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The US is not the only country with mass shootings. First off mass shootings is misleading. We aren't talking about all mass shootings here. We're talking about school shootings/shootings by young men. This is something unique to the US. We're the only country where this is a common occurrence and even that is recent (prior to gen z it was much less of an issue and prior to millennials it wasn't a thing like that at all). There have been cases of mass shootings committed by black men (DeWayne Cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:57 PM
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This is so fucking stupid. In America we have a large communities of people across the states that DON'T engage in this behavior. Actually, most groups don't. It seems to only be middle to upper class white men doing this shit. If it was about the guns we'd see it across racial lines and economic classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:32 PM
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In the US all communities and classes are armed, right? In the US only one community/class does 95% these shootings, right? With that in mind obviously it's not the guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:19 PM
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Women need to be more active and equal in advocating for boys, teaching boys, creating opportunities for boys, and understanding boys and men need to be more active in mentoring boys in real life. For some reason you think this is a sex issue. It isn't. That's just your internal misandry judging men that you see as unfit dating partners. These guys barely have any friends at all, that's a much bigger issue than them not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:16 PM
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Go to an elementary school and count the men working there. There's no way to talk about the mental health of children without discussing women primarily as they are the primary caretakers of most children. Want to know why this issue won't ever get fixed? Because y'all (white women) refuse to recognize your role in radicalizing your sons and brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:11 PM
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Like they'll talk all this "we need to help the boys" shit and never listen to what men or those boys have to say about it. "We need to help boys" from these people always ends up looking like increased social isolation, jail, special education courses, suspensions in school, etc. Just adding on to the issues under the guise of helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:03 PM
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You just want to hear yourself at this point. It could be a one armed man raping people because he got made fun of too, I don't see how that is relevant to the other poster mentioning the fact that these loners aren't typically rapists, and rapists aren't typically loaners (actually it's the outgoing womanizers that are more likely to rape).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:59 PM
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That first friend is totally correct. Tons of guys find it overrated, tons of other guys make it their life mission, no guys are apathetic towards sex that I've ever met though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:56 PM
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Yep. Also I haven't seen a single take that takes race and class into account at all. There's no black people that have been killed in the last 5 major school shootings and since 2017 I think only 2 of 125 people killed in these shootings have been black. This isn't happening in black areas. This isn't happening in poor areas. It's usually happening in wealthier whiter areas. Any analysis on these men that falls apart when applied to black men is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:52 PM
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Lmao right? 2 years ago today y'all MFers were rioting nationwide over the tyrannical government.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:47 PM
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Whenever issues largely affect poor and non white men the solution always seems to be "jail". For 40 years America has operated like this. Now we're all shocked Pikachu face and calling for a redo of the Clinton era politics like that shit will help. I guess technically you can prevent all crime by throwing all people predisposed to commit crime in jail, but maybe it's not the best solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:46 PM
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If this was about the proliferation of guns we'd see it across all communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:41 PM
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Fuck that, BLACK MEN suffer why don't they do mass shootings? I hate that we're just stepping around the fact that it's always middle to upper class young white (and in rare cases asian) males doing these shootings all the fucking time. This isn't a damn male issue, it's an issue with white supremacy, american culture, american society, and feminism and it's affect on the treatment of young males as they are socialized in all female led environments. Turns out young women aren't the only group t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:39 PM
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Did you respond to the right post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:18 PM
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I gotcha I'll edit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:06 PM
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Huh? You think black men fetishize black women? Or did you misread my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:40 PM
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I know women who are asked when will they be having a child before they're asked, when they're getting married. The reason this is asked is because that's how the women are raised to think. I've had plenty of women tell me about how much they want kids, never hear about how much they want a husband. When it comes to men the rhetoric is generally negative. Basically you're a penis with a wallet to a majority of women. If the dick ain't good, and your money isn't right it's hard to get a complimen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:30 PM
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It hasn't and it isn't. Explain to me what these dating issues are? Because I bet whatever you say is about to be statistically inaccurate. What BW have is a marriage issue but that's simply explained by asking those women if they want to be married - whenever polls do they find out the answer is no. BW talk about a lot of dating issues online that just aren't actually real. I don't know any women with the same issues, any men that deal with women with these issues, and not only am I black but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:44 PM
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Their name is half witted retard....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:24 PM
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Yep. I've long said that unless you're an asian man I don't want to hear about your racial dating woes. For everyone else it ain't that hard if you're not chasing white women. I couldn't get a white woman on a date right now and I could pull a black woman at any time before I was in a relationship. It's just not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:22 PM
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This just isn't true. You personally have dating issues, that doesn't mean all black women have dating issues. Best part of this thread is how many BW are in here telling you you're dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:11 PM
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Yeah I understand enough to know I can't relate. I make a lot of money but was never separated from black people growing up so it's been more helpful to me than a detriment. I can see how it would be a detriment to me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:00 PM
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but no dating success either way so doesn't matter. Well I mean it makes sense. Most Africans that move over here and are in the types of spaces you were in (Ivy League) don't settle down with black people. Hell if anything they're raised to search out the few other individuals of their tribes (my boy's mom told him only date Igbo women) or white people. If you didn't start trying to get acquainted with black american culture and women younger (like in college at the latest) I think it's over fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:27 PM
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Bro in that case I think it's a self inflicted wound. I'm not going to say you can easily pull black women (you'd have to become a different person all for a woman) but I can't really feel bad for you. Maybe your parents did it to you, maybe you chose to do it to yourself, but if the truth is more like what it is in my experience with wealthy black men with Ivy league educations (wealthy non Ivy BM don't have this issue in my personal experience) the real issue is you just don't relate to 99% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:16 PM
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and I'm also not white which I'm finding makes it really hard also. 9/10 times this means you can't find white women to date and don't hang around or know people of your own racial background. If you're asian maybe you get a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:00 PM
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Imma try to shorten this for you because these posts will keep growing if I don't condense lol. If you're actively approaching women, yes what you're saying is generally true. But most guys dont do that, most guys do it through social circle where you start off more like friends. Honestly, you sound like a tyrone that can actively approach and wi Most guys who? You talking dudes that got girls in HS and college? If so you're 100% right. For everyone else you gotta pursue man. It's not being a "T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:32 PM
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I mean its not like im the only one saying this though. Why you think red pill, black pill, kevin samuels, fresh and fit etc is exploding like it has in recent years? its definitely way way way worse than a lot of people think. Maybe my 50% number is TOO high. but the general trend of what im saying I think all signs point to it and I think you agree which is why you are on this sub. I'm here because I be seeing wild shit on both sides lol. Be bored at work sometimes and shit. Ok this absurd bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:42 PM
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Thank you for the link, is that usa only from the past few years? Cause I honestly can't believe that number. I'm thinking it has to include other country's and or its a little bit older. It just completely misaligns with my experience to an extent I have trouble believing it. From a study only in the US and the poll was done in 2018. More people need to realize what they see is a small microcosm of life. Most people hang out and around people similar to them. Something as simple as the area cod…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:56 PM
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If so many women sleep with strangers why do redpillers complain about them not sleeping with them? Because they're complaining about who they sleep with not whether or not they're sleeping around. You know this already, why are you asking me this? I'm not even RP. Why should women sleep with men they aren’t attracted to? Why are you asking me this? Did I say they should? Did anyone in this thread say they should? No one likes not being liked. And you literally said you broke up with someone “a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:40 PM
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This is true, it doesn't really matter either way. It's not true that passing on your genes to a woman you're married to so you have full rights to your children and the ability to help raise them is the true way to win? You're 31 how are you this lost on what our purpose is? Every species at least has the goal of making it to the next generation. This is where you're starting to change what I said. I agree that 30% of men are sexless. But then how many more aren't sexless but almost sexless, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:35 PM
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This is all bullshit. No it's a statistical reality. This is only a survey of 1000 people, but it says the average American woman has 6 ONSs in her life. This doesn't even include FWB situations or other men she's slept with she had no intentions of ever marrying or staying with long term. This lines up with my personal experience well, I've never met a woman that's like 18-22 that's celibate. It's older women that have already had their fun locking it down when they decide they want to look for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:06 PM
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In the data you're citing are they counting married guys or guys in established relationships? Because that would obviously skew the numbers. Of single men, how many can get laid is the real question. They count ALL men. We're discussing ALL men aren't we? Why limit ourselves to single men and leave out the men that won more than everyone else - aka the men that found a woman worth marrying that agreed to marry them? If anything the married men are the upper percentile as most men want a wife an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:41 PM
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I never said all women are hoes. I said most women go through a hoe phase. I also heavily implied in my post that men also go through hoe phases because hoe isn't a gendered term to me. Anyone can be a hoe and anyone can stop hoeing when they want to. Most women have had multiple casual sex partners. You're lying if you say otherwise. We all know it's true, women admit it's true when polled, most men also do the same. Few people found someone in college or HS they truly thought was the one, most…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:22 PM
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most of the guys I'm talking about are not white and we're in America. The race pill is an underrated pill, I think white guys have it way easier. If you're chasing white women, sure. I'm also not talking about white people in America. Hell I'm not white myself. I got a Pakistani friend that stays with a new girl on his arm. Most not white but a few white girls. They're all crazy and not marriage material but he can get some pussy and he's 5'6 and balding. He also won day brightener when we did …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:13 PM
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Most women are not looking for cheap sex with no guaranteed orgasm. This is true depending on whether or not she's already gone through a prolonged period of looking for cheap sex with no guaranteed orgasm. Something like 80% of American women admit to having casual sex before. I know less than a handful of women that didn't have a hoe phase, especially college educated women. Most of them later regret it but still tell younger women they know to do the same for some godawful reason (I tell ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:37 PM
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Who cares if it takes that into account or not? How does that change the facts here? I don't care WHY my hypothetical wife cheats and leaves me, I care that she did it regardless of the reasons. I mean chances are n count says nothing directly about cheating, but the factors that factor into having a high n count also make you more likely to cheat. Tomato tomahto. Either way it makes you a less desirable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:33 PM
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For example they might be short but average looking and a good job so I call them average overall. But maybe having one flaw makes them below average automatically? Man if this is it I don't believe you. They gotta be like 5'1 or something lol. I know tons of average looking, high earning, educated, 5'5-5'7 guys that stay with new women. There has to be something up with their social skills that brings them from average to well below average, or they just aren't trying. 30% of men are completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:30 PM
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Y'all say this like marriage is a ball and chain, showing us you're not marriage material in the first place lol. Don't marry someone if the relationship is shitty. It's really that simple!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:16 PM
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If youre a fairly normal person who just has social anxiety approaching is the best thing you can do to start improving your social skills. Most fairly normal guys already do this. Remember a lot of men are sexless but it's still only like 30%. The men that are average/close to average (the 30-70th percentiles) are not having issues getting a woman for themselves. I struggle with women. Starting to approach women was the best thing i ever did for my overall development as a person. Is it easy? F…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:09 PM
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I would describe most of the guys I know as average Maybe you would but are they objectively? The average guys I know that can't pull AT ALL either don't try at all or they got at least one major issue. For example I got a friend that's average by all definitions of the word (if not above average because he's incredibly smart - to the point it's a detriment), and can get dates and attention, but always talks his way out of it (he's still a virgin 2 dozen women later) because he has no tolerance …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:05 PM
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But the issue is they're telling the men that don't do this to do it. You're on PPD if you forgot, most of these guys if they took your advice would probably get that charge. They're awkward around women, not socially attuned to engage with women, and can't pick up on the body language of women. If they could they wouldn't be complaining about not being able to approach. I feel like y'all don't have any friends that struggle with women or something because there's no way you couldn't have picked…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:58 PM
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The men that have no chance aren't average. They're below average. I mean the whole "just ask women out and improve bro" mindset is stupid but so is being all doom and gloom about it. The real reason OP's idea is bad is it leaves out the big part of it all which is that men that talk to that many women are usually socially attuned and know how to talk to strangers and develop an instant connection with them. If you're not that guy you're not going to just become that guy by emulating them. You'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:55 PM
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I encountered people like that in college too. 10 years later and they're still single and complaining about it. Majority of them are pretty miserable and wanting a life they're clearly not ready for. Now the people I know that paired up in college are now all married with property at this point. A few couples even have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:44 PM
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I was trying to be on your side bro. This thread is jiggy as fuck though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:42 PM
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43% of millennials have a spouse. At the same age that number was 53% for gen x. It was 82% for the silent generation. Worldwide America has the lowest marriage rate and highest single parent rate globally. Our dating culture, just like our culture in most other ways, is predicated on the concept of "fuck you I'm looking out for myself". A notoriously bad mindset to have in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:33 PM
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You don't think there's a red flag in dating an hypothetical 22 year old that's been in committed relationships almost nonstop since leaving middle school? To me that leads me to believe you can't be alone at best. At worse it leads me to believe you weren't in actual serious relationships with most of these people and if you ask them they'd say otherwise which is suuuuper creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:27 PM
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You said tens first off. 20 is included in that. If you meant 10-20 relationships you should say that because 10s means anything between 10-99 is fair game. High school and college are 4 years each, that’s 8 relationships if it’s every year If you're in a new relationship every year in HS and college you have problems. Maybe you'll grow out of them later, but that's a red flag as I said. A bright one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:02 PM
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When I say status quo of relationships I’m referring to the criteria people use to select their mate and what they expect to get out of their relationship, what they picture in their head as desirable or normal Even in this case I'd say what men want in general is clearly biologically driven. Ask a man what he wants in women and the top 3 things are in some ways going to be attractiveness, sex, and fertility. Women have a lot more needs at this point that goes well beyond that and well beyond ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:35 PM
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If you had a couple bf/gf in high school and then some in college and then some after. A couple ain't tens. It's 2. You just described 4 relationships in college and HS (about normal) and maybe another 2-3 as an adult before getting hitched. 10+ is red flag territory, 20+ is you got problems territory. You mean to tell me 20 different people took you seriously and none of those progressed or that you took 20 people not worth being in a relationship with seriously? Relationships don’t always end …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:24 PM
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What does this even mean? The first man and first woman have a child. You think they didn't BOTH watch that child together and continue having sex to have more children? Or are you defining sexual relationships (which is what we're discussing) as anything more than that in it's most base form?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:12 PM
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I know people who have had 10s of relationships. Especially considering millennials are like 40. That's because they got issues with being alone. If you've been in 10s of serious relationships and all of em ended you're a shitty partner. Too many bad dates out here fucking it up for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:08 PM
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This is dumb and doesn't take into account men that don't struggle meeting and having sex with women. I got plenty of platonic female friends I've never felt the need to be sexual with because I've had options. Hell most of those options at large times of my life have been women I met through my friends. Women even got a term their male friends that do this (homie hoppers).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:44 PM
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This is dumb as hell. Humans have always paired up. It's a biological feature programmed into us because it gives the best chance of raising healthy offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:20 PM
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That's an extremely conservative take It isn't. It's conservative to think the internet should be free and that the creators of these platforms should have control over what they've created? That they should be able to make decisions on what happens with platforms created through their own personal labor? Come on now. Plus it's open to use for anyone. Just don't violate the terms of service. If you don't like the terms of service find another website to go on. Nothing important is missed by not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:55 PM
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centris asshole I'm not a centrist by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just in tech and understand these products are technology products released by individual people. Individual people that should have control over their own technology platforms. And at the end of the day you didn't even know the wh put it all on their own website so it's not worth continuing this with you. You're social media poisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:34 PM
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doesn’t equate to unfettered access. Find where in my post I said it does. Seems to me like this is you projecting. doesn’t make those periods just a friendship If it's long term it might as well be. If you don't care about the sexual satisfaction that's ok, but don't demand sexual exclusivity from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:58 PM
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No one said anything about demanding anything. I said sex/physical affection is what separates great friendships from relationships. Everything else has been you projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:53 PM
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Romantic partners owe each other time, affection, and love. Bet so if I spend time with someone, show them affection, and love them, I can physically have sex with whoever I want? and can’t have sex for a week. A week... You think long term is a fucking week? Bye. You're clearly a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:27 PM
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I am not from US Then STFU? Like you don't even know what you're talking about. https://www.whitehouse.gov/ So is getting news from other sources. Let alone, not being able to share/comment on them. If you care that much about being able to comment on something on Twitter you're addicted to social media and have a problem. I share articles I read all the time and comment on them. It's called text messaging and group chats. SM discourse is garbage as fuck, especially twitter. There's nothing to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:26 PM
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Men aren’t entitled to a woman’s body and acting as such makes a man sexually disgusting to their partner. And women aren't entitled to a man's time, effort, etc. and acting as such makes a woman romantically disgusting to their partner. That's why (out) bisexual women and men prefer romantic relationships with men. Y'all are terrible for relationships. Like you literally think there's nothing you owe your romantic partner. And yes your romantic partner should have access to your body and if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:12 PM
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Ehh... Probably but this'll have to do. http://yourdivorcequestions.org/will-divorce-make-me-happier/#:~:text=While%20some%20may%20be%20happier,than%20when%20they%20were%20married. No link to the research but it's an unbiased site that mentions immediately all studies show divorced people are more commonly unhappy. But I think that's mainly because the people that need to be divorced are miserable in general. It's easy for your marriage to fail if you're a negative person. No one wants to be aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:04 PM
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The reason is simple IMO, women are worse partners (which is also why bi men AND women pursue men romantically more than women in my experience). But they're doing everything they can to avoid that while also telling us they were personally raised to be bad partners (I've seen multiple women here say they were taught to be independent and live solo their whole lives instead of being taught how to be in a relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:01 PM
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You're talking about reading what the government sends out. There's literally no difference between going on Twitter and the WH website. Like not at all. You get the same information in the same form (text). Walking and biking is significantly different from driving. I can drive to work in the morning in 30 minutes but walking would most of the day and biking would take at least 2-3 hours. If walking and biking was just as fast as driving you'd have a point. Like I'm not even on twitter, y'all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:59 PM
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Gay men are also much more likely to have open relationships This isn't true. I've never seen any evidence of this and if anything I've seen evidence more women are bisexual and poly and bisexual and poly people have the highest rates of open relationships. Idk, I’m just theorising - I don’t have the answer. The neuroticism thing is more true seeming though and not a bad answer, but it spits directly in the face of the idea that it's due to uneven labor divisions (as does CDC time use statistics…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:37 PM
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You're just arguing semantics. I wasn't arguing anything. I was pointing out narcissism comes in different forms as someone that has seen it myself in my own life. You decided to argue with what I said for no reason and later decided to flat out say there's no loyal narcissists which is nonsense (and you know it's nonsense).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:40 PM
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Then they shouldn’t be in them because sex isn’t everything in a relationship. Who said it was? If your motivation is just sex then casual or prostitutes are a better fit. Are you going to address what I said or keep saying random shit? Nope there are times of sickness when sex is completely and totally off the table. No acts, touching, PIV etc. Ok... And did my post not account for that? Y'all are the worst. Zero want to even understand the male POV. Just constant strawmanning. How about this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:38 PM
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I'm looking strictly at why someone would stay in a shitty relationship. Ight I'm out. It's like speaking to a wall...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:36 PM
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I'm indifferent to responsibility, because I don't have a problem with divorce But you have no qualms with blaming men for the high divorce rate? Just say you think women are children and move on lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:13 PM
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and saying that they're not loyal and it's scientifically proven No it isn't lmao. They're less likely to be loyal than people that aren't narcissists. That doesn't mean they can't be. You think 100% of narcissists cheat? Even your own link disproves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:11 PM
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Nah, if anything I think men's standards are far too low. I said that 2 posts ago when you said anything that gives men agency is something I wouldn't agree with. How do you agree with the fact that men have too low standards but you also hold the belief that men in relationships are unhappy but staying? You're rebutting your own argument here by parroting mine. Are you willing to give women literally any responsibility in having such high divorce rates or can you only agree with rationality whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:06 PM
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No one said it's the only thing keeping men around. It is the only reason they're getting into relationships though. If you told a man straight up you wouldn't have sex with him he'd never even go on a date unless he was in the small percentage of men that were asexual. There are plenty of times in LTR when sex will be off the table. Yeah but usually sexual acts aren't completely off the table and if they are the relationship is about to end or should end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:04 PM
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I didn't say otherwise. Reread my post real quick. The actual words in it too, not what you want it to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:01 PM
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Many narcissists are extremely loyal mainly because they see their partners as a reflection of themselves. Those are usually the overprotective domineering narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:42 PM
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Then they shouldn’t be in relationships. Relationships aren’t just about sex. You have a very warped view of relationships. Explain the difference between a friendship and a romantic relationship outside of sex and sexual acts (kissing, touching, cuddling, etc)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:39 PM
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You're right I'm not new here, so I know you just say shit and I mostly respond to you because it's fun slam dunking on some people but you're obviously an abuse sponge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:37 PM
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Now you're just saying shit to justify your bad argument lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:33 PM
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I've been here for a while and you know I have. I've seen tons of weird opinions here. That's not one of them. Never have I seen someone here say men aren't more likely to murder someone. I've heard men aren't more violent or more prone to abusing someone, but that's a statistical reality. Men's abuse when they do abuse someone is undeniably more harmful though. We're the bigger and stronger of the sexes so we can do more damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:30 PM
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Men have lower relationship standards than women since they have realistic expectations of women and an understanding of female psychology. Most men are completely fine knowing they put in more effort than their spouses and are completely fine knowing more about their spouse than their spouse does about them. It's beat into us from a young age. Happy wife, happy life and all. So even though women are terrible partners (compared to men) most men are fine with having bad partners and don't see the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:26 PM
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I don't think any man denies that men are more likely to murder and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:19 PM
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Based on your comments, I doubt you'd accept any theory that puts agency on men. Nah, but if it was backed with any evidence other than "because I say so" I'd accept any theory. Hell I put a lot of agency on men for the high divorce rate too personally. I think a lot of men marry clearly unmarriageable women (by this I mean women that don't want to be married) and then they get all shocked Pikachu when it doesn't work. But that's not the topic of this conversation nor is it what you're saying me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:17 PM
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But who said these men were unhappy in their relationships? The men? You? Statistical facts? I've asked you this 4 times now with no answer. If the answer is "I say so" then say that and I'll move on. If you have proof of what you're saying I'd love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:59 PM
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So why don't gay men, who are also dividing work, divorce as much as lesbian and straight couples? You flat out didn't answer the question (what is unique about lesbian relationships vs gay relationships that'll explain the large divorce rate gap other than the fact that one involves 2 women and the other involves 2 men).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:56 PM
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You realize the government does press releases through their own websites, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:49 PM
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I don't believe in cyberbullying as a concept. As you said you can block people. That doesn't work as a justification for why websites should allow all types of speech on their websites though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:47 PM
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And why do you think that is literally what I'm asking you. Again if it's just because you do with no evidence or proof say that and don't try to justify it with new unproven claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:43 PM
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No, I'm asking you to explain your answer beyond "I feel this way because." If you can't you could've just said that at first instead of speaking in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:25 PM
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I'm literally just looking for you to justify anything you're saying with something other than "because I think so". How is that trolling? You're speaking in circles where your only justification for your beliefs is that you believe them. Like you flat out said women are taught to live life solo but now you're contesting the idea that women are on average worse partners and saying men just tolerate bad relationships (ignoring the idea that men just aren't seeing their relationships as bad as oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:20 PM
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Your last comment which contained no evidence for your claims? What of the idea that what men need to be happy in a relationship is less than what women need and that men have realistic expectations of partners and women don't? Something that CAN be statistically proven if you want me to post proof of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:17 PM
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Do you have evidence men are more likely to stay in bad relationships or is that just something you've assumed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:06 PM
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Why do lesbians have high divorce rates while gay men have low ones then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:01 PM
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My argument is that men have more trouble with being alone/single. But do you have any evidence of this? Women are much more likely to suffer from depression than men even though men are more likely to be single and single people in general (of both genders) are more likely to suffer from depression. Adding to that divorcees (among both genders) are the least happy people over 45 there are (personally I think it's because many bad partners are generally unhappy people no matter their relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:54 PM
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Men see what they don't have as something they haven't put in the work to get, women see what they don't have as something they deserve to have regardless of the work they've put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:47 PM
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How does this track for lesbian relationships vs gay ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:44 PM
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This isn't true. Women are more likely to be bi or pan and bi/pan people are much more likely to be in poly relationships that gay, lesbian, or straight people. I've never seen any data showing gay men have open marriages at a higher rate than lesbian women. Also poly people are much more likely to be divorced than monogamous people, which throws a giant wrench into your theory. Then there's also the fact that women, statistically speaking, are more open to polygamy than men are. https://www.rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:39 PM
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This is what people tell themselves when they don't want to admit something is wrong. Even an amicable divorce is a failed marriage. Sure they're not necessarily unhappy but all available data shows the least happy people in America over 45 are former divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:35 PM
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someone's willingness to remain in a horrible relationship? This is assuming most breakups are due to having horrible relationships. This is assuming everyone leaving someone isn't themselves the problem and that they won't just continue to be in the same relationship with a different face after leaving. What's more accurate is that I genuinely believe men look inwards when their relationships aren't what they want, and most women look outwards to blame others. Now of course I know men that don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:32 PM
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As for the studies, no I haven't made any research on that, I'm also not focusing on the same issue as you. I'm talking about the extremes especifically because those are the ones that usually cause real problems. They don't. The extremes are usually small in number and inconsequential. But you've flat out said that not only do you not have any evidence backing up any of your ideals, but also that you don't want to so I don't think there's anything to be said here and if anything you're perfect …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:27 PM
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Men paired with men leave relationships less often than men paired with women do they not? Women paired with women leave relationships more often than women paired with men do they not? The idea that if women were shitty partners men would leave more shows how little women think loyalty and reliability is a positive quality in a partner which is why women initiate so many divorces. Men are more loyal than women are. And please don't bring up cheating statistics. Men and women cheat at similar en…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:10 PM
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Dude women couldn’t even get a mortgage until the 1970s. Could ALL men get mortgages before the ECO Act as a class? Catholic women still can’t use birth control. What laws are stopping them? I know tons of catholic women that do, I went to catholic schools growing up. Women can no longer get abortions. In one state where a plurality of women voted for the politicians that removed that right in the first place. How is this evidence of men as a privileged and oppressive class as a whole? Some empl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:05 PM
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I don't think men believe the same. Well no, women are mostly taught to value themselves exclusively in the modern day. Women are mostly taught partners have no value that isn't sexual or financial. If she's sexually satisfied and financially well enough to not be on the streets (I'm making this the point because I know a lot of women up to their neck in debt that think they're financially stable) 70% of women will put zero effort into relationships. This leads to my answer to the OP which is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:54 PM
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The idea of men as oppressors as a class is dumb as hell and was created by ruling class white women to take advantage of social progress of the underclass (which is why wealthy white women have benefitted from affirmative action more than anyone else). Men and women aren't separate classes with an oppressor, oppressed dynamic. No accurate reading of reality could lead you to that conclusion and if gender politics were based off any community other than white people maleness would be more associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:50 PM
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what I'm saying is that the ones already in them will get even more extreme, and the few new eyes that find them will also be more likely to become extremist because no one from the outside will be arguing with them. And what I'm saying is that's a small number of people that in the long run do not matter. It's the other 92% of users that aren't hardcore users that deplatforming helps. Again, I've posted scientific evidence that deplatforming works. You haven't. One of us is right, I'll let you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:42 PM
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And? Go to a different website lmao. It's 2022 there's large forums for everyone and anything if you want to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:36 PM
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No, it freaking doesn't. LMAO. Y'all really believe this? On one side we have your hypotheticals, on the otherside we have he vast majority of recorded history. I don't even believe in cyberbullying but come on...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:34 PM
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This has nothing to do with free speech. They weren't even banned and Reddit is a private platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:31 PM
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Did you forget to add the /s at the end? No. You realize these things are studied, right? People always find ways, be it these new social media platforms or private discord/WhatsApp/telegram groups. Without any criticism any new eyes that do find them will never hear the counter arguments, this slowly creats more extreme views. This is assuming that: Humans are all rational and all ideas that are good and right beat out ideas that are bad and wrong. This is entirely false. That people in these c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:28 PM
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This is never true. Being out in the open allows fringe ideas to become widely known. These ideas don't grow when you cut off their access to new eyes. We should understand at this point deplatforming works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:58 PM
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Well you're mistaken thinking this is about dating. Are most people the age group Reddit markets themselves to in happy marriages or relationships that aren't close to ending? The answer to that is clearly no, which is why there's complaints on both ends. Women mad they can't find husbands, men mad they can't find wives. Both sides overlooking each other for someone they imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:21 PM
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Some women will only care about looks. I wouldn't even say this is true. Some women only care about looks FOR NOW. They'll leave when they eventually want more. Not too many trophy husbands or trophy wives in lesbian marriages out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:19 PM
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even though we have literally slept in the same bed together, twice If you wait it won't even be worth it bro move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:12 PM
