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Spot on as always doggo. Really need priority likes to hit the top tier girls. Their queue is ALWAYS 99+ likes or more deep
/r/seduction27/07/26 03:17 AM
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Reframe your thoughts so that the REGRET of NOT APPROACHING is stronger than any fear of rejection. That feeling when you had the perfect opportunity to talk to a girl and instead you just froze and never said a word... that aching gnawing feeling that doesn't leave you for days. THAT FEELING SUCKS waaaay more than anything a girl can say in disgust to me.
/r/seduction25/07/26 06:46 PM
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🤣
/r/seduction25/07/26 04:04 PM
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I'm with you and on your side but that isn't quite true. Racism in dating is a thing, particularly if you're after Caucasian chicks. But this BS is completely out of your control so I wouldn't bother worrying about it. You're doing the correct stuff and working on your social skills. You asked how to make it less goal oriented. You do that by learning to enjoy social interaction. The flirting and teasing becomes itself an enjoyment factor. You can have a successful social interaction with a cute…
/r/seduction25/07/26 03:57 PM
1

This is exactly what I just recommended to someone struggling to talk to women.
/r/seduction25/07/26 03:54 AM
10

You may be like me, where anything under a 7 is a 0 bc I just can't do it. Most guys aren't that way afaict. Convenience vs Quality is a thing I suppose.
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:17 PM
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Nice article
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:16 PM
7

Standard advice would say for most men to shut up and listen to her talk.. the more talking she does the better. If you're able to flip that, you're doing it in a confident, fun and flirtly way, not a boring "lets discuss statistics and I'll tell you all about the racial differences in star-trek" kind of way. It is an AMAZING thing to have that skill. Why do you ultimately care if they're falling for you hard? Outside of being SO insanely famous/attractive she would do anything with you, that is…
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:16 PM
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Non-whites have a harder time, that is factual and supported by data. It's not a HUGE hurdle, just harder -- especially if your preference is caucasian baddies.
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:02 PM
25

Trend I've noticed: OLD abundance will always be 1-2 points lower than you can pull irl. Hot girls are hot girls, they have abundance mentality we could never dream of. Options = instability.
/r/seduction24/07/26 07:59 PM
1

My fav thing to do is fuck with bitchy condescending women, bc I can usually dominate them intellectually which they find insanely attractive (they'll never admit that obv). If you're not at least TRYING to shoot on these types you should, just for fun. Nothing sharpens your game quite like dealing with a girl that's thinking "HOW TF is this dude confident enough to hit on ME!??" She will shit test you into oblivion.. and if you have liquid nitrogen running through your veins and can maintain fr…
/r/seduction24/07/26 07:54 PM
2

It's pretty rare for a girl to feel comfortable with that OLD.. I don't do a ton of upfront comfort bc I don't invest nearly that much before meeting her
/r/seduction24/07/26 04:44 PM
38

Basically, you won't know the true nature of the fairer sex until one completely disavows you of the Disney fantasy by ripping your heart out.
/r/seduction24/07/26 05:21 AM
96

Every lethario has a story of that one girl who broke him so completely she inadvertently and unintentionally released the monster within. I'd almost argue it's a necessity and a rite of passage of being successful with women.
/r/seduction24/07/26 12:14 AM
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This is partly understanding how women operate and partly communication. If there is an agreement that you are exclusive, then your guilt is technically warranted. If you're sleeping with a girl routinely and she hasn't brought up exclusivity, either she believes you're exclusive without confirmation (most women know to confirm it and have the natural urge to confirm it) or she considers it casual and may be actively involved with other guys herself. You should know which it is, if you don't fin…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:27 PM
2

Dating apps are particularly toxic for men. Never let it weigh on your self-worth man. Even Chads I know with perfect profiles aren't getting the results they want.
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:02 PM
2

Plati blonde hair also makes them look YEARS younger.. bit of a hack for older chicks
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:56 PM
11

INNER GAME INNER GAME INNER GAME. You must get over this idea that you're chopped or whatever the fuck. Dude, I always try to be sensitive to this but the term "man the fuck up" applies to this thinking. Snap the fuck out of it. I hate seeing men suffer like this. If you need mental health meds, GET THEM. If your testosterone is fucked, FIX IT. Do what it takes bc wallowing is NOT the way my brother.
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:53 PM
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Showing my age here but I always loved Roissy's go-to method: "You have to come taste some of DC's finest tap water!"
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:31 PM
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It's not bad at all dude.. you put yourself out there and went for it with balls. Good on you. The text itself is fine, even hints at a playful vibe which I really like. I might have approached it with one other thing in mind though... Idk if you were texting her before this msg or if this is the first text. If it's the latter, I would have hit her with a hook or two first to get her responding. I also do this when a lead has gone cold, even if it was previously hot. The idea is to not blast her…
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:34 AM
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Casual girl, so you have to accept the chance that "that P" belongs to several fellas. In the act, her not responding isn't necessarily a huge deal. Most girls would just play along bc thats the point, but some can't even talk straight at certain points, or maybe she didn't know how to respond to that since it crosses some lines for a "casual" situation. If everything else is gucci I'd just ignore it personally.
/r/seduction22/07/26 09:15 PM
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Texts are easy to ignore, there is more social pressure behind ignoring calls from a friend. I don't know the full story, like if a friend group or social circle is in play here. Was it just a drunken night of oral sex? Are you still talking sexually with each other or did it happen and nothing has been mentioned since? How old are you both?
/r/seduction22/07/26 08:57 PM
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Wait so she ghosted you via text but still picks up the phone calls? Sounds a little off to me like she tried giving you the hint but you calling her is social pressure. I hope I'm wrong but that's what I'm hearing here.
/r/seduction22/07/26 08:26 PM
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So you slept with her a couple times and she got feelings then you basically bounced and never kept up with her.. is that the gist? Now you're surprised she has walls up? If somehow you've maintained frame/value through all those gift offerings and the sex was good, you could try dropping the player act a bit and assure her you're not in this to just sleep with her again (sounds like you might be tbh). I wouldn't say it like that but you get the point. I wouldn't normally suggest this but I'm as…
/r/seduction22/07/26 04:23 AM
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Second to last paragraph are all valid reasons. Best move for you is to assume she likes you and is doing it to make you jealous. In that scenario I'm completely unfazed by her antics and hitting up other girls and getting them laughing and having a fun time with YOU. She will notice and you value will increase in her eyes. But remember women are infinitely better at playing these little shadow games than us and you will lose value the longer you play. You need to bust a move.
/r/seduction21/07/26 03:28 AM
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It is a form of status and many women are social media obsessed, so the answer is pretty obvious -- you should use it to your advantage.
/r/seduction21/07/26 03:04 AM
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Everything you said, yes. Tone of voice is huge, practice lowering it. Biggest thing is to slow down all your movements.. talk slower, move slower, react slower, walk slower, drink your beer slower.. if you have an itch on your nose, scratch it slowly (not fkn joking).. if someone drops a glass on the floor, you do NOT swing your head around like a chihuahua terrified someone is about to murder you. You are amused at everything and everyone, but nothing impresses you (thats the attitude). You're…
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:37 PM
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I call these flipping the stereotype.. it almost always works and you can link it up to ANY other routine, like getting compliance out of her, hugs, even kiss closes can naturally flow from this. Examples: "I saw you lick your lips....." <let it hang> "I saw you lick your lips.. damn if it's gonna be like THAT just propose already" (it doesn't NEED to make sense, it's about the FEELINGS) "I saw that.. <point at her lips> you licked your lips! I know I'm a snack but damn try not to be so OBVIOUS!…
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:03 PM
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Definitely... AI profiles, AI photos, AAS use has gone nuclear.. don't even get me started on looksmaxxing. Say what you want about Casey Zander, the dude used to do entire whiteboard deep dives, now he's gone full-on chad transformation mode
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:20 PM
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Dance floor game kings do this all the time. Personally, I dance like shit so I have to speak lol
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:13 PM
1

