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To shut down misogynistic rhetoric and bring insight to why people behave the way they do. And what OP is describing had nothing to do with women and everything to do with being a narcissist who happens to be a woman. And I think the community needs to realize this before before msny more fingers are pointed where they don't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:10 AM
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??? I don't engage in politics anymore The issue is personality disorder where men are more likely to act out violently and women are more likely to weave an intricate web of lies, and a high rate of overlap. Individual agency and one's inherent power-and responsibility-to regulate themselves is where I point my finger, and discussion about one sex being more problematic than the other isn't happening here with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:45 PM
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No disagreement there, given that context ya the coach would discourage one more. Toxic tough love as enabled by culture is more vitriolic and deceptively driven by a need for control. "You wouldn't have this injury if only you would have blah blah blah"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:53 PM
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I did do a brief edit with an example of what I mean, if it helps aid understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:44 PM
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Tough love can be useful; the kind of tough love which shows you that you're more than you know. Like a fitness coach sternly insisting "no no, ONE MORE REP YOU CAN DO IT!" But what culture writes off as "tough love" is quite the opposite and instead teaches you that you're crazy and need somebody to micromanage or else everyone will be disappointed while your life falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:41 PM
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I don't think identifying specific behaviors is necessarily helpful, though. This is because narcissists are usually able to operate in a pro social manner, because their narcissistic needs are dependent on the inputs and control of others. An advanced narcissist will need to be identified in the character traits that show when life isn't going quite how they want or when you try to assert boundaries with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:41 PM
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Ngl I do get just a little bit irritated when wars are waged against the sexes. In doing this not only are good people erroneously categorized with shitheads, but the real problem flies over reality unaccounted-for time after time again. 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:18 PM
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Yes. The problem is narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:30 PM
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These are the behaviors of narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:27 PM
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Sex hormones and your genitalia function independently from personality and core values. It's a separate entity from the agency of person you inextricably exist relationally with. To get what you want you need to become a dick for brains and find a woman who is vagina for brains; you need to learn the language of androgens and estrogens, and sing the androgen tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:06 AM
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Indeed entitled women prey on high income men. I thought we were all aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:12 PM
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I have zero problem with the reality that men have to offer disproportionately more than women to compete for the best mating opportunities. My problem with what you said is that this literally has nothing to do with what men want, especially when women want the same thing. Prime deflection and gaslighting to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:22 PM
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The stakes are about equally high for both men and women but I guess nobody wants to talk about that 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:34 PM
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Typically it's peak fertility high libido women, if not exclusively peak fertility high libido. These women will also have a preference for genetically gifted men ("Chads") and will feel creeped out by genetically inferior and older men making the dominance moves. These are very picky women, but rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:41 PM
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I never heard of this, but I also say there are some freak of nature exceptions that are bestowed with a never waning libido. Or they're exceptionally well managed HRT with high dose testosterone and growth hormone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:59 AM
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Unless they missed out on satiating that hunger and activating those dormant genes. It's a very empty feeling and excruciating experience that pervades the entire psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:41 AM
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The most remarkable drop in libido was from 22-25, then from 26 to now the downward slope flattened a bit. So there is a difference between now and 25, but less remarkable than the steep dip from 22-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:10 AM
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Or rather, the statistics don't account for a nuance: there's never any talk about suboptimal mental status. This sexual peak is simply the age of liberation and rapture. The earlier this liberation and rapture commence, the higher the peak, and all this statistics prove is that the sexual rapture among women are generally not in sync with fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:03 AM
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3-5 times a day @33 years old 🤷‍♂️ So that frequency is about cut in a third. More importantly the arousal and orgasm intensity is remarkably diminished, subsequently resulting in less interest and satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:55 AM
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I'm naturally in the 800s. Definitely not as horny as I was at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:51 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/10cwvt2/men_on_this_sub_are_obsessed_with_young_women/j4ig31g?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 I guess you missed this comment empirically debunking that myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:50 AM
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Never like a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:34 AM
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So why make these men who are largely an insecure lot even more insecure? Erroneous inference to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:32 AM
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I'm sorry but can you reiterate that? I don't see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:27 PM
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Unless maybe they're slamming 300mg of testosterone a week, and yes I'm getting on that in the near future 😜 Ahhh it is so refreshing to hear a woman to speak out against the grain and tell us ya'll don't really peak at 30. There's nuances involved in that but I'd love to talk about it more. DM?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:22 PM
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younger people are more attractive Case and point I can't speak for every guy here but for me it's not wanting to die missing out on a mutually lustfull, 24/7 DTF tango. Even if a post-adolescence woman could elicit that in me again there's no way she'd handle the uninhibited teenage me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:54 PM
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Ah. Yes. Terrible time to propose to somebody. Best time for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:07 PM
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but observing actual teenagers in relationships reveals it's mainly just awkward Wtf there is nothing wrong with this.....? Terrible case and point, and frankly condescending to label it as "awkward" like that's a bad thing. If anybody reflects on those past experiences and cringes at what they were doing in relationships as adolescents then they need to grace themselves with some retroactive understanding and compassion. Instead of saying "ewww I was so awkward" we should tell ourselves "I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:52 PM
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There's much value in peak fertility desirability. Whether or not your sex life subjectivly improves with time doesn't discount the satisfaction of getting hot and heavy with somebody when you're burning up for it with an intensity and urgency we just don't experience past adolescence. It's a bad time for relationships, but the best time for sex according to neurological and hormonal status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:20 PM
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I just want to be wanted for the libido I used to have and experience the best mutually pleasurable orgasms that aren't possible anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:05 PM
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Why court unnecessary heartbreak? That's not to say that kids shouldn't date. Why court unnecessary heartbreak? That's not to say that kids shouldn't date. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:59 PM
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The psychological impact of this to sll genders cannot be stressed enough. It's literally impossible to reap any self worth as the gender you identify as when you're not wanted for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:40 AM
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Deceitful people don't give you the evidence you need to make that determination at face value, and I have detailed my psychological forensic inferences in another reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:51 PM
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My apologies, I was at the gym....... We also know the content of the dreams, while vaguely eluding to the husband possibly being insecure by contrasting himself with her past partners, and vaguely eluding to possible impotence. Vagueness is a commonly deployed manipulation tactic used by toxic people to elicit a multitude of ostensible realities in order water down the truth of the matter. She used this to obscure the husband's conundrum and his truth so she could sell us a fabricated narrative…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:01 AM
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Whoops, I meant to say "if she was being deceitful". How would this look to you if she was being deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:14 AM
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I am well versed and educated about how disingenuous deceitful work and what it looks like when they're using somebody. I remain concerned about her husband till my contentions are thoroughly dismantled, and whether or not you have already done that is not up for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:12 AM
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How would this look to you if she was being sincere
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:06 AM
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It's not hard to pick up the pieces and construct a logical inference here. And until somebody dismantles the inference I will be sticking with that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:54 AM
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My concern is her husband and the possibility she's using him for residual benefits while silently devaluing his role in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:29 AM
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I asked her to elaborate because it was kind of vague and she had no interest in lending a better understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:19 AM
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she wasn’t looking for advice and some people ignored that. But why doesn't she want a solution? Why doesn't she want to amend the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:14 AM
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The problem is she is vehemently averse to a solution and even regards a solution in contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:11 AM
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Problem is-like I said-she is vehemently averse-and contemptuous-to receiving advice. Also-like I said: she is averse to the suggestion he gets on TRT, and averse to anything that could fix the presented situation. It looks to me like her complaints about him are a blame shifting tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:07 AM
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The guys who complain about this failed to satiate their peak fertility/libido craze. They are simultaneously jealous of women who did, and insecure they aren't as desirable as the guys who got her first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:58 PM
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Me 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:18 PM
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Insecure women get into relationships with narcissists
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:35 AM
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If by high libido you mean 'down to fuck 24/7, 3+ times a day, multiple orgasms per session' then you need to catch somebody younger in prime fertility and liberated. Unfortunately for them [women], so many women aren't optimized during peak fertility years, and unfortunately for men we need to be genetically gifted and have those genes activated.....because these high value, liberated peak fertility women aren't gonna be attracted to somebody average. They may want someone older than them if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:40 PM
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There are valid reasons to not have sex. There are nuances which manifest improved subjective experience later in life for a majority of us which are independent of neuro/bio indicators of libido. Both points, while valid, derail from what we're missing out on regardless of whether or not disappointment accords with our values. And derails from talking about pervading lies and omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:42 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/101ptk3/women_peak_30_it_gets_better_with_age/j2q603b?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 I think this comment needs an inclusion in the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:42 PM
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Sounds like shaming, and more importantly: derailment. His opinion is excellent and a strong case and point that women's libidos are indeed not higher in later life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:39 PM
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Depends on your values and what you believe constitutes quality sex. For me it's all about the raw sensation of it and the performance parameters.....the intensity of the arousal-the firmness of my dick, her soaking before the clothes come off-and orgasm. The volume and force of our ejaculate, the number of rounds in a session and the frequency we do it. These dimensions of the experience are commensurate with peak fertility and optimum mental and physical health. Also less important past peak f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:27 AM
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There is some nuance to this and it depends. In my case I've been extremely meek and only experienced it 5 times with every encounter being bad....ya. Sex I will have from this point out is going to improve. The man I linked you to? No, he's definitely peaked and is on the decline. Case and point: the earlier you peak, the higher your peak is. Ideally you peak sexually when your fertility is also peaked. It's a tragedy the majority of us are sexually peaking after that, even worse that we're tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:09 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/101ptk3/women_peak_30_it_gets_better_with_age/j2q603b?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Boomshakalaka 🙃 I think we have more to learn from the minority. Like, it's astonishing to me that so many young women lack the confidence to chase what they want and reject what they don't. And with some food for thought and encouragement more young women could be having the best sex of their lives when they're young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:38 AM
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Inb4 the status quo comes with the pitch fork mob. Thanks mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:08 AM
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Free younger women of all shame while lending them the food for thought and piece of mind they need for the confidence to communicate what they want and reject what they don't want. I want to correct younger women's libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:05 AM
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Optimized confidence and experiencing a guy who actually cares about your pleasure can certainly make a difference. I don't argue that women experience subjectively heightened libido as 30somethings, but that there's a reason for this that can be corrected in the generations to come. I still argue that the best 30somethings libidos are a bit short of the best peak fertility libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:37 AM
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The two women replying with confirmation and a testament to how horny they were ad teenagers. Now more recently a guy commented stating that his most orgasmic partner ever was his high school girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:37 AM
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There is some nuance to the issue. I find it true that many women also benefit from this mantra due to suppression earlier in their life. Women are often shamed and concede to other expectations not to be sexually liberated, so they-like men-harbor the notion that they also didn't miss out on anything as an ego refuge.....it's really fucked up for both sexes. once the women have lived out their sexual fantasies with everyone, but them. I think this is just a minority-but substantial portion-of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:10 AM
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🤯🤯🤯 Mind sharing more about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:03 AM
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Just trying to talk about what those other two women said 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:37 PM
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So did I misinterpret something or are you suddenly able to have multiple orgasms from dry humping? Or maybe as horny as the two I referenced to were at 17, do you suggest they're somehow even hornier now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:10 PM
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That many of us missed out on the best sexual experiences of our lives because we are in fact hornier as teenagers. This is explicitly evidenced in the link I shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:04 PM
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Did I misinterpret something or are you suddenly able to have multiple orgasms from dry humping?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:01 PM
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What's your weekly TRT dose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:45 PM
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Did you even click the link 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:44 PM
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20 year old women don't generally fancy 45 year old men......
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:16 PM
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Was so sure I'm an autistic incel with brain damage from being chronically stressed day in and day out for the better part of 3 decades
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:17 AM
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So what would you call me having sex only 5 times in my life and frequently sad about missing out on youthfulness And potentially suffering with a damaged brain from being raised by narcissists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:57 AM
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No it's about the experience of libido and satisfaction. Most 30+ women swear by them wanting sex more than ever 🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:39 PM
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In the land of supressed youth, which is tragically the norm. Most women will say that their 30s or 40s was their sexual prime time. I say their youth was shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:58 PM
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You need a woman to sit you down and tell you that?!? We need to stop being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:43 PM
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All incels have options that they reject. Which I'm not judging them for because I understand core values aren't negotiable. What I critique is the misogynistic bandage to deal with their woes as it demonstrates a sense of entitlement and a hypocritical double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:41 PM
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Women aren’t people to them, just objects of desire that unfortunately and unjustly have rights, and are therefore interchangeable This is applicable to men with disorders involving a lack of empathy. Some of them are indeed incels. Many-perhaps most-incels do not fall under this category and simply have the same hypersexual drive as the women they're frustrated with failing to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:34 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/100o46o/incels_should_not_erroneously_categorize_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:23 PM
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Glad we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:09 PM
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You are lacking nuance my guy. There's a multitude of reasons...... Volcel, shyness, lack of attraction are the 3 that come to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:59 PM
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Below average men aren't turning down the advances of sub-stacy women. Unless you're an incel who only goes for Stacy because Stacy makes his dick harder
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:40 PM
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The problem is that men are being lied to about attraction. We're being told women aren't like this, we're told we simply haven't found the right one yet, we're told our expectations are unrealistic, we're told this and that......but we're never told the truth that we're simply unattractive to the women we want. We're never told the truth that the intense lustful attraction we crave is for guys more attractive than us. The reality isn't as fucked up as the lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:32 PM
