a smoker only if she would quit I would date an overweight woman only if she committed to go back to a healthy weight I don’t mind flaws, I care about the will to rectify them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Housework splitI get it and I agree with you. Where I am disconnected, though, is about the prevalence. Maybe I get your tone wrong, but you make it sound like what indeed was the norm until not too long ago, still is. I don’t understand whether your resentment is towards the sub (and I get it) or towards men, if the latter were the case I’d challenge you to observe that society is changing faster than one would think. I am in a niche, but I still live in the south east and am involved with fathers from all wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:24 PM |
| – | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?With this reasoning families shouldn’t adopt or take care of foster children, just because they are not “offspring”. I saw wonderful foster and stepparents raising children who were not “theirs” with love, my biological father abused me. Let the families to be set their own expectations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Housework splitNot much lecturing, more so a bit of surprise. You repeat that detail of stained underwear every other day, one gets to wonder what kind of human trash you deal with for having a chip on your shoulder that size. The statistic relevance of men in this sub is close to sweet FA, yet you speak of “men” as if we were a mass of retarded, incompetent, children. It’s natural selection: incompetent men can choose to improve or will be left behind, the good ones thrive and shine, why bother much about the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:16 PM |
| 0 | Housework splitFind. Better. Men. Do you live in a trailer park in Mississippi where men can’t wash their butt? Not even my boys in the elementary leave stained underwear | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Debate: What is more important for dating as a man: being physically attractive or being neurotypical (non-autistic or "normal": i.e. being able to naturally socially conform)ONS: one night stand FWB: friends with benefits LTR: long-term relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Debate: What is more important for dating as a man: being physically attractive or being neurotypical (non-autistic or "normal": i.e. being able to naturally socially conform)z.B., bzw., ugs., u. a., eigtl., und so weiter. Oh, Entschuldigung, “usw” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:11 PM |
| 0 | Debate: What is more important for dating as a man: being physically attractive or being neurotypical (non-autistic or "normal": i.e. being able to naturally socially conform)Intelligenti pauca | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Does men showing they have “game” work on you? Or do you prefer real conversation?One thing is a stand up comedian telling a joke they invented, after they already created a fun mood in the audience. Another is a stiff, clumsy guy who repeats that joke, perhaps with an awkward posture and a funereal facial expression. The first one is in their element, the second is like someone who drops “pick up lines”. Unnatural, out of context, cringeworthy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:01 AM |
| 8 | There's a difference between falling for a long term friend gradually, and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you.Kudos to you, sounds very considerate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:09 AM |
| 2 | Debate: What is more important for dating as a man: being physically attractive or being neurotypical (non-autistic or "normal": i.e. being able to naturally socially conform)Being attractive is necessary for ONS, FWB, LTR sufficient for ONS, and some FWB Being NT is necessary for some FWB, all LTR sufficient for nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Question For Men, Which Of These Women Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With?Not "bad" per se, if there is anyone up to it. Sounds like a bangmaid though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Question For Men, Which Of These Women Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With?My wife does all of the above, so did previous partners | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.Noted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 03:04 AM |
| 82 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.I think it’s more of a rude awakening. Previously, due to the societal structure it was more “likely” to end up paired. Today women are finally more independent (unfortunately not everywhere as much), hence such likelihood is gone. Many young men are unprepared and disoriented, mixed messages like Be good and you’ll find love - from dumb boomers If you don’t fuck you are a loser - from peers Why do you care this much about sex? - from girls who are having heaps of sex on tap add to the confusion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesThey hate us cause they ain’t us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Question For Men, Which Of These Women Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With?Depends. On proportions, posture, shapes and elegance. I’d take a petite “ukulele” lady with all her curves 1000 times over a 6’ trunk shaped woman with no grace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:03 AM |
| 2 | Question For Men, Which Of These Women Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With?None of the above. I am an atheist I don’t do videogames I need someone come cycle, run, hike, climb, swim, ski, camp with me I need someone able to talk art, music, history, poetry, sciences, politics and a lot more I need someone to do rough traveling with me She has to be reliable (also with money), independent and stable (I warn at the first mood swing, at the second it’s over), affectionate at the right point (neither dependent nor avoiding) Physically at least 5’5”, I have a preference for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:57 AM |
| 3 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesI am a suicide survivor, still have some PTSD, I don’t say this as “woe is me”, just that I am deeply empathetic with fellow humans who have been struggling. I am glad if you found your way to weather the storm. Interesting enough, for me it works the exact opposite way, I got back on track with realism and rationalism, which I improved trying to build a positive attitude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesYou do you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesUnless one lives in a big city and is involved in many social endeavors, it’s unlikely that a teenager will deal with more than a few dozen people the same age. As I said somewhere else, even reasonably adjusted, albeit unattractive people might not get intimacy. Nothing unfair, it’s just how life it is. I challenge the conviction that one has to necessarily do something wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:32 AM |
| 3 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesRealism is not negativity. A positive attitude (make lemonade) doesn’t mean avoiding reality (life giving you lemons). Correct me if I’m wrong, saying that truth is not ideal sounds like it’s ok to lie to oneself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:17 AM |
| -1 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesNot boring, but likely shallow, and oftentimes pigshit ignorant. I noticed it’s so prevalent here in the US, the urge to appear cretinously uninterested. I’d take an animated debate over political sciences or art history a thousand times over a retarded “coool bruuuh” contentless exchange on a stoners’ couch à la Beavis & Butthead. If we talk about ataraxy sure, but that’s another level, which I don’t think is fathomed here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesPursuing is different than getting. And I am not even talking about weirdos, outcasts or NDs, there is plenty of reasonably adjusted (for how much people that age can be adjusted) guys that don’t get any until a later age because they are simply unattractive. Nothing “unfair” about that, but limiting it to “unmotivated” people is reductive. And I think the young age is a good time to make people understand that some will get laid a lot, some less, and that doesn’t make a person better or worse. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesI can’t be everyone’s person. I was abused as a child and that had an effect on my personality. I can’t for the love of god be the jolly guy, not my nature. Instead of being something else, I embraced my nature while filing off some edges that kept people away. Luckily my “type” is more successful growing up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesMy national origin is “controversial”. Gets a lot of mixed and intense feelings. It’s also one everyone feels entitled to make fun of, in a way that Asians would lose their mind about if they became objects of such mockery. I honestly never cared about stereotypes, I work my ass off to prove them wrong. I have nothing to do with the supposed wrongdoings of my fellow countrymen. Same goes for being a man or white. Anything I am can trigger assumptions, but growing up I discovered a thing: I find … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 08:53 PM |
| 5 | Why don't women push for an online movement that aims at making it disrespectful not to 50/50?Why in the world should this be a “movement”? If a grown ass man wants to pay and she agrees let it be. If she expects it and he wants to go dutch let it also be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 08:43 PM |
| – | Have you experienced mental illness in your dating life?Yes. I was abused as a child and a teenager, in my first relationships I happen to deal a lot with girls with anorexia, bulimia and personality disorders (mostly bipolar and avoidant). I won’t dive deep in what happened, nor blame anyone, neither I nor them were in our best capacity, I can certainly say it would have been better for both that such relationships didn’t happen in the first place. I then attempted suicide and spent a long time alone rebuilding myself. I can’t stress that enough: me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 06:15 PM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADNetherlands. Fuck brexshitland | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:29 PM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADThere is no such thing as a “brit” in football and rugby | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Women who spent your 20s discovering yourself, what did you discover?“That’s just how men are”. Ugh. Talk about blanket statements. NAWALT, but AMALT? Also, the statistical relevance of this group is close to nil in the real world: you wouldn’t take an addiction recovery community as a meaningful sample of human population, would you? It’s exceedingly evident that you had bad experiences, but have you ever considered finding new circles? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Women who spent your 20s discovering yourself, what did you discover?And what’s the motive for female dipshits to feed bears? Just the top search results https://m.facebook.com/brightside/videos/woman-is-feeding-wild-bears-visiting-her-home/926606905906082/ https://www.facebook.com/DailyMail/videos/lady-feeds-black-bear-on-front-porch/1199576553744561/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vyA7BG29JsE The moment you gender an otherwise legit admonishment (fed bear, dead bear) you invalidate it. Do better, you can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?If ever, it will grow. Look at the female athletes in the 1980s, they often were ugly butches. Look at them nowadays, some of them are literal smokeshows, who might have a side gig as models and might even have a STEM career afterwards, while men are dropping out of college at a high rate. If the trend keeps this way we might have a majority of women in management. Will they settle for a man in trades? Highly doubt it. I also don’t buy the idea of harems, and for what I see, most women who don’t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:24 AM |
| 3 | Why do people get personally offended if they aren’t someone’s physical type?It’s difficult to separate our image from our self. Invalidating our image may legitimately feel (I said feel, not be) like invalidating us as a person: it takes maturity and effort to decouple the two. And where society stands, with pretty privilege being still so prevalent doesn’t help. If the slayer is glorified as a hero even if he’s an asshole and the single is humiliated as a loser, it gets tough not to be touchy if one feels confined to the latter camp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:13 AM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageAgreed. I am challenging the view of some people who paint 30something men as old fatsos with receding hairlines speaking like boomers. At age 32 I already traveled to a good 35 countries, owned an a apartment paid in full (good thing of Europe: no student debt) and could afford good stuff, while being in my physical best shape - also the same sex drive of my teenage years, but the finesse of a very experienced lover. I was already in a relationship with my now wife, but there were many girls in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 10:04 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageDepends on the age gap. Mid 20 to early 30 doesn’t look bad to me. But it also depends on the women and men involved. Pigshit ignorant ‘murrican brats (ETA: yep, downvote me you know who you are), whose biggest problems in life “o my gawsh, I mean, you know, is like” affording a ticket for taytay, getting the newest iPhone or the coffee shop running out of pumpkin spice fuckaccino of course not, but they’ll go for the older version of the same illiterate hunk later on in life. As per back pain, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Do more attractive and desirable men tend to do less work to raise their children?I am an engineering executive, 96th percentile earner, own several properties, decent looking (been often told I remind of Edward Norton and Ryan Gosling), trained musician, EU+US citizen - I wouldn’t think of myself as undesirable, but I made a point to evenly split the duties with my wife long before we were married and had kids. I can name many men far more “desirable” than I am in my circle who also do. Doing your part has more to do with not being an asshole than with being desirable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Flirting is a learned skill by men.You don’t learn from your parents the act of flirting per se. Also because they being of an earlier generation means their flirting style might be cringeworthy or not in line with today’s reality. However, an environment filled with love and tendernesses is naturally conducive to a more fruitful approach to relationships. I was abused and this made me extremely negative and aggressive, incapable of tenderness as I didn’t receive any. Unlearn a bad attitude and create a better one out of thin air… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Flirting is a learned skill by men.I think it can be also innate. I know guys who were born in overly religious families who were nothing like their parents and became slayers. I also know socially inept guys with supercool parents. My personal experience however confirms OP: I was grew up in an abusive environment and I basically had to teach myself how to be a functional human after attempting suicide and making tabula rasa of everything I was taught. I was able to have educated conversation with academics in my teen years, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:29 AM |
| 3 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderThere are certainly exceptions, some people with dark traits can still be interesting, especially if they are attractive in the first place. I wasted my “best” years after being abused and attempted suicide. Being relatively attractive, I still had some relationships with girls who seemed fascinated by my negativity. Being a musician I had some aura of artiste maudit, however, those were all short lived and problematic relationships. I agree, negativity is bad. I was a teenager in the 1990s, one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Dealing with the upper bound of self improvementThe only way to deal with it is to accept it. Life is shitty enough of its own, adding other grudges makes it worse. And being attractive is a lottery. I prefer being a 7 in the West than a 9 in a war zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Women who brag about their boyfriends/spouse online are red flagsIt depends. Many ‘murrican women are shallow braggadocios and have the spasmodic need to insta every bit of their lives. Some are so cretinously petty to do that for Schadenfreude, which you wouldn’t expect from normal people from a developed country, but alas, it just shows the riffraff they are at the end. But in general, as “Any man who must say, ‘I am the King’ is no true King”, those who have to show off how happy they are, often do that more to convince themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Many men complain that they dont receive empathy, words of affirmation, and validation from women, and almost no woman wants to do anything with them unless they can exploit him in some way- resources. But they also block and avoid well-meaning female friends who dont see them in a romantic lightI think "epidemic" is a bit of sensational language and would not give it too much importance, it also does no good service to the men's issues. Agreed, many men should learn to handle loneliness as a normal life condition and not as a disgrace. As I said elsewhere the "spinster/cat lady" threat carries a lot of projection oftentimes. I also saw a lot of men going totally adrift after end of relationships and ending up with gold diggers or worse for the mere terror of being alone. Certainly, a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Many men complain that they dont receive empathy, words of affirmation, and validation from women, and almost no woman wants to do anything with them unless they can exploit him in some way- resources. But they also block and avoid well-meaning female friends who dont see them in a romantic lightSorry for that. It means he wasn’t exactly a friend to begin with. For men also, scarcity might play a major role: any hint of kindness is taken by some as an opportunity to try the shot. Often it’s not even misinterpreted as a sign of interest, just a green light to try. Unfortunately too many men still think they shall “not take no for an answer”. Societally there’s the need to remove the stigma from singleness depotentiate the equation “attractive = worthy”. This is particularly tough, as dar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Many men complain that they dont receive empathy, words of affirmation, and validation from women, and almost no woman wants to do anything with them unless they can exploit him in some way- resources. But they also block and avoid well-meaning female friends who dont see them in a romantic lightThere are mostly two scenarios A. The guy who wants to get in the lady's pants from day one by simping disguised as friendship B. The guy that develops feelings along the way - statistically more often for men than for women, as women are pickier In both cases, since nobody is entitled to a friendship or a relationship, the guy is free to leave. We can all agree that A is petty, especially if the guy throws tantrums, or worse, tries to make scorched earth around his unreciprocating love interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Is it natural for men to be promiscuous or to be married?I can feel physical attraction for many women so, “naturally” I could be promiscuous. But rationally, I value much more the stability of my family, therefore I keep my temptations at bay, as one of the many efforts I put in doing my personal part in said stability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her?I answer here because in this case looks and personality are related. I don't mind a couple (or more) lbs more per se. What I cannot accept is not wanting to improve. That weight is not healthy, not willing to improve an unhealthy condition is a personality flaw I cannot take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I have dozens of hobbies and interests. Just to mention a portion: From a sports standpoint: I am into hiking, skiing, mountain cycling and swimming From a cultural standpoint: I am a professional musician, into art, history, science, geopolitics, languages (speak 7) From a lifestyle standpoint: I am into traveling, fine dining and wines, fashion and watches, graphic and interiors design I would never expect to find a partner that is into as many things as I am, but there must be some and at lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 03:17 PM |
| 10 | Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality?No, but not because of the looks. I found more than one overweight lady attractive, but obesity is unhealthy and I couldn’t be with someone who does not care for her health. Would be the same if she smoked, did drugs, binge drank, had untreated mental issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 11:16 PM |
| 11 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.If a woman does and the man feels underappreciated he should leave. Loneliness is better than giving up one's dignity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:37 PM |
