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DerelictCruiser/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:11 PM
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Well being a man actually didn’t save me from being raped, and there wouldn’t be as much stigma surrounding discussing it. I know in your bubble you can’t fathom that anyone but women are brutally sexually assaulted, but it actually does happen. I know there are downsides to being female, the problem is nobody seems to ever want to acknowledge the upside. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:27 AM
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If he had reacted to her flipping out with stoicism, dismissing her crazy attitude, then followed up with getting her out of your life and being protective, do you think you would have liked it more? I think it would have made him look even stronger in your eyes than the sobbing followed by problem solving. Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:52 PM
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I'll take your word for it out of principle, but in the hypothetical scenario in which he doesn't express these issues in any form, I still think it would land better with you. Alas, there's no way to test such theories. But we see and experience the world differently, and so we'll see this differently as well. Out of curiosity, did he tell you about his trauma after you were married or before?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:46 AM
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Agreed, along with their psyche. But men get the delicious package deal of having their value and psyche damaged, along with the perception of others of their masculinity being literally taken. I'm not here to say men experience the trauma of rape worse than women, all I'm trying to say is that the knowledge of such has much more far reaching impact for a man in the world of dating and being seen as sexually/romantically viable. There's a reason there's a stigma around men talking about it, wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:37 AM
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I can't pretend anyone except sickos enjoy hearing about it. But in my personal experience, it doesn't damage a woman's femininity in the eyes of the masses in the same way it does to a man's masculinity, and I think you know that and just felt like being edgy, and that's okay too. Respectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:25 AM
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This kind of reinforces what I'm talking about. It's okay with you as long as there's action to immediately rectify the issue, as long as he's fixing it. Of course no one likes endless complainers, but the problem is women seem to throw it all in the same box of disdain from the whining to the legitimate deep vulnerabilities. It's never okay as a man to have a chink in your armor unless you are actively working to patch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:45 AM
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I'm not the guy you were arguing with, but one of my literal catchphrases in life is, "If reincarnation is real, I want to come back as a woman." Would I miss having super strength and super speed? Yes. Would I easily get over it with the myriad of social benefits that come from being a young female? Probably. Are you American? If you're not American, I can see why you'd say this, but women have it pretty solid here in America. So if you're a genie and you're offering, sign me up for the double …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:11 AM
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It must be, because from my perspective, they only encourage and seem to value it because it's reprehensible to not support your partner's emotional needs. Virtue signalling, if you will. Doesn't mean they aren't deeply put off by it internally. Of course outliers exist, but I'm speaking in the main. And I don't even mean something as extreme as crying, I'm talking about politely expressing insecurities or vulnerabilities in a moment where it wouldn't be detrimental. Women (in general) really do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:56 AM
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I think we largely agree, I wouldn’t disagree that different personalities can all potentially attract women. But let’s not pretend they’re all attracting the same amount of women, or same quality, with the same enthusiasm. It doesn’t take much more than a cursory glance to see the more power you have as a man, the more women will like you. Power in the form of money, physical strength, influence, or in this case, power to not be affected by outside circumstances. You say women doesn’t mind the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:27 AM
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What’s the difference between going too far and doing what works? I’d argue the only difference is any negative impact you’re imagining it’s had on me. Which is little. I’m only repressed around a potential interest or SO, I don’t live my life in a state of dual crisis. I have friends I can trust to be vulnerable around, and my self worth/validation as a man are derived from activities separate from women (ie combat sports). If I have to act like a stereotype to be taken romantically seriously b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:00 AM
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This is pretty much the true answer. I remember always being encouraged to be open and honest with my feelings when appropriate, only to learn as I got older that it’s never appropriate to women. Even the ones who say it is, it’s just because it’s not socially acceptable to be openly disgusted with a man having feelings, but the disgust is still there, disguised behind rhetoric like “Men wanna be treated like women nowadays” etc It’s so crazy how many girls love being ignored and it’s wild to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:15 AM
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They should do this only if they want to increase their chances of sex/relationships with women. Men generally don’t care whether women fulfill their traditional roles anymore, the bar is set so low, women can be themselves, good, bad, and ugly, and there will forever be someone willing to accept that about her. You and I are men and do not have that luxury. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:56 PM
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Because the genders are different. Men have to do, women just have to be, it’s a super gross saying but not one without some truth. If he’s not putting himself to practical use, he’s not useful. Not being useful is really unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:13 PM
