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Cue "but women attempt more!!!111!" as if that's somehow worse than actually dying
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/23 05:34 AM
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I'm sorry I genuinely don't understand how you can ask this without literally being a literal, clinical psychopath Do you not have any empathy? If you do, it must only extend to women or something. Men are people too.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:44 PM

You would be held legally responsible for your actions in basically every other area of life when black out drunk. Black out drunk and drive? Your choice, your responsibility. Black out drunk and shoot someone? Your choice, your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:11 AM
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We do know that since husbands are legally held responsible in cases where their partner cheats, and the kid is provably not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:45 AM
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She's just making up whatever narrative she can to make the existence of this sub fit neatly into her existing worldview.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:59 PM
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Feminists think mensrights MUST be a hate movement, because deep down they recognize THEY are a hate movement. And if they are, we must be too.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:38 PM
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Do you get charged $500 a year extra for car insurance just because you are male? Hmm?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:35 PM
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This person absolutely hates that other people are denying her experience and denying her struggles. Meanwhile, her entire fucking existence is dedicated to denying the problems and struggles of 50% of the population. What. A. Hypocrite. But it's absolutely par for the course with feminists.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:31 PM
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Male on female rape is criminalized. (As it should be, to be clear) Meanwhile female on male rape is literally definitonally excluded. And female rapists of both men and LITERAL MINORS are rewarded with 18 years of compensation. THAT'S the real fucking rape culture.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:27 PM
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Honestly I feel like putting a spotlight on posts and behavior like this is one of the best way for mensrights advocacy to finally gain traction. Seeing shit like this is exactly how I got into the movement. I used to identify as a feminist before this kind of bullshit hypocrisy was so glaring I couldn't help but notice.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:25 PM
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People like you
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:21 PM
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You don't appreciate that your struggles aren't acknowledged. But here you are, denying the struggles of literally 50% of the population. That's the core issue here. No one was ever denying yours - they just took offense to you denying theirs. Did your parents never teach you to treat others how you want to be treated?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:19 PM
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Yet here you fucking are, actively fighting and arguing for hours to deny every single way in which men might have it harder than you.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:16 PM
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The statements he is making above apply to men broadly as a group, including racial and sexual minorities. You are only projecting "CIS WHITE MEN" only because it easily and more comfortably fits your bias and narratives.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:15 PM
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Would you tell a black victim of violent crime "BUT THE VIOLENT CRIMES ARE HAPPENING BY BLACK PEOPLE"? No? Surely you would recognize it as bigoted right? It's bigoted when you say it about a gender too.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:12 PM
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To be clear, men as a group are comprised of more than just WHITE men. These same issues affect black men, to an even more severe degree.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:10 PM
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To be clear, the existence of mens rights adocates does NOT mean we are not saying your struggles don't matter. We literally only exist because feminists can't acknowledge that OUR rights matter. Most people here identify as both mens rights advocates, and womens rights advocates (but NOT feminists, for exactly this reason). mine apparently do not matter. The absolute fucking irony to post this while denying that mens rights matter.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:07 PM
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Bit too personal for me to answer, especially to someone being so hostile and aggressive. You have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 04:21 PM
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I don't live in Canada, buddy. And I was literally treated for cancer on medicaid in the US. Have you been?
/r/MensRights08/03/23 04:16 PM
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Yeaaaa gonna disagree buddy. Taxes are by far and away the most efficient way to fund things like schooling and healthcare. I say that as an american living in a country with universal healthcare right now. There's a reason the country I'm in now has like 5 years extra expected life expectancy over the US. Also btw when I was on medicaid in the US... in a state that didn't deny additional funding... it was the best healthcare I had ever had stateside. Never had to pay a dime.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 03:45 PM
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Think about the implications of what you're saying dude. Imagine you've had a stable happy relationship for 20 years and in the least year the sex life has died off, you are no longer happy. You are saying there are functionally no way to discuss this without raping your partner. The only acceptable answer is to just leave. It's patently ridiculous.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 02:08 PM
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Think about the implications of what you're saying dude. Imagine you've had a stable happy relationship for 20 years and in the least year the sex life has died off, you are no longer happy. You are saying there are functionally no way to discuss this without raping your partner. The only acceptable answer is to just leave.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 02:06 PM
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It's not forcing. It's having an adult conversation about expectations and needs in a relationship IMO.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:59 PM
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I wonder how exactly you approach a dead bedroom situation then? A dead bedroom situation essentially boils down to at its core: sex life needs to change or we are incompatible
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:50 PM
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The problem is that different women have different ideas of where it's acceptable to approach or not. If you listen to everyone, you will get a comprehensive list that includes literally everywhere. Just go with your comfort level, try to use your best judgement, and drop it if they don't show interest. My rules: Not at work (don't shit where you eat), not if they have earbuds in, not in any situation where they are obligated to be polite to you (for example, if they are currently working).
