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Purge week!DoctorWinchester87/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:19 PM
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Guys, in general, want to be desired by a partner that chooses them above others. Guys have an intense fear of being "settled for", because that situation often leads to passionless marriages, dead bedrooms, and divorce. Guys are competitive and always feel like a better option is going to come and take away their partner. That fear is even worse now because dating apps and social media at large have made it easier than ever before to be exposed to thousands upon thousands of options. The more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:38 PM
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I'm young guy in the American south, not religious. To me sex is somewhat scary in a way. You're putting yourself in an incredibly vulnerable position with someone who could completely change their mind about you the next day. Someone who you trust in that moment could turn out to be your worst enemy later down the line. And you're giving them access to your complete and naked self? That can be a scary thought to me. Especially since I'm not much in the looks or charm department, every time I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:27 PM
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I’m not (and never have been) middle class and i have never taken a sociology class, but great job i suppose of painting this image in your head that you could attack. My grandparents and great grandparents were rural and poor farmers who lived through the depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:47 PM
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A lot of younger people are incredibly confused on what is socially appropriate in different areas and situations of their lives. We were the generation that saw the death of social third spaces and the rise of social media and dopamine addiction. People are scared of the backlash and social stigma that can cone from taking risks in social spaces. People avoid flirting with coworkers because either they are scared of being reported to HR or they are afraid of sharing a social space with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:18 AM
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I think a lot of what is wrong with the current dating landscape is the importance placed on the dopamine rush of validation that comes from securing a partner, rather than the actual security and comfort that having a partner brings. Social media and dating apps have curated an entire generation of dopamine addicts no different to gamblers who don't know when to walk away from the slot machine. To that affect, I do think people will try to be whatever they need to be to make the validation part…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:59 PM
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Dating apps just run so contrary to how dating should be. We are taught since childhood to be distrustful of strangers. It’s incredibly unnatural to just scroll through a catalog of people and pick the ones you like. It’s dehumanizing. This phenomenon hit the job market incredibly hard as well. People go through so much trouble to make their resume and Linked In profile perfect, but still miss out on most job opportunities. I don’t even think most people even look at the full profile most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:49 PM
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Yep. The ole Jeffrey Dahmers <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:18 PM
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Anecdotally, I live in a very conservative/Republican area and the vast majority of the women around here are deeply conservative to match. And just judging from dating apps and just living here, most of them are of average or above average looks. They tend to focus a lot more on being traditionally feminine. The bigger issue I think is that the conservative women in this area, while being fairly attractive, tend to be deeply religious and many unironically believe in waiting till marriage for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:33 PM
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You raise valid points - but I do think those points are based to some extent on a negative stereotype of the pre-sexual revolution era. My grandparents were part of the WWII generation - my grandpa was a WWII vet and married my grandma after leaving the Army. They were both from large, poor farming families. He met her through his brother and they fell in love and dated for a while before getting engaged and married. And they definitely had sex before marriage - my grandma confirmed this. And s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:32 PM
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We were raised to have certain understandings and expectations about the world, but things changed so quickly that a lot of those understandings and expectations have been nullified over the past two decades. Our parents and grandparents grew up in a time that seems almost alien now. They mostly grew up in a time where social dynamics were important and reinforced by their community. They were taught to form friendships early and that their ultimate goal in life was to get married, have kids, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:49 PM
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I'm just incredibly skeptical about the "robots are the future coffin nail for relationships" argument. I think people will always crave other people - their warmth, their character, their personality. I just can't imagine a world where the vast majority of people will be satisfied with a hollow and cold relationship with a machine. I don't care how sophisticated things get - I just don't think people will prefer that over a genuine relationship with another human. I think, at most, it will be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:47 PM
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A lot of people in the US have the approximate reading level of an elementary school student. And there's a decent number of adults who are "functionally illiterate" - they can read and write their name and basic things like household items for a grocery list, but struggle anything outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:07 PM
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This is basically what the textbook philosophy of MGTOW is supposed to be - guys shifting their focus and energy from failed attempts at dating to successful attempts at bettering their life and improving their well-being. Of course the waters got pretty muddy in the MGTOW movement and the motivations seemed to shift more towards bitterness. I think "monk mode" is a term I've heard being used to describe this sort of lifestyle adjustment - conditioning oneself to no longer desire romantic endeav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:59 PM
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My primary disagreement with the blackpill is what is considered "attractive" is not universal. There is a baseline attraction level based on physical fitness and certain features, but outside of that, attractiveness can vary a lot with culture and region. I live in a semi-rural conservative area and big-ole country boys do very well here, but wouldn't fair nearly as well in a big city. A lot of viewpoints in the manosphere are skewed towards middle class suburban white American perspectives. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:48 PM
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There's a lot of people on the spectrum in the online manosphere and gender-wars sphere, this sub included. People want to find logic where there isn't any. They want to find some kind of code to crack, so they can either exploit it or rule themselves out because of it. They want a universal truth that explains all their observations and opinions. The truth is really not that exciting. Some people are more attractive than others. These people tend to be positively socialized which leads to a hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:53 PM
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I’d argue that those with the most success are people who are unknowingly bluepilled. People who have consistent, relatively positive dating lives have no need to over analyze and hyperfocus on dating dynamics. These are people who are moderately attractive, have decent social skills, and are typically neurotypical. These are your people that start dating in middle school, messed around with a few puppy-love relationships in high school, and had one or two long term relationships in college that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:53 PM
