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Brother, we can't be ideologically free. Something as simple as believing in equality before the law and private business ownership is part an ideology (liberalism, old school). Not all ideologies are created equal, and you don't have to buy into anything wholesale. But thinking you're not subject to ideological forces, that you are above them, will ironically just leave a blind spot for you to be sideswiped by unexamined biases We all need some framework to make sense of the world, and we can u…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/20 05:44 AM
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Idk about that, boss, although police should be held to a physical standard, with anyone who passes that standard eligible to join
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:43 AM
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But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/20 12:31 PM
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<3
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 11:02 AM
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Which feminists? All of them? You've talked to every single one? Was there a convention or something when they all signed onto what Watson was going on about? This is what I mean when I say this is a weak method of argumentation, it's just preaching to the choir. There's even women who specifically reject that men can be feminists so you couldn't call yourself one if you wanted. You have to be an honest, thoughtful person and deal with self-described individual feminists based on what they say a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 11:00 AM
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But when women who admittedly don't hate men, or understand that the concept of structural oppression is meant to explain how people who genuinely don't have prejudice can inadvertently perpetuate prejudicial structures, distance themselves from radfems, you'll just accuse them of not being real feminists, rather than you seeing that the term "feminism" has been stretched to define any movement, including mutually exclusive ones, that have to do with women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 10:51 AM
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Feminism was founded by rich women who wanted access to professions, and political and legal equality with their rich husbands decades before the Scum manifesto was written
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/20 05:34 PM
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It's extremely disingenuous to equate the ramblings of the scum manifesto with women who want equal pay or abortion access. Either group can call themselves feminists. Feminism can mean contradictory things because it's not a hegemonic body of work. It is not at all helpful to be dishonest about a popular and appealing movement like feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/20 05:31 PM
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This is a serious misunderstanding of Marx, Lenin, and the history of the political and economic development of the USSR, and contemporary Marxist analysis of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/20 05:23 PM
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Damn, me and my brothers were all in scouts. I didn't stay long, I'm the youngest and by my time the local dens were a shadow of their former glory in the 80s. Well, we can always start Pioneers I guess
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/20 10:50 PM
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We absolutely lose nothing by teaching people, starting at an early age, about consent, the right to bodily autonomy, and other sexual ethics. But at the same time, I'm not sure telling adults not to do anti social, violent crimes is any more effective at stopping criminals than like gun control or prohinition. By definition, the ones willing to do the crime aren't going to let "no" stop them, it takes real deterrence, which is something that takes teaching people basic survival skills, falls on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 06:13 AM
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I live in a very pro life area, and I agree. However, I learned a useful method for understanding ideas from Ordered Universes by Klass. There's the emic (insider) perspective, how a believer explains an idea. Then there's the etic (outsider) explanation, which is materialist Pro life effectively does punish and control women, especially when good sex ed info is unavailable due to a political agenda https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(17)30297-5/full text , and the two often go hand in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 02:42 AM
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That's something you don't see at the renfest
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 02:28 AM
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Oh, no doubt at all. And because people in general but especially men can be ashamed of being victimized, it's hard to ever know how prevalent abuse is even in modern times. But, in the abstract, it is conceivable (but not at all guaranteed) that men would have more recourse to change their circumstances (being able to initiate divorce because their wives aren't producing children for example), if it is true they have more power relative to women in societies with more explicitly gendered norms …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 11:41 PM
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True, and we don't have a ton of info on poor people's daily personal lives before recently, because only the rich had the time and money for journaling However there are court cases that were recorded and and records of custom and law. A woman having the same property rights, or other legal rights, as a man wasn't necessarily a given in all societies. Being able to hold your husband or male relatives accountable for violence wasn't a given, either. You can find examples, like where a wife could…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 11:31 PM
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Oh I can tell. It was a slow night at the factory so I thought compiling a list of things to disprove him might be useful for others to see
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 11:19 PM
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Under Chávez, poverty in Venezuela was cut by more than a third, and extreme poverty by 57 percent (CEPR, 3/7/13). (These declines were even steeper if measured from the depths of the opposition-led oil strike, designed to force Chávez out by wrecking the economy.) In June 2013, the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) included Venezuela in a group of 18 nations that that had cut their number of hungry people by half in the preceding 20 years, 14 of which were governed by Chavismo: The F…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 07:45 AM