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:48 AM
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I got in an argument with a feminist here recently about how the reason I don't support free feminine hygeine products is because where is feminist/female support for getting rid of discrimination on car insurance rates. It was like 3 hours of arguing to get them to understand the incredibly basic point. Society is only interested in removing all gender-specific life expenses for women, not for men. I'd be happy to see free feminine hygiene product, actually. But it would have to come alongside …
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:43 AM
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Don't bullet points 1 and 2 fall under "coercive rape" that feminists basically have been the primary proponents of expanding the definiton of rape to include in recent years? Like there's /r/twoX posts and /r/deadbeadroom posts claiming that saying you'll end a relationship because the sex life is dead amounts to rape.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:37 AM
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Also I would argue that the moment you tell a group of people that oppression against them (men, or white people for example) it's oppression and is explicitly acceptable, they instantly become a systematically oppressed class.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/23 02:46 AM
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Hmm. I see your point then, there is some hypocrisy in having high standards for who you are attracted to but then getting mad when women do the same. I do think the overall message that body positivity only extends to women is correct, but not for the reasons OP states (womens attraction standards). I had some difficulty understanding your criticism in the kind of collapsed format of your first comment. My personal thoughts on the matter are that no one should be shamed for their sexual prefere…
/r/MensRights06/03/23 03:18 AM
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No, my issue is with your comment The comment above does not link body positivity and individual sexual preference. You see a contradiction because you see body positivity and sexual preference linked. But there are actually 3 components, not two. These are: 1) Body Positivity 2) Society wide sexual preference 3) Individual sexual preference The comment above says: Body positivity is OK!(Component 1). There's someone out there who likes any body type (Component 2). But it's not for me (Component…
/r/MensRights06/03/23 02:44 AM
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Not really an issue. I'm all for body positivity, but it doesn't control or override my sexual preference. You are overweight and happy and feel pretty? Great! Love it! More power to you Whether I personally am attracted to you, is a different and unrelated matter.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 01:14 AM
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Did you watch beyond the first sentence? Because I did. The problems i mention with the video come later in the video Dude...
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:56 AM
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You are defending the video dude
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:54 AM
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Can't believe you think this dogshit content farm style video is good content for this sub anyways. Look at OPs posting history, its filled with this kind of crap linking to similar videos on the same channel. Half of them have been removed because its obviously some kind of click farm
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:47 AM
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Can I find you a video... in the whole of the internet... that disproves the strawman bullshit this video OP linked is making? Yes, sure. But I have better shit to do with my saturday.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:43 AM
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Ok, it's one thing to say that having a career now can mean trade offs in your personal life. I think thats something that even feminists would agree with. The misogynistic part is that this video tries to tie in that these women are getting mad at men for it (I don't think that's true) and implying that they should have just not had any career ambition, and stayed home barefoot and pregnant. And now this is what they get for daring to have a career. Should have just let an alpha male get them p…
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:31 AM
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I'm an MRA buddy, look at my post history before you make a fool of yourself This video came off as though it was made by a bot or something. Super low effort, and a message that borders on actually misogynistic IMO.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 02:17 AM
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This was a useless, dogshit video tbh It comes across as shaming women for having careers or waiting to have kids, which I don't really agree with.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 01:56 AM
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I don't have an issue with them wearing revealing clothing. You do you. But you don't have the right to get mad at other people for having eyes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/23 12:20 AM
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"We only count rape accusations as false where the woman is charged, prosecuted and convicted in a court of law of making a false report to police. Also by the way we have made it incredibly systematically difficult to prove it was false. We know that every other rape accusation is true, because reasons." FTFY
/r/MensRights04/03/23 12:17 AM
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At this point, misogynist is just something you immediately get called when you disagree with a feminist. On any topic. For any reason.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 11:53 AM
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When we say how we feel, we get accused of trauma dumping or causing emotional labor.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 11:05 AM
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I think the reason people here get a little prickly is because the kneejerk reaction to just default assume that men cannot be the victims of women - that other men just must be the ones doing it. Maybe use this conversation as a reason to look internally and check your biases.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 10:45 AM
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And who has a 5 year shorter expected lifespan (not them)
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:40 AM
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Maybe the cancer ate the logic center of your brain, I don't care how much you disagree with someone, what kind of garbage ass person says this to someone
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:11 AM
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Maybe the cancer ate the logic center of your brain, Literally fuck you. I am doing no such thing. The people who are ignoring others that have issues are the ones who say this happens exclusively to women. What the absolute fuck is your problem