Or put another way, the need for looks/game is inversely proportional. If you have amazing looks, little game is needed. If you don't have amazing looks, game needed is a sliding scale up to infinity-1
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:12 PM
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Ah I see the method in the madness 👍
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:09 PM
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The entire of point of game is to "create attraction" by emulating high status behavior and elevating your interactions with women in a confident way. What you probably mean, is that attraction is not a choice, but it can most certainly be created. In OLD, you could make the argument that looks are 100% needed, bc that's ultimately what gets you consistent matches and the CHANCE to show your personality/wit/game/etc
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:02 PM
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My points were so valid that you are now using them against me 🤣 you're even mirroring my words, I think you're into me
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:13 PM
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Game deniers are interesting, the fact that you can say all that and not recognize your own mental bias is fascinating Game is emulating attractive behavior, that's all. Some of it is bad behavior true, bad behavior women find appealing. If you think that ONLY works on broken women then you don't have enough experience with women. This is one step away from pedestalizing what you consider "quality" girls. By your logic, a quality woman would never cheat or be tempted by a smooth talking lethario…
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:37 PM
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Game is emulating behavior that women find attractive. Or put another way, behaving in a way that gets a woman's brain chemicals flowing. And what is love? Basically the same thing. These are related, not separate processes. You're right about one thing, it works REALLY well on those types of women you mentioned. It also works really well on good gf quality girls too. It even works on blue-haired game denying feminists (they secretly crave to be dominated by a strong man) 😉
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:11 PM
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Why can't it be both? The skills to do one are also part of the skillset to do the other, so not mutually exclusive. Are you saying if a hot girl isn't quality gf material, you wouldn't sleep with her?
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:42 PM
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I have no delusions that most guys would fuck almost anything, but in my mind this sub is not JUST about sleeping with whatever you can get (for some of these guys that is a lofty goal in and of itself). In general though, I'd say it's more about elevating your game and potential so you can sleep with more of the ones you want versus just the ones you can get.
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:31 PM
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People who argue like Rake aren't capable of second or third order thinking. There's no recursive reasoning going on, just his contrived examples of black and white deduction and clutching to exceptions that validate their perspective
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:11 PM
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Depends what your preferred approach methods are. If it's OLD you're either a Chad or talking out your ass. When we throw these ideas and concepts around, we're not talking about specific people. We're talking about men in general and men in general are having a hard fkn time out there.
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:03 PM
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If you had to distill it all down, this is basically it. This is the domain of the super Chad. If we take it to the logical extreme, it then means be super Chad or be frustrated. My theory is this is why looks maxing has become what it has. Men will evolve and adapt to the game they're presented with, that's literally how we've survived. Women dictate, men adapt. Unfortunately, this has dire consequences for birth rates, which should probably be the real conversation. I'm sure society will get t…
/r/seduction19/07/26 05:48 PM
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Buy her dinner or cook for her. Game over 😂
/r/seduction16/07/26 09:24 PM
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She felt slutty or her friends made her seem too easy.. don't worry about it. Going along with it gives her the mental nod that you weren't out to use her and paradoxically will free her up mentally to keep doing exactly what she's going to do, sleep with you. She may press it for a date or two but cmon, it's a paper tiger.
/r/seduction16/07/26 09:13 PM
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Right cause when she says "I'm not going to sleep with you tonight" she REALLY REALLY means exactly that and you should move on. All due respect mate but you're in the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction16/07/26 03:43 AM
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I understand WHY you say that but it is a fundamental misunderstanding of female nature/evolution.
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:00 PM
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There's plenty of guys on here doing just that my friend. The ones trying to protect this subreddit are the real ones. I see a lot of feminist ideology and simp shit making it's way in lately.
/r/seduction15/07/26 10:55 PM
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As a young man, the biggest leg up you can get on your peers is to develop your social skills and talk to women.
/r/seduction14/07/26 07:23 PM
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Keep your game tight man, we're rooting for you.
/r/seduction14/07/26 05:51 AM
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Could be a lot of things but from your description my best guess is you have strong confident body language that women would expect more from a highly physically attractive man. I'm hyper-aware of my body language so also in this boat to a degree. This confounds women and they will be curious about you. Looking at you to see how you react is a test some probably can't resist. If you appear shy or look away too quickly I bet they stop being interested immediately. But if you lock eyes (not in a c…
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:50 AM
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Don't "she's catching feelings for me" into being a sugar daddy. These chicks are master manipulators. Hope I'm wrong.
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:39 AM
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IHAB is a classic female shit test. What are you talking about? And what is happening to this sub jfc
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:07 AM
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Sorry but don't listen to this. The way the world works is the way it works. Women monkey branch from one dude to the next, it's not your concern if she is trying to monkey branch TO YOU. Actually I prefer it to the alternative. Morality doesn't enter into it.
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:05 AM
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At this point you're in the "not getting the hint" stage. Time to bust a move. I suggest keeping frame as much as possible. If the teasing angle is working for you then leverage that.. find something that makes it seem like it's a huge inconvenience for you but will help her, ie. "Oh your dog is sick? Damn well I guess cause we're such good gym bros I have to come make sure he/she is ok since I'm the marine biologist" makes no sense, is funny and paints her as the one needing YOUR help. BELIEVE …
/r/seduction14/07/26 04:01 AM
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Unfortunately this doesn't protect you from the groups. They will screenshot your Tinder/Hinge/Whatever and post that in the group using just your first name or initials (sometimes with other information).
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:21 AM
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I've had this happen multiple times. It can definitely fuck your shit up with new girls, as the girls commenting will lie and roast the shit out of guys they're no longer with. One girl doxed my workplace multiple times. And if you ghosted her, forget it.. abuse/rape accusations are common. It's definitely a problem. On the bright side it can provide some notoriety which is good. I had one hot girl posting about me openly without being anonymous and my current girl saw it and had a complete melt…
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:17 AM
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Stop caring/believing/staking your emotional wellbeing on anything a woman SAYS. Especially an Ex that has massive psychological needs to paint you as the bad partner. Her opinion is irrelevant. But yeah sex needs to last longer than 2 minutes my friend.
/r/seduction19/06/26 04:11 PM
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Don't use the cube unless you're witty and good at teasing/flirting. If you are, it's golden as is any story telling technique. It hits on several things most women love.. talking about themselves, taking "quizzes" and mysticism. There are endless points in the cube to push/pull and tease her. I don't just run it start to finish either, there's so many tangents and side threads that come up you can break off into, and opportunities to transition if the natural flow breaks down or she isn't react…
/r/seduction23/05/26 02:48 PM
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I see you have something profound to prove, I hope to yourself. As an older guy, I understand. I'll give you some actual practical direction here. The easiest way to bang a hottie is to find a damaged one. This is dark but your goal isn't exactly noble so here you go. There is a disproportionately high incidence of beautiful women that have mental health issues. I'm specifically thinking of borderline personality disorder and other related conditions. That's interesting AF but I digress. Once yo…
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:14 AM
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I feel you on that, we've all been there and it does fkn suck. Slightly different from op's context, but I went through this with a really great girl (I don't say that lightly) that I reconnected with a short while ago, so the feeling you're talking about is fresh on my mind. If you can't summon your inner psychopath and reframe it as a success (assuming you slept w her) I think the only way to truly move on is to already have other women or to go successfully game other girls.
/r/seduction07/05/26 03:38 PM
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I'm all about helping my brothers but “definetly soon :)” is not a response I would ever reply to.. she's busy with other dudes and you're the backup or it's a soft rejection. Curious how you offerred the meetup. Did you give a concrete day/time/activity like "Let's grab drinks at XYZ bar on Sat.. 9pm" or did you say something like "Hey HotGirl#486 ;) when are we going to hangout?" The first is assertive, assumes the sale and takes all responsibility off of her to lead (you lead, she accepts or …
/r/seduction07/05/26 12:02 AM
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I've been in this position, albeit with a younger woman that I am still sleeping with years and years later -- now THATS some widows fire for you. Quiet_Rock's take is the same as mine. You likely could have slept with her but you're way too in your head. Her justifiably mercurial mood is also likely an issue. However, she is responding to jealously plot lines which are very powerful tactics, but you can't use it forever. Take advantage now while she is reacting to you flirting with other women …
/r/seduction06/05/26 10:15 PM
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For me personally the light bulb went off when I started feeling that the REGRET of not approaching an attractive women was WAYYY worse than the sting of her rejection.. which 99% of the time isn't even THAT bad (yes some girls just dgaf and will be assholes about it, fuck them) Being amused at rejection (god tier) > being indifferent to rejection (great) > ACTING indifferent to rejection (good enough, most of the time) > getting butthurt about it (not good)
/r/seduction06/05/26 09:49 PM
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Wrong yet again bot
/r/seduction06/05/26 03:45 PM
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If you've had sex a bunch of times and she's liking your vibe, it sounds like you pushed the indifference too hard at a point where she's starting to screen you for relationship material. At this point you should be having inside jokes and telling her to come over cuz you can't wait to fuck her brains out and nothing should be awkward like this. By all means stay frosty but you have to start showing measured vulnerability or you risk coming off like you're only interested in a casual arrangement…
/r/seduction05/05/26 11:57 PM
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There's a whole subset of game that revolves around dance floor pickup.. very little verbal communication. That doesn't mean there isn't communication. Dancing well, putting his hands on the girl, leading her and having the balls to escalate is all he really needs. Target selection and reading which girls are actually open to the invitation by evaluating body language and using compliance tests is definitely skill/rizz/whatever.
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:50 PM
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I hate this topic. If she's legal it does not fucking matter. All that does is..... Is she sexually attracted to you? Yes? Case closed. If you disagree then don't do it personally and stfu about other people's choices
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:16 AM
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Treat her like a normal girl, making her fall for you will inevitably lead to sex. Sounds like you're 90% of the way there. My experience with girls who have withheld that long is after they take the plunge (pun intended) the flood gates blast open and they make up for the lost time lol. Play it with care and consideration, ie. don't rail her out the first time and don't be a dick in general, and you may enjoy the release of all that pent up sexual energy and curiosity
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:11 AM
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Why tf is this down voted?? Any guy with actual experience must know this is true
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:43 PM
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Good conversation is a prerequisite, but alone and without massive value and sexual tension/escalation it doesn't mean jack shit. I've lost average looking girls when logistics didn't line up and for whatever reason I couldn't escalate, even tho the conversation flowed naturally for hours. If there isn't sexual spark you're going to lose most attractive girls with options immediately. "He was good looking and cool but there just wasn't that connection" The other thing to keep in mind is party gi…
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:42 PM
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This is almost exactly my method as well and I like the idea of engaging her logical brain and owning the "blame" for the interaction. That gives her the green light to rationalize that things "just happened" and assuages any guilt or shame. I think of it like two steps forward, one step back. That's the mindset. After LMR hits (worth stating here that good game pre-empts and mostly eliminates this) and transitioning to music/movie/sleep mode in a completely smooth and non-butthurt way, she will…
/r/seduction13/04/26 03:15 PM
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Rob nailed it above but this is also an important distinction if you want to extend things. You shouldn't be incongruent to who you were the night before but this is where you can show a little more humanity and really cement your personality and masculine energy. I call it aftercare. I've had girls jump me again after treating her with a little respect the morning after. Simple shit like making her coffee or breakfast go a LONG way here. Remember, we want to leave them better than we found them…
/r/seduction11/04/26 04:55 PM
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The kind, soft-spoken, caring and loving ones usually aren't going to blow your mind in bed. I've passed over good girls just like you did bc the sex was too bland or she just didn't summon that demon inside me. It's either there or it isn't and trying to find it the way you described will be futile in the long-term. Don't feel bad though, women do this ALL THE TIME. But do be honest with yourself that you're trading vanilla stability for toxic girl boom boom
/r/seduction05/04/26 01:36 PM
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This.. be the glue that brings them together. Control the logistics and make it easy for them. If they're both cute, it'll happen naturally. Let it, hell encourage it.
/r/seduction01/04/26 08:42 PM
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Listen to doggo, he's a real one. Nothing to add
/r/seduction01/04/26 08:39 PM
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"most of the time we end up sitting across from each other" Never do this if at all possible. You need to always be in range to touch her. Tell her to stand up, you feel like walking. Bounce to another table. Bounce to another venue (you're doing this anyway right?) Do whatever it takes. Kino is just too important to sacrifice and many guys miss this. I will royally piss off the entire wait staff by moving chairs and furniture around before I let an interview style date happen.
/r/seduction31/03/26 05:42 PM
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Don't fight the environment...if it's a drug and sex party half the work is done for you. The girls know what the vibe is and if they show up you go with it. I wouldn't worry too much about getting to know the girl. Be bold, tease and flirt. Escalate early and lead them. Don't get drunk or high but a little bit helps. Some of my best experiences happened in this exact situation. Don't think you can pull off a threesome in the bathroom? Think again and make it happen.
/r/seduction31/03/26 01:51 PM
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That's tough OP. I mostly run OLD personally and at my peak success was something like this.. out of 10 matches I'd get 1-2 numbers. Out of 10 numbers I'd get 1 date. Out of 10 dates I'd get 5-7 intimate encounters. Run the numbers that's a ton of fkn matches, hence why the profile has to be spot on. 1-3% total success rate. Notice the hard part is getting the dates and the easy part is closing them when there is already attraction going into it. I've always had talent in the seduction side of t…
/r/seduction31/03/26 07:26 AM
2

