DerberAuner Archive

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1	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term Ok, but 'attracting a certain type of person' is not the same as 'pushing an ideology' agreed, but imo it does both. :/ thats why i brought up both points. If we are living in a 'red pill world', then this is not a fact that is right or wrong, but just a fact. In that case, some way of adapting to that fact is desirable, even if not for the purpose of sleeping with women, but merely to protect yourself. like i said, in certain circumstances i can see this philosophy being alright or beneficial. …	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 05:38 PM
1	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term A degree in physics is far less lucrative than it is interesting. If you're at the edge of normal variation in terms of high mindedness, then you can expect a woman who follows a very standard mating strategy to pass you up if you're poor, and use you if you're wealthy. the point was to give you an indication of my character and why im weird (not just to women), not to talk about "mating strategies"... but w/e. not important. I think most of TRP can be reduced to indicative questions, i.e. 'does…	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 04:50 PM
2	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term Perhaps it is less appropriate in this sub. it is. i realize "mensrights" is flirting with the line from time to time, but you might wanna be a bit more careful about saying this stuff. not for me, i know where i stand on this whole shite, just in general. But I think /r/TheRedPill is on to something in a big way. i honestly do not think so. sorry. based on everything ive seen, its about "getting youre own due", with no consideration for other people. dont get me wrong, i realize that in some si…	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 04:14 PM
3	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term first off: ive never been "abused" for my money or anything, im much too paranoid to fall for that. i may have given you the wrong impression, if thats how you think i meant it. If you're feeling[...] its... complicated. i dont want to reveal too much cause i dont want to doxx myself, but lets just say that my depression doesnt come out of nowhere, and my behaviour doesnt come out of nowhere. for pretty much as long as i can remember people have looked at me with that "whats wrong with that guy?…	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 03:49 PM
3	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term thing is, i dont know if it matters or not whether nice guys have an excuse or not. for all i know, this is so inburnt into their/our character, that change is impossible, or at least incredibly unnatural. some might even be at the point where im at, where theyre basically wondering "whats the point?" no matter what theyre doing in life. it might be completely unimportant whether they/we have an excuse or not. that said, yeah, villifying really doesnt help it at all. but i dont know if being nic…	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 02:25 PM
–	"Nice Guy" -- still thinking about this term huh. you know, id argue i am one of those "nice guys", or however youd want to call it (id personally go with "sap" or "beta"). and i think some of this is what ive been thinking for a while now. "nice guys" dont actually think they "deserve" a woman or a medal or whatever for their behaviour, theyre trained to think that them being nice is a desirable quality, and they get frustrated or pissed when this bears no fruits. (note: "trained to think" is neutral, and not neccessarily originates with …	/r/MensRights	17/08/15 03:23 AM
4	Ellen Pao to appeal against sexism trial defeat ah, so the original ruling justifies the appeal (even without the verdict) to be here. thanks for clearing it up.	/r/PussyPassDenied	02/06/15 04:07 PM
6	Ellen Pao to appeal against sexism trial defeat out of curiousity, couldnt you make an argument that she hasnt yet been denied her appeal, and hence this shouldnt be here (yet)? or does the fact that she is appealing (i.e. a court already decided not to give her what she sought) override that fact?	/r/PussyPassDenied	02/06/15 03:39 PM
1	Male privilege i never said you did, i merely used it as an example. an my original statement was more aimed towards saying you should not draw rash conclusions based off of ONE statistic. they are, in my opinion, as standalone statistics NOT cause for concern, not in the context of the original graph implying, that this isnt a "mens world". there is no deeper meaning behind my original post other than "dont read too much into this statistic, if youre not gonna look more closely".	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 05:01 PM
1	Male privilege were talking about humans here, humans are somewhat unique in the animal kingdom, i actually never thought about animal examples, cause imho they are not relevant to the discussion at hand. also arguably, we are dominating the animal kingdom, and we are (or were) for the most part patriarchal. we have lets say.... 10,000 years of recorded history? (im not an historian) in all that time there are so few examples of matriarchies, that we are arguing today if there ever were any. so, lets say on th…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 05:00 PM