/r/MensRights01/03/23 12:42 AM
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Sorry you think my delayed cancer diagnosis and lived experience with my pain not being taken seriously is a gut feeling. Shithead.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 10:51 PM
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So if I were to go in and say like "my leg hurts bad" he'd probably do a quick assessment then send me to get "x" testing done, even with the possibility that it wouldn't get results we needed. If they are sending you to get testing done, they are largely doing their job IMO. The problem I am noting here is they rarely/never do so.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 03:41 PM
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I have never heard "misdiagnosis" complained about. I have only heard claims that doctors are actively ignoring or not listening to their issues, or downplaying their pain. Leading if anything to lack of diagnosis due to lack of care. The same thing that happens to me.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 03:16 PM
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If women don't want sex or relationships, they are empowered, strong, independent. If men don't want sex or relationships, they are creepy, dangerous, incels, a problem to be attacked and solved. But wait... if men do want sex or relationships they are also creeply, dangerous, incels, or a problem to be attacked and solved too. Literally can't win.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 12:26 PM
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You wanna have kids, you better be prepared to support them, regardless of your gender. Have you considered that men have no input into this? For women, consent to sex is not consent to parenthood. They have options at every step of the way 1) Far more birth control options to prevent pregnancy in the first place 2) Abortion if those fail, and 3) Give the kid up for adoption without even notifying the father, or drop the kid in a fire department. With neither of these incurring child support pay…
/r/MensRights27/02/23 11:22 AM
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I agree, but it's difficult to take action when society immediately shouts you down as a hateful or terrible person for doing so. Part of what needs to happen first is a destigmatization of discussing men's issues. And conversations like we have here are how that happens.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 04:03 AM
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Not having a degree can show lack of passion, interest, drive though. It's not a perfect stand-in, there's always room for nuance. But it's a very useful "first filter" that applies accurately in I'd guess 95%+ of cases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 04:01 AM
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True to an extent. Personally I do feel that degrees mean something - it's a general metric that shows whether someone has their life together or is able to commit long term to something difficult. It's not the only metric, but it's a fairly useful first indicator. Personally I have a masters, and wouldn't date someone without a bachelors (though my girlfriend is getting her phd and has finished law school). Personally it would just be difficult to relate to someone who didn't have a similar edu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 03:24 AM
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My ex literally swept the floors every single day. If we had lived together, we would have ended up contributing to statistics like this. Making men look lazy just because I think it's unnecessary to sweep the whole house literally every day
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 01:21 AM
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I mean I don't think the guys working at burger King have money or status
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 01:06 AM
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Besides which, the 18 years of labor associated with child support is a massive physical and psychological risk. Would bet anything it has something to do with our average 5 year shorter lifespan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 09:05 AM
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The physical risk of pregnancy to men is the 18 years of labor we have to put in after or else be sent to debtors prison. Could have something to do with our 5 year shorter lifespan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 09:04 AM
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Great point. And they go through insane levels of mental gymnastics just to deny our lived experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 09:02 AM
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Yep if men were financial rewarded for 18 years for raping women, you can be damn sure feminists would include it in their rape culture talking points. And it would be one of their best arguments. But because the shoe is on the other foot... not a peep This is the real rape culture.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 05:01 AM
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You are living my anxiety. Fear of getting someone pregnant or ending up with child support dominated my 20s to the extent that I pushed away every meaningful relationship. While I do regret that to a large degree, I also have to be thankful that something worse didn't happen. I'm sure it's not much consolation, but stories like yours are why I became interested in mens rights. I don't personally expect things will change in our lifetime - but if it does, this it how it will happen. By people li…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 12:08 PM
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Feminist abuse: Literally trolling and posting hateful comments in a thread about the lack of sympathy for men with autism.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:50 AM
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Lol I thought they always said "toxic masculinity doesn't mean masculinity is toxic. It just means some aspects of masculinity can be". Now they are saying the idea that "masulinity is not toxic is" is a conspiracy theory. Pick one. Can't have both. But that's what we always knew it meant.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:42 AM
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Yep, and if you do open up you get accused of trauma dumping or causing emotional labor.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:33 AM
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I've literally seen some discussion from women condemning male birth control because (paraphrasing) "the man could say that he's not on birth control when he actually is and that would be rape" -> The meaning of this being: It's rape for him to take away her chance of getting pregnant from sex (resulting in no children) Like... fine. But then you need to be willing to accept that women lying about being on birth control (an exponentially worse situation actually because it can result in an unwan…
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:29 AM
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So are we allowed to comment on female birth control now?