I've been in this situation and it can work in your favor. As the IT guy, you're one of the first people she will likely talk to at her new job. There is massive opportunity to befriend & flirt with her while becoming her trusted confidant. The vibe you want to foster is you're the superhero IT guy that helps her succeed in her new role. You also have to make sure you don't cross into friend zone territory and you continue to flirt and tease her and the computer is a great place to do that. Ther…
/r/seduction31/03/26 07:10 AM
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Bro I sooo know what you're feeling here. You think this is something you need to prove to yourself. This isn't all bad, it's what drives you to improve and I won't tell you not to listen to that inner voice. We all want to look in the mirror and feel good about what we see and how we feel about that man staring back. We want no regrets and to have conquered the highest mountains. But what I will say is the pursuit of 9-10's has taken WAY more out of me than I ever got in the pleasure of catchin…
/r/seduction31/03/26 06:52 AM
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I respectfully disagree
/r/seduction31/03/26 03:01 AM
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This can def work but he needs the confidence and the attitude to match
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:58 AM
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Username checks out ✅
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:57 AM
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What's one thing older guys can ALWAYS get away with? Being incorrigible flirts. Lean into that HARD. Give zero fucks and hit on them all. Think Corrado Soprano. Anywhere you go act like you own the fkn joint. This is assuming you're talking about slightly younger women. Much younger women will entertain your flirtations, but most won't take them seriously and that's just life. But if you're talking age-appropriate women, you should already be poon hounding the retirement community with ease. It…
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:56 AM
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Bro, wtf are you talking about. I thought you were trolling before but now I realize you are just in completely the wrong subreddit. Ignore this clown.
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:37 AM
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Hoemath on YouTube/X explains this very well. Check him out. Ignore all the race baiting stuff he's doing nowadays tho Basically, if you're pulling 5-6's but not 8-9's you're probably a 7ish. Like most guys with standards you want attractive women and you have the attitude to put in the work to do that, so definitely keep doing that no matter what. Banging girls below your usual ranking and not wanting your friends to see them is perfectly normal though. Even men who are 9-10 have that bucket of…
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:14 AM
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We're arguing different things I think. Two definitions here -- "Beauty" (looks is the word you used) taken on it's own IS objective. Many many men will look at a picture of a strange woman and rate her relatively closely and within a narrow distribution. But I agree with you that "standards" are wildly subjective, as that includes preferences for all kinds of shit (hair/eye color, body, personality, etc, etc) all taken together
/r/seduction30/03/26 10:53 PM
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Cuz women know exaaactly what they want right? /s This only works well if the guy has extremely high value or if the girl asks some variation of "so when can I see you again" Basically: Girl loving his vibe and getting giddy about where this is leading = "Soooo when can I see u again xx" Guy getting giddy and futurr projecting his "omg this is going SO well and I like her so much she could be the one" emotion and excitedly planning the next date = "I had a good time and you're a great guy but...…
/r/seduction30/03/26 08:39 PM
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To a point yes. Banging lower quality girls will bite you in the end and while it's a perfectly viable strategy to gain experience or get out of rut (we all have them) it will hurt your game long term if you're constantly settling for what's easy.
/r/seduction30/03/26 03:26 AM
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Looks are very objective. Ask 100 guys to rate a girl and the average will be pretty well established. Just some (most?) guys are willing to massively compromise on their attractiveness threshold to get laid. I've personally never done this bc I physically can't get it up for less than a 7ish
/r/seduction30/03/26 03:24 AM
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Since you said you know she wants to sleep with you, this is a matter of playing it cool and not getting butt hurt when she stops your advance. This is the shit test to end all shit tests and if you fail you will probably lose her. The main idea is to go two steps forward, one step back. Every time she stops your progress, focus shift to something else in the least emotional way possible. If she detects a single ounce of neediness or butt-hurtedness, you're cooked. For example, if you're making …
/r/seduction30/03/26 03:07 AM
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Hard pill to swallow for OP but this is spot on, consider it a learning opportunity. All around great advice and the part about slyly confirming the date is golden. It let's you detect any pending flakiness early on and potentially turn it around and/or show non-reaction and emotional control.. it also gives her the opportunity to play the cancel card before the meet time saving you time, energy and opportunity if she does flake
/r/seduction29/03/26 02:18 AM
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Confirmed limited experience with women
/r/seduction29/03/26 02:07 AM
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Sounds like your inner game could use some work. I'm sure you were able to sleep with someone without consciously employing social dynamics, the same way I'm sure you can make a free throw without worrying about basketball shot mechanics. If you're a guy who believes men should just throw the ball up there and 2 out of 10 is good enough, then I nor anyone else have anything to learn from you
/r/seduction28/03/26 10:49 PM
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It's def lower probability but if you insist on doing it this is the way. I've personally used the abducted by aliens angle. Whatever you say it should be non-needy, funny and communicate that her non-responsiveness didn't phase you at all.
/r/seduction27/03/26 03:20 AM
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Not exaaaaactly and I only nitpick bc there is important nuance here. Calling your male friend a twerp, yes it means an idiot. Calling a woman a twerp is an entirely different situation. Every guy should have these kinds of little pet names they use on women and most women love this kind of flirting. My personal favorite is dork, but it could be anything that elicits some kind of emotional reaction out of her. Brat, dork, tiger, sport, pippy longstocking, punky brewster, sugartits, jezebel, harl…
/r/seduction27/03/26 03:14 AM
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You're comparing social dynamics to fringe sci-fi fantasy? You can't take something clearly insane and relate it to something you don't like to attempt to prove it's invalid. Just say you don't believe in game bc it doesn't work for you and lets move on
/r/seduction25/03/26 06:16 PM
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They don't need proof. You may see through the BS but the next guy sees their exploits and envisions himself having similar success and throws cash at them. He literally sees someone with higher "value" than himself(in HIS mind) and wants to buy the magical formula. This is proof that value is in the mind of the observer. It's not something you can objectively measure. The magician has high value because he performs impossible feats. In reality he's a con artist, but he has objectively the highe…
/r/seduction25/03/26 06:57 AM
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The thing you and OP are both missing is that value is in the mind of the observer. Value itself is not an objective quality, but it has objective characteristics. That sounds antithetical if you really think about it, but it's true. I can fake confidence while pissing myself internally but if I do a good job convincing the crowd, the room congratulates me with high status. This is why bullies have high status.. inside they're scared little children, but if they can physically dominate someone t…
/r/seduction25/03/26 06:44 AM
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Every girl has an individual trajectory. Your job is to read her state/compliance and adjust accordingly. As you gain experience you will get better and start to recognize patterns and you'll know intuitively.. some girls with fuck in 1-2 hours, some will trip you up, some are just fkn weird or have trauma or bad experiences and need more time or need to say no first to see how you react.. some are ice queens and will show 0 interest while secretly hoping you make the move anyway. Some girls nee…
/r/seduction25/03/26 04:44 AM
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It's counterproductive bc 1. It's very hard to do properly and maintain, body posture and physiognomy is a HUGE part of it and most guys fuck it up and 2. It's not effective everywhere and at ALL times. I absolutely walk like that and adopt the general body language -- the mistake most guys make is you're not angry or pissed, you're AMUSED and you present mastery over the environment in a deeply relaxed and masculine way. That is POWERFUL shit and women intuit it immediately. Most men react to i…
/r/seduction25/03/26 03:56 AM
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They're ALL odd theories? Interesting take. Almost every single one of those is valuable in the appropriate situation. Pick one and I'll tell you why and how I've personally used it in my life for benefit bc I actually talk to women
/r/seduction25/03/26 03:45 AM
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This is the way
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:29 AM
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Gym chicks want mass, most girls want aesthetic. Slim and handsome is the cheat code
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:18 AM
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This is strong alpha caveman energy that women respond to subconsciously and seeing it for the first time looks like magic. When you kissed her and gave absolutely zero fucks she instantly reevaluated your position in her worldview. Her changing states like that was your green light to keep escalating. It's a risky gambit and could have blown up in your face, as well as tainted your friend group. I'd tread lightly from here and don't be surprised if she acts weird around you now
/r/seduction19/03/26 01:52 AM
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Theory is great for developing a framework but that framework will be dogshit until the individual refines it through rapid mistakes and eventually, success. My framework is fkn solid FOR ME. For you it might not be. The point for beginners is to not get too wrapped up in theory, I've seen it paralyze too many guys and it becomes another excuse for not approaching on top of all the other cognitive reasons they've constructed to avoid talking to women. My personal take on coaching beginners focus…
/r/seduction19/03/26 01:29 AM
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I have a power rack now so I don't go to the gym anymore but my experience hitting up girls there is that most just want the attention and will eye fuck you and green light an approach just so they can shut it down or act surprised you're shooting your shot. My advice is be more nonchalant and indirect until you know for sure she's interested.
/r/seduction18/03/26 10:10 PM
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1000000%
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:53 PM
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Yea and to add to that.. what MOST guys down on themselves also miss about OLD is that the algorithms work against you unless you PAY FOR THE TOP TIER service. Can you find success without paying? Sure but it is light years easier when your likes go to the top of her queue so she can actually see you before having to filter the 99+ likes ahead of you.
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:51 PM
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Yea girls get in fights with their bf, fb or whoever and do this all the time. It's a very convenient and cute little ego boost for them, a rollercoaster of emotional cheating without any of the actual consequences. And she will feel no guilt AT ALL about ghosting it or even if the guy comes to his senses and ghosts. Pure self-centered vampire shit.
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:47 PM
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For a woman the emotional cheating is sometimes even better than the physical cheating. I've seen this a lot too.. I'll have a normal sequence of messages on a dating app then when I pitch the date or ask for the number she vanishes. You nailed it when you mentioned doing the bold move earlier rather than later to avoid these vampires. If a girl won't give me her number the first time I ask (rarely will I give her a second try unless I have a good reason) then she is unmatched immediately. For m…