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I do think there’s a high concentration of autism/neuroticism here, and that’s coming from someone who is on the spectrum. People here tend to be incredibly analytical in their approach to relationships and dating, trying to find logic where there isn’t any. Like another commenter said, they approach everything like a mathematical formula that has one universal solution. Trying to find logic in human behavior is a fool’s errand - patterns do exist and I do think there is a baseline that describe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:56 PM
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If they can get away with scorched earth-ing Al Franken, they can get away with it every single time. His example is proof that any semblance of inappropriate behavior, even the most innocuous and in good-fun, can and will be used against you.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 05:48 PM
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A lot of it just comes down to autism. I’d wager a good chunk of those involved in the pill sphere are on the spectrum. I’m autistic myself and it seems pretty clear to me. Those on the spectrum tend to have very analytical thinking that seeks to find logic and reason within observed patterns. Just about everything in the pill sphere comes down to observation and statistics. Being on the spectrum can also cause very stilted speech and social unawareness, which comes across on a lot of posts here…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:05 AM
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At what point did I state anyone is “entirely” associated with anything? I used the word “typically”. Sounds like you’re putting words in my mouth. And if you’re getting hung up on specific words that I did or didn’t use, that’s just being pedantic and adds nothing to the conversation.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 02:36 AM
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If you took two people, both being completely identical except one is a man and the other is a woman, most people would likely chose the woman. Men are typically associated with negative traits (brutish, dim witted, creepy, callous) while women are typically associated with positive traits (compassionate, caring, gentle). I think a lot of guys start noticing this in school. I noticed it a lot in college as my friendship group included quite a few women. People were just much more agreeable towar…
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 11:07 PM
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Yeah I was expecting some obese neckbeard that looks like Quinton Reviews or something. This guy looks like every-other guy on an American college campus these days. I'd say he's around average if not just slightly below.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:30 PM
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I apologize if I came off a certain way or misrepresented things you said. Sometimes I get a little carried away. But I still stand behind my point that intentionally maximizing autistic traits will only do harm in the short and long run. I guess I should just answer your original question: "Is it worth it?" and my answer is a resounding NO. I've been there and done that. For a lot of my adolescence/early college years, I had the "I don't give a fuck what people think, I'm just gonna be who I am…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:27 PM
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I said all that because you're being incredibly dense in regard to the social consequences involved in your "option". You say that acting that way is "easier" - you're just wrong on that. Your whole take on this just seems to be "but girlfriend bro". There is never a guarantee that you will get a girlfriend unless you are extremely attractive with great social prowess. Going around acting like an out-of-control manchild will create nothing but problems in your life. If you think that is worth it…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:24 PM
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You've seen it work, once. What you didn't care to mention is how disastrously acting that way can backfire. If you go around acting in full on autist mode, you turn yourself into a walking circus for others' amusement at best, and a social liability at worst. Autism isn't a valid excuse for just saying and acting however you want. You can still get in serious trouble at work/school for saying inappropriate or weird things. It doesn't matter how "confident" you are about it or how many times you…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:56 PM
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Trust me, the last thing you want is the pity of neurotypicals. Like the other commentor said, at best you end up being infantilized by women (and other men). You become "buddy" and everyone treats you like you're ten years old. People will try to apologize to others for your behaviors and character traits like you're their mentally disabled friend. It's a really shitty way to be and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. At worst, people will instantly label you as a weirdo/creeper because of your aloof…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:00 PM
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I think you've worded this really well and I agree with most of your points. I think the bigger issue is that "normies" just don't really care about the plight of chronically single, lonely men and "incels". Articles describing the "male loneliness epidemic" are posted to big subreddits from time to time, and the overall feeling you get from most of the comments is "why should we care?" or "men aren't entitled to relationships, they just need to get over themselves". Most people simply don't car…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:17 PM
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Definitely. A lot of guys are just checking out of society - working simple jobs to make enough money to support themselves and hobbies like gaming. It's very rare for me to see guys out in public alone. If I see guys at the store it's almost always them with their partner or a group of friends, and those guys tend to be above average looking. I think any big social event nowadays is going to have very few single below average looking guys. From what I understand even places like clubs are mostl…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:18 PM
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I never realized I was a short guy until I went to college. I always thought I was roughly average because there weren’t too many tall kids in my high school. Then I got to college and it seemed like most guys towered over me. I went to a small private college so most of the guys were tall, white, athletic, and upper middle class. It was an awakening for me. I live in a college town and most of the young couples I see out in public are some variation of: Guy is above average height and looks, ha…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:08 AM
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It's not over unless you're below 4 (trust me). Your size is pretty much the ideal Goldilocks size.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 12:02 PM
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A major blow to dating has been the evaporation of third spaces for in-person mingling for young people. Ever since the boomers came around, teenagers would mingle outside of school because there was really no other way for socialization outside of talking on the telephone. My dad (a boomer) will literally strike up a conversation with anybody and never feels awkward or embarrassed by doing so. People of his generation were pushed to be social and to learn how to interact with others. Our genera…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:59 AM
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Most people are just mediocre people leading mediocre lives, and there's nothing wrong with that. At some point (I guess maybe in the 80s or 90s?) someone decided that we would start rewarding people for mediocrity and them feel special for no real reason. As much as I detest the pearl clutchers who shout about "participation trophies", I do think that we started giving people the wrong idea about what kind of life they would live. We started telling people "you can do anything if you work hard …
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:33 PM
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King Solomon is the original Gigachad
