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Yea let me just blindly pluck these quotes from a 3 page summary (with no definitions, no methodology) of the original 44 page publication Considering you could not even be assed to link what you are quoting, I don't value how you think I cited things -- I've read the NISVS before, I googled his statements to find a pdf which had what I needed. Generally, the criticism is specific to the "1 in 4 women" statistic, but the definitions for made to penetrate/rape in the survey are the exact same wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:38 PM
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Ok, but both "being penetrated" and "being made to penetrate" are forms of sexual violence/sexually victimize men, right? So having both of those statistics available is less misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:43 PM
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The post said “men are overwhelmingly responsible for sexual violence”. Your response used the NISVS to claim that sexual violence was perpetuated by women against men overwhelmingly. My reply is to point out that your source is widely criticized on here and to show that there are categories where men overwhelmingly perpetuate sexual violence against men. Of course if we break it down and only count “made to penetrate” as violence against men, that will have a higher proportion of women compared…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:31 PM
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Oh, are we going to take everything in the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey at face value now, despite its flaws having widely been dissected here? 90% of the time I see redpillers mention this it's to mock it, I guess that's only the case when it reports about women though: In the U.S., 1 in 4 women and 1 in 26 men reported completed or attempted rape victimization at some point in their lifetime. This number is higher for specific groups. More than 2 in 5 American Indian or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:12 AM
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You gave me 0. 1 of your post is porn and the others are not about how "erotic" it is, which was your original claim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:20 PM
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Wow, it doesn't seem like she finds it erotic at all! So you are admitting you are wrong then and can't find any legitimate examples or evidence for your claim? That is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:18 PM
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Are you using a porn sub as evidence? lmao. I'm not going to defend some porn-brained bullshit -- some people find shitting themselves in diapers erotic. That does not mean its a significant portion of the population There are some men who absolutely idolize and look up to cheating. See the whole "ladies man/Don Draper" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:10 PM
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Your entire premise is wrong — cheaters do not ever actually regret their actions, to the extent where the relationship can be saved, whether it is a man or woman. It may appear more men “regret it” because in general, men and women cheat for different reasons. A male cheater will tend to act differently/more dramatically if caught than a female cheater, but in looking at their actions we can see that neither is truly sincere in their regret, which is why you should always break up with a cheate…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:16 PM
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They left over 2 years ago, close to 3. They have a bunch of “removed by Reddit” posts before they went off site, starting around this one: https://np.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/u7r48f/removed_by_reddit/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:07 PM
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It was. Admins banned some subs which freaked them out and they went into conspiratorial rants about how their sub was threatened by the woman-hating admins https://np.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/hbq4fz/a_very_real_threat/ Edit: also https://np.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/nabz2h/no_brigading_monthly_reminder/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:45 PM
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Right, but part of the reason they took it off site was admin threats, and there is no need to ban or quarantine a dead sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:18 PM
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You mean that sub with no posts on it in 8 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:10 PM
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Women are more likely to be single parents. Children are expensive. Many of these women are left without support from the other parent. Therefore those women are more likely to claim assistance from government programs. a more socially accepted home management style is to have a woman stay home and a man work. This means more men work than women. This means more men are paying taxes, but this does not account for the work women are doing by taking care of and raising good children If you isolate…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:12 AM
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Destiny didn’t lose anything in his divorce from Melina
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:03 PM
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I think it’d be fine to offer free tests, though maybe not mandatory, with the understanding that the tests would also be stored and run against the government’s DNA crime database. Why should murder or rape cases go unsolved due to unidentified DNA if the taxpayers are paying for a program that could address this problem? It’d solve two problems at once — paternity fraud and make crime solving easier. Also we would eventually hit a point where there is enough DNA on file that every persons pate…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:52 PM
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Why would you do that when it obviously biases the result? Did you make the same decision when it gave you back an extremely attractive man? Is it not clear to you that this is a bad faith thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:04 AM
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Indians are common on Reddit (as it is a large English speaking website and India has many English speakers). You definitely see them when there is a post about India specifically on any default sub. I think there are more Indian men here because the big cities in India have huge gender ratio disparities (850 women per 1000 men in Mumbai, for example) and it leads to the type of hopeless thinking that men here tend to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:55 AM
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I feel bad for you if most people you interact with act like children
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:39 PM
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The only women who say this are 13 year old girls (who have a point) and people who never recovered from being a 13 year old girl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:04 PM
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I agree but a lot of young women also believe this about themselves. I think it’s somewhat based on observing “boys will be boys” (/r/justguysbeingdudes) type behavior and seeing it as a sign of immaturity. While this behavior is more noticeable it is not that significant in terms of maturity. Young women are still immature in the most significant metrics — for example, knowing what they want out of life and how to get there, their system of values, and their ability to assert themselves. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:48 PM
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I read a book by an activist for the intersex community, they didn’t always get parental consent to change “abnormal” genitalia, like micro penises or enlarged clitorisis, because it was considered “traumatic” for the parents to know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:10 AM
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You could make that claim about any group. “Parents are pretending to be happy because they are stuck with kids regardless” “married people are pretending to be happy because they don’t want to admit they made a mistake”. If anything single people have the fewest reasons to lie because their unhappiness will only affect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:26 PM
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Sometimes it’s really obvious on this subreddit when someone is still a teen. Please save this and come back to it in like 10 years, it’ll be hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:45 PM