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:44 PM
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That last sentence is mostly what I was getting at.. Listen dude, women are ruthless and can be downright cruel when it comes to sex and relationships.. but these limiting beliefs of yourself will ALWAYS sabotage you. In this thread alone there are at least 5 examples of you shitting on yourself hard. Why do you do that? Is it self-pity or do you get attention that feels good that way? Or does it give you the excuse to stop trying? You need to break that negative spiral and cut that shit out. Th…
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:45 AM
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No worries friend! I hate to see fellow men struggling with inner game and shattering limiting beliefs is the only way to grow. Best to do that with a sledgehammer.
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:13 AM
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"I am deathly afraid of being the creepy guy" "I don't put myself in that position" " Women have a right...to not be hit on" (paraphrasing) "No interest in talking to the young" This is very common so I'm going to be blunt: these are all excuses not to approach. When men say things like the last example that tells me they've been shamed in some way in their life for acting on their masculine urges. I'm sure you can come up with a hundred different examples of why hitting on younger women is inap…
/r/seduction18/03/26 01:19 AM
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Why don't you ",like that kinda talk at all"? Why is it uncomfortable to you? If you can't answer that honestly nobody here can help you
/r/seduction18/03/26 12:30 AM
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I keep commenting on your posts doggo bc they are spot on. I'll add my thoughts: the weaker the initial interaction the shorter the timeframe in which you should meet her. IMO you should never plan a date more than 3 days out, flake-rate goes up exponentially as the girl forgets the emotional high of your initial interaction and other guys are constantly knocking on her DMs for a shot and there is always another bright shiny guy for her to talk to. If logistics aren't there and I have to plan so…
/r/seduction17/03/26 07:04 PM
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You're making excuses for her. It's ok my dude, I've been there before and I know what you're feeling. Just try not to get too attached and if there ends up being others don't let it blindside you. Or maybe I'm wrong, I'm just a random internet stranger after all.
/r/seduction17/03/26 06:22 AM
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I sometimes have this problem too, and for some women it's not a problem at all. But what actually attracts them to begin with. Generally speaking though, there are some techniques here. You should probably smile A LOT more and swivel your head around as you're walking as if you're interested in the world. Walking in a perfectly straight line with hyper focus on what's in front of you can be very intimidating, especially if you're approaching a woman that way. Bigtime nono. Instead, you want to …
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:55 PM
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There you go man. Going caveman is better than subservient butler
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:39 PM
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Ask it to make it sound more confident or less wordy.. it's not THAT bad
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:35 PM
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If you really want it get it but don't get it for plates you aren't already spinning. You're not putting "has hot tub" on your dating profile right? Unless you're getting girls over for house parties or social events with an opportunity to close them, it probably won't be much of a factor
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:22 PM
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You showed up, congratulations that's the hardest part. But the overarching theme to your post is you showed up but didn't invest in connecting or put yourself out there in a meaningful way. That doesn't mean it was a waste. It means you moved from step one to step two. And you learned something important about conversations. When you forced yourself to do them, you noticed something right? It felt good. I suggest you lean into that while you're out doing things versus just showing up. Baby step…
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:34 PM
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This is extremely common and the guys it happens to just don't understand until they see it for themselves. Go on YouTube and watch some guys pick up girls. You need to see and understand what healthy flirting and escalation looks like. But very basically, stop being NICE.. be a bit bolder than you think you can get away with. Touch girls. Hug them, tickle them, tease them. Learn to read social signals. If girls are opening you you're probably attractive but not confident. You can still fuck it …
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:54 PM
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Probably a good bet but there are exceptions. One of my first jobs was desktop support at a large healthcare headquarters. Talk about a target-rich environment!
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:35 PM
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Great advice! I'll reiterate -- calm TF down. Suppress that desire to be giddy around her, it will sabotage you. Don't talk about planning dates in the future or anything like that. Basically you want her to wonder if she's won you over yet and your entire vibe should be "I'm not sure if I want you but I like where this is going". If you had the chemistry, she agreed to date 2 and you were touchy feely with each other, you're in a great spot. The move here isn't to try impressing her, it's to ac…
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:23 PM
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Don't send that. Until you can understand WHY that's a terrible message you shouldn't engage in progressing via text. Do it face to face. If you have to send something, KEEP IT SHORT. That will force you to be less wordy and less explainy and less projecting insecurity. Keep it to one or two short sentences. If u can't do it in one or two, keep refining it. Hell run it through chatgpt if you have to.
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:58 PM
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Lmao take your damn upvote
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:24 PM
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You found yourself a hot girl that was high functioning enough to hide her mental health issues from you. Congratulations. A piece of advice -- she's done this before, and often. Have fun and enjoy your turn but don't get attached and for the love of all things holy don't "open up to her"
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:24 PM
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Great post! Regret is light years worse than rejection.
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:12 PM
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This is the correct take imo. Damaged girls or even just girls that have been through a lot of guys (trust me this is most of them, yes even THAT girl you're thinking was different) eventually lose their ability to pair bond and the brain chemicals actually change. It's almost like the brain down regulates the infatuation process. It's unfortunate bc in my experience these girls are almost always very attractive and generally sweet to be around. Due to the combination of low emotional investment…
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:06 PM
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One of my only rules is this: Never go out with a girl that refuses to give her number or move the convo to texts. This may sound old-school but I will literally unmatch 99% of women that refuse. If she won't give me her number or acts weird after I text her, she's either attention seeking or just isn't that attracted and I fkd up somewhere. You can intuit A LOT from how she reacts after you ask this as well. Every good date interaction I've had online.. and I mean nearly every damn one, has hap…
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:51 PM
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The sad truth is most "friends" do not want to see you win unless it benefits them too. Guys get extremely competitive when women are around and even good friends will resort to backstabbing and mate competitive behavior. Couple that with most guys having dogshit game and the inevitable result of winging with them is frustration
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:31 PM
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Your premises are all flawed and this feels like you're selling something. I don't normally engage in negativity willingly but the seduction forum appears to be one of the last bastions of apolitical discourse between men actually sharing opinions and helping each other. Out with your contrived slop heathen!
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:50 AM
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Lol I had the same exact situation happen with the FB group stuff. A girl I rejected immediately went on there to blow up my spot and even included my job information. Hell hath no fury... And it's always the mid girls that pull that shit. But my main girl saw the post and the 30 girls that responded to it and I have to tell you I've never seen her more devoted and loving than after seeing that. One especially hot girl(9 facially) that I actually didn't get with commented without anonymity becau…
/r/seduction15/03/26 08:53 PM
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A few thoughts. If you're getting consistent dates with 7+/10 girls, your profile and messaging game is solid. A 10% conversation ratio is rather low imo so you're likely doing something in person that didn't translate from your profile and initial conversations. Only you can really reflect and answer that but it could be something simple related to logistics. A lot of guys don't think about these things, but there was a post recently about always sitting next to your date as opposed to sitting …
/r/seduction15/03/26 08:40 PM
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Guys love black and white so think of it like a final romance score.. everyone starts at 500. If you get to 1000 she'll sleep with you. Being famous and super handsome puts you at 2000 immediately. Being the ugliest guy in the world puts you at zero immediately. Anything in between is plus or minus to the 500 and all the little aspects of your character and game add or subtract. You can get over 1,000 and then do things to put you back under aka blowing it. Just like you could theoretically lose…
/r/seduction15/03/26 08:22 PM
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Most times it's ASD and occasionally it's trauma. Or yea your balls smell. This is an insidious test that a lot of men fail. The best move is to stop escalating and switch to something logical, put a movie on or music but the most important part is not acting BUTTHURT or like you're a sad boy who didn't get his prize. Zero emotion but don't reward her either. Gauge her reaction and slowly start escalating again and you'll probably get a bit further. Two steps forward, one step back. This is an a…
/r/seduction14/03/26 05:15 PM
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I'm just trying to help man but guys with tons of excuses about how the world is wrong are usually avoiding doing the work to improve. Men adapt to the world -- unless you're Elon Musk you probably aren't going to change Sweden, so change your self-limiting beliefs(feminist country so unfair, dating apps suck so why bother, bars won't work, etc) to improve your life. Or take the weak man option... give up?
/r/seduction10/03/26 09:14 PM
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I'm all about men's self-improvement and inner game, but I have to admit the apps can be ruthless for men. It takes a lot of effort and time to keep up with it to be successful. And for some apps you basically have to pay to even be shown to attractive women. But yes, a lot of men with crappy 5-minute profiles shit on it before putting in the work and give up. Smart men see that as an opportunity to stand out and they deserve that success.
/r/seduction10/03/26 07:05 PM
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For an attractive guy with decent game this should be around 50-75% of dates. Yeah there's always going to be girls who have rules or for whatever reason won't play ball, but most girls should be down by date 2 or 3. Any more than that and the girl is prob just straight up weird and/or has sexual hang-ups that probably aren't worth dealing with later on. Exceptions exist ofc but that is not the norm.
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:56 PM
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Definitely some gray area on this one. I generally side with the "bust a damn move" crowd. Most guys are here bc they don't have the experience or calibration skills yet. For them, being more bold will increase positive outcomes more than micro-balancing the sexual tension will
