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FWIW I don’t think Nolan’s Odyssey is a diatribe against men. Samantha Morton’s Circe is the character you can say is a “radical feminist”, but I don’t think the main message of the movie is anti-men, really. Honestly, I can make a list of where my interpretation differs from Nolan’s, but it's still a great adaptation worth seeing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 01:19 PM
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Ehhh I disagree with this. Sure, Samantha Morton’s Circe is probably a character that can be seen as a “radical feminist”, but I’m not sure the movie really asks the audience to sympathize with her. The movie still presents Penelope more sympathetically, and she’s not a feminist character. I would also disagree that the movie paints Odysseus as “toxic”. Sure, it tones down his wiliness and flamboyance from the original work, but the movie still wants the audience to root for him – otherwise the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 01:15 PM
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Thank you for this, I really like how they clearly define each term!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 10:53 PM
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The philosophy of feminism is incredibly broad and runs the gamut from advocating for true equality to post-modern anti-science woo. Great comment! I’m reading Feminisms: A Global History by Lucy Delap and the author also makes the same argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 12:25 PM
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Great question, I’ll answer by sharing a personal story. I had a road trip with my mother & sister where I was the one driving the car. Unfortunately, at one point my car had a misfire, so we decided to cut the trip short & return home. I wasn’t sure it was a good idea to drive my misfiring car for many miles, but my amateur mechanic friend told me by phone that it should be possible & safe enough in an emergency like that. I was honestly proud of myself that I didn’t panic for one moment, and w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 02:55 PM
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It always irritates me how lenient a lot of people are towards religion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 01:07 PM
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Progressives will dunk on the voting habits of men at every chance yet mysteriously when the topic of the voting patterns of white women comes along silence. Thank you, this is very important to keep in mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 05:22 PM
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The problem with cultural politics is that you can't legislate or litigate them. I have been thinking though, if leftists want to win over men and actually address their issues, they’d have to make a cultural sway that I think is going to be difficult. In online spaces, most of the people talking about men’s issues are right-leaning people, and I just fear that even if sincere leftists want to talk about these issues, people would be suspicious. (As in, why are you only talking about this now, w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 12:40 PM
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I had a friend who recently said to me he was scared to compliment women. Or open doors for them for fear of being chastised for being a gentleman. How sad. How sad is it that we live in a world where people cannot be kind to one because it may or may not be perceived as sexist? This is such a good point and it has (kind of) happened to me. I saw a young woman wearing a Metallica Ride the Lightning t-shirt and said to her “Metallica, nice shirt!” While she didn’t look hostile, she looked a bit c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/26 01:13 PM
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I hope he posts videos again soon, there’s no shortage of topics to talk about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/26 12:57 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate your careful arguments. That Soraya Mire video is also eye-opening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/26 02:24 PM
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This looks interesting! Please let us know when you get around to watching it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 11:15 AM
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You can support womens rights without being a feminist. I have been thinking about this for a while. If someone asks me “are you a feminist?” I’ll probably say that I agree with at least a lot of feminist ideas. I grew up in a socially conservative country and have seen how truly suffocating it can be for women. But seeing that there are actually many kinds of feminisms, and that some of these are not really egalitarian, I don’t think it’s shameful not to identify myself as a feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 12:43 PM
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hypothetically we replace all the government with women, that doesn’t mean forced conscription will vanish because in the end someone has to protect the state and do they think a woman government would send her fellow ladies to the front line? A little tangent to your overall point, but you just perfectly described why identity politics is useless. Identity does not replace already existing social structures, and it doesn't follow that having people of a certain (underrepresented) identity will …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/26 06:16 PM
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Thank you, this is my experience as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 04:24 PM
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Only a couple are really popular, like Gone Girl and Rebecca. Obviously not as popular as these two, but I would add Lessons by Ian McEwan. The resolution to the abuse (the main character is groomed by his piano teacher) is probably not satisfying, but I think the book makes the argument that the past abuse does not have to define the main character’s life. He managed to raise his son well as a single father (because his wife left him to pursue writing), and the book ends with him connecting wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 05:18 AM
