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| 80 | The main issue with men nowadays.. | Fundamentals | DenverPUA | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 11:13 PM |
| 11 | This should be good encouragement! | Fundamentals | DenverPUA | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 03:50 AM |
| 5 | Stop texting these hoe$ | Fundamentals | DenverPUA | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 03:03 PM |
| 1 | This new generation of PUA's- Weak? | Outer Game | DenverPUA | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 01:53 PM |
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| 0 | When are you going to farYou should always lead. I tell a woman, "Sat, 10 pm, lets do Johnny's, good food and atmosphere". That is it. You dont need to ask her anything else. I usually say "I will be there"- If she doesnt show up, fuck her, you will be there anyways. I make my own fucking decisions, I dont run them by women- only betas do that. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 02:18 PM |
| 27 | Attraction is not created by what you logically say but instead by what you emotionally convey. This is why intelligent technically minded people often fail at casual conversation.I am an Engineer but I am not your stereotypical. When I was in school, I hated being around nerds- Most of my friends were non-Engineering majors. I have a friend who is a stereotypical nerd and I think he is beyond any help. He has no problems starting a conversation with random girls but within 2 minutes, most girls are creeped out- it has a lot to do with delivery, his insecurities all come to the surface and he does not know how to close. I observed him once at a place and it was very cring… | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 12:56 PM |
| 0 | How to regain the sexual attraction that a girl once had?That is the right attitude. Dont give these hoes any control over your life and your emotions. She probably ain't all that anyways. If a bitch flakes on you all the time, never spends time with you at a place that could lead to sex, you better believe she is playing you, dont believe anything she says. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 10:50 AM |
| 1 | I work for a modelling agency, so you could definitely say I’m attractive physically, but I find it hard to get past the friendship level with girls Any advice on how to flirt and escalate?Need to get past all the BS social conditioning that was offered to you by your parents and by Gynocentric society, it is all garbage. You need to get rid of all your white knight/beta cuck tendencies before you start to feel "normal" | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 09:47 AM |
| 1 | How to regain the sexual attraction that a girl once had?You people are just being played, you are one of her beta orbiters and you don't even realize it. The ex boyfriend is probably fucking her everyday and you guys keep giving her validation and putting her on a pedestal. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 04:18 AM |
| 2 | How to maintain a relationship with a girl after hooking up.You dont tell me what to do. I want OP to be a big pimp. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 03:57 AM |
| 2 | Approached 2 girls sitting with each other last night at the barI will give you something to think about. When I was in my 20's, I hated job interviews, it is very similar to daygame, main issues were insecurities, nervousness and awkwardness. I am in my 40's and now I get excited about job interviews- same thing with approaching, you need to find out what your insecurities are and work on them. At one point, you wont have to think ahead of what you are gonna say, that can make it awkward, the conversation should flow naturally. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Ever create friction on purpose?You don't plan this type of shit out, you just do it. One time I went skiing with this girl, I teased her the entire day. I could give two shits if she liked it or not, I had fun. Put yourself in the girls shoes- would you find a guy who agrees with everything you say and is wiling to drop everything to cater to your needs interesting? | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 12:14 AM |
| 20 | Asked two different girls for directions todayGood job. Anything helps but it is almost like going to the gym. If you stop going for two, three weeks, you have to almost start over, so it needs to become a habit. Right now, I am pretty rusty, I go through periods where I really dont give a shit about women but you need to have some motivation to keep doing what you are doing. I last got laid 3 weeks ago and pussy is not even one of my top 10 priorities in life right now. If it is for you, keep at it. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 11:41 PM |
| 8 | What makes some guys don't care when they get rejected and others think about it for weeks?Great point. Your self worth should NEVER be tied to women. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 11:33 PM |
| 3 | What makes some guys don't care when they get rejected and others think about it for weeks?Confidence vs Non-Confidence. If you know who you are, rejection may bruise your ego a bit but you will bounce back and be like "Screw that dumb bitch, I know who I am- she aint nothing" The guy that has no confidence will be like "Omg, she rejected me, there is gotta be something wrong with me" then his whole core collapses because deep inside, he does not know who he is-not to mention that a lot of these guys were programmed to cater to women, so a woman's opinion to them is soooo fucking impo… | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 10:38 PM |
| 3 | my friends have a bad rep at the barWhy should they give a shit about what a girl thinks of them? Is she paying their bills or something? | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 10:07 PM |
