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| 1 | If women are allowed to hide their plastic surgery from men in the early stages of the relationship, then men who are dating casually should also be allowed to hide their dating intentions in the early stages.What does it matter if you wouldn't have dated them before the work though? If they don't currently look like that and won't again, then the person you're dating is still attractive to you. And honestly it's bizarre to say you'd want specific traits to be passed on to your children. Firstly because you don't really know what will be passed on (e.g. my son's father and I both have brown eyes, son has bright blue eyes. My cousin has super curly hair but nobody else in the family does. Lots of attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 06:57 AM |
| 2 | Women do you want your partners to do this ?I always go splits on a first date - but also I wouldn't be going out for a lavish dinner as a first date, more a coffee or a drink. If a guy wants to buy me dinner once we've got to know each other a bit then that's lovely and very appreciated but not something I expect or demand. Flowers every week - no. It was my birthday recently and three people gave me flowers; they're all still looking healthy in their vases a couple of weeks later. I don't know what I'd do with all the flowers other than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Do you know any younger, never-married single mothers? If so, how is their dating life?I became a single mother at 22. Honestly it didn't seem to impact my dating life much - I got into a 6-year relationship about 2 years after, then a 3-year one after that, had a few 6-12 month ones outside of those. It's never seemed to be an issue for me to meet people who 'take me seriously', and the men I've been with have been exactly the type of person I'd have gone for regardless of whether I had a child. They ended for a variety of reasons, none related to me being a mum though, and gener… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 01:13 PM |
| 4 | Normalize saying you have a big vagina instead of "size queen"How would someone's weight affect it? Do you believe fat men have really girthy dicks too? 😅 But also just as tall men can have small penises and short men can have large ones, height isn't a good predictor of vaginal depth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I'm not watering the word down by saying that it is rape if you fuck someone who has told you to stop fucking them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Even if blue balls are a thing, that isn't any sort of justification for continuing to fuck someone who doesn't want you to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.It's a really weird look to be trying to find loopholes that justify rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 05:49 AM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.There isn't a grey area. If someone tells you to stop fucking them, and you continue going, that is rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.On what planet would it not be rape if you continued to fuck someone who wants you to stop?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Paternity Testing - Rehashing a ClassicI don't think it would be a problem, and I agree that it would be fair. I said myself that I wouldn't be opposed to my partner getting one for their own peace of mind, and don't see why women would be bothered by it being a mandatory thing for everyone (rather than their partner specifically wanting one) unless they actively intended to cheat and lie about paternity. My point was that it's unlikely to actually garner wide support because there are just as many shit men who'd oppose it as there a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Prostitution should be legalizedAlso this isn't comparable to a 9-5 job when we're speaking specifically about whether using an escort would help someone to feel less rejected. My central point here is that if someone is frustrated that they're undesirable, it's unlikely to benefit them to have to resort to paying to use the body of a woman that definitely wouldn't choose to have sex with them. There is no useful way to try to compare that to an office job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/24 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Prostitution should be legalizedI'm not thinking in black and white. I'm saying that I cannot understand why someone who is undesirable would feel better if they had to pay someone to fuck them. I do not see how someone that is rejected by women and peers is going to feel like less of a reject by paying to access the body of a woman who doesn't desire them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/24 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Prostitution should be legalizedEscorts aren't really willing participants though. The whole deal there is that you know for certain that they wouldn't go near you if you weren't paying them, and that you only get to use their body because of the financial reward. Lots of men don't care and just want to nut in someone, but I can't see how it would help with self-esteem issues to pay for someone to fuck you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/24 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Paternity Testing - Rehashing a ClassicI feel like an overlooked point here is that a lot of men stand to lose out in a situation where paternity testing is mandatory. All those babies that are born through a woman being unfaithful still have a biological father, and mandatory testing would reveal those men and force them to step up (because in order to mandate it, you'd kind of have to look at who IS the father, rather than just who isn't - plus women who are caught out are likely to go after the actual father for financial support … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/24 09:21 AM |
| 4 | Prostitution should be legalizedHow does having sex with a woman who wouldn't touch you with a bargepole if you weren't paying her help with being disliked by women and peers? Would you not feel like even more of a giant loser after having to pay someone to touch you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/24 08:38 AM |
| 1 | rejection and datingCharisma, presence, sense of humour, charm, wit, etc. Most of the men that I've been head over heels for haven't been super rich or successful or classically good looking. But their overall personality and vibes made me melt. Wealthy or tall or high-achieving are nice qualities I guess, but personally and for all the other women I know, it comes down to how you click with someone. So yeah, a guy who's great on paper but a bit bland IRL probably won't do too well. | /r/RedPillWomen | 05/10/24 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Women's "double burden" and "second shift" is a hoax - and data disprove itDepends. If a man or a woman just wants to hook up then yeah of course they're better off being FWB. If they want a relationship then obviously they'll be unhappy just being FWB. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/24 07:39 AM |
| 6 | Women's "double burden" and "second shift" is a hoax - and data disprove itOr it's because she doesn't have to do emotional labour for someone who's just a FWB or an ONS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Women's "double burden" and "second shift" is a hoax - and data disprove itMy vacuum is 14 years old and also hasn't ever had any issues - and isn't a struggle to move around in any way whatsoever. While a washing machine spin cycle doesn't get all water out, it doesn't leave a blanket so impossibly heavy that I as an able-bodied woman struggle to carry it. I've never owned a dryer - everything I wash gets hung to dry. I live in a multi-dog household (additionally have had cats, rats, parrots and rabbits over the years), as well as having dealt with the messes toddlers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:09 PM |
| 4 | Women's "double burden" and "second shift" is a hoax - and data disprove itThe fuck kind of machinery do you have at your house?! My (very efficient) vacuum isn't in any way laborious to move around, and my washing machine doesn't leave clothes heavy and water laden because it has a functioning spin cycle. Nobody who isn't disabled/injured/elderly, even if they have relatively low fitness/strength, is struggling to carry a basket of damp laundry from room to room. And no, with correct cleaning products and techniques it doesn't take a strenuous amount of scrubbing to g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Women's "double burden" and "second shift" is a hoax - and data disprove itStrength and fitness doesn't make you faster at any of those things? You can't speed your way through vacuuming because then you won't be vacuuming efficiently, folding and putting away laundry doesn't rely on stamina or fitness... At BEST maybe you shave a few seconds off by walking more quickly when carrying a basket from one room to the other, but it's hardly like the weak, feeble women are taking hours to stagger under the weight of the clothes they're transporting from one part of the house… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 12:56 PM |
| 1 | To be successful at a SOCIAL interaction with another human (a.k.a. dating / relationship), SOCIAL skills are the most important thing. This is as obvious as the sky is blue, yet some people on this sub keep doubling / tripling down on the desperate lie that social skills are irrelevant.Most of the married comedians I can think of got married way before they were successful. Off the top of my head from the UK ones, Alex Horne, Josh Widdecombe, Rob Beckett, Nish Kumar, Romesh Ranganathan, Mark Watson... All men who aren't traditionally good-looking but married while they were still newcomers on the circuit or before even starting careers in comedy. And then lots of the ones who aren't married managed to get around a lot before they found fame too. Very much not about status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.It absolutely means that. His type, in terms of physical appearance, was someone with blonde hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:07 PM |
| 27 | Why are girls misleading on what tinder profiles are attractiveNah look at his other recent post - he asked her to set it up because he was feeling insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 12:32 PM |
| 1 | How often do women prioritize chemistry over money and status?How is it 'more politically correct'? To me chemistry isn't just about attraction - I've met some very good looking men who were exactly my type, but just didn't feel that 'spark' that I'd consider to be chemistry when we got talking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:15 AM |
| 13 | What would be the downsides if men believed that women are barely capable of romantic love?What do you believe that link demonstrates? I've just read the whole study and I can't find a single sentence in it that would suggest that "women are far less likely to love men than men are to genuinely love and care for women", so I'm not sure if you've actually read what you're posting? Which is weird, because even the abstract doesn't support what you're saying! The study actually shows that there aren't any statistically significant differences in what each gender is attracted to, but also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 08:04 AM |
| 2 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionBut if the man wanted to keep it and didn't want to have it put up for adoption then the woman would be on the hook for child support. That is equality. The decision about whether or not to go through with childbirth and pregnancy is, obviously, one that only a woman can make. The decision about supporting a child that has been born actually is really equal - if both parents want to put it up for adoption then they can sign away parental rights. If just one parent doesn't want to be involved in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:36 PM |
| 2 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionThey're only allowed to do that if both parents want to 'have a financial abortion'. A woman can't put a child up for adoption if the father wants to raise them. It's either neither or both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:29 PM |
| 3 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionThere are approximately 3.75 million babies born in the USA each year. So about 8,000 cryptic pregnancies every year. Statistically uncommon, but still quite a lot, and I'm skeptical that a higher number of pregnancies than that are the result of sneaky women lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 03:03 PM |
| 3 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionThere aren't masses of symptoms at 26 weeks (6 months). When I was pregnant I didn't have a noticeable bump until I the last few weeks - just looked bloated! He was back-to-back for most of it which often makes the bump appear smaller. And if you're someone prone to bloating or weight fluctuation, your belly growing wouldn't necessarily trigger alarm bells that early. Kicking feels INCREDIBLY similar to muscles twitching in your abdomen until the baby is more developed - it's common for first ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 02:51 PM |