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It sounds cliche to say, but it really is just that the “top” 20% of men are getting attention from 80% of women. Standards for women collectively are higher than they’ve ever been in history, exacerbated by the internet perpetuating highly idealized and unrealistic versions of relationships. Most women are content to either share a high quality man or just be happy alone. It’s an uneven selection process, it will only get worse as the disparity in wealth and education between the average man an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:55 PM
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I don’t think of it as cruel unless expressed cruelly or inappropriately. It’s more just a subjective “how much someone does it for you”. Sorry if I seem probing, I just can’t fathom and am interested in how you think. I’ve known people who say they don’t have a type, but if you look at their past bfs, there are at least some common physical identifiers. A pattern, even if not racial or height based. Surely there are people you’ve been physically attracted to to different degrees? Or are your pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:56 AM
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So you don’t believe in ratings then? 5/10 etc etc. Have you ever been attracted to someone before knowing anything about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:42 PM
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I have in built physical preferences. They are not dealbreakers for me, but they do exist, and my desire filters those to the top accordingly. Also cultural differences depending on where you live. It sounds discriminatory, but isn’t all of dating? Do you really not have a type? As long as a guy treats you well he’s in? Haven’t you ever dated someone hotter than a previous bf? One you were more physically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:30 PM
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But women often don't call sexual assault sexual assault if it's done by a wealthy/attractive man. That's the point. And it ain't always out of fear of retaliation/not being believed, so save your #metoo heroes. Her statement is not just not okay, it's completely nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 05:37 AM
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And THIS^ is what people fail to understand. It is really, truly an effort and achievement for an average man to seduce a woman for casual sex in a short time frame. This is why the slut/stud dichotomy exists, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 09:28 AM
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Are you high value/attractive? Because that would explain your experience pretty adequately. Of course plenty of hot chicks are into casual sex with a very attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 09:24 AM
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Casual sex is actually pretty difficult for average guys without significant effort. Like the story that you're putting forward doesn't compute to me, I can't imagine average guys going out and meeting average women who want casual sex with them and bringing them home to have sex all in the same night, and that being a regular occurrence. I think your friend group might be hotter/more charming than you think it is. Those sorts of things usually take days of correspondence through text/social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 09:18 AM
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Slut shaming is dying. Slut glorifying is on the rise. I'm not mad at it, but it is definitely an observable trend. Known hoes are often celebrated as sexually liberated and independent. Ho used to be a negative identity, now it's more like a power women choose to exercise occasionally. These days, most women's friends or social group will not bad mouth her if she decides to have a lot of casual sex. They will just say she has a lot of casual sex. Source: Massive amount of female friends, and un…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 09:05 AM
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DO most women go their WHOLE lives without cheating? I find that hard to swallow, being that they have so much opportunity as you said. Not all cheaters are found out. Not even most. Most cheating is not a big affair that ends in an explosive confrontation like in the movies. It's often a one-off thing, that is never even known about by the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 08:54 AM
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I don't think my ranting and raving has gone too far off topic lol. Do you really think women that laugh at this sort of thing are rare maniacs in the demographic of women? Because that's what you're making it sound like. That's why I "accuse you" as you put it. And nobody who believes "Women are wonderful" actually says those words word for word. It's just an inherent bias that keeps most people from seeing the unpleasant side of female psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 08:33 AM
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This...reads like a guide on how not to attract women. In my personal experience, women like men with potential for danger. Domestic abusers universally usually do pretty well with women. Same with drug dealers. And I don't just mean ONS's either, legitimate relationships with (what I would consider to be) beautiful, quality women. Women have a long, long list of requirements and standards, but at the top is don't be boring, have money, be confident, and look good. That's what you should be tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:42 AM
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Bit of a catch-22, cause if she doesn't get her flowers she'll be upset, but if you cave and buy flowers, you look like a supplicating pansy. I'd probably just stare off into the distance for some time, embroiled in a mental battle with the dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:25 AM
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Atlas breaks it down best. Displays of strong emotion/vulnerability from men is okay if it is brief and infrequent, and interspersed with mostly masculine behavior. Essentially building up a reserve of "man-tokens", which you can then spend on brief emotional times like the death of a loved one, expressing feelings over childhood trauma, insecurities, etc. But it must be kept BRIEF, that's the important takeaway. And only after a rapport of masculinity and security has been established. Or you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:14 AM
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ITT: Women lying about liking vulnerable men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:05 AM