1	Male privilege im not gonna quote anymore, instead im going to go through your post, by numbering them, one number represents one paragraph, starting from the top. 1)im not sure what you mean by "justified". i hope this clarifies a bit: im not trying to say matriarchies are better or worse forms of government, im saying they are probably less viable in a n evolutionary sense. what this means, is that PROBABLY matriarchal societies wont survive, even today. technically my argument is DEductive (im not exactly s…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 04:40 PM
-2	Male privilege "Patriarchy is a social system in which males are the primary authority figures central to social organization, occupying roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property, and where fathers hold authority over women and children. It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female subordination" source?	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 03:52 PM
1	Male privilege hmmm im not sure which topic (science?) sociology is. im not saying that you cant do it, im saying you should study properly, and take all factors into account. all we have here are the suicide rates, no context to them. saying that they stem from somewhere like a systematical effort of driving men into suicide at this point is nothing more than a hypothesis. in order to advance said statement to the rank of theory, there would have to be collaborating evidence.	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 03:50 PM
1	Male privilege oh boy, this will be a long one... Your entire answer is circular reasoning-you're using what is to justify what is without answering my question. your question is based on wrong reading, i said "evolutionary advantage" not "advantage" in my original post, there is a difference. my argument is, that a matriarchal society would be here NOW, if it were a viable form of government. the fact that theyre not, tells me that they either never existed, or have been overthrown or conquered. what does thi…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 03:41 PM
-1	Male privilege but not for our society as a whole. this doesnt mean, that men are driven more towards suicide (which iirc was the topic of this thread). a gender disparity in this region doesnt tell you ANYTHING here, all it tells you that there are different approaches. in order to determine why things play out the way they do (men "succeed" more often, women try more often), you would have to dive deeper into the matter and examine why each case played out the way it did.	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 03:21 PM
-1	Male privilege ok, lets say you are run by women now, what would be different? what evidence do you have THAT something would be different? my point is kind of that, if matriarchies were viable systems of government, wed have them by now. or wed have evidence of them having existed. wed know the advantages/disadvantages through experience, not just theory. matriachies dont get that far (based on what ive read), and that is the advantage of a patriarchy (from my point of view). in order to debate advantages, yo…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 02:46 PM
1	Male privilege you shouldnt take anything anyone tells you at face value. i fact check most things i either post or read, its a bitch to do, but at least youre not spreadding false knowledge :/. that being said, if i cant find evidence to support it, i usually add a "disclaimer" akin to "iirc" or "afaik"	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 01:35 PM
–	Male privilege really? can you give me a source? edit: wanted to add this here, ive been looking for evidence to either support or dispute your claim, but so far im coming up blank. the wikipedia page on matriarchy doesnt explicitly mention lesbos, and youd think they would. most mentions are somewhat lacking evidence and based on speculation, suggesting either, that matriarchies were wiped out by patriarchies, leaving you to think, that matriarchies are an evolutionarily inferior model, OR that they never exi…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 01:06 PM
2	Male privilege just to quickly point something out here: a patriarchy is a system, that is POLITICALLY ruled by men, as opposed to women. and there isnt a SINGLE example of a society that is run differently (outside of fiction), iirc. if im wrong here gimme a source, i love to learn things.	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 01:00 PM
5	Male privilege about the suicidde rates: from what i understand women have a higher overall suicide attempts count, but men have a higher "success rate". i think you shouldnt read too much into this, it simply means men and women approach suicide differently, women tend to want someone to stop them, whereas men tend to just want to end it. I recalled this from memory, and am trying to find evidence to support my claim, will edit/update, if i find contradicting/supporting evidence. edit: found it here in the wi…	/r/MensRights	21/10/13 12:52 PM