| 6 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionIt's definitely not a completely different conversation. It's totally relevant to note that in these situations, the man who doesn't want to be faced with any responsibility for a child has taken no steps to avoid creating one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 01:54 PM |
| 7 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionIt's safer than hormonal birth control is for women, and comes with fewer risks of damaging the ability to have children in the future. Do you also think it's moronic for women to use birth control? I think each party should do what they can to avoid pregnancy. The options come with risks and downsides for both parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 01:23 PM |
| 7 | "Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortionVasectomies don't have any real side effects, and also don't stop a man producing sperm. It's a quick outpatient procedure with minimal recovery time, minimal risk of complications, and in cases where a reversal isn't possible men can still have sperm extracted (getting pregnant this way actually has higher success rates than naturally conceiving). Suggesting that men do that if they consider it unacceptable to be asked to pay child support in the event they got someone pregnant is hardly 'turbo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 12:49 PM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Generally bars or gatherings with friends. I've always been broadly part of the alternative music seen where I live, so have developed quite a wide social network through gigs and things. Also have made friends with people and regularly get chatting to new people walking my dogs! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 08:56 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I'd say it's usually become apparent we're into each other by the first or second time we meet, don't think it's ever taken more than a week or two before a first kiss (but often sooner than that). So not a friendship first really; more like realising you connect really well with someone over the course of a few conversations. So not making friends with someone because you think they're attractive, but getting to know people in general and you might click with someone. Essentially it's the early… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 08:13 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Naturally. So like, rather than thinking someone is hot and trying to ask for their number, you get chatting because for example you're all at a table together for a friend's gathering and you connect with each other that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.No, you're ignoring what I'm saying. I have repeatedly asked you if you have ever made a friend, and you're refusing to answer that. So I'm guessing no? Because I cannot see how you can possibly think that meeting someone a couple of times and getting on with them "sounds a lot like a friend". Do you seriously not understand the difference between an acquaintance and a friend? I also keep saying that NO, there often ISN'T sexual chemistry the moment you lay eyes on someone, but you feel a spark … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.But they clearly don't think that if they still go for it with men who aren't their ideal physical type, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Actually have been thinking about this more than I should, but WHAT is the correct way to act then? You're implying that it's bad to give a guy a shot even if you weren't initially attracted to him. But I'm also constantly told that it's bad to only care about looks. Curious to understand what you think is correct? If it's bad to develop feelings for someone you weren't initially attracted to, but also bad to only care about attraction, help me understand how I'm meant to act? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Not delighted, but like... Fine with it. Didn't think they were ugly in any way whatsoever, just not really the type that I generally went for. Same as how it wasn't really a big deal that one of my exes had historically been into blondes but got with me (a brunette). Hardly a big deal to learn that you don't meet every single one of someone's preferences 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 12:50 PM |
| -2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.No vitriol. The emoji is someone shrugging and putting their hands up to say 'I don't know'. And what I said wasn't "ALL MEN WHO ARE FRIENDS WITH GIRLS DO WELL". It was that in my experience MOST men that I personally am friends with who have good platonic relationships with women often have better romantic success than men who don't. Almost like you're seeking out reasons to get angry! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 12:41 PM |
| -1 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.I didn't say it was always true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 09:07 AM |
| 0 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.I don't even know why he's arguing with me though. Note that I did't even say none of the men I know with female friends struggle with women, nor did I say they always have success. I just said they often do better - and the person I was replying to said most not ALL 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Do you really just sit on Reddit copying and pasting sentences all day? It's so weird 😂 Go and look up the definition of a warm approach. I am not the one who is misrepresenting it - you wang on about 'wanting proof' but you're not in any way backing up why your belief of what a warm approach means is different to literally everyone else who's ever used that phrase. When people talk about a warm approach, they mean establishing some sort of rapport to suss out whether there's mutual attraction, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.No, I didn't make it sound like hitting on a friend. Asking you again: have you ever made a friend? Because it's highly unusual for someone to be unable to differentiate between someone you meet a couple of times and get on with and a friend. I'm not the one misrepresenting what a warm approach is. I'm not sure where you've got your interpretation from, but do me a favour and hop on Google and look it up - even do a search in this subreddit for the phrase. You don't understand what a warm vs col… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 05:50 PM |
| -3 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.They're my friends. They talk to me about what's going on in their lives, I offer a shoulder to cry on if they are going through shit, I also can observe them doing well with women. I don't really need to make assumptions about my friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 04:58 PM |
| 1 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.Same. Almost none of my male friends have had any major issues meeting women. In my experience, men who are able to form and maintain friendships with women are often the ones who do best romantically 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I haven't run out of arguments; I've made one argument, repeatedly, and that is that hitting on your friends is not what people mean when they talk about a "warm approach". And yes, the 'touch grass' thing is tiresome but in this case I genuinely feel like you haven't had much experience of normal social interactions? Like, saying that getting to know someone a bit or establishing some common ground is "exactly the same as a friend"... Without meaning to be rude, have you ever made a friend? If … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.My dude, I implore you to go out and explore the world. It's the opposite of shocking that men who get no luck take the time to dissect and argue with people who describe common and normal ways to meet people. The anger and the resentment is boring tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.No, there aren't statistics or quantitative data sets on how relationships form. Like really, there aren't. What is available is results from surveying men about their success rates from various methods but no, there does not seem to exist any substantial evidence or research around how most people meet. So, if we're on a topic that relies on personal experience, then it will remain relevant when people talk about their own personal experiences. Feeling attracted to someone doesn't equal a cold-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 04:17 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Those are entirely based on personal experiences 😂 It's all things people have shared experiences with. I often qualify my own experiences by saying that it has been a shared experience with all the other women I know, but people argue with that too, so it's less tiresome to just speak from my personal experience as a woman. There AREN'T statistics or quantifiable facts on this, and the people disagreeing with Red Pill ideas are ALSO people "telling their stories and concluding on averages". It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:03 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.No, you're missing the point. A warm approach IS NOT HITTING ON YOUR FRIENDS. What it means is, rather than asking someone out without knowing them at all, you establish a connection and suss out how you feel about each other. If you don't feel any sexual chemistry from the get go, don't hit on them. If you do, then keep it going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:54 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Personal anecdotes are relevant because the entire topic is about personal experiences and opinions. The whole "red pill" community is people who have shared experiences and observations, and the people disagreeing with them disagree based on their own experiences and observations. No, he didn't 'become my friend before taking it further". What happens is that two people meet organically, get to know each other, and mutually feel attracted to each other. And getting on well with someone isn't a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:50 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.A warm approach just means meeting someone naturally rather than hitting on a stranger. It doesn't mean pretending to be friends with someone in order to bang them, nor does it mean trying to sleep with your existing friends. Normal people don't "confess feelings" - you meet, you like each other, you flirt with each other, you spend time together, at some point you kiss, at some point you talk about officially becoming a couple... If you feel the need to "'confess" that you like someone then you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 11:09 AM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I have not gone out with anybody who has out of the blue announced they have feelings for me. I have gone out with people where I've got on brilliantly with them after meeting though friends and had relationships develop from there. That is not a fallacy. It is hurtful to find that a 'friend' has had an ulterior motive the whole time, then stops speaking to you if you don't feel the same. I don't use my friends as resources. I also haven't "vilified" anyone who's done this to me, I've just felt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 11:00 AM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Well yeah, you don't become friends just to try to get in someone's pants. Warm approaching is more about getting to know someone a bit and gauging interest first. Like, all my previous partners have been people I've met through mutual friends and hit it off with, mutually flirted with, and relationships have developed organically. It hasn't been men pretending to be my friend then turning round and asking me out or announcing their feelings out of the blue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I mean they did say that, and the whole reason it's divisive is that some people can understand what was meant and some can't. Absolutely could have been phrased in a better way, but it's not a difficult stretch to recognise what was meant, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?They'll give more time to attractive men, obviously. But if they're saying they've always thought of someone as marriage material and never thought of them as just a casual thing, where's the insult? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No. But I think a man whose qualities include but aren't limited to being attractive have women designating them as marriage material at a much higher rate than men who are just attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I don't know any attractive men with attractive personalities who struggle to get into a relationship when they want one. I do know quite a few ugly dudes who are brimming with charisma who do quite well with casual sex but can't hold down a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 05:42 PM |
| – | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No? I'm saying that it's a positive thing that she knew from the start she didn't just want to fuckzone him and saw a future with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It very much isn't, unless you think the only thing a man wants from a woman is sex, and that it's something she 'gives to' men rather than participates in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 04:42 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Doubtful of that. Contrary to what people say on this subreddit, the bulk of couples do in fact actually really like each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 07:05 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Would they really rather that though? All the men I know IRL, and most of the ones I've spoken to online, actually do seem to really want companionship. Can't think of any men older than mid-twenties who just want to shag around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No, I'm saying that she is probably very attracted to her partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?My dude. Obtain a mirror. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No. I wouldn't have sex with anyone I believed to be "ugly" whether i wanted them for the long haul or just a night (but I don't tend to chase after classic good looks either way - I've been physically attracted to lots of men who wouldn't fall into the narrow category of "chads" that people picture). I would have, and have had sex with men who I wouldn't want to spend the day with or build a life with or introduce to my family. Sometimes men are hot and good in bed but dumb as rocks, or just ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?She said she wanted him for marriage, not a hookup. I think you're the one reframing it tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:50 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Yeah definitely it's unlikely to be the sole factor in them breaking up. Lots of possible things she might have done, lots of possible issues on his end too tbf though (some men, for whatever reasons, are spectacularly insecure and react explosively over small things). Can't speculate without more context though - maybe she's been an asshole before this, maybe he has. All we're commenting on is the sentence she said, which I still don't think sounds all that bad. "I knew from the start I wanted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Yeah, she didn't phrase it perfectly. But actually having a few drinks before, if anything, makes it less of a biggie. I know people like to say that alcohol reveals the truth, but what it actually does is makes people messy and less capable of thinking clearly. I've certainly said some VERY silly things after a few drinks that were completely nonsensical, I've also said some things rooted in truth that I've phrased SO SO badly. The fact that a drunk person said something with good intentions an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No, I actually do completely understand the underlying context of why and how women choose/categorise men. Like I'm a fucking expert at it tbh. I think your rigid and unrealistic ideas of how women see you is a you issue, not something where women simply can't understand why they don't like certain men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:22 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Respectfully, can I just check if there's a medical reason for you to be struggling so much to understand this? She didn't say that they'e not having sex. She didn't even imply that. She did, however, say at the start that she wanted him not just for sex but for more than that. Are you high or feverish or something? I just can't work out how you've fabricated the idea that she's never touched him 😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?She isn't my sister. I don't blindly support or feel an affinity to what women do or say. It's just very VERY clear that in this situation, she was trying to express that she saw him as MORE THAN just a casual fling, and it is bonkers to get upset about what she said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I'm not straining a single fibre in my body. I simply can understand what she was trying to say. Did she phrase it clunkily? Yeah, probably! Is it easy to understand what she was trying to say regardless of that? YES to any sensible person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:10 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It sounds like she phrased it badly for sure. However, I think that if she's then explained what she actually meant and he's still being weird about it, then that's a communication issue between them. At face value I think it's quite easy to interpret what she meant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No the fuck they don't 😂 Have you ever met a woman?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?You are saying that men she is attracted to don't want to commit. However she has been with her partner for multiple years and saw him as marriage material from the start. So why do you believe she can't get attractive men to commit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?We're not though, are we? Look at the original post. She said she viewed her partner as someone she'd want to marry rather than someone she'd just want to bang. There's absolutely ZERO indication there that she is talking about physical attraction, all we know is that she saw him as a serious prospect and not just a sex object. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:01 PM |
| -2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Where exactly have women literally said they're cucking men? Where have the even implied that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No, a relationship requires a higher degree of attractiveness than casual sex. I'm not going to seriously date someone if I don't have a really strong spark and a high degree of compatibility and attraction. But I've certainly had casual arrangements with people who don't fit the bill in terms of what I'd need in order to commit to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:42 PM |
| -2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?But her partner, who she is attracted to, has committed for several years already? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I can't see her insinuating that anywhere. What I can see is that she didn't put him into the "just for casual sex" category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?No, he's upset because he can't understand that desiring someone as a full package is better than just being willing to bang them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:33 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It's very much not, but if it makes you feel better then sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Everyone had been accidentally insulted. It's only on this weird little subreddit that people would use that to make sweeping generalisations about women and relationships though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Not really, because I don't see the purpose in engaging with discussion around a way that most women don't act. Do some girls have those expectations? Sure! Do most of them? Nope. So what's the point in delving into it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:30 PM |
| -2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Nope, not at all my logic. In most cases, if a woman thinks a man is marriage material or wants to pursue a long-term relationship that is because she wants to bang him and also sees lots of other positive compatibility factors. Someone saying they'd want a LTR with you but not want to have sex is very very abnormal. Usually being attracted to someone is one of the fundamental parts of wanting to be with them seriously. Obviously you shouldn't be ecstatic about that because it's very weird and v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Wild projection. If a woman willingly enters into a FWB/hookup situation, it's because she doesn't see him as relationship material. If she sees him as someone she really would like to be with, she won't agree to it being casual. That doesn't mean she doesn't think he's attractive - it just means that she doesn't ONLY think he's attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Lots of men have experiences like yours for sure. I wouldn't for a moment deny your experience just because it's unusual. It's just that it isn't the default. The majority of women partnering up with or marrying someone are doing so because they genuinely love their man. It sounds like you kept pursuing someone who wasn't super interested to begin with, who had mixed feelings about relationships and actively had decided not to have sex when you got together. That isn't the norm in relationships,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?The thing is, someone who's seen as marriage material surely IS the full package? So why is OP insulting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I don't. I do, however, know that it's my experience and that it's a very common one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:27 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?One is a situation where you don't see them as someone to be with long-term but would be up for some casual fun. The other is where you're really into them and want to pursue a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:09 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?What on earth are you talking about? No, clearly that's not what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Yes, that is the point. She is saying that she saw him as marriage material rather than as someone just for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:54 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Well yeah, exactly. Bad phrasing maybe, but the sentiment is pretty clearly positive not insulting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:47 PM |
| 6 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Exactly! It actually makes me feel really sad that they must be looking at any couples around them where the women DEEPLY love their partners with such absolute cynicism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:46 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It's not rare. A lot of women enjoy casual sex. And they don't enter into FWB situations if it's likely they'll develop feelings. Talk to any woman who's had casual setups, and she will have stories about the men who have insisted they only want to be casual then gone insane when the woman doesn't want to become serious later down the line. She phrased it badly. But we don't know what the context of the conversation was, and telling someone that you knew from the start that you saw something ser… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:40 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?What are you on about?? She isn't debating whether he's just a hookup or not. She isn't saying that she has ever thought of him as just a hookup. She told him that she always thought of him as marriage material, and that there wasn't a time that she ever thought of him as just a hookup. He is upset by that because he feels that the fact she didn't view him as just a hookup means that he's somehow inferior to the men she didn't view as marriage material. Presumably because he thinks the fact she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:36 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Men do that too though? Also, from my experience it's not either/or - some men are JUST fun to hang out with and have sex with, and they're the ones you just have casual setups with. Some men are fun to hang out with and have sex with, but ALSO are compatible in loads of other ways in addition to that, and they're the ones who are "marriage material". I don't think that saying that is "giving up the game" tbh - like as far as I can tell, nobody has been trying to deny that it takes more than jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:30 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Sure, she phrased it badly. But I have zero trouble understanding that wanting someone for marriage rather than a hookup means you're MORE attracted to them, not less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I'm sure that most men are able to differentiate between "I can see myself really falling for her" vs "I would like to fuck her but couldn't see her as a serious partner" regardless of whether they are actually sleeping with her or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:10 PM |
| 8 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Sure there's that argument around "other men get sex for free but I have to take her on dates??!". Which I can't really be bothered to think about very much tbh - I've always slept with men fairly quickly if I really like them, but I've also made it clear that I want to be exclusive and am not up for a FWB situation with the ones I was REALLY into. And all my relationships have been quite equal in terms of paying for or planning activities, so in terms of 'what they have to do to get it' it's la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:04 PM |