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No stones being thrown. Of course men get up to more dick chopping, men do/have done more of EVERYTHING that there is to do on this Earth than women except give birth. I have no issue with women about this, laugh at what you want. If women want to laugh at genital mutilation, they can. I don't even think it makes them bad people. BUT I do have a problem with people saying this isn't a thing or women can't be/aren't like this. Call a spade a spade. Of all the things TRP got right, perhaps most pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:56 AM
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Exactly, because there aren't widespread instances of genital mutilation. But there are widespread instances of women finding it amusing for some reason. And I have no issue. Laugh at what you want, I've laughed at rape and Holocaust jokes, I'm not a rapist, or Nazi, nor do I consider myself a bad person. I don't think women who laugh at chopped off dick jokes are bad people. My issue is with people like you seemingly insinuating that this isn't a thing at all. When it is definitely a thing. Cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 09:48 AM
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That's like saying women also commit gang violence, so why bother gendering it? Because it's happening on a different scale. Yeah of course men have cut off more dicks than women, men have done more of EVERYTHING under-the-sun than women except give birth. Now I'm not saying there's some penis severing epidemic, far from it. BUT more women are going to think a chopped off dick is funny than men will think a damaged vagina is funny. That's facts. I know you think the physical angels you call wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 08:17 PM
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That's a movie. We are talking about when real mutilation happens, how real women, really laugh as a first response. Even on camera. On the other side of the coin, there aren't too many shredded vagina jokes, scenes, or anything of that nature. Why? Because hurting women isn't funny. It's why most slapstick involves males.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 07:55 PM
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Definitely a thing. Like I said, Bill Burr has a bit about it. It's been discussed before, and clearly based on this line of commenting, I'm not the only one who agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 07:51 PM
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Nobody is talking about circumcision. We're talking about the distinctive, alarming trend women have in finding severed penises humorous. Circumcision and emasculation are two completely different things. Of course many people aren't going to regard circumcision as wrong, it's largely done for cultural, religious, and aesthetic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 10:23 AM
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Most yes. I can't ignore the existence of numerous outliers, I myself am a man and don't really care for having sex, and even then I still have strong sexual urges from time to time. So maybe not all but definitely a majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 10:18 AM
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It's a pretty reasonable generalization. Certainly many, many more women find male genital mutilation humorous than the inverse. Read those links OP sent you, they just scratch the surface. Bill Burr dedicated a short portion of his comedy bit on this disturbing part of female psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:33 PM
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Women definitely don't want or enjoy sex like a man does, but I think they still kind of like it. They just don't like it like a man likes sex, they like it like a man likes chocolate. You can get tired of chocolate, you can feasibly not feel like having chocolate in the moment. Of course chocolate is good, but you don't want chocolate all day every day. Women do expect to be "paid" for sex, and most of them view sex as a gift, but again I don't think that's because sex is so unpleasant for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:26 PM
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Yes, it sounds great. I don't understand why anyone would not willingly choose it, so long as the side-effects weren't extremely prominent. My hormonal desire for sex is much, much stronger than my actual enjoyment of it, and I and 99% of other men do not have sex on tap to combat this desire. But I know that by the time any sort of progress is made in this field, I'll already be largely freed from the constraints of sexual desire by aging, but I'm young and my sex drive isn't dying fast enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 06:07 PM
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I do that, you do that, everyone both of us knows in real life does that. So are all humans creepy now? You can't openly act like an asshole to someone or distance yourself from them every single time you don't like someone or get your way. THAT is creepy, someone who can't be civil and keep their vitriol in check long enough to vent it to an appropriate source.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:22 PM
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Harboring resentment and relegating talking about it to other people after being hurt by a rejection is creepy? Sounds pretty human to me, but I get it, guys aren't supposed to have emotion. I get the feeling anything guys do that doesn't benefit women directly is 'creepy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:03 PM
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Who's good at fucking? People who practice being good at fucking, often. Who gets the most practice? Chad. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:53 AM
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If a woman decided to be a "womanchild" we'd celebrate her independence and hold a parade in her honor. Manchild is what women yell when you aren't paying their bills for them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:02 AM
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If anything, UMC women are the MLT (most like that). It's very hard to keep them financially and emotionally satisfied, and they usually have expansive social networks full of prospective replacements for their boyfriend if his attitude, looks, or bank account start slipping. Introverted women maybe SLIGHTLY better than extroverted women in the sense that she might not have an extremely wide social network for you to compete with, but largely this isn't a difference in how they feel, more what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:31 PM
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You ever see Matthew Mcconaughey's bit in Wolf Of Wall Street? "You gotta feed the geese to keep the blood flowing. I keep the rhythm below the belt."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 08:19 PM
