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I don't watch TV. Women have 3-8x stronger in-group preference than men. We all know women are the more social sex and have their own gossiping network that they try to keep between them. It's not the 1800s anymore, men have a clue these days. The Bechdel test is not indicative of good or bad writing. It was invented by a woman who isn't into men. Numerous films that fail the test are written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:36 PM
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If you don't think they love their partners, that's fine. You are an anonymous stranger on the internet, there is no way I could prove it. However, I know what I've seen around me, so I'm going to respect real life over whatever you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:58 PM
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I'm not saying it's right, I can only comment on the reality of what I see around me. The idea that "A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships" is OP's opinion and not accurate for all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:46 PM
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They get hurt every time they get cheated on. I think that if there was no love, then they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:33 PM
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I don't think that's true, since I personally know examples of women who accept precisely this type of relationship and have accepted it for years. If a man is high-status enough, he gets away with it. Don't get me wrong, the woman does suffer and age terribly. But she still accepts it because men with status are rare. Maybe I can't show you the people I know in real life, but here's an example you can look up: Sykkuno.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:18 PM
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Men who avoid prostitution generally do it out of a sense of morality and/or to avoid legal issues. It's also not exactly enjoyable to have sex with someone who doesn't like you. None of these factors have anything to do with bragging rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:16 AM
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Idk, it seems like those men are losers. I genuinely do not care if a woman wants to be independent. Instead of whining, I can find another woman who wants the same things that I want. No-one, whether male or female, is irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:43 PM
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I don't think that all women necessarily are fit for relationships. But it's common knowledge that women use their partners to compete with their friends, and being single gives you nothing to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:19 PM
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Firstly, I said that there is a demographic that women should target, not one to avoid. Secondly, you are being disingenuous since everyone knows how to use ChatGPT. Nice try, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:25 PM
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It is leaching. A stay at home mother gets the benefits while she is in the relationship. When it's over, she should make her own money. The reason 70% of divorces are initiated by women probably starts with the fact that women are incentivized to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:54 PM
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I can't actually talk about that, but any AI chatbot would give you the statistics. As far as sexual harassment rates, I'm not sure we actually know that since men probably report these things less often than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:10 PM
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It’s better to look at his dating history, check him in the register, and be actively aware of the signs of abuse rather than base it purely on demographics. If hypothetically there were a female demographic that were 5-10x less likely to divorce me, I would stick to dating that demographic forever and learn to like it. If you choose to ignore the risk because you like someone, that is a choice. I've certainly done it myself because someone was hot enough. You can’t do much about sexual harassme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:40 PM
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It is actually possible to remove these risks, or minimize them by carefully vetting who you date. There are male demographics that are more likely to be violent, and male demographics that are equally as violent as women. However, in terms of statistics, women actually don't prioritize safety as much as other factors when choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:16 PM

The problem is that the transaction is unbalanced and skewed. A woman, even if she has an unattractive face only needs to go to the gym and have a reasonable sense of fashion to land a man. A man has to have clout, which most people are not born with and takes 10+ years of effort and luck. Plus, he can lose it if he messes up. Being kind and going to the gym offer predictable results, so they are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:54 AM

Who said it was encouraged? I don't encourage intimacy for everyone. Many people have their lives destroyed in this pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:55 PM

Having romantic experiences is part of living a full life. Even if it's not ideal, I will still do things I don't want to do in order to enjoy the good parts. I'm sure women feel the same way about going to the gym, although those expectations are way easier to fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:29 PM

Having men who only want sex from women ignore women is pretty much the dream. Nah, I don't buy it. Every single romantic experience I've had involved sex long before there was any mention of commitment. In several cases, they straight-up did not want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:02 PM

How are you supposed to have a healthy understanding of intimacy, when the truth of intimacy is unhealthy? It's all transactional and based on power, it's not some fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:37 PM