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Being receptive to people approaching you doesn't put you more at risk, IDK where that lie comes from. Being a hardass doesn't make you less of a target. I know someone that was almost abducted. Nothing about her personal behavior would've helped that. Plus as women y'all have to worry more about men you do know and watch out for red flags with them. Stranger on stranger crime is even more overwhelmingly male than regular crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:59 PM
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Um that’s men’s problems though. How exactly? They also have the ability to be more cautious when they go out or to avoid certain areas etc… Isn't this literally what you're complaining about women having to do? How is this a good piece of advice for men but not women? the fact that anyone can be attacked isn’t an argument against women taking precautions if anything sounds like men should be also taking more precaution lmao ok. Or maybe we have it right and aren't biased against men like you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:17 PM
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Women are the ones afraid to go places alone at night Men famously are never victims of random acts of violence and famously never have to worry about being harmed while alone in public. Like this ain't gendered bro. No one feels safe enough to go on a 2 am jog in the middle of a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:26 PM
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Yep. Casual sex culture is not for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:40 PM
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Nah that's a wild one lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:14 PM
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That slap wasn't about Chris Rock. He said that much in his speech. Anyone talking about the joke that's not what it's about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:14 PM
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He can get any woman he wants, correct. That's why he left his first wife and the mother of his only child for Jada, the woman he wanted. Y'all think all men want a bunch of women. They all don't. He found the WOMAN he wanted and got her. Dude said he was in the bathroom crying after he met her because he knew she was the one and not his at the time wife. Then she didn't even want to marry him according to both of their accounts. Her mom made her do it and Will pushed her to have a family. Every…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:10 PM
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I highly doubt Will would just go along with an open relationship if he didnt want one. Do you know how many men and women do this to keep their marriages alive and families together?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:53 PM
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But what we DO know is Will Smith has openly talked about being second to a dead man (Tupac) in his own marriage and family, his daughter was comfortable enough publicly sharing a letter she wrote to Tupac asking him to stop faking his death to make her and her mommy happy (this came out as rumors of them divorcing first started in like 2012), and Jada consistently goes out to publicly speak on how inadequate Will is as a husband (for example she went on a 5 minute rant with her mother and daugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:52 PM
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Best tweet I seen on this was something like: "Will Smith is a kinder man than me. I would never fight for another man's girl like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:46 PM
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Yep. Once I saw this: Keep in mind that most of us aren’t familiar with Will Smith’s personal life and him being a cuck or whatever, we’re only judging his actions at the Oscars not considering whatever else is going on in his personal lives. The OP was immediately not valid because his reaction had nothing to do with Chris Rock's joke and 100% to do with him trying to make himself look masculine after years of being emasculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:44 PM
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The same way extroverts don’t hang out at bars and clubs every single weekend, forever They still go out occassionally. I know many 50 year olds that go out regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:42 PM
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I mean some people aren't meant for monogamy. That's true and will always be true and more power to them. If you crave novelty to the point of it being detrimental to your life that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:14 PM
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You don't need to be a hoe to be sexually experienced. Everything learned hoeing around can be learned with one other sexually curious person. Too many negatives come with hoe phases for me to think anyone should support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:31 PM
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Grabbing arms for attention. Like middle school years. I only seen guys approaching like that in NYC before lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 08:30 PM
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NYC? In New York dudes are different when it comes to approaching. I remember being a kid and being taught to grab women when I call them to get numbers. Obviously by the time I was a teenager I realized that wasn't smart and I wasn't going to be seen as cute for doing it post puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 01:33 PM
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Europe and East Asia are definitely doing those things and it's leading to new issues. The best and only solution is importing a workforce through immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 05:11 PM
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Right. MFers saying this at 40 with no retirement savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 05:09 PM
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Rate my pic is the right style though. Some of y'all can't take pictures lol. As far as the women I'd assume any women that don't find themselves attracted would post. The guys would be the same, with the added benefit of the guys that are more successful romantically probably also not including themselves. Hell I said I'd do it as a reaction but I legit feel weird about posting anything but a headshot since I have a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:42 PM
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Should've done a thread. Tons of people don't check the daily. Well maybe in that case there'd be too many pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:06 PM
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About 85% of Americans do not consume the US Food and Drug Administration’s recommended daily intakes of the most important vitamins and minerals necessary for proper physical and mental development. This does not mean they're malnourished.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:41 PM
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That's you personally. Not most Americans. They measure these things, most american children aren't malnourished.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:26 PM
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Shouldn’t the vast genetic database we have now reflect this claim if true? Uhhh... You realize genetically speaking you have way more female ancestors than male, right? Go back 6000 years and 19 females mated for every 1 male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:46 PM
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There's a reason things stopped improving around the time the boomers generation took control. Planning life for yourself and yourself exclusively has been taught to us for multiple generations at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:43 PM
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There's nothing wrong with them. I just think calling it romance is a bastardization of the term and removing the physical from romance is why so many people are in bad relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:37 PM
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I keep saying it because honestly she wouldn't grasp any logical arguments. She didn't logically conclude what she is saying. It’s obvious to anyone who has the bare minimum of social interactions as a functional adult that you’ll have a longer/closer relationship with a SO who met the present you and has been with you for some time than a HS sweetheart you dated a decade ago and probably rarely ever met out of pure chance meetings. You might be forgetting what started this. We're talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:02 AM
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That has not stopped me from accepting that there are happy couples out there where sex does not figure into their equation. And plenty more couples exist where one person is suffering sexually and staying out of an obligation. Imagine society tells us if you don’t want sex with your partner, then you are not healthy, something wrong, this is not love. Society should do this (other than the love part, you can love your friends). There'd be way less divorces. Way less split families. Way less spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:18 PM
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So you don't like someone sexually if you know them well? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:55 PM
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I love my friends. I don't require sexual exclusivity from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:54 PM
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You're literally still in highschool why are you trying to tell me anything about familiarity with people you knew while young vs people you met as adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:51 PM
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You're speaking in circles. No one ever said sex alone makes for romance. We're saying if your partner isn't interested in you sexually you're their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:57 PM
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Name one other difference between a friendship and romantic relationship outside of sexual desire/physical lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:53 PM
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What's the difference between friendship and romance if sex isn't the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:49 PM
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Nah he's defining it like 99% of men do. If you have no sexual desire for someone why want sexual exclusivity from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:48 PM
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But do you realize that there could be a very loving strong relationship between 2 people without the woman wanting to “suck the soul out of him”. It's called friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:46 PM
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Woman: “I love banging my SO They never include this because it's not true. If they did that'd be the exact type of compliments men love. That said in real life women give these types of compliments. You gotta be a special type of person to come here and the women that do aren't in the habit of complimenting men or wanting regular sex generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:46 PM
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That's her ex, she's known him longer than the fiance. You're 16, why are you even talking about being attracted to someone you've known for years? You have zero experience of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:43 PM
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Do you think most men would pick a broke woman over a rich one? You said this. There's no correlation between a woman's income and her ability to get married. Most men that are getting married don't care about a woman's income period, broke or rich. The men that do want rich women are the men that women don't want because those men aren't rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:34 PM
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There is a correlation No there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:39 PM
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Right, I should've been more specific. Most married women that have kids under 18 work part time or stay at home. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/ Can't find the newest data but with female job loss during covid it's gone back under 50%. I think I have it bookmarked somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:37 PM
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Most men don't care at all. There's no correlation between income and a woman's chances of being married. On the other side of things there few things more correlated to a men's chances of being married then income.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:46 PM
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As a picky man most picky men are picky because they can choose to be. When I had less options I accepted a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:37 PM
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Women count telling a man to do a chore as doing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:36 PM
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Most married women don't work full time though. Most married women either stay at home or work part time. Most women work full time because most of them are living alone and unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:36 PM
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That has a lot more to do with men being in worse shape than before (the US is #1 in ED cases under 40 and we're also the fattest country next to Mexico). Even then only 13% of men under 40 suffer from ED with 26% having to have had it happen before (I don't think this is uncommon, every man has had one time they couldn't get it up no matter how few issues they have normally). Personally I've met one person under 35 that suffered from ED constantly and he didn't even jack off. He just got perfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:04 PM
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That's a you problem the vast majority of men watch porn and jerk off and have no negative consequences of it. It's literally just a nut. No most guys can't easily get there. You have an addictive personality and that's not a failure by you personally but it's not something most people live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:26 PM
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Most men don't suffer from negative effects from jerking off too much. That's a problem women blow way out of proportion because they hate male sexuality and want to control it (and yes I get that plenty of men want to control female sexuality too but that's not the topic here).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:13 PM
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Straight classism. Of the worst kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:36 AM
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This doesn't say what you think it does. If men rate all women high, and women rate a few men high then men will have more similarity in their ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:55 AM
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5'7.5" barefoot. 173 cm for non Americans. Makes me about 5'9" in shoes which is taller than most women in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:05 PM
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This isn't at all true. Women are way less flexible on looks than men. Which is why most men don't have a type other than not obese while women have totally varying types of men they go for. Varying enough to where women only look at a low percentage of men (5%).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:44 PM
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No one disagrees with that. What was disagreed with is the notion that 15 out of 15 women will all go for the same man because they saw them as the #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:19 PM
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Heyyyyyy. somebody else that gets the 'chad' thing. I mean I've gone from a dude that didn't get any play to a dude that was able to have 5 FWBs at the same time. I understand the game because I've lived it. On the other side you can see how it looks like dudes are smashing everything, but what you don't see is all the rejection they still face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:17 PM
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I got a beard and tons of women (including some exes) hate it. My GF literally can't stop talking about it though. I've worn a goatee before and I got attention from totally different women than when I have my beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:12 PM
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Yep. Like do women like broad shoulders, and strong jaws, and height? Of course. But do they all want a pro athlete? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:01 PM
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GINI has has nothing to do with the actual amount of likes, just their distribution. Yes and if only 4% of men are getting swiped on that means 96% aren't. If women have a 1% overlap and there's 10 different types of women that means only 30% of guys get swipes at all while 1% get swipes from everyone and the GINI will be very high. Even if women swiped on 80% of guys men's GINI could still be higher than that for women (if e.g. they swiped on the same 80% and left the other 20% with nothing) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:47 PM
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The GINI index (which measures inequality) for men on Tinder in terms of likes is higher than that for women meaning that likes for men are even more unequally distributed than they are for women. Because the average woman swipes on 4% of guys while the average guy swipes on 60% of women. The vast vast majority of people are nowhere near model tier looks. If you only compare model tier men vs model tier women then yes, men are more samey but when you look at the whole spectrum where the average …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:28 PM
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Of course there's certain features women undeniably don't like. My main point was that this mystical Chad that's appealing to all types of women doesn't exist. Once you pass the looks threshold you've only gotten through step one. There's a lot that needs to lineup after that that most guys that can't get past step 1 don't even realize. Also to the thing about your tall friend, most women choose a tall guy. It’s basically the preference for most women, I’m not saying all, just most. The preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:19 PM
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Not at all. Men are incredibly samey. Most guys are smashing anything that could get a modeling gig. Women are more strict in picking guys, but trust me there's no guy that appeals to former alt girls and former cheerleaders at the same time. Most dudes pick a lane and dominate that lane. Get me in a room with a bunch of art hoes/models at a gallery and I'm cleaning up. Put me with a bunch of strippers/party girls and I might leave dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:12 PM
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The female friends I have (both of them) don't go on Tinder and are absolute trainwrecks when it comes to relationships with men. Attractive as hell but shooting way out their weight class. That said I'm only contesting the point that they'd all conglomerate on the top guy. What's a 10 to one woman might be an 8 to another. What's an 8 to one women might be a 10 to another. To a woman that doesn't like men under 6 feet I'm not on the radar at all, to a woman that doesn't care I'm a catch. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:10 PM
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So yeah, if you're all 8s, you're good to go. But if one guy is a 5 and the others are 8s, the 5 is likely going home alone. Yeah of course, I'm contesting her point that they all conglomerate towards the #1 guy. Like there's different #1 guys for different women. There is a baseline standard you have to pass though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:06 PM
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The issue is, it rarely works like that. Especially in casual sex environments, the vast majority (if not all) of women are going to go for the hottest one. So it's not 1 guy getting 10 NSA offers and the other getting 5. It's often one guy getting all 15, and the other getting none. This isn't realistic. Women have types. If me and a group of my friends hit the bar women that like tall men will go towards my tallest friends, women that like men that stand out with style might gravitate towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:10 PM
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you are a rich kid lmao Nah. I said I went to school with the rich kids. My parents were working their asses off to cover tuition and that was with a scholarship that paid most of it off. I can remember being on welfare with both my parents living with their parents still. Longest I've gone without food was a week straight and in college I had to work an unpaid internship, go to school, and pack trucks at midnight for UPS to be able to eat (rent was covered by my student loans but I had no other…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:53 PM
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Constant advocating for yourself and being authoritative on top of a pretty stressful job really can be tiring. In that aspect, I would definitely love to be a man. Trust me, men are constantly advocating for themselves too. I just don't see it as tiring, it's just what men do amongst themselves. I can see why you see it as tiring though. Women are socialized differently than men. In the others, like dating? I mean is your life literally only work and dating? Do you not go to the store, walk dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:48 PM
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So the fact that you don’t think most of the advice they give there will help them with dating isn’t really here nor there. It is if the defense of TRP is that it works because the self improvement advice is accurate. If FDS's advice isn't getting you attention from the men you want the advice can't justify it's existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:08 PM
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I would, at least in my field of work it would be really nice. I found out recently my male coworker is making 10k more than me at the same job title (which I thought pay disparities myself was always bullshit but that bit me back too.) that i’ll have to advocate and go through hell just to be paid the same. Oh this one is say pay is correlated more strongly (when adjusted for field) to height than gender. I've seen theories (idk if they were tested) that it comes down to deepness of voices. Bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:07 PM
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FLS isn't related to dating at all it seems though and most of what they're talking about improving will have no benefits on their dating life. I love it for them, just not seeing the connection with FDS at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:32 PM
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WTF dude your standards are SUPER HIGH, like really? Nah they're pretty average women. 4-6 range. My standards are the standards of the real world, none of those women are being approached for modeling gigs. If that's not happening you're closer to average than beautiful. IDK what women look at when they look at other women but y'all think every woman is beautiful. Like off rip if they were beautiful they wouldn't wear makeup all the time or have gotten plastic surgery, and if they did do those …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:24 PM
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Women are not some complex enigma, just want to be treated like a human being. How are human beings treated? Are men and women treated the same? Do you think you'd personally like to be treated like a man in your daily life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:07 PM
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Being RP and being nice aren't opposite things. Women like RP behaviors they just pretend they aren't RP behaviors. or that women are some vile demons who you need to follow some kind of spell to summon and keep. I don't believe for a split second you or any of your friends' BFs treat y'all the way they treat other men and women they don't have sexual interest in. No way in hell. This is the type of bad analysis that leads men to TRP. My GF said out loud the other day (we were watching a YT vide…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:06 PM
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TRP doesn't even believe in the idea of a HVW lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:57 PM
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Women want validation from men, they just have more of it now. An out of shape, broke woman with makeup and photoshop can have tens of thousands of men following her in a year just off social media. They don't need real life average men for validation because they get it online from average men at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:52 PM
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I would not say the women in Tinder Swindler were beautiful. They were average to slightly above average chicks with serious issues that would make any relationship minded man run thinking they bagged a billionaire. If anything they're the perfect example of delusional average women that only want men for the status he may give them. Cecile is a batshit crazy serial dater with insanely high standards that needs therapy yesterday, Penilla is a stereotypical boss babe that wants a man for nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:48 PM
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Ugly in the soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:41 PM
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A hambone doesnt slim down to just bone without exercising (aka becoming somewhat fit). Wrong you slim down in the kitchen. They're wrong about being skinny being the only requirement but CICO is how you lose fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:40 PM
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Yeah I'm not seeing much actual leveling up strategies there... The couch to 5k thread is, but the other ones are really just women talking about how they feel now that they've "leveled up" and complaining about . Don't really see the tips outside of career advice (which is great for their lives but not really important to their dating lives). If you pitched it as a life improvement sub I'd agree, but I really don't see any dating advice here or advice on how to do better dating (other than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:36 PM
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You want r/datingadvice. That sub there is absolutely batshit and just thinks everyone should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:30 PM
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Because you're pretending abstinence is the only thing women haven't tried to avoid pregnancy as if in the real world a vast majority of women don't use birth control or IUDs or any type of contraceptives other than condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:37 PM
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Hey, I got the same feeling about men that say they're being rational and she was just being emotional. I know a ton of guys that gaslight like this... Thing is not all guys do so if you're hearing that from men so commonly either you have a terrible taste in men or you're irrational. Basically if there's anything you hear from more partners than not you got issues. so she's telling you that she cares about something and you are just telling her to not care and think that solves shit. It's not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:28 PM
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Nah they think less of you and you gotta figure out why that is. The whole "I'm being logical and they tell me I'm being emotional" thing is a tell because in my experience every woman that says that is incredibly irrational but things they're spitting facts with their nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:04 PM
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You don't even know what an IUD is? I don't want to hear nothing about what men aren't doing to prevent children when you don't even know what contraceptives are available for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:01 PM
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but not more likely to marry a black woman (vs. marry a non-black woman) compared to broke black men. I don't know the actual statistics, though. Well based on the statistics you're wrong. https://scirp.org/reference/referencespapers.aspx?referenceid=613624 This study in 2011 found black men earning $100k plus married black women at an 8% higher rate than black men making less than $100k. I know that successful black men do marry black women- I can think of multiple examples in my own family- bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:39 AM
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He's a deadbeat why are we pretending there's anything but vitriol in society towards deadbeats? We just can't do anything about it. It's on the women, who are stuck with the children in this situation, to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:21 AM
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Real question, how many women do you know that have ever used an IUD? Did this lady use one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:12 AM
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Y’all were like this before abortion rights Shotgun weddings used to be a thing. Men definitely weren't ok with their daughters getting knocked up and the men not taking responsibility for it. Researchers estimate 70% of the increase in single motherhood rates following Roe v Wade can be attributed to the ending of the cultural practice of shotgun weddings. 100 years ago back when men undeniably controlled reproduction when a random guy knocked a woman up he was basically forced to marry her aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:08 AM
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Because we understand there's nothing that can be done about the men that don't want to raise their kids. What are we going to do about that other than have the system we already have? It's just not worth giving energy to and talking about it isn't helping anything. Some guys are just not raising their kids with certain women. Women are the ones that ultimately get to decide who is born and who's children they choose to have so the responsibility falls on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:01 AM
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As black men earn more money they're more likely to marry black women. This is a lie. They're not lining up for single moms but many guys will take one since a lot of them are single fathers or were raised by a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:58 AM
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You realize violence towards men is more common than violence towards women, right? You're implying raping women is in men's nature so much you think we wouldn't tell our daughters to enjoy frat parties. I've been to a ton of frat parties. Zero rapings, one attempted (he got his ass beat by the frat brothers there and he was a guest). Heard one story about a guy raping a passed out girl my whole time in college. Zero reported rapings on my campuses. Let's not act like this whole thread didn't st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:58 PM
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I vett for sexual compatibility as well. Literally impossible to do outside of the bedroom. But why should I sexually satisfy a man if I'm not in a relationship with him first? Why wouldn't you? He's just a dude on the opposite side of a date. I don't know him. I don't know if he's a guy I want to keep around? If you don't want to keep him around you don't have to. My question is why aren't you putting your best foot forward? How many men aren't putting their best foot forward? Sex is included i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:11 PM
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Well it's a common strategy for a reason. If you don't try you can't fail. That's the reason. A woman guarding herself can always make excuses for why it didn't work out (he only wanted sex is the most common one). A woman that didn't guard herself and still couldn't cut it, even if they never had sex with you, would be devastated. It's much easier to tank the relationship than improve. Pretty sure the lack of happy marriages there are because women aren't filtering more to be honest. We live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:00 PM
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If men just want to have a relationship for sex and NOTHING ELSE. then they're not the type of man most women want to attract This is a very small percentage of men. Filtering doesn't work for most women which is why most women aren't in happy, fulfilling marriages. If it worked they would be, because every woman I know talks about vetting men. It's hardly an original idea you and your friends have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:47 PM
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. I'm not making you want what you don't want. In a hypothetical situation where a man is just meeting you of course he wouldn't want you for a relationship. He doesn't know you enough for that. All he knows is that you're physically attractive and he wants to have sex with you. Imagine never going on a job interview because you're "not making them want what they don't want?" They know what they want, they want to know if you match what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:37 PM
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Get serious whenever you're ready. Just know the longer you wait the worst man you'll end up with most likely. Unless you're going to be a 10/10 high earner by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:27 PM
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22 is definitely young to be pursuing a relationship (most women I know don't get serious until 25) but that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:22 PM
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It's work that often makes you happy, but it is still work. It's is not "easy". If your work makes you happy it's easy. I think you misunderstood what I said and you're trying to shoehorn it into your framing now that you realized my point was that you should enjoy providing for your partner and have no doubts they feel the same way about you. It's not about games. Lots of women don't want to have sex without some form of relationship. Make him want a relationship then. Y'all act like passive vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:03 PM
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I was just making a joke because your post was a perfect setup for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:48 PM
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And basically my bigger point was I just don’t personally know any woman that don’t want a relationship Well statistically speaking the women you know are rare. That or they're older. If you and your friends are approaching 30 that's about the age women actually start pursuing relationships in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:37 PM
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My relationship with my husband has lasted nearly a decade A beautiful thing. I think you're conflating terms here though. I've talked to couples that are still together and while marriages are work they're not hard. You should enjoy making your partner happy and they should do the same for you. If not, you're probably married to the wrong person. FWIW I think tons of people get in relationships to not be lonely but don't actually enjoy it. This "relationships are hard" advice is what leads to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:47 AM
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Nothing is an effective way. OLD is just as effective as real life in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:37 AM
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80% of this sub is trolling alt accounts. Then another 5% are crazy people lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:34 AM
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No problem and good on you for not being here in bad faith and being open to the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:28 AM
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Miami let's women in clubs free and charges men $40 a pop then you won't even get any attention in the club unless you buy a section. Definitely different ratios than most areas in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:20 AM
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Sluts. Sorry but you pitched a fastball to center plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:16 AM
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Women diet constantly Eating less is different from hitting your macros. AND they hit the gym. Statistically speaking no they don't. Unless you mean hitting the treadmill. Most women don't ever get into weight lifting. Even the weakest men I know lifted at some point in their lives. Again 5-10% of highschool boys are on roids. Only 0.6% of highschool girls are. Just because we don't gain as much muscle doesn't mean we're not working out jfc. According to studies women workout half as much as men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:11 AM
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Oh please. There will be men who are just out for casual sex regardless Yeah and women don't seem to do a good job vetting these men at all. 90% of vetting is just women driving men away then pretending they made a good decision to drive him away because he left after dealing with your insufferable behavior. First you have to find a man who doesn't just want sex Aka most men. Then of those men you need to find a man who you're compatible with AND vibe with Aka he needs to be better than you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:07 AM
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We hit puberty and suddenly most women I knew were obsessed with their appearances, the guys not so much. Meanwhile here in real life somewhere between 5-10% of highschool boys take steroids to put on muscle. What you're saying isn't accurate. Men and women both put in a lot of effort to look good it's just different types of effort. Most women put on makeup and get their hair and skin care right. Most men work on themselves in the gym and in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:00 AM
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And also for some the effort to filter out men who are put for pump and dump vs relationships is too hard and annoying. Too bothersome Well that's because they're misplacing their efforts. They'd be better spent taking their time making sure the man didn't want to pump and dump than trying to vet a man as if that'll secure them the man they want. Even a man not looking to pump and dump will if you're not relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:43 AM
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I mean she's just trolling it's not really a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:21 PM
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you're saying platonic female friendships are closeted lesbian relationships? No YOU SAID: look at how women treat their female friends, that's a closer picture of what we want a relationship to be like Don't try to flip it on me like I was doing anything but repeating your point back to you. I don't think how women treat other women is anything like how women want a relationship to be personally. I think most women would disagree with that too. Most men and women don't want the same things out …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:45 PM
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Who said your life experience was wrong. What happened to you happened to you. What's wrong is then using that personal experience to say society behaves in a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:52 PM
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look at how women treat their female friends, that's a closer picture of what we want a relationship to be like. Explains the incredibly high lesbian DV and divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:04 PM
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This is objectively false. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/14/study-women-long-term-relationships-living-together-more-likely-lose-interest-sex/665116001/ It happened to your BF but it's not common amongst men. Most men only lose attraction once their GFs age and start to look different. In some cases they lose attraction because they're tired of having to beg for sex after their GFs have lost attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:02 PM
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Uhh... Are we looking at the same numbers? Seems to me like it's 18-22 year old women that are weighing the numbers down. Also the OP mentions even married couples are having less sex with 26% of married couples under 60 having sex less than once a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:58 PM
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Being feared is the strongest disadvantage imaginable if anything. It seems fun when you're imagining people not bothering you. Different when you realize that results in social isolation, getting killed, or going to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:14 AM
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some were though, it was just extra difficult. still, some black men were able to vote before all women were. If the standard is that some women could vote women could vote in 1776. You realize the 19th amendment made it national but certain states already gave women the right to vote, right? New Jersey allowed women to vote since day one (it's the first place women have ever been allowed to vote in the history of modern western democracy). 11 states already had full voting rights (for white wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:08 PM
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were able to vote earlier Damn they must've passed the voting rights act in 1964 for no reason. My grandfather must've been lying when he said he couldn't vote when he was 18, right? Come on now this is nonsense. You know and I know that regardless of what it said on paper black men couldn't vote until 60 years ago. less likely to be sexually harassed at work. How do you know this is true? You have any evidence of this? Also let's say this is true, how does it show that black men are a part of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:34 PM
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black men being kept down by white women isn’t really a patriarchy issue though. So if black men hold no power societally over white women how is there a patriarchy that includes black men? How does that work? You can't just say the word intersectional as if that explains your theory in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:59 PM
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Not assumptions. These are actual facts. I can't tell you what individuals are going into debt for but looking it up for a whole population is simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:57 PM
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No movement is that limited in scope and damn you must be the sloppiest historian ever. Women getting randomly assaulted in the streets has been a national talking point since Recy Taylor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:56 PM
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Good correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:48 PM
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in the ways white women are not granted the same freedoms as white men, women of other races are not granted the same freedoms as men of their races. So any unequal treatment between men and women is the patriarchy, and the patriarchy which influences society doesn't include white women, but it includes black men? Tell me again how feminism isn't just white supremacist women attempting to absolve themselves of guilt in setting up the system? Like you're telling me enslaved men were more a part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:08 PM
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in a nutshell the feminist ideology is just gender equality. that’s what it was based on. False. Read theory. Feminism is a justification of the theory of the patriarchy. What it's based on is absolving wealthy white women of their role in building society by making them a minority class on the basis of sex. There's a reason second wave feminism came following the civil rights era. There's a reason the suffrage movement came following the ending of slavery. There's a reason the biggest beneficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:18 PM
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Go look up the history of sexual harassment. That's probably the biggest issue with the modern fake leftists. Y'all don't read any actual theory or know the actual history behind issues and movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:12 PM
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i’m talking about feminism as an ideology As an ideology feminism is lacking in any actual evidence for the existence of a patriarchy and uses the term because it's an ideology thought up by wealthy white women angry they weren't able to be seen as part of the ownership class. any organization that promotes men’s well being could also be considered feminist Feminism is when people do good things and if they don't do good things it's not feminism. there are definitely more for women, but that’s b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:42 PM
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1950s? Lmaooooo. Second wave feminism existed for no reason then I guess... Those women just created issues out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:35 PM
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In a low real rate and inflationary environment it's better to hold debt than cash The inflationary environment that literally didn't exist until last year? Using debt to buy assets and investing in yourself isn't dumb when cash inflates 7% a year God I wish so many economically illiterate people didn't have loud, bad opinions online. No one said everyone holding debt made a mistake, but most did. You know and I know those women aren't owning houses (for the most part) and don't have high paying…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:29 PM
