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If you're looking for someone to tell you what to think, then may I recommend church? There may be one in your community. Oh, trust me when I say that I'm not looking for someone to tell me what to think. However the discussions generated by my post have gone very far in widening my knowledge of TRP. I can assure you that there's merit in engaging a community. Thank you for your comment!
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:41 PM
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I will try to do better in avoiding users such as james-watson, it's just that I feel compelled to not be dismissive of another users opinions. I am trying to be open minded, but I will take into account that some comments don't seem to be worth addressing!
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:39 PM
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Therefore no opinion here is "official". Thank you for your comment! I have gathered that there doesn't seem to be an official opinion in the sub, so the side bar and the linked blogs have been immensely helpful as a starting point.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:37 PM
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Noted, thank you for your advice!
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:34 PM
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Yes, I've been trying to get better at reading things in the context of the forum. At the same time I've been trying to be as objective as possible, in that I have to approach everything I come across here in multiple directions. As to the salad bar approach, another user here has given me the same helpful advice. While I will keep that in mind, for the purposes of understanding the theory as a whole, I'm attempting to painstakingly cover as much ground as possible.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:34 PM
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Listen to them too, but know that they don't care about telling you anything. I can assure to you that I am going through the recommend blogs and other material, however I've found that a dynamic conversation is often a helpful approach. It's easier to understand theories if you prod them and observe how they react in different situations. But yes, I'm trying to incorporate as many sources as I can.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:26 PM
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Going back to my original comment, the line you quoted shows more bravado than I intended on using. I guess I got carried away towards the end of typing! I will be here lurking, but I'm not sure if I can really discuss things in other threads like I have here. A moderator kindly left up my original post because of the discussion it generated, but I get the feeling that this may be the exception.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:23 PM
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I'm afraid that I may have to engage new topics anything past a couple weeks, but I'll try to utilize as many materials that I can in the meantime. However, my comments on evolutionary psychology address how it's a tricky field in that it's hard to use evolution to completely dissect human behavior. I will try to incorporate the video series you've mentioned into my thought process.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:19 PM
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I've stumbled onto that resource and will also be going through it. I enjoy the comments from users stating that I'm on a journey of some sort, being unplugged as you put it. I try to approach all things I'm working on with an open mind, so who knows!
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:13 PM
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Consider this a place holder for my future response, forgive me as I've been busier than expected lately. You've typed out quite a lot, so I will take time addressing you properly.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:10 PM
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Yes, I've run into a variety of different users just in this thread alone. I'll keep your comment in mind in the future.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:06 PM
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I'll try and go back through the various threads I've lurked over in the past month, but to be fair other users have told me that those comments stem from people in the anger phase.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:05 PM
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Well, I know it's anecdotal Yes, and despite anecdotal evidence having a bad name in science, sometimes it's the best thing we have to build off of. Although I understand now that TRP doesn't build off of solely anecdotal evidence, it's more akin to a combination of tools that cover each others weaknesses.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:03 PM
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If someone disagrees with you we expect it to happen with argument and not downvotes I have found that to be the case with the very discussions I've had in this thread. This community is more engaging than places outside of it have made it out to be!