| -4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?There's no change in values. The fact that I have had hook-ups with some people and had long-term relationships with others doesn't indicate a change in my values, it just indicates that I have had deeper feelings for some men than others. "Husband material" means someone you want for sex AND as a long-term companion. Saying she viewed him at the start as someone she wanted to marry, not just hook up with, doesn't mean she didn't want him for sex, it means she wanted him for more than just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:39 AM |
| -3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?And a lot of women don't want to be FWB with a man they really really like because of the inevitability of getting hurt. So they don't rush into it or agree to it being casual with someone they see themselves developing real feelings for, but might have some no strings fun with people they know aren't going to be right in the long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?My experience is willful ignorance? 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:20 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?What is your point? She's said to her long-term partner that she saw him as someone she'd want to be with long-term right from the start, and never thought of him as someone who was just a hookup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:19 AM |
| 0 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Where does she say her values changed? Women sometimes meet men who they're down for some casual fun with but wouldn't want a relationship with. They also sometimes meet men who they like a lot more and could see themselves falling for. Feeling differently about one person to other people doesn't denote a change in values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:18 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?The guy is getting sex either way. If for whatever reason he isn't someone the woman sees as compatible long-term, then she'll view him as someone just to have casual fun with and he gets sex. If he's someone she REALLY likes on a deeper level, she'll view him as someone she wants a relationship with and he gets sex if he also wants to pursue a relationship. Generally people won't want to enter into a casual setup with someone in the second category because of the significant likelihood of getti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 11:15 AM |
| 3 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?She said she HADN'T designated him as someone just for sex. He's upset because she viewed him as someone she wanted to be serious with from the start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 10:54 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It's not universal, but it's far from unusual. When I look at all the couples I'm friends with, the couples in my family, or how colleagues talk about their partners, ALL of them (bar a couple of relationships that are clearly on the out) are between people who genuinely are really compatible, get on really well, and very obviously really love each other. All the women I've known since before they were married, I remember them being SO excited they couldn't shut up about the man at the start of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 09:13 AM |
| 9 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?I don't know any women who view their long-term partners that way. I had far more chemistry, attraction and compatibility with the people I've had serious relationships with than I did with the people I just wanted to have something casual with. The idea that women simply 'tolerate' the men they settle down with is not based on the reality of most couples. In general the reason a woman chooses a man to settle down with it's because she's found someone she REALLY likes, not because she can't do b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?It's almost always men who get attached after asserting that they want to keep it casual from what I've observed and experienced 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 08:54 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Nope, it isn't. Most of the men I had casual things with in the past ended up wanting more and got really fucking weird about it when I didn't want to get serious. And that's not at all a unique experience - every woman who's had hook-ups or FWBs in the past will have stories about dudes who've gone into it saying they're not looking for a relationship/exclusivity then gotten attached and then had a massive tantrum about not getting to change the terms of the arrangement. Some men are just fun a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 08:49 AM |
| 6 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Yeah, that's not the point though. She's saying she DIDN'T just see him as someone to have sex with short-term. Both men and women will sometimes engage in casual sex with people they wouldn't want to be with long-term (which could be insulting if both parties aren't aware of/in agreement with), whereas the people they want something more serious with have more to offer, better compatibility, more chemistry, etc. I don't see how it's insulting to be told your long-term partner saw you in the lat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 08:42 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?She didn't explicitly say that. You might believe she implicitly said that, but what she explicitly said is that she wouldn't have wanted a casual thing with him but would want to marry him. Rather than being a guy that will do for short term fun, he is someone she actually wants to be serious with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 08:34 AM |
| 10 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Where did she admit that? She said she wanted him for marriage, not something casual. To me, there's a whole variety of reasons that I've only viewed some men as short-term fun, and when I've been interested in something serious with someone it's because I've been MORE attracted to them and had MORE chemistry with them than people I've wanted to keep it casual with. Like why would I put someone who actually ticked all the boxes in the FWB category? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 08:02 AM |
| 10 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Honestly don't see the issue with it? Men here talk about 'fuckzoning' women who aren't marriage material all the time. This is the same thing, no? She's saying he's someone she wants to be with forever, not someone she just wanted to be casual with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 07:31 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: How is it possible for normal women to experience constant catcalling/harassment in their childhood?Most teenagers have more independence than you did. In the UK, secondary school starts when you're 11 and that's when kids generally start going to school by themselves, maybe going to the shops or for a Starbucks/McDonalds with friends after school, being less attached-at-the hip to their parents in general. Personally, I had Saturday job serving breakfast in a hotel café and was harassed constantly there - distinctly remember a man asking my age and then, when I said I was 14, pointedly starti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsOkay so he's identified a specific problem that he has based on a specific disorder. How is that relevant to a general discussion on dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsTrue. I'm not sure how that in any way contradicts my original point about how if someone keeps struggling then they probably have something deeper going on that's making them less appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsI don't think most men are superficial and shallow. Most men are dynamic and unique and have all sorts of individual preferences and dislikes. Same for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsI think you're agreeing with me? My only point has been that if people aren't having ANY luck despite being in good shape and having an active social life, something else is going on and they should examine what that might be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsThere is a prescription to human behaviour A BIT. We're social animals, and if someone deviates from the norm to a large degree then they're going to fare badly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsIt's not really "my perception of things", that just the norm. You can't make generalisations about the outliers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 05:30 PM |
| 3 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsIt's really not victim blaming. If someone can't work out what is hindering them in dating, and I tell them to look beyond basic stuff like being social, I am not in any way whatsoever victim blaming - I am encouraging them to work out what the issue actually is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsStill not gaslighting though. When I said to the person I was replying to that they should take a deeper look at what's making them unsuccessful if they believe their social skills are super strong, I was not by any stretch "gaslighting". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsI think you're getting confused about the word gaslighting. What you're describing isn't gaslighting even if it were true. But actually none of my partners have been rich or tall or buff. Two were over 6 foot, but the other four were maybe like 5'8 or less? Deeply sorry to bust your bubble but most women actually do choose partners based on overall personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:24 PM |
| 0 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsWhy are so many bitter men trying to shoehorn the word "gaslighting" into sentences it doesn't belong in? When women talk about what they find unattractive they are not gaslighting you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:20 PM |
| 5 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsUndesirable men aren't victims. They're unfortunate for sure, but saying that someone isn't attractive isn't victim blaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsNope, I'm just saying that they're clearly not doing everything right and/or do not have social skills as good as they think if they're not getting any luck at all. That's not gaslighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsBlah. I have never in my life seen a man who had good social skills, good hygiene, a stable job even if it doesn't pay well, and a basic knowledge of how to dress himself struggle with women. EVERY man I know who can't get ANYONE does have some much bigger and deeper issue. Don't massively care if it creates more insecurity - it's true regardless of how it makes people feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsSome women are very superficial and picky. Most of them aren't though. If he can't get ANYONE then there's something deeper that's causing that issue, if he just can't get a certain type of woman then that's because he doesn't have the qualities to attract a gold-digger/social climber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsSort yourself out then. If you've identified the issue then you can't have a tantrum about other people also noticing and not being attracted to you based on that issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsSure, yeah, I'm not trying to be an advocate and I don't consider it my job to be one. Still stand by what I said, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsI'm not automatically blaming his social skills. I'm saying that he should have a think about what's not working if he believes his social skills are faultless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsMost of my friends are men. I can quite clearly see what the issue is with the ones who claim they're doing everything right but getting not luck. If this person is socially active and has a basic level of personal care (clean clothes, clean teeth, clean hair, etc.) AND they're participating in a lot of social stuff and still aren't getting any interest, then there IS something else going wrong. It's not gaslighting and it's not naivety to say that they should do a bit of self reflection to work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 02:07 PM |
| 10 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsAsking him to reflect on what other factors might be at play is not gaslighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 02:02 PM |
| 3 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsDunno about that. All of the WORST men I know have had streams of girlfriends. Like ugly, drug-taking, mentally unwell, unemployed men that I know seem to have more success than a lot of nice and normal and attractive girls with vanilla lifestyles 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:59 PM |
| 0 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerCool. Still hasn't noticeably narrowed my options though, so I'm not sure why I should be lowering my standards 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:55 PM |
| 7 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsWell there must be, no? Otherwise why aren't you able to? Like I said, it's worth examining that and figuring out what it is - loads of men who have what are considered negative traits or looks do totally fine romantically. So surely rather than getting annoyed about it you should be looking inwards to figure out what you're lacking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:50 PM |