| 14 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.I can only report the grievance I hear the most, which is men not doing their share of chores, but also not listening to the other. Basically taking for granted a woman once they "secured" her. I never had such problem, but I always did my part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:24 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellI personally peaked in my early 30s, reached my best triathlon performance, and from an attractiveness standpoint, it’s the time I was hit on the most by a long shot, also from women in their early 20s. Same for many men in my circle, often we were preferred to college students however, we’re Europeans, we don’t have that farce of college sports like the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:47 AM |
| 65 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.I observed the opposite. Far too many men have been treating women like bangmaids, and are being left behind with no fault divorce and women gaining more and more independence On the other hand, women who don’t need men anymore to survive, are choosing partners who make their life better Previously men could get “a woman” just because they existed, now it’s no longer a given, therefore many men are not willing to put the effort and are left behind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:52 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellYep. Embitterment it is. Meanwhile ladies out there date people their age or older, and it’s ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:23 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellThat’s what I meant. When I was at college, there were plenty of women with boyfriends 5/8 years older. From the look of some comments, it seems like men in their early 30s are balding, drooling fatsos with shaky social skills, when in many cases are as good as they can get. I didn’t make as much money as I do now, but I was as fit as ever, not a wrinkle, not a gray hair, plus a top income for my age, but also confidence and experience I didn’t have in my 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:58 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: What are some examples of "Above and Beyond" behavior you have seen or would like to see from men?You call me arrogant for being surrounded by decent and valuable human beings, and since you have no rational argument, you clutch at straws babbling pseudo-semantics about an icon? Touch grass and possibly take a look outside your county | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:25 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age well24 and 32? I don’t consider it a major gap either, but it seems like some people might think differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:45 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age wellI think my attractiveness peaked in my early 30s - at that time I was approached a lot by women ~20 to ~50. Some 20-something wanted something serious I wasn’t interested into at the time. What they all seemed to value, besides my independence, was also my more nuanced, refined and generous approach to intimacy (given that as a mountain cyclist and distance runner my stamina was still at its fullest) as opposed to that of their student acquaintances. I agree some gaps might look eerie, but I’ve … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:32 AM |
| -5 | A lot of people on Reddit bring up unpaid labor for the high divorce rates but I have a hard believing this from personal experience.“A lot of other people” have no statistical relevance in the grand scheme of things. It’s still your very limited (geographically and intellectually) circle of yes-people. I don’t let my experience influence my Weltanschauung, because, having seen a lot of the world, I know my personal experience is not sufficient for blanket judgments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:15 AM |
| -2 | A lot of people on Reddit bring up unpaid labor for the high divorce rates but I have a hard believing this from personal experience.And why would a man who’s rare waste his time with someone like you? Perhaps because he’s not rare, but just a tad better than the garbage you use to surround yourself with to then complain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What are some examples of "Above and Beyond" behavior you have seen or would like to see from men?You are the one with problems 🙂 including being so cretinously childish to downvote comments that don’t flatter your ostensibly hysterical ego. I have a lovely family and have no problem with men and women alike, differently from you who in your limited experience dealt with subpar men and think most men are subpar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:01 AM |
| 11 | A lot of people on Reddit bring up unpaid labor for the high divorce rates but I have a hard believing this from personal experience./thread “Imbalance” is exactly the word. Be that about chores, but also affection, sex, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 11:31 PM |
| -3 | A lot of people on Reddit bring up unpaid labor for the high divorce rates but I have a hard believing this from personal experience.And who in the world would you be to be of any relevance? Other than an evidently embittered woman with a chip on her shoulder the size of Texas who’s projecting her miserable but statistically insignificant dating experience on all men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating.I said it in another similar post, but again: if I have the privilege of being pursued, why in the world would I put in the effort of pursuing? When all my effort is to choose the most valuable among the potentially many men who compliment me and buy me drinks and dinners, why should I go through the nuisance of approaching, with the risk of being rejected or worse, to ruin my reputation because in this shitty society upfront women are often deemed sluts? Maybe if men stopped acting like horny m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 10:48 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What are some examples of "Above and Beyond" behavior you have seen or would like to see from men?I speak of 5+ lingual PhDs and MDs from foreign universities, not MAs from Bumfuck Missouri who mistake Austria for Australia and spend their free time watching college football. People who were raised under equality principles when y’all were still dividing between “guys and dolls” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What are some examples of "Above and Beyond" behavior you have seen or would like to see from men?Gross overgeneralization. “Most men” y’all ladies dealt with perhaps. In my circle (highly educated internationals) ALL married men share duties, parental and household chores. Nothing wrong in crushing on hunks, but alas, those who spend too much time building muscle, are less likely to spend time in learning how to be civilized. If the intersection subset of a woman’s “attractive” and “civilized” is limited, this doesn’t mean that men outside that “attractive” subset aren’t civilized | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 09:53 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It's good advice to never settleI think that anyone is free to choose, to settle or to keep high standards regardless of the outcome. What I challenge here is the word “deserve”, that sounds so much like fucking ‘murrican entitlement. You “deserve” nothing for the sole fact of being a human being, let alone if by sheer chance you were born an attractive woman in the most exploitative country in the world. Sure, a pigshit ignorant spoiled ‘murrican brat, shallower than a puddle of dog piss thinks “she deserves” because there wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 08:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.I challenge this: “You can't, as a man, say the words "I rescue cats" and not have it skyrocket your attractiveness to whichever woman you're talking to. It's an impossibility.” besides the laughably hyperbolic tone, it’s the grifter wording that’s ridiculous: “it will work with EVERY woman”. People in my circle focus more on homeless, addicts, suicide survivors, people that give “the ick” to the brats because they aren’t as kEwt as the fluffballs are. But again, those who really volunteer do it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Ever feel insulted by the caliber of women who show interest in you?Not insulted. I personally hate chasing and love to be chased, which for a man sucks big time. Sure, if I only less attractive women showed interest in me, this would make me think I am ugly as well, but those were outliers, same as a few very attractive ladies who hit on me. As a trend, I received interest by fairly attractive women, I take the trend for its statistical value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 08:20 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.If one volunteers they do it in silence. The moment they brag, they defy the scope of it. But that’s what volunteering is in America: a nuisance to endure for networking, photo ops or other further motives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:35 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?Forgive the platitude, but this is a case of life giving you lemons. What I’d do (and in part did in case of other shortcomings) Make peace with the fact that I will have far less chances than an attractive men. I was dealt shitty cards from life, nobody is at fault for that This said, decenter romance from my life. Treating it as a (very) nice to have but not a must. Neediness is a turnoff in attractive men, let alone in the unattractive “Be my best self” for myself. I have dozens of interests … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:15 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.In the mid 1990s I volunteered with sewer children in Romania (yep, street children who literally lived in the sewers of Bucharest to get the heat from hot pipes), I did it solely out of my teenager idealism, but this didn’t make me more “desirable”, and I couldn’t care less. If ever, it gave me more conversation topics and perhaps told something of my personality to the people I valued. Sure, the attention span of spoiled, shallow ‘murrican brats can’t reach farther than kEwt flUffbAllz (and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:47 PM |
| 51 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.I don’t buy it. If the guy is not attractive or is a creep he could extract an entire litter of the cutest kitten from lava with his bare hands and would still be deemed a creep. I used to know several guys who did volunteering (even more serious stuff than fluffy kittens) as a simping technique and didn’t increase their desirability of a hundredth of a notch. Volunteering done for its sake, not to show off can certainly tell a lot of one person, to the right people. Doing it for further motives… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Its insane how much status a beautiful woman can give youDepends on the "status" we think of. I once had a short situationship with an extremely attractive lady, who wasn't really the sharpest knife in the drawer. She insisted to once go out with me and my friends, I let this happen but if ever, going out with an arm candy could have "tainted" my "status" with my cultivated acquaintances, needless to say, as soon as the novelty wore off, the sit'ship was over. I descend from a line of marquises, but I couldn't care less. It's fun though, especially he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 07:05 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: What are some examples of "Above and Beyond" behavior you have seen or would like to see from men?You just want a normal man like there's hundreds of millions of us. That's fair and realistic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Its insane how much status a beautiful woman can give youOs anglo-saxões nem conseguem localizar Portugal no mapa, mas não resistem a contar piadas retardadas... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 04:12 PM |
| 13 | Its insane how much status a beautiful woman can give youI don't necessarily disagree with him. I lived many years in Switzerland and the most beautiful women come indeed from abroad. Not just the east, but Latin America, Africa and Middle East as well. And about being "fashion forward", please. It's not Milan, Paris or London. Even Zürich is provincial in comparison. If we exclude the high class brats from larger cities, the chuchichäschtli mountain girls are bland looking, gross, masculine, with apple red cheeks and have no sense of fashion whatsoev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t approach men because rejection for women has a much bigger stigmaFar more simply, why making the effort if the counterpart is spasmodically willing to do it? And if she’s not interested she can enjoy free drinks and several other perks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 03:07 AM |
| 0 | If you have any, what do you think of your orbiters?I have a big sex drive, but my pride is much bigger. I didn't beat it around the bush, if the thing didn't escalate I nipped it in the bud. Orbiting and simping must stop. Starve the beast. And if someone dares disrespect you find the right way to punish them adequately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:26 PM |
| 2 | What's the most superficial reason that you have rejected someone in real life, or left swiped them on dating apps?Politics. She voted at a referendum in a way I disagreed with. And while the referendum was about nothing too serious, the motivations were ignorance and selfishness, nothing I could accept from a partner, so I dismissed her instantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 01:32 AM |
| 2 | What's the most superficial reason that you have rejected someone in real life, or left swiped them on dating apps?Ceaușescu and his wife were more vampires than Vlad Țepeș could ever dream of being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 01:17 AM |
| 3 | What are some red flags you've personally experienced from the opposite sex?Hypocrisy, lack of accountability, capriciousness, mood swings, silent treatment, misandry, expectation of royal treatment, Schadenfreude, shallowness, childishness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman?If you mean that looks and elegance are the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 07:38 PM |
| 13 | Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman?Elegance. And I don’t mean expensive clothes. I mean refined, cultured ways, in talking and acting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Men don't actually want women's love in a relationship. They want respect.I demand respect from every human I interact with. From my partner I want love, affection, sex, understanding, admiration. If any is missing it might be a friend or an FWB, but not enough to be my partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 10:49 PM |
| 9 | Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle.Men have a major problem with being alone and loneliness. Now women don’t need a man to survive they don’t settle “just because”. Some might take advantage of the ease they can get casual sex with, but most simply enjoy their time, their space, their hobbies and, very important, the social circle they nurtured. The “future cat lady” threat is a projection: many women don’t seem scared at all, it’s mostly men who are petrified by a lonely future. I can’t count how many boomer men I know that went… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 09:13 PM |
| 6 | Why do men care if older single women are lonely?Mind my business as I did in the first term. And I am a double citizen, if things go too poorly I’ll go back to Europe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I think my attractiveness peaked in my early 30s - at that time I was approached a lot by women ~20 to ~50. Some 20-something wanted something serious I wasn’t interested into at the time. What they all seemed to value, besides my independence, was also my more nuanced, refined and generous approach to intimacy (given that as a mountain cyclist and distance runner my stamina was still at its fullest) as opposed to that of their student acquaintances. I agree some gaps might look eerie, but I’ve … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:40 PM |
| 6 | Why do men care if older single women are lonely?Naive or loaded question. Such men care about women’s loneliness as much as priests who threaten hell in the hereafter care about souls - it’s people who lost grip and pathetically try to get it back. Since brute force is not allowed anymore, they think threats will work. And might, with some weaker ones, which however are becoming less and less. I said it another posts: threats (of loneliness, of uprisings, of societal collapse) don’t fly, and will less and less in the future. Better start deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Why do you want the man to approach you?Why would anyone ever give up an advantage, let alone one gotten “by right of birth?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do you want the man to approach you?It is. It used to be also my preference as a man, I never felt too comfortable in the chaser role, and really enjoyed being chased | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.I don't think you are looking at it the right way. A hobby doesn't get you a date per se. But it can be conducive to interact with someone you have affinity with. And also it depends on the hobby: a salsa course will get you in contact (but no illusion: with no guarantee whatsoever to get laid) with many women, motorsports most likely with much less. And even there, you can be the guru of her most beloved hobby/interest, but if she's not attracted, she won't date you. I am a musician, when I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I am not sure of anything in life, I speak for the current times and I am no sociologist, so my opinion isn’t worth much. It’s true that there’s been a surge in votes for the far right among men, and I also think that downplaying, let alone ridiculing some of the current societal issues like some do, certainly won’t facilitate an improvement in relations. Some mention an Iran-like scenario, which seems fairly unlikely to me, others some major event which will bring women back to subalternity. In… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:53 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?A harassed woman would protest, wouldn't she? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:14 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?I have no problem with women. I interact with them when I have to, I leave them alone when I don't need to interact | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:54 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?What "situation" do I have to help? I treat people of any gender, origin and walk of life the way I want to be treated. What else should be done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:52 PM |
| 1 | american women are sabotaging themselves in datingI just adopted a terminology widely used in this space. I personally don't think about dating as a market | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Why don't we men just leave women be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:43 PM |
| 3 | It’s generally a poor idea to live together long term in the same home as a couple prior to marriage.I did it and was the best idea ever. Prepared the two of us and helped us improve our cohabitation. By the time we had kids we were a well oiled mechanism and we only had to adjust to the newborns, but wasn’t as tough as if we also still had to learn how to function as a couple under the same roof. Not having sex and not living together prior to marriage are gambles riskier than a russian roulette. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.That’s my train of thought too. Sometimes I run some numbers and plot demographic curves, dialing in other variables like immigration, but I get bored soon. From what I see, marriage will be substituted by new consortial forms open to more people gravitating around a mother, where a father can associate but only the mother has rights on the kid, there will be a major shift in power positions towards women due to the increasing majority of them being more educated and an increasing marginalizatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:07 PM |
| – | Why do westernized females sexualize themselves, yet complain about the sexualization?True. A fit tanned woman running with leggings and a crop top is truly delightful to see. I am personally very tempted to look, but I turn my attention somewhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:43 AM |
| – | Why do westernized females sexualize themselves, yet complain about the sexualization?Not sure you are talking about the same sets of people. Those who show off, either pretend to be upset or are outwardly fine with being sexualized (some bank on it be that via onlyfans or with bizarre endeavors like the previously mentioned “bikini coffee shop”) Those who genuinely complain (and rightfully so) are those who struggle having their professionalism recognized. An acquaintance of mine, exceptional engineer with a pin-up body has to heavily “underdress” to be taken seriously in meetin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:30 AM |
| 14 | american women are sabotaging themselves in datingSupply and demand. In a heavily lopsided seller’s market, why should the seller lower the price? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:56 AM |