How does it change anything if men who only want to use womens bodies for sex are off the market? Women willingly have sex with men like that all the time. The implication that women aren't interested in casual sex is completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:11 PM
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This is ignoring the existence of evolutionary psychology. Humans have studied other animal species who have similar mating patterns to us and observed exactly the same patterns that we display. You think that humans are special in some way, but they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:09 AM
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Women bought the book 150 million times. That's equal to half the population of the US. Nothing you can say about that? Anyway, anyone can look around them and see who gets dates. Reproduction is based off of millions of years of evolution. It's not based off of what feels fair or logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:21 PM
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That proves my point. Christian Grey is based on what real women are attracted to. The books were best sellers across the globe. Anyway, you say that's not true. Okay, where is your Youtube with 1 million followers? Are you on a popular TV show? Do tell how you achieved your status so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:09 PM
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A man can have none of those things and still have multiple options that match their criteria. All men need to be successful with women is a position of status. You may think they're lucky, but not really. Women's standards for men are way harsher. Attaining that level of status is harder than going to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:45 PM
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Physical attractiveness and fitness are obviously very important to men. If someone wants children then fertility would be important. Age isn't a universal factor. Other things I've heard involve avoiding women who have partied or slept around excessively. It's basically a male ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:20 PM

There are no updates on this subject. The term was renamed to "Advanced Maternal Age" because the original term was deemed offensive. The increased risk for complications remains exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:01 PM

Usually you'd want to date a man for several years before even considering marriage or pregnancy. At 25, there are only a few chances left. Other women who advocate for partying and messing around at this age are not actually speaking in your best interest. It's more of a rebellion against traditional values, while ignoring reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:28 PM
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The majority of men do not have the luxury of choice. For the men who do, they already have very high standards. Most women can't get their commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:02 PM

A pregnancy over the age of 35 has been historically referred to as a "geriatric pregnancy" because it increases the risk for birth defects. So if you really want children, you probably don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:58 PM
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The energy that it takes is exhausting, especially if you have a job. Levels of exhaustion where you're randomly dry heaving throughout the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:37 PM
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The common phrase is looks, money, status. If men don't have looks, they compensate with money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:27 PM
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There is a difference between knowing something and being able to achieve results. There are many football coaches who were never great football players, but they're still respected for their depth of knowledge. In addition - If women are hypergamous, it would mean that even if all men upped their game, nothing would change. Let's say that genetic engineering means that all men are now a minimum of 6' tall. The bar for an attractive man now becomes 6'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:45 PM
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Men are able to look around them and see which men are getting dates. Based on what they observe in other people, they can form advice that may be useful. In my experience, men are more willing to plainly state what they see around them, rather than to filter it through the lens of what feels good to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:35 PM
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That sounds like astrology and nothing to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:49 PM
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It's above the average. Anyway, it's obvious that the higher the number, the less special it becomes. It also increases your risk for STDs. You can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:49 PM
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It's not to be taken literally. If the number is above 15 then that's enough, really. The average number of lifetime sex partners in the US is 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:44 PM
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Of course, everyone loves chaste women. Women love experienced men, but those men are more likely to cheat, to have a rotation of women, or to leave after a year. There's no such thing as a "special" woman if you've had a thousand women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:53 PM
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Women and men who are chaste should stick with each other. Women and men who engage in casual sex should stick with each other. For long-term relationships and marriage, chastity leads to better outcomes. If your goal is LTRs and marriage, abstain from casual sex. If you have not abstained, you're already in the second category. Your LTR prospects are men who have been ran-through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:34 PM

I don't agree with it, but I also don't believe that any advice could help that situation. It's as meaningless as going to a gambling addict and offering them advice. The problem requires more work than that. I do believe that people can learn from their mistakes, but if you're still stuck on "all men are pigs" then you haven't even acknowledged that you have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:30 PM
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So, it really has nothing to do with dicks. It's about running through multiple partners, and this goes both ways. You can't expect someone who runs through partners to be good LTR material, they get bored too quickly and their brains are wired for pursuing short-term pleasure. Women who chase ran-through men and expect them to commit are equally foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:14 PM

