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The term "average" just means caucasian. In a majority white society, whites do have an easier time dating. They do not know what it's like to be Asian or Indian, which is a completely different reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:56 PM
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Maybe the one that doesn't make sense is for men to occupy a position of power. In terms of survival in the modern day, this is completely unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:57 PM
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I don't watch TV. Women have 3-8x stronger in-group preference than men. We all know women are the more social sex and have their own gossiping network that they try to keep between them. It's not the 1800s anymore, men have a clue these days. The Bechdel test is not indicative of good or bad writing. It was invented by a woman who isn't into men. Numerous films that fail the test are written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:36 PM
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If you don't think they love their partners, that's fine. You are an anonymous stranger on the internet, there is no way I could prove it. However, I know what I've seen around me, so I'm going to respect real life over whatever you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:58 PM
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I'm not saying it's right, I can only comment on the reality of what I see around me. The idea that "A woman who actually loves you would never accept one-sided open relationships" is OP's opinion and not accurate for all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:46 PM
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They get hurt every time they get cheated on. I think that if there was no love, then they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:33 PM
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I don't think that's true, since I personally know examples of women who accept precisely this type of relationship and have accepted it for years. If a man is high-status enough, he gets away with it. Don't get me wrong, the woman does suffer and age terribly. But she still accepts it because men with status are rare. Maybe I can't show you the people I know in real life, but here's an example you can look up: Sykkuno.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:18 PM
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Men who avoid prostitution generally do it out of a sense of morality and/or to avoid legal issues. It's also not exactly enjoyable to have sex with someone who doesn't like you. None of these factors have anything to do with bragging rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:16 AM
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Idk, it seems like those men are losers. I genuinely do not care if a woman wants to be independent. Instead of whining, I can find another woman who wants the same things that I want. No-one, whether male or female, is irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:43 PM
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I don't think that all women necessarily are fit for relationships. But it's common knowledge that women use their partners to compete with their friends, and being single gives you nothing to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:19 PM
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Firstly, I said that there is a demographic that women should target, not one to avoid. Secondly, you are being disingenuous since everyone knows how to use ChatGPT. Nice try, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:25 PM
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This is exactly right, and the greatest irony is that fathers are more important than mothers when it comes to how a child turns out. There are statistics on crime rates and how they relate to single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:04 PM
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It is leaching. A stay at home mother gets the benefits while she is in the relationship. When it's over, she should make her own money. The reason 70% of divorces are initiated by women probably starts with the fact that women are incentivized to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:54 PM
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That's just prostitution with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:47 PM
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I can't actually talk about that, but any AI chatbot would give you the statistics. As far as sexual harassment rates, I'm not sure we actually know that since men probably report these things less often than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:10 PM
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It’s better to look at his dating history, check him in the register, and be actively aware of the signs of abuse rather than base it purely on demographics. If hypothetically there were a female demographic that were 5-10x less likely to divorce me, I would stick to dating that demographic forever and learn to like it. If you choose to ignore the risk because you like someone, that is a choice. I've certainly done it myself because someone was hot enough. You can’t do much about sexual harassme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:40 PM
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It is actually possible to remove these risks, or minimize them by carefully vetting who you date. There are male demographics that are more likely to be violent, and male demographics that are equally as violent as women. However, in terms of statistics, women actually don't prioritize safety as much as other factors when choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:16 PM
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The problem is that the transaction is unbalanced and skewed. A woman, even if she has an unattractive face only needs to go to the gym and have a reasonable sense of fashion to land a man. A man has to have clout, which most people are not born with and takes 10+ years of effort and luck. Plus, he can lose it if he messes up. Being kind and going to the gym offer predictable results, so they are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:54 AM
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Zero effort. Women have excessive demands and put in no effort, which detracts from other things I might want to spend my time on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:24 AM
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That argument makes no sense, since by definition, the woman also experienced a failed relationship. Women are not infallible beings who never make bad decisions. Anyway, what I'm saying is backed up by the 50% divorce rate, so it's not even necessarily my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:39 PM
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Who said it was encouraged? I don't encourage intimacy for everyone. Many people have their lives destroyed in this pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:55 PM
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Having romantic experiences is part of living a full life. Even if it's not ideal, I will still do things I don't want to do in order to enjoy the good parts. I'm sure women feel the same way about going to the gym, although those expectations are way easier to fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:29 PM
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Having men who only want sex from women ignore women is pretty much the dream. Nah, I don't buy it. Every single romantic experience I've had involved sex long before there was any mention of commitment. In several cases, they straight-up did not want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:02 PM
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How are you supposed to have a healthy understanding of intimacy, when the truth of intimacy is unhealthy? It's all transactional and based on power, it's not some fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:37 PM
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How does it change anything if men who only want to use womens bodies for sex are off the market? Women willingly have sex with men like that all the time. The implication that women aren't interested in casual sex is completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:11 PM
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and women can easily invent things if other women would give them free time and care. That's actually not true. There was a Bear Grylls experiment where they split women and men up into groups. The women who were left on an island alone ran out of supplies and the people running the experiment ended up sending men over to the woman's island.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:31 PM
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This is ignoring the existence of evolutionary psychology. Humans have studied other animal species who have similar mating patterns to us and observed exactly the same patterns that we display. You think that humans are special in some way, but they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:09 AM
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Men will tell the truth about what is attractive to them. Women lie about it or they just don't know themselves. The advice from women is always "be nice, kind and respectful." They NEVER say something like "build your social status," even though it is blatantly and obviously the best way for a man to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:50 PM
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So, I guess you can't address the argument and you're just saying random stuff now? As far as the gym, I have been going for 15 years. It was never difficult. If I was a woman, that would pretty much guarantee any man I wanted. As a man, it doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:20 AM
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That's a goofy argument. 150 mil makes it among the most popular books of all time. Other books that sold similar numbers include Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and The Lord of the Rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:42 PM
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Women bought the book 150 million times. That's equal to half the population of the US. Nothing you can say about that? Anyway, anyone can look around them and see who gets dates. Reproduction is based off of millions of years of evolution. It's not based off of what feels fair or logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:21 PM
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That proves my point. Christian Grey is based on what real women are attracted to. The books were best sellers across the globe. Anyway, you say that's not true. Okay, where is your Youtube with 1 million followers? Are you on a popular TV show? Do tell how you achieved your status so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:09 PM
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A man can have none of those things and still have multiple options that match their criteria. All men need to be successful with women is a position of status. You may think they're lucky, but not really. Women's standards for men are way harsher. Attaining that level of status is harder than going to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:45 PM
