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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	The Gender Inequality myth I'm aware how the incels here get triggered by those acknowledging that both men AND women have issues. If you want to actually join the current conversation on equality, you need to grow the fuck up. If not, keep whining that feminists are just out to get you.	/r/MensRights	16/09/19 04:56 AM
1	The Gender Inequality myth Specifically the anti feminist brand. r/MensLib see here for the non incel version of this sub.	/r/MensRights	02/09/19 09:35 PM
-9	The Gender Inequality myth You incels are actually close to getting it with this one	/r/MensRights	30/08/19 01:29 AM
-2	How to make everything about you and play the victim card for no reason. That is exactly what the comment said and you'd see that if you could extrapolate past your nose.	/r/MensRights	12/08/19 12:07 AM
-4	How to make everything about you and play the victim card for no reason. But that isn't what happens. What happens is that men are being held to higher standards than women because men are seen as more competent and more deserving of responsibility. When men fall short the hammer comes down harder.	/r/MensRights	11/08/19 11:26 PM
-5	How to make everything about you and play the victim card for no reason. I mean. Do you really not agree with/see this? Jesus fuck guys....	/r/MensRights	11/08/19 08:38 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. and what if one is morally against social work just as they are against killing? I would view that situation as the government subsidizing the viability of capitalism by unethically leveraging people into just enough half measures to make people be able to justify the harm it does. People should be able to vote on the government that rules them. It ruling them is the reason they should have agency. Supporting it is irrelevant. Take away a man's right to vote and they find other, more destructive…	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 03:59 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. It seems all these claims about black turnout being higher is relying on the fact that 2012 was an exception to the norm. Likely because of Obama. That doesn't include other minorities either. There were almost "24 million active voter registrations in the U.S. either invalid or inaccurate." This doesn't seem super relevant here. It cites reasons such as people not knowing to update their address when they move and ignorance of registration laws. Nothing about this statistic implies that there i…	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 03:53 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. Interesting. I'll have to have a closer look into all this information to see if it can shift my outlook. I'll let you know how that goes. It may take awhile because I'm just getting to work. Edit: I never said anything about Russia and I'm not a Democrat. Not sure where that came from.	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 02:48 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. generalizations and assumptions about POC I explained perfectly clear why that wasn't the case. It's not because that are PoC. It's because they are poorer. To subtly discriminate against PoC people just have to attack the poor. If you want to make a fool out of yourself by using such pathetic tactics go for it. You're obviously just trying (very poorly) to gaslight. You're not being sincere.	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 02:01 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about systemic racism. I do not think "an entire group" is incapable of anything. I know that said group is less likely to vote when that something is a requirement. That is not disputable. That is fact. You can come to whatever conclusion you want over that fact, but that is reality. They absolutely can, but people with less means are less likely to do that for a bunch of different reasons. There are more whitea in poverty than blacks and brown. https://ww…	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 01:43 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. Fortunately one doesn't have to speculate on such matters. Minorities are poorer and lower income people do have less representation in such places. Their circumstances does cause the situation where less of them are bound to handle such matters properly for one reason or another. This is absolutely true. I would suggest it is mighty racist of you to suggest that minorities are too dumb and poor to go to the DMV. I don't care about your goalpost. Reality is that minorities have lower income, low…	/r/MensRights	30/07/19 03:32 AM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. Please... Is that really your goal post? Have you EVER read a book at the prompting of "random argumentative internet stranger of the day that you think think is clearly a fool #7"? I don't have the inclination to suffer the absurd whims of every fool I stumble upon.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:58 PM
2	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. Nope. While I'm sure it would be nice to learn some new things I don't need a random Clearly Stable(™) person curating my information diet. I highly doubt I would come to the same conclusions or interpretations of such material and I doubt most people would either. You're mistaking your interpretation of facts as the facts themselves.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:51 PM
