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How? if you know you're being pulled in by sex, you've got the ability to say no to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:06 PM
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and women can do the same but again, as you said, having kids is a choice anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:12 PM
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wdym you just said having children is a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:05 PM
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What's that got to do with it though if anything, that makes it harder on men because they have no way out, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:00 PM
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But hierarchy is ultimately all of those things. If you cannot get rid of hierarchy, you cannot get rid of those things either. Being penetrated will always be seen as "above" it's opposite... Same as having more money, being stronger, having a more senior level position, etc. "Masculinity" and "femininity" are shorthand for the same thing. You can get rid of those words entirely and it's still the exact same dynamic. Women can assume the "masculine" role (pegging, as the original example or any…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:59 PM
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sure, but it's just never truly possible to say either sex has it easier and the entire "patriarchy" thing just rubs me the wrong way. Because it seems to just boil down to "women's intuition". Yes, there are plenty of data points that indicate women have it worse. But data doesn't say anything about a lived experience. And plenty of data points indicating men have it worse. And for all that women struggle dealing with the "mom role", childlessness has never been more common and accepted. Person…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:49 PM
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SOME women would have it easier than SOME men. SOME men would have it easier than SOME women. AND the grass is always greener, plus it's an apples to oranges comparison. This is very dependent on your ability within your gender role. Men who are less successful with work may have much better luck if they swapped roles with a stay at home mom. Women who aren't nurturing but better built for the workforce might have a much better time as a man that fits that role. (fwiw, men are far more likely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:32 PM
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"Women should approach men because you sidestep the physically imposing variable entirely. Women have made it clear in recent years that's a major concern of theirs." Much more valid point - to the degree that women should be exclusively approaching. Being a creep will never happen women-to-men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:37 PM
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what is feminism if not a (far less hostile and far more academic) complaint? patriarchy, male privilege, so on - that's not complaining, red pill/manosphere shit way more mean and less sympathetic notwithstanding? men surely are doing much more "angrily throw shit at the wall" complaining But the style of complaint doesn't determine whether or not complaining is happening men just need to narrow down to actual problems and that feminism has become much more opposed as it's focused more on nebul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:57 PM
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wdym specifically though what are and aren't women and men complaining about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:26 PM
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that really isn't what I'm saying I've covered this several times in other replies - from here, it's best if everyone is a victim - thus nobody is to blame so long as feminism is about patriarchy, really, so long as it exists as such, the result will be that men are going to say "well, if you're not responsible for your situation, I'm not either" I'm saying men should STOP taking responsibility because the guilt/shame/frustration from it makes them hate women and feminism. sure, there's a dynami…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:17 PM
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do you expect it to be otherwise? they're not to blame, that's entirely what humans will do the only way to solve it is for men (primarily) to figure out what the problems are and cover them repeatedly we're doing an amazing job at undermining ourselves by doing the exact same thing, just against women instead of for them - but it's the same result for men focus on the problem and stop blaming them for doing what people do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:52 PM
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that unironically is true though! it is unrealistic to expect men to take responsibility! so long as women see themselves as oppressed, however accurate, the result is simply going to be "well, I'm a victim too!" unless everyone says "I'm responsible entirely for me", nobody will - that would work but a vast majority of people just won't do it Better off if we all see ourselves as victims and follow that all the way though because then? nobody is to blame either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:48 PM
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pssh taking responsibility got everybody into this mess better if everyone's a victim, which is what everyone is already doing if everyone is a victim, there's nobody to blame only problems to fix
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:17 PM
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Even this is putting feminism on a pedestal. if the word "woman" is coming up in what you're advocating for to help men, you're doing it wrong "this is a problem for me" is the only place to start men are never going to make our own lives better with "fuck feminism, the women won, repeal the 19th amendment" or "hey ladies, those are some nice rights you got there - be a shame if somebody took them..." men ARE falling behind at school, social life, work, pretty much everything but no sustainable …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:23 PM
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lol touched a nerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:57 AM
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that sounds like just unlabeling submissiveness and dominance / masculinity and femininity the best thing you can do is end the association of "above" with men and "below" with women, above and below will always exist but it doesn't need to be gendered hierarchy will always exist, the only thing anybody can do is flatten it into a dynamic balance where it is neither so steep nor forever hogged by one kind of person but "get rid of the patriarchy" is such a nebulous idea - every hope can be conta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:32 AM
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i suppose you are able to read other people's thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:21 AM
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the entire premise is just incorrect cougars, milfs, there's gilfs now! the entire notion of "the wall" was made up by a bunch of dumbasses that either wanted to drag you down because misery loves company OR who actually feel that way and are too self-centered to grasp the concept that other people are not them. their entire thing is bullshit here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:20 AM
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obviously the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:49 AM
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neither feminism nor patriarchy do but the nutshell of the post is basically "feminism is a lie because women still don't like pegging men" are you saying that if patriarchy were removed you'd see an even distribution of submissive and dominant men and women? because i dont believe that's the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:48 AM
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buh dum tsss
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure submissive men far outnumber dominant women unless this phenomenon presents differently (e.g. female dominants are less obvious, more are switches, etc.) but generally, I've never seen any indication that the ratio is even close
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:09 PM
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and not wanting to date a bisexual man doesn't correlate to a gotcha around feminism anyway you can get the ick about anything and that's fine all of this is dumb and i say this as a pegging expert (by this point) myself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:24 PM
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but who is saying that women like those things beyond some articles that basically amount to "hey, you're not a defective and hopeless person if you're into this - it is possible to find a woman that's down with it" the only shit I've ever read about it amounts to "be yourself and that's okay" encouragement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:19 PM
