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Most women have dated at least one guy who spent so much time playing video games that it harmed the romantic relationship, and potentially their ability to take care of themselves (sleep), perform well at work, or maintain friendships. So most women will try to avoid repeating the scenario, even if it means rejecting men who play games in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:10 PM
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But if the argument is that society is vapid, so marriages are vapid, what is the point of the last paragraph? Suddenly everything about the way we live our lives is vapid, except for Stephanie’s micro wedding?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:43 PM
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I’m assuming you mean Keynesian. His name was John Maynard Keynes. a spend first economy which in turn is commercializing multiple institutions, including marriage. Great, TELL US HOW. When my grandmother married John the coal miner because he built a house on his parents property, HOW was that marriage more legitimate. When I married Bill because he was a midlevel manager at a tech firm and could qualify for a mortgage in a HCOL city, HOW is it marriage less legitimate. You are the one who cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:53 PM
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Now you’re making even less sense! I’m married to a coal miner, so my marriage is legitimate. I’m married to a web designer, so my marriage is less legitimate…? Literally what the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:34 PM
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Why is a house someone bought “of less true legitimate value” than a house someone built or inherited?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:27 PM
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Did you read your post? Furthermore, many past societies weren’t primarily driven by monetary value, but rather, what you can tangibly bring to the table. People used to bring tangible THINGS, back when marriage was legitimate. less about financial provision As opposed to now, when it’s about the financial provision of THINGS. Which is less legitimate, for reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:20 PM
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This makes no sense to me. “I need to find a husband who can build me a house” and “I need to find a wife who can take care of my babies” is legitimate…? “I need to find a husband who can buy a house” and “I need to find a wife who can pay for daycare” is illegitimate…? Why in the world is the former better or “more legitimate” than the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:11 PM
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You’re saying that all men would PREFER to be stay-at-home dads staying home with the kids all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:20 PM
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Which one is he going to sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:15 PM
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Yes, that makes a lot more sense than people opposing it because you’re completely unable to explain how this would benefit anyone… 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:28 AM
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What does that have to do with what we’re talking about? Marriage becomes an exclusive “attractive” thing… most people cannot attain. Most people are still going to move in together, have kids together, entangle their finances. They’re going to be even more likely to breakup than if they were married. How are the kids better off? How is society better off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:12 AM
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Why is a breakup of an unmarried family less atomizing than the breakup of a married family? 40% of kids in the US are born to unmarried parents already. How are they better off than kids born to married parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:03 AM
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Keeping people unmarried is a nudge against atomization…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:54 AM
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To what end? Why are the rest of us better off if a couple can’t marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 AM
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Yes, there’s the systemic view and the individual view. Sure, most wealth inequality is due to inter-general resources. So, on the whole, broke people are broke because they didn’t come from money. But if I didn’t come from money, I can still work to become not-broke. Many people can achieve their goals with a bad personality, because of luck (in money, looks, etc). But also, many unlucky people can achieve their goals because of a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:21 PM
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Bob is financially stable because he inherited a trust fund. Joe is financially stable because he worked hard and managed his resources carefully. Henry is is lazy and reckless. Is Henry broke because he didn’t have rich parents, or because of his personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:05 PM
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But your math says that 94% of American men are NOT Asian. Why are you attributing an Asian woman dating a non-Asian to self-hatred instead of just basic chance? If she meets 100 random guys, almost none of them are Asian!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:15 AM
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I’m the one with the pension…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:46 PM
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I wear a seatbelt instead of avoiding being in cars. I have insurance instead of not buying a house that may burn down. Why would marriage be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:18 PM
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I think you’re conflating different things. I own my own house, live alone, make my own money, split 50/50 in relationships. AND I’m more at risk of many things than the average man in the same situation. a man can live/ sleep on street, hangout anywhere, work anywhere, do any job (even if it means working his ass off hard), sleep around etc... Homeless advocates have estimates for how long the average woman can sleep on the streets before an attempted rape. They are short. Women who “sleep arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:14 PM
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Meaning what? If you don’t want any government benefits, you can just have a ceremony.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:25 PM
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For a government pension? For social security benefits of the higher earner? NO. These are the reasons gay people campaigned for marriage. These benefits are life and death for many people, and can ONLY be obtained by getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:20 PM
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The former is a benefit of marriage, the latter is the benefit of the “1200 documents to feel comfortable marrying” that OP thinks conflicts with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:17 PM
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Marriage isn’t the barrier, your decision to prioritize your family is the barrier. Not a judgement- I think that’s a completely reasonable approach. But there are plenty of people who have similar family issues and make a different choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:08 PM
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I can want my spouse to get my government pension if I die, and want to keep that government pension if we divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:06 PM
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I’m wonder if you don’t know what virgin means? This article doesn’t reference virginity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:30 PM
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So it’s a bullshit claim from your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:26 PM
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Your source explicitly disproves your claim… “Around 30 percent of young men reported in 2019 that they had no sex in the past year, compared to about 20 percent of young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:12 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:52 PM
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In 2018, over 55% of people between 25 and 34 in the US lived with a romantic partner. Second chart: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2018/11/cohabitation-is-up-marriage-is-down-for-young-adults.html That is your guy’s age group. The average guy his age didn’t get “no interest.” The average guy is not a virgin. The average guy is not someone without relationship experience. The average guy his age has lived with a romantic partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:33 PM
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Let’s say OP’s guy is 35, and would have been 29 at the time of your source. At that time, only 4.4% of men his age had never had sex. I think we can assume that some of those people lost their virginity in the next 6 years, but this guy was not one of them. And the post isn’t just about not having sex, but any romantic relationship. I’m sure some of those <4.4% had sexless relationships, but again, not our guy. He’s an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:18 PM
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I don’t believe anywhere is like that, so if he told me that, I’d suspect he was lying. If I believed it, I’d wonder why he didn’t leave until 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:34 PM
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middle aged man, say mid 30s or early 40s who hasn't had any relationships and is a virgin This is not normal or average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:12 PM
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just a normal average man who just never had any relationship or sex. Obviously not, just by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:52 PM
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But you’re using more of the same behavior to back up your theory about the behavior. The same questionable motives that can drive people to have a couples profile photo also drive people to make public posts about how “happy” they are with their partner. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-it-means-when-couples-constantly-post-about-each-other-on-instagram_n_5a8b06cfe4b00bc49f4732f6/amp https://relevantmagazine.com/life5/relationships/happy-couple-post-their-partner-less-on-social-media/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:32 AM
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Definitely not. People often put photos like that up after one person has been disloyal, pretending to be single or fully cheating. It’s both a way to ward off potential threats/hamper someone’s ability to lie about being in a relationship and a way to try to convince everyone/yourself you’re in a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:20 AM
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If you made a decision about what 4 billion people are like based on the comments on a single post in a niche Reddit sub… Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:52 PM
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Aren’t you proving the point that people can tell the difference between different kinds of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:33 PM
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when you completely destigmatize promiscuity, you’re basically saying that all relationships are equal, whether it’s a one-night stand or a long-term commitment. Why would this be true? Like, there’s no stigma against casual friends and acquaintances, but no one thinks they are equal to close friends or a best friend. Why wouldn’t people be able to distinguish between types of romantic relationships, if they’re able to do it for friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:18 AM
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You’re proving the point though… You have active animosity towards the women who would date you. That should be a red flag!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:47 AM
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Eh, I know what my female friends have said about themselves. Their suffering is not in my imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:16 AM
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The women I know who put the most effort into their appearance are more insecure than the women who do not. This has been consistent throughout my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:39 AM
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This is definitely contrary to what I’ve observed and experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:03 AM
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But they are equally as overweight/obese. Men aren’t more likely to be in shape. Women are more likely to take weight-loss drugs like Ozempic. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:14 PM
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I’m literally asking you what to look at. What can I look at to see evidence that men pursue self-improvement more than women? The only specific reference you made is physical. But men are overweight/obese at the same rates as women (or worse). They join gyms at the same rates as women. All I see is evidence that doesn’t support your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:58 PM
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If it takes that much time and effort to find any evidence of your theory being true…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:50 PM
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What metrics validate this theory? Are men more likely to be members of gyms? (Spoiler: no) Are men more likely to go to college? (Spoiler: no)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:22 PM
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What in the world are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:19 PM
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You need to be a lot more specific about what content you are referring to. such advices and other life lessons are primarily aimed for guys And implied that women's job is to only produce and raise children According to… you? Is this only meaningful and helpful for men or what are you women understand from this life and can you relate to such things? Again, this distinction seems to exist in your imagination? There’s a massive amount of self-improvement content explicitly created for women and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:00 PM
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Isn’t the the insertion failure rate like 18%?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:20 AM
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as much attention from women as I did in 1 year of bartending But you aren’t saying that that “attention” translates into anything (sex, relationships). Flirting with the bartender =/= responding to a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:26 AM
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No one is being “sexist” by not doing anything to anyone. many generations of men who have not chosen to do that whether it be by personality or simple choice. Men who don’t approach women for dating are not being sexist. They are just making a choice. It’s no different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:37 PM
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Are you serious?? “you DIE. Your wife is not gonna remain faithful for the rest of your LIFE.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:38 PM
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Why is there so much violence against men by men? that doesn’t sound particularly friendly or kind. I can easily strike up a conversation in public with another man and they will usually react with kindness and helpfulness. They will never accuse me of being creepy or trying to take advantage in some way. Lol, men used to use the “gay panic defense” in murder trials to justify killing anyone who was potentially hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:35 PM
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But suppose you are married and you fight for your family and you die. Your wife is not gonna remain faithful for rest of your life. Uhhhhh….