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I'm a vehement opposer of NoFap, sorry fellow. I don't want to jump through flaming hoops and wait forever every single time I want to have an orgasm. I'm glad you found something that works for you though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 08:03 PM
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Porn is "mind poison"? What the fuck do you do when you're horny? Just start macking and hope you get your rocks off in a day or two of logistics/tenuous flirting with females?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 07:50 PM
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"then the next thing you know you both are having crazy sex" <-------And therein lies my personal issue. That "next thing you know" part usually entails a lot of careful social engineering on the man's part. Meeting women can be effortless, maybe. But not fucking them, not generally speaking. That takes way more work than the possible chance of orgasm with a girl in the room is worth. At least to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 07:43 PM
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Point is, they know how to get the girl on lock, make panties drop, get sloppy top, and attract girls that are hot. I rest my rhyming case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 07:27 PM
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I mean, that's practically emotional divorce. They just don't want to shell out the time or cash to be rid of the ol' harpy. Actual divorce is less incentivized for men to go after because they aren't typically awarded anything and the entire process is lengthy and expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 07:24 PM
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I mean, he's right. TRP pretty much decoded a lot of what makes up female desire. More than any place on the net, they understand how women think when it comes to relationships/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 07:19 PM
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Male. I suppose MGTOW, but I only advocate for cutting off romantic/sexual relations with women, not separating entirely. Take my money!!! I don't just want a world like this, I NEED a world like this. Take the handicap off social life for women, no more legions of thirsty caterers. Why wouldn't you take this, it's like being given a pill that means you don't have to breathe, or eat, or drink. You've been freed from the constraint of sexual need. I think women would be shocked at how differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 07:16 PM
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The point is the logistics and effort that goes into it is not worth such a similar outcome to jerking off for a lot of people. I suppose it just comes down to how much you like pussy. Also, the trip never yields a series of steak dinners. I ain't never seen one of my friends strike out on one casual date or Tinder hunt or what-have-you and end up fucking two girls. Your whole mentality speaks to that of someone at least an 8 on the SMV scale. Of course 8's feel like it happens effortlessly, of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 06:49 PM
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Haha hell, give it a try, man. Nobody says you have to give up forever. But the more you learn, the more you'll want to. Is pussy really worth you having to self-police every emotion and word you put out, trying to stay suave and sexual, but not look thirsty? Keep that delicate equilibrium going for some days, then figure out logistics, then buy her something, then get her all the way to your place just to find out she's terrible in bed like most women, and you actually just brought in someone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 06:39 PM
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Because it isn't sexy if they have to tell them to do it. Women want you to "just get it", thereby showing that you're not completely socially and relationally inept. You also asked why therapists don't tell the husband. How are they gonna keep making that fat hourly/sessionly rate if they fix the problems every time? #1 reason I don't believe in paid therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 02:13 AM
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I'm not saying men don't have standards for relationships, I'm saying women's are generally higher. Are you denying this? I ain't oft heard a man say "She's too broke", "She doesn't have a car", "She never takes me out on a date", "She doesn't have her own house". Help out with the chores 50/50 and bills 70/30, help out with the kids, be romantic, listen to my emotions, don't have any negative emotions of your own. Pay attention to me, but NOT too much. Be funny, be dominant, DON'T boss me aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 02:03 AM
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I mean the minority of the male gender. Most of them will jump through flaming hoops just for a chance to glimpse pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 01:58 AM
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Okay, but to get that steak dinner you have to shell out cash, hike up a mountain, and have a suave sexy attitude about it the whole time. All to maybe or maybe not get your steak at the end. There could just be bread there. Suddenly the trip seems a lot less enticing, don't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 01:56 AM
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I know I'm in the minority saying this, but pussy is overrated for the effort that goes in to getting it. I dislike trying to sell myself to someone as fuckworthy. Why is jerking off so unpleasant? I get that it's not as great as sex, but nobody except Chad Pitt is attractive enough to dial up sex-on-demand. The rest of us have to jump through hoops, handle logistics, wait a few days and probably end up buying them food, and carefully and sexily phrase things during the lead up to all of it. EDI…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:25 AM
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But it absolutely pales in comparison to the requirements of women. Absolutely. There is no comparison. The nagging boyfriend is not a common trope. The gold-digger/after-your-money male is not a common trope. Women being rejected for their height, again not as common as the reverse. Women want, want, want when it comes to relationships. We like statistics around here, most divorces are initiated by women. Why? Because they aren't having their big ass standards met.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:14 AM
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What? That's not even debatable. Women have higher standards than men. You cannot deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 08:23 PM