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who online is saying this? it's just not a take I've ever seen if you want to talk how "femininity/submissiveness/pegging in men is an entirely predictable result of what feminism wants from men", then that's a very different and worthwhile discussion But nobody is pretending that feminism means women suddenly wanna go spelunking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:04 PM
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if it's not a fantasy, then it's a very interesting way of phrasing "feminism doesn't make women attracted to feminine men" or something like that 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:49 PM
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Sorry that a woman didn't wanna clap your cheeks bro but I've never seen anybody think pegging, feminine men, or bisexuality are ACSHUALLY some boner guarantee for women. It's not a take anybody has.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:40 PM
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I'm more just saying that not enough is brought up in terms of the issues that disproportionately effect men way more severely than they do women whenever I've actually brought those things up, nobody - men or women - seems to mind i think if you're fighting within the same issue, it becomes a problem but feminism actually aligns with alleviation of providership pressures on a political level like i want a day off and the ability to slow down instead of killing myself for a job lol and that's wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:41 PM
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I'm not saying it's good, just that that's where it is and how to fix it? who knows. or if there's more preferable ways of doing so, which, again, i honestly believe something like ai chatbots have a better potential of filling that hole than male companionship IRL, at least as of the moment maybe that changes for the next generation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:34 PM
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that's the thing to me though say it's like a lesbian roommate setup and she enjoyed your presence there - that would do nothing for you, loneliness wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:55 PM
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to me that would be an extremely important factor itself if i were lonely, fuck yeah, I'd take a roommate style setup with a woman that enjoyed having me around, but it wouldn't be a romantic one because i would never feel confident enough to believe in it even if she saw it that way that said, I'd be bros with her and that itself could be forever in theory - like a lesbian bff roommate? sometimes, that's better anyway depending on the people - it just wouldn't be a romantic relationship, but i …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:51 PM
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you can have a romantic relationship without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:47 PM
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that's fair, that's what's being discussed above essentially in the original post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:33 PM
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if you're gonna blow past any connection with women other than sex, then dont bitch if you're lonely, that's really it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:32 PM
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if you're gonna blow past any connection with women other than sex, then dont bitch if you're lonely, that's really it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:32 PM
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right, but the acknowledgement and visibility of homosexuality in itself could at least plausibly have resulted in heterosexual men feeling the need to differentiate their behavior and while, yes, liberal male friends can have closer relationships, a lot of it can also be performative virtue signaling - not saying its entirely that or that that's how all do it, but, there is at least a slice of it all in all, i do think that differentiation from homosexuality is a major motivation behind this ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:57 PM
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you can't have a relationship without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:53 PM
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if women are that enraging because they're that impossible, then what's wrong with a roommate setup and, well, lowering your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:28 PM
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honest question - why red pill if sexlessness alone is better than sexlessness together? in other words, seems like you could get a woman, but only if she's up to your standards? which...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:23 PM
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is she still physically attracted to you at all in this hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:21 PM
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love without sex obviously i can touch myself for sex i can't touch myself for companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:12 PM
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so it's a dating strategy that doesn't work? like there have been forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:18 PM
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I've simply never seen any correlation between "nice guys" and niceness compared to any other guy not that they are never nice though but it isn't some plotting on their part, it's just how it is plenty of "Chads" are perfectly nice people, if anything, they're nicer because they lack the grievances
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:15 PM
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yes, i covered in a different reply - male bonding seems highly associated with more socially conservative societies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:10 PM
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y'know, the more i see it, the more obvious it becomes that red pill (crimson?) is just begging for male affirmative action/DEI/welfare smothered in screaming "masculinity" changing policy to the past is no less "nanny state" than anything else you guys need to pick a lane - either nut up and deal with it or "be a victim" and accept that you are doing that because the yearning for the past and bitching about birth rates and singlehood is the exact opposite of stoic traditional masculinity it's v…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:04 PM
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IDK what we're really pondering in the big picture though close male bonding seems much more common in socially conservative times and places, as you pointed out you can even see this in Afghanistan, or just with the trump administration frankly men seem to bond most in situations where it's basically just them - and honestly? yeah. in my personal experience, that tracks. men are looser, don't hold back, and can basically test drive any jokes, games, adventures, dipshittery, etc. i, for one, wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:08 PM
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all of that is true from the relationship side but, also, how many male platonic friends do you have? i think women likely have no greater number of them platonic friendships entirely, for whatever reason, don't seem to root as deep with men, generally speaking we'll admire each other from afar - celebrities, influencers, philosophers, bands, actors, athletes, etc. but not close up to be painfully honest, ai chatbots probably have a better shot at improving the "male loneliness epidemic" than sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:41 AM
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where did i say i was
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:09 AM
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the issue is that ignoring the different problems women and men face to different extents turns wanting equality into "what about me" over everything instead of just prioritizing the shit that hurts your gender worse while listening to the other about the stuff they hurt from most (p.s. for example, I've had a knife held to my throat before and I've dealt with providership pressure - providership pressure is worse, certainly over time)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:09 PM
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Western men aren't cowardly we just don't see same sex friendships as integral as women do and that's the rub - women have other outlets for connection, so single isn't pure loneliness it's not a matter of sheepishly "bowing at women's feet". it's a matter of men simply not seeing same sex friendships as closely as women do. and I'm at fault, shamelessly, and don't want to change it, to be brutally honest
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:16 PM
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i have no idea how asking THIS same question on Reddit as part of your daily morning routine fulfills whatever his fantasy is tho truly an interesting brain scan here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:49 PM
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"I can hate an individual man yet still care about men overall" is an absurdly simple reply there's no dodging there, you're just being breathtakingly stupid if you can't grasp it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:07 PM