| 89 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.The “cat lady to be” threat doesn’t fly. Many women are ok with staying single, as they build support networks men are not as good at creating. Men checking out isn’t really a threat either, now that women have a choice, they’d rather stay single than ending up with someone undesirable. Same goes with passport bros: as soon as the exotic gold digger gets (if the bro is a bald aging fatso she’ll be disgusted by him) the green card the bro might be up for a bitter awakening. Many men who in the pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:44 AM |
| – | Two trash people (M&F) have conflict at coffee drive through, only man is blamed.And I wouldn’t equate throwing a drink with damaging a windshield with a hammer, I get the мафиоти your country spreads around Europe might think this way, but it’s just uncivilized. By your reasoning, he could have stepped out of the car and smashed her window to keep up with the escalation. Then what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:18 AM |
| – | Two trash people (M&F) have conflict at coffee drive through, only man is blamed.She is the management, as she owns the establishment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 11:51 PM |
| – | Two trash people (M&F) have conflict at coffee drive through, only man is blamed.“Good, maybe he’ll learn from this” sounds awfully akin to “he was asking for it”, and we all know how sinister this sounds. Cheering for who takes the law in their own hands (welcome to the jungle), is a very slippery slope. Also, for the record, that’s not a service worker, but the owner of the (gross) “establishment”. And with this I am not justifying any of the two | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Ever turned down sex with a woman? What happened?Several times, mostly in case of (missed) ONS Most cases I wasn’t able to determine how drunk the lady was and preferred declining; a couple got a little aggro. Once a lady was almost blackout, so I ubered with her to her place and watched her until she woke up. She was then grateful. Twice I didn’t have condoms with me (wasn’t expecting hooking up) and there was nowhere to get any. One lady called me a f*g for that. Once I stopped because the lady seemed to have second thoughts and looked sad d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Men who expect the worst out of women: How would you know if you found an exception?I met so many people not keeping their word that I am surprised when I find some who do. I try not to rely on anyone but myself and enjoy the interactions that work well, still from a place of self sufficiency | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 02:39 PM |
| 10 | What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag?Darwinistically speaking one could look at it like a sentence to extinction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 01:51 PM |
| 34 | Men who expect the worst out of women: How would you know if you found an exception?I stopped expecting anything from anyone. Every time something goes well it’s a positive surprise. I see how it goes, but I almost never give second chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:31 PM |
| 1 | If you bring nothing worth sleeping with, you should not be surprised when you don't get laid. This is not woman's faultI would be glad to see an end to simping, orbiting and pretty privilege, which are all caused by men. This said, if the alternative is MGTOW, I doubt it will have any tangible effect. Women are only glad if who they deem “undesirable” pisses off for good, the desirable ones will keep on doing their thing with no change in the dynamics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:02 PM |
| – | It’s not ethical to go to Twin Peaks or Hooters as a married man%p.Look, I understand being radical means having two dimensional thinking and some hindrance. But countering just for the sake of countering is cretinous. This girl made $1,030 (one thousand and thirty dollars 0/100) in tips in one week. Not saying all make that much, but it gives you an idea. https://np.reddit.com/r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG/comments/10il3z4/this_is_how_much_a_waitress_earns_at_hooters/?rdt=63142 How much makeup do you buy with 4 additional grands a month? Don’t be pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:30 PM |
| – | It’s not ethical to go to Twin Peaks or Hooters as a married man%p.Bullshit. For the same level of service (or less) they would provide in other bars, they get significantly higher tips just because. Bear in mind that tips in the US make up for a major part of a server’s income. There are cohorts of students of prestigious colleges who don’t have any problems working there, as it is a waiter job that pays more without the difficulties of being a waiter in a classy restaurant. They don’t even have to perform or anything, they are just scantily clad, men overtipp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:45 PM |
| – | It’s not ethical to go to Twin Peaks or Hooters as a married man%p.Sure can. I am married with kids, If I am on the road and the only place open is a Hooters I go there, have my wings and tip based on service quality. If the lady doesn’t get my beer fast enough there won’t be a 20%, no matter her cup size | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:03 PM |
| – | It’s not ethical to go to Twin Peaks or Hooters as a married man%p.No one forces women to work there. And they are certainly glad to get bigger tips thanks to objectification | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:57 PM |
| – | It’s not ethical to go to Twin Peaks or Hooters as a married man%p.No one forces women to work there as waitresses either. I doubt any who applies there ignores the “must haves” for the job, which comes with conspicuously higher tips. If they can bank on their “assets” and on male’s imbecility good for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:55 PM |
| 1 | If you bring nothing worth sleeping with, you should not be surprised when you don't get laid. This is not woman's faultTrue, but it's supply and demand. If the demand on one side is high, the suppliers have it easy keeping the price high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…Looks like a poorly adjusted person, with a frail ego. I personally love being chased. I find flirting cretinous and clownish, I hated having to do it as I am a reserved man, but with an annoying sex drive. The same way I love being approached and being the one who chooses, I don’t mind being with a woman who’s assertive in public. I only care if she’s tasteful as I value elegance a lot, but I don’t feel in any way emasculated if she takes decisions I am in agreement with and sits “on the driver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:20 PM |
| 1 | I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego?Nothing weird in saying that just because one is told bullshit of whichever nature (societal, religious etc.) they can’t outgrow them. The theoretical is not “turning down for a date”, OP clearly says “if a woman says you’re not their type”, which means something brutally clear, there is really not much you can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 02:55 PM |
| -1 | I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego?I was told stupid shit in the religious area I was brought up. I outgrew it and reprogrammed myself as an adult. If women loudly say “no means no” I listen to them, not to what some outdated societal cliche tries to make me think about them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 02:42 PM |
| 2 | I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego?American society perhaps. I was referring to other cultures, but anyway “continuing to try to get WHAT (it would be “who” in this case) you want” is exactly what I was saying. She is what YOU want, but do you even care if she wants you? If she’s not playing stupid games like “hard to get”, and she clearly rejects you, it’s game over. She’s her own person with her own will you should respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 02:39 PM |
| -1 | I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego?Worse than obtuse, these men don’t value the woman they are interested into as a human being with her own will, more so like a prize to conquer. Fortunately such men are dying out in the civilized world, but are still plentiful in other areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 01:55 PM |
| 4 | How would you summarise the new social contract for average men to follow, for average dating success?Assuming you are looking for an LTR with a functional adult Have your house in order: be fully self sufficient and don’t expect others to be a full time emotional support Be interesting to be around: it doesn’t mean you have to share interests 100% but if there is no conversation topic whatsoever it gets tough Have social proof: sure, there are “sigma males”, but not everyone fits the bill of the fascinating lone wolf. Among more conventional people, being a loner is seen with suspicion It’s a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 10:28 PM |
| 5 | Women: What are some things women today need to do better for long term relationships?And decent men who accidentally mess up clean up right away. Seriously, what kind of Neanderthals have you been living with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Men want fairness in mainstream culture and discourse, not any female subjugation or violation of women's autonomy.I have developed a cast iron skin, ‘murricans make fun (sometimes with jokes which involve thousands of deaths) everyday of my national origin, and people who share my heritage are used to shake it off (as opposed to other countries of origin who screech “racism” at any remark not outrightly praising). I don’t care much of retards with “male tears” mugs, especially if they are American, which in a good part are the wealthiest, most spoiled, capricious and shallow brats (not to add pigshit ignora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 01:50 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way?I loved him (I am in my 40s so I’ve listened to him for a long time) and was sad he took his life. He struggled his entire life with depression and also suffered from social anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 12:19 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way?I think that regardless of the presence of a partner, self sufficiency is a must have. One has to feel good with themselves otherwise it will be hard to attract someone to a place of instability or boredom for lack of interests. But while self-sufficiency is necessary, it might very well not be sufficient (no pun intended). A guy I knew, was cultivated, had lots of friends, interests, a healthy bmi and habits and no underlying condition, just uglier than the sin. He took his life because in spit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them?You shouldn't feel guilty if you don't reciprocate, there's nothing you can do. It means you are a sensitive human though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted toI used to be an extremely slow initiator. I hated rejection so much that I tried to avoid it at any cost, hence, if I was interested in a woman for more than a friendship I started escalating right away, but at a very slow pace. This way if there was no signal of response from the very beginning there was no need to move further. I also happened to be in the same circle with women I liked a lot both as friends and potential love interests. In that case I forced myself to limit the interaction, f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted toPhysical attraction is a scale, not a yes/no. I once played in duo with a cellist. It wasn’t even a friendship at first and banging her was the last thing that crossed my mind. Then practicing, getting to know each other, a tension developed until we had sex. If I met her in another context, I might not even notice her. But she was so cultured, so well spoken and so smooth that really got me, in spite of not outstanding looks. In the same way, a connection can make up for a lesser attractiveness… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Why you should never be friends with someone you’re attracted toThanks. Far too many seem to think that the man that walks away ALWAYS entered the friendship with hidden motives, when often feelings develop along the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:48 PM |
| 3 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?That’s a lot of sense in few lines. Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them?I absolutely agree. And this is one scenario that often gets missed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 03:13 PM |
| 7 | Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them?I think the general advice is more about having a social sphere, a group of friends that includes women. This will allow you to: Be more relaxed around women Have social proof Be in an ecosystem conducive to meet potential dating candidates Yep, feel free to call bs on this, but this is a way it might work (there is no assurance in any case). This does not mean hitting relentlessly on the women of your friends group, that would not be well received. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 02:57 PM |
| 2 | How would the world look if women ruled it?I am an atheist/rationalist/scientist, nothing on the line would annoy me. I respect other takes, I am just against radicalism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 12:04 AM |
| 1 | How would the world look if women ruled it?Nothing important or to apologize about. I just countered a couple intense takes of yours about men (yesterday we talked about supposed changes in men’s attitude pre-intercourse), suggesting a more nuanced and less loaded view | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 11:19 PM |
| 2 | How would the world look if women ruled it?For have it "harder" I didn't specifically mean dating. Again, I am only throwing hypotheticals about the different imbalance of power in an unreal scenario, not seeing anything from a "pilled" standpoint (I am not pilled in any color). This said, though, I see your point, and even if diverges from my useless alt-history divertissement I was writing, I get how important it is. However, you kind of jump between the sub and the real world. You speak of women IRL, and somehow speak like the men in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | How would the world look if women ruled it?I specifically spoke of toxic masculinity. Sports and competence are certainly not toxic, and not necessarily masculine Chemical castration doesn't have to be painful. It can be any kind of libido reduction. Re-education would be part of it for sure, but if there is a chance to nip it in the bud painlessly (I don't imply any sadism), I wouldn't be surprised women would be ok to reduce the risk especially for subjects at higher risk It hasn't yet. We are speaking of a future in which the male, as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 09:53 PM |
| 2 | How would the world look if women ruled it?Reading this sub made me think of this utopian/dystopian scenario. I am not saying I would be in agreement with any of the below. It would be much more of a "socialist" society, of the Scandinavian kind. This would mean a lot more taxes for healthcare and maternity, but a lot less for the military, which would be reduced to a minimum There would be no marriage as we know it. En lieu, there would be a sort of regulated "consortium", akin to "queer families" or the proverbial "village": trusted pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Women have hobbies.Exactly, everything from Schönberg on. And Ligeti is one of my favorites as well. My favorite Studies are "Automne à Varsovie", "Fém", "Arc en Ciel", "Coloana infinită" and "Entrelacs". I also love Musica Ricercata (My favorite is 7) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Women have hobbies.I had the skills to play it already years ago, but it takes some Shaolin grade patience and dedication. Contemporary music sounds like shit either you play it right or wrong. But hell I love that shit. Of all interests of mine that is one I have mostly kept to myself, only two women I dated were into contemporary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Women have hobbies.I won quite some money with trivia in the US. Education here prepares well for work but from a general knowledge standpoint it’s shit. I beat the live crap out of a couple ivy leaguers and my college cost me nothing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Women have hobbies.Also perfect pitch. On Boulez’s 2nd Sonata now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:46 PM |
| 3 | Women have hobbies.What programming language(s)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Women have hobbies.Music: I play classical on my own, jazz with a band. I composed and recorded in the past. I mostly listen to classical (I especially love baroque, classical, early romantic and 1900s), jazz, classic rock Travel: been to 44 countries on all continents (excluding Antarctica). Came to a drastic stop after kids Mountains: when I lives close to the Alps I was all about skiing, cycling, hiking and camping. I still do when I can, but here it’s not the same, and with kids there is not much time Besides … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"?I agree with you. It’s why I talk about a stigma | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Spouse First or Parent FirstChildren will always come first, at least as long as they depend. But parents shall not forget that they are lovers too, and keep time and energy for each other, or things will deteriorate fast. My family and my spouse’s are in Europe, so every time we have to find a babysitter. During the pandemic it was a disaster, so now we try not to lose a chance to have some time for ourselves, as we are fully involved in our children’s lives and activities and that costs a good deal of our energy and time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:38 AM |
| 3 | why don’t we just sex segregate?I don’t think this sub is anywhere close to a statistical significance such to justify a societal reorganization of this caliber. Women and men want to interact with each other IRL. It’s also true that women are taking more space and roles that historically weren’t available for them. Not everyone has been adapting fast enough to these changes and this lack of adaptation has generated frictions, even loud, but nothing to justify a “secession” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:08 AM |
| 8 | Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"?There are so many reasons for mental discomfort. It could even be all caused by hormonal imbalances, and still people dismiss those who suffer as “crazy”. What pushed me off the cliff was people dismissing my pain. They thought I wouldn’t until I did. But also they weren’t equipped to face the abyss. I am trying to raise awareness, but especially here in the US people are terrified of showing “weaknesses”, they are like that meme dog that says “everything is fine” while his house is on fire, onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 12:17 AM |
| – | In wake of the Netflix documentary, what are your thoughts on the Ashley Madison scandal and the details the data breach revealed about its user base?That is just recklessness. Nothing to do with sexual arousal. I received a very (perhaps overly) strict upbringing, with a heavy focus on consequences. No amount of arousal (and I have quite a drive) can have the best of my mind (it’s also why I can last a lot through concentration). We can agree that boys are more reckless in some situations, but again, I think it’s upbringing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 12:06 AM |
| – | In wake of the Netflix documentary, what are your thoughts on the Ashley Madison scandal and the details the data breach revealed about its user base?What I am saying is that as you can keep your panties on, even men can. That supposed "personality shift" depends on the (troubled?) personality, not on the gender. I once stopped when a lady changed her mind at the last second and asked me not to move on. Since I know how horrible it can be, I stopped and comforted her, getting all cuddly and reassuring (I then helped myself furiously in private, I was reeeally turned on). I don't question your experiences, but no matter how horny one is there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 11:42 PM |
| – | In wake of the Netflix documentary, what are your thoughts on the Ashley Madison scandal and the details the data breach revealed about its user base?I declined more than one ONS because I had no condom with me and couldn't get any easily. One lady called me a fag for that. I also declined some drunken sex because I couldn't really tell if the lady was really up for it. I once brought one back to her home and stayed with her several hours until she woke up and thanked me for accompanying her home safely and checking on her. And I am nobody special, most of my friends did the same. I wonder whether the bad experiences you keep mentioning with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 11:27 PM |
| – | Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of menBit of a blanket statement. Grown ass men who believe in fairy tales can only blame themselves. No one worth something would take such a grievance seriously, and it takes no pill to recognize it. However, detoxifying the narration, whoever is culpable for it, would be helpful, in particular, I'd like to see the stigma removed from singleness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Ok, but this sub isn’t statistically relevant to talk about “men” in the real world. Even as teenagers the guys who were after every girl with the sole intent of adding notches were ridiculed for their animalism, when not outrightly despised for their tactlessness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 09:27 PM |
| – | Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of menI agree, but it wasn’t my point. I am more concerned about cleaning the discourse from unrealistic (“blue pilled” if you want, I don’t think in terms of pills) expectations, regardless of where they originated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 09:20 PM |
| – | Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of menIt’s about time that romcom bs like “you’ll find someone”, “it’s how you are inside that counts” get finally eliminated from the discourse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 08:17 PM |
| 18 | Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"?I don’t know about people being fixated on therapy. I am a late GenX/Xennial and I absolutely disagree that previous generation were better at managing emotions. If for “managing emotions” you mean “sucking it up” because someone told one to “grow a pair” that’s unhealthy af and easily ends up in punching walls or domestic violence. There is still a stigma on mental health “eww! I am not crazy!” which is bad. I attempted suicide for how much I hated myself more than twenty years ago. I just felt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Men who brag about fucking anything are garbage, and certainly not looked up to by decent men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 07:35 PM |
| 8 | Which women are allowed to be picky?Everyone, women and men alike shall be as picky as they wish, and adjust their standards depending on the desired outcome. “Supply and demand” sounds quite impersonal, but at the end it’s like that. Why should someone who’s a lot of pursuers not choose for the best? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 12:19 PM |
| 9 | Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women?By no means. Self improvement makes me feel better with myself first and foremost. I love playing music and cycling on the mountains: learning a new difficult piece of music, or cycling my way up to an Alpine pass are some of the most rewarding experiences for me. Same goes for becoming a better version of myself. And in my better version, I have attracted more women. Average in many cases, but I am no Paul Newman, so I can’t expect supermodels, but certainly like-minded, and also keen on self i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:15 AM |
| – | I think some men are jealous of women with high body count… because it means they have more life experience than them.One is jealous of something they don’t have, obviously. Be that sex, love, tenderness, affection, sunsets hand in hand, trips, thoughts, poems. The request for a low n-count in most of the cases is simply a clumsy attempt at making one’s own inexperience more acceptable, same as in many cases (if not most) slut shaming is simply sour grapes. I most sincerely hope that the stigma on being single will fade away for good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 07:20 PM |
| 1 | I think a lot of guys are jealous of women with high body counts… Because it means they have a lot of stories to tell.It is envy, pure and simple. Slut shaming is often motivated by the same reason. It pains being rejected or even only ignored. And unfortunately, differently from other fields where effort pays, if someone is really ugly, or simply not overly outgoing, they might end up alone forever. I don't condone aggression or threats of any kind, but I do have understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 06:34 PM |
| 14 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Do they attract anyone though? I thought the grievance is about not being able to attract anyone whatsoever, “top” or “bottom” tier, whatever that means | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Are men upset that mothers will prioritize their children over their lover?No. My wife and I had kids in our upper-mid 30s. I come from a history of abuse and neglect, for many years I didn’t want kids, as I didn’t want to have anyone experience misery. After I put myself together, paternity desire started kicking in, but I didn’t feel “ready”. Yes, I know no one is ever ready enough, but I didn’t feel ready for the kind of selflessness it takes. And I was right. The day I agreed on having kids, I knew I would have gone to the background for a long time. This meant les… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 03:49 PM |
| 3 | what experiences with women have shaped your view of them?All of them. When I was struggling Those where she was struggling too taught me that I am no therapist: I can’t fix someone who’s suffering, and they should get properly treated Those who were healthy and loved me taught me that they deserved someone better than a troubled man who could drag them down an abyss When I was better Those I hadn’t much intellectual connection with were only good for ONS or FWB. The shallowness of some was so strong to almost weaken the physical attraction. Almost all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 12:49 PM |
| – | Do you think good parents should strive to "looksmax" their sons?With a grain of salt. I believe in trying to make the best of what one is. In this sense I try to give some guidance without overstepping too much, as kids are their own persons. But looks is just a part of the equation, this effort is made on all aspects (academic, sport, social, etc.), as “achieving” makes one feel good with themselves, first and foremost | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 11:59 AM |
| – | How are western women not embarrassed?Women of no longitude are in the world to serve men. Full stop. Women are their own persons, have (or should have) freedom and agency, and no reason to be embarrassed therefore. This said, from a mere preference standpoint, I would differentiate within “western” women. I agree Americans are mostly capricious brats, spoiled to the bone, shallower than a puddle of dog piss and pigshit ignorant. Western Europeans (english aside) are far better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Should I study/work in different fields to meet people I’m more compatible with?It’s difficult for me to understand, not knowing the fields we are talking about. But if the destination field has people you resonate well with, I would assume that the field itself entails activities you like, then go for it. I am a musician, and while I don’t do it for a living, I built a fairly large social circle around it as a hobby | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Should I study/work in different fields to meet people I’m more compatible with?If you choose a field for anyone other than yourself you’re likely going to end up miserable. My line of work is hardcore engineering, I made almost no friend at work and never had a relationship, because the field is sterile and nerdy af, but unfortunately it’s where I landed and it’s still rewarding enough, as a job. I built my social ecosystem on my interests and hobbies, which is where I made friends and got into relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 01:01 AM |
| 0 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be better90/10 sounds extreme. However the current trends (not the status quo, the trends) in education and family life made me think about a future utopian/dystopian scenario in which men will be more excluded. Note: I don’t make any judgement as per “good” or “bad” • The number of women with higher education will keep on increasing, with a major shift in company and political leadership positions • Marriage as we know it will be dismantled. En lieu, new forms of partnerships will become legal, akin t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 09:37 PM |
| 1 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.I am not saying celibacy is the endgame. I am simply saying that being needy, or coming off as such isn’t likely to be a successful starting point. Sure, attractive men get ONS easily. But for those who have to put an effort (I’d say most men) it gets more complicated to land a relationship, even FWB without the “house in order” or social proof | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.I can speak only for my experience. I had relationships when I was a real mess, they didn’t go well. After putting my pieces together, my relational life improved. I have been with the other person because we enjoy each other’s company, not because I “need” her. Sure, a good relationship must entail mutual support, but one cannot expect a therapist: it’s not for a partner to “fix” the other. If there is no guarantee of companionship in life (and there is not), I think it only makes sense to be p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 07:05 PM |
| 19 | Are women "witholding affection from men"?No one is entitled to relationships, affection or sex A relationship is a voluntary association between peers If someone is unhappy in a relationship they are free to leave at any given time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 08:12 PM |
| 11 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.I would make an adjustment: nurture a pleasant life first. Self-sufficiency is necessary. No healthy relationship can start from a place of need: a girlfriend won’t fix one’s messy existence, and is not supposed to. One has to get heir own house in order, and if that takes therapy so be it. Also, social proof is paramount. First to get an ecosystem in which social connection is easier, and second, because a loner will come off as suspect when not creepy. The above, of course counts if one wants … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesMy son had that experience at 5. It’s uncommon, at that age to be fully able to fend for oneself. Now he’s older and has already got me in trouble with some dumbfuck religious parents of kids at the playground, because he showed that god’s existence can be proven like that of unicorns and they got in crisis. And sure as hell he is learning to respond in kind to anyone trying to accuse him baselessly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesThanks. As I said in another message, it’s being taken care of. He does martial arts and a number of other team sports, has no videogames, plays with rat snakes and we as a family are hardcore European bikers, hikers and campers. I am not permissive in the least, but I do respectful parenting nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesI honestly always try to. I try to be decent and raise decent kids. Not so easy in this world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Heterosexual Women: would you trade desirability for guaranteed safety from sexual assault.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Heterosexual Women: would you trade desirability for guaranteed safety from sexual assault.Do you want me to send a picture? What’s your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Are high SMV men happier single?I check several boxes here. The main differences are that I don't fear being alone and I married in my upper-mid 30s. I don't think I would be happy single, as growing up, my priorities have changed. I admit, from a mere bodily standpoint, I might get attracted by other women from time to time, but that is easy and quick to put to rest. But the opposite? Fucking around, maybe with younger women, and then go home to an empty bed? Or not stumbling in toys left all around? I would honestly feel pat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:47 PM |
| 1 | On why "Conditional Femininity" makes senseBetween a "submissive housewife" (ick) and a ludicrous "gUrLboSz!1!!" (ick²) there are better relational styles. "Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king." Same goes for "kweens". A confident individual (regardless of the gender) will be able to assert their boundaries with calm and grace, without having to flex muscles or pound their chests. And be able to role play with their partner without becoming submissive or defenseless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesEmasculation? You should see my son. He beats the live shit out of kids 2 or 3 years older at martial arts, and already does circuit soldering with me. He doesn't even have videogames, I kick him out to go play in the woods if he stays inside too much. As I mentioned somewhere else, this happened somewhere other than school, at a time and in a place where I wouldn't expect someone to try indoctrination. I am very aware of the risk of radfem teachers and kept a close watch on what he hears at sch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Heterosexual Women: would you trade desirability for guaranteed safety from sexual assault.Very attractive. I don’t rate beauty with numbers, but some said a 9. Overseas it used to happen a lot also with less attractive women from less developed places like southern and especially eastern Europe, who tried to strut their way to the top. Things have improved in recent years anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 12:31 PM |
| 4 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesThat wasn’t his school. Just an unrelated camp-like activity. If that happened at school I would have raised hell and wouldn’t be alone, as the parents I deal with are like minded. I monitor really closely what he learns and what he hears in his circle, I also take an active part of his education, for example I teach him history from a European perspective as ‘murrican history teaching is a joke. And as I mentioned, I teach him to take shit from no one, as I myself don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 12:14 PM |
| 8 | Heterosexual Women: would you trade desirability for guaranteed safety from sexual assault.Men are to blame for pretty privilege though. If someone without a dignity takes advantage of their looks, there is not much you can do other than reeducating who accords the privilege. My most valued (and paid) coworker is a young lady, one of the most badass engineers ever met. She takes shit from no one, and everyone has the utmost respect of her. I never had to, but I would have anyone disrespecting her for being a woman fired on the spot. But in the past a lady I didn’t hire was transferred… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:32 AM |
| 29 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesExactly. That is what I hate of the current discourse. Radicals are such imbeciles that don’t understand that alienating the moderates they shoot themselves in the foot. I don’t accept bullshit like collective shame as I never accepted original sin. I am a suicide survivor who spent a significant part of his life in pain, I have roasted and will roast whoever dares calling me “privileged” just because I look nordic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:39 AM |
| 16 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesI am a late GenX/X-ennial raised in an abusive, overly antiquated and traditional environment. I rebelled to that, becoming radical at first, just to go back to moderate progressivism after seeing what utter bunch of shitheads radicals are. But I’ve always had equality as my driving force, as a citizen, a voter, a taxpayer, a manager, a husband and a father. I really don’t like where the discourse is going. I despise misogyny but it pains me to see how misandry is more and more accepted. As per … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 12:58 AM |
| 104 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesBefore moving to the US, I spent several years in a very progressive environment in Europe, where equality is already fully enforced and parental (ETA: both maternity and paternity) leave conditions are incredibly good. The tradeoff is high taxes, but I’ve always been willing to pay for social justice. Even being the breadwinner, I equally split parental duties (including, when the kids were babies, waking up 4/5 times a night for bottle, fuss, pain, poop, barf or any soothing needs): not saying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 12:08 AM |
| 4 | Question for women: how often do you get approached by men in public?Very much depends on the attractiveness. Some very attractive women friends told me in some cases even more times in one day (considering commute on public transit, work, lunch, errands, gym, and after work drinks). When I was younger, in Europe, I remember sometimes going clubbing with a group of people. Some attractive girls of the group could be approached ten or even more times in a night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 02:51 AM |
| 6 | Here is something uncomfortable to consider .... Women will forgive abuse before they forgive weakness.More than “effeminate”, I’d say indecisive, scared, lacking confidence or incompetent. Coming from a fashionable metropolis, I used to know many metro- and bisexual guys who were real slayers and took shit from no one, while being extremely feminine. They were confident and assertive. Confidence is calm, abusers lack it, masking the deficiency with prevarication. And unfortunately many fragile people aren’t able to break free from abusive partners, some because of fear and some because of some s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 02:19 AM |
| – | Unethical adviceThat doesn't have to be a "crack". It could be a moment of weakness, of tiredness, of frustration. A well functioning couple with kids: difficulties at work, a health issue, kids being kids. Even the best functioning humans might gain weight, get nervous, feel frustrated. And while doing everything needed for the family, temporarily not being able to also be the most splendid self for the partner. In that moment, a younger, carefree (and careless) person takes advantage of that weakness, and som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 09:18 PM |
| 2 | What types of relationships should a perfectly socialized man have?Agreed. A missing or/and abusive father will leave a mess. I lost a good decade putting my pieces back together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Age-Gap Relationships (Remixed)I had short relationships with both significantly older and younger women. In both cases people with an artistic background: the cultural connection was so deep and strong, that the gap had very little significance Older: ~15 years older than me in my early 20s. Due to my life experience (higher IQ, history of abuse) I was already “grown”, in a time when the world was a way more cheerful place and people my age were carefree, I had an introspective, artiste maudit vibe. The dynamic of the relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Is the use of makeup deceptive?Women are free to dress how they want and to use the make up and the ornaments they like. Whatever their motives, it’s their freedom, nothing to debate about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 05:56 PM |
| 1 | What kind of standards do you think are reasonable and which ones are not?Anything unachievable is unreasonable per se. And this depends solely on the person, and on the situation they find themselves in. My current lifestyle is reasonable now, it wouldn't be straight out of college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 11:38 AM |
| – | THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREADTrue. The ROI of a BSc in Data Science from that shithole Ole Miss is exponentially higher than that of a major in Gender Studies at Yale | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Men should avoid dating sexual assault victimsI am. Thank you for caring. I actually was able to go back to a functional existence, get on a good career path and build a family. But I couldn’t do that without fixing myself first, and that is something I could only do on my own. That’s why I suggest not to believe that a relationship could be a saving grace. Getting into a relationship from a place of need or pain will make both lives miserable. No one but us is in charge of our own spiritual healing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Is it a man's responsibility to turn a woman on?In a relationship between peers, responsibilities are shared. In this case, the responsibility is on the outcome, not on the effort: both are responsible that the experience is at least equally pleasurable for both, if it takes a differently elaborate approach on one part it’s not unfair, it’s only considerate. Let’s be honest: turning on a man takes no time and getting off little effort, we are built differently. Being aware of differences, listening to her, putting her pleasure first is essent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 02:43 PM |
| – | Q4Men: Do you expect women to cook for you during the “talking stage”?Nope you black and tan. I had the misfortune to spend enough time in that shithole island to witness the barbaric eating and binge drinking habits of gammons and chavs. And even if I dated ladies of my rank, the quality of ingredients and the food culture was bad. But again, this was 25 years ago, since then I only went to London (the only place worth anything in brexshitland), maybe things improved out of M25, but I doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you expect women to cook for you during the “talking stage”?Where did I imply that? I am just saying that they are utter shit (the english are abysmal) at cooking and even the renditions of foreign food they had access to weren’t exactly the best. I speak of college times, ~25 years ago, and of course not of London which is a great food scene (because it has nothing english left) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men should ever show emotion in front of a woman?If the person is the one you want to share your life with, being able to show emotion is paramount. Leaning temporarily (again: temporarily) on each other is part of a sane relationship, treating the other as an unpaid therapist and doing nothing to fix one’s own problems on the long term is a recipe for disaster | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 01:09 AM |