| 0 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerLol are you downvoting me because you're having a little pissy-pants tantrum over learning that loads of men and loads of women are totally fine with dating single parents? Why so stroppy? Why does it even bother you?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsIn what way do you believe what I said was gaslighting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:44 PM |
| 9 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsGaslighting is deliberately convincing someone that they're going insane. I am unsure which part of what I said made you believe I'm doing that - the majority of people who are socially active and personable don't have major issues finding a romantic partner, so I said it's worth examining what other factors might be at play with you. Not really sure how that would fit into anyone's definition of gaslighting! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:43 PM |
| 13 | Friendships are inadequate substitutes for romantic inclinationsYou develop better social skills and meet more new people if you have a strong social network. These things are beneficial for dating. If you're a very social person with a broad network of friends and some hobbies that involve other people and you're STILL not getting any luck, there's something bigger that's offputting about you. Short men, bald men, fat men, poor men find success by just being fun and interesting and social - I'd recommend taking some time to honestly ask yourself what negati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:11 PM |
| 0 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerI don't think there's anything delusional about me telling you what my experience has been. Sure, some men probably have disqualified me. But a lot of them haven't, and I've never felt like I have to drop my standards to find one. I've never even actively tried to date tbh, I've just fallen into relationships with people I click with and I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever in the numbers or types of men who've been interested in me before vs after I had my kid. I've also seen this in oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:46 AM |
| 0 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerThere's also huge swathes of men who don't consider it a deal-breaker at all though. Speaking as a single mother, there really are plenty of men willing to date us. I've honestly never noticed it have any particular impact on my romantic life; never been rejected or dumped by anyone, or had anyone 'fuckzone' me, or stayed single long when I wasn't actively choosing to be single for a period... It's just been a total non-issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerSpeaking as a single mother, there really are plenty of men willing to date us. I've honestly never noticed it have any particular impact on my romantic life, never been rejected or dumped by anyone, or had anyone 'fuckzone' me, or stayed single long when I wasn't actively choosing to be single for a period... just been a total non-issue. Maybe because I have 50/50 care of my kid so I'm not looking for someone else to parent him and don't have issues where I can't ever go out without finding a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:46 AM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?Yeah exactly. I'm quite enjoying being single at the moment, but if/when I partner up again then I think I'll just suggest from the start that we split the cost of a cleaner if it gets to the cohabiting stage. Arguing about cleaning is so trivial but at the same time has such a big impact... It feels like one where it really is worth just throwing money at the problem 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 06:22 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?A proper functional adult partner, then 🙂 Well done on picking a lot better than I did! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 06:19 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?Yep, same - I'd rather spend 10 minutes cleaning on a regular basis than half an hour and a ton of elbow-grease doing it less often. Most of the smaller tasks, I do just as I'm going about my day (like I might grab a spray and a cloth on my way upstairs from the kitchen and quickly wipe things in my path), or I do things like putting yesterday evening's clean dishes away while the kettle boils in the morning. It really wouldn't actually be a lot if I had a partner equally doing that, but was a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:56 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?Yeah it's more time than I'd like to spend on it for sure. I work mostly from home though, and other than the floors most tasks only take about 5-10 minutes, so I can do little bits here and there so that it doesn't feel like I'm having to spend huge chunks of time on it. But it was a real point of contention when I worked in the office so couldn't do quick bits through the day, and lived with partners who worked the same hours as me but hardly contributed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 7 | The "unequal division of household chores" in large part arises from status competition within female social circles, which the male partner has no obligation to make sacrifices for.Working class jobs doesn't mean shift work/manual labour/no climate control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:21 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?Dogs and kids definitely ramp it up! I live in the official rainiest city in the UK, with a spaniel and a poodle, and a teenage son... The house would be disgusting if I did any less! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:20 PM |
| 7 | The "unequal division of household chores" in large part arises from status competition within female social circles, which the male partner has no obligation to make sacrifices for.No they don't. Most men do not work in manual labour jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:17 PM |
| 6 | The "unequal division of household chores" in large part arises from status competition within female social circles, which the male partner has no obligation to make sacrifices for.Most men do not work in blue collar jobs. And plenty of women work in jobs that are physically demanding (cleaning, caring, nursing, retail, hospitality, etc.). Every man I've ever gone out with has had an office job, and that is the most common type of job for men to have. The number of men working blue collar jobs is about equal to the number of women working in caring jobs. So why are women burdened with the bulk of the housework still? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 05:10 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?By cleaning the counters, yeah, I mean wiping crumbs/food residue off - basically I sweep any bits into my hand, tip it into the bin, then spritz with a surface spray and give them a quick wipe. Same for the hob if I've cooked on it and food has splashed on it. Doing that daily means I don't really have to deep-clean/de-grease them ever, and only takes about 2 minutes. I fucking hate mopping - I live in rainy muddy Wales with two long-haired dogs though so unfortunately weekly is a necessity, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 04:53 PM |
| 4 | The "unequal division of household chores" in large part arises from status competition within female social circles, which the male partner has no obligation to make sacrifices for."Most women want a spotless house", lol no they don't. Most women just want a basic level of cleanliness and for the place to look nice and be tidy - don't know how many women's houses you've been to but it's unusual to meet a woman who truly expects a constantly pristine home, or who feels the need to deep-clean every day. I can only think of a handful of people I've known in my life whose houses were genuinely spotless at all times and who were really particular about cleaning , and I'm pretty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 04:31 PM |
| – | Q4W: How often do you do the following chores?Curious about where people think I sit in terms of cleanliness standards actually. The fact I've been responsible for about 80% of this and often had to nag in order to get them to even contribute that 20% was a key contributing factor in me having ended it with both of the men I've cohabited with. My chore schedule looks roughly like this (for context it's a small 2-bed house so not a huge space to keep on top of, with a concrete yard and no lawn to maintain)... Daily: * Make bed * Wipe down sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 04:15 PM |
| 14 | The "unequal division of household chores" in large part arises from status competition within female social circles, which the male partner has no obligation to make sacrifices for.None of your examples reflect the reality of most households. From personal experience, and from what all the other women I've known in similar situations have discussed, the complaint is men not doing their fair share of basic tasks that are necessary to keep a house organised and reasonably clean. When I've been frustrated at doing the bulk of the housework, that is not because I wish to have a spotless house to impress my friends. It's because dishes need washing, floors need sweeping, toilet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 08:55 AM |
| 6 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.Right exactly - exceptions don't make the rule. And women with the attitude OP described are very much the exception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.It's not a false claim to say that women date for love and intimacy, and I cannot fathom the idea that someone sincerely holds that view. What constitutes a 'loser' to you? To me a 'loser' is someone who's negative, boring, lacking in passion, unsocial, etc. - as in someone that's just lame and not enjoyable to be around. It's a word I've always taken to mean how someone behaves and presents themselves. By loser, do you mean someone who doesn't earn a lot? Cos if so, most men aren't especially s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:14 PM |
| 5 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.I said personality is key - being a loser is not an attractive personality trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 07:39 AM |
| 9 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories."Homeless bums" probably have quite a lot of stuff going on that make them incompatible with the average woman. High rates of STIs in the homeless population indicate they're not entirely unsuccessful though. And all you need to do is glance at a gossip site to see how prevalent divorce and relationship drama is - celebs don't have massively high relationship success rates compared to average people in relationships. Rather than looking at either extreme, look at the normal people around you, ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:46 AM |
| 11 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.This just isn't true. If you're dating with the intention of getting into a serious relationship, this is someone you'll be spending the majority of your time outside of work with. You want someone you're genuinely compatible with, who you genuinely love and care about, whose company you genuinely enjoy. It's highly unusual that anyone, man or woman, would want to spend all their time with someone they think is "purely decorative". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:35 AM |
| 12 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.But this is true of women too - ask a woman in real life and she'll say personality is key too. And in real life, women date men primarily for love, intimacy and companionship - especially in modern times where we aren't forced to be reliant on them financially. It's a very small amount of women who are just dating for status, and they're not representative of the real world either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:32 AM |