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no lol, u have to have balance pushing in both directions to meet in harmony quite an easy thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 PM
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you can steepen or flatten any hierarchy simple
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:56 PM
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you do realize that pure hierarchy is not some fact of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:22 PM
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Then why keep it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:12 PM
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thanks, because i think it's more true than people let out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:25 AM
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lol but even there! regardless of whether it's something that's their fault, you STILL can't make yourself care what i pick up on is that a ton of women desperately want to say: "i really just don't give a shit about you, and i cant force myself" to all of these men because honestly? that would be the real healing part - it's settled; there would be nothing left to read on this page it would have to turn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:13 AM
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🙄 can you explain to me how felon drug dealers and hypergamy/gigaChad/top 20 percent of men - that all fits together in some coherent way at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:45 AM
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But incels actually identify themselves as left leaning overall Here Here And that kind of thinking evades: Women's advancements HAVE come at men's expense AND women have no need to apologize or fix it - nor should they ever give up those gains bc they result in men being more unhappy. it's actually best if women would say "i dont give a shit, that's men's problem" about all this. because, frankly, you shouldn't and it is men's problem to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:42 AM
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so it all boils down to being an asshole and you don't have to do anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:28 AM
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it's more... providership: men = women sex appeal: men < women male pinup calendars just haven't increased in proportion to women's income so we'll react by femboy-ing to the left OR get-back-in-the-kitchen politics to the right but both are the same grasping at feeling like we've got equal worth (though "oppression Olympics" is surely not absent)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:28 PM
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i guess I'm just confused - are they hypergamying with top 20 percent Chad or are they falling for felon drug dealers? which one am i aspiring to be here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:39 PM
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are the drug dealers in the room with us pls lmk 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:06 PM
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where does it say they made more before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:07 PM
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you would have universal welfare programs that would apply equally, i do agree you would not see things that specifically benefit women - not nearly to the same extent again, as for the wage gap thing, look it up married men lap everyone else what I'm getting at there is that there's something different going on with providership - whether that's something which commands higher pay by way of mere social norms or leads men to longer working hours/harder work regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:56 PM
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men would be at least as reliant on those things, trajectory thus far is showing so - due to the psychological distress of loneliness that exceeds women's when single and the lack of purpose that hard work and going for awful jobs is pointless without somebody to provide for - women or children (probably would see a significant increase in single dads by choice - surrogacy or however the fuck that whole deal works) if you look at the gender wage gap, for instance, its entirely a byproduct of mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:45 PM
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this shit's just a game of 20 questions - anxious men prodding at women's empathy - let's find out if you can see our jealousy over how hot women's bodies are because there's providership and sexiness women climbed the ladder financially, men can't with sex appeal we want our bodies to be equally yummy, otherwise we're left with "what's the point of men now?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:33 PM
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basically every post I'm seeing lately by you guys sounds like "i wish my body was as sexy as women's" why not just say that instead of smothering it in social commentary and ridiculous takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:07 PM
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thx i just don't see how its sustainable for humanity to be split in half one thing if there's a subculture of 5 percent that opts out and leaves the other 95 percent, but half and half? on the most basic of biological dynamics? doesn't mean ZERO newfound, long term independence of the opposite sex in some ways - likely for women because it's a steeper climb for men, nurture or nature regardless... but THIS much hatred and disconnection? how can it last? you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:31 PM
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right now "i was supposed to be better than you and provide for/protect you - but I'm not and ive got no idea how to be worthwhile anymore" is the underlying headspace many men are in, papered over by aggrieved rage though it is eventually, both halves of the population being disconnected so deeply that the basic biological inclination to reproduce/fuck isn't enough to even live in the same world will be unbearable (think back to your childhood - at one point, nobody cared whether their best fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:59 PM
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assuming this trend just continues - not at all unlikely - the biggest tragedy won't be gendered nor specific to relationship status and whether or not people have kids it'll be that this is but one of many signs that human connection between two entire halves of the population is completely severed so manosphere gets it wrong in both focus and who will be more miserable - it'll be men, by far, no matter how you slice it but it's not like there's nothing to mourn about the human race either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:24 PM
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(dude, I'm ALSO a straight guy WITH OCD lol OCD does not make you type all that out and hit send) if this is your insecurity, figure out the kind of things women do find physically attractive in men - you can find a lot of research on it, can be fascinating - and go from there better yet, ask women "what sorts of things do you find visually attractive in men" instead of trying to pigeonhole them into "you're all lying and none of you are actually straight" you'll get plenty of varying answers bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:12 PM
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people want what they don't get a lot of men dream of being able to just magnetically attract women on sight because otherwise all that can be attractive about you requires constant work, forever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:28 PM
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why is a low birth rate something to fix the only ones telling you this are billionaires, do you think they have the same motive? they're telling you it's a problem because they want a higher labor supply that has to deal with greater abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:12 PM
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i think most women are focused more on behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:01 AM
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more that women were mocked as the inherently weaker sex for many things that men are... eh.... just as prone to you can even add manosphere shit as a weird multilevel marketing pyramid scheme like herbalife driving a dodge charger
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:47 AM
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i genuinely think most of the change is about money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:39 AM
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IDK if you agree but that's my thought
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:36 AM
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anorexia > looksmaxxing slut shaming > simps/beta males dumb blondes > college grads are 2/3 women purity culture > red pill gold diggers > cougars probably a lot more parallels
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:33 AM
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Good thing? yeah. liberalization of harmless shit is almost always good but i can guarantee you a chunk of this is gold digging; as it is older men/younger women (p.s. we are kinda living in an embarrassing reversal of early 2000s "gender culture" that nobody wants to talk about...)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:46 AM
