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| 0 | CritiqueOh Jesus if I’d known you were one of the crazies I wouldn’t have bothered responding. (You shouldn’t creep up on us like that, it’s really not fair). The OP asked why this sub may not be taken seriously, and I gave them my honest opinion. I’m not going to comb back through hundreds of posts and comments for specific examples of misogyny when it’s really not hard fo find - firstly because I’m not your fucking librarian, and secondly because your response indicates you are one of the people with … | /r/MensRights | 14/09/21 07:28 AM |
| 0 | CritiqueNo, I’m afraid I don’t have the time to do that. Just look through the sub and you’ll see that amongst the thought-provoking posts about male genital mutilation, fathers’ custody rights, lack of mental health support for men and unequal prison sentencing, there’s also posts accusing rape victims of being liars, calling all SAHMs “parasites”, excusing sexual assault on blue balls and demanding that men should have to give consent before a woman can terminate her pregnancy. | /r/MensRights | 14/09/21 06:53 AM |
| 0 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedI actually think they are held to higher standards. Think of it this way - if someone was caught on video robbing your house then it would be a cut-and-dry case. No one question whether it was your fault because you left a window unlocked, or suggest that you must have consented to this person entering your property and stealing your belongings because you had previously invited them in. But when it’s rape, everyone looks to justify it. “She was drunk” or “she was dressed in skimpy clothes” or “… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 10:22 PM |
| 1 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedIn what world do you believe that prosecutors do not prosecute people they even have a slight amount of evidence on? Uh, the REAL world where prosecutors want the best possible chance of conviction so as not to hurt their stats, and where rape is notoriously difficult to prove? If the victim doesn’t want to testify then they won’t bother pursuing it. Obviously somebody is lying Well yes, that’s pretty obvious. In any case where a defendant submits a plea of “not guilty”, logic dictates that eith… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 10:10 PM |
| 1 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedGee, it must be tough being so stupid. You have my sympathies. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 08:12 PM |
| 4 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What Happenedinnocent until proven guilty applies Absolutely, I’m not even saying these men are guilty. I was simply pointing out that a lack of a prosecution does not mean the girl is a liar. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 08:08 PM |
| -1 | CritiqueThe reason this subreddit doesn’t get taken seriously is because there is an unfortunate minority of incels/misogynists commenting and posting here, giving the sub a bad reputation and taking the spotlight away from genuine issues facing men. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 08:06 PM |
| -1 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedSekator was charged with larceny and third-degree sexual assault earlier this year https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-rape-case-tearing-south-kingston-rhode-island-apart It indicates he has a history of sexual assault. The fact that the girl had previously had consensual sex with two of the accused is also unrelated to this alleged rape, and yet OP clearly felt it was relevant enough to mention - presumably because only strangers in dark alleys rape people? /s | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 07:36 PM |
| -2 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedSource: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wpri.com/news/local-news/south-county/3-men-accused-of-raping-unconscious-woman-on-video-face-judge/amp/ Not sure why they would send her the video. Perhaps they were taunting her, or maybe she was up for it at first and then fell unconscious so they just presumed consent and continued anyway? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 07:19 PM |
| 1 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedI’m not a feminist but… I don’t support rape? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 02:08 PM |
| -2 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedI can’t tell if you’re being facetious. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 02:07 PM |
| -2 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What Happenedand yet the judge acquitted them due to “insufficiently credible and reliable evidence” …because the victim will no longer testify. Her testimony is the “evidence” they’re referring to. The restraining order against them still stands. Oh, and one of the perpetrators is also facing an unrelated sexual assault charge. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 02:05 PM |
| -15 | When the Female "Rape Victim" Changes Her Mind of What HappenedBruh, they recorded themselves raping her while she was unconscious… that’s why she didn’t “become aware of the details” until later, when one of them sent her clips from the video. Testifying in court is traumatic for rape victims and plenty decide they cannot cope with the aggressive scrutiny they will face from the defence counsel. It doesn’t mean the victim was lying when they initially reported the crime. We all agree that false rape accusers should be punished but this is a terrible exampl… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/21 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Boy gropes girl at school. What should the consequences be?According to the post, there were multiple witnesses to the assault. His guilt isn’t really in doubt. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Boy gropes girl at school. What should the consequences be?Are you really trying to defend sexual assault on the basis of “blue balls”? 15-17 year olds know the difference between right and wrong, and groping another person is wrong. Expulsion is not an adequate punishment for a criminal act. You’re right that teenagers shouldn’t get a criminal record - but if they commit a serious offence, then it’s unavoidable. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Should birth control be bought with proof and a waiver to prevent lying?No, because birth control isn’t infallible. Yes there are some dishonest women who lie about taking the pill and get pregnant on purpose, but there are many more women who fall pregnant by accident. It wouldn’t be fair to punish those children by denying them child support. Tip - if you don’t want to have a baby or pay child support, take responsibility for your own fertility. Wear a condom or get a vasectomy. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Boy gropes girl at school. What should the consequences be?That would be for a jury to decide, not you. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 06:09 PM |