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Being with a woman in the first world these days is like a never-ending job interview. However, more women are "worth it" to men than vice versa, because we ask for a lot less. The list to please a man is shorter. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:42 PM
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You wouldn't respect that. Your genders' built-in reproductive and relational standards don't allow for it. I absolutely do not condemn the ruthlessness of female hypergamy. It is your biological imperative and at one point was vital for the continuation of the species. But I have no desire to be an ATM or a court jester or an emotional punching bag. I have no desire to constantly pretend I'm infinitely suave, infallible, confident, and if I slip up and act human get tossed aside and replaced wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:36 AM
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I don't necessarily think men have become shittier or lower quality. The checklist of the modern woman has undoubtedly grown, and is taxing to fulfill day in and day out. Yes, even for high quality, rich, personable, handsome, "not shitty" men. Society has progressed much farther than our own physical evolution and idea of what's attractive. Being attractive to a woman used to mean being a better fighter or more successful hunter. Then we got agriculture. Then women probably wanted the guy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:08 PM
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Yes, and I can't imagine ever doing it again. I've simply learned too much about how it works. I'm not trying to sound pretentious or smart by saying that, I just simply do not want to engage in pair-bonding or casual sex anymore. But I don't condemn those who do. I sustain myself with exercise/sports endeavors, porn, and the occasional girlfriend roleplay ASMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 12:03 AM
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Whether they're happy or not, this is the market women wanted. They have way, WAY more opportunity than men to find their alpha unicorn, dissatisfaction won't change until women lower their standards, which inherently makes them dissatisfied. It's just the nature of female desire, and why I and a lot of other young men have opted out of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:18 PM
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I don't necessarily think men have become shittier or lower quality. The checklist of the modern woman has undoubtedly grown, and is taxing to fulfill day in and day out. Yes, even for high quality, "not shitty" men. Society has progressed much farther than our own physical evolution and idea of what's attractive. Being attractive to a woman used to mean being a better fighter or more successful hunter. Then we got agriculture. Then women probably wanted the guy with the most farmland. Bringing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:22 PM
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If a male chooses to spend his time and money on himself instead of women/children/family, society will find a way to make it sound selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:51 PM
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Take out the words "to have to parent" and I'm on board with that statement haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:46 PM
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The problem with withholding sex to dis-incentivize negative behavior is that even if it works, the woman is often going to be even less attracted to her man anyway for being extorted via sex. It's a lose-lose for men, really. Disdain is the easiest emotion to invoke in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:52 AM
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The same time is invested by men to find out if women who are also putting their best foot forward are quality. Of course it takes time and effort, that's dating, but they can much easier find relational satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 03:26 AM
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To borrow Mr. Cross' analogy: Women have a much smaller target. But they have way, way, WAY more bullets and way, way, WAY more chances to shoot. Men have to invest the same time to figure out if a woman is quality. But if I'm trying to win the lottery, and I buy a couple tickets, but my neighbor is being sent handfuls every week? Who do you think is going to win the lottery (get a quality relationship)? Mathematically and socially, who has the better chance?? The quantity gives you opportunity …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:47 PM
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Exactly, that's how society works. So why do people deny that women have this advantage when it comes to finding agreeable partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:18 PM
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They just don't want or enjoy sex as much. There's not as much testosterone influencing their sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:49 AM
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Even if their ideal partner is rare, the fact remains that they receive more opportunity to find their unicorn than a man. And once they do get that good/decent relationship? They have a degree of confidence due to lifelong affirmations of attractiveness. They have built in dread, and if their man starts slipping/not acting right, there's an abundance of other men waiting. And settling doesn't always ultimately lead to resentment lol. That's why they call it settling after all. Some people settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:24 AM
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Guys have the same uncertainty, but far less opportunities. Imagine not knowing if she was a good girlfriend, or just a good lay, or an abusive cunt. But you had to put in way, way more effort to get your foot in the door, and you didn't have a lot of (high quality AND low) people interested in you so you knew your next relationship/fuck buddy would be far and few between, not just subject to your whim. That's being most guys. Women have the advantage here. Just like men have the advantage in ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:50 AM
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Which brings me back to my original point. Women have it easier. To find success on matters of sex and relationships, you tell men to globalize, move to a foreign country that has a more appreciable market, and try to use their income to leverage love out of some third-worlder. But a woman just has to roll out of bed, walk out the door, and not be a bitch to have the same. And hell, she can even get away with being a bitch/problematic and still have the same often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:33 AM
