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This sounds like bullshit. If you're a 6' 4" 8 or 9, you would have gay guys throwing themselves at you 24-7.
/r/seduction03/07/26 04:05 AM
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Also the social risk to them is exponentially higher than it is to men. If you approach a girl and get shot down, your peer group may give you shit for a few minutes but that's the end of it. Of a woman goes through the same experience, her peer group will think less of her forever. This is why if they are ever open in their advances, it's almost always either in isolation or with extreme discretion. Or they're hammered. Women who are very attracted to you will usually use orbiting/social circle…
/r/seduction03/07/26 04:03 AM
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I would say more like "shiny fish, dog shit pond". I've been out of dating and the country from 2015-2024, I have a limited sample size but I am dismayed in the shift away from substance and towards surface value of people. I assume this is due to the prevalence of online dating. In 2015 it existed but was not taken seriously. It seems your social market value is how attractively you can present yourself in the 4-6 photos you put on your online dating profile. Sad. The male to female ratios are …
/r/seduction03/07/26 03:57 AM
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It's like 2 or 3 every time I go out. They will not be overtly aggressive, but will initiate conversation and kino escalation, which to me is like humping my leg. Often, they're just aggressively eye fucking the shit out of me. 12% bf vs. 30%+, heavy musculature, weird part is I'm in an isolated, super racist part of the US and I'm not white. Perhaps my advantage is that I'm surrounded by poor, fat, white blue collar morons with no conception of how to take care of themselves. Hoping to move to …
/r/seduction03/07/26 01:12 AM
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I just got hot and they're coming out of the woodwork. The weird part is that right before getting hot they were way below acceptable. Now they are actually all 7-8+ and I have no idea why.
/r/seduction03/07/26 12:39 AM
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Your friends and families opinions are worthless when it comes to your SMV. Like any market, the marketplace screams the truth to you regardless of what you personally think your worth is. I just recently became attractive and you will fucking feel the difference in your interactions with women when you switched to sexually attractive vs. everyone else. At this point I would say find your most attractive female friend, or your friend with the hottest gf, and try to wrong the truth from them. Als…
/r/seduction27/06/26 08:18 AM
1

You want to seed it early on the date (I have a hookah back at my place, I have to let my dog out/you have to meet him, I just got this amazing fish tank etc.) Also you don't want to wait for an emotional downbeat, suggesting the bounce home at the peak of a crescendo is much more effective.
/r/seduction24/06/26 01:57 PM
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How does that logic reconcile with girls obsession with nothing under 6' 0"?
/r/seduction24/06/26 02:55 AM
-1

Are you physically escalating through the date, testing compliance, push/pull?
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:20 PM
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Direct requires her to make an instant value judgement on you based on the most superficial possible criteria. It's effectiveness scales proportionally with what each girl and society perceives is "high value". Why gamble on that when you can stack the deck in your favor?
/r/seduction12/09/25 09:53 PM
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If you drop the exact same line that 50 other guys used that week, sure. That you're guiding them through the attraction phase and shifting to comfort etc. etc. Absolutely not. That just feels natural. It just happened.
/r/seduction14/04/25 02:58 AM
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This has been the reality for the entire existence of dating on the internet. They just used overseas farms rather than AI. Remember Ashley Madison, and how there was a 90/10 m/f ratio but none of the users realized it?
/r/seduction02/03/25 05:32 PM
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I don't know how AI factors into a dating app other than a thin illusion. When your dating app doesn't lead to dates...
/r/seduction02/03/25 04:51 PM
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I'm 38 and undergrads think I'm their age. I haven't sunscreened up to this point but I just bought a 2-1 lotion/sunscreen.
/r/seduction27/02/25 11:51 AM
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Walking by a place I know is pretty good on the first date and saying ,"Have you been there? They have the best xxx.." and then asking if she wants to try the whatever. Or just something between 2-7 days that you're doing anyway and ask if she wants to come along. I once took a girl in a second date to Topgolf because I was going to play in a corporate golf tournament later in the week and didn't want to embarrass myself too much. It could easily have just been a 6-pack and a cheap driving range…
/r/seduction31/12/24 09:05 PM
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If you do it right, she can't tell the difference.
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:16 AM
55