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:25 AM
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They say this anyways, but where are the initiatives to get men into female-dominated fields?
/r/MensRights25/02/23 09:22 AM
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How is my comment also not disingenuous? Maybe because you were having a conversation with someone and brought it up right after he brought up his concerns. What logical person wouldn't assume they were related?? That's also as far as I will reply here given you seemed to have reported the previous comment for personal attacks (where the hell was the personal attack in that??)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 10:05 PM
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Yep, men would rather stay in with their hobbies than put in an effort and put themselves out there only to be told its not enough, or worse, laughed at or called a creep. What's the upside exactly? Losing half your assets 10-30 years later? Yeah thanks ill just marry my craft instead.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 03:14 PM
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I feel like women equally focus on equality at the bottom of society, with sex workers' rights, domestic violence, voting rights, beauty standards, etc. I guess I'm wondering: what can be tangibly done to address incarceration rates, work death rates, homicide rates, low life expectancy, and drug death among men? I want to highlight all the ways this is doublespeak and disingenuous. You probably said: I feel like women equally focus on the equality at the bottom of society because /u/thepogopogo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:38 AM
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Why not use this as an opportunity to check your biases? Instead of having a knee jerk reaction at the name of a group, why don't you look at what they are actually doing with their actions to inform your opinion? Something tells me even if you saw for example a "white group" and they were "intended to help make white people become less racist" you would still rage against it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:31 AM
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You are missing the point - I have had a vasectomy, as I have stated multiple times. This comment chain is about how if you get married and your partner cheats, and it is provable by DNA tests, you will still be on the hook for child support.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 03:27 AM
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What laws make men vulnerable to false allegations? And do they only apply to men? There has been an undeniable push by feminists to lower the evidenciary standard needed to convict someone for sexual assault or rape. It is true that sexual assault/rape is a crime that is unfortunately, due to its nature, very difficult to prove. But that does not mean that we can or should lower the evidenciary standard for this specific crime, because if you do innocent people WILL inevitably have their lives …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:26 AM
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Feminist subs literally delete posts recounting male sexual assault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:21 AM
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Low male enrollment in college? You don't think that gender quotas or gender-specific scholarships that explicitly exclude men could contribute to this? Or the VERY well documented female bias in K-12 education?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:18 AM
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By the way, do you realize you are commenting in a mens rights advocacy subreddit? What do you think this is if not "men banding together to address these issues?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:13 AM
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The usual feminist response to this is either one of two things 1) Feminism is for mens rights too - if it is, then why do we see comments like yours? 2) So go make your own movement to address it - but when we do we get immediately villified, shouted down, called racists, sexist, and concern trolled by the same people who told us to make our own movement I think I speak for eveyone here when I say: Just. Fuck. Off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 03:11 AM
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/u/cranium_internum with another garbage take. Must be another friday morning.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:49 AM
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Hm. I guess I don't personally think the inability to find someone is my concern. I just have a very high underlying level of anxiety about the potential to end up with child support. Trust aside, it's a numbers game. No one goes into marriage expecting it to fall apart, but 50% do.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:01 AM
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..? Are you a bot or something? This is nonsensical
/r/MensRights23/02/23 02:40 PM
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Is this a quote from the youtube video? Don't really understand
/r/MensRights23/02/23 02:38 PM
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Maybe. Maybe many are without realizing they are part of the MGTOW movement. Personally, I actually always wanted to get married. But I have also always known I never wanted kid so I got a vasectomy. Actually, the fear of accidentally having a kid/child support gave me so much anxiety in my 20s that I pushed away every real relationship I had. The vasectomy has been a real game changer in reducing that anxiety, but thats kind of beside the point. Since becoming (more) aware of mens rights issues…
/r/MensRights23/02/23 02:26 PM
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Intersectional feminism falls flat in that it repeatedly and consistently fails to apply intersectionality critically to both men and white people (for example, applying class to either of these groups in any real way, or considering that not all white people have historically been a priveliged class - the irish -) in the same way that it does to any other group. If intersectionally were evenly applied it would be one thing. In fact, it would be incredibly valuable. But instead we see endless co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 02:01 PM
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Agreeing to disagree does not mean that you agree with my opinion, jesus christ.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 09:53 AM