| 7 | Boy gropes girl at school. What should the consequences be?The perpetrator in this case was somewhere between 15-17 years old, so not exactly a child. It’s usually quite obvious when someone accidentally touches you (they get embarrassed/flustered, blush, apologise immediately, back away, etc.) vs. a deliberate sexual assault. I’d be appalled if my son or daughter was groped in class but the school/police suggested waiting to punish them until they’d done it a few more times! | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 01:08 PM |
| 11 | Boy gropes girl at school. What should the consequences be?No, you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/21 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Any other pro-choice guys out there hear, "My body, my choice" and think it's a poor slogan since it implies the father is irrelevant?But the father is kind of irrelevant in the decision... so the slogan ain’t wrong. Obviously the ideal is for the couple to agree on a course of action, but where that doesn’t happen, it’s ultimately the woman’s choice whether to continue with the pregnancy since she’s who has to carry and birth the child. It absolutely sucks for those men who want to be fathers and have that option taken away from them, but the situation cannot be dealt with any other way without infringing on the basic human r… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Any other pro-choice guys out there hear, "My body, my choice" and think it's a poor slogan since it implies the father is irrelevant?I thought the point you were making is that men should have the option of legal abortion (i.e. that they can opt out of parental responsibility) rather than having a say in whether a woman can abort? I support the former argument but not the latter. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/21 01:05 PM |
| 2 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.But we can surely mitigate that by equalizing things in law. No, we can’t equalize things because the acts of pregnancy and birth cannot be shared equally between the sexes. Women who get pregnant have to give up cigarettes, alcohol, and caffeine, plus varieties of meat, fish, cheese, and egg. They are banned from taking certain medications, including ones to treat existing medical conditions. They have to buy new clothes to accommodate their changing body, more food to nourish the growing fetus… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 08:36 AM |
| 7 | Texas passes fetal heart beat bill. In a twist that might make it more men's rights than not enforcement is left to private citizens including I'd suppose biological fathers rather than government officials. It also seems to be civil and not criminal.Dude, what are you on? Until they figure out how to grow babies in test tubes, the situation can never be equal. Forcing a person to physically carry another human being against their will is sick. Adoption doesn’t take away from the personal sacrifice and medical risk/trauma of growing a child for 9 months and then giving birth. You can support ‘legal abortion’ for men without condoning this barbaric bill. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/21 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?And what about stay at home dads? Are they “parasites” too? Or is that different because they have a penis? Women have deselected you as a partner because you are a repulsive misogynist. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/21 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?I defend couples choosing the set up that works best for them without one of them being labelled a “parasite”. You are a backwards moron. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/21 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Liar. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Omg stop gaslighting me you lying tradcon 😭 | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?And he’s still going! ✅ | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Either you’ve deliberately twisted my words or you’re an idiot who can’t understand plain English. Confirmed. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Yes I realise that most incels hold traditionalist and conservative views. We weren’t debating whether incels are “tradcon”, we were talking about feminists. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 12:17 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Thanks for clarifying that I was correct on both accounts. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 12:13 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Either you’ve deliberately twisted my words or you’re an idiot who can’t understand plain English. I’m not pro SAHMs - I’m just open to many different family set ups, which is literally the exact opposite to traditionalist and conservative. Personally I wouldn’t choose to be a SAHM but I’m not arrogant enough to think that my own beliefs/experiences are the same as everyone else’s. People have to decide what’s best for their own families and if that means having one parent (mother or father) giv… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/21 09:32 AM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?…cos the face ain’t listening?! 😂😂😂 | /r/MensRights | 24/08/21 08:53 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Lol, I’ve just provided you with an official source that PROVES I’m not lying and all you can say is “Don’t talk to me!!” like you’re still in kindergarten 😂 P.S. you should add “gaslighting” to your list of words to look up in the dictionary. