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You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:32 PM
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Yes, we disagree on the existence of unilateral decisions. No one has sole control over all the factors of any decision, but I believe unilateral decisions still exist. I respect your position that they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:33 PM
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You’re free to say that. You’re not free to lie about what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:24 PM
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My original comment does not address the decision to have the child in any way, much less whose burden it is. it’s factually incorrect that women are obligated to pay child support for kids they don’t want to the same degree as men. It is absolutely possible to abandon a kid without the consent of the father. I can have a kid, never tell the father he got me pregnant, and deliver it to a safe haven, without risk of ever paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:17 PM
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You won the argument by agreeing with my original comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:12 PM
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What in the world? This is the comment you replied to: it’s factually incorrect that women are obligated to pay child support for kids they don’t want to the same degree as men. It is absolutely possible to abandon a kid without the consent of the father. I can have a kid, never tell the father he got me pregnant, and deliver it to a safe haven, without risk of ever paying child support. I have not participated in any disagreement about “which parent had the unilateral decision to prevent the bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:04 PM
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you are changing the logic we agreed upon in the beginning of this conversation. I have no clue what you are talking about. What you’ve just described are extenuating circumstances that influence people’s ability to make decisions The existence of my car is an extenuating circumstance? No. if this is the case then a women DOES NOT have the unilateral decision to surrender or get an abortion when we consider external forces that influence her decision Yes, that is YOUR POSITION. I disagree with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:55 PM
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No decision ever taken is without the influence of other’s past decisions. If I go outside to my car right now, and drive a thousand miles east, without talking to anyone, my decision is influenced by my parents decision to be together, the car manufacturers decisions, the department of transportation for every state I cross.. Your position is that unilateral decisions do not exist. So I don’t know why you wasted my time arguing about one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:45 PM
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But you’re saying that it’s unilaterally just the man? The woman has zero part in getting pregnant? And because the man unilaterally gets her pregnant, nothing she does later is unilateral (abortion, surrender, etc)? Even if she doesn’t tell him or involve him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:37 PM
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The decision to have a child or to not have a child fully rest on the person who can unilaterally determine whether or not to set off a chain of events Which person is that??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:33 PM
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OK? But the answer you your question is yes, correct? You think women are able to unilaterally surrender a child they have been carrying for 10 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:24 PM
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Would you describe this hypothetical differently? I have sex with a man. I realize I’m pregnant. I do not tell him. I break up with the man and end contact. I give birth. I surrender the infant to a safe haven, giving it up for adoption. This is unilateral, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:20 PM
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Nope. What does that have to do with the fact that it’s possible for a woman to unilaterally surrender a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:12 PM
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but that would be illegal if the father is fit to parent. What law do you imagine this breaks?? Show me a case where a woman surrendered an infant without naming the father, and was prosecuted because the father was fit to parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:57 PM
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I’m not arguing the validity of abortions. Just that it’s factually incorrect that women are obligated to pay child support for kids they don’t want* to the same degree as men.* It is absolutely possible to abandon a kid without the consent of the father. I can have a kid, never tell the father he got me pregnant, and deliver it to a safe haven, without risk of ever paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:39 PM
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any potential parental obligations from accidental pregnancies should be considered voidable by written or verbal agreement between the biological parents, just like with egg and sperm donations. I agree with this as long as it happens the same way it does with sperm donors: BEFORE CONCEPTION. Men should be able to present a contract to potential sex partners indicating that they waive all rights and responsibilities to any potential offspring. This way, both partners can make an informed decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:28 PM
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Women can have abortions. Women can drop off their infant in a safe haven drop box in many locations across the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:25 PM
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Most women have dated at least one guy who spent so much time playing video games that it harmed the romantic relationship, and potentially their ability to take care of themselves (sleep), perform well at work, or maintain friendships. So most women will try to avoid repeating the scenario, even if it means rejecting men who play games in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:10 PM
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At point would you acknowledge a man's efforts are sufficient and the environment he is in is the issue? This is a false choice. There are a lot of things that could make women disinterested in a man that have nothing to do with “effort.” There are un changeable aspects to people’s appearance and personality that are beyond their control. A lack of success of a particular person does not necessarily say anything about effort or environment. “Sufficient” is not a relevant metric here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:51 PM
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But if the argument is that society is vapid, so marriages are vapid, what is the point of the last paragraph? Suddenly everything about the way we live our lives is vapid, except for Stephanie’s micro wedding?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:43 PM
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For initial attraction, personality is just more readily apparent. If I’m more attracted to people who are funny, of course I’m going to be attracted to someone I see making jokes and laughing. An introvert may be just as funny, but I wouldn’t know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:24 PM
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I guess not! I use different strategies to meet people for different purposes, and it works well for me. The advice I’d give a single guy to find a date is completely different than the strategy I’d use to find a gal pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:47 PM
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You are here glorifying marriage before it was a choice, telling us it was more legitimate. That’s how I know you don’t value choice. It’s not that complicated. If I said that running a southern cotton farm was a more legitimate business in the 1700s than today, that’s a clear statement, even if I never mention slavery. What you exclude from your comparison speaks as loudly as what you highlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:38 PM
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unwise and silly to fully renounce the past and embrace this shitty society That’s not the discussion. And I never addressed the aspect of choice Yes, your values speaking. I think the institution of marriage is much more legitimate today, precisely because it’s a choice. You see choice as irrelevant to the legitimacy of an institution, because your values are different. You think wearing a ring or having a buffet at a party is more relevant to the legitimacy of an institution. And that’s a posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:30 PM
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Women used to have to get married for financial security and social acceptance. Women used to have to stay together unless they could prove that their partner was at “fault” in the eyes of the law, and potentially their church. That’s when you say marriage was more legitimate. Today marriage is something people have to choose to do and choose to stay in. That’s when you say marriage is less legitimate. It’s less legitimate because people have white collar jobs and because they throw a party when…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:15 PM
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Marriage is less legitimate… but marriages are not less legitimate… interesting. Women getting married because they can’t support themselves single or because they’re worried about being shunned from their community… a legitimate institution. Women getting married because they actually choose to… a result of captitalism and spritual bankruptcy… because they have a party or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:06 PM
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I’m assuming you mean Keynesian. His name was John Maynard Keynes. a spend first economy which in turn is commercializing multiple institutions, including marriage. Great, TELL US HOW. When my grandmother married John the coal miner because he built a house on his parents property, HOW was that marriage more legitimate. When I married Bill because he was a midlevel manager at a tech firm and could qualify for a mortgage in a HCOL city, HOW is it marriage less legitimate. You are the one who cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:53 PM
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Now you’re making even less sense! I’m married to a coal miner, so my marriage is legitimate. I’m married to a web designer, so my marriage is less legitimate…? Literally what the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:34 PM
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Why is a house someone bought “of less true legitimate value” than a house someone built or inherited?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:27 PM
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Did you read your post? Furthermore, many past societies weren’t primarily driven by monetary value, but rather, what you can tangibly bring to the table. People used to bring tangible THINGS, back when marriage was legitimate. less about financial provision As opposed to now, when it’s about the financial provision of THINGS. Which is less legitimate, for reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:20 PM
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This makes no sense to me. “I need to find a husband who can build me a house” and “I need to find a wife who can take care of my babies” is legitimate…? “I need to find a husband who can buy a house” and “I need to find a wife who can pay for daycare” is illegitimate…? Why in the world is the former better or “more legitimate” than the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:11 PM
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goes against all the advice from women on here about how easy it is to meet women out in everyday life I guess I don’t know what your referring to. But I’m not sure what advice about dating has to do with making same-sex friends? I'd bet there are 100x more women using apps like bumble bff than men using those same apps for platonic friendships. I completely agree, but I’m not sure what the point is? Why is it crazy to put effort into making new friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:38 PM
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Oh, so you don’t mean “ it’s crazy how many,” you mean “it’s crazy that any?” Why is it crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:23 PM
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You’re saying that all men would PREFER to be stay-at-home dads staying home with the kids all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:20 PM
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Those don’t sound like “crazy” numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:25 PM
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“Okay” in what sense? Why wouldn’t it be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:24 PM
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Which one is he going to sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:15 PM
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Who expects sympathy on a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:40 AM
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Do all men would get one, or just the men with a “healthy” bmi?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:39 AM
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It's kind of crazy how many women use apps like bumble bff to find female friends. Is it? What are the numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:37 AM
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In what circumstances are you running into these women??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:36 AM
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Yes, that makes a lot more sense than people opposing it because you’re completely unable to explain how this would benefit anyone… 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:28 AM
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What does that have to do with what we’re talking about? Marriage becomes an exclusive “attractive” thing… most people cannot attain. Most people are still going to move in together, have kids together, entangle their finances. They’re going to be even more likely to breakup than if they were married. How are the kids better off? How is society better off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:12 AM
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Why is a breakup of an unmarried family less atomizing than the breakup of a married family? 40% of kids in the US are born to unmarried parents already. How are they better off than kids born to married parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:03 AM
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Keeping people unmarried is a nudge against atomization…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:54 AM
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To what end? Why are the rest of us better off if a couple can’t marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 AM
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this is so common that it is something that therapists have to ask from the get go. its commonness is the thing. it is something that may have once upon a time not long ago been assumed to not be the case. And my point is that you are 100% incorrect. There is no time or context when therapists did not or would not ask about relationships from the get-go. You’re free to think that people are more isolated and overly-reliant on therapists. That doesn’t change the fact that what you are saying abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:43 PM
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Because issues in relationships are a symptom of many mental health issues, something therapists are looking for… If you say that therapists have to ask about relationships because of capitalism, it means you don’t think therapists ask about relationships to help determine whether someone has a mental illness like depression. Therapists absolutely do ask about interpersonal relationships for many reasons, including looking for signs of mental illness. If hyper-individualism and capitalism disapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:48 AM
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We’re still in the same conversation. Therapists have to ask people about their parents, families, and other relationships to figure out what problems they have. Capitalism is not why therapists have to ask these questions! When you walk in a therapist’s office, they don’t know whether you’re isolated from your family because of hyper-individualism or another reason. They have to ask either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:49 AM
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What in the world does this have to do with WHY therapists ask their patients about their interpersonal relationships? You think in less capitalist counties, therapists don’t ask about your parents or your close relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:10 PM
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You don’t think things like mental illness can have a negative impact on someone’s ability to maintain relationships with family and friends??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:53 PM
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Yes, there’s the systemic view and the individual view. Sure, most wealth inequality is due to inter-general resources. So, on the whole, broke people are broke because they didn’t come from money. But if I didn’t come from money, I can still work to become not-broke. Many people can achieve their goals with a bad personality, because of luck (in money, looks, etc). But also, many unlucky people can achieve their goals because of a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:21 PM
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Bob is financially stable because he inherited a trust fund. Joe is financially stable because he worked hard and managed his resources carefully. Henry is is lazy and reckless. Is Henry broke because he didn’t have rich parents, or because of his personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:05 PM
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among the first things a therapist asks is if you have a support network of friends and family, exactly because there is this individualist tendency, and capitalist fantasy, that you can just pay someone to do that shit for you. How did you come to the conclusion that this is the reason therapists ask about their patient’s relationships??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:43 PM
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You are ignoring two things: It is incredibly new to expect all of these “things” from a romantic relationship. People used to have extended families, churches, and other communities to rely on for these things. Then we shoved all of these things onto a single person, and guess what? That person could not replace an entire community. We’re not replacing a partner with a therapist. We’re replacing a pastor & 10 other people with a therapist. Women used to do more of these “things” in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:58 PM
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To pressure women in their 20s to lower their standards. and/or To convince themselves that dating as a man will get easier as they get older (because women will become desperate).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:40 PM
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But your math says that 94% of American men are NOT Asian. Why are you attributing an Asian woman dating a non-Asian to self-hatred instead of just basic chance? If she meets 100 random guys, almost none of them are Asian!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:15 AM
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I’m the one with the pension…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:46 PM
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I wear a seatbelt instead of avoiding being in cars. I have insurance instead of not buying a house that may burn down. Why would marriage be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:18 PM
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I think you’re conflating different things. I own my own house, live alone, make my own money, split 50/50 in relationships. AND I’m more at risk of many things than the average man in the same situation. a man can live/ sleep on street, hangout anywhere, work anywhere, do any job (even if it means working his ass off hard), sleep around etc... Homeless advocates have estimates for how long the average woman can sleep on the streets before an attempted rape. They are short. Women who “sleep arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:14 PM
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Meaning what? If you don’t want any government benefits, you can just have a ceremony.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:25 PM
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For a government pension? For social security benefits of the higher earner? NO. These are the reasons gay people campaigned for marriage. These benefits are life and death for many people, and can ONLY be obtained by getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:20 PM
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The former is a benefit of marriage, the latter is the benefit of the “1200 documents to feel comfortable marrying” that OP thinks conflicts with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:17 PM
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Marriage isn’t the barrier, your decision to prioritize your family is the barrier. Not a judgement- I think that’s a completely reasonable approach. But there are plenty of people who have similar family issues and make a different choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:08 PM
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I can want my spouse to get my government pension if I die, and want to keep that government pension if we divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:06 PM
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Women who are giving sex to the top % of men in pursuit of a relationship I think the second part is happening less than you think it is. It’s just that most connections are more sexual and short-term than ever, so women are selecting connections that will be worthwhile if that’s the case. Serious relationships aren’t the ultimate goal for a lot of women a lot of the time. And if it probably isn’t going to be serious, it makes sense to focus on people who are hot and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:29 AM
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What is the alternative to being an option??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:16 PM
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It may not be the right question. Of course, most people could do things to make themselves more attractive to potential partners. But there are major trends changing how people see dating, sex, partnership, marriage, etc. that are much bigger than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:37 PM
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I think what's going on is very obvious: women are incredibly paranoid and frequently suspect being "drugged" when in reality How do you get to frequently? The first is 36 negatives over an entire year in an ER. The last link is over a three year period for a lab that could serve all kinds of medical facilities. What math do you use to determine if that’s a lot for “women?” This is a vicious cycle, and leads to greater collective female paranoia What’s the cycle? Women go to the ER and get told …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:23 PM
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Another unsubstantiated claim! Fun! I like that it’s a new number each time. “Most men,” 90%, 80%… but what’s consistent is that they’re all made up without any data to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:59 PM
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It's not something people are polling for I'm guessing. Thanks for confirming that all your beliefs were pulled right out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:44 PM
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Feel free to share a source that says 90% of young men are single AND never have sex. But I doubt you’ll be able to. https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over “Figure 3 breaks down rates of sexlessness over the past 10 years by gender for adults aged 18-29. There have been big changes since 2020, with levels of sexual activity in 2022 reaching highs not seen for 25 years. Last year, just 12% of women and 11% of men reported not getting busy in the past year.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:41 PM
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There’s that active imagination again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:32 PM
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Whoa, am I going to be the person who tells you that sometimes people have sex without being in a committed relationship? What a big thing for you to learn! You can’t be this stupid. Someone being single the day they get a survey obviously does not mean they “never have sex,” especially when the data shows the vast majority had sex within the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:25 PM
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Not who you’re replying to, but 60%-80% of adults have herpes simplex viruses type 1. If you are saying they should only date other people with HSV-1, you are saying that the average woman should not date your hypothetical virgin guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:19 PM
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Now you’re pretending your claim was about being single and not having sex?? Maybe you can get a friend to show you how to scroll up and see what you actually wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:14 PM
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I repeated your actual words You said: most men under 30 aren't having any sex at all. I’m aware there was a lot of content that did not relate to your claim. The only data that related to your claim contradicted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:09 PM
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Again, you chose the source to provide to support your claim!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:03 PM
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This was the source you selected as backup for your claim. You thought it was a fine source when you thought it agreed with you, but now that someone actually read it, you have problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:00 PM
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Lol, how did you convince yourself of that? 🤣 You said: most men under 30 aren't having any sex at all. Your source said 70% are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:22 PM
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Dude, even you referenced a source that contradicted your own claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:33 PM
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I’m wonder if you don’t know what virgin means? This article doesn’t reference virginity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:30 PM
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So it’s a bullshit claim from your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:26 PM
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Your source explicitly disproves your claim… “Around 30 percent of young men reported in 2019 that they had no sex in the past year, compared to about 20 percent of young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:12 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:52 PM
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In 2018, over 55% of people between 25 and 34 in the US lived with a romantic partner. Second chart: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2018/11/cohabitation-is-up-marriage-is-down-for-young-adults.html That is your guy’s age group. The average guy his age didn’t get “no interest.” The average guy is not a virgin. The average guy is not someone without relationship experience. The average guy his age has lived with a romantic partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:33 PM
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Let’s say OP’s guy is 35, and would have been 29 at the time of your source. At that time, only 4.4% of men his age had never had sex. I think we can assume that some of those people lost their virginity in the next 6 years, but this guy was not one of them. And the post isn’t just about not having sex, but any romantic relationship. I’m sure some of those <4.4% had sexless relationships, but again, not our guy. He’s an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:18 PM
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I don’t believe anywhere is like that, so if he told me that, I’d suspect he was lying. If I believed it, I’d wonder why he didn’t leave until 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:34 PM
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middle aged man, say mid 30s or early 40s who hasn't had any relationships and is a virgin This is not normal or average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:12 PM
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just a normal average man who just never had any relationship or sex. Obviously not, just by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:52 PM
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But you’re using more of the same behavior to back up your theory about the behavior. The same questionable motives that can drive people to have a couples profile photo also drive people to make public posts about how “happy” they are with their partner. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-it-means-when-couples-constantly-post-about-each-other-on-instagram_n_5a8b06cfe4b00bc49f4732f6/amp https://relevantmagazine.com/life5/relationships/happy-couple-post-their-partner-less-on-social-media/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:32 AM
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Definitely not. People often put photos like that up after one person has been disloyal, pretending to be single or fully cheating. It’s both a way to ward off potential threats/hamper someone’s ability to lie about being in a relationship and a way to try to convince everyone/yourself you’re in a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:20 AM
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If you made a decision about what 4 billion people are like based on the comments on a single post in a niche Reddit sub… Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:52 PM
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Aren’t you proving the point that people can tell the difference between different kinds of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:33 PM
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when you completely destigmatize promiscuity, you’re basically saying that all relationships are equal, whether it’s a one-night stand or a long-term commitment. Why would this be true? Like, there’s no stigma against casual friends and acquaintances, but no one thinks they are equal to close friends or a best friend. Why wouldn’t people be able to distinguish between types of romantic relationships, if they’re able to do it for friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:18 AM
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And that is NOT a situation where the legal case just “fell apart.” There was new evidence that suggested the convicted persons were actually innocent of the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:34 PM
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It sounds like you’re thinking of acquittal, not exoneration.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:37 AM
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You’re proving the point though… You have active animosity towards the women who would date you. That should be a red flag!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:47 AM
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This is pretty simple. Your position: All in all, I find it hard to believe that a person that went through proper looksmaxxing would feel inferior to people around them My position: My female friends who have put the most effort into their appearance have expressed feelings of inferiority compared to others around them, more so than other women who have put less effort into their physical appearance. You’re free to think they weren’t “looksmaxxing” “properly.” You’re free to think I’m assigning…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:44 AM
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GQ, Men please brush your teeth https://www.gq.com/story/brush-your-teeth-guys CDC, “There was no significant difference in the prevalence of obesity between men and women overall or by age group.” https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm Forbes, “ Women Continue To Outpace Men In College Enrollment And Graduation” https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/women-continue-to-outpace-men-in-college-enrollment-and-graduation/# Homeownership- “ Among never married men, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:34 AM
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You can read back in our conversation if you’ve forgotten what we’re discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:26 AM
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Eh, I know what my female friends have said about themselves. Their suffering is not in my imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:16 AM
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The women I know who put the most effort into their appearance are more insecure than the women who do not. This has been consistent throughout my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:39 AM
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I want to improve women's empathy, so I will make an analogy. Why in the world would you need to make an analogy? Men are also overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:40 AM
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This is definitely contrary to what I’ve observed and experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:03 AM
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I’m aware that you heard two anecdotes a decade ago and have chosen to “see” them as evidence of your theory about 8 billion people. Noted! But men are just as out of shape as women, go to therapy less than women, pursue education less than women, don’t buy homes more than women… they don’t even make New Year’s resolutions as much as women! Men’s “need” to improve does not seem to exist in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:07 PM
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Yeah, now we’re at the part where you back up your theory, not repeat it. But it sounds like your position is that men “need” to improve… but that it has zero actual impact on their behavior. They “need” to do things women don’t need to do… and do those things at the same amount as women. It’s completely illogical to me, but I guess it’s a position you can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:45 PM
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And therefore… what?!? You’re saying things have been changing for at least 12 years. So where’s the impact? Where’s the widening divide between men and women’s self-improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:18 PM
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And these anecdotes mean what for mean and women at large? If women think they’re perfect, and men think they need to improve… there should be some actual real world impact! Where is the data?? Men consistently report higher self-esteem in studies. Why??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:47 PM
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But they are equally as overweight/obese. Men aren’t more likely to be in shape. Women are more likely to take weight-loss drugs like Ozempic. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:14 PM
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I’m literally asking you what to look at. What can I look at to see evidence that men pursue self-improvement more than women? The only specific reference you made is physical. But men are overweight/obese at the same rates as women (or worse). They join gyms at the same rates as women. All I see is evidence that doesn’t support your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:58 PM
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If it takes that much time and effort to find any evidence of your theory being true…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:50 PM
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What metrics validate this theory? Are men more likely to be members of gyms? (Spoiler: no) Are men more likely to go to college? (Spoiler: no)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:22 PM
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What in the world are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:19 PM
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Lol, you tell people they should be physically assaulted, then accuse them of wanting to fight, of being abusive, of making personal attacks…. You need to look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:18 PM
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You need to be a lot more specific about what content you are referring to. such advices and other life lessons are primarily aimed for guys And implied that women's job is to only produce and raise children According to… you? Is this only meaningful and helpful for men or what are you women understand from this life and can you relate to such things? Again, this distinction seems to exist in your imagination? There’s a massive amount of self-improvement content explicitly created for women and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:00 PM
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Yep, you’re the kind of “advocate” who is appalled when someone quotes a misuse of “autistic,” but defends their jokes about violence against women and trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:19 PM
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Again, zero suggestions TO ME. You were mad at OP, but told me I deserved to be physically assaulted for something OP said. Anyone with a shred of integrity would have apologized for that. But not you. Now you’re insulting me for not finding “value” in being told I deserve to be assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:25 PM
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I have found zero suggestions, or value, in anything you’ve said. It seems very clear that you’re upset that OP used a word, and that you’re taking it out on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:26 PM
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how you were being so missed understood I never claimed that. you didn’t answer. Because you didn’t answer me. You made statements about how I could best express my point, so you should be able to state my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:54 PM
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You’re not angry. You just want me whipped. Sure bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:50 PM
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You have made zero suggestions to me. You’ve expressed anger to me that I quoted the post. You’ve told me I could use different words to express something… but you don’t know what. No suggestions have been made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:07 AM
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Isn’t the the insertion failure rate like 18%?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:20 AM
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You don’t know, but apparently can tell me how to do it… interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:06 AM
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What was I trying to express?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:51 AM
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I should be whipped for quoting the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:09 PM
0