| 3 | How to maintain a relationship with a girl after hooking up.Exactly. I dont know why the fuck any man would want to bring up relationship before she does. If you are fucking her on a regular basis, that is all that matters. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 10:04 PM |
| 4 | How to maintain a relationship with a girl after hooking up.She should be the one asking if you want to be in a relationship, not YOU and your answer should always be vague, "We will see" is a good answer. If she doesnt like that answer, fuck her. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Just need to ramble about my issues with casual dating and leading girls on. Not feeling good about myself right nowI dont know how old you are, I am in my 40's and trust me, you gain nothing by being some woman's therapist or her emotional tampon. I am sure you understand the concept of "monkey branching"- Once a woman loses respect for you, she has already moved on. You will be sitting there, wasting your time listening to her bullshit while she is already monkey branching. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 07:08 PM |
| 1 | 7 month progress report and my storyLove to hear these stories. I am older than most people here but I still learn some new shit everyday. Everything I know about women and relationships was through the school of hard knocks- heartbreaks and also a lot of education. It sucks that most men have to go through a lot of BS, suffering and financial loss to finally learn not to put women on a pedestal- I know guys in their 60's that still live like cucks- their whole purpose in life is to cater to pussy. They are losers. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Best sliding into DM’s Guide?Because you are a bunch of thirsty, beta orbiters. Why the fuck would I want a girl's Instagram? Unless you want to be another one of her thirsty, beta orbiters. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 04:17 PM |
| -1 | Does it ever stop ?What the hell are you talking about? You lost me. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 01:58 PM |
| -10 | Does it ever stop ?Settling down is for beta cucks. I am 43 and I am going to "settle down" only when I am an old, wrinkly man that no woman wants to go near. I do well financially, so you can always find a younger woman- a fuckable 50 year old is still OK if you are an old man. Dump this hoe and go back to being you. I am very worried about this statement " I really love my girlfriend and I'm happy"- sounds like beta cuck, fucking white knight language. A true player would never say shit like this, so yes, I am w… | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 01:27 PM |
| 5 | What are usefull daily habits when it comes to seduction?The useful daily habits should be for your own self improvement, not for women. Going to the gym everyday or every other day is one of the best things you can do. Right now, I go 5 times a week. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 01:02 PM |
| 0 | Just need to ramble about my issues with casual dating and leading girls on. Not feeling good about myself right nowNo man should be "managing" a hoe's emotions. This is exactly what a lot of fucking thirsty betas do. Before you realize, these motherfuckers become the hoe's personal therapist. Who the hell wants to waste 2 hours listening a hoe's BS? She needs to find a fucking therapist and that is not your job or responsibility. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:53 PM |
| 0 | Just need to ramble about my issues with casual dating and leading girls on. Not feeling good about myself right nowAnother example of a totally wrong mindset. Stop catering to women and giving a shit about what they think and don't think, fuck them, it is about you, not them. What a woman wants or expects from you is totally irrelevant. Who the fuck cares? | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Just need to ramble about my issues with casual dating and leading girls on. Not feeling good about myself right now"I guess I just have a problem with being too nice in person. Does anyone else have this type of personality? I wish I could be less of a nice guy, but it's just who I am" I put that statement in bold because I want you to fucking think about you just said. That is like saying "I wish I could be less of a simp and a white knight but it is just who I am"- Sounds totally pathetic and beta like, doesnt it? Not trying to be a jerk but I want you to study this statement. What this means to me is that… | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:48 PM |
| 3 | The stumbling blockMake your intentions clear from the get go. "Spend a number of hours with them flirting and bantering"- Why? This is a complete fucking waste of time. Example: Talk to one hoe for 30 minutes and at the end, she tells you she has a boyfriend vs talk to a hoe for 3 minutes and at the end, she tells you she has a boyfriend. Same fucking outcome for you and you did not waste half an hour validating some hoe you don't even know. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:40 PM |
| 2 | Best sliding into DM’s Guide?True words. All this social media BS makes you lazy. Delete all this shit, FB, IG, etc. That will force you to start approaching especially if you are a thirsty beta. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:27 PM |
| 0 | Does denying sex or not showing that you want it that bad benefit you?Exactly. I still don't understand what his motivation is though? | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:20 PM |
| 3 | 7 month progress report and my storyGood stuff right there. Some people never take action and just live mediocre lives, it sounds like you are on the right track to a better life. " At no given time are 'girls' or 'pussy' on my radar, who I am as a man and my goals and ambitions come first' This statement pretty much describes how I live my life. Fuck hoes, my goals come first. Sadly, the majority of men out there are nothing but beta cucks. Pay attention to any close friends of yours or family members that are married, most are j… | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 06:42 AM |