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:14 PM
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Which one belongs on a sub with debate in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:19 AM
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Usual scenario a guy will make a complaint saying how dating is hard If someone is making a public post with this kind of complaint, they should be specific about what kind of response they are looking for, and include enough relevant info to get it. If you’re just venting and don’t want feedback, say that. More importantly, consider whether you’re posting in the appropriate place for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:03 PM
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The majority of entertainment is about drama. Sports, super hero movies, video games…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:22 PM
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Whoa, why are you misrepresenting your source?? “are clinically depressed” The source is about ever having been diagnosed with any type of depression over a lifetime. Respondents were asked, “Has a doctor or nurse ever told you that you have depression?” and “Do you currently have or are you currently being treated for depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:18 PM
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You two are experiencing a historical anomaly. Never in the history of time have there been real numbers of children growing up so sheltered, supervised, and socially isolated. I’m not saying there weren’t kids like you before… but there were two in my high school, and they and their parents were considered incredibly weird. The kids tended to be academically competitive, and socially stunted. Now there are more kids like you than ever… but still plenty of kids who have more independence and uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:04 PM
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They have personal stuff going on or thought we weren’t a match. They’re basically a stranger. It doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:22 PM
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My goal is to never date anyone who thinks these are good analogies for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:08 PM
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I DON’T KNOW. What is your problem??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:44 PM
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How would I know? There are 8 billion people on the planet, who can form a practically infinite number and types of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:36 PM
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In my experience, people who care about the relationship are already doing close to their best, so they don’t have the capacity to promise much they aren’t already doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:09 PM
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OP did not observe thousands of women apply for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:48 AM
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People who care about the relationship put effort into maintaining its quality. People who just care about ego and status are only concerned about the threat of it ending/getting dumped. People who want a relationship with the least amount of effort know that the easiest strategy is neglect the relationship, then make a lot of promises when someone threatens to break up with you (without actually changing your behavior).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:11 AM
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In my experience, it’s the least committed guys who throw the biggest hissy fits when you dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 AM
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I wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:58 AM
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You stopped supporting women because they get mental health treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:48 AM
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He literally admitted it?? She was 14 and he told his friend that Priscilla was “young enough that I can train her any way I want.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:21 AM
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The same reason that men have made a million posts about their Ryan Reynolds “man crush” and how they’re straight “except for Ryan Reynolds.” People find rich and/or talented and/or hot and/or charismatic celebrities compelling. Those celebrities could date from pretty much any demographic they choose, but they tend to choose young women. That’s why you see them date young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:15 AM
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Drake too 😬😬😬
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:10 AM
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Situationships allow people to engage in relationships without full investment meaning that each party won't get their feelings hurt Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:26 AM
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They want to be like a despicable human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:51 PM
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Why do his male fans like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:39 PM
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You think the men in the audience would what? Turn down an invitation to go backstage and meet the artists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:57 PM
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OP needs them more, because apparently it’s really triggering to find other people at a stadium concert…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:44 PM
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What observations?? Other people attended the same concert OP attended? A dozen people went backstage? How in the works could those be observations be surprising at a concert?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:40 PM
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So he’s “shocked” by seeing a dozen people from the VIP section invited backstage? That’s why we should go easy on him when he insults women for doing the same thing he did?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:00 PM
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He literally suggests you look up his post and comment history, where he compares this concert to other concerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:51 PM
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What cultural environment?? A concert? You think he’s never been to a concert?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:46 PM
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What culture shock? He bought a ticket to the concert. He’s shocked by the artist he paid to see? He’s shocked that other people were also in the stadium? Or he’s shocked that a dozen people went backstage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:45 PM
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He made a post criticizing women for attending a concert that he attended. He’s made all these assumptions about women when the vast majority of them did exactly what he did. Maybe OP should be the one to lay off other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:40 PM
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I guess receiving oral sex does not a relationship make 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:12 PM
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Are you asking if the relationship itself was an accomplishment we feel proud of?? “I bagged a great guy?” Or if the relationship was with someone who made us feel good about ourselves? Through admiration, compliments, etc? Or if there were particular accomplishments in the relationship?? Giving someone a good birthday present or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:01 PM
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You went to the concert. You assumed everyone at the concert wants to fuck Future. There’s only one way this assumption even begins to make sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:46 PM
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So, my best advice to you is, listen to them Why would you advise women to listen to the small proportion of men who say things like this, instead of paying attention to the ACTIONS of the men were actually interested in spending time with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:47 PM
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Again, people believe the earth is flat. People believe stupid shit. People do stupid shit. But just as there’s a ton of “help” to support people knowing that the world is round, there’s “no means no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:44 AM
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9 and 10 show how someone relying only on their limited perceptions could develop dumb beliefs. That’s WHY we have lessons like “no means no.” That’s the actual point of teaching it. The same way I could “borrow” things without asking from a few people and have them say “that’s fine.” That could lead me to think I never need to ask permission to use anyone else’s property. Acting on that dumb belief could get me jailed or killed. That’s why we teach people to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:32 AM
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I literally just said I agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:14 AM
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9- Of course. People believe dumb shit all the time. If people believe the earth is flat, they can belief bad behavior is appropriate. 10- Of course. That’s why we teach about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:14 PM
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14- you’ve written this incorrectly, reversing what “yes” and “no” mean. Does simply telling this man that "no means no" address the underlying issues unless additional education and understanding are provided? Yes, it does. The “underlying issues” are the reason for “no means no.” It’s the same as any other teaching. “Ask before you use something of someone else’s.” The rule exists BECAUSE of the nuance of real life. A ton of people in my life would be fine with me borrowing their things. If I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:00 PM
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I don’t want to spend the rest of my life with someone barking orders at me. It’s not the same thing as spending your life with someone who makes suggestions and requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:27 PM
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From when? What does “interested” mean? Is this data from actual behavior on the site, or a survey? What does “dating pool” refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:04 PM
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No source.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:58 PM
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To be clear, “giving up market power” means sleeping with and dating men we don’t want to sleep with and date, yes? I would always choose to be single before doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:41 PM
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Verbal consent is not always required, but a verbal “no” must be respected. Non-verbal signals do not override a “no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:18 PM
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You think being a cleaner is a cushy job?? You think being a teacher is a cushy job??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:22 AM
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You think nursing is a cushy office job? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:47 AM
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What does this have to do with either your ignorance or your lies? Women have started working in many previously malr-dominated fields, becoming the majority of some of those fields. Other fields remain male-dominated, the same way many fields are female-dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:53 PM
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There’s a reason you didn’t answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:07 PM
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Why would a woman need an excuse not to go into a field? Do men need an excuse for not being dental hygienists?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:42 PM
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Probably with all the male dental hygienists, preschool teachers, house cleaners, and administrative assistants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:26 PM
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We’re talking 4 years of undergrad and 9 times out of 10 post graduate school. More women do this than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:09 PM
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So why haven't women then started working in male labor fields? Is this a joke? Are you not aware of all the fields that used to be male-dominated and aren’t anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:04 PM
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Good luck with it. Like I said, I’d never use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:58 PM
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I think you’re really underestimating the problem. 10% of women on dating apps report receiving threats of physical violence. This isn’t Airbnb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:38 PM
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How can that be handled with verification? If 5 guys report me as a “foodie call” because I didn’t have sex with them, what would the app verify?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:04 PM
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I thought you were trolling, but you genuinely don’t understand the difference between descriptive and prescriptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:51 PM
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This is the nature of dating strangers. I’d never use a dating app that allowed men I rejected to rate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:22 PM
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And that’s not an answer to the question. You don’t need to pretend to respond to my question if you just want to rant about sonmething unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:11 PM
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That isn’t the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:31 PM
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Tyson. I don’t fuck on the first date, but I don’t think it’s objectionable for someone to want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:18 AM
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and probably lust for him It’s incredibly weird that you keep telling me what you imagine women think as proof of what other women would do. Your imagination is not “proof” of what “most women” would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:04 AM
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Well, the number of concert tickets he’s ever sold is about 1% of the amount you just claimed paid him for photos. Let’s just guess 1% of concert-goers buys backstage passes. So that’s 0.01% of what you claimed. You’re only a few hundred million off!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:55 AM
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You’ve completely destroyed your point? You claimed you could speculate about “most women” because of what you’ve “seen.” Then you proceeded to blatantly lie about what you’ve “seen,” only to replace it with a different speculation. would debase themselves to the nth degree for a single night with the man. You’re imagining something about a group of women and then claiming that proof of how most women behave. It’s embarrassing that you still think you have a point to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:47 AM