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Physical attractiveness and fitness are obviously very important to men. If someone wants children then fertility would be important. Age isn't a universal factor. Other things I've heard involve avoiding women who have partied or slept around excessively. It's basically a male ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:20 PM
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There are no updates on this subject. The term was renamed to "Advanced Maternal Age" because the original term was deemed offensive. The increased risk for complications remains exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:01 PM
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Usually you'd want to date a man for several years before even considering marriage or pregnancy. At 25, there are only a few chances left. Other women who advocate for partying and messing around at this age are not actually speaking in your best interest. It's more of a rebellion against traditional values, while ignoring reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:28 PM
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The majority of men do not have the luxury of choice. For the men who do, they already have very high standards. Most women can't get their commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:02 PM
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A pregnancy over the age of 35 has been historically referred to as a "geriatric pregnancy" because it increases the risk for birth defects. So if you really want children, you probably don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:58 PM
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The energy that it takes is exhausting, especially if you have a job. Levels of exhaustion where you're randomly dry heaving throughout the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:37 PM
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The common phrase is looks, money, status. If men don't have looks, they compensate with money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:27 PM
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There is a difference between knowing something and being able to achieve results. There are many football coaches who were never great football players, but they're still respected for their depth of knowledge. In addition - If women are hypergamous, it would mean that even if all men upped their game, nothing would change. Let's say that genetic engineering means that all men are now a minimum of 6' tall. The bar for an attractive man now becomes 6'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:45 PM
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Men are able to look around them and see which men are getting dates. Based on what they observe in other people, they can form advice that may be useful. In my experience, men are more willing to plainly state what they see around them, rather than to filter it through the lens of what feels good to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:35 PM
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That sounds like astrology and nothing to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:49 PM
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The one thing that's always entertaining to me is how comfortable people are talking about the differences between the sexes, but cannot approach the subject of differences between the races when it comes to criminality. Of course, if there were no point to be made, why would anyone be uncomfortable talking about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:17 PM
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It's above the average. Anyway, it's obvious that the higher the number, the less special it becomes. It also increases your risk for STDs. You can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:49 PM
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It's not to be taken literally. If the number is above 15 then that's enough, really. The average number of lifetime sex partners in the US is 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:44 PM
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Of course, everyone loves chaste women. Women love experienced men, but those men are more likely to cheat, to have a rotation of women, or to leave after a year. There's no such thing as a "special" woman if you've had a thousand women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:53 PM
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Women and men who are chaste should stick with each other. Women and men who engage in casual sex should stick with each other. For long-term relationships and marriage, chastity leads to better outcomes. If your goal is LTRs and marriage, abstain from casual sex. If you have not abstained, you're already in the second category. Your LTR prospects are men who have been ran-through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:34 PM
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I don't agree with it, but I also don't believe that any advice could help that situation. It's as meaningless as going to a gambling addict and offering them advice. The problem requires more work than that. I do believe that people can learn from their mistakes, but if you're still stuck on "all men are pigs" then you haven't even acknowledged that you have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:30 PM
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So, it really has nothing to do with dicks. It's about running through multiple partners, and this goes both ways. You can't expect someone who runs through partners to be good LTR material, they get bored too quickly and their brains are wired for pursuing short-term pleasure. Women who chase ran-through men and expect them to commit are equally foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:14 PM
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People with high body counts should stay with their ilk. That's the only way it ever works. A lot of those men won't stick around. It's not ideal, but those are the consequences of pursuing short-term pleasure over long-term gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:46 PM
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It's not a problem at all if women abstain from casual sex. There are plenty of men willing to wait as long as the woman did not already give herself away for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:10 PM
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Women do not ignore icks for attractive men. A woman can flip on a dime based on how the man behaves. For instance, take your Jeremy Meeks and have him send a fangirl 5 texts in a row, that will destroy his chances immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:42 AM
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Actually, they are. Women are attracted to men who are highly successful, that's obvious. What many men are experiencing is what it feels like to not be successful enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:35 AM
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Not really, it has barely any effect on the study. If women "poked" fewer men, it means they did not find >80% of men attract enough to reach out to them, which is the point. Anyway, you can see the actual distribution here, which proves that women not only are less likely to "poke" men, but they also find the majority of men straight-up UGLY, not just below average. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QMD8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:00 PM
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If anything, the data given by OkCupid is even more accurate than anything you can get in a study, because they are presenting recorded data from unperturbed human behavior (e.g. statistics). Meanwhile, studies on this subject would rely on surveys, in which humans often lie or misrepresent their actual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:33 PM
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Women are less likely to do that. They are, just in a different way. Most women want a relationship with a hot guy, but they settle for a situationship with the hot guy. In both cases, you're accepting an unhealthy situation because it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:44 PM
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The statistics are based on what people say they do, not what they actually do. It's plainly obvious that if you ask women a sensitive question like this and guarantee full anonymity, they're still more likely to lie about it -- whether to feel better about themselves, or to say "ok, but that hookup was just oral so it doesn't count."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:55 PM
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It's only natural for people to fight for as much power as possible (including women). Women are already treated as superior in many aspects - divorce court and the draft being obvious examples. No women are pushing for equality in these fields, because that would benefit men at the expense of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:28 AM
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Women generally tend to value a thing in terms of how others view the thing and not the thing in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:17 AM
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A woman with healthy functioning hormones craves sex as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:58 PM
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It's not really within control, is it? It's as much of a decision as "just go homeless" is if you don't want to work - Doesn't seem like much of a choice. An argument could be made for "capitalism is the only system that works," but is the current state of dating really the only system that works? It would seem that other countries with different systems have higher birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:20 PM
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I do accomplish those things, and I do talk about unfair it is. In fact, there is a huge market in talking about it. Mostly the question is -- Is it even worth the effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:12 PM
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That is basically a complete 100% lifestyle change for some men - years of work and discomfort doing things that you don't want to do. All women have to do is go to the gym. Technically most men are capable, but it's not close to being easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:07 PM
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Cherry-picking edge cases doesn't disprove the general rule. Most things that are difficult will yield better results than most things that are easy. Besides, the downsides are apparent: She will compare you to her past partners and can be more difficult to please She might have STDs A woman with many past partners has a track record of chasing short-term gratification, which might increase risk for cheating She might get bored of her partners quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:43 PM
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Cherry-picking edge cases doesn't disprove the general rule. Most things that are difficult will yield better results than most things that are easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:38 PM