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 11:29 PM
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Attractive women, easily. The criteria for "attractive" is much more broad for women. Women can be chubby, skinny, built, or just average and still possess a certain beauty. I'd say if you pulled a random lady from the population, most guys would find something nice about her. For men, the range is very narrow and is not nearly as forgiving. You need to be tall, lean, and fit with good facial structure to really be considered universally attractive. Imperfections are a lot less forgiving for guy…
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 02:24 PM
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It makes me extremely hesitant to date and the anxiety about it has essentially killed my sex drive (almost a blessing in a way). It’s just one of those things I wish people would be more honest about. Above average penises are better in just about every way for most people. And people online love to say “if you’re average you’re fine”. Well what if you’re below average? You will face a lot of rejection and ridicule. I’m incredibly embarrassed by my situation and no amount of platitude chanting …
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:55 PM
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Path of least resistance holds true for most people. I just don’t care enough to take all that time and energy to contort myself into a product to sell to others. You can’t looksmax autism or depression (though going to the gym can help depression). I just don’t care enough about sex or relationships anymore. I’d rather just live the little niche life I’ve carved out for myself.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:18 PM
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That's the beauty of the blackpill - it's not really that complicated. It's kind of like the relationship version of Michael Pollan's eating mantra ("eat food, not too much, mostly plants"). For the blackpill its: "Some people are highly attractive, most are not, people will naturally gravitate towards the attractive ones." We used to have a lot of social conditioning and pretense surrounding this idea because other things were more important than looks alone and dynamics were put in place to su…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:42 PM
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Tall skinny white guys typically have a beggar’s banquet in the dating world. Airheads also tend to do well because they aren’t complicated and have more intrinsic masculinity. Intelligence is often seen as a very feminine and unattractive trait in guys unless it is coupled with perfect looks.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 03:19 AM
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Being a blackpill victim (aka receiving the negative impacts of the blackpill due to being unattractive) is highly comorbid with having clinical depression and neurodivergency. This typically causes a major sense of apathy which fuels low productivity and a broken mindset that sometimes gives way to nihilism - because why does anything really matter if others live a life much more fulfilling and meaningful than yours? I hate to sound like some kind of life coach or guru or something, but I think…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:43 PM
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I'm 26. I guess I became blackpilled when I got to college. It was my first time being surrounded by attractive, athletic, upper middle class white kids. I never knew I was short or unattractive until I was routinely surrounded by guys taller and much better looking than I was. There just weren't that many super attractive people in my middle and high school experience - most people were either average or below average. I didn't care at all about relationships in middle or high school. I had the…
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 02:04 PM
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Yes, and current statistics agree with this. I think the reasons are very complicated, but some big picture influences are: living in the post sexual revolution era, collapse of the middle class and economic instability, and the elimination of third space social interaction in favor of virtual socialization and parasocial relationships. The sexual revolution brought with it a whole new understanding of relationships. In the past, relationships were built primarily in power dynamics and the socia…
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 02:45 PM
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Comedians are used to being controversial and aren’t afraid to say things that other celebrities would be scared to say in public. Thus comedians often will offer a level of raw honesty not usually seen in popular media.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:26 AM
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I’d say that a lot of it is due to how the dating landscape has changed so rapidly in just the past 20 years due to the rise of dating apps and social media. Most of us were raised by blue pilled people in a bluepill society. The bluepill worked for grandpa and grandma because the dating landscape and priorities were completely different then. The concept of a “provider” husband was the main priority of women. Sure looks were important, but for most people the dating pool was very limited and a …
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:04 AM
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I would say most incels are probably NEETs. I’m in STEM, and I would say from my experience, very few males fit the incel description. Most of the guys I came across as a chemist were quite charming and attractive with girlfriends or wives. The white guys at least, I’m not sure about the East Asian or Indian guys though. They usually never talk about themselves. I’m sure that changes as you get more into engineering and computer science. I’ve known a couple comp sci guys who lacked what seemed l…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 01:16 PM
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This just shows how much attraction (raw, instinctual attraction) overcomes all those platitudes people throw out. I’ve known women (colleagues and cousins) who basically functioned as a mom to their boyfriends and put up with ridiculous behaviors. They cooked for them, cleaned for them, made all their appointments, and handled all their finances. I’ve heard some of them also complain about the situation here - guys not washing their nasty ass and going to bed in their dirty work clothes and sho…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:04 AM
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If it’s something that Redditors are really good at, it’s being sanctimonious and self righteous. “Incel” is the latest gotcha insult to make someone look bad. Incels are associated with perverse and violent neuroses in popular media, alongside being stereotyped as weirdos. It’s a quick way to label someone as a loser/creep and a bad person. Redditors in general like to feel they are better than others, so calling someone a loser will make them look better. It’s very similar to how Nazi is throw…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:37 AM
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It sucked when I was 19 too. But as I got older, I realized that a lot of people in relationships aren’t really that happy and cheating and drama are rampant. I realized that a lot of people don’t know how to function or find happiness outside of a relationship or casual sex. The average conventionally attractive person starts dating and messing around in middle school and usually never goes longer than a couple months before getting back up on the horse. It’s all they know. If you can find some…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 10:07 PM
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Mine is CBP. While I don’t think he specifically identifies as blackpilled, but he makes really fair content and has pretty good takes on blackpill adjacent issues. I used to like Wheat Waffles until he essentially became a used car salesman taking advantage of insecure low tier guys by charging them money to tell them what they already know about their looks.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 11:08 PM
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I think it’s going to continue to get worse until VR is ubiquitous enough and advanced enough to fill the void. I unironically believe that in the next 50 years we are going to see more and more people spending their free time in virtual reality spaces with artificial intelligence to keep them company. We already spend a lot of time online as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:33 AM