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Seventy years ago I would have been able to walk down 15th street at 8 AM in peace, because these kinds of men would have known that respectable men would have come to my aid. God I hope this is a joke post...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:25 PM
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Harassed? Are you talking about people talking to you? You think men didn't always let other men speak to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:59 PM
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If this is true name a feminist organization that does anything about male rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:57 PM
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If this was true 2/3rds of US debt wouldn't be held by women. They'd be making enough money to not be in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:52 PM
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If this is what you're talking about we protect women in that same way now. I was assuming they meant something deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:48 PM
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but we’re still considered the husbands property and inferior to her man By who? When? Where? How does this apply to any society besides modern, wealthy, white societies? God... Like you refuse to believe your sheltered life is a rarity, not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:43 PM
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Women never depended solely on men or were beneath them. If you look historically only wealthy white women have been able to stay at home, not contribute much outside of babies, and relax. That's why they had enough time to think up something as dumb as patriarchy theory. Through most other societies and groups women have worked and contributed to the family just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:17 PM
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Smartness is determined by education and nothing else? Women hold 2/3rds of US debt mainly due to student loans. Not very smart IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:13 PM
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That's not how women define masculinity. They do it with their actions, not their words. Same for men. If men want to complain about how a feminine trait is not taking responsibility for things we have to understand that's on us and how we choose to treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:03 PM
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They still do. Rich white women have convinced all other women otherwise though. Separate men from women and watch societies crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:32 PM
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But mens gender traits don’t harm them the same way women’s do. Men have their own problems. But at least they’re able to be free Lmao again feminism fails to take into account anyone but wealthy white women and wealthy white men. 70% of the homeless population are men. 93% of the prison population (worldwide) are men. So much freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:26 PM
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How did men subjugate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:13 PM
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Masculine women are less protected than feminine women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:12 PM
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The vast majority of men are not truly interested in protecting femininity because they’re not interested in protecting women they aren’t related to or fucking. Even then it’s 50/50. To protect femininity you can’t just protect your wife’s femininity, you have to support and uplift femininity on a societal level. This is so dumb. There was never a time in the history of the world men protected unrelated and random women. Men will protect their feminine partners, if you're claiming to be feminine…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:11 PM
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Femininity is defined as the opposite of masculinity. Men determine what femininity is like how women determine what masculinity is. No one in 2022 sees holding a job as inherently masculine, or having a bank account. That's 100% due to the actions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:05 PM
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I don't think people saying long word salads with no meaning are articulate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 07:16 PM
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Women aren't exhausting all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:42 PM
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hypergamy, which also implies she'll leave you if she finds someone hotter than you. Off rip this is a strong mischaracterization. And for the overall point most guys figure out women are exhausting in middle school. You learn to accept and appreciate women for what they are, not what they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:36 PM
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He also thinks super models of different races means he has different types. Dude is the most unaware male poster on this sub lmao. Nothing worse than dudes that legit have zero ability to empathize with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:53 PM
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I told my GF if she met me a year earlier it'd have lasted 3 months tops because I wasn't looking for anything besides fun. And I got ready to settle down way earlier than most guys I know mainly because I value marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:53 PM
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It's an age range. If you don't catch them in college you'll have to wait until they're 30-40 and ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:57 PM
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I mean that's what I said in my second paragraph lol. They get the most superficial women they can find. Not to mention most of the women are a decade plus younger than them and just young and dumb. And I'd say it's to appeal to tradcons and young boys. Idk many grown RP men that watch their content (meanwhile I know tons of older men watching Kevin Samuels).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:16 PM
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Not true they do bring on women that are in high professions... They're still IG models though. When you recruit women based on whether or not they're on IG and whether or not they'll fuck you to be on the show you'll get a certain demographic of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:47 PM
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No problem. Always nice to talk to a level headed poster here when most people are trolling from burner accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:59 AM
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What kinds of things were in effect back in the day that kept a social ideal of young marriage that lasted for life? It was just a different culture overall. Ask your grandparents how they felt about having a marriage and children. It was a goal for them. My grandfather has done everything in his career with the goal of leaving a legacy for his children. Simple things like refusing to do work for someone because he wouldn't own it or the rights to it to pass on to his children and grandchildren.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:49 AM
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Aren't most people out to have fun before they settle down? In America, yeah. We also have the highest amount of single parent households worldwide with a full 23% of US children living with one parent (vs an average of 7% worldwide according to Pew). Even Canada is only at 15%. In most countries the things we call regular youth are seen as degenerate behavior societally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:22 AM
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That is also self-improvement advice No it isn't lmao. There's zero self improvement needed to stop going on dates. Nothing about that makes you a more attractive partner to the opposite sex. Just because that isn’t the advice that you would give women, doesn’t mean it’s not advice. See here's the issue. You're calling it advice, which it is. I'm saying it's not SELF IMPROVEMENT advice, which it isn't. How does being more selective about who you date improve you as a person? I can tell you how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:24 PM
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MensLib is the absolute pits. They're a group of male misandrists that openly shame male victims of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:14 PM
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RP advice #1 is always lift/improve physical looks. I've never seen an FDS post about how many women need to lose weight to attract the men they want. Last time someone said this I told them to find me a self improvement thread in FDS. The best they found was a thread where a woman was discouraging other women from going into high paying tech fields because "it gives LVM access to their time through the workplace." It's clearly not for self improvement and there's no self improvement advice on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:00 PM
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Not even because the first piece of advice RP will give you is get your ass in shape. FDS doesn't even pretend to be about self improvement on any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:57 PM
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Lmao. Your parents taught you to fear men now you're mad you can't get one to like you but instead of blaming your bad upbringing you blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:55 PM
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I really do want you to look up Gloria Steinem. Bookmark this if you need to, but start looking into the rabbit hole behind modern feminism if you want a treat. The US government learned how to use and abuse soft power to push their goals and narratives during the Cold War and they've done a great job so far. The fact there's even a crisis of boys and girls not pairing together is a sign they've been successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:43 PM
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That may be your inclination but isn't conclusive based on statistics. Source? K. Look up Gloria Steinem. She was probably the public face of 70s-90s feminism and a confirmed CIA agent (she openly admits to it - of course she denies that they used her for any negative goals). At the end of the day the rich are getting richer, and the whole idea of modern women is adding to this. No way women should go back into the house, but we shouldn't be pushing narratives that teach both men and women to ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:14 PM
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This is like saying all words are silly. Terms will exist to describe different things no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:54 PM
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Being married nor lower divorce rates don't necessitate healthy relationships. No but they're undeniably healthier than NO relationship, right? Or tons of different relationships, right? And this is again statistical fact. Marriage isn't perfect, it's better than the current alternative of single old people running around with issues/having people in and out their homes while having children. but the answer is to find a forward thinking solution, not turn by the clock and return to the old ways …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:52 PM
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I find this blatantly anti-intellectual. Sure with your unscientific mind. This leads to bias coating the reasoning. Once you establish a fact, the next step is to see which explanation is backed up the most by hard evidence and other facts. Umm... That's literally what I said. "The one thing we should all agree on are the facts" is literally in my post. I'm literally saying the explanations don't matter and the facts do, you just called that anti-intellectual, and then agreed with it in the nex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:14 PM
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without it leading to them assigning actions by individual women to a broader idea of "female nature". This makes absolutely no sense. You think people wouldn't come to the conclusion that there's a female nature just based on the advice given, and how women generally react to things differently from men? In my experience, it was believing all the women I dated were the exact same that actually hindered my results, until I dispelled with that idea entirely and just spoke to each woman as an indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:09 PM
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Your other points seem to be driven by emotion. You know saying this isn't an argument, right? Once again, an argument based on a poor understanding and interpretation of statistics. No it's an argument based on objective reality. More people were getting married, and less people were getting divorced. There isn't a single country with a higher single parent household rate than the modern USA. Obviously this shit isn't working out. There's zero statistical evidence to your claims which is why yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:04 PM
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I think your issue here is you assume everyone has the same moral and logical background you do so if they think critically like you did they'll come to the same conclusions based on this data that you naturally came to. That's a very smug way to thinking very common on the left (I'm on the left too but grew up in diverse enough environments to know this isn't reality). Two intelligent people can hear the same thing, think critically, and come to wholly different reasons for believing what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:48 PM
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What is the middle ground? Blue pill is wholly wrong about literally every little thing. It's useless. I'd agree much of RP thought is mistaken, but I see no reason why PUA content can't go mainstream again if women let it and everyone wouldn't be happier for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:45 PM
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PUA and TRP have merged at this point, I don't think you can separate them. I see TRP as an evolution of PUAs but I will agree with you that back when it was strictly PUA based it was more helpful. That was also called toxic and deplatformed though which is why it receded into the background of the internet and grew to be TRP in the first place. You only come across RP men that don't want to wife hoes? You want me to believe that? You're just saying shit. I want to know how. Get specific. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:42 PM
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how you can give the same information without pulling men down further. What's pulling men down is the behavior of women clashing with their ideals of what women should be. The only way to remove the toxicity is to bring it mainstream and teach men these things from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:29 PM
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I still want an answer to that first part of my post. That or you can retract that first post you made in this thread/admit it's nonsense like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:28 PM
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This has big "just stop being poor." Energy. You didn't just start being more confident, more socially calibrated, and going on more dates. You followed TRP and it made you more confident, more socially calibrated, etc. Agreed on MGTOW but here's your exact quote, "most men I have come across are less into the actual idea of a traditional woman, and more looking to quell their insecurities." That wasn't your contention. You're speaking about all men (because even outside of TRP most men don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:19 PM
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From my own experience, this is not the case From your own experience you literally grew out of RP rage... And even so, most men who I have seen grow out of the rage phase, drop TRP altogether as they realize that is in part what was adding fuel to the fire. Look I know tons of guys that have gone through RP rage and most leave TRP community (a problem I think) but still call themselves purple pill or white pill or whatever term they're making up now. Either way they still use the teachings. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:10 PM
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Because while in one particular case it may not make a difference in outcome, it leads to misaligned and poor logical thinking skills, which in turn can bleed into other areas, especially in relationships in general. How? Explain how the general advice to let a man know "women that sleep around aren't good for relationships" can generally affect one in a negative way. Especially in a way more negative than "n counts don't matter" since we can both agree (either through studies or personal experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:03 PM
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This is what you claim, sure. Not really believable. Talking to women alone wouldn't get you 40 women in a year without the tactics. Yes your experience with women changed you, but TRP led you to be able to have that experience with women in the first place. Again this goes together with the idea that men that have more sex have more egalitarian attitudes. The mindset shift wasn't going to happen without your experiences with women and you wouldn't have gained that experience with women without …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:52 PM
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And these creators alleviate themselves of responsibility by not understanding their root audience and how their rhetoric can lead these men down a worse road. But it doesn't necessarily do that though. You're literal proof that it doesn't. Sure some men might be led down a worse road, but for most it'll be for only a short period of time. RP rage is eternal only in a few men. Most posters you see in that RP rage phase are younger dudes under 21 larping. They'll grow out of it in 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:46 PM
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Except the diagnosis is what matters. Why? You're not explaining why this is an issue. For the tangible effects on his life and the lives of women he deals with (he being our hypothetical RP man) it doesn't matter if he thinks it inherently makes women worse to have high n counts or if he thinks a high n count is indicative of personal issues she might have that makes her unworthy of a relationship. Either way he's not dealing with her in any serious capacity which is the right thing to do. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:44 PM
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Again, a very common argument I see. I mean because it's obvious. I have something against men telling other men to do things they didn't do. In your case you pivoted to TRP, worked your way out of RP rage and instead of telling men about your honest experiences with it similar to this you're chomping at the bit to shit on other men for brownie points because you personally didn't like your experiences with it (even though it undeniably worked in the way it's supposed to work for you). Even if a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:32 PM
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2-6 would be considered high even among TRP. 2 isn't high according to anyone. There's not many (if any) RP content creators out here saying go find a virgin. But in any case, this is once again a result of allowing emotion to lead to conclusions based on data. Oh god... See the goalpost moving again? If someone say has slept with more than 10 people, if evidence shows they might have less success in marriage or relationships, this could be for tangential reasons in regard as to why they slept w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:12 PM
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If you look at any major creator on any of their videos the comments are filled with vitriol and spite. Now you're moving the goalposts. Your initial point was that guys like F&F are a natural result of TRP so RP guys being upset at them isn't justifiable because they led to them. Now you're pointing out that other content creators that aren't openly misogynists have misogynist fans. That's true but I don't see what that has to do with the original post, or how TRP breeds this misogyny. The miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:04 PM
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Just because something has benefits doesn’t mean one shouldn’t criticize it’s shortcomings and flaws. I'm not against this at all. I'm critiquing your ideas that: RP isn't helpful when in your personal life it was helpful. Men actually want hoes if they're not insecure. Your relationship history doesn't say anything about you going forward into new relationships. Scientific evidence doesn't matter because you personally don't agree with it. I watched your video before today and honestly it wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:58 PM
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It didn't. You just said it did. Those with a more unrestricted sociosexuality — meaning those who were more inclined towards casual sex — tended to begin their marriages less satisfied and remain less satisfied over time. And people with more unrestricted partners tended to experience steeper declines in satisfaction, which in turn predicted marital dissolution. “When people couple up, they (and their partners) enter into relationships with their own personal relationship histories — if those h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:50 PM
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OK I know you're not stupid so you're doing this on purpose to be inflammatory. I’m all for a more healthy version of TRP but as long as the grifters exist they obviously will attract the bulk. Prove this. Like I said in my post F&F goes viral because of how they market themselves and how many viral moments they have. Their actual videos don't get more views than other RP content creators (even when only limiting it to other black RP content creators). Stop saying random lies with no proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:40 PM
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The one with actual scientific studies posted that prove people with more sexual partners are likely to be worse for monogamous relationships and the other one with studies that proved women wane in sexual desire while men don't in LTRs. There was nothing at all emotional about it, you're wholly writing off studies because you think they're wrong without any scientific evidence disproving the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:34 PM
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My contention was that the majority of what I learned was basic social skills you can learn in any self help book. You didn't learn it when presented to you in that way though did you? The other info all regarding to red Pill stuff is what led to poor views of women. And that's a personal failing. If you have a son you'll be giving him RP nuggets through his whole life, yes or no? I know I don't identify as RP, but my dad's dating advice to me growing up was 100% RP advice (even things like spin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:32 PM
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I'm guessing you meant to say the biggest RP presence? In that case it's a no. They're the only people associated with both traditional RP and the black manosphere though so they have a lot more visibility than a channel their size would normally have (and now that the black manosphere has dumped them they're relying on Akademics and children to support them mostly). Look at their actual view counts on their videos though. They still get less views than (for example of an openly RP youtuber that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:27 PM
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This seems true at face value but single women and men are doing terrible financially here in the real world. Statistically. Married women that aren't working are less likely to be homeless in retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:39 PM
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They always blame it on being male. Nah most men say it's completely different because men that can have sex with a lot of women are more highly valued by women than men that can't. As a man if you want to be your dream woman's dream partner you'll have to have plenty of experience with women before you meet her. Men don't value experience in women as much as women value experience in men so sleeping around isn't actually helping you work towards a goal. Also I find women with low body counts th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:37 PM
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Most men I have come across are less into the actual idea of a traditional woman This is as dumb as saying women don't want traditional men. Marriages used to last for whole lifetimes, why wouldn't both men and women look for partners with those values? they feel a woman with no of few sexual partners can’t judge their sexual performance Also dumb. Statistically speaking women and men with more sexual partners are worse for monogamous relationships. That's just a fact. Every man I know with over…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:19 PM
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Femininity is literally defined as the opposite of masculinity. You don't get to define femininity any more than men do. We both define both terms with aggregate actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:11 PM
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F&F are still extremely small time. Their issue is their fanbase is almost exclusively under 21 and the exact type of guys that shouldn't be seeing their videos. It's odd because I grew up with the old school PUAs and honestly looking back on that it was a lot more pure. F&F is basically a vehicle for far right political opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:09 PM
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The video is funny because basically you admit TRP is accurate and works, it just wasn't healthy for your personal mental state. Seems like you're attaching personal problems to an ideology, either way it's impossible to say TRP wasn't a net positive in you're life, so it's odd you'd tell other men to stay away. Of course the grifters are an issue but overall it's a positive thing for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:06 PM
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You going to respond to the other dude? He's laying out facts pretty thick unlike your posts, it'd be nice to see if you have any sort of response.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:50 PM
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Shocking. Maybe taking advice from lesbians isn't helping you with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:13 PM
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You got a husband? Because it sounds to me like a bunch of women that don't understand men or healthy relationships talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:25 AM
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I said any man worth a damn. Not a man in need of therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:24 AM
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I don't deal with women that don't want me or think it makes sense to pretend they don't want me. Too many women out here that would be happy to be with me (like my current GF) to do that. When I was younger I fell for that, but now I realize usually those type of women got issues and don't trust men in general. Hell the best women I've dealt with were either when we were young and inexperienced or women that have been through therapy. It's something that can benefit all men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:30 AM
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I mean if you're consistent about that sure waiting makes sense. If you're waiting because you don't want to like him too much you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. Like if you don't want him to leave go all out and hope he steps up. If it doesn't work out that's ok, you'll live to try again. Better than self sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:28 AM
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Entering interactions in bad faith is a good way to insure a bad result.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:19 PM
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Whatever you're trying to do it makes you look hurt. Have a nice day though and I hope you find your peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:57 PM
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You sound hurt that we don't care about your opinion on our matters. I know you're trying to get a rise out of me but honestly this post is sad. So many people in this sub (including you) would benefit from therapy. Think about it, don't take it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:16 PM
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You're team rainbow pill, this ain't your business lmao. No one straight benefits from dating advice from non straight people, just like y'all don't benefit from our advice. Two totally different monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:00 PM
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I am a polyamorous lesbian Why are you even here discussing straight people's matters then? Go have fun and mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:38 PM
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because if a girl has sex too soon men treat her badly and won't commit. This isn't true. Now if you have sex too soon men are now trying to get more out of sex from you so if that's all you can offer sure they won't commit. If men were willing to commit to sluts, women would never make men wait. You're too damaged to gain commitment from good men (because they run for the hills) so you think entertaining a bunch of men is the only way to find a single good man. On top of that you think men don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:27 PM
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No you're describing why women with trust issues do things women with trust issues do. I'm telling you to fix those trust issues and you'll have better experiences with men. You don't speak for all women, just the damaged ones that aren't relationship material. Just like guys on here that say never commit don't speak for all men, just the broken ones. Any woman that thinks like you do is problems waiting to happen and any man with his head on straight will avoid you leaving you with more men wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:16 PM
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You are saying date them for a while Who said for a while? I literally said a meet up so you can see them. Obviously if he's not the same person in person you thought he was you can back out of it. Either way you shouldn't go on a date if there's zero chances of you having sex with a man that night if things go well. Why not just drop the idea that women should have sex on the first date since you clearly don’t actually agree with it once you’ve thought about it. Meeting in the park for a few mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:44 PM
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Are you going to stay on topic? You're claiming men that think like that think the best thing women can offer men is sex. If anything it's the women that make men wait that think that. You had sex early because you understood you had more to offer and it worked out I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:41 PM
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If sex wasn't the best thing you could give a man why are you withholding it? In my experience women that withhold sex have nothing else to offer. Women with more to offer treat sex like something they want and let their other positives keep the man for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:28 PM
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That's literally a trust issue lmao. "Guarding your heart"? Go to therapy don't put your trust issues out into the world to fuck up the dating market. This is the same as guys that get into relationships and never stop entertaining other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:26 PM
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But one with zero expectations for sex. Even the most RP men wouldn't think meeting up in a park gives you an expectation for sex. If a man goes out with a woman it's because they want to have sex with them. Vet a man before a real date if you want to date em and not waste anyone's time. The same way you'd vet him ON the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:25 PM
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"I really like him, and I know I will feel even MORE attached if we have sex, and then be gutted if he ghosts, so I will wait until I can be reasonably sure he likes me back before going to far. Trust issues are a red flag. Go to therapy if you have this mindset is not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:49 PM
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Meet up before you go on a date. It can be at a park, or over coffee or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:02 PM
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It's like the idea of not going on a date with a bunch of dudes you don't like and wasting everyone's time and money never crosses the mind of women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:40 PM
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Most men that don't find their young love want to play the field but if they ever do hit that point of success they go one of two ways: They learn it's not really what they want. They lose their ability to trust women completely and become toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:19 PM
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This is very true. I have a friend that's always trying to do casual sex but it's just not him. He could do it if he wanted, but he ultimately self sabotages or ends up with year long exclusive flings which is a GF in all but name.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:09 PM
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Oh you know him? You've seen this in action?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:17 PM
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He's an actor that only dates super models you're insane if you believe this lmao. Maybe that's how you feel about him but it's not what he actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:14 PM
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Yeah the status comes from the fact that all men want to do it but can't. If you can do it you're high status because you're living the dream. This is like saying people want to be rich for the status and not for the luxuries it affords you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:11 PM
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Whether humanity continues, is not a good or a bad thing. We as humans assign value to it. Yeah and as a human.I think the extinction if our species is a negative. You don't have to believe the same thing, you're weird and that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:05 AM
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I doubt that everyone agrees with that. Starting today no one else conceives or has another baby. Is that good or bad for society? Come on now... Ceasing to exist is not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:25 AM
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Do you think people have partners only to have kids? Most people, yes. Most people want kids, so that's their primary reason of wanting a partner. Outside of that I think people want partners just because they think they're supposed to want to or because as other people have kids and start families they start feeling left out. I have never understood where the desire of wanting children comes from. If rainbow pill means what I'm assuming it does of course you don't. Thought it was all social pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:20 AM
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No anger. Just laughing at you my guy. Have fun Chet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:42 PM
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Everyone likes to think they have empathy. If you've been in this situation and your relationship hasn't changed (assuming you're not either asexual or demisexual) good on you. But a lot of these comments are cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:32 PM
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and who won’t cheat You said this like black men cheat considerably more than other men lmao. accept backslash from community and date interracially. There's little backlash for black women that date out. Look at the heat Michael B. Jordan took because he was only seen publicly with white women vs the lack of heat Serena took for marrying a white man or at how many women celebrated Meghan Markle marrying into probably THE premier white supremacist family of the modern era. Kanye got shit on for …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:54 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5937254/ Behaviorally, men and women evidenced comparable decreases in negative emotion experience. Neurally, however, gender differences emerged. Compared with women, men showed (a) lesser increases in prefrontal regions that are associated with reappraisal, (b) greater decreases in the amygdala, which is associated with emotional responding, and (c) lesser engagement of ventral striatal regions, which are associated with reward processing. We consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:45 PM
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A lot of guys call acquaintances friends too, but they'll have at least ONE close friend that knows damn near everything about them. Not common you'll meet male "best friends" that don't know anything about each other or fall out ever. Meanwhile women will have a new best friend every 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:33 PM
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Just because we’re young doesn’t mean we don’t have a serious relationship and doesn’t mean we can’t be engaged Did you not read my last sentence? They're serious relationships (or can be) but they aren't LTRs. You're in a serious relationship. Not an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:26 PM
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I literally only responded to her dumb ass comment that you can't make a woman cum with internal clitoris stimulation. The larger conversation at hand is separate from that dumb point she made. Good luck getting a woman to orgasm from g-spot stimulation. Really. Very few can, even when it’s done right. Good luck doing it. LMFAOOOOOOO. Speak for yourself I can tell you in my personal experience with women you're totally wrong and what you're saying is absurd statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:24 PM
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They say like 15% of men don't have close friends. It's a minority of men making those complaints. Meanwhile every woman I've ever met is more distant with their bestfriends than men are. Y'all keep a lot of acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:02 PM
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I mean... I understand women and men aren't the same so our expectations of each other shouldn't be the same. My only issue is women pretending they can be that emotional blanket for men and fucking up a relationship because the man is young or dumb and doesn't know better. If men know better, there's no issues. Thread I literally just read on this the other day from the perspective of a woman: https://twitter.com/evelynharlow_/status/1480569794382467074?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:53 PM
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How does any of this relate to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:49 PM
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That study was terrible. They focused on critically underweight people that (and this is key) weren't unhealthy and saw they had genes in common. Of course they did. I'm sure if they focused on critically overweight people that were healthy they'd find the same. Only 0.2% of the population has a BMI that low, and most of those people have health issues due to malnourishment. It would make sense the ones that don't have negative health effects because of undereating are genetically special in som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:19 PM
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It's all good. I knew there had to be some sort of misunderstanding here to work out the way you were asking the questions. It's on me not being clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:00 PM
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Nah I say we upvote the honest opinions and downvote the liars. Makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:59 PM
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Most upvoted answers will be from asexual or demisexual women. Liars will be up and down the thread saying it's totally ok while not at all knowing. Honest women will be downvoted. These threads are predictable. Women don't even emotionally support other women, they definitely don't want to emotionally support YOU. That's just taking on a lot of baggage most women can't handle (it's scientifically proven women hold on to negative emotions longer than men do). It's your job to be the emotionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:51 PM
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Women want someone to vent to, not to be someone others can vent to. Statistically speaking women hold on to negative emotions more than men. This is just how it is. Women aren't your emotional support nor do they want to be your emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:50 PM
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Y'all are killing her for this comment at least she's being honest. What she's saying is true for most women even if they wouldn't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:48 PM
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Just so long as it's not at a frequency that indicates a deeper problem. You get one cry a year fellas make it count.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:47 PM
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Yep. This is why I hate what the fat acceptance movement has become. I remember when it first started the goal was just to inform people they need to stop shaming fat people because it wasn't helping and they were encouraging healthier eating habits. Now it's turned into "you're healthy at your size and should be happy to be at your size." Which is just wrong. Shaming doesn't work but neither does telling people it's alright to be 250 at 18 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:33 PM
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It's familial but not genetic. You learn bad eating habits young and it carries into adulthood. I've had to unlearn my bad eating habits I learned from my parents and the poverty they grew up in and that we were raised in. Things like not leaving the table before the plate is clean (no matter how full I was), eating until I was full, eating EVERYTHING if I go out and pay for it (I still struggle with this), etc. so I understand the struggle. Still I unlearned those bad habits, lost 70-80 lbs, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:08 PM
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I know you're autistic but there's common phrases of speech. Someone saying ALL WOMEN ARE HYPERGAMOUS is obviously not accounting for asexual women, right? Why would they also not be talking about demisexual women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:04 PM
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You're in a thread by a teenaged girl that thinks viewing dating as a marketplace is the biggest failure someone can make and you're making a top level reply to her. Why are you assuming SHE can put two and two together like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:02 PM
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She's a teenager that's where she's coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:00 PM
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E.g. many Caucasian men can easily date high quality black girls. Absurd and statistically false. White men are actually rated lowest by black women among all other men. Y'all get the white washed black women if anything which is cool because that's what you want but they're not highly valued by their own which is why they venture out to white men. Same as how black men assume white women are easy because the white women that want black men are easy while ignoring the fact that these are usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:59 PM
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He's Mr. Clean Up Your Room why would anyone expect his opinion to be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:57 PM
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It's the difference between wealthy people and poor people. Nah but it's the difference between wealthy people and rich people and the difference between poor people and well off people. But overall you're right. Anyone living life not maximizing their probabilities of success is likely going to fall short of whatever goal they have. None of your favorite businessmen just created some shit and got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:55 PM
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I think you're disregarding the nature of economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:52 PM
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You're a demisexual aren't you? No one is discussing demi and asexuals here all the time you know that. You've heard it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:49 PM
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You've been with someone for 6 months and you're talking about being on pace to being married? You're still a child. 2 years (I'm guessing while in highschool and not being adults) is your only LTR. 6 months, 1 year, and 6 months again AREN'T. LTRs. They're serious relationships (or can be) but they aren't LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:47 PM
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I don’t think my post should be written off because I’m a teenager Hard disagree but I would've thought the same thing you did 10 years ago. Part of growing up is coming to terms with the fact that you don't know shit and hopefully by 25 you hit the point where you realize all this shit has been figured out already and you start to talk to your elders for an understanding of how things truly are. They won't get all the little parts right but the general ideas will be completely on point. Even bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:44 PM