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fair, i just like poking holes in stupid points and there's plenty in this subreddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:17 PM
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probably but its not even a good fetish one in terms of basic logic like whatever motive you're coming at a thing from, your point is either sound or it isn't and this one is just REALLY stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:09 PM
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i mean, so many straight men are into pegging - how does that work? and that's an actual rubber dick clapping ur cheeks irl not just something on a screen I don't think anybody has a claim on "my sexual orientation makes more logical sense"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:21 PM
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link your stats if so, sure fwiw, yeah, children and babies are a different story because women and men are both going to be many times stronger for children, both men and women have a major responsibility to contain their anger for that same reason
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:33 PM
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yes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:17 PM
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yes? lol some women do those things too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:11 PM
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i said "almost always", did you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:48 PM
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hence "almost always" do words trigger you? how about 'usually'?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:33 PM
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yup, and in the age of the apps, there's always someone better, whereas real life is compromise; just two people choosing each other and working together on building a relationship even though better is always going to be out there no matter what and who you're with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:06 PM
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when did i say that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:57 PM
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okay, "any group of mostly men"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:04 PM
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if all you take from it is bland self improvement advice like go to the gym, stand up for yourself, learn social skills, whatever the fuck... of course it'll help if you get into the "i hate women" part, it's going to make you miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:27 PM
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those are actually two different statements... "not all men" and "not all men but always a man" are just not the same thing "not all men" overlooks the difference in the stats, "not all men, but always a man" is an overstatement that also acknowledges the big probability gap the most accurate statement would be something like: "not all men, but almost always a man" when it comes to damaging/traumatizing aggressive behaviors like domestic violence and rape and so on - with the added nuance that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:40 PM
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okay so then you're against patriarchy? what would you replace it with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:12 PM
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i think this is one of those things that's entirely dependent on how quickly you grow out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:04 PM
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I'm sorry, but who the fuck are these two? It's evidence of nothing if you're going with two politicians in Germany that nobody's ever heard of and have never won anything big go to a locker room or a bar or an old boys club job around a group of men and randomly start chatting up all the dudes there about how much of a feminist you are, then go to the same sort of places and talk shit about women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:56 AM
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because most people aren't that great lol maybe expectations is a better word just that if standards are higher than what's around, you'll probably not find anybody and same for men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:46 AM
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mhm gotta be completely honest - these gen z dudes, man "i hate women! why wont they fuck me?!" "lemme go vote for Elon's tickets to Mars brb" "I'm an alpha male, i need a strong male role model to show me how to live every step of my life, need daddy pls!" just... fuckin embarrassing to see
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:58 AM
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ok, one uncited anecdote? wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:10 AM
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hold up - half of all likes go to 15 percent of men, half of all likes go to 25% of women??? that's a pretty surprising stat because that is not much of a gap at all compared to the 80/20 refrain
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:41 PM
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i personally find neither side of this reasonable i think everybody needs to lower their standards by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:32 PM
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you can reject whoever you want for any and no reason at all that's life and freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:29 PM
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what if they just... agree with it? how do you just... decide not to? you've never agreed with any individual person that you find mean? a lot of men actually do agree with feminism - (though you have a totally valid point about the "male guilt" aspect to it that i think should be addressed within it all) all that said, your premise of "men only ever support feminism as some strategic martyrdom" is off. beyond narrow left wing environments, it's more "politically incorrect" for a man to be a fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:10 PM
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your description is of a person with a yuge ego who likely thinks highly of himself about everything he does the kind of men who do become good fathers leave the question open, often asking it internally - "did I fuck this up?" "when I got mad, was I too loud and was it scary? was it mundane enough that we've moved on already? or is this a 5 minute "yeah, i fucked up and i see it, you're not crazy, and I'm sorry"? " im going to die someday, am i spending my time wisely?" "many dads have died lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:22 PM
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i mean, "for under 30s, 21% of women have negative views of men, 7% of men have negative views of women"... makes sense? look, we had a dude saying "grab 'em by the pussy, you can do anything" and two days later his ass was US president. then he won again even after being a yuge fuck up the first time! we've got this entire manosphere thing where the men there aren't self aware enough to realize that the fear they're stoking in the way they're discussing dating and sex and whatever is the actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:36 AM
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what is the source for this statistic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:45 PM
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the only thing women are afraid of is men because an angry person that's twice their strength can kill them they're looking over their shoulder constantly because of this and red pill/manosphere ideologies in the ether only enhance this the only way you fix dating is to stop scaring them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:38 PM
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"epidemics" of anything are not personal yeah sure, say that shit to an individual person and you'll be right, as always, that they can solve their things by... solving them? none of that is groundbreaking advice so much as obvious and none of it can fix something going on around millions of people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:38 PM
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i mean, no. epidemics are broader issues that are never fixed with "hey everyone, just don't be fat neckbeards!" on a personal level, yeah sure, get off your ass if you want better is basically the only advice for everything but thinking that is going to fix obesity or loneliness is like taking a shit in the ocean to try and make it smell like you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:08 AM
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nobody is knowingly dating across political lines these days it's probably a mutual feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:29 PM
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wdym that a lot of guys just aren't attractive to any woman at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:16 PM
