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That’s fair. I feel the same way as you, I would be very sad too. If I have kids, I also want to be as personally involved in their upbringing as possible. We could narrow down my original point this way: Not all women feel the same desire to be heavily involved mothers. But society tends to make them feel that they are bad mothers for this. We should convince this group that there is nothing wrong with feeling this way, and it is okay to have kids with a dedicated father who fills this role.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:15 PM
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Part of the problem is that they often compare the laziest househusbands to the average or better housewives, and don’t realise that it is not a fair comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:00 PM
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I meant that in the modern world, she is at least able to find a job after divorce. Her earning power will be lower because all those years as a SAHM means years of lost job experience, but many countries have legal protections for this such as alimony. These legal protections did not exist in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:57 PM
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Drive, ambition and passion can come in many forms. It does not necessarily have to be through one’s career. For example, a man can be motivated to ensure his children are raised well and grow up to be happy and successful. This could involve him being heavily personally involved in parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:30 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. You have a fair point that they are not equivalent. I may have used the wrong analogy just now, so let me rephrase. Today, women do have the choice and freedom to work and support themselves. However, there are still a significant number of men looking for stay-at-home wives because they value her care of the home and kids. This is with the knowledge that women today have the freedom to leave the relationship and work to support themselves after leaving, and other modern l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:21 PM
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That is a fair point. Well, we cannot help the biological factors like pregnancy and birth, but things like entertaining, socialization etc are things that men can hypothetically do. If a man does those things as well, will women then consider this arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:46 PM
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It’s understandable that the majority of women wouldn’t be able to fully support a partner financially. But if they are able to, would they at least be willing to bear a greater load of the financial burden while their male partner does more at home? In order for this to work, the male partner has to play his part too and I know a large proportion of men wouldn’t. But it’s be great if women consider that some men do, and select for these men who can do those tasks well, even if they don’t earn m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:38 PM
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And the comparison to men not caring about women’s careers actually undermines your point. Men were historically willing to date lower-earning women because women were expected to make up the difference with unpaid labour and emotional work. It doesn’t undermine my point. I was basically saying, we should encourage women to consider dating men who offer that same unpaid labor and emotional work while not earning much financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:34 PM
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It is better for partners to complement each other by filling each other’s strengths and weaknesses, rather than being too similar to each other. For low-earning men and women alike, it would be good if they both choose partners who earn more than them, while they handle more of the unpaid work at home. This would be an efficient way to divide the workload between them by playing to their strengths. Of course things are not black and white in the real world. They should also consider many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:45 PM
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Because you shouldn’t assume a man can’t be cleaner and help out more with domestic labor. Sure they are a minority, but your generalisation erases this minority which is part of the problem. People usually don’t want to be part of an unrecognised minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:41 AM
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Everyone here is arguing against the wrong point. We should be asking why men shouldn’t also have the freedom to take care of the home and family full-time.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 03:12 PM
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Exactly. This is what we should use international men’s day for: acknowledging and appreciating men’s contributions to society, including in woman-dominated fields.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 03:05 PM
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Some men can’t provide but they can make sure you are well supported, take good care of the home, and raise your kids into healthy, well-mannered adults. It’s a shame that you don’t see this value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:48 PM
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When men look at low-earning women, they usually don’t think of them as ‘low-earning women’. They look at other forms of value the woman provides, through nurture, support, household management or parenting. Women need to start looking at men the same way. And men need to start developing and improving those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:45 PM
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I know a half dozen househusbands — the ones who are as good at it as women are gay Just a suspicion I have from reading this: What if they are not actually gay, but they are simply so passionate about being househusbands that they’ll do anything to become one. They choose to date men because gay men are more likely to accept a househusband?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:29 AM
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Not all men are physically strong. There is a minority of men who are weaker than the average woman. This is by nature and has always been the case. I think this shows that gender role reversal is not unnatural; it is bound to exist in a minority of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:24 AM
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My own mother was a SAHM. She was lazy and did not lift a finger to raise and nurture me. She only did just enough housework to keep the house clean enough that my dad did not complain, and even then my dad had to fill in sometimes. At least on account of my family background, I hope you can accept that I trust myself to maintain the house and raise my kids, more than I can trust a future partner to do it simply because of her gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:43 AM
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I fulfil my role in the family which is a very important role. Every child needs a nurturing figure in their lives to develop healthily, and I know this well because I didn’t have one when I was young. It’s fine if you choose not to date men like me. But it seems you strongly disapprove of the way I choose to contribute to my family, and that gives me the impression that you have anti-family mindsets. I hope you don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:45 AM
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I take pride in being a father and taking care of the home. I will NEVER be a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:41 AM
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When it comes to certain men’s issues that I care about a lot personally (men’s non-financial value, stay at home dads etc), I find that right-wing conservatives are honest opponents and feminists are dishonest allies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 01:05 PM
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Dude, what? If I expect to be treated on a date, it’s because I am offering her non-financial contributions like taking care of her emotional needs, mental load, being a stay at home partner or parent. This is a fair distribution of workload yet we hardly see anyone do it this way. Your suggestion is to expect women to serve and treat you and still allow you to treat them as sexual objects. There is zero chance anyone outside a small group of incels will agree to that.