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You're missing the key phrase here that should be appended to your post: *relative to their competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:40 PM
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There's no facts to backup what you're saying. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/patientinstructions/000586.htm You should plan to return to your pre-pregnancy weight by 6 to 12 months after delivery. Most women lose half of their baby weight by 6 weeks after childbirth (postpartum). The rest most often comes off over the next several months. The average woman gains 2.5-5 lbs if you compare their weight pre pregnancy to their weight a year after pregnancy. The average non pregnant woman gains 1.94 lb…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:22 PM
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*because they're content having bad sex lives. Women marry these dudes for sure but they're not fucking them lol. If you wanna keep having sex you gotta look good enough to make her want to or you'll just be good for everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:04 PM
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No they're not wrong. But the flip side is that women don't see sexual attraction as part of a relationship. You can visibly see how unmatched their looks are, you can't physically see the fact that she doesn't have sex with him outside of once a month to keep him not cheating. Remember the whole dual mating strategy TRP teaches. This lines up with it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:02 PM
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It's not genetics it's eating habits. If they have bad eating habits and aren't in the gym chances are they'll fall apart some time in the future. It's why I complain about it but I like mousey eaters. Women that aren't mousey eaters are usually a red flag for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:57 PM
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I personally hate makeup on women (it looks fake) but thanks for posting this. I've been saying for a while that porn stars are usually 5s with amazing bodies because they hit the gym and having women here say I'm wrong. That's why the term "too pretty for porn" exists. Like I always say, an average woman that works out heavily is legit able to pull whatever man she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:51 PM
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I mean that's how the richest man in the world ends up with Grimes lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:48 PM
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https://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2009/11/17/men-arent-always-less-sociable https://time.com/4978727/bromance-male-friendships/ (Also worth mentioning in one of these studies 29 of 30 men were shown to have these types of close friendships). All I'll say is it's scientifically proven men are better friends. There's a reason many women want male friends, but not many men want female friends. So you'd have sex with a woman who you wouldn't enjoy spend time outside of having sex, but for an L…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:46 PM
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I feel more like you responded to the incoherent ones because you have an agenda here but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:29 AM
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Less misogynistic then men that don't get women. It's statistically proven at this point. And yeah women don't mind misogynistic men, they generally don't care either way as long as he treats them specifically right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:09 AM
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The truth is men that get laid are less misogynistic. Whether or not you're misogynistic has zero effect in you being laid, but having positive relationships with women makes you more positive minded towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:36 PM
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How did you choose what to respond to? What will you do with the information gained from these answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:24 PM
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He's a grifter. I said it in another comment any of these dudes preaching opposite of what they practice are in it for easy money and conning suckers. Rollo talks all this shit about not getting married with a family at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:19 PM
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I did google that and the only credible sources linked to articles on psychological ABUSE because psychological VIOLENCE is a dumb oxymoronic phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:08 PM
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I mean its in the many answers to this thread you've seemed to ignore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:07 PM
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I think it can Go ahead and argue the societal benefits of hedonism. Please I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:55 PM
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neither is objectively better or worse. One of these things is objectively better for the health of society and humanity. I don't think that can be argued.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:45 PM
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Did I say that? Are you justifying a sentence she won't even stand behind herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:28 PM
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It should've never evolved beyond PUA. Much better times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:17 PM
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It's kind of...sad, I guess. I think it's sad women can't be good friends to people so you guys have to rely on an SO to have a close relationship with someone that'll take being an emotional sponge in exchange for what it is he wants. So would you or wouldn't you date someone who didn't bring any friendship benefits to your relationships You're conflating sexual access to me with access to my time, and I probably should've been more clear. For an example I've lived in my current home for 5 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:07 PM
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They're not rare, but they're in the minority. There's wild answers on both ends in this sub because a lot of people come here to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:57 PM
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And we can call her out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:48 PM
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Most women and quite a lot of men. On the flip side most men and quite a lot of women are more like me. I guess I should have specified that most people wouldn't date such partner long-term. What's long term. To me LTR means working towards marriage. I know guys that have been with women they can't stand for years but they were never going to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:47 PM
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I've never seen that so w/e. Can't speak on it. Either way OP shouldn't be focusing on a minority opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:29 PM
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We can definitely agree there. My point is that with all the people out there broke and employed I wouldn't ever say someone able bodied shouldn't be working. Everyone shouldn't be working. A lot of these employed broke people would've been better off deciding to become a housewife and preparing for that instead of pretending they wanted to be productive members of society outside of their household and falling short due to a lack of real motivation and drive. On the flip side I know a woman tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:16 PM
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I don't put the guys who are successful in their own right in the same grouping as the guys who's only brand and claim to success is "I'm so fucking alpha buy my brand and be alpha like me!" I mean he's a successful man. He still says a bunch of shit he clearly doesn't believe for the grift. Hell the whole reason he's gone away from making male focused content is the grift. I also wouldn't cheat on my wife, also a man of God. But I see no reason secular men should stay monogamous or even get mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:14 PM
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Then who will provide for her? Will she live with her parents till her next sucker/knight in shining armor let’s her move in rent free? She's 21. Going to live with her parents isn't wild at 21 lmao. she can still go to school and build a career. You don't need to go to school to build a career. Women need to stop telling other women this shit this is why 2/3rds of the US debt is held by women but only 1/3rd of US wealth is owned by women. No one should aspire to just be a waitress or some minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:08 PM
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Totally. All the Jack Murphys and Rollo Tomassis and Kevin Samuels of the world are lames. Promoting shit they don't even live themselves (Jack being a cuck while shaming it publicly, Rollo having a wife while telling his followers not to get married, Kevin saying men can cheat while claiming he's a man of god that would never cheat on a woman himself).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:01 PM
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That man can kick her to the curb tonight. Who hurt you and caused you to distrust men? You've ever seen anyone to discuss this? And if he does kick her to the curb she can go get a job and build up her finances like most women do. She's 21, living with your parents is not odd at that age and a job as a waitress (if she finds a high end place) can pay her more than enough to stack up and build if she's financially smart. Definitely a better idea than most women have (which is to build a career t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:58 PM
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I mean you're in a fun ass thread trying to be negative. No one likes a party pooper, what type of reaction were you expecting to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:55 PM
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Yep. Tons of guys use TRP to up their toxicity. Many use it to fix relationship issues. Women don't look behind the curtains so they only see the surface (what makes them happy or sad). My GF is happy as hell and knows I believe all these things but I'm sure she'd be quicker to associate TRP with her ex boyfriend that had mommy issues more than she would with me if she was on reddit and reading these types of things. Hilariously her ex was actually blue pilled as fuck going off what she's told m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:53 PM
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A majority of able-bodied women do depend on other people for money and a roof over their head, or they will before their time here ends. 61% of women don't have nearly enough retirement savings to live past retirement without the help of another person or the government and that's including married women (if you don't include them it's closer to 80%). Many single women have more debt than assets (median wealth for single women is $5000). I'd only argue that she doesn't need to have his kids bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:47 PM
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How does this make any sense? We're in a thread about annoying our girlfriends, not eating pussy. Go get laid you need it. EDIT: Also does she even want her pussy ate? Like how are you out here assuming she's unhappy in her marriage? They seem to have a very loving and fun relationship regardless of if he eats her out or not. Some people don't even get off that way (I've personally never cum from oral in my life).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:42 PM
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I love how she's here contributing to his life and you assume that's living off of him. Unless they have some insane age gap there's nothing wrong with her situation. Always living in the negative and worried about harm reduction, anything worth having ain't easy and sometimes you have to put yourself in uncomfortable positions to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:40 PM
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TRP is 99% grift. The manosphere has some people that aren't into grift. Anyone that wants to get into RP adjacent thought would just be good to watch the Black Phillip Show (all episodes) and all the free game Patrice was giving there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:38 PM
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That's not what the stats say though. That's the man YOU chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:35 PM
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You said the real failure would be staying in a miserable marriage. Not "the real failure was having a child with someone I wasn't compatible with" or "the real failure was contributing to a miserable marriage." I see this in my parents. According to my mom my dad checked out the marriage for no reason and she has nothing to apologize for. my dad has apologized for checking out of the marriage and taken responsibility for his role in them splitting up. One of my first date questions is always wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:34 PM
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Nothing but sex = fuckbuddy. FWB are actually friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:29 PM
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Being right wing and red pill go hand in hand Not at all. Most far left men I know that are straight are RPed in some way. My friends and I have had conversations about how women in general are class traitors, an inherently Marxist way to look at relationships that's still very RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:25 PM
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She's conflating tradcons with RP. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:23 PM
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Is that what was said at all? We get it you hate DJ Khaled. Now either watch the funny videos of him getting on her nerves or move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:14 PM
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You're literally having sex with them how are you not more sexually open with them than you are with friends that you do not have sex with? Your friends know where your spot is? The noise you make when they hit it? How deep is too deep? Come on now... If you're not open with casual partners you're doing it wrong. You shouldn't allow access to your body to people you're not comfortable being sexually open with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:54 PM
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Women want positive emotions. Too many negative emotions and the only thing keeping y'all together will be the guilt she'd feel if she left you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:44 PM
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(psychological) violence. UUUGHHHHHH.... vi·o·lence /ˈvī(ə)ləns/ Learn to pronounce noun behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. Psychological violence is an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:40 PM
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ah then I just misread your comment, as in that it is always nonsense to wait. my bad It's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:33 PM
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Most people aren't like this Most WOMEN aren't like this. A lot of people wouldn't date a partner that didn't provide them with benefits of friendship and other things I've listed earlier. For them all these things are important, not only the ones they can't get without dating someone. I know zero men like this outside of one asexual man I've met. The same way y'all are confused by this is the same way men are confused women get into relationships and don't care about sex at all. We're different…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:32 PM
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OP asked why we want a relationship. We're not women we don't look for perfection. We look for the minimum and anything beyond that is a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:29 PM
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Can I ask you something? So you have tons of friends and whatever but not everybody does.. is it normal if one dates a guy and he doesn't have any friends, only acquaintances? Or is that sus? I'd say it's sus. Most guys I know, even guys without many friends, have one close friend at least. My little brother (for example) is a person without a friend that's that close and he's horrible for most women and generally unpleasant to be around (I love him but every time there's a vacation and everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:19 PM
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It validates my opinions when you react exactly how I thought you would. Does it? "See I was being an asshole on purpose!!!!" I must be such a headache if I'm not being "agreeable/bringing you peace" and challenging a statement you made, lol okay. Well no you seem like a headache because you talk down on people. Disagreements aren't inherently rude, but you are. "You should vet better." Yep and that's why outside of my current GF no other woman has made it past 3 months with me. I don't have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:01 PM
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Would you date someone who wasn't providing you these things I've listed? I would and have. My GF is one of two women I've had sex with before that I actually enjoy the company of. I'm not lying to anyone and pretending to want their company either I'm very open about when my relationships with women have been purely physical. The OP isn't asking for unique reasons, she asks for reasons besides sex and duties. But she's asking what we WHY WE WANT RELATIONSHIPS. The reason we would want a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:59 PM
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just wanting to live a simple life without having to raise another human being would be enough for many I guess. You can do that single without a husband. but that's not what I asked? you said that postponing having kids after 30 was nonsense and I asked why. I didn't say that. I said my GF's specific reasons for wanting to postpone having kids was nonsense. IDK everyone's reasons. Many probably have great reasons, I've just never heard them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:53 PM
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there are things you do or disclose about you that only your partner should know Like what? My goals and ambitions? I discuss those with my friends. My fears and insecurities? I discuss those with my friends. They might not be updated on my mental state all the time but they are occasionally enough to know more than my GF that hasn't known me all too long in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:51 PM
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That's beautiful to hear. A lot of young people don't understand this so they have the love you have but not the relationship. My parents to this day (10 years after divorcing) are madly in love but can't stand each other because their relationship was terrible. Both are way happier without each other in their lives but they will always be in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:49 PM
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probably 40 years their senior. You'd be surprised. It's a lot of 30-40 men looking to be dominated if the experience of dommes I've met are anything to go off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:47 PM
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Ok I'll say maybe that has been misinterpreted. Your partner, given enough time around you, should know more about you than anyone else. It's different for me because like I said before my GF has only known me 1/15th of the time my closest friends have. Have anything to say about my top level answer to this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:46 PM
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I cuddle with my friends Being physically closer doesn't make you closer. It's just creepy and weird. I guess you'll say they're substandard because we aren't getting in fights or going to jail, but if that's going on I'd say you probably need to reevaluate all your life choices. I didn't say we fought (the word nearly is there) and I've never spent a single night of my life in a cell. But it seems like you're one of those women that's basically in a relationship with her friends. That's not hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:42 PM
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somehow romantic friendship What's romantic about caring for someone, hoping for the best for them, and doing anything you can to support them if they need it? You do that for family I'm guessing, right? Are you romantically interested in them? For me romance is more important and with only friendship in my life I feel incomplete and/or have to channel the rest of my feelings towards my faith. Sure but you've explained already you don't have any close friendships. Romance and serious commitment …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:33 PM
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You sound like a headache already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:21 PM
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I think only modern women get the wrong impression from it. Everything else is irrelevant if you make my life hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:21 PM
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Why wait? Her excuse was "wanting to live life" so I asked her exactly what it was she wanted to do that she hasn't done, needs to do while she's in a relationship, and can't do after having children. She had no answer. I've never heard a good answer to this from women. Maybe you have one?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:19 PM
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she's asking why you want relationships in the first place. Yes and why we want RELATIONSHIPS are because of things unique to RELATIONSHIPS. Love. I love my friends and they love me back. That's not why I want a relationship, it's why I want a friendship. Companionship. Again I have this in friends. This is a reason to want a friendship. Friendship. Well... Don't even have to explain this one. Security. A uniquely feminine thing to look for a relationship for. Y'all want security. We want sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:16 PM
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Nah we say agreeable and pleasant because the vast majority of women are neither agreeable or pleasant. Tons of women basically behave like spoiled assholes and aren't ashamed about it. Most women do not bring you peace, so you gotta specify that's what you want (a woman to bring you peace).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:36 AM
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What else would there be lmao? You answer this thread if it's not a bad question. What are things you look for in a partner other than their personality, what they can do for you, sex, and don't say morals and values because I already covered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:31 AM
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Well no I didn’t have the worlds best magic friends ever who act like more than family and most people don’t. IDK if I agree with you that most people don't if you mean men. Most men I know have at least one really close friend. It's a minority of men that don't have that type of connection with at least another guy. and part of being romantic is being yourself with someone and seeing that side of them. I'd say this is part of being friends and you really just have a bunch of acquaintances but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:30 AM
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She asks whether there are any other reasons besides them. From the OP: Many of you have admitted you don’t really care about a woman’s job or income or personality, beyond being “pleasant” or “agreeable.” We can't say personality here (because she doesn't respect what personalities we like) so what else is there? My GF has a bunch of other quirks to her personality and things she adds outside of just being pleasant and peaceful but can I say I was looking for those things? No. I guess maybe mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:23 AM
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You nailed it. And what you said made sense. Why the fuck am I even here? 😂😂😂 Hey I know too many young love relationships. They're pure and fundamentally different from other ones so when you hear a description like yours it becomes obvious. It's that puppy love that only inexperienced kids can have with each other. Although I know your comment comes from a good place, I feel this motto is very deterministic and can lead to not only your unhappiness but also the unhappiness of your partner. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:17 AM
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Firstly I did not sleep with my friends I thought we weren't talking about sexually. Come on let's go beyond that that's low hanging fruit. For that matter you're more sexually open with casual partners too. There is also more to openness and connection than just over sharing. There is truly being a partner with someone snd knowing their vulnerabilities. I'd say I have this with all my friends too. Maybe the gap is I have deeper friendships than you do. I know I grew up in a family that's way mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:10 AM
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The OP hasn't said that these reasons have to be specific for romantic relationships. From the OP: Do you have any... reasons to get into a relationship with a woman? So am I to take this to mean friendships with a woman? Let's not be dense. She clearly means a romantic relationship. I guess her question can be re-phrased into "do you really enjoy spending time with your partners?" This is a dumb question. And are we not allowed to factor sex and acts of service into why we enjoy spending time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:56 AM
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I'm sure you've known your husband long enough for that to be true. There was a time you didn't. Before he was your husband. Were you more genuine with him than all your friends? Maybe you're not open with all your friends. I am. Outside of bedroom stuff there's nothing my friends can't tell you about me or my thought processes and nothing I wouldn't be open to share with them. And even when it comes to bedroom stuff they've heard at least the story of the time I got "sexually assaulted" (put in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:47 AM
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Yeah and the answer is no. I'll just link my top level comment I made to OP here: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/s1ulvo/q4m_why_do_you_want_a_relationship/hsb886c/ It's really that simple. You're describing a friend, not a SO. Nothing about being a good friend is important for a romantic relationship specifically. It's important for all relationships. I'm a good friend with my friends without being sexually exclusive to them. If all I wanted from a woman was that we'd stay fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:35 AM
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Well usually most people have known their friends longer. My GF has known me 1/15th of the time I've known some of my best friends. Obviously they'd have a way more intimate understanding of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:32 AM
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You can enjoy spending time with someone you're not in a relationship with so why is that something important to mention when you're talking about why you're in a relationship with someone? It sounds to me like you want a friend if you don't think duty is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:31 AM
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Should people endure unhappiness just so we can keep these darn numbers down? They shouldn't get married if they're not serious about it in the first place. All you have in this world are you balls and your word, you don't break em for no reason. Imma take a random shot in the dark and say you're with someone you got with as a teenager? If so those relationships are very different from most that start after. Mainly the fact that y'all grew up together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:29 AM
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because I’m assuming You know what that does right? If I basically said “entertain me,” and he was getting nothing out of it So if you say entertain me and he does get something out of it that's not selfish I'm guessing? In that case why is that not selfish but expecting someone to perform tasks selfish if your partner gets something out of it? IDK your whole posts reads like the whole "I don't owe anybody anything and my life serves no purpose other than my own personal happiness" sentiment I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:26 AM
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How exactly is the guy you're describing morally bankrupt? Because he's single, sexually active, and has a lot of money he spends on traveling? I also think its excessive money to spend on traveling since you can do a lot for much cheaper, but it's not really a morality issue and it seems he can afford it (still dumb but...). I mean he agrees with me and understands that's not him. He was dealing with depression and alcoholism after a bad break up last year and that conversation with me is why h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:21 AM
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I tell my GF this is what she is all the time. We're gonna be like DJ Khaled and his wife. https://youtu.be/Yvs0SbIG0cM https://youtu.be/zEIAlNsyBtg We be on this shit all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:07 AM
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If you can't be genuine with friends get better friends. If anything you can be more genuine with them than a SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:05 AM
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The real answer is that the only reason I'd enter a monogamous sexual relationship with a woman is because I want kids and I see her being the mother of my kids someday. There's obviously requirements I expect of anyone that has access to me (bringing peace, basic compatibility, being a friend) but none of those things require sexual exclusivity. The ONLY reason to be sexually exclusive to someone has to be sexual in nature. And friendships are labor. I helped my friends move last time they move…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:04 AM
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You have friends for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:01 AM
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The mentality of just doing shit because it makes you feel good is why divorce rates are so high. If you're committed to nothing but personal pleasure your relationship is as strong as you are happy with your personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:00 AM
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If you consider wanting to be around someone because they make you happy as selfish, then any relationship is selfish. You're the one acting like expecting anything out of someone is selfish. You literally said that. If I want to be around someone because he is funny and smart and a good conversationalist, that doesn’t sound selfish to me. How not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:56 AM
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You asked what he wants in a partner not what he'll do for one. This response is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:54 AM
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You realize they could easily live off what they already have or their investments right? How many really rich people do you know? Most quit their regular jobs and basically spend all their time looking for shit to do and ways to be productive. The ones that were raised rich were usually raised to value being productive. Every millionaire isn't working to be a billionaire. I know someone that came into millions off a settlement when his mom died. Dude works doing real estate and when he's not wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:47 AM
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You said men don't do it because women can divorce, take the kids, and make men pay for it. How is the response to that to weaken women's rights and not strengthen men's? If men could easily get their children in court, they wouldn't have to worry about this. If they didn't take Ls in divorces they wouldn't have to worry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:31 PM
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I hate the melting pot shit they teach in school. More like a salad if anything, hell a large part of the reason we do so much better with immigrants than other countries is that we really don't assimilate immigrants, we just let their kids and grandkids integrate into society completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:57 PM
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In all the studies I've seen, both men and women are childfree in similar amounts. Hmm that's interesting... Here's what I've found and what I've seen previously: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/men-want-kids-more-than-women-new-york-magazine-article-affirms-studies/ The largest, most comprehensive national study of single Americans in 2011 surveyed over 5,000 participants and found 24 percent of single men without children under 18 said they wanted children, compared to 15 percent of women. A 2013…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:55 PM
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If this was true it'd hold for all countries. Israel has access to contraceptives and more ease of access to things like abortion than the US. Israeli women have way higher workforce participation than women in the US. Israeli women are way more educated than women in the US (82% of women over 25 have graduated college in Israel). Israel was ranked as the 8th safest country in the world for women by the NWW group. Israel, unlike the western countries you're thinking of with low birthrates, is st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:43 PM
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Proper financial management can always be taught. If there's not much leftover after paying for necessities (and actually a bunch of people can't even afford the necessities without government intervention) financial management doesn't help much. Or is this to my comment saying women don't have greater relative financial success? Because all the money management tips in the world won't change the fact that women in general consume more than they produce. Of course, what we REALLY need is an obli…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:21 PM
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Ah yes my bad I forgot. I've seen you around here enough to know that, that's on me. Yeah you're right rural Russia back then was probably nearly as bad as Haiti.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:11 PM
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and women in red states who can afford it would just fly to other states (or countries) for abortions. Under the new Texas law this would be a crime if you were ever caught doing it. This is factually incorrect, women in red states (aka most states) would effectively lose their rights to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:09 PM
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If men had more rights to their kids why would this be an issue? How does reducing women's rights help men get their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:07 PM
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Right? God what an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:06 PM
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It was still much better. Rural America has commonly had power and plumbing in rural areas since the 20s. Even my great grandmother who's from the black side of town in the deep deep country (even in 2022 the closest Waffle House is 45 minutes away) has never lived in a home with no power and she had plumbing for most of her life. Right now only 40% of Haitians have access to power and IIRC only 25-30% have access to plumbing with 42% having access to clean drinking water. I know a lot of Haitia…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:04 PM
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He's not lying. There's a reason super rich people don't just stay at home and actually have jobs. Humans generally like doing things and being productive to society. Maybe they don't like working 40 hours, but they like working.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:59 PM
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Domme's aren't sexually pleased by what they do. I've met a few, they really hate men and love emasculating them. I've never met a domme that speaks positively about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:57 PM
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Ding ding ding. I'm tired of people acting like everything is good for society. My standard is that if I wouldn't want my own kids doing it I shouldn't advocate for others to do it. Like go ahead and be on OF, but understand it isn't a money maker for 95% of people on there, the people it is a money maker for it's only for a limited time, and that it'll severely limit your opportunities after the fact. It's just generally a bad idea that helps lead to social decay. Women that don't trust men due…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:55 PM
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It's also all a bit silly, given the much larger percentage of women getting degrees now, and their greater relative economic success recently. This is stupid. Women are getting degrees, but they 100% don't have greater economic success. 2/3rds of the US debt is held by women. Tons of women are going out there getting into heavy amounts of debt, and hoping a man that actually planned what he was going to do comes around to save them or that the government does. There's a major retirement savings…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:52 PM
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Literally the first comment I responded to: Maybe ironically or uncomfortably in this thread it would require the belief the act of penetrating is the same psychologically and physically as being penetrated, which would not be in line with Red Pill or much of the manosphere. I'm telling you you're wrong. You're ignoring "much" of the manosphere to focus on the few guys with this dumb ass opinion and now you're not standing behind it. If you misspoke just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:45 PM
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There's places with strong welfare states and higher than replacement level birthrates though. It's almost 100% cultural. In many societies women are judged by their families and contributions to society. In areas where they aren't birthrates are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:37 PM
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if not worse. Do you know anything about Haiti? Waaaay fucking worse lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:35 PM
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And the guys that aren't apathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:31 PM
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To them the caste system isn't imprisonment, it's natural. Not having a caste system is a prison only achieved through government intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:31 PM
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Don't put the whole dance on women's shoulders when it takes two to tango. It takes two to impregnate but outside of that it's 100% on women. There's not way less babies being conceived, there's way less children being born though. And when it comes to hangups over having children women are much more likely to be the limiting factor to having kids than men are. I know one childfree man in real life but I've slept with more childfree women than women that want children. Actually I don't know a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:23 PM
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I'm telling you the existence of 2 guys that believe this doesn't mean it's a common opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:17 PM
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men and women are different, and many of those differences revolve around sex. The act of sex is not physically or mentally the same. Ok I agree with this. Sperm is cheap is not a uncommon phrase, womens choosiness and ASD/LMR exists because the cost of sex is so much higher for women as they can become pregnant, ergo unwanted sex is mentally more taxing. No this is a huge leap in logic. The first two parts I agree with, the last I don't. Being violated is being violated. It's not comparable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:48 PM
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The bits that sort of insinuate sex for women is damaging and sex for men is good. So let me get this straight it doesn't say this, you just assume it does. So what's happening is you're misinterpreting ideas about sex as ideas about rape. 2 random not even highly upvotes comments This is your proof? It's overwhelmingly nobody saying it's no big deal for men. Come on now...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:49 PM
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Earlier today you were talking shit about people that want children in this thread. Yes or no do you support people that choose to live in traditional gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:03 AM
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Don't. I'm a former feminist that has never done anything but advocate for women and their rights. Actually in the precursor to this thread (a thread saying women would kill themselves if they were men) the other day I was in multiple comments defending the fact that women and men have different downsides to life with women's downsides mostly being physical/biological and men's being social. Meanwhile I've never seen you defend men in any thread around here, strange huh... Other women here like …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:02 AM
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You've said more than enough for someone to come to a conclusion about you. The whole way you entered this thread was wild disrespectful and showed how much you obviously hate men fighting for equality. You saw a large list of male issues and your response was "and?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:59 AM
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What's confusing about that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:58 AM
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My money is on you not being nearly as progressive about gender roles as I am. You'd lose your money. I don't give half a shit about gender roles and that includes people that want to still adhere to traditional gender roles. Can you say the same? Nope. You were just railing against people that want children earlier today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:52 AM
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Explains why you hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:49 AM
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Again asking a question on reddit ain't that. Just admit you were looking for any reason to write them off because even though they're left wing male advocates that focus on advocacy and not anti feminist sentiment that's not really what you want. You support MensLib because they (like most feminists) don't actually care about men's issues, not because you're egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:49 AM
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You claim to be an egalitarian so you should support the rights of men. I'm telling you I want to absolve men (as well as women) of the need for traditional gender roles. Why wouldn't you support that? Because I don't like feminists and I don't think that's their goal? Prove me wrong if I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:39 AM
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You hate the expectation traditional men have for women and the negative discrimination, not the positive discrimination they show towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:37 AM
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None of those situations are comparable to a thread on reddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:35 AM
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I mean... We've had 45.5 out of 46 be white men and I don't really care about that at all. I don't think it'd make any difference because the women in charge and men in charge all have the same exact goals. We have more women in Congress than we did when Roe v Wade was ruled on but women have less reproductive rights anyway. Representation doesn't matter at all. Not even a little bit. Black wealth dropped more under Obama than any other president. If anything representation is used as an excuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:46 AM
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I just want you to say "I'm married to a man" isn't actually a good defense here. Like you know it isn't. And I've seen you around here and you seem to have a problem with male sexuality in most forms. But you're right for all I know you don't like gay or bi male sexuality either so I apologize for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:02 AM
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I'm going off what you're saying. If you didn't speak in circles the rebuttals wouldn't be circular. As far as the other thread goes I think you were just saying anything you could to absolve yourself from the title of misandrist in the same way misogynists say things they don't truly believe in an attempt to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:00 AM
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Nah. I'm anti feminist because they advocate for an ahistorical take on oppression which paints all men as oppressors and women as victims when in reality both men and women are oppressors and the oppressed. Add to that the fact that feminism openly fights against men's abilities to shed traditional gender roles and I think ultimately it's a movement focused on female supremacy and distracting people from real issues more than anything else. Plenty of feminists are good people (just misled), but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:58 AM
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You had your children late and that's just when we started having data. Women have been able to vote since the 20s and they've outnumbered men since then. Women have been able to vote since 1920. Just because we don't have data from back then doesn't mean they didn't outnumber male voters. Especially when things like Prohibition were done on the backs of female voters (and prohibition came just as women got the right to vote so it's safe to assume women got politicians to change laws that early …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:55 AM