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College is where I got blackpilled as well. Seeing tons of upper middle class athletic white kids run around screwing each other and having a blast really set the tone for me. But I focused all my energy on academics, which I felt (and still feel) is what college is supposed to be about. I ended up doing well, too - graduated magna cum laude with highest honors and got accepted to some really good graduate schools.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 09:54 PM
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The lacrosse players from my undergrad college.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 02:06 PM
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America is very much a dichotomy in respect to fitness. I've noticed that the two ends are growing further and further apart - the people into fitness are really into fitness and take that lifestyle very seriously, and the people not into fitness are really not into it. You have the fitness crazy people at the opposite end of the obesity crisis. There seemingly isn't as much room in the "middle" as there used to be. Looking back at my dad's generation (baby boomers), it seems that most of them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:48 PM
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It was when I got to college. I went to a high school were there weren’t that many super attractive people. I grew up working class and just about everyone I knew was below average looking beyond a few athletes or girl next door types. College was my first time being around upper middle class attractive people. The way they interacted and the sexual tension that existed between attractive college age kids was alien to me. It showed me that attractive guys live a very different life and the Halo …
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 03:00 AM
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I am unattractive and have Asperger’s (coupled with depression). My looks and social presentation have pretty much everything to do with my lack of dating success. I try to be an upstanding guy in the real world. I’m a graduate student, I graduated college with highest honors and a great GPA, I spend a lot of time helping out my older family members, and I interact with people in the real world all day long. I also have plenty of female colleagues and acquaintances I interact with every day. And…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 01:59 PM
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I'm Christian. I'm also blackpilled. I don't think one necessarily conflicts with the other. My religion shapes my spiritual beliefs and has some impact on my morals and values. I can at the same time understand that looks are now the primary and overarching reason for dating success or failure. It's the natural result of the proliferation of social media and dating apps combined with the decline of the middle class and social spaces in America. Me believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ and h…
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 12:24 AM
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Also, just look at the population statistics alone. With over a billion people to chose from, there are going to be more above average immigrants alone just based on numbers.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 10:40 PM
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I wouldn’t say they are chronically online. I’d say it just comes down to Reddit’s propensity to white-knighting and moral grandstanding. People on this site suffer hard from main character syndrome and typically see themselves as beacons of moral virtue. You’ll notice tons of guys on here defending women and the dating status quo in hopes of some crumbs getting thrown their way. Bluepill gets promoted heavily because it’s the status quo and the feel-good pill. Redditors also love giving non-adv…
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 12:40 AM
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A lot of guys grow a beard to cover up weak jaw/baby face. Chubby/fat guys usually sport beards to cover the double chin and as an attempt to cash in on that “teddy bear” aesthetic. I think the modern beard trend came about with the performative masculinity movement of the early 2010s - the whole lumbersexual hipster backlash to the metrosexual movement. In their heads, some guys earned +10 manly points by sporting a beard. In general, I think most guys look better clean shaven or with stubble. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:59 PM
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Posts here are based on experience and perspective. People who struggle with dating, and have always struggled with dating, are going to have a very different perspective to the average person. I’m someone who always had no luck with dating and I grew really tired of people throwing all their half baked platitudes at me. When I found the blackpill, it described my experiences and observations to a tee. I like the posts on here because they are a nice change from the typical white knighting and s…
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 02:09 AM
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A lot of guys do the beard thing to cover up baby face and/or lack of jawline. Also, the beard is to the 2010s what the mustache is to the 70s/80s.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 01:19 AM
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I've maintained for a long time that whatever "pill" one subscribes to is primarily driven by that person's personal experiences and observations with the dating landscape and human behavior, just like pretty much everything in life. People on reddit tend to shit a lot on anecdotes and personal experiences, because they're not scientific or reproducible, which means that no true conclusion can be drawn from them. However, I think the dating landscape blurs the lines of "science", and I do believ…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:00 PM
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I always just chalk this up to neurotypicals not being able to understand the mentality of someone with autism. Autism is without a doubt a social disability - it primarily effects the ability for someone to communicate with others and understand/interpret social cues. I have a feeling that the “autistic” people that bluepillers always talk about are probably the most high functioning/masking MFs around or they may just have a mild case of social awkwardness. I know a guy with Asperger’s who rec…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 01:13 PM
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As others have stated, the truth hurts. People absolutely do not want to be told that they have been lied to just to make them feel better. It’s like being told Santa isn’t real as a kid. I would say that permanently “bluepilled” individuals deny the blackpill because in their experience, bluepill works for them. The vast majority of people who follow the bluepill are already average or above average looking, upper middle class, white collar, and live in urban areas. These people have ticked off…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:13 PM
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I will attempt to expand on your point on “being sociable is not a skill that can be developed” and place some logic to it. I (and I suspect a decent percentage of other “incels” and guys in the pill sphere at large) have Asperger’s syndrome, and being on the Autistic spectrum is probably the leading cause of this premise that you’ve seen. Autism is a social disease and cripples one’s ability to understand and process normal social behaviors and practices. In that, I fully believe that for those…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:59 AM
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I think bluepill was a fairly unique school of dating that really came of age in the 20th century Anglosphere. This is basically when the modern notion of “dating” emerged as something different to traditional courting or arranged marriages. I think it prospered especially under conditions where dating options were limited and the only real time social interaction was in person or the telephone. When your options are limited and the number of people you talk to every day is limited, the ways you…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:29 PM