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At least they aren't mad about past rejections. However that "nice guy" they want now is either 5-8 years into marriage or withdrawn from dating 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:27 PM
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Was gonna say: every complaint about women being so difficult to catch has everything to do with oestrus sexuality in youth. Later 20s her libido calms down and so does the check list. Or you can date the younger women who's check lists aren't so crazy, but then their sex drives aren't so crazy either. These are also the women who peak in their 30s, sometimes 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:52 AM
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Any, and all experiences are valuable. I may have functional impairments in a halfway house and IOP-while my brother is a lawyer who runs with the family torch and still makes excuses for them to this day-but my knowledge about narcissists exceeds that of psychology doctorates who didn't venture off into a specific extracurricular study about narcissists and how they work. And for the record I don't believe this is even a purplepill topic 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:55 AM
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Is there anything inherently wrong with relegating sex to LTRs? What is the drawback exactly? If you're not aware: it's not the will of many of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:34 AM
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I'm seeing a lot of "semi-yes" Has nothing to do with hookup culture or a lack of discipline, and everything to do with a lack of confidence and uncertainty. I've yet to meet a woman who doesn't get attached after sex. And extrapolate your survey into all of life because you're intellectually myopic as fuck. The reality is that quite the opposite is true and women will very often deny the guy a second go and even stop associating with him at all. At least that is my personal experience and what …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:21 AM
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Both men and often don't enjoy it as much as being in a relationship, which is way different than regretting it. But let's assume you didn't read that wrong: it is in no way a man's responsibility to override the consenting party's agency to mitigate regret. Yes means yes as much as no means no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:54 AM
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in our sex addicted hookup culture What?.....just, what? preserve everyone's feelings and social cohesion and help call a truce to the cold war of the sexes. Wtf? I think the current culture is pressuring women to give it up ASAP as a way to enter into relationships This totally misrepresents their intention you create weird dynamics and incentives for men to ghost after "the conquest" or keep women in the FWB/non-committal zone. thus when you add OLD to the mix That's not how any of this works …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:31 AM
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if I had waited I would have probably figured it out before I married him. No, you wouldn't have. Nobody ever catches a cheater like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:19 AM
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The redpill consensus which perpetrates the double standard narrative that women who had a lot of sex with multiple men are all jaded, washed up narcissists who will never give you the voracious enthusiasm you deserve. But of course women becoming that is far more nuanced than "she got passed around by the whole football team in college, bro!"......however the redpill is correct in that many woman will settle with a vulnerable-but established and well off-"beta" for residual benefits with or wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:43 AM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:34 PM
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Because, you know, a person's worth as a human being is entirely determined by their ability to fulfill your desires in the bedroom. Hey now, sometimes other people are very trustworthy and great to be in company with. And if you're over 30 and still inexperienced, well too bad for you, because you're not going to be able to satisfy any woman in heat anymore. Never did, never will. You may be wanted for post-estrus sex, particularly if you have an abundance of resources to offer but there are ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:55 AM
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Many women (and men) choose to transcend what their visceral animalistic instinct is guiding them to do because it does have it's benefits. There are behaviors, saliences and physical characteristics commensurate with high testosterone levels, and unfortunately these behaviors and saliences often don't make for good long term courting in the world as we know it. Because unfortunately these men often have awful personalities under that charm and wit. But these characteristics make an equally visc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:21 AM
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Actually you did, while denying the proposition that such genetic expressions communicate ideal genetic compatibility by making a young guy feel very horny. But the hard truth is that physical attributes do mean a lot in the context of the offspring's outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:07 AM
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Ya because they're insecure about their own lack of experience and it would trigger retroactive jealousy. We all want to satiate our estrus drives before they're gone but few of us are worthy of that. Just glad you understand because better sex later in life is the statistical norm and sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy being told that it's better later by most others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:23 AM
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You also better not be one of the guys complaining about n-counts. Nope. I regularly speak out against them as it's in everyone's nature to test drive multiple partners. I also validate them in that the woman they're trying to marry has probably had better sex with somebody else, while sticking it to them that's how it's supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:17 AM
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The moderator changed it to CMV when I intended this to be a discussion. But I'm ALWAYS open to a change of mind, anyway. you think what you want no matter what is said. Projection. Just because you can't get through to me doesn't mean it's impossible. And frankly I make a GREAT point that there's probably a mental illness lurking in the dark plaguing young women (and some men) subduing sexuality, and if there is we have a responsibility as a society to elucidate this illness and treat it. The e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:04 AM
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I mostly just don't want to be alone with these thoughts and am hoping to culminate a community of others who know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:38 AM
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I thought you were, don't you think you are? Liberated college Lilly is still going to be liberated Lilly 20 years later and I wonder if this really wasn't obvious to you or if you're just playing mind games now, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really didn't know. But anyway, college liberated Lilly will definitely have a stronger libido than Lilly 20 years later. But if she wasn't liberated till later then her libido now will be stronger than then. Because headspace an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:24 PM
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No ma'am, these women simply weren't actualized and acclimated with what they've got till then, which is tragic. It's accepted because the harsh reality that many of us miss out on our prime years is too harsh for most of us to live with. No 30+ year old is fucking like 19 year old liberated Lilly in college. Unless the 30+ year old experienced a sudden influx of dopamine and sex hormones that matches liberated Lilly then this is simply not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:37 PM
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Pretty sure that's the latest, unless you consider a later article found in Cosmopolitan or Thought Catalog-written by an intellectually myopic ideologue brooding over a glass of wine-to be credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:18 PM
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As stated in the study female humans don't experience this in cycles (so, I concede to a tragic typo in my thread title lol). There's a period of peak fertility and peak libido with some menstrual cycle ups and downs, followed by post-oestrus sexuality till death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:07 PM
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Everything that encapsulates the mantra that we didn't miss out on anything. Women are inadvertently told this lie all the time as well, as demonstrated by wide and large acceptece of the idea that women's libidos peak later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:59 PM
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Not enough of us are aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:53 PM
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I don't think you're wrong but the point of this was missed, which was my fault due to autism and ADD totally fucking up the point I wanted to drive home. The point of this being that both men and women experience two different sexual drives: the oestrus and the extended/post-estrus drive featuring distinct mating behaviors and preferences. Estrus mating strategies being all about maximum gratification and selecting the best genes, extended/post-estrus sexuality being more about sustainability a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:48 PM
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So where are you getting it from? The internet, multiple sources, mostly ascertained from contextual implication. Some even explicitly stating that their husband ain't their best, which is commensurate with typical long-term vs short term strategy. "But DisturbedBurger that's probably because he's not as good in bed". If that's true then the woman is an idiot for getting married to a man that's indifferent toward her sexual needs. But these women aren't settling with a guy who doesn't care but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:08 PM
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Obviously not getting this idea from you. But thanks for sharing your world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:22 PM
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Strawman arguments. However I don't disagree with anything you said here. Feeling attracted enough to somebody for a hookup does not infer that intent, but it does infer a characteristic partner selection and mating behavior with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:14 PM
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Hey big boi, how about you get off my dick and actually try to CMV with something robust that challenges and supersedes anything I've had to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:06 AM
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Or maybe he doesn't reciprocate the deed back? Nobody knows as it's not mentioned. It is mentioned, actually. It doesn't instantly mean it's linked to oestrus etc. Unless you go out of your way to create a confirmation bias for this. Highly indicative of it. And for the record you're talking to the guy from PPD that you want to supposedly report to the mods for supposed manipulation or whatever. And I did I'm trying to show you how your own points of view are just that. Manipulation? No, definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:56 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/znpmqt/how_to_get_more_blowjobs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Idk but it definitely explains why our bro here can't get his girlfriend to go down on him like her past partners before she had children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:28 AM
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I thought it was pretty well established that women in estrus are more drawn to men with masculine features that exhibit higher testosterone, such as broad shoulders, deep voice, facial hair, musculature, etc. This is so they can secure the highest quality sperm they can find. Right, but much of the time the pitch fork mob will come to accuse you of being misogynistic, incel or redpill. In all other times, they prefer more feminine and familiar males who are more likely to be caring and nurturin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:29 AM
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but they aren't all that different at 30 Different enough to feel it quite profoundly as I've already said Maybe the edge is taken off Definitely something was taken off. but you can still do hella stupid shit driven by hormones in your 30's. Let's not pretend 30 is the new 20 I don't think the change is significant enough to worry about Whether or not anybody worries about it is going to be contingent upon life values. And I value the sex I missed out on quite a lot. But not as much as somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:21 AM
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Also, what’s up with that word you keep using? It’s kinda weird… https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2394562/ Oestrus?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:06 AM
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You didn't refute anything but derailed and deflected onto something totally unrelated. And I suspect you manipulate others this way on the purple pill debate, as well. Will be having a talk to the mods about you, and hopefully nobody else has to deal with this manipulative shit from you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:36 AM
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I said younger people are more choosy, and they're more choosy because only the top genetic expressions win. And by "win" I mean activate that aforementioned oestrus/lust sexual drive. Older people are less choosy because character traits and life values start to supercede genetic expressions due to the loss of oestrus sexual drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:33 AM
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I'm not arguing about statistics. They're invalid here because there are too many variables (cultural and familial influences for example) which can skew the outcomes from what pure nature would show. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2394562/ That study is what I'm talking about here. A human oestrus study.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:11 AM
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Don't they say women's sexuality peaks during their 30's? Ya and it's bullshit, putative conjecture. I bet your penis still as functional as ever No. Unless the man or woman internalized cultural/familial influences perpetrating sexual shame (including but not limited to), no man or woman is as horny in their 30s as they were 16-23. There are many reasons both sexes would experience a better libido in their later life, but even the horniest aging people's libidos don't compare to the most libera…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:00 AM
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There is no evidence to substantiate this claim besides ostensible anecdotal/empirical word of mouth, which is putative at best. Absolutely no woman will experience oestrus into her 30s and beyond, and the claimed libido peak in this age is more attributed to a lack of reference. Cultural and/or familial influence causing suppression is way more likely, or in other words many women consequently fail to actualize and accept their sexual self till later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:09 AM
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That Mr aging and inexperienced missed out on a lot, and that time is inexorable and unforgiving. Whether or not he missed out on prime male experiences he will need to do things differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:27 AM
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Their dating values shift because they're jaded, but they're not necessarily jaded because they've been manipulated and "played out". Without primal oestrus cycles they are no longer capable of being attracted to so called "Chads", but unfortunately for the inexperienced aging guy this means he will not experience the magnitude of enthusiasm from her that so called "Chad" did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:21 AM
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Even more apparent, and important: is your utter lack of willingness to participate in the case and point, and the passive aggressive communication style to conveniently evade the substance of the issue while effectively adding insult to injury with an egregiously erroneous presumption which paints OP in black.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:25 AM
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More of like you were projecting. Nothing about original post would suggest he feels pressured to date somebody he doesn't want to, and that intent is far too apparent to accidently misconstrue. And now here I am calling you out on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:52 AM
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He's frustrated with his low dating market value. The reality he will never have access to the women he wants is commencing an existential crisis and he wants to rejoice with others in the same predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:31 PM
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but everything to do with them wanting women who are out of their league. This is the self realization that made me withdraw from dating, and I'm not kidding when I say that as men we can literally substitute sexual gratification with life at large. Original poster just needs to replace women with combat sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:22 PM
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Strawman contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:16 PM
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When he blames me for his emotional outbursts This was a moment I realized you're probably dealing with a narcissist. Now, I’m starting to actually believe that the problems we have are actually all my fault. This is what happens when people with a robust sense of empathy live with a narcissist I’ve lost all my patience and now sometimes treat him quite poorly during his outbursts which kind of justifies (to him) that his outbursts are all my fault. Projection and blame shifting, which diverts a…
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/22 02:42 AM
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I don't know where you're coming from with this and what your point is but please elaborate, because I was so sure that I simply inferred a difficult truth and implied an alternative to sexual gratification is possible. Not talked about in OP: I medicate my sexual frustration with altruism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:03 PM
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I’m telling you most women don’t experience that level of on sight raw sexual attraction. What I believe is that it's not necessarily "on sight", but can accumulate with a combination of aesthetics, demonstrations of intelligence and emotional connection/bonding, among other things. So this idea that its not unrealistic for most men is ridiculous. It is unrealistic for most men. They need to be aware of this level of attraction and decide if settling for less is congruent with their values. Imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:54 PM
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That kind of raw sexual primal attraction you’re talking about, where you want to rip each other clothes off and you have to have them right there? Cool, so you know what I'm talking about. We all want that. Some of us are vehement about experiencing this attraction mutually, to the point where we don't feel we're missing out on anything settling for less. I’ve experienced that feeling as a woman exactly twice in my life. Only twice? Better than most of us having never, but that still kinda suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:11 PM
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Because....sexual compatibility is important. Attraction is important. What exactly is on the “inside” that you guys claim is so valuable to a woman she should want to fuck you three times a day? That's subjective, or course. is a submissive sex robot Not exactly sure what you mean by this but I'm imagining a woman chasing a shared fantasy with a narcissist who isn't interested in every dimension of her being. Obligated/transactional sexual submission isn't even sexy. I've personally never enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:32 PM
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I can recall a stand up comedian detailing retrospective jealousy and subsequent insecurity over her man's ex who was leaps and bounds more sexual, and measurably "fun". She resolved the problem with the realization that he was over and done with his ex, but she wasn't. 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:58 PM
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Submission as a harem role is not sexy. Submission as a behavioral outcome of intense sexual desire for a man is primal, raw and extremely sexy. There is no substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:23 PM
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No girl will magically cross your way and like you, that's the most utopian belief ever. You have to do at least something. Met her in a narcissistic abuse Discord server. Said hey I kinda fancy you ???? PROFIT
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:00 AM
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Glad we clarified that. Now to the meat and potatoes of this thread: the lies and omission we're selling sexually frustrated men: how it's devaluing men while subduing both male and female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:50 AM
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Those are two unrelated facets and should not be compared; apples to oranges. There is no this or that. One is an expectation/desired experience, the other implies and ascribes exercising individual agency and prerogative in accordance with life values.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:29 AM
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I reckon this is one of the attitudes that has women so often falling for well-off narcissists, who's lives are in no way a reflection of who they are. And what about the men and women who's potential hasn't come to fruition: still broke and not yet endowed with a robust network? If you ask me they're already worth as much as they're ever be, but simply have little or nothing measurable or tangible to show for themselves except some textbooks, notes, a cheap gym membership and a silver tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:17 AM
