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DiscussionDisastrous_Agent9307/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:34 PM
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The most common phrase I've heard to use is "the story I'm telling myself when you do (insert action) is". If OP is talking about asserting boundaries, much like you said it is an I statement. "I need to be in a relationship where (insert an action that does or doesn't happen). If that doesn't happen I will re-evaluate things".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:53 PM
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Yes. I do it all the time and have done so for men I'm romantically linked with and men I am not romantically linked with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:42 PM
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Your comparison between marriage a roommate still isn't accurate. My husband would have to blow up his finances and life to leave (and vice versa). We co-own it all. We're also working towards mutual financial goals and SHARING ALL expenses. Roomies don't share ALL expenses, they share a limited few. The financial discussion and intimacy is wildly different. And it leads to a different emotional closeness. You can say men need to be closer to their friends are choosing not to without reducing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:15 PM
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Yes, they are. You just don't connect so you feel apparently like you're the only human valid here? Captain America is fighting first basically Hitler, then communism, and then the deep state. Along the way he grows and develops as a person in ways men can both aspire to and exhibit. Tony Stark's entire arc is about moving from being a self centered genius to someone who looks after and cares for others around him becoming a dad, and making the ultimate sacrifice to protect his family and the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:45 PM
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Dude, you admit not to knowing and yet you're still talking. Captain America Tony Stark Dr. Strange Thor Starlord Hawkeye Vision Buckey Boys and men are given plenty, I mean a stupid amount of cheerful, positive role models in their media. You just apparently have somehow not just lived under a rock since COVID, but easily for the past almost two decades of story telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:06 AM
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With love.... My feelings about men's monstrous side and meeting them with distrust, fear, and disgust was not caused by television nor movies. Art was imitating life on that one. If anything, what got and kept me in the game was art and movies portraying exactly the kind of man I eventually hoped to find (and eventually did). I also just plain can't buy men don't have good role models in the day and age of the Marvel Cinematic Universe alone. Then we can talk about Game of Thrones having many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:34 PM

I prefer to be asked and we can plan or he can, but I don't think it should be some huge plan....let's get coffee or pizza. Like nothing crazy here. Shouldn't need an itinerary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:13 PM
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For better and worse, all of dating is kind of like a samurai fight in which someone has to blink first. Due to many different realities from the biological to the social, men are almost inherently forced to blink first or it will be rare for them to even get to play the game so to speak. Problematically, we live in a culture and a time in which equality has been framed as equality of action and equality of outcome...and all gender norms have been villainized in this weird: everybody can be anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:07 PM
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Sorry she cheated. I hate that. Such weak person shit. I get what you're saying. In my experience a focus on fairness is what will doom you. And I get that feeling runs deep. Not taking that away. We've all felt that and all will again. But I do think there is an immense amount of wisdom in the idea love holds no record of wrongs and simply rejoices in the truth and is ever hopeful. And as best I can tell, the thing that really makes people truly be able to do that and endure all the inequalitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:54 AM
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I can agree all things in moderation even magic. I myself skipped my big Thanksgiving traditions this year to finish school without setting the house and possibly my father in law on fire. And leaving the dishes once in awhile isn't so bad. Although. I'm not known for my commitment to the empty sink in the first place. I don't know your marriage, dude. My suspicion is that a lot of your streamlining and just let it be was well intentioned and completely loving and genuine, but was received as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:48 AM
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Did I mention I paid for more than half...at my job. Where I work. Like most women. You cannot be serious on this one, sir. I bought my wardollies at fifteen. With my money. That I earned. From my job that I worked 39 hours a week. Do none of the women you know work ever? Second question: are most of the women you know golddigers or are they prostitutes because you know that's a job right? Tolerating a man. Yeah, she has to determine what she needs and stay in your good graces to get it. Typical…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:42 AM
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Again, I don't know if it's just like you can't see it because it's such an inbuilt gender thing: Making the first move is not throwing yourself on the rocks. It's not a foolish thing. It's a gamble with the loss being relatively zero other than a wounded pride and the gains being relative paradise. And you don't end up worse than you started because there is gain in such a gamble in the form of practiced skill. And again, I must reiterate: women despise when men see them as worthy of what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:39 AM

For ALL: OP is talking about how if he doesn't lie to women about his long term intentions they won't have sex with him. He wants to pump and dump them. When women criticize him for this evil behavior (nag), he asks them for a way to get casual sex ethically. It hasn't worked so he just keeps being evil. For OP: dude, fix your heart. Seriously. I hope people keep nagging you about being evil. This is just purely fucked up. I hope a woman gets pregnant and keeps it and makes you pay for the baby.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:19 PM
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It really isn't. It's just a perspective that men hate. Women's strategy boils down to "if I exist within a community that contains men eventually one will catch my eye and then I'll put myself in proximity to him and show I'm interested until he figures it out and asks me out". They are not banking on men throwing themselves on the rocks. They aren't banking on men feeling some desperate uncontained impossible to control call to possess that woman. In fact, in all of our stories, men that feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:11 PM
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As well you should. This is why when we have the SAHM argument where men don't wanna do childcare or help around the home women tend to riot under the "you couldn't afford these separate jobs" banner. On the birthdays/holidays thing alone you are above 99% of men. Like with love, good job. Amazing. I will say that some of what you describe involving the nanny isn't necessarily women making their lives harder so much as (I think correctly) believing their children should be fully raised by them..…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:57 PM
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A day I had to plan how to pay for well in advance and which many people besides myself wanted. It takes a lot of planning to throw a one day party. It does not take a lot of planning to afford wardollies (done it when I was 15 and 15 year old me wasn't peak planner material) and finding time for any hobby is pretty easy if you're a 9-5 drone like most folks. Again, I appreciate the bank roll (breadwinner), but it doesn't take planning to go to work every day and then come home. It takes a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:38 PM
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Hey, fair enough. I was on the other end: the parents that stayed together with resentment and joylessness. It's not a super better environment, just a different hell to know your parents have reached apathy which eventually decays into hatred for each other, but they're together for the kids. Just leads to guilt. I think the grass is brown on both sides and the only real win is stable infatuation as I've suggested. I don't think your parents were chasing stable infatuation, I think they wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:36 PM
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The link went nowhere. I think men do emotional labor...I didn't think there were examples here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:31 PM
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Didn't say they don't care what men think. I said the majority of their style choices are not informed by thinking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:30 PM
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Those standards have to do with plastic surgery and somehow both dressing modestly and like a slut at the same time. They can complain, I think it has been good they did, but it doesn't have much to do with fashion itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:25 PM
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Sounds more like a bank roller than a planner. A planner would have said cut it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:24 PM
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Banned from incels.co
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:07 PM
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At least for me and everyone I know that is happy: The infatuation never wears off. Companion love is in addition to that feeling which persists. It isn't an effort to continue to impress and dote on my man. I think that's how it should be. I think the rest of what you've said is an attempt to intellectualize away from the fact that while love is a daily choice and action, it should not be a difficult one because of the romance and infatuation. If all that is keeping you in it is some sort of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:49 PM
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The hive never fails, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:38 PM
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As a fellow wardollier, I did. I applaud your extra efforts for 3d printing things and standing at a table with the red bull in one hand and the measuring tape in the other...but I can't say I've ever met someone with this at the top of their planning resume I trusted to make the Chinese Order for the game shop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:27 PM
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Courtship isn't performing emotional labor for women. It's performing it for yourself. If a man didn't court me first, I'd figure out how to get his attention and make something happen because I'd really want it. When women talk about mankeeping, we're talking about remembering his Mama's birthday and buying her a gift and reminding him to text her. Do you think I get anything out of that series of labors and events? I like her, but she's not my mama.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:25 PM
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I love my husband deeply, but his job for our wedding was to get his suit along with his two groomsmen and then on day of he had to move the altar to the forest clearing. In just the catering and the people picking it up I out organized and aggressively pursued the outcome. Love him to death, but please with this men are the architects of society and planners thing. I know only one man who is a solid planner, and it was my boss. One in my whole life of knowing men. Playing wardollies isn't the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:20 PM
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It seems like you think people are these stagnant beings who are always some particular way. The reality is, cells are changing and so are we. I'll give you the gendered example you'll probably appreciate. I had a younger professor in college, great dude, completely the sort of guy any woman would be lucky to marry and any dude would be lucky to have as a friend. He married a lovely woman and had four children with her (catholics!) when they were young. When they were in their forties she had sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:10 PM
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A lot of women are dressing that way because its popular, stylish, comfortable, or how they want to look. Again, this is part of the "it's just in your head" issue. Men think this song is about them, in the majority of cases it just isn't. They don't think about you at all. Now is this all women? No. There are certainly femme fatales and women using their sexuality for gain. I'm not denying this woman exists as a minority, but it just isn't most or even close to half of women. It's about 5% of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:39 PM
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I think the problem with what you're saying is that a man or Leonardo Dicaprio are actively pursuing a dynamic which is imbalanced. It's not behind the rabbit, it is the rabbit. Women are not actively pursuing a situation in which they have this siren effect on men. Frankly, the overwhelming majority of women are actively attempting to avoid having a siren effect on men much to the dismay and disgust of men. It is quite literally in the head of men. Women can't stop doing something or take an ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:01 PM
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I think, it's reasonable to be seeking someone who is crazy about you. Lightning may strike, there's no use making the journey of life without someone who makes you want to dance like a dervish. How that reveals itself is another question, but, I can say my husband and I were both obviously crazy with and infatuated with each other almost immediately (still are honestly). We both had reservations and uncertainties about going for it...but the infatuation was as obvious as the plain on nose's fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:26 AM
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Love bombing only works if the person you're doing it to is broken in certain ways. Sounds like these women were not broken in those particular ways so they read your attempts as needy or desperate thus pulling away. I will tell you, it did not work on me after the first time because my own insecurity shattered the illusion from there on out. In order to be love bombed, you have to believe you could be worthy of that kind of attention....many many people do not believe this due to their own dama…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:20 AM

I don't think clarity would help unless you've got a magic wand that is going to make the rest of our entire lives be neat and orderly. The chaos of early dating is a good indication of and practice for your ability to deal with the chaos of life and communicate usefully. You want to remove all need for communication by just giving people scripts and protocols to rely on. It's not meant to be easy. It's not meant to be a theme park. For God's sakes World of War Craft has more life in it than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:10 AM
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I don't either honestly. I've never heard of cold approach working...not once. I have to believe it happens because of statistics...but it's pure theory to me...and I wouldn't expect the people it did work for weren't lookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:08 PM
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100% of course. I totally agree it's just plain healthy...but if you're not the most dazzling gem in the pile, this can really help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:07 PM
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This doesn't work with online or cold approach dating. This happens when you share communities and have a chance to see each other regularly. Otherwise, this just doesn't work because you're going on dates and leading a guy on. And the chances of this happening is rare...so you're just hurting the dude in about 95% of cases making him think something is working that isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:58 PM
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Not to be irritable, but why did you write a dialogue in which it is clear the woman would have an easy response: He would show he loves himself by taking care of himself, pushing himself to be better, and forgiving himself when he fails and he would express this love to others through words and ways of speaking that convey hey believes himself to be valuable and worthy of being treated with decency. I'm sorry you've noticed women apparently use words which are incredibly complex with a lot of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:04 PM
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I appreciate assertiveness and confidence in all people. I dislike assholishness in all people. I appreciate people who use their strength to help me. I simply additively find it hot when a man does it. I dislike all people who use their strength to hurt me. I simply find it even more off-putting and frightening when a man does it because of the implication of potential sexual violence. I don't see any of this as a dating preference unless you're sneering that I like to date good people who trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:00 PM

Let's put this a new way: How would you like a woman to respectfully reject you for being short, broke, or unable to do x / y? "No, thanks. I'm just not interested." "I'll pass, but have a great life." "No hablo ingles." Look, do I think some women are likely to be incredibly cruel in how they deliver this message? Absolutely. On the flip side, we're often accused of not being specific enough or giving feedback or letting men think they have a shot. You know what's awesome about the disrespect y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:53 PM

Things I discuss in my relationship I wouldn't dream of discussing with a friends. Not a complete list. Finances Where to live 3. How to live Pets 5. Child rearing How to deal with our families 7. Job/career goals Dreams Fears Keep in mind, by discuss I mean: seriously consider how that would shape a shared existence, consider compromising, seek compromise, and work towards a stated shared goal. Love my friends, but their opinion on my career choices or how to spend money...they can pipe down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:15 PM

I know men shorter than this and fairly average looking doing fine. Raise confident, empathetic, and emotionally regulated boys and they'll have the same shot to screw up romance as the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:08 PM
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Stop, this is so cute hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:40 AM

Disagreeability is good for inappropriate or unusual or flawed structures. When it's placed in a largely functional structure, it will push against it regardless which yields toxicity. More structures are functional than not problematically so you get men doing inappropriate stuff. Anything in the improper environment is going to be toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:49 PM

I do actually. The word may vary a little, but in a long distance scenario they're going to allude to he was far from you and uncertain and then you know how men can be with physical needs. But yeah, it is going to basically come down to they weren't certain where things were going and this other person was there physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:45 PM
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I mean, most of us do look more put together than our male counterparts. And statistically we're more self sacrificing, more charitable, and more likely to care for helpless and hurting... So yeah? Still have a lot of monsters in the mix, but, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:08 PM

I'm sorry that happened to you. I think there has been a loosening towards cheating from both genders, honestly. My reaction to your story was both feeling terribly bad for you and terribly unsurprised long distance ended in cheating (having been there myself and being chested on long distance). I think often our image of outrage at cheating is within marriages or relationships containing children...and just dating doesn't quite get the same shock and horror ( probably rightly). I don't think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:06 PM
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I don't disagree that dating for a chunk is a good idea. I'm saying he shouldn't be panicked by the concept of marrying you at year 2. Otherwise, I don't think year 3 and 4 are where he changes his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:41 PM

I've never seen that happen. I've seen dudes appropriately labeled as creeps for wanting a significantly younger woman. That's not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:40 PM

Finally a problem all of us can agree on. I feel your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:16 AM
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Girl, no. What you do is you do the things you want to do and that you would do if you saw your relationship escalating towards some pre-determined end game (apparently marriage). And you clearly communicate what that potential pre determined end game is with a clear point at which you expect this end game to come true and that if not you will be breaking up. And you make sure whatever this timeline is would not prevent you from achieving your life goals (marriage, children, etc.) And that you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:15 AM
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Research into male disagreeability and variability combined with an understanding that the number one predictor of toxic behaviors is poverty. More men in poverty + less likely to try to leave it due to disagreeability = more toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:21 PM
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I know, just using as a chance to clarify in case OP reads down why I'm disagreeing at all with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:48 PM
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I can accept that toxic is often used very broadly by both genders. That's sort of why I gave specific examples because unless you want to tell me the specific behavior that is toxic...like is your point both genders have lots of insufferable assholes? Cuz I'm with you...but demonstrably and scientifically...men will have marginally more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:35 PM
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Yeah, and like, the dude may have to blink first so to speak, but if she doesn't reciprocate when he does...might be time to keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:33 PM
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I think your struggle here is that you're describing somewhat different things. A stay at home mom (which is really the only way this is reasonable) should do a lot of the cooking and cleaning. Dad should come home and help with that and the childcare. Why? Cuz yeah, he'd still have to work if they broke up and kids are mutual. I realize this doesn't make for an autistically easy to divide thing, but it is actually what is fair. Stay at home womaning can include the man helping with stuff becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:59 PM
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I think a lot of their problem is not dealing with the context, just being honest. There's a hugely different context between someone you kind of know (warm approach) and strangers (dating apps/cold approach). It's at least mildly reasonable not to compete so hard for a girl you actually know. She's already somewhat decided she fancies you. Is it smart to impress her anyway? Yeah, and she should be trying to impress you. But for strangers, which is what you are even after you talked on a dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:48 PM
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I think a lot of my problem here, and I'm not entirely disagreeing...is that so much of what gets called toxic in women isn't really doing anything to anyone else. Or she's just generically crappy in a non-gendered way. Like the woman who is kind of tragic looking and only wants to date some drop dead gorgeous rich dude...there's no crime here. The woman who cheats, like yeah, agreed, awful. But that's not a gendered thing. Nor is just kind of being a crappy, lame, or generically selfish person.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:42 PM
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Agreed!!! Preach!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:26 PM
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I think the devil is in the details here and you know it if you look. Women's porn is typically well, not visual, it's erotica...so no one is being harmed in the making of these things. Men's porn can't even try to make that claim, the women are drugged, they're often trafficked, often underage, I mean it's almost as evil as it can get. In women's porn the man's pleasure, if only because it is written, is not a side note or a lie, it's just real (again, the beauty of writing). Men's porn let's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:10 PM
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I literally think OP just doesn't know men thirst trapping exists because their feed is unlikely to send them male thirst traps. But the idea most men are wearing penguin suits in 2026 this year of our lord is....well it's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:54 PM
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You're an adult when you carry your own weight, you're responsible for yourself, and you stop making excuses or looking to others to tell you who you are. You're correct many people never arrive here...many of them have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:23 AM
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The problem in all cases is relying on self reports. People are unreliable narrators and when I have a man telling me he's done everything perfectly, but nothing has worked and he's not had a truck run over his face... All I'm thinking is that he's not a reliable narrator of his own life and actions to himself, let alone to me. Because otherwise, it would have worked almost factually. And at that point all I'm left with is to say there must be something off putting about him...because there lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:59 AM

I'm sure anything under the sun has or will happen. Are you asking me if I've ever snapped over something small? No. It may have seemed that way to the man, but I can assure you it was simply the final straw. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither were those break ups. And I've never known other women to either, usually he was on thin ice from other bullshit behavior and that sunk his battle ship. Are there hot shitbags who often get away with more longer? Possibly, possibly it's also that they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:53 AM
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Not a you problem. You don't have to be near or please those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:10 AM
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No one is making anyone walk on egg shells. People have what they like and dislike. You having to meet what they like and not be what they do not like is not you walking on egg shells. Stop blaming your anxiety on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:02 PM
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So change how you talk to encourage that. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:48 PM
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My Little Pony Friendship is magic is right there, dawg. Why aren't myths and legends good enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:55 PM
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In my case, Man A never got sex and Man B did. I don't really get this time-based metric men seem so obsessed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:54 PM
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I have sex when I'm ready and he's ready. Turns out whatever boxes in my brain and heart that needed to be checked only happened with my husband. That threshold was never met in my other relationships and dates. I don't give a time period and I don't think most women do. And I never did casual so....yeah. I don't think most women do casual tbh. And the women who do aren't typically what I'd call consistent in how they practice dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:38 PM
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That sounds like a them problem. Either commit to not caring what people think or commit to caring. No one is making you walk on egg shells. Do the crime and do the time. Or don't do the crime. I've been out here pissing people off in person for 20 years. When I got tired of doing certain types of time, I stopped talking those ways. I'm not out here pretending I have to change how I talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:36 PM
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So part of what I'm saying is that it sort of doesn't matter if you in particular present as dangerous because the waters women are swimming on from girlhood are so dangerous your individual contribution not being will not change her psychological feeling towards men generically. I'm then suspecting that not being dangerous individually is actually received better by women particularly when young (this is why we like boy bands). As we age, our comfort level with some danger is likely to increase…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:33 PM

"I'd show you my dick if the situation was reversed"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:28 PM
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I mean, I'm sorry to hear you have mommy problems. That's terrible. I would suspect that's why you're hoping for it from your romantic prospects....but that's not healthy. Partners aren't meant to fix what parents broke. It's also sensible this is also why you see nagging about cleaning or whatever else as an inappropriate slave-like imposition...you've set up mommy as meant to be this loving nurturing force, but you don't even know what that actually looks like. Because I gotta be honest, it mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:14 PM
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Track him down, ask what they did, and bring a measuring tape. What. Could. Go. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:02 AM
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The equivalent of an advertisement on your you tube video paid for by your biology. You have to sit there rolling your eyes waiting to skip. But you can skip. You aren't an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:36 AM
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Not to you. To women, yes. Male nudity is inherently threatening to women at varying levels. Sometimes very high, sometimes very low. Rarely is it zero. I understand you don't feel that way or feel these things should be exclusive or easy to exclude. They're not for most of us ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:35 AM
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I honestly don't know. I think there's a lot of evidence that women are drawn to safer and more feminine presenting men especially when younger. And I think there's a lot of evidence of women trying to deal with the danger of men in an erotic format through a sort of softening of the edges. It's almost impossible for me to say because I cannot remember a time where men, their attraction, and therefore my own attraction didn't feel dangerous if that makes sense. So I don't know if I'm attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:16 AM
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I don't think you understood me. When I describe looking at naked men, I fear their attempts at possession of me. That would not contradict me suggesting I can look at someone and not want to possess them. I am not, and at no point suggested naked bodies were devoid of any meaning. Clearly. I find men's bodies threatening and women's bodies safe. Clearly I ascribe values to nude bodies. What I don't do with that, is feel required by nudity to act sexually or possessively. I fear men because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:13 AM
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This isn't difficult... Men = hot and dangerous Women = beautiful and safe. I feel no sexual attraction to women, but their bodies, forms, and beauty is pleasant to look at and represents zero threat to me even when scantily clad or outright nude. I am sexually attracted to men, but men are dangerous, their nude bodies or scantily clad bodies are still connected to a potential threat or demand. Even if I can somehow overlook the threat and go on pure appearances, women are just generally prettie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:54 AM
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This hurt me it was so funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:32 AM
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No, but I never was and now I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:31 AM
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I think it's genuinely accurate for some women who typically have had a great love story and it sort of ended prematurely or quite badly. For others, I think it's accurate compared to a bad relationship certainly. For a lot, they're just coping and let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:28 AM
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I don't think refusing to have sex in general is manipulative. The last thing I want when I'm upset with my husband is dick. It's just the reality of that situation. I have to feel connected to want sex. Being upset unplugs that connection. I can't speak to your relationship as well, but I can say it seems likely if you could look back with eyes unclouded, you would see there were problems before what seemed like an abrupt change, it may have felt sudden, but it seems doubtful it actually was. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:27 AM
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I cannot for a moment think you said this thinking it was useful. I'm so sorry. Happy Valentines!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:15 AM
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? Vaht? I meant being tall really just tends to mean taller than her by a good bit. So if she's 5'4 being 5'8 should be fine. You're only really in trouble if you're about the same or worse shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:14 AM
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I've never said it doesn't matter. I'm just saying you don't have to be six feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:34 PM
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Do tell how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:33 PM
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I didn't claim sex couldn't be used manipulatively...my claim is men choose to engage with this. Unless there's some sort of force or implied force, you can just nope out. It also isn't the primary way those things are felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:33 PM
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In their mind they're taking care of the poor and unfortunate l.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:31 PM
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I don't agree clearly. They don't have some pre programmed can't be broken path and choice and fight system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm with ya. It's a free choice that's generally self destructive and short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:29 PM
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I think that unlikely. There was a short king thing going around for a long time on lady instagram and it doesn't seem to have helped dudes any based on what I see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:29 PM
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I agree with you until you say it makes men slaves to women. They're choosing freely. They aren't devoid of free will. They aren't NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:15 PM
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My bank account and having chosen my own husband begs to differ. Your point about global elite while holding some level of accuracy doesn't supersede the daily freedom enjoyed. One can be free in certain ways and not in others. Two things can be true at once, dude. It is true men were mistreating women interpersonally and intimately. It's also true women stood by or greenlit the mistreatment of the underclass. I'm glad interpersonal mistreatment has been ended. The corporate oligarchy is up next…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:07 PM
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Not at that high and pervasive a level. This isn't wearing stupid shoes, we're talking about changing an entire way of life drastically and significantly. A conflict of values and dissonance is part of being human. I agree we shouldn't be doing that, I don't agree the desire for charity superseding values of safety and women's empowerment is a sign women cannot represent their best interests. It's a sign they can sacrifice them for a greater value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:04 PM
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Wait, you see someone nagging you to clean your space and act like an adult as not mother like......what kind of mother did you have because I would have said that's right in the center of mom behavior. To answer why I personally hate it. It makes me look at the man like: what the fuck do I need you for? And then it makes every romantic and sexual move gross and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:08 PM
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So is it dating apps or are you in like a really big place that's super duper crazy shallow weird like a Miami where everyone there is kind of trying to use plastic surgery and maxing credit cards to date some ridiculous 777 guy? Cuz we know dating apps don't work because they're designed not to more or less. And big cities have a reputation for ridiculous standards being combined with like wouldn't pee on you if you were on fire socialization. Like I've frequented NYC back when I was in univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:42 AM
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Dating since high school really isn't that unusual for anyone. But let's put this delicately...sure, I laugh now about old flames, failed dates, awkward this and that, friend zones gone belly up...and I'm now happily married so it all seems worth it. I don't as often talk about being sexually assaulted (except of course here where it comes up semi regularly when men doubt this happens that much). I don't as often talk about the number of men who tried to use me for sex and failed because your gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:33 AM

I'm going to say in about 95% of cases, my answer is just the Cardi B gif of her pointing at her eyes. Whether you believe it or not, we're just that different. Maybe you're only friends with people exactly like you, but I've always enjoyed an array of companionships with women not like me or who have wildly different taste in men that boggles my mind if they are more like me. It may help to remember a lot of us are to some extent seeking men with personalities like our fathers...and a lot of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:18 AM
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I'm also including a past history of women being forcibly married off or having no other option but to marry due to social norms...and also what you've just said. Thank you. I do agree there is still some small contingent against the sexual revolution of course...they just aren't in vogue just this minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:10 AM
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I know that's a popular and easy talking point for men today...I think until you're willing to deal with how miserable and trapped the wives of the age you lionize were...you're going to be lost in easy talking points. And I'm not talking about oh, they didn't own the newest shoes miserable. I'm talking being physically and emotionally abused and unable to leave because they had nothing, couldn't be employed and make enough to survive, and the legal systems were not here for them. I'm talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:08 AM
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I mean, I'm a little lost. I gotta ask how old are you and how old are the girls you're chasing? Cuz after that, I'm thinking you're either on dating apps or super tragic looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:03 AM
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I'm presuming accent if you're talking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:33 PM
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I know some Eastern European men have a tendency to struggle here because they're kind of seen as the armpit of Europe, have a tendency towards a specific brand of let's say misogynistic expectations of women and way of speaking that don't mesh well here, and given the war thing may be perceived as cowards on some level. They also from my limited experience have a habit of being like in their 40s and 50s and trying to date pretty young women, like 20 year olds. Not saying any of this fits you, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:06 PM
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I gotta ask....what's your country of birth? I don't think dating here in general is hell on earth, but I am aware that somewhat depends on your race or country of origin. I know Indian men (not being racist) are extremely undesirable here and most places statistically speaking. I also know a lot of foreigners who are not white struggle similarly for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:00 PM
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I mean, I don't get that sense, but I'm open to it. Ohhh oh oh, I getchu. I'm talking about people being forced to marry or pair up with one person very long term. That's not forced and it's not even really socially required anymore. No, it's only considered immoral if you have a committed partner. Otherwise, fucking around abounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:57 PM

I have explained to someone else the causation so you can go look for that. I do know what a fallacy is and given your tone, I'm not interested in speaking with you further because you aren't good faith. Happy Valentines.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:49 PM
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I don't think happiness is a useful metric for so many reasons. I also think it's funny to suggest women didn't toss it out when they were the one marching for those freedoms, sure, they needed some men to sign it into law, but the men did that knowing if they didn't they were going to have a real problem on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:48 PM
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I don't think you can call it correlation when not having enforced monogamy is causational to financial freedom which is causational to physical freedom which is typically causational to safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:47 PM
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I couldn't begin to know and I also don't think happiness is a very good metric by which to determine how someone should live their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:46 PM
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I think the proof is in the pudding dude: we don't have societally enforced monogamy right now....women are richer, more free, and safer than any other period in history. If enforced monogamy worked so well, women wouldn't have tossed it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:23 PM
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Much like Leslie says, I don't think monogamy is what gives unfortunate men a chance. It's typically either finances leading followed by social forces in a distant second place with monogamy being a small part of social forces and hardly the key player. Personally, I paired up with a man I love, that's attractive, a good provider, a good protector, and hilarious and fun and loyal. I can't say I needed him financially nor that I was particularly forced as my family and community are pretty welcom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:17 PM

Finally a right answer emerges. Don't girl boss, girl murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:09 PM
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Bang on what I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:07 AM
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Obviously it depends on the subject. There's some stuff I'm instantly working hard to pretend to care about. But most stuff, it's a light to high interest. I am genuinely curious about most things and I'm always of the belief everyone has a few great insights, interesting tidbits, and stories if I can pry it out of them or give them the space to feel comfortable sharing. And it's not about seeming pleasant...it's just trying to be decent even when it's hard...and yes, some people make it hard (t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:04 AM
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I think a lot of this comes down to there being a lot of different types of women...and the only common factor here is that none of them are dating these dudes who are complaining. A lot of women have terrible standards (especially when young). A lot of women have ridiculous standards (especially when young). A lot of women prioritize the wrong things or to the wrong degrees (especially when young). And a lot of women are doing just fine and are complaining a little because that's very human and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:05 AM
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Yeah, the lead the conversation thing has always come off as unrealistic to me, I'll give you that. I'm not even the chattiest woman I know and I've almost always been leading the chatter or it has at the very least been too close to call because we're both just bantering and talking back and forth so we'll. The only time I was quiet enough for a man to be leading, it was because he was monologuing about topics I couldn't find any in on because it was that dull to me. With that said, I think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:01 AM
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Did you think the problem with scorned women is we can't understand and imagine the perspective of idiot men? Cuz I want you to know we aren't struggling with that. We know men can be short sighted bastards led around by their cocks with some truly wild justifications for awful and foolish behavior. It's just we had this agreement that if he...well look, he used to be the person I called to kill bugs...so he knows how I deal with things which disgust me and no longer belong in my home. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:56 AM
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I wouldn't do quick sex either, myself. But I recognize not everyone shares my values. But if I was someone into quick sex and this person had a FWB on the side and wasn't gonna fuck me, I'd nope out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:54 PM
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I would never ever in a million zillion years date someone who has a fuck buddy or a FWB. Them doing that is enough to tell me they aren't ready for a loyal committed relationship and that I am not compatible with their sexual values. The fact you know someone foolish enough to court this situation does not in any way reflect to me anything about normal dating dynamics. Now, if you're both fucking around and total lunatics, that's a different story, you crazies do crazy, but it sounds like you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:06 PM
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I've rarely met women who are "open" that aren't cool with "anything goes". I ain't saying never, but this has to be a rare human indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:22 PM
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Look, I basically agree with a lot of what you're saying.... But, I think some of the struggle here is in knowing if you enjoy someone's company or if they enjoy yours and what it means to enjoy someone's company. And I think particularly struggling to marry that into a romantic context. And then this is often compounded by things like autism or ADHD. And then compounded by a sort of grass is greener mentality or FOMO. And finally the attempt to transition from we're friends that enjoy each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:21 PM
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Demonstrating kindness and significant affection towards an animal or child (especially smaller children). The first time I watched my man play with his cat, hurghghghgh. The first time I watched a kid from within our community run up to talk to him and watched him rough house with the kid in a gentle way, I made those anime goo goo eyes. And I've seen this effect happen even with men I wouldn't call attractive or handsome. I've seen it happen to more women than just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:52 PM
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While I agree with the liberty/safety quote given. Put simply, it's because the progressive dudes don't even seem like a real option once you've dated a lot of them. SO you're left with a choice between no one or the traditional dude. And traditional dudes seem pretty good if you've dated a progressive weak sauce dude for awhile. Suddenly their flaws read like a spine and there's nothing more tiresome than a partner without a spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:17 AM
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This presumes appearance and money are remote and disconnected from personality. I always say that people make sense in the way math does. Almost everything about us is a reflection of us and our choices and our temperament. Unemployment is a reflection of our drive, charm, intellect, and other factors. Being a NEET is as well. Standards you do or don't hold are. Finances, generally speaking are also a reflection of who you are and what you value for good and for bad. Even appearances are typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:09 AM
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Not at all. I wouldn't let them in my bed if you paid me. I just recognize what literally everyone not in total fucking denial does: women are the easier on the eyes sex for a multitude of reasons. But if it makes your life easier to pretend I must be sexually attracted to women because your mind cannot entertain nor comprehend the possibility of beauty divorced from sexuality: go ahead. Tis your limitation you argue for, not mine. And a sad one indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:02 AM
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As I clearly suggest, it is not that individual. Even the era you appeal to is replete with women being sculpted and the moment you leave this one era everyone appeals to behind you find a world where there's WAY more nude women than men in art and that only gets worse the further forward you go in time. I'm going to go ahead and guess you can't even name 10 films or television shows made in the last decade in which male nudity is heavily featured artistically. I could just about close my eyes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:00 AM
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I never said I didn't like it. Clearly, I do. I think artistically and aesthetically women generally are better to look at, but I'm attracted to men exclusively. I train martial arts, I'm surrounded by fit men in my social life, but it ain't the norm and wasn't my norm until I started training.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:56 AM