People with high body counts should stay with their ilk. That's the only way it ever works. A lot of those men won't stick around. It's not ideal, but those are the consequences of pursuing short-term pleasure over long-term gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:46 PM

It's not a problem at all if women abstain from casual sex. There are plenty of men willing to wait as long as the woman did not already give herself away for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:10 PM
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Women do not ignore icks for attractive men. A woman can flip on a dime based on how the man behaves. For instance, take your Jeremy Meeks and have him send a fangirl 5 texts in a row, that will destroy his chances immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:42 AM

Actually, they are. Women are attracted to men who are highly successful, that's obvious. What many men are experiencing is what it feels like to not be successful enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:35 AM

Not really, it has barely any effect on the study. If women "poked" fewer men, it means they did not find >80% of men attract enough to reach out to them, which is the point. Anyway, you can see the actual distribution here, which proves that women not only are less likely to "poke" men, but they also find the majority of men straight-up UGLY, not just below average. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QMD8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:00 PM

If anything, the data given by OkCupid is even more accurate than anything you can get in a study, because they are presenting recorded data from unperturbed human behavior (e.g. statistics). Meanwhile, studies on this subject would rely on surveys, in which humans often lie or misrepresent their actual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:33 PM
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Women are less likely to do that. They are, just in a different way. Most women want a relationship with a hot guy, but they settle for a situationship with the hot guy. In both cases, you're accepting an unhealthy situation because it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:44 PM
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The statistics are based on what people say they do, not what they actually do. It's plainly obvious that if you ask women a sensitive question like this and guarantee full anonymity, they're still more likely to lie about it -- whether to feel better about themselves, or to say "ok, but that hookup was just oral so it doesn't count."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:55 PM

It's not really within control, is it? It's as much of a decision as "just go homeless" is if you don't want to work - Doesn't seem like much of a choice. An argument could be made for "capitalism is the only system that works," but is the current state of dating really the only system that works? It would seem that other countries with different systems have higher birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:20 PM

I do accomplish those things, and I do talk about unfair it is. In fact, there is a huge market in talking about it. Mostly the question is -- Is it even worth the effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:12 PM

That is basically a complete 100% lifestyle change for some men - years of work and discomfort doing things that you don't want to do. All women have to do is go to the gym. Technically most men are capable, but it's not close to being easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:07 PM

Cherry-picking edge cases doesn't disprove the general rule. Most things that are difficult will yield better results than most things that are easy. Besides, the downsides are apparent: She will compare you to her past partners and can be more difficult to please She might have STDs A woman with many past partners has a track record of chasing short-term gratification, which might increase risk for cheating She might get bored of her partners quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:43 PM
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No, it’s related to the amount of effort they have to put in. Just being a good person doesn’t get you laid to begin with - That is how men end up friendzoned or beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:22 PM
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The concept of a woman relying on a man to survive is the definition of patriarchy. You can’t be a feminist and support SAHM, it’s impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:34 PM
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The concept of SAHM is pretty much obsolete in 2025. Feminists call it patriarchic and controlling. Men don’t want to pay for a womanchild AND an actual child. It’s unrealistic unless you bag a rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:06 PM
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I do not care about the mentality, I care about the downstream effects. The mentality is rooted in biology and cannot be changed anymore than you can change the wind, but downstream effects can be changed. For instance, there are multiple countries where women are drafted. And for prison sentences, it's easy to imagine an AI-assisted system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:04 PM
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I don't know, it's not a big deal to read words. Things that actually affect men like being drafted into war or getting longer prison sentences for the same crime are more offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:27 AM
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There it is. You redpill types will always obsess over women cheating but give a pass to men. Actually, I would rather someone break up instead of cheating. But you can't seriously be arguing that a sexless relationship is desirable for anyone. What is the point? Even when the data isnt self reports, men were still found to cheat more. Nope. It's impossible to gather any data that isn't self-reports. What are you going to do, track them with a GPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:23 PM