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Brother if you believe those figures I got a Vietnamese torpedo boat to sell you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 06:32 AM
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Look I'm only quoting Hitler telling Strasser that the goal of national socialism is to preserve capitalism by uniting German capitalists and workers with nationalism because your weird parents have a thing for me in Hugo Boss What specifically does Marx get wrong about economics
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 06:12 AM
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I'd have the time to come up with a better one if your horny mom and your gay, even hornier dad weren't driven to suck 24/7 but c'est la suck
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 06:06 AM
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I did, but they were propped on the top of your mom's head while she was laboriously slobbering my gross hog
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 05:04 AM
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Most of the world is capitalist, and most of it is poor. Workers in the first world are getting poorer. Without China, world poverty reduction figures are dwarved. The USSR and China doubled life expectancy, wiped out illiteracy, and fully modernized their countries in about 1/10th the time of capitalism. Similar accomplishments happened in other socialist countries And Cuba has better life expectancy and infant mortality than my US state does Capitalism only ever got better because workers foug…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 04:50 AM
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No capitalism is exactly the problem. Feminism originated as a wealthy woman's movement to gain access to the professions, and for legal equality. Wealthy women didn't work, unlike poor women who did. Woman now have access to professions, even if sexism still discourages them, and the same bourgeois rights as men--this is not insignificant, but it is insufficient. The labor and socialist movement, despite sexism, was the primary vehicle for helping women workers. In fact, socialists were some of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 11:04 PM
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An analysis of gender roles without class will produce skewed results. Just like the conception of a dictatorship being the rule of one charismatic leader, and not a complicated web of power and loyalty with different people leveraging power in different ways, seeing power as a one way street in the context of gender is also inaccurate--but it would not be accurate to say there was parity between men and women, just as there isn't parity between Generalissimo and his subordinate, even if their i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 08:46 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 08:27 PM
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To be fair, I've seen rank and file feminists make this point. Some genuinely believe this is the kind of evidence that shows what patriarchy does to men within the context of capitalism. A sexist class society pushes working class men to be driven, aggressive, and bread winners, but then denies them gainful labor and/or social welfare whenever convenient. The resulting crime then justifies state violence There's still prejudice among a lot of people all across the ideological spectrum, especial…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 08:07 PM
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The significance is that it's never been safer to be a cop in America, yet cops still kill more of us than spree killers do. If we're taking a dialectical materialist position, what pushes a state to use more lethal force, in general, is a need to resolve class antagonism by force because other, non-lethal ways of doing it are breaking down It's also possible US police are trained with a military mentality that, when combined with pervasive racial stereotyping, makes them interpret every interac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 07:59 PM
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Women who form gangs can't be any more emancipated than their male equivalents. Gangs are a last ditch effort to have community and agency in a society that undermines both. Capitalism has severely diminished the gender roles that formed in feudalism, no doubt, and the delicate life of leisure wealthy women have never applied to peasant or working women, anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 07:53 PM
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There's been film movements against this, Italian neo realism is the one I always think of
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/20 03:01 AM
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Idk about pre Christian Europe but there's a ton of trans-like stuff from all over
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 10:01 AM
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They are trying to make a movement that formed around a particular class's interests work for them, mostly working people. Feminism has mostly accomplished its goals of legal equality and suffrage, but working class women are still suffering. They think intersectionality will fix this, but this confuses the cause and effect. By rejecting every class-focused analysis as "class reductionist," they blind themselves to why female CEOs and politicians can't solve their problems. The feminist movement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 09:24 AM
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We evolved in societies where everyone contributed to the survival of their tribe. Men were more likely to engage in endurance hunting, but women didn't just stay at camp all day. They spent time in the field gathering resources, too, and men didn't spend all day hunting. They stayed at camp any helped with child care and other reproductive labor duties.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/20 12:34 PM
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"plenty of countries" that aren't the second biggest economy in the world, which is a socialist country, just as before 1991. I'm not knocking what they have accomplished, but it's not like what the USSR or China have done. Half of all concrete poured in human history has been poured by China over the last few years. Even on the small scale, pink tide countries Latin America are the regional leaders in poverty reduction, increasing literacy, access to health care and education, decrease in infan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 10:01 AM