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I think that was perspicacious extraction and encapsulation of the OP's ethos. Someone who is young (I think?) so they can experience that first flush of love/sexual surge as older women will not experience a sudden influx or surge or hormones at 30 (I think that’s what you mean?) As stated there are some exceptions, but those exceptions are rare not be exposed to any diminishing effects of culture or repression? And less relevant: I want to compliment that paraphrasing and massage my mind for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:03 AM
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Very few of the men that post here in your situation seem very peaceful in spite of all these truth pills... Because their life is otherwise meaningless and lacking fruition. Well, does it actually bring you any peace to know the truth? Not peace, but, a piece of mind: enlightenment. My peace comes from reinforcing and relishing other dimensions of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:55 PM
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few young couples have sex 3 times a day every day Because of-as stated in my OP: a lack of youth and physical and/or spiritual wellness wanting a woman with male sexuality is another. If by "male sexuality" you mean spontaneous and voracious, then I will also disagree with you and again circle back to a lack of youth and physical and/or spiritual wellness. And to be clear: by spiritual wellness I mean mental health and not being subscribed societal/cultural norms or expectations. I mean to be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:50 PM
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As in getting turned on by eachother's arousal (whoever is aroused first the other swiftly follows up) and enthusiastically pursuing eachother's orgasm vociferously, and shamelessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:24 PM
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telling themselves that women are these pure, innocent beings that are disgusted by sex I'm pretty sure this narrative isn't a held belief but by an inconsequentially small minority of men. Most of us (including suppressed women) seem to just accept that women work differently than men and just need the stars to align/the set and setting to be on point. And ya, sadly a lot of women adopted this belief and ran with it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:12 PM
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My testament is this: we can deal with a harsh reality better than trying to carry ourselves in an idealistic rose-tinted lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:02 PM
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Yes. Now that we have that out of the way, I hope you didn't comment just to criticize my wishy-washy use of semantics....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:53 PM
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maybe get to know women as people first, not as potential sex and relationship targets!" "Yikes, men will literally cosplay friendship in the hopes of being able to ram their dick in someone! " Both of these are true, and neither of these are examples of the intent of good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:40 PM
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This is a life values contingency, which is subject to change. It's rare-and franky dangerous-for somebody to plead to that commitment without prior life experience. Because contrary to popular belief I think it's important to experience multiple partners before settling with one. High school sweethearts who got married before they were old enough to drink often start to feel pensive with brooding uncertainty and apprehension because they haven't solidified any real identity or relationship valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:02 PM
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Because some of us are unattractive, too. And some of us unattractive men will concede to our market value and select somebody with similar market value. Or..... We're a psychopathic, narcissistic predator and see an ugly woman as vulnerable and easy to seduce and control. Or that narcissist will sometimes cheat on a more attractive girlfriend with an ugly woman because that ugly woman offers fresh ego supply to fuel the honeymoon fantasy/fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:22 PM
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Amen C3PO is a bit obsequious and subordinate, but like R2-D2 he's a bro and would totally smash a hottie at the frat party post keg stand blackout. I do agree with OP about Han Solo, though. Him, Obi Wan, Qui Gon and Mace Windu are supremely "alpha". Did I miss anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:31 AM
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Was gonna say Vader is actually beta as fuck and went on a metaphorical school shooting spree (his role in order 66 on Mustafar) because he never fully separated and individuated from his maternal figure. His utter lack of functional principles His infantile, unidimentional black and white world views His arrogance and sense of entitlement (as demonstrated in his petulant passive-aggressive testament against the jedi orders decision not to promote him to master) Led to him getting swept off his …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:04 AM
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Can you lend me an elaboration to that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:35 PM
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I just feel uncomfortable with it as somebody getting older and failing to satiate my now dead wild side. And I also don't feel like I'm missing out on anything anymore. My reason for dating hasn't changed: fulfilling sexual wants by solidifying fantasy with somebody I fancy. What has changed is my desire and fantasy: there is none anymore. What could have been practiced and carried into my adult life now just never came to fruition and instead got buried with the libido the years stole from me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:58 AM
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Are we talking about narcissists and how women fall for them, or just trying to deflect and derail?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:32 PM
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It was a logical inference, ma'am. the persistence to be disingenuous is admirable at least That and everything else you have said speaks way louder than any face value assertion about preferences haha 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:58 PM
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No, definitely not. They are predators who ensnare by placating to emotional vulnerabilities with a facade and selling their victim an idealization. They make you feel like the most wonderful and desirable person in the world and then hold it over your head to keep you on the chase. Is this your preference, the shared fantasy relationship with an impressionable schmuck; a well off con artist? You certainly wouldn't be the only woman to fall for this charade over and over again 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:41 PM
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Narcissists outsource ego functions to others: it is (me) and (you) who are their reflection. They harbor the delusion of importance and are not self assured at all, and this is evident in psychological decompensation when their fuel matrix fails them. Why do you think males who aren’t desirable and struggle to get women have no confidence, esp in dating? An erroneous, myopic presumption at best. I (and many others who are involuntarily celibate) know and own my worth and potential without the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:00 PM
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He knows he is attractive and desired by women This isn't confidence, this is being high on narcissistic supply
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:40 PM
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You don't have look very hard to find women complaining about their narcissist for a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:06 PM
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More of like test driving a car before you buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:38 PM
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if someone you were talking to had slept with hundreds of people, who that not raise an eyebrow for you? Besides wanting her to be cleared of STDs.....no. I literally don't give a fuck. I woman with a history of cheating though? Get tf away from me, ma'am.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:32 PM
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Will try to get around editing this post with a 3rd category, then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:29 PM
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I'm totally indifferent about big tiddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:30 PM
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I can relate to pathological impersonal interactions with others, like there's no actual human experience to share, like your psyche is a menagerie of memories that don't even belong to you.....there's sensory inputs, and other's emotions but none of yours? And you're driven by obligation, and perhaps even guilt, meandering aimlessly as a obsequious slave? And even as you're going through the motions of your leisure time, it's all uninspiring hits of dopamine without any substance/trivial? How a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:56 AM
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Irrelevant. These guys all invariably demonstrate a lack of empathy, and predatory drive. Be it just a phase or lifelong relational dynamics, I lend no justifications or excuses for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:50 PM
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The "bad boy" knows how to supply/placate primitive motivations. They're tempting, psychopathic, narcissistic predators who dissolve humility by pulling strings with a facade, and it's overwhelmingly captivating for the victim who doesn't know what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:43 PM
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Incels will become bolstered narcissists, and possibly single fathers because the women they will inevitably attract are a long term liability and otherwise intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:17 PM
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A passionately angsty testament to the calamity pathological narcissism-and psychopaths-stir up in the world, and a toast to all the broken hearts swept under the rug to bask in misery with the dust bunnies. Would slam a double shot of 151 proof with you over that rant 🤜🤛
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:21 PM
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That's what we want post-adolescence, or whenever the testosterone declines and boundaries between dick and brain become self evident. Most younger men who say that are just masquerading pretense to ostensibly identify as an arbiter of moral supremacy (the "nice guy" stereotype).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:04 PM
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Not women, or anyone, owes us a pity party. Everyone, women included, owes it to themselves to chase the life they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:02 PM
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I have an issue with the assumption that an average man wouldn't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:27 AM
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Once upon a year ago a 7 figure chief of cardiology fell for my broke autistic ass with sole bad mentsl heslth ailments. I broke up with her, she went to the psyche ward for 2 weeks, fucked another autistic dude she met at a coffee shop for two months after who is also rich, still wanted me back which I explained "I have too many problems for this", then married the other guy shortly after. This sounds ape shit crazy but it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:54 PM
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The alpha widow is a woman who misses vicarious self love and sense of self importance the guy provided; the alpha widow misses the validation and/or lifestyle of the ride. Not the man himself. Because "alpha males" as we know them are just narcissists and psychopaths who know how to pull all of the right strings to make a woman as happy as possible. Your sister was likely the vulnerable victim of a predator and doesn't even know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:43 PM
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False dichotomy, I think. There's the "you're hot" treatment, and the "I love you" treatment. If you're lucky you get both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:30 PM
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It's not well documented, but: people who love one night stands are probably psychopaths. This does not include FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:53 PM
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Could have fucked all day as a teen. Now as a 32 year old-well-I'm not sure l, but definitely not all day anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:11 AM
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They got upset and i guess a cognitive dissidence in their heads helped them rationalize it as different because their SOs were men and they were women. Proof they're ashamed and lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:32 AM
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She said she doesn't like to get too wild or crazy because she doesn't want her partner to judge her for her sexual side Fucking bullshit. This is part of why I'm never getting myself into a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:29 AM
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I will listen to the way someone behaves around me, as the OP confirms we all should. All of us, because men lie about what they really want, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:05 AM
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Resulted in distrust, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:35 PM
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Insecurity has absolutely nothing to do with the dishonesty of women. It's definitely not the fault of men that women are like that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:27 PM
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Most men probably aren't, but clearly I was saying the problem is that women are often very untrustworthy because they're so often dishonest about what they really want and like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:22 PM
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Still, in general alpha fucks beta bucks is very real and the beta bucks guy is always getting the shit end of the stick because of his low self worth. Alcohol aside, animalistic sexual attraction is real, intense, and a youth special. I just mainly think we need to stop lying to late bloomers about not missing out on anything. Us late bloomers either need to accept alpha fuck days are over, or get on hormone replacement and hopefully you'll still look young enough for access to the alpha fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:40 AM
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The one flaw I see is that the participants were all likely 22 years old or less. Peak sex hormones and dopamine = lizard brain drive. People in this age group shouldn't be trying to commit to anybody in my opinion. I don't see anything wrong or otherwise reprehensible about this hard truth except that women always fucking lie about what they want. I have a problem with both men and woman who try to make these relationships happen when they're just too fucking horny to not fantasize about others…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:54 PM
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Something the red pill gets right: women are often not honest about what they want because of the pressure of societal expectations culminating shame. I can't trust a woman if she says she's into me. If her ovulations have her looking other ways then she doesn't want me, and she also needs therapy to be more honest with herself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:48 PM
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Something nobody wants to talk about: sexual desire is often bad for good relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:43 PM
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Quality relationships and sex is less about experience and more about PRESENCE and LISTENING. It's about possessing the feelings and expressing them sincerely while observing and respecting boundaries. In essence: be yourself and turn inside out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:53 AM
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👏👏👏 Like a hall of mirrors, but no reflections
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:41 AM
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The best way to get to know somebody is to know their experiences. Since afterall we don't really exist in the present, but we exist on a continuum; so, the past isn't really the past. I also like to think forgiveness is one of the best ways to love somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:47 AM
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I'm not a fan of how anyone can shame anyone for being the horny as fuck animals we are when we're young. The problem is manipulators and the name of love being thrown around like the heart is a game to play and win Also there's a pretty substantial amount of people going through their first "hoe phase" after a 15 year marriage failed, but nobody is shaming them 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:06 PM
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Decades ago nobody had as much access to potential partners as we do now resulting in a priority shift from acquiring a spouse to sexual exploration and satisfaction. I attribute this to a gargantuan increase in selection due to the metaverse's networking potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 05:10 PM
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Ya, wouldn't do it again. Also missing the point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:15 PM
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Ya I'm starting to realize I'm much more of an anomaly than I thought. Like, my libido was absolutely seething, but very selectively. I was a 6+ times a day kind of guy. I'm starting to realize there's more female characteristics in my gender expression than most guys. But I'm definitely straight. I tried a relationship with a trans woman once, and....I just couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:07 PM
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I must be an anomaly then. My issue is the FOMO monster being triggered when anything reminiscent of exploring lost feelings is witnessed. Just today a "best orgasm" thread made me feel kind of sad and worthless as a man. Like "ya I know that feeling, good for you two gett'n it on like animals while you still can". I seeth with both lament, and glee.... because I'm also glad to see other's doing it like that while they can. And no, my FOMO isn't attributes to any specific acts or scenes, just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:41 PM
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I'm talking the emotions involved in some of those "best orgasm" stories. I admit I struggle with FOMO related to that, and I'm sure a lot of others can relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:19 PM
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I guess what I meant to elude to is the qualities that turn young women on so much. And I guess what I mean by "lowering standards" is trading off what turned women on the most for qualities which proceed sustainability. It's unfortunate I think how most of us guys (and many women, too) miss out on exploring that dimension of ourselves and settle with bringing other dimensions to the bedroom a little later on when those seething urges are fading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:59 PM
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Good point, actually. Yes: I was a dick for that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:49 PM
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Once upon a time in teenageland I saw a statistic saying 3x a week is what most couples are doing and I'm like "huh that sucks for them 3x a day is barely enough for me". Lol. I also recently got hit with a mind blowing insight recently: my sexuality has always been more akined to a woman's.....I was never turned on as much by sights themselves, but the way I interacted with the sights in my head, and written erotica always turned me on more than any porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:10 AM
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Though I do think those of us who were crazy horny when they were young missed out if they didn't get it for sure. Tragic in my opinion so few people are doing it good in high school and college
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:41 PM
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I don't experience physical attraction anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:58 PM
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Just before I would have rejected this kind of love because it didn't make my dick throb and have me seething with lust 24/7. Now my dick doesn't work at all if the heart doesn't poke it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:56 PM
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More of like the motor stopped running like it used to and now I can actually appreciate this person in ways I probably couldn't have before. (I have only known her a few months) She's 20 years older than me and her motor definitely isn't doing what it used to, either,. What-fucking-ever, I've never felt so comfortable and secure talking to any other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:42 PM
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Don't we all ideally grow up a little with the flow of time 🙄 Animalistic urges subside and give the heart a little more room to make its voice heard
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:30 PM
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I always kind of attributed spontaneous proactive sexuality with a very high libido. I can't imagine myself from 10 years ago possibly being a reactive sexual type with how crazy my sex drive used to be. Now that my libido is lower my sexual style is 100% reactive, and the correlation is simply too stark and obvious to dismiss. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:57 PM
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Not me. Now that my libido is much lower than it used to be I'm willing to try dating women who wouldn't have turned me on before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:37 PM
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if you're doing your due diligence as a man, your leverage should grow well into your 30's Ya I'm definitely more desirable now than I was 10 years ago. But the tragedy is the lack of urges and proactive drive now. Like, I'm talking to somebody of interest who I love much but like I don't care to fuck her. I'm able to, and will, but my mind just can't run wild anymore....I'm more excited about loving her in other ways TBH. If my libido still had urges I'd probably be very unattracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:32 PM
-1