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No, it’s related to the amount of effort they have to put in. Just being a good person doesn’t get you laid to begin with - That is how men end up friendzoned or beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:22 PM
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Nah, the reason why men become fuckboys is because they are incentivized to by women. Anyone can see how men who get into relationships get scammed, especially when it comes to her past. Women try to hide this stuff and it bites them later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:14 PM
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Being a trad-wife just because you have the freedom to, does not mean that trad-wives fall under the concept of feminism. Trad-wife is a traditionally conservative lifestyle. Making the choice to be a trad-wife as a feminist is like saying you're making the decision to vote for Donald Trump as a liberal. To me, it seems like you want the benefits of feminism (to feel like you're in the cool club) without actually following a feminist lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:59 PM
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The concept of a woman relying on a man to survive is the definition of patriarchy. You can’t be a feminist and support SAHM, it’s impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:34 PM
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The concept of SAHM is pretty much obsolete in 2025. Feminists call it patriarchic and controlling. Men don’t want to pay for a womanchild AND an actual child. It’s unrealistic unless you bag a rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:06 PM
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And you have no support for your claim that men are not fetishizing women criminals The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You have no proof, because there is none, otherwise you would've posted it. Wikipedia is hardly a critical source of information. It is based on the bias of who writes the articles. It was written by a man, which again supports my point of how it is men who are obsessed with women and what they do. Uh, hello? Anyone with internet access can edit Wikipedia art…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:48 AM
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You can't ask a fish how to catch a fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:15 AM
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No, it's because men barely fetishize criminals at all. You have absolutely zero data to prove what you are saying, while the Wikipedia page for "Hybristophilia" uses extremely gendered language. Do you think Wikipedia is a red pill source? Further more, women do get upset about male choices. In particular, women who are obese or old really hate that the top men prefer youthful, in-shape women. An example of this is Leonardo DiCaprio, who has had numerous front-page threads made about him dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:28 AM
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Men do the same thing. Why don't we hear about it? Because women are not fixated on men who do this. Go to any women's sub and you will not find even one post with women complaining about men going after women criminals. No, it's because it barely happens at all. Women do get upset about male choices, especially on this subreddit. In particular, women who are obese really hate that men prefer youthful, in-shape women. Men like you on the other hand are fixated on what women are doing and who the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:19 AM
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Way to completely miss the point. For Twilight and 50 Shades to have sold 1/3 the copies of Harry Potter each, that makes them massively influential. Men going after female criminals is not really a thing that’s recognized as a phenomenon. Women going after criminals has countless articles written about it. Google it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:16 PM
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I do not care about the mentality, I care about the downstream effects. The mentality is rooted in biology and cannot be changed anymore than you can change the wind, but downstream effects can be changed. For instance, there are multiple countries where women are drafted. And for prison sentences, it's easy to imagine an AI-assisted system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:04 PM
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My friend, obviously, it's mostly women who read these books. You have to be completely out of touch with reality to think otherwise. Your point about "most women" not reading these books is totally irrelevant... Given that Harry Potter has sold 600 million copies around the world, and there are 8 billion people on Earth, most people have never read Harry Potter. Yet the popularity of the books and effects on our culture are undeniable. The same thing can be said about the Bible, which has only …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:51 AM
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I don't know, it's not a big deal to read words. Things that actually affect men like being drafted into war or getting longer prison sentences for the same crime are more offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:27 AM
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There it is. You redpill types will always obsess over women cheating but give a pass to men. Actually, I would rather someone break up instead of cheating. But you can't seriously be arguing that a sexless relationship is desirable for anyone. What is the point? Even when the data isnt self reports, men were still found to cheat more. Nope. It's impossible to gather any data that isn't self-reports. What are you going to do, track them with a GPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:23 PM
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Do you mean to say that 50 Shades of Grey, about an abusive wealthy entrepreneur, did not top the top-selling books around the world and was not translated into 52 languages? Or Twilight, a romance about a dangerous and mysterious vampire, which sold over 160 million copies, on the NYT best seller list for over 235 weeks, with translations into 49 different languages? Or the serial killers who receive countless love letters, and got married and had kids while in prison? My friend... You've got n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:36 PM
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Those statistics can only be based on who was willing to be honest about it. Furthermore, when men cheat, it's usually because their wives won't have sex with them. To be fair, there is no point in a relationship where you want it and your partner doesn't. That's worse than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:56 PM
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It's pretty funny how women project their own sick mentality around sex onto men. For many men, sex and romantic love are not separable, but for women they can easily compartmentalize a random fling and return back home to their husband and act like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:31 PM
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If sex is too risky, why are there so many cases of women flocking to bad buys, drug dealers, and gangsters who end up abandoning their children? Let alone the sexual fantasies about werewolves or abusive billionaires on the bookshelves of Barnes & Noble. I figured that people would be past the point of lying about this by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:16 PM
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Nah, usually nothing changed about the man. They just were together for too long, and safety/stability are antithetical to fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:14 PM
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Women often want sex equally as much as the man, if not more. In that case, they aren't quite satisfied with hugs or friendship either. So this argument that men are some kind of fiends for wanting normal sexual relationships is really about your own personal hangups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:45 PM
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No, women love sex. They just don't like sex with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:26 PM
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I think most people are okay with that. What they take issue with is being strung along or being made to jump through hoops that someone else didn't. It's way better to be left alone than to be in a situation where you have to put in excessive effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:42 PM
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The common denominator is that women chose those men. Then they say that all men are like that. When people say "choose better," this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. If you want kids, choose men who have traits that would make them good fathers. Don't choose the bad boys, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:19 PM
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Judging from this post, I don’t think women understand it, either. Most casual sex doesn’t occur with people the women knows, trusts, or feels safe around. Those are LTR material traits. Women who engage in casual sex are looking for excitement and mystery. This can happen within 30 minutes of meeting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:16 PM
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Many women seem to have both more sex, and sex with questionable men that is less safe, meets their emotional and other needs less, etc. I have also found this to be the case. At a place I frequent, I have seen horny women decide to go home with SOMEONE, even if it wasn't the person they originally wanted. I've also seen women who've fucked multiple guys from their social circle and never commit to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:23 AM
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It's not supposed to make sense, because you cannot make comparisons between sexual orientation and attractiveness. A straight man's disinterest in another man isn't because the other man isn't hot enough, it's due to the fact that he is not attracted to men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:02 AM
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lol what? Why would that indicate that straight women want to have sex with hot straight women as much as men do It's not supposed to make sense. It's equally as absurd and nonsensical as the original statement. Women are not as turned on by as many people as men are…women are allowed to be different then men. Our attraction doesn’t have to mirror there’s If the overlap between male and female sexuality is so small, why make a comparison in the first place? Just say what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:30 AM
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Women want to have sex with most men As much as you want to have sex with most men—which is not a lot. It's a bunk argument, because this would indicate that straight women want to have sex with hot women as much as men want to have sex with hot women—which is a lot. It would be better to use fat women as an example, but OP can't do that because fat women still get dates. So the truth is that we're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:58 PM