| 2 | Women complain about traits of high T but don't want any side effects of a low T maleYoung people at their physical peak bang each other after finishing months of rigorous training. What a shocker. Not quite sure how athletes getting horny after competitions is particularly relevant to what women in general want though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.That too! I mean there's a million reasons for a man not to rescue cats solely in the hopes of being more attractive to women even if it WAS universal that women all think that's a desirable thing, my point was more about how it's definitely not a universally desired trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 05:25 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.Meh. Caring about animals is nice, but I have two dogs; I don't want a man with cats (or a man with his own dogs for that matter - two is plenty). Then there's all the women who are allergic or just don't like cats. Finding a man more desirable because he rescues cats is a SUPER individual thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Are women finding less men are willing to help them?Plenty of clubs don't have a bouncer at the toilets. In my experience at least, more places don't have one than do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?I didn't go on a tangent - my original comment was "It's not a massive deal at all, and a total non-issue in the grand scheme of things. Still an interesting phenomenon, and one that's relevant in the contexts of topics on this subreddit specifically." You're the one who keeps pushing back. The thing is, I agree that it's bad to call men names. I think there are lots of things that women do that are unkind or disrespectful to men. Pointing out that there are lots of unpleasant names men called w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Personally I don't expect men to pay for dates (other than the odd treat, but I pay for dates as an occasional treat too), I don't have any interest in getting married, and I don't ever think it's okay for women to insult or hit men. The list of things women call men was a list of insults - I could provide a list of things men call women too. There isn't an equivalent where women routinely refuse to call men 'men'. For all this talk of me "getting mad over nothing" you're doing an awful lot of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?I'm not mad - I don't have any particular emotion around it, I'm just drawing attention to a use of language that is rooted in misogyny. Like I've said repeatedly, I agree that it's not the biggest deal in the world or worth getting worked up over. And again, I think it's really strange to jump in and argue with me pointing out the connotations of using "men" rather than "males" in the same sentence as using "females" instead of "women". Like you say - it's not actually that much of a big deal -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?No, it's not super deep. It is a trend that stems from misogyny though, and it shouldn't be a biggie to point it out. All I posted was a link to a subreddit - hardly getting up in arms about it. And it's odd to react to that by arguing rather than just thinking "huh, that is a backwards way of using language, I'll just call women women next time". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?He could be. But his use of "men and females" wasn't just fucking around, and the origins of "female" being used in place of "woman" by certain men in certain corners of the internet absolutely isn't just fucking around. So I don't think it's actually a massive deal to point it out. Also, I didn't really "make it into a thing" - I posted a link to a subreddit and then had pissy replies from you and him. Easy solution if it bothers you enough to start arguing about it when someone calls attention… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?The person I was replying to literally said he's using it as deliberately dehumanising language. I'm not sure how that's irrelevant in a subreddit that is largely focused around how men view women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 02:02 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?It's not a massive deal at all, and a total non-issue in the grand scheme of things. Still an interesting phenomenon, and one that's relevant in the contexts of topics on this subreddit specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 01:57 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?No, I think you're probably very set in your ways and are unlikely to change. I am deeply curious about what is wrong with you and why you'd be so deliberately unpleasant though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 01:21 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Normal men don't actively seek to dehumanise women. What's going on with you that makes that something you wish to do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 01:11 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Logically speaking, why do you want to dehumanise women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Your gender isn't relevant - it's just as incorrect to refer to women as "females" as it is to refer to men as "males". It's not only grammatically incorrect, but also dehumanising - calling women "females" is something that was popularised through incel communities. It's a derogatory use of language that certain types of men use - notice that it's always "men and females" and rarely "males and women". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?I haven't actually told anyone to 'just be themselves', so I'm still confused about your reply. That advice doesn't mean "freely be a dick" though - and being yourself doesn't exempt you from criticism of your character. You're free to be yourself, I'm free to draw attention to how much of a twat you sound in referring to women as "females" but not referring to men as "males". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:28 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Did you mean to reply to someone else? If not, I have zero idea what you mean by that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:16 PM |
| -1 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?r/menandfemales | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Some men's obsession with deflowering a virgin is stupid but the argument made against it are even stupider.No, it didn't. People used to believe they functioned a certain way, until we developed a better understanding. It wasn't a sudden overnight change, it was people developing a better grasp of science and human anatomy over many years. Believing the hymen is a seal over the vagina is akin to believing in acupuncture or homeopathy, so I suppose crack on if you're going to defend such a nutty idea in the face of all evidence... But you are going to look a real fool by doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Some men's obsession with deflowering a virgin is stupid but the argument made against it are even stupider.We do indeed know what it is because it is part of the human anatomy that at this point in modern medicine we have a thorough understanding of. You can't "have a belief" around a body part - particularly when what you are picturing is a rare medical condition, and not at all normal female anatomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Some men's obsession with deflowering a virgin is stupid but the argument made against it are even stupider.Right. Asking again, do you actually know what a hymen is? I feel like people who make the arguments you're making believe that it's like skin covering the vagina in some way. In a normal woman, it doesn't actually restrict the opening in any significant way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Some men's obsession with deflowering a virgin is stupid but the argument made against it are even stupider.Nope. If she's properly wet when she has sex, or if her skin has a high degree of elasticity, or if she had a small amount of tissue to begin with (again - it is only 5% of women who have tissue partially or totally covering the vagina, and that is an actual medical condition) then she could well not have lost it even after multiple partners and lots of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Some men's obsession with deflowering a virgin is stupid but the argument made against it are even stupider.Not a myth at all. Are you aware of what a hymen is? It's not like a seal covering the vagina - it's some extra tissue around the entrance. It can shrink back through using tampons, masturbating, or even things like exercise as well as through sex. It also can be minimally present to begin with - some women get to the point where it's noted during pregnancy checkups that theirs is still present. When it's partially or totally covering the vagina, that is a medical condition - and it's fairly rar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Men of PPD, what are your standards? Do you think they are high?Yes, that's why I said there are plenty of plenty of fat people who have pretty healthy, active lifestyles other than eating more calories than they burn. Lots of thin people eat really unhealthy foods, lots of fat people are fat from eating healthy, home-cooked, nutritionally balanced meals but just being bad at portion control. It's absolutely fine to just not think fat people are attractive - but unless we're talking about people who are actually obese, just being fat isn't really a strong in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Men of PPD, what are your standards? Do you think they are high?Yes, that is what that sentence means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Men of PPD, what are your standards? Do you think they are high?He didn't say he requires someone to live a healthy life though? Plenty of thin people out there who have incredibly unhealthy lifestyles, and plenty of fat people who have pretty healthy, active lifestyles other than eating more calories than they burn. It's fine to just superficially prefer how slimmer bodies look without equating it to health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 07:15 AM |
| 2 | "Having common interests" is one of the most overrated pieces of advice when it comes to dating, part. 2I commented similarly on the last post, but I think you're taking it a bit too literally. People aren't saying that you need to find someone who participates in the exact same activities and specific hobbies that you do, it's more about having general common ground with each other and some shared interests. When I look at my friendships, they're broadly into a lot of the same things as I am - with most of them, we have similar tastes in music, or like similar films and TV shows, or like the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:03 AM |
| – | Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desireI think only one person I've dated was over 6 foot. It's never come up in conversation really - I'm 5'3, broadly I categorise people into "taller than me", "shorter than me" or "about the same height as me". Definitely a few men I dated were in the "about the same height as me" category, there was one who was A LOT taller and we didn't really vibe as a couple so it fizzled out quite quickly. But what I mostly mean by "not head turners" is that they were a bit scruffy, or a big podgy, or had croo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 09:50 AM |
| – | Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desirePretty mean to date someone you are 'repulsed by' too. Also I'm not a 'thing' that I'm withholding from men I don't deem to be perfect. I don't have any obligation, desire or need to be with anyone at all if they don't tick all the boxes - my life is worse being in a relationship with someone I'm not really into than it is being single. I can't see how it's entitled, arrogant, narrow-minded or mean to simply not date people I don't really want to date. That said, none of the men I've been with h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 09:40 AM |
| – | Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desireHow is that a moral failing? And how is it even different for men? You have an extensive comment and post history detailing how repulsed you are by average women, how you think women are beneath you, how you think woman are boring - how is that not a moral failing on your part, but it IS a moral failing when women think the same way about you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Father/daughter enmeshment (being a daddys girl) is as destructive as mother/son enmeshment (being a mommas boy). Why does no one talk about it?Incorrect. Copying and pasting a comment I made a while back with the actual statistics, but men are more likely to harm children - if you look up statistics on elder abuse it's similar. It's also usually linked to postpartum psychosis in women, whereas it's more likely to be due to revenge or angern when men are the culprits, which is an important difference if you're talking about overall character. This study , which uses data from 33 countries, shows women to account for 54% of parental homi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 07:20 AM |
| 1 | I believe most people in dating are working on themselves emotionally and failI don't really understand what information we're meant to take from people saying dating is harder now than it was a decade ago. If people are basing it on their own experience, then sure it's harder when you're a decade older and in that time have either had no relationship experience or have a bit of additional baggage from failed relationships. Or alternatively, they aren't in the dating game now or weren't back then so can't really make a comparison. In my experience, everyone I've ever know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 07:10 AM |
| 29 | Long term relationships fail a cost/benefit analysis for men outside the top 20%Realistically, how many men are conversant about those things? All the women I'm friends with are intelligent, educated, curious and have broad interests though, and it's odd that you're able to get through life without experiencing that. Maybe your view is a 'you thing'? If your real-life persona is as unpleasant as your online one then it might just be that they don't want to talk to you specifically, and deliberately keep conversations surface-level with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 05:20 AM |