-3	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. yes yes you're very smart and you truly have the most bigly qualifications	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:45 PM
-1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. You have no idea what you're talking about... Our government has not changed.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:40 PM
2	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. What do natural born citizens have to do to earn it? I can see how you can say immigrants can have to earn it, but what they are earning is citizenship which comes with a right to vote. They aren't earning the right to vote. That is a right of a citizen. That doesn't really matter though. I don't mind conceding that to you at all. This doesn't address natural born citizens. they go there to get their driver’s license and from that, they get to vote Pure fascist voter suppression methodology. Its…	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:39 PM
1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. I'm sorry. That doesn't help me at all. I have no idea what you're trying to say.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:33 PM
-1	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. You are trying to say "direct democracy" which I never implied to support. We are a Democratic Republic.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 11:32 PM
2	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. I'm sorry. I don't follow. (Not being a pedant. I legitimately am not sure what you're saying)	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 09:30 PM
16	People are waking up. Antioch IL Every women I've talked to about this (about 8 I think) have been in favor of this. A few weren't when I first posed the question, but it was very easy to convince them with added context. I think most people simply don't think critically about this and if you make them do it they agree. The most difficult one was because they had a preference for it and I asked how she felt about guys who preferred girls without "meat curtains" and that seemed to make it click to her.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 09:28 PM
-3	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. please explain felons not allowed to vote. It isn't justifiable. It never was justified. It was labeled "a reasonable measure". It was simply forced and is still very controversial. Whatever your stance on that subject matter is it doesn't matter. That is an entirely different debate. It has no bearing on this subject. It was a right that was taken away justifiably or not. That doesn't in anyway imply that it was "earned". One does not have to "earn" something for it to be revoked. If one is giv…	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 09:15 PM
-4	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. even if they contribute absolutely nothing to the government that supports them? Its especially important for those people. That is how they peacefully push the change they want for governments they do not support. Taking away the voting power from the disenfranchised is fascist and a recipe for terrorism. If you let people vote without contributing ANYTHING to earn it, that's exactly what's going to happen. That is how it works already... That is how It has worked for a long time. And it is hap…	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 08:28 PM
-8	I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit. without having to do anything to earn it One shouldn't have to earn it. The only reason that rhetoric exists was to keep people like women from voting. This is absurd and removed from understanding and context. Its just like saying equal punishment for those who smoke weed when the laws placed against such drugs were put in place specifically to target minorities.	/r/MensRights	29/07/19 08:11 PM
2	He can't get into a shelter because he's a man I work in this sector, and I really really hate this. This absolutely isn't a new feminism thing, this is a result of older draconian views and policies going back hundreds of years.	/r/MensRights	26/07/19 04:44 PM
8	Truth bomb It's men who aren't masculine who are toxic. Fuck you	/r/MensRights	26/07/19 03:47 PM
96	Norah Vincent spent months disguised as a man and she was shocked to understand that life of a man is difficult and most privileges are held by women in this society, a society which strongly protects women I can't imagine a stable neurotypical individual would do that for 18 months just for the reasons provided. She probably has identity issues which likely also account for the depression.	/r/MensRights	26/07/19 03:32 PM
2	Are there more objectively unattractive men than women? What do you mean by that? It sounds like you are saying there are more gay men than straight women, but I know you can't be saying that because that is absurd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/19 01:32 PM