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Thank you for posting this, it was a great read! I want to comment on this part: Regarding attempts to limit the career development of an eminent senior woman: “I have been black-balled from receiving several awards. I also was about to receive a job offer to become a provost when it was pulled back due to left-wing attacks…. The Left also tried to stop my selection to the National Science Board through a letter writing campaign and pressure on a highranking politician not to confirm my appointm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 10:10 PM
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as men are less likely to be religious at all I honestly didn’t know this until now: Women make up a majority of U.S. Christians but fewer than half of atheists and agnostics But other than this point, considering that men still do the most dangerous jobs, any movement towards improving wages and working conditions is (objectively) a pro-male movement. However, I don’t think left-wing movements are ready to give a better message to men – not even (US) male leftists like Zohran or Bernie want to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 01:35 AM
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It implies that misogyny is some external factor that a woman has 'caught', like a disease. This kind of thinking also eliminates politics out of the equation, which is a bad way to think about public debates. Being someone of a particular sex and gender does not mean that you will think only in a certain way about things – look at how many women support “pro-life” policies, for example. So just because a woman can think differently than the average feminist, it doesn’t mean that (1) she’s actua…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 05:32 PM
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It also relies on reframing intimacy as some kind of luxury that only a very entitled person would even think about, as if it's not a fundamental part of life. I’ve also seen that the message of “you’re not entitled to X, Y, or Z” is often directed to people (men) who are romantically “unsuccessful”, but it got me thinking, we’re not actually “entitled” to a lot of things, are we? Random example: if someone asks in a friend group chat about the best way to take a train/bus to another city, I don…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 02:44 PM
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Honestly this is one of best & most nuanced comments I’ve read on this topic. Kudos to you sir.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 02:04 PM
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Great statement, and morally serious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 04:34 PM
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The sociologist who coined the term even said that “emotional labor” is not being used correctly: https://archive.fo/HMS70
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/26 12:52 PM
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And also, there are not many people like TheTinMen, period. I have noticed that he’s gone on a lot of podcasts, but these podcast hosts are considerably more right-wing/conservative than he is (whereas TheTinMen considers himself to be on the left). I understand this is because a lot of left-wing spaces are still very allergic to men’s issues – we have seen in this sub how Bernie and Zohran responded when asked about this. Honestly, a true left-wing male advocate influencer can gain a lot of pop…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:17 PM
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I have started paying more attention to menswear recently, so this video came at the right time, thank you! I appreciate that she doesn’t really blame men for not dressing more adventorously. The world of meanswear is more fascinating than I expected, so it’s good people are talking about this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 01:31 AM
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That’s why last year’s movie I’m Stilll Here (dir. Walter Salles) is a bit refreshing. Sure, the movie has “a strong woman” as the protagonist, but the father character is also portrayed as competent and loving. No reason we can’t have both really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 07:58 PM
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Honestly, I still don’t like the term “Trump Derangement Syndrome” because the phenomenon is much more general than that. The problem is that we have political activists today who think that “the other side” can be dismissed entirely, as if they’re not living in the same society as we do. On the progressive side, this manifests as dismissing anyone who seem to care about the issues affecting men and boys, and the progressives forget to actually have a strategy and messaging that include these pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 05:14 PM
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Did those suffragettes humiliate men in going to war? Yes they did. It wasn’t exclusively a female-against-male campaign, but look up the White Feather Movement. https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/White-Feather-Movement/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 04:13 PM
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Amusingly, many of the people who make that particular argument will THROW A FIT if you ask them: "So, who would you rather meet in the forest, a black man or a bear?" Making the man black makes it hard for them to dehumanize him, because they don't wanna appear racist. So they're in a bind. I think this is one of the reasons why I’m just not convinced by the whole concept of “intersectionality”. Being black affords you less privilege, but being white supposedly does the opposite... So what happ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 03:41 AM
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not lift up the shy and anxious Thank you, you’re right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/25 03:17 PM
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that logic falls apart when it comes to amateur porn, hentai etc which are still treated as trashy. And also the fact that some of these young women genuinely enjoy making these amateur porn “contents”, and probably not only because it pays well. Obviously the majority of women and girls are not like that, but if we really want to have “serious conversations” about porn, it has to include the girls too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:18 PM