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This is a bad argument because most men are straight. A better argument would be "most men don't want to have sex with fat women." And fat women still have more suitors than average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:50 PM
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so wtf do you want women to do about men committing crimes against each other? go complain to someone who actually cares It's not a complaint, I'm just stating facts. Your argument was "if you have an ugly face people will still treat you badly", and I think I have pretty much proven that ugly women are treated better than the average man and shouldn't be complaining. “lol. beggars can’t be choosers” what’s the point of you trying to be snarky? you said ugly women have it easier than average men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:07 PM
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women go to the clubs in big groups with their friends, and clubs are usually in areas that aren’t too dangerous at night. Okay? So do men. Men aren't going out to dangerous areas for no reason, they're going to places where there are women. stop bringing women into all your problems. I guess that you forgot the point of the argument, which is that women get treated better than men do. Bringing up the gender of the violent criminals makes no sense. I can just as easily bring up the race of the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:58 PM
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women have lower risk of victimization in violent crime because they generally don’t leave the house at night, don’t join gangs etc No, it's because violent criminals don't tend to target women. Women are heavily involved in nightlife, otherwise no one would be going to clubs at all. every problem you named is something caused by men. maybe come up with examples about how both men and women treat men if you actually want to make a point. It's funny how male victims of violence are somehow respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:38 PM
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i was talking about general treatment, not just dating options. you don’t have to agree or disagree with me, there are scientific studies about this topic There are also statistics proving that women in general are treated better than men (shorter prison sentences, lower risk of victimization by violent crime, no risk of getting drafted, etc). Ugly women are treated better than average men. isn’t 5’9 average height? It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:51 PM
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I don't agree with that. Women who have potatofaces will have more dating options than a 5'9" man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:20 PM
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your last paragraph refutes nothing i said, when i mentioned ugly women the first time i also said ugly men are treated badly But I didn't mention someone's appearance. I mentioned the way they choose to present themselves. People are not born with obesity, or wearing ugly clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:09 PM
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They’re complaining about their normal ass husband leaving the bathroom dirty or something mundane like that I'm seeing stuff like this all the time. https://preview.redd.it/cy457wd0v1hf1.jpeg?width=1135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c04dda8c951c7760a4ccc3f4638bf7c93223f7d6 i don’t understand why you’d hate someone for choosing to be fat I wouldn't really mind if they kept to themselves, but sometimes I have to interact with fat people (man or woman) and they're just not pleasant to be around. Especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:57 PM
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i don’t know any dead beat crackheads or drug dealers. but even the words you used imply that most women are still not dating those kinds of men. Most women aren't complaining on the internet about men, we're talking about the ones who are. men hate ugly women by default Ugly women are fine. I generally dislike fat women because they choose to be fat and then inconvenience everyone around them. It's like when a drug addict goes out in public and makes everyone uncomfortable with their presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:42 PM
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It's the same as when women in relationships lust after male pop stars and celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:32 PM
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most women dont date deadbeat crackheads or drug dealers. Enough of them do that I can literally name several people I know IRL. given how much men complain about above average/beautiful women being entitled or bitchy due to how much attention they get from men, yes it makes sense for a woman to tell a man to choose a less attractive woman so he doesn’t have to deal with that stuff. That's a bit of a just world fallacy. I've never found uglier women to have better personalities, they just become…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:35 PM
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When men say “choose better” it means don’t date deadbeat crackheads or drug dealers or guys who beat them. When women say “choose better” they just mean to choose less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:09 PM
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making conversation means i’ve been on a date before?? No, the point is that he was joking and not being completely serious. if 70% of divorces are initiated by women then seems like men are pretty bad at choosing women who won’t divorce them Maybe it's more accurate to say that they did choose the best women and 70% is the best case scenario. This is just how women are. That's why it's all about avoiding marriage these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:53 PM
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There are many reasons he might have said that, including but not limited to flirting and making conversation. Anyway, 70% of divorces are initiated by women, and some men simply don't care if she has a past or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:38 PM
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The worry comes from their subconscious instincts. Most of the time it’s justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:20 PM
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Nothing to do with her appearance, it's the expression she's making. And yes, men can tell. Everyone knows what kinds of things models have to do to get famous in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:15 PM
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I would meditate, exercise, eat clean, and save myself for the right partner. Of course, this is just a fantasy reserved for 1% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:11 PM
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It's not that deep. Intimacy is a basic human need.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:04 PM
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The look in Sweeney's eyes is just fucked. You can tell she has done unimaginable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:56 PM
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That's pretty funny that you would make it about looks, because most serial killers are ugly. Charles Manson is 5'6", does he look hot to you? The truth is that women are attracted to serial killers because they are famous. Secondly, serial killers aren't considered hookup material. There are dozens of cases of serial killers who got married and had kids while in prison. I want to get away with being awful too! That's not really the case, because any moron can become a murderer. It's not like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:43 PM
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Serial killers can get laid, but 1/3 of men can't. Let alone having women taking the initiative and reaching out to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:22 PM
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Nah, that is just sensationalism. If you take 5 seconds to look into the story, you'll know that it wasn't taken down by the app store, it was taken down by the guy who created the app in under 24 hours because he is unwilling or unable to ban malicious users. Anyway, your post has nothing to do with the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 PM
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That's a nice try, but the first sentence in the Tea app description is: "Are we dating the same guy?" So, since you weaseled your way out of the question, I guess you wouldn't find it acceptable. And in response to your second claim? No, there have not been male-only versions of the Tea app. Men aren't sick enough to doxx the person they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:55 PM
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If men created an app where they post their gf's full name and photograph, and ask other men if she's dating them, would you have an issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:43 PM
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Look, I don't give a shit what you do, just don't be surprised if you get the same thing in return. Now that everyone knows how much the Tea app users weigh, it's on the internet forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:36 PM
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Use apps and subs to warn women about abusive men and red flags. Doxxing people isn't what they meant by "picking better." It shouldn't be that hard to identify if your boyfriend is dating multiple women without needing to doxx them on the internet. Understanding perfectly that the guy in the video is a red flag. The guy in that video has no trouble with women. He's on TV which is a green flag in terms of what women actually value. Okay, then I’ll keep my legs until we make it official and he pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:01 PM
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No, not really. The United States was founded on classical liberal principles (limited government, private property, free market, laissez-faire economics.. sound familiar?) The state of dating has only recently become completely repulsive once social media and dating apps became popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:01 PM
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Or they can just lie about it the way women do about their body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:11 AM
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Aren't you men the ones who are using women just for sex, resources, etc, cause you guys are the one who hold the gate way to commitment and then say women need to choose better? There is an obvious distinction between two groups of men. People like OP are the soft guys who can't get women, they genuinely would be committed to any girl who is attractive enough and wants to date him. The guys who actually get women have an abundance of options and have no reason to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:23 PM
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Both are equally bad. Just because it happens does not mean it's not a big deal. The fact that anyone is even defending this app is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:35 AM