Sometimes people just date because they got the hots for somebody and just want to fuck 🤷‍♂️ I suggest your sister just plows through FBWs till she knows what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:25 PM
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For me personally I find my standards are decreasing, but that could be due to another issue. I feel like my heart has to make my dick work now-a-days instead of my manhood who was chasing the best genetics and personalities. This also makes sex somewhat undesirable to me anymore, like my attitude now is "we don't need to have sex, just love me however feels best to you and I'll do the same".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:21 PM
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Terrible analogy. Unless you don't care much about sex it's important to get satisfied by somebody who you got the hots for to maintain gender identity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:54 AM
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The only low value men in my opinion are then men who fail to inhabit their lives with any meaning. The men that go to work, come home and don't do anything but watch TV and buy something nice sometimes they can't even really identify with. It's the men with no identity or a good act of having identity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:49 PM
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Because it isn't about getting a hobby as much as it's about getting engaged with life in a way that's meaningful and true to you. It's very attractive, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:28 PM
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Because the value of women was decided by us men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:19 PM
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True story: somebody I know was showing off a guy she's talking to that she's insanely attracted to but said she doesn't want to fuck up long term possibilities by jumping on him right away. I suspect this is the reason most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:04 PM
2

Yezzirrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:38 AM
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For me personally I need an intellectual woman, too. What else do you want besides WAP? If you can't answer that you may be part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:15 AM
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WAP and love is what want so WDYM "what do you bring to the table?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:46 AM
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Not everybody is worthy of proactive sexuality, and if your market value doesn't match your libido then you have to learn to suppress it and settle with reactive sexuality, or hold off on dating till later when your libido decreases and reactive sexuality is the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:30 PM
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Apparently lacking explanation? Or something, I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:28 PM
1