| 1 | How to get girls to approach you?You would have to understand that, most women would worry that they are coming off too aggressive if they come on to a man, not to mention that no woman wants to be seen as a slut. That's why women flirt instead. It is much more socially acceptable way to give a man they find attractive or interesting the hint they're open to an overture from him. That usually works if the man is interested. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 04:37 AM |
| 0 | Does denying sex or not showing that you want it that bad benefit you?I guess, it all depends on what your goals are. Are you looking to get married? If you are doing this because you want a woman to look at you and be like "Look at this guy, he is not like all the other guys out there"- that is simping right there. If I were you, I would try to smash hoes and fuck what they think. Are you trying to be a "nice guy?", I guess I would have to understand your motivation and your goals here. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Have girls become bitchier post Covid?Not surprised. Thank the armies of thirsty, desperate beta cucks willing to do anything for a third rate, smelly pussy. It is really simplistic to say that women suck and why they do this, that and what not but if you really use your brain- a lot of this bitchy behavior exists because you have a lot of weak men out there that are willing to put up with it. If I catch a bitch slipping, I put her in her place immediately. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:30 AM |
| 1 | What advice can you give to someone who cant even imagine himself datingYour mind is a powerful thing. If you have already established that dating is not for you, then it wont be. Women are really good at picking up on the vibes you give off and you can fake confidence all you want, if you don't even believe in yourself, why should she believe in you? Unless you address your personal issues and have a plan for personal growth, all you are going to attract are female versions as awkward as yourself. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:21 AM |
| 3 | [FR] Build tension and get out of the friendzoneThe TLDR lessons learned show that most of the "education" young people are getting from their parents these days is all bullshit and counterproductive. Literally, I have helped hundreds of young dudes here in Denver and it is almost like retraining their minds to start acting like a real man should- the simping, the white knighting, the beta male traits are so fucking ingrained in the upbringing. Thank God, I don't have children but I would never raise them to be beta males and cucks. | /r/seduction | 18/10/20 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Guideline for SeductionI don't like formulaic stuff. You should try to be a natural and that comes with being at a point in your life where you happy with yourself, your career, your goals, your finances, etc which where I am now. Not hating on your approach but I detest certain PUA's like that Indian-Canadian guy, Justin Marc, he sounds so fake and so full of shit. Aaron was another PUA that was so full of crap, he was from Columbus, OH- Not sure what happened but his channel is gone and all his videos are nowhere to… | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 06:53 PM |
| 0 | Using "pull-push technique" is considered as manipulation?Right, women don't manipulate or deceive, only men do that. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 06:33 PM |
| 1 | How to reduce neediness?Well said. Two guys fighting over a woman is dumb. 50 orbiters competing over one Instagram hoe, dumb AF. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]Agreed. He probably fucked it up by the language and the words he used. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]Wrong. "Shall I come over?" sounds totally beta, like you need her validation before you make a decision. This is the kind of stuff Steve Urkel would say to a girl. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]Who the fuck wants to "hang out" with some woman at 2:30 am. We are out to fuck and get ours right? "Shall I come over?"- That is beta cuck language, who does that? You motherfuckers are disappointing me, for reals. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]Where the fuck would you go at 2:30 am if not to her place or a hotel room? The whole "Shall I come over?" is the most beta male sounding shit I can think of. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 12:02 PM |
| 4 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]I don't claim to be a fucking badass but choice of language and how you express yourself is huge. Sometimes I wish I could grab some of you and shake you like "Wake up". I will continue to preach this to this group because this is so important- STOP CATERING TO WOMEN, fuck them. It is about you, not them. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 11:46 AM |
| 5 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]Your homework today will be to study the following statement-" Okay cool. I have half a bottle of wine shall I come over?" | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:45 AM |
| 4 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]" Doesnt automatically mean she wanted to hang out there. "- You are programmed to cater to women and their wants. This is exactly what I mean about changing the whole mindset, who the fuck cares what she thinks or what she wants- it is about you not her. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:34 AM |