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By saying “that’s feminism” in response, you’re implying that feminism is the reason men are not perceived as good enough. I disagree, and think there it is a broader worldwide issue that men are considered disposable and “not good enough”. If we look at non-feminist places like Russia/India etc, we see that many men are still not considered good enough and are expected to constantly strive against antagonistic systems to be better, even after they have achieved a great amount. Therefore your re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:06 AM
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Then why did you write “it’s actually feminism”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:03 AM
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So the complaint isn't about feminism, its about women's preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:34 PM
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How is this caused by feminism when many non-feminist societies operate the exact same way? Are men allowed to be “good enough” in India/Korea/Saudi Arabia?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:14 PM
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In a mixed group? How did that go
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:59 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20170403094814if_/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf Most bisexual a heterosexual women (89.5% and 98.7%, respectively) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence. Two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:57 AM
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This one was annoying but I managed to find the actual pdf: https://web.archive.org/web/20170403094814if_/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf Img of relevant section: https://i.imgur.com/p22556t.png The CDC needs to fix their website all the pdfs have been broken for months
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:55 AM
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If a woman has a relationship with a man who is abusive, and later comes out as lesbian and from then on only has lesbian relationships, she is a lesbian who has experienced IPV from a man. Edit: Also, lots of bisexual women in the lesbian community identify as lesbians because lesbians tend to assume bisexual women will end up with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:48 AM
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Lesbians don’t like bisexual women/will choose to date exclusively other lesbians (because bisexuals tend to end up with men), so there is pressure in the lesbian community to not identify as a bisexual woman. So some bi women identify as lesbians if they are trying to focus on dating women Edit: clarifications
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:50 AM
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Financial abuse is threatening to take the house over your head/food away. Like giving the bare minimum required for groceries and getting mad at how much they cost (with the earning spouse buying themselves takeout). Or putting the non-earning spouse in charge of bills and then not giving them the money to pay them. Just making every interaction with money extremely stressful/difficult, and making it impossible for the non-earning spouse to get a job (not paying for daycare/emotionally abusing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:34 AM
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I don’t think it’s true that most men are that unattractive to most women. If a man says/does the right things in the right contexts (and is not viscerally unattractive) then they can become attractive. I’ve never seen a man I immediately had sexual thoughts about. I have known men that I wanted to have sex with after I got more comfortable around them. Obviously I don’t speak for every woman but I think this isn’t that uncommon (I see a lot of girls identify as “demisexual” which is basically w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:28 AM
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Statistically when women can take a man's house, they do Show me the statistics Sounds irrelevant and out dated. Why would a successful man tie his financials to someone who isn't so successful? Makes no sense. Women needed men for income in the past, women can get a job just fine now. Outdated concept women misuse and take advantage of men with. Don't tie your life to an unsuccessful person? Easy solution Your original claim was "Women initiate most divorces presumably because they decide they …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:33 AM
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... the whole point of a prenup is to protect the interests of both parties and lay out a guideline for how assets should be split in the case of a divorce. It isn't just a "get out of marriage free" card, and that view of it is why most prenups are thrown out. Someone should not get married to a person they think is a gold digger or if they are unable to trust their future spouse. Regardless of their proven trustworthiness, if someone chooses to marry a person, then they are agreeing to tie the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:55 AM
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Prenups won’t be thrown out if you involve lawyers and ensure they are fair to both sides. The prenups that get thrown out are like back of the napkin “I keep everything earned after we get married and the stay at home parent gets nothing” type things that obviously are one sided Statistically men are far more likely to lose their house than a woman is likely to end up homeless. Statistically the woman is worse off after divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:21 AM
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I don’t believe this is true. Point 1 doesn’t make sense, all a woman has to do is make a profile that says “hookups only” or something on Tinder and she’ll get a million matches. Point 2 doesn’t make sense, because if the point is just to have casual sex, “getting used” doesn’t factor into it I think women in general just don’t like casual sex, because it carries more actual risk for them (STDs, injuries, pregnancy) and because they are less likely to derive pleasure from it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:47 PM
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I think we have a fundamental disagreement on both the maturity of young women and the difficulty of raising children. Raising children is extremely difficult, even more difficult to do with empathy and control, especially when you are young. Women save fine for the OE in their teens. I don’t know what “OE” stands for And honestly, a women who can't save while earning at age 20+ shouldn't even be having kids anyway. I agree, and since most young women are bad at saving they shouldn’t be encourag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:29 PM
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Young women seem to be alright at saving money from what I've seen. Especially if they have a goal. Young people, in general, are bad at saving money. This is a fact. A young woman will not save money for children — she does not want them, they are not a desirable goal in her perspective. Once again, why do you think women will go into ECE? You say they waste their time at university partying, they will likely do the same without university. Regardless of partner choice, young women are more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:00 PM
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I think it’s good for a woman to go to university or begin working for the same reason I think it is good for a man to go to university or begin working — it is an important step in developing independence and an identity separate from your childhood identity. It is part of the process of growing up. Without doing this, many people remain immature and overly reliant on their parents. A woman who has worked in ECE savings money for 5 years How many teens do you know that save money so vigilantly?…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:28 PM
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If this is your belief, why would you think it’s a good idea for women to have children before they are ready? Many people who have kids before they are ready hate the children and make terrible parents. That irresponsibility you mention in your post won’t just go away after they have a kid, and now will effect two people instead of just one. If a women really wants a child when she is 30, she is likely more prepared to raise it well, vs at 20-23, when she does not have a good grip on the world …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:09 PM
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My point is that you made vague allusions to “emotional abuse” but did not define it anywhere, except that it is defended as “women talking”. You’re free not converse with me, I don’t think my assumptions are unfounded based on your comments so far. It’s a good idea in a debate sub to concretely stake out your claims and not leave them in the abstract, as there is nothing you have said to disprove anything I have assumed. Have a nice day 👍 Edit: he blocked me. Gonna point out a) I asked him for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:13 PM