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Just gonna have to agree to disagree. IMO it's hypocritical. Especially when they want men to join them in their boycott of rowling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 09:46 AM
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It's hypocritical to be mad at the exclusion of a group based on their gender identity, while simultaneously being the reason another group is excluded based on their gender identity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 09:36 AM
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I'm not asking for men to be housed with women But these same people often protest the existence of or funding for any male-only DV or crisis centers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 08:53 AM
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This but also men are the victims of the same kind of exclusion from shelters - and mostly at the hands of the very same people asking us to be mad on their behalf. (Feminists, not Trans people to be clear) No, sorry. Not how this works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 08:46 AM
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In my experience, TERF and non TERFs are totally aligned in their opposition for male shelters. However, I can only point out hypocrisy here on behalf of the non-TERFS. TERFs are at least ideologically consistent (with respect to this one issue).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 05:29 AM
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Follow the link in my OP And you have 100% missed the point of this post if what you got from it was me thinking Trans women are men. The point is hypocritical outrage at the denial of crisis services to a group, while being one of the main reasons it's denied to another
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 04:27 PM
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I was aware of both. Personally I consider the crisis center to be a bigger issue than some tweets - and the discussion I've seen centered around it is the same. Weird take, man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 02:39 PM
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This is kind of missing the point though. The point is that the people mad at JK Rowling are mad that they are being DENIED access to shelters. Your post would make sense if it was the other way around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 12:04 PM
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I mean the lazy way would be just to link you this thread on r/askfeminists, where the most popular answers all support male shelters I have already addressed this: I don't really think I would trust survey answerers responses though even if one were conducted. SO many feminists self-profess to be "for mens rights too", but we all know what that actually looks like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 12:01 PM
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I'm genuinely asking here: Are you confused? You are the one who has been going on and on about surveys, not me. I am telling you to go conduct it because if you care, you can. I don't personally care - I think you are just bringing it up as a way to neutralize discussion on tendencies that any of us can pretty clearly observe in the feminist movement. By this I mean, there probably isn't a study out. And if neither you nor I will conduct one; what is your point in asking about one apart from sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 11:59 AM
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Please, feel free to conduct said survey.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 10:56 AM
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Well, I'm gonna guess not. I don't really think I would trust survey answerers responses though even if one were conducted. SO many feminists self-profess to be "for mens rights too", but we all know what that actually looks like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 10:27 AM
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I mean, I'm not gonna go survery feminists about whether they are hypocrites. You can, though. If you are so inclined. Anyways will be curious to see if others share your view on 3rd wave feminists being broadly supportive of mens rights and mens shelters. My thought: if they were, we would have more than the what 2, maybe 3 shelters we currently have nationwide in the US?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 10:22 AM
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Whereas the trans-women-are-women type 3rd wave intersectional type would oppose the Rowling shelter and support the men's shelter. All I can say is I really, really disagree with this. You might find an occasional one talking about mens rights, and an even RARER one actually doing something about it. But the vast majority are out there with the rest, shitting on men every chance they get.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 10:06 AM
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7th type: Halal Snack Pack
/r/MensRights20/02/23 12:04 AM
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Know one knows what the fuck the context of this was buddy
/r/MensRights19/02/23 11:59 PM
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Don't you think this could be because statistically men were historically more likely to be in positions of power? Literally selection bias
/r/MensRights19/02/23 02:54 PM
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Fucking lol
/r/MensRights19/02/23 02:24 PM
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My strategy for drives like this was always to tune into the local Christian hate radio station. Can't fall asleep if I'm pissed off.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 01:08 AM
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You have shittons of posts and are here every day dude. People just find you abrasive.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 01:00 AM
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I'll say what I wanna say
/r/MensRights18/02/23 10:34 AM
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Kindly fuck off, thank you
/r/MensRights17/02/23 02:07 PM
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I don't understand why they think this is a good point to make anyways. Would you tell black victims of violent crime "but another black person is the one who shot you, so it's your fault"? It's like the 13/50 talking point alt right wingers use (incorrectly, I want to stress) against black people. And left wing feminists don't see how it's the same because in their mind it's fine to talk like this about exactly one group: men.