| 0 | Had girl in bed with Netflix and she just leftThere is nothing more beta and cuck like than going on a coffee date. A "coffee date" is way for a woman to test who you are with very low investment on her part. I can guarantee you, you don't hear of many guys that got laid after a coffee date. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Saying only what's necessaryHer current romantic situation is her fucking problem, not yours. If you want to have the right mindset, assume every single woman you approach is not taken. And if they are, they should bring it up to you. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Busting sticking points : my journey with pickupPower to you, keep doing what you are doing. I am in my 40's but one thing I notice about many young guys is how bad their social skills are. I am not sure if this has something to do with being in front of a computer all day and not being taught to socialize in a normal and healthy way. But when I go hiking here in Colorado, I like to say "Hi" or "Good morning" to everybody I see. Most people my age are OK and like to start small talk. The younger people, I would say more guys than girls can be… | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:16 AM |
| 2 | The main issue with men nowadays..Spot on, brother. I was watching this Youtube video where this beta cuck was saying that if a woman is having a bad day or being a bitch, you should not react. You should just sit there and listen to her BS. This is exactly what is wrong with the world we are living in. If I catch a bitch slipping, I put her in her place, I am not taking any bullshit from women, a lot of these women need years of therapy though- I notice a lot of them are not looking for a real man though, they want a personal t… | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 10:00 AM |
| 2 | The main issue with men nowadays..7asas: Thanks for sharing this, perfect example of what I am talking about. I used to work at this place and one of the managers, mind you, the guy was almost 60 years old, told me something similar, this fucking loser was almost in tears telling me this story- his dream was to buy the home he grew up in but his wife did not think it was a good idea. What a fucking beta cuck. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 09:43 AM |
| 4 | Direct the flow of conversation when you have set an objective [FR]"Okay cool. I have half a bottle of wine shall I come over?"- This statement is the perfect example of beta male language. Not trying to disrespect you but there is a whole mindset there that needs to be changed. Stop asking women to validate your actions- If she already said "My place", you should have said "I am on my way" or "See you in 10". When I am setting up a date, I tell a woman "Lets go to Johnny's, good food, I like that place, Saturday at 9 pm"- A lot of motherfuckers are like "How a… | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 09:37 AM |
| 1 | was this a shit test?If it was a shit test or not, does that change anything or is it really important now?. Women often times don't make any fucking sense so stop wasting all this time and energy thinking about the "what ifs"- Move on and find somebody else. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Should I quit texting this girl?Best advice I can give you: Stop trying to fucking understand women, often times, they don't make any fucking sense, so the best thing you can do is to not focus all your energy and time on one woman, either have none or have two or three on rotation. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Forget all the womenI am single, have a good job(Engineer), drive a nice car, financially stable, I have no fucking desire to marry any of these hoes or have kids. One thing I notice is that most women like a man with alpha qualities, especially if you are emotionally unavailable(I heard from a lot of women I am emotionally unavailable, not willing to commit, etc). Once they realize they will never be able to control you, they get scared and move on. Most women these days deep inside want a man with beta qualities … | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 03:09 AM |
| 3 | When women test you, they are providing you with an opportunity for you to prove yourselfI was going out with this woman. We would go out and have a lot of fun. Then, I would text her, it would take her 2-3 days to respond. I know she was playing some fucking game to see how I would react. At the same time, it was obvious that she was scared of getting involved I finally told her straight up, "If you are scared of opening up and being vulnerable, I don't have time to waste"- Obviously, no comeback after that. You need to be able to gauge this kind of shit and if you feel like it ain… | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 03:00 AM |
| 19 | The main issue with men nowadays..Exactly. I see some absolutely unnattractive women around here, have the shittiest attitude, overweight, ugly AF, yet they always seem to have several guys worshipping them. They can be total bitches and some of these dudes are willing to do anything for some third rate, smelly pussy. If men respected themselves, these women would get a wake up call and things would start to look better, yet too many thirsty motherfuckers around here. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 12:18 AM |
| 2 | How to stop being emotionalYou sound like a certified simp. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 11:04 PM |
| 1 | DAY GAME WINGMAN NOVACollege women are mostly airheads. I have 20 years experience in this game but I am in Denver, CO. Focus on approaching women in their 30's, unless you look like a kid. If you are ever in Denver, reach out. I dont rip people off nor I am scumbag like some of the PUA's. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Stop texting these hoe$Exactly. Perfectly stated. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 06:06 PM |
| -2 | Stop texting these hoe$Flirty through text? That is for betas. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 06:03 PM |