For me, it's much simpler: I never really wanted to. I liked them, I fancied them, I thought them handsome....but the idea of having sex with them that soon was so preposterous a suggestion that even bothering to explain why it would be ridiculous feels like it could be a Russian novel written by someone with the indecency to put like between every single word. Sure, some of what you mention could be chapters in said Russian novel....but at the end of the day, I just didn't want to because I har…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:13 AM
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Agreed. I can appreciate the beauty of flowers, trees, nature, women, men, and all sorts of animals. I've never been accused of being a well whatever those other things are phile, even though if you asked me, I've found far more flowers and trees and birds and cats and rivers beautiful than I've ever found men. There's a great many views from the mountains as the sun is setting that 99% of men couldn't hold a candle to. And yet, only when I make this same observation of women is my sexuality in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:04 AM
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Yeah, I'm with you. Green is they eye which beholds the person who has what you want. I'm not stereotyping as some super dangerous evil mustache twirling dude here. I'm saying I've dated fuckin nerds, frat boys, wannabe frat boys, emos, wannabe intellectuals, smooth operators, and a bender from the breakfast club sort or had them sniffing around. As you suggest, mostly this sort of man is hating a dude who can get easily what he struggles to get with effort. I mean, we're entering the deep end h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:29 PM
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Congrats and beautiful cake!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:27 PM
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And been caught for? Other than man speeding tickets, none. But he'd done his fair share of drugs, driving under the influence, some mild theft, was a smoker, had a clear problem with authority, dated loose women, and came from a family where harder drugs and harder time weren't uncommon. He had (and has) an asshole streak and there were certainly always people even in our circles that weren't fans of his ease with women and sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:39 PM
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Most people are hurt by most people when dating. Men pathologize this process due to jealousy via the bad boy concept. I've dated more "nice guys" or "good guys" or whatever you want to call it shy boy fucking nerds than bad boys. Both categories caused pain and hurt of relatively similar varieties. The ones who hurt me worse in many ways were the shy boy nerds because frankly, I didn't expect their bullshit. A lot of women may not say this because they never dated the nerd shy boys in the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:31 PM
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I want to echo howdoiw0rkthisthing in saying some would argue I tamed a bad boy. I would say that I met someone who had all the makings of a mature and good man, but had never seen a way out of the toxic dynamics he learned in childhood. People are rarely are either fully good nor fully bad and most of the time they're just immature and doing their best with a limited deck of cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:15 PM
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I respect your preference. There's not nothing good about the male form clearly, it has a lot to recommend it when cared for and presented well...they just almost never do so what's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:51 PM
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I also look at many women and have a wistful moment of wishing my body looked like that. I also think from a pure artistic perspective, the female body is more soft and flowing, there's not so many harsh angles. You can drape clothing on it in more pleasing ways, our hair is typically more interesting and pretty to perceive, and again, women put way more effort in on this front, is it a surprise we're winning a beauty contest against the gender that at times has to be informed about soap and its…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:50 PM
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Like I know my husband is gay because he doesn't think that. We've discussed this sort of thing before in passing, he both thinks women are the only attractive to him game in town (sexuality) and agrees women are more beautiful to look at (aesthetics). I can't tell other people how to feel about their husbands. So if he said that, I'd think something was up. If another man said that, I'm open to his argument, but clearly we disagree. Only to someone who has a very limited and dare I say boring u…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:45 PM
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That it is possible sex and attraction are not the only nor main way to perceive others. And that attraction may be more complicated than "you have body type or genitals I want fuck". If he's speaking from pure beauty and aesthetics, I'm open to hearing it from him even if clearly I disagree. It would very much depend on the language surrounding this speech. I think, the reason most men would be assumed to be gay for saying this is that their language likely wouldn't fit the equivalent of someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:40 PM
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I'm capable of appreciating female beauty and thinking it typically exceeds male beauty without that being a statement on what I'm attracted to. I'm never vavavoom attracted to women. I do think they look better naked in a beauty way, but I don't want to get in there and fuck shit up. It's true, I'm not attracted to most men. I am attracted to the masculine form when it is attached to a man I have a connection to and trust. I still with the exception of my husband wouldn't want to see most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:09 PM
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That's the thing, I never suggested that. I was just clear I wasn't ready to have sex with them and I wasn't sure when I would be, but that I suspected it would be marriage or after a very long time. They signed on knowing that (and not sharing those particular values either. They woulda banged if I said sure). And despite holding this position and defending it successfully through multiple relationships, I had long relationships which obviously failed, but never because we weren't having sex. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:04 PM
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As others have mentioned, sexuality is naturally more costly for women whether it's a biological hard stop date which finishes somewhere in their 50s or 60s depending although tends to begin in their 40s somewhere or actual pregnancy or the fact many STDs are mostly annoying for men, but can render women infertile...it's just a more costly prospect. Men have greater variability biologically speaking, their chromosomal make-up tends to render them more fragile in certain major ways that are what …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:34 AM
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I personally like my husband way better than any of my previous partners...that's why I married him. They can't hold a candle to him. And, no, none of our interactions feel less special or like a "regular thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:14 AM
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I never really asked about those habits in most cases because it wasn't my business in my opinion. I can say with my husband, yes, he did. And he's never sexualized every encounter nor did the others. I'm not sure if they wanted me to feel more comfortable, I think for most of them, it just wasn't the main reason for our connection. Don't get me wrong, they found me attractive, but the main drug I've ever been dealing isn't sex (clearly). It's affection, admiration, support, intimacy, and compan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:34 PM

No. I think I was clear. A woman being attracted to you would be a useful heuristic because it would not be necessarily a given. All you must do is find a woman for whom you also hold a torch so to speak. Whereas for the average woman, a man being attracted to us is not useful information because more or less all of them are. It would actually be more noteworthy were a man not attracted to us...although obviously not useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:54 AM
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It was very fun to write.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:52 AM
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I think people think this is true, but in my personal experience...most men will happily forgo sex if they're receiving medium to high levels of affection/intimacy. They think they won't...but that's because they haven't been on the affection/intimacy drug. They get a taste of that and they'll happily sign up for no sex. Now, do I think men think it's a base level motivation...yeah, but that's because they're often insane enough to assume sex means all of these things about who they are and how …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:39 PM
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I always feel like I didn't move on fast enough actually. Good riddance to bad filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:33 PM
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Only the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:33 PM

I dunno, I've never had trouble being able to sort people by a first date. I've just had trouble sticking to the observations because I was lonely, bored, or curious. But I tend to be one of those that thinks it was all there like a thriller in the first chapter (or first date). Nothing was hidden, it just may not have been seen. But the more observant you are, the more you can easily vet a person on a first date. People roleplay themselves consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:32 PM
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I don't imagine Nick Fuentes would be influenced by being called a Nazi. I could be wrong, but the dude seems fairly immune to that. The thing about insulting immutable characteristics (like height or peens) or thing dependent on others liking you/ finding you attractive (virginity) is that they have this tendency to cut past ideological defenses or arguments. And, I do think you sort of see that playing out with Fuentes. His whole thing about it being gay to date women does at times read as a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:30 PM
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Mass Murderers, probably. Felons, I'm less convinced. And certainly not likely to be good partners. It's just a different way to die and without any positives to recommend it. The felons have an overabundance of a virtue...they're much easier to shape up into a good partner. Shy awkward wallpaper guys....nah, ya can't train that, the deficit is too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:32 PM
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I've only had one bad experience with a female nurse/doctor and it wasn't anywhere near this bad. I just found her very cold and not good at listening to me. It's actually traditionally the male doctors I've had bad experiences with. (Not the male nurses. All the male nurses I've ever had were particularly kind, gentle, and very funny and sweet. And I was a little girl at the time so that was really special to me. I remember one used his lunch breaks to play board games with me.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:30 PM

Yeah, all the time. Do you know the number of men I've dated whose main source of food and survival was some form of chicken nuggets and French Fries. The amount of soda they drank was frightening. Yes, most people have trashy diets. Now, on the other hand, hands off my treats. I don't work-out as hard as I do just to bounce a quarter off my ass. I'm also doing it for the candy and the sweet treats and the tato chips. Part of raising healthy kids is teaching them all things in moderation, includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:23 PM
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I think most of this is generically useful advice, it just comes with the obvious caveat of "FOR THE RIGHT PERSON AND EXPECT THE SAME IN RETURN". The stupid ones here are: embrace his family, take his surname, and stay thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:18 PM
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I would naturally assume that given the two partner and consent based nature of things...it has to be the women who are attracted to you. It cannot be among the women who are not attracted to you. This naturally limits your pool more usefully than it does for women (since it offers nearly zero to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:15 PM
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Relationships are naturally two people affairs. If women aren't interested in "something more casual" which the overwhelming majority of women are decidedly against all forms of casual, then my point stands pretty strongly. A man being attracted to a woman is not a useful heuristic. A woman being attracted to a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:14 PM
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In my experience, they're just a different brand of dangerous. Liabilities endanger too. In an evil world, being weak makes you dangerous to people who are relying on you to be strong. They can't look someone in the eye...they're who women are meant to look to if shit hits the fan?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:13 PM

Probably. I'm one of those make the best of all situations kind of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:39 AM

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you and most of the dudes here aren't remotely reliable sources on what it takes for most men to get into a romantic relationship. Whereas, you know, as the audience of most men...I feel like I may have more insight onto what it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:39 AM

The problem is that it's still centering beauty, just in a more fuck off way. It's like being someone who hates Twilight...you're still too concerned about Twilight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:37 AM

I'm a straight woman. But I've worked in sales and fundraising for a significant portion of my career. I know quite a bit about getting people including women to do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:37 AM
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So there's a few things here in my mind at least: A serious or casual dating relationship doesn't necessarily mean sex. I've had relationships that lasted a year or more than never included it. I think you can make it clear this is your expectation, but at least for me, that would be a mismatch and would be the point where things ended. I think you can lay out this expectation, and I think a lot of people would say they want to have sex at least as often as you suggest. I think a lot of maybe es…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:31 PM

I'm not sure what you disagree with. In the first case, you knew that guy wanted more and yet kept seeing him. I would have advised you stop seeing him to be decent and to honor the feelings you know he really has rather than prioritizing your desires. None of this is difficult to navigate. They want more and you know it...drop them for their sake. It was fine to think you shared the same goals, you don't. No need to fret a second longer, goodbye is the correct answer. I will also say genericall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:31 PM
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I've never even heard of this. Where I'm from you do single file or whoever got there first may try to pass through in their little group and it can be polite to stand aside and let them go. There's certainly an older world tradition of men standing aside to let a group of ladies pass by and wishing them a good evening or day with a rakish smile. And if fellas do this for you and the girls you're meant to titter and giggle and tell them to have a good evening or day as well. And I think that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:09 PM
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No, I'm not. I'm saying it's stupid to let it be more than the reason you walked over. All attraction should do is ignite the courage to go say hi. Everything after hi should come from enjoying the conversation and the person animating the thing you find hot. It's neither moral nor valiant...it's intelligence and wisdom I'm recommending. The fact it ends up yielding either moral or valiant results is a biproduct of the fact that which is true has always been and always will be and that it takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:55 PM

I think people make this more complicated than it needs to be: You should communicate your intentions and what you want clearly (even if it makes you look bad or would reduce the chances of you getting what you want). Report probabilities, not possibilities. Stop playing from what is possible, play from what is probable. If you're someone that mostly wants to fuck, don't play from the 1 in 100 if they were absolutely the 10/10 love of your life perfect match you'd want a relationship scenario. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:50 PM

Wait, I thought we always knew this was a struggle for men to attract women they are attracted to that are perfect in all the ways they conceive of as basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:31 PM
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What does that have to do with having standards and being curious about who a person is? Or speaking with consideration and mild respect? Or enjoying beauty, but not having to possess nor impress it? Is this one of those when all you have is a hammer things?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:21 PM

3 seems insane. 4, it depends how long this beard is. My man wears a trimmed beard and always has. I quite fancy it. 7, I think all out is insane, but just go for coffee or a walk in the park with ice cream. It doesn't have to be some big fancy crazy thing to show generosity. Plan a picnic with lunchables is even cute and fun. Go for a few slices (note, where I am this would cost about 10 bucks for two people with sodas). 8, as for not drinking, I don't really drink either and I didn't at all ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:58 PM

Yeah, provided I thought the terms of what breaking it entails were valid and the terms which rewards them are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:49 PM

Yeah, I think that's fine especially since he didn't spring it on me. I'd ask how I can be there for him and maybe at most communicate maybe we can create our own annual special romantic day that isn't that one. I may note it down in case there's other like depressed or not letting things progress signs that could be concerning, but so long as this truly just a one off once a year thing, I'll be supportive in whatever way he requests. If he doesn't want me around, I'd probably try to get a read …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:45 PM

Not these feet. They're just funny looking and hideous. It's not their fault and I do my best to love and care for them anyway, but any man interested in them is a sick ticket. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:32 PM

I don't think much. I guess the closest I generically assume is that everyone has problems in their relationships, but most people are glad to be in them. You know, unless I have some reason to think otherwise. Like if a 600 year old gremlin rolls up with an Amazonian blonde with tits up to the ceiling...I mean, I may make some assumptions, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:05 PM

Not that part. My feet are ugly, feet in general smell, and there's just nothing sexy about them. It's a yikes from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:03 PM
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It is. The answer to input is: not her and she's not attracted to you. If you're feeling inductive or deductive, you can probably get even more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:34 PM
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As a woman, I don't think most men are into me or that I appeal to them. Let's be clear, I'm sure most men would bend me over a table and use me like a fleshlight no questions asked. But to be in a committed and loyal long term partnership in which they have to get to know, appreciate, and love the multi-faceted being that is me...yeah, it's less than 5%. And of that amount, that I would like in return that way, we're under 1%. Dating is a brutal process of knowing most people are either apathet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:38 PM
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I think you are having a problem honing in on the topic here, but let's pretend that isn't the case: Do you think the Joker is particularly good looking because I don't think he is. He's beastly in appearance. So is Wade Wilson for the record. And there's so much about both that is beastly and out of their control. So why do women like them...could it be the safety they represent and the natural attraction women HAVE to feel to danger in order to be with ANY man. Cuz that's my case basically. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:31 PM
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Would you like to give me more to go on or is this just a generic insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:05 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:04 PM
5

We were all disappointed by the body of this post. I was personally hoping we'd be assembling a deadpool bang tier list.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:07 AM
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I feel like I have some insight into this sort of fantasy, because I've more or less been here, although let's be clear, it was only for the Joker because the Dark Knight was a very big movie when I was a teenage girl and who isn't SLIGHTLY seduced by Mark Hamil's Joker and from the 90s. I think people just don't understand the "attraction to an evil monster thing" even though it's really just beauty and the beast dialed up to a dangerous 11. When you're a woman, but let's say a very young one a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:06 AM
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What if, hypothetically, the reason the beauty had no sway over you was because you actually had standards for your life and combined this with being curious what is behind the beauty and what soul/mind animates it so? And what if you combined all of this with a sort of generic level of respect and speaking to women with a mild level consideration only such to make them feel say safe. And maybe, crazy thought, you do enjoy the beauty, but it doesn't require you to try to possess NOR impress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:27 AM
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For sure. It's a very interesting idea that while I'm not entirely on board, I agree with a great deal of the concept and how it plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:42 PM
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I think this is really the answer here. Society props up men's more visual, voyeuristic, and low intimacy/knowledge of the other person required sexuality such that while it may not be simple, it seems such because we're all so familiar with it. Learning English isn't simple, but ask anyone with it as a native language and it will seem such to them because it's just the water they're swimming in day in and day out. And this is nearly a universal language (male sexuality) because it is the domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:12 PM
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Ok, well, I do think that could be a bit more clear especially on a sub like this one. I would take: a lot of men suffering from male loneliness are bare minimum to totally insane. Yes, they do. But pointing at an out of touch fishing weirdo or Chris-Chan is hardly a good way to change their mind is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:43 PM
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This was where you did: "This is showing an example of how men are failing to meet these bare minimums". I apologize if you'd only meant that particular is an example of how it's possible for a man to prove a certain internet talking point has some small basis in reality. Lilith, please, the best of internet LOL Farms and a few isolated bad actors, villys, and sad depressed lunatics can hardly be said to prove this any better than your original candidate. After all, if men must be condemned for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:31 PM
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I don't think it's fair to hold one admittedly pretty out of touch and cringe dude responsible for the weight of all men being so below average that the bar is said to be in hell. After all, if one man is enough to condemn all men, then surely one good man would be enough to absolve them...and a lot of us here are married to a good man...so...yeah this is just bad logic, bad rationalization, and just generally silly. I think you can do better to prove the bar is in hell than this, Lilith. There'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:12 PM
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I don't know if it's being self-centered. I think the transition is really difficult on everyone and men are less inherently attached due to a lack of pregnancy, breast-feeding, and brain chemistry, and less effort being made to engage fathers pre and post birth by various systems. It is literally harder for them to make this transition. I also think, many women unknowingly enable this to get even worse by trying to do everything themselves and exactly perfectly in order to "be a good mother". T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:29 PM
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Yeah, I'mma go with a no. If you're saying women are more likely to forgive a hot dude for bad sex a few times, I can get on board with this observation. But I don't think you're saying that. I love my husband and I think he's hot, but I can tell you there have been runs of bad sex for a whole bunch of reasons. And him being hot did not fill in those holes. And if I prioritized sex super high, I would have had to have some hard conversations and possibly leave. What kept me in the game was my lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:22 PM

I can only speak generally, so yeah, generally women will take that man and make him look better. Which you seem to agree with, so I'm not really going to debate that. I don't think men purposefully do a bad job, I think they lack skill or practice. Given time and practice, I suspect they'd be as good as women so it's not some fundamentally masculine trait (maybe not caring enough to develop the skills is, but even that I doubt). No, I don't think it is, but again, you kind of need the skills to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:17 PM
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I mean, I think it varies, and forgive me, this wording didn't exist when I was dating and meeting my husband, but, I will say then and now I did always feel like a little princess around him. There's no sugar babying to it in my case. He makes me feel special, beautiful, like I'm the cat's pajama's, like I'm the only girl in the room, and like I'm extremely precious. He helps me across ice, rough terrain, into the car, and through the door. He comes running to see me when I get home from work. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:54 AM

The first time she says no, you're not a rapist. If you pressure pressure and cajole her, she was already clear. You're a sexual assault bro if you push past that first no. And if you actually physically touch her, you're a rapist. She said no. Why do you need sounds of pain or discomfort to affirm the no she already said? Wouldn't it be nice? Sure, but we know that in traumatic situations people have fight, flight, or freeze reactions. You're talking to someone who had the reaction of freeze an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:35 AM
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I'm fine with clear communication. What I'm not fine with: thoughtless bluntness, not thinking before you speak how your words will impact me, others, you, and our relationship, manipulative clarity to make me think you have no agenda, you blurting every thought you have out like each and every word in your brain is a missive straight from God that the Earth is waiting with baited breath to hear, disrespectful communication masquerading as clear communication, emotional dumping protected by phra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:20 AM
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I think your approach towards curiosity and to have more friendly/neutral interactions is probably a really healthy one for a lot of men to take up. And again, I'm not like here to point the finger like exclusively men are responsible for how hypersexualized women are...but, if it feels like that's in the way of your life, just learning to be curious about women is a big step forward. *** I think that's part of it certainly. Beauty is a skill like any art and the more you're engaged with it, nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:00 AM
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That's heartening to hear even more so than I already thought. We've been together about 7 years and married almost for 1. Our longest without was about 3 months (I'd had a surgery on the tummy region and was recovering). He was very considerate especially since technically I could have gone back to sex around the 2 month mark, but I was still so sore and weak that it took a month before I was interested. Like, yeah, we love it to bits and pieces, but it's hardly the basis of the connection afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:45 AM
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If my husband really wants to go after another woman, he can make my day in the most Clint Eastwood meaning of the phrase. He'll get out of this marriage, but not until it's done with him. Like yes, I'll let him go, with claw marks. Trying to articulate why would be expressing how much I care, my possessiveness, my love, the invested time together, and the rage at him and another woman taking a steaming dump on the most special and intimate thing as well as setting my life into a blaze of chaos …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:35 AM
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So long as you aren't actively asking for something they deem gross or unattractive....yes. Now, problematically a lot of men have trash taste in styling a woman or they're trying to style her to look like an entirely different woman which rarely goes over well, but yeah. I suppose if you're going after some core element of her personal style it's unlikely to go well. I always ask my husband what he thinks or likes and I know I came into the relationship with him already quite fancying me. And w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:17 AM
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I would have said the average woman is a five since she's likely correctly rating herself. 5 is just a numerical ascribing of average. Most women's average is higher than a man's average once you go to compare what that average entails in comparison to the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:13 AM
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No, his most realistic match is a 4. He thinks he's a 6 so subtract 2. The whole purpose is to help him go from what he thinks he is (men inflate themselves and are generally lower in their averages). So a 5 thinks he's a 6. In order to see himself as most women would he should subtract 2. So a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:53 PM
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Rule by philosopher kings & queens is pretty much the answer. But utopia is unlikely, so the best we can do is simply ensuring both genders have access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as best we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:12 PM
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Hey, fair enough. I'm giving my generic experience and observations. I accept if there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:09 PM
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I said nothing of averages (although, I do tend to think what you say is accurate. (And I do think we see a lot of above average looking single women or women in stupid situations). I'm saying it's almost math. Take an average man and let's attribute the number 5 to him. This is his true rating. He will think he's a 6. Now take him looking at an average woman. Her true rating is also a 5. He is going to see her as a 4. Based on his impression of himself as a 6, he's chasing after other 6's, mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:08 PM
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I would agree it's more...but I'd also suspect your wife is still doing more things than you to be pleasant and pleasurable physically that you haven't had to ask for (obviously, guessing) and that you taking her asking for something as a chance to roll out your own demands would lead to the irritation of "I walked into this relationship doing more and now he wants even more". Especially since shaving your face isn't a default and neither is legs. But digging past this, again, if my husband took…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:59 PM
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I'm not really here to debate you dude. I suspect you'd also do the thing you're saying. But, I think even that would have a higher probability of blowing up in your face because I'm guessing a lot of women would feel like they came into the relationship grooming in ways appealing to you, so it's a little bizarre to take being requested to do the same as an opening for you to ask for even more. Which really only adds to the lists of reasons not to ask a man to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:03 PM
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Charity's defining quality isn't that it's done without expectation, it is that it is done for the undeserving. In concept alone it is about providing something for another who CAN never repay you. And it is quite typically a short term arrangement with a connection that ends when the needy one is safe and dignified. It is beyond a gift, it is something given typically to the needy, destitute, damaged, and outcast. And it is given for abstract reasons of morality and ethics. We do not love the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:44 AM
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I believe you. And I also believe that unknowingly you'd slowly but surely find yourself punishing her in small ways for that very thing and feeling insecure and unloved. And I believe you'd find some conscious resentment for upkeeping that. Again, I don't think much of this is something you'd be aware of, but I think anyone looking at it would kind of know: yo, that part where she asked him to shave his body, that wrecked something vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:29 AM
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I think they think so. I really believe they do. I've never seen it cause anything that isn't insecurity and resentment. And I often don't think the dude is even aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:53 AM
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Wait, you think lying to gain access to the inside of a woman's body only to dump her is about the same as telling a random man you're not interested in them? I tell you what, I am ready to test this theory with you. You are going to be rejected by 200 women. I know, what are you, some kind of martyr hero? But this is for science so buckle up. Once you've been through that we'll run a battery of both physical and mental tests. After that, we're going to have a woman who you find interesting and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:51 AM
3

Mustache Beard Big Muscles Marinara Arms A slightly hairy chest A musky man smell The <==3
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:35 AM
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I like a little, not a lot of hair on the body. I like a trimmed and neat beard, not a big one. I can give or take the mustache, but it better be neat and trimmed, not a fan of the mustacheo look. Just not into bears, I suppose. As for what would I do? I'd just keep on moving. I don't think men are like women on this front and it would just lead to discord and resentment. Men really are embodied in a way I don't think women are...and they take requests to change that stuff as a dagger to the hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:34 AM
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Hope springs eternal and I think reasonably so. Obviously, you have to be attractive to have someone attracted to you and there's many roads to that particular Rome. I think a significant amount of dating is luck or fate depending on how you want to look at it. That's why for the type of guy you're describing I'd honestly just be suggesting for him to get out there even more and put himself in a position where he's interacting with lots of people and essentially rolling the dice a lot. Something…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:31 AM
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They don't lack it, they aren't good at it. Big difference. They're aware you have an interior world which is different and they struggle to understand it. But they don't lack it. The mere existence of their affective empathy means they are not lacking in empathy. Your statement was inaccurate. *** I was clear, if you aren't capable of it, you don't have tact, you're toothless. You give credit to the agreeable for tact when the reality is they lack the capacity to be anything except polite. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:11 PM
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Yes, they care more. That's not the same as understanding tho, is it? *** No, there is a struggle/limitation within their empathy. You claimed they don't have/lack it. They do, they understand you're upset. They struggle to comprehend why. That's not a lack of empathy. *** They don't agree. They understand you think it is creepy. They struggle to take your perspective. This isn't a lack of empathy. They're hurt you find it creepy, this indicates they understand your emotional state. *** Again, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:52 PM
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Their female peers aren't better at cognitive empathy, they're masking their confusion more appropriately. Yes, but none of that is a lack of empathy. They're all their own problems, but they aren't motivated by a lack of empathy. You can have all of these problems without it being a lack of empathy. That's because you have a strange idea of empathy, I think. And I don't mean that badly. They understood that people were upset with them (probably almost too much), but they didn't understand why p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:12 PM
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I don't think you have no point here, BUT, I think with anything like this, it's important to ask ourselves questions like: Why do men commit most of the crimes? Why do men externalize their problems more? Why do men cultivate fewer social bonds? Is this some biological fate that is inescapable? Is this some societally pushed evolution? Is this a product of environmental factors which men are subjected to more than women? Equally, we might ask: Do men feel like they have no other options than cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:57 PM

The one that the kind of women you have a shot with would like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:51 PM
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I've met two men who compete with me mentally....and I've been in male spaces my entire life. Two. Physically, sure, great. Good for you. Ain't it lucky we haven't made sport of enduring pain or having babies...then perhaps we'd fine men the lesser competitors? I don't think the reason you're criticized for following those dudes is how they look or the degree to which they're a positive role model for men. I'm just gonna say I think most of us appreciate Joe Rogan for his influence on getting a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:50 PM
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I feel as someone that dated two autistic men I have some ability to share here: Autistic men do have empathy. Within the psychological realm this is often divided into affective and cognitive empathy. Autistic people generally actually have a greater helping of affective empathy which is to say they overwhelmingly feel the emotions of others. This is in part why they'll find certain people pleasurable to be around and others very exhausting. (I suspect this is in part why they liked to be aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:45 PM
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I don't think it's self-owning to admit most men would give a shapely goat a shot. It means the best way to know a man really likes you is not sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:31 PM
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So, if I'm considering a FWB a relationship between commitment phobic people, you're asking me if I think men should be worried about women with previous relationships which are....toxic or unhealthy? I mean, maybe...but then that would preclude any woman who has had a relationship, more or less. I don't think these people are settling for a lack of commitment, I think that's a feature they desire at that time in their life for so so many reasons. And you have to decide if you accept if someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:29 PM

Risk is defined as being exposed to danger. Please tell me what the danger of decreased pleasure is. Danger is defined as the possibility of suffering harm or injury. I'll await your response to this with baited breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:25 PM
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Nah, I don't think anyone who knows anything about either becomes someone more likely to enjoy public. I enjoy hiking more maybe. That was a nice switch. But otherwise, it's just too much easier to prevent a fight than have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:21 PM
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No, but to be fair, I tend to think FWB is just an open relationship between commitment phobic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:19 PM
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They aren't being deceitful to assume most people have experiences they wish they didn't. And I didn't say a big regret, I said regretted, period. You've never done anything, young, dumb, or stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:16 PM

Daddy, that's what I'm calling you because it sounds like you're working hard...well not hard right, that's the problem ;-) to become a daddy. They make latex free condoms. I know because I've used them because I'm allergic to latex. There's no risk to condom use, decreased pleasure is not a risk. It's a biproduct of safe sex and often a sign your condom isn't well fitted to you. And if you cannot stay hard, again, that's often a sign of it being the wrong size.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:35 PM
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It's not excuses. You're telling me in your ENTIRE life you've never done anything you regretted and when you look back at why you did it, the cleanest explanation was: I was young, dumb, and foolish. Seriously, if that's true, good for you. But most of us see the ages of 15 to like at least 23 and maybe older as the dumbest and most foolish we ever were. Just a series of hard lessons, hard knocks, stupidity and just growing and getting better. And again, I'm saying that as someone who did not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:18 PM
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I understand their frustration, I don't think the solution is for women to not try to build their prince charming standard for who would be worth spending eternity (relatively) with. I think it's better to suggest to these men several things like...: Trying hard at something that cannot be achieved is silly. Work smarter, not harder. Your goal is to build your own bear and find the woman who is perfect for you and vice versa. You are trying hard to be perfect for the sort of woman that would nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:15 PM
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I don't think it's kind per say, it's more I have the time and I sort of sometimes get what seems like it's underlying the things they're saying. I totally agree with taking responsibility and ultimately, like, you're over the age of 20 something and you're still blaming mommy is pretty pathetic. However, I do think there's some use to recognizing where we came from and how we're perpetuating that dynamic still in order to feel safe and comfortable and because we don't know any better. Sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:09 PM
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Happily married to the first dude I found met the feelings I outlined above. I don't use sex as a weapon and I didn't end up used and abused by men who feel sex is an entitlement or the best indicator of future viability as partners. I'm very wanted, thanks. Always was...almost like men don't have very high standards on their desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:06 PM
1

Uh huh..........
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:48 PM
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She's been young and foolish before in her life? I guess no one should ever couple up by that deranged standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:47 PM
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I'm sure most men see them that way. However, oddly your mother and father cannot teach you how to do it and no one would look at you funny if you were 20 and had never given a blow job. They should if you admitted you couldn't even make ramen noodles or operate a sponge. For sure. I don't think only men are this way. I've known many women that I could not truly imagine how a man lived with her because she couldn't like, make chicken soup...from a can. It has directions on the side. And he has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:27 PM
1

I know I'm an exception. I've never hooked up and never would. Gross frankly. Because it is actually a super rare occurrence. Last I knew most women never hook up followed by women who hook-up once. The number of women hooking up consistently is vanishingly small. The women who do hook-ups that one time to consistently have alcohol or drugs involved in the majority of cases (again, this is the stats). So we know this is exceedingly rare as a happenstance and is coming from a compromised mental s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:09 PM
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Yeah, and that's a problem, but at least it's not a problem which is preventing being a fully grown adult. It's just making you a bizarre one (understandably). ADHD of that level does mean you're a worse partner. You may have other lovely qualities, but you are an objectively worse partner. Bad partners expect to be coddled and worked with. Good partners know what makes them intolerable and work on that themselves. They don't expect another fully grown adult to have to put up with it because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:00 PM
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USA. We have to change like 3 major documents and then tell all our banks, health insurance, employers, all the websites, voting, car insurance, car registration, and that's just what I can remember. It took months to complete and just changing the three major documents included scheduling different appointments, waiting a lot in line....and I haven't even done my passport yet. It's a major inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:45 PM
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Totally same. That's why I think if I could do it again, I'd just say my name is my husband's last name and not change it on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:20 PM
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I agree, clearly that not everyone has issues with chores. I don't agree that this doesn't mean people who do are worse people or worse partners. Inevitably if you comb down why it is they're bad at chores, you will find things that indicate they are a worse person (note, not the same as evil). You will also clearly, find they are a worse partner than a person who is the same, but good at chores. Obviously, it's up to each individual what they will or won't accept in another person and how much …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:16 PM
0

I am speaking on how most women operate when it comes to hook-ups. I am aware exceptions exist. We're already talking about exceptions to the exception, I'm not going to pretend there's many exceptional exceptions enough that men should feel validated in how they think of themselves for hooking up. *** Most women are not married to dudes they saw as hook-up material, however. Husband-Material may be tiered and eventually they go with a dude who is solid on all fronts, even if he's not exceptiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:59 PM
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If that's their value set, I can respect it. However, I can acknowledge there may come a certain point at which it becomes something both smart and that they want to do. So by all means, under those circumstances if you have no rules against it, go for it. By that point, it's likely you're thinking with your brain in reality and that all fuckbois have long since grown bored and disappeared. Especially if you've given no deadline to them on when you may change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:55 PM
2

Yikes riding bikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:53 PM
4

Yikes. Mine went relatively smoothly and even I had some health insurance problems in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:16 PM
4

It's like, upending your entire life and then agreeing to have various paperwork issues in the future because this doctor didn't change this so now insurance are this and so on and so forth. It's a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:15 PM

Most single women? Can you show me evidence of this first?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:14 PM
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I'm here to change some hearts and minds and mostly to help dudes tackle the evil voices in their brains ruining their happiness. I'm not willing to compromise on the idea that women are somehow the evil cause of their despair outside of blaming mothers, which I can potentially get on board with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:11 PM
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Right, I understand men don't understand women. But here's a simple chart, you guys like those right? Hook-up = Drinking or drugs were involved and likely I was some combo of young, inexperienced, horny, and depressed. The man was average attractiveness at best and had a seemingly inoffensive personality thus the need for being high or drunk. He was there and I was making bad decisions. When not drunk, I found this person would be an embarrassment or headache to date and clearly the sex wasn't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:03 PM
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My husband has never had a chore chart in his entire life and has managed to somehow every week do dishes, do laundry, mop, take out the trash, vacuum, sometimes clean a toilet. And wouldn't you know, when I get sick or work late, somehow I come home and dinner is on the table. Perhaps he should be studied for scientific purposes? Some sort of new evolution of man? The one that was foretold in feminist myths and legends? An emotionally available and capable of acts of domesticity future CHAD?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:58 PM
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I do, I also train martial arts. The first rule of self-defense is avoiding danger because an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure. So even having these things doesn't make me somehow less wary, it just means I'm confident in better outcomes if things do go sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:48 PM
1

I only dated men who made less than me. Now my husband makes more, but when we first dated for 3 years mama had the money money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:25 PM
2

Yeah. I've resisted rich dudes with abs in college. I'm not interested in the attention that comes with fame of the level you're mentioning. I don't like getting credit for the local community stuff I do. It's really not difficult, especially since I have no connection with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:25 PM
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Think it, Dream it, Do it. Wait, what exactly is your reason women shouldn't assemble a Burger King Build A Bear Partner and then go looking for the closest thing? Why doesn't this make sense to do? My man fits like....nearly 90% of what you mentioned plus my own deranged desires. The only thing he isn't is over 6 foot and I never wanted that and he doesn't make 6 figures yet (although it seems likely he will eventually). So why is this bad? If you're gonna spend life with them, a love match per…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:23 PM
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Having done the paperwork to change mine...I now have much more empathy and respect for the women who don't want that bullshit piled on to an already stressful time in life. I'm glad to share my husband's last name, but I could easily have just gone with not making the legal change xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:21 PM
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I don't think most men making this complaint think most women want felons. This is a pretty small minority and it's mostly said as some gotcha about women wanting bad boys. It's sad because I kind of thought I sort of agree with your title that most men are pretending they want an average woman when the women they find average are above average and that women's average is also higher at base than men's. BUT DID YOU DO THAT, NO. It's just ridiculous. Most men complaining do not think most women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:19 PM

I've never wanted to date a married man. I loathe the people who do and almost every woman I know from all walks of life does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:17 PM

Assuming you've been some genuine effort into yourself, all your Is are dotted and the Ts are crossed...being yourself is the correct option. But yeah, if you're gross, unfashionable, hugely disagreeable, completely charmless...don't be yourself. Improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:17 PM
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I didn't chase men and I didn't entertain fuck fuckbois, although I entertained a few hoping they'd mature. I'm doing fine, married happily. My recommendation to women: don't fuck men. Put it out of your brain to fuck a man for anywhere from 3-6 months of knowing him, maybe longer. Don't ask yourself if you want sex or want to fuck him, that's a stupid question as it's likely the answer will always be yes. Ask yourself if you can see a future in which you regret fucking him and wish you'd never …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:16 PM

It's not the question unfortunately. I think men can screen for anything they want including sex obviously. But they make it clear they don't care really about the relationship by doing as Lilith says. This is about sex first and foremost. They either detest or treat the relationship as an afterthought. Otherwise you'd just be telling me about how she wasn't the one or you didn't match. Instead you're in depth describing hotness and raw desire and the timeline for sex you want. Doesn't sound rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:07 PM

You can. I agree. I also think this is a smoke-screen most dudes are using because they really want a hook-up and then they'll think about a relationship later if ever with never being a higher probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:54 PM

It's just playing the game. They know if they ask for a hookup/sex the answer will be no in the vast and overwhelming majority of cases. So they have to pretend...often to themselves first because admitting that's all they want is kind of dirty even unto themselves. And then they also know that when it is denied, it's much easier to boo hoo about wanting connection and relationships, people have empathy for loneliness., We don't have almost any for "my pee pee no touchie touchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:52 PM