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Very few people should eat 1200 calories a day. That is a crash diet and it's unhealthy. Eating ~2000 calories consistently for a few months works better. Exercise is pretty important for losing weight. It burns calories, increases resting metabolic rate, improves insulin sensitivity, mobilizes fat stores, and improves hormonal balance. And believe it or not, men who are in shape vastly prefer women who have some muscle mass over skin and bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:52 PM
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I've done both (exercised and made money for years). Making money was harder and more damaging to the body. Also, it's not like it made dating easy. It would be so much easier if women came up to me asking for dates the way that men do. Instead you have to play this shitty game where you have to move everything forward but also you can't express too much interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:04 PM
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It's easier to be a top 20% woman than it is to be a top 20% man. The woman just needs to work out and get on a diet. Men have to do that too, but also make a lot of money and be socially popular, which takes a lot more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:52 PM
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The bare basics which no one can argue with are that sperm are plentiful and eggs are scarce, which sets up the entire playing field. When you look around you and you wonder why men are drafted to war while women aren't, or why traditional gender roles exist, or why women receive most of the money in alimony, it all comes back to the same principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:56 PM
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They get treated better and find it easier to make friends without endless barriers. This is completely biological and subconscious, not something you have control over. There is no “why” other than the fact that we are born this way and not some other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:42 PM
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It's not because of something special that they're doing. It's because women are treated as more valuable by default, so they are more easily able to form social ties with men and other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:28 PM
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That doesn’t seem to be it, since most of the time couples have a lot of sex at the start and then it dies off when the woman stops wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:57 PM
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You’re supposed to want your partner to have sex with you So that begs the question why there are so many dead bedrooms, and why nagging would be necessary at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:58 PM
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No one wants to be nagged into taking out the trash, either. Everyone hates naggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:50 PM
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So, if a woman nags a man and it's the man's fault for not listening, wouldn't it be equally appropriate if a man nags a woman and it's her fault for not listening?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:14 PM
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Don't you think it's strange how nagging is always one-sided? It's never the man who makes demands of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:42 PM
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It doesn't change anything if she rejects 90% of men who come up to her. All you've accomplished is boosting her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:41 PM
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https://i.postimg.cc/jS1Yd9Q0/hmmm.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:01 AM
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I've been preparing my whole life for this moment. https://imgur.com/a/qeyCV5t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:17 AM
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You’re probably right. I haven’t seen it, or maybe I forgot about it since it’s so rare. But I don’t think that can be applied to most men, just the crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:32 AM
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It's difficult to believe because women complain about it. "Where have all the good men gone?" They tend to prefer posting that stuff on TikTok over Reddit, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:27 PM
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Sounds great. Now if we can get women to stop whining about sharing 10% of men with multiple girlfriends, that would be swell. Or if they want to be alone with their cats and their garden, that's fine too, as long as they don't complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:17 PM
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Wow, I had no idea that men complaining about women on the internet was causing the genocide in Palestine. Nevertheless, I highly doubt there will be complaints once the tech is good enough. Any other objections?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:58 PM
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Definitely not. Men also are getting artificial gfs, so we don’t have to deal with mind games anymore. Freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:20 PM
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A lot of men would hate to need help opening a pickle jar, yet here we are. Two counterparts of a shit sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:07 PM
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I understand what you're trying to do, but chasing after a woman is honestly way more humiliating than being called a princess. In fact, some men are into crossdressing, and they still look hotter than some of the women who post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:53 PM
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I understand what you're trying to do, but chasing after a woman is honestly way more humiliating than being called a princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:34 PM
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When did OP imply that a woman has to commit to one wealthy man for the rest of her life? I didn't quite catch that. Anyway, it's obvious that my point has been made, you're stubbornly argument semantics. You can go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:18 PM
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Actually, there are many businesses who handle one wealthy client at a time, so you really didn't add anything new to the discussion. So again, it comes down to how you view yourself. Are you a can of Coke that anyone can buy at the store, or a hand-built luxury guitar that's produced once every 3 years? I never made a judgment call.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:44 PM
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Nah, you forgot to mention the obvious. It’s not enough for a man to be in a hobby or social group, you have to actually hold high status, e.g. be a teacher or competitor. This is easily years of work. Most women in these groups are complete beginners, but they all shoot their shot at the instructors. Then they get surprised when they're all sharing the same man and can't get a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:30 PM
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Businesses can run either way. Some businesses deal with very few rich clients and some deal with millions of clients who give them $1 each. It really comes down to how you view yourself as a product.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:41 PM
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I haven't seen anyone defend rape, assault, or pedophilia. I can agree with everything else though. It is true that many men don't really like women that much, simply because women put them through so much shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:54 AM
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That’s what happens when a woman has been partying in her 20s and can’t get the men she wants to commit so she settles for a less attractive in her 30s/40s. Anyway, the truth is that if I had fame, I wouldn’t commit either. I would fully take advantage of the free rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:03 PM
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I think it's not only resources, but social status as well. That's pretty much all there is to it. Men who have resources and social status get dates, men who don't get nothing. And before you say that's sexist, I'll freely admit that men only date women who are physically attractive, and a good personality is mostly icing on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:56 PM
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Women continue to date up even when they have higher incomes. It's just what women are hardwired to do. This is why their own options become more and more limited as they continue to earn more money than men. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7435487/Marriage-rates-declining-economically-attractive-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:41 PM
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That's why the men at the top choose not to commit. It's literally not worth the effort and emotional risk, on top of what they already had to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:36 PM
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what fucking adult women do you surround yourself with who bully men they don’t find attractive? I'm going to let anyone reading offer their input. But I can say It's a very common experience among less attractive men where he would interact with a woman and she would look horrified, or physically shrivel up and recoil in an extremely rude manner. women aren’t only valued for being in shape. you can’t change your facial features Losing body fat and gaining muscle does affect your facial features…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:20 AM
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There definitely were bullies in high school, no one in high school has a fully developed brain. As an adult I have never bullied a fat girl, I just treat them well even if I would never date them. I can't say the same for adult women. And yeah, women are valued for how they look. But it's far, far easier to get into shape than it is to gain social status. I have lifted weights for 14 years. Maintaining the habit was never hard because you're always rewarded with an enhanced mood. What's hard is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:43 AM
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It's hard for me to have sympathy, having seen how women treat less attractive men with visible disgust and revulsion. Anyway, you don't have to change what you say just because someone else can insult you. Have a thicker skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:32 AM
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This is exactly the same as when they say all incels need to take a shower. Women always assume that men who can't get laid are dirty, or have a bad haircut, or are misogynistic, or otherwise deserve it in some way, and never believe that some people are born with shit luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:56 AM