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Also link to the original study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2513561
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/25 05:43 PM
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This bit comes from a 6-minute interview with a feminist YouTuber. Looking at the context, I can definitely get behind his message here. Yes, most Mamdani voters are young women, so I can see why he didn’t talk about specific policies for men and boys. Still, I don’t have a problem with focusing on economic issues and rebuilding public spaces to help the male loneliness issue. Of course we’ll need more than that in the future, but those things he mentioned would still help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 02:05 PM
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Jessica Valenti’s piece is in the Guardian if you want to read: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/20/catcall-culture-feminism-jessica-valenti
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/25 05:01 PM
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I remember when I was in middle school and complained about girls having crushes on me, while secretly liking it. Sometimes complaining is how we mask bragging when we're sexually insecure I haven’t thought of it that way before, but I think you’re absolutely right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/25 04:55 PM
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the TinMan blog author would leave any politician in the dirt on this particular topic Yes I highly recommend his subreddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 01:22 PM
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I still admire Bernie very much, but as the YouTube comments say, his non-answers are very revealing here. He still had more to say about women’s rights than about men’s issues. Kudos to Chris for bringing this up though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 01:20 PM
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Again men are told to be assertive, confident, and take initiative, but the second they misread the invisible cues, they’re suddenly “creepy” or “pushy.” Men are punished for not being mind readers. It’s an impossible tightrope walk where the same behavior can be either attractive or threatening depending on who’s watching and how they feel that day. And most importantly how attractive the man is. One of my (female) friends really said that a guy’s action would feel less creepy if you’re attract…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 12:18 PM
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Not exaggerating, but posts like these are why I still use reddit, thank you. What you say on your edit is absolutely true: gender issues are society issues. Just as men have supported equal rights for women, male advocates should never say something like “I don’t trust women anymore” or “we don’t need women“.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 11:54 PM
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Please don't say such things. Reducing international support for Ukraine will not help Ukrainian men. On the contrary, with fewer weapons and less air defence, more of them will die. Ukrainians will not stop fighting if they receive less aid. For them, this is an existential issue, as Russians want to destroy them as a nation and erase their country from the political map Thank you for saying this, some of the left have been abysmal in their takes about Ukraine. I have even seen some leftists sa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/25 03:10 PM
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I'm old enough to remember how harsh men used to be about women's appearance, usually in a very unwarranted way. I strongly dislike feminism, but I always agreed with them in that regard. Agree with this. If I may extend an olive branch to feminism, the message that how a woman dresses gives you no right to harrass them is also a good one. It’s much better than the conservative culture in the country I grew up in, where women are told (sometimes by other women) that they are “sluts” simply for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:14 PM
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Regarding having to move to another country: I grew up in Southeast Asia and now is living in the US. Let me tell you the gender relations in both countries are shit in their different ways. In Southeast Asia everyone is obsessed with religion and every man–woman relation has to conform to religious sensibilities. Meanwhile in the US, female privileges are largely unquestioned, such as female-only lunch in a lot of the research conferences I have been to. I still prefer living in the US, but obv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 01:26 PM
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I still have a mixed feeling about Reeves (I think he's not radical enough in his conclusions and messaging), but this was a great interview.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 09:44 PM
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The video is still worth watching (all 38 minutes), but I was a bit annoyed at her framing of Joyce’s Ulysses simply as one of the books that increasingly centers on sex. For one, Joyce was an equal opportunist when it comes to describing bodily functions (not only sex, he did also write about “bowel movements” that she specifically mentioned as a counter-example). A larger point is that Ulysses’s publication was about something more than just depicting explicit sex. The censorship of Ulysses le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 02:31 AM
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And while they might not be very common yet, there are more women starting to speak out on behalf of men. https://youtu.be/m7MQjYCw5Jc?si=7NF-ERkOwUOOK0k0 Gabby is great.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 09:17 PM
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100% agree. I recently watched a video by Bettina Arndt titled “Why I Fight Feminism”. She actually raised a lot of good points in her talk, but then she ended the video by saying something like, Look at Donald Trump – the support for him in 2016 shows that lots of women actually care about men. Yeah, I don’t think framing Trump’s victory as women supporting men is a good way to look at it. How many actual working-class men will get (and have been) fucked over by his policies?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/25 12:14 PM