Do you mean to say that 50 Shades of Grey, about an abusive wealthy entrepreneur, did not top the top-selling books around the world and was not translated into 52 languages? Or Twilight, a romance about a dangerous and mysterious vampire, which sold over 160 million copies, on the NYT best seller list for over 235 weeks, with translations into 49 different languages? Or the serial killers who receive countless love letters, and got married and had kids while in prison? My friend... You've got n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:36 PM
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Those statistics can only be based on who was willing to be honest about it. Furthermore, when men cheat, it's usually because their wives won't have sex with them. To be fair, there is no point in a relationship where you want it and your partner doesn't. That's worse than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:56 PM
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It's pretty funny how women project their own sick mentality around sex onto men. For many men, sex and romantic love are not separable, but for women they can easily compartmentalize a random fling and return back home to their husband and act like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:31 PM

If sex is too risky, why are there so many cases of women flocking to bad buys, drug dealers, and gangsters who end up abandoning their children? Let alone the sexual fantasies about werewolves or abusive billionaires on the bookshelves of Barnes & Noble. I figured that people would be past the point of lying about this by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:16 PM

Women often want sex equally as much as the man, if not more. In that case, they aren't quite satisfied with hugs or friendship either. So this argument that men are some kind of fiends for wanting normal sexual relationships is really about your own personal hangups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:45 PM
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Many women seem to have both more sex, and sex with questionable men that is less safe, meets their emotional and other needs less, etc. I have also found this to be the case. At a place I frequent, I have seen horny women decide to go home with SOMEONE, even if it wasn't the person they originally wanted. I've also seen women who've fucked multiple guys from their social circle and never commit to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:23 AM
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It's not supposed to make sense, because you cannot make comparisons between sexual orientation and attractiveness. A straight man's disinterest in another man isn't because the other man isn't hot enough, it's due to the fact that he is not attracted to men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:02 AM
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Women want to have sex with most men As much as you want to have sex with most men—which is not a lot. It's a bunk argument, because this would indicate that straight women want to have sex with hot women as much as men want to have sex with hot women—which is a lot. It would be better to use fat women as an example, but OP can't do that because fat women still get dates. So the truth is that we're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:58 PM
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It's the same as when women in relationships lust after male pop stars and celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:32 PM
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making conversation means i’ve been on a date before?? No, the point is that he was joking and not being completely serious. if 70% of divorces are initiated by women then seems like men are pretty bad at choosing women who won’t divorce them Maybe it's more accurate to say that they did choose the best women and 70% is the best case scenario. This is just how women are. That's why it's all about avoiding marriage these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:53 PM
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There are many reasons he might have said that, including but not limited to flirting and making conversation. Anyway, 70% of divorces are initiated by women, and some men simply don't care if she has a past or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:38 PM
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The worry comes from their subconscious instincts. Most of the time it’s justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:20 PM
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Nothing to do with her appearance, it's the expression she's making. And yes, men can tell. Everyone knows what kinds of things models have to do to get famous in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:15 PM
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The look in Sweeney's eyes is just fucked. You can tell she has done unimaginable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:56 PM
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Serial killers can get laid, but 1/3 of men can't. Let alone having women taking the initiative and reaching out to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:22 PM
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Nah, that is just sensationalism. If you take 5 seconds to look into the story, you'll know that it wasn't taken down by the app store, it was taken down by the guy who created the app in under 24 hours because he is unwilling or unable to ban malicious users. Anyway, your post has nothing to do with the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 PM
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That's a nice try, but the first sentence in the Tea app description is: "Are we dating the same guy?" So, since you weaseled your way out of the question, I guess you wouldn't find it acceptable. And in response to your second claim? No, there have not been male-only versions of the Tea app. Men aren't sick enough to doxx the person they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:55 PM
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If men created an app where they post their gf's full name and photograph, and ask other men if she's dating them, would you have an issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:43 PM