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SOME of the women saying this are though, SOME aren't. You're saying multiple times that women are all individuals and so on, true! But that also means that the "type of women" who are saying or not saying this is not some sort of rule, either way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:11 PM
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it shows that men who are losers resort to scaring people it's always the same move - if you've got nothing else, make people afraid and they'll give you a lot just to make you go away
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:37 PM
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for you too, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:07 PM
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what interests? men have extremely divergent ones which is why the take by either red pill (aspirationally) or feminism (apocalyptically) of "men are one step away from banding together and taking all the power" makes zero sense Do men honestly want to go back to a time of black lung disease and trench warfare? are there not many men who would hate living under your ideal scenario? methinks that the direction towards modern life is generally a whole of society agreement that's plucked a bit apar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:05 PM
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how's that any less true for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:58 PM
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everything in life is fragile and easy to lose democracy, authoritarianism, freedom, feminism, Taliban, traditionalism, Gilead, modern society, what jobs are most needed, the global economy, borders, governments, patriotism, monarchies, religion, laws, social contracts, hierarchies, whatever your axe to grind with feminism is blinding you to a basic collective reality about humans
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:31 PM
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comings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:24 PM
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yeah okay - men also constantly say they have lower standards what I'm reading between the lines sounds like you're shutting down bc it's hard to think "men may never meet womens expectations these days since they'll be willing to settle faster for an AI relationship - and in fact, the more ai advances, the less the effort will be worth it" "good enough" likely hits men faster even if they want sex and relationships more in general
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:09 PM
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i mean that's essentially the core of the argument you're making - that ai will never validate men and i don't think that's true ai may get good enough to fake validation that men see the effort expected in a human relationship to not be worth doing i do think the men here throw out "once we get sex robots, you're useless" as a way of spiting women and women understandably react to that at the end of the day though, even if ai completely replaced romantic relationships for men, that wouldn't mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:53 PM
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but the entire topic is his argument and if you really stop and think about it, how many women go around saying they're not judgemental? literally every criticism of men here is ultimately a judgement - they literally do that right in front of you whether they're fair about it is a matter you can argue, but I've literally never seen women say they aren't judgemental, just that they merely won't say they are - which is extremely mundane human behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:42 PM
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what's that got to do with anything "women lie" has no bearing either way on the issue at hand OP is saying that he doesn't give a chance to women who don't meet his standard and that women don't give him a chance when he doesn't meet theirs women can be lying their asses off every time and it doesn't make his argument any better
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:28 PM
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i think AI has great potential as a stepping stone and solution to male desperation and reducing desperation solves a significant part of current unattractiveness in men - and levels the playing field so men say no and make relationships actually a fun game again but it isn't an end substitute for human relationships and may create significantly more problems if/when people spiral into a rabbithole with it and have unrealistic views of how one sided it's reasonable for a relationship to be that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:20 PM
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i think the premise that men being validated is exclusively a sex thing is wrong that may play a big part, but emotional/personality/personal issues, etc. being validated is not this pointless thing for people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:14 PM
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someone that genuinely cares about you and who you genuinely care about - not just a matter of one or both fucking because sexy but nothing more i think... women hate men more deeply than it's acceptable for you to let on, men love women more deeply than its acceptable for us to let on its easy to talk about sex and objectify, harder to talk love and loneliness doesn't mean men suddenly are nicer and more loving and women are more hateful either just that it's probably weird to think of being an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:07 PM
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"I don't like women if they don't meet my standards. Women don't like me if I don't meet theirs. Therefore, women are eugenically weeding me out from the gene pool." lmao wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:27 PM
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if somebody is an asshole and insecure about their dick size, people are going to make fun of it and most won't actually give a fuck about it themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:53 PM
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people make fun of people who turn out to be pieces of shit - the most common way they do so is by poking at that person's perceived shortcomings welcome to the world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:58 AM
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having children out of wedlock used to be social suicide and a lot of marriages happened young and quick to get to the sex. I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different with this You'd just be stuck married to the same guy, generally doing the same shit they do now but at least you can leave
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:59 AM
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blue pill doesn't claim to "want" anything just for people to not be wrongly seen as defective if they don't abide by traditional gender roles you can be fuckin John Wayne or a trad wife and be blue pill. The point is just that traditional roles aren't a natural default that all of humanity is bound to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:08 AM
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yup, it'll always be something and there's several older men I've heard who've said of their ex wives "the best thing she ever did for me was divorce me" lol relationships and marriages can be like that, I'm sure just as many women feel the equivalent about their male exes there is no utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:35 AM
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i would, broader experiences provide wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:37 PM
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that's not an experience so much as a chosen action or reaction though going through the other genders experience doesn't mean you have to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:36 PM
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if that's the case then why aren't such people nearly as enraged with their lives or, if they are angry, so much better at controlling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:16 PM
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correct, the only issue with your take is how hysterical and threatening and reactive men are being the other way around, if we're being completely honest here scaring women because there's a mismatch in standards that's lonely and truly painful is what's going on and that's not morally right, even though the pain is real marriage should come with the possibility of divorce, men and women should come with the possibility of forever alone and mutual contempt, etc. connection and love can't exist …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:13 PM
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women are allowed to have as high standards as they'd like, have hypocritical ones, or even cartoonishly ridiculous ones like needing a billionaire in order to justify dating someone if you want someone, guess what? you have to meet that person's standards and if men have way lower standards, then that's how it goes it's a valid gripe but life isn't fair and women aren't obligated to make it so - nor are men obligated to give a shit and even bother trying - accept it and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:56 PM