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"men should just make friends with other men, they aren't entitled to women!" And how many men feel they are “entitled” to girlfriends/wives anyway? I think this line just serves as a distraction, when most likely what men are talking about is the narrowing down of acceptable venues/methods to build relationships. When you grow up with the message that your romantic endeavors can make women feel unsafe – even if that’s not your intention – it’s only rational men are not bothering with relationsh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/25 02:47 PM
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Also David Attenborough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 04:27 AM
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he is our best representative for men’s issues when it comes to broaching liberal spheres. I think this is true. Of Boys and Men doesn’t go as far as I’d like, but it’s still the perfect book to recommend to liberal “normies” about men’s issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/25 03:12 PM
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The Second Sexism is a great book.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/25 03:07 PM
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My local book club is dominated by women. It's hilarious. We get on well, and they respect my choices and opinions, but still. My experience is extremely limited, but could it be that the types of books being read would affect the gender proportion? My local book clubs are female majority, but when I joined an online book club focusing on 20th century literature, the majority are (older) male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 03:20 AM
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What's on my mind is Adolph Reed Jr.'s comment about neoliberalism. I'm simplifying here: he said that neoliberalism failed to deliver enough things to enough people to maintain its legitimacy and that's why we see a backlash in recent times (both on the left & right). A similar thing might be happening to feminism, that male concerns (such as dating) are so often dismissed that a lot of people are beginning to question feminism. E.g. is feminism really about "gender equality" after all? I just …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 07:34 PM
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This is all I know: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-27/five-canadian-ice-hockey-players-sexual-assault-case/105576656 Ontario Superior Court Justice Maria Carroccia cleared all five men, telling the courtroom that she did not find the complainant's evidence to be "credible or reliable" and that the Crown failed to prove she did not consent to the sexual activity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 01:13 PM
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because their initiation into politics is based on aesthetics, their participation is mostly aesthetic, too, lacking principles. This is such a good insight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 02:25 PM
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As for your concern, OP, about Fiamengo being too harsh, I'm fine with her being harsh. Same here, I like Fiamengo's essay. In the world of political messaging, yes we still need moderates like Richard Reeves, but we need more strident voices such as this one too. (But then again, my political awakening was Hitchens et al. and "New Atheism", so that might not be a surprise to hear.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/25 09:38 PM
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"Emotional labour" is just a buzzword The sociologist who coined it doesn’t even agree with the modern use of the term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 12:11 PM
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But the consequences of doing away with monogamy can also be: a war of everybody against everybody for partners It can be worse than that: The Economist has argued that polygamy can lead to actual wars. Not sure how viable this theory is, but I just have a feeling that doing away with monogamy will be bad for society. Monogamy is more progressive than some people might think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 05:14 PM
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It would not be as bad as too many men. A surplus of single women is unlikely to become physically abusive. Indeed, you might speculate that a mostly female world would be more peaceful and better run. But if women were ever to make up a large majority, some men might exploit their stronger bargaining position in the mating market by becoming more promiscuous or reluctant to commit themselves to a relationship. For many heterosexual women, this would make dating harder. Some wanting to couple up…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 01:18 PM
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I have been thinking for some time that having more women leaders does not necessarily mean having less conflicts. It’s good to see there’s data showing this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 12:42 PM
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Thanks for posting this. Quillette gets a bad rap among progressives, but articles like this show they can be “objectively” more progressive. That Stoet & Geary, 2019 figure is so illuminating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/25 02:18 AM
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The Second Sexism by David Benatar
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 01:00 PM
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That the media chooses nevertheless to focus on young men illustrates the male gaze that continues to dominate society, which not only means that whatever men do or think is deemed inherently important and worthy of both academic and political attention, but also sets men as the norm. What the fuck is this? If the goal is to get men and women together to enact policies that are better for everyone why would you reduce this just to be a “male gaze”? Is this your strategy to win, to exclude potent…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 01:23 PM