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Right. Of course the only exception is the highest status man in the free world who brags about grabbing them by the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:34 AM
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There are no different kinds of women. That's like saying that some men don't care about a woman's beauty. No, all of them care, they just are willing to lower their standards if they can't get the most beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:31 AM
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Social status has nothing to do with whether or not a man will tell people about your asshole. There's no correlation between the two at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 AM
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This is now the thread where women virtue signal about how they don't care about fame, while their behaviors in real life show exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:26 AM
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Thank you! A lot of women who can’t get their man to commit need to hear this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:01 PM
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Counterpoint: Arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:54 PM
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I've heard women IRL bring up a man's huge dick on their own volition too many times for it to be a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:42 PM
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If Leonardo DiCaprio is a disgusting freak, what does that make any of us? I think that if women in their prime are throwing themselves at you, saying no would be extremely ungrateful. As evidenced by your own post, there are countless upstanding men who were given no such opportunity. Besides... You don't know how he treated them, or if they were happy. No one ever asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:33 AM
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That would be stripping women's autonomy. If women have the right to reject men, then they also have the right to choose older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:01 AM
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I would only accept this if you were to replace "men" with "women above 30" and still felt fine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:00 AM
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On a purely physical level, women around the age of 23 are the most attractive. However, psychologically they are pretty much unrelatable. The best you could really do is to have FWBs in that age group which half of them are into anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:55 AM
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My experience has shown that women very much do seek out casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:31 AM
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Many who do actually share their experiences face a lot of backlash - shaming, blaming, not being believed There are so many ways I could go with this. If a woman calls the cops on a man and says she was raped, that man is 100% going in handcuffs. This will not happen if a man calls the police on another man. Women for whatever reason choose to post about their experiences on social media, when they should be talking to a lawyer. There actually are women who have admitted to making up false accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:54 PM
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A lot of guys do get sexually abused as kids. They avoid talking about it because there’s no support like there is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:41 PM
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If everyone were gay, no problems would exist because no one would exist. There wouldn't be any children. Without life, you can't have any problems. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:20 PM
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Of course not, because women need men to solve those problems for them. But I'm sorry, all the men are gay now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:16 PM
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That's true, and all of the women who hate on men should just go lesbian. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:29 AM
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He didn't approach any of them. None. Imagine just having woman after woman falling into your lap, that's the reality. But sure, 5'10" is fine, you just have to actually put in effort. And you never know if the woman you're courting gave it away to one of those guys for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:28 PM
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These guys post their experiences of dating on the internet all the time. For example, this guy who had 40 live-in relationships (Dexter_P_Winterhouse on Reddit). His dating advice is "let women make the first move." Lol, completely separate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:59 PM
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Of course, some people are born into power, but there are plenty of hierarchies which don't require that. Think of martial arts where the black belts are at the top, all they did was train for 10 years. Meanwhile, there are plenty of Silicon Valley engineers making $300k who give women the ick. They're still taking orders from other people. Doctors making $300k don't have that effect, because they're giving patients orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:50 PM
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Power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:45 PM
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a good portion of women are dating the same guys Always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:36 PM
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The best way to be attractive is to be 6'5". Then women ask you out and you don't have to do anything. Otherwise, you're gonna have to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:34 PM
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Dating advice is generally about offering platitudes to make you feel better. Actual truthful advice is not pleasant to hear, because most of the people who succeed simply chose the right parents and put in zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:46 PM
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It’s not possible to engage with an unclear argument. Write a better post next time and you’ll get better replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:11 PM
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You haven’t said anything of value ever since I called out your poor writing skills. Don’t get mad, just get better at writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:33 PM
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What a zinger. You have a future as the next female comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:39 PM
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That's true, but women don't seem to feel that way when men check out their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:19 PM
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It’s way better to operate under the assumption that your partner has undesirable characteristics, than to believe that they are the exception and be disappointed later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:13 PM
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Haha, nice try. The issue here is your writing, my comprehension is flawless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:03 PM
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Your post talks about women having low self-respect and not high enough standards, and then you proceed to talk about a woman who's dating a man who is not college educated, etc. And how she is "paying the price dearly for it." Basically you're being extremely sloppy while trying to express your ideas, and then blaming it on other people for misunderstanding your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:22 PM
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I've had this experience more than once. Basically acting like they like you, but they're really in the city temporarily and are leaving the next week. It would be great if the expectations were clear upfront, then I wouldn't have any problems with it. The reason women complain is because they punish men who make expectations clear upfront, and reward men who lie about it. Of course, it's not so easy to tell when someone is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:04 PM
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It’s kind of crazy that you would imply that being college educated, taller, making more money than her, and being in good physical shape are indicators that a man would make a good father. A lot of men have all of those things but don’t like kids at all. Can’t you think of traits that aren’t related to superficial characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:23 PM
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Fit men would generally prefer women with muscle over any of the alternatives. There’s a massive niche on YouTube where men watch female volleyball players, pole vaulters, long jumpers perform (for the plot obviously). Just don't use steroids and it's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:36 PM
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There are a few who I liked, but I still wouldn't seriously date. Since I am athletic myself, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to date someone who doesn't take care of themselves. Exercise and diet are basic self-respect, just like hygiene. Old/ugly aren't a problem as long as they're fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:41 AM
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I don't think arguing with a man on the internet is really doing anything. You would want to do something like posting your own thread on how to select a man for positive traits and how to spot warning signs and how to exit safely. The manosphere has countless writeups on how to select women. Lots of raw advice, which may not always be helpful or politically correct, but at least there's something. But the femosphere has nothing for selecting men. Things like "don't someone who has killed or abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:46 PM
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I don't think the Palestinians accept their treatment either, but it's happening anyway. Basically it's the equivalent of a deer writing an expose to a lion why it shouldn't be eaten. To make matters worse, women not only don't reject the perpetrators but are specifically attracted to men who are more powerful than them, and many write love letters to serial killers. Then the predictable response is "you don't want to date those women anyway" and never "hey fellow women, stop dating fucked up ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:29 PM
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That's true, but I don't think anyone posting "I'm a strong independent woman and I don't need no man" is involved in any heavy-duty religious or meditative practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:21 AM