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"i hate women, why wont they date me?* is hilariously stupid dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:43 PM
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they smell unacknowledged manipulation from the point of simps and that's often true but from a machiavellian perspective, simping does work better because at least that form of manipulation gives women something out of it whereas red pill is always cartoonishly wrong about outcomes, even if they can smell rats correctly sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:53 PM
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met my wife in 2016, married in 2019. that odds of success drop doesn't mean the advice suddenly becomes invalid generally doing what has always worked still gives you the best chance of success even if it's less of one same for a boomer saying "work hard" - yeah, sure, it's absolutely less successful than it used to be but it's still your best chance in a shittier circumstance the problem is the annoying assumption that it'll work out just as easily whether the juice is worth the squeeze in suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:15 PM
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there's much of this i agree with, however, "kiss ass masculinity", (positive masculinity) is better than "manosphere masculinity" from a raw numbers perspective. flattery gets you everywhere in this life plus women are more attracted to masculinity so... feminism does advocate for women and only men when the issues align. Red Pill is right that masculinityis better from a chance angle. men can be feminine Clinging to the approval of women is half the problem. stop giving a fuck and you actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:38 PM
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okay, let me rephrase if being married for 15 years makes one unqualified to speak on dating advice, who would be qualified?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:36 PM
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you were replying to the commenter above, saying "i don't understand why everyone is triggered by men wanting options" to the example of "i want to just fuck everyone in town and have that be empowerment" nobody is against men being empowered to have the option to choose not to be in a relationship or be pickier they're against the ludicrous notion of "i should be able to fuck everyone in town, that's men's empowerment" in other words, what you are using as your example of empowerment makes all …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:34 PM
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You are just now finding out that you can do everything in life and it still might not work out? were you born yesterday? women are free to just not do any of that shit for any or no reason at all. you're also free to not do anything they want from you. the most red pill point i ever come to is "men should do more is no more true than saying women should do less" but fuming that men don't meet higher standards OR that women don't accept lower ones is to not accept a situation for what it is if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:22 PM
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"I want to marry 20 rich men and take hslf their shit in a divorce a month later each time, there's my life goal" is basically the male equivalent of what people hear from all that if you're simply wanting empowerment in ways that cut against expectations, that's a lot different then "I'm jealous specifically of the people who can manipulate their way to sleeping with a thousand women". most people throughout history had "I want to fall in love with someone i enjoy being around" somewhere in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:04 PM
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then who is qualified? because i don't think podcasters are either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:58 AM
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that's certainly what they are hoping to keep up with and that's stupid as fuck "I'm clearly not in the top 20 percent, I'm going to compete with those people and I'll only like my life if i beat them" great idea! fwiw, i think the entitlement is them forever needing something to bitch about, that they'll never compete with the absolute hottest and best gives them an endless supply easier than accepting that normal success is closer than they want it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:23 AM
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I'm not following, are you saying you want to fuck a big dick stud?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:13 AM
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losermaxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:57 AM
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they're std petri dishes that hate their lives because nothing will ever be enough is that aspirational somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:56 AM
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i guess i just don't even know why anybody would give a shit once they reach an average number of sex partners, 7 seems fine you've had a sampling of the options, there's no significant fomo, you can be content at that stage, in the boning realm I've had about 7 or so myself i dont see the people who are having sex with 300 different partners as more successful so much as STD petri dishes with diminishing returns
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:53 AM
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im pitymaxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:45 AM
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how do you learn to accept singlehood by playing a game that you can only win by having control over you dating life? that game is doomed to failure itself because it's still buillding a sense of fulfillment around dating if you want to play a better one, figure out how to fulfill yourself holistically; regardless of whether this or that fulfillment involves dating or not dont avoid fulfillment from dating, don't ignore fulfilment outside of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:42 AM
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did the marriage fulfill you? does your life now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:36 AM
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okay so the "game" is whatever you want it to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:24 AM
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i agree with the first part but not really the second i think it's less of them thinking they're entitled to xyz and more them having no real understanding about how the real world works there aren't many people fucking every hot person they see and that's not a goal anybody has unsuccessful single virgin men paint a picture of life on the other side of that as simply very different than what it actually is there just aren't people running through a million sex partners every night most "chads a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:19 AM
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if fulfillment doesn't win you the game, you're outright choosing to play a game where the house always wins
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:06 AM
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you did lol, if not in so many words if the happily married for 15 to 30 years crew chimes in, they're probably most worth listening to unless you want to just chase misery in order to ensure you'll have a neverending carousel of things to complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:00 AM
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idk what game you're trying to win but i wouldn't put a happily-married-for-15-years dude in the loser category lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:55 AM
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that's a lot of vague generalized grievances dude it would be difficult to argue this, for or against and "all you want is sex", at least if you're aiming that at men generally, is simply false, to say nothing of a hurtful generalization. or at least an unhelpful one if you don't give a shit about hurt feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:46 AM
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i would pushback on the implication that wanting to be gorgeous is insane everyone wants to feel more attractive than not but doing crystal meth and going full archaeologist on your face with a fuckin hammer is insane most sane people would be very happy with above average looks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:35 AM
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if the things im normally doing even though i hate them are seen and appreciated rather than assumed none of us have some "work hard" gene or obligation to do shit if someone is, they're choosing to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:58 AM
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okay most people sure as fuck aren't doing basic social and personal maintenance, have you seen society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:10 AM
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much more engagement too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:06 AM
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sounds unironically like a balanced relationship lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:05 AM