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I recommend reading a recent profile of Reeves in The Nation and make up your own mind: https://archive.fo/7gJmt I haven't read Of Boys and Men yet, but based on the article I have a mixed feeling about Reeves. On the one hand, he's made male advocacy more mainstream in recent times – a good thing as we need an opposition against male-advocacy skepticism. On the other, he is just not radical enough for me, and his kind of liberalism that just doesn't appeal to me. Look at this part: “So much of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 04:31 PM
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TheTinMen has some amazing stuff on his Reddit page, you should check it out. His podcast is also excellent. Here’s the most recent one discussing “Adolescence”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:54 PM
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"Give her what she really wants for Christmas... A cheat pass" Holy fuck this is so unhinged
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 10:05 PM
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I just want to say, I love your detailed reply to the comments. I learned a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/24 02:19 PM
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Yeah so the solution is “women have sex with us right now,” and “women don’t make so much money now” and “women don’t do better than men in schools now.” Really unfair to say this – you can easily find better examples and arguments. One of the male advocates who recently grew in popularity is Richard Reeves, and he certainly doesn’t make this kind of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:02 PM
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I have been thinking of how romance is portrayed in media – specifically, how useless and inaccurate most of them are. That said, these are some that I find interesting: Middlemarch by George Eliot: Rosamond Vincy and Tertius Lydgate’s marriage is probably the best depiction of a disastrous marriage. In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust: Marcel’s relationship with Albertine is grade A exhibit that romance is not all sunshine & butterflies. It can be a source of toxic emotions as demonstrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:31 PM
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That can't possibly bode well for the prospects of Japanese men in their own country, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if the rate of male loneliness in Japan is as high, or higher, than in the west. Can confirm with an anecdote: I’m from Southeast Asia and have a friend who is now working in Japan. (He’s not Japanese but grew up in Japan, so speaks Japanese fluently.) He’s average-looking, but is a good person and responsible in his work. He told me he also has trouble dating there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 03:30 AM
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In my experience in a book club with younger people, there’s a tendency that books by older male authors (those straight white males) have to be judged by today’s feminist standards. Isaac Asimov: sexist. Arthur C. Clarke: fortunately not as sexist as Asimov, etc etc. I once pointed out that, in Twilight, all the passages about how good-looking Edward is are just ridiculous. I was countered by Well, at least it’s not as bad as men writing women... Look, I’m not a big fan of the sexism in Saul Be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/24 01:07 AM
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Most if not all of my female friends talk about how "the fear when walking home at night" is one of the most fundamental experiences to being a woman. Many have talked about putting their keys between their fingers or sharing their location on their phone etc. I believe them and sympathise with them, but am also aware that men are much more likely to be attacked or even killed by a stranger than women are The newest example is all the brouhaha over Saoirse Ronan’s comment on the Graham Norton sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/24 04:21 PM
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I’m Gen Y and I know one from a book club I was in. This is what she literally said: “Nowadays I try not to read novels about men, you know.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:00 PM
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Feminist Guardian columnists are the worst, geez
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 02:38 PM
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This is a well-written review, thanks for sharing!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 01:57 AM
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The Prim Reaper Fif Badaki They are not super active though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:36 AM
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“Now women, I just want you to know; you are not perfect, but what I can say pretty indisputably is that you’re better than us [men].” Can’t believe this is a real quote!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/24 01:58 PM
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I think that's a good question. I dug up the source of "why lesbian marriage divorce rates were so much higher than gay marriage divorce rates," it comes from England and Wales census 2019: Unreasonable behaviour was the most common reason for opposite-sex couples divorcing in 2019 with 49% of wives and 35% of husbands petitioning on these grounds; it was also the most common reason for same-sex couples divorcing, accounting for 63% of divorces among women and 70% among men. Source: Divorces in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:15 AM
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Long video, but Fif Badaki on YouTube has talked about some of these themes: https://youtu.be/-xN3WSthzrY?si=4iM-lpEI9cR5bT2q
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:52 PM
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Join a book club: I don't know why this gets brought up as a viable place to meet women. Women who join book clubs pretty much only join women-only book clubs with the intention of reading a certain genre, usually true crime, romance, or mystery. And if you want other book genres (e.g. 20th century literature, or similar), most of the members will be men anyway. Speaking from experience, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:53 PM
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