You manufacture it. For her, it just happens.
/r/seduction20/10/24 11:15 PM
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I stopped reading after the second paragraph. If someone asks me for pickup advice, I tell them to find and download the mysterymethod PDF and videos and read/watch them. Or choose whatever other basics onboarding package exists. Taking a random into a bar and trying to explain what's going on there and sending them on approaches is a waste of everyone's time.
/r/seduction20/10/24 08:27 PM
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Attraction game.
/r/seduction02/10/24 04:38 PM
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You think it would work. You'd like to think it would work. Just like all of us, you're wrong. If what you thought worked, what are you doing here?
/r/seduction26/09/24 04:54 PM
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Just push it back 10 minutes... It's not rocket science, it's not a place to build attraction. You need ligistical data,.the less you say the better. I got held up with something, I'll be there at T+10min.
/r/seduction26/09/24 04:52 PM
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Push it back 10 minutes.
/r/seduction26/09/24 04:50 PM
1

So if you can pull them after the down payment and moneys not really involved anymore, "game" might be superfluous for you.
/r/seduction20/09/24 07:54 AM
1

Are these hookers? Off duty strippers? Sugar babies in waiting? In a consensual relationships, even if it isn't 50/50, you should expect both parties to put in some equity. They are there for the money. If you're smashing them and paying them, they're hookers/escorts. Some places have very low-key introductions like a bar or a karaoke spot, other places line them up for selection like Rush Hour 3? 4? I understand what your idea is of social proof, of image. The question is, introduce a new girl …
/r/seduction20/09/24 04:03 AM
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It's not real pre selection because it's obvious like when you get bottle service on Vegas. Also, the girl youre paying to hang out, if not an actual wingwoman actively working to your benefit, would probably tell any girl you're trying to pick up that you're paying them. "How do you know x?" Boom. You look like a total loser, her attraction towards you 0's out. Im not sure if actual wingwomen advertise or are hireable, but that would probably actually help.
/r/seduction20/09/24 02:26 AM
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They don't need to be legitimate. you can pick her attribute, invent someone as your first girlfriend, give them that attribute with a test. You remind me of x.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:18 AM
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Actually, if you've already slept with her it's incredibly easy. Especially if she doesn't have a great reason to say no (serious relationship etc .) I just realized this is a YMMV, but the guy I'm responding to has no idea what he's talking about. Whatever low effort preamble you used while dating, mirror that, then ask them over (2 drinks at bar you've been to before. The why this works is lame.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:12 AM
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Sup
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:05 AM
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She knows what a piece of shit she is, you treating her nicely just resolved in her mind that you're an idiot/chump. Treating her like shit squares the circle for her + seeing evidence of you with another woman will drive her insane. The motive is a complete lack of self awareness combined with a love for drama and the understanding that without this her life is so crushingly boring she might be compelled to do another "soft suicide" taking just a few too many pills. Not enough to kill her but e…
/r/seduction13/03/24 01:33 AM
0

I think that if you're going to post on the nature of women and not once address the fact that throughout history, they will sacrifice their life for one thing, to protect their children. And the knock on effects of that, caveat, etc.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/23 12:24 AM
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It's pretty standard that going out with a group is better vs. going out alone. Unless you're so experienced that it doesn't matter anymore, if you are working a room, its hard to look worse than standing alone in a room full of groups. You get the home base aspect between sets. Mixed groups are better, and in my experience having a girl who is attracted to you that you have no dating history with is great in attraction.
/r/seduction06/09/23 03:21 PM
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Any escalation she doesn't want she'll let you know. If you back up continue increasing A and try previous escalation, I'd 2nd refusal I usually see no reason to push. Figure if there's any friend value, decide, get your kiss on the cheek and move on
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:47 AM
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I agree that this is probably the fundamental issue. I 100% disagree that this issue could ever be solved in a comprehensive way to remove the threat. It's not like men don't have these issues in other countries, but what they don't have is easy access to guns. Gun access is the only difference here, and the only reasonable solution.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/18 09:17 PM
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I read about 5 sentences in and can already tell you you're completely wrong. It is not wealth or money, it's perceived status that women respond to most strongly. You do not need money to have status. Also, having had a good job that paid a lot of money, you don't want the girls that are attracted to you for that reason. They see you as a meal ticket and a source of money or possible future crash landing pad. They will still fuck you and won't be too stingy with it, but you will be getting beta…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 03:10 AM
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Kino escalation is the difference. If you start escalating early and move quickly, there's no way she can be confused and think you want to be friends.
/r/seduction03/07/16 04:13 AM
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90 seconds
/r/seduction29/03/16 04:52 AM
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I got one, but she wrecked me (made me beta) and was fucking crazy. I am Indian BTW. I was 23, she was 30, we used to work together but she ended up getting fired and started stripping for money. 5' 2" 100 lbs, 32DD (purchased by her ex-harvard lawyer boyfriend who threw her away). Massive daddy issues, bipolar, rode the carousel. Physically everything I ever wanted in a girl but nothing else.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/15 11:46 PM
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I agree, I've been on both ends of AF and BB. You can easily tell which relationship was which, and use that to improve your future encounters. In my experience, the willingness of the woman to give you oral without recompense (gifts, giving her oral, etc.) directly correlated with whether I was AF or BB to her.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/15 12:27 PM
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Honestly, I have no idea how to do this. I've traveled, I've slept around, I've had a successful career and none of it really made me feel a ton better.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:39 AM
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Yeah, I've been slacking, really you just have to have a true abundance, but ever since I've lost my job I've been in a rut and not met any new girls.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:37 AM
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Yes I cared. I hope that the point isn't to have a shitload of unemotional sex, because I'm not sure how much better that is than jerking off? I like to like girls. Unfortunately I have the expectation for them to be decent human beings, which I know is wrong. I've had both beta and alpha relationships, and the alpha ones were better sexually but also required much more responsibility. You kind of end up mindfucking yourself into the concept that decency, fidelity, and respect are qualities you …
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:35 AM
2