I give it to you, and it's been awhile, I do think you're basically right here and that's why men aren't responding to what you say, they're moving the goal post about "well whatever the fastest she ever had sex was is the fastest she should fuck me". Cuz they know you're right with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:08 PM

They fancy a bicker and a moan...and they doubt being here truly influences their real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:09 PM

Probably because your sex tells us regularly how you don't even have to like someone to fuck them and that sex is meaningless and you can do it with anyone including in contexts where you're cheating on your spouse and it's not a betrayal because "it was just sex". I really value sex with my husband and the intimacy attached. I don't find this intimacy to be something that nothing else is even as close to fulfilling or validating...possibly, I admit because I value friendship and family very hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:22 PM
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Not how gaslighting works. They believe themselves to be the prize and are saying so. Gaslighting would require that they don't believe that and are saying so to manipulate you and replace your reality. Otherwise all marketing would be gaslighting. They believe it's your job to approach them, they're allowed to dictate what they think, doesn't mean you have to listen. Have you talked to most men? Or do you apparently believe some reddit threads and quora are believable indications of most men, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:46 PM

I don't disagree with you at the core you're better off not jerking off than jerking off to an unobtainable fantasy. However, I'm open to the fact a lot of men don't want to do that because the physical urge is beyond their control. I think you're at the root of their problem which is that they wish to not live with pain from unfulfilled longing/desire. And that's just an unreasonable request that cannot be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:06 PM
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I don't think you're going to make an inherently inefficient thing efficient. I don't think you're going to abolish gender either honestly and expectations seems unlikely. If you were going to succeed with this, you'd first have to make it so anyone could be pregnant and if you could do that, then MAYBE.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:43 PM
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You deleted a lot more than just the comment was my point. Cuz gaslighting is trying to manipulate someone into questioning their own sanity/reality. They aren't trying to do that. They aren't saying you have to do this, they're saying they only interact with men who do by default because they ain't doing it. It's like me saying I only teach kids that come to my classroom...like yeah, cuz I ain't going out to wrangle kids or teach in a different classroom. No gaslighting required or present. Oh …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:37 PM

I am. I haven't had to make the first move yet. Every day is liberation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:22 PM
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I mean, if I can't tell them that being masculine isn't about relationship success and taking romantic rejection as a dismissal of their masculinity is stupid and I also can't tell them to find other values and purpose elsewhere or to work on themselves to achieve success... Yeah, I'd say accept the lowering of your masculinity. Don't forget it and it can never be used to hurt you and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:37 PM

The realization that almost all of the supposed fears there are of others...is really just fear of unknown men or different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:31 PM
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I'm not an apps girl never have been. But, I've had friends. It's just overwhelming. You almost can't keep up with the amount of interest. It's like if you had 200+ emails every single day to sort through and all of them COULD be important. And then let's say you manage to comb through this and respond, now you have probably 20+ conversations going with strangers...and your normal life. I don't respond to my actual friends and family sometimes, but I know I want to be in touch with them forever.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:17 PM

They shouldn't do it. Stay free, princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:59 AM
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Dude, this is literally the reality. Everything else is just an explanation of some of the other dynamics that can be at play. Add in, I'm just not interested. I've never seen a strange man I thought I should ask out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:58 AM
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I really love how you've removed so much of your quiet part out loud, mask off moments. I guess you figured out talking about financially oppressing and physically abusing women made you seem like an unhinged lunatic even to the old school conservatives you seemed to be both courting and slandering? Women who think they're the prize You didn't really prove this was gaslighting nor indeed even incorrect. Just that it is perhaps a unsavory mindset with which to approach finding love. I do love tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:56 AM
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I totally agree, they do. I also agree it's valuable to learn that it's ok not to get everything you want, also things others want that you feel you should want. And it is important to learn the world doesn't revolve around you. I'm not saying otherwise, I'm saying you can still have sympathy for the fact it feels that way to them and that there is a real social cost to not keeping up with the joneses. And in fact, it is paramount to helping them learn these lessons that they don't feel entirely…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:54 PM
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Ok, well, it first may help you to know most people struggle with making friends, knowing when someone is their friend, and being a little (not a lot) socially awkward. None of these are easy things to do/know and most people will put their foot in their mouth a thousand times before they're bad at it. In your case, it sounds like maybe you have a slightly higher helping of weird than perhaps the average person, not in the worst way, just in a way that may make things a little more difficult esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:03 PM

I will happily agree to disagree with you. Have a lovely Valentines!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:15 PM
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Could you tell me more about yourself because I feel like this is the experience and theorizing of a very particular sort of man/person? I think how you speak (and sorry if I'm wrong, you're dealing with my experience and theorizing) is that the person who feels this way is typically introverted, a little socially weird (not a lot, just a bit awkward), struggles with making friends and knowing when someone is their friend, and generically believes everyone else is having an easier go of it. Auti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:15 PM

I mean, I had to act, it was a subtle act which is often a more difficult thing to do than a not subtle act. It's easy to smile with your whole face, it's much more difficult to only smile with your eyes. So yes, I would say I acted. I don't think I was lazy, I just wasn't fully committed and I was willing for it to "not happen".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:13 PM
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I'd have said don't make it a goal to the exclusion of all other goals, joys, and happiness. Don't let it destroy your peace. Don't let it make you desperate or likely to accept a bad match just to have anything. Finding a good and wholesome relationship is likely to take years to accomplish specially if you've got a deficit like coming off as creepy, autism, etc. It's not easy to do. You've probably got a lot of bad dates in there, a couple failed relationships that had potential, maybe one goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:11 PM

Hinting a lot is a move in my world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:02 PM
1

Is this your experience or is this your theorizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:01 PM
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Jerking off fulfills the physical element thus making sure particularly for men the pipes get cleaned out. The emotional desire for attachment and intimacy is a solid desire and one I totally understand...but something that can be fulfilled without sex (a close friendship or even a pet would get you that). That's why we suggest jerking off. The anger at men who just want sex is anger at men desiring to use women as masturbatory aids plus some ego validation. We aren't removing emotions and intim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:56 PM
1

If physical attraction is still defining your relationship after a year, you don't have a relationship, dude. You like fucking and that person looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:48 PM

I make moves, they just aren't overt. If that's a problem for the men, I'm fine with not dating them. I will survive not dating those particular men in favor of the ones who can deal correctly with more covert communication. I do believe men are better if they'll chase and aren't that interested if they won't (or are afraid which I never had any use for either). I do think they respect women who are too overt or excited less respect although I do not believe they are consciously aware of this (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:47 PM

Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and say this isn't about me, I'm gonna guess someone has been on the business end of social games and lost and now is upset when they hear these games can be used for communal good. I'm sorry bad things happened to you, I've been living this new way for a long time now with much greater safety, peace, and joy...and not being branded an immature catty bitch or being plopped in a river. I don't know if you need to believe that the people who hurt you are rejected, but, I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:40 PM
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As important as the things you mentioned are, they aren't why you cast someone as your husband or wife. Those are good for fucking. It's on you if you let someone cast you because of your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:37 PM
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That's the motive of a virus. I think we have far greater purpose than propagation and sexual attraction is not of utmost importance for long term stability, in fact, I'd almost argue it's utmost to short term and plays a significantly lesser role to long term (although not zero). I've been with the same person for 7 years happily. I think I may have some useful insight into what that takes and sex isn't even top ten on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:36 PM
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I can agree with your framing somewhat...but I can also say as a middle school teacher...it can be fucking brutal for the tweens not to have whatever the "in/stylish/popular" items are. And it's not always overt, sometimes the mistreatment and casual cruelty they treat each other with is subtle and pernicious in a way only those playing social status games can be. It hurts all the same and thus the insistence to parents certainly has a bratty undercurrent, but it's not as baseless as you seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:22 PM
1

My husband appreciates my career and that I brought financial intelligence and savings into our relationship. You get to pick the man back, friend. Select men who value what you value in yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:08 PM
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People aren't disposable, the role is interchangeable. This is why I recommend against being selected based on the role over who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:06 PM
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I mean, I was friends with guys who eventually confessed attraction to me that I did not return. I do not like this framed as me doing something to a guy ala friendzone. With that said...the guys I turned down well, most went on not to date anyone and the two that did went on to date women I would say were significantly less attractive physically, although probably more or less comparable in terms of lifestyle and personality, I mean I would say mine is better, but I feel like personality is suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:40 AM
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I'm glad sex is included in our relationship of course, but I can certainly imagine there may be long stretches without it in our future and eventually it may die altogether (I'm not wishing for that, but I admit it's difficult to imagine being 70 or 80 and still getting that physical). Even as it is in our 30s, all it takes is one of us to get the flu and it'll be weeks before we're back to anything. And we hope to have children which I can only imagine will mean I'm out of commission for anywh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:29 AM
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As if I possess mind control. They do decide for themselves how to handle things, I merely present my thoughts knowing they are valued. In my experience, people trust me more for speaking my mind and defending common good even when it means having to be blunt and forthright. The fact I'm aware it generally requires "ganging up" even more so. After all, it is vulnerable to display that you need others in order to ensure safety and common good. Atomization is foolish. I've never struggled with kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:22 AM
3

If I'm disliking someone, it's because they are a problem for everyone. I'm just letting everyone know it so we can handle the problem. I'm no longer entertaining their tragic backstories or that they just need a little love to be better. And I've yet to find this method isn't way more effective. Everyone else trusts my say, just like I trust their say about someone. Don't surround yourself with people you wouldn't trust to be in your community and hold that community to the standard of behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:10 PM
1

I think men date down often...and hypergamy supports this. Most men will gladly date 1-10% down to lock a woman down for consistent affection, sex, and the status attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:27 PM
1

There's lots of men hotter than her without being particularly hot. Most men don't have to be generically hot, they have to be hotter than the woman they're pursuing and only mildly at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:46 PM
1

I'm from the US. What happens in the rest of the world shouldn't be my business. I oppose war and draft generically, but it doesn't seem others agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:45 PM
2

I love my father, brothers, and uncles. But they would have been terrible at picking a man for me. Most men are not good at picking a man for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:33 PM
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I'm not 20 anymore. I used to think if they understood what they were doing they'd have sympathy and empathy which would make them change. I'm 30 now. I don't ask for this stuff. I merely play the game better now. My greatest flaw as a younger woman was not wielding my social power over people to prevent their misbehavior because I was being sympathetic and empathetic. Now, a man (or woman honestly) is being a piece of shit, I go right to wielding the social fabric against him until he's no long…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:20 PM
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I'd put myself in the camp of downplaying importance, but it's important. It's just not the basis of my marriage or the relationship which predated it. We've gone without sex many times for many reasons and we still were romantically and intimately happy. I think of it as a maturity, honestly. We know our companionship is based on the 99% of our time spent together living, laughing, knowing each other better than anyone, supporting each other, and working towards common goals. People who make se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:10 PM
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I tend to listen to everyone and then judge their opinions for how reasonable I think they are and if they have a life I would like to have. In your stated example, Woman B is the younger woman. You have to ask yourself if you think young women are often self-aware of what drives them. A good rule for life is to be careful of hearing what you want to hear and trusting it. Cuz if it's what you want to hear, there's a good chance the person saying it knows that. I would similarly advise say fat gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:00 PM
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Yeah, cuz one of those is happening every single day while the other hasn't happened against that kid's will in my lifetime and even longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:52 PM
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We do, it's true, but it cuts both ways so chances are she can still find a man who is at least close to the same or slightly better. So if you're that dude, again, it's probably you she's attracted to. I think men greatly underestimate how much most men want to commit that are friendly and attractive (note, I'm not saying Brad Pitt when I mean attractive, I mean mediocre attractive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:51 PM
1

Whut? My man asked if I'd get him ice cream and that was boundary testing? I flirt and create tension, sir. I don't like men who can't hear no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:52 PM
0

You know, I would kiss most cats I've ever met and cuddling them in about a minute flat. Do you think every man I know should be upset about the fact that the moment I meet a cat I'm ready to take them to bed and do all manner of platonic physical intimacy with them? Should I tell my husband? Does he know it took him six months to get a smooch, but the stray ass cat I helped rehome got all kinds of snuggling and pets? The reality is every connection is different and every woman has different lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:51 PM
1

O_O I mean, I'd say if you don't know your girlfriend cuz things are too new then those are my go to suggestions. WHY? Cuz well, everyone regardless of gender likes dinner. Dinner is awesome. And a card...again everyone likes cards both men and women like a heartfelt note from their special someone. Flowers are the stretchiest stretch, but again, most people like flowers again regardless of gender. I suspect most men would enjoy flowers too given how they seem to like them so much out in nature.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:43 PM
1

Whatever you say, I've never felt spark had much to do with sexual tension, flirting, or boundary testing. I think of sexual tension as very much a thing that comes and goes, flirting should be a result of chemistry, and if I even understand what boundary testing is, it destroys spark and makes most women horrendously uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:36 PM
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I agree, but it's less likely and then you'd have more reason to assume they're just nervous, right? Ok...do you dislike calling more than you dislike going on a crappy weird date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:35 PM
2

Everyone has baggage, the difference is often in the kinds, how easy to address, and the irritation that they haven't addressed it yet themselves. Older women often have more of the kind no one wants to touch, it isn't easy to address, and often some leftover why haven't you fixed this yet. Note, I'm 32, I'm not ragging on my sisters. I'm aware 22 year old me was easier to stomach in certain ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:02 PM
1

I think the spark is typically describing a feeling of "oh, your crazy matches my crazy!" combined with fairly generic is this person hot enough to either cause visual or responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:59 PM
1

I do not assume that my tastes are every woman's tastes or that I am the one for them. For example, that particular man needed a woman who is easily impressed by bullshit (many are), likes weed/ alcohol (I don't), cares about gambling (I don't), and shares his brand of daddy issues (absent or uncaring).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:23 PM
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No. It's only brought up here by..fuck it, I'm saying it: stupid men that think it's a gotcha because in this particular country women aren't drafted so they see it as obvious sexism (which it only like half is) and therefore the most obvious proof on the planet that men are second class citizens. And then if you ask them if they've ever done more than bitch about it online, they go oddly silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:21 PM
1

How long does sending say five texts a day and then having one half hour phone call a week take? Not that long is the answer. If the five texts are fun have the phone call. If it isn't fun to text with them, it's unlikely to be fun to talk with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:18 PM
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Last I knew feminists oppose the draft regularly...it just kind of hasn't happened in so long that it's not at the front of the agenda when compared with say abortion, abuse, education, jobs, etc. I have no doubt if a draft was attempted, it would jump to near the front of the list. And yeah, it's difficult to cook the draft all the way when so many men do not oppose it and in fact are kosher with it and the ones who aren't won't form a movement they can work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:29 PM
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I thought the thirties were the prime time to be dating as a man...I better not see everyone agreeing with you just cuz a man said it. No, but I agree with you, I think as you age dating gets harder in certain ways involving people compromising, being available to meet new people, and not having baggage. I think it's easier in the sense most people know what they want, are more confident, aren't dating for potential or fantasies of who a person could turn out to be, and obviously it's more likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:24 PM
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I don't know what kinds of dates you've been on, but this strikes me as a dating apps problem or don't know each other very well/share nothing in common problem. This is why I think everyone should kind of know each other prior to trying to get a coffee one on one. Plus, it does sort of somewhat help take a little of the pressure off. Can this still happen? Sure. But it's significantly reduced chances. I've been on 1 dates like this where all he did was talk about himself and be a little rude/di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:08 PM
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All men are disagreeable, it's a type that is being sought after and in a specific degree. When you're young, you're more likely to incorrectly filter either in degree or type or both. A big part of the learning and growth process is finding the correct degree and type. And I'm not sure why you can't complain about finding the wrong type. Anyone can complain about anything they want. If they accepted the supposedly "good" men they're filtering out they'd be dealing with cunty pathetic disagreeab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:58 PM
2

Strange that I did not say that. Maybe I wasn't clear enough: I said that it often starts out not very good, but better than men for a variety of reasons and is heavily dependent on the environment they were raised in and what reads as normal to them. As they age, it gets better and better typically. I then said all the criticism we receive is for not filtering for a good woman as a woman, but rather filtering for a good man...because the men criticizing think we should be filtering for what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:49 PM
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Posting same thing here as the other thread: Not very well when young, but this also depends on the environment in which they were raised and what was normalized for them. I personally have gotten way better at filtering over time, but it took a lot of hard lessons. And a lot of the reason I had to learn those lessons is because of what was normalized by my parents and home environment for me. (Also some generic young and dumb in there). I think the reason women get any higher credit in this are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:00 PM

Not very well when young, but this also depends on the environment in which they were raised and what was normalized for them. I personally have gotten way better at filtering over time, but it took a lot of hard lessons. And a lot of the reason I had to learn those lessons is because of what was normalized by my parents and home environment for me. (Also some generic young and dumb in there). I think the reason women get any higher credit in this area is that we're filtering at all compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:21 PM
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I think they could and it's best to approach them with caution and not trust. I'm aware men are in great danger and are socialized to be excellent victims. I do not agree with this. I think men too should be more afraid of strangers than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:46 PM
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I love the idea of trust, but verify for a lot of things. Not things which can end with me raped and murdered...things like did my student do their homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:37 PM

But that group isn't. Men are. How do I know: cuz black women don't scare me. So it's not about being black is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:45 PM

I'm happily married with fine community standing and friends of both genders. I protect my peace and safety and feel quite healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:29 PM
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I and my life are not a legal system. So yes, I do in fact treat people as if they need to prove themselves worthy of trust and vulnerability. I recommend all individuals do so. From other men, yes. And often because they refuse to operate with safety in mind. It is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:28 PM

I think it's reasonable to be afraid of men. Not so much the race. So no, I wouldn't think they're racist for saying they're afraid of men. I'd think they were if they said they were specifically afraid of black bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:19 PM

Again, if you think that's likely, then I think you should be antsy. Clearly by how you describe it, you don't think that's likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:18 PM
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I would say this is largely true, I do think they still try to pressure for it. It's kind of like kids in school asking me if they can use their cellphones. They know the answer is no, but they sure do still ask a lot or in this case imply a lot in hopes that it somehow goes off. This leaves an impression in women that men do expect it because they pester so much for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:30 PM
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Can you criticize groups? Sure. Can you criticize individuals? Sure. Can you criticize systems? Sure. I think it's the how that indicates if this is based on hatred or not. I also think how actionable the criticism is matters a great deal. For me, the easiest place to see the difference is that well, most people don't want to date someone with children and you could explain why and it would be critical. But when I see men criticizing single mother's the words whore, slut, used up, idiot often ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:56 PM
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I'm sure that's true. I'm also sure I would not know that if I glanced across the street at you or we were perfect strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:49 PM

Whatever you say, dude. I've given you a fair and reasonable explanation, it just hurts your feelings so you reject it. It's not hate as I've demonstrated by pointing out it is a reasonable level of doubt and wariness. I mean....women are the only ones who do false rape accusations...and if you think that occurs regularly enough that you should be wary (which I do not, think reality nor statistics support this), but if you do, go off sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:51 PM
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Not at all. It means the explanation and justifications need to be reasonable, plausible, and based in reality. And the response is proportionate on top of that, if anything, women aren't afraid enough. Go ahead and try to call us out. The response will show you who it is that people seem to think is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:48 PM

It doesn't have to be likely to be reasonable. It has to be at a high enough possibility, which it clearly is. Again, I made it clear you couldn't with black people. Just black men. Which suggests it isn't about being black...it's about being a man. And yet not small enough. Especially since SA isn't the only danger a man poses and many of the reasons those numbers aren't wary is because women are wary and preventative measures are taken. The number of men that may like to, but are prevented can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:45 PM

I hear ya. Again, I'm not wary of black women. That's how I know it ain't about being black. It's the man factor because of the reasons you've listed. It is indeed. And they know it. They know it the moment they have daughters, girlfriends, or wives. They just pretend otherwise when they're single or having a debate because they want so badly for misandry to include being afraid of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:43 PM

No, I'm indicating to you the thing you're not understanding. Every bear attack included a bear. The majority of bears don't attack, doesn't mean I don't carry bear spray or back the hell up and run away when I see one. Same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:38 PM
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Which particular sort of man would you like me to answer about? Give me a description.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:57 PM

No, but the overwhelming majority of SA is done by men. Thus probability, thus fact, thus reasonable to be afraid. It's like saying the overwhelming majority of bears don't attack people. True, but all the bear attacks did include a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:57 PM

No, but the overwhelming majority of SA is committed by men. Thus it being reasonable to be wary. Against black men, sure. But I'd say only one of those things is the reasonable part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:55 PM

Only the men. I do in fact feel justified, as do all women because it's not paranoia and it is rational. That's what prevents it from being prejudiced. And here's the beautiful part...if I proclaim this, the overwhelming majority of people will agree with me, because they too know the danger of men is real and not unreasonable. And I don't just mean women would agree. The majority of men do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:33 PM
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I'm sure you think you ate with this take, but the unfortunate reality is that bigotry requires it to be unreasonable and prejudice does as well. Lived experience and statistics alone mean it is not unreasonable to fear or be wary of men. And I'm not burdening anyone with this. I'm going about my daily life. You bother me you're the one seeking me to accommodate you...and I don't have to do that in order to prove I'm not prejudiced or bigoted. My crossing of the street is not me requiring an acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:32 PM

I think a lot of good thinking has been done on this topic, but my favorite is Contrapoints video on Twilight. To give you the TL:DR: there's not a contradiction really. Women, particularly young women are trying to come to peace with a very complicated sexuality due to the way violence is inherently put on them at very young ages and thus much of their fantasies is an attempt to control that which causes them great terror.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:45 PM
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I think it is important to note, I do not hate men. I'm cautious of them and wary, but it isn't hate that is the emotion I detect within. I'd say exhaustion is in there, fear, irritation. But not hate. I mean, I hate the men you're mentioning who are creeps, rapists, go after underage women, are married, but yeah, your average dork who is just hassling me, I don't hate him. I'm just tired of and wary of him before he starts talking. Now, where I get really angry is men who deny this or act like …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:06 PM
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It's a little difficult to go with this because I've been in relationships where I was being treated like a trophy and it took me awhile to figure it out and once I did I left. I wasn't ok with how I was being treated and we fought often, but I couldn't quite put my finger on the problem and was constantly trying to make it work because that's what I thought relationships were as a young and foolish woman. When men are complaining that only the top 10 percent of men are in relationships it works…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:03 PM
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I understand they're in distress, I understand why they're in distress, I do believe much of that distress is inappropriate and if they'd get out of their myopic world they'd realize that. However, I too have been distressed by my own myopic desires before so I can empathize with this situation. Why do I think I have something to contribute? Well, I've gotten out of my own way before so I have some insight into how that works. I also know very often why they're failing with women generically and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:00 PM
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Anger isn't a primary emotion. Many men don't understand this. I think in this case you're correct that it is fear driving and motivating much of these complaints, but I think it's also often covering up shame and hurt in these cases. And ultimately if they want to get over this and improve, they have to address what they're afraid of, if/why they're ashamed, and why/if they're hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:52 PM
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George just lucky I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:48 PM
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You use the concept of applying for a job....people can be really lazy applicants and really lazy about applying. They can also be inappropriate applicants because they're too lazy to get the appropriate credentials. This is the accusation women make against men with varying degrees of accuracy based on individual situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:48 PM
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We weren't a reward. I wasn't given in recognition of any achievement nor was he. Falling in love is not an achievement, dude. No, they're not doing great. They are succeeding, this is different than doing great. If you think success is the same as doing great I understand how you got here. Doing good deeds will always be fundamental in every world to people who don't see success as the ends of their deeds. There's no such thing as a good person who does evil, homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:30 PM
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My presence and especially the holes of my body are not a reward. My husband doesn't see me as some trophy for having been a decent human and having sex with me wasn't some plaque in honor of his goodness. I don't mind when people receive recognition in the form of trophies or medals or plaques or fancy titles. I mind when my body, love, affection, and desire are seen as trophies, medals, plaques, or fancy titles. And I especially mind when men have felt that good behavior entitled them to recog…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:53 PM
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I'm attracted to men and I hate them on a semi-regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:55 PM

Dude, what argument are you forwarding? Cuz it sounds to me like you think men are smart to accept mistreatment and horrors in order to avoid depression. If that's the case, stop complaining about the trade. You avoid depression, you take on a horrid shrew. Good for you. You chose well?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:32 PM

Yes, and if they don't think that's worth their dignity then that is a choice they are making. Wait, so you think this impacts their wellbeing and makes them more satisfied....so they're doing fine with their limited choices of miserable shrews? Which is it? They're glad to have these relationships which make them better or they deserve better? Sounds to me like you think men are smart to settle down with anyone who will have them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:31 PM
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I think progressives have a true problem they have to address with saying all gender expressions are ok, but then calling well, the more typically conservative ones toxic or internalized misogyny or so forth. It's a real contradiction on the surface of it. And I realize this is much deeper and they don't have a terrible explanation to provide...but it's not as solid as they may like. In my world it's like...yeah not defending your woman is being a fucking pussy...and you should be allowed to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:29 PM

slow burn romance is a story trope where the romantic relationship between characters develops gradually and realistically, focusing on deep emotional connection, shared experiences, and growing attraction rather than immediate passion. ^ this is what I'm referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:25 PM

I think they confuse second option with moving from not having been an option to being one. Slow burn as a concept is usually attached to say your brother's best friend, your childhood best friend, the girl/boy next door who you never really saw that way because you were children together, maybe the coworker who was dating someone else (think Jim & Pam who initially are in denial of their feelings and desires), it's not about being the second choice, it's the other person having been blind to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:53 PM
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I think if you're the sort of man who runs away and doesn't help your girlfriend, you are less of a man in that situation. But, I'm also not a progressive and I also think progressives aren't really about erasing enforced gender expectations so much as adding the opposite's roles to them. Although, I acknowledge they may say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:50 PM
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I'm not sure women are the gender known for ignoring how complicated attraction can be....I think we're just the ones known for suggesting the math ain't mathing on certain fronts no matter how hard the math and outstanding factors try to add up. I see attraction like a roll in Dungeons and Dragons with all kinds of modifiers....but you still have to roll and certain things make it very unlikely you'll succeed. And you can say this is environment or other such things...but then you have to ask w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:00 PM
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I care about my male friends' problems. I care about my fellow man and woman more generically, which is to say if I see a way to help them that doesn't really cost me very much, I will quickly and happily do it. No one ever got poor sharing and all that. I'm open to being put out a bit to help men, but it needs to be pretty clear it will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:55 PM
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If my man ran away while I was being attacked by muggers and watched, our marriage would be in serious jeopardy. I wouldn't abandon him in a scrape. We ride together, we die together. Bad boys for life. Sorry you see your person as expendable or possible to replace, but they're the only them on this planet. I will never find another my husband. So I'm ready to go to the fucking mats for this man and I know he'd do the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:53 PM

Men too undisciplined to have standards: women at fault. More news at 11. You always have a choice...no one is an option. You'd rather mistreatment and horrors to nothing. Which is fine, but stop playing like you've been cursed by Zeus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:50 PM
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I dunno what women you're bedding, but my man doesn't have to stay hard the whole time or I get upset. We just gotta work through that and get him back to bricked up or in some cases if it's just not happening, which is rare, but it happens...it's just not meant to be. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak and all that. I mean I like a good hard boy, but I'm aware bodies can be doing their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:48 PM

I say this often, but this is mature men who should know better tormenting damaged and hurt young women...which is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:02 AM

I'm cool with you feeling that way. For me, if my man wanted to watch porn while we were getting busy, I'd tell him I find that disrespectful, we need to have a serious conversation, and if he's committed to this plan maybe he can find another woman to share his bed who doesn't find that disrespectful. And if he wants to jerk the gerkin to that sort of stuff while he's committed to me, maybe he shouldn't be committed to me because again, I find that disrespectful to the intimacy we share to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:27 PM

I personally would disagree, but I accept those are your sexual values and think you should find someone who shares that sexual value. I don't use toys to be clear, not from some deep virtue, there's only once or twice in my brain I've thought that maybe they'd be a good thing for my marriage...and mostly only because sometimes my husband is both very horny and very tired. Do I think they're the same as porn? No. For me, toys would be about a shared experience and improving sex within that share…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:57 PM

Those women wouldn't be considered worse partners to dudes who like using toys on their women or don't care...which exists in droves. You don't, which is fine, find a woman who doesn't want to use them. I don't see the desire to use sex toys making a woman a worse partner. Just a specific kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:45 PM

There's really no other point to be had is my point. I could explain to you the difference between porn and a sex toy, but I think you already know those differences and ultimately this is some sort of weird gotcha that isn't gotchaing as hard as you think it is. The real point is if someone requests or demands something sexually you aren't comfortable with, no is a full sentence. You don't need some weird intellectual stand off about how a visual medium is the same as a physical medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:39 PM

I cannot say this enough: if you aren't comfortable with a sexual request or act of any kind with any tools, implements, or toys in any location in any position: SAY NO. And if the other person does not quickly and wholeheartedly back the freak off: leave and do not allow them to speak, convince, or in any way shame you for your boundaries. Just because you're a man doesn't mean you have to be sexually open to anything under the sun a straight woman wants. Say no. Say no is a full sentence. NO. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:48 PM
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Yes, and there's tons who aren't. Do you think it's reasonable to say something isn't advice if it doesn't apply to every single human in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:47 PM
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I believe saying put yourself out there is a platitude...it would also solve a number of men's struggles on this front (although not all of them). Make something of yourself would be the platitude for the problems you mention...and also would correctly fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:40 PM

In my limited experience, those dudes weren't that way during the very early phases of talking. They were fun, flirtatious, maybe a little awkward, but they talked back and forth fine. There's something about the conceit of a date or the sitting across from another person that tends to reveal who they are once their "good stuff" is used up and they become boring or unsociable or you guys just don't vibe because the chemistry isn't carrying through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:53 PM
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There's a lot here, but: Men don't have to protect women...they often choose to which I appreciate. Giving gifts isn't providing, it's attempting to please...it's a move. It's not done out of total good will. As for the procreation part, men are donating that sperm. That's a choice. Women can also be hired as surrogates. The rest of this sounds like it's caused by men's desperation for approval and desire for women...not something forced on them. Society hasn't liberated women, women liberated t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:31 PM
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I can't speak for other women, but I would say money does matter, but not necessarily in the way men think? I've turned down guys with lots of money because it meant our lifestyles wouldn't match or our values weren't aligned. Would it be nice if a man just had a money tree in the backyard that really only meant a bit of gardening here and there, sure. But that's not how having a lot of money usually works. It usually comes with baggage attached, some women won't mind that baggage, some will. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:13 PM
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I'm curious, what societal systems do you think are allowing insufferable women to not have to become more pleasant to men? Because the only forces I see causing this are men's desperation and women's greater socializing (they're just putting themselves out there more).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:32 PM
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So I'll be honest, when I started doing the devil's tango, I hadn't really been someone who masturbated for a whole variety of reasons and I didn't really know what I liked. I still really don't flick the ole you know because it just has never been fulfilling to me. I think what really helped me and is part of why I ever picked my man and husband in the first place to be my first was that he'd always been incredibly gentle, patient, and focused on making sure I felt safe and comfortable because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:27 PM
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I think this happens when people do two things. Present their feelings as rational or for the judgement of others. Are telling others how to feel or live. Someone else comes along looking to tell them what to do and butts in. I entirely agree with you that you don't have to rationalize your attraction or behavior to others. And yet, so many do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:06 PM
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I think red pill changes are very surface level, which isn't irrelevant, but is not generally as important as they make out and will only influence the sort of woman I mention that greatly. And yes, I think most people do need to change a significant amount of themselves possibly, in some cases, their entire self. That's why I think it's entirely fair to not want to, but there's consequences there. I think anyone who wants to torment the damage and tormented and then make the switch doesn't real…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:02 PM
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I think everyone cares about these things, but to varying degrees and not to the exclusion of factors like personality, other skills, and moral fiber. It's like asking me if I think men only care about boobs, bums, and being sexually open....I don't think they only care about those things, but I do think those things seem to be significant to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:58 PM
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Based on everything you've said, it sounds to me like men must be so weak, pathetic, and deplorable that they don't have standards which prevent them with being with women since they are so awful. I dunno...maybe y'all should have strength of conviction and peace to decline such arrangements and attachments. Or as they say in your hometown: choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:01 PM
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Women aren't pokemon cards and it's like you think advice needs to be for every individual case. If you want to be able to trick damaged and bi-polar women into a series of short term flings, give the red-pill a shot and enjoy being a blight on humanity tormenting and damaging the already damaged and tormented. My advice is for finding a long term committed romance that you would be happy in once you get over the initial shock of not being allowed to be a self-indulgent adolescent who thinks the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:54 PM
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I agree. I would tell those men to learn to deploy disagreeability at appropriate times and places. I would tell them they need to learn how to flirt and drive attraction. I don't show up to play Magic the Gathering and refuse to shuffle, untap, upkeep, and draw. If you're going for a romantic relationship, the rules are different and you have to play that game. Failure to do so is not being agreeable even if it's not aggressive...often the men struggling in the way you mention don't know how to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:51 PM
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They could be if they're the whole I want a man that makes a million or is 7 feet tall...but then the answer is just don't go for that kind of crazy bitch. I don't think most social/interpersonal requests can be unreasonable in that way. They're just something a person doesn't want to do...which is fine, but that's a choice, right? You could choose to meet those expectations, it may be difficult or extremely uncomfortable, but you could. Again, I think a lot of this is just people who aren't adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:47 PM
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The reason is market forces. Despicable and annoying women can often find a man to tolerate them...the reverse is less often true. This is also in great part because women like this are still out in the community socializing. Men less so. I don't think women can be blamed for this...that's your homies being desperate causing this market force. I get the irritation, but we're giving effective advice...if I tell a disagreeable anti-social man don't change queen, I'm dooming him to never finding an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:44 PM
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In my experience, platitudes, especially the bland ones, often exist because they are true and useful if you get out of your own way. And the reason they don't find it helpful is because it is the very thing they do not wish to do or will not do long enough for it to be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:39 PM
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Fair enough. I believe it exists, just not in great number
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:05 PM
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This says women were consuming written porn...which is what I said. We call that erotica. Women aren't watching traditional porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:54 PM
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I've told female friends they have to change too...usually not right as the relationship is failing, but you know, after when they've been single and the wound isn't fresh, I've certainly been like: how are we not doing this again. And I have a friend right now I'm trying to figure out how to tell her that if she wants to have that attitude and that much debt she has to stop being fat especially if she wants some manly fix it trad con guy when she's this close to the wrong side of thirty. But it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:52 PM
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A man has to be good looking enough to sell this is the problem, generally speaking. You can't be entirely beastly is kind of a big takeaway from this. Something has to sell beyond the tragic backstory. A tragic backstory can take you far, but not if you look awful too. And as you mention, you really have to be pretty shameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:48 PM
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Absolutely. Although they're generally more social, they just think too highly of themselves and not highly enough of the men surrounding them. And a lot of what they need to change is to be more pleasant and see the good things in the men around them that are immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:39 PM
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What stats would you like? I've been friends with many men, I've probably actively helped about 5 with the dating and finding relationships process. Success in this case would be a long term relationship and they seemed happy with the women they were with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:38 PM
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They aren't getting it for free...they're worthy of getting it easier because they have other tangible and intangible values paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:02 PM
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Men are presumed to watch porn because the overwhelming majority do. It's harder to find a man who doesn't, needle in a hay stack. Most women don't, it's hard to find ones that do, needle in a hay stack. I'm not stigmatizing it, I'm reporting what we know. A few billion clicks really isn't a lot in the grand span of humanity with 24 hours in a day. We're talking about a very small amount of women doing the majority of the clicking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:48 PM
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Again, I think a lot of unpleasant and unattractive women are willing to bow out gracefully....men not so much which tends to cause men to have to be willing to go even lower than seems reasonable...or also bow out. I see a lot of men with chubby women treating them really well. I think the male capacity to desire intimacy at almost any cost especially with an inferior knows fewer bounds than most men readily admit....including attractive and successful men. And, people often prioritize short te…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:46 PM
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Most young women aren't going to be attracted to older men compared to their more similarly aged peers (please note, 1-4 years isn't older in most cases in the sense being used). The ones who will be interested in this dynamic may not be super impressed by the money of the man, but it's still likely more than their same aged peer would be making. The thing is this is likely to generate a very short term dynamic that won't be good for an insecure man...because everyone wants her...not everyone wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:21 PM
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Fair enough. I agree I am making an assumption about them on that front. It is an assumption I think reality proves, but, I accept if the fact I'm willing to make that judgement pisses some people off because they see exceptions. It is important to say: I don't think the deep seated fantasy is their problem. Their problem is being beastly sad bois. The thing that prevents them from reckoning with this is the fantasy. And in my experience, if you want them to address the beastly sad boi thing, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:16 PM