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:46 PM
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If she cheats, SHE is HIS issue to deal with. Nothing to do with you. He probably won't see it that way but if fighting this dude doesn't faze you, bang her silly. If she's really that into you and it goes well she'll drop him like a sack of potatoes Girls like this are FUN but be careful homie
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:31 PM
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Bro this is the seduction sub so that negative self-image spiral you're in is not going to be met with pity or acceptance. It also repels/disgusts healthy women. Most guys here are going to tell you to man tf up, take accountability and work on yourself if your past results are not giving you the outcomes you desire. Plenty of guides and gurus to learn from around here and on YouTube. Adopt a mindset of consistent self improvement and maybe get your hormones checked. My advice is focus on inner …
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:24 PM
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My friend, the questions you're asking are things you need to iron out for yourself. You're the man so you choose the date. The common theme in your posts is you have a lack of confidence and that is going to show through every conversation you have. If it's showing through here, I guarantee it's showing through your interactions with women. Single best return is to start working on your inner game.
/r/seduction10/03/26 02:37 PM
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No that's his car. Wives are fair game WHEN THEY HO LOOKING FOR STRANGE DICK
/r/seduction10/03/26 02:21 PM
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Stop making excuses my dude. I'm sure dating apps and bars are a thing almost everywhere.
/r/seduction10/03/26 02:18 PM
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The biggest thing I see is guys getting out there, working on themselves and developing their inner game and wondering how to escalate with a girl once they get to the point where they can actually get dates. It's not necessarily about speed, but modern dating requires a certain amount of urgency. Going on one or two dates and not escalating with a girl is generally a recipe for losing her to a guy who will. So I guess in that light efficiency is important but it's not about sleeping with the gi…
/r/seduction10/03/26 02:05 AM
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If they both came out and showed up to multiple venues and you're actually being as charming and flirty as you're insinuating then threesome might be on the table. Believe me, they're both well aware of the situation and would probably have worked about between them which one would come meet you if they weren't open to the suggestion. Normally I would never recommend this cuz most guys are just starting out but from what you've told us it sounds plausibly on the table. If they're following your …
/r/seduction10/03/26 01:53 AM
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He either thought you were attractive too or was warming up his daygame routine
/r/seduction10/03/26 01:41 AM
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The beauty of being a man is it's almost never too late. We don't have the age constraints that women have to contend with and our attractiveness rises the older we get (wisdom, status, resources, experience ) whereas with women it's generally the opposite (beauty, fertility, agreeableness lol). The universe is constructed to allow us an almost infinite opportunity for self-improvement.
/r/seduction10/03/26 01:31 AM
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Yea man that's valid for sure. I used to think being super ruthless was better for my sanity but after learning not to care so much I'm a little less strict with it. There's definitely been cases where I forgot to unmatch a chick that wasn't playing ball only to have her show up a day or two later. But yeah we all have that point where we throw in the towel because waiting around any longer than that just isn't worth it to us personally. And let's be honest, if more men held women accountable fo…
/r/seduction10/03/26 01:18 AM
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This is also what I generally do but I use a sliding scale for outliers.. if she goes silent after the first couple messages, 24 hours most likely.. If I have carnal knowledge it could be a week or more before I consider it over. Women disappear for a lot of different reasons that don't always have to do with you. So calling it too early might lose you some notches, but if it happens before you've consolidated interest on an app, it's likely not going anywhere and better to cut those losses shor…
/r/seduction10/03/26 12:35 AM
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Yea and this is just how the game goes sometimes. When it rains it pours or it's a drought. Either way, you got to keep your toes tappin
/r/seduction09/03/26 11:47 PM
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The two most likely reasons she did this is 1. she's banging someone new and he just slipped into your spot or 2. She's trying to force you into a relationship thinking that withdrawing sexually will make you chase romantically. Given what you've said, it's probably #1 and you should cut all contact. If it's really #2, cutting contact will flip her the fuck out and she'll come running so it really covers both scenarios imo
/r/seduction09/03/26 11:46 PM
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Dude you correctly identified the issue, you're getting too interested too quickly, she sensed it and pulled back. She didn't ghost you.. yet. Your instinct to play it cool is the right one -- you are unfazed by her antics, her pullbacks and her whatever else's. Don't ask her back out right away thinking you're losing her, that's precisely how to lose her. Don't be butthurt but don't be cold either. Give her just a little bit less than she's giving you. When a girl is into she will come with the…
/r/seduction09/03/26 11:24 PM
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Inner game is the #1 force multiplier most guys should be working on. Irrational self confidence will get you farther than any other single improvement you can make and translates directly to all aspects of game that truly matter.
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:49 PM
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This is mostly a myth that guys cling to with an iron grip. Those things help but the biggest part is the confidence that comes with those things. You can fake that til you make it.. never approaching until you hit that body fat percentage or secure that promotion is a great way to spend a lot of time NOT approaching or having the inner game necessary for pickup.
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:47 PM
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The friend has to be as hot or hotter than the people shes hitting up or your preselection is way less effective
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:44 PM
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Agree.. what her friends think is AS important if not MORE important than her initial impression of you. I have plenty of stories where I was working on a girl only to meet her out with a shitty friend that tanked the entire interaction and first impression I carefully and intentionally constructed with my target. Once you get good enough with women, it's all about logistics
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:34 PM
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You also need the RIGHT kinds of friends for pickup. So many times I've seen a group of dudes all vie for the attention of the same girl and it blows up the entire set and none of them get shit because they couldn't get over their competition with one another. Dudes are very very predisposed to this mate competing behavior
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:31 PM
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I only have a quick minute to explain this to you but here check this out...
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:27 PM
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The most common reason not already mentioned is you got giddy and overly invested before you truly solidified her interest. We've all been there. Remember, making out on a date actually doesn't mean very much and you don't "have her" even after sex. You need to sleep with her multiple times over an extended timeline before you can even think of lowering your guard and honestly I wouldn't even do that as a matter of gamesmanship but most especially if she's even remotely attractive. The way datin…
/r/seduction09/03/26 02:00 PM
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This is the most important logistic for any date I go on. To the point where I'll reserve the exact table I want to guarantee I can interact physically with my date. The few times I've been unable to, I felt handicapped bc my style is very tease/joke/touch heavy. I've also actually rearranged a table/chairs/benches to make this happen. The staff won't like it but who cares.
/r/seduction08/03/26 02:51 PM
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Remember unless you're paying for the top tier subscription you are not getting a fair shake on dating apps..like you're literally being gated from the most attractive girls and not being shown to nearly the number of women the app makes you think you are. I blame A LOT of men's current struggles on this fact and it is SEVERELY TOXIC to men's self perception, but these companies simply don't give a fuck how they are reshaping the dating environment in this negative fashion
/r/seduction08/03/26 06:43 AM
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Fake it til you make it. Most everyone around you is insecure and scared of something. Particular to game, it can only benefit you to ACT like you're the best option a woman can get, even though objectively it may or may not be true This is a fallacious comparison. You cannot fake your way into a meritocracy. Without outlier objective talent, you will not get into the nba. Fortunately, this has nothing to do with getting a romantic partner Simple, you improve yourself constantly. You should be d…
/r/seduction08/03/26 06:06 AM
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Sorry this is a bs mindset to take. Women's PRIMARY method of moving on is 99/100 times securing the next guy before completely letting go of the last. Monkey Branching is a term for a reason. There are well established evolutionary reasons related to survival why this is the case. Is it moral? Fuck no but that's not the point.
/r/seduction06/03/26 12:40 AM
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This is a great pragmatic way to look at it.
/r/seduction28/02/26 11:50 PM
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If you're here and just need the actionable understanding of this entire thread, this is basically it.
/r/seduction28/02/26 11:46 PM
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Similar experience as OP.. he is correct. Most of the time these rules are just a smoke screen that absolves her of any guilt or responsibility for what might happen on the date. Sometimes they're tests to see how the man will handle it. Spoiler alert -- "respecting" her rule and taking her on three dates without even attempting to kiss her through some misguided sense of chivalry is 100% the best way to lose your frame, make her lose interest and waste your time/money. And sometimes it can be: …
/r/seduction28/02/26 11:38 PM
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Can't believe it took this many comments for someone to get and explain this. Must be a female.
/r/seduction28/02/26 02:14 AM
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You can't rely on this, at all. Most guys, even great friends, will instinctively revert to competing with each other over the attractive women within their orbit. I've gone out of my way many times to throw a dude a bone. I can't remember a single time it was ever reciprocated
/r/seduction20/12/25 06:27 AM
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I don't recommend future pacing the move back to your place. It puts pressure on her, is less spontaneous/sexy and logistically doesn't give her the plausible deniability magic of "one thing led to another and it just happened" Some good specific suggestions in the thread but ultimately if you're both vibing and you're touching her and flirting and you both feel the electricity, the excuse doesn't matter that much. Just lead her and if you did everything right she will follow.
/r/seduction12/12/25 03:02 PM
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These are all good suggestions. Agree that #3 is high risk high reward, especially for newer/younger guys but the beauty of game is you can adapt it to your own personality and style. For example, #2 is my bread and butter but I often relate it to the girl or to an experience or inside joke we've shared. In truth, if you've done everything right the excuse doesn't matter and she will gleefully follow your lead. But layering game like that can be powerful stuff not often talked about
/r/seduction12/12/25 02:59 PM
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Anyone claiming they have more than 3 full time girls they're ACTUALLY banging on a regular basis is a minor red flag. Possible? Sure, but it's a fukn full time job
/r/seduction09/12/25 05:24 PM
2