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I know plenty, none that would get offended over someone making a statement like that. I've had GFs open up to me the reason we had sexual compatibility issues was that they were raped previously, everyone isn't fragile like you assume they are and lots of people have grown past their trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:50 AM
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This explains nothing and is so incredibly vague. Give me what difference that you think would make female rape of male victims less harmful than male rape of female victims? What part of RP ideology says this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:49 AM
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Most So some don't? Ok explain why you're different from them. We both work, we keep our finances separate, there are no kids, and we're both apathetic to sex. Mmh so how are you explaining anything besides how little respect you have for traditional male sexuality? Why are the only men/forms of male sexuality that are acceptable to you asexual or LGBTQ? But actually being married or in a relationship? Couldn't care less. This ain't helping lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:16 AM
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Lol. So don't pretend you're for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:05 AM
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Since they have data which is the 60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:04 AM
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So now you're admitting you ARE against men advocating themselves of traditional male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:02 AM
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which would not be in line with Red Pill or much of the manosphere. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:01 AM
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What's sexist about his post? He's a complete and total sexist. They hosted an AMA for a man who's made his whole career minimizing male assault victims and criminalizing men. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/pc8uof/unpacking_the_chuck_derry_ama/ Tons of men left the sub after that. Regardless of how the userbase feels the mod team is still full of misandrist, feminist women. It's one thing to talk about in abstract. But the way he came at the other person in his comment was revolting S…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:00 AM
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A slap isn't likely to hurt anything but feelings and pride for both men and women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:41 AM
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Ideologies have an effect in practice that is different from the effect in theory because it has to interact with people and the real world. If an ideology cannot functionally interact with people than it is likely a form of social malware. Well this is assuming man is subservient to nature. I've seen enough examples in real life of humans living opposite of human nature to support our current system (capitalism/Democracy) to believe this. Imagine telling someone 1000 years ago we'd be where we …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:40 AM
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How is that at all making fun of asexual men? How is that at all bashing them? in reference to a comment of his saying "I just feel like a creep thinking about sex with people who clearly wouldn’t ever view me in the same light." Do you not see how men thinking it's creepy to feel that way having an internalized shame about sex with someone that you don't know doesn't want to have sex with you? I know a few asexual women, one thing they all had in common is feelings of shame around sex. One that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:03 AM
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Well considering homosexuality is a men's right issue they're pro LGBTQ, but not pro feminists because feminism isn't about egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:58 PM
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I got you now. Can't necessarily disagree but I'd say that's more of an effect of humanity and not something inherent to any one ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:57 PM
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If I hated men, I wouldn't be married to one. The #1 excuse of misogynists everywhere flipped on its head unironically. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:55 PM
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Your initial response to this was to blame men for not fighting for these issues. Ignoring the fact that they do. When men pointed out they just want women to be allies YOU mentioned you feel it's only a movement that exists to shit on feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:53 PM
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So basically you hate men because you perceive men as hating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:49 PM
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That's not anywhere in that post. Tell me again how you don't hate men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:49 PM
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Its a bias against men is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:46 PM
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You've failed to prove they use feminist analysis, just ctrl-f'd for the word feminism and acted as if you won.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:44 PM
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Why do they have to be pro feminists if feminists don't fight for egalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:43 PM
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It's not a package. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism You're conflating progressivism (a political ideology) with the rhetoric of elected officials that call themselves progressive. The real product is about moving forward with the wheel of time. The natural problem is that the cycle of life always leads us back to the same shitty places. Sometimes the next chapter is actually more dystopian than the previous one. And what does that mean in the context of this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:41 PM
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Most voters are women. Been that way for generations now. And representation means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:31 PM
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Rape has to be committed with a penis. Lmao. If we define rape as something only men can do only men are rapists. Smart
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:22 PM
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How is it a joke? https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/eljyvb/subtle_demonization_of_straight_male_sexualities/fdimvn1/ Let's see if you're really the advocate for equality you're claiming to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:11 PM
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Progressivism as an ideology is about democracy and equality. Conservatism is about upholding the current societal structure. Don't let your hatred of individual progressives and progressive ideals (especially in America) color your perception of progressivism as an ideology. I'm not a fan of either but there's a clear difference between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:10 PM
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Read the OP. When is feminism mentioned there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:05 PM
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Am I wrong? Find one mention of the patriarchy there? It's clearly not feminist analysis. I'm a former feminist (from before I realized feminism is not interested in absolving men of the male gender role) I've never read any feminist analysis of anything that made no mention of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:04 PM
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Ok but what about empathy. I empathize with people I have no respect for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:55 PM
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You're openly saying you don't support men fighting for their rights... Up and down this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:53 PM
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Feminists have a monopoly on equality now? Come in now they're using it as a shorthand to not have to teach the reader what intersectionality is, not necessarily using feminist analysis. There's zero mentions of patriarchy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:52 PM
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All the studies posted, which one mentioned feminist analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:43 PM
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men dominate both the political and legal spheres They're elected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:39 PM
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One man saying something online was enough for you to give up on egalitarianism? Send like you were looking for an excuse to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:38 PM
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You clearly support them too given how much you don't want to advocate for men absolving themselves of traditional gender roles. How do you have eww gender roles as a flair but your response to male rape by women is "and?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:28 PM
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Feminists don't have a monopoly on acknowledging issues with people in society. No part of any of that is a feminist analysis of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:11 PM
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Good luck making a woman cum by stimulating the internal part of her clitoris. Imagine not knowing what a g-spot is and being this confident in letting others know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:06 PM
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When you empathize you do that with people you have things in common with Huge leap in logic. Men have more empathy for women than they do for men, explain that if this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:57 PM
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Men's lib is a terrible sub to direct men to unless you want them to see defense of misandry everywhere. r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is the best sub for men that aren't on the right to discuss men's issues. MensLib does shit like invite host AMA's with people that openly say men can't be victims of rape and then defends themselves by saying "we're not a safe space for men."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:56 PM
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There is no objective top 20% of anything not quantitative. That's not how anything works. You're refusing to understand what these terms mean at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:17 PM
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No one said men are a monolith I said you named a bunch of women that are one type. They've all been marketed as sex symbols for a reason, because they're all stereotypically beautiful and sexy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:15 PM
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There's a large gap between wanting a more compatible person and expecting a man to put money into your child when he can go and make his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:14 PM
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It's not? Logical is that one demands more when they're more in demand. If you were asking for $10 an hour with a clean record it's not logical to now ask for $15 because you have a felony on your record and need to pay your PO every month now. It's understandable, but it usually doesn't lead to good results.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:12 PM
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Women being stay at home moms is happening less and less but a lot of women work part time now instead. A minority of married women work full time jobs in America and the only income brackets where married women work full time in general are the middle income brackets. Poor women don't work full time because it's cheaper to stay at home, collect government benefits, and have free childcare. Upper middle class to rich women don't work full time because their husbands earn enough for 2 people and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:10 PM
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Ok, so? I’m not talking about them. You're strawmanning the profession though. Sure they don't want the dumb waitress, but there's enough smart ones to go around. There’s also not enough college educated thin young pretty waitresses with minimal career prospects around for every man to get one. Maybe I'm misreading your post? And most college educated women don’t work at Starbucks. And just so you know, since you mentioned STEM: most men in STEM mock the college graduates working as waitresses o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:06 PM
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Always the back baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:56 PM
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You clearly don't understand frames of reference. If she places 20% of men over the rest that's he top 20% of men TO HER.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:33 PM
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Hilariously single mothers specifically like men less than other women. In my experience (I'm young so all my experience with women in general are women 25 and under) single mothers are somehow more demanding than their child free counterparts. It's hilarious the two women I've dated that wanted the most both had kids at home. Neither made it past date 1 (one never made it past coffee and the other didn't spring it on me until mid date that she had a kid) and I'm sure they think men are the issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:32 PM
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Because OP said this: I think that what someone does to attract others says something about what they themselves find attractive. It's literally in his post. What I do to attract women is what women want from me. I don't want from women what women want from me. I'm not looking for myself, I'm looking for my "better" half. Someone that can pick up slack in areas I fall short in and I'll pick up slack in areas she falls short in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:26 PM
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I mean you never know until it happens. I know some incredibly bright people that are absolutely dumb on certain topics. Ben Carson is the greatest brain surgeon ever and he's dumb as hell. For a lot of women they just never learn about those things. Most women I know know nothing at all about cars and mechanics. Even the woman I did all my group projects with and took all my classes with in college was absolutely lost when I was trying to explain to her on the phone where the spare tire was in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:18 PM
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Tons of pretty waitresses are college educated. It's 2022. I looked it up and 1/6th of waiters and waitresses have a bachelor's. My GF had a 4.2 GPA in highschool and graduated college on the honor roll but she's a waitress. She makes about 200 a shift on average so it makes more sense for her than getting a job in her field. Smart and educated people can have lower class jobs when the average starting salary for a non STEM degree is like $43k. Add to this the fact that MOST men would prefer the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:10 PM
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They know if they were to date and be successful it's only likely to be with these women (since they're considered less wanted than others) so they're mad they haven't lowered their standards. Half this sub would be happy to have a single mother that actually likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:46 PM
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Women have different tastes so if a single woman only likes 20% of men that doesn't mean all other women's 20% include all the same men. You're delusional if you think women like more than 20% of men. They like closer to 5-10% and that's being generous. How many women do you even know if you believe women like a majority of men and think they're relationship worthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:52 PM
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But my comment about that wasn't about average people at all. An average man who puts more effort into his career will receive more long term benefits than a woman focusing on her looks. You age out of looks well before you age out of a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:47 PM
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Feminists in the first wave didn't need to do that. Women not being able to vote spoke for itself. They did it, but didn't need to. And down the line it led to a bastardization of their goals where feminism is basically about penis envy more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:40 PM
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Okay so we have similar types. Everyone has your type of that's what it is bro you can't be serious. It's cool though, think you're unique because you think ScarJo and Meg the Stallion are sexy though. Have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:40 PM
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You're only seeing the physical difference as lifting. How about the fact a quarter of women suffer from anxiety vs about 10% of men? Or women being twice as likely to suffer from depression? Or women being 3 times as likely to be on antidepressants. Mentally women are not built the same as men. I mentioned athletics after the mood stuff for a reason. It's the least important physical difference. The most important is our reproductive systems and mental differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:38 PM
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Is she dating all of them herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:48 AM
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You're vastly overestimating the social benefits average women have. I'm talking about women attractive enough to get paid for literally being pretty and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:29 AM
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This thread says average man and woman. The average man doesn't kill himself. Also: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26954695/ Medication use was reported by 73% of participants. The most and least frequently used medications, respectively, were pain (69%) and musculoskeletal medications (1%). I'm sure other men in this thread that have had sexual relationships with women can tell you the same or other women here. You're out of your depth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:12 AM
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Ok and? And not all men are lonely failures. Some men see the responsibility of men in society and don't shy away from that gender role. Accepting your negatives in life is step one to improving your material conditions. Even the fight for equality starts with understanding the actual position you're in first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:32 AM
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You think technology has removed the male physical advantage. I don't. The male physical advantage is more than just being stronger, bigger, and faster. It's also being able to be more mentally stable and less emotional. I know people like to pretend men and women think the same but we really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:30 AM
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I mean that's easy to say as men, but many (most) of women's fears of men are based in their lack of physical capabilities compared to men. I'm willing to recognize I don't understand their POV completely and that I can't as a man. Same way they can't understand our POV completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:26 AM
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From the OP: Now I am talking about average Men and Women. Yes men at the bottom have it rougher than everyone else. This thread isn't about that, because if you acknowledge that you'll also have to acknowledge men at the top (the Elon Musks of the world and even the oh so elusive Chas tons of people around here like to talk about) have it better than everyone else. Men occupy the extremes more on both ends, no one will deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:01 AM
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I think it's because you need to believe that looks/height don't matter. Never said that. I said they matter along with presence. Height? Taller than the woman is good enough 90% of the time. Looks? Definitely a bigger deal and probably most important but if you're average you can get by. My point is basically she would never have put up with that (or continue dating me for awhile, despite my behavior) if she didn't have that opinion about my looks, in addition to being significantly taller than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:50 AM
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How many women have you been around on their periods? Mothers don't show it to their children. Any man that has had a bunch of women has had to keep ibuprofen in the house just because of how much pain some women are in during their periods sometimes and how they an just pop up unexpectedly due to sex. and those are usually the worst periods too. If you've never had a close woman in your life you have no idea of what they go through when that period comes so it seems like it's a breeze to you. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:45 AM
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Well I agree with your overall point, men win the biological battle 10/10 times. It's not significant which is why I think the biological thing is even worse on women. As a woman if you want kids you're limited to using the best years of your body to have kids. If you wait until after 37 you might never have one (so you have maybe a 25 year period to have a healthy child). As a man you have basically until 50 and even then you technically never stop producing sperm. The world's oldest dad on rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:00 AM
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Egg freezing is insanely expensive and not an option for 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:27 AM
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This isn't how you do that. No need for a comparison to women. Injustices facing men stand on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:22 AM
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Women have social advantages. Men have biological advantages. Sure no one cares about me outside of what I can do for them but I don't bleed for a week every month. I can be sure day to day my mood will stay the same. With enough work in the gym I can have fun playing sports and doing shit I personally like (I like playing basketball) at a decent enough level to not be a pariah. Growing up I was told how the world actually works instead of coddled so I could be prepared. Do I think the negatives…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:16 AM
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The empathy gap is real and statistically proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:10 AM
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That would go for 90% of men too. Well yes. Everyone has a type. That's what I already said. Being 5'5 though, obviously the vast majority of men are taller than me, so I don't think it's too strange that there's only been one. A whole 10% of men in America are 5'5" or shorter. 1 in every 10 men. You don't think it's odd you've just found one attractive in all your time on earth? You're so unattracted to them it's like they don't even exist to you, huh? Thanks for proving you have a type though.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:39 AM
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All these women have different features, of different physical types. You named a bunch of conventionally attractive 10/10s. They are all one type - stunning. They're all the same type. They're different races and different levels of thick but idk a single man that would turn any of those women down. Half the reason I watched Black Lightning was her cute ass. Lucy Liu is basically the only famous Asian woman I'd say I'm attracted to. I been calling ScarJo the #1 white girl since like 06. Like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:16 AM
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She actually is I've talked to her before lmao. He's a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:12 AM
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Why do you assume that you’ll have no authority and ALL the responsibility? Go look up the laws? This is true which is why any step father that didn't adopt the kid is in a bad situation. Beyond that you're right the other poster is just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:44 AM
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Found her type lmao. Skinny white dudes with big noses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:19 AM
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I have multiple types that I like. What tf does this mean? Explain it to me. You have one type. Your type. Idk what that encompasses but it's what you like. Wtf does it mean to have multiple types? Explain in plain English.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:15 AM
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If you mean physical type I dropped that link already. You've never slept with a man that was morbidly obese and shorter than you, right? You telling me you don't have a type though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:14 AM
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https://www.pnas.org/content/116/26/12793 Tell science. You're over here defining your type as men taller than you and thinking that doesn't count. Think critically for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:06 AM
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WTF are you talking about? You have A type. Your type might be broader or narrower but you're not giving everyone on earth a shot. Plus you're a man. You know like I know plenty of women you'd sleep with and date you'd never marry or have kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:05 AM
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Ok and do you think the amount of men she'd like on personality alone are over 15% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:04 AM
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Again it's a scientific fact that you have a type. What you call radically different men ain't that. You're not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:02 AM
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Nah. They call his behavior toxic anyway. Men that get women don't care about how women they're not sleeping with perceive them. For every woman that'd say I'm toxic another likes the fact I don't budge on issues. Stop caring about all women's opinions, how many of your opinions do they care about? The day I stopped caring about how women felt about my behavior is the day I started doing great. Do what's natural to you and if what's natural isn't being an outright POS she'll like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:56 PM
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Types change as life changes you that's true. Still everyone has a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:53 PM
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Also women swipe left on 95% of men on dating apps. If this was limited to apps it'd be the 95/5 rule. 80/20 seems generous if anything to me. Women don't notice 95+% of men they pass day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:36 PM
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You're factually wrong though. https://time.com/4057616/yes-you-really-do-have-a-type-science-says/ Say what you want, it's not true. You aren't self aware. That's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:28 PM
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Looks and presence. My youngest brother is taller than me, my dad, and my other brother, definitely the most attractive of us but he's constantly slouching, soft spoken, not very aggressive and he's the worst with women out of all of us. He's also a way younger than me and my other brother so hopefully he grows out of it but even things like my voice and how I talk (confidence) attract women. Joe Pesci probably pulled before he was famous and he's a short guy with a very squeaky voice but the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:17 PM
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Well it's a trollsite because I don't think many men will get bad results here at all. The #1 limiter if there's any limiter will be men with a racial preference or obesity preferences. I don't even think no kids is on the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:59 PM
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You've turned down men that approached you before. You're talking about being insistent, you're insistent on acting as if you're the one human without a type. It's ok. No one accepts everyone. Everyone has something they don't like. You refusing to pay attention to what it is you don't like doesn't mean you don't have preferences. That's just dumb. I find a lot of people like to just say "vibes" instead of actually critically thinking about anything nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:53 PM
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Y'all focus waaay too much on height. If you're taller than her 90% of the time that's enough. A man that's 5-6 and up complaining about height has other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:21 PM
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Because it's literally human nature. Just because you claim you have no requirements or nothing you're looking for doesn't make it even a little bit true. It just means you don't recognize what you like. Literally this is true for everybody. As far as race goes I've noticed all those races are likely to have straighter hair. That's a clear requirement. Like you said they all had dark hair and brown eyes that's a requirement. They're all able bodied men I'm guessing that's another one. No one is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:22 PM
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Nah she's just clearly lying. Everyone has things they like in people and all of her ex's have some things in common. Nothing bitter about recognizing people like certain traits in others and have a type. She's just never thought about it so she assumes she doesn't have a type. For example what race are all her exes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:46 PM
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She's regular self esteem for women. Actually most women wouldn't invite a man out of their league even if they approached him unless they were particularly horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:14 PM
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There's no logic to it lol. It's stupid. If a man doesn't like you he'll pump and dump whether you approach them or they approach you. If she didn't obviously hate men maybe she'd be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:50 PM
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You think men wanting to be 100% sure their kid is there's is hysterics? Why do you think most men wouldn't wife a promiscuous woman if they knew about it? Or do you think most men WOULD wife a promiscuous woman even with prior knowledge because in that case you're just wrong and apparently don't know men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:44 PM
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If a fish holds it's breath (gills?) they can technically drown in water... I think? It's like how some dishes die if they stop moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:38 PM
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Worth mentioning when she mad this quote she was dating a billionaire. He left her and her current fiance is worth $5 million instead of $8 billion like her ex boyfriend. TL:DR: if you don't mind settling down with a man you're more successful than it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:34 PM
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But the point is that whether they officially acknowledge it or not they're on the hook anyway. They can't just have the rules be different because you acknowledge you're the father or not - they don't care if you acknowledge you're the father anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:27 PM
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I'm guessing you don't want kids, or don't like women, or you've got some strange fetishes you might not have explored.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:18 PM
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*women don't care. Of course you don't y'all don't have to worry about raising another woman's kids unknowingly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:20 PM
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Doesn't France also outlaw paternity tests? This might be the reason why they're more lenient...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:17 PM
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I mean it's beyond just dumb. I agree with the respect thing. You might love her, but you don't respect her. Dumb is maybe flirting or getting a number to see if you can. If you're fucking other women you don't respect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:16 PM
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That doesn't matter unless they entertain it or seek the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:58 PM
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69.2% of married mothers work outside of the home. Go ahead and remove the 27% of married mothers that work part time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:39 PM
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The level of responsibility is offset with the level of gratification you get from children. It's not harder work than a job, and you're much more appreciated for it. There's a reason only 28% of women with children want to work and 71% of fathers wished they had more time with their kids. You people that hate being parents are the odd ones out. I never saw baby sitting my youngest brother or my baby cousin as a chore. Especially when they're really little and sleeping. Ages 1.5-3 it's a little …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:39 AM
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Not among married women with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:26 AM
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My dad used to give me dollars to go talk to women in the street when I was like 5-6. It's just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:07 PM
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I thought the point of expressing how not being able to show feelings was so that society would change and accept men's feelings. For some men it is and for some it isn't. I don't get what's toxic at all here though. I advocate for a society where as a black man I'm not discriminated against but I wouldn't be dumb enough to teach a black boy that he can get away with what his white friends can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:21 PM
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She's average at best in the face. I got a friend who's type is white women with giant noses though so you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:59 PM
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Here's something true, they call black men naturally RP due to our upbringing. I never needed to be introduced to these things either, but I recognize it's because I learned from my father and older men in the barbershop about the foul things women can do growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:42 PM
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You can believe that society should be a way while acknowledging it isn't. Men should be allowed to be emotional, but they aren't unless they want to deal with the fallout of being an emotional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:40 PM
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Yep. But guys don't realize that until later on usually and plenty of guys never learn that. Not everyone is lucky enough to have experiences with talkative women given how few women hit that category. In the dozen plus women I've slept with only two were vocal. Everyone else you gotta talk to them constantly to get any responses and a few of them were turned off be being vocal and explicit (and in the case of those few women I don't think they could ever have a great sex life).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:58 PM
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I rarely cum during sex. I still enjoy sex a lot. If sex is only about whether or not you personally cum you're a selfish lover and most likely terrible at sex. I enjoy myself whether or not I cum as long as the woman I'm with has a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:33 PM
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I was told I was too quiet before I realized how important verbal feedback was. I think plenty of women have to learn this lesson too. Most women do actually. Hell you ask most women if they came when you're iffy about it and the most common answer is idk which is an obvious no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:23 PM
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Women are more likely to moan and move around when you're doing something wrong than when you're doing it right. I find most women get really quiet and try to focus when they're close. It takes a while to learn that though because you'd assume loud noises and squirming = good and sitting still quietly = bad. Of course this isn't all women and it's the reason I tell all women I meet they need to be as vocal as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:21 PM
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and most men consider giving oral to be slightly unmanly (53%). This is a lie: https://www.psypost.org/2017/05/study-finds-straight-men-want-to-perform-oral-more-often-48939 Men like eating pussy. You're just wrong here. You can't find me a single scientific study showing me a majority of men don't eat pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:15 PM
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they don't Care in a way of trying to make effort. This is stupid. Who do you think puts more effort into sex? Women? Fuck outta here lmao. It's why so many women fake, not faking gets you dumped, not more effort. No women fake because most women would rather not be confrontational. Lesbians fake orgasms too. Your whole post is dumb as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:57 PM
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She doesn't have to say she hates penises to clearly hate penises. The fact that she sees sex as a tit for tat and not something you do to pleasure someone is enough for me to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:59 PM
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That's cool, but do you recognize this isn't true for most women? That most women can cum from PIV on top by grinding on their g spot? Women like you that derive no pleasure from PIV and seemingly hate penises are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:44 PM
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Lmao so don't complain men don't know what to do. I got lucky one of my first times having sex was with a vocal bisexual woman that actually explained to me what gets women off. Idiots like you are mad men don't read minds. OP here's your answer to the thread: it's because women don't tell men what works for them. Also I do tell women what to do to get me off. For example most women give shitty handjobs and blowjobs and no woman has ever made me cum from one. So I tell them flat out it's not goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:13 PM
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You can probably cum from penetrative sex if you got on top and did more of the work. Statistically speaking most women that orgasm from penetration do it on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:00 PM
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Statistically speaking the vast majority of men care. Seriously any time this has been studied the results say men genuinely care about whether or not they get their woman off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:58 PM
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But if he can't read my mind is he really the one? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:57 PM
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10% of women can't even orgasm while masterbating. Truth is a lot of women think of sex as something men are supposed to enjoy, so they don't ever fix their sex life. To add to that most women aren't very talkative in bed and starfishing is more common than women that actively work during sex. A lot of women have the "if he can't read my mind he's not the one" thing going on too. Way more common than you'd expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:55 PM
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My GF would 100% admit she competed but only because I've explicitly told her that's how she got me. Before then she'd just say she was doing what came natural to her but women are naturally competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:53 PM
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I'll make it a little on the thin side. My GF hates thicker drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:22 PM
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Imma make this thanks for the recipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:09 PM
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Doesn't help his kid any. There's no kid to even be helped when women have abortions. Again WTF are you talking about? Doesn't make a good father, which is the only thing demanded by people who start the argument in the first place. So let's not derail the core argument in the first place, please. What are you talking about? Go read the top level post here, you're the one trying to derail the conversation to be about good fathers. The other poster asked a simple question, who's to blame when a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:08 PM
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Boyfriends or ONS being shitty fathers is the one thing an abortion can't solve, to be honest. If they're not fathers in the first place the problem is solved. What are you talking about? Logically this makes zero sense. How often do you think men stick around for the first couple of years, only to bail and leave behind a mess far too late? That's actually what normally would happen. Why are women having children for men that are not their husbands? You think husbands are just up and leaving far…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:45 PM
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No one disagrees the man helped create the situation. It's her responsibility though. Abortions are accessible most places in the country for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:12 PM
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No man forced her to carry a child to term. Your body, your choice, your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:38 PM
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Usually women close to menopause. I'd say 40+, many men say 35+ but the age where you're rapidly starting to approach menopause is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:47 PM
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Men are mistaking committment for just treating someone with basic respect. What I'm saying is I don't see this in real life. Dudes I see that don't treat women with respect are very consistent with it. then they discard women. This is the part I disagree with. Most dudes I know are disrespectful off rip, women just don't care before sex as much as they do after when they want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:46 PM
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According to stats 52% of women remarry vs 64% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:27 PM
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Treating someone really well while saying "i dont want a relationship" and then treating them really bad after sex isn't being honest Treating them badly? In my experience most women want to step it up after sex and you gotta cut it off and move on. In the past I've split it off with at least 4 different women that thought I should take them more seriously because we had sex after I already told them I didn't want a relationship with them. I think your emotions are why you perceive his actions a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:06 PM
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Single men over age 40+ don't outnumber single women at age 40+ last I checked... Men are more likely to be married than women at that age. They can mess with the tons of young dudes, but they clearly aren't serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:37 PM
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No one says not wanted at all but when men that want kids without assistance is 80+% of men you're really narrowing the field of men past a certain age. You can still find it, but it's incredibly rare and the men in that don't want kids usually also don't want marriage. Now if they've had kids already and you don't mind a divorcee they're more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:53 PM
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Yeah men and women don't learn this usually until it's too late. Then they become PPD posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:21 PM
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Well sure, but if they're straight up with there intentions what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:02 PM
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I think you're in a strange place because in my experience divorced men and women usually struggle after the divorce. There's a reason divorcees vastly trail other groups of people in happiness polls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:59 PM
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Fertility is the biggest portion of why over the wall women aren't wanted but it's about finding a serious relationship/marriage. Most men want kids out of a marriage/serious relationship so over the wall women aren't an option based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:42 PM
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How many of them are remarried? Long term BF/GFs aren't considered as a successful goal here. At least not to men. If I can leave with no paperwork and no one moving their bed it's not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:40 PM