No such thing as deserve. You either have a maiden or you don't. If you don't, try the rock trolls because it seems likely your maiden is not in another castle because you aren't prince charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:06 PM

There's always the bad ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:55 PM

I don't think someone else having to be physically and emotionally vulnerable with you and putting themselves at risk for STDs, pregnancy, social shame, and without even the promise of a good time should be an easy thing. Frankly, it's sort of amazing it happens at all when you think of it like that. I personally never did casual sex and I had entire relationships without sex until my husband. I get the siren call of sex, but the risk just doesn't outweigh the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:52 PM
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I don't see the contradiction, perhaps you could explain it more clearly for me. I actually wasn't ascribing a very deranged worldview about women in this case. I think the fantasy which most men have at some point and varying levels of this all accepting, all nurturing sort of like a mother, but not exactly woman that will absorb willingly all their behaviors and who sees past their sort of beastly and disagreeable nature to the disney prince inside. A sort of companion to this fantasy is of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:36 PM
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The right answer is often simple, but not easy nor enjoyable. That doesn't change the truth nor efficacy of it. If you're fat, eat less and work out more is correct....doesn't make it easy nor enjoyable advice to hear. And to be clear, no one likes compromising or altering themselves for others and all of us feel like this stuff is intrinsic to us...but it rarely is that intrinsic, we're just being selfish and stubborn. There are many alterations I've made in order to be compatible with and able…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:22 PM
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This is a very common rescue cat type, yes. My parents have one like this. Lovely, but you have to really be dedicated to keep this kind of cat because it's not often super rewarding on the face of it. They're harder to love more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:16 PM
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I think most people really trying to improve do this. I think of it like trying to assemble a healthy diet...not all of the advice will fit me exactly, but the concepts are useful and can be assembled to fit my unique circumstances (how I work-out, how much I sleep, my hormones, my allergies, likes/dislikes, what is in season, and my goals).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:34 PM
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Happy Early Valentines, Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:32 PM
4

I know. I'm well aware much of this loneliness crisis on an individual scale (obviously there are systemic factors) is really a disagreeable loner who wants to be left alone, but not be alone crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:25 PM
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The men who have taken my advice have succeeded. So empirically I'm convinced of it. Am I open to the possibility that there are exceptions that prove the rule? Sure. That's why I'm glad there's plenty of advice out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:24 PM

Right. And when we're having that I will agree with you. Nothing listed above struck me as mental diarrhea. It mostly struck me as "things people who are struggling will not want to hear or know how to enact usefully despite the fact they are in fact the right answer".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:22 PM
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Advice can be specific or general. I'm happy to give specific advice if someone will give me enough specific data on them. If not, general advice is generally given and then it is up to the individual to determine how it applies...and therein the devil is...very often we aren't reliable to self-reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:21 PM
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I'm a woman that gives advice to men and I'd never say they don't take it because they hate women. They don't take it because it's difficult to enact, slow to yield results, and often requires the sacrifice of some very deeply held fantasies and ideals about women. Everyone I know telling you to go with the flow is assuming your flow includes community, close friendships, and many interactions with the opposite sex. We'll all tell you to change your lifestyle if this isn't the case...the problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:01 PM
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I've seen it before. It comes from a weird place of both fetishizing and feeling insecure about. Only the human mind, right? I dunno, I don't know many women myself included that watch or like porn. Reading erotica, sure, but the visual medium...not really our thing. I'm sure they exist, I think this is just more of a unicorn thing than most guys are comfortable realizing. Honestly, the only women I've ever known to watch porn were straight women watching lesbian porn...and even they weren't doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:57 PM
1

I don't think anything is on anyone. I'm a libertarian, baby girl. I think men are entitled to the sweat of their brows and can kindly choose anything they want so long as it doesn't infringe upon another sovereign being. However, I can analyze say the romantic dating sexual dynamic like a transaction or trade. And it's pretty obvious wood for sheep requires a lot more wood than sheep to be a good deal for sheep. Women's power if you want to call it that is that in the bargaining process their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:39 PM
1

I've only been with my husband. I met him when I was 25 and he was 29 at a Martial Arts gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:54 PM
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You know straight porn is watching another dude fuck a woman, right. Most straight men have seen more penises than I've seen vaginas. And they got off to them apparently. That's right, most men are a little gay. Or wait is it that most of you are cucks? I gave lesbian porn a chance once because I found straight porn so violent, degrading, and gross. I give it to lesbian porn, it is less violent and often less degrading....it's still gross tho. I think most women aren't into porn period. They jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:51 PM
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They can, it's less assured and let me throw you a bone, that's not always the man's fault. There's literally just times in a month where sex doesn't feel very good for a lot of us due to hormonal factors and where our cervix is located. You can communicate like it's an Aaron Sorkin script and it still feels neutral at best. I think people keep misunderstanding me: I'm not saying men have to do anything. There's no prescription here, there's analysis of the baseline dynamic between men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:46 PM
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Something between? You know each other decently well (consistent interaction over a few months at least) and there's always been at least a mildly flirty undercurrent or energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:40 PM
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O_O I truly cannot imagine thinking the beginning stage of a relationship is sex. God every time I read this place I'm so glad to be married. I hope I die first just so I don't have to date again. It's so fucking exhausting to try to be treated as a human and not a pocket pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:01 PM
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Right, but I had to intentionally go outside to meet my husband, be flirtatious, and a whole other number of intentional actions to make things happen. This isn't in the face of the spontaneous fate...it's giving fate a helping hand. You put yourself in a position where fate doesn't have to work so hard to help you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:42 PM
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I'd say most of those women are hoping slinging puss gets the LTR...which it often does so...yeah, this would fit. They're trying to lock down a man worth fucking by fucking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:54 PM
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Having sex without something in return or sense of safety is clearly foolish as a woman. Nothing to do with body count really. Sounds to me like there's some sort of bargain involving LTR for Sex, huh? Traditionalists may have been onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:44 PM
1

I think most people will age like fine wine presuming they take care of themselves (which most won't). I think of it as a second window of opportunity for anyone who maybe wasted or just wasn't it in their twenties provided they hustled during that time. I don't think it's going to result in most men getting young hotties, although this will happen in some unlikely cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:33 PM
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Everyone values stability more as they age. Everyone goes for exciting, glamorous, but unstable things when younger. Men in the pillsphere treat this like it is a uniquely feminine thing or somehow uniquely insulting to men. I married a reformed rake, I'm not out here having some complex that he used to make bad decisions and finally smartened up to be with a solid person. And if, by some miracle, someday he cheats or leaves, I won't assume this is some sign he never valued me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:13 PM
3

Those are likely bots or onlyfans. Hardly the average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:03 PM
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I don't think most women are taking poised and polished photos to get simps, dude. They just want to look good and put their best foot forward especially when the context is dating especially when we're beaten over the head that men are visual and when we know that no matter what they say, they prefer this image to reality and that being that put together and hot is a huge determining factor in what sort of suitors you attract. With that said, is there some critique to be made of people becoming…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:05 PM
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Strange men approaching me doesn't yield a relationship or really anything besides a headache. Guy friends is the only way here and generally that's sort of a mutual thing, isn't it? Like we both figured out we liked each other and wanted to take the next step. It kind of fell out of the sky for both of us after we both pursued a friendship and it bloomed into more/ we both flirted and thought the other was cute but gave it a chance to morph into what it would become. This advice is basically do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:53 PM
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O_O I'm not even going to dignify this one it's so out of left field. Happy Valentines Day Early!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:45 PM
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I think everyone does better in dating if people are appropriately self-satisfied. This is to say, they will do best if they are aware of their virtues/vices, pros/cons, and have a solid sense of what/who they are and who/what would be most interested in that. The problem with targeting everyone is you rarely end up hitting anyone because love/romance/attraction is specific, not general. I don't agree this is a male specific phenomenon to be desperate and insecure...I've seen it in all the gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:08 PM
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The part where pilled folks forget hypergamy means ACROSS and up. Emphasis on ACROSS. Across is the most likely outcome. Up is not the most likely outcome. Most baristas are not getting DMs from NBA players, they're getting DMs from ex high school second string basketball players. You are competing with the same goons you were in high school and middle school and your local bar scene. Not fucking Drake. Those men who were failing then are either failing now or in many cases succeeding now that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:49 PM
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You aren't secure in a relationship because you aren't secure in yourself. And look, we all have times we aren't secure in ourselves for a whole multitude of reasons...but it sounds like this is something consistent for you. I do think therapy can help, but I also think writing may help quite a bit. You need to get to the bottom of why you think these things about yourself and I get you have this inner voice you've personified that says these nasty things to you...but at some point when the voic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:43 PM
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I don't usually take advice from people who have never had a happy relationship...or a relationship at all. The people who accuse others of simping aren't generally living it up on the relationship front. Don't let their sour grapes poison your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:57 AM
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It doesn't count because a cock doesn't guarantee pleasure and comes with a myriad of risk factors. A cunt counts because it does guarantee pleasure and comes with fewer (if any) risk factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:56 AM
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LTR doesn't matter in this case to the initial deal for sex being shitty for women. The financial benefit (which I question) only sets in if there's a LTR, which is a big if. And that benefit is often not high enough to outweigh the cost. And, it must be said, the majority of men do not have access to casual sex....so, it is a good deal in reality which is where we live for the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:55 AM
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I think you're not hearing me: The prospect for dating for a man regardless of outstanding factors surrounding the woman (weight, personality, skills, job, finances) is the prospect of near guaranteed pleasure, near guaranteed safety both physically and sexually...on this alone, a man starts out ahead on the deal and a woman starts out behind. Thus, a woman pairing up with her relative equal in terms of outstanding factors (see above) would be to her detriment because her basic deal is unlikely …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:52 AM
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Do I think more men should deliberately become dangerous criminals in order to be a beneficial proposition? No. But if I thought like you do...I would think that a somewhat obvious solution...don't you? Gangmax, brother. It isn't therefore harder to date a woman...you're getting what you want for a fair price. Women are steak, you're turkey burger. Steak doesn't need much to be awesome, turkey burger needs a lot to be awesome. People who want steak aren't more desperate nor more interested...the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:58 AM
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One third of this argument would change, but it would just morph. If you must insist women prefer dangerous men (which I don't necessarily agree with), then I can just as easily bolster the argument by suggesting most men aren't dangerous and thus have less to offer which only makes points 2 & 3 stronger. So the overall argument remains fairly intact, I'd just have to what...admit 33% of it has to lightly alter to continue proving men aren't as good a proposition in the eyes of women and that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:32 AM
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I mean, I'm married, but if I wasn't, he has my curiosity. And I've always been a born curiosity killed the cat sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:29 AM
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I just ask him if he's a vampire. How honest he is will determine my decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:40 PM
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It seems a little relevant to making it difficult to date. Even if I accept what you're saying applies to most women, which I don't, I can just turn it around on you and say women want dangerous men and most of you aren't right? Like this thing always cuts both ways and that's always amused me. Right, but then you're agreeing with me this isn't about women being less interested per say, the proposition they receive is less interesting than men. Women aren't uniquely bored by the proposals they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:21 PM
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There were many different mechanisms to force them in place. Being iffy on something ain't the same as never wanting to do it...it just means being iffy. Ya need some convincing or something to remove the above issues or make the danger worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:09 PM
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We all go different places in the heat of the moment xD Also I've got this wicked knot in my neck and shoulder that makes that one of the less difficult spots for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:05 PM
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Let's assume there's some truth to the concept that having less interest in interpersonal dynamics offers a sort of soft power. You've yet to consider WHY women have less interest and that why is fairly revealing and complicates your perspective. Men are more dangerous Sex is more dangerous and less pleasurable Generally speaking the below to average man offers less on basically all dating fronts (this is the most debatable of my statements) In other words, is this whole thing lopsided in favor …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:07 PM
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How do I say this delicately....aw fuck it: If he can't get on his knees once to show his love for me because it's some humiliation ritual, fella has just told me all I need to know about how he thinks of me getting on my knees. So ok, you got us. I'll go tell my husband I'm done with oral cuz it's so humiliating and meant to subliminally prep me for the drudgery of married life. We can't go back and change the past, but we can ensure a brighter future, right? Ladies, the men have spoken. They w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:03 PM
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O_O You know most of us ladies appreciate when our man is generous to others including women, right? We see it as a green flag about his character being socially attuned, kind, and thoughtful. I think the 1 for 1 you're looking for would be our man going out looking like a snack or revealing those juicy juicy forearms. And herein is the answer you're seeking: visual access to me is not exclusive to the relationship and any man who thinks so needs to either find a woman who agrees or keep on walk…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:54 PM
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Ask yourself why we insult others...to hurt them. (Please note, what I'm about to say is just a rational process. I try to avoid insulting others and if I did, calling them a virgin even if I knew it would work is near the bottom of my list simply because it feels too easy on this forum). What is the best way to hurt someone? Well, there's lots, but something they're likely insecure about has to be near the top of the list. Do I have to think their insecurity is valid in order to insult it? No. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:07 PM

I can only tell you how I'd think of it. I dunno what you posted or how you posted it. I think often men posting come with a tone of hostility (even misread hostility). Ya know, the difference between: I'm so sad, I've been to 9 dating events and none of the men were interesting to me & I went to 9 dating events and all the women were fat ugly sluts. Not saying you did that, just saying my experience of listening to men and women complain about an inability to find someone has often been a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:49 PM
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I'm like half with you...the single thing yeah, sure. I think mostly that hand is overplayed because I think men could also be happier single if the other option is an unhappy marriage, much like women. I think they just have a few more decades of growing pains until that is accurate. I don't think women are uniquely good at singledom. But the rape thing...I think you're stretching, not because you're wrong, but because there's no version of me that would rape anyone if I knew I wouldn't get cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:45 PM
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It really isn't a dickish way to think. It's juvenile and it's hurt because they're hurting and they are in the early phases of introspection. They don't think women are prizes for men, they can't figure out why a bully is liked by anyone, but especially not the girl they're in love with who they probably see a lot of good things in and this is dissonant to that image. And then they feel like they've heard that women like heroes and not villains and they're stuck in this black and white world an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:35 PM

I mean, for me, I'd say it's because it isn't difficult for me to imagine going to 9 dating events and finding zero of the men attractive nor interesting. And I'd think the same if a man made the post, honestly. I'd be like: yeah, what are the chances you find someone, pretty low. It's another day of normal. I've typically gone anywhere from 1-3 years between each relationship....so it stands to mathematical reason that I'd been to way more than 9 places with men I could date and found none wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:24 PM
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Finally I get the chance to do the real work on PPD. I'm well aware of the lyrics of the song, she's attracted to a man and is clearly aware of the price it will cost her to have him. The song is clearly playing with devil and angel imagery as well as the concepts attached. The line about waiting below is an allusion to the classic balcony style scene given the references to windows - she wants him to declare his love. And in that we find him courting her, he's the devil rolling his dice and she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:03 PM
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I am well aware you did not. It is the definition being peddled to basically call all women prostitutes (y'all wish we were that cheap) and/or denigrate relationships by those not in them. The only definition which is correct/appropriate: the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:52 PM
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I am well aware of that, yes. I didn't say more prone, I said more opportunities presented and that bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:50 PM
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There are dozens of us on purple pill xD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:48 PM
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That's because you're purposefully inventing a definition that is neither denotated nor connotated in order to serve an opinion that basically all relationships are prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:44 PM
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The song isn't about how there's no rules when a woman's emotions feel overwhelmed. She's singing a song about this tumultuous situationship between opposites that are denying different things and how it hurts her. The line no rules in breakable heaven is her being dismissive of the connection....and the description of the rest of the lyrics suggest a very toxic and chaotic courtship...but there is a courtship. I always say men should listen to our music, but now I'm thinking that may not help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:24 PM
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Prostitution is obtaining financial gain through sex without liking or caring for the other person and the entire interaction being caused by and dependent on a one way exchange for each party (the man only gets sex, the woman only gets money). Relationships are not misdirection nor are they ceremonial. They are a mutual exchange of multiple factors between two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:12 PM
2

Could you tell me which part of Taylor Swift you're referencing? Cuz I'm not seeing it exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:05 PM
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No, they're not. I'm not quite sure how to put this: Prostitution = trading service for good without requiring any emotional attachment and in fact typically there is a negative perception from the woman to the man. The sex had is transactional in nature and prioritizes the buyer exclusively. Relationships = Requiring a positive emotional attachment and positive perception between the parties as a baseline followed by seeking other forms of attachment including a survival one which would include…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:01 PM
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I'm with you for the first two....but after that it's just not mathing. You weren't engaged in sex for payment. You were engaged in a relationship in which you had expectations for a partner who was capable of taking care of themselves financially with the potential to eventually care for you financially while you care for them and likely shared children domestically. The selection of men based on gifts or cars or what have you is not exchanging sex for money. It's choosing who you relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:40 PM
1

I don't think most men (especially young men) are as comfortable in their bodies as you think. I think if you spend like a month here, you're going to see they have nightmare mode insecurity over their height, their dick, their muscles, their jawlines, their face, their weight, race, and hairline in measures equal to that of women. To the degree you are correct, I think it is best explained by the fact their body doesn't really betray them or do things they don't like in the way our bodies do as…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:17 PM
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I'm going to say this very simply. The community I was raised in was a very big nerd community (think hundreds of young and middle aged men). When I was 13, one of those men started talking to me in ways that even then I knew was a bit inappropriate, but I was blind to it because this sort of crassness was normalized within that space. By the time I was 18, this man was very trusted and dear to me and I was used to the casual sexualization of conversation. So when I tell you that this man raped …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:16 PM
1

All of life is a resource management game (time, attention, money) showing what things you do and don't value. You clearly do not value dating, socializing, or hobbies very highly. (I am not saying that critically). You value your career, working, sleeping, and earlier retirement (again, not judging). Now, is this a requirement? Are you ill-fated? Is there no other option for you? Did society force you to live like this? No. You are freely choosing to manage your resources in this way. You could…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:06 PM
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So, in point of fact for a lot of people who have never been in a long term romantic relationship, it's difficult for them to imagine that only about 5% of it is taken up in the ooey gooey mushy romantic or sexual stuff. Why? Because that's what they desperately want and think sets the relationship apart. It's genuinely difficult to imagine that much more significant portions are the quiet intimacy of getting along like you might with a best friend and the even more boring, yet lovely companions…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:55 PM
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I can't say the women I know do so, but, I can admit we've all had a moment here or there bitching about creeps or the guys we do kind of want but they're being trash and it's hard to take the trash out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:15 PM
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Dude, let the men QQ. Men deserve to cry into bath tubs to Taylor Swift as much as we do. The internet is their bath tub. This is just the You Belong With Me song written in internet speak. They don't think not committing crimes is praiseworthy or really means girls should like them. They're just upset that one didn't and having a QQ about it. We've all been upset about that girl who wears short skirts and we wear t-shirts. LET THE BOYS BELLYACHE.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:04 PM
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I'm not sure every single insecurity or disappointment with the body is the same as dysphoria. I think people don't know what dysphoria is anymore. But also, I wouldn't do gender affirming care on the taxpayer dollar so.... I'm going with no, but if men start offing themselves over not having hair in droves we'll revisit this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:56 PM
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I get it. Having known a lot of overweight women, they can be a handful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:52 PM
0

I dated a bi-guy and found out it wasn't for me for the values and compatibility reasons. I've yet to meet a vanilla, conservative bi-dude. I guess if I did, and wasn't married, sure. But I kind of doubt the existence, ya know. And I think I sort of want a dude who is only into women because I don't want to deal with the greater number of people he could be attracted to or feeling like I'm only half of what he likes. But I could be open to learning that's not how this particular dude thinks. I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:52 PM
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No, it's just connecting LGBTQ+ identity with being more sexually open, experimental, and on a journey because there's a lot of encouragement within that sub-culture to be. I can only honestly speak to my experience that bisexuality didn't influence my view of his masculinity since he (and most of the bi-guys I've ever interacted with) were already kind of twinkish and blended masculine and feminine features. So that wasn't the turn off for me. It really was the level of open and very diverse se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:48 PM
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I think the reason you can't find it, is because it's just kind of not there in the majority of cases. I don't think most women (even us conservatives) think of bi-dudes as feminine. I think we think of them as sort of rightly chaotic and unstable given the addition of options, messaging from queer communities, and generic youthful rebellion all youth get...and that's scary to young women for a variety of reasons and older women for a different variety of reasons. But I don't think most have thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:22 PM

I get accused of biphobia regularly in my interactions with the manosphere...never minding that I dated a bi-man for a long time. My no longer wanting to date bi-men is a result of experience and different thoughts that have nothing to do with disgust or hate, but rather represents an incompatibility and fundamental mismatch of values and desires that I think would mean a bi-guy wouldn't want to date me. Has this stopped me having lots of bi-guy friends I support? No. Has it stopped me thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:14 PM
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I don't think I can really debate this because it's pretty true. If I didn't have to have them or raise them, just show up and have fun I too would be like "sure, let's just keep pumping them out". With that said, I do think this isn't fully fair to the fact that a lot of this is culturally/religiously motivated in the past. You needed more kids to run the farm and infant/childhood mortality was simply higher. So both men and women wanted more kids because you kind of knew you were going to lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:53 PM
3

I think as annoying as many nice guys are (and they are often quite annoying), I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say most of them fit my mental "asshole" archetype. They're a little too immature and pathetic to fit the mold. And they're not often really doing anything all that bad. They're well, as the lingo goes QQing. They're having a bitch and a moan...which I'm pretty sure is way better than criminality, abuse, or you know being just like an awful jerk. And like...are they having a little too…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:39 PM
2

I always find this topic so tiresome because it's so obviously ludicrous when gender-reversed. My husband looks like an absolute unit and snack in most outfits, especially if he dresses even moderately sharply. We're talking a flannel and some cologne, stop it, he's too handsome. The only t-shirts he owns fit him like Athena herself wove it in a contest to make a mortal look silly. Do you think I have ever even once in my entire life thought it would be ok to tell him to change to keep the harlo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:27 PM

Divorce happens all the time, I don't think it happens because wives get educated or get better jobs unless she was never into him in the first place which rarely happens and can, I would say, rather easily be vetted for (although obviously con artists and sociopaths do exist and get through even the best filters). I don't think using men happens near so much, although again, it DOES happen. But most often, what you have is two young people who don't know themselves very well yet and don't reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:17 PM
0

Oh for sure, I think many many people aren't comfortable with the concept that someone was playing with the idea of interest in them and then decided against it. It just didn't quite hit right or feel right. And so long as this done in a certain gentle way....that's fine and not playing with someone's head especially if you're relative strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:10 PM
1

Just discuss what you would want sexually if sex were to occur. That's a fantastic way to figure out if you're compatible without having to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:56 PM

Maybe: I think it's more likely: Birth control Later rates of coupling up Reduced poverty in certain ways Increased education for women Increased financial pressures Greater importance placed on politics in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:51 PM
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It's not freeloading if it's investing in our shared financial future...which it is. Imagine he lost his job, should I immediately divorce him because he's now freeloading off of me? How long should I give him to find a new job before I kick him to the curb? Or do I just make him sleep in the yard until he gains employment? Or do I just remind him several times daily he's on mama's bank roll and a slug. So you're married, but you don't trust your wife to be around other people alone with free ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:48 PM
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There are no guarantees and tomorrow isn't promised on any of this, especially if alcohol or other substances may be involved. This is why I personally recommend looking at who the human is (what is their personality...they more they lean warm, bubbly, and extroverted the more I assume it's just how they are with everyone), how they treat others (again, are they doing this to other people around them or is it just you), and looking for repetition (are they regularly touching you in these places)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:30 PM
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He had gone to the army as planned in order to secure a better life for them both? Literally nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:35 AM
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My short cripple king is gonna slay mad puss. Stay mad and by that I mean mentally unwell
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:57 PM
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I know pretty well about having both. So I think I have more insight than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:32 PM
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Happily Commited > Single Unhappily Committed < Single Even unattractive women aren't lying about the math. They're just longing for the top option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:06 PM
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Oh sweetie, I've got a major disability too that I can pass along. I'm rolling the dice everywhere. If he ends up disabled it'll be on me too. I already got over the disability thing, you think height bothers me think again. No, he won't. He'll have friends and family. So not alone. Just possibly unfucked. I want life for my kid. Life is a difficult, but beautiful place. Life is better than no life. I'm sorry if you're shallow enough to think the only life worth having is if you're perfect. Us i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:24 AM
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Dude, if a man talked to me like I've seen that kind of woman talk, he wouldn't have front teeth. That's toxic. The fact it's returned doesn't make it better. A more gun oriented version of FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:53 AM
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I'm about 5 feet tree tall and hope I'm blessed with a son and a daughter someday. What you can do and I say this with so much malice is deal with it. Life is worth living even if you're a short man and you may quote me on that. I don't mind some sad human on the internet thinking me wanting kiddos is hubris.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:49 AM
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Nice try, ATF. I've seen all kinds of women obviously...but the ones I see most men like fit what I described more than cut and dry take no shit. The only people I've seen putting up with that are smarmy NYC guys. God knows why, they seem to love having a woman verbally abusing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:52 AM
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Thank you. Ahhh, that makes way more sense now. I sort of see what you mean. I dunno, maybe it's that I've seen too much hiring, but technical skills are the tip of the iceberg. Most employers have a character profile they want too. I think, it kind of depends on the woman what will be the most important, ya know. Similar to a company, if you've got mostly mediocre, but pleasant humans...you may be in the market for a gaping asshole that has a competence level of over 9000 and does the work of 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:51 AM
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I'm northern 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:17 AM
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I really don't think the skills are different, I think the expectations of how and the degree to which they're deployed alters particularly given how life seasons tend to change and how comfortable people feel communicating their needs changes. And, I think everyone (especially when young) goes into relationships thinking the other person will change easily or will know when it's time to change...and they don't. I don't think women make it difficult with their advice, I think people in general d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:59 AM
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You can dislike anything you want. Personally, I've never been the greatest at being a girly girl because it takes committing a lot of energy to appearances in a way I'm bad at. The problem is when you need to put other women down for enjoying those things and derive your entire identity from being not like other girls. That's just sad honestly. Like, enjoy what you enjoy, but when it seems like what you enjoy is being better than and putting others down, that's when the problem arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:48 PM
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Babies shift priorities and are meant to. Children as well. It's important to prioritize your marriage or commitment as well, but ultimately if push comes to shove the helpless baby wins. I think the only times this is a problem is when either party sees childcare as beneath them or something that can easily be planned or expects recovery from pregnancy and childbirth to be as easy as a skinned knee. And I think there's some sort of psychological phenomenon where a certain sort of man who saw th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:38 PM
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No, I know not like other girls. I'm saying this take is more chronically online and the abbreviations. The dislike of women who need to put other women and femininity down is pretty typical and fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:33 PM
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GNC? I don't think two x is some feminist thing persay. It's just a collection of toxic women being toxic...political agenda not required nor necessarily encouraged. I think this is sounding like chronically online stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:43 PM
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I think it's entirely possible to find unconditional love in a partner...people just always think that means being together or connection remaining constant. I'll always love my husband for who he is. He's just that to me. But, I can comprehend if he cheated or started hitting me or something else cataclysmically awful....I would have to leave him and not tolerate that. I'd still love him, but I can't abide some things. This isn't a condition on the love, it's a condition on the connection and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:42 PM
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I've not heard of this honestly. Not even sure what an NLOG is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:34 PM
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Put me down for widening gender roles for men. I think the problem when a lot of you say widening is you mean erasing the old ones...and that hasn't happened for women either honestly. We're still expected to be pleasant bubbly ornaments that listen, affirm, and nurture while also being cutthroat monsters capable of high levels of confidence, agency, and provision. I agree that we should expand men's roles so that they too carry even more burdens of glory and utility. I'm lucky to have found suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:35 PM
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All my male friends know who I am on every front. I can't say I've ever said to them directly "you know I fuck my boyfriend/husband" or that I go on dates back when I did. I assumed they're smart enough to know that. I don't think they'd drop me if they "found that out". But then I also think they're my friends, not orbiters trying to buy my love by acting exactly like all my friends act (giving mutual attention, hanging out, joking, sharing info, and small favors). It sounds to me like Jude her…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:32 PM
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I thought Radical Feminism was the death to all men become a political lesbian camp, I mean that honestly. I thought gender abolitionists were just a progressive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:28 PM
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There is no issue. The issue is with the disgust towards the nons. Feminism will never be about forcing men or women to do things they don't want to on an individual scale. Equality of opportunity, not outcome. Sure, critique is allowed, but again, the goal isn't to stop people reinforcing old hierarchies if that's what they want individually and aren't forcing others to participate. It doesn't. It just detaches it from somehow being unacceptable. You're allowed to want virgins or a man who pays…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:59 AM
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I mean, last I checked patriarchy was more or less men dominate and everything is organized around them making life difficult for everyone. And some people think we're past that, but most think we'll never be. And the idea is men and women face different oppression under patriarchy...it's not good to have a boot on your neck or be the boot on someone's neck. And the desire to freely move about in society and have access to multiple modes of gendered living is the best way to combat patriarchy on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:45 AM
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I think people always misconstrue feminism as this pure deconstruction of gender roles...it just isn't quite. The goal of it to my understanding has never been to erase all gender roles, but rather to allow people free choice when and how and which gender roles they take on. Thus the allowance for both stay at home traditionally feminine women and the butchest masculine girl boss imaginable. It's not a transgression of feminist ideals to both want to be non traditional in some ways and tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:01 AM
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I think society expects it already. It just doesn't expect sole providership and I doubt it ever will unless women aren't the ones having the babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:41 AM
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It may, I really couldn't say. I can't imagine why talking about sex would be emasculating. I could imagine boring or gross. Why it would make you feel like shit seems like something deeper with you. Which is absolutely allowed, I'm not saying that mean, but I don't think this is super typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:40 AM
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I'm sure it helps, but I'm telling you in all of these cases, I just needed the man to tell me the details and faith in his character that he's not a liar. It always helps to have things confirmed by outside sources of course, but yeah, I dunno, I think you're digging deeper than I would. I think men can often be total victims and women. And I think often there's Grey area situations where it's like: everyone here is messy boots
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:42 PM
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If you said society or systems of power, I'd fully agree and express my disgust at this. I honestly think a part of the reason the catholic church is still in business is that so so so many of their victims were little boys and they weren't coming forward until they were grown and often old men. But men tell me stuff all the time with a laugh that is clear victim stuff, I don't mean like everyone is the asshole, I mean like molested as kids, physical abuse, violence of lunatic levels, stuff that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:15 PM
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I agree. Friction is reasonable. Cuz they care about it. Imagine a topic you care about...now imagine your friend said "I don't want to hear about that, it's gross and uncomfortable". You'd be hurt. They're enjoying sharing. I don't know why men tell me about cars so much. It's not gratifying to me. Clearly it is to them and I care about them so I listen and try to show interest as best I can given my limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:33 PM
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Sex workers aren't into it. That's why they are paid right. Trust me, these women think you're as disgusting as the man would. And yes, that makes it more dehumanizing than any job. And no, he can't. That's our point. Desire is part of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:31 PM

I don't have to. My side is currently and will continue to win because the truth is on our side because men know it deep down. They just feign this intellectual rigor to pretend otherwise. Stay raping, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:30 PM
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Typical. You know women ain't paying for sex. Nope. It's a dick. Does he want a dick on him? And before you try it, being straight doesn't make women like all dick period or not feel grossed out and violated by one they aren't attracted to. Would he like continuous random dick in his ass and face?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:29 PM
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And? Yes, it's hurtful. Do you think you can tell people you don't want to hear what they care about and they should just be fine with that? Yes, the friendship will take a hit. You told them for any number of reasons not to share with you. That hurts. It's OK it hurts. You have to weigh that and choose what you care about more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:58 PM
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Weird. Go back and ask him if he'd prefer a dick in every hole and come back and tell me what he says. Better yet go ask the female grocery store worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:57 PM
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Not at all the same and everyone knows this. I'm sorry that men need cognitive dissonance to square doing this, but this isn't the same as making a burger on so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:56 PM
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It's them talking to you like a friend. We discuss things with our friends even gross or personal stuff. We don't think of you as a straight friend because the lack of attraction is assumed. And to the degree you're sexually frustrated unless we know and are trying to be delicate with you...we wouldn't even think of it. Use your big boy voice and tell them. And if they're upset that's ok. They are allowed to want to discuss things
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:56 PM
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This is too easy. Building a house and having a man you don't desire put his penis in you is not close to the same. I invite you to prove me wrong: almost everuon3 is willing to bake bread even if it isn't their favorite, same for building houses or doing hair. Almost no one wants a penis in them. You all know this, stop with the intellectualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:53 PM
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If they don't want it, it's not consent. You're paying for silence. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:51 PM
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So, the only way I can think this even half applies to me is that I do enjoy when I'm with my husband turning certain parts of my brain off. I'm a teacher so I'm in charge of people and make decisions like a bazillion times a day. It is really nice on nights and weekends to let my husband decide where we go to dinner, if we get one, two, or zero appetizers, do the majority of our driving (and I love driving), and just generally feel safe and cared for and not have one more person who needs me to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:57 PM
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I love what men consider a need to be even when it requires another person's consent and access to their body. Never gets old. No, the fact you can't buy women is not a sign the world hates men. You've got a right and a left hand. Failing that because your arms have been sadly blown off, they make toys. Release is available. Hump pillows.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:53 PM