TRP is still giving them exactly what they need, but you're still giving it to them.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:19 AM
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Nope, slept with 4 other girls during the time we dated. Its just the straw that broke the camels back.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:18 AM
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I wasn't looking for an endgame with this particular slut, it was more of an existential question. I've moderately traveled (10-15) countries, about to go for 2-3 months to southeast Asia, but I'm not sure that will actually make me happy.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 07:17 AM
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Where's the victory? What's the endgame? I had a plate I'll never see again, artist from Minnesota, 25 years old, and she's the only girl I've actually liked in the past year that I've dated.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 06:04 AM
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I've always been puzzled by this behavior. It's hard to reconcile as a guy when you know a girl has had one night stands before, but she won't bang you on the first date even though she's "really into you". You have to assume she's full of shit and wants to use you to satisfy a need other than sex. At that point you can take the compromise and put in the extra work (1-2 dates) for it, or reject the premise and move on. I'm not sure what the right decision is anymore.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 08:46 PM
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Monica Lewinsky was not hot either. Men at that level bang what's around and convenient, he doesn't have the time to go trolling in bars.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 03:02 PM
9

Sounds reasonable. We are threatening their way of life.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 05:03 PM
1

I find it hard to trust this guys viewpoints due to him trying to escape prison. Escaping without the connections to get out of the country is retarded, where the fuck is he going to go?
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 09:37 PM
1

Kino escalation.
/r/seduction26/11/14 12:48 PM
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It is, but you gutted it like a dumbass. Its an example of one of the 48 laws of power or 33 rules of war (one of Robert Greene's books)
/r/TheRedPill23/11/14 10:39 PM
3

Maybe you should bang higher quality women.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/14 12:38 AM
-17

I can read. You opened with a cringy, shitty line a 12 year old would use and made up a story that reads like implausible fiction.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 04:56 AM
-28

No, I think this story is made up. Thank the Lords of Reddit? Are you kidding me?
/r/TheRedPill15/11/14 04:04 AM
11

When did spanking, choking, cumming on, and generally degrading the girl you're having sex with become work?
/r/TheRedPill12/11/14 03:55 PM
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I've seen it. I had a random come over off tinder at 1 am in the morning, and the second she got into my apartment you could see her attitude and eyes change as she saw all the shit I had. Kind of a "I could live here" type of vibe. Banged her and never responded to her texts.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 10:09 PM
4

Pretty good, but I have a major issue with Step 5: Game First, you should start talking to women even when you have low value, and learn all the PUA BS. If you want really attractive women in their prime, high value is nowhere near enough. You either need to be part of an extremely high value social circle, or a position of extremely high value (president of an organization, owner of a club/bar), or extremely good facial and physical asthetics, and extremely good game. Good game and putting wome…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 06:28 PM
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One thing that OP forgot is picking venues that isolate your target demographic, or even more important, that isolates your demographic. A lot of my success has been from trolling international organizations and mixed ethnicity frat parties. Those girls wouldn't be there if they weren't interested in foreign guys.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 04:08 AM
2

You can migrate the number to your next phone....
/r/TheRedPill16/09/14 12:05 PM
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I don't think the right way to deal with this is to print out a spreadsheet and shove it in her face. That's an awful frame to buy into, and how often do women actually respond to logical arguments. I prefer the route of getting her worked up, pushing her down to her knees and pulling your dick out. Slap her in the face a few times with it. Make her your little slut.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 05:17 PM
1

I'm not advocating marriage, I'm advocating evaluating the mother of your children based on genetic potential and family history, not just her looks.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 04:58 PM
4