/r/MensRights16/02/23 02:19 PM
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As someone who did move away to asia (but long before I was interested in mens rights), I think you will be disappointed to find similar problems exist all over the world. Here in Korea for example, men and feminism are at each others throats almost far, far more than back home in the US.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:12 PM
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Thats what I'm trying to say though. It might be time to step back and question why you thought that
/r/MensRights14/02/23 12:51 AM
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Upvoted for the productive conversation. It's true of course people should of course practice contraception. But as a man, literally all we have (short of permanent surgery) is condoms. Condoms can fail, and if they do it's 18 years of financial slavery. And It's not even like taxes where they just take a percent of your income. It's more severe - it's a set dollar amount every month, leaving you with the inability often to quit or change jobs for fear of being literally sent to debtors prison. …
/r/MensRights12/02/23 12:14 PM
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I don't know. I struggle with men being first because even when roe v wade was the law of the land, the paper abortion and mens reproductive rights movement had ZERO support from feminist groups or women/society writ large. So as much as I wish roe didn't get reversed, I don't know if I will personally be willing to vote for or advocate for abortion rights. I wouldn't have said that a couple of years ago. But my experience with feminists and women being so vehemently against mens rights made me …
/r/MensRights12/02/23 12:00 PM
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Yes absolutely.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:51 AM
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Single people are both able to adopt and able to go to a sperm bank and get pregnant. They are not prevented from bringing a child into a single income household. Giving men the rights to paper abortions during pregnancy would just leave the woman in this same situation. It's not about what happens with the baby. I do not avocate for men being able to force women to terminate. I am just against the financial enslavement of men for 18 years for the very human crime of having sex.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:31 AM
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Don't pro choicers get pissed when pro lifers tell women that pregnancy is a consequence of sex? At least try to stay consistent.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:18 AM
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Sex is widely considered to be not consent to parenthood for women. It is considered consent to parenthood for men. That is the disconnect. You will get even pro choice advocates telling men "you should have kept it in your pants if you didn't want kids". But if you said that exact same thing to a woman, their brain would explode. That's the point. The man should be given a chance, during the same window of time a woman could abort, to renounce all rights and responsibilites. Treat it like a spe…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:17 AM
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Some anti feminists might, but I don't believe the MRA as a whole tends to. Most people here recognize there are issues that affect women. But we can't get feminists to recognize at all that there are issues that affect men. This is why many of us are antifeminist - not because we hate women, but because of the pure hatred and vitriol we see them treat the entire topic of mens rights with.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 11:14 AM
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You just failed to engage with literally anything I wrote. Why? Is it because you are unable to actually think critically and refute it?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:16 AM
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Try to think critically a bit. Society understands for women, and only for women, that consent to sex does not equal consent to parenthood. The paper abortions movement merely seeks to make that right equal for both genders. Children do not have an inherent right to a two-income household. We can see this in the fact that single people are allowed to go to sperm banks, and that single people are allowed to adopt. There is no opportunity for child support in either of these cases, yet they are no…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:52 AM
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Single people are allowed to adopt. Single people are allowed to go to sperm banks. The concept of paper abortions also usually dictates the man would make the decision within the allowed abortion window for the women. She can then decide whether to become a single-income parent, the exact same as the two cases above. Or are you advocating that the first two should not be legal? Try to think critically a bit.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:46 AM
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Just telling the truth about male birth control. The fact is we have FAR fewer options, at every step of the process. And you are just in here lying that condoms are flawless. Get fucked, liar.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:32 AM
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Hey, come back coward
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:11 AM
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No, you are just straight wrong about this. All forms of birth control can fail. And as a man, you could take all these precautions and still be assigned child support if someone else gets your wife pregnant, even if a pregnncy tests proves it.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:06 AM
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Absolute bullshit. Condoms, and even vasectomies can fail and when they do you are a financial slave for 18 years
/r/MensRights12/02/23 08:21 AM
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Except having sex isn't a crime. Answer my question in the other thread - do you apply this same standard to women, or are you a sexist?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:33 AM
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No, I'll support their cause when they support ours. And I've already seen that they won't support our cause. It's their responsibility to show us support first this time.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:31 AM
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Do you apply these same standards to women? If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to keep it, do you say FAFO? That's what you get for having sex?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:30 AM
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This is a pro life talking point that pro choice people only take when it applies to men. I am pro choice, and consistent with my pro choice values for both men and women. That's what sounds fair to me.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:29 AM