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That is something men here claim: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/I8oa0VFf9f emotional/psychological abuse men receive from women as simply "women talking," What does this mean then? Emotional abuse is directed at someone. It would not be a conversation between women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:43 PM
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Then you are free to clarify your comment Edit: specifically what behavior you are calling emotional abuse from women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:10 PM
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How are women emotionally abusing you? Is there a woman who is ruining your entire reputation and ostracizing you from your friend group? Because that would be abusive. Disagreeing with you online or telling you no is not abusive. You can then downplay the emotional/psychological abuse men receive from women as simply "women talking If you think women posting bad things online about men is emotional or psychological abuse, would you concede the same for men posting bad things about women online?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:31 PM
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The responsibility should be on both men and women, the whole population. Which is the case if women are taking care of and supporting the children, and men are also required to take care of and support the children
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:20 PM
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Ok. I agree it’s not smart to hook up while drunk (and I don’t think it’s a good idea to casually hook up at all). My point is that the vast majority of hookups with strangers/acquaintances would not happen sober, in any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:25 AM
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Uh, yes, do not have sex with someone who is passed out… Let me be clearer— only people who have a good grip on social interactions already and can understand body language should do this. If someone is autistic they probably won’t be able to have hookups, because interactions with strangers are less defined than with people you know. I am not saying you should go home with someone wasted. I am not saying that the person should be pressured into going home together. They should be showing intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:33 AM
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It’s creepy behavior to be sober and to methodically pursue drunk women. If you start a night semi sober, start talking to a semi sober woman, build up some repoire, have another drink or two together, and then go home together, that’s a normal thing that happens at parties and bars all over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:46 AM
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The reason women do not want to be agreeable is that it was shown that it inevitably leads to being exploited. If a man is agreeable and goes along with what other people want, is that man likely to be rewarded? No. The same applies to agreeable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:37 AM
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(Some groups of) men did demonize being agreeable. If a woman tries to avoid confronting a pushy man, they are blamed by men for leading him on. If a woman trusts a strange man, and he exploits that trust and hurts her, they are blamed by men for trusting him. If a woman marries and has children with a man, and he is a deadbeat, and he pushes her boundaries every day until she breaks, she is told she should have picked better. Men make it clear that agreeable women are fools. If a woman confront…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:21 AM
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I think the number of people doing this entirely sober is over exaggerated. The women I know who do app hookups talk on the app over some time then meet the man first, sober, in public, making it not a one night stand. Then usually drink or smoke or sth when they go to whoever’s apartment. They have situationships/FWBs and obviously have sex sober then. I mean, I don’t hookup, but I have to imagine that meeting a stranger and then just fucking them is really awkward? Like I have a hard time conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:28 AM
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If a man is agreeable and does everything a woman wants, does that behavior get rewarded? Why do you think men would treat a pushover woman any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:04 AM
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Nah that’s not specific, you see stories like that all over women’s subreddits, it’s sort of like men’s “divorce horror stories” in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:02 AM
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Well there's your problem. You have to be social and act low inhibition if you want to be around low inhibition women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:29 PM
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What stops you from going to spaces with lower inhibition women, such as clubs/festivals? Edit: One thing I didn't really focus on is that there are more low-inhibition men than low-inhibition women in general. That is why men are more likely to participate in high-risk activities like extreme sports or dangerously goof off (a la /r/WhyWomenLiveLonger). Which means the demand for low inhibition women is higher, so they get to choose more attractive men and men that superficially appear high stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:59 PM
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Yeah, I think the men here are very high inhibition, and are looking at/crushing on either high inhibition women (who they have more in common with, but are even less likely to have sex or make it easy for them to approach) or low inhibition women, who they have nothing in common with and who won't be interested in someone who is sober, anxious/neurotic (viewed as judgmental), and doesn't like to go to the club. The big complaints here I see are basically that there is no easy way for high inhib…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:04 AM
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Made to penetrate is defined and reported separately in the survey, here is the definition on the same page -- Being made to penetrate someone else (asked of males only) includes times when a victim was made to, or an attempt was made to make them, sexually penetrate someone without the victim’s consent because the victim was physically forced (such as being pinned or held down, or by the use of violence) or threatened with physical harm, or when the victim was too drunk, high, drugged, or passe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:21 AM
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too drunk, high, drugged, or passed out from alcohol or drugs What makes you think this could be "without any qualifications for what that means". If someone read off this definition, in full, no reasonable person would come away with the impression that "too drunk, high, drugged, or passed out from alcohol or drugs and unable to consent" could mean one drink. It's right next to being physically threatened or held down, and being passed out. Being "unable to consent" implies their mental state i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:46 AM
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It seems clearer in context that the words "unable to consent" reference being drunk to the point of being unresponsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:35 AM
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Here is how that survey defined it: "Rape is any completed or attempted unwanted vaginal (for women), oral, or anal penetration through the use of physical force (such as being pinned or held down, or by the use of violence) or threats to physically harm and includes times when the victim was too drunk, high, drugged, or passed out from alcohol or drugs and unable to consent. Rape is separated into three types: 1) completed forced penetration, 2) attempted forced penetration, and 3) completed al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:31 AM
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I found your survey here: Almost one in four undergraduate women experienced sexual assault or misconduct at 33 of the nation's major universities. Here is how they defined rape or assault in the survey: Physical assault/rape: “…. someone holding you down with his or her body weight, pinning your arms, hitting or kicking you, or using or threatening to use a weapon against you.” Here is they defined the inability to consent or stop what was happening "was defined with the following introduction:…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:13 AM
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Did people here not know this? It’s easier to hook up with low inhibition people. Alcohol artificially lowers inhibition. I have never heard of a sober one night stand. Gen Z has less hookups because the people in it drink less alcohol and go out party less (and therefore do not partake in harder and even more inhibition lowering drugs). The people here go on about how drug dealers/criminals are able to get women — those are men with low inhibition/impulsive behavior, and the women they end up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:52 AM