The stripper thing was a deviation from my main point. What I was getting at was the heavily weighted evaluation of women based on their SMV vs the genetic qualities they could imbue to their offspring e.g. height, intelligence, beauty, propensity towards heart issues.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 09:44 PM
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I'm not advocating marriage, I agree that it's heavily favored towards women at the point. I'm arguing that there are more things to evaluate a woman on other than her physical appearance/SMV value.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 09:39 PM
0

Status. You need status. Own a bar, run a company, lead/run something and be surrounded by wealthy, attractive people who look up to you and respect you. This is what beautiful girls respond to.
/r/seduction22/07/14 03:04 PM
1

I have plenty of money, but my primary constraint on life is vacation days. There's just not a ton of time to go on real, meaningful journeys.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 03:16 PM
2

Quick question, any concerns over statutory rape?
/r/seduction03/05/14 02:24 PM
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I've been dating a few girls in their early twenties and they all seem to be ambition less selfie taking morons. I want to shoot myself, hearing them drone on about Tinder, their instagram feed, or some other useless garbage.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 03:30 AM
-24

Not a newcomer, know the term, it still sounds retarded.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 03:21 PM
4

What the fuck are you talking about? Maybe petty thieves or college drug dealers, but serious criminals are as RP as it gets. They put their lives on the line constantly for wealth and power.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/14 11:15 PM
1

Spoiler Alert: He and Claire double team their security guy. Frank openly makes out with him. He's bisexual at least.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 05:35 AM
2

You're in the wrong sub.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 05:24 AM
2

I like the relationship problem one.
/r/seduction19/02/14 09:06 PM
1

Season 1, Episode 2
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 01:29 AM
1

I disagree. I'd say at least 30% of my first dates end with us in my bed drunkenly making out, rounding second and heading for third. Then you hit LMR, you push a little, she gets firm, and then you go to sleep. Second date has an over 90% chance of sex. It's seems like the white American girls version of not being a slut, making you wait for 3-4 days.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 05:24 PM
-7

What do you want to meet her dumbass friends for?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 09:26 PM
-11

Honestly, you need to instill more fear in your relationships. I only get back talk from women when they are angry enough to have a panic attack. You need to maintain a frame that you're about to choke her out or walk out the door and never see her again. She should be terrified in your presence. Treating a woman as an equal is one of the dumbest things you can do. She is not your equal, and letting her think so has the same effect as letting a child think they are your equal. Terrible behavior,…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 08:39 PM
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I have met this guy in person. I won't say he's wrong, I will say I wouldn't trust a word out of his mouth. He basically hitchhiked to the event, was hitting us up for cash, and his presentation/talk was completely unbelievable. Last lair meeting I went to after I met some decent guys to break off with.
/r/seduction23/01/14 06:40 PM
2

This is something you drop in the comfort phase. Say you want to keep your options open, just got out of a relationship, not looking for anything serious, etc.
/r/seduction20/01/14 12:04 AM
1

"Let me see your hands" (compliance test, should almost always work) You can go a couple of ways with this: Inspect her fingernails, tell her she needs to go to the bathroom and wash up (playfully!) (neg + compliance) Palm read (DHV + kino) Transition to a salsa dancing/ballroom casual position and ask her if she knows how to dance "x" style. (DHV + kino) Drop one hand, raise up the other with her hand in it (if she's had formal dance lessons, she'll know to spin, otherwise, teach her what it me…
/r/seduction08/01/14 07:31 PM
1

Research active disinterest. You need to be there, you need to be talking to her, but you need to be disqualifying her in some way, either through negs (My favorite: Oh, I really like your outfit, I saw another girl wearing it last weekend, it must be really popular right now), or a straight up disqualification (You seem nice, but you're not really my type). DHV, tell a story, be funny and interesting, neg, kino an obstacle or another member of the group, if she's interested, she will start touc…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 03:18 PM
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I had a tiny hot girl choke me out at a bar after using the apocalypse opener. Not sure whether that was a rejection or not.
/r/seduction01/01/14 02:58 PM
8

This site is not great. That was buzz feed worthy drivel.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 05:38 AM
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I honestly don't give a shit what you think.
/r/seduction18/12/13 12:05 AM
1

Not bad, you're trying to force it a little to much though. The writing, not the FR.
/r/seduction17/12/13 04:58 PM
2

Money? That's how the real world values useful drive and talent.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/13 08:14 PM
1

A good compliance test is to hold out your hand, and ask her if she can dance. If she puts her hand in yours, raise that hand up over your head (holding hers) which is a universal lead for "it's time to spin". If she turns, reward her, if not, frown at her, and show her that when that happen, she's supposed to do a spin. (Lower back kino, possible arm kino). She is now used to your touch in a non-threatening way, and listening to instructions. Move forward.
/r/seduction02/12/13 02:13 AM
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Yeah, using banter from a comic book to interact with women is a poor proposition, as is most of your advice.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 12:35 AM
8