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it ain't sex, porn and interactive sex games and sex toys, and so on have existed forever imo, its just jealousy that women are less desperate for companionship and hope that ai could provide enough for men to be just as selective
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:56 PM
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everyone wants to have a second way to matter if the first one doesn't work out, and it's incredibly reasonable to want that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:42 PM
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more that you just look around and see what everyone else is doing; what men are choosing to do that gives them social desirability not so much "as a man, you need to protect and provide" explicitly, though that can happen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:34 PM
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it's not a real problem to be an afterthought in life? does a wnba player have the same ceiling as an NBA one? a female ceo the same as a male one? is the ceiling for what women can accomplish anywhere close to what men can? probably difficult to imagine for us because its hard to conceptualize an opposite problem, doesn't mean it isn't real and painful though and how do you define "seeing someone as a human being"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:07 PM
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no, not parents, certainly not explicitly or exclusively more the implication in the ether it goes something like "do whatever makes you miserable but pays best - highly correlated - and you'll have earned a family where you'll be loved for something" in reality, it isn't really true anyway - you can be loved for many things and what you can do for other people has never mattered less for men if anything, the actual realistic vision of a happy daily life in some parallel universe is the painful …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:03 PM
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in an "i can fuck way more people right now if i want" way, sure women have it easier in a long term "wow, nobody gives a shit about what i do; i don't even have the potential to be more than a footnote" way, they have it pretty fucking hard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:49 PM
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that's my point, it doesnt "only apply to women" picking predictably bad outcomes is dumb as shit and yet people expect others to pity them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:45 PM
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it's not a hard fix, just a long term one parents should just steer their boys into cultivating childhood interests, much of male misery would be solved that way but that also requires accepting that it's too late for the current and previous generations which is the depressing part still, acceptance and acknowledgement makes it fine - it isn't like most women don't end up doing shit they hate to pay bills either i think there's just a crucial part of life in being able to explore cultivated pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:41 PM
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and he's a miserable shit because no amount of his pretty princess shtick can compete with how influential women's looks are men are jealous that women's looks can override their need to do anything and are trying to get that privilege women are jealous that what men do as individuals actually matters to people because nobody gives a shit what women accomplish in life or not, just their ass - so women want that privilege (oversimplifying but shortcutting for clarity here)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:36 PM
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🙄 my entire point, no normal ppl give a shit what you label that guy with - it's all red pill and he's the posterboy, whatever no true Scotsman argument you want as for clavicle, the obvious progression of this shit is just pathetic maybe he'll influence some but if your goal is to help men become powerful and masculine, beating the shit out of yourself with a hammer and doing meth to try making yourself hot is pathetic by that standard - you're that preoccupied with being a pretty princess? of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:10 PM
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IDK man, you guys are pumping up policies that harm everybody's interests - tax cuts for billionaires, shredded safety nets, aggressive divisions, etc. i hate your shit way more than whatever feminism does they can be annoying but at least they're voting for shit that's way more beneficial to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:16 PM
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idk man, i dont feel much sympathy when a clear trophy wife drops the husband and takes half his shit either most predictable thing ever
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:09 PM
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nice and seductive aren't mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:07 PM
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for "mainstream" examples, I've either never heard of yours or at least only heard of them in terms of red pill claims, sure, everybody admits that there's a dating recession, that women have higher standards for who they date because they can now, etc. that these things have increased significantly in prevalence but insofar as "everybody is going to jump red pill"... no, stylistically its cringe af - hoeflation? how do you guys say this shit with a straight face? and when most average people th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:57 PM
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women are trying to connect on the same part of the same topic and, yeah that's dumb because men get the shit end of the stick with the "available options" part of dating but I've never had to plan ahead in fear of violence or deal with the simple stat that most violence against women is done by their partners the "worry about being murdered and stuffed in a car trunk" part of dating probably isn't very fun either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:09 PM
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it's just upbringing you go 20 years thinking your life will only matter if you provide for a woman and kids? then you'll have nothing else to work for because you never really grew any of your interests when you younger - probably don't even remember them - and are boxed into whatever bland thing that pays some bills but makes you hate your life why would you bother with effort towards something you hate if it turns out that there's no result to motivate you its less about getting a woman in or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:54 PM
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ffs we do the same shit, in different ways and about different things. ultimately it just sounds like you ppl want women to lower the mask of the "women are wonderful" effect and be honest that they are selfish liars, which, of fucking course. they're human? happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:03 PM
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gotcha-ing a harrowing problem for women that isn't actually very significant to men's experiences, certainly relative to women, is just stupid and shoots your gender in the foot if you want to talk providership pressures and workload needed to "prove" your love? you have a much larger problem worth fixing for men and if you want to talk the incoherent voting patterns of BOTH sexes vs. their individual complaints?... i can do that one all fucking day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:47 PM
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if women hit men, yes, that's ALSO a problem but practically speaking, they're gonna do less damage 95 percent of the time and that's just reality unfair? sure. just life? yup relative damage matters
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:32 PM
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it really depends on HOW you're expressing emotions...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:13 PM
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the differences in difficulty for men and women is dwarfed many times over by the differences in wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:56 PM
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needing a male role model to behave correctly to the point that you otherwise live life stupidly or cruely is honestly pathetic yeah, there's some degree to which everyone looks to their elders for how to behave but if you're so lost by the time you reach adulthood that you still need an entire person to show you how to live life from the ground up, yeah, that's just pathetic not gonna sugarcoat it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:30 PM
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traditional gentleman gestures, like tophats, have gotten a lot more rare while i agree that some of these things are stupid, there are adjacent gestures that actually do perform a function - standing between a woman and a volatile acting man, standing in a way that cars can see you if she has to be in the road but difficult to see for a minute (dropped something, getting something out of the car, working on checking a tire, etc.), carrying something when her hands are full, whatever - tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:21 PM