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For the non-clickers: About one in three men experienced contact sexual violence, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner during their lifetime. Nearly 56% of men who were victims of contact sexual violence, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner first experienced these or other forms of violence by that partner before age Nearly one in four men in the U.S. experienced some form of contact sexual violence in their lifetime. About one in 14 men in the U.S. wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:41 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:21 AM
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Women being wary of men is not just biology. Women do not start out wary of strange men. If a woman makes the mistake of trusting the wrong man, she is blamed, and learns in the future to be extremely wary. Other women also see this cycle (woman tells story and is blamed) and internalize it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:46 PM
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What did I say that was hateful of men? Sounds like you can't stand criticism of your viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:41 AM
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If men really respected mothers, why do they constantly degrade and look down upon the mother of their children/their wives? Or women in general, does motherhood magically erase the “hypergamous, emotional, and selfish” nature of women that red pillers here constantly harp on about? You would think there would be kinder words for the contributions and thoughts of people you expect to rise to the exalted class of motherhood. The occasional condescending “nice” comment tossed towards a woman who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:37 AM
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I think yall are talking past eachother. A lot of men will take out the trash and mow the lawn, and try to act like that is an equivalent to daily house chores. If the man is basically a general contractor, and regularly upgrades things around the house, and fixing the plumbing/roof/fences/mowing/taking out the trash/car stuff, then I agree that could be a fair exchange, and think most people could see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:58 PM
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2% of women in the united states do OF The only thing I can find that claims this says the following: Of the 3 million “creators” on OnlyFans, the site reports that 67% of revenue goes to Americans. While the overwhelming majority of revenue goes to a minority of high-performing content creators, let’s assume, on average, that this revenue share can be extrapolated to mean that roughly 2 million Americans are OnlyFans creators. According to the site, 70% of creators are women, and 30% are men, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:38 AM
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Most middle schoolers aren’t fucking each other so it doesn’t count, because there is no risk of them having the more serious relationship convos (pregnancy scares/birth control/what they want for the future and what that means for their relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:03 AM
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There’s more to it than dating experience — I think more important than anything is her support network (is she in a new area for the first time/has she got friends and family close by)? How good is she at asserting herself? People are usually bad at that in their early 20s and a lot better at it in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:02 AM
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Women start out giving men the benefit of the doubt. That goes away once you either watch other women be betrayed or are betrayed yourself. There’s lots of men out there who get upset at the idea that a woman is automatically suspicious of a man she just met. But lots of men will admit that it is the only smart play afterwords, like you do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:16 PM
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Ronda Rousey or a man may be able to beat you up, but you have not been conditioned to fear that as much as women are conditioned to be cautious of men. False rape claims are something men in this subreddit are conditioned to fear, from what I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:01 PM
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My scenario does start out with the woman biased against men, but I tried to account for it — she only accuses you with the same likelihood that a man would hurt a woman in my stipulations. I fully acknowledge that very, very few men would hurt a woman they encountered in the forest. The point is more that nothing would stop them if they desired to do so, but there are barriers that would keep a woman from hurting a man, that can’t be easily overcome, in terms of strength. I guess I could ask wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:44 AM
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The problem (and why the stipulations are needed) is that men have an innate physical advantage against women. Men are stronger than women. That is where the root of the disparity lies and why many women see the difference between a man vs a bear as psychological question vs a question of physical damage — both are fully capable of killing you. All that matters is how much you can control their motivation and long term psychological impact. There is nothing a woman has against a man that is simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:06 AM
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Why would it be wrong to put a man in a hypothetical situation that may inspire some psychological fear? If a man answers bear, I do not think there is anything wrong with his ability to reason. The fact is that we live in a safe society, far away from any real danger or fights for survival. If a man answers bear, he is simply prioritizing the fear he may come up against everyday vs the more distant but more physically damaging fear. There is nothing wrong with that in my view. Whether or not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:48 AM
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He asked for a justification for getting into the hypothetical, I provided one. If you do not like the proposed situation you can disregard it, none of it is necessary for my actual question. What do you think I said that was misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:17 AM
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Ok, let me add justification — you are in the woods because you love to hike. While walking through the forest, you see a rare bird, and as a bird enthusiast, you go after it to get a photograph and status in the bird watcher community. If you get a photo of the bird it will get you a Wikipedia article as a really cool dude who saw a rare bird one time. While following the bird, you wander off the trail. By the time you come to your senses, you have no idea where the trail is anymore. Your phone…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:03 AM
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Whatever type of bear you prefer, or what you think women imagine in their hypothetical (I personally lean towards a grizzly bear). Obviously a black bear greatly lowers the risk of a mauling. Grizzly bears do not guarantee that you are mauled but raise that chance significantly. Either way the bear will fuck you up if it decides to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:38 AM
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Thanks, I try ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:34 AM
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Your reframing doesn’t make sense in the way most people understand the question. The bear has much lower chance of mauling you than 99%. Honestly I think a random man is less likely to rape a random woman than 1 in 100 but idk. The original question does seem to request an emotional answer, but that is part of the appeal — you are able to frame the question in different ways based upon your understanding of the world. The ambiguity of the question opens up the discussion, and makes it much more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:33 AM
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Idk fate or something makes you do so, whatever force compels anyone to answer a hypothetical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:12 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:56 AM
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Being in the woods with a bear isnt a 99% chance of dying. Most bears do not attack people. The woods are their home and they have other, more familiar food sources. Both a bear mauling and a random unknown man raping and killing you have remote chances of happening. The comparison then becomes about what you psychologically fear the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:55 AM