1	Woman caught on video: "I'm gonna tell them cops you crazy and you hit me... You'll go to jail for domestic violence." That sounds exactly like the kind of experience that would radicalize someone. I agree with pretty much everything you said here. I'm pro men's rights because we are missing some key ones. That doesn't mean I'm misogynistic. Women have their own rights issues. The game of suffering Olympics is tiring.	/r/MensRights	25/07/19 09:25 PM
1	Are there more objectively unattractive men than women? Gay guys are way more picky with other guys than straight guys are with women. That is my experience as a Bi guy and the sentiment is commonly echoed at r/askgaybros anyway My opinion on this subject is that this is more of an issue of "he's not my type" rather than more men being ugly. Men come in more variety in general whereas types of women are more "basic". I believe this is due to our culture more than anything. Men are more likely to nurture what makes them unique whereas women or more li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/19 09:19 PM
4	Are there more objectively unattractive men than women? This is crazy wrong. Gay guys are way more picky with other guys than straight guys are with women. That is my experience as a Bi guy and the sentiment is commonly echoed at r/askgaybros anyway	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/19 09:13 PM
-1	Woman caught on video: "I'm gonna tell them cops you crazy and you hit me... You'll go to jail for domestic violence." bluepilled Lmao. Okay hate monster.	/r/MensRights	25/07/19 09:03 PM
9	Woman caught on video: "I'm gonna tell them cops you crazy and you hit me... You'll go to jail for domestic violence." statistically speaking Statistically speaking you don't know a god damn thing about stats, nor do you have a grasp of human behavior.	/r/MensRights	25/07/19 08:49 PM
23	Woman caught on video: "I'm gonna tell them cops you crazy and you hit me... You'll go to jail for domestic violence." the average women Its one thing to note that men get discriminated against and support men's rights. Blatant misogyny is another thing entirely. This movement isn't going to get anywhere with people upvoting bullshit like this.	/r/MensRights	25/07/19 08:27 PM
4	Australian Defence Force [in]Justice System is a Joke. Double Standard. I don't know how to feel about this one. On one hand I'm angry because I'm like 90% certain this would have gone differently with reversed genders. On the other hand, I don't have all the details and the "implied consent" makes sense in the context it was presented. If it didn't make sense then activities like wrestling with buddies wouldn't be viable. I suppose I would have been more happy if they simply stuck with the "no evidence" defense rather than trying to excuse the behavior that suppose…	/r/MensRights	22/07/19 05:21 PM
5	Apparently I'm a sexist for saying this. Gotcha. Hard to tell with things that should be simple with how muddy the waters are lately.	/r/MensRights	22/07/19 05:13 PM
1	Apparently I'm a sexist for saying this. and what was the context that brought you to feel the need to say that? That matters. Its the difference between someone making sure someone accounts for a group they don't seem to be aware of and someone saying "all lives matter" when someone says "black lives matter" and completely misunderstanding the point.	/r/MensRights	22/07/19 05:07 PM
2	Apparently I'm a sexist for saying this. What did you say before? Why did you omit the context?	/r/MensRights	22/07/19 04:50 PM
0	Men arent allowed to sit Comfortably (So they dont crush their Balls) because she feels shes more entitled to Chair Space than men. Shes even been given an Award for it! Had a Chair been made to stop Fat people overflowing onto other Chairs, there would be an Uproar! While I think you're exaggerating regardless (you're legs are at this angle when you stand....), I'm don't think anyone is telling you to "pin your legs together". In almost all cases just keeping them from opening up more than 30 degrees in a public seating situation should be sufficient so your legs aren't crossing into the seat next to you. I could comfortably fit two baseballs between my thighs at that amount.	/r/MensRights	18/07/19 01:39 PM
-3	Men arent allowed to sit Comfortably (So they dont crush their Balls) because she feels shes more entitled to Chair Space than men. Shes even been given an Award for it! Had a Chair been made to stop Fat people overflowing onto other Chairs, there would be an Uproar! Unless you are severely deformed, it should not be uncomfortable to sit with your legs together. Edit: Holy shit with the downvotes. You people are being crazy triggered and just as bad as this bitch.	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 07:25 PM
7	Reminder that women don't want to debate about male rights because they can't stand to be proven wrong. You never attempted to debate about male rights. You didn't address female privilege. All you did was get triggered that she feels men have advantages in some areas. Both male privilege and female privilege exist. Sure... its possible that she is a cunt, but you framed this in a way that says "you're issues don't exist because look at mine!". She shut YOU down, not the topic.	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 03:52 PM
2	Gillette cartridges are heavily discounted here. Are their sales suffering thanks to their anti-male ad earlier this year? I'm out of the loop. I use a straight edge. What did Gillette do?	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 03:36 PM