I don't know what you mean by "take it down", but the mods "removed" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:04 PM
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No I don't understand that at all. This post is speaking specifically for hypersexual men that have felt shamed for hypersexuality, and are frustrated with having to hold back because they're all told they need to and that their expectations are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:44 PM
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That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:22 PM
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Uh what? I think that deserves an explanation. Cause I definitely injected a fuck ton of passion into this one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:12 PM
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Men shamed when they have abusive sex Abusive sex? Pretty sure I'm not talking about that, but enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:08 PM
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No, libidos can be very variable, just like how not all men want the same thing. The men who are hypersexual though are shamed and damned for being creepy, or praised for being a Chad. I say fuck that, EVERYONE NEEDS to feel comfortable and wanted with their sexual self.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:06 PM
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If you had more to say I invite you to DM
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:10 PM
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What did you see
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:05 PM
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As somebody who used to have a very high SES but never got to tango with anybody while I had it.....I feel this post so fucking hard right now 😢😭😭 It's true: I have no idea who I am as a man and probably never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:06 PM
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Cause I think it's important for incel mindsets to know that they've likely been rejected because these women don't actually want to cherish a man as much as themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:52 PM
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And most women aren't shitty as far as I can tell. Mainly just the BPD and NPD women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:45 PM
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Or rather maybe these women we complain about are mainly BPDs. Also an implicit message: it reeeaallllyyy doesn't matter what these twisted women think of us (likely everything they feel about their dads but falsely attribute those feelings to others)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:25 PM
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The fuck did I just read? Idk but it looks icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:16 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/BorderlinePDisorder/comments/tibm99/anyone_else_totally_given_up_on_romantic/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:19 AM
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I'm just disappointed women don't do this more often and exercise the fortitude to walk away from a guy they had initially high hopes for. And as a guy I wouldn't even bother asking this question anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 09:20 PM
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Just saying: gender dimorphism isn't the only dimension of interpersonal relations. 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:45 PM
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"Right timing" Right, do you even know what you mean by that? All I see is something that looks like: "I was really horny and more attracted to others and he wouldn't have satisfied me while I was so horny. But now that I'm not so damn horny anymore he will do just fine" Can you honestly say you're giving him the same great treatment as the other guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:58 PM
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What's clear to us is that her man is her second choice. What I do believe is that she chased the other guys for better sex before deciding to settle with lesser sex. News flash: only low value men will fall for an idea that somebody like her is really giving her best to the "love of her life". I'm just sick and tired of men being lied to about FOMO and women keeping their hubands in omission about what they missed out on instead trying to give him that glorious booty call experience the previou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:53 PM
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Ummm men get very hurt when every girl they like rejects them over and over for somebody who doesn't give a fuck about them. And if you want that guy you've been rejecting you better fucking care if you're suddenly gonna change your mind, cause I promise he isn't gonna want you as much as he did years ago especially without retribution. I am way more intelligent than you, very well versed in psychology and I see very clearly how you think, ma'am. You get fucked good by the bad boys and then mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:13 AM
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I'm not derailing to trivial matters. It's super fucked up that women can go running back to a guy after years not giving any fucks about what that rejection and seeing you all giddy and horny for others did to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:43 AM
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but eventually she DID. And it's not okay. It's not okay for anybody to reject anyone for years and only come around after being sexually satisfied by others. If there's no pathway of accountability from A to B it's just bullshit and facades.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:34 AM
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After getting fucked by bunch of dudes who never cared about you like your crush in the first place. High value men don't have patience or tolerance for the ways of insecure women leveraging their looks for an ego hit.... Meanwhile the guy who really cares about you is wondering wtf he's doing wrong and what's so flawed about him, and women like you try to minimize and undermine the toll this has on a guy's mental health like it's no big deal he's rejected his entire youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:24 AM
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someone who just doesn’t like you at first then changes their mind. This doesn't happen. But post wall and waiting at the finish line does again, why are you assuming the worst of her I read her other posts in here and caught her in a lie. I'm also very confident in my psychology, I know human behavior and personality very well and I can do some simple math.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:59 AM
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Do you blame women for falling for narcissists and psychopaths? I sure don't, they have shitty dad's and those kind of men are very tempting and manipulative. I also don't blame naive men raised to be weak for making weak man choices. I have no respect for anybody that rejects somebody to go get fucked by 40 others first before coming through.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:50 AM
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Not if he's been repeatedly told lies or raised by a weak father. You think only men prey on weak and insecure women? Fuck no, men are taught to have low standards for themselves and that's why so many men late to the game settle with a post wall gutter whore that doesn't even love him as much as the life he can provide her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:41 AM
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I just hope he wasn't waiting for her and getting no action himself, cause no self respecting man is gonna watch their crush waste the prime of her life on 40+ others dudes before accepting him as worthy. I would have said "wtf I wanted you in highschool I moved on years ago". But please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:20 AM
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Caught a winner there. It's an uncommon treat these days for a girlfriend to give her man the booty-call cumrag experience, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:12 AM
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You've known eachother since 8th grade but didn't start dating till after college? What the fuck? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:59 AM
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I have a question for you: most guys say that their sex life gets better with time, but I have a feeling you may be an exception. How do you feel about this statistic and the idea of FOMO?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:56 AM
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I'm just surprised as many women actually replied to something baity and paranoid as fuck yet so trivial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:54 AM
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I have a problem with men that call themselves men when they're blown around by social winds. Your intent with a woman should be irrespective of whatever she's done in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:20 AM
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These women are literally looking for predatory men, because healthy men aren't going out of their way to make an insecure hypergamous woman feel special. They want the Rapunzel fairy tail where the narcissist/psychopath in shining armor comes to rescue them from theirselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:00 PM
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Statistically: that's about the age where you'll find the majority of high value men. But no, it has less to do with age and everything to do with culture. We men could have been more valuable when we were younger if we vested more into being authentic instead of meandering with impressions and mind games. The same can be said for women. IMO most of these young prime girls are not that desirable to me anymore because I know better they're trash humans. Because the brain is hotter than the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:50 PM
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and the only real thing they could come up with was "symmetry" Because they're trying to elucidate the experience of beauty perception as a gene expression, but really most of what makes a face beautiful is the ego that wears it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:48 PM
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This doesn't seem to be entirely untrue. I've experienced some kind of dick arousal of sorts from a purely trusting/comforting/symbiotic relationship....ya, nothing to complain about, can be kind of mind mending and electric and breathtaking of a feeling, but "hot and heavy" don't come to mind when describing this. You need the lust for that, and a fuck ton of sex hormones and dopamine......it's probably an experience exclusive to youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:41 PM
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I'm actually interested in the benefits of this from your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:46 AM
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Got to it before me. OP looks like an alloplastic adaptation to me mixed with some magical thinking. Idealism paid with psychosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:08 PM
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But how much validity do you believe my OP has
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:14 AM
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I live under a rock, dude. But I wouldn't mind checking out this content you're eluding to, for maybe a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:06 AM
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Even as an autist myself TRP just confirmed some suspicions as I indulged in it for a few months last year. Also these aren't sociopaths but sadistic narcissists I believe. And also as an autist, I can comfortably say that we're probably more intrinsically vulnerable to developing personality disorder, particularly NPD. When this does happen we are the most pitiful and ineffective narcissists on earth, because we simply cannot fake our existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:42 AM
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First, we’d have to find someone genuinely interested in me. That's second. First is self ownership. Or practicing PUA, But I strongly suggest you stay away from PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:15 AM
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I'd have to agree with that, since most of us seem to be raised like shit and fail to culminate any real self worth till later on. This was mostly about the sex being less desirable and good feeling due to changes in bio/neurochemistry. I'd compare it to how your favorite songs don't hit quite the same or seeing that band live at the same venue you saw them at 15 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:05 AM
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While you're not getting your time back, TRT clinics often hand out enough testosterone to put you at supraphysiological numbers, and with that you may be able get yourself and your life back. I wanna get on it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:50 AM
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They also fail to realize these "slutty" types are all being manipulated by con artists and aren't actually interested in men. All they're interested in is loving themselves vicariously through the "important" male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:00 AM
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I would see a doc about that. I'm going 33 myself and can still get pretty turned on by thoughts about sex, and I don't see myself having a single performance issue when time number 6 happens to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:38 AM
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The red pill should stick to educating men about toxic women and I think they went too far saying high Ncounts are a problem when really what they're observing are complacent, entitled narcissists (aka Karens). Women can be like that as a virgin at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:12 PM
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Though I would pretty strongly disagree it has a significant future impact on social ability, and that's going to come down more to self ownership. For me that has been excruciating because of past abuse in the family, not because of a particular experience I was lacking. I spent the last 12 years doing drugs, and the last two studying narcissistic abuse. Thanks to this self ownership I found my place in the world helping others navigate abuse whenever I can, and an affectionate interest in phar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:54 PM
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Yes, predatory dating (PUA) training is definitely a thing. It's not just a skill though, or else everyone would be getting it better with age but that's not the case. Some say their best ever was before they were even 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:34 PM
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Like from a pessimistic perspective, ya. I'd argue it's not as much about that as it is making yourself by being gone with the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:33 PM
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Well the truth is these "unrealistic expectations" are actually not at all unrealistic, but they're an experience exclusive to youth. That's the truth we're being omitted from
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:58 PM
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Yes. Mostly because they shouldn't even be making that kind of commitment at that age anyway. You're just too damn horny, and nobility salience is also shot up to deep space. You're gonna have a wandering eye but you also can't help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:55 PM
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Right, as I acknowledged. And even said in another reply that I myself was not really ready for this till kind of recently as a 32M. All previous 5 times in my life kinda sucked so I get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:50 PM
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Hasn't happened many times for me and I didn't even feel really ready for it till around last new years now 32/m 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:46 PM
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Being intoxicated and in heat by each other's presence, ready to go at it by the spark of just a graze to send the beast into trance like voraciousness. Later on sex needs to be done with intention after one thing leads to the other. It's noticeably less urgent and spontaneous, and the inner child needs to be more involved to compensate for what the beast isn't quite doing anymore and fetish play becomes more and more preferable. Not exactly a ripoff trade-off, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:41 PM
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More of like when that surge of testosterone started hitting full force at 15 😅 Now other heavens are opening up now that my head is mostly out of the gutter of past rejections and abuse in the family system
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:58 PM
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Neither were mine but I'm also not going to pretend the girl that took my vcard showed me something about attraction and enthusiasm that I'm never gonna have a chance to culminate again and sing the unspoken words. I say "there's nothing to complain about what I can still have"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:31 PM
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I look at what's in front of me with an angel and demon at war, getting flippity floppity with what I want. Getting better though, and feeling like I'll he somewhat motivated to date in a few months
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:24 PM
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There is nothing magic about about an awkward young fattie failing to please a man sexually. It's a pretty lie that we tell women. Lol, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:20 PM
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TRP and FDS propagate transactional self fulfillment in relationships because apparently loving somebody isn't really a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:27 PM
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A person who is promiscuous as criteria for mental illness is NOT have sex they WANT to have, they are using sex as a way to hurt themselves. Right. And TRP does conflate these two situations as a convenient justification for avoiding contention with bottled up insecurity. A woman who has picked her partners and deliberately had sex with people she wants to is a much better chance of never wanting to cheat than someone forced against their will by society to be a virgin until marriage like I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:12 PM
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Because they can be the pinnacle statement of self ownership
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:19 PM
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Some of it is also the psychological implications this can have on long term mating strategies. A similar phenomenon can be observed with substance abusers who detox but still experience motivation to get high.....they haven't really recovered, like the woman feeling ambivalence in her first real relationship but still trying to keep it together anyway despite an urge to go cheat with somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:50 PM
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To that I say love has no competition and I believe those men are bringing something other than their hearts into the relationship. But to TRP's credit, she probably is, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:37 PM
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Do what you want 🤷‍♂️ If you're into eachother there's no reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:59 AM
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As multiple studies suggest, sexual history does have an effect on marital stability, contrary to what high n count women say. Statistically speaking, yes. And those statistics are more representative and indicative of people's unwillingness to change I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:43 PM
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Sorry for the trouble. I will try a CMV 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:07 PM
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The main point of this is to rejoice with other's unique experiences with this problem and hopefully somebody's words can pave the way to enlightenment (is that what you mean by circlejerking?...understandable) while welcoming a challenge to what I know as reality. But I could overhaul the post and settle with a focus on CMV if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:52 PM
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Or can I get some help making this right? because I read the wiki and I really don't see the issue. ☹
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:17 PM
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This is both a discussion and CMV......? I don't get it, but I'd appreciate if you would just tell me the topic isn't appropriate instead of dragging me through the gauntlet of impossible expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:16 PM
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Okay. This is now a CMV thread 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:23 PM
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I can support my consensus if anybody asks, but this thread was intended for others who own the same world view and hopefully somebody has an inspiring and break through insight 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:46 PM
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I'm not trying to change my view but have a discussion about this. What subreddit do you believe I should post this to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:16 PM
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As a childhood narcissistic abuse survivor this was a paramount discernment to establish. The abrasive words "you can't blame your parents" echo in my mind, but after educating myself a bit on psychology it turns out that parental influence is a significant predicator of life outcomes, and I'm also much more toxic and caustic of a person than I wanted to believe.....which brings me to responsibility. Or more precisely in this context: self ownership. Whatever the fuck you got from your family li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:30 PM
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Deceiving someone to gain access to her body is one situation that comes to mind. This is the issue. Dating has become predatory at large and we're all just prizes to win for pulling all the right strings like pernicious gurus of the psyche hacking it to generate an intoxicating shared fantasy. That "alpha male" archetype we idolize is actually a romanticized psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:47 PM
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it's also perfectly ok to miss out. I'm going to disagree with this for now because I really want that, too. but we'll see how my therapy discourse goes. Now I wonder, in your world what made those times better than with your LTR and why you can't achieve that quality of experience with him/her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:34 PM
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The anti-fomo crowd and therapists would say otherwise. Which is why I'm here, to sing Lucifer's rhapsody, and probably offend a person or two. Anti-fomo is, for the most part wishful thinking for lost souls. "Unrealistic expectations" aren't actually unrealistic. Most people just never have really great sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:27 PM
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There's no consequences cause there shouldn't be. Not only is there nothing wrong with it, it's good for us. What's not good is celibacy for months or years between relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:29 AM
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I could have a successful relationship right now I was okay with not fulfilling prime urges. I'm very not okay with how my dick works now. Just normal libido decline and my unwillingness to go with it. I'm in therapy and it isn't working for this issue at least. Fixed a lot of things except my dick is still ruining my life. I avoid seeking relationships because of this and I don't know how to feel motivated to date without having any initial sexual urges for anyone. I want "extremely horny" sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:22 AM
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My test can't be low when I'm literally lusting to have the funds to get into training. Two years ago at 30 I tested high 800s and I don't feel like that's changed much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:34 AM
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The deep issue: I have the same unfulfilled longing I've had for 17 years 😥 I could get on testosterone therapy, vape some meth and maybe I can be extremely horny again. But fuck who's actually gonna keep up with me trying to get off anywhere and everywhere all the time. I definitely don't look 18 anymore. Some say 30 year olds want it the most.....heresy. not actually true This was either going to do this to you, or you'd diminish your sexuality to deal with the frustration. In my opinion you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:31 AM
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Depends. Hookup material is usually physically attractive and bearable. Boyfriend material is at the least a 6 if hookup material was 8, but the boyfriend material attracts multiple dimensions that isn't just her pussy (but is still likely a 7 or 8). The boyfriend is preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:04 AM
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Good post I do miss that "extremely" horny feeling so much. And yes, it really really is better than none. I'm consumed with a longing emptiness and shame to give what little I still have to anyone. You did the right thing I think. You wouldn't have been the same I'm sure Hope life is good now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:55 AM
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Some say you don't need to do that. Some avoid it out of taboo and others just wait years between relationships cause they can't get anything in between. Basically: they're missing out? Idk how do you feel about people who don't experience that? Is it worth it or is the LTR sooner or later all that really matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 AM
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Well shit that's quite watered down. Would "promiscuous phase" be more politically correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:36 AM
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I just want that sex I can't have anymore without testosterone injections and methamphetamine 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:02 AM
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I admit I FOMO hard, and it consumes me sometimes. They were really good times weren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:48 PM
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Well, I'm talking about the people doing casual sex and wondering if there actually is benefit that I suspect there is. Not with anyone they want, but people in their league Inquisitive and incongruous to say the least. Was this eluding to something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:35 PM
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I have no motivation to seek out sex anymore. My testosterone levels are in the higher echelon of normal.....but I don't want it. I just want to bond and cuddle. It's like my manhood both failed to develop AND integrate into my libido. They're separate. Like, what used to be sexual feelings and fantasy is now me in the gym strength training, practicing Krav Maga and taking it to a dicey fight club with no oversight. Bonding cuddle buddy I love until my manhood has something to say, and then I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:17 PM
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Some say the "hoe phase" was an important part of their upbringing. Others tell me it's no big deal. The emptiness in my soul and the heavy air are inclined to agree with the former. But what do you think, could you be the same person and maintain a sense of self worth being a late 20s or beyond, virgin? Would your sex life be as satisfying as it was then and is now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:09 PM
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Yes. I believe strongly that I'm not developing a dimension of my personality. Others tell me differently in my personal life that I don't need that. Now Lucifer sings to culminate the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:02 PM
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This thread has made me wonder if going through a "hoe phase" is actually very healthy, and it's benefits elude medical literature? Many people only have a few LTRs in their lives, and I would argue many of them also don't really know what they want. But some of them, do? I'm 32, very inexperienced, dating experience was all rejection, and between two close friends I can count my PIV encounters on one hand. My sexual self is pretty busted and I admit the rejections eviscerated my self esteem....…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:50 PM
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This isn't just about women, and this is definitely not about statistical outcomes. And I'd appreciate manosphere attitudes staying out of my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:32 PM
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Lots of us are horny and go without sex for months or years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:14 PM
0