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Woods are difficult to sneak in. There is a large amount of underbrush you will inevitably strike and be heard in. Your only hope is standing still and hoping the woman does not stumble upon you, but because this is a hypothetical I created and control, she will inevitably will find you. Because the woman has a gun, your vengeance will be stopped by the Samuel Colt equality act
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:41 AM
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Where have I defended a false rape accusation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:08 AM
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She has hearing, if she hears you she will walk over, and know who you are. Plus, I can come back from psychological damage (I have been bullied in the past and made it through without any help) but not death. Then your answer is the woman regardless of any other justifications, if your interest is solely in decreasing your risk of death, which is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:07 AM
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I would be willing to acknowledge that Amber Heard is a cult leader, if you are able to present evidence that she has controversial opinions that people regularly seek out and defend. I would say it’s more likely that defending Amber Heard is a convenient prop for people to use in their own ideological arguments, and they have no interest in her otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:59 AM
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Why do you believe that to be false? Is there data on how frequently a woman who believes it is morally ok to falsely accuse a man of rape would do so to a random man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:54 AM
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Evading the woman makes no difference, she knows who you are (see stipulations). Phone batteries won’t be able to record a full 48 hours (time interval originally proposed for the man vs bear scenario)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:50 AM
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Additional stipulations: You can’t hurt the woman or do anything to sway her opinion in one direction or the other The woman is less likely to falsely accuse you than the bear is to attack you, the probability is roughly equal to the probability a random man would attack a woman in the forest. The woman has a gun and will fatally shoot you if she thinks you are threatening, at roughly the probability of a random man deciding to kill a woman. I addressed this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:44 AM
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How is that relevant to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:39 AM
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I think the level people are taking this discussion to is a bit over the top. I think both the women who die-hard defend the bear are hysterical, but I also think some people are leaping to conclusions that the question does not imply and maybe are a bit too upset about it in general. First, the chances of being hurt when you are stuck in the woods with a bear or a man is minimal. 99% of bear encounters do not result in being mauled. Yes, bears are much more likely to seriously hurt you, and muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:43 PM
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Generally when people call someone an internet “cult leader” they mean the person both has a large number of controversial opinions and their followers will defend every bad take or action of that person. People do that for Andrew Tate. It’s not the same as someone being popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:43 PM
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Is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:39 PM
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My apologies, will fix
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:13 PM
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All risks can be swiftly ended with rope. The benefits are not available through any other way. A trad wife who would abandon their child by killing themselves, leaving them without a mother, would be a horrible trad mom Edit: took out “you statements”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:31 PM
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The red pill is not just that. The origins of the red pill are that women are inferior (dumber, less deserving of rights, less capable of reason) than men. The rhetoric surrounding the red pill still promotes this narrative, and contributes to black pill thinking. See this comment by the founder of the red pill on how women shouldn’t vote/are mentally teenagers/don’t contribute to society https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1bav9c/mod_almost_3000_users_and_a_message_from_the/c959tyk/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:02 AM
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kek (are you seriously suggesting that a job that really helps finding romantic partner?) If you are just trying to hook up it doesn’t matter, unless you are also living at home, which will kill that. The type of person who is out drinking and partying/looking for a ONS isn’t going to care if a guy is employed as long as they are attractive. If you are looking for a relationship a lot of women won’t date an unemployed guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:31 PM
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As a social critique it doesn’t make sense. In this sub, it’s pretty uncommon for people to believe there are no differences between men and women. Everyone can see the physical differences between men and women. Men as a whole are stronger than women as a whole, this is an indisputable fact. Women are smaller than men. Women have smaller hands and less grip strength than men. The types of jobs outlined are designed for men in every part of their work. Specialized tools are used everyday in thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:38 AM
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Ok fair enough that was kind of rude
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:36 PM
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So you blame women because you were bad at sex due to your porn addiction? What about you was attractive to women in high school? It’s not like they conspired to make you unattractive or ignored you maliciously. Edit: I wasn’t even vaguely interested in sex in high school. Idk how it holds for all/most women but the ones I’ve spoken to who had sex then had it before they actually wanted to due to pressure from their boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:28 PM
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Isn't a greater problem that your dad didn't step up and take care of you when your mom was going out and making money? This is one of the reasons women in the past had such a hangup about dating guys who earn less, (some) men act as if all they can offer is a paycheck, and when they can't do that they don't try to do more and you might as well have no one else there. I had a similar situation growing up and my mom worked to give me a great life, paid for my school, the great neighborhoods we li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:59 PM
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Do you even know what this comment thread is about? The discussion on this comment thread in particular was if older men have a disadvantage because of their looks, which is generally true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:26 PM
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I mean I’m in my 20s, I understand he may be more attractive now to certain people but I don’t see it and neither do my closest friends. I don’t think he was still physically developing in his 30s? And my point with the photo of his body was more that it was your basic old guy body, nothing is wrong with that, but there are a lot of guys in their 20s that look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:07 PM
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Yeah, I mean it’s fair to say I don’t speak for all women. I have a friend who is 24 with a 35 year old Harry Potter looking nerdy guy she out earns so I’m not saying my views on attraction are universal. I’m just saying in general it’s misleading to tell men they’ll still look great in their 40s and 50s compared to their 20s and 30s, which is something I see in a lot of RP communities and is on the level of “just be nice and have a good job!” in terms of being misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:31 PM
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Sorry no. I looked up old George Clooney photos and his problem was the hair style — he is more attractive here and here in his 30s than he is here I looked up the other guy and no, not even close, is this some weird internet belief, like all woman read cosmo? Because this guy does not look better in the after https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fu0iwt5yxylub1.jpg Also I’m deeply disturbed by the idea of Patrick Stewart being a sex symbol. I will say there are guys who look…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:14 PM