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 07:01 PM
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Put it another way, there's a wide variety of accepted sentiments here. I've come across that as I've dug deeper into TRP. The notion I had at the start of all of this was that everything was tied together nicely, since then I have discovered that isn't the case. Although I should have known better, most bodies of human knowledge in specific subjects have a core, and then other derivative works.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 06:58 PM
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Noted, I've learned more of the anger phase since my first post.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/16 06:56 PM
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I do think there is merit in discussing just how much humans have strayed from their evolutionary ticks. Let me again clarify here that I don't doubt evolution (some have taken my comments on evolutionary psychology to mean that). On the matter of most men not being comfortable/satisfied in relationships with extremely large women, I do agree from what I've seen that that's generally the case. However, there have been several periods of time, and places currently, where being fat doesn't hold th…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 08:35 PM
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Thank you! I've read up on concern trolling, and do realize that even if it's with honest intentions that it isn't allowed. I took a chance in hopes of having a good discussion. Do you know where I might go to in the future if I want further discussions like this one? After looking at purplepilldebate, I've decided that it isn't quite what I'm looking for. Edit: Going over the replies I've gotten, I see I've missed a suggestion to askTRP. Interesting how I've overlooked that before.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 08:12 PM
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Reading back over my comment, I did phrase that portion poorly. What I was trying to allude to was the nature vs nurture debate. Evolutionary psychology can't be used to account for every facet of human nature, and scientists themselves are wary in using it to make assertive points about why people do what they do. Believe me when I say that I'm one of the last people here that would deny evolution, it's the psychology aspect that makes it tricky. A different user jumped on me for that too, so I…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 07:50 PM
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I have class but I'll get back to this in detail later; you've misunderstood my position. I don't deny that evolutionary psychology has its merits, but there's debate within the scientific community as to how far you can interpret human nature correctly based on only evo psych.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 07:09 PM
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Very good comment! Although, I feel that I should clarify my comments regarding evolution. Here's an example that should suffice: the idea that women shouldn't branch away from certain roles such as cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, etc. Now I'm not here to cry misogyny, I'm strictly discussing theory here. So the thing is, how can we be so sure over inferences like that one when we are more than our wiring? No one here is saying that you are JUST your biological wiring. It's a foundat…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 03:37 PM
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No matter how good she is, she needs some man to guide her. You don't. Treat a bitch like a bitch, and see how that works. Experiment. Yes, I don't argue that it's possible to succeed in some areas by guiding a woman, but I don't know if that's more ascribed to a specific personality; and branching off from that, I also don't know how much of personality comes just from gender. So while that approach may work, does it work on women as a whole, and how verifiable is it outside of evolutionary psy…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 03:24 PM
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the same biological wiring That's also one of my bigger gripes, too much emphasis may be being placed on biological wiring. Making all your inferences about human nature today over mechanisms that evolved millions of years ago generally isn't accepted as hard science. It's a tricky thing to do. Humans have come a long way and it's arguable that much of our evolutionary wiring basically finished long before the rise of the Homo Sapien, so our level of sentience may tweak that whole equation. Also…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 03:15 PM
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I've seen the side bar, the theory reading portion has especially kept me busy. The thing is that it's not basic theory, it's more along the lines of human observation paired along with interpretation through past experiences. And don't get me wrong, I don't find fault with that. Much of human understanding comes from observation paired with experience. However: TRP is better than anything else I've found, but it isn't an equation or syllogism. Is one of my points. I just find it weird that for …
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 03:06 PM
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This makes sense. How many people here would you say are in the anger phase? I'd have to take that into account while lurking. The harder thing would be spotting what posts/ideas are being covertly fueled by the anger phase. Although you guys are probably pretty adept at spotting things like that by now.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 02:54 PM
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The basics are basically true The thing is, what are the basics and what are the derived principals? It's like how physics starts with fundamental variables; mass, time, distance; but then branches into derived variables ; velocity, weight, force. It seems to me that the most basic thing here is the realization that men and women just have different mating patterns. Men want to spread their genetic material, women want to couple with the best possible genetic material. That makes sense, but the …
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 02:51 PM
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Put it another way, there's a wide variety of accepted sentiments here. Ah. From what I read TRP is basically seen as the truth that people aren't willing to see, but even then things seem hazy. Has TRP been refined over the years? Do users generally hash over the main views from time to time? I'd be very interested in discussing things in this sub, but I feel like I may be too "out there" and will be seen as concern trolling.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 02:36 PM
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I just heavily added onto my comment. Can you please go over that with me as well? In case it gets deleted, do you know where I can discuss the inner workings of TRP with people who know there stuff, other than over PM? Edit: Anger phase, noted.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 02:32 PM
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Lurker here, you guys do have really, really good points. But every once in a while I see people say things like "women are an inferior, trash gender" and "women have no place in grad school". What I've been wanting to ask for a while is are these more radical users, or is this an accepted sentiment here? I feel like I should know before I go any further. Because to be honest I don't see how noticing men/women have different mating techniques automatically leads to men being superior and women b…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 02:04 PM
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