Look, I don't give a shit what you do, just don't be surprised if you get the same thing in return. Now that everyone knows how much the Tea app users weigh, it's on the internet forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:36 PM
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Use apps and subs to warn women about abusive men and red flags. Doxxing people isn't what they meant by "picking better." It shouldn't be that hard to identify if your boyfriend is dating multiple women without needing to doxx them on the internet. Understanding perfectly that the guy in the video is a red flag. The guy in that video has no trouble with women. He's on TV which is a green flag in terms of what women actually value. Okay, then I’ll keep my legs until we make it official and he pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:01 PM
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No, not really. The United States was founded on classical liberal principles (limited government, private property, free market, laissez-faire economics.. sound familiar?) The state of dating has only recently become completely repulsive once social media and dating apps became popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:01 PM
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The bare basics which no one can argue with are that sperm are plentiful and eggs are scarce, which sets up the entire playing field. When you look around you and you wonder why men are drafted to war while women aren't, or why traditional gender roles exist, or why women receive most of the money in alimony, it all comes back to the same principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:56 PM
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They get treated better and find it easier to make friends without endless barriers. This is completely biological and subconscious, not something you have control over. There is no “why” other than the fact that we are born this way and not some other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:42 PM
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It's not because of something special that they're doing. It's because women are treated as more valuable by default, so they are more easily able to form social ties with men and other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:28 PM
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That doesn’t seem to be it, since most of the time couples have a lot of sex at the start and then it dies off when the woman stops wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:57 PM
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You’re supposed to want your partner to have sex with you So that begs the question why there are so many dead bedrooms, and why nagging would be necessary at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:58 PM
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No one wants to be nagged into taking out the trash, either. Everyone hates naggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:50 PM
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So, if a woman nags a man and it's the man's fault for not listening, wouldn't it be equally appropriate if a man nags a woman and it's her fault for not listening?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:14 PM
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Don't you think it's strange how nagging is always one-sided? It's never the man who makes demands of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:42 PM
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It doesn't change anything if she rejects 90% of men who come up to her. All you've accomplished is boosting her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:41 PM
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https://i.postimg.cc/jS1Yd9Q0/hmmm.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:01 AM
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Definitely not. Men also are getting artificial gfs, so we don’t have to deal with mind games anymore. Freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:20 PM
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A lot of men would hate to need help opening a pickle jar, yet here we are. Two counterparts of a shit sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:07 PM
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When did OP imply that a woman has to commit to one wealthy man for the rest of her life? I didn't quite catch that. Anyway, it's obvious that my point has been made, you're stubbornly argument semantics. You can go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:18 PM
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Actually, there are many businesses who handle one wealthy client at a time, so you really didn't add anything new to the discussion. So again, it comes down to how you view yourself. Are you a can of Coke that anyone can buy at the store, or a hand-built luxury guitar that's produced once every 3 years? I never made a judgment call.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:44 PM
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Nah, you forgot to mention the obvious. It’s not enough for a man to be in a hobby or social group, you have to actually hold high status, e.g. be a teacher or competitor. This is easily years of work. Most women in these groups are complete beginners, but they all shoot their shot at the instructors. Then they get surprised when they're all sharing the same man and can't get a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:30 PM
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Businesses can run either way. Some businesses deal with very few rich clients and some deal with millions of clients who give them $1 each. It really comes down to how you view yourself as a product.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:41 PM

I haven't seen anyone defend rape, assault, or pedophilia. I can agree with everything else though. It is true that many men don't really like women that much, simply because women put them through so much shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:54 AM
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I think it's not only resources, but social status as well. That's pretty much all there is to it. Men who have resources and social status get dates, men who don't get nothing. And before you say that's sexist, I'll freely admit that men only date women who are physically attractive, and a good personality is mostly icing on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:56 PM
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Women continue to date up even when they have higher incomes. It's just what women are hardwired to do. This is why their own options become more and more limited as they continue to earn more money than men. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7435487/Marriage-rates-declining-economically-attractive-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:41 PM
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That's why the men at the top choose not to commit. It's literally not worth the effort and emotional risk, on top of what they already had to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:36 PM

what fucking adult women do you surround yourself with who bully men they don’t find attractive? I'm going to let anyone reading offer their input. But I can say It's a very common experience among less attractive men where he would interact with a woman and she would look horrified, or physically shrivel up and recoil in an extremely rude manner. women aren’t only valued for being in shape. you can’t change your facial features Losing body fat and gaining muscle does affect your facial features…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:20 AM