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And neither is related to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:04 AM
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hundreds of millions of women who pay upwards of thousands of dollars for pictures of him grabbing their asses You cannot believe this. The population of the US is over 300 million people. You think the equivalent of a US population has paid Chris Brown to touch their butt on camera? If he spent one minute on each woman, and worked 24 hours a day touching butts, it would take over 600 hundred years to do what you claim. This says something alright 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:59 AM
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What in the world could you “see” that proves most women would do this??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:38 AM
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I just asked you if “men are criminals.” You said no. Now they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:35 AM
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If 100,000 criminal men don’t make men criminals, the baby mamas of Elon and Cannon don’t make women “willing to share.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:10 AM
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The generalization is about women. hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:59 AM
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Would you say “men are criminals?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:57 AM
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It’s a slippery slope to take such isolated incidents and make generalizations about a gender. Over 100,000 men are in prison in the US. What conclusion should I draw about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:54 AM
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What do you WANT from a conversation with strangers about your dating difficulties?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:40 PM
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That’s a position one can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:16 PM
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What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:13 PM
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She did not consent to a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:52 PM
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Feel free to share a source that you find credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:01 PM
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So are they staying within their league or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:00 PM
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And you’ve posted no sources at all. Edit to add: you can also scroll down to “About NSFG” to find info about the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:57 PM
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Feel free to find any reputable study that agrees with you. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:51 PM
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Most women go for casual sex, atleast a couple of times. Yes, and doing something a few times in your life is doing it rarely. The vast majority of women have fewer than 10 sex partners. Only a portion of those are casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:46 PM
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Men stay within their league As if men are turning down sex with women above or below their league 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:21 PM
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That doesn’t sound like the most attractive person in the world. It's important that my partner is the most attractive person to me in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:46 PM
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In another thread, you said: Bro if I had the options they have, I would choose the absolute cream of the crop as well. Who are you choosing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:34 PM
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I’m sure this is the case. I’m a little on the older side, and have to admit that I’m a little jealous of women growing up now. Being a young woman in the 90s/00s was a really terrible experience. You couldn’t live a full life without enduring constant interruptions, and most of it was negging/harrassment. But it seems to me this isn’t just about hitting on people, but a decline in all in-person socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:30 PM
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Mating against your choice is “healthy.” That’s a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:24 PM
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Let’s assume men’s are accurate then. CDC says the average man has about 6 lifetime sex partners (median body count for men 24-49). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm Assuming most people are in a few relationships throughout their life, we’re talking up to 3 casual sex partners ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:13 PM
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The majorly of men I’ve gone on dates with I did not consider having sex with, casual or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:31 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:22 PM
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Your source: The median body count for women up to 49 years old is: 4.3 75% of women up to 49 years old have body counts of less than 10. This confirms what I said: Most women rarely go for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:16 PM
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I think your idea of a date may be different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:06 PM
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Yes, they do it rarely, meaning “not often” or “seldom.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:57 PM
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People rarely buy houses =/= homeownership is rare. My comment: Most women rarely go for casual sex Your source confirms it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
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Cite your sources. I’ve never seen a reputable study with averages in the double digits over a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:49 PM
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Wanting sex =/= going for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:43 PM
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more than half of young people aged 18-25 have had at least one casual sex encounter in their life. Are you saying this isn’t rare? The linked study says the lifetime casual sex partner count for young women is TWO. Less than one ever two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:25 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you. This seems like a normal part of life. I’m sure I’m not the most attractive woman my partner has been with. It has not occurred to me to care. And it’s not just about sex. Imagine you’re in a new situation and deciding which stranger to make conversation with. You’re going to pick someone who looks interesting, based on their clothes or general appearance. But years later, you’re really not going to care that your wife doesn’t wear the most attention-attracting out…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:17 PM
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The average woman does not hook up a lot. I’ve never seen a reputable study of lifetime sexual partners that hits double digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:54 PM
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Rarely would mean most women have 0, and a few have a few, and maybe the outliers would have more. Nope. Rarely means “not often” or “seldom.” I’ve been to IKEA several times. I go to IKEA about once every other year. I rarely go to IKEA. All of these statements are true. “ Several is average if not above average, that’s a lot if ur trying to say women rarely go for it at all.” There are many things the average person does rarely. Those are not in conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:46 PM
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I’m not following?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:39 PM
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Several casual interactions ever = rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:33 PM
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I’m not sure what is confusing about this. Most women rarely go for casual sex, if ever. If a woman is seeking a primarily sexual interaction, she’s going to do it with someone she’s very attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:26 PM
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Why do you pretend it’s a “hard dealbreaker,” if you’re willing to compromise on it to avoid being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:46 AM
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But if you were disfigured in a fire and not considered attractive, would you prefer to be single or date a single mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:34 AM
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In any other case, you would prefer to be single than date a single mom. A lot of people have similar feelings about their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:31 AM
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But you claim that you would NEVER date a single mom. It’s a “hard dealbreaker.” It’s easy to imagine a lot of accidents that could decrease your attractiveness to make it difficult to find a partner. But you’re claiming that there’s no situation in which you’d lower your standards. Is it not true that you’d rather be single than with a single mom? Were you just bluffing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:13 AM
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only makes you less likely to find your partner That’s a feature, not a bug. People raise their standards because they realize they’d rather be single than date someone who doesn’t meet the higher standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:43 PM
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Yeah, if you’re saying “I think we should make sure this is the baby YOU gave birth to, by making sure it matches YOUR DNA,” no one will assume you think she’s cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:32 PM
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If you think the baby was switched at birth, you can test the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:00 PM
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There are no “swipe stats” from OK Cupid 15 years ago!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:21 PM
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Your original comment did not compare the selectiveness of women to men. You used two data points that are not equivalent to show that women have gotten more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:01 PM
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Obviously women are more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 AM
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It doesn’t matter what the majority of profiles are like if women are swiping such a small percentage. I’ve never swiped right on an empty profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:19 AM
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So, the idea is that women are “angry” that men want to use this woman for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:18 AM
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Swiping isn’t just about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:11 AM
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Has sexual skills - as evidence by the meme she created So men don’t like inexperienced low n-count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:10 AM
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In individual cases about very specific things, sure. But when it comes to men complaining about general trends How does this make sense?? Why should I care more about trends of experiences that individual experiences, if they are still not as bad as what’s happening to women? Men overwhelmingly complain about not having access to women. Women overwhelmingly complain about men doing bad things to them. Someone harming you is always worse than someone leaving you alone, at an individual level or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:42 AM
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Then I still have no idea what you’re trying to say here. I shouldn’t discount men’s complaints because I don’t discount women’s complaints, but apparently I’m still supposed to weigh men and women’s complaints based on my perception of which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:22 AM
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Just to be clear, let’s say I’m hanging out with a female friend and a male friend. Female friend complains that she’s being sexually harassed at work. Male friend complains that his coworker does not want to go out with him. You think I should give equal weight to these complaints, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:10 AM
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It's kind if arrogant to say that dating your own gender is "perfectly normal" when it quite literally goes without saying that the same is not true the other way around I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say here, or with the entire post honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:57 AM
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I lived through Donald Trumps 4am tweet rants. The only way women are more emotional than men in politics is if you pretend that most emotions are not emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:40 AM
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Can’t? We aren’t trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:18 AM
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I’ll interpret “ran by women” as “with women’s rights.” Yes, countries with women’s rights do have more women leaving marriages they entered too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:46 AM
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Almost all relationships at this age are doomed to fail. I see this scenario happening a lot especially with women 18-24 the relationship is unsustainable with that large of a looks mismatch, and is doomed to fail. For example, marriages starting when the woman is under 24 have some of the highest divorce rates. There’s zero reason to think her relationship with a 4/10 guy was “sustainable.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:35 AM
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Oh, I see where you mean, you’re asking “why do you expect the tank to be full of gas instead of water or something else?” My expectations would be around the person, not the requirements. Let’s say I had a diesel vehicle, and a random person told me they took my car to the gas station and filled it up, I would NOT expect they filled it with diesel even though the car requires diesel. Dating requirements are like having a diesel vehicle. You know what fuel it needs. You don’t necessarily think a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:59 PM
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But you had to invent the communication, which is the only thing that created the expectation. I always expect people to be and do what they SAY, because they said it, not because of my requirements. If someone says the tank is empty or full, I expect it to be so. If someone says the convertible top is up or down, I expect it to be so. That obviously has nothing to do with the requirements to operate the car. The expectations are not related to the requirements. > So if a woman has requirements,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:08 PM