| -1 | Stop texting these hoe$Absolutely. You hit the nail on the head, stop validating women that are not even invested. She probaby has 5 beta orbitters that like every fucking BS she posts on social media. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 06:01 PM |
| -1 | Stop texting these hoe$How do you build attraction through texting?. Give me a clear example. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Stop texting these hoe$Who cares? Stop catering to women. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 03:17 PM |
| -4 | Stop texting these hoe$Of course, most women would disagree. I am trying to help men here, not women. If you waste 3 hours a day BS'ing back and forth with one woman. Cut it short and use that time to set up dates only, have 2 or 3 women on rotation. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 03:14 PM |
| 9 | When women test you, they are providing you with an opportunity for you to prove yourselfExactly. Who gives a fuck if a woman is OK with your response to her shit tests. If a woman is all about shit tests, she is insecure AF. Unless you enjoy playing these middle school games, move on like my brother King said. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Holy sh*t, I need to work on my cold approachExactly. I am not trying to be overly critical of this person but stopping putting women on a fucking pedestal. I would not fight another guy over pussy not even if my girlfriend was Miss Universe. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Had girl in bed with Netflix and she just leftI wonder what a woman is doing here. You must be used to dating thirsty beta males. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Had girl in bed with Netflix and she just leftThe alternative is to say what I say "I dont fucking do coffee dates"- she will look at you surprised but she will respect you, that is because of the armies of thirsty beta males out there willing to do anything for mediocre pussy. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 01:04 PM |
| 3 | My bros, it’s time we stop simping.One other thing. In addition to seeing so many thirsty beta males all over this city, these motherfuckers, as soon as they meet a girl, they put her on a pedestal and make the woman the main focus of their existence. I don't get it but one lesson I learned when I was 19(I am in my 40's now)- never make a woman a priority in your life. If you understand that simple concept, everything will fall into place. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Holy sh*t, I need to work on my cold approach" I stopped him and pushed him away (lightly), thinking he was some jackass trying to swoop" This is a Captain Save-A-Hoe, White Knight move. You don't even know this girl, and you are already trying to save her. Wake up, man. I can only imagine what would have happened if you got into a fight with some stranger over some woman who is probably below average at best. You need to come to your senses and stop simping. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 10:13 AM |
| 4 | Delete The Dating AppsDating apps make you lazy, delete all of them and start approaching women. We all have simped in the past but this will take you to the next level. Most women who use dating apps are broken goods and unatractive. If you were an attractive woman, would you need to be on a dating app to find a man? | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 10:02 AM |
| 1 | The Progress I Have Made Over 4 Years: For Encouragement On Slow ProgressVery good! Next step is, get off these dating apps and start approaching women-that will be the breakthrough you need to solidify all the concepts. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Does “no” always mean “no?”Stop trying to understand females. Move on to the next one. I don't even understand why some young dudes out there get so hung up on one female. You should be dating 3 or 4 and have them on rotation. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:41 AM |
| 1 | How to handle that I am 10 or maybe even 15 years older?You have the problem, not them. If you make it a big deal, it will be a big deal. Most women in that age group are total airheads though- I am surprised you would find anything interesting about someone in that age group, most are insecure AF, emotionally unstable and most can't be not even 5 minutes away from their phones and their social media BS. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Anxious to hang out with popular girl from high school, 2 years after graduationIf you have any anxiety, you are obviously insecure and you still lack confidence. You already put this woman on a pedestal and she is nothing special, just a woman. Only beta males put women on a pedestal, and you need to continue to work on yourself, If I were you, I would get a good understanding of the "abundance mentality" concept. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:21 AM |
| -4 | Had girl in bed with Netflix and she just leftSorry if I sound harsh but never do a "coffee date"- that shit is for simps. A coffee date is way for a woman to check you out with low investment- Have you ever heard of a guy that got laid after a coffee date? If you ever go up to a woman and tell her you don't do coffee dates, she will respect you. You took long and you probably gave off some beta male vibes, should have gone for it, dont waste time this lovey dovey BS. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:11 AM |
| 4 | My bros, it’s time we stop simping.Spot on my brother. I go to the gym here everyday in Denver and all I see is a bunch of thirsty, beta orbiters. I don't even waste too much time worrying about other people are doing but some of these motherfuckers are so thirsty, orbiting around a girl who has a boyfriend and is mediocre at best, the current state of affairs is pathetic around these parts. | /r/seduction | 16/10/20 09:01 AM |
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