| 38 | Men should avoid dating sexual assault victimsPeople, regardless of their gender, should avoid dating people who need healing from any kind of trauma. And this is not to say victims don’t deserve love: they deserve all love in the world, but first they have to heal, whatever it takes. Signed: a suicide survivor who burned the bridges with wonderful people who tried to love him and also got burned thinking his love could heal a woman in trouble | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 01:02 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Do you expect women to cook for you during the “talking stage”?My home country sports one of the most renowned cuisines in the world, and I refined my cooking with my worldwide travel experiences. I cook for passion, but when I dated German or - worse - english women, cooking was a matter of survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 12:57 AM |
| 2 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?First of all, before starting any kind of relationship your vulnerability has to be put in check, full stop. A partner is not your therapist, your fixer, or worse, your extra parent. This said, everyone have some kind of vulnerability, and this MUST be accepted. I come from a history of abuse, and while I was able to fix myself to an acceptable extent, there are still things that PTSD me. I made this clear on the onset of my current relationship, and I suggest everyone to do so: if the potential… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.My utopian/dystopian scenario is the following. Premise: I don’t make any judgement as per “good” or “bad” The women with upper education will keep on increasing, with a major shift in company and political leadership positions Marriage as we know it will be dismantled. En lieu, new forms of partnerships will become legal, akin to the nowadays “queer families” or the proverbial “village”. A consortium of trusted people associating with a mother to some degree, the biological father will not have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.“Thousands of generations of women picking only the best men” in what world? Only a subset of western women has had the privilege of choice and not even for the whole of a century, if ever, we’ll see the results in the next generations. Anyway, it would be an interesting experiment to see what would society look like if physical attraction was the leading factor of mating choices. Ancient Greeks conflated beauty and virtue in the term “καλοκαγαθία” (being beautiful AND good). We know very well t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Question for dads and men currently in committed relationships; did you fall into typical gender roles and before the relationship how strongly did you believe in gender roles?No. I married a progressive woman after several years living together. I knew we wouldn’t fall in traditional roles and so it has been since, especially with kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 12:12 AM |
| 6 | Why are so many dudes whipped?I agree that getting dictated what to/not to do is unacceptable. But in a committed relationship, especially with kids, there is often a shared schedule that needs addressing. I always double check with my spouse as she does with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 11:54 PM |
| – | doing "hobbies" together?For sure. As said, I couldn’t go much past FWB with someone who doesn’t resonate with my interests, as they are not mere hobbies but a foundational part of who I am | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 11:02 AM |
| – | doing "hobbies" together?Unfortunately it reduces drastically the number of possibilities, especially in the US | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 08:09 PM |
| – | Women should avoid dating late bloomer menI was abused in my late childhood/teenage years. I attempted suicide in my 20s. I lost a good decade, then I worked on myself and was able to put the pieces together. Before meeting my now wife I enjoyed a short lived hookup phase, in which, with concentration and putting the woman centerstage, my dry spell never really had an impact on the quality of intimacy. Part of my suffering came from being oversensitive, which today is one of my fortes: I am a polymath, musician, art buff, multi lingual.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 03:42 PM |
| 9 | The great "checklist" bait-and-switch (why most dating advice is useless)Premise: one can’t control someone else’s attraction towards themselves. If someone is not attractive there is only this much they can do to improve, no advice ever can circumvent this. And yes, overly attractive people might not need much or any effort to get laid (which again is not the same as building a LTR). This said, for normal people being self-sufficient (i.e. not needy or clingy), have one’s house in order and social proof are all necessary conditions (it’s just common sense almost to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Playing guitar is 🔥Not sure it ever really worked as “play music and you’ll get laid instantly”, except, again for high-status/money artists. Music got me know many people, also facilitated getting into relationships with educated women, but was never an insta-panty-dropper as many have seemed to imply ever since. The hot guy who gets laid after singing around the bonfire could get laid without singing. The ugly weirdo could play guitar like Paco de Lucia or sing like Frank Sinatra and still won’t get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Playing guitar is 🔥Go ahead with your assumptions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 12:04 PM |
| 3 | As much blame as women get for the current situation, a big part of the problem is the desperation of men. I regularly see dudes calling the most average or even below average women “hot” or “beautiful.”Spread awareness, even if it will take a long time. Do a brutal simp and orbiter shaming, make them become the archetypal loser. Since you can’t get rid of the OF lowlives preying on desperate men, starve them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 01:19 AM |
| 19 | Playing guitar is 🔥Been a musician for decades, played in front of up to 3k people, I am fairly attractive, concerts never got me laid ETA: let me articulate Famous (hence also rich) rockstars get groupies regardless of their looks Not famous musicians and semipros certainly get attention but unless they are really attractive they don’t get panties dropped in front of them, let alone by attractive women. I was approached post-gig several times by women I wasn’t attracted to, or who were too drunk or high (I am not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 01:11 AM |
| 2 | doing "hobbies" together?In my case: I am a professionally trained musician, I don’t do it for a living but I perform and practice a lot. She has to share my love for music. Bonus if she’s as accomplished as a player as I am (yes, I ragdolled a cellist on a piano after playing together. Some of the best sex of my life) I spent a good part of my life on the Alps. I love hiking and camping in the wild as well as skiing and cycling. Not asking her to make the Three Passes tour with me, but if she can, it’s a plus I travele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 07:06 PM |
| 18 | Guys are not bad at sex-- you areI think this take is a bit extreme. Orgasm gap is real, for a man it's easy to get off with simple penetration. And while there is nothing "evil" with how genitalia work, as a thinking being I think it's only fair to treat my partner as a peer and regard her pleasure at least as important as mine. Differently, I would just be an animal that uses her to drop my load. I learned to last a lot with concentration, so I can stay apace without interruptions, and I make a point to have her always finish… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather be emotionally vulnerable with a woman or a tree?My father abused me, but died too young for me to witness such change. His father abused him even worse, but was the sweetest grandpa ever, to the point I could hardly believe he was the monster he actually was. That went on for generations, I am trying to break the chain myself. Good that you have a better partner, don't let anyone disrespect your vulnerabilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather be emotionally vulnerable with a woman or a tree?I think we have to define the perimeter of vulnerability. I was abused when I was younger and survived a suicide attempt. I went through a desert crossing of many years, during which some women got attracted by my “darkness”, but couldn’t handle it for long, and rightfully so. This also happened at a time when the world was more peaceful, and youth my age was living in a carefree lala land. I was bitter for people not understanding what I went through, but in reality, it would have been unfair o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Sux, Beta FuxI am not able to draw percentages, I saw someone previously provided some that seem well thought and realistic. About me: I have a high sex drive, but I am also fully committed to providing to my family in terms of resources and time, my partner has to (and actually is) be the same. I don’t mind someone else’s past promiscuity as long as it’s not a reflection of some kind of mental illness. But in that case the issue would be the pathology, not promiscuity per se. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 02:31 PM |
| – | Women's attraction based on career and income is weird.Status counts for shallow people. We can agree, most Americans are shallower than a puddle of dog piss. I descend from a line of marquises, work a tech exec job, back in Europe I had the chance to dine in castles, but also to play music for union workers in squat houses and get beaten by the cops. Since I moved to the US, I tried some interesting experiment, see how much more middle class ‘murricans (pigshit ignorant riffraff) want to deal with me when I reveal my lineage as opposed to when I go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 01:11 PM |
| 5 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I don't think the term derides someone who willfully chooses a SAH role. The issue is about a one sided expectation: a man expecting sex without providing his fair share of effort, be that about chores or child rearing. If kids are in the picture and she's a SAHM, as soon as he's back from work, he has to do his part, including cooking, giving bottle, soothe, change, be peed/shat/puked on at any given hour and for several times in the night (been there done that). And the weekend (when the littl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 06:21 PM |
| 2 | This Sub really undervalues the importance of social skills and PersonalityThere is plenty of people (many women, but also men like me) in this sub who in fact point out how important these are. It's also important to understand what dating "strategy" one pursues. ONS? FWB? LTR? The requirements might be extremely different: a fuccboi might not need too much "personality" to get laid, but I don't know how statistically significant the category is. And to be a fuccboi it takes outstanding looks, one either has them or not, there is no cheat code If we think on the longe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 01:41 PM |
| 3 | Mothers almost never tell their sons what to look out for when it comes to women.Not sure moms have been equipped with the right knowledge until now. When my mom was my age she was literally a dinosaur, she didn’t have the slightest clue of what girls were in those years, even having a daughter. Being traditional and religious, the only advice she tried to give me was to stay away from any kind of promiscuity, in the hope that I stayed virgin until I married. Being she so disconnected from reality got me do the polar opposite of anything she said, unfortunately even the ultr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 12:59 AM |
| – | As a male victim of serious domestic violence it is heartbreaking some women shut down after I tell them.I was abused too, later on I attempted suicide. This happened in a specific historical moment, where economy was good and my acquaintances were particularly happy and carefree. None of them was able to even fathom what meant to be around someone with a “baggage”. It was an annoying sequence of “what’s wrong with you?”, “everything is ok” and other similar shallow platitudes. I connected with other broken inside people, but those relationships became obviously toxic in almost no time. Later on, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 01:18 PM |
| 1 | the idea that the 'Evil Men' are stopping women from leading is bullshitWomen have been getting more and more into leadership roles roles in the past few decades (and considering the data on college attendance it might be bound to accelerate), but this hasn’t resulted in them “hitting on man” more. And if I have to guess it won’t in the future, if ever, women with a better status will become even pickier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 11:58 AM |
| 1 | the idea that the 'Evil Men' are stopping women from leading is bullshitEven if women will ever be on the initiating side, I doubt this will ever result in a broadening (or lowering) of standards: they would still be after the top men and ever larger swathes of the male population will remain unpartnered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 03:05 AM |
| 4 | the idea that the 'Evil Men' are stopping women from leading is bullshitHow does leading men imply blowing/having sex with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 02:35 AM |
| -2 | I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrievedWhat I really can’t understand of this whole thing is why do people even care. It’s a hypothetical, I can agree or disagree, it ends there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:34 AM |
| 8 | The answer to misandry is a passportWhen she gets her green card the bro is up for a peculiar surprise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 07:47 PM |
| 21 | If women want sex as much as men, why do they consider it “being used,” make men wait, and have the ability to go without sex for extended periods of time?Many did, do and will do, unfortunately. Especially in some cultures the quest for the highest n-count as proof of masculinity is real. I can’t count how many men I saw bragging about pumping and dumping admittedly unattractive women for the sole sake of “adding a notch” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 05:10 PM |
| 3 | in your experience who initiates break-ups more?I think it’s more fear and shame of loneliness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Could misogyny just be an extension of misanthropy amplified by lust?There can be different flavors to it, for example there are Those who are mad at women (wouldn’t necessarily say “hate”) because they were hurt or can’t get one Those who don’t accept emancipation (because of religion, conservatism, or whatever other reason) There could be more, but these come to mind first. The two can also intertwine or be consequential: I saw men that called themselves “feminists” as an orbiting strategy who then engaged in both above behaviors after rejections, there are hur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 01:53 PM |
| 4 | Just getting yourself out there is not enoughIs there an InterNations chapter in your city? (www.internations.org) It’s a monthly meetup of internationals that moved to town (hence often looking for connections), mostly fairly to highly educated, and in my experience with a decent amount of women. It requires some open mindedness, but so does finding a partner abroad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 12:22 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on women selling their virginity?Supply and demand. If there’s a buyer, good for the seller | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 01:55 AM |
| – | So what if women follow the alpha fucks, beta bucks strategy? I have yet to see proof that the beta guy actually achieves worse outcomes overallIf the beta guy has little to no sex, because she “needed” to settle down but is not attracted is at very high risk of being cheated on because of the above, or being left for a more attractive or richer beta has to be a stepfather (with perhaps a significant financial burden) to someone else’s offspring, at the risk of hearing “YOU’RE NOT MY FATHER!” or worse, having the asshole father popping up from time to time and messing things up I’m not sure staying single would be a worse alternative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 05:43 PM |
| – | So what if women follow the alpha fucks, beta bucks strategy? I have yet to see proof that the beta guy actually achieves worse outcomes overallTo love or to end up with? OP speaks of “needing to settle down”. That “need” thing is where my question originates: we are not talking about an ace (OP also mentions a certain past), but someone that, with a robust sex drive and a considerable experience, at the end “settles”. Putting aside vitriol and pills (please) I think it would be interesting to know how many men accept an undignified relationship (and perhaps infidelity) just because they aren’t able to accept to stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 05:12 PM |
| – | So what if women follow the alpha fucks, beta bucks strategy? I have yet to see proof that the beta guy actually achieves worse outcomes overallOk, I guess. But for me to understand (I am not pilled in any color), in the specific case of being a lesser choice, do you suggest one should take whatever he can get, even if the risk of being cheated on is high? Pills aside, I would think that sometimes nothing might really the better choice. I know many men who ended up with tragically bad partners because they were terrorized of being alone and ignored even the most evident red flags. This connects to my suggestion of pursuing self sufficie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 03:52 PM |
| – | So what if women follow the alpha fucks, beta bucks strategy? I have yet to see proof that the beta guy actually achieves worse outcomes overallYou are mixing a lot of takes here. About the second one: beggars can’t be choosers, ça va sans dire. This said, though, if someone knows he’s a “lesser” choice, the doubt that she might cheat with someone she finds more attractive might not be baseless. There are people IRL who accept the risk (and the actual cheating), some who don’t even notice, and some who prefer to avoid the risk; I would think the latter are a slight (albeit vocal) minority, given the terror many men have to “end up alone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 03:32 PM |
| – | So what if women follow the alpha fucks, beta bucks strategy? I have yet to see proof that the beta guy actually achieves worse outcomes overallIf one is a second (or third, or…) choice, the risk of being discarded for someone deemed better is reasonably high. At that point perhaps “nothing” might be a better option, on the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 02:53 PM |
| 3 | "Having common interests" is one of the most overrated things when it comes to relationshipsIf the lady doesn’t share my interests or doesn’t want to get into them, we won’t go past ONS or FWB at best. My interests are a foundational part of my being, not resonating with them means not resonating with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Are women into boxing/combat sports or into motorcycles a redflag?It really depends on what drives the passion, and that’s true for both men and women. If one enjoys an activity for the sake of the activity, I don’t see why gender must be an impediment of sort. I personally have no interest in motorcycles and dislike combat sports, no matter if it’s about women or men. If one picks an activity to make a statement, to prove something, to “show empowerment”, they’re just pathetic and a pain in the ass to be around (“loOk at mEEh! Me strOnk!1!1!!”), again, men an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 12:29 AM |
| 4 | Dating advice by men, for women?Good advice is common sense, which is ungendered. But then again, who has common sense already needs no advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:39 AM |
| 8 | Dating advice by men, for women?I wouldn’t be surprised if the people in these spaces weren’t exactly well adjusted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 05:38 AM |
| 9 | Dating advice by men, for women?I have no advice other than common sense, which is ungendered (and likely banal). Of the many things women don’t need from men, advice is certainly one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 04:37 AM |
| 2 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?In reality my familial and personal history is a trainwreck to say the least. I also had several bad relationships and a very long dry spell. After recovering (took years), I started dealing with "saner" people, therefore, I guess, their behavior was more decent. I'd also add, that women are perhaps better at rejecting, as they have to do that more often than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 06:58 PM |