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/21 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?I’m hostile to being called a “tradcon” woman because I don’t hold traditionalist or conservative views, simple as that. No one here has yet been able to offer up any evidence to the contrary - in fact, everyone has conveniently ignored it when I’ve pointed out that I wouldn’t choose to be a SAHM - and instead continued to use this as an insult because they either can’t be bothered or genuinely don’t know how to have a constructive argument. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 02:25 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Women are not willing to reverse the roles That right there is a “bold-faced lie”. Many women are willing to reverse the roles. I’m a woman and I’m willing to reverse the roles. Stop lumping all women in together as we if we have a hive mind. We are individuals. so you are bold face lying Why do you so many of you in this sub struggle with the concept of a “lie”? Seriously, look in a dictionary! A statement based on experience or opinion doesn’t become a lie just because you disagree with it. Me… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 02:19 PM |
| -1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Cool do you have a source for that completely made up percentage? I don’t need your consent to call you an incel. Someone using racial slurs is a racist, whether they accept the label or not. Someone using incel slurs is an incel. Pretty simple. Trad con females are not the same as feminists. I am not anti male or peddling “anti male narratives”. I’m an equalist who won’t accept misogynist ideology. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 01:52 PM |
| -2 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Literally google “tradcon” and Incel Wiki is the third or fourth result. I’ve already explained to you that “lying” and “difference of opinion” are not the same thing. I’m sorry you haven’t been able to grasp that. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 01:20 PM |
| -2 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?1) “Tradcon” is a slur commonly used by incels. If you’re not an incel then don’t use incel terminology. 2) How exactly am I playing the victim? I am not even part of this scenario - I work full-time with zero intention of ever being a SAHM. 3) Absolutely nothing I have said is a lie. Holding a different opinion to someone else is not “lying”. 4) I’ve already clarified that I don’t want to be a SAHM, and your use of the term “parasite” confirms that you are an incel. No one is forcing men to “ea… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 12:47 PM |
| -4 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Oooh someone’s late to the party! I’m not traditionalist or conservative, but I understand that incels are offered triggered by women having an opinion. Go lie down in a dark room | /r/MensRights | 23/08/21 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Thanks for the links and summaries. I don’t have time to read them all now but I will do at some point. (FYI, though, you’ve still included that one about STEM which I know was debunked, so perhaps remove that from your list). I’m the letter writing type Ok, and how many letters have you written in support of women’s rights? Feminists who say they care about men should actually do something about it. I care about a lot of causes, not just equality of the sexes but also the LGBT community, racism… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Every couple that I know with a stay at home parent chose their family set up because it made sense for them financially - if the lowest earning parent doesn’t earn more than the cost of childcare, what is the point in both parents working and paying for a stranger to look after their children? Your insistence that the arrangement is always enforced on the man, never a joint decision, or even one sometimes enforced on the woman (as was standard practice until half a century ago) is pathetic self… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Do you know about the “gender equality paradox”? It’s the fact that less patriarchal/more gender equality countries have bigger gender differences than less gender equal countries. It’s a theory, not a fact, because it hasn’t been proven. You didn’t provide a source but it sounds like you’re referring to the study by Gijsbert Stoet and David Geary which Harvard researchers were unable to recreate? Their paper was debunked in 2019. I do, however, agree with you that women should not be given more… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Lol, well I just did and it’s 2021. Not sure if it had the same meaning in 1985 (I wasn’t alive then) but I just meant I’m a young woman who wants to focus on my career and work my way up, aka I’m not in a “dead end” job. As I’ve repeated a number of times in this sub, I do not think being a SAHM is the hardest job in the world, so not sure why you’ve put that in quote marks. I agree it would be boring which is why I just said that I have no intention of ever being a SAHM. My no.1 point is that … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 06:09 AM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?That did make me chuckle. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Yeah it sucks. I’m in the UK which should count as developed country but we’re really bad at providing good-quality, affordable childcare to those who need it. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 03:48 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Nope, I’m a young career woman with no intention of ever being a SAHM when I have kids. I’d be open to the idea of my partner being a stay at home father if he wanted to, though I doubt he will. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?I don’t disagree with your statement at all. I was just listing the responsibilities of a SAHM to refute the commenter who said they have “8 free hours a day”. It depends on so many things - the size of the house, the number of children, the distance to the school and supermarket, how elaborate the meals are, etc. but I imagine most SAHMs have at least a couple of free hours each day. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?You’ve said it yourself - it has to be a joint decision, because if the breadwinner doesn’t agree to support their partner financially while they stay at home, then they can’t. Better to file for divorce while the child is young than to stay in a relationship with someone who doesn’t respect you and raise the child with festering resentment. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?I absolutely agree - having one parent stay at home with the children is a luxury these days that few can afford. I was just making the point that choosing this family set up is a joint decision, so it’s not fair to treat the SAHM like a “parasite” and expect her to live in poverty after a divorce. Any job that the wife can get after a 20-year employment gap is going to pay much less than the career her husband has forged while she’s been looking after his home and children. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?School exists to educate children, not to babysit them, and doesn’t cover anywhere near the number of hours most people are expected to work. Where I live, school starts at 8.45am and ends at 3.15pm. There are no buses so parents/guardians must drop young children off themselves. Let’s say a parent has a 1 hour commute, that means they won’t be able to start work until 9.45am and would have to leave by 2.15pm. That’s 4h 15mins a day that they’re actually available for work. Also, you have to thi… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:40 PM |
| -1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Jesus. Are you being serious? A housewife is not doing her husband a favour by cooking and cleaning for him. She is assuming all the household responsibilities that would otherwise be shared equally between them, or paid for jointly. Unless the husband has forced the woman to stay at home, it’s her choice. So in your mind, couples never make decisions together? It is always one person’s choice or the other’s, never both? If that’s the case then I feel sorry for you and for any partner you may ha… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:22 PM |
| -2 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Speaking up does what legally? I mean “speaking up” to your partner, not a lawyer. Old-fashioned communication. If a couple disagrees about something, then they discuss it like adults. And if they ultimately can’t come to an agreement, then they end the relationship. You’d hope that people would discuss important things like finances and family set up before getting married and having children, but many don’t, or one partner changes their mind after the fact. It isn’t ideal but it’s better for t… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:17 PM |
| -2 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Why do you act like it’s so aggressive to be a SAHM? I don’t understand your comment. I haven’t said anything about aggression. I’ve witnessed SAHM’s - seen a bund of laying around, shouting at their kids from across the room and feeding them processed foods Ah well, if that’s what you have personally witnessed then that must be what all SAHMs are like! /s You act like it’s so hard, it’s not, a lot of the time. I’m not acting like it’s hard. I simply listed the common responsibilities of a SAHM … | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Can you provide a source for these figures? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?“Patriarchy” is not a pet name. It’s the proper term for a real system that has oppressed people for thousands of years. You’re focusing too much on the term’s Latin roots and getting defensive about it, and you know why that is? Because people think “patriarchy” is good for men. It’s not. It oppresses men as well as women - I’ve already listed examples in my above comment. When people call out the “patriarchy” they are calling out the system, not blaming men themselves. So yeah, we’re in agreem… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 01:58 PM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?When I say “patriarchy” I mean the system of society in which men hold the power. It is the system that has been dominant in our societies and governments for thousands of years, but is gradually being disassembled so that power is shared more equally between the two sexes. ‘Feminists’ encompass a large group of people. The vast majority of feminists don’t voice their opinions loudly on TV or social media, so you’re less aware of them. As with any belief/movement, you do get extremists, but they… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?You say “men aren’t in power” like it’s a bad thing. Neither sex should have more power than the other; we should be equals. The patriarchy is slowly being disassembled and ultimately that’s a good thing for everyone, but in the meantime, there are ‘leftover effects’ from the old system which now disadvantage men - like some of the points I mentioned above. Women often have power over men in a multitude of ways Can you explain what you mean by this and provide examples? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?The longer you stay in a marriage, the more alimony you’re ultimately on the hook for. Don’t stay with someone who doesn’t treat you with respect - you’re just delaying the problems until further down the line. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:57 AM |
| 0 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?It says he’s 20k behind on payments that doesn’t necessarily mean he can’t pay it. We have no idea how much he earns or what he spends it on. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:54 AM |
| -2 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?How is $150 a week “taking it all”? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?I’m not arguing in favour of SAHMs. Personally, I enjoy working and wouldn’t give up my career to be a homemaker. I’m just pointing out that it’s not possible for a parent to give up work without the financial support of the breadwinner, and that’s why it’s not right for them to turn around after 20 years of marriage and say “it’s not fair you stayed at home and looked after the kids while I had to go to the office every day, and now you’re going to get nothing for your contribution to our famil… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:46 AM |