I was a virgin until 28 and I can't say I ever encountered this particular issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:31 PM
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I mean, now that I'm married, I can't imagine if God forbid something happened with my husband I'd go for a virgin dude. I'd feel like he kind of deserves to have all those first experiences with someone else who hasn't been through the ringer and been married and all that. He deserves a woman with more similar baggage and fewer miles so to speak. I don't think it's ever a bad thing, I think never having dated or been in a relationship is the issue. The lack of sex isn't the worrying factor at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:57 AM
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Again, abortion comes with a cost too both financially, physically, and emotionally. Simply to have sex comes with risk. Ahh so if we're willing to make the sacrifice of working for it our bodies can go back to how they were pre pregnancy... sounds like more sacrifice built in to me? Oh please this testosterone drop is mild and does not drastically alter the body. Stretch before you reach. Lmao. The draft. The one that hasn't been called in ages and ages and ages and that most women especially f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:20 AM
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If you think it's just 9 months I invite you to learn about the pelvic floor and how it changes hormones and stretches out tummies and breasts and permanently alters brain chemistry. You are simply not being fair or are not educated. The pill sucks, go fish. Abortion still has effects after, again. Go fish. We haven't even gotten to menopause and perimenopause. I love those videos where men get hooked up to pain machines equivalent to an average period. Cracks me every time. Only men can opt out…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:05 AM
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Why is being cruel to people you don't want and would never want for no reason bad. I just can't figure it out. Just don't marry or fuck a slut. Why do you need to broadcast how deplorable you find them to be? Like genuinely why is that necessary? I wouldn't fuck or marry at fat dude. I'm not out here trying to make an anti-fat dude podcast or think piece about how they're less than human even tho it's way easier for a man to be skinny so his failure to do so is more egregious. I just politely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:43 AM
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It depends on why they're coupling up. Generally, I think couples do best when everyone is giving 100% of what they have to give and not treating everything like a market transaction, but rather are doing their best day to day. But if they're going to treat it like a market transaction then this is just a game right. And I think the woman can still argue for more because he'll have a harder time replacing her than vice versa. It's more likely she's also welcome at home than vice versa. And if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:36 AM
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I can't remember what thinker said this so forgive me, but sacrifice is built into women. Our entire being is created as a sacrifice for love to create life. We don't require more sacrifice in order to have meaningful connection whether it be for a man or a child or just the mere having of a menstrual cycle, we are forced to sacrifice in order to be and survive. No one has to teach women this, it's built in. Men have to be taught and unless they die for another, they will never know the level of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:29 AM
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I don't think it's bad behavior. I think most (not all) do not expect strange men to approach us at all. All my years on this earth, I was always a bit shocked by it myself despite how often it happened. Do I think it takes courage to do something other people mostly don't want in hopes of sparking something you want to happen? Certainly. Do I respect or have empathy for that...well no, because again, I wouldn't expect it and I don't think it's a good thing persay. Now when you're known entities…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:30 PM
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I mean, I can understand it hurts feelings and being rejected and feeling like a goblin isn't going to make you feel as tall as a king. I totally understand that. I'm saying the way to get over this feeling is to realize you're not in any actual danger, there's nothing that bad here, it's the equivalent to washing out in a video game. You reload and try again with new tools hopefully from learning how things went badly. She doesn't know you. She hasn't peered inside your mind and seen you're som…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:49 PM

The science suggests the damage to women just isn't there and it's not entirely certain why although they currently suspect it's the type of games women choose to play, their likelihood of not being in the moderate to high dysfunctional use range, and possibly inbuilt temperamental differences and psychological needs being met elsewhere in healthier ways. With that said, I can DM you my paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:43 PM

Well, to make a long story short, and this is a complicated subject, the types of games men choose heighten aggression, have a tendency to teach wielding aggression without being in the realm of consequences which translates badly to real life where there is consequences for aggression, games are more addictive to them due to being more designed to meet certain psychological needs but in unhealthy ways, causes them to develop alexithymia even more so than normal masculine socialization by societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:41 PM

I was explaining that I'm no longer dating so this isn't about me dating. And I'm not a hypocrite, I'm a paradox. Here's my work cited, I should mention, this is by far not exhaustive. I couldn't have begun to have read all the research available and the assignment required I only work with the newest available info: References https://doi.org/10.1007/s10964-024-01973-0 https://doi.org/10.1037/dev0000939 https://doi.org/10.1007/s10964-023-01739-0 https://doi.org/10.1007/s10803-022-05649-1 https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:35 PM

It's not a moral standard nor a belief system. As I suggested, I think it can be done in moderation (clearly), I'm just not interested in finding out especially because I view it as uniquely damaging to men. I'm not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:17 PM

I'm married, dude. I'm off the market. Another gamer girl married to a non-gamer. He gets all my UWU energy. And no, it's not pseudoscience...I actually wrote a paper for my masters concerning the influence of video games on adolescents. And I went into the research process not expecting it to be that bad and in some cases positive. Boy was I blown away by finding the opposite. But hey, I don't really think you want to hear me. I think you want to shriek into the void which is why you're copy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:28 PM

I thought about answering you, but I felt too superior to bother. Happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:00 PM

Well, you'd have to accept that I think everyone needs to feel accomplished and successful in some way in life....and that video games provide the equivalent of junk food for this need. It's an artificial facsimile of the real thing earned through actually doing something worth while. And that's dangerous, maybe especially to men given their object oriented nature. Video games are isolating which isn't generally healthy and when you are interacting it's generally in a very competitive and aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:55 PM

I'm casual at this point. I was hard-core for most of my life. But otherwise you're making assumptions. I've been there, I got the t shirt. It's just not typically a healthy hobby unless you're only doing it when literally nothing else is available or a very small amount a day. It doesn't build anything tangible or much inside a person and the returns are dwindling. It would take awhile to explain all the problems I see and the pitfalls, but for me, at this point, it would be similar to meeting …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:44 PM

I know right. I'm what they call a paradox. 🤣 the flakiest snow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:30 PM

I'd have to think about that more, but my overall instinct is that I've never expected a man to be reading finance bro books. I don't really expect their hobbies to all be productive although some should be similar to how some of mine are. I think it's more about shared lifestyle on one count. On another it's about the ability to be interrupted. On another it's about video games uniquely offering a dangerous sense of accomplishment while nothing has actually been achieved. I don't have a problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:29 PM
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It's rejection with a specific character judgement attached. It really can't do much unless you're like very badly creepy and it gets you kicked out of the place you done been creepin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:23 PM

One day at a time like anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:22 PM

I think not being the one is mutual for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:48 PM

I can understand saying have a conversation and see what kind of gamer someone is...but having dated gamers...yeah, I found it's not for me. And I play video games. And I think I'd warn most women off of dating gamers honestly. I'm glad on a certain level my husband isn't a gamer. It was a real green flag after my experiences. I think like anything it can probably be safe in moderation, but, the older I got, the more I'm not sure I wanted to find out if unlike the vast majority of men this man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:47 PM

I got married last year...we enjoyed dating a lot before that. Don't get me wrong, I've dated some losers, lame ducks, not the ones, and encountered a villain or two in my time...but I don't think most men are destroying anything or awful. They're just not the one, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:36 PM
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I'm pretty fun sized. I'll just sit on his lap and I'm a mouthy bitch so I suspect they'd let me. With that said, I know he would. I don't know if I expect it because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:32 PM
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There's no one size fits all answer. No one can answer this problem. The problem is in the question and the asker itself. This desire to avoid all fuck ups and discomfort is the problem. And I know failing forward works. I've played video games. Consistency almost inevitably delivers success regardless of beginning skill levels. We're learning machines. The idea is if you want to win your audience you need to understand them. You can't do a partnered dance if you don't know the moves your partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:07 PM
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Oh it is for basically everyone. I've done it, I think everyone has and probably will continue to. As for what to do? I mean apologize, retreat, and try again. Don't be too hard on yourself unless this is something happening like every single time...then you probably need to look at your tactics, your presentation, or something, right? It's like asking me what do you do if you keep dying on a video game level the same way....well, I'd recommend trying something new for sure. But if it doesn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:00 PM
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See the answer below. In my limited experience on this planet when we're describing people as decent we're often leaving out compatibility. Or at least, that's what I see in much of the discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:54 PM
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I can agree here. I think part of this is mindset as well: I'm not interested in marrying someone decent because that will likely fail. Both my parents are decent people, but they aren't really compatible and I don't think either of them think the other is amazing and they are miserable together, but won't leave cuz Christian values (their only compatibility hilariously). I'm not interested in being sustainably miserable and tied to another person. It seems like a lot of men are which makes me s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:27 PM
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Failing to read the room. As you've already found, there's a lot of different rooms and some of them are very hard nigh on impossible to read. As for how is a man meant to make a move....not creepily? Better read the room correctly or I guess be good at dealing with being found creepy. I can't tell you how to do all this, what I can tell you is that you need to be able to embrace the female perspective and have empathy for it if you're going to succeed. It should be a voice in your head. And it …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:16 PM
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I'm sure this has happened, don't get me wrong. But, I've been through this the other way where the guy had been being his best self only to let that go later and had been lying about things to win me and then sort of dropped it later thinking I'd love him so much I wouldn't mind. And yeah, I minded it all. I minded the change and letting himself go. On the other side of it, yeah, I mean I didn't love the other dude for who he was, I loved the building blocks of what he could be. I liked who he …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:04 PM
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Men leave all the time. Men that were good partners. The human heart is a chaotic and fickle place. Predicting which Men will stay is a lottery, sure, you can try, but it's hardly assured anywhere. Lmao. So in one breath it's pick better and in the next a covert threat of be pleasant or we'll leave and fuck our kids up. I have a better idea, even if a man leaves the woman, he should remain present and connected to his children. Women manage to rear their children even if they leave the father. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:56 PM
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I always hate when men say women need to drink to hook up... in other words women need to be drugged to have casual sex and heavily so at that. And this is said as a good thing. Only we say it nicer "lower inhibitions" aka drugged aka not in their right mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:44 AM
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You're back to saying fair like women are a resource and not free agents....which again for me is revealing of in a certain sense you don't see women as people...you see them as something to be distributed apparently equally. The word disparity too is gross in this same way. Why isn't it fair to not have to have kids? Men don't. That's not fair. Are you going to solve this unfairness and make men birth bum babies? This privilege...you mean women being free hasn't been allowed so much in human hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:41 AM
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They can...but if you do it in the way above you're going to get the negative reaction I was asked about. Want the stars and fuck them for all I care. But I can tell you why in some cases someone will tell you that's gross and leave the sky alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:29 AM
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They were...for generations and generations and then some more generations. You're living in the answer to your own question: They continued to rock the boat and practice non violent resistance in order to arrive at today. And they're still going because apparently they think there's more ground to cover. And they're still hearing some version of tough luck and life isn't fair. They haven't slowed down as far as I can tell. If you're asking what I find most pitiable, it's that even with the exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:28 AM
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I'm speaking using the broad personality traits. Everyone has aggression and everyone will enact their aggression. Men are disagreeable so they will overtly display aggression and be willing to overtly rock the boat (think uhh Robert Baratheon or Jaime Lannister). Women are agreeable so they will covertly display aggression and be willing to covertly rock the boat while maintaining a mask of agreeability (think Cersei Lannister or Margarey Tyrell). All are aggressive...it's just a flavor profile…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:25 AM
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I've met this type of guy in all corners and well other sub types of guys. And I'll tell you from your other post: the worst, I mean absolute worst offenders were guys who seemed like even tempered nerds. In fact nerds in general were categorically more likely to exhibit this porn brained tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:21 AM
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I'm speaking broadly. I'm sure there's many cases like you say and I'm sure there's many cases where dad works more normally and just isn't very good at being an involved father. Either way the damage is the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:19 AM
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Let's assume I agree that women dating men closer to their equal would be a net positive of society...that isn't what is communicated by saying they aren't being fair. I hope you can see there's a huge difference and I believe it's not an accident: I think there is an adolescent upset here that is correctly being communicated. What you just said about it being better for everyone, that doesn't require some tone of fairness does it? I think humans have worked hard to remove barriers without erect…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:36 PM
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I am always curious about this and I apologize if I ask this badlly: Why do you think it's meant to be objectively fair? Because in my book, I see this rigid and often wild obsession with fairness or equilibrium to be fairly adolescent in nature and I don't mean that badly. I mean it's literally a big component of adolescent maturation to play with a moral compass and be obsessed with fairness...but adults are meant to grow out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:35 PM
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Well said indeed. Even in cases where dad is in the home, if he's distant from the boys especially, I feel it as a teacher. And it's hilarious because often these boys will be a true nightmare to me until they learn I practice martial arts or I really speak to them in a commanding no nonsense (more masculine knock it off) tone for the first time. I hypothesize much like you're gesturing at it's because until that moment they see me as another nagging mommy. But when I suddenly have the posture o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:29 PM
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Tough times make tough people. Easy times make weak people. We've had a lot of easy times for a long time and things are getting tough. I think if you want to address more specifically...well, in not too distant memory, men knew who they were and what people expected them to be and how to do that more or less. With women getting agency (which is rightfully ours and never should have been stripped from us), that mode and role for men has been more or less well, made shaky at best. Nothing is assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:24 PM
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I mean, the only reason a man is in Bath and Body is if he already has a girlfriend or he's gay. Either way, don't pretend straight men go in there. 😂 Look, you're right there's no video game style thing where women who are open to being approached signal it like a Zelda Boss in the N64 Era (hit me in the Gigantic eye with your master sword). And I think you mention seem decent broad rules if you are going to go for it (make it easy to disengage, don't stay too long, etc.) But I think you're mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:50 PM
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They aren't a myth, they're a result of some really predictable factors few of which have anything to do with what a woman's sexual values are and have a tendency towards being relatively rare when you look at the scope of all women. And I don't think women want the best of both worlds, I think women don't want to be degraded by hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:25 PM
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Typically because those men have one and are being hypocrites. Or Typically because those men wish they had one and simply failed to even enact on their desires which is a slightly sadder form of hypocrisy. And finally when those things are not the case because they're jerks about how they say it. Here's how you say you want a girl with a low body count without offending anyone: I would like a girl who is a virgin or sees sex as something special like I do and isn't engaged in hook up culture or…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:30 PM
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Yeah, it's sad because we all as ladies know ladies like this. They're more or less fine people, but they were never a hotsy totsy. And they're comfortable with their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:26 PM
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This is why the moment they say they wanted it I dropped them. Because I knew that was a possibility and I'm not here to get raped or have my consent ignored even for the briefest second.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:23 PM
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I have tried to give you a proper long response, but reddit won't let me. My answer to you was much better than this, but: I think these men are avoiding some really obvious introspection about what it means to be good and what people meant by they'll find someone. I never believe salesmen telling me what I want to hear. I don't think any good person does. By so easily believing an evil lie meant to make them feel better, I think they prove they are not good men. They are fools. A fool cannot be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:54 AM

SIR. MADAM. FRIEND. THESE WOMEN ARE NOT MARRIED. ERGO, THEY OWE THESE MEN FUCK ALL ON THE SUBMISSION FRONT IN EVERY SINGLE CHURCH. ERGO IT IS COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT BEING CONSERVATIVE OR NOT. Secondly, and importantly, churches don't teach that because most of them at this point believe a superior translation is wives support your husbands. Which seems much more in keeping with what you see if you look at Judaism as well. It seems wildly suspicious to read submit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:44 AM
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Dude, this is just good advice regardless of gender. Bravo. And well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:47 AM
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I don't think most relationships grow from hook ups would be a way I'd start out pointing at being brain rotted. Most women don't want to fuck and then find out, that's your brain rot. Most women don't have FWB or flings that's your rot. But as others have told you: the porn brained aspect is about what they want to do in the bedroom or ask for or say they're interested in. And for me, it's icky. Good God, I do not miss dating. I used to brace myself for finding out what the guy wanted in sex be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:28 AM
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The first pitfall is assuming there's some secret code out there. The reality is there's no advice The red pill gives that is not contained elsewhere and in spades. Lots of totally normal content creators talk about dressing better, hygiene, flirting, proximity, and knowing your audience....they just do it without the woman hating, self-aggrandizing, and creating some victimhood narrative...but here's the thing, that's a feature, not a bug of the red pill. When you've been rejected and feel you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:20 AM

Yeah, I was representing another org that worked with other non profits so I was sitting in on their meetings for a minute at the time. They were talking fundraising, UW, and driving recruitment. They were pretty tight lipped about the scandal other than to pr acknowledge it to all of us and then give the basic we're under new leadership and cleaned house speech. I think it's overall good they've opened things up. I know a lot of dads are involved with girl scouts too and I generally think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:14 AM

I'm sure you do, inherently in this thread about boy scouts is me acknowledging male victims. I also acknowledged women can be pedophiles....in about 1/20 of cases. I'm now done with you, fix your heart or frankly God will sort you out. Hopefully into a hell of feminists from which you can never escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:08 AM
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Don Draper didn't get locked down like ever. And I watched that show, I don't think he banged a mid tier ever. 😆 Also, what on earth is this ramble fest. Women being free agents is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:00 PM
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I'm sure this is true of some women. I'm also sure it's true that many of us, as much as we may love a man, will not elect to be in a financial, survival, and child-rearing based relationship if he cannot offer vital needs to that arrangement. I don't think this means we don't love those men. I love many women who I wouldn't share a bank or a child with because they're messy boots. But I think men too readily pat themselves on the back pretending they don't require women to provide things in rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:55 PM
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Nowhere in your article, does it say that. Do you lie as a habit or not read?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:12 PM
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That is not what boy scout leadership felt and I was in those meetings post pandemic. The pandemic led to a boom of nature interest and outdoorsy excitement... The boy scouts weren't seeing that because of the scandals and were working on an image rehabilitation campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:10 PM
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I don't think it. That's what stats and experts say. Dude, we aren't talking about men versus women. Clean your soul out. This is only and exclusively kids. Men are raping more children and you're concerned about winning some pathetic gender war by denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:09 PM
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I'm sure declining interest in the outdoors is somewhat of a factor, but parents often pushed their kids into stuff like this in the past.... Parents stopped when they found out for all purposes it had been a child rape camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:07 PM
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Wait, me giving lack luster guys useful advice that worked wasn't good for them? I'm a lady. Apparently my lady perspective was helpful since it did what none of the dudely advice they'd got could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:05 PM
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I'm sure they are...I'm not convinced they're under reported to that degree buddy. And there is under reporting on both sides especially by boys. I'll tell you anecdotally, every single CSA case I know was committed by a man. Some of these were not reported. I've yet to meet anyone who was molested by a woman, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's a rarity. This is a male problem and everyone in the biz knows it. Based on the data we have, 93.9% of perpetrators are men. Oh boy, you aren't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:18 AM
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They weren't forced. They asked and the men said yes. That ain't force. Have men asked to be included in these women's only spaces in a genuine way? Lmao. Men only lonely. Women never lonely. I've got a solution...go join the lady groups and do the group activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:13 AM
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Why were they desperate for members....was it the child rape? The child rape men failed to prevent? You know what's wildly interesting....how often male exclusive spaces involving children become hotbeds of child sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:10 AM
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It's not slaying, it's a reality. I sat in on a meeting with our local boy scouts chapter when I was in non profit work. They were trying to rehabilitate the boy scouts image following pedophilia scandals...and part of that process was admitting girls because their recruitment was down badly and they felt having more parents involved in the form of mothers would instill confidence. And for the record, 93% of confirmed child SA is done by men. Yes, female petos exist and they should be buried und…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:02 AM
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What's the sexism? Men invaded Iran and committed brutalities and oppressions too monstrous to detail here....And women apparently have gone rogue and taken over a woodworking club while heavily armed. Equality. Were there beheading videos? What's the torture situation? Is it located under a boy's school so tactical strikes aren't available. Did the women throw acid on faces? Are these male woodworkers forced to wear head coverings and trash bags so their sexy sexy bodies don't tempt ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:53 AM
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Every man I've ever given dating advice to in person got the girl they were interested in to at least go out with them several times and in one case it formed a long term relationship. And I didn't have to gut punch them to get them there. Same for the women in my life by the way. You can affirm and criticize. Frankly, it's the ideal way to learn anything educationally speaking. You can't just break someone down or they'll fold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:27 AM
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Are you telling me women in the UK obtained weapons and guns which are illegal in order to invade and hold hostage a wood working club? Because I'd watch that movie all day. All day. Let's fucking go. Feminism finally got some balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:22 AM
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I couldn't tell you. None of them were married obviously. That's kind of the topic.... Most (not all of the churches) aren't at that level of traditionalist? Certainly the one I worked at wasn't being methodist. Conservative values in this case mostly meant christian faith, conservative politics, and some basic gender norms surrounding provisions, protections, and child rearing. Huh. Go figure. I have to ask since this is the third time you've interrupted a topic to randomly bring up your own un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:16 AM
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I think they think I'm tooling on men and I'm really not with this one. I'm conservative, I just see the downfall potential of this line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:04 PM
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Oh, I agree. I think the problem is a lot of these men are being told they'll be default leaders of households, women are to submit to them, women are made of men not of God, and a lot of other main character energy talking points that never drive at the point they're meant to be competent or great because much like original sin, they were born superior to someone else and now they just have to like collect the reward of having a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:02 PM
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The guys who say the first part want to be desired sexually based on their physical form and nothing else (so not how romantic they are, not how they behave, not their humor, and certainly not their jobs). Depending on the state of the man's body this is either a valid ask or a completely outrageous pipe dream they need to get the fuck over. This is somewhat dependent on how the woman they are courting works too. A lot of women don't feel inherent desire, they only feel responsive desire. A lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:23 PM

No thank you. I prefer the model where each party is giving 100% of what they have to give day in and day out. No one's job is more or less important because let's be real, in this economy everyone works. And I'm not interested in destroying my career when divorce is always possible and then I'll have to provide for myself and any children we may have. It's both of our home so we both take care of it and discuss the care and keeping of it. He cleaned it before me and god forbid he'll clean it af…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:14 PM
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They do if they're consistent...these guys were not consistent. Trust me, the church tried to use some of them sometimes. It was a nightmare. They weren't dating period. This was a struggle. The church guys weren't dating because of how relatively unattractive they were even to the conservative women who would have fit with their political/moral beliefs because they weren't attractive to those women./ They weren't wearing concealer, dude. You're just shrieking at this point and being irrational.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:11 PM
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They had jobs at all...so they were inherently making more money. In the cases where the men did have jobs, I mean I'm guessing here because it's not like I sat them each down and did an excel sheet, but yes, most of the guys were working part time jobs in grounds keeping or construction. So the girls who were working full time in fast food or post college jobs were making more money either from more hours or better jobs. I dunno on the cheating front, the men weren't attracting girls so I suspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:00 PM
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I couldn't say. The women I was comparing them to were hard working, more faithful, and marginally to way better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:42 PM
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I think there's probably some level of truth here in that if you can't accept rejection....well sales isn't for you and as Joe Rogan says every man is born a "shady cum salesman". And you're probably right if you aren't prepared to be judged for your choices and get through that process mostly emotionally intact and having learned what signs to avoid that sort of cruelty...well dating and life is unlikely to be for you. You're probably more right about the men than the women given that well, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:07 AM
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I worked in a church part time during school and it was rare to see anyone young there, but inevitably all the young ladies I saw far out-paced the young men in practically all imaginable ways besides perhaps appearance. There's a real problem, I think in conservative circles and especially religious ones with coddling young boys and young men into arrested developments. The built in assumption they will have a mommy for life does them no favors. The young men who joined were typically recoverin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:59 AM
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I'm not sure I fully agree. I think the problem I've seen isn't with having enough conservative gals (I know many conservative gals that are single)....It's well....the conservative men who want to date them aren't what I'd call truly traditional or well, they aren't much of a prize so to speak. I mean they're fine dudes, but they're generally not very hard-working, aren't the best looking, their faithfulness/religiosity is lip-service at best, and beyond their politics they often just kind of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:20 PM
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You're so good you lie to them to get in their pants? @_@ The math ain't mathing, Batman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:13 PM
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Yes, if that is the society and world they want to live in, they should. Now, do I personally think dating women much younger than you is the same as being gay, no. But, I support people advocating for the society they want to live in via social pressure. It's not an overstep. I want to live in a society where dirty old pervs aren't let near foolish young women. I want to live in a society where the older and wiser look after the younger and less wise. (Not where they try to fuck them). So I liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:10 PM
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I am a great determiner of what is and isn't my business. I blanket shame and I'm ok with being an asshole. Be the change you want to see in the world. If you don't want it to be my business, don't be where I can see you and know about it. If you can't take the heat of societal scorn, don't make the choices that lead to it. I'm fine with hurting the feelings of a creep and the potential of an unhealthy relationship in order to protect young women. It's effortless, my dude. Breathing is too. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:21 PM
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So, I'm going to tell you that your title and your body don't match. I totally agree a cocky devil may care dude is way better to date than some nice guy neurotic nightmare bore. Of course he is, dating isn't about sitting in a room navel gazing and being dull. Dating is passion, it's romance, it's the heart over the mind, it's lightning, and thrill, and heartbreak, and restoration, and seeking the ultimate adventure. It's laughing until your sides are sore in bed together over something stupid …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:14 PM
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Men are currently flailing because we've so dismantled the social hierarchies that allow them to function. The men who aren't flailing are typically engaged in communities with very overt leadership hierarchies (think the military, team sports, rank systems, etc.) The entire premise of your average workplace is a hierarchy designed so that men don't have to think they just do as the leader tells them no matter what they themselves think. And women are the ones with a herd mentality? I'm sorry, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:01 PM
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"That's a yikes from me, dawg" "You're lost in the ragu and it's time to lock in and get some therapy" "I dunno about them apples" "Negatory Ghostrider" "I'm not interested, I'm not playing into this, I love you, get help and let me know how I can help. If you don't want to get help, you need to let me know if you still want to be in this marriage knowing it will never happen and knowing I do not support you indulging this sort of thing and will not stand idly by while you do. And if you knew ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:50 PM
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Ok. I mean clearly we disagree so...uhh, you thinking otherwise is just your personal bias? Checkmate, atheist. I do...while advising her to run and telling him with frowns and faces I think he's pond scum. You get to make choices and so does she...just not free from the scorn and judgement of others. Can't do the time, don't do the crime. I can't imagine why you wouldn't want me to scorn so openly...that's a lie, I can. The greatest fear a man doing this has is her opening her eyes and seeing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:46 PM
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Yeah, which for me even as a married lady is wild, but I've learned to intellectually understand rules 1&2 of male dating. And I guess good for them, but golly, they aren't making the case to me that being even apathetically coupled is better than being single and lonely. Single and lonely has potential that apathetic coupledom never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:42 PM
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I wouldn't describe 30 year old guy as crusty. I wouldn't have an issue with him dating a 25 year old. I would have an issue with a 21 year old. 25 is the youngest he should be going. And look, I'll make this easy to understand: who is attracted to you is irrelevant when determining ethics. We know this because lots of teenagers are attracted to their teachers, their youth pastors, etc. Their lack of judgement is a feature, not a bug. You're the older, more mature, and responsible party who is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:48 PM
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The entire question is just dead on arrival for me. No one really wants to get married just to check the box at least consciously. You get married because you've met the right person and have the value set to decide you want to try to commit to being with them forever. (Basically same for kids.) Dying alone an eccentric is the default state for everyone. The people you're arguing with know this, but they tend to deeply believe especially women are overlooking perfectly good options that they cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:33 PM

Hey, Merry Christmas. Good luck finding someone who isn't independent and enjoys duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:09 AM

Love the rant, dude. My cats are all over me. It's a mutual obsession. I enjoy many responsibilities and obligations to them and people. I do not see sex as one of these. And thank god I married a man who doesn't either. Maybe cuz he's a cat-like human. He understands affection is mutual, not a responsibility, and sometimes you'd rather be left alone. Stop thinking your peen is a duty and then having a fit when women don't quite see a mutually loving and intimate act as the same as feeding the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:03 AM
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For most of human history women did not choose. Try again. There's nothing preventing you from dating same aged women...if they don't want a same aged man in their 30s...they just don't want that man. There's no mystique or true power imbalance left to explain the attraction. The average age difference preference is same age to 3 years in either direction with some preference towards older being higher. I do not deny that. I don't see how this constantly leads to older dudes trying to date down …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:01 PM
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He certainly could. The only relevant thing here is finding the right person. The right person is the right person day one and 2 years later. I would suspect so....especially if she's not dating someone 5 years older than her. Men forget that their fertility and quality is declining as well. Why would a younger woman concerned with having children choose an older man? Whatever answer you would give me...that's why an older man would date a same aged woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:58 PM
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Women his age can have children...why is that offensive to you? And if you try to tell me their eggs are getting worse they aren't. They're now linking all of those findings to man's sperm quality which gets worse with age. In other words, he could date women his own age...and his kids being healthy will be exactly the same probability which is to say if they aren't, it's because of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:14 PM
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If this is humor this is top tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:12 PM
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For sure, again, statistically likely. My problem is I've known women especially older (but sometimes younger) who work out, eat a good diet, aren't lazy, aren't poor, are very educated, and mentally sound and couldn't get skinny because they had some hormone struggles going on or were on birth control and it just wasn't working for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:10 PM
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I do, just not to a penis. I feed my cats like you would not believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:02 PM
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I make a really good chili and my fresh salads are next level. I also make some solid tacos and meatballs....and all often while playing video games and doing the laundry. And I do it while looking pretty which I think should qualify me for sainthood..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:01 PM
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Christmas eve is the big day in my life. So today I'm just recovering on the couch 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:50 PM
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I think most young people in general make bad choices about who to give their time and attention to in many different ways. And, I think young women aren't super interested in men in the same way young men are. I remember the joker's little monologue about dogs chasing cars and I always felt like the car early on. Like this dog is so fucking excited about me and I'm like hi there dog. Let's see where this goes. It's really tough to transition from childhood to adolescence to adulthood and I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:49 PM
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It is statistically likely, but not necessarily true. Hormones can play a huge role.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:37 PM
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This isn't difficult. You've experienced some non virgins, not all. You are extrapolating from that all of them would be this way. 2. I'm sorry you are not understanding a joke. Let me be more difficult for you. I was a virgin to my husband and if I was guiding my future daughter, I would tell her to have more fun than I did. I would tell her if she's in a significant and committed relationship have sex, don't be so in her head about being a good girl. There's no reason to assume virgins will gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:20 PM
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I think you're just not allowing for a somewhat complicated definition of insecurity. Look at what you've written: They bond better - you are insecure about the ability of a non-virgin to bond with you or not bring previous baggage to the relationship or not have baggage in a way that is positive for you (example, I dated this guy who was awful in x way and you're nothing like him and I find that so refreshing). Many of us gesture at this when we suggest the reason you don't want your wife to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:43 AM
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I agree it's more important in some ways....it just also isn't objective. You're attracted to your perspective, not to their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:43 AM
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I was including that in body, but I can see how you took it not that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:42 AM
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No, I wouldn't say that. It's marginally easier and the experience of orgasm from it is just more in a way that's difficult to articulate. But because it wasn't as difficult and was more assured and the places you feel it, it just doesn't relieve you as much. I think this is in part because the PIV often somewhat includes the clit getting some action (depending on angle) so it's more likely you're gonna get both from PIV than just clit. And the clit tends to rile up the inside so you kind of nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:22 AM
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Oh, I totally agree. It's a gigantic difference in socialization. But, it produces results like my experience. My husband gets to put his name on the works I do, but everyone knows that man ain't planning their cookie tins. He's helping pay for them maybe which is nice, but he doesn't give that sort of shit. He's only just become excellent at giving me gifts and it took him like 7 years to connect his caring about me in that way. Like love men, but sit down on this one if you're thinking most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:04 PM
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We just disagree and that's cool. I think people's personalities make them beautiful too...just not physically in a vavavoom sense. You haven't changed in your perception of their vavavoom physical being, you've changed in your overall perception. The ick of neutrality of the physicality is being over ridden by them being chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:01 PM
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That's not how rhetorical questions work. Rhetorical questions are you inserting your answer because you believe it to be bulletproof or a foregone conclusion. You can't hold me accountable for your answer. Only mine, and you didn't hear mine because you won't make a thread. It's so sad too because my answer is such a great one. You'd really love it. You do too know why it wouldn't be relevant. You're not stupid, a tacky vulture slinging what I'm sure you perceive to be gotchas, yes. But not stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:59 PM
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I mentioned other things beyond baking. You're asking me to list an entire life time of things I've done for friends, the needy, and acquaintances... But also, don't be minimizing baking. Most of the problem I see on this forum is with men who have never got a tin of good Christmas cookies from someone just because they think they're awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:56 PM
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It didn't sound like advice. It sounded like a political agenda. No, we're disagreeing about your intentions. Watch: Political agenda = I think it would broadly be better for me and everyone if you did x. Advice = I think it would be better for you if you did x. Advice requires you to demonstrate care for and priority towards the individual, not for a political system and then hoping the political system trickles down to the individual. You also keep missing, I don't disagree with your prescript…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:54 PM
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Maybe it's just that I'm studying stupid math right now...but I feel like you can solve for x or y in a system of equations like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:51 PM
2

The feelings are different. I think PIV is usually harder to achieve so I have been more tense for longer which means the relief of that is often more intense than the opposite. The clit is more reliable no doubt. I think clitoral often feels more pleasurable, but not as relieving if that makes sense. In terms of emotions, I dunno. I think I feel more like I'm a let down when the PIV just isn't working for me than if the clit isn't going somewhere. Do I connect to my partner more...I mean the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:32 PM
2

Sure, I get that. But that's not the same as looking at their body and finding it hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:25 PM
3

I'd argue that they haven't changed, merely your perspective on them is clouding what is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:25 PM
2

No, please, you're just advocating. And now you're back-peddling because you realize it's a bad look indeed to be telling women how to live while being mad at others for telling women how to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:23 PM
2

If you think I've got no response at all then you're asking a rhetorical question aren't you. Which would be extremely rude to then pressure me to give you an answer you've already decided you know. Now, if you were open to being proven wrong, you'd make that thread. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:21 PM
3

I'd probably make sure you included something about "from government or societal systems", but I don't want to mess with your creative process too much. Won't. You need a thread and to stop hijacking other people's. Plus, it's a pretty long response is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:20 PM
1

People just need to introspect, communicate that introspection transparently, and try through empathy to discern what the other person wants even if they aren't communicating as clearly as we may wish. Like, I've been in these will they won't they things. Just ask them and look for their reactions. Even if they say yes, but look filled with panic then step back. If they say no, but look like you're their last train out of hell, maybe slow down, but don't bail entirely. And know who you are and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:19 PM
3

Dude, this is so much easier than this: Make sure you and the person you're courting share values, interests, and goals for your future and particular relationship. Communicate about it. Don't do anything you wouldn't do just because you want to or because you are in alignment. Everyone has to stop trying to use their love or bodies or so forth to try to manipulate someone else into doing what they want and the world will be a much better place for all of you in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:15 PM
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He isn't becoming more physically attractive. That doesn't happen. They simply begin to like him and what he's about more so they are more emotionally attracted to him and that allows them to feel lust towards his being, not his physicality. And I don't recommend it to any woman. You deserve to feel lust towards his physical body too. I've done the maybe this will grow bit several times and it never does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:12 PM
2