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Yes, sure, some men start working out and stop drinking or something and look better in their 40s and 50s. But I’ve never seen a man that always took care of himself look better in his 40s than he did in his late 20s to early 30s. Just to note I’m still young, I guess when I’m old I might find old guys attractive vs their young selves, but that’s the basic contention for me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:47 PM
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Just gonna throw this out there, Leo DiCaprio isn’t amazingly handsome anymore to young women. He was handsome, not disputing it, but he looks like this https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/940x/secondary/Leonardo-Dicaprio-5177533.jpg?r=1706023982070 https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/06/NYPICHPDPICT000012631553.jpg Age has clearly done a number on him, his face is really round now. Here’s a younger him for comparison: https://s2.r29static.com/bin/entry/84e/x,80/18841…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:35 PM
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An old man will almost never be the best option because he will be ugly compared to younger men to a young woman. Even if she does go for him for practical reasons (ie wealth) he still won’t be as sexually attractive as a large percent of younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:53 AM
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Repeating my comment from the last thread — That doesn’t break it down by age. What percent of under-30s expect this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:50 PM
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Isn’t that more of a universal truth for men and women? Very attractive women do less to get commitment from men. Very very attractive women are given things and opportunities normal women don’t get. An ugly looking woman could never compete with a beautiful woman. If men had the same number of sex options as women, they would prioritize sleeping with and dating only hot women, not ugly women. Idk how men get the idea that looks don’t matter at all. Do you not have eyes and a brain? In school, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:28 PM
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I wouldn’t call out a woman who sleeps around, why the fuck would I care? As far as cheating or manipulating/abusing a partner, you should call them out, but calling them a hoe is counterproductive, because the assumption is that someone is just biased against women when that term is used.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:31 PM
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That doesn’t break it down by age though. What percent of under-30s expect this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:22 PM
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Ig just to clarify for guys in my age range (21-30) that I’m regularly around about half are in the middle category and half are in the lower category. A good chunk of lower category guys can probably reach the middle category if they fix some obvious problems (too fat or skinny is the big one, hygiene or bad hairstyle/greasy hair, bad teeth, skin problems). If I was semi generous and assumed they fixed those problems I might put 65-70% in the middle category. I’ve met 2 guys in the last categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:50 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:28 AM
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I guess if he asks and he hasn’t already done something to make himself unattractive then I would go on a date, and based on that decide if I thought I wanted to continue seeing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:25 AM
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Why would I not consider myself blue pill? Blue pill is just having beliefs that don’t align with the red pill. I have beliefs that don’t align with the red pill, so I am blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:12 AM
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A man below the line is a “fuck no”. A man at the line is a “maybe if other things are attractive and we are compatible to date” a man very very far above the line is a “a good chance even if there are some problems, unless there are factors that mean I’m not looking to date”. There is not a scale out of 10 in which men are rated. If someone is on the line they are rounded down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:54 AM
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Breasts and penises are not anywhere near as taboo. In media, how often do you see breasts? How often do you see penises? It’s way more common to see breasts because there is less of a stigma and it is less shocking to the viewer/less likely to put them off the show. A closer equivalent is a man’s bare ass. Which probably won’t get someone arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:15 PM
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Eh men aren’t that good at being friends most of the time but yeah it’s easier
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:13 PM
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Yep making friends with other women when you are autistic is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:03 PM
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I wouldn’t do this, it’s a bad idea for obvious reasons. If I had to steel man this I’d assume the woman who think they’d do this are imagining a man who makes significantly more than them, to the point where their income doesn’t impact QoL as much, and they may believe it’s more fulfilling to just raise children (especially if they hate their job). It puts them in a seriously vulnerable position, but if they are naive about potential consequences/are in love/trust their partner they probably th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:15 AM
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What percent of men work on fishing trawlers? What percent of people need to do the dishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:23 PM
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Men without jobs or who can’t stay employed will absolutely try to exploit women for money. Look up “hobosexual”. I also read stories from women whose husbands can’t stay employed. Any woman who dates an unemployed guy or a guy who isn’t clear about his job is an idiot imo. Thats how you end up with a freeloader.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:57 PM
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If you don’t have a job I’d assume you’re trying to freeload off me. Get a job then start dating, unless you are both in college or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:40 PM
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Sounds like you’re unemployed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:27 PM
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I made 180k last year according to my w2. I am a software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:54 AM
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There’s a guy on here who has probably dozens of comments on how women should be “healthy (19-21 BMI)” written exactly like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:38 AM
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Intelligence in men MIT has 35% virgins, compared to average college around 20% virgin The only survey I could find for this says the following: Our survey found that 42 percent of students consider themselves virgins: 37 percent of men and 48 percent of women. source Intelligent people are more likely to be high inhibition. High inhibition people are less likely to engage in behavior that leads to sex — either the “drink, do drugs, and party” way or the “ask someone out” way, because they’re li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:08 AM
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What convinces you that immigrant women won’t try to demand the freedom to choose their own partners themselves, or not be forced to rely on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:02 AM
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Women won’t overtly test something or exclude someone for not being as familiar with a group activity/hobby as they are but if someone fails to conform to the group “vibes” (style/social skills/lifestyle or viewpoint wise) they will be excluded somewhat quickly or the group will disband and reform to exclude that person. Basically if the new girl gives the group the ick. I’ve seen a guy version of this exclusion as well but they’re overall more permissive of being deficient in one of these area…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:22 PM