Of what word?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:45 PM
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as much attention from women as I did in 1 year of bartending But you aren’t saying that that “attention” translates into anything (sex, relationships). Flirting with the bartender =/= responding to a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:26 AM
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Nothing in 1995 makes it less stupid to suggest that women living off their husbands pensions prove anything about women’s financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:09 PM
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i talked with 2 woman whos men died in the war Did they get their husband’s pensions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:54 PM
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No one is being “sexist” by not doing anything to anyone. many generations of men who have not chosen to do that whether it be by personality or simple choice. Men who don’t approach women for dating are not being sexist. They are just making a choice. It’s no different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:37 PM
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How do you not see a difference between these two things?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:08 PM
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How many times have you had one in your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:32 PM
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Are you serious?? “you DIE. Your wife is not gonna remain faithful for the rest of your LIFE.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:38 PM
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Why is there so much violence against men by men? that doesn’t sound particularly friendly or kind. I can easily strike up a conversation in public with another man and they will usually react with kindness and helpfulness. They will never accuse me of being creepy or trying to take advantage in some way. Lol, men used to use the “gay panic defense” in murder trials to justify killing anyone who was potentially hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:35 PM
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This post isn’t about sex. This post is about male sexuality. That’s what I’m asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:14 PM
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But suppose you are married and you fight for your family and you die. Your wife is not gonna remain faithful for rest of your life. Uhhhhh….
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:14 PM
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Which one belongs on a sub with debate in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:19 AM
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Usual scenario a guy will make a complaint saying how dating is hard If someone is making a public post with this kind of complaint, they should be specific about what kind of response they are looking for, and include enough relevant info to get it. If you’re just venting and don’t want feedback, say that. More importantly, consider whether you’re posting in the appropriate place for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:03 PM
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Men have this autistic view of sex and relationships in which they often separate things that would better go together Is this what you’re referring to as male sexuality? Why is that beautiful or important?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:56 PM
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The majority of entertainment is about drama. Sports, super hero movies, video games…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:22 PM
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Whoa, why are you misrepresenting your source?? “are clinically depressed” The source is about ever having been diagnosed with any type of depression over a lifetime. Respondents were asked, “Has a doctor or nurse ever told you that you have depression?” and “Do you currently have or are you currently being treated for depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:18 PM
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You two are experiencing a historical anomaly. Never in the history of time have there been real numbers of children growing up so sheltered, supervised, and socially isolated. I’m not saying there weren’t kids like you before… but there were two in my high school, and they and their parents were considered incredibly weird. The kids tended to be academically competitive, and socially stunted. Now there are more kids like you than ever… but still plenty of kids who have more independence and uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:04 PM
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That perception that they don't need men is very real. And once you realize that when a women says "I don't need a man" she genuinely doesn't think she does, you understand the shift that has taken place in western societies. Strangely enough, civilization does not seem to be impacted by whether I fuck guys who make websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:17 AM
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They have personal stuff going on or thought we weren’t a match. They’re basically a stranger. It doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:22 PM
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My goal is to never date anyone who thinks these are good analogies for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:08 PM
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I DON’T KNOW. What is your problem??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:44 PM
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How would I know? There are 8 billion people on the planet, who can form a practically infinite number and types of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:36 PM
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In my experience, people who care about the relationship are already doing close to their best, so they don’t have the capacity to promise much they aren’t already doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:09 PM
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OP did not observe thousands of women apply for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:48 AM
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People who care about the relationship put effort into maintaining its quality. People who just care about ego and status are only concerned about the threat of it ending/getting dumped. People who want a relationship with the least amount of effort know that the easiest strategy is neglect the relationship, then make a lot of promises when someone threatens to break up with you (without actually changing your behavior).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:11 AM
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In my experience, it’s the least committed guys who throw the biggest hissy fits when you dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 AM
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I wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:58 AM
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You stopped supporting women because they get mental health treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:48 AM
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He literally admitted it?? She was 14 and he told his friend that Priscilla was “young enough that I can train her any way I want.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:21 AM
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The same reason that men have made a million posts about their Ryan Reynolds “man crush” and how they’re straight “except for Ryan Reynolds.” People find rich and/or talented and/or hot and/or charismatic celebrities compelling. Those celebrities could date from pretty much any demographic they choose, but they tend to choose young women. That’s why you see them date young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:15 AM
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Drake too 😬😬😬
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:10 AM
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Situationships allow people to engage in relationships without full investment meaning that each party won't get their feelings hurt Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:26 AM
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They want to be like a despicable human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:51 PM
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Why do his male fans like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:39 PM
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You think the men in the audience would what? Turn down an invitation to go backstage and meet the artists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:57 PM
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OP needs them more, because apparently it’s really triggering to find other people at a stadium concert…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:44 PM
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What observations?? Other people attended the same concert OP attended? A dozen people went backstage? How in the works could those be observations be surprising at a concert?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:40 PM
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What did he OBSERVE?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:21 PM
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What egregious choices did OP observe at this concert?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:16 PM
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Yes, let’s go easy on him because he was more focused on insulting one group of women than the others. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:12 PM
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But none of this stops women for selling out stadiums, buying overpriced merchandise, and chanting their names. None of this stops women, hot and young women, from lining up to be the 9th baby mama. Do any of these women "respect themselves"? Women who buy tickets to the concert don’t respect themselves. OP on the other hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:03 PM
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So he’s “shocked” by seeing a dozen people from the VIP section invited backstage? That’s why we should go easy on him when he insults women for doing the same thing he did?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:00 PM
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He literally suggests you look up his post and comment history, where he compares this concert to other concerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:51 PM
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What cultural environment?? A concert? You think he’s never been to a concert?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:46 PM
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What culture shock? He bought a ticket to the concert. He’s shocked by the artist he paid to see? He’s shocked that other people were also in the stadium? Or he’s shocked that a dozen people went backstage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:45 PM
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He made a post criticizing women for attending a concert that he attended. He’s made all these assumptions about women when the vast majority of them did exactly what he did. Maybe OP should be the one to lay off other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:40 PM
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I guess receiving oral sex does not a relationship make 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:12 PM
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Are you asking if the relationship itself was an accomplishment we feel proud of?? “I bagged a great guy?” Or if the relationship was with someone who made us feel good about ourselves? Through admiration, compliments, etc? Or if there were particular accomplishments in the relationship?? Giving someone a good birthday present or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:01 PM
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You went to the concert. You assumed everyone at the concert wants to fuck Future. There’s only one way this assumption even begins to make sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:46 PM
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So, my best advice to you is, listen to them Why would you advise women to listen to the small proportion of men who say things like this, instead of paying attention to the ACTIONS of the men were actually interested in spending time with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:47 PM
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Wow, if anyone was still wondering whether you could respect a “no,” you cleared that right up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:00 AM
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You’ve already asked me six comments worth of questions, some twice. I’ve answered all in good faith. You’ve responded with zero indication of understanding or reflection. No, I’m not going to answer this stupid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:47 AM
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If i could prove to you 100% that doing what i say would decrease rape Just stop. This is too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:32 AM
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I don’t think so, which is why “fixing the problem” is not the relevant standard. “No means no” is good. It is good even though some dumb fucks decide they don’t need to respect a “no” because they’ve gotten away with it in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:27 AM
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Is there any situation in which telling people something has prevented all of them from continuing to do stupid shit? What teaching has resulted in perfect practice across an entire population?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:47 AM
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Again, people believe the earth is flat. People believe stupid shit. People do stupid shit. But just as there’s a ton of “help” to support people knowing that the world is round, there’s “no means no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:44 AM
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9 and 10 show how someone relying only on their limited perceptions could develop dumb beliefs. That’s WHY we have lessons like “no means no.” That’s the actual point of teaching it. The same way I could “borrow” things without asking from a few people and have them say “that’s fine.” That could lead me to think I never need to ask permission to use anyone else’s property. Acting on that dumb belief could get me jailed or killed. That’s why we teach people to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:32 AM
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I literally just said I agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:14 AM
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9- Of course. People believe dumb shit all the time. If people believe the earth is flat, they can belief bad behavior is appropriate. 10- Of course. That’s why we teach about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:14 PM
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14- you’ve written this incorrectly, reversing what “yes” and “no” mean. Does simply telling this man that "no means no" address the underlying issues unless additional education and understanding are provided? Yes, it does. The “underlying issues” are the reason for “no means no.” It’s the same as any other teaching. “Ask before you use something of someone else’s.” The rule exists BECAUSE of the nuance of real life. A ton of people in my life would be fine with me borrowing their things. If I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:00 PM
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I don’t want to spend the rest of my life with someone barking orders at me. It’s not the same thing as spending your life with someone who makes suggestions and requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:27 PM
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From when? What does “interested” mean? Is this data from actual behavior on the site, or a survey? What does “dating pool” refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:04 PM
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Ok then, you’re welcome for the feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:27 PM
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You asked me to tell you about any issues in your writing. Were you fishing for compliments or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:15 PM
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I don’t know what you’re referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:11 PM
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Descriptively as in how well does it describe something? It was OK. It was unnecessary but not wrong, to add “some” before rapes or women, because neither of us ever implied to was all or most. This wording is obviously clunky, but possible to understand in context: “have never been in a situation where because womens no dont always mean no they would have stopped”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:04 PM
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It does not address the problem. If a man says, “sure, the woman said ‘no’ to sex with me, because I’ve decided to fuck her without consent because I don’t think she means no because of X,” X is not the problem. It dies not matter what X is. The fact that the man feels he has the right to decide when to respect a “no” is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:48 PM
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Your argument is that there are rapes occurring right now because slutshaming is the reason men don’t respect “no.” If slutshaming were gone, these men currently raping women would stop, because they would start believing women when they say “no.” Slutshaming is problem, but it’s not the problem in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:30 PM
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If in my world where women are as i prescribed when a woman said no it would always and 100% be no because there would be no cultural norms that make no ambiguous If you’re raping women who say “no,” slut-shaming isn’t the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:22 PM
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If a woman could say "want to go back to my place to fuck" it would be really useful in lowering the chances miscommunication could lead to rape. LITERALLY HOW?? This makes absolutely no sense to me. You are going to have to spell it out. Obviously any situation in which a woman consents to sex is not rape. That doesn’t stop situations where the woman *does not consent.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:01 PM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:43 PM
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No source.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:58 PM
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To be clear, “giving up market power” means sleeping with and dating men we don’t want to sleep with and date, yes? I would always choose to be single before doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:41 PM
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Verbal consent is not always required, but a verbal “no” must be respected. Non-verbal signals do not override a “no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:18 PM
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Yes, thank you for acknowledging that women have entered traditionally male fields of occupation. Hopefully you can refrain from lying about it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:58 AM
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And that point, true or not, does not change your lie. Women have entered traditionally male fiends of employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:54 AM
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I said that nursing is the only non-cushy top 10 female occupations Yes, women work uncomfortable jobs. We agree on that. Stop being fallacious ? I would like to answer without getting banned, but I don't know how Cool, good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:52 AM
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Not this point. Women have entered traditionally male fields of occupation. This is absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:45 AM
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to disprove a statistical point which is that women don't work dangerous and uncomfortable jobs You’ve already acknowledged that women work uncomfortable jobs- health care workers. I don’t need to prove that, because you’ve already conceded it. Our discussion now is about whether teaching is a cushy job. Somehow, you think teaching is a cushy job, and that it’s underpaid… but can’t explain why a cushy job should pay more than average… Somehow, you think teaching is a cushy job, but can’t explain…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:35 AM
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Majority of law degrees, majority of medical degrees, majority of pharmacists… Women have entered traditionally male fields of occupation. You’ve already had this conversation over and over and over. It is 100% false to say that women have not entered traditionally male fields of occupation. You know it’s a lie. You choose to repeat the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:29 AM
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Like, if being a teacher is so easy, why is there then a shortage of teachers, …that’s what I’m asking you. You claim that being a teacher is a cushy job. It pays more that 50% of jobs. Why wouldn’t people want that? What’s your explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:03 AM
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Which does not mean that women have not entered male-dominated fields, as you keep falsely claiming. Question: “Have women entered traditionally male fields of occupation?” Answer: “Yes.” You know the answer is yes. You’ve acknowledged the answer is yes. Then you go to different threads and repeat your lies. It’s embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:55 AM
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In the US, only 10% of divorces have alimony. How is that the default?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:31 AM
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Cushy = a good salary? I don’t think so, and you don’t either, right? If it’s genuinely a cushy job, people should want to do it more than other low-paying work, right? The median teacher salary is about the same as the median salary in the US. So, 50% of people make less that the average teacher, but they can’t recruit enough teachers. Why? Construction workers make insane money if Not sure how that’s relevant. The majority of people in construction don’t make that much money. They make less th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:24 AM
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How can it be underpaid if it’s a cushy job? The average teacher makes more than the average construction worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:16 AM
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The point is that women have had an entire century of equality and still haven't entered traditionally male fields of occupation, why? Why do you keep lying about this?? You know that women have entered previously male-dominated fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:11 PM
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In your mind, why is there a teacher shortage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:19 PM
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You think being a cleaner is a cushy job?? You think being a teacher is a cushy job??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:22 AM
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You think nursing is a cushy office job? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:47 AM
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What does this have to do with either your ignorance or your lies? Women have started working in many previously malr-dominated fields, becoming the majority of some of those fields. Other fields remain male-dominated, the same way many fields are female-dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:53 PM
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There’s a reason you didn’t answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:07 PM
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Why would a woman need an excuse not to go into a field? Do men need an excuse for not being dental hygienists?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:42 PM
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Probably with all the male dental hygienists, preschool teachers, house cleaners, and administrative assistants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:26 PM
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We’re talking 4 years of undergrad and 9 times out of 10 post graduate school. More women do this than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:09 PM
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So why haven't women then started working in male labor fields? Is this a joke? Are you not aware of all the fields that used to be male-dominated and aren’t anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:04 PM
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Good luck with it. Like I said, I’d never use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:58 PM
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I think you’re really underestimating the problem. 10% of women on dating apps report receiving threats of physical violence. This isn’t Airbnb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:38 PM
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How can that be handled with verification? If 5 guys report me as a “foodie call” because I didn’t have sex with them, what would the app verify?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:04 PM
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I thought you were trolling, but you genuinely don’t understand the difference between descriptive and prescriptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:51 PM
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This is the nature of dating strangers. I’d never use a dating app that allowed men I rejected to rate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:22 PM
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And that’s not an answer to the question. You don’t need to pretend to respond to my question if you just want to rant about sonmething unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:11 PM
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That isn’t the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:31 PM
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Tyson. I don’t fuck on the first date, but I don’t think it’s objectionable for someone to want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:18 AM
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The person who said they knew how most women would behave because of what they’ve “seen” is YOU. But you’ve followed that up with complete garbage and speculation. This is too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:10 AM
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and probably lust for him It’s incredibly weird that you keep telling me what you imagine women think as proof of what other women would do. Your imagination is not “proof” of what “most women” would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:04 AM
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Well, the number of concert tickets he’s ever sold is about 1% of the amount you just claimed paid him for photos. Let’s just guess 1% of concert-goers buys backstage passes. So that’s 0.01% of what you claimed. You’re only a few hundred million off!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:55 AM
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You’ve completely destroyed your point? You claimed you could speculate about “most women” because of what you’ve “seen.” Then you proceeded to blatantly lie about what you’ve “seen,” only to replace it with a different speculation. would debase themselves to the nth degree for a single night with the man. You’re imagining something about a group of women and then claiming that proof of how most women behave. It’s embarrassing that you still think you have a point to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:47 AM
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And neither is related to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:04 AM
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hundreds of millions of women who pay upwards of thousands of dollars for pictures of him grabbing their asses You cannot believe this. The population of the US is over 300 million people. You think the equivalent of a US population has paid Chris Brown to touch their butt on camera? If he spent one minute on each woman, and worked 24 hours a day touching butts, it would take over 600 hundred years to do what you claim. This says something alright 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:59 AM
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What in the world could you “see” that proves most women would do this??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:38 AM
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I just asked you if “men are criminals.” You said no. Now they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:35 AM
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If 100,000 criminal men don’t make men criminals, the baby mamas of Elon and Cannon don’t make women “willing to share.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:10 AM
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The generalization is about women. hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:59 AM
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Would you say “men are criminals?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:57 AM
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It’s a slippery slope to take such isolated incidents and make generalizations about a gender. Over 100,000 men are in prison in the US. What conclusion should I draw about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:54 AM
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What do you WANT from a conversation with strangers about your dating difficulties?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:40 PM