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"please factor in my feelings because what your words are doing to my ears is traumatizing me"... an INSANE take on sexual assault, dude wow lmao this has to be bait
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:46 AM
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i could probably take 95 percent of women in a physical fighf but that's basically a controlled lab test of a question for example, I've had surgery and the nurse there could've just turned the morphine drip up, you could have a fight where you have a broken leg, any given woman could shoot you, push you off a cliff, run you over with a bus, etc. - in all probability, given childbirth logistics and hospital employee demographics, the first and last person you'll ever see in this life will be a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:36 AM
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worth a shot imo why would anybody be smitten with you if they knew nothing about you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:18 AM
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on sex, you're already saying that doubling your customer base makes business easier, which, duh you're taking the most extreme examples of men unhappy with their experiences and extrapolating that onto all a woman born into poverty who dies in childbirth has a very different life than a princess trophy wife with a decent husband - a billionaire techbro born into modern day wealth has a very different experience than a man drafted into WW2 born a man or woman? shit, i'd rather be born rich as fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:11 AM
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neither, it should be up to people to navigate choppy waters and figure out a new social contract between men and women rather than choreographed indoctrination or state force i do think there are indirect policy effects that could benefit it - studies show men are happiest in Scandinavian countries, for starters - But most of it is basically "focus policies on human wellbeing and dating will benefit because that's also part of wellbeing"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:53 AM
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lmao u linked the post? what, in summary, would YOU say his argument is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:19 PM
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they have what is new about that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:18 PM
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then what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:14 PM
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how
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:09 PM
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your entire claim is an opinion lol and yes, society is benefitted by people kissing ass all the time, welcome to life nothing is new about that nor exclusive to men's romantic and sexual relationships with women happens the other way around too if everybody said what they truly thought in every interaction and went all the way with it, nothing would function every day, i would love to tell 80 percent of the people i come across to go fuck themselves but that's stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:06 PM
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your argument is that red pill made men's anger listened to bc it pointed the finger at women my argument is that the rage and screaming made it listened to Red pill isn't successful bc it's an effective dating strategy nor does it have any new "forbidden knowledge" - the same bitching has happened about the same shit forever - the statistics wouldn't matter either if it was a quiet problem its successful in that its extremely good at getting attention because it scares people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:57 PM
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TIL that men have never before complained about or blamed women 🙄 men are socialized in a way that leaves us more emotionally vulnerable to singlehood than women but we paint over it with rage because admitting that we're "getting beat by a girl" or weaker in ANY way is a social death sentence - singlehood has increased, women have the means to be increasingly selective and are doing so because theyre fine single none of this would be a focus of anybody without the red pill rage though and that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:34 PM
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so men were always in pain but it only became a broader focus when red pill came along and screamed about it loudly and aggressively enough? which is exactly what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:59 PM
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is your argument that red pill allowed these guys' troubles to jump to the front of the line over everyone else's by scaring people?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:42 PM
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no, i used to like 7 years ago i know my mbti is infp though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:32 PM
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basically, felt like everything was a lie > i need to grow up and just deal > yes, everything always was a lie and i do need to live but no more than i have to, here comes emo again lucky to have made that full circle by my early thirties instead of an age 50 midlife crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:53 PM
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your entire post is about women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:49 PM
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your entire claim is that women hop on here and complain about them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:45 PM
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assholes and players are rarely covered either way most of their criticism is of romantically and socially unsuccessful men who turn their grievances into rage against women rather than either acceptance of the circumstance or effort towards changing it they don't even have to change anything if they don't want to, merely accept that not everybody is going to be into you and, yeah, you may end up forever alone That's just reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:42 PM
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masculine and feminine are general terms that are in the eye of the beholder and clinging to some precise definition to them is both fleeting and unfalsifiable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:33 PM
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there's an equally valid argument that pushing either or both partners towards more effort, rather than mutually making each other's lives simpler, is actually less loving
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:23 PM
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implied it but if neither work then what do you think does, if anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:20 PM
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nobody needs anybody to any greater or lesser degree loneliness is on par with cigarettes in terms of harm risk but that's a human thing and you can live a long life as a smoker, you're just stacking more odds against you but too, connection can come from a million different angles and relationships are just one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:20 PM
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if red pill advice actually worked it wouldn't be a neverending spiral
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:17 PM
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pretty accurate tbh more like if you dont like something about men's behavior, it comes off as double the criticism if you're not narrowing it down to the individual every criticism of men generally becomes personalized rather than zeroing in on what you actually despise about that particular one at that juncture, you're actually able to narrow it down and at least be on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:09 PM
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hippie elder emo combo tried "growing up", found my 17 year old self to be more correct about life than who i was trying to be - basically an updated version i gravitate towards those sorts of people or at least ones with gallows humor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:04 PM
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who glorifies step dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:01 PM
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I've never seen this reaction to this specific circumstance much its plenty prevalent and often projection or at least no more true between sexes and you can argue that men are less able to handle 'the truth" but this isn't a very good example of that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:58 PM
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stop focusing on men then if you're the center of attention no matter what you do, it's actually a huge pain in the ass and you're going to personalize everything by mere habit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:55 PM
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