Good that you were at least in an intimate mode with her. But you've seen guys hitting on her and you didn't mind.. so you've been friends for a bit and now tried dating? Unlikely dudes were hitting on her in front of you on your 3 dates. These things matter a lot! Was she recently out of a relationship with someone else? Sounds like a rebound fling for her (which paradoxically often doesn't involve sex). If sparks didn't fly the third date, it isn't looking great. Best move is to play it cool a…
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:04 PM
1

Are you adding comfort and DHV into the conversation in-between sucking her face? Even if it's just a ONS she wants to get a sense of who she's about to leave with. Some girls will just fuck sure, but to raise your probability of success inject some comfort/vulnerability/be a human being
/r/seduction08/12/25 07:59 PM
2

You left out important details. Did you kiss her at all? If not, why not? Was she fun and flirty the first two dates but standoffish the third? Her "wanting to settle down" doesn't mean she won't have sex with you. Every LTR I've ever had started with relatively quick intimacy that catapulted the momentum of the relationship into the stratosphere. This is why most most men recommend intimacy as fast as possible. Every girl is different and it doesn't always work out that way. But speaking in gen…
/r/seduction08/12/25 07:51 PM
24

This is unfortunately true most of the time
/r/seduction05/12/25 09:55 PM
3

I and many guys I've talked to have also experienced this. This is the matrix revealing itself lol.. it's all just a simulation so why give one shit what anyone thinks? Irrational self-confidence, outcome independence and pure tenacity are the greatest skills a man can have
/r/seduction05/12/25 09:54 PM
1

You're young mate, and just out of a four-year relationship.. With time the experience will come. The best advice for you is to stop caring so much. Really truly believe it. Amused mastery is key. You're literally above the rejection and you're amused by girls antics. That's the mindset. Approaching girls in the club is different than approaching them in other places. Women get dolled up and go to clubs because their value instantly increases by walking through the door. It's fairly likely you'r…
/r/seduction04/12/25 03:08 PM
3

Bro you're 21, you're not running out of time. Slow down, enjoy the ride and don't whip yourself into a tailspin about women or hooking up or proving you're X or Y or Z. That's a MASSIVE trap. Being able to approach girls, you're already ahead of most guys your age.
/r/seduction04/12/25 05:22 AM
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This is one of the most notorious and reliable tests women throw at men. She'll wait until just before sex happens and then throw out resistance. How you respond can 100% dictate whether you smash that night or not. You should be EXPECTING this every single time. If you get pissy, bent out of shape or thrown off kilter she's going to dry up instantly. The winning move is to be non-reactive and slow down what you're doing and then ramp back up. Two steps forward, one step back is the mindset. Eve…
/r/seduction02/12/25 03:44 PM
2

How are you friends with hot girls and not MORE attracted to them. Never quite figured that one out. I want them all I guess
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:52 AM
2

Flirting should naturally involve touching.. no not groping, think tickling, hugs, pushing her off you, handholding, etc. If you're vibing with a girl doing those things, you find the least awkward moment to kiss her. Some girls will make it easy, some girls will make it difficult. Most are somewhere in between, but with practice it becomes a piece of cake. Once you get there everything is possible and it becomes more about logistics and isolating her. Don't be afraid to be a bit bolder than you…
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:34 AM
4

Having just gone through this with a younger girl, the way to win her over is to play it cool, take her on fun dates (doesn't have to be expensive), fuck her well every time you see her and care a good bit less than she does. Zero neediness, stoic texts, go multiple days without texting her. Occasionally cancel dates with her with somewhat flimsy excuses. Never ever ever mention the other guys. Insinuate that you're dating/fucking other girls. You want to always be one step out of her grasp. One…
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:06 AM
0

The pills can work and help alleviate the pressure but it's just a bandaid. Stop drinking alcohol immediately and get your hormones checked!
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:59 AM
6

He's saying the girl will mention "sure I'll go with you but we're not having sex" when she knows full well that's likely what will happen. It's an ego saving move by the girl so she can test you and not seem like a slut.. also so she can always blame you for what happened
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:33 AM
2

Coming on time and putting on makeup is not super high interest per se. That should be part of the bare minimum. Several things here.. talking a lot means absolutely nothing if you're not escalating the interaction in a meaningful way. Talking for hours but never moving things forward is usually a bad date at worst and friend zone at best. We've all been here. Bad date locations and logistics can also make this worse. Please stop worrying about overbearing her, like don't awkwardly jump from tal…
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:27 AM
3

You don't have a scarcity mindset, you have desperation which is the opposite and women can smell it a mile away. This is an inner game/social issue. You can fix this with some tenacity and a willingness to "crash and burn". My practical advice is to change how you're viewing your interactions with women. Stop thinking "will this be the time I get laid!? I better be on my best behavior and not insult her" etc etc and start just having FUN with them. You bump into a cute girl in the grocery store…
/r/seduction13/11/25 02:41 PM
1

2 & 6 is where I see most guys dropping the ball
/r/seduction06/11/25 06:52 AM
1

Attraction for a man is your ESSENCE. It's the SOUL of the man (no not in a religious sense). It's your personality, how you view the world.. how you stride through the mundane struggles of life without a care. Your ENERGY and how you penetrate others with it. The deepest character traits you possess and how they come through in your body language, tone of voice and mannerisms. The part most men fail at is not with possessing these things.. it's how we are taught to communicate them that is all …
/r/seduction05/11/25 06:04 AM
1

Just to riff off of this... walking away from sex is a complete power move. It basically says, "I value my character and principles far more than quick satisfaction and I can't be manipulated by sexual withdrawl". How many guys do you know that would have the willpower to walk away from guaranteed sex? Most guys go into heat the moment sex is on the table. Women know this and will throw out tests to see if you stay congruent or start pandering and making concessions when the lay is right there f…
/r/seduction30/10/25 10:01 AM
16