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That’s a position one can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:16 PM
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What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:13 PM
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She did not consent to a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:52 PM
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So are we on the same page that this is false? the amount of casual sex that men and women have is around the same according to the study. The study never said anything about casual sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:30 PM
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Sorry, do you imagine that study is about casual sex only? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:25 PM
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disproves that the average sexual partner for women is less than 4. If it did, what would that tell us about how much casual sex the average woman has? Nothing. Does it tell us women have casual sex more often than “rarely?” No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:21 PM
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Feel free to share a source that you find credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:01 PM
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So are they staying within their league or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:00 PM
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And you’ve posted no sources at all. Edit to add: you can also scroll down to “About NSFG” to find info about the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:57 PM
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Feel free to find any reputable study that agrees with you. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:51 PM
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Most women go for casual sex, atleast a couple of times. Yes, and doing something a few times in your life is doing it rarely. The vast majority of women have fewer than 10 sex partners. Only a portion of those are casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:46 PM
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Men stay within their league As if men are turning down sex with women above or below their league 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:21 PM
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Good luck being with her. And no one else, since it’s important to you that your partner is the most attractive person to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:16 PM
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Sounds like Megan Fox is the most attractive woman in the world to you. Are you dating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:13 PM
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I certainly did not. But if they were the cream of the crop to you, they wouldn’t be the cream of the crop that’s available to you. there would be no qualifier. The most attractive person in the world to me is Michael Fassbender. If I were dating Michael Fassbender, he’d just be the cream of the crop. Not the cream of the crop that’s available to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:06 PM
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That doesn’t sound like the most attractive person in the world. It's important that my partner is the most attractive person to me in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:46 PM
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In another thread, you said: Bro if I had the options they have, I would choose the absolute cream of the crop as well. Who are you choosing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:34 PM
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I’m sure this is the case. I’m a little on the older side, and have to admit that I’m a little jealous of women growing up now. Being a young woman in the 90s/00s was a really terrible experience. You couldn’t live a full life without enduring constant interruptions, and most of it was negging/harrassment. But it seems to me this isn’t just about hitting on people, but a decline in all in-person socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:30 PM
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Mating against your choice is “healthy.” That’s a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:24 PM
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Let’s assume men’s are accurate then. CDC says the average man has about 6 lifetime sex partners (median body count for men 24-49). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm Assuming most people are in a few relationships throughout their life, we’re talking up to 3 casual sex partners ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:13 PM
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The majorly of men I’ve gone on dates with I did not consider having sex with, casual or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:31 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:22 PM
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Your source: The median body count for women up to 49 years old is: 4.3 75% of women up to 49 years old have body counts of less than 10. This confirms what I said: Most women rarely go for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:16 PM
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I think your idea of a date may be different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:06 PM
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Yes, they do it rarely, meaning “not often” or “seldom.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:57 PM
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People rarely buy houses =/= homeownership is rare. My comment: Most women rarely go for casual sex Your source confirms it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
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Cite your sources. I’ve never seen a reputable study with averages in the double digits over a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:49 PM
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Wanting sex =/= going for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:43 PM
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Are you referring to one of the linked studies? Or the online survey they did for the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:42 PM
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more than half of young people aged 18-25 have had at least one casual sex encounter in their life. Are you saying this isn’t rare? The linked study says the lifetime casual sex partner count for young women is TWO. Less than one ever two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:25 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you. This seems like a normal part of life. I’m sure I’m not the most attractive woman my partner has been with. It has not occurred to me to care. And it’s not just about sex. Imagine you’re in a new situation and deciding which stranger to make conversation with. You’re going to pick someone who looks interesting, based on their clothes or general appearance. But years later, you’re really not going to care that your wife doesn’t wear the most attention-attracting out…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:17 PM
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The average woman does not hook up a lot. I’ve never seen a reputable study of lifetime sexual partners that hits double digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:54 PM
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Rarely would mean most women have 0, and a few have a few, and maybe the outliers would have more. Nope. Rarely means “not often” or “seldom.” I’ve been to IKEA several times. I go to IKEA about once every other year. I rarely go to IKEA. All of these statements are true. “ Several is average if not above average, that’s a lot if ur trying to say women rarely go for it at all.” There are many things the average person does rarely. Those are not in conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:46 PM
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I’m not following?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:39 PM
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Several casual interactions ever = rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:33 PM
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I’m not sure what is confusing about this. Most women rarely go for casual sex, if ever. If a woman is seeking a primarily sexual interaction, she’s going to do it with someone she’s very attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:26 PM
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Of course it does. It literally does not break the deal. You’re perfectly willing to date a single mom if you can’t find someone else. That’s a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:19 AM
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I think your confusion stems from the assumption that others think of their “dealbreakers” like preferences, as you do. I don’t date men with kids. That’s a dealbreaker for me. I’ve turned down a lot of divorced dads. I would always prefer to be single than date a single dad, or violate any of my other dealbreakers. It sounds like you value being in a relationship more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:06 AM
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Why do you pretend it’s a “hard dealbreaker,” if you’re willing to compromise on it to avoid being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:46 AM
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But if you were disfigured in a fire and not considered attractive, would you prefer to be single or date a single mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:34 AM
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In any other case, you would prefer to be single than date a single mom. A lot of people have similar feelings about their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:31 AM
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But you claim that you would NEVER date a single mom. It’s a “hard dealbreaker.” It’s easy to imagine a lot of accidents that could decrease your attractiveness to make it difficult to find a partner. But you’re claiming that there’s no situation in which you’d lower your standards. Is it not true that you’d rather be single than with a single mom? Were you just bluffing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:13 AM
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only makes you less likely to find your partner That’s a feature, not a bug. People raise their standards because they realize they’d rather be single than date someone who doesn’t meet the higher standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:43 PM
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Yeah, if you’re saying “I think we should make sure this is the baby YOU gave birth to, by making sure it matches YOUR DNA,” no one will assume you think she’s cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:32 PM
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If you think the baby was switched at birth, you can test the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:00 PM
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we can agree that they used to swipe right/find attractive You want to lump these together. I think you’re incorrect to do so, and continue to disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:23 PM
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I don’t see how men’s swiping habits are relevant to this conversation. Yes, men swipe right on almost everyone. That doesn’t say anything about women’s swiping habits or how selective women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:17 PM
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That may be the way you use swipe dating apps. It’s not how most women use swipe dating apps. Attractive men get left-swiped because of profile content (or lack thereof) frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:01 PM
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I absolutely think it would have been lower. Many Tinder profiles are empty, but most OKCupid profiles had a lot of content. Between the profile content and the question answers, OKCupid was about compatibility. That was the point of the platform. It was much easier to find big incompatibilities in potential matches. Swiping is not just about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:55 PM
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My point remains the same: Swiping isn’t just about physical attractiveness. It isn’t a “semantic” difference. There’s zero reason to think OK Cupid users would have swiped right on 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:34 PM
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There are no “swipe stats” from OK Cupid 15 years ago!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:21 PM
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Your original comment did not compare the selectiveness of women to men. You used two data points that are not equivalent to show that women have gotten more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:01 PM
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Obviously women are more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 AM
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It doesn’t matter what the majority of profiles are like if women are swiping such a small percentage. I’ve never swiped right on an empty profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:19 AM
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So, the idea is that women are “angry” that men want to use this woman for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:18 AM
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Swiping isn’t just about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:11 AM
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Has sexual skills - as evidence by the meme she created So men don’t like inexperienced low n-count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:10 AM
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In individual cases about very specific things, sure. But when it comes to men complaining about general trends How does this make sense?? Why should I care more about trends of experiences that individual experiences, if they are still not as bad as what’s happening to women? Men overwhelmingly complain about not having access to women. Women overwhelmingly complain about men doing bad things to them. Someone harming you is always worse than someone leaving you alone, at an individual level or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:42 AM
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Then I still have no idea what you’re trying to say here. I shouldn’t discount men’s complaints because I don’t discount women’s complaints, but apparently I’m still supposed to weigh men and women’s complaints based on my perception of which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:22 AM
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Just to be clear, let’s say I’m hanging out with a female friend and a male friend. Female friend complains that she’s being sexually harassed at work. Male friend complains that his coworker does not want to go out with him. You think I should give equal weight to these complaints, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:10 AM
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It's kind if arrogant to say that dating your own gender is "perfectly normal" when it quite literally goes without saying that the same is not true the other way around I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say here, or with the entire post honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:57 AM
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I lived through Donald Trumps 4am tweet rants. The only way women are more emotional than men in politics is if you pretend that most emotions are not emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:40 AM
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Can’t? We aren’t trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:18 AM
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I’ll interpret “ran by women” as “with women’s rights.” Yes, countries with women’s rights do have more women leaving marriages they entered too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:46 AM
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Almost all relationships at this age are doomed to fail. I see this scenario happening a lot especially with women 18-24 the relationship is unsustainable with that large of a looks mismatch, and is doomed to fail. For example, marriages starting when the woman is under 24 have some of the highest divorce rates. There’s zero reason to think her relationship with a 4/10 guy was “sustainable.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:35 AM
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Oh, I see where you mean, you’re asking “why do you expect the tank to be full of gas instead of water or something else?” My expectations would be around the person, not the requirements. Let’s say I had a diesel vehicle, and a random person told me they took my car to the gas station and filled it up, I would NOT expect they filled it with diesel even though the car requires diesel. Dating requirements are like having a diesel vehicle. You know what fuel it needs. You don’t necessarily think a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:59 PM
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But you had to invent the communication, which is the only thing that created the expectation. I always expect people to be and do what they SAY, because they said it, not because of my requirements. If someone says the tank is empty or full, I expect it to be so. If someone says the convertible top is up or down, I expect it to be so. That obviously has nothing to do with the requirements to operate the car. The expectations are not related to the requirements. > So if a woman has requirements,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:08 PM
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Therefore when someone says the tank is full Explain this part of the metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:29 PM
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You switch from asking about “requirements” to “expectations,” which muddies the waters. I don’t expect much from anyone I don’t know. But I’m not going to bother spending time dating unless certain standards are met. Think about any other preference: “I expect every restaurant to serve seafood” - unreasonable “I’d rather cook at home unless I’m going out for seafood” - reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:58 PM
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They are still with someone who is not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:19 PM
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If that’s the last unmarried candidate, women have never had the opportunity to vote for an unmarried president.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:19 PM
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We’re not discussing the veracity of the claim. We’re discussing whether the claim is made. You say it is not: Nobody denies that average dudes have sex. I’m saying I see that claim on this sub frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:50 PM
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Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? Men here frequently claim that average guys never have sex. Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:29 PM
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An average dude has 1-2 sexual partners in his whole life I’ve never seen a study with such a low number for the US. Nobody denies that average dudes have sex. I see that claim on this sub every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:14 PM
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hot being a -requirement- for attraction For whom? I don’t know what you’re referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:15 PM
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On a pure attraction basis, women would rather die alone than be with someone not hot. You might say, "obviously!" but that is not true Of course it’s not true. Men would rather be with a below average woman than die alone. Which has to relevance to the fact that people prefer to sleep with hot people. Women are willing to have transactional sex; trading sexual access for children, support, and security. The existence of sex workers prove that men are also willing to have transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:05 PM
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if the average man had sex with women be finds attractive it would distribute in a bell curve What data are you theoretically graphing here? What is the x axis and the y axis?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:50 PM
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So, women would rather die alone than be with someone not-hot… AND women will be with someone not-hot to have a family. Sure, that makes total sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:15 PM
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I don’t think the men who have the most sex are doing it for healthy reasons either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:05 PM
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women prefer dying alone to being with someone that isn’t hot. Whats your explanation for the majority of men having had sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:02 PM
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Where does this source address the outcomes of children in marriages “even if the parents hate each other.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 AM
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No, women who are relatively average still have incredible ease of access to sex compared to men That’s a completely different conversation. You compared men to men, and I compared women to women. In both cases, there’s an uneven distribution of sex and sex partners, with a small percentage having waaaaay more than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:22 AM
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What does this have to do with my question?? Why did you bring up presidents?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:14 AM
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And if I compared the amount of sex I had to the women who had the most sex, it would seem like nothing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:12 AM
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When was the last time a major party ran a presidential candidate who was not married?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:06 AM
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How many US presidents can you name who were single men? Even among democrats, the answer is pretty much zero! How in the world does this prove that “women”have any issue with singleness??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:26 AM
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No one thinks it’s a myth that hot people can have sex with more people! People think it’s a myth that it means that the majority of men don’t have sex, because every study says otherwise AND because it’s obviously false to anyone who has a normal social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:08 AM
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You want people to “debate” the position that people prefer having sex with hot people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:49 AM
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You haven’t seen any evidence that it’s false either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:44 AM
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If every “research” shows that, it should be easy to cite some sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:36 AM
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Why can’t half the population have any impact on society??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:10 AM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:08 PM
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Yes, and the “girlfriend experience” is a product offered by professionals, not something it’s fair to expect without reciprocation. It’s like expecting your buddy to clean your house every week for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:42 PM
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After getting over the anger phase There are some bizarre assumptions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:58 PM
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Right, so the conclusion is that fashion is not for men’s attraction, since they don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:52 PM
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I’m a woman who has dated casually and seriously. The only time I’ve had issues with men who date casually is when they have no boundaries. They didn’t want to be serious, but they wanted to act serious. They’d get cranky if I didn’t spend “enough” free time with them or prioritize them over my friends (who would still be there in the future). They’d want a lot of emotional support. They’d want me to spend time with their friends and family. But these things are investments, and they’d already t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:50 PM
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vice versa for womens fashion. What did you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:43 PM
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and that bad for your attraction with men - if you look hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:42 PM
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Wait, you think the point of women’s fashion is to communicate “money” to men??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:35 PM
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But if men were attracted to last year’s fashion, there’s no “need” for this year’s fashion. If men liked low-rise pants, I didn’t need to buy high-waisted pants when they came into fashion, if male attraction were the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:34 PM
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I agree with you. I think capitalism is the foundation of “fashion,” not male attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:26 PM
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Single women own homes at higher rates than single men!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:40 PM
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Where are their fathers in this??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:08 PM
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Dating multiple people has only been around for about a decade. It used to be that when two people liked each other enough to go out on dates that meant they would be loyal This is laughably false. In the US, there was a weird blip in the 90s when exclusivity could often be assumed, but that’s it. There was no 'talk' it was just an unspoken rule. No, even 75 years ago there was a difference between dating and “going steady.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:32 AM
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I understand what you meant. What is the reason it oscillates?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:33 PM
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If male attraction is the foundation of fashion, why would it ocillate? Why wouldn’t it just be neutral, like the colors blue and green, with neither ever being out of style?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:05 PM
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What’s the answer to the question I asked you? Or are you just deflecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:57 PM
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Fashion trends change all the time though… Are high-waisted pants attractive to men? Or are low-waisted pants attractive to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:42 PM
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I think you should use those Google skills to see if “werein” is a word…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:20 PM
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Did you intend to finish this sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:14 PM
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Not equivalent at all. The man had an opportunity to choose the labor that gave him the currency. He had the opportunity to negotiate the rate and the schedule. He wasn’t given $20 and then told to spend an hour cleaning toilets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:43 PM
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(I know you could reverse the genders here but the term "one that got away" is generally used by girls in context to men) I’ve only seen this in reverse. My female friends never talk about this, but I’ve heard a lot of guys say this or something that implies this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:26 AM
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Now you’re moving the goalpost again. We’ve already established that we are not talking about “expectations.” I don't care what people do of their own free will. So why doesn’t that apply to a man buying a woman dinner in their first date? Sometimes you’re up in arms because it’s “morally incorrect to justify benevelont sexism,” and other times you don’t care what other people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:22 PM
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Literally any dictionary definition of “equal” makes it clear that this is a stupid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:00 AM
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That’s not what you mean. He isn’t trying to “test” himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:33 AM
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To me that's a terrible argument because me being around children doesn't make me feel like i wanna abuse them. But it would give you more opportunity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:15 PM
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The original post doesn’t even say that other “moms” have an issue. It says other “parents” have an issue. OP is the one who erased the other dads from the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:01 PM
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The guy here is SAHD during summer vacations and his daughter can't get a play date as all other moms are cautious against sending their kids to him alone. Why did you change it to MOMS? The original post uses PARENTS throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:59 PM
9