Not at all, our tones were entirely different. I was suggesting based on what would bring them happiness and you were suggesting what served the political agenda you're pushing. You weren't giving advice, you were advocating for your political agenda. Let's not pretend we are what we aren't. I know many liberals like to do that, but it's just deceitful and childish to think anyone reading can't tell you're trying to be prescriptive and I'm trying to make a suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:09 PM
5

Make a thread, sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:06 PM
9

I'm 32 and describing my current life. If I were to look back I would say there's only two women who didn't return my energy in my life...and that's why our friendship dissipated heavily. Yes, most women return energy well. It's not paradise, it's pretty typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:03 PM
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Nowhere did I indicate what I do or don't understand. And I understand how conservatism can harm woman. But if you notice, I'm granting women agency and simply offering advice. I'd let them do what they want as a sexual being...you on the other hand seem eager to prescribe who they should be giving access to their bodies to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:00 PM
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I couldn't say. For me, he can't have the babies...so the idea is kind of DOA. Like even if he did all the other stuff, he couldn't do that and that's the thing I don't really want to do. The fact I've never really seen a man step into this role doesn't help the rest of course, but yeah, that's the problem. It's the one thing a man cannot do that a woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:58 AM
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I married one and am one. Ladies, this is simple: marry a man you share values and compatibilities with. You may want to have sex with them somewhere in the dating process up to the marriage, have sex with men who share values and compatibility with. And remember, you're allowed to not have personality be your entire personality or value system. You're allowed to kind of shoulder shrugging levels of support anything you want. Please try not to let the irony of a woman telling you what to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:52 AM
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Dude, I totally agree. Like if I'm forced to evaluate cold transactions then women all day. But I really don't look at my friendships with either gender like that persay. I just adore my friends and I know they're there for me, I enjoy their company, and the give me what they have to share even if that's not very much transactionally speaking. And I give what I have to share because I love them and no one ever got poor giving what they have to people they love. If you dont feel that way, I agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:26 AM
5

I don't want to peg my man because that's fucking narsty. Gross. Like you do you, but ewwwww brother, ewww. I ain't going near that thing. It can clear the room with the right fart and you want me to invade? Also, I love how men bring up just laying there like they can move easily with someone twice their weight on top of them thrusting. 😆 what do you want her to do, bridge and get single leg x? I think the difference you'll always be fighting is that men still got there and didn't end up injure…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:48 PM
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I have baked at least twenty people in my life christmas cookies. I bake all of them stuff for birthdays. Now. I do this for the love of the game. I can tell you I've done many of them favors of other kinds... And don't even start me on emotional support. I know some good men, I will say that freely...but they ain't emotionally supportive returns. You don't invest in that stock portfolio for that. And before you wonder, I've helped people move houses. None helped me. I've cooked for most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:43 PM
6

A thought I've been recently pondering is that when asked for standards, both genders are listing who they would treat well and be excited about...not the minimum price of entry so to speak. In other words, men will date fat women, but they aren't excited and they probably will treat her like a placeholder or used and disposed and similarly men who don't meet women's attraction level won't receive enthusiasm and will be treated like a placeholder or used and disposed. And the thing everyone is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:25 PM
5

I mean if you're American...it kind of is asking for an upper tier gal statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:16 PM
1

It absolutely supports yelling. What on earth kind of therapy are you talking about. Stoicism? Yelling is healthy communication in a number of circumstances. And is a best way to go. Yes, of course. Yelling is healthy. Just because it makes you uncomfortable or you don't deal well with it doesn't make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:03 PM
1

It really isn't. Emotional intelligence is the ability to understand and appropriately wield emotions in yourself and others. I am describing how to deploy emotions to be heard and get the appropriate response from partners especially when we know most problems will not necessarily be resolved especially quickly. And therapy very much supports communicating emotions and making sure partners experience your internal state.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:44 PM
2

It can. Like all things, this depends on severity and the content consumed at what frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:21 PM
2

Honestly, I just ask them for reasonable solutions. In my experience, their attempt to solve what they see as problems has a tendency to reveal they don't have problems, they have tragedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:20 PM
1

I disagree. I think dealing with the emotionality of others often prevents future struggles down the line because you know the cost and don't necessarily want to pay it. I think that backlash teaches people to be careful with their words and action. You aren't going to even arrive at solution land until you burn out the pain and emotions. I acknowledge this can take awhile, but you can't start closing wounds until you get all the pus out. Emotional intensity fixes a lot of the problem. It shows …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:18 PM
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Ahh!! So a light variation on what I got. This is why you ask is this about listening or solving. Feelings don't fall out of the clear blue sky. If you're dealing with strong emotions, it's because something has happened and they are not a nuisance nor irrelevant to the solution process. And I'll be sexist and blunt since you were when someone asked for clarification (me). Men usually play your path as a way to avoid apologizing, accountability, or confronting the damage they did to someone they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:47 AM
4

A true sage is in our midst.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:17 AM
4

Who is dodging. That ain't what this thread is about. Open a goal post, don't move it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:16 AM
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I can't say I've met that person nor recognized them in what you said in your op.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:49 PM
1

Oh mybgod Danny Devito, I love your work. No, but really where I lived for my childhood there were lots of these kind of dudes roaming around and they're just so charming it's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:30 PM
1

I dunno, for me a like unoversal ick for me with relationships or friendships is if they like the movie titanic. I just immediately know our kinds won't mix. And that's ok. It's just a clear sign my plumber is in another castle. And yet, I acknowledge how petty this can seem to almost anyone who isn't me. It doesn't even matter who did anything initially for the friendship or relationship. I just instantly kind of know which species of person they are and my species chews that species up. Like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:29 PM
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Interesting. I could see that. I think it's rare, but maybe I'm used to seeing those dudes who are like...you know the roomies that its a shame they aren't gay because their friendship is better than most relationships. And I assume that would translate easily if they'd just get a girl. Agreed. It just seems somewhat clear from the literature that young boys especially need a model of dad and they are easily swayed into fulfilling mom's emotional needs in a way that damages their future connecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:24 PM
4

Make a thread boafus. Stop asking for spoilers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:22 PM
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Ladies, let him do it. Bertha, shup up about power imbalances, this may be Doris' only chance .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:21 PM
1

Ok. Well, you've never met a short classic Italian dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:20 PM
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Same thing I tell men: Decide what you want, decide what you're willing to sacrifice for it, align those two things, figure out what kind of man would be into you, put yourself into proximity of a lot of men like that, and then hope it clicks with one of them. I will say broadly some good sniff tests: 1. How does he treat people he's upset with? 2. How does he treat people who can do nothing for him? 3. How does he talk about sex? 4. Does he have a pet and how does he talk to the pet if so? 5. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:20 PM
1

Could you explain this another way because my brain is getting that you think women talk and feel too much and it's annoying and ruining things compared to compartmentalizing and being action oriented.... And if that's what you mean then I mean, hi, welcome to the oldest fight among the sexes. Bathroom is on the right. Here's your rifle and this is Ted. It's Ted's job to pick up your rifle when you fall and keep fighting because this war doesn't show any signs of stopping. I can tell you some pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:15 PM
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I've thought dudes were behaved irresponsibly and partied their life away were foolish and annoying since I was 19....They're not annoying when they're 30 to 40...They're sad. They are like that one 45 year old dude who still thinks his metal band is gonna hit it big. You just feel sorry for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:12 PM
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I suppose I have to assume that at least the women who aren't going out with his friends have to be attractive enough to them. I couldn't speak to their brains. I know, which makes it amazing that they're succeeding with men. Makes ya wondering what these men did to fuck it up. Enter the nat 1 or the low charisma stat or no skills in diplomacy. Reminds me of that time I failed a dead to rights intimidation check in BG3 and had to blast my way out as an owlbear. I would assume based on the questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:08 PM
1

It's a social skill deficit in my book, but I respect if you believe that deficit is caused entirely by looks...despite the fact we all know many a homely man who can charm his way into any knickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:05 PM
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I'm more suggesting they avoided the bulk of this part of life. They kept their heads down, got decent grades, sat alone or almost alone st lunch, rarely interacted with the opposite sex and if they did it was cataclysmic, and then went home and gamed and walked their middle school and high school and often even college years away with minimal attempts at socializing or dating sprinkled in. At home they often had an absent father or nonexistent and a mother who was either overly controlling and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:03 PM
1

I get it on both sides. It's a tough nut to Crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:01 PM
1

I can respect that. I just think we do a lot of accurate diagnosis without much in the way of real solution steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:00 PM
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I'm not very close with her surprisingly. Next time she tries to shake me down for a dollar I'll ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:59 PM
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No, I find things frustrating or irritating at times, but when I look st him he's terribly dashing and those things feel far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:58 PM
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I know, but it's wild. Like y'all play games more complex than your dating worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:06 PM
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You have not answered me. You're talking about the flawed nature of people. Rarely do these flaws impact attraction. I know all of my husband's worst flaws and I've never been more into him and I was super into him when he first caught my eye. So try again: Why is it wrong to expect total attraction right away? Why should someone hope that emerges?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:05 PM
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When you dig down into their histories, a lot of these guys are arrested development cases who never completed the social part of adolescence for a myriad of reasons involving absent or controlling parents and often video games and pornography. The problem is, it's hard to do social adolescence in your 20s and 30s because people aren't left to play along and the direct penalties have all but disappeared. It's sad honestly. And doesn't come with easy answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:03 PM
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I'm personally having fun with it because she's highlighting that exaggeration and unspoken standards are a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:56 PM
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Why is it unfair to expect total attraction, I'm asking genuinely?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:54 PM
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Poor toothless homeless meth addled Doris. Always shooting her shot and getting turned down by these nice men who want anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:44 PM
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I don't think you can grow an attraction from no to small attraction You need something to go off of thats at least medium to large. Trust me, I've tried. It's made up and just hurts the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:41 PM
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This is pretty simple to answer: those men aren't attractive. I mean maybe they are a physical 5 to 7, but that doesn't mean their personality is or their EQ or their IQ or any of the Qs. Or and to make matters worse, maybe they are and the spark just didn't happen for any number of reasons involving timing, attachment styles, or chance. Like, I don't think these women are lying about their standards, I just think dating is more complicated than look at this dude's resume, he meets the standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:38 PM
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A lot? I'd go with some, but I don't think enough to say a lot. I think we forget very often when looking at a married couples that are unhappy that it's likely at one point they liked each other like a super lot. Yes, that's decayed or fallen on hard times such that it looks like she's keeping him around for a credit card or for the children and he needs a sex dispenser and for the children....but I do not think this is typical of why people get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:33 PM
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My husband has happily engaged with my music taste and enjoys some Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter at this point. I think the reason women want this: 1. It shows a man who isn't insecure about enjoy feminine things. 2. It shows a man who is willing to engage with your interests and care about your world which is pretty rare. 3. Clearly it shows good taste (duh) I can't tell you how gooey and special I feel about my husband sitting and watching some of the final show taylor swift concert and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:18 PM
1

I think for young women this is true. It's different for moms. Then the rule shifts a decent amount. I'm mostly friends with very fit women and the moment they became a mom they went from carrying clutches and little handbags or wallets to big ole bags, one shifted to a backpack, I mean even when they aren't with their kid they're just used to having the bigger bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:13 PM
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Speaking broadly: I personally think people should regularly be expanding and challenging their supposed comfort zone (especially when young, I'd say). And I could go into this thought process more, but I doubt you want that. When men are told to get outside their comfort zone if they want to improve their dating situation, what's really being suggested is the above...like look, you don't know yourself as well as you think you do, you're living a small, comfortable, and likely scared life. The g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:52 PM
1

This is just a mismatch of values and compatibility. If you want a man who pays, go on dates with men who pay. If the men communicate they will not be paying once you're on the date, graciously say, "Thank you for your honesty and this invitation, I don't think our values are in alignment" and cover your part as well as a portion of the tip and then stand up and leave the date. Simple as. The purpose of dating is finding a man who is compatible with the kind of dating, relationship, and values y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:48 PM
2

There isn't really one kind of therapy to be clear. There's many schools, many techniques, and it very much depends on what your problems are. Like if you're wondering what it looks like in practice...you know the Sopranos presented therapy extremely well. I myself haven't been to therapy, but I have a minor in counseling so I can tell you first and foremost it's a safe place to talk and be forced into self awareness gently and have your ideas explored and challenged. The healing referenced very…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:45 PM
1

You said relationships with robots, I apologize if that assumption was incorrect. I wouldn't think of a sex doll as a relationship unless you're having a sort of Lars and the Real Girl psychotic break.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:58 AM
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In my brain I couldn't truly say if they had a chance or not, I mean it seems statistically likely they did have a few, but fractions of fractions do exist. For me it's actually much simpler: the AI gf is ensuring they will never have a chance and at least in my book reflects a willingness to become mentally unhealthy and deranged by pretending this facsimile is somehow better than nothing. To call it a relationship reflects such a disconnect and bizarre view on what relationships are, it's sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:24 AM
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I said, WHAT CLINICS? Because now I'm thinking this is just a psyop by big pharma that wants to sell you solutions to a non problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:40 PM
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Which clinics dude? Again, I've never heard a primary care being like: get on trt because your boners aren't as strong as when you were 15. The only way is if there's multiple symptoms which are excessive (not getting boners at all would be an example). Dude, this just sounds like you listened to Carno Pimp King and not real doctors. It is totally normal to decrease even if you're doing everything right. Thats why UFC fighters change divisions as they age and most retire in their 30s. It's fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:32 PM
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Decreasing testosterone is normal as you age. It's very normal. You're not meant to be like a 12 year old boy, dude. That level of testosterone is designed to help them grow into a man's body and trigger those changes. It's not something a man in his 30s should be aspiring to nor expecting. No doctor who is obeying a hypocratic oath would be pushing this towards men. That's insane. The whole "if your heart can handle it" which I don't even buy, would be the first sign that this isn't necessarily…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:10 PM
1

If you haven't signaled interest, I really don't think strange men should be coming up to you anywhere. Learn to toss ya hair and give the come hither eyes and big huge smile. Otherwise, I'm glad men have the message not to just randomly go up to any old woman they see because a great deal of us find that threatening and/or unappealing. Saying the line about choosing the bear is them being bitchy, but I'm a woman. I appreciate a bitchy king answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:06 PM
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It could, it could also be normal for you, it could also be a temporary stress response, it could be being tired, it could be your new normal based on healthy aging. Hormone replacement therapy is not necessarily healthy and in fact would not be the first thing any doctor would recommend. And nothing you described about not waking up rock solid, not immediately bricking up at a certain visual, or not shooting ropes is unhealthy. It just doesn't fit an unhealthy sexual narrative porn pushes towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:02 PM
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I can't even tell if this is a fetish post because it feels so um special (deranged). I do not think you covered health at all here. When I think of my sexual health I'm thinking of my cycle being regular, the symptoms being low or well managed, no infections or diseases. I'm thinking of being somewhat aware where I'm at in my cycle and thus it showing where I'm at. I then think of making sure I'm being consistent and clear about communicating what I need to keep my body safe so that my sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:05 PM
1

I think both parents have the job of showing their children what to expect and seek in a relationship via how they themselves treat their partner. I think if you look at this dynamic, it explains way more of the dating struggles than anyone is totally comfortable with acknowledging. So it's more than mom assuring, she should be demonstrating to a son what he should seek and expect and be mindful that if she's not showing up in a healthy way, he'll seek unhealthy patterns himself. Same for dads w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:00 PM
4

Equality of outcome is not the same as equality of opportunity as you've found. I'm not a fan of forcing equality of outcome by altering equality of opportunity. I believe we all have the same opportunities to find and seek love. I do not believe everyone deserves to feel love and have a special relationship. I believe they should be allowed the opportunity to pursue these things, which they have currently. I wouldn't wish to do away with courtship or marriage for the benefit of others. I liked …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:53 PM
1

My first post made it clear I wasn't suggesting this was a cascading into all systems of their life failure (not extensive). It's there, it's something I would be aware of if evaluating them for mate potential and I think most people would notice it and raise an eyebrow, that doesn't mean others would be as turned off as me nor that they couldn't be an otherwise decent human who has this one weird schoolyard hang up. I agree many people live beyond their means...I think sometimes it is to signal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:17 PM
1

-I agree it can expose itself like that...I don't think most women are looking at status like that. I think status is often a....complicated and often flawed version of likability and communal trust/power combined with competence. These qualities are not materialistic nor shallow. In my experience, men care about them just as much, they just often aren't as comfortable with the woman being the superior in this regard unless it is in a more feminine way (everyone likes her because she's charming,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:45 PM
2

Yeah, again, I think there's some of these that are much easier to prosecute than others. I think it all should be prosecuted assuming malice aforethought essentially. I can just see there's a lot of wiggle room when it comes to chemical birth controls that are so subject to human error.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:32 PM
1

It's all I can see when I see men saying this. Like, you're attracted, everyone is attracted to external signifiers of competence and wealth. This is a human quality and we know it because fertility is not just about boobs and hips which anyone with even half a comprehension of evolution would understand. The only reason you would bother to say this comment like this is if you were negging or trying to deal with your own feelings of insecurity around this because I don't see anyone besides talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:14 PM
1

Oh for sure, those are way more provable for sure. Those I can totally co-sign similar to a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:06 PM
1

I feel like if I assume this is a message for a very specific sort of man, I'm ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:04 PM
2

I'm going to take a different tactic than my usual, because I'm bored: I think high status and intelligent men care openly about these qualities in a woman and are attracted to them because they're secure in their own status, accomplishments, and intellects. I don't think lesser men aren't attracted to these qualities, I think they're insecure in their own status, accomplishments, and intellects and so they often won't openly show attraction nor interest in these qualities to make sure they eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:51 PM
7

A mic drop comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:37 PM
6

In terms of my game overall, I dunno, I'm really good at flirting because I enjoy it like a sport and always have. I'll flirt with pretty much anyone just for the giggle, the wordplay, and the cleverness. Retrospectively, most guys are interested in me if you give me about 5 minutes with them. I'm that warm bubbly kind of girl that laughs easily, takes teasing well, and teases back and I have a fawn-like appearance that makes people feel like they can tell me anything and the sweet innocence to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:31 PM
2

Yeah, it's not just that, but that's a big one. Weight fluctuations can influence it last I knew. It's effective, it's just not as consistent as we'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:20 AM
1

I do think it should be illegal for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:18 AM
1

Hard to say since the prevention method sounds like it's different. Hormonal birth control more or less tricks our bodies into thinking we're pregnant so eggs don't get released and so forth. It's like a whole ass thing that messes with our cycles and thus requires way stricter adherence because our bodies want their natural cycles. And lots of things disrupt the birth control. The Male birth control seems to be about stopping the production of sperm, which doesn't mess with hormones as I unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:56 AM
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Never heard of that, but I can't imagine it. Like, I was a nazi about taking my birth control...and I still forgot once in a blue moon or I'd think I had it on me and I wouldn't find it, once it fell in the toilet. Like, I was committed to the cause, and even I had struggles because taking it the same time every day is much easier in theory than in practice especially as a young person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:54 AM
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Most women who stealth are on birth control....they just stop taking it. And proving that is difficult as hell because it's such a haywire drug. I agree it should be illegal, I'm just dubious you'll prove the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:52 AM
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I mean yeah, I can't really see a reason why not. The only thing I'd mention for things like the pill is that there's perfect use and well, the way most women take it which is not perfect use. So, I wouldn't include that as rape because there's not a malice there, just irresponsibility. And I'll be honest, boys, use a condom. Like chemical birth control is extremely effective, but it's not perfect and there's so many things that can render it ineffective or less effective. Like it is as much an …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:46 AM
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I'd say it's 2 from this list. I do not assume most of then men I encounter here are average or normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:30 AM
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Well yeah, but we're human. I've been to so many events to make my husband smile that the process during was a bit tedious and not enjoyable. I'm glad to have done it and seen him so pleased and joyful...but I can't also pretend I wasn't a bit bored spitless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:14 PM
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Victims in general aren't taken super seriously, that's not a gendered problem. You don't have to retaliate necessarily. Remove yourself from the situation or control it. I've given men a bus seat before. Especially elderly men or you know clear veterans. I also have socially assisted men which isn't something I do for women generally. There's lots of kindness that sort of only go one way, but it's not a requirement. It's harder on one and we know it. Women are physically weaker and often strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:11 PM
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Again, often the best metric of someone's connection is their willingness to suffer for or make sacrifices for it. Otherwise they're at best a fair weather friend which really isn't a friend, right? Why would he feel like a mega loser? She didn't want him, that doesn't make him a mega loser or even a loser. It just makes him not wanted for that by that person. Why would it be amplified by her finding someone she does want that with? It need not be a reflection of who he is, just what she wants. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:58 PM
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Well, look, you're bringing another flawed human into your inner sphere and life. So sacrifices might look like: Having less free time, spending more of your time doing things that you don't really like or aren't your favorite anyway, having emotionally taxing dialogues about any number of subjects, you may literally be giving up space or changing your space, you may have to work on the parts of you that are messy and have a tendency of hurting or annoying others, having to learn to communicate …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:08 PM
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like women being allowed to assault men with impunity, giving them their bus seat (even if they aren’t pregnant), men risking life and limb to protect women (not just loved ones, but random women) and expecting nothing in return - much like men took advantage of their physical strength for millennia. Hell even the marriage proposal ritual involves a man getting on one knee and giving women power over them. Women aren't allowed to assault men with impunity. What are you talking about? Do you mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:00 PM
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So, not to get all JP on you...but life is full of pain and most of our measure of people is how they deal with pain. There should be pain if you let go of the friendship, right? And there's pain if you stay nearby, right? So pain is unavoidable in this scenario. We call this where I'm from a Kobayashi Maru - the no win scenario. The whole premise of a no win scenario is that it reveals what you value, who you are, and your capabilities. If you're choosing to abandon the friendship, it doesn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:40 PM
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I'm not even sure how to answer this because ultimately the right man won't mind the kids and will love her and treat her right. However, I think we can fairly say this will be a relatively rare occurrence to find a man who is interested in a woman with children that aren't his especially during younger years of his life. Like if they're both 45-60, this is much more likely, but in 20s and 30s...you're looking for a rare specimen. This doesn't mean you deserve to be mistreated or to have an awfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:39 PM
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I couldn't speak to that, I faced some level of rejection and I'm also not clear that repeated rejection would change how much I valued the friendships I'd formed. Ultimately, you have to get over it. You might as well get over it and still have a friend/companion than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:34 PM
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This is the best I've ever seen this said. I celebrate people finding love when traveling or for education or work. I think it's lovely to move somewhere that fits you better....but doing it for the purposes of exploiting others will always be icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:41 PM
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I'm not seeing some conflict here. In one the guy is genuinely uncertain what this connection is or could be and is staying open and just getting to know the woman like a person. In two the guy isn't genuine, he's there to chase skirt, he's pretending to be open to what happens depending on the person. He's already decided why he's there and we can tell so it's like just cut to the chase so we can send you packing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:34 PM
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I have, yes. I didn't abandon the friendship. And yes, I do. It's entirely possible to get over it. It takes time, but running away isn't a very good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:27 PM
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I've never felt guilty about rejecting a friend. So with that said, I think more what happens is most of these men are blind to their internal landscapes and then when they discover what was always there for them, they tend to think it grew. So they aren't lying, they're just not reliable sources of information on themselves. I think a lot of them are this way from having a lot of built up feelings of shame, insecurity, and being unappealing so friends is the only way they can feel safe to move …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:30 AM
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Everyone knows when a ring or commitment goes on some people sniff more. I will tell you the people who go after taken people aren't generally who you'd want to be with. I will also tell you for many it makes you platonic and safe to be around which many men confuse for pre-selection or interest when the reality from the inside is that finally you're friends. Me personally, I never wanted to take someone else's person so single or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:23 AM
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Just speaking as someone who is entirely capable of turning on an Ice Cold Motherfucker style of debate where we stay on the topic and only the topic and we address it rationally.... Yeah men don't fair to well either, dude. This isn't a gendered thing. Most people lack for the language and discipline to follow that sort of debate because it is a skill that requires practice. And I will tell you, the difference between following formal debate and not...well it doesn't get you to a real discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:21 AM
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All? No. The disappearance of third spaces isn't on men. The destruction of socialization via social media and smart phones isn't on men. The disposal fast food lifestyle that is so rampant and prioritizing easy and short term thrills isn't on men....and I tend to think these are much more likely causes of macro dating issues than men. If you mean individually would men greatly benefit from putting more effort into appearance, community, social and relationship skills because in certain ways wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:17 AM
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I think you're not getting me, I'm saying I think men should occupy this role. The fact so many don't makes me hold men as a whole in slightly lower regard. And if men were doing this, I would give them respect and status...just not deference. I think deference was and always is inappropriate unless we're all getting deference for doing what we're good at. I'm well aware of the cost and risk, better than most men, honestly. Frankly, if I was gonna throw shade and explain men's feelings of inadeq…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:52 AM
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Honestly, I'd have to think about this because I think I may agree. Most often, I've been protected by women. I can think of one time a man stepped up for me 😅 Also, good for you. I'm sure that lady was thankful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:34 AM
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I would say most people aren't natural protectors depending on the severity of the situation. Men just happen to be people. You know like most people have to train to be police officers or fire fighters or soldiers for a reason. I think the struggle is that we have men who seem to think their reason not to do the dishes or help with domestic tasks is that they're being protectors and that just sounds so silly in current day and age. The idea that men deserve deference if they were protectors is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:07 PM
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I'm married so preferably in my kitchen by my husband. If you mean before that, I wanted to be hit on at social gatherings and by men I sort of knew. I also think the gym can be alright provided there's a connection that's been built over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:47 PM
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I'm just curious, if you've met some genuinely chill girls...why aren't you off the market? I think there will always be competition on the apps...there's way more men than women on them so you kind of have to assume the kind of girls consistently on them are of a particular type....could we say....the type who aren't interested in settling down/commitment? Or perhaps ones that prioritize thrill-seeking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:46 PM

When giving general advice (I do not know the person), some advice I'd give to both genders, some advice I'd give to only men, and some advice I'd give to only women. In this case: have a social circle is general advice which leans towards men, this is largely because as you've noted, being an introverted dude is less likely to end with you partnered than your female counter-part. Do I see this as a double standard? Well not really because I'm not making a standard, I'm giving advice. If you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:36 PM
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Yes, I understood that, I'm telling you they're rejecting the person in front of them. They don't need to make up a villain to hate, they just reject the dude they aren't attracted to or are having poor relationships with. They may at times overly villainize someone when really they're just done because of the consistent misery, but they aren't creating a cartoonish villain to dismiss. They are rejecting the real person. I entirely disagree. Good faith assumption is earned over time and commitme…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:18 PM
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At some point, we need to agree not wanting to date someone because you aren't attracted to them isn't petty nor shallow unless and only if no sexual contact will occur. And we need to not try to do mental splits to explain how this is really insecurity or moral something or others from women. Occam's Razor says that she's just not into you, bro. It's no deeper nor more nefarious than that. Assuming the worst is honestly a solid practice, like I hate to say it, but that advice about asking the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:21 AM
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Virtue is practiced at the right time, in the right place, in the right way. Any virtue can be a vice at worst or simply failing if it doesn't adhere to this formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:22 PM
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They are treated that way. It's not in their head. And it's not because they're after sex although that does at times play a role. I generally treat people respectfully, but with a leeriness because I don't see these as exclusive and it's honest. I'm just not someone that wakes up like every day is a totally new day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:31 AM
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I'm interested. Say more. I've not heard this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:14 AM
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Alright, they've got us. Everyone pack it up and go home. Check the lost and found on your way out, make sure you grab your dish from the potluck section, and let's all raise a glass to the good times. Remember that time that one guy said dating going badly wasn't his fault....and he got annihilated from all sides and we laughed....good times...ahhh! I'm really gonna miss that. No, but seriously shut up, the Taylor Swift documentary doesn't get more episodes for like a week. Some of us need this…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:31 AM
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They are basically the same when it's 70 to 90%. I was in fact saying they are more or less the same. I'm not pretending otherwise. I'm saying it's such a significant portion of the diagram so as to explain the derision felt for single mothers aka welfare queens . I'm aware many have jobs...it is their fault they are unable to stay afloat without assistance. Who else's fault would it be? https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-economic-status-of-single-mothers/ also a quick Google search.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:26 AM
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I think it's you who may struggle with empathy because single motherhood is the single best predictor for teen pregnancy, incarceration, lower educational attainment, and mental health issues. And since you never responded 71% to 90% of them make up welfare. $80 billion dollars of tax payer money is spent housing and feeding these incompetents while they fuck up their children who go on to make society a worse place for everyone else. It's seriously sad when there's a not small chance the best t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:15 AM
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It's actually romantic...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:01 AM
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Here's a thought and go with me: maybe youth isn't prime for much of anything. You will never be as stupid, selfish, egotistical, sexually useless, and generically useless as you are when you're young. If you spend your youth well, by the time you're 30, you won't be a girl or a boy, you'll be a woman or a man. Someone who is competent, capable, formidable, sexually capable, intimately generous, and selfless. In other words, someone worth interacting with and forming a close bond with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:54 AM
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Is it slightly weird? Sure. Is it working for you? Yes. What matters? Not the first question is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:29 AM

I'm married to a man and we would also like one of these millionaire wives if they're being distributed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:26 AM
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I mean, as the only other option to pick the socks up...I would. Let us not forget the epic, "the city is in danger" "My evening is in danger" "We're talking about the greater good" "Greater good? I'm the greatest good you're ever gonna find"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:13 AM
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I don't feel like I'm nitpicking is the thing. I'm trying to highlight that well, let's put it another way: Not everyone wants to be Chris Hemsworth's wife...because not everyone wants to be a celebrity's companion because being a celebrity comes with downsides. Not everyone wants to be MJ, because it means almost not having a husband, being in constant danger, and never being the first priority because your man is Spiderman. Most of us don't want to really date Batman, because yeah, he's fantas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:01 PM
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I wasn't, I said it was nearly a circle, because it is. Estimates of Welfare suggest that anywhere from 71% to 90% of welfare recipients are single mothers. My citation is a quick google and AI's answer which I then confirmed by reading some associated articles. I'd tell you this is a well-known fact, because it is. Again, not quite a circle, but nearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:06 PM
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I think you've invented something that could theoretically exist, but just in practice doesn't. When a child is born, the woman is in very poor straights. She literally has a gaping wound prone to infection and significant blood loss. She's physically fucked and that's putting it nicely. She needs to eat, sleep, and barely move as much as possible. Both she and the baby are desperately vulnerable and in need of care. Yes, the infant is more attached to her than the father for both psychological …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:58 PM
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It's not a full picture of the ideal. It's 2/3rds and leaving out a truly significant third. Again, it's Captain America before he can prioritize Peggy. He's a wonderful and successful man...he's also not who she can be with. Can you see this vital difference. There's so much ideal about what you're describing, but without knowing how he treats us and what he prioritizes when push comes to shove, he cannot be the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:43 PM
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You keep going extreme and it's so strange. Most men aren't rapists. Most single mothers are welfare queens. It's not bigotry to detest poor decisions which cannot be admitted and leave people somehow doubling down on said poor decisions and entitlement. Bigotry is going, "your gender or sex (inherent qualities) means you are x". Single Mother isn't an inherent value. It's a choice. Therefore it reflects who someone is at least in part at least at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:41 PM
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I glanced through this and I wasn't seeing it, but I'm a little tired to look for subtext to what looks like a bickering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:38 PM
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I think you accurately portray society's ideal man...and also hilariously society and men's ideal woman (interesting how those are the same). I don't think you've accurately portrayed a woman's ideal man. Mostly because, you've said nothing about how he treats the woman. I cannot disagree with many other woman's assessment that Loki is closer to a feminine ideal than Thor in a lot of ways. I don't know if you noticed, but the Marvel movies are all about their largely male characters growing into…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:11 PM
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I mean, the love faster is about sex because of their stupid idea that seeing a person's body and liking it is the same as love. So I'm just throwing that one in the sex bin. I've seen the men love more in an authentic sense claim, but I've never seen this related to shallowness personally. I've seen it related to being mercenary. Being mercenary isn't shallow, it's detestable. I think we've all seen Amy's Little Women speech defending mercenary dating practices and what emerges is far from shal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:43 PM
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Lilith, work with me. There's multiple reasons for hating single mothers, ready: The Venn Diagram of a hated single mother and a welfare queen overlap significantly. Some may even say they are a circle. Almost no one is going around hating single mothers who aren't welfare queens UNLESS they absolutely refuse to acknowledge that it's not a good thing to be a single mother. Which is a rare specimen, but I've seen them from time to time. They're almost as rare as the hated single mother who is kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:39 PM
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I agree this is possible, I don't agree it's probable. I can imagine if you had an exceedingly high degree of self-awareness this could be accomplished. I simply doubt most people would have that degree of self-awareness. Well, and also have needed to be told to fix their self. I suppose I'm saying this seems like a different type of human that the one with both roaches and mice. The person with that degree of self-awareness is most likely to only have roaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:20 PM
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Oh easy: Think of it like having a pest problem. You have both Mice and Roaches. Mice = unattractive qualities which self-improvement could fix and Roaches = overly centering women in a way that causes desperation and neurosis. It's true we cannot sense the degree to which you exterminated the Mice because of the Roaches and to what degree you just don't like Mice....but we don't have to because when we walk in your house the Roaches are everywhere. You gotta exterminate both to a certain extent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:25 PM
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Lady-Dude, I think this is way simpler. I don't think anyone has hate in their heart for a Lorelai Gilmore who doesn't take hand-outs except off her wealthy parents and otherwise works hard, develops her own career, cares for her child, keeps some pretty draconian dating practices to keep her daughter safe, tries to give her a great life, instills in her the same ambition and lust for life, and admits that she was a stupid 16 year old who made a mistake, but has gone on to create a solid life fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:18 PM
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This is really easy: it isn't within my personal values to do so and I do find it humiliating and degrading. I also believe other people are allowed to humiliate and degrade themselves within a certain frame work. I also can believe those people should still be treated with decency and respect because how I treat others is not a comment on who they are, it's a comment on who I am. And no, if I didn't have that feeling, I still would hold personal values surrounding intimacy and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:59 PM