There definitely were bullies in high school, no one in high school has a fully developed brain. As an adult I have never bullied a fat girl, I just treat them well even if I would never date them. I can't say the same for adult women. And yeah, women are valued for how they look. But it's far, far easier to get into shape than it is to gain social status. I have lifted weights for 14 years. Maintaining the habit was never hard because you're always rewarded with an enhanced mood. What's hard is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:43 AM

It's hard for me to have sympathy, having seen how women treat less attractive men with visible disgust and revulsion. Anyway, you don't have to change what you say just because someone else can insult you. Have a thicker skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:32 AM
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This is exactly the same as when they say all incels need to take a shower. Women always assume that men who can't get laid are dirty, or have a bad haircut, or are misogynistic, or otherwise deserve it in some way, and never believe that some people are born with shit luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:56 AM
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Right. Of course the only exception is the highest status man in the free world who brags about grabbing them by the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:34 AM

There are no different kinds of women. That's like saying that some men don't care about a woman's beauty. No, all of them care, they just are willing to lower their standards if they can't get the most beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:31 AM
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Social status has nothing to do with whether or not a man will tell people about your asshole. There's no correlation between the two at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 AM

This is now the thread where women virtue signal about how they don't care about fame, while their behaviors in real life show exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:26 AM
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Thank you! A lot of women who can’t get their man to commit need to hear this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:01 PM

If Leonardo DiCaprio is a disgusting freak, what does that make any of us? I think that if women in their prime are throwing themselves at you, saying no would be extremely ungrateful. As evidenced by your own post, there are countless upstanding men who were given no such opportunity. Besides... You don't know how he treated them, or if they were happy. No one ever asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:33 AM

That would be stripping women's autonomy. If women have the right to reject men, then they also have the right to choose older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:01 AM

I would only accept this if you were to replace "men" with "women above 30" and still felt fine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:00 AM
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Many who do actually share their experiences face a lot of backlash - shaming, blaming, not being believed There are so many ways I could go with this. If a woman calls the cops on a man and says she was raped, that man is 100% going in handcuffs. This will not happen if a man calls the police on another man. Women for whatever reason choose to post about their experiences on social media, when they should be talking to a lawyer. There actually are women who have admitted to making up false accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:54 PM
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A lot of guys do get sexually abused as kids. They avoid talking about it because there’s no support like there is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:41 PM
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If everyone were gay, no problems would exist because no one would exist. There wouldn't be any children. Without life, you can't have any problems. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:20 PM
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Of course not, because women need men to solve those problems for them. But I'm sorry, all the men are gay now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:16 PM
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That's true, and all of the women who hate on men should just go lesbian. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:29 AM
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He didn't approach any of them. None. Imagine just having woman after woman falling into your lap, that's the reality. But sure, 5'10" is fine, you just have to actually put in effort. And you never know if the woman you're courting gave it away to one of those guys for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:28 PM
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These guys post their experiences of dating on the internet all the time. For example, this guy who had 40 live-in relationships (Dexter_P_Winterhouse on Reddit). His dating advice is "let women make the first move." Lol, completely separate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:59 PM
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Of course, some people are born into power, but there are plenty of hierarchies which don't require that. Think of martial arts where the black belts are at the top, all they did was train for 10 years. Meanwhile, there are plenty of Silicon Valley engineers making $300k who give women the ick. They're still taking orders from other people. Doctors making $300k don't have that effect, because they're giving patients orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:50 PM
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Power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:45 PM
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a good portion of women are dating the same guys Always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:36 PM

The best way to be attractive is to be 6'5". Then women ask you out and you don't have to do anything. Otherwise, you're gonna have to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:34 PM
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Dating advice is generally about offering platitudes to make you feel better. Actual truthful advice is not pleasant to hear, because most of the people who succeed simply chose the right parents and put in zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:46 PM