Okay so that's interesting. Not "lesser" standars, but: watered down or distilled. Now in your world, are these flings held together by any sort of connection/fwb or is it shared fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:13 PM
0

If he isn't worth dating than what's the actual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:04 PM
1

Okay, but why? Why not just chill until you're ready for an LTR? What would you tell people who go months or years without sex between relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:00 PM
2

So basically: compensatory self esteem boost I'll find out more about that second paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:51 PM
3

But what benefits of these experiences-that others who don't have these experiences-are missing out on, and what advice would you give somebody who missed these experiences when they were young?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:13 PM
2

No most people (mainly men) are lucky to get a date with anyone, even more lucky to fuck them. Most of us can't have casual sex. Most of us will be waiting till love for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:07 PM
1

Casual sex is off the table for them. I wonder if it was important to becoming who you are today, and if there are alternative experiences that will nourish the same way. And if you witnessed somebody you know go for years without an LTR or casual experience, how would you tell them its okay? How would you tell yourself it's okay if you were rejected 100 times over 3 years before somebody finally gives you a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:24 PM
2

It was a mistake to make this a question specifically for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:16 PM
0

It was a mistake to label this as a question for women for sure. I wonder above all else: is this necessary for both men and women? I personally never went through a phase like this, been single all my life and now 32. Feeling empty and not really knowing what I want is crushing.....but is this possibly because I never went through that phase? Could you have been in my shoes and been okay? Is this phase not really that important and I shouldn't even try? What am I sacrificing by not experiencing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:14 PM
2

Why do they need advice? Sounds like they know what works for them. It usually doesn't work for them. Most of us want to sleep around as well and feel very empty and worthless due to the lack of experiences. We may be respected by our employer and the other guys, which isn't the same as being wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:00 PM
1

Why sleep around in between, though? Like, most people don't do this and "seem okay", but is there benefit to it? Would you or anybody else have a subjectively less satisfying life? And if there is benefit to it, what advice would you give somebody who doesn't reap those benefits. How do you tell them they're okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:47 PM
1

But is this all actually necessary? And I wonder if there's benefits to all of this that incel types will never reap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:37 PM
1

The kissing gets deeper and feels hungry and we just want to get closer . I’m having such a hard time putting the feeling into words so this isnt a perfect description. While really analyzing this myself for the first time I’m surprised that id describe the love making to be the more animalistic of the too. And by far. We really let go and are just in our bodies. Like not a single corner of every dimension is not turned inside out and intertwined into an amalgamation of ecstasy wrapped in absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:22 AM
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Love making vs fucking Experience differences, preferences for dimensions of each, and what's being traded off (if there's any compromises anywhere). I want to hear about this experience. I've always known there was a difference and thought I was crazy 😅....but go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:48 PM
1

Not really. The greatest joy is being wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:00 PM
1

I saw one saying that married 20somethings are doing it the most. Average 3x day I heard a woman quoted somewhere saying something to the effect of "I never thought I'd want to stop being fucked like that, but I grew up" Even this middle aged woman I'm interested in said she used to want it everyday but not anymore, needs lots of foreplay now and lube. It is what it is. Doesn't bother me, what does bother me is a lot of us like to delude ourselves into believing we just become more sexual and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:04 PM
1

I don't think there's many 40somethings that want sex 5+ times a day. Probably most teenagers do, and many 20somethings, some 30somethings, but maybe just a handful of 40+ want it like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:00 PM
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Dude, we aren't disagreeing, at all. Like how I would tell you sex in my 30s now is better than before, but it has nothing to do with sex drive.....which is what I'm talking about here. I think we need to stop telling people "it gets better" just because statistics show that young people are overall having worse sex than older people. I'm not seeing nature in these statistics, but problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:18 AM
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More accepting, ya. A 20 year old virgin is more likely to get with an older woman. But the cold hard truth is: they just don't have as much feeling for it to give anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:12 AM
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Ya they do stuff, I know, I had a once and never again with one. Confident and she even initiated, told me to get my clothes off and fuck her....wasn't really into her though. I also lost my vcard to an 18 year old that was crazy about me. Unfortunately I was way too nervous at the time to get into it. There was a je ne sais quoi to the 18 year old, she was burning with passion, and intoxicated. The 40 year old just wasn't feeling it like that, wasn't as into it, wasn't as enthusiastic, passiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:01 AM
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But okay "that thot is clinging to him and blah blah" I know what the minds of these girls are like, and they aren't into the guy. They're into his perceived "importance" and how important they can feel, too, by pulling some strings and getting fucked by him. Then guess what the fuck happens when he shows some of his true self; insecurities and vulnerabilities, she leaves him. Why? CAUSE SHE DOESN'T REALLY WANT HIM. The shared fantasy dissolves and so does her so called "interest"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:52 AM
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All I can see here is laments over missed experiences. Like ya, the sex isn't gonna be as wild, mind bending and spontaneous as with a passionately risqué 19 year old cock crazed bimbo. But with the right attitude it could be better than what most others past their prime are doing. Assuming you're late 20s or older
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:48 PM
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Believe it or not, roid bodies are typically not considered desirable. What's really desirable is a guy striving to be his best self, and part of that is hitting the gym and becoming strong and muscular. FIT bodies are very attractive, women do like muscles, but unnatural and supraphysiological amounts of muscle? No. It's generally not appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:29 PM
3

Uh no. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:48 PM
1

The 40 year old is just gonna say she wants to fuck instead of stringing you along with bullshit ego games. Probably because the 40 year old is secure with herself while the 20 year old uses men to feel important (always got to make an impression by saying the right thing at the right time).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:35 PM
1

Because you're fucking around with dumb bitches that don't actually want men. They want to love themselves vicariously. And how do you do that? Go for the most "important" male and make sure you're seen with him, and definitely kiss and tell. For some reason being a psychopath is fashionable and desired among much of the youth, and ya: it dilutes the market for the rest of us who don't play these games. The most important thing for you is that you don't define your self worth by how well you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:02 AM
2

Nevermind the contemptuous manosphere incel red pillers, the prolific intellectual red pillers primarily don't like deceptive scoundrels in general, but they speak out specifically about the ones who use and abuse men. As somebody who was repeatedly abused by narcissists in childhood, the prolific psychologists on the topic have been a god-send to say the least. Their voices have been a transformative influence that went well beyond what I was getting in therapy. It's equally important that both…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:35 PM
3

As I realized very recently: shame and insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:32 AM
1

PUA: learning to date like a psychopath TRP: I get laid but I identify with incels Black pill: I can't have self worth, so I breath nothingness MGTOW: relationships are unsafe so I'll be a bachelor for life instead
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:18 PM
2

Authentic dating narrative: "I want you" Performative dating narrative: "I want you to want me"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:58 AM
1

No, you see what happens when you become a master manipulator who is well versed in female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:13 PM
2

I have both, and unsurprisingly have identified with incels and violent fantasies. But the only crimes I've ever committed are related to sale and/or transport of controlled substances. I'm pretty sure they were all either abused and/or served a silver platter and otherwise neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:09 PM
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No. We wanted love before learning it's not what women want, then we want to become like the bad boy and fuck 19 year olds when we're 30
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:29 PM
1