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Your claim is not something that women are saying. You seem to be proposing something like a reward system, where if a man starts doing the dishes he will immediately be propositioned. (Chores = sex). Instead, when women comment things like “he’d probably have more sex if he picked up after himself once in awhile” etc, they are saying that a man’s lack of care about household chores is causing them stress and resentment. No one wants to have sex while stressed with the source of the stress/someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:43 PM
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Tinder is a hookup app, she isn’t evaluating anyone’s personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:29 AM
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That’s the point, even if the men did earn more money, they are still unattractive vs being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:41 AM
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Yep, in the past women were kept from high paying careers and forced to rely on men’s money. This means they were generally stuck with men they did not like. Thankfully now there are more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:25 AM
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The argument is that even if there was a hot man with a lot of money interested, some women would still choose to be single, because they have “enough” money on their own. Ie once you reach a certain threshold the desire for a rich man decreases because you can provide for yourself and stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:09 AM
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Same. My dad “stayed at home”/worked part time while my mom earned 10x his income. We had a house cleaner come 3x a week. Mom made dinner and breakfast. Mom set up and took us to all doctors appointments. Mom helped us pick out extracurriculars and found us tutors and went to all our events. Basically all dad did was pick us up/drop us off after school and take us to extracurriculars (we were also in after school care when we were much younger idk what he did most of the time). My mom cooked din…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:06 PM
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Here is another one: women complain about how they are treated as sex objects all of the time, but if you read Cosmo or TwoXChromosomes, the overwhelming majority of the content is about who or what goes in or out of their vaginas. None of the posts in TwoXChromosomes right now are doing anything that sexualizes women. The posts are all about partner problems or periods or similar. Sexualization is when you are thinking about a person only in terms of sexual desire or sexual characteristics, to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:07 PM
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No, it's because they don't want to be tied down. They want to make their own money so they can spend it on frivolous shit, which they couldn't do in the 1800s, as there was not enough frivolous shit available and work/life was too hard to go alone. Single men and women are about equally likely to spend money on frivolous shit. Ie “Single male consumers spend an average of $43,299 per year. Single female consumers spend an average of $42,174.” What a coincidence that women decided they were tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:31 PM
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Imagine that, it wasn't until work became super easy, free time ample, and money could by lots of amazing gizmos and recreational activities that women started fighting to escape their prescribed roles of not being the ones to break their backs laboring in the mines. This doesn’t even make sense. All those gizmos and shit, and the preference of both men and women to have fewer children, mean it’s way easier to just be a housewife nowadays than it is to be working [edit: though I am not discounti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:28 AM
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These are examples of tools that are useful and were inaccessible to women. A woman on her own could not finance a home — that means she could not own a property unless she bought it in cash outright or inherited it. That makes it more difficult to be independent. You realize that bank accounts were not widespread before WW2 Personal bank accounts were widespread by the 1970s however. You also can’t easily hide/save significant amounts of cash from someone who lives in a home with you and you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:48 PM
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Women could not control when they got pregnant in the context of a marriage because marital rape was not illegal. It was also legal to fire a woman after she got pregnant, so she would basically be stuck. Additionally a woman would have difficulty trying to live alone because they were not allowed to finance their own home or to get credit cards/bank accounts in their own name. Before 1970s domestic violence against women/children was not prosecuted unless someone died (or nearly did).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:48 PM
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This is about actions and stated values not aligning — A man may demonstrate that he does not desire chastity, both by attempting to have meaningless sex and also praising women who have meaningless sex with him — meanwhile he says that he does value chastity and thinks having meaningless sex is indicative of poor judgement. Similarly, a woman may demonstrate that she does not desire wealth, both by going into a career with few job prospects and pursuing men who are attractive but poor — meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:43 AM
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Sometimes they are. Sometimes they aren't This is intellectually dishonest. The men going to these countries are looking for women “above” them in attractiveness, vs what they could draw in their own country, utilizing something they were born with (their country citizenship). You can see numerous statements on this in the passport bro subreddit. This displays male hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:29 PM
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You have presented no evidence backing your claim at all. It doesn’t seem like you are capable of making a rational argument, all I’ve seen so far is misguided anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:14 PM
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Muslims however do not make up the majority of Sweden — why would a country with a relatively small number of Muslims have almost the same birth rate as a majority Muslim country, if the only factor in declining birth rates is feminism? That makes no sense. You do not even try to address the fact that East Asian countries have much stricter gender roles and even lower birth rates than western countries. How am I cherry picking stats? It’s clear there are a large number of non-feminist countries …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:17 PM
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Japan hardly classifies as a very feminist country. Norway/Sweden/Denmark/the UK/etc are all more “feminist” but have higher birth rates. Can you explain the decline of the Saudi Arabian, Iranian, and Turkish birth rates, with the latter two not even being at replacement, despite the limits on women’s rights in those countries? For comparison, the Iranian birth rate is 1.71, the birth rate in the USA is 1.64. Sweden, the “most feminist” country, has a birth rate of 1.61. Further countries like Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:34 AM
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You can get a job with regular hours and still see your wife frequently. You can’t make straight porn without a woman getting nude and having sex on camera. As an aside, is AI advancement going to make porn “vegans” who only consume drawn/generated/written content? Wouldn’t this solve a lot of the problems with the porn industry (sex trafficking/trauma/public reputation wise)? Putting aside the tendency of the people using it right now to use actual woman’s faces
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:45 AM
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Graph from article: https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/image-article_inline_full/public/blogs/142736/2014/01/142999-144363.jpg?itok=424CK7CB
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:18 PM
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I’ve never operated in a space that advocated for killing all men, is that a Twitter thing? Reddit is basically the extent of my social media usage for strangers. None of the more radfem spaces I peruse use that rhetoric either. Not to discount it, that is an upsetting sentiment, and there is no justification for it. I would need you to point out feminist literature which advocates for removing male rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:44 AM
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As a manospherian I think the issue isn't an assumption that "almost all women will do X/Y/Z." Rather, the issue is almost any woman can do X/Y/Z and be socially enabled to get away with it. It isn't "most women will" but "any woman can." And because men have the most to lose, they're going to be more risk-averse That is how woman normally view men. I don’t see any problem with acting with caution. My main concern with these online communities is that it is done bitterly and blames women’s right…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:15 PM