/r/MensRights10/12/25 03:39 AM
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Can we criminalise women repeatedly trying to “teach” men basic parenting? That’s just as misandrist
/r/MensRights09/12/25 07:34 AM
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Rich women usually don’t look at a poor man and consider “Is he able to take care of our future kids?” They just dismiss the poor man as an option even if he would be an excellent supporting partner to her successful career. It’s not common to find men who would be good supporting partners but if you think about it, it’s very sad for those who are. They never get the chance to use their full potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:04 AM
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They can be nurturing supportive partners looking out for their gf/wife’s subtle emotional needs, working hard to maintain the house and do the chores, devoted to raising their young children. All ways that men can find purpose in their relationships without providing or protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:08 PM
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Do not give in to them. Be your authentic self. Expressing emotions is part of human nature, do not suppress them. Feminist women do not tell each other to “hide your emotions because men don’t like it”. They encourage each other to remain as their true selves. Why can’t men do the same?
/r/MensRights23/11/25 07:24 AM
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…and I am begging for a woman to allow me to do MORE than 50% in childcare and housework, while not also demanding me to earn more than 50% of the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:13 AM
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Women don’t even bother looking for those men who can provide family labor. Even though they exist out there. That’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:54 AM
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While not exactly wrong, this is the equivalent of saying woman executives don’t have the same level of business acumen as their male executive counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:53 AM
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Very few high-earning women bother to think about how a lower-earning man can do for her in non-financial ways. These women simply dismiss lower-earning men as dating options. Some of these men could clearly have the traits of very supportive partners, well-involved fathers etc, and the traits can be crystal clear to anyone who bothers to look for them. But women typically don’t bother looking. It’s a pity because these women can have some really great support if they had such a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:25 AM
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This is why I probably won’t have children. For a long time I’ve wanted to have children because of all the work it takes to raise a child. I want to do it all as the go-to primary parent. I understand that women have to give birth and I empathise fully, but I can’t control that either. If women want to keep the primary parent role for themselves, they are essentially telling me to have kids but forgo the whole purpose of having kids for me. I might as well be childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:11 AM
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Look at the way you denigrate a man who’s passionate about being a father. It’s clear you want to gatekeep the role for women and see him as some sort of invader. Are you insecure that a man loves parenting more than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:58 AM
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The majority of women don’t want to choose men who are big on fatherhood as their partners. You can’t fully blame this issue on men. If a man said that “people need to accept that women generally earn less money for their families”, how would you feel? It’s not factually wrong, but part of the reasons for these are less men wanting career women as partners, and also societal issues preventing women from earning more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:50 AM
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For a woman who wants to have children, raise them and make this their primary task in life, traditionalism is good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:02 PM
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Where do you live where women don’t want to be the primary caretaker? I find that women are often quite intolerant of that. They have to be the primary caretaker because that’s what they were taught to do since young. They’ll never let a man take over that role even if he is better than it than she is. If their husband is better than it than they are, they get insecure in the same way men do when their wife outearns them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:18 AM
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We’re still young and not at the age where we would have kids yet. And don’t mind me asking, why do only men need to prove they can be good parents? Don’t women have to prove it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:37 PM
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Usually it won’t matter whether she thinks I would be a good parent. She won’t let me do it regardless because she wants the role of the main parent for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:49 PM
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Easier said than done when many women want to monopolise the job of parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:48 AM
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Some people still consider it a great privilege to take care of their children full time. And many dedicated family men out there are losing out on this privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:28 AM
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I’m glad these women exist, but sadly they are only a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:25 AM
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Sorry what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:20 AM
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If you choose to disrespect the non-financial family contributions of men while only valuing them when done by women, then you’re just bigoted. I have nothing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:13 AM
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Your assumption is that those men will accept the women’s offers regardless. What if they reject it? I wonder, will women look at them differently if they were virgins by choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:22 AM
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Being a primary caregiver for children is hard work. To me raising children is a great privilege and I am resentful that I will most likely miss out on it because of my gender, but please do not try to imply that it is just slacking off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:06 AM
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And what about the minority of men who want to be primary caregivers? Are women happy to allow them to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:57 AM
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No, a man can be a primary caregiver for his kids, not be a provider and still be contributing greatly to his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:55 AM
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I’m not sure you really got the point of my post. Giving a shit about your kids doesn’t mean you have to personally be their primary caregiver. Some career men carefully choose a wife who has nurturing qualities and will be a good SAHM, because they know they’ll be busy with their career and want their kids to be well taken care of at home. That is also giving a shit about their kids without being the primary caregiver. Most women would never do the same. They have to do the childcare work perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:23 AM
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