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Yeah and the majority of the Supreme Court once ruled a different way. So you'll forgive me if I think it's not exactly clear. When you say "it's not a good law" it's functionally the same as you saying "I think it's not a good law" If you don't see the relevance fine, skip the fuck over it. I was trying to head you off on thinking I'm a feminist or some shit just because I support roe (which many of the more right wing MRAs might think)
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:15 AM
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Not sure what your point is with this. Women had their half of the circle complete and did piss all to help our side. Now half of the proverbial circle is 25% complete and they want us to fight for their other 25%. Its not us that needs to show solidarity. It's them. We've seen how they behave when their half is fully complete - they continue to trash our needs.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 06:01 AM
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There were also a number of legal experts who thought it was a fine law - including the majority of the Supreme Court at the time it was passed. I mentioned I'm an MRA so you can more clearly understand my personal position on the issue.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:56 AM
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Bigot
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:54 AM
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No one thought you meant monetary cost.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:54 AM
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There is no cost to tolerating someone else's literal existence. Impinging your own beliefs is a bullshit argument - you aren't forcing them to get surgery or get gay married.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:47 AM
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It's not an endless circle, because until last year or so they did have the rights to abortion. And they did fucking nothing. Half the circle was already complete.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:35 AM
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As an MRA, I think it was a good law and am sad that it was overturned. But I've decided I won't help abortion rights get passed again unless feminists and women more broadly decide men are deserving of the same protections. Consent to sex is either consent to parenthood for both genders or none. We already had roe passed once and they did shit all to help us get our rights too. Either it'll be a package deal next time or nothing.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:16 AM
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Hmm I have to disagree on this one. Take for example one of the big "tolerance" related issues facing society right now - gay and trans people/rights. Asking you to tolerate their existence does not take anything away from you. And frankly if you think it does, I think you're a bigot.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 05:12 AM
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Alright, I don't feel that you answered any of my questions there. But if you feel over debated on it, that's fair. Personally though this comes off as unwillingness to answer a question because it is inconvenient to your beliefs.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 04:37 AM
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I am sorry to hear about your situation. But I want to ask with respect to this: nfanticide is murder & ppl who commit it belong in prison. Also, abortions aren't an easy fix it button. It was incredibly hard to go through... he felt none of the effects, or dealt with any of the consequences (bc biology). That's why women, not men, should have the "extra" choice of abortion. Do you think 18 years of child support is easy? It's not. Many men literally choose to eat a bullet because of it. Persona…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 04:35 AM
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Meanwhile I want you to answe my question you conveniently ignored: what is your position on single women getting sperm donations? Or single parents adopting? Do you think this should be illegal because it puts the kid in a single-income household?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 04:23 AM
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Adoption mostly requires the consent of both parents This is blatantly false. Because the mother can essentially choose to not notify the father of the pregnancy or the birth. He (and the state) would have piss all way of knowing he is the father. The vast majority of states do not conduct a search for a father in such circumstances. Meanwhile I want you to answe my question you conveniently ignored: what is your position on single women getting sperm donations? Or single parents adopting? Do yo…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 04:20 AM
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Damn, you mean all the women got together and changed our society and laws to be anti men? That's pretty much what feminism did, yes. Ever look into the duluth model?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 03:39 AM
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Honestly I just disagree with this position. Childrens rights to money should not override mens fundamental human rights. Rights to bodily or financial autonomy (read; the right to not be enslaved). I want to genuinely ask - what is your position on single women getting sperm donations? Or single parents adopting? Do you think this should be illegal because it puts the kid in a single-income household? Paper abortions would give pregnant people the option to decide whether they want to raise the…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 03:05 AM
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It really feels like you folks always assign simultaneously the most charitable possible interpretation to women and the least charitable possible interpretation to men. . Prior to roe vs wade being overturned, at least in the US, this argument could have easily been reversed as follows: 1) Are women forced to give birth? No. 2) Are men forced into 18 years of child support and involuntary labor? Yes. But pre overturning roe, where was the voice for men and mens situation from your side? It was …
/r/MensRights12/02/23 02:32 AM
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And what is always ignored is that forced child support is also a violation of bodily autonomy. How do you think that money is paid for? With labor, from our bodies - bodily labor that you no longer have any choice over. This expectation (or rather coercion) of labor from men could be one of the reasons for our tendency to die 5 years sooner. What is honestly more invasive? A 5 minute procedure, or 18 years of forced labor?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 02:17 AM
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The implication here is the problem could be with you. Your condescension radar might be way overtuned if your default response to explaining something slowly and clearly is "thats stupid and condescending"
/r/MensRights12/02/23 02:00 AM
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Ok so you appear to have entirely missed the point. The point isn't that body shaming is bad. I'm sure everyone here agrees with that. The point is why is she blaming one gender for body shaming her?