| – | Q4W: what are some good ways to discourage males from approaching women?That isn't how most people met before the internet either. The vast majority of relationships were formed the same way that most of them still are now - meeting through friends, family, work or hobbies and activities. Not through men just wandering up to random women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Serious talk - do women actually segregate men into 'alphafux' and 'betabux' at first glance?Not really. Being unable to picture him being well-mannered in company is one element (but tbh you're right, probably would be fine and it's more about how I view him than how he might actually interact with people). And it's less about being actively embarrassed about introducing him to family - I did say he wasn't someone I'd ever want to live with or have kids with too. As in not someone I saw as a long-term thing, because of a variety of factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Serious talk - do women actually segregate men into 'alphafux' and 'betabux' at first glance?I guess just generally being a bit chaotic - totally unsettled lifestyle, big partier, quite high-risk of having a drink too many at a family event and saying something inappropriate... Men can be an absolute blast to hang out with and loads of fun as a casual fling, but at the same time categorically not be the sort of people you'd want to seriously share your life with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 12:15 PM |
| 11 | Serious talk - do women actually segregate men into 'alphafux' and 'betabux' at first glance?Why would you 'not buy' that? I've casually hooked up with men who definitely weren't boyfriend material - fun, good looking, great in bed, but ultimately not people I'd have ever wanted to introduce to my family/live with/raise kids with. Having sex with people just for fun isn't an exclusively male behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 07:13 AM |
| 8 | "Having common interests" is one of the most overrated things when it comes to relationshipsI don't think people literally mean shared hobbies when they talk about common interests. It's more about having similar tastes, liking the same things... Like I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone who doesn't like the same music I do, doesn't like the foods I love most, doesn't enjoy the types of TV/film I do, etc. Logistically it would be a pain, too, if for example I loved city breaks but my partner loved beach holidays, or if I loved minimal Scandi decor but my partner like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last?Lol I love how the men who refer to Erin Pizzey have clearly never actually read anything she's written. Never sure if it's deliberately misrepresenting her in order to suit a narrative, or just sheer laziness in repeating stories without ever looking into it. Rather than her being driven out of the country by violent feminists who were furious over the men's shelter, it simply failed. It didn't draw criticism or protest, the men just turned out to be a bit useless at keeping it running. Copied … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 01:38 PM |
| 6 | Women cannot accurately assess the wall themselvesIt's not an exponential risk for women - just an increased one. Which we also see with men. Men over 35 have significantly lowered fertility and pregnancies come with a lot more risks of developmental issues or miscarriage as paternal age advances. If you're a man who's counting on having no trouble leaving it until you're older, you might find yourself disappointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pillers completely leave out young women's preference when discussing "the wall"Honestly I think it's the other way round. Men and women in their 20s are far less likely to want to settle down than men and women in their 30s. Pretty much everyone I know who's married/in a solid long-term relationship/has kids met their partner in their 30s and found it much harder to hold onto a relationship in their 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 08:36 AM |
| 10 | Women cannot accurately assess the wall themselvesThat applies to men too though - advanced paternal age (35+) is associated with conditions like down syndrome, along with various complications in pregnancy and reduced sperm motility and count. Younger women are taking a big risk by shacking up with an older man if they want babies too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 07:55 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkYep, there are a lot of great guys out there. I'm quite happily in a relationship with one of them. However, it is undeniably a trend that men don't take on an equal role in household maintenance or the 'mental burden' that comes with that - it's VERY common, and is a super common reason for women losing interest/attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:55 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkYes, and I'm disagreeing with it. One of the BIGGEST reasons I and all of my women friends have ended relationships with men is due to being treated like a mum they get to fuck. It's a real and tangible cause and effect, not just some weird phenomenon where women lose interest over time for absolutely no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:30 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkIt absolutely makes sense. Nobody wants to fuck a dude whose underwear she has to pick up of the floor or nag into washing the dishes he's eaten off or clean the toilet he's shat in. It makes you feel like their mother which absolutely kills desire, but also it leaves you feeling totally disrespected and frustrated at having to do it all yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkTbf a key reason women lose attraction is that men stop pulling their weight in terms of chores. Very difficult to want to fuck someone when you've been put in a position where you're acting like his mum and having to repeatedly ask him to today up after himself or 'help you' to clean the house both of you live in. There was actually a study looking at this where it turned out that, shockingly, when men make themselves dependents women have reduced sexual feelings about them. Couple that with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.I don't know what point you're trying to make. I was responding to someone saying that it's all down to biology/fertility - which doesn't make sense because it declines at roughly the same rates in both sexes. I don't actually care particularly whether men or women age better - I looked better in my twenties, but so did a lot of my male friends, and most people date/marry within their own age bracket anyway, so 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 08:18 PM |
| 0 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Hop onto Google before scoffing. Rare, but there are multiple documented cases of women in their 70s getting pregnant through IVF. In England about 2 women per week over the age of 50 give birth, a few over 60s, and a couple of over 65s each year. So again, to reiterate: fertility for both men and women declines at roughly the same rate. It begins dropping in your 30s, drops more sharply in your 40s, and becomes very unlikely by your 50s without fertility treatment. Anomalies exist in ages above… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.It dies completely for a lot of men too, and there are several examples of women giving birth in their 70s. Anomalies aren't particularly useful in the discussion though. Fertility sharply drops for both sexes after the age of 40 - while a small number of men can conceive at an advanced age, it's unusual to still be fertile over the age of 50. Really would urge men to develop a better understanding of how their age impacts their fertility - far too many think men don't experience any significant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 01:34 PM |
| 0 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.I mean I got my info from Googling 'effects of paternal age on fertility' and 'effects of paternal age on developnent' and 'effects of paternal age on pregnancy' then clicking onto reputable sources for the results. It's also something I'm quite familiar with because I'm in my mid-30s and a few of my male friends are finding that they've left things too late, and having a bit of a sharp shock at realising that things drop off for them around 35+ too. Like I said -a big proportion of couples acce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 12:43 PM |
| 0 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.True. But that doesn't alter the fact that fertility declines at about the same rate for men and women, and impacts on pregnancy and child development are impacted heavily by paternal age. Sure you get the odd man who's 60+ fathering children, but it's not the norm by any means, and usually men will start to have issues conceiving right around the age women do. Google is your friend if you want sources. I'm not spending time formatting links into a post on my phone, but if you're interested (and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 12:22 PM |
| 10 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Male fertility actually declines at roughly the same rate as women's. Sperm motility starts dropping from the age of about 30, and sperm count drops significantly by the age of 40. Male fertility decline is at the root of about 40% of couples who seek fertility treatment - and in fertility clinics, men over 35 have a 25% chance of successfully conceiving vs a 52% chance for men under 35. Higher paternal age is also highly correlated to developmental abnormalities (paternal age of 35+ increases t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 07:55 AM |
| 2 | What advice would you give a "high value man" who is struggling with dating?There's your answer then. I, and probably most women, can be a bit flexible on preferences in terms of looks/career/income, but if the conversation is flat and there's no flirting, joking, playfulness etc. then anyone who's not entirely superficial just won't be interested in pursuing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 03:30 PM |
| 3 | What are your guys views on "entitlement" of sex in marriage?Presumably, your wife is someone you love, who you share a life with, who you know intimately, who you are committed to. The sex is just one element of the partnership, and as much as it's about physically getting off it's also about bonding and expressing affection and attraction. Fucking a random woman at a bar is only about physically getting off and isn't really comparable - the whole point of getting married is that it's about a lot more than sex. Your wife is different to some random woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?That wasn't even close to my point. I was responding to someone saying "most women cheat at least once per relationship" - men do in fact cheat more than women according to most recent stats, and it's not even true that most men cheat or that they do so in every relationship, which makes it even less likely that most women cheat in every relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?Would you support all men having their DNA on a database then? Because surely mandatory paternity testing would necessarily mean we'd need a complete database of men to identify the father, not just tests to show if someone isn't the father. It would help hold men who get someone pregnant then disappear to account too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 06:52 AM |
| 2 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?Nope. Over-screening, counterintuitively, can do more harm than good. There's a reason doctors don't recommend it as standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 06:47 AM |
| 2 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?Why are you convinced of that? Men are more likely to cheat than women, and even then it's not like MOST men cheat, or that they cheat in EVERY relationship. It's even less common for women to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong for an inexperienced older man to prefer younger women due to them also being inexperienced?Are they? Testosterone drops by 2% every year once a man hits 30. Seems they're more likely to keep getting less masculine as they age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 10:32 AM |
| 3 | Makeup is basically a pretence and a sign of insecurity.This one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women?The average in the US specifically is about 7 according to various surveys. Apparently it's just 4 in the UK which doesn't seem very consistent with culture here either - the response from everyone I've talked to about it and every news article that's mentioned it has been total disbelief that it's that low 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 08:42 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a bisexual?Lots of people really are ambivalent. Mentioned this in a comment below but where I live the NHS provide postal tests for free. So you order it, get a kit to take swabs and a finger prick blood sample, send it back in a postage paid envelope. No hassle, no embarrassment, no appointments to keep or clinics to go to or phone calls to make, no interacting with anyone at all. And the number of people getting regularly tested is STILL really low, and the number of cases of STIs keeps increasing. Like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a bisexual?Yeah it's... Concerning. Where I live you can get a free postal test from the NHS, they send a kit to take swabs and collect a finger prick blood sample then you send it back in a prepaid envelope and get your results texted to you. So no embarrassment, no hassle... And still overall low uptake 🤦♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:16 PM |