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Therefore when someone says the tank is full Explain this part of the metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:29 PM
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You switch from asking about “requirements” to “expectations,” which muddies the waters. I don’t expect much from anyone I don’t know. But I’m not going to bother spending time dating unless certain standards are met. Think about any other preference: “I expect every restaurant to serve seafood” - unreasonable “I’d rather cook at home unless I’m going out for seafood” - reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:58 PM
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They are still with someone who is not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:19 PM
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If that’s the last unmarried candidate, women have never had the opportunity to vote for an unmarried president.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:19 PM
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We’re not discussing the veracity of the claim. We’re discussing whether the claim is made. You say it is not: Nobody denies that average dudes have sex. I’m saying I see that claim on this sub frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:50 PM
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Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? Men here frequently claim that average guys never have sex. Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:29 PM
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An average dude has 1-2 sexual partners in his whole life I’ve never seen a study with such a low number for the US. Nobody denies that average dudes have sex. I see that claim on this sub every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:14 PM
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hot being a -requirement- for attraction For whom? I don’t know what you’re referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:15 PM
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On a pure attraction basis, women would rather die alone than be with someone not hot. You might say, "obviously!" but that is not true Of course it’s not true. Men would rather be with a below average woman than die alone. Which has to relevance to the fact that people prefer to sleep with hot people. Women are willing to have transactional sex; trading sexual access for children, support, and security. The existence of sex workers prove that men are also willing to have transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:05 PM
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if the average man had sex with women be finds attractive it would distribute in a bell curve What data are you theoretically graphing here? What is the x axis and the y axis?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:50 PM
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So, women would rather die alone than be with someone not-hot… AND women will be with someone not-hot to have a family. Sure, that makes total sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:15 PM
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I don’t think the men who have the most sex are doing it for healthy reasons either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:05 PM
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women prefer dying alone to being with someone that isn’t hot. Whats your explanation for the majority of men having had sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:02 PM
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Where does this source address the outcomes of children in marriages “even if the parents hate each other.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 AM
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No, women who are relatively average still have incredible ease of access to sex compared to men That’s a completely different conversation. You compared men to men, and I compared women to women. In both cases, there’s an uneven distribution of sex and sex partners, with a small percentage having waaaaay more than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:22 AM
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What does this have to do with my question?? Why did you bring up presidents?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:14 AM
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And if I compared the amount of sex I had to the women who had the most sex, it would seem like nothing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:12 AM
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When was the last time a major party ran a presidential candidate who was not married?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:06 AM
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How many US presidents can you name who were single men? Even among democrats, the answer is pretty much zero! How in the world does this prove that “women”have any issue with singleness??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:26 AM
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No one thinks it’s a myth that hot people can have sex with more people! People think it’s a myth that it means that the majority of men don’t have sex, because every study says otherwise AND because it’s obviously false to anyone who has a normal social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:08 AM
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You want people to “debate” the position that people prefer having sex with hot people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:49 AM
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You haven’t seen any evidence that it’s false either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:44 AM
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If every “research” shows that, it should be easy to cite some sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:36 AM
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Why can’t half the population have any impact on society??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:10 AM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:08 PM
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Yes, and the “girlfriend experience” is a product offered by professionals, not something it’s fair to expect without reciprocation. It’s like expecting your buddy to clean your house every week for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:42 PM
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After getting over the anger phase There are some bizarre assumptions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:58 PM
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I’m a woman who has dated casually and seriously. The only time I’ve had issues with men who date casually is when they have no boundaries. They didn’t want to be serious, but they wanted to act serious. They’d get cranky if I didn’t spend “enough” free time with them or prioritize them over my friends (who would still be there in the future). They’d want a lot of emotional support. They’d want me to spend time with their friends and family. But these things are investments, and they’d already t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:50 PM
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I agree with you. I think capitalism is the foundation of “fashion,” not male attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:26 PM
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Single women own homes at higher rates than single men!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:40 PM
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Where are their fathers in this??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:08 PM
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Dating multiple people has only been around for about a decade. It used to be that when two people liked each other enough to go out on dates that meant they would be loyal This is laughably false. In the US, there was a weird blip in the 90s when exclusivity could often be assumed, but that’s it. There was no 'talk' it was just an unspoken rule. No, even 75 years ago there was a difference between dating and “going steady.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:32 AM
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I understand what you meant. What is the reason it oscillates?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:33 PM
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If male attraction is the foundation of fashion, why would it ocillate? Why wouldn’t it just be neutral, like the colors blue and green, with neither ever being out of style?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:05 PM
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What’s the answer to the question I asked you? Or are you just deflecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:57 PM
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Fashion trends change all the time though… Are high-waisted pants attractive to men? Or are low-waisted pants attractive to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:42 PM
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(I know you could reverse the genders here but the term "one that got away" is generally used by girls in context to men) I’ve only seen this in reverse. My female friends never talk about this, but I’ve heard a lot of guys say this or something that implies this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:26 AM
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Now you’re moving the goalpost again. We’ve already established that we are not talking about “expectations.” I don't care what people do of their own free will. So why doesn’t that apply to a man buying a woman dinner in their first date? Sometimes you’re up in arms because it’s “morally incorrect to justify benevelont sexism,” and other times you don’t care what other people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:22 PM
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Literally any dictionary definition of “equal” makes it clear that this is a stupid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:00 AM
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That’s not what you mean. He isn’t trying to “test” himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:33 AM
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Men are typically the ones inviting women to restaurants… Also, very weird that you seem to think every restaurant is “fine dining.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:01 AM
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It’s a joke bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:31 PM
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How did they convince the women to join?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:30 PM
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You keep asking these questions with ridiculous assumptions built in. that wouldn't apply to a man, child or other type of person? Why in the world would you think there are exclusive ways that women “respect” other women??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:55 AM
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Most people generally have an idea of what they want at their point in life But unless they are ONLY to no strings attached sex, they DO NOT know if they want it from the person they’re going on a first date with. I'm fairly certain the guy who was thinking about having short term flings isn't gonna end up in a relationship often. lol, this is how a lot of relationships start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:53 AM
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can't mention your intentions from the start I don’t KNOW my intentions when I just start dating someone. That’s what the dating is for. instead of just saying whats obviously going to happen ("lets go back to my place" as opposed to "lets have sex") I’m not sure I’m going to have sex with someone until we’re in private and start messing around! If I don’t like the make out session, I don’t have sex. You’re mischaracterizing getting to know someone as manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:27 AM
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anything that isn't being literally direct is technically a form of manipulation Dating is usually the PROCESS of finding out what kind of relationship you’d like to have with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:29 AM
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I think you’re looking at it the wrong way around. “Why do people who compulsively date a lot of questionable characters end up with kids?” The answer is pretty obvious. The same impulsive behavior leads to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:57 PM
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I haven’t seen this at all. Most women I know who had an adventurous past end up partnered. There are so many guys who don’t think or care about any of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:42 PM
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Yeah, “most of what he says” is probably normal human stuff. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:34 AM
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For online dating, Pew research says: 11% of women under 50 have received threats of physical harm. For men it’s 4%. 37% of women under 50 have been called offensive names. For men it’s 18%. Obviously some of those threats and insults are a reaction to being rejected. But it gives us an idea of who is experiencing more cruelty. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:32 PM
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Do you think it’s morally incorrect to offer your seat to a pregnant woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:48 PM
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Sorry, are you saying it’s morally incorrect to buy someone dinner? Or morally incorrect to let someone buy you dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:44 PM
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“Expect” isn’t part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:29 PM
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If you are a man going on a date with a woman, there are real world circumstances that make “benevolent sexism” rational. It is likely that: - your date is taking more of a risk than you are - your date had and has more other options - your date is younger than you (has less time to advance professionally) - your date makes less money than you, even if you’re the same age - your date puts more effort (and money) into her physical appearance Also, you’re probably not looking for a partner who bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:16 PM
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Whoa, ghost editing a comment after being responded to. That is really sad behavior. I would have been happy to discuss why I think married relationships are drastically different than unmarried relationships (and there’s plenty of data to back that up). But you are not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:48 PM
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It's fair to extrapolate marriage dynamics to LTRs, especially when you have millions participants and statistical points over decades. That makes no sense. I can’t use data about law school students to make assumptions about undergrad students just because I have a lot of data about law school students.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:41 PM
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but there are for married ones, so we should stick to those for the sake of accuracy. Don’t make a post about “partners” if you’re only open to discussing married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:22 PM