Regret is always worse than rejection.
/r/seduction28/10/25 06:43 AM
1

See boys, the male bestie is always angling to dip inside his cute female "friend" lol.. but no for real, if you want to risk tanking the "friendship" you have with her, that's your call. Couple weeks after the breakup she'll be the most vulnerable and receptive to possible shenanigans. You're both relatively young so you could likely shrug off an embarrassing sexual encounter, but keep in mind if things go south she could tell ppl you know and likely isolate you from whatever friend group you s…
/r/seduction27/10/25 11:56 PM
6

Males, everything short trimmed. I use a #1 guard on a trimmer on as much as possible, if you're privvy to barber speak. Bonus points if you shave your balls, but at least trim the damn thing. Females, shaved. Personal preference not financial advice.
/r/seduction24/10/25 07:35 PM
1

The short and disappointing answer is you can never truly revert to being "yourself" with those calibers of women. You have to always be locked in or your value quickly drops. Anything approaching a 9 is truly a mini-celebrity due to the amount of attention they can generate in a single day anywhere online If you're truly 1%, my advice is to target a little lower on attractiveness and you'll have a little more success. I personally target 7/8s with a great figure (I'm weird and facial beauty isn…
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:55 PM
2

Love it. I'd be cautious with the compliments until you know what you're doing. This guy is obviously past that point but as general advice compliments can be pitfalls and they aren't necessarily required. As he stated, depends on your approach and her level of interest.
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:41 PM
1

Agree with everything with the caveat that all three must be in proper proportion. Being overly sweet or overly funny will have the opposite effect. Think the nice guy or the class clown. Roissy said it best back in the day: Amused mastery.
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:22 PM
10

Another post? Again, never limit yourself or your beliefs by being a "rules" guy. The same way a woman will lose a great guy by clinging to baseless ideas like "no sex before the fourth date" -- you will lose women that are feeling your vibe right out of the gate. And those are the ones with high probability of turning into passionate FWBs/LTRs
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:19 PM
1

I'm saying sex on the first date isn't inherently "bad". There isn't more likelihood that she'll "keep coming back and hitting you up" if you wait. I understand the thought process here, I've been doing this a long time. I'm not trying to argue, but you're thinking with theory not experience. It depends on the girl. If she's giving me bedroom eyes and we're feeling the electricity, not capitalizing could lose her immediately. The way is always in shades of gray and almost never in black and whit…
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:12 PM
1

Attractive guys with good game are successful anywhere, but I agree coffee dates aren't the best for most guys. Drinks will always be the best first date idea IMO. Why would you assume first dates will be sexless though? Literally all of my long-term girlfriends have come from passionate first dates that carried momentum into future interactions. I don't advocate being a horndog, but some women will really like you and will sleep with you quickly. Now that women have tons of options just a swipe…
/r/seduction24/10/25 01:10 PM
4

You don't want to get sloppy so I'd say adjust to your personal tolerance to get the benefits but stay frosty. For me the sweet spot is 2 bourbons or tall beers. I prefer petite girls and they tend to drink less, usually only 1 girly drink, maybe 2 the whole date.
/r/seduction23/10/25 05:22 PM
6

Spot on and very similar to what I do. Once I get the girl on the date it's smooth sailing. Pet angle is great because you can isolate to your place or hers, depending on logistics
/r/seduction23/10/25 05:16 PM
2

Don't try to read her reactions like a crystal ball. There are so many reasons why she could have acted one way or the other. Guys with experience know that women can act completely different on a first date but still sleep with you later on. This is art not science. The only true test is how she responds to you afterwards and how excited she is to see you again. Pitch a day 2, focus on comfort and connection with her and dial back on the horndog behavior in public
/r/seduction22/10/25 06:36 PM
1

Exceptions don't disprove the general rule. So many "Nuh uh cuz this one time..." Pls just stop simping and/or being an emotional tampon
/r/seduction22/10/25 06:03 PM
3

It matters. The OkCupid female preference statistics show that very clearly.. just focus on being the best version of yourself whatever your race may be. Confidence trumps all.
/r/seduction21/10/25 08:55 PM
1

I see you took that personally.. but you're right, he should declare his undying love and stand outside her room with a dozen roses and a boombox blasting tswift. That'll work out great for him /s My advice to you is stop thinking so black and white
/r/seduction17/10/25 06:41 PM
0

6 active situations is not sustainable if we're being honest here. For me 3 was the limit and that was a full time job. I'm going to go against the conventional wisdom and say don't break up with anyone. Dropping everything for this one girl is going to put you in a very clingy/needy mindset and you'll likely push her away. Being seen with other women is not as big a deal as it seems. Pre-selection is a thing and you're not at fault for what you're doing before this girl enters into a relationsh…
/r/seduction17/10/25 04:11 PM
5

Had me until the toes but to each their own!
/r/seduction14/10/25 06:59 PM
7

Much like all dating, this will vary based on the individual woman but for me the best methods dealing with age gaps (both ways actually) are owning it when she brings it up (most will) and LEADING her. By owning it I mean, when it inevitably comes up in conversation, acknowledging it but making it very clear it doesn't faze you.. at all. Don't bring it up yourself (this happens a lot with older guys trying to be cute and tease younger girls and it backfires on them) but when faced with this mys…
/r/seduction13/10/25 06:41 PM
2

This
/r/seduction11/10/25 05:59 PM
5

You don't have to be an asshole, but it's better than being too nice. What is absolutely essential, is portraying very very plainly your ability to WALK AWAY. You can fake this but to really up your game you need to BELIEVE IT. Most men are evaluating a woman's beauty and finding reasons and ways to bring her in and win her over, when what they should be doing is evaluating her for reasons to walk and finding subtle ways to communicate that her beauty alone won't win you over. If you deal with a…
/r/seduction11/10/25 05:54 PM
4

First paragraph, 100%. Many good things to glean here. Notice how he's not smiling the entire time but still joking and escalating with her and riffing off of what she says to create situations where he can progress the interaction physically, like when he hugged her after the sad breakup story. Gold. He got zero resistance and so he knew he had the green light to slowly and methodically increase the intensity, which he does. She never flinches.. this is how you know because she won't tell you. …
/r/seduction11/10/25 02:06 AM
2

Zero contact. If it's a test, you pass. If she's deciding between you and some other dudes, you're now the mysterious one who didn't chase, you pass. If she got the ick about something you did that probably wasn't even that bad, you walk away with dignity which may actually intrigue her, you pass. 40% chance she randomly reaches back out within 2-3 months with a "Heyyy". In the meantime, you're gaming other girls and you pass.
/r/seduction11/10/25 01:17 AM
1

Whatever tf this is pls stop it
/r/seduction10/10/25 01:57 PM
6

Ask her about her cute single friends.
/r/seduction10/10/25 01:30 AM
3

She's playing the game and throwing out tests, this is a good thing. She's attracted enough to consider you as a potential mate. If you chase you lose, the advice about mirroring her is good. And great move scheduling multiple girls and not accepting the day change. All the reasons she'd do that are not to your advantage. Now for the hot take -- if you agreed to sushi just pay for it bro. I'm a big believer in not setting artificial boundaries right off the rip. Sets the wrong internal mindset i…
/r/seduction10/10/25 01:17 AM
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I struggled with this as a young guy but trust me, if you can hold her hand and lead her and she is responding in a fun and positive way, you can absolutely turn that into a kiss. If you can turn that into a kiss, you can shift the dynamic into a you + her together situation. Then you can build comfort and she will gleefully participate. You can do that, you can get her to go somewhere isolated with you. If she goes somewhere isolated with you, then seduction is possible. As far as practical adv…
/r/seduction09/10/25 04:16 AM
14

Too much black and white thinking here. This is highly context dependent. The high probability play may be to walk away, but if she's still reacting to you positively, it may have just been too soon for her. If you're getting indicators of interest, she seems into your vibe and the energy is there, it's fine to keep pushing. I wouldn't try rapid fire kiss closing but it's not a 0% chance like others are insinuating. But absolutely still go approach other women too after you part ways.
/r/seduction09/10/25 03:49 AM
3

If I'm in brain fog mode (often these days) or drunk I use it to sanity check or suggest alternate wordings, then decide what sounds best for myself. It's often an amalgam of the two
/r/seduction29/09/25 06:40 PM
1

"I could make you feel younger again" is a great line. Enjoy the ride for what it is.
/r/seduction24/09/25 03:02 AM
1

They completely missed the point
/r/seduction21/09/25 04:21 PM
8

Married or not. Boyfriend or not. It's not your problem. If the woman is out cheating that's on her and him. If I caught my girlfriend sleeping with another dude, I wouldn't get mad at the dude. That's ridiculous -- of course some guy is going to want to bang a cute girl. It'd be 100% on her. Never understood beating up the guy in that situation while the girl that did the actual cheating looks on, it makes absolutely no sense. Same with the moral high ground.. like what if she doesn't disclose …
/r/seduction21/09/25 02:43 AM
6

This is the absolute perfect answer.
/r/seduction21/09/25 02:04 AM
2

Don't worry most of these are tall tales or the girls were swamp monsters, but quick lays are possible. My personal fastest, not including travel time from the bar we met at to her place, is about 25 mins. Other one (knew within 5 mins from picking her up it was on) was less than an hour. Best sex of my life, 2ish hours. Still banging that one years later, we just CLICKED. All first meets off dating apps, mostly tinder back when it was actually good
/r/seduction21/09/25 01:36 AM
1