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It's only a bad place to be when you're trying to date, I've opted out ages ago, and learned too much about relationships since then to turn back. No envy here, I'm quite happy with the super speed and super strength being a man has afforded me. If the trade-off is greater relational and sexual dissatisfaction, then I call it fair tradesies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:29 AM
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But even then, a picky woman has it easier than a comparably picky man, no? And even if she's looking for such high quality men that they have a lot of options, she will have more opportunity to meet other high quality men that might possibly commit, again more so than a comparably picky man. Just based on numbers and level of desire between the sexes, women can find their "one true love", "soulmate", "Chad" or whatever you wanna call it, easier than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:21 AM
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I know what you're saying, m8, but that's the same as saying they have it easier. Which they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:55 AM
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And here I thought this was a subreddit for discussing/contrasting/comparing gender issues. Silly me lol? That's exactly the point I'm making here. They're different, and they come with a different set of advantages/disadvantages in life. But some people deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:03 AM
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Easier to find that small percentage when you're afforded 10x more opportunity to date/fuck around. Very picky men (of which I know a few) for example, are only attracted to a small percentage of the opposite sex. But compared to their picky female counterparts, they will receive less attention, go on less dates, and be less likely to find someone to click with at all, simply by fault of gender. It's just nature
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:54 AM
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But that's not an apt comparison. It'd be more like a few hundred server jobs banging down your door, a few temp jobs that pay a little better but won't be around forever, some good careers that might not be glamorous but are stable, etc, etc. But the fact of the matter is, women have more opportunity to get into a quality relationship than the opposite sex. Opportunity does not equal success. But opportunity SURE as hell equals OPPORTUNITY for success, that's the point people are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:50 AM
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Yes, women. So if we agree women are receiving so much more attention from the opposite sex, it stands to reason that they have a greater chance of finding a suitable/quality partner. I know what you're trying to say, but approaching someone is not as valuable to attaining a relationship as being approached is. Simply because when you are being approached, you know that the other party has some degree of interest already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:47 AM
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Okay, but she can have all those incoming approaches AND start being proactive in her own approaches and effectively massively increase her relational opportunity. Then, by the power of math, she has a greater chance of getting into a quality relationship. If I'm trying to win the lottery and I buy a few tickets, but my neighbor is being sent handfuls of them a week, who has a better chance of winning something. Mathematically, who?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:31 AM
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...this should be obvious, but I'll bite. Who gets more attention from the opposite sex, women or men? Who is asked out more? Who is pursued to a greater degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:53 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:49 PM
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I don't know your SMV. But whatever the number is, you'll have an easier time getting basic attention/affection, dates, quality relationships, and casual sex than your hypothetical equivalent male counterpart. Do you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:48 PM
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Women have an easier time achieving their objectives, but it's harder for them to achieve their objectives? I know what you meant, but that's how it comes off. Fact is, they get more choice and opportunity to find quality relationships. And once they get one, they have far easier of a time keeping it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:45 PM
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Well the girls are putting their priorities on how much money he has and how fun he is, how dominant, his social circle, his job, stuff like that. There's a longer ideal checklist and higher expectations from women, no doubt. Whereas a lot of men's checklist consists of be attractive enough/have hygiene/don't be an absolute bitch to me. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:42 PM
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I know choosy men. Guess who has more opportunity to find a suitable, quality partner between men who sit back and be choosy and women who do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:54 PM
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But they are born with more opportunity to find a good relationship than a man of qual value is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:52 PM
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I know picky men, there are picky men and women. But if they are afforded more opportunity to date around/fuck around than their male counterparts, it inherently means they are more likely to find someone they find attractive. Or at least can settle with. I'm not mad at it, it's nature, but to deny it is baffling to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:00 PM
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It's easier to find someone you're attracted to when you're afforded 10x more opportunity to date/fuck around
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 09:54 PM
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Try a majority
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 06:27 PM
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No, but I'm saying that shit is utterly inconsequential to women compared to your personality, income, and looks. And lots of women like aggressive, domineering men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 09:53 AM