| 6 | Would you date a bisexual?Oh I know loads of people are way too lax about it. But usually the people who are concerned about STIs are the ones who are going to be getting tested and making sure their partners are tested. Like personally I'm really careful about sexual health - that to me means discussing it and both getting a test when I start seeing someone, rather than making assumptions about how likely someone is or isn't to have caught something. Just seems a much more straightforward way to deal with that concern t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 07:11 AM |
| – | CMV: There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a "deadbeat dad" if you make intentions clear from the startThere's always the option to have a sperm extraction after vasectomy too where it isn't reversible - higher success rates than natural conception, and no more of a major procedure than a vasectomy. Costs a couple of grand, but if a couple can't save that up in a reasonable time, probably not a great time to be planning a pregnancy anyway. I'm yet to hear a GOOD argument against men just getting the snip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Genuine close friendship between men and women is basically impossibleWas going to comment this exact thing. Apparently none of my friendships have ever been genuine 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:30 AM |
| 10 | Would you date a bisexual?Fear of STIs seems a weird one either way to me. Do people not know about tests? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:19 AM |
| 3 | If men want to even the dating field they should take better care of their appearanceSome stats show obesity rates are about the same between men and women, quite a lot show much higher rates of obesity in men than in women. Why aren't men dieting and working out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 06:48 AM |
| 2 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastFor sure some people can and do have threesomes, swing, have fully open relationships... All sorts of things work for different people, but a lot of people do rule out introducing a third in a monogamous relationship even if it's something they've done casually in the past, and that's very valid for all the reasons above. Your last paragraph is more about general much more deeply rooted relationship issues than that though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 09:32 AM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youHow are you not getting the chance though? Like I said, apps and cold-approaches are of course just gonna be based off of looks (because what else does anyone have to go by 🤷♀️). But I don't decide whether or not I'm going to get to know somebody based on their appearance - if I'm volunteering for a community project, taking part in a hobby, going on an evening course, going to a friend's birthday party, going to music or comedy gig, going to a work networking event, chatting to other dog owner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastFeeling insecure (angry? surely not healthy to be angry??) about a partner's previous experience isn't comparable to the damage watching them with someone else can do. Using myself as an example; I had a few threesomes when I was young and single. All of them were a result of being a bit intoxicated in a party and saying YOLO and having a mad bit of fun. Then did it with someone I was in a relationship with and it was a disaster - he got paranoid that I wouldn't be satisfied just by him, I got p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 08:21 PM |
| 4 | Have you seen "the ick" trend on TikTok? What do you make of it?Oh I totally agree there! Don't post videos that humiliate your friends, partners, parents or children for the sake of some likes. Or total strangers going about their day for that matter! But gently making fun of little things privately is fine, or talking generally about your personal pet peeves in the opposite gender is also fine if it's not done in an attacking or serious way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:53 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youI'm definitely not an exception - like I said in other comments, the same is true of women I'm friends with and women in my family and women I've worked with. And again like I said I know loads of guys who aren't very attractive who do just fine. And honestly I think MOST people can see this is true if they really look around them - like look at your colleagues, look at people in your social circles, look at people in your family - is it only the really hot men who have partners? Do none of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:23 PM |
| 7 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastCompletely valid to be insecure about it, and sensible to recognise that insecurity as something that makes you incompatible. I've gotta say though, I don't think it's actually as normal as you think it is for men to view their partner's past experiences as a menu they're entitled to recreate! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:58 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youAgain - yes we are! Like I said, I wasn't immediately attracted to the majority of the men I've dated. Almost all the women I know are currently or have previously dated men they didn't think were attractive when they first met. Loads of my male friends aren't particularly good looking or rich but they're lovely blokes who are funny and intelligent and outgoing and they have lovely girlfriends, wives and families. I'm sure it's difficult to get to know people if you're relying on apps or cold ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:47 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youPersonality absolutely matters to most women. Sure, looks are going to matter on dating apps or for cold-approaching outside of social situations cos that's all there is to go off - but most people I know meet their partners organically, and I know lots of men who wouldn't be considered conventionally handsome who have had no issues at all meeting women. Just to reiterate what I said cos you seem to have ignored what you replied to: I have absolutely zero interest in spending any time at all wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:29 PM |
| 7 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastDisagree hard on 2 - a threesome between people who aren't involved is just some fun, but it can throw up all sorts of insecurities in a relationship for both the man and the woman involved (just type 'threesome' into any of the relationship subreddits for millions of examples of this!) and there's a lot more at steak if either party develops feelings for the third person. Big difference between fooling around with two people at once while you're single vs watching someone you're in love with fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:14 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youPersonality absolutely isn't optional, for most women at least. I have absolutely zero interest in spending any time at all with someone who's super good looking but shit at conversation, doesn't like any of the things I'm into, has completely different politics/values, or doesn't have the same sense of humour as me. A guy who's not much of a looker but has all those qualities though, sign me up. Of all the men I've dated, I'd actually say I only had an immediate physical attraction to two of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:50 PM |
| 7 | Have you seen "the ick" trend on TikTok? What do you make of it?I mean 2 out of the 4 videos were girls talking about their boyfriends, so if anything it shows women can happily be with a guy even if he sometimes "gives her the ick". There's loads of little things my boyfriend does that are a bit annoying/cringe, or silly little things I think are 'icky' in general when I see men doing them, but I'm not rejecting anyone over them and neither are most women tbh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:40 AM |
| 11 | Q4M: do you find women only transport offensive?Yeah, there are. Google "men's shelter USA" or "men's mental health services USA" and you'll find there are loads across all states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.I don't think it's really about 'treating partners as just experiences'. Using myself as an example, I had a few casual/short term relationships and a few one night stands and it was about doing a fun thing with someone, with no expectations on either side. I didn't have a deep connection with them, but that was never really the point. That doesn't mean I can't stay with someone more than a few months (my actual relationships have lasted 5 years, 6 years and 3 years respectively), nor does it me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:24 PM |
| 1 | How to get out of a baby trapDo you have zero respect for women who raise another woman's child too? I know a few men who were primary caregivers of their children before meeting someone new and I have great respect for their female partners who accept those kids as part of the deal and build a blended family with them. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/23 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.Fair, thanks for explaining. I think from my perspective, it's unusual for people to make false accusations and even more unusual for it to get to court if they do, so I generally tend to believe the person accusing rather than the accuser. I think that's an "I personally know sexual assault victims of both genders who got nowhere with prosecution" thing rather than a feminist thing. But then I'm not massively involved in any feminist groups so I'd probably be equally confused if they always swa… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.Interesting. And helps me understand, so thanks for that explanation! I'm not really sure how I landed on this subreddit - it just popped into my feed loads recently? Absolutely am interested in and concerned about the issues and inequalities men deal with (I'm raising a boy, I know he's disadvantaged in a lot of ways even if he'd be disadvantaged in other ways if he was a girl) so I'm trying to read with an open mind. It's just a bit weird seeing a lot of posts like this jumping on women as the… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 06:54 PM |
| -15 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.But can they not take down the men who lied about being assaulted instead? Another man making things up? Feminists who want to see men get taken down were gonna get their way whichever way it went with this. It's always been an awful case either way because either he did assault four men, or four men were willing to lie to ruin his career. I just don't think this can be shoehorned into a different issue. Horrible situation but a bit of a stretch to make it a feminist vs men issue. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 06:33 PM |
| -17 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.How is a man being accused of sexually assaulting a man a feminist issue though? Either a man lied about being sexually assaulted or a man sexually assaulted another man - a dude did wrong either way, and no women were involved. I just don't understand how this can be blamed on feminism? | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 05:41 PM |
| 3 | Man 'disembowelled' with sword during argument about sex with a womanAnother man disemboweled him, the woman didn't have any involvement. One man said he wanted to sleep with her, the other man also wanted to sleep with her, and so he stabbed him. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 05:40 PM |
| -13 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.Really confused about how this is a feminist thing when both the accusers and the accused are men? | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 05:34 PM |
| -9 | Actor Kevin Spacey cleared of all charges of sexual assault.The victims were men though? The case was always that either several men lied about a man assaulting them, or a man assaulted several men. How would a man not have been to blame in that situation? | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Woman suggests that male circumcision “was used” to give males more pleasure.No, it isn’t remotely like that. The clitoris is solely responsible for sexual pleasure in women (even vaginal orgasms are the result of deep clitoral stimulation). Male circumcision is the equivalent of removing the clitoral hood. Removing it to the root would be the equivalent of removing a penis to the root. Yes there are a lot of nerve endings in the foreskin, but that’s not the point. Fingertips have more nerve endings than any other part of the body; nerve endings don’t equate to sexual pl… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/19 07:16 PM |
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