1	Reminder that women don't want to debate about male rights because they can't stand to be proven wrong. I would tell you to stop playing stupid but...	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 03:34 PM
0	Reminder that women don't want to debate about male rights because they can't stand to be proven wrong. In what way is hamfisting male supremacy relevant to a thread pointing out statistics highlighting areas where men are harmed more? Criticizing feminism is one thing. Calling females incompetent is another.	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 03:22 PM
0	Reminder that women don't want to debate about male rights because they can't stand to be proven wrong. This is a men's rights sub, not a women hatred sub. Take your misogyny and shove it up your ass. I don't give a shit about your goalpost and I don't give a shit about your attempt to patronize me. Your comment was unacceptably sexist. I'm not here to debate you. I'm here to tell you your behavior is intolerable.	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 03:02 PM
-7	Reminder that women don't want to debate about male rights because they can't stand to be proven wrong. booooo r/incels is ------------> that way	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 02:53 PM
4	Petition: Anonymity for those accused of sexual offences until charge I agree partially. I do think a 100% anonymity thing has too much potential for corruption though. Who is going to hold a payed off/blackmailed judge accountable if no one knows they let a criminal off? Overall I find the lack of accountability and transparency in such a system to be troubling. Hard to say which situation is worse. Maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle?	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 01:55 PM
-13	Men arent allowed to sit Comfortably (So they dont crush their Balls) because she feels shes more entitled to Chair Space than men. Shes even been given an Award for it! Had a Chair been made to stop Fat people overflowing onto other Chairs, there would be an Uproar! I think guys who take up an egregious amount of space are being assholes, but I can't imagine obsessing over such a non problem. If there was no space on a crowded subway and I saw a guy taking up 2-3 sets because they were spreading their legs and ask them to make room. I've literally never had to do that though. I have had to ask a women to move her bag/purse a couple of times though. All that said, I don't buy into the idea that some guys need more space. That just isn't how the male anatomy …	/r/MensRights	17/07/19 01:47 PM
7	Feminist rages against banknotes featuring Alan Turing, the gay mathematician who helped win WW2, and demands a black lesbian in his place because "diversity". Fuck this self serving bitch. Gay males have very little representation in comparison to lesbians. Society has accepted lesbians more readily. Diversity and representation doesn't mean that every unique combination of traits has to be explicitly represented.	/r/MensRights	16/07/19 08:40 PM
5	Wage gap? Let's talk spending gap. Female gamers over 55 spend more time online gaming than males ages 15 to 24. (Source: Ford Motor Company and Trendwatching.com study, 2013) This is a pretty wild statistic to me. Edit: Wait a minute... Are they comparing exclusively female 55+ GAMERS to literally the entirety of 15-24 males? If so that is a really misleading statistic and seems utterly pointless.	/r/MensRights	16/07/19 03:55 PM
1	Getting circumcision isn't even something obligatory Sturgeon's law strikes again.	/r/MensRights	15/07/19 06:03 PM
1	This is why people hate Feminism This is insane. She can hold that viewpoint while not cheating. Consensual non monogamy is very much a thing. Monogamy isn't your partner telling you what you can and can't do with your body. Its a co-agreed upon contract of boundaries. Being against cheating is not "slut shaming". Its being against treachery.	/r/MensRights	15/07/19 05:59 PM
2	Some subreddits not allowing men into the sun but allowing trans men in is very transphobic Well if they do that would mean to me that they are respecting that they had the experience of being a women at a point in their lives and that would be valid grounds for participation because they can draw from their experiences of being a women either way. I don't think that means they aren't accepting them as a man. I thing that just means that they accept that being a women previously is enough experience to justify admission. It doesn't matter to them that they aren't women anymore. That is…	/r/MensRights	12/07/19 03:13 PM
2	Some subreddits not allowing men into the sun but allowing trans men in is very transphobic Do that let trans women in? I feel that would undermine the nature of your particular complaint. I still think its unethical regardless.	/r/MensRights	12/07/19 03:09 PM
1	I get it Its ridiculous how much of a misunderstanding a lot of the lowest common denominator has of simple concepts. I know what happened here. They are confusing specifically "systemic racism" for the racism in general. A person can't be systemically racist anyways. A person can only be racist.	/r/MensRights	12/07/19 02:26 PM
1	What can be done to lift men out of the chasm of the Black Pill ideology? Its okay to have that standard and preference. That is not the issue here lol.	/r/MensRights	09/07/19 04:59 PM