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The game of life is a game of power, and whining about being powerless isn't going to help. If men hold the power, it's because women have accepted reliance on things that men built. We know what happens when women get left on a desert island without men. They go hungry. So it's not something that can be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:09 AM
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You’re missing the point. Why were men in a position of power where they could allow or forbid women to do anything? Why weren’t women telling men what to do instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:20 AM
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I’ve heard that a thousand times. Here’s the thing, men never had to be included in anything. They didn’t wait for anyone else, they just did stuff. Women can do that too, but they waited for men to give them approval instead. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:02 AM
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It also doesn't change the fact that women don't need intimate relationships with men. Women who grow old without any relationships tend to be a little weird and crazy, just like incels. Women don't owe men relationships because ancestors that created or developed things happened to be men. Ridiculous. Obviously not, but in a hypothetical scenario, if the power was shut off and no one came to pick up your trash, things would turn around extremely quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:33 PM
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To be fair, women rely on systems run and maintained by men. The computer you're using was built by men. Same with roads, buildings, electricity, airplanes, cars, air conditioning, phones. All invented by men. There are some women in these fields to be sure, but the vast majority of women are not and, would not be able to run things without men. The only reason women can live independently is because men have made it that way. And sure, you can link me the list of 20 women who were legitimate ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:28 PM
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Tell me how you would like me to fuck off, and I’ll be happy to do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:47 PM
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I think it’s fine for people to date who they want, but don’t complain if the man you chose turns out to be a problem. You chose him over 100 normal guys who would never act that way. The traits women love (aggression, social dominance) are often at odds with kindness and morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:01 PM
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I couldn’t give a damn what women’s preferences are. Some of them like me and some don’t, it’s fine. However, it would be nice if they didn’t treat you like a rapist if they don’t find you attractive. Being undesirable doesn’t make you a bad person. I befriend women who I’d never smash all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:17 AM
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That's funny because women often treat sex as a bartering tool themselves. For instance, girl A and girl B are both at a party with a guy. Girl B happens to be extremely horny and virtually shaking. Girl A is not but she offers to leave with the guy anyway because she is afraid girl B will have sex with him first. This is a true story...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:58 AM
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Nothing. Men with dropped libidos typically have low testosterone and experience depression, anhedonia, fatigue (which are typically addressed with TRT). Sex drive is one's life force.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:07 PM
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Women's ideal partner would be a man who is competitive and aggressive, but also nice and moral. However, these traits are very rarely seen in the same person, and given the choice they will always prioritize the former over the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:15 PM
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True. Unfortunately women respond the best when there's other women who like you. The greatest incentive for men to become the player that women complain about so much is female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:22 PM
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They only do that when there's no sex or the woman let herself go, or both. We get it, women aren't sex machines, but zero sex implies that you aren't even partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:40 PM
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Who said anything about dates? Most men would happily take easy sex that's thrown at him, even if the woman is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:35 PM
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Try to find women who are attractive but not crazy hot, they tend to be less difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:36 AM
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I go to those often and there's the same hierarchy as there is anywhere. There are people who run the place and people who walk in off the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:39 AM
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No, lmao. I would rank them as equally undesirable. The idea that someone would find sexual pleasure in my death is completely foul, even if we were to be generous and assume that it’s a hot girl. And for me to go to a prison and try to marry a woman who killed 12 men? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:13 PM
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You basically just admitted that you wouldn’t be so upset getting killed/raped as long as the perpetrator doesn’t hate you. I mean… That says more about your fucked up nature than I ever could. And it has little to do with incels getting butthurt. Well-adjusted men find this behavior to be disturbing and fucked up. That’s why there’s entire news articles written about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:40 PM
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The reason why it’s so talked about with women is because getting women to chase you is extremely uncommon as a man. It really says something when serial killers get that much attention. Meanwhile, men will chase any woman who is hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:30 PM
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“Wrong place/time” has nothing to do with women who write love letters to known serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:23 PM
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I am sure it is so comforting for women to know that the man who has raped and killed 13 women doesn’t HATE women! He just loves raping and killing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:12 PM
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You might want to click the link I posted. These are guys who raped and killed upwards of 15 women, chosen more or less at random. And you mean to say that women feel safer around serial killers than internet posters? This argument is getting completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:53 PM
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It’s so crazy how the answer is “try harder,” when the straight-laced path is to try to get clout (years of hard work with no guarantee), or to pursue women relentlessly (again, a lot of emotional labor and risk), meanwhile actual murderers do nothing of value but cause pain and suffering, and have women chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:03 PM
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There’s often a psychological draw, prison relationships feel “safe” because they’re distant. There’s no real intimacy or rejection to fear, just control and idealization. That is simply not true. Firstly, there's the obvious fact that the act of writing letters to someone would be turning a fantasy into a reality. Most humans are content with enjoying fiction, they don't go out into the real world and try to make it real. Secondly - It's well-documented that women would sit waiting for hours to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:50 PM
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It's pretty clear that popularity and social value are the most important factors in attracting women, and morality or safety are far down the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:50 PM
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That is a bit of an unhinged defense to make. It's like if a serial killer went to court and said that he was conditioned to do it from playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:03 AM
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It's not that deep (lol). Most men have seen.... videos, on this subject, and they can see exactly where women stand on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:18 PM
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Someone who is in very good shape who doesn't engage in casual sex would be nice, although this reduces the options to almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:06 PM
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That’s quite easy to answer. It’s not that they don’t want meaningless hooker sex, it’s that they don’t want the embarrassment of paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:12 PM
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Men want to feel loved. Doesn’t matter if it’s real or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:01 PM
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So no one actually asks that the women loves us, we ask that she does a good job at faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:53 PM
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Meh. Women don't love men in general. They love the feelings the man gives him, the lifestyle he affords them, or the social status that he offers, but the man himself is completely disposable. It's kind of how men love the way women look, but if the woman puts on 50lbs, suddenly it's not the same person anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:01 PM
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Right. So we live in a democracy, but Trump is an oligarchy enabler. So... How long until it's an oligarchy? Anyway, to get back on track - The truth is that billionaires DO donate millions of dollars to charity. Jeff Bezos has donated $110 million (he worked at McDonald's). Elon Musk has donated $7 billion (he worked as a boiler room cleaner for $18/hr). Yet, women seem to have a much harder time throwing in a pity fuck once in a while. In some ways, billionaires are more generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:54 PM
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Neither is the US. It’s an oligarchy, and the rich want us to have more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:33 PM
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It seems to be working in the Middle East. Hilariously, feminists never talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:24 PM
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Well, the other option is government-mandated girlfriends, but I wasn't planning on going that far, nor do I think it's necessary. Maybe legalize prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:13 PM