I think the critical part of the definition is “unfair.” As a society, we’ve decided that people “deserve” equal access to certain things- school, jobs, eating at restaurants, staying at hotels, etc. We’ve also decided that people don’t “deserve” equal shots at other things. If a man only wants to date blonds, or a woman only wants to date tall men, we might think they would benefit from some self-reflection, but we don’t think it’s “unfair” that others don’t get to date those particular people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:57 PM
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Men are typically the ones inviting women to restaurants… Also, very weird that you seem to think every restaurant is “fine dining.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:01 AM
9

It’s a joke bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:31 PM
5

How did they convince the women to join?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:30 PM
14

You keep asking these questions with ridiculous assumptions built in. that wouldn't apply to a man, child or other type of person? Why in the world would you think there are exclusive ways that women “respect” other women??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:55 AM
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Most people generally have an idea of what they want at their point in life But unless they are ONLY to no strings attached sex, they DO NOT know if they want it from the person they’re going on a first date with. I'm fairly certain the guy who was thinking about having short term flings isn't gonna end up in a relationship often. lol, this is how a lot of relationships start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:53 AM
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can't mention your intentions from the start I don’t KNOW my intentions when I just start dating someone. That’s what the dating is for. instead of just saying whats obviously going to happen ("lets go back to my place" as opposed to "lets have sex") I’m not sure I’m going to have sex with someone until we’re in private and start messing around! If I don’t like the make out session, I don’t have sex. You’re mischaracterizing getting to know someone as manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:27 AM
9

anything that isn't being literally direct is technically a form of manipulation Dating is usually the PROCESS of finding out what kind of relationship you’d like to have with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:29 AM
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I think you’re looking at it the wrong way around. “Why do people who compulsively date a lot of questionable characters end up with kids?” The answer is pretty obvious. The same impulsive behavior leads to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:57 PM
3