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I agree, but only if you take feminism to its logical conclusion based on historical materialism. Any social movement can function as a springboard into class politics, because all of them ultimately are fucked over by the class system which disguises itself as other ways. It's when feminism (or anything including the labor movement) is purged of class analysis that it can be used to protect the capitalists from us
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 04:41 AM
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Capitalism is in retreat from social democracy because it is not sustainable. Social democracy came about because, frankly, the USSR defeated Nazi Germany and with them the opportunity many powerful western politicians and businesspeople saw as a way to break the labor and socialist movement. And in the post war period, there was one major capitalist power which functioned with no real competition (the US) who could bankroll rebuilding Europe and Japan. The presence of the USSR and the post war …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 04:34 AM
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All societies that aren't in crisis are totalitarian. But what you said isn't really true. China is the most dynamic economy on the planet today, and it's state planned. Even private companies have government liaisons to ensure they're in line with state planning. The USSR had problems, but so what? Every society does, and as the second socialist experiment, ever, it was only surpassed by china in rate of development, and both rocketed to second place in a fraction of the time it took capitalism…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/20 09:53 AM
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No dude. Socialism is a reorganization of political and economic power, an extension of the Enlightenment revolution against divine right and church authority into economics, to resolve thy contradictions of capitalism. The democratic republic, extended into industry. This reorganization is specifically to use the immense productive power of modern industry to directly meet the producers' needs. The board of directors isn't hired to create and increase profits through outsourcing, dummy corporat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/20 08:44 AM
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She was a communist, and they considered themselves separate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/20 02:08 AM
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Bruh when I realized they hate trans women so much because they see them as men I was even more disgusted with rad/lib fem than normal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 12:40 PM
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This is a problem in general. The overall tendency in political movements who don't go out of their way to be historically materialist is to become overrun with all types of biases. Feminism is adopted into the neoliberal framework the same as everything is, especially as it distances itself from a materialist viewpoint centered on class struggle. It just becomes another way to valorize individualism, consumerism, anti-communism, and mysticism. Women's liberation from the particular problems tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 12:38 PM
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Anti-masculinity is a neat little trick of the liberal reactionary; you can get away with open contempt for working-class men and their struggle for something as essential as the time and resources to care for their own children, as long as you smear them as deadbeat dads and shitty husbands. The idea that it’s men, not money, who are most responsible for preventing parents from devoting more time and labor to their homes and children is so astoundingly condescending and divorced from reality th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 05:32 AM
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Absolutely. These people, when not actually members of the ruling class, will defer to ruling class ideology more often than not. It's hard to explain just how effective anti communism was and is at taking radical impulses, especially ones with an ability to unify people across identity, and fraying them. Counter culture, anti-authoritarian politics, post-structuralism, individualism, and post-Marxism have all been the shit heaps that sprouted the weeds of the "neoliberal left" Lenin talked abou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 01:39 AM
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Yup, it's crazy. I sort of have an antagonism to radical feminism cuz I think all it does is repackage bourgeois feminism with radical language. For years I thought of myself as a feminist, because I believe women should be treated as individuals and that sexism is real, even after I began to read Marxist stuff. A lot of people accuse Marxism of being class reductionist (rather than accuse specific Marxists of being opportunistic sexists or racists who pick and choose what's important based on w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/20 11:05 PM
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No problem, Kollontai is a very good writer. Glad to have helped spread her work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/20 10:53 PM
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Alexandra Kollontai, dog although in her day feminism was a bourgeois movement Leaving it to the bourgeois scholars to absorb themselves in discussion of the question of the superiority of one sex over the other, or in the weighing of brains and the comparing of the psychological structure of men and women, the followers of historical materialism fully accept the natural specificities of each sex and demand only that each person, whether man or woman, has a real opportunity for the fullest and f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/20 06:13 PM
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Emotional labor is what service sector workers are expected to do, ie, pretending to be happy and never losing their temper, regardless of circumstances. Idiots on the internet took it to mean listening to your boyfriend after he had a bad day or talking to white people or whatever, but that's the purview of the idiot to misunderstand and misrepresent things. Reproductive labor is exploited by capitalism. The working class has to reproduce itself, and it does the work that makes society possible…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/20 05:42 AM
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