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Most women I know do not have a problem attracting They married?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:48 AM
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A toxic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:43 AM
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Yeah because you're a fucking nut lmao. I personally don't remind people to do the chores, I do them myself because I'm a grown ass man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:38 AM
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Most workers are in the service industry now. It's the one place you want to see humans 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:22 PM
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The baby boom was a really big deal worldwide for population growth and where we currently are. It's not talked about enough honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:40 PM
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People are childless due to a lack of resources too for the most part (at least lack of the ability to have kids and live comfortably) so if anything there should be more egalitarianism if people want to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:29 PM
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Tucker Carlson literally talks about the great replacement. A direct white nationalist talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:21 AM
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http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1190a1TrumpandCharlottesville.pdf www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf If I misremembered the stat it's actually 9% of Americans that agree with white nationalism not specifically being a neonazi or the kkk (that's in the first link). The neo-nazi stat I'm thinking of is the 2nd link which says 13% of Americans know a neo-nazi. But hard old school racists are very common de…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:31 PM
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8% of Americans according to polls literally approve of Neo Nazis and the KKK or have no opinion on them. 6% of the population is Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:52 PM
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It says a first date. Of course they're not really into you, they don't know you. If the walk goes well you escalate from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:22 AM
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Well that's why you fight to be in the 20% of whatever niche you're aiming for lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:09 AM
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Great accessories make the outfit. A watch, maybe a chain or ring in your case, nice shoes, and great glasses (if you wear them like me) go a super long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:02 PM
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Don't agree with that. Women will continue to be sexually attracted to a man that's good enough and masculine enough as long as they don't waiver. I think it's on women to test you from time to time but a man that's masculine enough will easily pass the random shit tests women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:59 PM
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Yeah this is pretty much it with those types of women. They like the dopamine rush of a new relationship, don't like the responsibility of one though and the fact it puts a burden of performance she can live up to or fail at. In the early stages usually sex is enough for most men and they would rather stick with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:34 PM
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Not to mention preparation should also have you giving off a unique aura. You should stand out from other men in the room. Like if there's a room of 50 men you want to be one of the 5 that get them thinking (from PUAs peacocking is the same principle). It's all unique to you as a person though because once your reputation/unique physical appearance does all the leg work it's as easy as just being you. You try hard before you ever see the woman so you can just relax when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:29 PM
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I'd say this describes me personally. And most men I know. Guys change a lot from ages 11-21 just to get women. Hopefully they find what works for them and get to the stage where they're getting high quality women because like you stated in the OP relationships are reflective of your standing in the dating market. Still it was a journey to get to this point and on that journey you're basically stuck dealing with the majority of young women out here that just don't know how to do relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:23 PM
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And I disagree with this because I think if you learn anything it should be positive things that will make your partner see you as treating them better than your exes. You just restated your argument like it changes mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:12 PM
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I think the younger me was stupid but not because I put more effort into relationships. If anything the younger me was stupid by not putting enough effort into women in the right ways and assuming that wasn't handicapping myself. Some people learn from mistakes. Some people learn things that were never issues were mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:26 PM
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The y'all is referring to the man you mentioned in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:25 PM
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People are legitimately happy and it has nothing to do with ignorance. Your ignorance about what you truly want in life and not any type of enlightenment on life is why you're miserable. If someone's life aligns with what they want out of life they will find peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:20 PM
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Not that I owe you an explanation but I do care about black lives. I care about the lives of black people who are murdered, which does not only include men. You just happen to only hear about black men. Look deeper. Black women are abused and killed by their partners at an alarming rate. If BLM was about violence in general you'd have a point here but it isn't so this is akin to the black on black crime argument. Like I said you don't truly support BLM or their goals, you support hijacking the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:15 PM
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isnt jerking off to someone the next biggest thing they can do next to actually having sex with them and arguable more „engaging“ than making a comment? I don't read minds do you? what i don’t want is him actively going out of his way to get aroused by a woman. What does this even mean? i still don’t see how its toxic if i never explicitly asked him not to watch porn. You're toxic because you want to control his sexuality. You've already admitted this is not about porn as much as it's about cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:54 PM
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That high effort was something you expect from "younger and stupid" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:52 PM
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my point is that ive done great over these 21 years. I wouldn't say anyone that's unhappy with where they are in life have done great. You've done great by the standards your parents placed on you, but that's meaningless if it's not what you really want to do. Yet i look over the edge and i don't like what i see. I'm glad i did it though, otherwise i would have never had a the sobering realization that their peak isn't worth it. See it's right here. "Their" peak. You're judging what your life sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:51 PM
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media brainwashed parents So women. Women raise about 30% of children solely and most women in couples still do a majority of the child rearing. According to time use surveys 70% of child raising is done by women. and schools/childcare facilities 13% of daycare workers are men and 11% of elementary school teachers are men. It's women that are teaching these boys for the most part and creating these issues. The only blame men share is that we allowed this to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:41 PM
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people that watch less porn are less occupied with sexual thoughts. No people watch less porn because they're less occupied with sexual thoughts. not wanting my bf to look at other women etc. these are just my personal boundaries. i am not and will never force anyone to follow them but i am also not forced to stay with anyone. Doesn't make it not toxic. I would never tell my GF not to see other men sexually, just not to comment on it out of respect and to not act on it. Of course she'll find oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:38 PM
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If being stupid is what you think makes people more cooperative and loving in relationships you have fucked up views about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:13 PM
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Let people complain about your complaints if that's really how you feel. Y'all aren't handicapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:09 PM
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he only reason I've "failed" is that i haven't even started. You've been living for 21 years. That's 21 years of either work ethic, opportunities, or luck affecting your life and how happy you are or aren't. And why is failed quoted when I never said or implied that? You can lecture me on my life in ten years. Who's lecturing you on anything? I literally just said whatever combination of luck/hard work/opportunities you had wasn't enough to make you happy. No part of that is judging you for "fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:04 PM
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many people can have sex without an emotional connection Bad sex maybe. I've never had a good time in bed and not thought about the person after the fact. IDK anyone who has. And sex is inherently about the connection. No matter how casual. You might not like the person you're having sex with but you're sharing the most intimate connection you possibly can with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:59 PM
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not liking it when ur boyfriend jerks off to another woman is not crazy. Lol and here you give up the game. So porn isn't the issue. Any masturbation unless it's to you is the issue? And you don't see this as toxic? u would not be happy if your gf told you how much she wants to fuck her coworker even if she isnt actually doing it Yeah but how is this at all comparable to watching porn or masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:57 PM
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So you'd have no issue with the man in the example?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:50 PM
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Well just because you expect your partners to not be able to pair well with you doesn't mean others agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:46 PM
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That's not it. The reality is just that society teaches people other things are a duty in marriage but teaches people explicitly sex isn't a duty. And this is a message that comes from women to women because women don't have sex drives equal to that of men. With it came the lie that male sexuality was determined by a toxic culture and not biology and that lie grew into what we have today. A country where most women have zero idea about male sexuality on any level and just assume men are brainwas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:43 PM
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If you think a movie is comparable to a real person he'll make an emotional connection with (on some level if the sex is good) that's on you brodie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:40 PM
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you don't know shit about me though, so don't talk about my work ethic or opportunities. I didn't talk about them other than to say whatever combination of luck, work ethic, and opportunities you had in life clearly weren't enough to satiate you and make you happy. Don't get your panties in a bunch because you refuse to believe happiness exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:39 PM
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The part where your selfish ass still interacts with men in the form of your clearly toxic relationship. You sound crazy to any third party here and I'm assuming you're still a teen given how immature you sound. That or a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:37 PM
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Women are the ones that beat it out of men in the first place. Hard to say that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:36 PM
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Being happy doesn't make your relationship not toxic. Tons of battered men and women are happy in their relationships. what does controlling one’s sexuality even mean?? You openly talk about being jealous of him watching porn. I assume you've told him this before. You also have no understanding of male sexuality. It's not a stretch to say his personal pleasure or enjoyment isn't at all a priority for you (again you calling yourself "selfish" like that's cute).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:35 PM
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Why is sex the only thing in a relationship where people act like its fucked up to have standards and live up to you duties? It's insane and very telling on how selfish these people are as lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:32 PM
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And beyond death and God, life itself is depressing. This is personal. If you ask me life is beautiful and I'm blessed to have the life I have now, a life that would've been unimaginable to my great grandparents. The bar for happiness for someone who doesn't realize just how pathetic our lives are is low. I'd say if you can't appreciate being able to eat, having comfortable shelter, having a natural life that ends at 70+, and having somebody in your life that cares about you that your standards …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:20 PM
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Woke left? Not many, but there's plenty of leftists here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:13 PM
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how is that manipulative at all were both really jealous people he understands me because he feels the same. So y'all are both toxic and terrible for relationships? Not the flex you thought it was lol. also im in a relationship with ONE man. not the entirety of the male gender. And you still hate his sexuality which is why you want to control it. You don't like men, being a toxic partner of one isn't proof otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:13 PM
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You're clearly not in a relationship you want to be in or you wouldn't be on here talking about men negatively. People in happy relationships generally have a positive look on the opposite gender and their sexuality. The most laid men have been statistically shown to be the most sex positive and egalitarian men for a reason. Just because you have the only man that'll accept your manipulation and toxicity doesn't mean you respect him for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:01 PM
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It doesn't make sense. You're just assuming men know better but women don't with what evidence exactly? If anything the relationship being conned out of a man is a much bigger deal with more long term implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:58 PM
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It's not something to "get" though. The same way men accept female sexuality to have access to women women need to accept male sexuality to have access to men. Of course men will never hold women to these standards so things will continue to perpetuate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:55 PM
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Asexuals can have sex. You need to go look up asexuality and what it is because I think you're mistaken here. He doesn't see relationships from a female perspective, he just has little to no sex drive like many women so his focus shifts to other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:53 PM
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Of course that's your dream situation. You dislike men and male sexuality and don't want to change your femcel mind on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:52 PM
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When did porn become a hobby? You don't "do" porn. You watch it to help you masterbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:51 PM
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You realize real life women have these features right? Porn didn't introduce the world to big titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:50 PM
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This is the opposite of reality. Porn lowers the male sex drive. If anything men without access to porn are more horny and unhinged sexually. Ever hear of post nut clarity? The male sex drive isn't like the female sex drive and it continually builds if it's not taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:47 PM
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Your BF is abnormal. He's some type of asexual man. Given that LGBT+ men are around 5% of us he's undeniably not a good representation of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:46 PM
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How is that the same as shaming someone for being single? It isn't but neither is this conversation so why are you mentioning this? The thread is about WGTOW and how they're just as miserable and nonsensical as MGTOW. You claim they aren't for a reason that's verifiably false. so when women say “they don’t need men” it is usually in reference to being able to support themselves. It's still false for most women (median earnings of women is like $35k and women own 2/3rds of the US debt while makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:44 PM
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Not necessarily. Their dream situation is usually to find a man that's damn near asexual because men like women and like feminine energy around them in certain forms. Tons of SBs don't have sex with their SDs for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:39 PM
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Women have sex with objects. Men have sex with women. If it was about seeing someone as an object men would commonly use fleshlights. It's more about bonding with women. And women for the most part inherently know this which is why women that don't orgasm during sex fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:35 PM
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And women see men as status symbols they want to force into a relationship instead of as sexual beings that have their own drives, ambitions, and motivating factors. Both sexes can possibly not see the other side as full humans. Statistically speaking it's way more common for women to feel this way about men than vice versa. For a real life example read this thread full of women that refuse to understand that men are just biologically different than women and judge women differently than men. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:33 PM
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Its something viewed across humanity too. Mother-son incest is frowned upon in all observed cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:29 PM
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But how common is it for men to never orgasm even by themselves vs women? How common is it for men to not know what their penis looks like vs women not knowing what their vagina looks like. He's totally right on the genital blindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:28 PM
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Ah the noble savage fallacy. FYI scientists disagree with this nonsense take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:25 PM
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I actually read radical feminist theory. But I said leftist theory not just radfem theory. Of course you've read radfem theory which is why you believe your nonsense and don't see how supporting gender critical radical feminism and BLM is inherently contradictory. Like you clearly hate men, you don't support BLM (a movement about ending police violence primarily against black men) in any way tangible way, shape, or form. Radical feminism basically has a long ass history of being completely smack…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:15 PM
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No he didn't. Nowhere in his post does he attribute feminist beliefs to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:09 PM
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Sure but from the outside looking in you don't know how it is being a parent. I'm just saying 85-90% of people become parents during their lifetimes. Most people will be happier with children and people like you are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:19 PM
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There isn't a natural human drive to reproduce Humans are the one thing on the planet not commonly wired to reproduce and continue to live in perpetuity. Totally believable. because every animal reproduces or tries to reproduce This isn't true. Homosexual animals are 100% a real thing and plenty of animals do not mate. The Panda is notorious for being almost extinct because they don't reproduce. but there are so many people who don't want children Not really. 89.6% of adults living on earth righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:17 PM
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But you gotta be stupid to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:09 PM
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and black people don't deserve rights Don't do that. BLM + gender critical radfem legit doesn't go together. Neither does pro BLM combined with pro nordic model. Stop learning leftist politics on twitter and read theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:06 PM
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You're completely mistaken if you think incels aren't full of self loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:02 PM
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Yes because women aren't in the mainstream daily talking about not needing men. We hear more about women that don't need men than we do men on father's day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:59 PM
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Nope. Both groups are dumb liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:52 PM
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She wants a family? She doesn't even need a man for that, she can buy sperm and not have to deal with any father figures wanting visitation rights. Women need to stop telling this lie. I know so many women my age that want kids and no husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:06 PM
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It accounts for $13k according to his post (surprisingly $13k is the yearly cost of a child, $12,980 to be exact).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:52 PM
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men could do it. "ohh, I'd totally let you take my spot, and I'll sacrifice my life instead of you, but I'm the only one who can take care of the kids; sorry, my hands are tied, nothing I can do" I love when women use this argument like most fathers wouldn't love more time with their kids. Oh no I wish I could slave away for a corporation that doesn't give a fuck about me instead of putting effort into someone that will love me more than anyone else on earth until the day I die, the humanity!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:51 PM
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40% of households if you count the 23% of households that are single mothers, sure but that's hardly relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:46 PM
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Yeah no one believes you as no one but you even claims to have this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:44 PM
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Plus women help raise the men to be strong enough to fight. A society only goes as far as their women's moral backing. The morality of the next generation will be primarily shaped by women, for good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:43 PM
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You want men to be honest and open with you but when they are you immediately tell them "no not like that" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:39 PM
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Not being as miserable as you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:35 PM
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But the main point here is that they're wrong because what they bring to the table isn't judged by what they want but instead by what men want. You can justify this however you want but do you get the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:34 PM
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61% of government benefits go to women. 39% to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:32 PM
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Oh they jump on the intercom to say that? Or they just randomly approach you to talk about how much muscular women (of which there's probably less than a handful at your gym - at my gym it's a whopping total of zero women I see in there that are muscular) turn them off? Be more believable if you're going to lie or exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:31 PM
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I literally don't care if it's high or low Which is the point. Women care more about the experience a high n count brings men than they do the n count and most women don't care about n count at all. Men are the ones who care about the chastity of their women while women generally assume all men are hoes anyway if they can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:29 PM
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and breadwinners at nearly similar rates. That nearly is doing a lot of work in your post lmao. Women are nearly breadwinners at similar rates if you want to include couples tumbling towards divorce because women like men that outearn them and if nearly means almost a 1:2 ratio (because only 38% of married couples have a woman outearning the man).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:25 PM
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Not even modeling or using the internet. A beautiful woman can become a waitress at a high end restaurant and easily earn $1000+ a week. My GF works part time (3-4 days a week) and makes at least $600 a week. She started wearing makeup and earns closer to $700-800 a week now. No way a beautiful young woman won't just become a server and earn that type of money off tips. When I went to college the Hooters in campus is where all the girls went to work and then Drake shouted it out in a song and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:01 PM
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If I was on a first date with a woman and she put way too much effort into it I'd be flattered but not thinking she'll make for a healthy relationship. People appreciate efforts they've earned from you. Anything else seems like it's for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:55 PM
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But also men tell women they shouldn't be too muscular Where? What man even has to say this? Like women aren't lifting in general and if they did 90% of them would still be dainty because women are naturally dainty. Sounds like you're saying shit women tell other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:04 PM
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Yes, you're talking about 20 year olds who are dating casually - I'm talking about 30+ who are marrying. 2 of the people I'm talking about are literally married already. Also just because of an age group doesn't mean men aren't trying to marry. Seems most people want to find a good relationship BEFORE they've lived half their lives who would've thought. Believe whatever you want, but as soon as you stop doubting my honesty the debate is over. But you did it all up and down your post to me? Yeah …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:50 PM
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Slim and healthy alone doesn't make you 10/10 and I don't think they're hypothetical. You might call a woman an 8/10 instead of a 10/10 but the main point remains that what makes a woman a 10/10 is being generally attractive to everyone. I don't think Gisselle Bundchen is very attractive really (her jaw is strong AF) but I recognize she's typically seen as a beauty and if she wasn't already a super model she'd get asked to model all the time. I think many men that don't associate with these type…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:11 PM
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I try not to make circular arguments and this is a circular argument. All types of men hold all types of beliefs. The reason he's hard to believe is that he has no actual backup for any of his arguments. He's just saying shit on repeat which to me is proof he doesn't actually believe what he's saying and if he does truly believe it it's based on nothing more than faith. But it is funny how much he's going around saying this crap. I wanna ask him if he has any kids, his answer to that will be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:04 PM
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Doubt it but I also don't think a woman is a 10/10 just because she's tall and blonde. If you do you'll probably think different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:01 PM
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Bisexuals are raised in the same culture we are raised in. Go ask bisexuals who they'll rather be in relationships with and women won't be the overwhelming majority of answers (men will be from both the women and men) so until that changes it seems to me like men are the better option in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:00 PM
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Since when are women outperforming? Last I checked more women are out of shape than ever before and financially it's not looking too good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:58 PM
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You're talking about old money, and I'm talking about how the world today. But when I mention younger guys in my age group we're too inexperienced? So what men are relevant for this if ages 25-35 (my age group) are off limits and ages 60-75 are off limits? Just men 36-50 in that small ass window? They set the standard for the conversation more than the majority? I understand making men in my age group not count (we're still young - I get that). I don't understand your "that's old money" mentalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:41 PM
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Rule #1: Long term relationships aren't real. Don't do them. If they're more than a 2 hour drive away and you've never seen them before assume they're married. Just keep that in your mind at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:16 PM
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No most guys aren't fuckboys. Most men with no options will marry a woman to have sex with her regularly. Just start thinking to yourself that every man that approaches you and the effort they're putting into the approach is based off nothing more than wanting to have sex with you. If he's putting a lot of effort in immediately chances are that effort isn't at all genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:13 PM
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According to your other posts you don't aim for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:10 PM
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Ding ding ding. It's a bullshit lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:08 PM
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Too many men and women learn toxic behaviors are acceptable in their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:06 PM
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Say this part louder. Like who are all these people wanting efforts from people on a first date when they don't already know you/haven't known you for a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:05 PM
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Yeah I was expecting them to mention that guy #1 was a womanizer and likely to cheat or something I think this thread is about women around here lying and saying they prefer low n count to high n count? I just feel like the "he is very sexually experienced" part is something he snuck in there for that reason. But yes OP we know women want high n count men. This isn't news to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:00 PM
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Can I pick neither? The first woman sounds cool, but she's dumb. I don't want babies with someone I'd find dumb and I wouldn't be able to tolerate them for long. Woman #2 sounds like she's cool but horrible for a relationship. Gun to head I'm choosing #1 because I see no reason to get with a woman I'm not having kids with and #2 sounds like kids aren't a priority or on the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:56 PM
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You've literally been proven statistically wrong in this very thread (CEOs marry teachers more than any other profession and that's a fact) but I'm the one that's ignorant and convinced I'm right. Totally. You know a real good trait of a leader? Probably the most important trait? Self-awareness. Read up on that a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:52 PM
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You'd be a horrible CEO. The best CEOs are ones that collect information from their leadership team and make informed choices based on their partners expertise. The best CEOs collect information to help make informed decisions to help them accomplish the goal they want to accomplish. They're not asking the team members to figure out what direction the company is headed. They have a vision and they are going to stick to it. Being a leader is the exact opposite of being some tyrant who's making ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:42 PM
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Do you understand that a CEO is anyone who runs a business (that's what they would mark on the census) and range is extremely variable? Millionaire CEOs are not marrying school teachers, I've encountered it maybe once or twice. Cool, and I've gone to one of the best private schools in the country (I used to do playdates with the Cuomos) and most of the moms of the kids I were in school with were SAHMs. A few were teachers. None had high powered jobs. So you're speaking both against my personal e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:29 PM
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When I was young I didn't want an LTR at all. Why would I? Why would anyone? You can be uncommitted and have just as much fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:14 PM
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Longterm planning, longterm thinking, commitment to a goal and vision But this is for accomplishing HER long term plans and commitment to her goals. I want to know about her commitment to MY vision and goals. I'll lead, she just has to follow. ability to take orders/follow instructions, ability to execute, dedication If she holds any job at all this is a given, isn't it? I don't see why you need a high powered career to prove you can do this. great communication skills, honesty, frankness What d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:13 PM
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I think people that don't want children need their own dating market. Leave the rest of us alone lol. A lot of these threads and absurd opinions being lobbed around in these spaces are by people that don't want kids so they have no real need to care about the well being of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:00 PM
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It's obviously an exaggeration when they say McDonalds (because the truth is a woman that good looking would work elsewhere after a talent scout found her on her 5th day working at McDonalds) but your post is just flat out wrong. Men with money don't give a single fuck about a woman's career and drive. Her intelligence is what they care about. The vast majority of men making 750K are not marrying / LTRing middle school teachers or even considering it. You realize the most common profession male …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:59 PM
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Absolutely false. You are asking someone to sign up for a lifelong commitment and put in a huge amount of work towards an uncertain future. If you are not prioritizing drive and goal-oriented people, you're setting yourself up for failure. How do career drive and career goals reflect the ability to work with me in a relationship? Like what skills required to be successful in your career makes you a better mother to my children? The intelligence regularly associated with that drive and ambition i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:38 PM
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Most men want women to have children with them so she'll be getting a significant chunk of their money anyway as chances are her career is dead or irrelevant after the baby. If you don't want kids as a HVM IDK why you'd get married at all. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:28 PM
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Here's the real question for you... What 10/10 woman is working at McDonalds?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:25 PM
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Also a 10/10 woman isn't working at McDonalds. Why would they? I know some very stupid 10/10s and they get modeling offers constantly. Just walking down the street a talent agent will pull them to the side and I don't live in NY or LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:22 PM
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It's all a trick question anyway because no 10/10 woman is working at McDonalds. If she's that stupid and unskilled she can literally earn more money just being pretty and showing up at parties or being a waitress. If you're a 9-10/10 woman the world is your oyster.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:20 PM
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Basically. And the advice would be the gender flipped version. Accept the nature of man (that the best you can ask for is a man that just won't act on his nature out of principle and respect for you) and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:18 PM
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You're a rarity. Most people aren't demisexual, especially men. If you want a demisexual man go search for one but be warned they're hard to find. I know a few demisexual women, never met a man like that in the hundreds of men I know. But for the most part your best chance is making sure you sexually please your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:15 PM
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Next thread: "Help I have a stalker that won't go away"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:12 PM
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I will guarantee she wants nothing to do with those men. They need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:10 PM
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IG is the 2nd biggest dating site out lol. I got friends that get women almost exclusively on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:57 PM
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Remove porn from that and you're correct. I think women overestimate how much porn the average sexless men watch. If anything dudes I know that do well with women were the former highschool porn fanatics (makes sense that dudes with higher sex drives would still pursue women in traditional ways on top of the new ways).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:56 PM
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The reason men feel bamboozled is women lying about the nature of women. If they didn't listen to women they wouldn't feel that way, so you're advocating for RP thought to spread more so guys don't feel taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:50 PM
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More people have college degrees than ever. This says nothing about ambition and drive. Women are able to do work with far fewer barriers and somewhat more even pay (though not nearly the same yet.) This is true but most women still don't earn nearly enough to cover their expenses. Women directly hold 2/3rd of all US debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:35 PM
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So you support RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:29 PM
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Nah not really. She's counting her chickens before they've hatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:14 AM
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Well maybe you went to a weird school because sexlessness is way up in young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:30 AM
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You lie about it? I was younger but I definitely lied before I lost my virginity and most guys I know did the same. A lot more socially acceptable to do at 18 than 34 but still...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:55 AM
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If you can't pull on Tinder you can't pull in real life either. But beyond that dude clearly has no confidence and that'll always be a major handicap. Women can smell the insecurity on him from a mile away. Confidence and authenticity is the #1 component of game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:50 AM
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Dudes have no standards to make it easy then get mad when it's not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:43 AM
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This is outdated. Highschools aren't like that anymore. My youngest brother and all of his friends have been single all through highschool. Not even a date. Same for my little cousin and all his friends (he still has 2 years to go). When I was little everyone had a girlfriend at some point, now it's totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:41 AM
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She can't brag about bagging him until she's sure she has him and that's how you're sure. A ring. Women think long term dating counts as actually having a man. It doesn't. Anything short of a ring and you're hoping he wants you like you think he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:36 AM
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Well the "troll post" was the first thing that came up when I looked for what FDS thinks a HVM is. Find me a non troll post and I'll correct it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:31 AM
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It's not PUA nonsense because at least PUA tries to give women what they think women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:23 AM
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Literally how is it any of your business outside of you not qualifying for a list by women you dont like I mean... The OP asked, I answered. Personally it's just funny to me seeing all this nonsense. FDS doesn't make me mad at all that's a fact. Male hubris will have you believe that a woman who cant pull a HVM owe her body and time to low value ones bc male delusion is a hell of a drug. If they shut up and stayed to themselves I wouldn't care. Same reason I don't like MGTOW guys. Like go your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:23 AM
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She claims she got commitment from an HVM. No ring means she's a long term GF until she gets it. That's not a W.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:16 AM
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Is the inverse misoygynistic when it comes from men? The misandrist part is calling men scrotes and thinking men have no value. If men call women out their names and think they have no value they're misogynists. Must be a virgin but fuck me like a porn star on the first date. Must be traditional but pay for the date. Must be submissive but also not make me be masucline or wear the pants. Must be honored to spend her life mommying me with no appreciation or respect in return. I've quite literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:52 AM
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There is a slight issue in that you’re only looking at the financial aspect of things, though. Kinda true but it's the only tangible thing FDS days to look for so it's the most easy to comment on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:30 AM
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Most def. Personally it's funny to me because they're misandrist. If they weren't I'd really find it sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:57 AM
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Lmao. Perfect for FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:11 AM
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I think the strategies women can employ are simple. If you can make a man feel manlier than he feels without you he'll keep you around. A HVM more than anything else lives for the gratification that comes with the status. The women that get these dudes use the tactics you'd identify as pick-me tactics. The difference is they aren't afraid to fail. It only takes one good man to put a ring on it. It is completely unattainable for many but in the modern day where many women think being beautiful ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:55 PM
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Here's what one of their dating coaches define as an HVM A HVM male makes no less than six figures per year and dedicates no less than 40% of his post-tax income towards financing your life. A HVM is there to serve and caretake for his queen. A HVM is at least 1-3 points better looking than his female. He is at least 6’ and works out a minimum of 3x a week. Men who are under a 8/10 are considered a LVM (low value male) with poor genes. A HVM commits without any expectation from his woman. He und…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:39 PM