Very few people actually have good lives these days, partially because of these psychopaths and narcissists being revered as "alpha" males......their dating lives are shit, too, despite what you may think about them getting laid. The narcissist depends on the attention and the psychopath, well, his existence is as meaningless to himself as the sex he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:51 PM
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The unapologetic and insufferable contempt underlying this entire post is scathing. If your dating life is lacking it's probably because you live with your head up your own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:27 PM
4

At the end of the day most of us, while respected/appreciated/approved/accepted, it still isn't being wanted, and it's going to erode your heart and soul unless you dissociate. Because the consequences of dissociation are often more favorable than eroding your heart and soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:40 PM
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This totally missed the point: that men should not be expected to be men when they're largely so undervalued and unwanted. Because yes: being valued by the opposite sex is in fact important for self esteem. Most of us men are trying to get by serving a boss that views him as expendable while being constantly rejected by women. And no, we don't feel wanted just because we're accepted or approved by our peers. Being accepted and approved is much different than being wanted It's just not possible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:03 PM
1

Betrayal, omission, emotional investments returned with a facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:41 PM
1

Since the what? Bodybuilding has been a thing since a pretty long while ago. What changed is perceptions. And it doesn't help that pretty much every fitness model is on PEDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:58 PM
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Because a narcissist isn't real. Knock all you want but nobody but a 7 year old is in there. Functioning as an adult is overbearing for a 7 year old without an act or facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:35 PM
1

Complicated for the observer or victim to unravel, dumb if you're the player.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:28 PM
2

Sounds like you need to stop chasing shitty women, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:40 AM
3

The women that want to be gamed have similar issues to unfeeling men. They both want to solicit certain emotions in the other instead of just giving their own to eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:39 AM
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I don't really care what she's been through. If we're both each other's first choice and she put in the psychological footwork to get over vicarious auto-erotisism, then she's g2g.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:55 PM
2

My dick did the negotiating. I've experienced getting horny just sitting next to somebody who was not even physically attractive to me, this last New Years actually. She may not be "in my league", but I want to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:04 PM
2

To the more genuine guys, is there anything you think you could do to change this situation and discourage other men from this behaviour? Get their head out of the PUA/Alpha gutter and tell them they're just playing a psychopath's game, and remind them they have just as many issues as the women they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:39 PM
6

A double edged responsibility: transparency of your past is the most honest presentation of current self, as well as the responsibility to ameliorate toxic outcomes and forgive self/other for past transgression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:22 AM
3

I think my libido is normal...... no problem getting hard enough, I'm just apathetic towards it. There's tingles and other good feelings but nothing hot and heavy that's driving any pro-creative behavior, no urge to unload.....just intimacy/cuddle drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:26 PM
3

32 going 33 this summer, and never really want sex, just intimacy and love anymore. I used be so fucking sexual and never gave it to anybody awhile I had it, and that's what hurts the most: that it didn't go anywhere, except whisping away in the air via sublimation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:35 PM
3

One man's trash is another's treasure, I say here. I'm just very insecure and dissatisfied with what my dick can do, longing for a more visceral and wild experience than I can never achieve with anyone anymore. And that has nothing to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:28 PM
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Within 100 years 90% of families are going to be run by single parents, because the harsh truth is that children from a previous relationship are always a liability, and the people who were virgins in their 20s are starting to realize dating single parents is actually a really terrible deal, and I hope coming up generations of childless singes keep going their own way. A part of why I consider this woman I'm seeing to be a good catch is cause she doesn't have kids. Other than that I don't give a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:56 PM
7

Statistics say otherwise. Less and less people are having sex, loners are on the rise and people are getting married much later than ever, if ever at all. The problem is hypergamous women, weak as fuck young men, and attitudes like "have my cake and eat it too, cash out on my youth with the wrong people and pretend I'm still as wanted as ever" Meanwhile my dick is full of cobwebs and shame, hoping nothing with my date tonight transpires into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:08 PM
2

Harem artifacts. They want harem artifacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:52 PM
1

The best part is how you almost flattered me by becoming my echo instead of daring to speak your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:41 PM
2

😂 You are a funny, cheeky troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:50 PM
10

Unfortunately for almost everyone these dynamics leave few options for just about everybody. Women generally try to look for serious relationships in their later 20s and beyond while the men around that same age are giving up on relationships and trying to play and win a good time with those hotties he could never catch before. (And he will probably still fail at it)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:36 PM
5

I kind of prefer my "boring post wall girlfriend". I don't care she's an ex meth addict and was on and off with another guy for 12 years before meeting me. I've needed real love and a state of affairs I can call "home" since I was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:25 PM
2

Just saying that "my wife/husband doesn't compare to blah blah blah but I love him/her" is actually really common. I'm also saying this is okay, cause sexual attraction is NEEVVEERRRR necessary, it's not even necessary to have sex if you want. If you love the person enough then spend time with foreplay and something will probably happen. Not gonna be like college unless maybe you're lucky enough for love and attraction to commensurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:15 PM
7

It's that we know what we "missed out on". We know that while we were wallowing in virgin-hood that our current girlfriend would have turned us down 10 years ago for the same reason she isn't into us currently "like the other guys". We don't really want to be in love, we want our time to experience being king of the jungle, we want those hot lusty experiences our current girlfriend can't give anymore. We're mad and sullen that we're only wanted when our dicks aren't doing what they used to anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:52 PM
4

Falling in love means transcendence, and consequently: paleomammalian suicide. You make sacrifices for love, including sexual compromise. You don't think "I want this person" as much as "I cherish this person", and you don't think "I wanna fuck you so hard" as much as "I wanna cuddle you". Being in love and the best sex don't, and never will, mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:33 PM
1

There is no such thing as love with standards, and there's no such thing as being in heat if you're in love. Love knows no competition, but lust is more powerful and fulfilling. If you aren't in the top 5% then you must commit paleomammalian suicide or you will be lonely and disdainful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:01 AM
3

Like ya, nobody really wants to be a harem artifact. Many men are imparted with the roots of 18th century "dating" and its kind of a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:46 PM
6

It's true: bodybuilders get disproportionately more compliments from OTHER GUYS than women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:30 PM
4

Whichever next lost soul gets in your pants for another psychopathic dance macabre with the devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:34 AM
7

I know you play games with well off, yet gullible men who have no real personality but sure are good at reflecting your own grandiose sense of self back at you. If I was an idiot I'd be enticed by you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:27 AM
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Younger men are easier to manipulate 😂 And you seem very good at that. You couldn't get me hard on a steroid cycle and methamphetamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:12 AM
0

Is emotionally connecting and existing a need? Fuck no, just grind it out, give yourself a pat on the back and repeat. You don't have emotional experiences but you're surviving. Who the fuck needs to have emotional self experience when you can just "appreciate what you have"? (Being facetious, by the way)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:49 PM
0

And I would recommend to anybody subscribed to red pill ideology to get the fuck out and study personality disorder a little bit. It's a much more resourceful and helpful way to understand why toxic women are the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:11 PM
0

TBP: blissfully ignorant Annabelles TRP: Misogynistic, insecure, resentful loveless closeted incels who get laid sometimes. They have become reflections of what they hate so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:06 PM
3

Self-ownership, self-love, big ego (but not grandiose) and healthy selfishness. They're self-actualized and turned inside-out. "Why be envious when I can be me" is their integral monologue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:41 PM
1

Depending on the person it could just be another way to say they cherish somebody. If the person is toxic then the "prize" will be a harem artifact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:14 PM
2

I preferred a virgin when the boundaries between my own surrealism/idealism and the rest of the world were blurred. Virgin fetishism is in my opinion pure evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:43 PM
1

I am going to disgree with this. High value men are emotionally vested into the things they say and do. Psychopaths and narcissists can also be hardworking and altruistic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:17 AM
2

The absolute worst is the entitled, psychopathic type that will win over everything you have in court if you dump her. The kind who want to self-trash, with lifestyle of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:02 PM
1

Sounds like a discussion for psychology students, but ya I agree: people are being raised like shit generation after generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:32 PM
1

Ya, dude. These women aren't really investing into the guy, they're investing in themselves, they want to be affirmed of what they believe to be their great special selves and they're getting played out by psychopaths and narcissists to escape from real life. You know why these relationships only last 3 months at the very most? Because the masks invariably come off, the shared fantasy dissolves and they can't indulge in their idealized selves anymore. Alpha widows don't miss the guy as much as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:01 AM
1

The "Chad" stereotype is a psychopath who sells women her own idealized self.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:00 AM
1

No. I myself went through a phase of certain interests which I don't like anymore and if a prospective partner was into those interests then that conflict of interest will rightfully be the demise of the relationship. If you walk through life with any certainty and identity you'll dust yourself off and try again knowing you aren't morally flawed; knowing that there was simply a compatibility issue and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:58 AM
1

A self respecting woman may get the hots for a guy right away but she isn't giving herself up till she accesses every dimension of his ego and still has the hots for him. Same goes for a self respecting man. I've stuck my dick in things to elevate my ego and I'm not doing it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:21 PM
2

No. It's really not. The women who jump on men immediately are chasing their idealized self through a 3rd party. When they actually start interacting with the guy and who he actually is, that's when they're turned off because they're no longer getting their hit of ideal self through them. It's also not treating them better because she's doing the same for him. It's like trading counterfeit money for a veneer, both parties get ripped off when they find out it was just a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:10 PM
1

Probably not, but for some reason we strive to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:17 PM
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"Men"? No: you're talking about psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:06 PM
1

A lot of self is being vested here, best be making sure you're not about to get ripped off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:04 PM
1

It still is basic stuff. We like to think most of us "grow up" but really we mostly just lose our way. The issue can be explained by object relations: they're probably not interacting with you but internal objects, and they only get aroused when they don't interact with you, but, just their idea of you. It's propaganda and alternate realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:00 AM
1

Hard to say: I haven't looked recently. Haven't even tried to date since circa 26 years old. Never caught anybody except a trans woman that is a friend of a friend, and a heart surgeon that could never seem to make any time for me (also has children and wants marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:51 PM
1

I know I'm not the only one who doesn't want children or marriage, but we're extremely scarce by late 20s. Good fucking luck to us in our 30s now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:23 PM
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Definitely not your prime, though. Just UNFORTUNATELY when a lot of us will finally start experiencing goodness. My life now is definitely better by contrast (32M), but we're definitely not as sharp and driven as we used to be, and dating and sex definitely isn't as exciting anymore. I actually felt a lot better when I was 19 even though I was being abused every day. So, can we stop pretending the 30s are the primes of our lives and just admit that's a compensatory affirmation to delude us into …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:14 PM
2

It's as if the alpha widow experienced a psychodynamic resulting in an unmalleable change in core object relations with men or even the world at large.......no, that's us men feeling inadequate by contrast despite her acting like a slut just for you and nobody else. The real problem isn't the guys these women fuck, but these women's FATHERS. Overbearing/weak/emotionally disconnected fathers make promiscuous daughters and sexless sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:50 PM
4

Not true, it's not lower than a men's. It's much more selective, though. When a woman really really wants a man she will make excuses to not be present in an aspect of her life at a certain time so she can be devoted to getting that dick. She will be the one spontaneously initiating and be needing it frequently. She will be somewhat unboundaried and totally submissive ready for you when you want her. Women will only behave like this for less for less than 10% of men, but they are almost willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:39 AM
1