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Okay, let's forget the lizard brain. Having confidence in the dating world or the casual sex world is simply easier when you have sex on tap, you're not that thirsty for it to begin with (compared to men), more people approaching you, more options, all this "relational security" just by virtue of your gender. These are HUGE social and psychological advantages when it comes to monogamous pair-bonding, I can't imagine anyone disagreeing with this. That's like saying the sky isn't blue. A woman can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 08:50 AM
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Ahh, so no "quality" woman would ever date someone exhibiting those traits? I have observed quite the opposite, and I'm willing to bet you have too, unless you're really just turning your head and closing your eyes. Being attractive, fun, and having money, sir. The more of those you have, that's how you find some kind of quality woman. Which would qualify as stepping up your game, but you're focused on the wrong traits in my humble opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 08:40 AM
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Yes, so I could lead her on and subsequently reject her, see what it's like to be on the other side of the fence. Petty but satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 04:20 AM
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I think it serves as the basest affirmation of value in our lizard hind-brains. Which is pretty valuable when it comes to having the confidence necessary to have a healthy LTR. Also, you have built-in dread at all times. Also, you don't have to depend on an LTR as your best/only chance of physical intimacy. The ability/option to have casual sex and express desire and be desired any time you want is a pretty valuable psychological AND physical advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:54 AM
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Then no. Or at least, such little dread that it is of no consequence to his presumably average girlfriend. Inflicting dread on women of equal value to oneself is harder than most men make out, they forget that women have literally endless options for sex/relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:07 PM
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Still at least 10x more effort than a comparable hot woman would have to give. Especially if the women were 7's or higher. Wooing is effort for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:29 PM
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So you think rampant casual sex inherently makes pair-bonding in an LTR harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:28 PM
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I mean, what's his income like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:25 PM
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So...since you watched what women do so well, can you explain to me why you feel that aggression and domineering behavior are so detrimental to one's dating/sexual success? Because they only seem detrimental to women when you're low income/boring/ugly. Funny how that works out, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:21 PM
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Then why do all the aggressive, domineering homophobes keep getting all this pussy?? I mean, maybe my view is skewed because I live in the South. But women in general seem to care much more about how much money you have and how much fun you are, than your values as a person. "You don't need "toxic masculinity" to be attractive." <---This is the crux of the issue if you ask me, because if you're attractive enough, women are going to see the stars shine out your every orifice, even if you ARE exhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 06:20 AM
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with them. Can totally understand them wanting to check out of romance and female contact. It's a rough fucking game for a man, in a way that a lot of women can't comprehend. The market of modern dating is largely skewed in women's favor. MGTOW is helpful for those without a lot of leverage in the market attempt to divorce themselves from it. Independence and options are only a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:29 PM
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Hahaha, I didn't lose mine til 21, but up to that point, you'd be surprised how many women were quite picky about it. Lots of people care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:59 AM
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Meh, agree to disagree. Sex isn't crack cocaine. It doesn't inherently harm you (barring STIs), and we evolved with it as a natural function of our bodies, unlike crack. Also where did most women report this? That sounds like an interesting study. How did they determine what was average and below average people? Everyone knows fucking someone you love is better than fucking a stranger. That's true for most men as well as most women. But you have to be able to get to "fucking" before you can do e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:30 AM
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Have you never heard of a man being rejected for being a virgin? Maybe women don't nitpick their ideal n-counts, but "higher-than-zero" has been a requirement of all women I've cared to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:24 AM
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Yours would only be a sound line of reasoning if having sex were as comparable to women as eating shit. But the fact of the matter is women want sex for sex's sake sometimes. Yes way less frequently than men. The point is she can satisfy this human desire that the majority of us share, any time she wants, as much as she wants, and with a much more attractive partner than her comparable male counterpart in the SMV. She can banish that urge from her body practically at will if she so chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:16 AM
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Yeaaaa, gotta disagree with you there. Sex with a hot guy is still sex with a hot guy, not sex with an ugly one. The sex doesn't suddenly become hot or disgusting based on whether he decides to commit to her in the morning or not. She was still turned on by his attractiveness, she still got some semblance of her sexual desire fulfilled. She just didn't get to keep him at the end and it makes her sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:12 AM
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Because that's what our largely monogamist society encourages. Or that's what he finds personally satisfying. But he COULD go slay large amounts of willing pussy. Just like women can go have as much sex as they want with reasonably attractive people. Options, my friend. Just having them is power. Just having them is mental security. People underestimate the advantage of simply having options ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:00 AM