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Of course it is. The reason I can’t afford health insurance is because I cannot divorce the husband who has abandoned me. If I could divorce him, I could get subsidized insurance through work, because divorce is a qualifying event. Abandonment is not. If I could divorce him, only my income would be used to price healthcare plans on the marketplace, not his. You’ve created an entire group of people who could lose benefits without warning, and be shut out from affordable paths to get coverage. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:05 PM
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There are no legal grounds to sue anyone for taking money out of an account that has their name on it, married or not. Who chose this abuser out of all available people? I don’t know what that means? If you marry someone at 25, and they get into a car crash at 55 that gives them a personality-changing traumatic brain injury, that says nothing about who you picked. It is something that could happen to anyone. External factors change people’s personalities. It’s not about “picking.” I think people…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:26 PM
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Personally, I’ve just learned to avoid dating men who share OPs philosophy, so it doesn’t really matter how much they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:55 PM
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Me: I make decent money You: If both of you make crazy money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:39 PM
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So the stats for marriages contradict your logic. I don’t think so. There are reasons that some reasons relationships end before marriage, and other reasons that some relationships end after marriage. The calculations are really different, especially when kids are involved. It’s also not the case that every breadwinner thinks they should do less housework. The guy I’m currently dating makes more than me, but is not the type to ever think that means he has less responsibility at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:37 PM
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I personally believe that the partner who brings more $ to the table gets to relax more at home. This is one of the million reasons women are more open to staying single. I make decent money. Enough to afford my own house, etc. If I date someone who makes the same amount of money as me, great. We split expenses and chores, and both have a bit more disposable income and free time. What a dream. If I date someone who makes more money than me… I’m suddenly doing more chores than I ever did when I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:14 PM
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If my hypothetical spouse dropped me from their health insurance plan, I wouldn’t be able to get health insurance through my job for almost a year, because I would have to wait for my job’s open enrollment. Getting divorced is a “qualifying event,” that allows me to add health insurance at any time. Bring dropped from my husband’s policy is not. I would have to buy health insurance on the marketplace, which I wouldn’t be able to afford. I wouldn’t get any discounts, because my husbands income wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:57 PM
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There’s no recourse for your spouse draining your life savings from the joint account except divorce. If my spouse spends all of our savings on their affair partner, in the divorce I can ask for other assets to make up for it (home equity, value from their retirement accounts, etc). If we stay married, there is no recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:43 PM
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I am asking the author of the post what they mean! Your title is about discrimination. Your post includes zero reference to discrimination. Do you really think Leo DiCaprio is discriminated against because randos make comments online??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:28 PM
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…are you saying that’s discrimination to you??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:17 PM
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“Discrimination” meaning WHAT?? Someone having feelings? Someone posting their feelings online?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:58 AM
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Is there something that stops that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:17 PM
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This doesn't prevent physical separation from your spouse if you need to spend some time away while you're both in counseling. It also doesn’t prevent your spouse from physically leaving you entirely. You’ll just be legally bound to them. Picture your forever husband moving in with another woman. He transfers all the money from the joint accounts into accounts in his name. He stops paying the mortgage. He cancels your health insurance. He cancels your car insurance. Your phone doesn’t work, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 PM
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He literally admitted he lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:40 AM
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Disrespectful to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:50 PM
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The same way OJ was acquitted of killing his wife. What kind of fantasy land are you living in? Do you think there’s enough evidence to convict criminals of every crime in a court of law?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:12 PM
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If you don’t know whether men are interchangeable with one another, you can’t have any position on whether “women” are interchangeable with “men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:46 PM
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Interchangeable? Are men interchangeable with each other? Is a gay man interchangeable with a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:34 PM
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data gathered and release by tinder themselves, backs up the 80/20 rule. Where
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:30 PM
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OK? This has nothing to do with the fact that you lied in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:52 PM
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ACQUITTED DOES NOT MEAN THE ALLEGATION WAS FALSE
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:46 PM
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And where did I contradict it? Show me? I have already quoted the relevant parts of your post and the article you referenced. The NCRB did NOT say that 74% of allegations are fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:39 PM
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You blatantly lied about what a government office stated. Your own sources contradict your false statement. Sure, everyone says that I would hope so!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:33 PM
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Not the organization OP cited, that’s for sure. OP is assuming that every single charge that doesn’t lead to a conviction is a false allegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:29 PM
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So much bullshit here. You: According to NCRB, about 74 percent of rape cases reported (not under investigation as under investigation only 8% are fake) are fake. Your source: “ As per the statistics by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), about 74% of rape cases under Section 376 of the Indian Penal Code end up acquitting the accused.” These are completely different statements. Absence of conviction =/= false allegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:27 PM
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Debate what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:46 AM
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Double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:36 PM
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You confirmed that it was a double standard. These double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:10 PM
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It’s not a double standard to start with. No one is entitled to a relationship. No one is obligated to stay in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:01 PM
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I'm 18 and I've never been in a relationship Can we assume that you’ve never had friends before? Because it’s extremely obvious that you aren’t entitled to anyone being your friend. And it’s also extremely obvious that if someone isn’t a good friend to you, that you don’t have to continue being their friend. That isn’t a double standard. There’s no conflict here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:44 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:39 PM
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if you've had 20 boyfriends at this point, and you couldn't get any of them to marry you, how do you know if you magically had a kid, that kid would like you forever? What do these have to do with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:55 PM
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But you are still 100% wrong about the definition. No other dataset is perfect either. When cops died of Covid, they were counted as “line of duty” deaths, even if there was little evidence they caught Covid at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:07 PM
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I read comment after comment on this sub from men saying they have no standards for women related to their personality. They date ANYONE who isn’t fat. When men are willing to date women they don’t like in order to get sex, of course women are going to be the ones ending these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:11 PM
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False: CDC: “ but not from accidental or incidental causes” “ Consistent with previous reports, the number of maternal deaths does not include all deaths occurring to pregnant or recently pregnant women, but only deaths with the underlying cause of death assigned to International Statistical Classification of Diseases, 10th Revisioncode numbers A34, O00–O95, and O98–O99.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:05 PM
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doctors can test you for any life threatening problems False. Many reasons women die don’t present until childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:50 PM
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You’re twice as like to die in childbirth as you are working as a cop for a year. CDC: “The maternal mortality rate for 2021 was 32.9 deaths per 100,000 live births” Bureau of Labor statistics: “The rate of fatal workplace injuries to police officers and other law enforcement personnel averaged about 14 per 100,000 employed” It’s also significantly more deadly than car crashes. CDC: “ In 2019, the population-based motor vehicle crash death rate in the United States (11.1 per 100,000 population) …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:45 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:08 PM
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So this is the second most easy time to get sex in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:05 PM
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At what point in history was it easier to get SEX?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:44 AM
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Was John Brown fundamentally unable to be an abolishionist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:06 PM
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You’ve got to be kidding 🤣 What do you think happens when someone immigrates legally? Every country just throws the paperwork in the trash? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/12/16/key-facts-about-recent-trends-in-global-migration/ 2000, 50.6% of international migrants were men and 49.4% were women. https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/migration Female migrants constituted 48 per cent of international migrants
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:51 AM
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Whoa, this is what you used to generalize about worldwide immigration? Why??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:07 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:25 PM
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There has been tons of immigration from countries in Africa, the middle east and Asia to Europe and it has been pretty much exclusively men. Why would you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:28 PM
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So, men are incapable of suggesting solutions to men’s problems? Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:31 PM
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There’s a reason you didn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:20 PM
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I think it’s a “compared to what?” question. It’s not really about whether the current situation is working, but about whether any alternative is ethical. What’s the “solution” to the current dynamic? How would it be implemented?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:06 PM
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Did not watch video, but dated a bit as a woman in my late 30s. I matched more with men younger than me, but generally not more than 5 years (but that was probably my age range setting). I think it had more to do with lifestyle compatibility in the form of not having or wanting kids. I’d rather date someone childless which is more common in younger guys, and they’d rather date someone who is older instead of someone their age with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:34 PM
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Yep! The same way people express all kinds of individual personal preferences every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:05 PM
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Women say they’d rather choose the best, yes or no? I absolutely have not been hearing women say that. I hear women say they choose the bear and why. I do not hear women saying that the bear is “best.” My point is, choose the bear is not an option that seems to be chosen out of reason You’re free to choose the man!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:59 PM
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Your position is clear, but it’s a counter argument to a statement that no one is making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:36 PM
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Of course there is. There’s a huge difference between a personal individual choice and a statement about which is better. If I drink decaf coffee because of a heart condition, it’s not the same as saying decaf is “better.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:33 PM
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I think your argument is a straw man. This is what you are arguing against: The argument that a bear is a better option But I don’t hear woman saying that the bear is the better option. I hear them saying “I choose the bear.” Those are not the same things. We could argue all day about whether it’s better to get up early or stay up late. There are facts, figures, theories we could use to support our positions. But when a person says, “I’m a night owl,” it’s not an argument about what is better. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:28 PM
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The same reason no one does. The same reason you drive a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:24 PM
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lol, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:22 PM