| -3 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Why did you stay with her then? That doesn’t sound like much of a partnership. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:41 AM |
| -51 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Some guys want to blame the system Yup and the saddest thing is, the system is called the PATRIARCHY. Some men dislike feminism because they think it oppresses them, but they don’t realise that the patriarchy oppresses them more! Patriarchy is responsible for the gender roles which encourage men to work all day and women to stay at home cooking and cleaning. Patriarchy is responsible for idolising motherhood and making women the sole caretakers of children, which is why mothers are favoured in c… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 11:09 AM |
| -3 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Most people don’t have “careers”. He’s an electrician, what’s his “career” that he’s “advancing in”? Most couples who can afford to have one parent stay at home these days have ‘career’ jobs with advancement potential. It’s just not feasible anymore for someone on a below average salary to support a stay-at-home parent and multiple children. Having said that, being an electrician is counted as skilled labour in most of the world - where I live, an experienced electrician can earn more than many … | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 10:52 AM |
| -9 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?The decision for one parent to give up their career and become a homemaker is made jointly, as a couple, usually for financial and logistical reasons that benefit the entire family unit. By agreeing to this set up, the breadwinner commits to the ‘daily grind’ but gets round-the-clock childcare and a much lighter load of household chores, and the freedom to pursue their own career. If the breadwinner does not like this set up, the time to say so is before getting married and having children, or e… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 10:27 AM |
| -13 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Firstly, we simply don’t have enough information about the family on which to base your assumption. Maybe they had their kids years apart so there was always at least 1 child at home… maybe she home schooled… maybe she was helping to care for elderly relatives… we just don’t know. Secondly, it is ludicrous to say that SAHMs have “8 free hours a day”. They’re ferrying children to school and extra-curricular activities, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, grocery shopping, meal planning and prepping… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 10:00 AM |
| 4 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?Absolutely, the point of alimony should be that the breadwinner’s wealth is fairly shared. If the breadwinner (the husband in this scenario) doesn’t have enough to pay his ex the court-mandated amount, then the arrangement should be re-assessed. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 09:22 AM |
| -24 | Woman spends 20+ years as a SAHM, after divorce is 'owed' a $150 per week 'maintenance' payment from ex husband for life. Is now upset he isn't paying due to employment issues. Can someone ELI5 how and why you can be obligated to financially support another capable adult for life?If she was a SAHM for 20+ years then she sacrificed the possibility of a career to raise their children, saving them thousands of dollars in childcare and allowing her husband the opportunity to advance in his career for the benefit of their family. You believe that this contribution amounts to nothing and the wife should live in poverty because they got divorced? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 08:45 AM |
| -2 | How can I function in this societyI can’t really see how this correlated with men’s rights. I’m a woman and I know plenty of men with similar education to me that earn way more, seemingly without having to work very hard for it - that doesn’t necessarily mean I’ve been discriminated against on the basis of my sex, or that I’m lacking in any rights. Don’t fixate on gender politics when there are so many other factors in play - wealth, nepotism, and even sheer dumb luck, to name a few. Now for some practical advice. You’re still y… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/21 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Girls outperform boys every year. Yet, nothing is done. Conclusion? Girls just smarter.The method of teaching where children are expected to sit still for long periods of time, listening to the teacher without fidgeting or losing interest, is the traditional method which has been around since long before women were allowed an education. Therefore arguing that it is “tailored for girls/women” is flawed. (It may suit girls/women more, but that’s not the same thing as being tailored for them). It’s hardly the fault of girls/women if they outperform boys/men in the environment which w… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Girls outperform boys every year. Yet, nothing is done. Conclusion? Girls just smarter.Can you elaborate on these teaching styles? What is the “way girls learn”? British studies indicate that boys actually perform better academically in mixed sex schools. This is in contrast to girls, who attain better academic outcomes in single sex learning environments. Do schools affect girls’ and boys’ reading performance differently? A multilevel study on the gendered effects of school resources and school practices | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Girls outperform boys every year. Yet, nothing is done. Conclusion? Girls just smarter.Even ignoring the issues with IQ testing… Excelling in education is not just about intelligence. It requires hard work, maturity and motivation. A boy might have 4.6 IQ points more than his female classmate but if she concentrates more in class, spends more time revising and has clearer goals for university/career, then she will most likely achieve better grades than her male counterpart. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/21 07:07 AM |
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