Show me the study that proves a causal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:39 PM
5

Because if we flipped this and said he didn't want you to wear a specific outfit because it's too reveling for public... That’s not flipping it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:09 PM
1

But that’s not why you believe it. Why do I believe this? I’m a man myself, and I’ve unfortunately been very promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:40 PM
4

You have attachment issues, and have decided to generalize your sample of 1 to a population level. Just go to therapy bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:10 PM
24

I haven’t seen this at all. Most women I know who had an adventurous past end up partnered. There are so many guys who don’t think or care about any of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:42 PM
2

Yeah, “most of what he says” is probably normal human stuff. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:34 AM
1

For online dating, Pew research says: 11% of women under 50 have received threats of physical harm. For men it’s 4%. 37% of women under 50 have been called offensive names. For men it’s 18%. Obviously some of those threats and insults are a reaction to being rejected. But it gives us an idea of who is experiencing more cruelty. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:32 PM
1

Do you think it’s morally incorrect to offer your seat to a pregnant woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:48 PM
1

Sorry, are you saying it’s morally incorrect to buy someone dinner? Or morally incorrect to let someone buy you dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:44 PM
1

“Expect” isn’t part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:29 PM
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If you are a man going on a date with a woman, there are real world circumstances that make “benevolent sexism” rational. It is likely that: - your date is taking more of a risk than you are - your date had and has more other options - your date is younger than you (has less time to advance professionally) - your date makes less money than you, even if you’re the same age - your date puts more effort (and money) into her physical appearance Also, you’re probably not looking for a partner who bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:16 PM
1

You posted to prompt a debate about whether a new government program should be created… Everyone has worked very hard to outline all of the horrible outcomes that would come from this, in order to demonstrate why the government program should not be created. I’m sorry if this has been confusing to you? I’m not married. I don’t have a joint bank account. I have health insurance. But I actually care about other peoples’ health and wellbeing, and I oppose proposals that would make it worse, like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:26 PM
2

And I’m sure there’s some reason why you have left out any single reference to any single time in history when one spouse has successfully sued another spouse for emptying the joint account without getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:18 PM
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My position is that as a tax payer, I don’t want my government using government resources to create a new government program that would create a whole new set of problems that we can’t solve through the programs we’ve already created!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:56 PM
1

Because no divorce attorney would (need to) wrote that on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:51 PM
2

Whoa, ghost editing a comment after being responded to. That is really sad behavior. I would have been happy to discuss why I think married relationships are drastically different than unmarried relationships (and there’s plenty of data to back that up). But you are not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:48 PM
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It's fair to extrapolate marriage dynamics to LTRs, especially when you have millions participants and statistical points over decades. That makes no sense. I can’t use data about law school students to make assumptions about undergrad students just because I have a lot of data about law school students.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:41 PM
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but there are for married ones, so we should stick to those for the sake of accuracy. Don’t make a post about “partners” if you’re only open to discussing married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:22 PM
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I can afford health insurance. Through my job. But I can’t sign up for it, because I can’t get divorced. I do believe this would be good for society And you’ve provided zero reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:20 PM
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Thank you for proving my point by sending me a source about how a spouse can get recourse by consulting a DIVORCE attorney. You can get recourse in family court because you are getting DIVORCED “ The court will have the authority to review the value of all marital property prior to the divorce including the value of the joint bank accounts. The family court judge will also have the authority to divide the funds equitably.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:17 PM
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Of course it is. The reason I can’t afford health insurance is because I cannot divorce the husband who has abandoned me. If I could divorce him, I could get subsidized insurance through work, because divorce is a qualifying event. Abandonment is not. If I could divorce him, only my income would be used to price healthcare plans on the marketplace, not his. You’ve created an entire group of people who could lose benefits without warning, and be shut out from affordable paths to get coverage. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:05 PM
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There are no legal grounds to sue anyone for taking money out of an account that has their name on it, married or not. Who chose this abuser out of all available people? I don’t know what that means? If you marry someone at 25, and they get into a car crash at 55 that gives them a personality-changing traumatic brain injury, that says nothing about who you picked. It is something that could happen to anyone. External factors change people’s personalities. It’s not about “picking.” I think people…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:26 PM
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Personally, I’ve just learned to avoid dating men who share OPs philosophy, so it doesn’t really matter how much they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:55 PM
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Me: I make decent money You: If both of you make crazy money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:39 PM
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So the stats for marriages contradict your logic. I don’t think so. There are reasons that some reasons relationships end before marriage, and other reasons that some relationships end after marriage. The calculations are really different, especially when kids are involved. It’s also not the case that every breadwinner thinks they should do less housework. The guy I’m currently dating makes more than me, but is not the type to ever think that means he has less responsibility at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:37 PM
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I personally believe that the partner who brings more $ to the table gets to relax more at home. This is one of the million reasons women are more open to staying single. I make decent money. Enough to afford my own house, etc. If I date someone who makes the same amount of money as me, great. We split expenses and chores, and both have a bit more disposable income and free time. What a dream. If I date someone who makes more money than me… I’m suddenly doing more chores than I ever did when I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:14 PM
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If my hypothetical spouse dropped me from their health insurance plan, I wouldn’t be able to get health insurance through my job for almost a year, because I would have to wait for my job’s open enrollment. Getting divorced is a “qualifying event,” that allows me to add health insurance at any time. Bring dropped from my husband’s policy is not. I would have to buy health insurance on the marketplace, which I wouldn’t be able to afford. I wouldn’t get any discounts, because my husbands income wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:57 PM
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There’s no recourse for your spouse draining your life savings from the joint account except divorce. If my spouse spends all of our savings on their affair partner, in the divorce I can ask for other assets to make up for it (home equity, value from their retirement accounts, etc). If we stay married, there is no recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:43 PM
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I am asking the author of the post what they mean! Your title is about discrimination. Your post includes zero reference to discrimination. Do you really think Leo DiCaprio is discriminated against because randos make comments online??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:28 PM
0

…are you saying that’s discrimination to you??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:17 PM
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“Discrimination” meaning WHAT?? Someone having feelings? Someone posting their feelings online?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:58 AM
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Is there something that stops that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:17 PM
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This doesn't prevent physical separation from your spouse if you need to spend some time away while you're both in counseling. It also doesn’t prevent your spouse from physically leaving you entirely. You’ll just be legally bound to them. Picture your forever husband moving in with another woman. He transfers all the money from the joint accounts into accounts in his name. He stops paying the mortgage. He cancels your health insurance. He cancels your car insurance. Your phone doesn’t work, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 PM
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He literally admitted he lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:40 AM
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Disrespectful to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:50 PM
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Who says he’s on the same level? I think he’s the least worst, but just not worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:47 PM
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I’d remain single and hope something better came along. Relationships are a lot of work, and it isn’t worth it to be in the wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:22 PM
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How are you lying?? You have repeatedly said that a government organization made a statement that 74% of rape allegations are fake, even after admitting it was a lie! You have repeatedly used a journal to substantiate that lie, even though you know their source doesn’t back it up! You know that you are spreading lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:01 PM
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Yes, you admitted to lying, then used the same lie in this thread and claimed it was from articles. That’s another lie. You should really be ashamed of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:16 PM
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If you can read the news article, you know it does not say what you claim. If you can read the paper, you know it does not have a source for what you claim (because the cited source does not say it).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:10 PM
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At this point, you are being deceitful. Quote in the paper: “According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), about 74% of rape cases under Section 376 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) turn out to be fake.1” Quote in the new article the paper claims as a source: “ As per the statistics by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), about 74% of rape cases under Section 376 of the Indian Penal Code end up acquitting the accused.” We know the paper is wrong, because we can read their source directly…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:53 PM
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No it isn’t 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:45 PM
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Not a single article you’ve linked says that NCRB said that 74% of allegations are false. Please feel free to prove me wrong. Link the article, and paste the relevant quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:43 PM
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Then why are you stating that they independently verified the information?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:41 PM
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The article says goverment organisation said this No it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:36 PM
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I’m sorry, this is just so misinformed. Peter review does not mean that the editorial board independently verifies all information in a paper, much less their citations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:33 PM
1

Sure, like there up to a 100% chance you killed OJs wife. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:30 PM
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They didn't question the source and also verified the claims independently. Where.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:19 PM
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The same way OJ was acquitted of killing his wife. What kind of fantasy land are you living in? Do you think there’s enough evidence to convict criminals of every crime in a court of law?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:12 PM
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Did you actually download and read the journal paper you are referencing? The source for the data point IS A NEWS ARTICLE. You didn’t want to refer to a news article… so you referred to a paper referring to a news article.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:09 PM
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It isn't an article but a peer reviewed journal. This journal explicitly states they publish articles. There are submission guidelines for articles!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:58 PM
1

If you don’t know whether men are interchangeable with one another, you can’t have any position on whether “women” are interchangeable with “men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:46 PM
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Interchangeable? Are men interchangeable with each other? Is a gay man interchangeable with a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:34 PM
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data gathered and release by tinder themselves, backs up the 80/20 rule. Where
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:30 PM
3

What groups are you a member of that are supporting gender-neutral laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:07 PM
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So why would I believe your words, tell me? You don’t have to! But not a single thing in your comment contradicts my words. Just because feminists are not united against gender neutral laws does not mean that there are feminist groups in India supporting gender neutral laws. Like Russians are condemning invasion of ukraine so we can say not all russians are bad, right? I haven’t heard any Russians condemn the invasion of Ukraine, but I still know that 140 million people aren’t bad because of a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:35 PM
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Dude. You complain endlessly about people not being able to read because they recognize your blatant lies, now you’re upset that people didn’t answer a question you never asked! You referenced sources where the people who oppose gender neutral laws say why they oppose gender neutral laws! Maybe you should read the articles you cited. I can’t tell you why “feminists” oppose gender neutral laws because “feminists” do not, as an entire worldwide group, oppose gender neutral laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:16 PM
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What question??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:10 PM
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Because they did not say it! You lied about what they said. If I say, “OP made a post about how he pooped this morning.” It’s 100% a lie, even if you pooped.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:05 PM
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It is 100% a lie that 74% of allegations are fake “according to the NCRB.” Nothing can make that true. Because you didn’t just make up numbers, you chose to lie about what a government organization said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:59 PM
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OK? This has nothing to do with the fact that you lied in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:52 PM
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ACQUITTED DOES NOT MEAN THE ALLEGATION WAS FALSE
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:46 PM
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And where did I contradict it? Show me? I have already quoted the relevant parts of your post and the article you referenced. The NCRB did NOT say that 74% of allegations are fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:39 PM
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You blatantly lied about what a government office stated. Your own sources contradict your false statement. Sure, everyone says that I would hope so!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:33 PM
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Not the organization OP cited, that’s for sure. OP is assuming that every single charge that doesn’t lead to a conviction is a false allegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:29 PM
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So much bullshit here. You: According to NCRB, about 74 percent of rape cases reported (not under investigation as under investigation only 8% are fake) are fake. Your source: “ As per the statistics by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), about 74% of rape cases under Section 376 of the Indian Penal Code end up acquitting the accused.” These are completely different statements. Absence of conviction =/= false allegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:27 PM
7

Debate what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:46 AM
1

If it’s revenue neutral and a positive for society, why is it limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:40 AM
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Why"? For people who want to demonstrate a higher level of commitment than regular marriage. That doesn’t explain why the rest of us should reward this with a tax break.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:08 AM
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Double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:36 PM
2

You confirmed that it was a double standard. These double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:10 PM
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It’s not a double standard to start with. No one is entitled to a relationship. No one is obligated to stay in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:01 PM
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I'm 18 and I've never been in a relationship Can we assume that you’ve never had friends before? Because it’s extremely obvious that you aren’t entitled to anyone being your friend. And it’s also extremely obvious that if someone isn’t a good friend to you, that you don’t have to continue being their friend. That isn’t a double standard. There’s no conflict here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:44 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:39 PM
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if you've had 20 boyfriends at this point, and you couldn't get any of them to marry you, how do you know if you magically had a kid, that kid would like you forever? What do these have to do with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:55 PM
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But you are still 100% wrong about the definition. No other dataset is perfect either. When cops died of Covid, they were counted as “line of duty” deaths, even if there was little evidence they caught Covid at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:07 PM
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I read comment after comment on this sub from men saying they have no standards for women related to their personality. They date ANYONE who isn’t fat. When men are willing to date women they don’t like in order to get sex, of course women are going to be the ones ending these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:11 PM
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False: CDC: “ but not from accidental or incidental causes” “ Consistent with previous reports, the number of maternal deaths does not include all deaths occurring to pregnant or recently pregnant women, but only deaths with the underlying cause of death assigned to International Statistical Classification of Diseases, 10th Revisioncode numbers A34, O00–O95, and O98–O99.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:05 PM
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Men don’t have to change. Women don’t have to stay married to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:24 PM
2

That’s less than half the increase in divorce chance. How is this relevant??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:11 PM
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It’s not a Pew Research study. It’s a Pew Research article about a study they did not conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:56 PM
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Most choices are “contagious.” That’s how humans work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:35 PM
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What data suggests that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:35 PM
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doctors can test you for any life threatening problems False. Many reasons women die don’t present until childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:50 PM
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You’re twice as like to die in childbirth as you are working as a cop for a year. CDC: “The maternal mortality rate for 2021 was 32.9 deaths per 100,000 live births” Bureau of Labor statistics: “The rate of fatal workplace injuries to police officers and other law enforcement personnel averaged about 14 per 100,000 employed” It’s also significantly more deadly than car crashes. CDC: “ In 2019, the population-based motor vehicle crash death rate in the United States (11.1 per 100,000 population) …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:45 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:08 PM
4

So this is the second most easy time to get sex in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:05 PM
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At what point in history was it easier to get SEX?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:44 AM
1

Do you need someone to show you how to make a top level comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:59 PM
1

Maybe you should make a post about it instead of forcing it into irrelevant conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:20 PM
1