Women will put you in your place. Not by telling you explicitly how valuable you are but will let you know you've got options or not in the advice they give. If you're beta to them they will tell you to wait till you're older and earn more money (basically: don't even try anything but LTR). If they view you as alpha they will tell you what they want you to do to them and pass it off as "advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:20 PM
1

The only self improvement that works is separation and individuation from their narcissistic fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:12 PM
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What I'm wondering is if she thinks about her ex in bed with me. Men shouldn't obsess with this when somebody before their current probably turned them on more, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:39 AM
2

Or rather the point is how many women actually relate to their husbands in 2nd or 3rs place. I'd rather dedicate everything I have to work as well if my lady isn't enthusiastic about getting this dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:31 PM
15

It's just a shame these guys believe they're finally coming in first place for once in their lives. Also a shame that conventionally mainstream expectations for sex seem to strongly reinforce "have your cake and eat it too" strategies. These women like their husband to believe they're "just not one of the submissive types" as omission gaslights him into a world of accepting mediocrity for himself. I'm beyond mad that we accept anyone being subjugated into happily playing a role in imagination la…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:27 AM
1

I don't want children or marriage. Pretty sure that's not a sign of mental illness as much as preference. So, fuck you, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:28 PM
3

Could just wait another 10 years and the kids will be gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:46 PM
2

Here's the thing: those DTF girlfriends that will give you 10/10 sex are out there, however common they actually are we compete for them cause we want them. Our prime libidos are viceral and ferocious and we have to restrain our expressive capacity with most women.....it's not good for our souls when we can't be wild. Edit: and you don't even need to be a ideal woman figure. Just your best self, inside and out will more than suffice, with a matched libido of course. Basically just read books, go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:46 PM
1

For some reason us dudes don't get that women exploit men for sex, too, and take it as disinterest when she wants to get fucked by a real person instead of a facade. Real intimacy takes some emotional vesting and time to procure. We all want a borderline until she starts screaming at us about something her boss said to her. Shared fantasy has become the norm and it's alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:06 PM
1

The same way you'd deal with a man's traumas? I think so. Or did I misunderstand the question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 06:17 PM
1

Did I stutter when I talked about sexual chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:50 PM
3

I actually meet her the first time in a week. 10 years ago I was kind of worried I'm running out of time to experience romance and "charge" in a relationship (I have been associated with incels), but now I don't feel like I missed out on very much. Edit: I'm not a "truecel" but it hasn't happened many times, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 03:35 PM
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It actually started here on reddit with a very heart felt post I made. She fell instantly and it's been snowballing since.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 02:55 AM
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Stuff can happen. Me (31M) and my partner (43F) have an enormous income gap. I'm coming out of a haze of my past, a month out of IOP behavioral health treatment and on unemployment with pharmacist aspirations....and she's a cardiac surgeon. Stupid crazy fairytale passion land kind of love, catching and soothing each other's vulnerabilities and being seen deeply to our cores with very hot sexual chemistry. Doesn't seem to care that I'm also interested in an affluent career. Kind of a crazy story …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:53 PM
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Apparently Zac Efferon is way more attractive now than he used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:34 PM
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She'd either be dry or disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:42 AM
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Usually it's the man's fault she doesn't cum. But I can see why women don't mess with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 12:12 AM
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I may have misunderstood the point of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:49 PM
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I mean most men and women are like that at some point where the quality of sex is a top life priority. Mostly shows as having no interest in anyone that doesn't make us feel hot and heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:43 PM
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These are us who haven't experienced it much. But why is this about men? Just about everybody is like this till they spend the novelty and are gratified....unless maybe you were raised religiously or to otherwise hold diminished perspectives of sexuality which effectively condemns and sells that potential short.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:22 PM
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Oh and, yes: you can definitely still be manipulated by women or anyone else despite not having a libido. Hell I'd even say that the forces that drive my libido are also the same forces that brought my psyche from an abused and confused state to my authentic self.....I couldn't have saved myself without the libido I don't think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:32 PM
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I used to be manipulated by girls sometimes and that's because I wasn't grounded in any values or sense of self, and, I substituted that lost sense of self with the nice guy act, and would mirror every woman who ever showed any kind of interest. Fast forward to 31 years old, slightly past my prime but my libido can still be monstrous at times, and there is no fucking way I'm doing any more boyfriend favors for a woman that's not giving up the pussy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:29 PM
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Except you, I guess lol. Just saying it is a little bit insulting you'd project an attribution to libido as a viable reason why women manipulate men....no. no no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:12 PM
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This isn't serious. I, and any other self respecting-and aware-man could be on sildenafil and supraphysiological doses of testosterone without becoming whipped to the point of losing control of our lives. Choosing a lower libido over a strong one ought to be absolutely out of the question for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 08:42 PM
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Oh no it's totally platonic....now. First time I was rejecting her before I gave in....then I was on the chase for 2½ years before she gave in again, definitely not as enthusiastic as the first time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:19 AM
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Maybe I'm just a fucking cuck but I've had many close friendships with girls where I was around to see 10 relationships/hookups come up and burn down in each of their lives. Fked one of them, twice in a 3 year span lol. And that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:55 PM
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Probably more circumstance than environment but it was kind if meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe it's more of like 70%, idk. But this woman pretty much laid out what to do if you wanna be that hookup guy. And now here's a little something from me: the number 1 factor of attraction in the hookup scene is perceived status. I have some upper echelon physical traits going on in my double helixes, but I'm an incel that doesn't catch hookups. But why? Because overbearing and emotionally co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:54 PM
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Like you seem to have this idea in your head that attractive guys don't need to put in any work to snowball and leverage the initial attraction into a sexual experience. The minefield don't go away just because you're an 8/10 in the face and body.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:58 PM
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Psychoactives+fun can skew a woman's physical standards a bit.....if weed and psychedelics are involved (maybe alcohol, too) you could probably just deploy the silver tongue and vibe your way into that pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:55 PM
1

Lol no, more of like trade numbers if necessary until the environment is more appropriate. But yes you do usually need to be attractive to catch the hookup....I don't think anybody is saying you don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:47 PM
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Now how do we get them over how much better their imaginary girlfriend treated made up guys in past hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:41 PM
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Right. Except a lot of us actually don't seem to know how circumstances and environment predicate a hookup and do "90% of the heavy lifting". Or are you just complaining that a woman can let down more boundaries during a hookup vs a long term partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:26 PM
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Not that empirical dating experience can give you that insight; what I said is a culmination of meta analysis from the internet and some things told to me by close female friends who have rejected me for sex. I'm not one of those guys that shame women for experiencing a hoe phase....going through a hoe phase is perfectly fine. What isn't fine is the blue pill lie men are fed that promises their time will come to be these woman's best catches when the women grow up more, but the reality is that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:29 AM
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What? Nothing with dating happens to me so I don't understand what you're asking. Can you reiterate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:08 AM
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Cause she hits the wall and realizes she's about as wanted anymore as some of the less-shitty-but-still-not-that-exciting guys that she's rejected before.....not a bad place, but definitely not weilding as much dating power, and can't afford to be as selective as before. So she adopts different values and learns to settle for and love what she used to reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:56 AM
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Or rather instead of explicitly saying that I agree with you....... I ran with the idea of these lies.........in a scenario where a woman would stroke my ego while occasionally thinking about a past partner while we fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:48 AM
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I just don't like how I'm gaslighted into believing I'm gonna be some woman's king one day when the reality is that it's like being rich: not every guy is gonna be somebody's king. Like fuck if we're in love I don't have to be her first choice I just don't want to be told I'm first choice while getting treated like 2nd or 3rd choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:12 AM
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I think it's a competitive nature thing....we know when a woman is really into us and when she's trying to settle with us, and we don't like being second or third place or plan B or C or whatever. And I don't think you owe that instinct any validation. Though understand men can be hypergamous and chase that heavy/lusty attraction as well, and perhaps what you're labeling as "entitlement" is a miscommunication about dating intention. If a guy is really attracted to you he's either gonna make sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:24 PM
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Sometimes somebody can be a afraid of sabotaging contingencies by making those moves early on. Sexual compromises aren't always made with an LTR but I think what you said is correct >70% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:59 PM
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When dating with LTR intent your standards come down a bit because the personal investment isn't all into the quality of sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:28 PM
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I was with somebody for a few months who was veerrryyy submissive with me-about as slutty as it gets-emptying my balls on her face and in her mouth whenever the fuck I wanted to despite probably 50+ body count so I don't wanna hear that. Meanwhile my other friend who was a virgin till about 25 years old will probably never give any man that treatment ever....like, she doesn't seem prudish anymore like she used to be but she's no freak either. So I like to think that body count, if anything is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 01:34 PM
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Lol no. "Chads" getting the Chad experience has little to do with novelty and everything to do with how desirable "Chads" are. If you're not getting Chad/Stacy affection it's not because your partner is clapped out, but because you're not Chad/Stacy. Also, sex, and everything else in life just feels better when you're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:21 AM
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It's also okay for women to reject virgin men because wtf is wrong with those boys to have not had sex yet.... Just kidding, though. And I hope you're kidding, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:00 AM
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We shouldn't. Lol Cut out the wars and corporate welfare so life can be more affordable for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:09 PM
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We could actually afford the last two things collectively if we weren't squandering those resources into safety netting stock holders when big business fucks up. And that $300bil that's spent every year on, the immoral, drug enforcement. And those $trillions spent on the military to occupy whatever land is in the interest of [big business's name here] to occupy. I'd honestly rather serve up whatever these ambiguous demands are from "her" than give another cent to special interests and welfare fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 03:11 PM
1

Right And right Parents who lose children to tragedy often contend with it in healthy ways and continue to lead meaningful lives without resentment and bitterness, and I think the ~80% of us who "won't own an Aston" can deal with that in a healthy way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:06 PM
1

I think the point is derived from the red pill philosophy that men as relationship interests don't experience as much passion from a woman as the guy who is of raw sexual interest. Probably true but to have that reality put under a demoralizing spotlight is to be dismissive of the investment the LTR interest is getting the casual ones didn't. Sexual fulfillment is a luxury less than a 4th of us will ever be able to afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:24 PM
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I think? Lol... How big is this news? If I was still 20 I'd probably be slaying, cause 11 years later the game is definitely not the same for me anymore 😟.
/r/BlackPillScience19/03/21 07:04 PM
1

I've turned down many opportunities because of busted aesthetics but some guys get their dick wet simply with no standards or discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 11:20 PM
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The only thing this proves is that the majority of people are unwilling to change. Past promiscuity is no different than any other past, toxic behavioral patterns that were reinforced with necessity or reward.
/r/BlackPillScience19/02/21 10:41 PM
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The problem is that any study regarding this can only cite a correlation and ultimately just builds a foundation to hate; everybody deserves to be seen and loved for the changes they've made and who they've become while being forgiven for their past. The only thing this study proves is that most people don't make an effort to change.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/21 12:42 AM
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Sexual attraction in its purest expression doesn't conflate with love and I think the problem is how we're all raised to believe the opposite, creating confusion when we have the hots for somebody and make inappropriate investments into something that's no more than raw animalistic attraction. I say just be aware of what game your playing so you're not repeatedly let down by overextending your emotional investment into what you believe to be true love. Be aware of whether you're on the carousel/…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:38 PM
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It's a prerequisite. I've always had amazing genes (6'2", blonde hair blue eye, mesomorph and testosterone >900ng/ml) and almost genius intelligence but carried around autism and PTSD all my life and you could see it without even getting to know me, and if you did get to know me you'd cringe at how not so smart and trivial I seemed. Less well off genes were better off in the light of charm and talent. I'm a Chad that never was.
/r/BlackPillScience26/01/21 06:46 AM
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