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Personally I never understood why someone would pay good money to have a grown man rate their looks. You can look in the mirror and get a pretty good idea of where you sit, or if you really want, you can post to a multitude of “rate me” subreddits for free. I used to be a regular viewer of his, and I think some of his analysis videos hold up well. But a lot of his content is repetitive and he doesn’t really have anything new to offer other than trying to sell you crap.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 12:12 PM
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I do think that some people can be myopic in terms of what defines “looks” according to blackpill. For example, any guy on the autism spectrum is going to have a much more difficult time than any given neurotypical. But how do looks factor into that? Well, I’m on the spectrum and most of my friends have been as well, and i have noticed a general trend of how autists have a certain overall look. My argument is that looks are not always down to jawline, hairline, and physique. Posture, gait, facia…
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 12:12 PM
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Churchmaxxing will only work if you’re in the 16 - 22 age bracket, and even then you still have to be a chad or chadlite. I grew up in a very, very conservative and Christian town in the southern US. Being a good Christian is expected of just about everyone, and it would be social suicide to come out as non religious. Being a man that “loves and follows Jesus” is a prerequisite for women here - it’s mentioned in 9/10 dating app bios. What does that mean? Similar to “nerd”, “loves Jesus” means th…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 10:47 PM
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I migrated here from PPD because that sub got overrun with white knighting, virtue signaling, and bad faith arguments all around. With blackpill being banned there, you can’t really counter the narrative and if you do, you get dogpilled for being an incel. Blackpill is the status quo now. Social media (Tik Tok, Instagram, Twitter) and dating apps have confirmed that looks are now the primary mode of attraction for men. People can do with that information what they will, but it tells us one thing…
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 12:22 PM
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I think a lot of it draws from how difficult it is to achieve now. In my grandfather’s day, you courted women by going to the weekly dances and finding a woman that you liked. Your competition was fairly limited to the other guys in the general area. Finding a woman and getting married was seen as the default, and you’d have to have something seriously wrong with you not to achieve that. Certainly gender dynamics were far different back then - women needed men for financial support and as a prov…
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 11:25 AM
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While I probably do relate to those girls the most, there’s a few reasons why I’ve had no success in trying to date them: 1) I’m usually too nerdy/awkward for them. They like the “good ole county boys”, you know, the ones who wear only carhart and baseball caps and drive those lifted pick up trucks. I’m a nerdy guy with Asperger’s syndrome who they don’t see as attractive. 2) 99% of them are taken. The good ones get snatched up shortly after high school and get married soon after. I don’t think …
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 03:17 AM
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I became black pilled in college. I grew up in a small southern community (America) where a lot of people are “churchpilled” (most women are looking for a “good hardworking guy who loves Jesus”). I was used to being around average or below average looking working class folks. Most my high school crushes were girl-next-door types and I never really witnessed a lot of the tropes that get talked about in here. I reached my max height of 5’7/5’8 (I’m somewhere between that) in high school, but I did…
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 11:33 PM
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I can tell you as someone with Asperger’s (along with a few other issues), it’s detrimental to dating. Because I don’t understand a lot of subtle social cues, it’s impossible for me to interact with someone in a flirty way. If I tried to flirt with someone, it would most likely make me look like a creepy predator because I don’t do well with nuance. Social skills are vital to people respecting you. Neurotypical people seem to do this without struggle because they have it encoded. They started as…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 12:06 PM
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I’ll explain it the way I’ve always seen it: Bluepill: “Be yourself” Repill: “improve yourself” Blackpill: “understand yourself” Bluepill is essentially the generic status quo understanding of dating dynamics, especially for middle class average white people from the Anglo sphere. These people tend to be average or above in looks and socio economic status, and therefore have a much better dating experience than those below them. From their perspective, dating is all about highlighting your attri…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 10:39 PM
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I’ve discussed dating beliefs at length with my close friends. We’re all guys in our 20s who have very limited/non existent dating experience and all consider ourselves below average for various reasons. We all tend to agree on various principles of what most would consider to be the “blackpill”, namely that looks are the most important aspect of dating for guys and that women are a lot more shallow than they’d have you believe. However, when I’ve discussed my views on dating with colleagues and…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 09:49 PM
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This is true of any social media. It’s an inherently visual platform (except Twitter I guess, but it has enough of its own problems) therefore pretty much useless to any of us who are below average. No one cares what I’m doing or how my life is going, and I don’t feel the need to share it with others. I’m often very confused by people who constantly post things to instagram or use Snapchat or TikTok constantly. I like Reddit because it’s anonymous and it’s easy to blend in. I guess some people j…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:54 PM
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It’s a cycle that perpetuates itself: 1) Download Hinge (the only one that is worth fooling with) 2) Upload the best photos I have (they’re not great but I hate pictures) and put in decent effort on prompts 3) Start sending out likes, and maybe get 10% of those back as a match at some point. 4) try to start conversation with the match. It takes them all day to message back with the most simple answer, so the conversation can never really go anywhere. They claim a variety of excuses such as “I do…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:20 PM
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Humor, like everything else, is based in looks. Average/above average + humor = “funny guy”, meanwhile below average/ugly + humor = “weird guy” or “guys who’s trying too hard”
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 12:06 PM
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I have Asperger’s / autism spectrum (with a few other problems as well), and overall it has been detrimental to my dating life. Neurotypical women (and men) can smell it from a mile away and usually interpret me as weird or awkward. It feels like everything I say or do is interpreted in a negative way and I can’t pick up well on the social cues of discomfort. I think one thing that’s helped me a lot is being friends with women who are also on the spectrum/ neurodivergent. I find it much easier t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:51 AM
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Exactly, couldn’t have said it better. If I had to break down pills as I see them, it would be: Bluepill: “you need to be yourself” Red pill: “you need to improve yourself” Black pill: “you need to understand yourself” To me, the black pill is all about understanding your position in the attractiveness hierarchy and accepting the hand that genetics has dealt you. Any talk of improvement is real just red pill at the end of the day. Black pill is simply a statement on the natural order of things.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 11:50 AM