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I had this conversation with someone here earlier this week. If you can find me one thread with women on FDS or one of the sister subs giving actionable advice (for example go to prominent RP channels like Fresh N Fit and I might hate them but they have real workout and financial advice) you'd be the first. I find y'all say this while openly knowing this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:35 PM
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The pick a struggle philosophy. One of the top things that defined PUA. If you're socially awkward at least don't be broke and ugly. If you're broke at least don't be ugly and socially awkward. If you're ugly at least don't be broke and socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:32 PM
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Here's the 5 traits of an HVM from FDS' lead dating coach given a few months ago: A HVM male makes no less than six figures per year and dedicates no less than 40% of his post-tax income towards financing your life. Aka a man in the top 10% of earners, and actually higher than that because they'll need to have enough money to spend 40% of it on you while still maintaining that lifestyle. A HVM is there to serve and caretake for his queen. A HVM is at least 1-3 points better looking than his fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:29 PM
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Yeah she's capping lmao. She's in a 2 year relationship with no engagement ring but she claims she used FDS tactics? Make it make sense. She's counting her W with no ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:21 PM
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Everyone that requires a date to get to know someone is a gold digger since that's all women's motivation to date. There's no other reason to value a date over meeting up at the park.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:21 PM
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Issue is anyone with a brain is running from someone that'll use sex as a weapon like that. You have to be super above and beyond outside of sex to keep a man's intention if he's got options at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:47 AM
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Check my response to the other poster that mentioned that sub. I don't see any actual career advice and tips there. The one tip I saw was discouraging women from entering a lucrative field because its male centric.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:44 AM
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Exactly so women need to vet. How does this make any sense? You: Women need to vet men because men aren't looking for anything serious. Me: Most men are looking for something serious, find wives, have kids, have families, and divorced men are likely to remarry. Men mostly want LTRs with women. Some (not most) women can't get these LTR minded men because they either aren't attracted to them or aren't suitable partners for an LTR so men don't see them as potential life long partners. You: Yes but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:47 PM
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A man could be with a woman for years on end and never truly love her You seem to think securing means playing house. Men aren't generally getting married and putting their assets on the line/starting families with women they don't like. You only feel securing men is easy because what you think securing a man is is not actually securing a man. And millennials still pair up they just do so later in life. Overwhelming Majority of people will have sex, romantic relationships, marry etc.. They pair …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:49 PM
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Manosphere is more than a decade old forum.The incel attacks have drawn public attention and most people now know about them. Very true. I don't support inceldom at all. I just recognize it's a very small part of the manosphere in general. A vocal part for sure because what they say is shocking but they're not a majority opinion. Meanwhile FDS is new and most women still don't even know about it.So obviously they have less contents compared to manosphere. But my point is the content they have is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:49 PM
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Not comparable. How does the previous oppression of women affect you any more than me? My grandmothers we're oppressed too. Let's talk about the life you live. How have you personally been affected negatively by sexism in your life. I have answers for this personally as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:40 AM
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this isnt something Ive experienced personally It never is. Women just tell lies on men and perpetuate it until it's fact to y'all. The few bummy men out here leeching off of women shouldn't define men the same way the bottom of women shouldn't define them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:47 AM
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With my experience dating men, I disagree. But you attract what you are. This says more about how bad of a potential partner you are than it says anything about men. Just like how if a man only meets women that want a relationship and not sex with him he's not sexually attractive and if he meets women that are gold diggers all the time he has little to offer but money. The fact you look at objective reality which shows you most men want LTRs and marriage and assume your dating life full of men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:46 AM
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Yes, men that are good for LTRs are rare when speaking of a woman's dating lifespan. They aren't. You just don't want or attract (idk which it was for you personally) those men. Most men are good guys for most women because most men and women are average by definition. The average dude is blue pilled, a mid level earner, handy around the house, reliable/dependable, doesn't cheat, etc. It is indeed very rare. This is my and many other womens perspective when it comes to seeking a long-term mate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:50 AM
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It says family. Usually that means kids, grandkids, spouses, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:05 AM
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It's not. You literally said: Stop applying your short-term dating strategies to women looking for rare,long-term partners. Which means you think men that are good for LTRs are RARE. Yes or no? I know what you said, now you can either admit you said and believe it or that you were trolling. Doesn't make a difference to me but understand this is what I'm arguing against. This type of nonsense. And trust me I say the same about men that think most women are like you. Y'all are the majority of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:03 AM
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It doesn't. It describes what most men want from YOU but that's a you problem lol. Most men get married. Most men in sexual relationships are in LTRs. They just wait for the woman they want to get married to/make their GF. If that's not you that's on you to improve to become that woman or to actually give an effort towards becoming that woman instead of assuming just being you (aka existing) is enough. Women that keep men they want wanting them for serious relationships understand this. The same…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:50 AM
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My bad and you're right. I meant mothers not married women mainly because the other poster mentioned wives doing all the childcare so I assumed she was arguing mothers do too much compared to fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:44 AM
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Bro why are you still here? Nothing you're saying is remotely true (IFS actually sourced that claim if you decided to look it up and I showed another poster that couldn't find it how he basically found data proving a majority of women don't work full time in marriages). Also the leisure time thing is a good dodge. That's for all men and all women. Not for married men and women. Also by focusing on leisure time and not time working you're doing what a lot of women do and counting time thinking as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:41 AM
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Nope but kids and spouses are definitely the family most likely to be around you and close to you. Other than that and you're hoping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:28 AM
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Not every man that is attracted to us wants to genuinely be with us But men that do aren't rare. You said they were. Don't talk around that like that wasn't the foundation of your point. You can't make a man genuinely like you Lmao. You right. People's actions towards you have nothing to do with how they feel about you. This is the most selfish shit from people that claim to value relationships. You legit think existing makes you a good wife. Will you stop projecting your poor experiences on me?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:25 AM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-real-housewives-of-america-dads-income-and-moms-work#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%2045%25%20of%20married,women%20to%20work%20full%2Dtime. This says 45% of married women work full time. I could also find that only 18% of married mothers are not working which is up by 6% in the last year This doesn't even sound believable lol. Plus let's look at your numbers: Only thing I could find was that in 45% of marriages only one spouse is working but that isn’t broken down by gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:08 PM
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Sounds like taking a financial hit to me, It's not. If it was married couples would be less wealthy and earn less than single families. though I’d like the citation just the same. Maybe don't cut the quote off halfway then? https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-real-housewives-of-america-dads-income-and-moms-work#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%2045%25%20of%20married,women%20to%20work%20full%2Dtime. 45% of married women work full time. Now according to those same polls only 25% of women want to work full-time…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:40 PM
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You're making a LOT of assumptions here, based on your own life. I'm not. I'm basing it on what I've had old people (people 60+) tell me. I'm not arrogant enough to think I know more about what's important in life than a 75 year old man that's living in the middle of bumfuck but happier than anyone I've ever met under the age of 45. If I was going off my personal happiness I'd tell people to center becoming the best versions of themselves and traveling and focusing on their careers so that at 40…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:24 PM
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That's totally off. What it says is more than anything else senior citizens think proximity to family makes them happiest. Whether they have kids or not. Relationships with people are more important than anything else in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:07 PM
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You're mixing some separate issues here. I'm not. You're acting as if a career can make up for the lack of a family life and it can't. You seem to have a low opinion of humanity I'm advocating for people to put family above their careers and I have the low opinion of humanity? in thinking that giving people too much freedom, or too much time to make decisions, leads to bad decisions. No I never said that. Where in my post do you see anything that leads you to this conclusion? I think what you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:35 PM
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Statistically speaking, you're wrong. According to a single study on data from 1973-1978? Here's what I found and I've seen the study before but the link is down so I'm trying to see if I can find it now: Data collected in the 2015 United States of Aging Survey revealed that being close to family members was the most important happiness factor among senior citizens. Proximity to family was listed as important in 53 percent of survey responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:29 PM
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Stop applying your short-term dating strategies to women looking for rare,long-term partners. They fact you think men that want long term relationships and families are rare is proof enough that you have zero ability to determine what's a good man. You know nothing about men. A short term strategy is raising your standards to the point where no one can possibly meet them and if someone does meet them not at all focusing on how to secure that man or make him like you (so like most good men he mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:21 PM
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Young women have higher anxiety,depression and suicide rate than older women. How are they the happiest group? Younger men have higher rates of these things too. That's mainly because more older people go undiagnosed than younger people and this newest generation glorifies suicide. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whats-happening-to-womens_b_289511 This is a well known phenomenon. As women's rights are increasing and as women age their happiness drops. And BTW middle aged men has the highest suici…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:08 PM
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By saying they can't possibly be attracted to the men they are with. This isn't what that means. If 80% of women chase 20% of men that means there's still 20% of women that'll be happy with the other men. By saying they are all the same and will act the same way. If I say all women are great and they act the same way is that vilifying them? Saying everyone is the same isn't inherently villifying. By saying they are used up and aren't actually into men if they are dating them in their 30s and wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:54 PM
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You’re only thinking about it in terms of rote income. I'm thinking in terms of everything. There is still a very persistent problem amongst males where as soon as they get into a relationship with a woman, they become a second child she needs to take care of. The lies. 55% of married women work part time or not at all. How come men don't commonly describe that as becoming a second child men need to take care of? Not only physically in terms of household maintenance How many women do you know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:47 PM
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Female level up strategy https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleLevelUpStrategy/top/ Not a single post giving actionable career advice. The one post about anything specifically career based is telling women to stay away from one of the most lucrative fields you can easily get into because "it gives LVM access to your time" through the workplace. This is the sub you're talking about? I'm talking places where you can go to find out (for example) what trades to specialize in, what degrees to aim for, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:25 PM
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As a father of a daughter, I refuse to push it. But who's pushing this to women? Like no one wants women to do this on any mass scale for you to be saying this unprovoked. What I see being pushed to women is, "get an education and a middling career that won't pay for that education, go into lots of debt, ignore family, and resign your life to being a member of the capitalist machine that will spit you out at 65 leaving you homeless for the next 20 years." Like for all the talk about career women…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:15 PM
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Who said anything about me caring about working? Well if you're not planning to pair with someone else you're going to be working a lot if you don't want to be homeless in old age. How old are you and what type of savings do you have? I just want to experience all the beauty in life that I can What about the beauty of childbirth and raising a family? It's cool that you want to be childfree, have fun with that. Understand that most people are not willingly childfree though and they won't be any h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:07 PM
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I hate when people cite this study because single and childless women are also younger and young women are by far the happiest group of people in the country. But as women age their happiness drops and past the age of 45 men are happier than women in general (while men under 30 are miserable by most metrics). Delayed gratification people!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:59 PM
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They were definitely not following red pill self improvement edicts but still, they seemed to represent a good chunk of that community. Oh really? https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/o5d6dj/just_having_a_small_amount_of_financial_success_i/ I legit just went there and this post is the only post on the first page fitting your description and most guys there are telling him hopefully he'll grow out of it. No one is encouraging this type of thought though. At least from what I've seen in the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:56 PM
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Now go look at who's happiest in old age post retirement. Most women have another quarter of their lives to live at 60. Statistics on that show family is everything and the #2 regret of people on their deathbed is that they worked too much. Capitalism has poisoned you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:47 PM
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Modern relationships should be based on want, not need This is why modern relationships don't last and no one wants to get into one. It sounds shitty. Children come way too early in many marriages. Disagree. What's the point in getting married and not having kids? Maybe you mean to say people get married too early? In that case I still wouldn't agree but it makes more sense. I think the real issue is that men don't properly vet their women for marriage. If they did they'd leave a lot of these wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:45 PM
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It's ok if they prefer it AND if they can afford to do it. What's more likely to happen is that they won't be able to afford it and society will shift to make sure there's not a bunch of homeless old ladies out here because society in general doesn't want to see women at the bottom like men that are alone and broke are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:42 PM
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Even if they can't do the later they can easily do the former But the latter is what matters. Anyone can stop having sex. That doesn't fix the issue they're trying to solve which is to get a HVM. Ngl they often act like misandrists.But teaching women to be focused on career,friends in case they can't find a quality guy instead of being in an unfulfilling relationship is a good thing. Are they really teaching this though? I know RP guys that give tons of financial and career advice. Do leading FD…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:41 PM
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For women vetting men and having high standards is way more important Nope. Being able to secure a man once he's attracted to you is important. Women think their standards being low is the issue, your value outside of sex being low is the actual issue. if women collectively raise their standards men will collectively rise to meet them If women collectively raised their standards people would just stop pairing. There's a reason why millennials are more single and more sexless than ever before. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:38 PM
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But this doesn't describe most men. If you constantly end up with commitment only from men that can't take care of themselves financially while you're in a world where men in general earn enough to take care of themselves you're usually the issue. TRP tells men to improve for women so no matter what it's net impact will be positive for women that want a man that's doing well for themselves. Men don't benefit at all from FDS. FDS is more similar to blackpilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:34 PM
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I didn't say they weren't hot. They're extremely hot. They're not beautiful. A porn star is usually at best a 6/10 with a 10/10 body. And the body is something almost anyone can achieve (there's porn stars of all builds) but it takes a lot of time in the gym. Pornstars are actually a great example of the fact that for many women the only thing stopping them from being able to get the type of men they want is physical fitness. Because no one can convince me Abella Danger without makeup on is over…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:34 PM
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Of course they aren't. Never said they were. Tons of marriages and LTR are just miserable or out of convenience too. Nothing is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:51 PM
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Most couples start by having great sex in the modern world A complete lie. Most men have never had great sex. Most guys I know are lucky if their GFs/wives care enough to even get them off regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:11 PM
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Nah. That's liking someone. I like plenty of people I don't have sex with I call them friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:04 PM
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A healthy sex life is probably the #1 determinant on whether or not a relationship is healthy. Sorry to tell you that, it's just true. If you and your partner aren't connecting in the bedroom chances are that transfers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:10 PM
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She doesn't have one but she don't realize it. Monogamous with no title? Yeah ok lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:05 PM
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Porn stars aren't beautiful by any means. The term too pretty for porn exists for a reason. They're in great physical shape, makeup does the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:36 AM
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I have a question for guys that are disagreeing with you take here... If you got jumped sold you make friends fight with you? Would your female friends? Like off rip a good male friend is much more close than a good female friend could ever be. That why women want men around them so much in the first place despite not being sexually attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:16 AM
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Meh. Plenty of women fall in the cool enough to hang out with but too crazy/toxic to ever want sexually zone. He's wrong. But if a man is putting you first as a friend and constantly bending to your whim he's most likely got romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:10 AM
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Yeah she knows what's happening. Women aren't stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:03 AM
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She said she has a crush on him and it's obvious to him. I'm willing to bet money she's flirting and basically cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:56 AM
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Your brain isn't wrong you're just mistaken on what love is and feels like because you brought into the Disney princess nonsense as a kid and think that's what real life is supposed to be like. Your FWB is clearly someone you love romantically. I've seen you post about it before and it's still baffling to see you not realize you're describing what love like like in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:47 AM
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Yeah there are emotionally stunted people that think there's supposed to be more to love. Like the love you have for friends and family isn't just as real as the love you have for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:44 AM
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That's not a crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:41 AM
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You caught the subtext of the argument everyone else seemed to miss. To them sex isn't part of a healthy relationship at all and the idea that sex is ok in the context of a relationship escapes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:37 AM
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I've literally never had sex with a woman that didn't want me to choke her. Not once. It's 100% for her pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:33 AM
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Great post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:09 AM
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At worst people are well intentioned and don't know how to get what they want to they engage in a few toxic behaviors. But actual bad actors are such a minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:56 PM
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But plenty of guys have left women because the sex wasn't frequent enough. It's literally the #1 complaint married men have on their relationships so it's something we vet for because it massively affects our happiness. You can be happy with no sex life, that's not true for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:54 PM
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I mean an extra 2-3 inches of shoulder is all you need if you're a 5'4" man like my friend is. That's a lot. It'll make you go from narrow to average built.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:58 PM
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Yeah. The real separation for a cute baby is whether or not they can be on TV or be models. I don't even see myself as that attractive but I was a runway model at like 3-6 years old. Actual models probably never grew out of the model phase (I went from modeling to awkward looking in a snap lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:31 PM
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Yeah she doesn't have that look at all. She looks like the scene girl with the big boobs all the nerds want but she only messes with the jocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:28 PM
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Zazie Beets is half German and Zoe Saldana is afro Latina, idk any black men shocked by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:28 PM
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I know a small framed man that went from 95 lbs freshman year of college to 165ish now a decade later (maxed at like 180 before covid shut the gyms down). He basically dedicated a decade of his life to his body and physical fitness but it can be done. I'd argue the effort it takes isn't worth it though and it can go away pretty fast (now he looks like a slightly above average build man because Covid erased a lot of his gains).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:26 PM
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It's better than MensLib but unfortunately pretty racist so you win some and you lose some. The racism doesn't pop up much but posters will randomly compare feminism to anti-racism and if you respond with any smart points they will immediately delete your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:54 PM
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If they were celibate how do you think all they wanted was sex? Or are they just not having sex (which is not celibacy).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:33 PM
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IIRC women do less housework alone and men do more, BUTTTTT (and this is a big one) women cohabitating with men are something like 3 times more likely than single women to work part time or not at all so in terms of overall work both in and outside the house cohabitating men do more and cohabitating women do less (because cohabitating men work more than men that live alone). In my experience the biggest missing link in the chore conversation is most women underestimate how much their husbands/BF…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:18 PM
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Well this is why I tell guys don't ask women on multiple dates in a row. If I initiate the first date and pay I refuse to initiate the second date. But you did a good job in explaining why this is not a win/win contradicting yourself. Basically if a man has to pay you're not interested. A prostitute would've been a better investment because at least she fakes her attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:01 PM
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Ok... You forgot to mention that the median man still outearns the median woman despite having a lower IQ. Not to mention IQ does a shit job at measuring intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:59 PM
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Being book smart doesn't make you intelligent. There's tons off people that are brilliant in a field and dumb as a box of rocks. I've worked with PhD Computer Scientists with zero idea of how to do anything they never studied before and this is a field where thinking outside the box is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:34 PM
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So I'm guessing none of those men are married?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:32 PM
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There's a difference, I'd argue women have no idea of what that difference is, how to spot it, etc. and just assume any man that wants sex wants only sex which immediately closes the 90% of non virgin women that are dating from the top level of men. Sex is a viral part of any relationship so any man with two working brain cells and options is going to make sure he's sexually wanted before moving on. Unless of course she's a virgin, in which case plenty of men (not all) are willing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:06 PM
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They were very interested in eventually hopefully marrying me. I'm sure they wanted to never have sex with their wives right? I'm surprised you haven't met at least some women who are similar to me in this way. I have and I tell them they're stupid for thinking there's a type of man (other than asexual or closeted) that doesn't want to sleep with them. I've had so many women claim they thought all I wanted was sex when it was t true just because I wanted sex. Women act like sex isn't part of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:00 PM
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The part where you insinuate the man is the smaller company. For most guys this works. Any man women actually want will laugh at you. There's nothing more attractive than self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:58 PM
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All men are pursuing sex anyway. I understand that's the female side but it's mostly nonsense when you apply any critical thought to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:52 PM
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Sure plenty of women don't do OLD, but it's not like there's a specific personality type off OLD unless judgemental is a personality type now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:43 PM
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Don't listen to PPD they're out of touch. You already know that. A plurality of relationships are started online today. IDK any men that limit themselves to not using OLD sites. Why would you? The women there are the same women everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:36 PM
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Nope, as a virgin woman I've had multiple men change their minds after initial interest. That's because they're not having sex with you. If they were able to take your virginity they wouldn't have lost interest. Men appreciate virgins that want to have sex with them. Not virgins that date them with no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:05 PM
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Ok... You literally explained why geniuses don't matter to the median, are you ok? Again men work harder do they earn more. Being more likely to be a genius doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:04 PM
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In this case everyone is a hypocrite. Personally I feel you shouldn't be looking for yourself in a relationship because that's strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:57 PM
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Choosing to be a slut is a conscious choice people make, expecting your partner to not partake in the same fun activities you yourself like to do is hypocritical. Only if your partner cares about it like you do. This is the point I'm making. If your partner would rather have someone experienced, you'd be wrong to not gain that experience. Regardless of what you personally believe most women would prefer an experienced partner to one that isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:21 PM
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Not true, i'm sure you have heard of the dolt of a son who got a high paying job because of daddy You have almost no chance of being born that person. 7% of children born in the bottom two income quintiles move into the top quintile. For those people and the 11% in the middle quintile that move into the top hard work is a requirement. You need hard work, good planning, and some luck. All three. and you don't have to work as hard when things are handed to you. I think we have a habit of focusing …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:16 PM
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I'd rather find out what works, not guess around what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:06 PM
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You still haven't explained why. Is it hypocritical I expect my GF to be feminine even though I'm not and she expects me to be masculine even though she's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:05 PM
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and men have far more geniuses. This wouldn't matter if looking at the median. It's that men work harder. Not that we're smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:04 PM
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No I’m saying most men don’t care for virgins, and the reason why is because their lack of intimacy, experience, and clinginess. Literally what I said. Men don't want the types of women that are virgins, but they'd prefer the girls they like were virgins. I haven’t heard a man say he wants a virgin since highschool. So the men you know say they'd want a woman they marry to be sexually experienced? IDK any men that want experienced women for anything but a fun time. As far as waiting goes, if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:26 PM
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Explain? Do you believe women care as much about n count as men do? If you don't how does my example not apply? You live life to be a good partner to whoever you find, not to be what you want in a partner. What you want in a partner is not necessarily what that partner would want in you and you're not hypocritical for holding yourself to the standard THEY would want and holding them to the standard YOU would want. If women generally wanted men with low n counts men would keep their n counts low.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:16 PM
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Women claim that but chase men with higher n counts so I don't give a damn about the claims. On average a married man has more sexual partners than an unmarried man but a married woman has less sexual partners than an unmarried woman. There's a reason overweight women have more lifetime sexual partners than women that aren't overweight (men have the reverse correlation).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:43 PM
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https://bold.expert/the-fluctuation-of-iq/#:~:text=However%2C%20individual%20IQ%20scores%20actually,no%20longer%20be%20the%20case. IQ changes a lot as you age and develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:37 PM
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I scored a 135 or something absurd like that on an IQ test in elementary school that I took to get a scholarship. No way I'm anywhere near approaching that as an adult. I also went to some of the most elite private schools in the nation back then and when we moved to the south I went to public schools after. The idea that intelligence is genetic and not learned just doesn't make sense to me given all the data I've seen shows money makes it easier to be more intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:36 PM
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Yeah exactly. I know a shit ton of stupid people with a lot of degrees. Having a PhD says nothing about your intelligence. It only speaks to your dedication to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:30 PM
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Honestly. Like I might not have ever been described that way but fuckboy basically means "he's a man that gets what he wants from women." Like thanks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:28 PM
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Not really, there are plenty of hard working people out there who earn not a lot. Of course but there's basically no shot at all of being high earning if you're not hard working. Working both smart and hard is basically the only way to be successful. It's no guarantee but it's the bare minimum needed (luck is another key factor). That inequality is driven by other factors. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:27 PM
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But on an individual level, someone’s n count does not say whether they themselves are a cheater. Someone with a low n count can still cheat. N count is not some kind of guarantee about being the father of children. Find another past factor as heavily correlated with cheating than previous sexual partners. Nothing is 100% at all. But n count is by far the best predictor we have. Because then it’s also a cheater wanting someone loyal. This doesn't compute. Someone knows what they're going to allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:25 PM
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Well I can say I have honestly never seen that, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a bunch of people with that shared experience. For the other 99.9% of us we understand virgins are seen as pure and virginity of women is seen as a virtue. The easiest way to introduce a female character as a pure character is to make her a virgin. The easiest way to introduce her as a villain is to make her promiscuous. This has been shown in western media since forever. Think of all the Disney princesses …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:21 PM
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You never heard the term fuckboy? I see that used as an insult all the time. No man sees the term fucktoy as insulting though. It was women's attempt at slut shaming men but it fell short because they're calling the men they clearly want fuckboys. I remember the Jonas Brothers having purity rings and a large teen girl fan base. I'm a grown ass man why would I give 2 shits about a boy band marketed towards literal children. Because I slut/fuckboy shaming as more common. I really can’t remember th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:19 PM
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Effort is a way better predictor though because 99% of people don't fall 3 standard deviations from the average intelligence but there's still massive wealth inequality when removing the super intelligent people that rose to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:16 PM
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... Men wanting to have sex with you tried to shame you into having sex with them? Well no duh men do anything for sex. They shame sluts to get sex too. Again you're conflating a lot of things here. Getting shamed for not having sex with a particular man isn't getting shamed for being a virgin. If you found one man, liked him, had sex with him, and he found out after the fact you were a virgin he'd look at you as better than before he knew. That's just the reality of the situation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:14 PM
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Do you at least acknowledge that a significant minority of low N women want absolutely nothing to do with high N male sluts? Yeah. Can you acknowledge no one cares about them because they're a significant minority like you said? So a woman who is low N shouldn't want to have a low N man? A man who is low N shouldn't want to have a low N woman? You can want what you want. I'm saying what they should expect. An attractive chaste woman is rare and highly valued. A high earning man is rare and highl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:11 PM
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Because its about the top end not about averages. Why? Because that supports your hypothesis and focusing on literally anything but CEOs destroys your hypothesis? Give me the logical reasoning why only jobs at the top would matter if median men also outearn median women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:02 PM
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I don’t think this is true at all based on my observations. Most of my friends are guys and they don’t want to marry virgins. They don't want to marry the women that are virgins because most women that are virgins are religious. They'd be happy if the woman they liked was a virgin though. Virgin women prefer virgin men But they don't care too much anyway. Wealthy men prefer women with the ability to make money if needed but they don't care if she does. Also 1-3 partners means virgin to barely no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:00 PM
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Because I didn't see that in college at all in any forms so I don't agree it happens there. The only people shaming girls for being virgins in college are other college aged girls that feel harshly judged for being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:54 PM
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The bulk of men would NOT prefer virgins, especially after a certain age. I know this is immediately about to get in disingenuous territory. Most men find themselves being validated by the desire of their partners, and you will not be getting this from someone who is 25 and a virgin. So what you really mean to say is most men would not like a woman that doesn't have sex with them. The reason men wouldn't want to be in the situation you're describing is that she's not having sex with him. If a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:48 PM
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Not so much when it happens by many boys and girls, throughout 11th and 12th grade Most 11th and 12th graders are virgins themselves. I assumed we weren't talking about insecure children that lie on their own body counts. I don't judge anything off children, children are mean and cruel all the time. People holding on to teenaged bitterness are missing the forest for the trees. You seem to think it is just one loser when it's a whole lot more than that. High schoolers literally make fun of everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:41 PM
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Median women doesn't work full time. So men outearn women because they work harder than women? I agree, why did you say intelligence explained the gap 2 posts ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:27 PM
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IDK. My college is in the middle of downtown in a city known for their strip clubs, bachelor life, and nightlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:24 PM
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That still doesn't have anything to do with saying a behavior is good for you but bad for your partner. First off idk anyone saying sleeping around is good for them. I know people that think it doesn't matter for them and it doesn't. Women don't care about that and women are judges that create the standards for men. On the other side men create the standard we used to judge women. If men and women by virtue of their sexual organs and roles have different standards then it makes sense a man would…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:23 PM
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My point is don't say that women aren't negatively judged for being virgins, because we are. If someone says you're not discriminated against because you're white and you mention this one time a Mexican man refused to serve you at a single restaurant as an example otherwise most people will rightfully point out one person doesn't not represent society at large. Calling a woman a virgin (for example) isn't an insult. It's a common insult to call men virgins. That's what virgin shaming looks like.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:05 PM
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they'll be far more insightful than the ones on here. Older single women are a terrible source of insight. They couldn't get a man for themselves, why would you ask them anything about relationships unless you wanted to know how not to find one. Any dude struggling needs to talk to older, experienced men. Either men that get a lot of women if that's what you want or men in happy relationships. Single passed over women have nothing for you (actually places like FDS are mostly single passed over w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:53 PM
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I say again this sub makes zero sense because most of the women here aren't from the US and don't deal with US culture. People just speaking past each other here. In the west there's tons of insults to men and 75% of them have to do with being a virgin. Of you want to insult a woman you call her a slut if you want to insult a man you call him an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:49 PM
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Women have a higher average and median IQ than men, so why doesn't the median (not average) woman outearn the median man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:44 PM