OK? But that’s not the question! It doesn’t sound like a single person can reference a single example of someone actively trying to open or opening a shelter for battered men and being protested by “feminists.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:14 PM
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Neighbors always oppose homeless shelters in their neighborhood. The same happened in my neighborhood, and it isn’t a men’s shelter. That’s not the same as “feminists” protesting “shelters for male victims of domestic violence”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:37 PM
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Advocate as in what? Just saying, “there should be shelters?” feminists protest and shut down the funding and establisment of shelters This is the claim we’re discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:24 PM
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Was John Brown fundamentally unable to be an abolishionist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:06 PM
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That’s a lot of faith in a Wikipedia article 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:10 PM
2

What did she have to do with shelters for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:54 AM
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Why would you provide a link that doesn’t have the answer to the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:54 AM
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You’ve got to be kidding 🤣 What do you think happens when someone immigrates legally? Every country just throws the paperwork in the trash? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/12/16/key-facts-about-recent-trends-in-global-migration/ 2000, 50.6% of international migrants were men and 49.4% were women. https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/migration Female migrants constituted 48 per cent of international migrants
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:51 AM
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What did you possibly see on this website that you interpreted to be about her doing anything to start a shelter for men??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:09 AM
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Whoa, this is what you used to generalize about worldwide immigration? Why??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:07 AM
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What did she do to create mens shelters? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:06 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:25 PM
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This is basically the progressive agenda… which is supported by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:10 PM
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There has been tons of immigration from countries in Africa, the middle east and Asia to Europe and it has been pretty much exclusively men. Why would you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:28 PM
2

We were discussing who had proposed amendments? You said MRAs, and provided a lot of irrelevant bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:34 PM
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What men’s shelter was she associated with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:32 PM
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https://www.securitywomen.org/post/u-s-congress-moves-closer-to-making-women-register-for-the-draft The sponsor: https://www.chrissyhoulahanforcongress.com/womenandgirls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:38 PM
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Because Republicans opposed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:30 PM
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Am I missing something? Which one relates to selective service?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:44 PM
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What did they DO shut it down??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:43 PM
4