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I would say that the vast majority of incels blend in to their surroundings to some degree - hiding in plain sight. I don’t think most people care enough to think about other people’s sexual lives who they aren’t interested in. I’ve always believed that the majority of people are very self-centered and think about most things in a very surface level way. I think I try to lead a normal life, but I’m autistic so that definitely sends up warning flags to normies. People definitely treat me as diffe…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 10:24 AM
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To me, this is just a symptom of the growing divide we are seeing due to the impacts of social media, dating apps, and apps like TikTok. People are awakening to the fact that most people are pretty shallow and that looks really are 90% of attraction. People used to hide this stuff behind social performance and the fact that people’s options were limited in the past. Now, women have open range of thousands of thirsty guys. Guys understand now that unless you’re at least a 7/10, the costs far outw…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 03:01 AM
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I’ve always been of the opinion that a good chunk of people just lack a general sense of self-awareness and act out of impulse a majority of the time. Some people just can’t construct a logic chain that tells them “if I choose to do x then y is a possible outcome.” Me being on the spectrum, I tend to over analyze all possible outcomes and it typically leads me to avoid making risky decisions. Some people just lack the forward thinking to imagine that their decisions can have consequences that ar…
/r/AllPillDebate30/04/23 01:47 PM
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I have a small penis, and it definitely is one of the primary reasons I'm hesitant to date anyone, let alone even imagine having any form of casual sex. The worst feeling in the world is seeing someone have disappointment over something you have no control over. It's hard to have confidence when statistically you're more likely to get laughed at and have rumors spread about you. I've pushed myself away from relationships and dating for many other reasons, but the small penis is like the icing on…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:38 PM
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I know haha I was trying my best to be sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:47 PM
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I guess I'm undateable then lol. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:12 PM
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I'm hoping he's just a troll who likes to stir the pot. It worries me that people actually have opinions like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:05 PM
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For one thing, military conscription is completely useless outside of a major global conflict, and I hope the draft never gets used again in the US. It's just a way to send middle/lower class men to die for defense contractors and politicians who wage pointless wars of aggression. But to actually tackle your point: how would conscription do anything for "male fatness"; if you're anything more than a little chubby in the belly (think Pvt. Pyle from Full Metal Jacket), you'd be turned down for mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:35 PM
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Don't flatter yourself LOL; you spam your bullshit everywhere. And I'm a DUDE, my guy. Looks like your "powers of perception" have blinded you yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:05 PM
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You'll never get anywhere with this guy. He literally wallows in his own bullshit, and when you call him out on anything, the mental gymnastics begin. He's got this really weird idea that women want to shove men on the frontlines to suffer and die so they can enjoy spoiled lifestyles. He's also a rape apologist, for what it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:38 PM
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Exactly; that's not a road that we want to go down. Bullying is bad enough on this sub; we don't need to have an open-invitation for people to use one's looks as another way to viciously attack them. Plus knowing how petty and antisocial some people on here can be, it would likely lead to social media doxxing and possibly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:30 PM
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We all know Florida man is a super-skinny chain smoker who wears those tank-tops with the really low-cut arm holes. This is more like Arkansas man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:42 PM
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The only thing from your list that applies to me is being overweight. I cook, I clean, I take a shower every day, I hate Jordan Peterson and his ilk, I have a full head of hair, I consider myself a feminist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:30 PM
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You often hear the 80/20 rule tossed around on this sub as the explanation, and yeah that statistic works for online dating because most online dating takes away any form of personality or body language. It's mostly looks driven because that's the focal point: your pictures. In-life dating has little correlation to online dating for most people. You pretty well described quite a few of the guys around this sub at least (especially during purge week). There are definitely a lot of young guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:17 PM
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Where are you from? Is it not common where you're at?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:44 AM
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Seems like even on that account, you still get regularly downvoted like crazy for your ignorant hot-takes. No, you're literally not talking about oppression and genocide. You posted a dumb-ass meme showing soldiers in WWI, a war in which women were not allowed to fight in combat roles. Hell, women didn't even have the right to vote in many countries at that point. The fact that you think you're making such a deep and thorough point here is truly entertaining. And the fact that you whipped out yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:37 AM
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LOL the only intellectual dishonesty here is coming from you, my guy. I wouldn't be talking so big with all the negative karma you have lol. You're just fishing for half-baked reasons to hate women. But you completely dodge the historical role of women in both world wars because it doesn't fit your weird agenda. Keep on telling yourself that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:55 AM
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Exactly haha. These guys must not live in the southern US (or if they do, they're blind) because at least half the relationships I see on a daily basis are white girls with black guys. It's like the new thing for white girls in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:51 AM
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Dawg, women weren't allowed to serve in combat roles in either world war. Hell, they were barely allowed to serve in the military outside of nurses or intelligence personel. You act like it was their choice. It was banned by the military leadership, my guy. How about you take a look at some of those "entitled women" shielding their children and digging through the rubble after all those bombings in England in WWII. They were just as important to the war effort as the men on the frontlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:45 AM
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What the fuck does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:29 AM
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Why make a meme that shows a time period where women specifically weren't allowed to serve in combat? I see you conveniently left out the photos of women working their asses off in munitions and vehicle factories supporting the war effort of both world wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:00 AM
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My ex-girlfriend was British, and I'm an American. British and American culture is somewhat different, but all the basics are still the same. Dating dynamics are somewhat different because British people tend to be a lot more direct and blunt about their feelings than Americans. The "American Flirt" is an archetype for a reason. American girls, in my experience, tend to a lot more stuck-up and difficult to get close to. British girls seem to be more laid back and easier to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:31 AM