Honestly, I tend to think it's men projecting how they problem solve onto how women emotionally manage themselves. Most of the time we solved the problem already and we're just dealing with the feelings attached. And in some cases you can't solve the problem until you deal with the feelings. Either way. If you're asking for the deeper cut of the sexist side of me tho, I also think when I hear this: I find it laughable that the gender known for apologizing for things that aren't their fault and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:33 AM
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I get what you're saying, I guess I'd just put it like this: learning to ride a bike with training wheels still includes crashing and burning and tipping over....if you're paying women not give you real reactions, only constructive ones, I don't think this is exposure therapy in the sense you'd need. The first real life woman they deal with is going to shatter this small confidence on the first real interaction and she doesn't even have to be very bad, a simple cold scowl is going to undo most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:32 AM
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I don't think there's anything unclear, inconsistent, or lacking in accountability...like I have my bones to pick with feminism, but it's not on those fronts. No one has to be the provider, alimony is about whomever makes more, I keep telling y'all be broke Boyz. Don't tell me you want clarity and consistency and use nebulous ass terms like shared burden. You can in fact opt out of parenthood and a lot of men do. Most child support isn't paid, which suggests the men paying are choosing to. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:26 AM
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I don't believe you are this dense. OP asked about marriage, not just sex. I'm the married. I gave some advice about the why behind actions mattering. I then reflected on what I've experienced and seen with other women particularly those who are married some of whom are more chaste and some of whom more slutty. And then I gave across the board advice about how one can likely increase the sex output and greatness in their marriage based on the pitfalls I've experienced and or seen elsewhere. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:59 PM
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I love this nightmare reality is basically: men will be forced to occupy the position women did for hundreds if not thousands of years...! 😆😆😆 What's good for the goose is good for the gander on steroids. Ok, but no, most women don't like sharing men and do what true love. Where are the damn romantics at?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:47 PM
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You know what the beauty of being with one person is? Only their review counts. I feel for people who think being good at something means pleasing more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:24 PM
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It's cool. It's so weird to me as a woman to imagine looking at a stranger and finding them like hot and ready to go (respectfully). ...but it's not unappealing is the thing. Again, the podcast went over it, but having some meat is a signal of durability, ability to fight in terms of lasting, and having plenty of food. If you look at UFC fighters who aren't cutting down a weight class, they look extremely fit, but with a little extra, why? Cuz being gaunt isn't going to give you durability. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:12 PM
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Not defending such guys, but they usually only say that about sex. Their chief complaint is that women are picky about sex more than connection
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:41 PM
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I'm sure it sounds that way, but think of it this way: I look at say Arnold Schwarzenegger and I'm impressed by him and his body, I mean who even looks like that and how? Wow. But it isn't hot. I'm impressed by the things he did as a body builder, gee that's a lot to lift....but it's not hot in the way watching my husband throw a hay bail over his shoulder is hot. I mean, Ok. I mean this so like politely and kindly, but women are telling you otherwise and the science is as well. So I would inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:38 PM
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I can't say I've ever said nor seen this. What I will say is that why a woman does or doesn't have sex is really what a man should pay attention to if he's looking for lots of great sex. Now, a promiscuous woman may be a great option if she genuinely does it so much because she likes it so much. However, if she's doing it because she feels insecure, worthless, or like it's the only way to feel safe and validated...well then it's likely to disappear when married because she'll feel validated and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:51 PM
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It's not gay to fake flirting for fun and learning
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:26 PM
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I think...I find myself wondering how much any of this will translate for the good to real life for these men? I think and I'm going off the top of my brain here so forgive me: A core problem I see is that men are often treating women as if they're like a slot in a video game and interchangeable in the same way a sword or armor slot would be. And they seem to think you can learn some sort of cheat code that will allow you to exchange a lot of women through that slot and be pleasing...and I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:48 AM
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I think this is where the confusion is for a lot of men, something being impressive isn't the same as it being attractive. Swimmer's body if we're not talking about steroid use, which tbf, we probably are, still have a gauntness and unhealthiness to them...they don't look durable and they're showing signs of obsession. I'm sure you've come across some portion of women that express preference or interest in it, I don't doubt that, I just doubt they're interested in it compared to the guy type I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:20 AM
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O o most of the women I know honestly. I mean my BFF recently entered a relationship, but before that all she was dating was fit guys with a bit of extra around the middle. Her current man fits that same character of a dude who is fit with a little extra meet at the waist. I'm pretty sure Chris Williamson just had a researcher on that confirmed the body type you're describing impresses dudes, not ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:21 PM

Nope, I have ugly friends. I just don't date um.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:19 PM

I don't disagree I don't think in terms of low value naturally. I think i don't wanna be around this person or date them. But when in Rome, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:18 PM
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Agreed. Like, you're together. The time for games is ended. Now you talk and be direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:20 PM
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I like cooking. It's how I show love. I cooked for my husband before we were married and after. I don't think there's an issue with cooking for a man or such. I can see not being expected to cook or do certain chores for sure. Like my husband didn't assume there'd be dinner when he got home until we were married. He'd ask if I'm cooking or wanted to cook. And a lot of times he'd help and it was an activity together. I think women need to have those uncomfortable conversations about timelines and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:19 PM
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There's no such thing as naturally pairing up. Free will, baby. Choose those sugar mama's. Don't date broke babes. How much you want to do something is irrelevant to the ability. I don't want to go snowboarding, but I'd never say I can't. You can do this, there's no bias here. See point 1. 3. No, they usually get it because they apply for it. Men don't. It's extremely rare if both apply they don't get split custody. The man or woman has to pretty much punch the kid in front of the judge not to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:12 PM
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I don't think about the second part too often. I think the only time I've ever thought the second part was about a few Indian guys I've seen like that one actor with the unibrow. I don't get it. Like I just don't. I don't know what women is into that. Otherwise, I usually can imagine which girl is into him or that a girl would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:15 PM
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I say that and I'm a fit gym girly. You can bounce a quarter off my ass and I'm size XS or 32 30 34 measurements. I'm naturally slender and enjoy eating and being active. I like to cook, so I like a man who likes to eat. I've dated slender dudes and they're usually neurotic nightmares about food. I don't think of dad bod as fat. My husband has wonderfully fit arms, chest, legs, and he just carries a little extra at his middle and it looks great. He's beefy, not slender/skinny. And he's not that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:13 PM
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Pete Davidson is unattractive? I always think he's got goofy good looks combined with a "that guy is hot bad news" charm. I think you need a different average dude. What's going on with you? You've been on a crusade against nice guys this week and I thought we'd made progress. We agreed they're immature, but complicated creatures who need help understand attraction is complicated and not a morality contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:06 PM
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Knowing why you do what you do is a step in the direction of fixing it very often. But since you think women are denied the gift of failure in relationships, let me help: My first relationship (and look this one really really was on him for a lot of it): I learned that I didn't like having my affection bought and that allowing that was in large part my fault because I was encouraging this by being so pleased with treats and gifts and should have told him it wasn't a replacement for behaving appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:03 PM
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O o Validating others is a big part of emotional intelligence both for ensuring a closer connection and disagreeing with them. You've gotta show you're both listening and understand where they're at. And as much as possible as a couple, you try to occupy similar emotional places and know where the other is at. This often means adopting and mirroring where the other is at. This is the heart of relationships. My husband comes home pissed about work to my peaceful dinner is ready space and dependin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:18 AM
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Lmao. Bro, my status is way above $5 for two slices of pizza and an 8oz minute maid lemonade. If you think that's how I make sure other women know I'm formidable think again 😂😂😂 I tell them when I met my husband he owned two different kinds of soap, cologne, had a personal style that does not include baggy t shirts over ratty jeans, owned his own vehicle, had a middle level management job, is fit, hard-working, hilarious, handsome, does the dishes, cooks, is good with kids, and can carry on an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:12 AM
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When first meeting? Ugly, boring, creepy, or self-obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:27 AM

I mean, that's not exclusively about protecting women, that's about protecting a nation, but, I totally agree with abolishing the draft. Ten out of ten. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:40 PM

B All of the above Not entirely, but partially.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:11 PM

You know what, let's make this interesting: which part of men's roles would you like done away with? We aren't dating down and that's not at all connected to this topic. Which traditional gender roles would you like not to have applied to you that you believe still are? And no, pregnancy risks haven't been removed and saying so is laughable. Birth control is miserable to be on, I don't know any women who take abortion lightly, and if you want children you will pay in blood, sweat, tears, and per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:10 PM
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I'm sure this applies to some people in some relationships.... But I can't say it applies to me in mine or my friends. Most of us are happily married and the ones with struggles or complexities, have often been married the longest, got married the youngest, and are both immature and maturing in ways that cause conflicts and a need for resolution. I think seeing relationships in these transactional ways has some use, but also totally discounts the intangibles that draw people together. Like don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:08 PM

Nice try, FBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:01 PM
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I think you're trying to highlight that people getting very upset at a stranger declaring them creepy or hateful is a reasonable progression. And the problem is, I just don't see it that way so you've got a tough sale to make 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:19 AM
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I can't say it has ever happened, but if you're asking what do I do when an online stranger assumes something incorrect or uncharitable: I explain myself, usually calmly or if I don't really care or have time that day, I don't respond and move on....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:54 AM
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I wouldn't have said raging misogynist. I would have gone with creepy most likely, potentially selfish would be the next most likely word, and if I'm feeling spicy the suggestion perhaps some of what they're saying or doing comes off misogynistic. And it's online...yeah. Why do you think I should try something else? Cuz I gotta tell you this method has worked so well. The guys who aren't those things tend to react fairly mildly and just list how they approach women and their perspective or often…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:28 AM
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I'm happily married to an above average man. I've not felt the need to justify why I'm not attracted to someone since leaving my prior relationship. I swore off it. And I'm really not, I think people are attributing way too much malice to me. I'm seriously going, "there's basically three reasons a man fails to get dates - he's ugly, he's socially failing, and/or he's a creep". And then I read their paragraphs about being average looking, socially well adjusted, and I'm forced to assume it's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:15 AM
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Dude, you're acting like I'm crafting the box rather than receiving an already mostly crafted box with the missing part and going, "yeah, I mean assuming everything you've told me is correct...this is the piece that goes here". I think it's terrifically difficult to find a partner. I also think most of these men are probably a bit deluded about either their appearance or social acumen...but, I'll go off what they tell me because that's what you do when you barely know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:10 AM
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I mean, I think he's funny and clearly charismatic. He's a complete monster too, but I don't question those other qualities. He almost has to be charismatic and funny because otherwise he'd probably be dead from the things he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:08 AM
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I think is unlikely. I suspect it is more likely we end up at war in the next 5 to 10 years and that greatly impacts male population numbers in a way that helps increase the respectability and impressiveness of the men who survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:07 AM
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Yeah, but I assume they've thought of the whole how awful dating apps are for men thing. It's so easy to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:21 AM
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I hate to say that it is, but it really is. I've met lots of guys that were solid until they opened their mouth and said some out of pocket stuff. And when you've got a tate type running around...yeah. It's believable. Do I also think they may be lying about the other stuff....sure. But I don't instantly go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:21 AM
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Usually when complaining they are single they tell you that they're average looking, have normal hobbies, go out regularly, are sociap, have friends, are funny, and good at talking to others.... So all that's left is to assume they're bad/misogynistic. If you eliminate the other possibilities, that really is all that is left unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:58 AM
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I have to assume? But maybe definitional to being a "nice guy" is women not liking you? I dunno. This is one of those conundrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:00 PM
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It's both. He's upset for himself that as a non woman hitter he's getting no success and he's upset for that particular woman who he probably likes. We contain multitudes. You avoided my point, you don't have to be sympathetic to not be sneering. You can simply correct the,. I do it all the time as a school-teacher. I'm not sympathetic to misbehavior, but I am only going to give the correction of what should happen. This may be the case, it doesn't give you carte blanche to sneer. Their bad beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:35 PM
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Ahhh, I get where you're coming from. So, again, just what I'm seeing...when a man online complains that he's struggling with women, and let's give benefit of the doubt and assume he's not being like an overt dick (he's not calling women whores or something). I would sort of assume he'd mention if he's hideous. Like that's gotta be top of the list of what they'd say, right? So they didn't say that. This really only leaves two options: Moral Failing & Boring Failing. Now, in general the dudes who…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:21 PM
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You need both is my point. I think you just want to be outraged that being attractive to a woman means you're more likely to be forgiven for fucking up...particularly the younger she is and the more sympathetic she's feeling in that moment. How? If you can read the cues and you're attractive you'll know who to approach and won't have to be forgiven for being a blundering moron socially. If you're unattractive to that woman you'll know not to go to that dragon and thus avoid more pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:11 PM
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I think a lot of your struggle here is two parted: Part 1: Most women are potentially open to being approached at a bar/club if it is done by the right person, in the right way, and does not end with her spending the rest of her time at the club/bar with him or going home with him, and then they make plans for a future date via phone/text. Make sure you understand that: she needs to have signaled attraction to the man first, he needs to pick this up and appropriately handle it with a charming ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:16 PM
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100%. I think it's a very Oscar Wilde observation that the most immoral thing you can be is boring. Which obviously isn't like capital T true (I much prefer a bore to a murderer...but then again how often have we been in a conversation that felt like it could never end and we wondered if falling over dead might just be the easier thing to do).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:07 PM
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I don't think anyone lies to men about this. And before you tell me your mother or sister told you to just be nice, I have some bad news: your mother and your sister both thought you were fun and sexy (but not in a creepy way). Think it through: who do you probably look like if it's a family? Your dad. Who did your mother select and fall in love with: your dad. And she's your mom so she's naturally going to have blinders that her offspring are fun and appealing. Who is your sister going to inher…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:03 PM
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So, I think you're not understanding the dynamic exactly. The reason they don't grow from this immature mindset is because of the outrage and humiliation of seeing women choose less friendly men and the desire to save. And yes, they do need to, but if you want to get them out of that mindset you don't get there by humiliating them further. It is stunted growth, obviously it fits an arrested development framework...but you don't fix arrested development by constantly sneering and calling them chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:59 PM
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I think we can give nice guys a little better credit than this. While you're not fully inaccurate (in many cases, you're on the money), there is an underlying foundation of wanting to save women from the poor decisions many if not most of us make when we are quite young and inexperienced. I think this is actually a universal human experience given that Taylor Swift made some millions from expressing the exact same "You Belong With Me" cry of the heart. I think this is often combined if you're in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:24 PM
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I gave my explanation for why I thought it was betrayal light (there is a built in assumption to friendship that dynamics will change if a single person enters a relationship. This is true regardless of gender. The problem here isn't the change, it's the significance of the change and the person allowing their connection at all to be dictated by their new relationship. This is not the same as having a built in assumption of platonicness and then the friend bailing when they one-sided try to chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:11 PM
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Mahhh. Incorrect. The income thing is a non-starter unfortunately which is my point. If she wasn't dating you, she'd be working the exact same amount. So we cannot appeal to the hours worked as something being given to the relationship specifically. Like yes, it is nice to have two adults working towards the same goals and sharing costs, but her hours worked aren't altering if you two broke up or never got together. This is why the home life aspect is so key and if anyone (man or woman) isn't pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:20 AM
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I've never been hard up for male friends that greatly enjoyed talking to me and consider me apart of their inner circle. As for your fight scenario, I have a purple belt and I'm calling the cops. You know why, because that's what the black belts recommend too. You know why? Because fighting is dangerous. And I've been in a wheelchair and I don't see how that's going to help you any. Who is gonna help you in a wheelchair if I'm in one?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:12 AM
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This isn't very difficult: If you weren't in a relationship, you'd have all those chores. Therefore, being at work is not an out from the chores. They're separate entities. Now, obviously, if there's some unique and sudden change in a work schedule requiring more effort, yeah, it's normal to step up and do more. And yes, of course if you love someone you cover their tired and stressed times. But, what you don't do is pretend you aren't failing to uphold your portion of the household because you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:29 AM
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For the most part. Yeah. There's weeks where he could do more or I feel a bit lopsided, but I generally remind myself he's human and can get burnt out and tired same as me. And I'm sure there's weeks I let him down. He does the trash, a lot of the dishes, helps with the cats, does a lot of the laundry, all the snow removal, all the grunt work of chickens, mops, vacs. I think my only little niggling hang up is he never puts any of my laundry away while I always put his away when I get the laundry…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:38 PM
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You didn't really address anything I said so have a merry christmas!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:32 PM
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Just be flirty friends. Problem solved. Don't let a woman think you're entirely platonic nor be entirely erotic. We've been rejected. Trust me, we've been rejected. I stayed friends. I didn't punish them for my hurt. I handled it and if I needed space, I communicated that and then let them know I'd reach out as soon as I was able. This has been said often, but it does make sense: women tend to treat our friends not super differently from a boyfriend. This is in part why men struggle to add to ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:03 PM
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I think most people want a mix of both and there were be shifts throughout the lifetime of a relationship. When my husband and I met I would say things leaned traditional, but still mostly equal as much as they can for two people who live separately. He paid, I made it up by cooking and grocery shopping for the meals and him. He planned more things, and I emotionally cared for him. And I was the one who started pushing towards marriage and living together. When we got married I happened to be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:57 PM
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No, they're going where they're powerful, big difference. And they are going where cultural values are such they can buy women both literally (sex work) and also literally (it's common to marry and date someone for survival). They are not loved nor desired in the majority of these cases. And, then most go on to be emotionally and financially abusive to these women because that's really what a lot of these men are going to do for a variety of reasons. Stop being a babe in the woods and pretending…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:45 PM
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But it's a question only about house hours? And I'm pretty sure others have already pointed this one out to you so I'll let them have it. No, it's not. We desperately need all of these professions and still they aren't well paid. There are shortages across the board of women majority careers. I'm on indeed a lot of days and they're always hiring for this stuff because there's not enough. Ok, so you agree there's a problem with the wages here. That's what feminism as you call it is pointing out a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:42 PM

O.o I've never heard the flintstones is after the Jetsons and I just googled it and Google says I'm correct and you're wrong. But I'm truly open to you giving me evidence the stone age is after the space age. I watched the Flintstones Meet the Jetsons a lot as a kiddo and it always seemed to show the opposite of what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:36 PM
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I don't think of myself as inferior because I can't fix a toilet. I just think of my husband as impressive. Again, I think you're projecting how men see this, but I've rarely met a woman who thinks because she makes less money or can't change a tire that she's inferior to her man. And I care about being impressive to my husband and I want him attracted to only me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:34 PM
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Honestly: greatly increase the push for boys to enter trades, create opportunities for learning trade skills as hobbies. Take away screens of all types especially in childhood or greatly limit access especially to video games. Create nonprofits that are literally just male mentors taking boys out to help do yard work and efforts around the home for elderly folks or people with newborns. Similarly, cooking classes and other creative classes targeted towards boys to give them opportunities to deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure that study he's citing badly says much the opposite of his claim about fathers...but it has been a minute since I read it....I am suspicious of choosing a blog post over the study itself and by such a biased source. With that said, there isn't a pay gap, there's a wage gap, which is to say that as a society generally (note the lack of gendered language) we have determined that jobs which are majority women (caregiving positions of all types) should be paid lower than jobs which a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:31 AM

Nope, I'm saying radical is decided based on the status quo. I wasn't making a value judgement. That's why I chose cartoons with virtually the same plots and characters only one has a futuristic sense and the other the past. Radical is also a reference to violence/ danger. It is radical in Nazi Germany to hide jews (not status quo). It is also radical how Nazi Germany behaved (danger and violence). Women's liberal values doesn't fit the status quo nor danger and violence definition. There was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:02 PM

Let me put it to you this way: if the whole world becomes like the Jetsons and you refuse to join and keep living like a Flinstone....you are ideologically radical. Now, yes to you, the rest of the world will seem ideologically radical....but they aren't the ones ignoring the forward march of time and there's more of them and their ideology is running the halls of power more. Ok, so if you now consider that men are more disagreeable and women are more agreeable, you're going to get a tendency fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:13 PM
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I don't. I think any man who can build you a house and bring home the bacon and fight a war is impressive. I know this because women are still impressed by such men. Necessity doesn't change what is impressive, it just means you may have to settle for someone unimpressive. I think you're also greatly underestimating how this relationship evolves. I've seen my husband puking his guts up, with the flu, getting his ass kicked, cry, being a total unrepentant asshole, a coward, I mean I know the wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:22 PM
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So, I think this is tough, and nuanced. Lifting and that kind of gym are typically very solitary activities and it's not really a hobby or sport per say. By which I mean not every working out is a hobby. There's running and there's being a runner and there's being in a running club. There's lifting, there's being a lifter, and there's being in a lifting club. If you're in clubs, yes. If you're someone that does this stuff for competitions and you're talking to someone else who wants to compete o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:17 PM
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So, look, I basically agree with you that men want a fangirl, which is what you're describing. Side note, this isn't gendered. Both genders fantasize about being basically average and yet someone who sees what is rare and special about them beneath the surface or within their potential. I would even go so far as to say this is the basis of pretty much all relationships romantic, platonic, and otherwise. So if we agree about that, the natural question is: what must one do to be fangirled over? An…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:00 PM
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I'm not assuming, this is the purpose of going there. It is the tone and underlying conceptualization of all passport bros (which are distinct from men who happen to meet a lady abroad and fall in love). The mental process is "I can't get my way here, but over there I can exploit differences of culture, money, and power to get to have my way". How do we know this beyond them actually literally saying it...because they don't passport bro in 1st world countries or even often high level second. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:42 PM
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If I say I don't want to have sex with someone, it doesn't mean I respect, endorse, or think they should go to another country and take advantage of a vulnerable, down on her luck, in some/many cases human-trafficked woman. These things are unrelated things. The fact women in their own country do not share their feelings is not an indication at all it is acceptable to go purposefully try to create a power dynamic in which they can get what they want at the expense of someone else. Do I agree thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:11 PM

I mean, depending on the discussion, if they aren't following the definition (which they often aren't), they are doing it wrong. Telling them how to do it right isn't necessarily required to know someone did it wrong. I don't know how to paint a beautiful picture, but I know when a picture isn't beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:53 PM

I think I gave a definition for flirting. If someone wants me to explain various techniques, I can in fact do that too, but I didn't think it the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:08 PM
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All relationships are about both people in them having the same internal concept of what that relationship is whether this is romantic, platonic, or familial. If my cat doesn't want to be my little snuggle-munch, then no matter how much I see it like that, I'm going to get clawed. Now, human relationships are a little more complicated because we don't always have explicit ways of saying or demonstrating what the attachment is. (Snuggle-munch doesn't climb up and purr while I pet and sing cutesy …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:07 PM

I did explain how to flirt, that's much easier to articulate than "why do women believe they can detect bad vibes off of a person?" As for why to say...because men are insisting we can't do it when we clearly can. And often you learn to explain by trying to explain badly many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:54 PM
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I think the socially divorced nature of our culture and cellphones is a keener explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:52 PM
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I went through this in my first relationship and decided to never date a man like this again. If I look back, I think he had very anxious attachment (in his case, I believe caused by the double whammy of autism making it difficult for him to read intentions and having learned at a very tender age his father likely wasn't his biological father due to his mother suffering SA). I've only since had friends like this and all of them were men. So, I'm going to say this isn't gendered, this is an attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:51 PM
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I mean, I think it has downsides and the expectation can be exhausting especially if it's not returned (which it so rarely is by the opposite sex). I think it makes for a better society overall so I'm not prepared to throw the baby out with the bath water. I do think men would benefit greatly from adopting this. It serves everyone exceedingly well to be considerate and nurturing on a genuine level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:39 PM
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I mean, I can't speak for other women, but I'm very romantic in my relationships and particularly with my husband. I'd probably have been more romantic on first dates if I'd known they were first dates (I'm a little dense). And don't talk down on the showing up and looking super cute thing. It takes a lot of work to show up looking super cute in a way meant to really appeal to a man without being a flat out skank. What is romance if not effort to please a romantic partner particularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:36 PM
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How are you defining physically intimate (I'm assuming you mean hanky panky). I know about one and she's very religious/conservative. And even she's starting to let herself go. I also don't think there's quite a few men like this, I'm just being honest. They either ain't actually good looking and/or there aren't really that many of them at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I would agree there has to be something they're picking up on that I'm not and articulating that for them is well impossible for obvious reasons. I'm aware the deficiency is in my ability to comprehend dogs in a detailed manner. I think the same is basically true here. We can't always explain and some men can't always understand...that doesn't mean we aren't picking up on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:28 PM
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I want to be clear, I have met a version of high potential, I'm not at all unhappy to have been an exceptional fundraiser for wonderful nonprofits, worked in industries helping disabled/sick kids, and now working as a teacher. I'm happy to be a wife, I hope to be a mother, and I love to cook, it's a key hobby of mine. BUT, I do wonder who I might have been if there had been higher expectations of my STEM skills. Would I perhaps be a doctor or researcher or vet? I adored biotechnology and particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:26 PM
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I didn't. You denied it first, buddy. I left open the possibility things had changed in my response to you. I'm not surprised that cultures which do not value female choice have less women choosing things that tend to draw in more women. My question surrounds what happens if (and I believe this happens now so I am referencing the past), how people are influenced if they are equally encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:20 PM
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Is it possible I've simply had a different life experience in my corner of paradise compared to you? Or are you the only real boy in this Nutcracker Ballet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:52 AM
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But when I tell the men to go gay, I'm the bad guy! HArumph
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:51 AM
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I think I was on that thread and it really is hard to explain things like this. I mean it's like explaining why do dogs freak out about some people and not others. Like, I dunno, but dogs are often onto something. Like how do women know men with bad intentions and toxic whatever. I dunno, man, it's not a perfect science, I'll tell you that. The entire character of Homelander is built on the fact it's not a perfect science. But, it's not total bullshit either. It's something in the eyes, the jaw,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:49 AM
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It's more literally in my case as I mentioned to someone else. I was homeschooled for the majority of my schooling and my parents both praised and pushed my brothers more on that front because it was perceived as masculine. By the time I was in high school, and again, a lot has changed since then, it was still pretty common to push boys towards stem compared to girls. There was a push to correct that obviously more recently, but I wasn't part of that era.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:34 AM
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Everyone has been through that experience, including myself. You learn what you have to do to get the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:32 AM
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I was homeschooled first and my parents both were much more complimentary and pushing of my brothers on that front despite the fact we had the same grades. When I got to high school, same thing. My brothers received more praise and attention and pushing to pursue it as were most of the other boys compared to girls in my classes. I'm not talking about homework and while I'm sure a lot has been done since the 90s, it was once well documented that boys were receiving greater pushing and helping to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:31 AM
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I'm not sure the ability to not deny the obvious is what you want to connect voting rights with here, bucko. Most men I know can be holding their own detached arm and claim they don't need a doctor. I'm just saying, disagreeability and stubbornness to reality is much more of a male trait typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:30 PM
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I'm not sure we look at respect the same way. You seem to be conflating it with attention...I'm not convinced I'd follow that. There's lots of people I respect who I'm not always giving my attention to and lots of people who receive attention I do not respect. I don't know this invisible woman complaint, but sure, I believe you. Again, I don't think being invisible is disrespect. It suggests you've done nothing to earn the floor so to speak. Maybe. I dunno. It doesn't strike me I would miss the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:20 PM
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If you think women don't need to prove themselves for respect, I mean kinda...in the sense you mostly can't achieve respect because most men don't like respecting women in the richest sense of the word. I never liked being seen as young in the first place. There's very little to recommend youth particularly as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:59 AM
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No. Let me help you know how most women feel: Dying alone with our cats > Arranged Marriage A bad relationship > Arranged Marriage Marrying our female best friend platonically > Arranged Marriage Lavender Marriage > Arranged Marriage The fact some men propose arranged marriage says pretty much all that can be said about how those men view the prospect of a female life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:30 AM
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Yeah. I love my life, but I honestly wonder who I would be if I hadn't had one parent only encouraging me to be a wife and mother, two constantly limiting me due to fears of safety or appropriateness, and gotten the help I needed in math and been encouraged in stem, and the other holding me to insanely strange standards of cooking, cleaning, and mildness that were not even somewhat put onto my brothers. I'm also very competent so I trust in myself and have often been frustrated by not having tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:24 AM
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Your musical preference is accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:20 AM
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Don't listen in. This is what the Attack on Titan soundtrack is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:40 AM
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100%. I also think the tip toeing has a habit of being misread by the guy as some interest in him because it's being overly considerate. So it often gives a false hope. If a crush isn't returned, it is kindness and love to make that clear in no uncertain way and try to kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:34 PM
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I mean, anything can be reduced. Yes, I would assume a smile and thank you is involved, but the devil would be in the details: her expression's little tics, the words she surrounds the thank you with, how heartfelt it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:29 PM
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I mean, I think the first date is the man showing generosity and the woman showing how she receives generosity (and I don't mean sex, I mean if you buy someone really anything, their thanks should feel good, right? So if she doesn't say thank you in a way that makes you feel special, well, she kind of sucks). Post that, I think the next date would likely involve at least an attempt at generosity (she should offer to pay or I usually brought bread I baked or a little trinket/snack that made me th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:34 PM
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I'm married. So, I'm not dating. But, when I was, I dated some guys who didn't pay and I dated some guys who paid. Over time, I found that the guys who paid were the sorts of guys who I was most compatible with as a romantic, let's do life together sort of partner. So now if my husband god forbid wasn't around and I chose to re-enter dating, I would date men who pay, I'm not interested in the guys who aren't here to be impressive and I want to learn how they behave when they feel they've generou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:21 PM
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I really don't want you to turn it down a million notches because the absurdity makes the point. There's probably not a level of girl hot enough to get most dudes to do that who weren't already SOMEWHAT interested in trying that. I'm going to tell you the worst kept secret of giving head: almost nobody likes to do it in and of itself. It's almost always about putting on a show and pleasing your partner. Do I believe there are girls you're willing to please more than others? Sure, do I think it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:17 PM
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Everyone regardless of gender wants a partner with amazing nunchuck skills. That's just a universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:50 PM
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To kill his fantasy and the crush stone dead. It's not kind to leave people thinking they have a chance or what if or maybe she's just gonna notice me. If he hasn't let go of the crush pretty soon after being rejected tougher medicine is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:43 PM
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Assuming later isn't like a week later, I wouldn't think about it much. At that point we'd have gone through a distancing process while he gets over the rejection and then a return to normalcy. If he hasn't gone through that, then honestly the best thing I can do for him would be: Introduce him to my boyfriend so he gets a clear picture of what I like and how he ain't it so he can move on and let things go. And if he can't, then he'll have to confront that and end our friendship. No, I wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:25 PM
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In order to value that, I would have to believe people are reliable observers and narrators of their own lives...and I don't. I believe you believe that. I'm not calling you a liar. I also believe you are nightmarishly projecting onto things with a much more reasonable and clean explanation available. Again, people don't just suddenly stop doing things they like. And people don't have some hotness tier of pussy, mouth, butthole. Do you think men sit around like, "for a woman hot enough I'll let …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:18 PM
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I don't think so. If men said they don't expect a woman to have sex with them quickly and audaciously, I would agree, they're just choosing the ones who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:13 PM
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I largely agree with the overlap and desire to gamify. I just see that coming from a place of trauma. I also don't see some uncomfortable truth or comforting lie here so that could be where the rest of our disagreement arises from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:12 PM
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Blue Pill = just not red or black pilled. People are unique, diverse, capable of love, defy easy explanations, and trying to examine dating like it's economics is caused by unaddressed trauma or mental struggles, not reason or rationality (and I say that from a gentle and kind place. I really just see men here who need help and are in a lot of justified ways and not so justified not getting it). I don't think I have some road to Damascus moment here. I see people find each other all the time in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:57 PM
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Such as? Because I've never seen nor met this woman. It's like saying someone who really enjoys potato chips suddenly refuses to eat them. It just doesn't make any sense if they actually liked potato chips. This is just anxiety and catastrophic thinking. Ahhh, I get it. You think enjoying sex is dependent on the type of man....and not in the mechanical sense. Doesn't add up, chief. Women who like suckimg dick like sucking dick. And there's not some tiered system in that direction. We either want…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:36 PM
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Most drug addicts take pride in their experiences too. Humans are most often proud of their self destruction...especially if they believe healthier pastures are out of reach. So no, won't chill out with that. I've yet to me a woman who went from crazy slut to "I don't do that anymore" who hadn't made that journey because they deeply regretted that behavior and were doing it from a place of deep hurt. And the men who try to force them to remain in that place of deep hurt in order to try to cure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:41 PM
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My ultimate goal, close up shop here and move forward to the fascists and the communists. Or maybe the cats v dogs people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:12 AM
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Well, to give some perspective, I was homeschooled and sheltered. Never been to prom. And there's times I pass teenage girls who are getting gussied up for prom or buying dresses or see some tlc style show, and have a sort of wistful longing for a place I've never been and a life I never had...and then I ask myself would I change this if I knew similar to Back to the Future it would have cataclysmic potential. Am I really that unhappy with how my life turned out? And the answer is no. And I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:31 AM
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I think men often willfully pretend this isn't what it is, so let me help you for yourself: I don't expect a man to pay, I will simply choose the man who does. Whatever you want from women, don't expect it, simply choose the woman who does whatever that thing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:08 PM
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We didn't consent tho. That is factually true. Your argument that you don't need our consent to bother us isn't the win you think it is because while technically true it does two things: Is just another example of men trying to get around needing women's consent for access to them which is a bad look . 2. Ignores the existence of contexts where consent it quite literally being given thus increasing odds of success greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:49 PM
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Not at all. It's a time wasted factor. Assume eliminating an answer takes 10 seconds. Men have less answers to eliminate thereby more quickly reaching the "none of the above". Women are still eliminating yesterday's answers when the next daily quiz comes. We're backlogged badly in a way men aren't. Again, it's a value call, not a fact thing. Would you rather have dead time knowing nothing may ever come along or be up to your ears and also know nothing may ever come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:47 PM
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If you don't want to be dealing with the creature from the black lagoon who just wants her groceries being nasty...yes. But maybe all that talk of rejection beating men down is just talk. Maybe you do it to yourselves by going up to women who clearly aren't in the mood and then get treated like the impolite bore that you're behaving like?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:44 PM
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This isn't asked in good faith at all. Have a merry Christmas!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:42 PM
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I don't disagree that a man is evil for this. It's decorum not ethics. A man who approaches a lady without introduction centuries ago isn't evil, it's just impolite and likely to end badly. And while consent may not be required to speak obviously, a smart person reads the room and figures out how welcome they'll be. And the more obvious it is that they'd be unwelcome, the more they're technically violating an unspoken marker of not consenting. Put simply, public space isn't consent and we all kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:42 PM
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Dating apps are their own hell with a warning sign and everything. There be dragons and angels fear to tred. Irl, that disappears and their only struggle is in learning to situate themselves is contexts in which they can get to know women who may be interested in return. Yes, dating is never ideal for anyone. But its the difference between time wasted in buckets and tea spoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:39 PM
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Dude, consent is literally all there is. How much the shifting and changing nature of it is annoys you isn't a flaw of consent. Yes, I don't consent to any vague romantic or sexual interaction with people I'm not attracted to. Frankly, I go further, it's my husband only. The target isn't moving, it's stable. It feels like it's moving because it's different for different people with context dictating some obvious yes and no. It's called reading the room, not mind reading. If you're not capable of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:36 PM
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I think you're struggling with the concepts of consent and decorum. My acceptance of or desire towards male sexuality isn't some fickle bullshit that turns water to wine. It's the core component of what makes a man chasing skirt and talking that certain way to me acceptable. I don't approve of porn, but, as a libertarian it is way more difficult for me to argue against a woman who wants to sell her body in that way choosing to do so freely because she consented to the creeping. I still find the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:44 PM
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Men and their obsession with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:39 PM
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Getting any matches at all is certainly harder for men for a whole variety of reasons. And I can imagine that hurting in a whole lot of specific ways...but it doesn't really necessarily do a whole lot concerning finding the one (either for a season, a reason, or a whole life). There's a natural assumption that makes some twisted sense that more is more, but more is just a cacophony when it's not a right answer. I think of a daily quiz so to speak. Men are complaining that most days there's no an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:38 PM
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I'm sorry for anyone who has that much internalized shame and I hope they can work their way to a healthier place. With that said, I'm not sorry if men are receiving the message they need a greater reason to talk to a woman than "Grok want pussy and she pretty". And I'm glad to know that regardless of political affiliations women are holding the line on that standard. It suggests to me that we have a decent level of consistency in our agreement this is not a safe nor appetizing prospect and men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:25 PM
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My husband knew I was head over heels for him. That wasn't in question. 🤣 It was a "we either have to do this or I need to move on so I can have the things I want and I love you so if this isn't what you want, I want you to have what you want too".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:50 PM
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Here's a wild thought: what if women do what women have traditionally done for most of history and they do both? What if they raise children and keep a home while working in capacities flexible enough to still bring in the bacon and where they struggle with this balancing act they rely on the community and village they curate in their spare time for help with their children? It's just crazy enough to work unless of course you have a problem with women being traditional like that? You know what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:46 AM
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Last I checked their age of first exposure was a little older and they don't habit form with it the majority of the time. When they do, yes, it is absolutely damaging. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn....the struggle herein is that this is much more dangerous to young boys because they're more interested in it for any number of reasons. But no, I'm not in favor of young girls watching porn either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:49 AM
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Sure, but that means we have to leave. If I don't ever leave my husband, I'll have been committed to him faster and longer. Then what? Huh? Does you abacus have a setting for dem apples? I dunno, my experience from looking at past relationships is that in all cases outside of my husband, the men were more eager than me to commit and to stay committed. If I try to attribute why, I wouldn't say it's because they were any more happy than I was in the relationship, they just weren't unhappy enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:46 AM
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I think you're getting too old for this. I'm sorry to say exposure is happening younger and younger. I'm not pleased with this and I'm clearly not saying this to demonize little boys or blame them in any way. This is a failure of adults to appropriately protect children from predatory manufacturers. The way most males are first exposed to sexuality and women is through porn. You need to imagine these very young boys are then turned loose without much guidance to try to date their young girl peer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:30 AM
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Friend. I'm competent enough to lead myself and others. But I wouldn't accept a partner who isn't a leader in the way you describe a leader (,basic ass adult).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:33 AM
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I really don't think this is the problem. I think phones, prioritizing online life, and a lack of third spaces is really where any struggles you see are coming from. What you're mentioning is tangential at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:03 PM
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The more traditional definition of paranoia I've always operated from: intense distrust and suspicion of others, believing they intend to harm you, even without reason, often involving delusions of persecution, leading to defensiveness, hostility, isolation, and difficulty trusting or compromising. I remember the way my counseling textbook put it (and this still amuses me): it would be like believing the government is out to get you and following you everywhere (unless they actually are). The pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:02 PM
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No, it just shows that men's idea of enthusiasm for sex is drugged out barely disguised pain from women? Again, if you think porn is even a semi realistic portrayal of female lust, I can't help you. Like I can't. It's so far from that it's why men are struggling to be pleased with normal women. Yeah, I'm not on cocaine and barbiturates so I can get through the act. I'm excited, I'm not deranged and pretending not to be in pain while reading a hack line. I'd be more interested in why sexual inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:40 PM
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We aren't paranoid about men, we've been dealing with creepy and evil men since we were small children (literally average age in my social circles was 9). Many of us have been assaulted or know someone who has. Our family members raised us not to go places alone specially at night because of how dangerous some men can be. This isn't personal or overblown, it's reality if you're a woman. We aren't making it up to be mean or haughty. 2. Our sexuality doesn't work like yours and we're not broken be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:50 PM
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We're so thankful you haven't chosen vengeance 🤣 I've never hit a man. Stop dating abusive women? Leave. You deserve to be safe and not hit. Know you deserve that. Most women aren't hitting their men. Can you give us examples of petty mistakes? Because I've only yelled over major mistakes. And I've only yelled over repeatedly made mistakes that really bother me and I've said it a dozen times before because the issue is no longer the petty mistake, it's the pattern of disrespect. And that's proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:34 PM
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If porn is showing what you wish for, I'm not surprised if things aren't going well with the ladies. That's all I can say to this. If my man tried porn sex on me, he'd be a husband pining for sex too cuz my cervix and pride wouldn't handle that more than once a month with ibuprofen before and after.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:27 PM
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Is that possibly because women aren't fantasizing persay because relationships do often have the components of a rom com while sex and sexuality are rarely if even like porn? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:56 PM
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I wouldn't agree romantic comedies and porn are comparable. For starters, my husband is tall dark and handsome and does the right thing. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:45 PM
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You want me to specify that which is inherently based on different cultures/values. I can't do that really. I can say a lady will look pretty different if you're deep south conservative compared to northern conservative. Gentleman will equally vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:44 PM
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Same. The amount of days I could push my husband's family off a cliff are just the ones with day in them. But, I value that he remains committed to them and does his best with their stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:41 PM
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I mean, be a gentleman is vague too. But, it would depend some on your culture obviously. But generally: 1. Dress attractively 2. Always look pretty, smell nice, and look put purposefully put together. 3. Speak pleasantly and warmly to others. 4. Make others feel welcomed and looked after. 5. Include people in the conversation especially if they struggle with including themselves. 6. Be mindful of your words and the impact they will have especially on Men. 7. Don't give sexual access easily. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:53 PM
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I value: Integrity Empathy Responsibility Honesty Self Control Kindness and Interest in Children Handiness Treating me like a Lady Family Connection (even if your family is fucking cuckoo bananas) Community Service Oriented
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:17 PM
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I think you're over-looking the fact most males begin consuming porn when they're like 10. Which is well before the age of dating and sex. They haven't failed at anything yet. By the time they reach dating age, they've already deeply ingrained this damaging and harmful habit, worldview, and action. It's not clear this doesn't impact their ability to date causing the failure, but there's some connections there. Then the failure doubles down on this habit. But the habit didn't form because of fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:14 PM
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Keep your hands to yourself. This was just a generic lesson. I'm not sure why men needed it repeated and clarified to include women. Be a lady. 3. Don't use him for sex or money. 4. Treat him like a king. Men don't have a monthly cycle, so there's no equivalent. Start bleeding and we'll get something on the books? I've never heard this porcelain dolls one myself. But I can say an equivalent one was don't expect him to be like your girlfriends. I'm curious why you answered my question with a ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:06 PM
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Could you perhaps tell us what you think wifely and maternal duties are we haven't been taught?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:09 AM
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What makes you think they aren't taught how to respect people? I was taught that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:07 AM
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I think saying men give too much credit is giving men too much credit. I think you're just seeing male disagreeability and lack of consideration for others. It isn't that they care and determined the younger person is fine...they don't give a flying fuck. They don't see looking after others in this way as their business. And if they do think about it, I would say a significant majority will fall into two camps: 1. Yeah, it's a little icky, but what can I do? 2. Good for him getting that young Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:01 AM
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I think it's largely the same for both -do you have fun with them -do you feel challenged to be a better self with them? -do you feel supported by them in your dreams and endeavors -is most of your communication healthy and fair? -do you feel inspired by them in some way? -do you feel largely safe with them? -would you enjoy a road trip with them? -can you sit across the table for a meal and be glad they're there -If sex wasn't on the table would you still want them in your life? -even when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:55 AM
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I'm more pro death or abandoned on an uncharted desert island girl...but I could see it being semi effective to reduce sexual assault or crimes against children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:46 AM
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Yeah, then. I think natural biological differences will emerge well naturally and this will cause differences in various areas, but, overall I think equality is good and appropriate. I too can open a pickle jar, I just so happen to know my husband can do it without going through a Shakespearean tragedy 3 Act Play to do so. And I appreciate how good he is at opening very tight jars. I don't think this makes him some ultimately superior being who should be the only one voting, but, if the question…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:11 PM
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I don't. But it seemed funny to say under this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:28 PM
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Probably, that game can literally last forever if people are unlucky enough. I played that once for 3 hours with my little brother and both of us wanted out by hour 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:27 PM
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A lot of us really like sushi and macaroni & cheese
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:24 PM
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Explain the Wayfair scandal in one sentence ^ This man won.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:24 PM
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Can I get a definition of equality? I quite enjoy being a woman. If you mean would I make it so I didn't have to be the one to gestate and birth a baby, yes. If you mean do I think I should have equal standing in society and the law, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:22 PM
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Yes and No? No: There are certain subcultures and cultures which will inherently prevent you from succeeding in the overwhelming majority of cases. Like if you're trying to get someone of a staunch faith or ethnofaith and you ain't in that club. I guess you could convert, but even still you'd have a pretty rough road ahead to be accepted truly such that you could successfully marry their women. I also think this applies to certain subcultures like say Goth. Like Goth Girls GENERALLY date Goth Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:55 PM