| 1 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?As a man I don't think rejection is inherently embarrassing. I was rejected only a handful of times, but only because I approached very rarely, due to fear of rejection. But I have to admit, even those that were honestly telling to be not into me (hence not bringing boyfriends up) did it with such a grace that didn't make me feel bad. If ever, some even seemed flattered: I made my move because I knew in advance they appreciated me, and their appreciation didn't wane after rejection. Simply it di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 06:39 PM |
| 1 | How many men here who fear an embarrassing rejection have actually experienced an embarrassing rejection? And women, have you ever rejected a man in a humiliating manner?I only approached women where I had the feeling she was attracted (she was looking or smiling at me) and it worked. A couple times she was just being friendly, and noticing that the thing was not escalating I let it de-escalate, so it didn’t get to the point of an explicit rejection. I’ve always preferred to be chased, being relatively attractive it also happened a couple times, but not even nearly to how much I’d wanted. And yes, my big fat artist’s ego was preventing me from “risking” an unple… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 01:40 PM |
| 3 | Dear gentlemen: How much "power" do have OF models, IG influencer, etc.?Little to none, in the grand scheme of things, but any amount of power to such people is still too much power. Men should show some dignity and quit orbiting, simping, adding visibility to useless influencers or worse pay for of “content”. Starve the beast | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 01:16 PM |
| – | Q4W: Would you marry a male that checks all of your boxes except one - "has great chemistry"?I am a man and I see it like you. If she and I are mutually attracted share life-defining passions there is "chemistry". Sure, the nature of the passions makes a big difference. Some interests (in my case artistic and cultural) come with a major emotional involvement that might create a blitz fast, scorching hot connection. I am not able to think of chemistry differently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 09:31 PM |
| 4 | Women's shame related to masturbationThat’s the worse. I remember swim training when I was 13, I learned a lot about controlling my body with my mind. I have the misfortune of growing up in a stupidly traditional country where the talk about sex is incredibly childish and while I rebelled to some idiotic conception very early, still I had to move to find more sex positive environments. It’s disheartening, that almost 30 years later something as stupid as shame still taints one of the few things that make life beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you marry a woman who checks all the boxes EXCEPT "has great chemistry"?I am not sure my answer will be apt, but I’ll try. For a relationship to work (i.e. to get married) I need a combination of Attractiveness Personal qualities (sanity first and foremost, but also common values) Artistry “Chemistry” for me, is simply a combination of the three, nothing unexplainable. But if even one aspect lacks, the “reaction” won’t be activated: • If she’s only attractive: ONS • If she’s attractive and is ok on the personal side (sanity, empathy, rationalism), but has nothing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:10 AM |
| 0 | Q4M: Would you marry a woman who checks all the boxes EXCEPT "has great chemistry"?If I find her attractive and I can pick what I want (in my case: European (no england - yuck), at least three-lingual, sane, empathetic, rational, non-religious, well traveled, feminine, elegant, cultivated, outdoorsy, athletic, excelling in at least one art, one craft and one music instrument, with a good career) the “chemistry” (whatever it is) will be there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 02:23 AM |
| 1 | What is required for women to really enjoy sexI personally achieve a lot with concentration. Just keep moving, but focus your thought for a moment somewhere else, it’s something you can also practice solo. Of course not to the point to appear distant or disengaged, simply switching the gear on neutral while the car is going. And once you have found the right tempo (you get the signals) it’s easy to stick to that, a change in pace can ruin it all. We can control a lot with our mind, even in the wildest scenarios | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/24 11:08 PM |
| – | Why should I date a much older man vs a man closer to my age?I had kids in my upper 30s. I lack the energies I had earlier, but I reached a level of selflessness I couldn’t have before. Age is not “just” a number, agreed, but not always it’s a limitation. Weigh in all factors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/24 04:51 PM |
| 7 | How Much of Guys Being Sex Obsessed is Socially Constructed?I was a teenager in the 1990s in a trad European country. The peer pressure on boys to get laid was through the roof, beyond obsession. And boys obviously made ridiculous shit up not to sound “behind”, or, god forbid, not straight. It’s disheartening to see that many years after, dating dynamics keep on being affected by toxic discourses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/24 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Is male inexperience really the sexual and romantic death sentence that this sub makes it out to be?My experience is obviously anecdotal, and as said it's one of a dude who puts the lady at the center. Others see it different and I don't judge. First of all, let's point out that while women have more options, this doesn't mean that every woman has a big n-count. This means, most likely you won't be dealing with a Messalina, but just a regular lady with a "normal" sex drive and no pornstar expectations. Sure, if you target a nympho, expectations will be different, but that's not something I am … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Is male inexperience really the sexual and romantic death sentence that this sub makes it out to be?I am not making this up. I had a years long dry spell because of personal reasons, and when I got back to the dating scene I could be considered “inexperienced” for my age. You can achieve stamina on your own. If you’re short of breath by walking, it will be the same in bed. If you’re fit (not even for a run, a power walk is ok) you have a good foundation. And besides the condition, for me lasting during the act is about focus, and that I improved getting off solo, and works the same. I make a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Is male inexperience really the sexual and romantic death sentence that this sub makes it out to be?I just answered to the “death sentence” question, demonstrating that it’s not, as you did. And I agree that “getting to that point” is hard, inexperience isn’t necessarily a reason for it to be hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 12:53 PM |
| 5 | Is male inexperience really the sexual and romantic death sentence that this sub makes it out to be?Not a woman, so I answer here, no, it’s not. It’s no rocket science Don’t ask/don’t tell - you are not her exes Foreplay, foreplay, did I mention foreplay? Have a good stamina Get to know her in advance be that about kinks or no-nos Follow her lead, or lead yourself, in any case, read the room, signals are evident Keep her centerstage, accompany her until she finishes There’s plenty of “slayers” that get chances because of their looks and do little to nothing of the above. And people who have a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:24 AM |
| 9 | For men who prefer that women don’t wear makeup or say it’s not necessary - share a picture of a woman you find attractive not wearing makeup?Well, you mastered an art, and tricked “laymen”, consider it a sort of “sprezzatura”, they not recognizing the effort, is a sort of a compliment, paradoxically. If you are American though, I see where this would come from, women here have a tendency to plaster their (beautiful) faces with tectonic layers of foundation. As an Eurodude into fashion the difference is quite evident | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 01:36 PM |
| 43 | For men who prefer that women don’t wear makeup or say it’s not necessary - share a picture of a woman you find attractive not wearing makeup?Most men who speak of “no makeup” In reality are tricked by the “natural look”, which actually takes a lot of effort, skill and finesse ETA: …and money, as mentioned in a comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 01:10 PM |
| 10 | Pathological Entitlement in some Men“On here”, exactly. A statistically irrelevant online forum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 11:29 AM |
| 7 | At this point, is being married and having a family just something that doesn’t happen anymore?Take this with a grain of salt, my experience is a bit of a roller coaster, but might add some additional perspective. When I was younger I was broken inside and I promised myself I wouldn't marry and have kids. I put myself back together, and the desire came back, but I wasn't feeling ready. I married and had kids in my upper 30s. Some said "one is never ready enough" and it's true. I especially underestimated the effort of child rearing, and while I work full time an executive job I split the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Are muscles over rated?Sounds like I didn't explain myself correctly. I have yet to find someone with the physique of a Dexter Jackson (if that is what is intended for "very muscular") who is well read, and I run and cycle myself and have been around fit (we used to cycle the passes on the Alps) and (very) well read people. With "lean and muscular" I understand (perhaps it's my lack of understanding) the triathlete type, with very good definition, but not a ridiculous, hulk-ish figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Are muscles over rated?“Very muscular” ∩ “well read” sounds like a very sparsely populated set, to be honest, if for “very muscular” we mean a bodybuilder, or anything beyond a triathlete | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 02:16 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterUnderstood. However, for how threatening and loud some grievances sound, I think they are more about a statistically limited fringe and I don't think they will have a significant impact on the overall trend of societal progress. Sure, it doesn't make being on the receiving end more pleasant, but from what I see (and sure I might be biased) it's a very limited minority of men who want to subjugate women, at least in the West. Also, boys my kids' age are taught equality and also the importance of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 09:20 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterUnfortunately the discourse is far too exacerbated here. And I guess, being a woman, you are considered “culpable” for the selection. I am genuinely sorry if you get attacked for that. However, “natural selection” might (I repeat, “might”) come across with some sinister eugenics infused echo: I am not saying it’s right, but in a society where merit is rewarded (and rightfully so), finding oneself in the “undesirable” group, just because nature dealt one shitty cards is a pill hard to swallow (no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 06:57 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterAgree, but I wasn’t speaking about reasons to have kids, just neutrally observing a societal change. ETA: and to make it clear, since people here have the tendency to make assumptions, I am not pilled in any color, I am for gender equality and against arranged marriages or marriages of convenience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterI see some echo of just world fallacy in OP, whether a good person is entitled to a partner regardless of their attractiveness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 03:50 PM |
| 9 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterEconomic and societal independence and freedom of choice for women are restoring some sort of “natural selection” in the west (excluding immigrants). I am not judging it positively or negatively, just observing: many men who could have had a family a couple decades ago are now destined to not pass on their genes. I’ll be dead at the time, but I’d be genuinely curious to look at the societal outcome a couple generations from now: attractiveness has no correlation with societally positive values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 03:01 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: would you actively seek relationships if men were betterPerhaps men that are decent AND attractive are rare. There is plenty of “decent” (I mean REALLY decent, not the sketchy “nice guys”) men who were dealt shitty cards by the attractiveness lottery who even taking care of their looks and social sphere end up alone. And with this I am by no means implying people should go for partners they are not attracted to, just remark that in a world that has improved and evolved around merit, something as irrational as attraction is a bitch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 02:52 PM |
| 16 | Most Blue Pill men are just “sneaky fuckers” practicing sexual mimicry.I don’t swallow pills of any color. This said, I was surprised to discover how many self-styled feminist men in reality are just simps in disguise. I saw myself many supposedly leftist guys going full Mr. Hyde and becoming frothing misogynists after the ladies they were orbiting around didn’t fall for them. On the other hand, handsome, self-confident men might sound “blue pilled” because they experienced little to no dry spell, hence don’t become embittered, as for them dating is a cakewalk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: What's your feelings towards women?I have several women for each category, pretty much a gaussian distribution. One ex of mine checked all the boxes in this order: 4 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 02:36 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?I had a very troubled past. Surviving, I grew the habit of always trying to put myself in the other’s shoes, but also to expect nothing from anyone. Anything I receive is a gift, anything I give expects no reciprocation. But while I don’t expect to “get”, I have little patience for “takers” or dependent people, I enjoy the association with other independent, honest and self-sufficient people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 02:22 AM |
| 9 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?It doesn’t happen, because I put people at ease, men and women alike. But if someone doesn’t know me and doesn’t feel to trust me, I am absolutely ok, because it’s not personal. They had bad experiences, it’s up to me to gain their trust. Happened with women, with men, at work, but also since I moves abroad. As a foreigner I am tainted by the wrongdoings of assholes I have the misfortune to share the national origin with. When people talk shit about my home country I can either: Take it personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a woman who describes herself as feminist?Exactly. Those who get competitive for the sole sake of proving they are better than the opposite gender are pathetic and insufferable. “Look at meee, me stronk, me boss!1!1!!” Like the nouveau riches can’t display their riches with elegance, some newly empowered people get all cocky and feel the need to pound their chest. I am confident cooler heads will prevail, sooner or later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 03:09 PM |
| -1 | Would you date a woman who describes herself as feminist?Depends. Most women I have been in a relationship with are feminists to some degree, but none has ever dared rubbing any supposed privilege of mine (a victim of abuse and suicide survivor) in my face. But I also had the misfortune to meet an annoying amount of shithead feminazis, cretins with “male tears” mugs and similar retarded crap, who, just because I am a successful man with nordic looks, assumed I am a privileged asshole. Almost made me regret going to rallies for reproductive rights and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 01:28 AM |
| 2 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.I would never ever want to go back to who I was before, but just because I was broken inside already, that relationship only worsened the things. Perhaps, it’s also the reason why it felt so good: I was in such a dark place to begin with, that some affection shined like a supernova. Maybe, starting from a position of self-sufficiency, as it happened with relationships years later, even that one might have not looked as “heavenly” as I thought it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 05:32 PM |
| 1 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.Thank you, it’s nice to look at it that way. Time mended everything, but it was particularly hard. I gambled everything on that relationship and after that I was never able to “feel” the same, it was like my feelings ended up wrapped in scar tissue and got a little numb. I wonder if it’s just about growing older and a little more detached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 04:39 PM |
| 4 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.That’s the story of my most devastating relationship, in fact. A short lived high intensity love story with a fellow musician, who needed therapy. I made the most stupid mistake (I was very young) thinking I could heal her with affection. Of course it didn’t work, but for the first time she acknowledged something was wrong with her and got into the mindset of starting therapy. She then left me abruptly, started her therapy and got into a relationship short after. “The second mouse gets the chees… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.People can change if they work on themselves. I had a chain of unhealthy relationships, sure, the ladies were toxic, but I was as much or worse. I had my phase asking myself “how do I always end up with these people?”, and joke was all on me. I put my stuff together (it was long and painful) but after that everything was better, me, the people I attracted and the relationships that emerged. So while I disagree that people can’t improve, I agree 100% that if they keep on ending with problematic p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:27 PM |
| 4 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.I saw an interesting pattern: the abused spouse stays submissive to their abuser, but become abusers themselves to others, i.e. their kids. Which unhealed become abusive themselves. Sometimes it’s a multigenerational chain that takes some effort to break at some point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:11 PM |
| 2 | If he/she makes a claim that all exes have some some trait you don't like, prepare the exit strategy.I agree, someone ALWAYS ending with someone problematic is problematic themselves, but perhaps in a different way: there are some people with a history of abusive partners who might be submissive, but then turn abusive, for example to their kids. Anyway, if someone brings up a toxic pattern in their relationship history, run for your lives nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:08 PM |
| 1 | In order to really respect you, women need to see you as more terrifying and powerful than a bear.Not my experience. I come from a history of abuse and self-harm: at that time no one respected me, men and women alike, because I was the first not respecting myself. Then I had a “revenge” phase, where I got myself together and would take shit from no one. I commanded respect, but I was intimidating. And while some found thar black aura attractive, they were admittedly scared. Finally I reached a state of calm assertiveness, where I still command respect without inducing fear, and it’s been by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Single Moms Have SexI live in another state in the South, but I am originally European. Been splitting ALL rearing (including bottle, biohazard-grade diaper changing, soothing, waking up 5 times a night with an exec job), and it's just my wife and myself, all family is overseas, and during the pandemic there wasn't even the chance to get non familial help. I am talking about myself, but all men in my American circle are similar. Same back in Europe (central and southern). People date trashy men and then all men bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 08:54 PM |
| 9 | How do you think this "gender war" is going to end?Not a joke actually. Besides the unstable ones, also men that would have only had a chance of reproducing via an arranged marriage or offering only an economic benefit might very well not be passing on their genes. I can’t make any prediction, and I see this neutrally, but selection has been taking place more and more in the past decades in the West, it will be interesting to see the results decades from now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 07:27 PM |
| 13 | Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman?With a collaborative human being, otherwise I don't care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 06:59 PM |