Which bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:43 PM
2

That’s a feminist attack 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:42 PM
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What do you think “attack” means 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:41 PM
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I read it before I asked. Where are the feminist attacks? Why do you believe they led to his suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:24 PM
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because they kept attacking for building shelters for men Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:58 PM
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Literally not a single thing related to divorce. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:37 PM
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You are asking feminists to prevent male suicide by making divorce laws more fair. But you can’t even cite the laws! Are you just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:29 PM
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Paternity fraud Not a law. tender year doctrine Not a law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:22 PM
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make divorce laws fair Which divorce laws aren’t fair? Cite them. feminists can fight for inclusion of men in domestic violence shelters Do you think the women opening shelters for male victims of domestic violence aren’t feminists? Why? https://nypost.com/2017/10/29/these-shelters-help-male-victims-of-domestic-violence/ feminists can fight for free mental health checkup for men(and women) Haven’t feminists been supporting expanded mental health care through efforts like the mental health parity…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:15 PM
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Yep, you can’t identify a single thing that any feminist could do to prevent men’s suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:46 PM
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When men ask feminists to follow through with their promises of supporting men’s rights Give us some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:41 PM
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I think mental health services are critical to preventing men’s suicides. You’re welcome to disagree. But if you can only say what doesn’t help, and can’t say what does…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:34 PM
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So, men are incapable of suggesting solutions to men’s problems? Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:31 PM
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Hillary literally supported adding women to the draft: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-draft_n_57617765e4b09c926cfdc0a8 you need to give me more source on how she worked on preventing suicide among MEN Like what? What have non-feminists done that feminists should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:24 PM
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There’s a reason you didn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:20 PM
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refuse to actively fight against draft Aren't feminists the only ones who have proposed amendments to make selective service apply to women? cant find in themselves, the will to fight for preventing suicide in men. How do you figure? I’ve seen feminists fight harder for increased access to health care more than anyone. Remember Hillary?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:11 PM
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I think it’s a “compared to what?” question. It’s not really about whether the current situation is working, but about whether any alternative is ethical. What’s the “solution” to the current dynamic? How would it be implemented?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:06 PM
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Did not watch video, but dated a bit as a woman in my late 30s. I matched more with men younger than me, but generally not more than 5 years (but that was probably my age range setting). I think it had more to do with lifestyle compatibility in the form of not having or wanting kids. I’d rather date someone childless which is more common in younger guys, and they’d rather date someone who is older instead of someone their age with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:34 PM
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What study do you think you’re referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:47 PM
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Well, China exists even if I personally don’t know any Chinese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:56 AM
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Eh, I know a lot of people who like sex who took a year or two off of dating and sex to work on themselves/other goals. It’s pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:12 PM
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My argument is that if you barge into the coffee shop and say, “You just ordered decaf! Here are five reasons why that’s irrational!!” You’d look just as dumb as you look right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:18 PM
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Yep! The same way people express all kinds of individual personal preferences every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:05 PM
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Women say they’d rather choose the best, yes or no? I absolutely have not been hearing women say that. I hear women say they choose the bear and why. I do not hear women saying that the bear is “best.” My point is, choose the bear is not an option that seems to be chosen out of reason You’re free to choose the man!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:59 PM
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Your position is clear, but it’s a counter argument to a statement that no one is making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:36 PM
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Of course there is. There’s a huge difference between a personal individual choice and a statement about which is better. If I drink decaf coffee because of a heart condition, it’s not the same as saying decaf is “better.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:33 PM
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I think your argument is a straw man. This is what you are arguing against: The argument that a bear is a better option But I don’t hear woman saying that the bear is the better option. I hear them saying “I choose the bear.” Those are not the same things. We could argue all day about whether it’s better to get up early or stay up late. There are facts, figures, theories we could use to support our positions. But when a person says, “I’m a night owl,” it’s not an argument about what is better. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:28 PM
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But it’s definitely not this: women are sleeping exclusively with top guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:11 PM
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Considering that we live in the age of casual sex Meaning what? Gen Z is being called the prudish generation. anything bellow 95% should raise eyebrows. How do you decide? One of the theories about Gen Z is that they’re having less sex because they’re getting drunk less. Who is to say whether that drunken sex was good or bad? And there’s still a percentage of people waiting for marriage, and a new group of kids identifying as asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:45 PM
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What number should it be? People have a lot of reasons for not dating or being sexually active at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:26 PM
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Is it? Everyone used to have more sex in their twenties, but it was partly because people got married in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:14 PM
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Because nothing you said is real, and 70% of men between 20 and 30 had sex last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:20 PM
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The same reason no one does. The same reason you drive a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:24 PM
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lol, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:22 PM
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Doesn’t everyone consider risk and reward when making decisions? I’m afraid of dying in a car crash, so I wear a seatbelt and drive safely, but I still think it’s worth driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:11 PM
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But doesn’t locking your doors mean you’re afraid? By OPs logic, that means you should never invite anyone big into the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:07 PM
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*charade
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:01 PM
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Can you give any example of any group of people using the same logic in another situation? They don’t sort prisons by physical size. They sort based on past behavior (the crimes people have committed). Men I know lock their doors at night, but still invite friends who are bigger than them over to watch the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:54 PM
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Do men even know what testosterone does?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:37 PM
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It's immoral to pretend you have intentions for a woman you know you don't When does OP say he does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:31 PM
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But their other distinction was honorable: Mr Darcy wasn't a Chad though. Like, yes he was very handsome and arrogant, but was shown to be quite honorable. If Mr Darcy can’t be a Chad because he was honorable, surely Laurie can’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:36 PM
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Your problem is not that people aren't reading your post. Your problem is that people are reading your post, and they know what the word “all” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:29 PM
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Why is Laurie a Chad if Mr Darcy is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:11 PM
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In the books you referenced in this post, which characters are Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:09 PM
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OP can’t even find 4 novels from the 1800s that prove their point, but they’re sure “ some things remain universal.” Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:32 PM
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And why bother?? “Here’s my lengthy treatise on how 4 books written by women (except the ones that weren’t) have the same story (except the ones that don’t) which is universal (but I can only find in books from the 1800s). What does it imply?” Nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:18 PM
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Only ones from the 1800s though 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:12 PM
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“In all the stories, the same thing happens, except when it doesn’t” Sure, that makes sense 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:45 PM
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In all these stories, the woman falls for the 'Chad', gets hurt In Little Women?? Literally what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:35 PM
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4 novels written by women How did you fuck this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:32 PM
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Like the other paragraph where you also talk about first dates? From the very first date with a guy, most are already expecting the guy to pay for their meals and cater to them. It must be really devastating to realize that women don’t love you on the first date!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:33 AM
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Less likely to succeed at cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:23 AM
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That is not related to confidence. If you’re not acting confident with strangers, you’re sharing your insecurity and being vulnerable with them. That is emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:20 AM
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Two people fucking on a first date isn’t based on love! What a shocker!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:17 AM
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I met my partner over 40. He still isn’t 40 and easily could have dated someone younger. My friends over forty don’t have trouble finding men who are attracted to them to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:14 AM
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a loyal guy, you probably won’t find him attractive. Most likely because he doesn’t have options How could anyone know whether a man without options is loyal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:13 AM
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It’s a lie to treat a person you just met like a person you just met… that’s a take! Weird that men make friends so easily, yet report having fewer close friends than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:00 AM
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acting serious and sexually dominant Acting confident requires neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:54 AM
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There’s a reason you insulted me instead of quoting the part of the post where OP says women have no inherent value but sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:30 AM
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In my experience, men who can’t maintain emotional boundaries with strangers are always problems. If a man needs to tell women he barely knows about his insecurities to stay “authentic,” it’s not going to go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:55 AM
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Which does not include the word “I” for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:25 AM
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viewing women as basically interchangeable with no inherent value other than sex? Not in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:14 AM
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He’s deliberately choosing to act like a normal person and is calling it objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:03 AM
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Acting confident = you’re not human? What are you talking about? I act confident with all human beings I don’t know well. And I’m still myself when I do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:57 PM
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Exactly! The feelings are real, but they are feelings about your underinformed impression of a person, not the actual person!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:34 PM
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I’m getting the feeling that a lot of folks here missed the memo on how to behave with strangers. Acting confident doesn’t mean acting like someone else. It means acting like you are spending time with someone who has not yet proven that they are worthy of emotional intimacy… because that is the case! It is HONEST to treat a date like someone you barely know instead of a partner. That is who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:20 PM
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Of course it is. You should be acting noncommittal with people you just met because you should not be ready to commit to people you just met! It is NORMAL not to be really attached to someone you’ve spent a few hours with on a few dates. They are A STRANGER. Relationships are about BUILDING trust and attachment based on people’s actual personality and actions over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:13 PM
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Why the everloving fuck would it be immoral to act charming and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:58 PM
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You’re conflating two things: 1- How rare good men are (and you’ve provided zero evidence that they aren’t rare) 2- How hard someone should work to find something they’d like (and you’ve provided zero information to back up your position) There are plenty of things that would be nice to have, but are not worth the effort or risk to get. That has nothing to do with being “weak-minded” or “strong-minded.” It would be dumb to say “Sweetie, there are winning lottery tickets out there. Therefore, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:02 PM
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So for Joe, wanting a woman who's young, not fat, and has no kids is an absurdly low standard and quite literally the bare minimum. But when Joe goes on the internet and says this If Joe’s standard is absurdly low in his dating pool… why is he single and online venting about not being able to meet a woman who meets his standard? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:09 PM
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He just had to try them half a dozen times first 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:57 PM
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Sounds codependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:41 PM
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He also gained a lot of experience with women over the last 45 years (multiple wives and baby mamas) Experience =/= wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:32 PM
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I chose to ignore… what he didn’t say. I know the answer… but had to ask the answer because I don’t have two brain cells. Interesting takes!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:35 PM
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It should try harder! Because nothing worth having comes easy. That's how value is determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:53 PM
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So, not effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:49 PM
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I am asking someone a clarifying question about their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:33 PM
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You're all over the place. Either value is determined by effort, or market price. As you just demonstrated, they aren’t the same, so it can’t be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:10 PM
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Sounds like things of value do come easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:48 PM
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Where does OP “admit” any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:15 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:02 AM
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Who is this message for? You want women to “acknowledge” declining fertility, but also say: women actually know these things. This is why you hear women accuse men of "wasting their time" This isn’t exactly some secret. wait until you see how bad it can be at 45 when many people already have kids and you'll have to deal with baby mama drama. In my experience, this is when men start aging out of baby mama drama. Plenty of 45 year-olds have kids in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:50 AM
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A lot of the couple problems are really not hard work at all. It just requires one to be an adult. You just provided a ton of examples where ONE person was an adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:03 AM
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How do you figure? I could work really hard at digging a hole in my backyard. Why is my big pit valuable? I could spend two hours getting my hair dyed blond, and become more attractive to most men. Why wouldn’t that be valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:28 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:56 AM
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Not “meaningful” in what way? And why would a standard need to be meaningful in that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:54 AM
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“Disliking” meaning what? Not dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:41 AM
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When do you ask women about n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:21 AM
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Then why are they on the apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:29 AM
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it's up to each individual if it's a deal breaker. It matters not whether it's a week, 1 year or 30+ years. How could that possibly be confusing? Because you literally said it’s asinine to consider it when deciding whether to be in a relationship! Either follow offered advice or not. The advice to talk about life goals as early as possible, or the advice that retirement isn’t an issue for relationships until a few years before retirement 🤪 my guess is you've been with him long enough I was never…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:04 PM
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NOT AND NEVER should a REASON to start or make a decision for a relationship. ANY time during the relationship if it becomes obvious the two aren't aligning for that couple it's up to them to decide if it's a deal breaker Except at the start apparently 🤣 Explain it to me. Week 1, I’m not allowed to say no to a relationship because of financial goals. Week ?, I am allowed to dump them because of financial goals. When does the transition happen? Your side stepping your own situation. You’ve got to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:32 PM
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Bro! YOU are the one saying that people should be looking for compatible partners but NOT talking about financial goals. Now YOU are saying that financial goals are compatibility and that people should have “already had that discussion.” You can’t have it both ways. If it’s reasonable to divorce over something 10 or 30 years in, it’s not asinine to talk about it before you get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:13 PM
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Paint the picture for me. My husband refuses to save for retirement. I put money in a 401k. Your plan is that we talk about this… at 62? If you marry a compatible partner, those discussions need to happen and if by chance your goals do not align then by all means walk away. So, we married “compatible” partners, then figured out our goals aren’t aligned… so we “walk away” at 62?? That’s the recommendation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:44 PM
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That’s not a shotgun approach bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:35 PM
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Your talking retirement, that shouldn't be an issue unless you’re within a few years of retirement. Lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:34 PM
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The bottom 60% of guys get barely any matches and it’s usually a terrible option So it’s beneficial for 40% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:23 PM
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How are finances not an issue of compatibility? If I want to save for retirement, and my partner doesn’t… what does our life look like at 70 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:21 PM
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As online dating is only beneficial for the top 5% of men What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:16 PM
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His post literally says that men lead with sex using the shotgun approach, which means indiscriminately! Now he’s acting like they pick and choose 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:13 PM
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You said there’s only one kind of guy: leads with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:04 PM
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Match in what sense? If a man makes $33k, is his financematch a woman who makes $33k? Or is his financematch a woman who makes $25k (the median for single women’s income where $33k is the median for single men) Is the match the same, or the equivalent percentile?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:42 PM
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Men lead with sex via the shot-gun approach because again it’s the most optimal play for them. if the 25+ men you go on a date with lead with sex, it’s entirely on you for picking these men Men lead with sex? Or only some of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:10 PM
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The black guy who got fired from Tesla won 3.2 million dollars. He literally WAS NOT FIRED!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:27 PM
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Only 10-12% of US employees are in a union. Less than most countries, especially developed countries. You really do not know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:16 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:06 PM
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They are also working remotely at home. You obviously think this means “not busy,” which is extremely weird on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:02 PM
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And no, most of them weren't busy either. Most of them had one or both spouses working at home to watch the kids and a lot of the dirtiest rooms didn't even have kids or a spouse. You’re talking about people watching kids while working full time jobs not being busy? That’s the claim here? 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:47 PM
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In your mind, the top 5% of men are currently available because women haven’t asked them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:47 PM
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Men are seen as thirsty because their behavior reflects the actual truth that random sex provides more benefit to men and less risk to men. Men are more likely to enjoy and orgasm from sex with randos. Men are less likely to get STDs or harmed during sex with randos. Men pursue sex with randos. This is rational behavior. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:45 PM
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wouldn’t making men wait weed out the ones who are just looking for something quick? The concern I expressed was about men who waste years of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:21 PM
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And men in general would be less thirsty, as women currently are, because it would be easier for them to be validated by sex How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:19 PM
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But we both agree on the subject being debated, right? You think the “issues of modern dating” are cause by testosterone and women’s options. So neither of us think women making the first move solves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:58 PM
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I’m not sure why you’d be the one who needs convincing. OP is asking women to change their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:38 PM
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They guy who courted you endlessly Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:33 PM
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Many men tolerate relationships with women they don't like because those women are the only options they had in years You’re proving my point. If I ask a guy out, he may say yes and date me for years, even though he doesn’t like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:26 PM
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Many men will tolerate a relationship with a women they do not even like if it was easy to get. Healthy women aren’t afraid of being rejected by men, they’re (rightly) afraid of NOT being rejected. They’re afraid of someone wasting years of their life when they don’t love them and aren’t committed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:01 PM
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I’m a woman who goes 50/50, and I think there are valid points here. There are men who seek out partners who are younger than them (which usually translates into broke) and who are done up (which means spending their discretionary funds on makeup, clothes, etc), then they complain about having to pay for dinner. Bro, what did you expect? It’s like wanting to date a woman who wears heels, but making her walk from the parking lot with you instead of dropping her off at the door. I’m happy to pay 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:46 PM
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It’s so pathetic that you hijacked my comment to rant about something you’re sick of other people saying and couldn’t even pretend to say a single relevant or constructive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:07 PM
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Tell me about a man at the bottom of the social hierarchy, using the parameters of the post (“I mean your status in your social circle, not in all of society”).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:27 PM
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Of course? Is this your first day having a conversation? If someone brings up dumplings, I can say something about Chinese dumplings without knowing for sure whether they were just referencing Chinese dumplings. Maybe they were talking about perogies too! It doesn’t mean that Chinese dumplings aren’t dumplings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:46 AM
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Sure, so is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:12 AM
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You’re just saying men are cheaters but not making a value judgement…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:59 PM
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I don’t know exactly what OP meant and never claimed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:44 PM
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Regardless, I don’t think OP was exclusively alluding to men who have literally 0 friends This is the straw man argument. I never once said he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:54 PM
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Is this a joke? 15% of men report having no friends. This is not a rare condition. The equivalent make height would be above 5’6” It’s ridiculous to say you’re referencing “the bottom”…. Except for the bottom 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:32 PM
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A strawman? In what way? Why would a guy with no friends be higher in social status than than a guy with 4 friends? Do you think a guy with 4 friends is lower than a guy with 0 friend just because they play video games??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:07 PM
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You can’t even be bothered to say what you mean by atomization…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:48 PM
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To be clear, you are disagreeing with the premise that “top men” dating (or swiping, or having sex with) “below their league” gives women inflated standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:37 PM
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That is how I personally rank social hierarchy in terms of one’s personal social circle. People without friends or partners are at the bottom. Who do you think is at the bottom? Who is below people who are friendless and partner-less?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:31 PM
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Tell me about a man at the bottom of the social hierarchy, using the parameters of the post (“I mean your status in your social circle, not in all of society”).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:10 PM
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What is not clear is what that has to do with other people saying that men are single because they are friendless. You accused me of making that assumption when I did not. I asked you to explain where I made that assumption, and you deflected. You accused me of saying something I did not say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:47 PM
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What does this have to do with the thing “other people say” that you’ve projected onto this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:34 PM
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How? I thought you were disagreeing with my assumption that someone at the bottom of the social hierarchy had no friends (which I stand by). What assumption do you imagine that I made and where did I make it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:28 PM
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What does that have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:20 PM
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An easy way out of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:16 PM
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I’m responding to a description in the post: A quiet, introverted, awkward guy at the bottom of the social hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:13 PM
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Women can comment all day about why they prefer to date men with social lives. But it isn’t going to answer your question. Because we have absolutely no clue why men care so little! Dating men who are completely reliant on me for 100% of their social connection is a complete nightmare for me. It’s an impossible burden that makes my world smaller and smaller until I end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:37 PM
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are dating apps designed to suck in general or are men's in particular at fault for being bad? Both? A lot of men’s profiles suck on a fundamental level. I’m not talking about not being able to make yourself look good, but just the ability to present oneself at all. I swiped left soooo many times because I had no idea what the person looked like. (I know women do this too, but men swipe right anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️) A lot of men behave in ways that turn women away from the apps. There are a small amount o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:55 PM
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Slack as in they aren’t as present or supportive? Or slack as in they have secret credit card debt or are cheating? There’s a difference between a rough patch and a betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:46 AM
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What about it? They get interest from 80% of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:57 PM
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Why don’t the top men hold any cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:02 PM
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I thought the reason men “gas up mids” is because of their biological urge to have sex with more women? Men are going to do what they have to do to get laid, even if it’s feigning interest. It’s an incredibly strong biological impulse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:31 PM
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Perfect comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:10 PM
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What difference does that make? I’m biologically predisposed to perceive fatty and sugary food as nutritious. A donut being unhealthy doesn’t change the fact that my desires are a matter of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:08 PM
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But it’s women’s options that make them delusional? Now you’re saying women’s delusions make the options?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:02 PM
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Why don’t you think women’s attraction changing in response to options is biological? There are obvious reasons why that would be an evolutionary advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:58 PM
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You’re free to disagree with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:33 PM
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not serial swiping on every girl just to get laid then their standards and dating market would return to normal. In other words, men are the problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:24 PM
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say they want traits in a man they actually don't want Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:49 PM
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say they want traits in a man they actually don't want Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:49 PM
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If 40% is a lot of people, certainly 70% is. Of course that means 40% are, which is a lot of people What percent of men should have had sex in the last year? I’ve had very good reasons for going without sex some years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:20 PM
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About half of kids are born out of wedlock. About half of marriages end in divorce. The idea that women are or should trade their childbirth for a husband is not rooted in reality. Men get married because they want to be married. Men in high demand (money, tall, educated) get married and stay married more than other men. Because they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:09 PM
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I’m saying I did not respond to a post about rich guys, did not make a comment about rich guys, and have nothing to say about rich guys at this time. If you would like to have a convo about rich guys, which it seems you desperately do, I suggest you start one and hope people join you! I wish you the best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:42 PM