0	What can be done to lift men out of the chasm of the Black Pill ideology? Where is the toxicity? Right there. These boys and men are avoiding toxicity, they do not want STDs, they do not want to be enslaved, they do not want to be someones 20th or even 2nd choice. A person who has has a large number of sexual partners and all the baggage that comes with that is simply seen as a disgusting shallow hedonist. Be it 'Chad' or 'Stacy'.	/r/MensRights	09/07/19 04:45 PM
1	What can be done to lift men out of the chasm of the Black Pill ideology? John is not unattractive, he has a job, he would like to have a family I would hazard to say this is true of most blackpill/incel types. Most who think otherwise have internalized their issues and assume too much. In their toxic worldview, they assume themselves to be unattractive and unlovable. I've interacted with plenty of incels who act like they are quasi modo when they simply aren't. To actually answer your question, I would classify John as blackpill by definition. As a gay guy who's pote…	/r/MensRights	09/07/19 04:16 PM
-1	I still like He-Man. Just no... https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/ How many threads there are just blatantly talking about how bad men are? https://reddit.com/r/MensRights/ … aaaand compare.... Not even comparable. If I tried I could find some things that were unfair or targeting men there, but here I can't NOT see it. The top few comments on most threads here are blatantly misogynistic. You'd have to dig deep in a feminist area to find the same brand of blatant sexism displayed here. I find it hard to believe that …	/r/MensRights	29/06/19 12:05 AM
-4	I still like He-Man. No… it really can't at all. That is delusional nonsense. There are toxic proponents of feminism that use it to push misandry, but you actually have to look for it. Going to a feminist bubble and you'll occasionally stumble on it. In a men's rights setting you're just wading through it at all times. False equivalency to the max. either way... it'll get better as the movement matures. Right now a good half of the proponents are just anti-feminist reactionaries.	/r/MensRights	28/06/19 10:19 PM
14	I still like He-Man. You're goddamn right. Its pretty obvious why people think the men's rights movement is just a thin veil excuse to push misogyny with threads like this. I care for men's rights regardless though and I'm not going to stop supporting them just because the movement is flooded with assholes. Keep fighting ✊	/r/MensRights	28/06/19 08:59 PM
3	I still like He-Man. I wouldn't keep arguing with him. Its a brand new account. Probably because this asshole is such a troll he has to keep making new ones from being banned so often or something like that.	/r/MensRights	28/06/19 08:55 PM
2	Musings: Why the Fall of Classical Chivalry Mirrors the Modern Feminist "Toxic Masculinity" Situation Sorry. I guess I didn't get your original point then. Still don't. I'll just move on then.	/r/MensRights	28/06/19 01:04 PM
1	Musings: Why the Fall of Classical Chivalry Mirrors the Modern Feminist "Toxic Masculinity" Situation I'm not sure I understand. at one point, a code with masculine values. What is the relevance of this statement? You are calling the values masculine are you not? Where did I say that it was the only way to have masculinity. You are defining masculinity as that are you not? I'm confused. If those traits are masculine by definition then having them makes one more masculine and not having them makes them less masculine by that definition. I didn't accuse you of saying those were the ONLY masculine …	/r/MensRights	27/06/19 08:38 PM
-1	F in the chat You're aware not all relationships are strictly monogamous right? Nothing to do with men's rights.	/r/MensRights	27/06/19 06:07 PM
2	Musings: Why the Fall of Classical Chivalry Mirrors the Modern Feminist "Toxic Masculinity" Situation I really don't like the idea of people coopting their values with masculinity. Frankly, I feel that that is toxic. Masculinity is a very broad thing and I don't think people have a right to try to narrow it down like this. People who disagree with your values will associate that with masculinity and target men who have no interest in your values. You're also (I hope unwittingly) stealing people's masculine identities away with them not fitting your narrow definition. As someone who generally dis…	/r/MensRights	27/06/19 05:56 PM
6	Tampons for men: Numerous schools have installed menstrual products in men’s restrooms This is not an attack on men's rights whatsoever. Men's rights doesn't have anything to do with your transphobia.	/r/MensRights	27/06/19 05:48 PM
4	Idiotic post in /r/MorbidReality claims there is a woman-hating industry and lumps MGTOW/incels/redpill/MRA together I feel we could do more to distinguish ourselves from them. For example, I think we should focus more on men's rights in an intrinsic sense and stop obsessing so much about the worst parts of feminism. This makes us look like we are just using our passion for men's rights as a veil to talk about how awful women are. I don't like how half of the front page of this sub is always anti-feminist stuff. I think that is counter productive and inviting the wrong kind of people and attention. We can atta…	/r/MensRights	26/06/19 04:20 PM