| 2 | How do you think this "gender war" is going to end?Are we sure there is a war outside of here? Anyway: Embittered people will keep on pointing fingers at each other Overly embittered people will sporadically do something bad Other people will adapt to the ever evolving societal norms as they've been doing ever since. Those who won't want to adapt will be left behind In the meantime, while there is no war and there will be no uprising of sorts, it would be nice if the general discourse gets deescalated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 06:55 PM |
| 5 | Are sexual needs a mutual obligation?They are not. You can't force them on someone who doesn't want, full stop. They may well be a good reason to part ways, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Dating would be a lot easier if men would NOT settle for women they aren't attracted too“Having a type” doesn’t imply cheating. Unless he gave a tangible reason, dumping him was uncalled for and honestly immature. Also, men have a fraction of the choice women have: an average Joe could also have Bella Hadid as a “type”, but it would be delulu if he or anyone around him thought he could have a chance - so he dates most likely a “looksmatch” (whatever it means) like most people do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Taking Care of yourself FIRST before other Attracts women as a manI agree with self reflection, nor necessarily with the motives. First and foremost, being one’s best self feels good. No aura, no contract needed. Secondly, self-sufficiency is a must. Starting a relationship, of any kind, from a place of need is a recipe for failure. Confidence can also be faked, and while that trait might be attractive at first, it’s easy to unmask if unsubstantiated. Relationships are no longer a contract for survival, but a mutual choice between peers: a person that adds to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 01:24 PM |
| 2 | “Beta uprising” threats from men who aren’t farmers, mechanics, etc. doesn’t make senseThis, I don’t know what’s more absurd, some unrealistic threats, or the urge to waste time proving them unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 12:59 PM |
| 8 | “Beta uprising” threats from men who aren’t farmers, mechanics, etc. doesn’t make senseSeriously, how many men are foretelling a beta uprising? Does the number even get close to any statistical relevance to evaluate their prevalence in professional groups? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 01:38 AM |
| 4 | How important is "feeling masculine" or "feeling feminine" to you?I think we need to "degender" some traits. Agency, self sufficiency, stoicism, independence etc. should no longer be considered "masculine". It's ok for a man to be vulnerable. It's ok for a woman to be strong. All humans should aim at a degree of self reliance for their own good and that of the society, and be able to temporarily lean on trusted others, when needed (without lingering on that). And about attractiveness, vive la différence. I am also very traditional in my looks but I welcome who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 03:14 PM |
| 6 | Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship?You are right, I forgot to mention that I would make my boundaries crystal clear before starting a commitment. I would also contemplate some exceptions (i.e. yelling in a very tough situation), but otherwise those would be most likely irreparable flaws, or flaws which take too long to fix, and I have no interest in helping fixing. Someone capricious, unstable or untransparent is not for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 02:17 PM |
| 3 | How important is "feeling masculine" or "feeling feminine" to you?I learned to “degender” activities. I am a trained musician, I love art, dance, literature but also fashion and aesthetics in general. I grew up in a traditional European country, my father was absent. I was bullied, even brutally for my “feminine” interests, and I had no one teaching me “manly” stuff. I also never had an interest in watching sports, or doing “boyish” stuff. Growing up, I embraced also more “traditional” activities, but I never cared “gendering” them. Due to my past troubles I a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 02:01 PM |
| 5 | Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship?I have three major no-nos: Head games (includes silent treatment) - I can tell if something’s wrong from a mile away, don’t fuck with me Yelling - I was abused, being yelled at gives me PTSD Unchecked moodiness - I survived a suicide attempt and major depression. If you can’t deal with your mood swings GTFO, I have no patience for capricious brats I kicked more than one lady out of my life without warning the second one line was crossed. One I also have little patience for is lack of self care. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 02:57 AM |
| – | Why do most people on average give such horrible dating advice for men?If I ask for training advice, a good trainer will be able to guide me lift heavier or run faster. At the end, while every physique is different, gravity stays the same and one can set realistic expectations. If instead of taming something as specific as gravity, I try to decode something as annoyingly unpredictable as attraction, advice can only go this far, with no guarantee of success. Also, most advice targets conditions which are necessary (be presentable, be social, don’t be creepy) but NOT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 10:37 PM |
| – | Why do most people on average give such horrible dating advice for men?Point 2 with its whole romcom corollary has to GO, along with the stigma of singlehood (especially during holiday season) and the delusion that attraction can be controlled or tricked. This alone would foster more realistic expectations about dating, and less idiotic tone deaf advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Killing “it” or killing “us”?No need to “broadcast”. Many people, men and women alike are abusive POS ever since. Sure, some are tough to spot because they’re manipulative and deceptive, some simply turn out unfit for the challenge, but many are just unequivocally trash and don’t do a lot to mask it. If one (no matter man or woman) is that much of a cretin not to get the hints just because attraction clouds their judgement, joke’s on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | 80/20 rule origins?I would imagine the reason for the distortion is somehow related to the human urge to quantify and classify. A higher selectivity (a.k.a. hypergamy) is observed in women’s partner choice, which is perfectly reasonable due to the enormous imbalance of investment (the man can walk away post-intercourse, the woman has 9 months of a potentially life threatening condition in front of her). Some try to lock this well known biological scenario to a well known statistical principle, I guess in order to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular opinion: Pressuring women to hurry up and get married and pregnant ASAP actually makes it harder to date/form a "happy family"Doing things under pressure is a recipe for disaster. Threats of a bad future (loneliness, health deterioration and the usual hell by religious buffoons) are just desperate attempts at controlling free will, I assume they will fade away for good in the near future. Starting a family must be yours and your partner’s own desire only, also a huge effort BOTH are willing to take (yep, daddy be prepared to wake up 3/4 times a night to give the bottle, soothe and change diapers) out of own will, not “… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 01:12 PM |
| 3 | 80/20 rule origins?I think he meant “a-scientific” with an alpha privative (like “aromantic”, “asexual” etc.) as per “non scientific”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Despite to contrary belief is a man being non needy and confident not that great for dating success?For my persona (others will certainly have it different), it’s been true in every social interaction, work, relationships and hobbies alike. I used to be more on the introvert side which meant losing “ground” to more outgoing people. I tried to act flamboyant, and it simply wasn’t me. It functions well with the people I prefer mingling with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Despite to contrary belief is a man being non needy and confident not that great for dating success?The only needy men I know who had some kind of success at dating are those able to initially hide their neediness behind an appearance of confidence. As soon as their neediness surfaces, things change real quick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 08:53 PM |
| 4 | “80%” of men are not unequivocally “doomed” to never experience carnal desire and affection from a womanI didn’t imply you did, nor I was questioning what you said, just expanding the discourse simply focusing on the very particular case of people who check all boxes besides the looks. You were mentioning that sometimes it could be behavioral unattractiveness, which can be worked on. But in those cases where it’s really only about really bad looks, I honestly don’t know what can be done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 08:22 PM |
| 4 | “80%” of men are not unequivocally “doomed” to never experience carnal desire and affection from a womanThe merely physically “below average” point is not moot. I don’t believe in pills or percentages, but one thing that drives me nuts even as a fairly successful guy is the bs “there’s someone for everyone out there”. No. There are neurotypical, well adjusted, cultivated, social people who just were dealt shitty cards by genetics and who even pursuing a healthy lifestyle and looksmaxxing might very well never experience intimacy or romance. There is possibly nothing that can be done in this case. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 08:06 PM |
| 3 | Despite to contrary belief is a man being non needy and confident not that great for dating success?I personally found my best working interaction style being “calm assertiveness”, or brag-less self-confidence. I am aware of my strengths and I can exude competence even boldly yet without much ado. The people I mostly relate to despise a braggadocio as much as a faux-modest guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Q 4 Both - How important are things like clothes and body language to your attraction?For me, when I was on the “market”, it depended on the “goal”. For casual stuff not much. If the intent was serious, the posture, elegance, refinement meant a huge lot. I could have fun briefly with someone lacking finesse, but I would get bored fast | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Single doesn’t mean being lonely - you’re focused on the wrong issue“Ils n'ont pas de pain? Qu'ils mangent de la brioche” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Women will emotionally cheat/manipulate/hide things more often but men physically cheat more in a relationship?That is what I meant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 08:55 PM |
| – | Men rank themselves, to our own detrimentI am 6’, average in every part of my body, if anything, having a tough time staying fit as I am aging. I wouldn’t rank very high, I guess, but none of these “metrics” means to me, and to men of my circle. Disclaimer: we are middle aged, educated and international. I am more focused on my personal achievements (or lack thereof), but then again, I’ve had my own path, others their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 06:27 PM |
| 3 | Women will emotionally cheat/manipulate/hide things more often but men physically cheat more in a relationship?The problem here doesn’t seem to be lack of chemistry, more so of honest communication. According to wife’s report, the husband has started giving less and less attention (“the things he used to do”), to which she responded distancing herself. Two mature adults would have tried to solve it bringing up what was going on before letting the chemistry fade away | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Women will emotionally cheat/manipulate/hide things more often but men physically cheat more in a relationship?Lack of communication is not cheating. But still I can’t understand why do couples let things fester until it’s too late. I don’t think a couple can survive without honest communication, even if there’s no cheating involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 04:23 PM |
| – | What should a late virgin do?Thanks. And for the nothing that it's worth, I do hope things will get better for you too, one way or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 02:48 PM |
| – | What should a late virgin do?It’s just my personal experience, but it’s not over until it’s over. I had major personal issues which resulted in a suicide attempt and several years of isolation. I put the pieces back together and got back to the dating scene with a significant relationship gap. I basically lost all the fun years. Guess what? It’s not rocket science (there is also “literature” everywhere about how to do it “right”, which wasn’t available some years ago). First of all not all women have been in dozens of relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 02:21 PM |
| 2 | What would you consider a slutty outfit?I'd say that an overly tight outfit displaying buttcrack and camel toe in all their glory looks sluttier than a more skin-exposing but elegant sundress | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 02:19 AM |
| 2 | What would you consider a slutty outfit?For me “slutty” doesn’t mean “up for sex”. That sounds dangerously on the lines of “if she wore that, she was looking for it”. To me “slutty” means vulgar, over revealing and attention seeking. Too short, too open, too transparent, too heavy (make up), too high (heels), too loud, too much swaying. For my personal aesthetics, “slutty” is a major turnoff, whereas the “right” display of elegance and femininity can be explosive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:57 AM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenDepends on what one wants. I need someone who’s well traveled, cultivated, well versed in science, history, politics and socioeconomics, mastering at least two or three arts/crafts, outdoorsy, profound and also with whom I am compatible from a sexual standpoint. For me, the last point is just one of many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 08:00 PM |
| 4 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?I would like - An end to bs romcom. The beauty queen will never be attracted by the ugly underdog, and it’s ok - An end to stigmatization of being single, especially on holiday. People have agency to make the best of their relationship status, but being constantly perceived as a loser doesn’t help - Once cleared the previous point, some emotional education to self-sufficiency. It’s fair not to be happy alone, but at least being able to stay stable and be self-reliant is necessary to start any ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:33 PM |
| 5 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?The only thing I couldn’t do is breastfeeding them, as I am not bodily equipped, but I did wake up to give them the bottle, change them or, more often than not, soothe them. There was no such thing as “my time” until recently, where they have gotten more independent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman?Both, but also conventional roles. When the whole social narrative has been about being “the leader”, “the provider” and whatnot some disorientation is understandable when things change. It will take time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:44 AM |
| 20 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?To be fair, the real implications of child rearing are often not pondered enough in advance: too many people (mostly men) don’t even get close to realize what it really entails, especially if one wants to make it right, without delegating parenting time to screens or videogames like too many do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:32 AM |
| 60 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Yes, I did, and I am doing 50/50. Everyone told me "don't wait too long, you'll never be ready enough", and it's true, and while I wish I had more energy, it's important to be ready to sacrifice almost everything. And I admit, it has been much tougher than I thought, it's a shame so men underestimate it. SAHMs are not given their due. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 09:28 PM |
| 2 | If you, as a straight man, could get sex as easily as a gay man…I liked a lot having casual sex and unfortunately I had only a minuscule fraction of what I would have desired. Now I am in a committed relationship with kids and I have other priorities. I regret not having had the fun I wished I could have at the time, but that season is long gone, I would not be interested now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 09:00 PM |
| – | Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?You are conflating white trash hillbillies (not speaking of Westbrook now) picking up snakes with their bare hands with masters of manipulation à la Christian Grey, with nincompoops that shit their pants if they take a step into the wild. I was a member of one of the oldest alpine clubs back in Europe and all of us, from the PhD to the blue collar have the utmost respect for nature. There was plenty of reckless women skiers that had to be saved by the air ambulance, but does it matter that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 04:01 AM |
| 3 | Passport bros are actually hurting western men’s reputation in some countries“Online” is the word. When I was in Thailand many years ago, even avoiding places like Pattaya I found gammons everywhere behaving like the filthiest animals. Sexual tourism has been a plague for decades, the difference now is it can be called out more easily with social medias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Passport bros are actually hurting western men’s reputation in some countriesNope. Western men have had a very bad rep for decades now and for a good reason. When I traveled to South America, to Southeast Asia, (but also to Eastern Europe in the mid 1990s) I was offered “services” quite often, sometimes even by the relatives of the ladies, just because of my stupidly Northern looks. And when I declined, the pimps got all aggressive, questioning my motives for being in those places. It’s nauseating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros are actually hurting western men’s reputation in some countriesOr russian | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 03:24 AM |
| – | Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?Why? I guess to corroborate your juvenile overgeneralizations (“men have zero fucking survival skills” etc.), based mostly on what appear to be personal grievances. If a fact of “5 years ago” in reality happened 13 years ago, who knows if those envenomations you supposedly witnessed were 20, or if they were all jackasses fucking with danger noodles? It’s no news that uneducated men are more reckless, but tarring the whole (or a consistent majority) of the gender with a brush soaked in incompeten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 03:15 AM |
| – | Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?Checking facts to see if an agitated person is making up bullshit to discredit a gender she is glaringly upset against is now "stalking"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 01:49 AM |
| – | Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?Was that Chum Baker from Tuscaloosa, AL in 2019? Because he was bitten while walking his dog and died of anaphylactic shock. Poor man was allergic and was particularly unlucky. However, even if I never dared touching one without a Snake Stix (yep, men are not all fucking idiots), coppers’ bites are rarely fatal (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S107275151100007X), there are several articles about Baker and other three deaths in the 2010s (Timothy Levins, 2014 and Terry Brown… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 01:45 AM |
| 5 | Is there a solution for women’s delusion and inflated standards?I can’t predict the future, but are we sure it’s a “passing trend”? What I am seeing passing, slowly but inexorably, are religions with their gender oriented prescriptions and traditions. In addition, women can have a career and have children through a sperm bank. What I am seeing happening is the decline of the nuclear family as we know it, and perhaps the rise of a new kind of consortium of trusted people around the mother, akin to the proverbial “village” or a somewhat regulated version of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 09:05 PM |
| 26 | Passport bros are actually hurting western men’s reputation in some countriesLOL, have you ever seen an english tourist (a.k.a. gammon/chav) on a European beach? Americans (I am double citizen, also American) while being pigshit ignorant and complaining aren’t dangerous and leave conspicuous tips. The english are as pigshit ignorant, complain even more, don’t tip anywhere close, get blackout drunk, throw up everywhere and start brawls in every pub. Men and women alike. They are a plague. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 08:14 PM |
| – | Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?Depends on how close to the grizzly I am. If I am within the clawing distance of a defensive mama bear, I’d take the man: assuming the man also has no weapon, there are good chances I can outpower him. If I am at a safe distance, I’d rather take the grizzly, as I dealt with enough wildlife in my decades of hiking, I wouldn’t risk to get trapped with a random guy that might have Mike Tyson’s muscles and Charles Manson’s psyche. I am sure my answer isn’t satisfactory, but to be honest, while the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 06:43 PM |