It’s not possible to engage with an unclear argument. Write a better post next time and you’ll get better replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:11 PM

You haven’t said anything of value ever since I called out your poor writing skills. Don’t get mad, just get better at writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:33 PM
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What a zinger. You have a future as the next female comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:39 PM
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That's true, but women don't seem to feel that way when men check out their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:19 PM
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It’s way better to operate under the assumption that your partner has undesirable characteristics, than to believe that they are the exception and be disappointed later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:13 PM
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Haha, nice try. The issue here is your writing, my comprehension is flawless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:03 PM
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Your post talks about women having low self-respect and not high enough standards, and then you proceed to talk about a woman who's dating a man who is not college educated, etc. And how she is "paying the price dearly for it." Basically you're being extremely sloppy while trying to express your ideas, and then blaming it on other people for misunderstanding your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:22 PM
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I've had this experience more than once. Basically acting like they like you, but they're really in the city temporarily and are leaving the next week. It would be great if the expectations were clear upfront, then I wouldn't have any problems with it. The reason women complain is because they punish men who make expectations clear upfront, and reward men who lie about it. Of course, it's not so easy to tell when someone is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:04 PM
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It’s kind of crazy that you would imply that being college educated, taller, making more money than her, and being in good physical shape are indicators that a man would make a good father. A lot of men have all of those things but don’t like kids at all. Can’t you think of traits that aren’t related to superficial characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:23 PM
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Fit men would generally prefer women with muscle over any of the alternatives. There’s a massive niche on YouTube where men watch female volleyball players, pole vaulters, long jumpers perform (for the plot obviously). Just don't use steroids and it's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:36 PM
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There are a few who I liked, but I still wouldn't seriously date. Since I am athletic myself, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to date someone who doesn't take care of themselves. Exercise and diet are basic self-respect, just like hygiene. Old/ugly aren't a problem as long as they're fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:41 AM

Tell me how you would like me to fuck off, and I’ll be happy to do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:47 PM

I think it’s fine for people to date who they want, but don’t complain if the man you chose turns out to be a problem. You chose him over 100 normal guys who would never act that way. The traits women love (aggression, social dominance) are often at odds with kindness and morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:01 PM
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That's funny because women often treat sex as a bartering tool themselves. For instance, girl A and girl B are both at a party with a guy. Girl B happens to be extremely horny and virtually shaking. Girl A is not but she offers to leave with the guy anyway because she is afraid girl B will have sex with him first. This is a true story...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:58 AM
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Nothing. Men with dropped libidos typically have low testosterone and experience depression, anhedonia, fatigue (which are typically addressed with TRT). Sex drive is one's life force.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:07 PM
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Women's ideal partner would be a man who is competitive and aggressive, but also nice and moral. However, these traits are very rarely seen in the same person, and given the choice they will always prioritize the former over the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:15 PM
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They only do that when there's no sex or the woman let herself go, or both. We get it, women aren't sex machines, but zero sex implies that you aren't even partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:40 PM

I go to those often and there's the same hierarchy as there is anywhere. There are people who run the place and people who walk in off the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:39 AM
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The reason why it’s so talked about with women is because getting women to chase you is extremely uncommon as a man. It really says something when serial killers get that much attention. Meanwhile, men will chase any woman who is hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:30 PM
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“Wrong place/time” has nothing to do with women who write love letters to known serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:23 PM
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I am sure it is so comforting for women to know that the man who has raped and killed 13 women doesn’t HATE women! He just loves raping and killing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:12 PM
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You might want to click the link I posted. These are guys who raped and killed upwards of 15 women, chosen more or less at random. And you mean to say that women feel safer around serial killers than internet posters? This argument is getting completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:53 PM
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There’s often a psychological draw, prison relationships feel “safe” because they’re distant. There’s no real intimacy or rejection to fear, just control and idealization. That is simply not true. Firstly, there's the obvious fact that the act of writing letters to someone would be turning a fantasy into a reality. Most humans are content with enjoying fiction, they don't go out into the real world and try to make it real. Secondly - It's well-documented that women would sit waiting for hours to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:50 PM
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It's pretty clear that popularity and social value are the most important factors in attracting women, and morality or safety are far down the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:50 PM
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It's not that deep (lol). Most men have seen.... videos, on this subject, and they can see exactly where women stand on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:18 PM
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Someone who is in very good shape who doesn't engage in casual sex would be nice, although this reduces the options to almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:06 PM