/r/MensRights11/02/23 11:45 PM
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I did downvote you yeah. And I would again even knowing this - I don't think that immediately viewing this as condescending behavior is especially healthy. It could just be someone's personality or learned behavior. And I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing at all. If there's a problem here, it's on the receiving end.
/r/MensRights11/02/23 02:28 PM
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Doesn't make it mansplaining
/r/MensRights11/02/23 03:51 AM
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Yep just about every time I've seen someone complain about "mansplaining", the man would have explained it to another man the exact same way. Heck, I've been accused of mansplaining before for simply talking my thought process out. Guess I was mansplaining to myself.
/r/MensRights11/02/23 03:50 AM
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Men under reporting domestic abuse is in large part due directly to feminist-promoted laws like the duluth model, which assumes the man is always the guilty party in domestic disputes. Why would a man risk reporting domestic abuse when the law literally says "arrest him even if HE is the victim"? If this was happening to women, women would be calling it systematic violence and have a term for it akin to rape culture.
/r/MensRights11/02/23 03:24 AM
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Yeah I'm not convinced you can read buddy
/r/MensRights11/02/23 12:49 AM
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This just goes further to illustrate the issues with the believe all women movement. You have feminists like this who legitimately believe that "all heterosexual sex is rape". Do you think the author of this post wouldn't report someone they had sex with? I honestly bet they would. They would consent in the moment then fall back on bullshit like this and ruin his life. And if they did, there would even be physical evidence (of intercourse). The man would be absolutely fucked (pardon the pun).
/r/MensRights10/02/23 05:43 PM
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Can you... read? It explicitly says "dont hate women"
/r/MensRights10/02/23 05:22 PM
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You honestly think not even being allowed to speak on the issue there is better? Wow, fucking turn your brain on
/r/MensRights10/02/23 02:33 PM
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From here on: Much of modern society seems to have been brainwashed into believing that masculinity is a bad thing. You just delved into a mindless rant about real issues, but failed link that to the point of this post. Ever wonder WHY society has been brainwashed into thinking masculinity bad? (And almost everything else you just ranted about) That's squarely on the shoulders of feminism. That's why people here hate feminism. Don't conflate hating feminism with hating women. OR with hating wome…
/r/MensRights10/02/23 02:27 PM
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In my experience, you can often get both of these types of comments from the same person.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 02:11 AM
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Well, they just straight removed it it looks like
/r/MensRights09/02/23 02:33 PM
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I think if you did you would probably be banned almost instantly. But I would love to be proved wrong.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:31 AM
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With respect, this is not what I asked. Have you rolled into /r/feminism and posted about how the blatant misandry displayed there is concerning? If not, why? It's not a gotcha, I'm just legitimately curious. It seems to be a pattern with women or feminists who make posts like this in our sub that they never do so in places like /r/feminism
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:23 AM
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I sympathize with what you are saying - I do think that we should call out this kind of behaviour when we see it. But at the same time, it feels at times like this sub is filled with women or feminists rolling in and telling us we are wrong. How we should actually be talking about our issues using feminist terminology. How our issues don't even exist. How they disagree with our mere existence. Whatever the particular bone each person wants to pick may be. I think there's a time and a place for c…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:17 AM
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