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Dude, no. I'm willing to believe you haven't personally seen anyone mocking or being condescending to a virgin woman, that's fine. I've seen people being condescending to literally any and every type of person ever for any type of thing. I've seen people be condescending to other people because they did community service regularly. This isn't a standard by which I judge things and I'm thinking because you have a personal stake here you're unaware of your bias. If you weren't a virgin you would'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:41 PM
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Lol why are you bringing up biological impossibilities? Here's another biological impossibility. Men can't carry children to term and women can. As such men are vastly more concerned with women being chaste than women are with men. I mean you have zero doubts that any kid you could possibly have will be yours. On the other end of things you can get pregnant and be that vulnerable and he can't. So you'll want a man that can financially support and protect you while most men don't care about those…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:36 PM
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Nah it's the college I went to. Kinda known for that (tons of rappers rap about messing with girls at the school).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:35 PM
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N count says nothing at all about who the father of children are, people with previous boyfriends can be loyal and virgins can cheat. High n count men and women cheat more. This sentence isn't accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:24 PM
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You do realize how weird this sounds, right? Do you think that all wealthy men work 9am-5pm and all wealthy women work 5pm-9am so they never see each other? No. Both wealth men and women mostly work 24/7 and aren't constrained to any hours. So they might have time for each other but they might not. CEOs work an average of 62.5 hours a week. If they take Sunday off that's 10.5 hours a day. Two people working those types of hours have no time for a healthy relationship. Most wealthy husbands have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:16 PM
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Virgin women aren't looked down on by any stretch of the imagination. They're held up for their virtue if anything and looked at as the ultimate goal by plenty of men. I personally wouldn't sleep with a virgin, but I'm the only man I personally know that feels the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:10 PM
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Every decent looking girl at my college was on the pole or a SB for a while. Other than the girls that had BFs they came to campus with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:09 PM
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It is saying you're allowed to do something your partner is not allowed to. My GF can carry a child for 9 months and I will ask her to do that at some point if we're lucky. Am I a hypocrite for it? She likes going out on dates and I don't, is she a hypocrite for expecting me to take her out on dates even though she doesn't take me out (keep in mind I don't like dates)? Like come on now. Men and women don't have the same standards and requirements for each other at all. You're pretending men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:06 PM
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I've literally never heard a woman off PPD that cared even a little bit about a man's count. Most women (even virgins) go after men with high counts. The last girl I dated that was inexperienced (literally had sex with one guy before me and she was a late bloomer) came at me the hardest if anything. I find those girls try to lock you down when they find out you've slept around a bit. Maybe you assume all low n girls are the shy type? Tons aren't, they're just picky about men and only want the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:04 PM
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Exactly. It's not hypocritical and it's insane to assume that even though male and female sexuality is vastly different both genders should look for the same things in their partners. We're not the same. It's not hypocritical for a woman to want a man taller than her with better grip. It's not hypocritical for a man to want someone that can birth children when he can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:01 PM
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I'd suggest you read some more of female sexuality, it would help you a lot. Not really? Female sexuality is so vastly different from woman to woman it's impossible to study the sexuality of women. Judge people off actions, if she wants you to jump through hoops she doesn't like you. If she has sex with you because she wants to you're good. I've met plenty of people with terrible relationships held together by sex. I think the issue is that you're thinking of it through the perspective of a thir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:55 PM
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No one is too busy to have sex. It's not like it takes hours of your time and most of these people sleep in the same bed together (1/4th of married people don't share beds and they're usually the worst off couples). This stuff happens, but not everyone is doomed to a dead bedroom. I think healthy communication is essential to ensuring you and your partner are still emotionally engaged and intimate. Fuck communication it has everything to do with whether or not your wife wants to have sex with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:51 PM
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That's you, but the average married couple has sex 1.3 times a week. I'd wager at least a third of relationships are what I'd personally call a dead bedroom (less than once a week).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:47 PM
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Do you think mainstream means a majority use it? If 17% of people have found LTRs online I'd consider that mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:15 AM
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They didn't say they're incels. They said they're starting to move online and not approach in person because tons of women are hostile in person. Online you know they're willing to date theoretically at least. As such women have to approach more. Only natural. Personally I think you shouldn't limit your exposure to women. Approach at all times. Most women are cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:29 PM
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I don't belief that there are men who haven't done it once online. Well you have shit for brains so who cares about what you think? And I'd tell you that in person too. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:21 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/06/10-facts-about-americans-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:19 PM
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Yep. Whether it's online or in real life I've gotten pretty consistent levels of attention. It's easy for guys too scared to do anything in purpose to pretend it's just the app though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:17 PM
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Who hasn't done it. The same men that wouldn't do it in person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:28 PM
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There's nothing more NPC than calling other autonomous humans NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:25 PM
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Lmao... You totally seen like an approachable person. Just delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:22 PM
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And when they are single it doesn't mean they got into their hobby to get approached by men faking hobbies to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:19 PM
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Men are more content with being single in the sense they want to get laid without the hassle of women demanding anything in return. Getting laid isn't worth losing your freedom. If the only thing when are bringing into a relationship is used vagina guys will keep trying to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:17 PM
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I think it's the opposite and people pretend OLD isn't real because they fall at OLD and assume that wouldn't carry on into their personal lives. Ask any men that get a ton of women if they use apps to get women. Every single person will say of course
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:07 PM
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You're wrong. A plurality of relationships are formed online. I've never met someone under 30 that was single and didn't try an app. It's just as valuable a source as anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:01 PM
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Your question is off topic. I'm saying average women are asking for more than average men and they aren't suited for it so they should be looking at average men if they want to get paired up. IDK how your question relates to this concept at all and I'm not really interested with going off topic. You somehow turned this into a conversation about you and your personal standards and what you personally want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:43 AM
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Yes because every conversation ever had on the subreddit is about you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:27 AM
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Lets not act obtuse here. Many as in the majority. How many men do you know in REAL LIFE don't want a fat girl but aren't exactly in shape themselves? Literally zero lmao. Every dude I know that's big likes his women BBW or doesn't mind it. Hell I know skinny dudes that stay with BBW women. I don't do it myself, but I live in the south it's common. Especially with big dudes. Men don't leave relationships as commonly as women because truthfully, men are happier in relationships than women because…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:20 AM
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It's such a commonly cited study around here I got lazy tbh lol. But the okcupid study and the 80/20 rule are basically known around here already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:09 AM
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Literally never heard that but I'm sure you're rephrasing some other concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:08 AM
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In contrast, the happiest older couples I know never had children and have been to almost every country in the world. Everyone isn't child free. If that's the life you want enjoy that, understand most people would not enjoy that though. My point is that I don't know anyone offline, men or women, who think in terms of "levels." You either meet someone's standards, or you don't. .... Levels and standards are the same exact thing. Someone not to your standards is not on your level. It's literally j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:58 AM
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They're not cheating first off. Their wives definitely know they sleep with other women. And only Musk initiated his divorce. Gates and Bezos got left.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:53 AM
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This is an awful analogy. Every woman isn't the same. Then let's say 70% of the time you leave the house you step in gum. That's a more accurate analogy. Either way it becomes expected. Some are more traditonal than others. Some are progressive, some not. With that said, it doesn't make sense, assuming you're a rational thinking man, to expect to always pay just because society expects to you when every woman has different values. You just start to toil on the line of being cynical. Well me pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:46 AM
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Well I know for me personally when I speak I'm speaking on America because that's where I live and that's the society I know. A lot of posters here end up talking past one another because the vast majority of non RP people on this sub are not American.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:34 AM
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But RP is a set of teachings. This is like the whole are you a Christian if you don't xxx line of thought basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:32 AM
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Image. Wrong answer. Family and legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:31 AM
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They absolutely are. Many will tell you they want a beautiful and slim woman despite being the complete opposite How many is many? Give me a number? Your best guess? If it's anything under 5% of men what exactly are we even talking about here? If you think it's over 5% of men why? I don't know anyone who encounters these men in real life. Your comments continue to prove my point that there a common theme of "women bad, men good" in these groups because for the past 3 hours you've just been going…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:30 AM
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and vetting had to do with community reputation, yet today we are rootless strangers, and anyone can pretend to be whomever they like. That's why family is important. You're right most people aren't beholden to a community, but most people are still beholden to family. If the family and her friends like you that says a lot about how she speaks about you when you are not around. Remember their impression of you is directly correlated to her perception of you. In a time where the general public wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:08 AM
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I wish they would discuss the still-existent normalcy in romance... Ooh this is a good mention for PPD. Like at the end of the day bad actors get bad results but most people find what they're looking for to a good enough degree to be happy. There's threads on here all the time about approaching women and when and how to do it and I'm just screaming like this isn't an issue in real life. Approach women every and anywhere, and if you're respectful you won't regret it. Too much theory and not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:00 AM
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I define redpiller as someone who participates in RP spaces and holds belief of RP theories. I would define it as someone that practices RP teachings, but I guess your standard works too. At least from the standpoint of guilt by association you have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:54 AM
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Well that's why you look for someone that values marriage correctly. Hard to find in the US in 2021 but it's still possible. Look at her family. If every woman is married that's usually a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:52 AM
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Because people on TRP on Reddit (an American site primarily) were tired of hearing women say NAWALT and they decided to antagonize them. I don't see AWALT as actual RP thought though. It's a very reddit thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:39 AM
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The book sold 10 million copies lol. There's no overestimating that. The movie made $205 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:25 AM
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Plus most men earning that much that young aren't wasting that money or much of their time with women. You don't get to that level tricking off your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:11 AM
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sex is not considered defiling or damaging to women in the west. To women, yes. To men (aka the only opinions that matter on the topic)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:09 AM
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I guess I can see that being a thing. Honestly most of the dudes here talking that nonsense aren't even really RP. Like can you be RP if you get no women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:05 AM
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I mean in the context of other cultures these debates make little to no sex and RP thought is inherently based on observations a few men made about American women specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:04 AM
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First off...attacking me doesn't help your cause Attacking you? Calling you out for lying is attacking you now? Don't lie if you don't want me calling you a liar it's really that simple. How is that an issue? Anyone who would do that for a relationship is an idiot. This is how you personally feel. As someone that thinks life is about people and relationships and not being hedonist I think people that feel the way you do are very selfish and ultimately what's going to doom the planet. Call it stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:03 AM
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The whole point of TRP is getting enthusiastic consent lol. Act like you don't hear these grifters in RP spaces always taking about "burning desire". It's actually one of the funniest RP tropes if you ask me because any man that sleeps around like RP gurus claim to know damn well plenty of the women they've slept with didn't have burning desire for them. But not once have I seen RP men say they want anything less than a woman that wants to willingly bust it side open for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:36 AM
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I'd agree but this is reddit.com not reddit.eu so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:34 AM
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Anything worth having in life comes with a significant risk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:34 AM
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Well of course I would want a man to earn enough to pay for his half of expenses. Lmao so you're here arguing women don't care but you personally do? Yeah ight... Also his half of the expenses? If he can afford his own life he can afford his expenses. The issue here is women unlike men are not willing to lower their personal standard of life for a relationship. Idk any man that thinks this way about relationships at all. What I don't get is why men will take on women as financially dependent par…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:10 AM
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Ehhh... I don't think there's much to be said on those things lol. Hard to have a discussion sub discussing things everyone agrees with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:56 AM
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Well, I haven't seen that poll but assuming its real, look at the numbers. 56% and 59% are not that far off. I'm pointing that out because many men are fine with paying most of the bills or else those numbers would be much lower and the splitting one would be more higher. Men are fine with it because it's generally expected for them. If you know every day you stepped outside you'd step in gum every single day at a certain point you'd come to expect it. That has no bearing on whether or not you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:52 AM
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In my experience, albeit limited, this is largely due to the man's inability to accept a woman making more money than he does. And in my experience women openly disrespect men that make less than them in relationships. Hell most women disrespect men making more than them too. All we can say for a fact is those relationships don't work out, most women will openly say they want a man at least earning as much as them (even nowadays), and the average man doesn't give a damn about what a woman earns …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:35 AM
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What type of discussion about gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:18 AM
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Most families don't divorce even nowadays. If you find the right one you can make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:17 AM
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Men are the ones who created this expectation though. Source? Let's take it allll the way back to medivial times where kings had several wives as a status symbol and every woman in the village was told they should go for a king. So let me get this theory correct now. Your proposing a version of history where most men agreed to a system that benefitted no one but women, children, and the few wealthy men while being built quite literally on the death and expendability of average men? You look at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:16 AM
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There was a trending thread over on r/tinder today that asked women, "Who should pay on the first date" and the vast majority of women said they would be okay with splitting it. Unfortunately that's not a scientific poll. Scientific polls find 77% of Americans think men should pay the bill on dates. 56 percent men and 59 percent of women say men pay for most date nights in their current relationship, with 41 percent of both genders say they split the bill on dates. No matter how you break it dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:57 AM
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Other men tell other men what they need to be, how they should dress, what they should say, how they should look, etc This, quite frankly, is bullshit. We live in a world where married men have twice the income as unmarried men because women select high income men to marry and divorce low income men when they do marry them. That's undeniably a societal expectation placed on men by women. It's odd to men women contribute to all these things enmasse and try to blame other men for it. I've never me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:40 AM
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Can you restate this? This is a scramble of words idk what you're even trying to say here. Are you saying women don't expect traditional men? Because in the experience of the men here that date women you're pretty wrong. IDK any man that would agree with that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:35 AM
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I agree with this take. I think it's undeniable most men have a better idea of where they align than most women do. But women back when the culture was Less gynocentric were undervaluing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:33 PM
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I mean she can talk about her morals and values. You know the things I judge other people I accept into my life on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:56 PM
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Y'all are the only two posters wit the correct answers lol. It's a softball lob across the plate, just say you have good morals and will be a great and supportive partner and hopefully mother. 99% of dudes that would ask something like that would have nothing to say back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:44 PM
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Doing what you want doesn't always help you accomplish your goals. I don't want to work, but work gets me closer to my life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:41 PM
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Most of those questions are useless though. I need women to realize men aren't looking to move into your home, drive around in your car, etc. unless they're bums. Y'all out here saying shit a sugar baby should care about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:39 PM
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This is an example of asking what they want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:35 PM
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because you can easily answer it for yourself by spending a week total with said person. You're assuming women are offering men boyfriend treatment in week 1. That's not a thing and if it is no one would have to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:34 PM
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The difference is slavery effects the lives of the descendants of slaves specifically. Past misogyny affects the life of literally everyone because everyone came from a man and a woman. Women nowadays don't suffer from it any more than men do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 09:04 PM
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I think you're being overly vague and they're of course filling in the blanks with an unfaithful version of whatever it is you might mean but I have no idea of what it is you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:43 PM
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Of course if it was romantic you wouldn't have turned him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:10 AM
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You can't know the intent so there's no difference to you. Not necessarily. I got into this situation once and I didn't hold it against him. So you liked him and you interpreted his actions in good faith. Thanks for agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:04 PM
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Do you want me to quote your post back to you? You just explained the duality of the situation here, something that automatically makes no sense. If we hung out platonically and then you went on to be romantic that's one thing. If you befriended me with the intention of dating me then don't. These are literally the same thing as far as actions taken. So as a man do what you want. If she likes you your actions will be interpreted in good faith. If not she'll assume the worst. Has nothing to do wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:34 PM
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Ignore them. The truth is a woman that likes you won't care how you find them. Do whatever makes you comfortable as long as it's respectful and not rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:22 PM
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Which is obviously where the issue is. Which is why as a man you do whatever you feel. Don't let women limit your options with things that don't, can't, and will never make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:20 PM
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What is there to care about? Most people have zero idea of what HVM do anyway. It's not like the average person even realizes how common high end escorts are in those types of circles. I didn't realize it until I saw it personally either (you go to a dinner party and it's 40% first wives, 25% second wives, 25% escorts, 5% sugar babies).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:44 PM
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Repeat this louder. My GF had like a 4.2 GPA in highschool and is incredibly smart. No career though. I could care less about her lack of a career given the fact she's the most intelligent woman I've ever dated by far (including a few doctors and research chemists).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:34 PM
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Prostitution has never been stigmatized for HVM. It's only stigmatized for men that know they can't get sex outside of prostitutes. HVM will still deal with high end escorts regularly and if anything the high end escort business is booming nowadays (most IG models are pay for play for example so if you see someone famous with an IG model remember they paid for that).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:25 PM
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That's literally not happening without normalizing and legalizing prostitution. You don't just wish away biological imperatives. It's like asking a cat to stop being so jumpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:24 PM
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The biggest. I want kids in the future so marriage is a no brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:17 AM
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She looks great for 60, but terrible for an average person (average age is 37). No one is insulting her. Looking terrible when you're old is completely natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:08 AM
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I'm sure you're a pleasant person to be around though. For women that aren't pleasant to be around they don't realize men want relationships because all men ever have and ever will want from them is a nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:57 PM
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I'm nowhere near broke and go on coffee dates and dates at the park. Every man I know with money that is actually looking for a relationship does the same. My coworkers and friends that do elaborate things are legitimately all cheaters looking for nothing long term with women. Dudes don't flash money to get wives unless they're 10/10 models and millionaires. Totally different world from most. Turns out men with money usually don't like gold diggers unless they're born rich types. You don't get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:48 PM
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Monica Bellucci looks terrible I don't think that was a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:19 PM
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That second one. Like we're not children, people can control their desires if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:28 AM
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That's a red flag. Not really. For point 1 that's a strange assumption. You can talk to a lot of women and you won't know. Women will tell you what they specifically want, while excluding tons of important shit. Women don't pull women, so they can't tell you how to. The advise you'll get from lesbians/bi women/men and straight women is totally different. For point 2 why assume women are lying because they give bad advice. For the most part it's as simple as them not knowing? Why would straight w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:21 PM
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I'm contesting the idea that men with little options aren't pursuing these women, unless I misread your post and that wasn't what you were saying in which case my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:01 PM
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Obese women have more lifetime sexual partners than non obese women. I don't know of any women with zero options at all. Of course they exist, especially past a certain age, but they're not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:32 PM
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A lot of guys don't really know what women find attractive because they only listen to other guys or they think gay men and straight women have the exact same taste in men. I call BS. I think men don't know what women find attractive because women, unlike men, aren't open about what they find attractive. Women will blatantly lie to men about these things. Example 1: Guys calling Pete Davidson a chad solely because he's tall and fair skinned, because they assume being tall and fair skinned automa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:22 PM
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Instagram and Tinder is real life (not OF). Men don't listen to women that attempt to say OLD isn't real when a plurality of relationships start online in 2021. I know zero men that do well in real life but can't do well online. This is a myth thought up by women to explain away pretty damning statistics showing how little women are attracted to most men. OLD also helps less experienced guys find their type so they can know what demographic to lean into. If the women matching with you, even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:11 PM
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I've heard this before but never understood why that would be. Is it because of how fast paced everything is, or how easy it is to get material goods? Like, you never really need to wait for anything, so people learn a constant "instant gratification" mentality even for relationships? It's because the people from rural areas that move to cities usually do so because their personality traits really clash with where they were raised and their life goals clash. Then there's the people that move to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:05 AM
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Self selecting doesn't have to be conscious. It can be as simple as you liking to be around certain personality traits and those traits being heavily associated with certain beliefs and behaviors. I haven't had female friends for a number of years, but when I did they tended to be the opposite/flipped ratios. I have no idea why. I'd guess considering you don't have female friends anymore that's because the type of women you were around weren't super similar to the men personality wise and maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:27 AM
1

I think you're making a lot of assumptions as someone that's non violent (I see MMA in the name but I know tons of guys that only fight in the gym) and doesn't know any violent people. Your propensity for violence unless it's past a certain point doesn't say all too much about your personality. Most people I know that are willing to be violent are actually great people and the exact type of people you'd want around you for any type of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:17 AM
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If you self select for the very small percentage of men that identify as feminists that'll make a difference. Idk any man that identifies as RP but every man I know is clearly RP and every man that taught me about women growing up repeated things I later learned were typically RP things (with a few changes). Either way over 50% of relationships don't work out (to be more correct only about 5-10% of relationships work out). If you know a lot of people with great relationship history and no one wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:35 AM
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I used to post on leftwingmaleadvocates (they're pretty damn racist as a mod team so I stopped posting there) and you would've been right 5 years ago saying this but the MRA movement has moved beyond right-wing chuds at this point. But yeah when it popped up it was more about screwing over women than helping men. It's not like that anymore though. As far as male rape and assault victims go it's an issue but men are too busy trying to be taken serious to even get off the ground with any type of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:32 AM
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Those guys would 100% be willing to manipulate if they're willing to pull a knife I'm guessing you don't know what manipulation means. Stabbing someone is very direct. Zero manipulation involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:26 AM
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Go find a post where I advocate men lie about anything. Real men try their best keep their word, be accurate, and live righteously. Why the fuck am I sneaking around the woman I decided to attempt to have a child with? What’s so difficult about that? I don't advocate for men to behave like little bitches. You do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:03 AM
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TIL men never cheat on women. And that no man have ever had an affair and fathered a child with the other woman. Do they also trick those women into raising that kid for 18 years through maternity fraud? How would that work exactly? Like gtfoh cheating is not the main issue here, it's investing 18 years into a child that's not yours. Can I ask — is this personal for you? Did you have a woman do this to you? Does it have to be personal to me for me to recognize it as something I don't want to hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:46 AM
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The same reason you're refusing to acknowledge my point that not everyone is a manipulative asshole like you and this sounds like a shitty thing to do. Why am I sneaking behind anyone's back to do anything? Live righteously and if you gotta hide what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. You're not a man, but I am and imma move like one in my life and always advocate for men to act and behave with character. Hard to lead the world to anything but shit (looks around at the world) if you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:38 AM
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Ding. Marriage is for the kids. If you don't want kids not wanting marriage makes sense. Whenever I meet a woman that wants a husband and no kids I'm completely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:25 AM
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False. https://www.thecut.com/2015/03/when-men-want-kids-and-women-arent-so-sure.html Trash website but accurate article. In a nationally representative survey of single, childless people in 2011, more men than women said they wanted kids. (On the other hand, more women reported seeking independence in their relationships, personal space, interests, and hobbies.) A different poll from 2013 echoed those findings, with more than 80 percent of men saying they'd always wanted to be a father or at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:22 AM
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Bro WTF are you talking about? I'm a grown ass man talking about your feminine ass who apparently knows nothing about being a man. Have fun though. Go have a child with the biggest hoe you know and pray it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:13 AM
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Bro WTF are you talking about? Yes or no are most women ok with their husbands asking for paternity tests? Like it's pretty simple. Most men having children with most women will be ruining their relationships asking for a paternity test. Personally I let women know how I feel about the topic but I'm not an average guy. Most dudes don't have the luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:11 AM
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You are also underestimating how common it is for a guy to step up for a child that isn't his. No I know tons of guys that have done that. They adopt the kids they don't sign the original birth certificate. It's weird you know a ton of people who've done that and no one that's a victim of paternity fraud. But that's why it's good data exists. You have any data, literally one bit of data proving what you said is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:08 AM
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Requiring sexual gratification doesn't mean you have 0 motivation and personality outside of sex just like requiring someone has a job doesn't mean you only see them as a wallet just like requiring they talk to you doesn't mean you only want to talk to them. Why be in a sexless relationship? I have friends for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:05 AM
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I literally did a DNA test for fun a few months ago and it cost me $60. What do you mean ‘this is literally something you can never know’. How many women do you know that will agree to have their husbands take a DNA test while NOT ruining the relationship? Like sure it's accessible and possible. Are most women staying in a relationship with a man that asks them for a paternity test? Probably not. It's the same as a prenup, it exists, but most women aren't staying with someone that wants one so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:03 AM
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I know so many people with single mothers that dated men that beat on them/cheated on them/dogged them out. Unless the parents are separated and celibate, or they're in the rare group that's toxic to each other but not to everyone it's not that much of a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:54 AM
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I'm so tired of people acting like just because the parents are separated their one bad relationship wouldn't be replaced with TWO bad relationships (because in most bad relationships both sides are at fault and the reason they can't have a healthy relationship is that they're not healthy relationship minded).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:49 AM
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Strange sources but I looked it up, everything I found says the same. Idk where the information comes from. Either way looking at lesbian and gay divorce rates there's a large difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:45 AM
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How many of those men do you know? You ever see a meta study confirming your (possibly) assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:41 AM
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I disagree, because most women with affairs use birth control. You have studies to prove this? I mean I'm not talking out my ass unlike you, you can look up any meta studies on the topic. My dad's "first" kid wasn't his. He only found out in court when she was 3 and he went for custody because she was crazy. You're really underestimating how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:39 AM
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Again whether or not I have the balls for most men with most women that's not an option if they want to live with their kid 7 days a week. You're attempting to act as if there's not another person (the woman) in this equation with her own feelings and motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:34 AM
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Depends on their wealth. If you're poor marriage isn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:42 AM
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You clearly don't realize this is literally something you can never know. Women just don't get that this is probably a man's biggest fear. Best case scenario is the kid looks like you and you don't have to guess. Worst case is you're raising someone else's kid (2-4% of the time). Way higher of a chance than rape and spousal abuse but I'm sure you see that as a reasonable fear. A partner with nothing to hide and a respect for men and masculine issues would have no problem with this. That's not 99…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:37 AM
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Some people aren't shady or sneaky and would rather do everything in the light with full and willing knowledge being given to all parties included.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:32 AM
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Exactly. And in her example he NEVER EVEN ACTUALLY GOT IT! Like she made my point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:27 AM
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If you think it's not normal you don't listen to men. Again why do you think men don't like promiscuous women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:26 AM
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Cool, so if that's how you feel don't judge men for being judgemental of women that are promiscuous. You can't have it both ways. It's easy to say you want a relationship built on trust when you will literally never face this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:25 AM
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After you're already on the birth certificate? Good luck getting off of it without actually knowing the real father to replace you on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:20 AM
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If no guys at all chased women women would chase the same few men they chase now and the top men would have soft harems. Women having more space to make a choice = more polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 08:23 PM
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Other than the fact that 99.9% of women wouldn't go for it and for the most part it's an easy way to make sure once you find out the kid is yours you'll be co-parenting them. If women took things like prenups and paternity tests as assurance for men instead of insults (they won't because they wouldn't benefit from making things more fair) you're right that this wouldn't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:45 PM
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Don't think that really happens much at all though compared to what's more normal (women in marriages with affairs).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:44 PM
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I can see that, you also have to take away the fathers where there was no fraud committed except to the child. WTF does this mean? The meta study looked at sound studies that looked at birth certificates and biological samples from the kids and parents, not polls. 2-4% of men listen on birth certificates aren't the actual fathers of their children. There's no such thing as paternity fraud to a child and not the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:20 PM
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Or she just wanted some sex This is the quote you're referring to. Where do you see the word just anywhere in reference to only wanting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:17 PM
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All facts. Dating is for a woman to figure out how much you're willing to pay for her company.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:48 PM
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No the topic here is people that want sex. I don't see one mention of only wanting sex outside of your post. Y'all have the mindset that sex is a gift women give men apparently. Not something 2 people can mutually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:44 PM
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Date women and asexuals if you don't want someone that requires sexual gratification out of their healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:39 PM
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Fucktoy? Regular people fuck humans, not toys, and they don't toss people to the side that they otherwise wanted because they had sex with them too fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:37 PM
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The real number for paternity fraud taken as random population samples is 2-4%. Still insanely high, but actually believable unlike 30%. Highest I've seen in any single study is 6%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:36 PM
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On what planet is it WOMEN pressuring WOMEN to have sex right away You said casual sex. Nothing about having sex right away. You realize those words aren't just interchangeable, right? So I will restate my post, casual sex was thought up by and created by women. It benefitted most women, and only a minority of men at the top. On what planet women wholly created the issue of men wanting sex right away on dating apps Men want sex as soon as women are willing to have sex. Back when that meant after…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:32 PM
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