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Sex and gender aren't the same thing. For a long time they were used as synonyms, but 20th century social science has defined them as different things. Sex describes your biology. You're either born with male or female reproductive organs. Gender is a meshwork of social and cultural practices that are reinforced by different cultures. Gender and gender roles have been shifting as long as civilization as existed. And they vary widely depending on time period, religion, ethnicity, and geography. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:24 AM
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I guess it depends on who is doing the judging. The only people that have ever called me ugly were my ex-girlfriend and her friends. I'm sure there's some reasons behind that, but who knows. I'd rate myself a solid 5/10 looks wise. I need to lose more weight and get a little muscle mass, but I've been told my face is pretty good looking and I have great hair. Girls also seem to really like my voice. If you include personality into the equation, I probably get bumped up to a 6.5/10. I tend to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:54 PM
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I feel like a lot of the incels are lurkers that "only come out at night" when these purge weeks happen. They start crawling out from under the rocks, so to speak. Most of the regular red-pill people here are pretty consistent in their opinions. I might disagree with a lot of them, but they're at least consistent. Some RP guys on here tip into the incel pool, but not all of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:50 PM
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My man's eyes in the second pic looking like something from the PS1 era.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:13 PM
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Dawg, how many times do you have to be told: these out of context videos don't mean dick. All of the people that were "kicked out" seems as though they had been pulling some Karen moments and making scenes. Funny how all the videos cut to them being talked to and/or removed with none of the prior context as to why they were removed. And the interviews? You have no idea who those people are. That "postal worker" could be any fucking body. That's literally the definition of hearsay. Sycophantic cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:57 PM
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That's pretty much the whole idea, I think. People who are treated poorly, either justly or unjustly, build up resentment and bitterness over time. It's much easier to vent that bitterness in the form of systemic hatred than it is to resolve your feelings and let them go. It's also easier to come up with complex and bizarre theories and mythologies about gender dynamics than to admit that most people simply act out of self-interest, regardless of their gender. I can see the point of some of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:43 PM
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A lot of the topics that come up here are bannable in most other subs, so it's nice to see the filter come off. I do think there's quite a few people here who are unhinged, and I still think that quite a few regulars here either suffer from antisocial personality disorder or are on the spectrum (possibly both). But there's still a lot of interesting people here with things to say. I shit on incels sometimes, but even I can agree with them on a few things. I kinda consider this my guilty-pleasure…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:36 PM
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Ooh boy you are really sucking hard on that copium. Rallies mean nothing other than how much of a cult of personality a candidate has. Trump has a massive cult of personality, therefore lots of people come out to see him. That's in no way reflective of how many votes a candidate receives. The huge voter turn out was in large part due to the fact that mail-in and absentee voting was so much more prominent in this year's election. The Democrats told their voters to use mail-in, so they did in reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:18 PM
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Give one ounce, one ounce of evidence that anything fraudulent happened in the election that would actually hold up in a court. Don't give me biased sources or talking heads, I'm talking about damning smoking-gun evidence. Oh that's right, you don't have any, because if you did, all those 50 court cases wouldn't have been laughed out of court by Federalist Society, bread-and-butter conservative justices approved by McConnell and co. I'm no fan of the DNC, but claiming they were able to pull off …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:07 PM
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Imagine wanting a fucking civil war just because you can't accept the outcome of a democratic election, in which no substantial cases of voter fraud have been found, anywhere. It's been laughed out of court and dismissed by any rational person who doesn't have fantasies of staging a coup and ass-fucking the constitution. Aren't you the same people that said "get over it" in 2016? Sounds like you need to practice what you preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:20 PM
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All I see is some grainy video of people moving boxes of ballets around. And if you think for a minute I'm about to take Blaze TV and Squeaky Benjamin seriously, get real. If this so called "evidence" actually amounted to anything, then all those lawsuits and court cases wouldn't have been laughed out of court by conservative judges. You keep grasping for straws to prop up a wannabe authoritarian and his sycophants. If you just want to get rid of democracy and support authoritarianism, just come…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:17 PM
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And it presents Frollo as the ultimate angry incel. That movie has just about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:06 PM
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I do agree with you, it is a band-aid; similar to how sex-tourism is a band aid (to those that can afford it). But I just don't see how we can alter the path that society is heading down, unless we completely start from scratch again. Things like social media will only continue to grow more important in people's lives, and this culture of loneliness and depression will only continue to get worse as economies suffer and inequality grows. It's like sex is becoming a distraction, more than anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:21 PM
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No, not necessarily. It would be all private; I kind of envision it being like chaturbate or onlyfans, except house calls instead of webcam. Basically women working for themselves and advertising themselves. The government would just be involved to ensure that there is mandatory weekly STI screenings and birth-control/condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:17 AM
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I agree, religious fundies have been holding back the US for generations now. In that case it might have to come down to a decriminalization strategy in states where they wouldn't be open to the full deal. Some states would probably be lost causes, similar to marijuana.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:15 AM
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Prostitution should absolutely be legal and easily accessible. It is, after all, the world's oldest profession. My position is "If you want to pay for it, you can have it." Sexlessness is growing for a number of reasons; social media is probably chief among them. But all evidence suggests that this generation is having the least sex of any generation in memory, and that a small percentage of people are having all the sex. People are getting very picky with who they sleep with. Easily accessible …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:29 AM