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But doesn’t locking your doors mean you’re afraid? By OPs logic, that means you should never invite anyone big into the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:07 PM
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*charade
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:01 PM
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Can you give any example of any group of people using the same logic in another situation? They don’t sort prisons by physical size. They sort based on past behavior (the crimes people have committed). Men I know lock their doors at night, but still invite friends who are bigger than them over to watch the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:54 PM
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Do men even know what testosterone does?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:37 PM
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It's immoral to pretend you have intentions for a woman you know you don't When does OP say he does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:31 PM
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But their other distinction was honorable: Mr Darcy wasn't a Chad though. Like, yes he was very handsome and arrogant, but was shown to be quite honorable. If Mr Darcy can’t be a Chad because he was honorable, surely Laurie can’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:36 PM
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Your problem is not that people aren't reading your post. Your problem is that people are reading your post, and they know what the word “all” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:29 PM
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Why is Laurie a Chad if Mr Darcy is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:11 PM
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In the books you referenced in this post, which characters are Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:09 PM
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OP can’t even find 4 novels from the 1800s that prove their point, but they’re sure “ some things remain universal.” Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:32 PM
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And why bother?? “Here’s my lengthy treatise on how 4 books written by women (except the ones that weren’t) have the same story (except the ones that don’t) which is universal (but I can only find in books from the 1800s). What does it imply?” Nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:18 PM
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Only ones from the 1800s though 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:12 PM
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“In all the stories, the same thing happens, except when it doesn’t” Sure, that makes sense 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:45 PM
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In all these stories, the woman falls for the 'Chad', gets hurt In Little Women?? Literally what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:35 PM
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4 novels written by women How did you fuck this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:32 PM
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Like the other paragraph where you also talk about first dates? From the very first date with a guy, most are already expecting the guy to pay for their meals and cater to them. It must be really devastating to realize that women don’t love you on the first date!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:33 AM
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Less likely to succeed at cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:23 AM
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That is not related to confidence. If you’re not acting confident with strangers, you’re sharing your insecurity and being vulnerable with them. That is emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:20 AM
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Two people fucking on a first date isn’t based on love! What a shocker!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:17 AM
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I met my partner over 40. He still isn’t 40 and easily could have dated someone younger. My friends over forty don’t have trouble finding men who are attracted to them to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:14 AM
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a loyal guy, you probably won’t find him attractive. Most likely because he doesn’t have options How could anyone know whether a man without options is loyal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:13 AM
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It’s a lie to treat a person you just met like a person you just met… that’s a take! Weird that men make friends so easily, yet report having fewer close friends than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:00 AM
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acting serious and sexually dominant Acting confident requires neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:54 AM
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There’s a reason you insulted me instead of quoting the part of the post where OP says women have no inherent value but sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:30 AM
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In my experience, men who can’t maintain emotional boundaries with strangers are always problems. If a man needs to tell women he barely knows about his insecurities to stay “authentic,” it’s not going to go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:55 AM
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Which does not include the word “I” for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:25 AM
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viewing women as basically interchangeable with no inherent value other than sex? Not in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:14 AM
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He’s deliberately choosing to act like a normal person and is calling it objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:03 AM
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Acting confident = you’re not human? What are you talking about? I act confident with all human beings I don’t know well. And I’m still myself when I do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:57 PM
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Exactly! The feelings are real, but they are feelings about your underinformed impression of a person, not the actual person!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:34 PM
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I’m getting the feeling that a lot of folks here missed the memo on how to behave with strangers. Acting confident doesn’t mean acting like someone else. It means acting like you are spending time with someone who has not yet proven that they are worthy of emotional intimacy… because that is the case! It is HONEST to treat a date like someone you barely know instead of a partner. That is who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:20 PM
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Of course it is. You should be acting noncommittal with people you just met because you should not be ready to commit to people you just met! It is NORMAL not to be really attached to someone you’ve spent a few hours with on a few dates. They are A STRANGER. Relationships are about BUILDING trust and attachment based on people’s actual personality and actions over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:13 PM
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Why the everloving fuck would it be immoral to act charming and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:58 PM
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You’re conflating two things: 1- How rare good men are (and you’ve provided zero evidence that they aren’t rare) 2- How hard someone should work to find something they’d like (and you’ve provided zero information to back up your position) There are plenty of things that would be nice to have, but are not worth the effort or risk to get. That has nothing to do with being “weak-minded” or “strong-minded.” It would be dumb to say “Sweetie, there are winning lottery tickets out there. Therefore, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:02 PM
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So for Joe, wanting a woman who's young, not fat, and has no kids is an absurdly low standard and quite literally the bare minimum. But when Joe goes on the internet and says this If Joe’s standard is absurdly low in his dating pool… why is he single and online venting about not being able to meet a woman who meets his standard? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:09 PM
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I chose to ignore… what he didn’t say. I know the answer… but had to ask the answer because I don’t have two brain cells. Interesting takes!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:35 PM
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I am asking someone a clarifying question about their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:33 PM
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You're all over the place. Either value is determined by effort, or market price. As you just demonstrated, they aren’t the same, so it can’t be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:10 PM
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Sounds like things of value do come easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:48 PM
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Where does OP “admit” any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:15 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:02 AM
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Who is this message for? You want women to “acknowledge” declining fertility, but also say: women actually know these things. This is why you hear women accuse men of "wasting their time" This isn’t exactly some secret. wait until you see how bad it can be at 45 when many people already have kids and you'll have to deal with baby mama drama. In my experience, this is when men start aging out of baby mama drama. Plenty of 45 year-olds have kids in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:50 AM
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A lot of the couple problems are really not hard work at all. It just requires one to be an adult. You just provided a ton of examples where ONE person was an adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:03 AM
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How do you figure? I could work really hard at digging a hole in my backyard. Why is my big pit valuable? I could spend two hours getting my hair dyed blond, and become more attractive to most men. Why wouldn’t that be valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:28 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:56 AM
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Not “meaningful” in what way? And why would a standard need to be meaningful in that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:54 AM
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“Disliking” meaning what? Not dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:41 AM
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When do you ask women about n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:21 AM
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Match in what sense? If a man makes $33k, is his financematch a woman who makes $33k? Or is his financematch a woman who makes $25k (the median for single women’s income where $33k is the median for single men) Is the match the same, or the equivalent percentile?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:42 PM
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The black guy who got fired from Tesla won 3.2 million dollars. He literally WAS NOT FIRED!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:27 PM
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Only 10-12% of US employees are in a union. Less than most countries, especially developed countries. You really do not know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:16 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:06 PM
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They are also working remotely at home. You obviously think this means “not busy,” which is extremely weird on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:02 PM
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And no, most of them weren't busy either. Most of them had one or both spouses working at home to watch the kids and a lot of the dirtiest rooms didn't even have kids or a spouse. You’re talking about people watching kids while working full time jobs not being busy? That’s the claim here? 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:47 PM
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In your mind, the top 5% of men are currently available because women haven’t asked them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:47 PM
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Men are seen as thirsty because their behavior reflects the actual truth that random sex provides more benefit to men and less risk to men. Men are more likely to enjoy and orgasm from sex with randos. Men are less likely to get STDs or harmed during sex with randos. Men pursue sex with randos. This is rational behavior. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:45 PM
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wouldn’t making men wait weed out the ones who are just looking for something quick? The concern I expressed was about men who waste years of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:21 PM
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And men in general would be less thirsty, as women currently are, because it would be easier for them to be validated by sex How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:19 PM
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But we both agree on the subject being debated, right? You think the “issues of modern dating” are cause by testosterone and women’s options. So neither of us think women making the first move solves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:58 PM
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I’m not sure why you’d be the one who needs convincing. OP is asking women to change their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:38 PM
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They guy who courted you endlessly Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:33 PM
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Many men tolerate relationships with women they don't like because those women are the only options they had in years You’re proving my point. If I ask a guy out, he may say yes and date me for years, even though he doesn’t like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:26 PM
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Many men will tolerate a relationship with a women they do not even like if it was easy to get. Healthy women aren’t afraid of being rejected by men, they’re (rightly) afraid of NOT being rejected. They’re afraid of someone wasting years of their life when they don’t love them and aren’t committed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:01 PM
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I’m a woman who goes 50/50, and I think there are valid points here. There are men who seek out partners who are younger than them (which usually translates into broke) and who are done up (which means spending their discretionary funds on makeup, clothes, etc), then they complain about having to pay for dinner. Bro, what did you expect? It’s like wanting to date a woman who wears heels, but making her walk from the parking lot with you instead of dropping her off at the door. I’m happy to pay 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:46 PM
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Sure, so is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:12 AM