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It’s easy. Give the billionaire a job at McDonalds for a few months and they’ll gain a sense of empathy. For women - maybe ya’ll can try playing the man and planning dates for other women, or joining a dance class and playing the man’s role (I know women who have done the latter, and they are far better people than the majority of women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:03 PM
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No one said they were, dude. Have you heard of metaphors? Women have more power than men in dating. That is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:47 PM
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True. Tbh I tried to date promiscuous women, but the feeling of physical revulsion is undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:04 PM
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When it comes down to billionaires oppressing the poor, the Reddit-approved view is that the billionaires suck, but when it comes down to the dating marketplace, the poor must pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:59 PM
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I agree with that, although having this preference severely reduces your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 PM
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You're kind of late to the party, but this is the easiest thing for me to answer. Just check the Wikipedia page for every single woman you mentioned and then check DiCaprio's. No woman is criticized on Wikipedia for this, but DiCaprio is. That is a pretty obvious indicator of the scale and severity of the criticism. "Throughout his 40s, DiCaprio had been the focus of various reports detailing his involvement with women aged 25 or younger, and had faced criticism for the age disparity of those re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:12 AM
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Perhaps the most unpleasant aspect of the dating system is that men all want the same women, and women all want the same men. That is, to say that attractive people have countless options, and the rest have few options. This makes unattractive people better for relationships and attractive people better for hookups. Basically, suppress your instincts and listen to the song "If You Wanna Be Happy" by Jimmy Soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:16 PM
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The fact is that men generally prefer women in that age range, regardless of how old the man is. Leonardo is really just dating the women who most men want to date, but the difference is that he can actually hold their interest due to his celebrity status. When men claim to prefer older women, they hold this opinion because older women are more attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:21 PM
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This thread is specifically referring to “every time there is a conversation about men dating younger women,” so it would be appropriate to mention what happens every time an older woman dates a younger man (Nothing!)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:05 PM
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Bringing in sex offenders is a strawman. 50-year old men dating 23-year old women is what OP is talking about and the way people shame Leonardo DiCaprio on Reddit is a prime example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:56 PM
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It's a thing on Reddit that Leonardo DiCaprio is a scumbag for dating 23-year olds. There is no thing on Reddit where a 50-year old woman is shamed for serially dating 23-year old men, it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:51 PM
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Obviously, everyone is talking about people who are of legal age. No one is talking about sex offenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:49 PM
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Yes of course, when an older women dates a younger guy it's fine, but when an older guy dates a younger woman it's predation. Women are helpless and weak, the outdated gender norms strike again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:43 PM
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I don't see the point of that. It's a money pit. You will just get horny again after an hour. You could argue that a gf would be the same. But they won't charge $300 per session, it's more like $300 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:33 AM
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No one is intimidated. The real issue is that women tend to date up, so dating a women who is above your level is risky, and they are harder to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:40 AM
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I don't. If you eat clean and workout, your skin will be naturally radiant and won't need makeup. When you kiss someone who's wearing lipstick, you ingest all those nasty chemicals that aren't meant to be in your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:10 AM
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That is not really related to what I said because I have personally walked away from casual sex multiple times when I felt it was too early. In 2 cases the women did have sex with another person that same night, one of the gents being a man who has a girlfriend in the same social circle. I wouldn't say any of them were picky or guarded, they were really just horny on that particular night and looking for the right man at the right time. Actually, the problem is lack of self-restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:28 PM
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Bold of you to assume that either of those things bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:59 PM
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Everything in my experience has led to the understanding that a man has to try to fuck as soon as possible, and decide on a relationship later. The idea of getting to know someone first is obsolete, unless you enjoy having her fuck other guys at the same time. There is no such thing as restraint, it's a free-for-all. Of course, she may be upset later if you don't date her seriously. But at the end of the day, this behavior is rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:18 PM
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Gender equality isn't really about gender equality. It's about giving women all the benefits that men have with none of the downsides. For instance, women have fought for the high-status white collar jobs that men possess, but most women want nothing to do with dirty or dangerous blue collar work.
/r/seduction04/02/25 03:22 AM
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I didn't say that people who enjoy sex are emotionally damaged, I said that people who are promiscuous are emotionally damaged. It's perfectly fine to enjoy sex with one partner who you are in love with. As far as evidence, you could try this. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201303/how-casual-sex-can-affect-our-mental-health
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:28 PM
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Let me put it this way. Imagine a man has a choice between two women. Both of them are equally physically and emotionally attractive. But one of them has slept with 30 men and the other has slept with 2 men. Which one would he choose for a partner? Ask 1000 men this question. You will get the exact same answer regardless of religious beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:58 PM
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They don't have a choice in the matter. Either due to sex addiction or STDs or mental health disorders, no one wants to have LTRs with them. You really need a citation? Promiscuous partners are more likely to have STDs and less likely to be satisfied with one partner. Every single person they have an LTR with will be subsconsciously compared to 20 other people they slept with. No one wants that, when there are women available who don't have that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:42 PM
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Promiscuous men and women aren’t all that invested in settling down. They don't have a choice in the matter. Either due to sex addiction or the STDs they have gathered, no one wants to have LTRs with them. Oh? Do you have a citation to support that? You really need a citation? Promiscuous partners are more likely to have STDs and less likely to be satisfied with one partner. Every single person they have an LTR with will be subsconsciously compared to 20 other people they slept with. No one want…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:38 PM
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I know women enjoy sex, again that wasn't my argument. What I am saying is that women who are too promiscuous become emotionally damaged and make worse long-term partners. Most guys looking for LTRs are really turned off by women who sleep around. It's a trait of male biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:42 AM
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I didn’t say that. What I said is that being used for sex over and over when they expected a relationship causes long-term emotional damage. It leads to a look in the eyes that you can easily identify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:08 AM
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That supports what I am saying. The Chads have the best genetics, but they won't be around to take care of the child. The average guys have average genetics, but they can offer commitment. A child with average genes who has a father will do better than a child with great genes and no dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:04 PM
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I wish there was a Chad for every woman on Earth, but unfortunately only 15% of men in America are over 6 feet tall. So, someone's going to have to share. Personally, I have some success, but rarely the supermodels. I got over it. The women who can see my value are good enough for me. I think the ask is that women could see men that way too, and to see it early enough before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:28 PM
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It’s not just about having a child, it’s about raising one. Statistics show that fatherless kids tend to have more problems - drug problems, crime, poverty, etc. Personally I don’t think many women would love to be single moms, but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:12 PM
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It sorts itself out ultimately. The women who shoot for the stars and are not good to reach them end up childless. The women who date within their league get to reproduce and pass on their genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:57 PM
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No, they can't. Women also can't, they have to be somewhat physically attractive or men won't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:54 PM
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This problem sorts itself out ultimately. The women who shoot for the stars and are not good to reach them enough end up childless. The women who humble themselves reproduce and pass on their genetic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:47 PM
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