To be clear I want you to succeed but if you continue this gleeful smitten teenage day-dreamy shit there's a high chance you are going to lose her. Dial that waaaaay back man. I'm assuming by interest you mean she's flirting with you in a sexual way. Older women don't beat around the bush. Man up and invite her over for something that is very clearly not a friendship activity.. dinner fits the bill. Best if she comes over and cooks FOR YOU. Have wine at the ready. You have to break the friendshi…
/r/seduction20/09/25 07:52 PM
3

Stop caring about shit like this. Truly stop giving a single fuck.. even if she asks, if you exude an attitude of not caring about it (or any silly little thing she might bring up) I promise you she won't either
/r/seduction19/09/25 04:18 AM
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Phone number* Fixed it.
/r/seduction19/09/25 04:15 AM
72

"talking and slowly vibing with a chick for months" I understand not wanting to be too overt and poison a social circle dynamic, but damn homie. At some point you have to put your chips on the table and bust a move. Imo sneaky fkr game is way too high investment and low probability. Fighting your way out of the friend zone is not where you want to be. Other guys (yes your guy friends too) can sense your intent with her (so can she by the way) and will move in on you if they sense you're not capi…
/r/seduction19/09/25 04:06 AM
1

Options = Instability.. aaand she's 22
/r/seduction19/09/25 01:41 AM
59

That's kind of.. weird
/r/seduction01/09/25 02:45 PM
3

Glad to hear that friend. While I've personally had some success with the intellectual property dispute route through Facebook, ime it is slow and by the time they get around to enforcing action the proverbial damage is already done. I'm not sure where you live but in my area a large portion of dateable women are members of these types of groups. Unfortunately the only requirement to join is that they're female, so you get the entire spectrum free to comment anonymously about any guys posted. Th…
/r/seduction27/08/25 07:37 PM
12

With the rise of the AWDTSG Facebook groups and Tea app this is becoming much harder to do. Even with just casual hookups, there's going to be salty women looking to blow up your spot. I've been posted to my local site several times and my job mentioned directly and while it hasn't caused any professional blowback yet, I could see how someone with a public reputation could suffer severe damage from that kind of revenge posting.. and that's exactly what it is, revenge posting.
/r/seduction27/08/25 05:50 PM
4

Most guys can't pull this off but it's pretty simple to explain actually. She's anxious and insecure and he's emulating the actions of the aloof high value male with options. It's hard to believe when you first see it in action or if you're young, but this is absolutely peak attraction at work that may seem to some like black magic. In this situation she will be the MOST sweet, loyal, loving, thoughtful and sexually submissive that she can be. The women I've had in this type of deal are basicall…
/r/seduction20/08/25 06:51 PM
21

Every guy needs this metaphorical bitchslap to the psyche that finally sets him on the correct path and attunes him to the true nature of our fairer sex
/r/seduction20/08/25 06:21 PM
0

Some women who have experienced trauma or abuse will act like this. Basically they're terrified of men but she showed up to the date so that says a lot. As I mentioned above, your best bet is to play it cool and if she gives you another date proceed as if the failed kiss never happened. You'll win major points by not trying to force her into anything intimate. A girl like this will jump your bones when she's comfortable. That said, don't waste a bunch of dates and money on someone who might be c…
/r/seduction16/08/25 06:06 PM
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My date to sex ratio is better than 50% and it should be in the current dating market. But don't listen to my advice just because I'm claiming that or this dude is claiming whatever. Learn game, master the basics and get out there and internalize it in practice
/r/seduction16/08/25 06:03 PM
5

No girl is going to tell you in that moment if the date went badly in her eyes or if she's not feeling your vibe. Look at her actions.. she turned her head so either she led you on (not typical), wasn't ready or you hamfisted a kiss close. Some girls are bad at signaling their openness to kissing. Most aren't. This is a setback and it may not go anywhere but it's not completelyyy over. Although I'd be surprised if you didn't get the "You're great but I'm not feeling the chemistry" text. If she g…
/r/seduction16/08/25 05:59 PM
3

I'm currently in this exact situation. I've been posted before but as you can imagine these scorned women only post the negative, never the good stuff. And spoiler alert, some flat out lie. I have access to the group and I can identify almost all the women posting but some are just completely random and complete lies. That doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's wrong with these groups. The latest one didn't post until after I had ghosted her, right before our date because she barely met m…
/r/seduction12/08/25 02:33 AM
2

This.. and agree that the best usually feel like a whirlwind sweeping you both up in the passion. But if I'm flirting and doing kino and still not feeling the sexual tension or her restrained interest by the second date, I'm out
/r/seduction05/08/25 03:19 PM
4

I see a lot of dudes pointing out exceptions and that's slightly missing the point. It's about general advice for the average dude and playing your percentage points(and protecting your wallet) over the long run. There are many potential tripwires to manage in a forced setting like a dinne date. Drinks, in any form, is usually the optimal choice.. especially when you're taking new girls out consistently.
/r/seduction24/05/25 10:21 PM
1

Wasting breath my man. This has less to do with you being wrong (you're not) and way more to do with avg dudes not understanding the multiple threads inherent in a comment like this coming from a woman. Women get it intrinsically but men need a certain amount of experience and, sorry to say, brainpower to see the complexity
/r/seduction01/05/25 11:28 PM
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Could have been anything but my guess is trauma on her part. I'd wager she's been abused and something triggered her. I've been in a very similar situation... cute voluptuous blonde, fun flirty date, back to her place and she was all about it.. got LMR right before penetration, so played it cool, tried again later and just as I was inserting (gentle, not forceful at all, took time to put a jimmy on) is where it went weird... she suddenly stopped moaning/talking, turned her head and just laid the…
/r/seduction29/03/25 03:28 PM
1

You didn't say what prompted that statement from her.. if she's loving your vibe you win by not getting butthurt or backpedalling into any kind of verbose diatribe that breaks the magic. Said another way, you communicate your outcome INDEPENDENCE and that it doesn't affect you if sex doesn't happen by being non-reactive. You can back off slightly but 9/10 you just continue escalating. This shows you're a man in control of your urges and let's her know you're not just a horny meathead that might …
/r/seduction08/02/25 10:04 PM
3

Best answer.
/r/seduction25/01/25 04:58 PM
1

If it's not a huge hassle, definitely go. You're young and building up these experiences is invaluable early on and sets you up for so much success later. I recommend young guys prioritize experiences with women over "saving time", even if she ends up being a dud
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:42 PM
1

^ this, any logical reason should suffice since hopefully you've already done the work and she's feeling you. From personal experience, if the date has gone well and ideally I've kissed her (not required but harder if not) I usually say something along the lines of "Let's have a glass of wine at my place" / "My dog just texted and needs to meet you asap" / "I'd love to meet your dog/cat/rabbit/pig".. yes a girl had pigs and I met them
/r/seduction20/01/25 01:11 AM
6

This
/r/seduction15/12/24 06:02 PM
331

Regret is so much more painful than rejection
/r/seduction02/09/24 08:07 PM
2

The best way to alleviate these concerns is to develop a system. For example, send 3-5 msgs and then ask to move to texts (compliance) or if you're feeling the vibe and she is too (she'll make it easy for you) just pitch the date. Be confident without being a dick. Sticking to the system will absolutely help with avoiding time wasters and fence sitters. Adjust as necessary with experience. Above all treat your time as your most valuable resource, bc it is!
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:30 AM
3

We are in very similar boats. What you're witnessing and feeling from the dating market is not your imagination. I've been doubting myself and inevitably falling back on "I just need to keep leveling TF up" which from your post seems like the same conclusion you came to. This is obviously unhealthy in its essence, but is likely to be the driving force of the success you've had up to this point. Essentially it is tenacity which in my opinion is the greatest of virtues. I don't have all the answer…
/r/seduction01/06/24 06:16 AM
0

I agree OP needs to reflect on this miss but jfc dude chill TF out.
/r/seduction24/05/24 01:49 PM
3

Kings, it's about pursuing the optimal play.. not exceptions. We have all had dates that defied conventional wisdom, but you will do best over the long run by playing the percentage points. And the girls scamming meals WILL fool you, theres no fool proof way to screen for good intentions. I just recently saw some shit about a plane Jane that hasn't bought groceries in 2 years.. fuck that chick
/r/seduction30/01/24 11:39 PM
1

OP wasn't toxic at all. And this is in the context of the initial courtship exchange, and not necessarily applicable to relationships or long-term friendships. The longer you're in the game, the more cutthroat your framework gets for how to manage cold leads and feet draggers. For these frustrated or new guys out here, it's beneficial to adopt a cut and run strategy early on, which fosters and cultivates an abundance mindset (even when theoretically being soft rejected). If there's one thing tho…
/r/seduction21/01/24 04:15 AM
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If you're among her top choices, she'll let you know. A little nuance there. If you're not, expect just enough attention to keep you waiting in the wings. Women absolutely keep backup dudes this way. OPs advice, and I agree, is to cut these women out quickly. Save your sanity, dignity and most importantly, time. Some guys may want to hold onto these fence sitters and follow up routinely in the hopes her top choices fall through (whether they realize this dynamic or not). It's a personal choice w…
/r/seduction21/01/24 03:53 AM
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