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You’re just saying men are cheaters but not making a value judgement…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:59 PM
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are dating apps designed to suck in general or are men's in particular at fault for being bad? Both? A lot of men’s profiles suck on a fundamental level. I’m not talking about not being able to make yourself look good, but just the ability to present oneself at all. I swiped left soooo many times because I had no idea what the person looked like. (I know women do this too, but men swipe right anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️) A lot of men behave in ways that turn women away from the apps. There are a small amount o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:55 PM
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Slack as in they aren’t as present or supportive? Or slack as in they have secret credit card debt or are cheating? There’s a difference between a rough patch and a betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:46 AM
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What about it? They get interest from 80% of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:57 PM
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Why don’t the top men hold any cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:02 PM
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I thought the reason men “gas up mids” is because of their biological urge to have sex with more women? Men are going to do what they have to do to get laid, even if it’s feigning interest. It’s an incredibly strong biological impulse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:31 PM
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Perfect comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:10 PM
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What difference does that make? I’m biologically predisposed to perceive fatty and sugary food as nutritious. A donut being unhealthy doesn’t change the fact that my desires are a matter of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:08 PM
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But it’s women’s options that make them delusional? Now you’re saying women’s delusions make the options?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:02 PM
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Why don’t you think women’s attraction changing in response to options is biological? There are obvious reasons why that would be an evolutionary advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:58 PM
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You’re free to disagree with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:33 PM
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not serial swiping on every girl just to get laid then their standards and dating market would return to normal. In other words, men are the problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:24 PM
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say they want traits in a man they actually don't want Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:49 PM
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If 40% is a lot of people, certainly 70% is. Of course that means 40% are, which is a lot of people What percent of men should have had sex in the last year? I’ve had very good reasons for going without sex some years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:20 PM
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About half of kids are born out of wedlock. About half of marriages end in divorce. The idea that women are or should trade their childbirth for a husband is not rooted in reality. Men get married because they want to be married. Men in high demand (money, tall, educated) get married and stay married more than other men. Because they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:09 PM
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Integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:59 PM
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If you think the answer to the post’s question is “rich guys,” perhaps you should post a top level comment saying as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:46 PM
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Exactly, not a thing about rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:30 PM
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The question was if a lot of guys are single because the rich guys are scooping up all the girls Not in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:08 PM
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So ~70% percent of young men had sex in the last year… which is very different than your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:57 PM
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How is that the point? Men with higher incomes are the more likely to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:39 PM
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Link the Pew surevey that says that most young men haven’t had sex in the past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:16 PM
2

Brought to you by the gender that commits 95% of murders…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:05 PM
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It’s a pretty common manipulation tactic: Trauma dumping to artificially escalate perception of emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:01 PM
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The vast majority of people marry partners of a similar economic and educational status. The vast majority of men are open to having sex with a lot of women that aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:56 AM
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Tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:31 AM
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In what sense is the cult “feminist?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:44 AM
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Of course most are concerned with affordability, education, and standards. That is not mutually exclusive with sexism being a problem for women and impacting their decisions. I’m going to trust what I’ve learned from actual Koreans and Korean sources instead of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:04 AM
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Cool beans. My boyfriend is Korean and I have friends in Korea. I don’t think that makes me an expert, but I guess that qualifies me as an expert to you. It’s not about whether 4B is popular or well-known anywhere. But it is about the sexist expectations of women in relationships that influence 4B and millions of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:12 AM
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I think there’s a misalignment of standards and perceived entitlements. Some men think they deserve one kind of lady. But they’ll actually date almost any kind of lady. And it makes them mad. They’re not going to enforce their beliefs by leaving the fat frumpy women alone… they’re just going to be shitty partners and bitch about the injustice to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:05 AM
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But like, anyone who finished a single article about the 4B movement would get to the part where woman say why they’re doing it… (it’s not because it’s a feminist country) Being totally ignorant is one thing, but this is… special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:54 AM
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That’s definitely a thought a person could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:25 AM
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Men are lying to fat women about men wanting to date them… so that they can keep dating them… 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:19 AM
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You haven’t accidentally overheard a specific kind of private conversation that one woman might have with another woman… and that’s how you know it doesn’t happen… OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:15 AM
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…literally why??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:08 AM
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How could you see it if it’s private?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:03 AM
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You’re saying that men on PurplePill bitching about how easy it is for fat women to date are doing so to appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:00 AM
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Wait… do you think feminine and feminist are the same thing??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 AM
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Every day on this sub men scream about how fat women have great dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:50 AM
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Why would anyone think that South Korea will become a feminist country?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:47 AM
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I’d encourage you to look at this guys comments and see how little he’s paying in taxes… hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:39 AM
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Most people aren’t criticized for having standards, but for declaring them in inappropriate situations. There are just almost no situations in which there’s a good reason to announce your standards. You don’t have to say your standards to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:59 PM
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Sure, sure, with the imaginary “grants”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:31 PM
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You say that women are overpaid but only men pay taxes?? How do you imagine this works? Do you think there’s a separate tax for for ladies? Is it pink? This is too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:21 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me? None of these are grants. Edit to add: At this point, I’m going to assume you don’t understand what grants are, or that you’re just bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:51 PM
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OK? What grants are they though? And what grants are given to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:46 PM
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I’m not familiar with any grants given to all women, or female home purchasers. What are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:41 PM
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“Work out” meaning what? What’s your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:36 PM
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You want to marry women you’re angry at and distrustful of? Or do you disagree with that part of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:19 PM
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Tell me where I can get a grant for having a same-sex roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:18 PM
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What does arranged marriage have to do with respect? I know people in arranged marriages who treat each other respectfully, and others who do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:55 PM
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So, it doesn’t matter whether a woman actually feels that way, just that she treats him as if she does to his face?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:50 PM
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It’s truly a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:44 PM
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Respect defined as what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:41 PM
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I dismissed you because your comment was completely irrelevant to the conversation you chose to join. Which you apparently didn’t read or understand. What a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:24 PM
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What does this have to do with the post or my comments? Why should I care? Tell me how this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:18 PM
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Cool, maybe men in India would shave their legs to get women. Why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:57 PM
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There’s also a big correlation with the onset of perimenopause and menopause. Like, yeah people are going to seek out mood stabilizing medications when they’re on a hormonal rollercoaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:40 PM
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Why are single older women on more antidepressants than the rest of the population? https://www.npwomenshealthcare.com/older-women-use-the-most-antidepressants-survey-finds/ Your source does not include a single reference to the relationship status of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:37 PM
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That’s not the discussion, so it’s not relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:20 PM
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The data says otherwise. But let’s say you’re right… How is that relevant to my perception of what MEN would do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:04 PM
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Most single guys actually would You’re free to believe this. I do not. Less that 30% of men get even the MINIMUM amount of exercise recommended by the Dept of Health and Human Services. And that’s just to stay alive, not look hot. The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:24 PM
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The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:18 PM
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need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that yo get him “Need to” for what purpose?? need to ask themsemselves if they're okay with that. I shave my legs partially to appeal to men. I asked myself if men would go that to attract women. I think not. What now? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:13 PM
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How can you be both liberated and want to be provided for so extravagantly? It’s liberation because they both get the choice whether to be in this kind of relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:08 PM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:31 PM
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Give us a single metric that demonstrates how successful Republican areas are at caring for each other. Do red states have lower rates of infant mortality or child food insecurity? How is their “community oriented” nature paying off?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:10 PM
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I have female friends who travel with their female friends and have a lot of fun. But you’re saying this is a waste of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:57 PM
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But the claim we’re discussing here is whether women have delusional standards for casual sex. Yes or No?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:47 PM
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You just said women don’t struggle to have sex with Chads. Now you’re saying Chads won’t have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:21 PM
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What is the delusion?? How can it be delusional if it’s completely acheiveable??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:12 PM
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Then why are you calling their standards for casual sex delusional?? Many of them do have delusional standards, particularly online and when it comes to casual sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:08 PM