| – | Changes post “I do”I’ll bite. Leery ladies won’t believe me, but I am one of the many men fully sharing household and child rearing duties with my wife. We made a point of discussing every minutiæ to make sure there is no incomprehension about one side doing too much. Cleared the field from revenges (“you don’t clean? No bj for you”), things between us have evolved in the years we’ve been together. At the beginning it was everything, everywhere at any time, until groin pain made it unpleasant. I can’t remember the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantI don’t know, as for me “chivalry” has always been just a way of being and never a means to an end, I am a late gen-x/x-ennial, born and raised in an overly traditional country with a tendency to pomp. First I moved to the US, I kept on with “chivalrous” acts, like holding doors, offering to help carrying weights, pulling the chair to let the lady seat, helping her with her coat when leaving, complimenting (lightly, never overly) a dress or a hairstyle. I have to say, it was almost always well r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 04:36 PM |
| – | "redpilled" and NOT misogynistic?The “olympian calm” is one of the most seductive traits a person can sport. It’s not arrogance or smug confidence, is more akin to ataraxia, but is not detached, and can feel contagious. It’s good to have such people around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 06:19 PM |
| – | "redpilled" and NOT misogynistic?“Grace” is the word. Far too many people are oblivious or never experienced it. Average looks + grace > superior looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 06:11 PM |
| – | Do you feel like couples who need to say "they're happy" on social media rather are the opposite, and aren't actually in fact happy and how fake in general social media is, especially nowadays?Yes. Warren Buffett is also known for not wasting money in flashy stuff. It’s also a matter of finesse: people of worth (not just wealth) not only don’t need to show off, they find it vulgar and rightfully so. There is nothing more nouveau-riche than ostentation. Back in Europe, the disgust for oligarchs and other riffraff that has been infesting previously elegant places is more than palpable. What I find mean besides vulgar, is ostentation in places of difficulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 02:48 PM |
| 4 | Would men actually be happy if dating were easy?“Overcoming difficult odds” is a thing. But “difficult” is not the same as “impossible”. In most fields of life, hard work and dedication pay off, to some degree, be that education, work, sport, etc., while not a guarantee, odds of success are better for dedicated people. And work is the basis of meritocratic societies, which are the most successful ones. Now, our individual put effort in every field and reaped the rewards of his hard work, according to this logic, dating would work the same. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men?Utter bs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men?Didn’t want to sound I take coppers easily. Back in Europe I enjoyed walking barefoot everywhere possible, here in the South only if the grass is low. I try to raise my kids as outdoorsy and wild as little tarzans, but it’s not like more temperate areas. As per the pbs, many people here tend to use it as an umbrella term for both the “smoky brown” (aka “water bug”) that crawls in when it rains and by sensible thermal excursion and the American, the sewer dweller, filth embodied, that isn’t as fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel like couples who need to say "they're happy" on social media rather are the opposite, and aren't actually in fact happy and how fake in general social media is, especially nowadays?Between all fake and all genuine there can be nuances | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men?Problem with PBs is that they are nocturnal. A hotweels sized bundle of ick with hellish long antennas that shows up on a wall from nowhere when you turn a light on and disappears lightning fast in the most remote hole you’ll never find, and you know it’s there and will come out again without you knowing. I wouldn’t speak about “fear” but the disgust is huge. I do myself pest control for my house and some friends’ and while I have no issue handling copperheads, roaches still nauseate me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel like couples who need to say "they're happy" on social media rather are the opposite, and aren't actually in fact happy and how fake in general social media is, especially nowadays?It’s fairly easy to tell apart genuine happiness from showoff, it just takes a little finesse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel like couples who need to say "they're happy" on social media rather are the opposite, and aren't actually in fact happy and how fake in general social media is, especially nowadays?“Any man who must say, ‘I am the king’ is no true king” Same as those who post inspirational stuff like “I’m stronger, nothing can bring me down”, in the hope of convincing other people when in reality it’s themselves they have to convince. In vulgar and shallow cultures like the US, there is another factor to consider though (that we often see here in this sub as well): when someone has it good for themselves (or is able to pretend) they have the uncontrollable urge to shout it from the rooftop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 12:49 PM |
| 0 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?Of course. I speak of casual stuff only, which, at the time, I would have preferred not to be into, but alas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?I personally loved being hit on. I am a reserved, pensive personality, but I also have an annoyingly robust sex drive, and while I value an LTR the most, I used to really enjoy no-strings-attached casual sex. I find “conventional” flirting shallow and childish but it’s difficult to get into situations without it, hence why I really liked (I talk of pre dating apps times) being the chased one and not the chaser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 02:25 PM |
| – | Men cannot escape friendzone for this reasonNo looks/no pers: no interest/creep Looks/No pers: ONS/casual sex (if one is into it) No looks/pers: platonic (friendzone) Looks/pers: LTR (FWB for lack of commitment) And “looks” is not always objective: some women fancy apemen who could very well be the missing link, some prefer diaphanous, feminine dudes, and everything in between. One thing for sure: you can’t force attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 01:59 PM |
| 4 | Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage?I have been lurking from before I started this alt, and I started commenting only recently. I am genuinely concerned about the discourse deteriorating and it pains me how much the “camps” demean each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 03:21 AM |
| 7 | Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage?Agreed. And there is nothing wrong in not knowing a situation to the last detail. I wish the discourse wasn’t so heated up and the different “factions” could understand each other more easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 03:08 AM |
| 28 | Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage?I share parenting duties with my wife, I am a tech exec with a fairly stressful job, yet, the most exhausting part of my week is child rearing. A SAHM doing it all has a colossal work to do, doesn’t get paid and gets little to no reward, even worse if she had to give up her career, I don’t understand how can this be so underestimated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Do guys understand that how attractive you are dictates how your compliment is received?A compliment can stoke a fire but won’t start it. If one is attractive, but their interest is not attracted nonetheless, the compliment might flatter the interest but won’t create any attraction. If there is some attraction (which might exist regardless of how “objectively” attractive one is), the right compliment can literally start fireworks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 12:50 AM |
| 15 | Do guys understand that how attractive you are dictates how your compliment is received?Stopping simping and orbiting would be good for everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 11:40 PM |
| – | Women accept being alone better than menApparently more women attempted suicide than men, but more men die due to the more violent chosen methods https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4009420-more-women-attempt-suicide-more-men-die-by-suicide/amp/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 11:27 PM |
| 7 | A more comprehensive post on why women handle being alone better than men, and why we need to find solutions to that.<image> World according to ‘murricans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 09:47 PM |
| 2 | A more comprehensive post on why women handle being alone better than men, and why we need to find solutions to that.There are happy SAHMs and miserable ones, there are fulfilled childless women executives and sad ones, betting one’s own life path based on (questionable) research is a big risk. Unfortunately, the background noise, often further exacerbated by political agendas influences people on choices that should be entirely personal. I for one am sick of the pettiness of the crossfire between the “with child”/“childfree” camps. It’s also important to be ready to question our own previous convictions. When… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 08:22 PM |
| 3 | A more comprehensive post on why women handle being alone better than men, and why we need to find solutions to that.The body goes much further than the title, but most comments revolve around the title alone. As a European in the US, I can only agree that maternity (and the non existent paternity) conditions here are really poor. Back in Europe, in some cases there are maternity and paternity leaves that last months, paid in full, with great reintegration structures. This helps also us dads to make our part better. However (back to the title), more and more women are preferring to have a child on their own, r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you react if your boyfriend told you he stalked you for a while before you got together?Like the lady who wanted to help me fix a piece of woodwork because “women have finer motor skills” and ended up cracking it further. Yep, assuming ability based on gender is bullshit, on any side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 06:02 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: How would you react if your boyfriend told you he stalked you for a while before you got together?I am not throwing anyone under the bus. If anything, I am doing “whataboutism”, which I normally despise and I apologize for, however in this case it was aimed at this circlejerk of almighty wonderwomen vs. clown manlets who seemingly “by design” oversell any competence just to get laid. How I care of humans’ (women and men alike) experiences unfolds IRL, I really have no topic to bring up here, other than challenging rigid views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 03:48 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: How would you react if your boyfriend told you he stalked you for a while before you got together?The question is about “stalking”, which is a serious issue and should be treated by law enforcement. Bringing up incompetence is a tangent, which is alright, as long as it stays away from the trite “all men/all women” bs. just because we think our anecdotes are an absolute. As per the art thing, if I talk about art history, saying “art is subjective” is sesquipedal horseshit. You might have meant “aesthetics”, but art is human production, with its own techniques (e.g. chiaroscuro) and a history … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 03:19 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: How would you react if your boyfriend told you he stalked you for a while before you got together?Reminds me of that “expert skier” lady I had to carry down on my back because she was petrified by the steepness of the slope. Or the “triathlete” that got cramps biking halfway to one of the dullest alpine passes. I don’t think they were necessarily trying to impress, more so they were underestimating the challenge and that’s ok, didn’t make me feel “superior”. The one I like the most, when I moved to the US, a self styled “art connoisseur” lady invited me to join a fundraising group for a loca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 02:48 PM |
| 2 | A Solution to the Woman making you “wait for sex” problem.Not necessarily. I happened to have sex at the first date with ladies who were up for more than a ONS. I sincerely don’t play head games, but the fact that I was not pressuring them, letting them know, smiling, that I was ready to drive them home or call a cab at their choice perhaps made them feel safer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 02:09 AM |
| 6 | Do you need to have seen a man's flirty/sexual side before you can want him?I agree. Connection can be established fairly swiftly by plucking the right strings, even if they are hidden. Sharing a sentiment for a piece of art can set the thing on fire in a shorter time (booster if it’s niche) and certainly deeper than shallow, childish “flirting”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:52 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?That’s some cool comradeship! Cheers to you and your group | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:37 PM |
| 9 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?I had no such chance. I had the disgrace to be born in an extremely sexist country, where “conquering” was everything. Boys over there should never appear “unsuccessful” or expose their weaknesses. About your last question it’s certainly time, to learn how to support each other, to assist each other navigating struggles in dating, including learning self-sufficiency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:33 PM |
| 9 | 4b movement isn’t so badAnd even in South Korea, we talk about thousands of people, not exactly anything close to a critical mass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:21 PM |
| 19 | 4b movement isn’t so badGo for it, see what happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Can you prove women's alleged "mental load"?It being wonderful and fulfilling is possibly one of the reasons why so many uninvolved people underestimate and devalue the titanic effort behind it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 05:23 PM |
| – | "Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years aloneObjectively yes. An adult man will most likely be worse off than a young guy, not just from a health standpoint. On the other hand, he will likely also be a little more resigned and numbed by life, which might make things less painful to carry than for an over sensitive youngster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:32 PM |
| – | "Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years aloneIt’s not hurtful. Self-sufficiency is a must have, full stop. No good relationship can blossom from a place of need, while leaning on the other is reasonable from time to time, we can’t expect the other one to be a full time, unpaid therapist (or worse). This said though, while self-sufficiency is necessary for life, it might very well not be enough. An acquaintance with no mental issue, very intelligent and extraordinarily cultivated, decided to take his life because his lonely life wasn’t wort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:07 PM |
| 5 | Can you prove women's alleged "mental load"?A lot changes when kids get into the picture, then it’s not just about remembering dates or making lists. I have been sharing the duties with my wife (even if she is SAH) and I admit I wasn’t prepared. - They wake up at any given time, are they hungry? If they are breastfed, the load is entirely on the woman. Are they just fussy? It could mean waking up 5 or more times in one night, for weeks or months, it’s a nightmare. - They need constant attention. It eases with the time, but at the beginnin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Would “emotional labor” be better described as “consideration overload”?I wonder what kind of deadbeat riffraff you have been dealing with, sounds like you live in some middle eastern underdeveloped place. That’s not the norm in civilized environments with both parents working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 05:26 PM |
| – | Turns Out, Blue Pill Bros are the Real Red Pill Salesmen!It’s no rocket science. Inhibitions and fears can be solved (a compassionate partner might expedite this, but not many are willing to go through this), like many other mental superstructures. Once they are out of the way, if one puts the effort to discover what pleases the other and works toward that goal, while keeping an adequate stamina, great results can be achieved. It really doesn’t take a hung like a horse superhero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Would “emotional labor” be better described as “consideration overload”?“Most men” sounds a tad overblown to me. All families with both working parents I am in touch with, both in the US and overseas where I am from seem to balance the loads adequately (if one does nightshifts or WFH there are adjustments). And while it’s my anecdotal experience, I am speaking of a quite articulated sample in terms of age, education, ethnicity and national origin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Would “emotional labor” be better described as “consideration overload”?It’s changing. I and all other dads in my circle (my kids’ school) do know all of the above and perform actively. We are indeed a fairly educated bunch, but I am reasonably confident it will become the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair)In my case it’d depend on how good of a poet/artist my lady is. An ex was a painter, made a sketch portrait of me (didn’t take her longer than a bj) and I still hold it dearly many years later. I composed music for my wife and exes and was always well received, better than flashy gifts. But sometimes the best gift is an extra hour of sleep on a Saturday morning while preparing breakfast and entertaining the kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:40 PM |
| 7 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youI agree, “just fix yourself” is a jerk response like many seen around here, from people who have no idea. Pun aside, self sufficiency, might very well not be sufficient, but is necessary. Fixing oneself doesn’t make up for the missed experiences, hugs and intimacy and never will. It builds the foundation for a stable relationship. I can only speak for myself, but when I was “broken”, my relationships didn’t last, and the troubles outnumbered the good moments by a long shot. Yes, the lost years h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youI know it’s not worth a lot, but I sincerely feel for you. I was abused as a child, attempted suicide in my 20s, suffered of depression myself, untreated for a long time. I was able to somehow put (most of) the pieces back together, but like kintsugi pottery scars show and always will. It was a desert crossing of personal introspection that reached a sustainable point (I guess it will never come to an end) when I was around 30. Once I achieved that self sufficiency I was able to date again, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:36 PM |
| 3 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youAgreed. I experienced bad ones and was a bad one myself. I was able to fix myself to a sustainable extent, some don’t have such chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youI would say “improves” but not “fixes”. Starting a relationship from a position of need or pain is most likely a recipe for disaster. One has to fix their own issues to an acceptable extent first, then, from a position of self-sufficiency they will be able to enjoy a relationship at best. This doesn’t mean one isn’t allowed to have and display their own vulnerabilities and get support from a caring partner in a moment of difficulty, the problem occurs when one expects their partner to become the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 08:34 PM |
| – | The emergence of men who hate women on social media: why do men do this?The video is a *-bait to begin with. Why limit the impressions to the “yA go gUrL1!1!!!” reactions when she could harvest thousands of negative engagements as well? «There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about» If she wanted to profit from a boys vs. girls flame she succeeded quite well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 04:02 AM |
| 2 | Thought experiment: describe your ideal companionEuropean like me Age: around mine Personality: confident, calm, adventurous, elegant. Not shallow/flirtatious Sex: we must desire each other profoundly Interests: musician, art and history buff, well traveled (30+ countries), multilingual (at least 3) outdoorsy (likes cycling, hiking, skiing and camping in the wild), enjoys fine dining and wines, must have a craft she works to improve (painting, embroidery, cooking…) Values: a lady, with modern beliefs, non-religious, sticks to science How do yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 02:06 AM |
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