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For starters, I'm a guy. Feminism is defined as an ideology which pursues equality between men and women. This is what I believe, therefore I am by definition a feminist. To address the rest of your post, it just comes off as a big old pity party about half-baked oppression. Men absolutely face a lot of problems in society. We're often seen as creepy, we almost always get the shit end of the stick when it comes to divorce and custody battles, among a list of many other genuine issues. You also s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:15 AM
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I’m not denying anything at all, man. I’m just saying that looks aren’t the reason a lot of incel/manosphere guys don’t have success with women. If you go around with this toxic bitterness that women are no good, then that’s a much bigger hindrance than being a 4/10 looks wise. With that said, yes, looks are becoming more important, but they’re not everything. Personality still goes a long way. But for those guys who feel like they’re not attractive enough, sitting around and stewing in their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 12:53 AM
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First off, I never said all men on this sub are incels; I just said that this sub is full of incels, which there are a lot of them. Second of all, just because I think looks are becoming more important as a dating metric doesn’t mean I sympathize with bitter incels who think looks mean everything. Often these people develop very off-putting opinions and personalities, and that turns off most women, more so than their looks. I used to be kind of a bitter incel who blamed women for everything; but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 12:24 AM
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I agree with you; I think a lot of the bitterness and rage comes from the fact that there are currently no viable solutions. Looks are becoming more and more important for dating, and that means that conventionally unattractive guys are going to have hard times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:15 PM
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I consider myself a feminist, yes. I think any reasonable person who understands what the definition of feminism is, should. But how is it "bias" to scroll through this sub on a daily basis and see all the incel-esque posts and blackpill posts that manage to skirt around the rules about incel/blackpill content? If this sub was really full of "radical man-hating feminists", as you claim, surely you'd be able to see their posts everywhere; but that's right, they're not there. There are women that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:09 PM
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I absolutely agree. I think you really hit the nail on the head. I do honestly think that there is a lot of unchecked mental illness and obsessive thinking that exists in the “pill sphere”. It’s not healthy at all to obsess over gender dynamics the way people here do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:02 PM
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Is it really though? There are a handful of FDS holdovers, but the vast majority of women on here seem very understanding and helpful. Your response just seems like the old fashioned “let me twist this wording to attack the other side” when this sub clearly has far, far more bitter angry guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:56 PM
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It’s because this sub is full of bitter, unhappy incels who fully subscribe to the “burn the village to feel its warmth” ideology. There are a lot of guys here who have been hit with waves and waves of rejection, and many have never been successful. Bitterness and hatefulness lead people to develop very bizarre explanations for their problems. “Maybe my personality is off-putting and toxic” becomes “love never existed and looks are all that matter” with this mentality. A lot of people here lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:52 PM
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I think it depends entirely on the person. This is just my personal experience, so take from that what you will. But the things you listed (six figure income, well groomed, etc) are mostly the standards for upper-middle class professional women in affluent communities. I think one thing this sub often ignores is the bias that's placed on middle class/upper middle class suburbanites and their standards. All their life they've been surrounded by preppy, smart, white-bread guys. It becomes extremel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:56 PM
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Simping is eternal. Like another poster eloquently said, this model of simpage is mainly due to the fact that we now have reliable, high-speed internet. But there have always been strip-clubs, hotlines, prostitutes, escorts, call-girls, etc etc. There's always been money in the sexual market. It's just more convenient to make those transactions now. It used to be you'd have to hustle on the street for a pimp, make sure he's not working with the cops, and get your share. Or you'd have to waltz in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:19 PM
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Bob sure does put his heart and soul into those reviews though...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:12 PM
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I mean...I still do. Although I've never had any luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:17 AM
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You can't just cherrypick certain women and claim they represent everyone as a whole. Also, people can have a variety of opinions. Also, why do you talk like Ali G?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:20 PM
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I think what they're trying to point out is that you can't just broadly characterize an entire group of people as lacking some form of personality trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:27 PM
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How on earth do you make a claim like this? What evidence do you have to back this up at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:08 PM
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Very interesting. Instant gratification has become a very prominent feeling among a lot of people and it's causing a lot of mental illness I feel. I'm sure that was one hell of a dissertation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:43 PM
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Yep I agree with you. Social media has really screwed us over big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:41 PM
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The opinions I've seen on here offered by women tend to mirror the opinions of the women I know in real life. Most of the women I know are educated, mature, and pretty composed. I'm sure most would straight-up laugh in your face if you presented them with some of the arguments made by guys on this sub. All they really want is a put-together guy to bond with and love. That's the majority of women (and men). We just want a partner to be there for us. Guys here think they know women, better than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:29 PM
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Are you saying that smartphone/social media use also has become an addictive situation? Because it absolutely has. It's a rush people get from being validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:21 PM
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I actually took the time to read through your post, and it was incredibly informative. Porn doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. But it has become a drug. Like another commenter brilliantly said, the lack of economic and social stability is driving people to find means of coping. The modern dating landscape is confusing and frustrating for a lot of men. Getting a match on dating apps is nearly impossible for most guys, let alone something actually starting from it. In the US at least, mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:48 PM
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Absolutely it's isolating people; to me it's so ironic: we have the most convenient ways ever now to get connected and meet new people, and yet we're currently going through a loneliness epidemic that gets worse by the year. When I look at my dad and people his age (stereotypical "boomers"), they'll literally strike up a conversation with anyone out in public. Most of them tend to have very approachable social skills, because back in their day, you had no choice. But now, it seems like people go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:01 PM
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