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I don’t agree women’s online spaces have been doing so longer. The manosphere is just the formalization of a male online space — the entirety of the internet used to be a male online space. Back then red pill like rhetoric was still in usage, but under other names (if named at all) and no large specific communities. Not to mention the mainstream press also tends to adopt such gynocentric views (even if it’s just to sell magazines). I think this is not accurate when it comes to how men’s views ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:06 AM
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The first one I believe — if you aren’t attractive to someone, you won’t even get in the door (true). If you have a shitty personality, they’ll probably get sick of it at some point and leave. The second one sounds… made up? Is the context of this that the rich guy is a serial killer or something? Doesn’t a lot of mainstream media signal how rich men have so many options in dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:33 AM
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I think the problem is that by only pointing on women’s flaws, the Red Pill makes women the out group. In doing so the way men view women becomes adversarial. This prevents consumers of RP content from forming healthy relationships, because trust is required in that and you cannot trust an adversary. So RP encourages short term or unhealthy relationships. You increasingly see the same things in women’s online spaces, where a fault in a woman’s actions will go unacknowledged (for “support” reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:45 PM
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I am confused what your contention here is with my comment. I obviously like arguing so I’ll respond anyway: They also talk about BP men as being men who are "delusional about female nature" and do not believe that money, looks, "game", and status are very important towards dating success for men as much as being a good person. I do not believe the group of people that believe this is large, and is certainly not large enough to be “mainstream society”, as blue pill is meant to represent. The onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:47 AM
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You can’t imagine a scenario where someone has been dealing with their moms care for a long time and doesn’t want to pause their life until she gets better? Or maybe they want to keep their mind off things rather than sitting at home worrying about it? She might have even felt safe/connected to this man before he proved he was unable to give her 5 minutes of grace for something important to her. I guess one could argue she wasn’t in an emotional state for a date and the man was expecting her to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:37 PM
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“Blue pill” was made up to stand in for any non-red pill ideology. It’s like in religion you have believers and non-believers, and non-believers can have a variety of other opinions, or even follow a different religion. There is no true consistency in blue pill beliefs, except that they cannot directly agree with the red pill, because it was made as a catch all for non-red pill beliefs. Therefore any non-RPer in a relationship is a blue pill success story. As far as what most people believe, a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:40 AM
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Dating advice subreddits/aita/drama subs are definitely women populated subreddits. Relationship drama tends to be a women focused space. Something like livestreamfails or streamer subs would be the male occupied version of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:21 AM
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Listen, you can’t go to a woman-heavy sub, say no fatties, and complain when you get downvoted. It’s like if a woman went on the manosphere subs and talked about how she would never date someone below 6’1. It’s just rude and out of place in that social context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:06 AM
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That sounds like a transaction, not attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:45 PM
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Drug addicts date drug dealers. To a drug addict, a drug dealer is a high status provider who doesn’t judge. This makes him “a good man” from the perspective of the addicted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:43 PM
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Why do people here always act shocked that drug dealers are able to attract drug addicted women? People with addictions will go to people who can feed those addictions. Idk any sober woman who would fuck a drug dealer/finds that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:32 PM
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Women are blamed if they are not cautious and get hurt. People telling you not to wear provocative clothing “or else” or watching a woman get blamed when she is in an abusive marriage, or left a single mother, drives a lot more paranoia than whatever the tiny percentage of “misandrist feminists” say. No one wants to be that girl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:23 PM
9

The men here are mostly below average, possibly looks wise but definitely socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:40 PM
4

Yeah I was on Reddit in this early/mid-2010s “feminist golden era” and the red pill stuff was just as popular, but didn’t have the same terminology/was often framed in a “just kidding” kind of way Ie https://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1bshx3/what_is_something_you_envy_about_the_opposite_sex/c99n4b5/ (Bonus racist Asian caricature) https://np.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3ht7ep/shitty_lock/ https://np.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1k80tc/saw_this_at_a_feminist_rally/ Something similar to red…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:43 AM
3

How is it controlling if old women are just telling young women about their experiences? If the woman chooses to ignore those warnings or believes the man she is interested in is different then there is nothing that keeps her from acting on her interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:21 AM
2

Looks like the suicide rate is on the decline for women in Korea though over the past decade, so Korea’s high suicide rate doesn’t seem correlated to the 4B movement: https://www.statista.com/statistics/789374/south-korea-suicide-death-rate-by-gender/#statisticContainer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:07 PM
4

Eh back in like 2015ish I had some friends who were weirdly obsessed with him so I think there are people he appeals to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:11 PM
3

Benedict Cumberbatch is pretty weird looking but also popular. But I guess he is also a tall in shape white guy so probably also doesn’t prove OPs point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:28 PM
1

I think there’s always been some percent of people who fail to apply critical thinking when reading or seeing things on the internet. Like the people who fell for “bonsai kittens” etc in earlier internet days. Though boomers and young people seem more likely to become radicalized by the tailored content they view.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:13 PM
-1

Edit: was unhappy with some wording so changed it So here, you have 2 issues: 1) the legal system does not equally punish men and women 2) women are socially shamed an inadequate amount, and those who socially shame women may face backlash. Connected to this is the view that men may be socially shamed excessively with no pushback. I don’t disagree necessarily with either of these. My problem was the way you framed your original comment. Men, in fact, are so aware that men can be horrible that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:52 AM
3

what do we have as a tool that keeps women honest in society? I’m sorry, are women immune to jail/being sued/the police? We have a whole system set up which has determined what is a crime and what the punishment is for committing it. This applies to both men and women. Why would there be a separate criminal structure for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:03 PM
5

I think this depends on if there are children. Having someone at home is probably better for kids. Kids are a lot of work so the balance of effort is more equal. If the relationship sinks, both people suffer. This isn’t true for couples without children. Housework for 2 people is pathetically easy to keep up with. This means the person working is putting in way more effort. The person at home may begin to feel bored and isolated, and is entirely dependent on the other persons goodwill. This is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:42 AM
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