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Integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:59 PM
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I’m never going to agree that financially secure = rich, so I think we’re done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:57 PM
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If you think the answer to the post’s question is “rich guys,” perhaps you should post a top level comment saying as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:46 PM
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Exactly, not a thing about rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:30 PM
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The question was if a lot of guys are single because the rich guys are scooping up all the girls Not in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:08 PM
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So ~70% percent of young men had sex in the last year… which is very different than your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:57 PM
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How is that the point? Men with higher incomes are the more likely to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:39 PM
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Link the Pew surevey that says that most young men haven’t had sex in the past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:16 PM
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Brought to you by the gender that commits 95% of murders…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:05 PM
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It’s a pretty common manipulation tactic: Trauma dumping to artificially escalate perception of emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:01 PM
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The vast majority of people marry partners of a similar economic and educational status. The vast majority of men are open to having sex with a lot of women that aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:56 AM
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Tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:31 AM
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In what sense is the cult “feminist?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:44 AM
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Of course most are concerned with affordability, education, and standards. That is not mutually exclusive with sexism being a problem for women and impacting their decisions. I’m going to trust what I’ve learned from actual Koreans and Korean sources instead of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:04 AM
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Cool beans. My boyfriend is Korean and I have friends in Korea. I don’t think that makes me an expert, but I guess that qualifies me as an expert to you. It’s not about whether 4B is popular or well-known anywhere. But it is about the sexist expectations of women in relationships that influence 4B and millions of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:12 AM
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I think there’s a misalignment of standards and perceived entitlements. Some men think they deserve one kind of lady. But they’ll actually date almost any kind of lady. And it makes them mad. They’re not going to enforce their beliefs by leaving the fat frumpy women alone… they’re just going to be shitty partners and bitch about the injustice to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:05 AM
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But like, anyone who finished a single article about the 4B movement would get to the part where woman say why they’re doing it… (it’s not because it’s a feminist country) Being totally ignorant is one thing, but this is… special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:54 AM
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That’s definitely a thought a person could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:25 AM
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Men are lying to fat women about men wanting to date them… so that they can keep dating them… 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:19 AM
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You haven’t accidentally overheard a specific kind of private conversation that one woman might have with another woman… and that’s how you know it doesn’t happen… OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:15 AM
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…literally why??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:08 AM
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How could you see it if it’s private?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:03 AM
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Wow, you don’t know grants, taxes, OR debt works. Fascinating. I guess I won’t count the cost of public education against you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:01 AM
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You’re saying that men on PurplePill bitching about how easy it is for fat women to date are doing so to appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:00 AM
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Oh for sure, definitely a balanced budget and no debt for future generations to pay off! But I guess the rest of us will just have to shoulder that burden for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:57 AM
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Wait… do you think feminine and feminist are the same thing??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 AM
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The technology and internet you’re using right now… I wonder who paid for the research? You are a leech.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:53 AM
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Every day on this sub men scream about how fat women have great dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:50 AM
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Why would anyone think that South Korea will become a feminist country?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:47 AM
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I’d encourage you to look at this guys comments and see how little he’s paying in taxes… hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:39 AM
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The air you breathe is not toxic because of government-funded programs. The food you eat is inspected. The water you drink is heavily subsidized. Your electricity probably relies on government funded dams or power plants. Any medication you take was informed by government sponsored research and regulated. Any time you send or receive mail, you’re getting a handout. $3000 is nothing, and you are a drain on the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:37 AM
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Are you joking? You said that anyone who benefits from government-funded is “receiving taxes.” Literally everyone benefits from government-funded programs more than you pay in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:20 AM
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You get grants though, so you receive more taxes than you pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:06 AM
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Most people aren’t criticized for having standards, but for declaring them in inappropriate situations. There are just almost no situations in which there’s a good reason to announce your standards. You don’t have to say your standards to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:59 PM
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So just bullshitting then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:34 PM
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Sure, sure, with the imaginary “grants”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:31 PM
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You say that women are overpaid but only men pay taxes?? How do you imagine this works? Do you think there’s a separate tax for for ladies? Is it pink? This is too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:21 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me? None of these are grants. Edit to add: At this point, I’m going to assume you don’t understand what grants are, or that you’re just bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:51 PM
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OK? What grants are they though? And what grants are given to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:46 PM
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I’m not familiar with any grants given to all women, or female home purchasers. What are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:41 PM
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“Work out” meaning what? What’s your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:36 PM
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But you just said that the act of cheating doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:27 PM
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You want to marry women you’re angry at and distrustful of? Or do you disagree with that part of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:19 PM
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Tell me where I can get a grant for having a same-sex roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:18 PM
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What does arranged marriage have to do with respect? I know people in arranged marriages who treat each other respectfully, and others who do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:55 PM
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So, it doesn’t matter whether a woman actually feels that way, just that she treats him as if she does to his face?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:50 PM
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It’s truly a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:44 PM
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Respect defined as what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:41 PM
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I dismissed you because your comment was completely irrelevant to the conversation you chose to join. Which you apparently didn’t read or understand. What a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:24 PM
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What does this have to do with the post or my comments? Why should I care? Tell me how this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:18 PM
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Cool, maybe men in India would shave their legs to get women. Why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:57 PM
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There’s also a big correlation with the onset of perimenopause and menopause. Like, yeah people are going to seek out mood stabilizing medications when they’re on a hormonal rollercoaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:40 PM
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Why are single older women on more antidepressants than the rest of the population? https://www.npwomenshealthcare.com/older-women-use-the-most-antidepressants-survey-finds/ Your source does not include a single reference to the relationship status of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:37 PM
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That’s not the discussion, so it’s not relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:20 PM
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The data says otherwise. But let’s say you’re right… How is that relevant to my perception of what MEN would do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:04 PM
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Your source has absolutely zero information about childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:44 PM
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Most single guys actually would You’re free to believe this. I do not. Less that 30% of men get even the MINIMUM amount of exercise recommended by the Dept of Health and Human Services. And that’s just to stay alive, not look hot. The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:24 PM
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The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:18 PM
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need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that yo get him “Need to” for what purpose?? need to ask themsemselves if they're okay with that. I shave my legs partially to appeal to men. I asked myself if men would go that to attract women. I think not. What now? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:13 PM
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How can you be both liberated and want to be provided for so extravagantly? It’s liberation because they both get the choice whether to be in this kind of relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:08 PM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:31 PM
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Give us a single metric that demonstrates how successful Republican areas are at caring for each other. Do red states have lower rates of infant mortality or child food insecurity? How is their “community oriented” nature paying off?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:10 PM
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Single women have more friends and social connections than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:04 PM
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The majority of young women are currently in committed relationships and marry by the age of 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:50 PM
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start travelling/moving around the world etc. Single women are more likely to own homes than single men. no concern for building, maintaining, or serving their own community and country. Single women volunteer at much higher rates than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:15 PM
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I have female friends who travel with their female friends and have a lot of fun. But you’re saying this is a waste of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:57 PM
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So these women never have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:52 PM
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But the claim we’re discussing here is whether women have delusional standards for casual sex. Yes or No?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:48 PM
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But the claim we’re discussing here is whether women have delusional standards for casual sex. Yes or No?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:48 PM
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But the claim we’re discussing here is whether women have delusional standards for casual sex. Yes or No?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:47 PM
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You just said women don’t struggle to have sex with Chads. Now you’re saying Chads won’t have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:21 PM
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What is the delusion?? How can it be delusional if it’s completely acheiveable??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:12 PM
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Then why are you calling their standards for casual sex delusional?? Many of them do have delusional standards, particularly online and when it comes to casual sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:08 PM
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mens groups being far and few between and not offering sufficient privacy You specifically say that you didn’t even bother to Google mens groups before posting? So why are you talking trash about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:06 PM
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What makes them delusional standards? You think it’s hard to have casual sex with tall guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:58 PM
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OK? None of that changes the fact that you have NEVER MET HIM and he has NEVER MADE FUN OF YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:51 PM
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…for measuring the level to which different media impact genders? How would it be? I’m not following. Let’s say we both know that you eat candy and I eat less candy than you. But that doesn’t tell us how that candy harms us, because maybe I have diabetes. I know women use social media 12% more than men =/= I know how much women and men are harmed by social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:40 PM
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Same type of dude =/= the person You’re seriously equating some guy you’ve never met to a few people you knew in high school because he has a particular hobby??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:28 PM
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And that addresses neither of my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:22 PM
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the person who made fun of people who liked the sport is now dating someone who likes the sport. Who are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:20 PM
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This is the best comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:15 PM
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Based on what? How are you measuring these levels? And why would it matter? If women are negatively affected by social media, and men are negatively affected by porn AND social media, neither porn or social media need to negatively affect men to the “same level” to have a devastating affect cumulatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:10 PM
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It’s bizarre to watch all of this news coverage of abortion bans having devastating impacts on individual women and access to health care for all affected women… and then think women want liberal partners because of social media programming. We just want to live bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 PM
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This is one of the weirdest mind tricks that Reddit users try to play on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:47 PM
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Are we pretending men don’t use social media or just that they aren’t affected by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:44 PM
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Mentally strong, never has breakdowns or is lost, you cant corner him in a situation where he is "stressed" or depressed. It’s great that you’ve managed to pull this off for 5 years of adulthood… but I’m a lot older than you, and don’t know anyone who has. Not because of personal weakness, but because that’s the nature of life. If you’re not stressed or depressed when your kid is in the hospital or your spouse has cancer, you’re not human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:18 PM
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Why don’t you ask the people pressuring you why they’re pressuring you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:28 AM
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Various points of data Cite them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:11 AM
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Completely depends on his personality. The majority of men have gotten married and/or had kids by his age. What’s his romantic history? Did he always have these goals, or are they new? What’s his social life like? Is he able to maintain other relationships, like friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:45 PM
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So then it’s obviously completely dishonest to make statements about every waking moment of other people. Is this just complete solipsism on your part?? “I feel invisible and am not having the sex I want so therefore it never happens?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:36 PM
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No. You said average guys spend EVERY WAKING MOMENT invisible to women unless he’s perfect. EVERY MOMENT. The majority of men GET MARRIED = you are a lying liar who lies. You had 8 years of visible moments = you are a lying liar who lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:25 PM
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Yeah, my crazy bias for thinking married guys aren’t invisible to women and that guys actively having sex aren’t practically involuntarily celebrate 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:18 PM
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Of course you wouldn’t. You lied about your experiences because you believe that your actual problems don’t deserve sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:12 PM
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At this point, I can’t tell whether you’re even aware of how full of shit you are. But rest assured, I’ve learned a lot about your male experience. You value your partners so little that you’ll pretend they don’t exist if it means getting the smallest amount of sympathy or leverage in a conversation with a complete stranger. You look at these women who have shared their bodies and lives with you, and you round them down to “practically” zero. You “might as well” have had nothing. You come across…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:16 PM
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But you are specifically practically NOT that. You have sex and could have more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:06 PM
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sex doesnt really matter. YOU. BROUGHT. IT. UP. No one asked you to pretend to be involuntarily celibate. Feel free to explain why you did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:02 PM
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average men spend every waking moment being invisible This guy: Was married for 8 years Had multiple other relationships Has an FWB Brags about the women he’s rejected That’s not invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:59 PM
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Yeah, the only thing holding you back is the sex you’re having 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:57 PM
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Lol, frame you?? Yeah, I tricked you into pretending to be an incel right after bragging about fucking your FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:52 PM
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Being fulfilled with women Im actually attracted to is a different topic which is what I was talking about in this post. Thanks for finally being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:49 PM
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Men are invisible to women, but you married your dream girl, have had other relationships, have a FWB, and brag about the women you’ve rejected because of your standards. You’re basically an incel, but have sex. You live a life of quiet desperation, but your life is fine. No lies detected. It’s so weird that women don’t understand the male experience!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:44 PM
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Today: Dude Im basically invisible now. I might as well be an incel crying in moms basement. 9 Days ago: im watching a movie tonight with my fwb after work and afterwards some sexy time. my life is just fine i’M nOt lYiNG!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:23 PM
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You complain about women not understanding the male experience… then proceed to lie to women about the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:10 PM
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Lol, telling me that men are invisible to women and then telling me you spent 8 years married to your dream girl?? You are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:04 PM
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Why would it do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:01 PM
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What’s your motivation to lie and exageratte things being worse than they actually are? Surely you realize that once we realize you’re lying, we’re less understanding and empathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:58 PM
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Wow, I’m disputing a bullshit claim that you actually made, and your retort is to criticize a claim that I did not make. If you equate getting married to being invisible to women, that’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:48 PM
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Again, you are telling me that your personal experience is the EXACT opposite of what you just claimed! You were NOT the maximum amount of human, and spent 8 years with your dream girl, and had a string of other relationships. Now you ARE the maximum amount of human, and are “basically invisible.” Are you listening to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:37 PM
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Your metric wasn’t “not the same.” Your metric was every waking moment invisible unless they are maximum of amount human. It’s your choice to spout bullshit that’s disproven by your own lived experience! Don’t get mad at me for noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:31 PM
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The average man has sex and gets married by 30. I don’t think they are all the “maximum amount of human they can be.” The majority of men don’t even brush their teeth twice a day…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:15 PM
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Possibly, but it would require a lot of terrible sex and failed attempts n the process, and a lot of safety concerns. the implicit permission to threaten the standards of normative behavior are working for her. Not really. Men are just more likely to actually get enjoyment from the activities that would be proposed. Almost no women would have an orgasm watching strangers have sex on a car in the woods, so there’s very little reason go consent to participate. Men aren’t saying yes out of charity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:13 PM
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The results were garbage, and plenty of people said as much. He claimed to have “dates,” but no one even invited him anywhere. They were just convos.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:36 PM
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“Have sex with another man” is not promiscuous!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:02 PM
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women would date shorter weaker pasty men who have never seen the inside of a gym If a woman isn’t attracted to these men, why date at all? Even if he did get violent you are more likely to fight him off than a 6ft line backer. Most women murdered by a partner were murdered using a weapon, about half with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:05 PM
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Oh no! You didn’t find it compelling?!? Thanks for letting us know!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:52 AM
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Am I an outlier? I doubt it. Plus I know so many badass women who are just like me. I’m in a similar spot, and am also surrounded by similar women. But it’s worth noting that it is statistically rare to be healthy, educated, financially independent, and childless at your (and my) age. There are plenty of us… but we’re still lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:45 AM
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If there are going to be endless posts claiming that “post-wall” women are miserable, there’s room for posts by “post-wall” women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:41 AM
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Then why do they find it so hard to not be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:07 PM
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But not so easy or beneficial that we should talk about men doing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:02 PM
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Why would that be a reason for women not to be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:01 PM
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Fraud is still illegal even when you’re married. A woman who forges her husbands signature or uses cards in his name without permission is still committing a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:48 PM
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It doesn’t seem to be much of a turnoff for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:29 PM
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Most women aren’t that interested in dating total strangers. The risk/reward ratio is too skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:33 PM
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The women I know tend to become less affectionate and adoring because they’ve been emotionally hurt or disrespected in the relationship, not because of the guy’s physicality. You have to be one more independent if you determine you can’t really count on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:04 PM
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The vast majority of abused kids are abused by their own parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:52 AM
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Guess what all these men have in common: Divorce. Women aren't loyal in their heart, they're going to dump you as soon as they can find someone better. Russell Bramd decided to divorce his wife and told her by text message. Ben Stiller is literally not divorced! Tiger Woods cheated with on his wife repeatedly. Edit to add: Usher filed for divorce just months after his wife gave birth, which caused such complications that his wife was in a brief coma. Talk about weakest and darkest times…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:24 AM
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“Success rates” meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:50 AM
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Why do you keep moving the goalpost? Your post isn’t about what’s “an issue.” Your post isn’t about bans. Your post is about whether it’s as bad as intentionally spreading disease. If premarital sex is as bad as intentionally spreading disease, so is kissing. If you kissed anyone before marriage, you are as bad as anyone who has had sex before marriage. You don’t get bonus points for just risking spreading face herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:49 AM
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What? Having sex before marriage is as bad as intentionally spreading disease. (!) Kissing before marriage is as bad as intentionally spreading disease… unless one of you has given the other a magic piece of jewelry. This is too dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:41 AM
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How I’m “applying the definition?” What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:37 AM
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What? Why is it less bad to give someone herpes on their face??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:34 AM
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Are you joking? Of course it does not. Pre literally means BEFORE. That’s why affairs aren’t premarital affairs. They are extramarital affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:29 AM
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An issue? That’s not the discussion here. Do you believe kissing anyone before marriage is “as bad as purposely spreading disease?” Have you ever kissed anyone outside of marriage? Did your mother kiss your father before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:27 AM
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Swingers basically may as well just be hook ups. And? Your post is about before and after marriage. polyamory rarely translated to actual marriage Polyamory =/= polygamy. You seem really ignorant about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:24 AM
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You’ve never heard of swingers or polyamory?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:19 AM
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You agree with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:18 AM
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And premarital kissing? Cold sores are herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:59 AM
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Are you confused about the different definitions of entitled? You can google Miriam-Webster and see them both. A good test of whether you feel entitled as in the synonym for spoiled, is when you think you should get privileges that you don’t think other people should get. Do you think all people deserve the access to clean water? If yes, you believe that clean water is something everyone is entitled to have. Do you believe that you deserve clean water, but that other people do not? If so, YOU ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:50 AM
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You stated the challenge was to get “dates.” Then you said “interested in seeing Abbey.” You are the only person trying to move the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:53 PM
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I’m saying it’s dishonest to claim you accomplished something you absolutely did not accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:48 PM
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I just went through the first four, and none of them have times or locations?? These are not dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:44 PM
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Does that mean I hold the reigns of power?!?! Sweet!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:54 PM
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A small contingent of women took the reigns of power… which actually means that a lot of mostly men are in power but say they believe that women have human rights? Give me a break dude. Most people believe that black people have human rights. At no point in history did a small contingent of black civil rights leaders “take the reigns of power.” The first point does not in any way indicate the second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:40 PM
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You said a small contingent of women took the reigns of power. You are not describing a small contingent of women taking the reigns of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:27 PM
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then took the reigns of power What are you talking about? Specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:16 PM
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What would be entitlement if not the belief that it’s OK to violate the human rights of others because they won’t have sex with you? You are proving the accusation of entitlement 100% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:07 PM
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However, if a man who's unattractive expresses frustration that is so hard to find a women these days Expresses frustration to whom? For what purpose? 50% of the population is male. Are you saying that MEN respond to dating frustration by saying, “male entitlement” and “misogyny?” Or are you saying that 50% of the population is understanding and empathetic, but you need it from women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:20 PM
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However, the same logic doesn't apply to relationships with women. Women often remember the men who did the least for them. It doesn’t apply to any interpersonal relationships. If men didn’t care about women who didn’t put in effort, you wouldn’t have had any reason to make this post! You’re literally talking about men who bought CARS for women, and then saying women are the ones who like people who don’t put in effort. But we’re not the ones buying cars for people who don’t like us…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:33 PM
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I think there’s a generation of women who saw their moms try to go 50/50, and ended up doing everything. My mom was the bigger earner, and did the majority of the housework, cooking, and kid duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I have dick on tap Are women denying that it’s easy to find men who will fuck them? You can go to Two X and see women talk about how men with fuck anything that moves. This is not something that people deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:25 PM
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All men want is for women to acknowledge Why? The reason women have needed men to acknowledge their privilege is to make sure laws and policies don’t exclude women from succeeding in public spheres of life. An example is ensuring that women don’t get fired when they are pregnant. Are there laws and policy changes you are lobbying for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:21 PM
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My impression from friends is that women spend a lot of time on dating sites in frustrating conversations. This leads them to get burned out and leave the apps. I’ve learned to unmatch quickly and often. It meant I had more patience to stay online and find a good match. I think that men looking for more serious connections would benefit from women unmatching more, because they’d stay on apps longer instead of getting turned off by men continuing to send them gross messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:48 AM
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Jane Austen died in 1817. Where would you expect men direct their complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:59 PM
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I read Jane Eyre in school and a bit of Fifty shades of grey. I read summary of pride and prejudice and even a book report by a classmate on that. I noticed a pattern, all males had one thing in common tall, handsome and rich. In the only book you claim to have read, the guy was specifically described as NOT TALL (“neither tall nor graceful”). Pride and Prejudice is full of men who are not tall, not handsome, or not rich. You picked three books, all by a British authors, two published in the ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:27 PM
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