It’s easy. Give the billionaire a job at McDonalds for a few months and they’ll gain a sense of empathy. For women - maybe ya’ll can try playing the man and planning dates for other women, or joining a dance class and playing the man’s role (I know women who have done the latter, and they are far better people than the majority of women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:03 PM

No one said they were, dude. Have you heard of metaphors? Women have more power than men in dating. That is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:47 PM
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True. Tbh I tried to date promiscuous women, but the feeling of physical revulsion is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:04 PM

When it comes down to billionaires oppressing the poor, the Reddit-approved view is that the billionaires suck, but when it comes down to the dating marketplace, the poor must pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:59 PM
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I agree with that, although having this preference severely reduces your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 PM
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This thread is specifically referring to “every time there is a conversation about men dating younger women,” so it would be appropriate to mention what happens every time an older woman dates a younger man (Nothing!)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:05 PM
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Bringing in sex offenders is a strawman. 50-year old men dating 23-year old women is what OP is talking about and the way people shame Leonardo DiCaprio on Reddit is a prime example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:56 PM
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It's a thing on Reddit that Leonardo DiCaprio is a scumbag for dating 23-year olds. There is no thing on Reddit where a 50-year old woman is shamed for serially dating 23-year old men, it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:51 PM
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Obviously, everyone is talking about people who are of legal age. No one is talking about sex offenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:49 PM
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Yes of course, when an older women dates a younger guy it's fine, but when an older guy dates a younger woman it's predation. Women are helpless and weak, the outdated gender norms strike again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:43 PM
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I don't see the point of that. It's a money pit. You will just get horny again after an hour. You could argue that a gf would be the same. But they won't charge $300 per session, it's more like $300 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:33 AM
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No one is intimidated. The real issue is that women tend to date up, so dating a women who is above your level is risky, and they are harder to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:40 AM

That is not really related to what I said because I have personally walked away from casual sex multiple times when I felt it was too early. In 2 cases the women did have sex with another person that same night, one of the gents being a man who has a girlfriend in the same social circle. I wouldn't say any of them were picky or guarded, they were really just horny on that particular night and looking for the right man at the right time. Actually, the problem is lack of self-restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:28 PM
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Bold of you to assume that either of those things bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:59 PM

Everything in my experience has led to the understanding that a man has to try to fuck as soon as possible, and decide on a relationship later. The idea of getting to know someone first is obsolete, unless you enjoy having her fuck other guys at the same time. There is no such thing as restraint, it's a free-for-all. Of course, she may be upset later if you don't date her seriously. But at the end of the day, this behavior is rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:18 PM
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Gender equality isn't really about gender equality. It's about giving women all the benefits that men have with none of the downsides. For instance, women have fought for the high-status white collar jobs that men possess, but most women want nothing to do with dirty or dangerous blue collar work.
/r/seduction04/02/25 03:22 AM
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I wish there was a Chad for every woman on Earth, but unfortunately only 15% of men in America are over 6 feet tall. So, someone's going to have to share. Personally, I have some success, but rarely the supermodels. I got over it. The women who can see my value are good enough for me. I think the ask is that women could see men that way too, and to see it early enough before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:28 PM
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It’s not just about having a child, it’s about raising one. Statistics show that fatherless kids tend to have more problems - drug problems, crime, poverty, etc. Personally I don’t think many women would love to be single moms, but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:12 PM
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It sorts itself out ultimately. The women who shoot for the stars and are not good to reach them end up childless. The women who date within their league get to reproduce and pass on their genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:57 PM
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