A shit ton of Spiderman comics? Are you fucking kidding me?
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 10:41 PM
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I've found out that if you are solid friends with a girl, you should use her as a pivot, pick up a girl, then bring her over to your friend. Kino the friend in front of the new girl, then start kino escalating on the new girl. Monkey see, monkey do. One of two things will happen: Girl will see you kino friend and her be okay with it, and you can escalate a lot smoother Or: Friend will "realize" she has feelings for you, intercept, and now you can escalate her with 0 awkwardness. Have fun!
/r/seduction07/11/13 01:17 PM
-1

I read The Game when I was 19. Didn't have to put in any time.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/13 01:04 PM
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Petroleum Engineering. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/09/10/219372252/the-most-and-least-lucrative-college-majors-in-1-graph It's pretty fucking awesome. I'm 26 and make close to 130k including bonus. It's a field where you can really stand out and with tons of options in the future, where you're in demand and people are chasing you. Most importantly, with doctors and lawyers and careers of that nature, your earning are directly in line with the number of hours you work, the number of patie…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/13 02:21 PM
0

Get them drunk.
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:25 PM
1

Check rigzone.com and filter for chemistry work. Look at the job descriptions and see if that's what you want to do with your life.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 01:09 AM
2

Yes there is a lot of opportunities for chemists. You can do GC work, oil and water analysis, chemical analysis, asphaltene and other heavy oil component analysis. I think a vast majority of the jobs will be for service companies (Schlumberger, halliburton, etc.) For operators (Chevron, Shell, etc.), you would be doing research. At UT Dr. Pope's group is focused on Chemical EOR and is a good place to get a grad degree if you want to do that type of work.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 01:08 AM
2

There's upstream and downstream in the oil and gas industry. Upstream is everything from the reservoir to the surface facilities, and downstream covers facilities to end consumer (gas station). Petroleum engineers focus on the upstream side of the business, specifically developing oil and gas fields and managing wells. The 3 major jobs you're going for as a PE are Drilling, Production, or Reservoir engineers. Drilling encompasses the planning and execution of drilling wells. Production is the ma…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 01:39 PM
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I did petroleum engineering. I do not regret it.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 08:01 PM
1

This is dumb.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/13 01:19 PM
1

"Full disclosure, the main reason I want to see you is that you seemed pretty interesting and i want to give you a shot, but doing this part over text is a bad idea."
/r/seduction15/07/13 03:55 PM
1

Unfortunately, I live in a shithole (awful talent pool) and want an angle for recovery.
/r/seduction15/07/13 03:18 PM
1

I think you have an issue with value. Do you have survival value? Do people want to be around you? You say you've made a lot of mates in school. Mates as in hookups? or mates as in bros? They're not your bro if they're not even your friend. You're not popular if you don't have friends. People can tell you anything. You need to focus on what people actually do. There's something fishy about this whole post.
/r/seduction24/05/13 08:02 PM
1

Read sperm wars. I think it's a straight 10% across all social classes, races, geographical areas, etc.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/13 02:24 PM
0

One of the definitive books of my life. Changed everything, I highly recommend it.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/13 02:28 PM
4

A solid, solid 2.5.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/13 03:15 PM
1

Sounds like you're confusing winging with being a pimp.
/r/seduction03/05/13 07:39 PM
3

Austin, TX
/r/seduction11/03/13 09:35 PM
9

Honestly? No fat chicks.
/r/seduction08/03/13 03:36 PM
1

Help yourself.
/r/seduction26/02/13 06:21 PM
1

No.
/r/seduction15/02/13 03:18 PM
4

Mini golf with BYOB option. Bring a 6-pack and your A-game. If you really want to get to know someone, play a game with them. You'll see how they react under pressure, what kind of risks they take, are they intelligent, do they care, do they win poorly, do they lose poorly, and a variety of other emotional responses to everyday situations. This is important. Plus booze never hurt anyone's chances.
/r/seduction11/02/13 02:44 PM
1

It works shockingly well. And they often have hot friends who aren't brave enough to go to these things. And there is alcohol. And you are generally surrounded by guys with no game at all. So money and you don't even know it.
/r/seduction30/01/13 04:12 PM
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Join whatever professional networking/ young professionals groups that are in your area and field. The broader ones are usually packed with hot girls who have good jobs who want to meet guys with good jobs.
/r/seduction29/01/13 06:57 PM
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