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mens groups being far and few between and not offering sufficient privacy You specifically say that you didn’t even bother to Google mens groups before posting? So why are you talking trash about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:06 PM
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What makes them delusional standards? You think it’s hard to have casual sex with tall guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:58 PM
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OK? None of that changes the fact that you have NEVER MET HIM and he has NEVER MADE FUN OF YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:51 PM
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…for measuring the level to which different media impact genders? How would it be? I’m not following. Let’s say we both know that you eat candy and I eat less candy than you. But that doesn’t tell us how that candy harms us, because maybe I have diabetes. I know women use social media 12% more than men =/= I know how much women and men are harmed by social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:40 PM
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Same type of dude =/= the person You’re seriously equating some guy you’ve never met to a few people you knew in high school because he has a particular hobby??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:28 PM
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And that addresses neither of my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:22 PM
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the person who made fun of people who liked the sport is now dating someone who likes the sport. Who are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:20 PM
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This is the best comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:15 PM
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Based on what? How are you measuring these levels? And why would it matter? If women are negatively affected by social media, and men are negatively affected by porn AND social media, neither porn or social media need to negatively affect men to the “same level” to have a devastating affect cumulatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:10 PM
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It’s bizarre to watch all of this news coverage of abortion bans having devastating impacts on individual women and access to health care for all affected women… and then think women want liberal partners because of social media programming. We just want to live bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 PM
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This is one of the weirdest mind tricks that Reddit users try to play on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:47 PM
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Are we pretending men don’t use social media or just that they aren’t affected by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:44 PM
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Mentally strong, never has breakdowns or is lost, you cant corner him in a situation where he is "stressed" or depressed. It’s great that you’ve managed to pull this off for 5 years of adulthood… but I’m a lot older than you, and don’t know anyone who has. Not because of personal weakness, but because that’s the nature of life. If you’re not stressed or depressed when your kid is in the hospital or your spouse has cancer, you’re not human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:18 PM
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Why don’t you ask the people pressuring you why they’re pressuring you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:28 AM
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Various points of data Cite them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:11 AM
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Completely depends on his personality. The majority of men have gotten married and/or had kids by his age. What’s his romantic history? Did he always have these goals, or are they new? What’s his social life like? Is he able to maintain other relationships, like friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:45 PM
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Why would it do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:01 PM
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Wow, I’m disputing a bullshit claim that you actually made, and your retort is to criticize a claim that I did not make. If you equate getting married to being invisible to women, that’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:48 PM
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Again, you are telling me that your personal experience is the EXACT opposite of what you just claimed! You were NOT the maximum amount of human, and spent 8 years with your dream girl, and had a string of other relationships. Now you ARE the maximum amount of human, and are “basically invisible.” Are you listening to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:37 PM
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Your metric wasn’t “not the same.” Your metric was every waking moment invisible unless they are maximum of amount human. It’s your choice to spout bullshit that’s disproven by your own lived experience! Don’t get mad at me for noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:31 PM
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The average man has sex and gets married by 30. I don’t think they are all the “maximum amount of human they can be.” The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:15 PM
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Possibly, but it would require a lot of terrible sex and failed attempts n the process, and a lot of safety concerns. the implicit permission to threaten the standards of normative behavior are working for her. Not really. Men are just more likely to actually get enjoyment from the activities that would be proposed. Almost no women would have an orgasm watching strangers have sex on a car in the woods, so there’s very little reason go consent to participate. Men aren’t saying yes out of charity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:13 PM
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“Have sex with another man” is not promiscuous!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:02 PM
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women would date shorter weaker pasty men who have never seen the inside of a gym If a woman isn’t attracted to these men, why date at all? Even if he did get violent you are more likely to fight him off than a 6ft line backer. Most women murdered by a partner were murdered using a weapon, about half with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:05 PM
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Oh no! You didn’t find it compelling?!? Thanks for letting us know!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:52 AM
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Am I an outlier? I doubt it. Plus I know so many badass women who are just like me. I’m in a similar spot, and am also surrounded by similar women. But it’s worth noting that it is statistically rare to be healthy, educated, financially independent, and childless at your (and my) age. There are plenty of us… but we’re still lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:45 AM
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If there are going to be endless posts claiming that “post-wall” women are miserable, there’s room for posts by “post-wall” women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:41 AM
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Then why do they find it so hard to not be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:07 PM
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But not so easy or beneficial that we should talk about men doing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:02 PM
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Why would that be a reason for women not to be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:01 PM
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Fraud is still illegal even when you’re married. A woman who forges her husbands signature or uses cards in his name without permission is still committing a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:48 PM
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It doesn’t seem to be much of a turnoff for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:29 PM
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Most women aren’t that interested in dating total strangers. The risk/reward ratio is too skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:33 PM
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The women I know tend to become less affectionate and adoring because they’ve been emotionally hurt or disrespected in the relationship, not because of the guy’s physicality. You have to be one more independent if you determine you can’t really count on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:04 PM
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Guess what all these men have in common: Divorce. Women aren't loyal in their heart, they're going to dump you as soon as they can find someone better. Russell Bramd decided to divorce his wife and told her by text message. Ben Stiller is literally not divorced! Tiger Woods cheated with on his wife repeatedly. Edit to add: Usher filed for divorce just months after his wife gave birth, which caused such complications that his wife was in a brief coma. Talk about weakest and darkest times…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:24 AM
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“Success rates” meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:50 AM
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What? Having sex before marriage is as bad as intentionally spreading disease. (!) Kissing before marriage is as bad as intentionally spreading disease… unless one of you has given the other a magic piece of jewelry. This is too dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:41 AM
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What? Why is it less bad to give someone herpes on their face??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:34 AM
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Are you joking? Of course it does not. Pre literally means BEFORE. That’s why affairs aren’t premarital affairs. They are extramarital affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:29 AM
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An issue? That’s not the discussion here. Do you believe kissing anyone before marriage is “as bad as purposely spreading disease?” Have you ever kissed anyone outside of marriage? Did your mother kiss your father before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:27 AM
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Swingers basically may as well just be hook ups. And? Your post is about before and after marriage. polyamory rarely translated to actual marriage Polyamory =/= polygamy. You seem really ignorant about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:24 AM
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You’ve never heard of swingers or polyamory?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:19 AM
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You agree with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:18 AM
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And premarital kissing? Cold sores are herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:59 AM
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Are you confused about the different definitions of entitled? You can google Miriam-Webster and see them both. A good test of whether you feel entitled as in the synonym for spoiled, is when you think you should get privileges that you don’t think other people should get. Do you think all people deserve the access to clean water? If yes, you believe that clean water is something everyone is entitled to have. Do you believe that you deserve clean water, but that other people do not? If so, YOU ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:50 AM
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You stated the challenge was to get “dates.” Then you said “interested in seeing Abbey.” You are the only person trying to move the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:53 PM
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I’m saying it’s dishonest to claim you accomplished something you absolutely did not accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:48 PM
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I just went through the first four, and none of them have times or locations?? These are not dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:44 PM
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What would be entitlement if not the belief that it’s OK to violate the human rights of others because they won’t have sex with you? You are proving the accusation of entitlement 100% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:07 PM
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However, if a man who's unattractive expresses frustration that is so hard to find a women these days Expresses frustration to whom? For what purpose? 50% of the population is male. Are you saying that MEN respond to dating frustration by saying, “male entitlement” and “misogyny?” Or are you saying that 50% of the population is understanding and empathetic, but you need it from women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:20 PM
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However, the same logic doesn't apply to relationships with women. Women often remember the men who did the least for them. It doesn’t apply to any interpersonal relationships. If men didn’t care about women who didn’t put in effort, you wouldn’t have had any reason to make this post! You’re literally talking about men who bought CARS for women, and then saying women are the ones who like people who don’t put in effort. But we’re not the ones buying cars for people who don’t like us…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:33 PM
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I think there’s a generation of women who saw their moms try to go 50/50, and ended up doing everything. My mom was the bigger earner, and did the majority of the housework, cooking, and kid duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I have dick on tap Are women denying that it’s easy to find men who will fuck them? You can go to Two X and see women talk about how men with fuck anything that moves. This is not something that people deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:25 PM
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All men want is for women to acknowledge Why? The reason women have needed men to acknowledge their privilege is to make sure laws and policies don’t exclude women from succeeding in public spheres of life. An example is ensuring that women don’t get fired when they are pregnant. Are there laws and policy changes you are lobbying for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:21 PM
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Jane Austen died in 1817. Where would you expect men direct their complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:59 PM
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I read Jane Eyre in school and a bit of Fifty shades of grey. I read summary of pride and prejudice and even a book report by a classmate on that. I noticed a pattern, all males had one thing in common tall, handsome and rich. In the only book you claim to have read, the guy was specifically described as NOT TALL (“neither tall nor graceful”). Pride and Prejudice is full of men who are not tall, not handsome, or not rich. You picked three books, all by a British authors, two published in the ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:27 PM
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