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But you changed it to the ugly alien again. Stop doing that, I want my hot alien, dammit! She got the handsome, nice smelling dude offering hotel sex. The only way your scenario is equivalent is if my alien is also conventionally sexually attractive and clean. You keep switching it around. Everyone knows omega males aren't attractive. That's not the situation at hand though. Women can get NON-smelly, NON-ugly sex whenever they want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:55 AM
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The fact you think the 20% only refers to a man's looks is what's ridiculous. Looks are a part of it, but so is personality, status, and of course money. ALL of those things add up to a top 20%er. Women want it all. Do you think the super facially attractive, washboard abs homeless guy living in a dumpster is the top 20%? That's not what TRP OR women mean when they talk about top quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:50 AM
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The biggest challenge for women is simply finding a man they find worthy or attractive. Not much technical work to be done there, just a lot of figuring out what she likes, what works with her, who will commit to her. The biggest challenge for men is getting your foot in the door. The average woman is going to have far, far more suitors (both potential and active) romantically than a comparable man ever will. The challenge for men is how to stand out from the crowd, and then once you have her at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:44 AM
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But if one day the girl who thought it was gross suddenly changes her mind, wakes up and says, "You know what? I think instead I WILL get dicked down by Chad", then guess what? The overwhelming odds are that she'll be able to do it. She'll get what she wanted. A single, average man can't wake up and just decide sex, no matter how badly he wants it, no matter how lonely he is, no matter how long it's been. A single woman only has a dry spell for as long as she wants. It offers a level of control …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:37 AM
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If they could take their time and pick their way around the undesirable ones for that desirable top 20% (who are just as willing to fuck as the unattractive ones) then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:29 AM
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Most women don't regard players or PUAs/one-night-standers with that degree of visceral disgust in my personal experiences. Because good players LOOK good, and smell good, and talk well, and aren't desperate for sex. What you're describing sounds like how women feel when a bunch of unattractive, unhygenic omega males hit on them. In which the level of revulsion you describe would be fitting. Your analogy would be better, if oh...say...20% of these aliens were super hot and conventionally attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:26 AM
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In regards to men, being good in bed, like any skill it is largely a matter of repetition. Who gets the chance to put in the most reps? Attractive men. Interestingly, the opposite seems to be true in regards to women. Attractive women have an endless amount of options, so absolute sexual skill is not a necessity. They seem to (generally) have more of a "take it or leave it" attitude about their prowess. However unattractive women have no advantage with their looks, a large amount of them are alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:11 PM
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I agree somewhat, but I think people largely underestimate the psychological value of being wanted at all. At least on a subconscious level, it is somewhat nice to be desired. If nothing else, it's an affirmation of your value/SMV/whatever you wanna call it. If a man is undesirable, he is wholly undesirable. If a woman is undesirable, she may still be able to find someone to have sex with her. And whether or not this is her desire, I think it serves as at least the basest affirmation of humanity…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:54 PM
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I completely see your point, but when it's SO easy for women to get, it's not difficult to see why (some) men would turn their noses up at the idea. Men have to WORK, and woo, and seduce, and put in mad effort and time just to have a reasonable shot with a girl. This means a man who sluts it up with lots of girls seems like someone who casually climbs mountains to reach a cookie at the summit. Sounds badass, no? But for women, the cookie jar is sitting right next to their hand, and they're on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:18 PM
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Oh, it definitely works. I won't say it's perfect, but TRP has genuinely managed to decode a portion of how women will think/feel/act in certain relational situations. There are TOO many little random variables that can ruin a woman's attraction, particularly in the beginnings of a relationship. These variables are analyzed, catalogued, and discussed at great length on TRP. It's a huge resource to anyone interested in human behavior. For instance, my main problem was having women on a pedestal. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:05 PM
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When the boyfriend is a natural, the dread comes built in
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 06:55 PM
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A friend irl brought that argument to my attention, I concede the point, but propose that perhaps it simply feels great even if it doesn't cause "orgasm". Like people that buy those little vibrating back massagers, or vibrating massage chairs. EDIT: A word
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 05:55 PM
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That's a big jump, saying I think all women's experiences are lies just because I think more are lying about the ability to orgasm than we think? Which is their business, just an interesting thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 05:30 PM
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I know women supposedly orgasm, but do we really know for sure? I'm sure they've done brain scans and stuff to prove it, but I remain skeptical. I mean, I could fake a girl orgasm sitting here right now, moan, clutch at things, curl toes, roll eyes. It's too easy to fake and too hard to tell, and maybe not even a real thing. I've been with two women who claimed to have never ever had an orgasm, and they told me they faked it with previous bfs just to keep up pretenses. Makes me wonder how common…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:51 AM
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