I did, indeed. However, this man is not displaying much competence surrounding rational argumentation, logic, nor creative thinking. And rather than consider this to be a failing in and of itself, it must be my fault as a silly incompetent woman because he's invented a world in which incompetence has a gender. Albert Einstein had a penis. Guess who else had a penis? Elon Musk. And you know who else? Thomas Edison. They're really holding the team average up with guys like this around. Seriously, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:43 PM

This is like when I asked my one student what marginalized meant and he told me he needed a synonym for it...I told him it was in his essay and surely he'd written his essay. (He didn't, AI). It's your argument. Not mine. I'm not here to assemble your work for you. You assemble your argument, you assemble the evidence, you make it compelling, coherent, and reasonable. I think you've bit off more than you can chew, but I'm prepared to learn I'm incompetent because I've never invented anything. :D…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:23 PM
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I'm married. I do all sorts of things I'd selfishly rather not to see my husband smile or at ease. Don't project your lack of communication in your relationships on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:21 PM

You can. I would require strong evidence that invention is the definitive sign of competence. And I would keep in the chamber the counter argument that most men have invented nothing therefore most men are incompetent by your logic...which I'm sure you'll be prepared for when you bring me this evidence that invention is the definitive sign of competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:19 PM
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I'm a woman. I have these conversations. So does my mother and her mother and many women I know. We get through it fine. So...let's first assume you continually choose unreasonable or forgetful women and then you punish them for this. That's not very reasonable of you. Or, possibly, you haven't really talked this out in a useful way. You've just said no and wait without finding a useful alternative to give that short term gratification/indication of movement. Like going looking even if you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:54 AM
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No, in most of those cases we're literally talking about talking out your goals, aspirations, and schedule with the person you want in your life so that they can be on the same page and support you working hard or plan when you're not working so they can be with you. The only case which required you to do something was 1....and even them we're talking about casually house hunting which can be planned and scheduled around other responsibilities. If it pleases the partner you want, yes. It also wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:40 AM
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The burden of a date in nature and starting the house hunting process. 2. A conversation. 3. Having a schedule and sticking to it and a conversation. 4. Communication or a present. It's weird because I'd think most of this pretty common to a loving relationship with someone I want to please and keep around. I don't just leave my house and tell my husband to figure it out because he's an adult. Do you find talking to your lover difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:25 AM

For all the evidence, you couldn't even give me one. I mean golly, even Mr. Chaka can lead me to his dish and shriek about it. I'm starting to think my cat has superior reasoning skills (he had a good teacher). Now you're pretending we asked you to film a major motion picture about it. This sort of retreating into extremes....is this a common problem for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:22 AM

I won the battleground in case you're wondering. Not bad for a woman. And I did it while slapping you around and petting my lovely cat Mr. Chaka. You know, sometimes Mr. Chaka does unreasonable things too like insist without strong evidence that his supper dish is empty. And when I confront him about this, he also pretends I'm a moron for thinking because there's some kibble in the dish it isn't empty. And if I put my hands on my hips like I did with you, he just kind of scream meows until I eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:20 AM

I'm sure in your world this second assertion without evidence probably works. But here in the world of logic, you are on strike two as you've not provided evidence women are incompetent. You've submitted a sub argument about impact, but impact is not definitional to competence unless you'd like to submit evidence it is. I want you to know, while I'm destroying you with facts and logic, I'm also winning my battleground against what I can only assume is a largely male player base.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:17 AM

So I can has cheezeburger? By which I mean do you have any evidence for this assertion because my dismiss without evidence finger is feeling awfully itchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:48 AM
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Take them to the park and begun house hunting to signal action is underway to find a house with a yard. Work less or sit them down to have a conversation about financed and goal for the future in order to agree about how you need to work. 3. See above or involve them in the studying. Set times to study and times to hang out. Bring them on the trips, tell them about the trips ahead of time so they can arrange to be with friends or family. Get them a pet. I'm here all week if you need more help ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:30 AM
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So we're finally agreeing this behavior is a mirror of their relationship with their parents...and that this behavior is a result of permissive or perhaps authoritarian parenting? Finally a breakthrough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:26 AM
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Weaponizing feelings is not gender specific. Every man I've dated or befriended with the exception of my husband has done this to me. I give everyone one strike and warn them never again, otherwise I chock it up to a mistake and let it go. I recommend men do the same. People blunder, it doesn't mean they're unsafe. Mistakes happen. Just be clear with your expectations. From my perspective, we do want to know what's going on with you...the problem is that this often comes too little and too late …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:24 AM

Again, grooming is a very specific term and I'm using it very specifically. It's not connotation. If you don't understand what it means, that's a you problem. And no, an 18 year old doesn't consent to sex the same as a 30 year old. No one thinks this. They can of course consent, but no, this is not the same because experience levels are not the same. Only morons are predators see an 18 year old and a 30 year old as indistinguishable. And I assume you're neither. If mutual attraction is your bar,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:14 AM

I think if you think grooming is flirting you have not even an entry level of what grooming is and there's many resources available to help you understand. I use the term predator for the accuracy of preying on weakness and vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:11 AM

A: I don't think they can in let's say 99% of cases have an otherwise normal relationship. But that's not what you really asked. They groom them from younger ages and then cash in for sex when their victim turns 18. This leaves their victims with all the problems of someone who was groomed plus some more because now they feel responsible. This can fucking wreck someone's life for anywhere between multiple years and forever as they're unable to trust themselves or other people. Let's assume it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:18 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to him, I can't say it's perfect, but it works really well when you do your best to steer clear of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:12 PM

With my go go gadget social status thermometer. It's extremely difficult is the real answer, it's a hard call once you allow for such a myriad of traits to be influential. I think, most of us know it when we see it, ultimately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:58 PM

I love that you think predators won't wait until they're 18. Really just...no that seems like a very nice worldview. I hate to shatter it, but I will tell you a significant amount of these age gaps began before the age of 18 as a trusted friend or mentor or so forth and they wait until the kid turns 18 so now it's not a crime. Grooming 101. I also beyond this, just disagree. Again they have agency. They can live alone. Responsible parents can't stop this, only guide away. I also think most peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:11 PM
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I don't know how you ask people out, so I cannot say it's impossible, but lots of guys in my communities have asked me out that I wasn't interested in (I give that impression a lot because I'm bubbly). We laugh about it now and at the time I was still comfortable because they were all very sweet and mature about their ask. I'm sure I mentioned it to a few other girls I was friends with, but it was never with a tone of this person is a creep. More just like, this dude asked me out and I feel bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:06 PM
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Literally me and my husband's love story is a shared interest becoming chatting in the parking lot becoming grabbing pizza becoming attending a community new years eve party becoming a kiss becoming more and more. This is how stuff usually happens actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:58 PM
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I've never heard this and rejection shouldn't mean severing all ties. At most it means some distance while people get over it and return to sharing a community. Read the room, only confess if you think there's a greater than 60% chance of it working.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:54 PM
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I'm not recommending asking every pretty girl in your community with a pulse out. I'm saying actually fancy a girl and then ask her out. You won't get a rep for asking a few girls out per year. This is just paranoia. Don't act like a fuckboi and you won't be considered one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:52 PM
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That is not what I've recommended at all. They should be developing connections slowly and when they really really fancy a girl, get to know her specifically in a lightly flirtatious way and if it seems like there could be a good future ask her out. I'm not recommending anything else. Going from girl to girl without a care who or what she is would be stupid and no better than cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:38 PM
4

Why would it poison the group and community with romantic failures? You're talking to someone who has been through this process. It doesn't harm anything if you handle things maturely and gracefully. Just be careful not to be a dick or take things too personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:18 PM
3

Oh, I mean, take it gracefully, be a bit sad about it, lick your wounds, and then wait until someone else catches your eye as they so often inevitably do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:11 PM
4

Why are you rejected? Did you do something awful? Are the people in those communities awful? I'd need more info.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:09 PM

They should both know better, but the older man should really know better. And it's the kind of abuse. Grooming REALLY fucks people up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:00 PM

I'm a big sister. I have a decade on my younger siblings. I was literally starting the process of dating while they were still in diapers and now I'm married just as they are starting the process of dating. Do you think I believe they aren't free to date? Do you think I think they are not free to get an abortion? NO. Do I think I know more about the world and how people operate than they do? Yes. Do I think it is my responsibility to impart that wisdom in such a way as to perhaps protect them fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:58 PM
14

I think you should have an active and thriving social life and a position in one or more communities that mean you naturally meet some amount of women and know them at a surface level and then if one strikes your fancy, you get to know her and consider dating. People forget, warm approaching is real. Do I think you HAVE to do this...no, but it is by far the most successful approach to the problem of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:36 PM

I also use my parents relationship (and my husband uses his) as an example of what not to do. We've been both following the opposite of their examples and happily married for 8 months. Both of our parents sets were already miserable at this point. I think we could honestly just ask them what they'd do in any given scenario and then do the opposite and we'd thrive. Which is sad that it may be so easy to fix their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:56 AM
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Yes, I wasn't saying otherwise. Both can be good and both can be bad. And mostly, people mate across is the point. You could say so...if you're assuming that not wanting to date up isn't on the table....but I think you'll find based on the experiences of many women...it is in fact on the table. Men don't like to feel inferior in their relationships...and this isn't necessarily a high recommendation of them as you may think. Often, it means they seek out inferior partners in order to protect thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:55 AM
3

Having been somewhat intimately familiar with the dating habits of lesbians through my best friend, and this is a cliche of the lesbian community: they move very quickly. I don't think anyone should move so quickly if the goal is a long lasting committed partnership. You just can't see someone in enough situations or have been in enough spots to properly judge that they're a good match for you. They're often young (which impacts divorce rates) and I think uncertain of their full identity (I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:51 AM
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Most men date across, some date down in order to get someone of higher physical attractiveness or get someone at all. There's multiple hierarchies and statuses. Generally the one examined is financial/social. But beauty is part of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:51 AM
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I would say the majority of it is irrelevant. Maybe missing some sweet memories, but hardly a deterministic factor. Probably good if anything because kids are awful and early sexuality is not predictive of good things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:44 AM
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Men date across and down status hierarchy? The most likely pairing is across. And yeah, most women don't mind that because they don't mind going up based on what they at least perceive to be their own virtue which has gone unrecognized. Status hierarchies are more complicated than just social status. And yes, men do care about social status. Elsewise you wouldn't see the bemoaning of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:37 PM
1

>Implying there are better guys. XD If you're gonna get wet, might as well go swimming. No, but seriously, a good man is hard to find and often, you have to get down in the mud and help him dig his way out. And if you know that, which is what so many of us ladies learn somewhere in our mid twenties, he may as well be a cutie. It is my esteemed opinion, that reformed rakes make the best husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:44 PM
3

Lesbians aren't women, they're Lesbians. Which is to say, the dynamics of a lesbian relationship are not the same as a straight one...and thus their reasons for failure would be different. Most lesbian relationships move too quickly and thus burn out with things already having gone further. Yes, it turns out the more slow moving nature of men has a benefit in that regard. To turn our attention to your example of chores. This is actually quite easy. Let's pretend that's all being neurotic and unr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:41 PM
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If you end up single and older it's statistically likely that you are gay, autistic, or a threat. Don't hate the player. Ok, but no, seriously, there are limitations in a polite society. That's why it's called a polite society. If you fail to obey the laws of a polite society, you are shunned, that's kind of what makes it a polite society. It's not designed so you fail is the thing. Then it would be monstrous, but it's not designed that way. It's designed in such a way as to mold you towards wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:27 PM
2

I don't get why men approach women more than intellectually. Like, you know most cold call centers and sales people have to be paid to deal with such a grueling and thankless and awful job likely to include being brushed off (best case) or abused (worst). Like money. Often lots of money and the promise of a commission. And some men see this and think, "that's the best dating method available". WHAT? Literally join an adult hobby sport thing and play the long con. You won't get rich quick, but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:23 PM

Note, I've had sex with one man and it took some time to get amazing. The first few times were not a high recommendation. But, I can say that the reason a lot of it didn't get further with other guys....even kissing them kind of sucked. And now, even as a married woman, I think about sex with other men and it just doesn't seem super exciting because the promise of any pleasure it not guaranteed. There'd be no reason to have casual sex because if I wanted to feel good taking myself for sushi woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:19 PM
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Dude, this is really simple and either you have the EQ and empathy to understand it or you don't. And it's ok not to. It's ok to center your own experiences and have trouble centering others. Common even: -Most men aren't afraid their dates will murder, torture, stalk, rape, or peel their skin off and wear it while masturbating. Now, you can say this is an unreasonable fear, but all the stats show the greatest threat to a woman is a person she knows and is dating, which will literally be the job…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:04 PM
1

I don't particularly agree. I think in all cases women are behaving with agency, it's just like, I dunno if you play 40k you're familiar with the concept of a leadership save, which is to say life is often a roll of the dice and different things contribute to whether you continue to advance towards shiny things or fall back because of higher brain power. I don't want to remove agency from women and say ovulation means you can't control yourself anymore than a man's 24 hour cycle means he cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:38 PM
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I'm waiting for the day hypergamy proponents remember it means marrying across and up. Emphasis on across. It's also therefore based on where the woman is in the hierarchy itself All it means is women aren't interested in men they deem to be of inferior status. What this would ultimately then lead to is not all women going for the same top dudes, but simply all women avoiding the same lowly dudes unless they themselves were of similarly lowly status. Across and Up. Not just up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:53 PM
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I'm sure this is true of some very short-sighted and foolish women. But for most this is hilariously off. I worked on a mom & baby floor for multiple years seeing up close childbirth, the effects on the mother, and the so called providing of the average man. Let's just say, McDonald's would be easier and lead to a higher quality of life. Take by way of example the most recent babies born in my social circle. TWINS. It was an incredibly difficult pregnancy for her filled with worries about hersel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:38 AM
1

That is her playing. You just didn't like the moves and the speed with which the game ended. Sure, some do, typically when that man has lied and concealed his true self too well or proves he cannot be relied upon. And this is typically after a woman has been absorbing and supporting his behavior for ages. Men are often unaware how tedious, frightening, and difficult they're being to their women and how much their women are being a rock for them. They only count how she answered his explosion. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:12 AM
4

We're all hormonally motivated. Men are just on a 24 hour cycle so they appear more consistent. Your hormones tell you what to do too. I see it, it just isn't as interesting or motivating 27 days a month. Think of it like werewolves. Sometimes you can resist the change easily and sometimes the call of the wild is much more difficult to turn down. Men have certain hours in the day where they'd fuck a watermelon and they have other hours where they can resist a watermelon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:06 AM

I've been friends with a lot of crazy women, it's not that tough if you just kind of absorb it, redirect it, and often accept it. The problem typically arises from trying to change it. No, you can hug her and ask what's really going on and why is she upset. Ding ding, they aren't going to change. Tigers are mighty and fearsome carnivors. You don't feed them salad. You date women like that you sort of need to realize they aren't broken persay, that's what you wanted. And if it's not, then leave. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:03 AM
2

I think most men want a place and a value which makes them feel seen and appreciated. Yes, many are convinced that will include sex. But, I think this is where older men have let them down because they aren't showing them you fix the neighbor's fence because you can and carry the groceries because you can, and cut the grass because her husband is dead and you can. And I think to get movement you have to make space and give time for that space to be filled with solid behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:03 AM
1

I don't know what men do casual sex. Weird and gross. I'm telling you what I know from my own libido and other women talking. Told you several times never had it. Are you a npc with the same dialogue tree?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:59 AM
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The first person interested makes a move. Usually that's men granted. But, women therefore are required to judge and respond first. This isn't some additive by either. Playing chess requires a first move, doesn't mean very much. Women are also emotional rocks for men elsewise I do not think they'd be so miffed not to have one or when theirs is away. Men rarely lead these days. It's a partnership of equals so, again, I'm just not buying this is unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:57 AM

Sure...or they find someone who provides the kind of chaos they want or will communicate so much they can't create the chaos that makes them miserable. I think this weird incentive to improve talk just sounds so strange and unloving. This is a relationship between equals. Not parent disciplining child. If you pick a crazy woman, prepare to be patient and provide order. After all, you probably on some level want that wild energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:53 AM
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I'm married, sugar. I play with one exclusively. And I've never done hook up culture. I'm speaking purely about a day to day noticing of men. 27 days a month, I really don't notice men. 3 days a month, suddenly most of the men I look at seem slightly more appealing than before and if I was a different person, I could see the things I mentioned drawing me to do something very stupid. So yes, I must insist, this isn't about competence for men. Going up to a horny drunk girl and getting her home is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:00 PM
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I meant hook ups and casual sex. And it really isn't. It's about our cycle, proximity, alcohol, a feeling of judgement not being there, a feeling of safety, and a certain set of values. Ovulation can make a prince charming out of the majority of men unfortunately. . Men want it to be about attractiveness and competence, but that's the other 27 days in a month. Ovulation (3ish days) is about my pussy cat says meow about most dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:12 PM
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I do think you've highlighted a very real issue in a lot of men's circles surrounding mutual consideration and community maintenance. What I will say, is that the deep male friendships I've had and have they show that mutual consideration a little differently than a woman would (threats of violence on my behalf, telling someone to shut their mouth about me, fixing or lifting things I never could, making sure I got somewhere safe, and being willing to tell someone to leave me alone in a way they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:09 PM
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I've only ever dated dudes from my friend's circles that I knew for awhile. Now, maybe this is coming from a place of abundance (I'm confident in my ability to build a social circle should things go tits up). But, yeah, friendship circles fall apart all the time for all sorts of reasons. May as well shoot your shot at someone you've known for a while and can read actually likes you and you like back. It's also sinfully easy if you're not jerks to each other to go on a date, realize this ain't it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:57 PM
1

I think in my mind, the problem is typically men choose the stupidest of things to call societal ills. Like, I used to believe in the old style red pill which focused on: Homelessness (Which significantly influences more men, is harder to correct given the problems with fractured socialization, drug abuse, lack of family, and violence). 2.. Suicide (Again, way more men, many of them elderly, and they succeed. This feels like a mental illness crisis that truly deserves addressing). Drug abuse (I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:54 PM
2

No, it's much worse than that. Those men do actually like them...they just don't care about them in comparison to themselves and their own ego. They like, they do not love so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:44 PM
1

I'm sure it does. It's also far less magical and less likely to ever push anyone outside of their comfort zone to find something new or enjoyable. Again, if that works for y'all, I get it. I don't think every time has to be some magical experience, but if you've never had any magical experiences, I'd think your life a bit flat in the name of simplicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:39 PM
25

Ovulation is real and it hits with different levels of intensity month to month. I love it when men are like: you aren't always consistent every single day. Yeah, buddy, it's in the kitting. We're on a monthly cycle. I also don't need as much sleep near ovulation, I'm way more creative, and I eat more. It's not illogical, it's being a woman. My higher brain rules it and allows for a consistency of vision over my desires, but yes, I feel both of these pulls depending on where I'm at in the cycle.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:42 PM
3

More often they result in genuine joy at being seen so well and understood....😆 Now, don't get me wrong, I'll tell my husband what I want when he asks, but, it's mostly to help him grow in this department. And he's getting better with time because he wasn't initially good at it. On the other end, this is the first year of 7 that I've asked him what I can get him. Mostly because my own ideas for him are way too expensive and we're trying not to spend as much this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:35 PM
4

This could absolutely be true, but it could also be the other way or a little of column a & b. In my experience, it's pretty rare we have one total saint. And ultimately, if you're in a relationship, your goal is to communicate and enjoy each other. Not torment each other and then pretend you're the reasonable one and they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:33 PM
0

Ok, since we're using fuckin nerd terminology. I want to suggest magic the gathering: I think autistic men date in vintage mode. There's like only 4-8 decks, several big things are banned, whoever goes first has a real advantage to win, and almost nobody wants to play with them because their format is outrageously expensive, infuriating and everyone who is willing to play is 45+ and not a woman. Normie men date in type 2 (or whatever they're calling it these days). The meta shifts every few year…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:55 AM
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It places pressure. Often, especially in early dating, you don't want to be an inconvenience or seem like you're pressuring the other person for something. And you are being honest, that's a good thing. The problem here is that you honestly feel like you don't care. That hurts, right? Imagine if you said to a woman "do you want sex with me' and she said, "eh, honestly, I'll be fine either way". Like, she's being honest which is good, but also, you'd be pretty valid to be hurt that the idea of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:36 AM
5

I know about both and teach students how to make inferences based on context. It's not meaningless, it's a useful skill which extrapolates nicely into life. Sure, the author is dead and we can all sit around like David Lynch saying your personal relationship with the text is the most valid and beautiful thing there is....but it's also entirely possible to be able to make inferences, make connections, and research historical contexts to be able to understand a certain version of a story. Similarl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:28 AM
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Some women do absolutely thrive in chaos....which is fine, they should find chaotic men or men that enjoy giving them chaos anyway. With that said, I think you're too easily playing the man's side of this as not being a blunder because it isn't pre-meditated...but there's another word for that and it's thoughtless. And yes, being thoughtless within many scenarios is a sign of being unloving or not caring (which we will get to a bit later). In many cases, no flowers does mean you didn't care to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:16 AM
2

I'm sorry, but relatively speaking compared to previous or following generations and compared to their female counterparts of a similar age, yes, many of these men are relatively useless. That isn't to say they cannot be lovely, pleasant, or have some other values. It is to say that on the whole, they are behaving and making choices that lead them to be undue burdens on everyone else around them. And correctly, the everyone else around them is upset by this behavior, especially since it is often…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:39 AM
2

I would suspect a home environment regardless of pre existing barriers to development, although, I think the sort of binary thinking often found in nice guyism certainly matches some mental disabilities. It seems sensible that at vulnerable developmental moments seeing the wrong model or getting the wrong message would lead to damage. The clear next most pressing factor given most nice guys are adults, is how do you correct or help them. In my experience, it's difficult, but not impossible to op…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:35 AM
5

You can't regulate sex work as you wish because most women want to do it. In the supposedly regulated areas, you just have women imported from elsewhere to there and then again, threatened to comply. If regulation worked, I'd still socially stigmatize men using women for their bodies, but I would only think them icky, not monsters. *** Men exploit themselves. If you can turn it off and not do it, you aren't exploited, you're weak and undisciplined, which I have some mild sympathy for when it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:26 PM

I should be clear that by equally, I mean both couples work 40+ hours a week and are contributing their pay check. I am aware it is rare for earnings to be fully equal and thus contributions to be equal. The idea mostly men do the financial lifting is simply not accurate to the current state of affairs. They do make more, that I grant. We are aware of an earnings gap based on selecting different fields and hours worked. 0.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:30 PM
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No. Exactly the opposite. It just increases demand without adding any sort of protections for the supply. I'm going to take a leap and say MOST women would not do sex work unless they were vulnerable and exploited. Bonnie Blue is a rare woman indeed. They pretty much have to be. And by creating more Johns and making being a John societally accepted, you're just increasing the abuses of women for the benefit of men. It wouldn't mitigate it for anyone. I do not buy this new narrative of men who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:27 PM
2

So, not apologizing for the trash behavior of women, but the reason it isn't called out is that it isn't very mainstream. Calling men useless absolutely is and I don't think that's appropriate, but I do think we have a crisis with men of a particular generation (note, basically my father's) being useless. And I don't think it's good to laugh about that of course, but, it's tough because I think women from my mother's generation were keying in on well, a thing that was happening and to them. We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:43 PM
6

It's called values. I think men who use sex workers are morally bankrupt and see sex in a way that makes them reprehensible people. Women who do sex work may also be morally bankrupt and reprehensible, but they're way more likely to be vulnerable and exploited sex slaves and/ or drug addicts and/or trying to survive. In other words, I withhold judgement until knowing more. You'll never destigmatize seeing a sex worker for people like me. I would rather you die alone and unfucked and untouched th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:34 PM
8

One cannot be called upon to prove a negative. You have to prove cheat codes exist. Otherwise, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:27 PM
3

I think I basically agree with you on the diagnosis, but, I think you're ignoring the complexity of how someone ends up a "nice guy". Why aren't they mentally transitioning to these more morally and emotionally complex mental spaces? Why are they in this arrested development? And how, presuming we sort of care to see everyone thrive to a certain degree, can we help them transition into this complexity without losing their minds? Those are more interesting than diagnosing this for the millionth t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:16 PM
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I'm sorry you're in an abusive relationship? There's places to call for that and steps to follow if you don't feel safe in your relationship. It's tough to leave, but it needs to be done. It's OK to get that help and very masculine to stand up for yourself by leaving. Hitting is never ok. Feeling like you have to walk on eggs to avoid an explosive temper or silent treatment isn't ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:25 PM
1

Shaving to fit your face is pretty easy and makes so many men so much hotter. Same for a good haircut. A fitted shirt in the right color, stop it. I'm drooling. Imagine plucking their eyebrows to fit right too. And what if he had a good scent. Something signature. God, I love my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:22 PM
2

Have or had? Cuz all the guys I've dated tried sex toys. They just didn't like them and decided they liked their hand much better. I've never used a sex toy btw. So apparently I should be judging all y'all. I think women have them because they're much easier than our hands because the angle is a little weird for some stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:18 PM
1

Again, this is so made up. Most couples are contributing equally financially. In this economy especially. Many men do care what her finances and job are. You don't. Other men don't. But for many many men it is a part of attraction and a significant one. I haven't even touched on the fact that job is a likely indication of personality and a big shaper of the personality you'll deal with and will even significantly contribute to looks and style. And again, men saying it doesn't matter to them are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:16 PM
2

I'm a millennial. I know many millennial women doing charity work. And men too for the record. And while I'm less connected to the youth dating, I've seen both genders taking on crazy and trying to calm it down and fix it. Male dating strategy also exists and is pretty awful, arguably more so in little ways to do with our topic as it often seeks hurt women to exploit further. I dunno, people don't like to hear it's possible something is a type of person experience rather than a gendered one. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:06 PM
2

Um, I didn't ignore it. I said this is a human experience he's pitching as a masculine one. My efforts too have been ignored. And he didn't rest his case, he sneered and continued to argue it was an exclusively male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:01 PM
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I've tried to think how to explain this so I'm going with this: You've been dating a girl for six months and you overhear her describing why she chose you, "he's nice to look at and he's pleasant enough. You know, makes me laugh, kind to waiters, and the things he says well, he seems like a really good guy". And whomever she's talking to goes, "wonderful, and what does he do?" And your girl answers in a bored tone, "oh, I don't really care. It's meaningless. It isn't why I'm with him anyway. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:01 AM
0

Every male teacher I know besides the 22 year old is married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:44 AM
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