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I didn't say it's acceptable, i said it's understandable. Like if I insult you and you punch me in the face is not acceptable, but I understand why you did it. It's literally the same principle. You cheat on your gf and she spread false rumors about you? Totally unacceptable, but I understand why she did it, she's hurt and so on, you get what i'm saying. I'm not condoning the action.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 06:26 PM
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Oh sure on that I agree with you, and proops to you for raising awareness. But if I have to be totally honest, i feel that back in the day i would have just ignored you, same way I ignored my friends, and if you were to keep saying bad stuff about my gf at the time i could have punched you in the face for that lol. In hindsight you and the others would have been right, but I needed to feel that pain and broken trust on my skin to understand the lesson, no outside intervention could have helped w…
/r/MensRights18/07/25 08:35 AM
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Women build a map of control the moment they take interest in you. The female gender's entire shtick is weaving a disinformation campaign against men. Can you blame them for doing it that way to? I don't think i can. If I were biologically speaking 50% less powerfull than the opposite gender, and my goal was to hurt a man for whatever reason, I wouldn't choose a physical altercation. I would use words. The most painfull ones, i would aim to do some reputation distruction, and maybe someone else …
/r/MensRights18/07/25 08:24 AM
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Firstly… wild to get downvoted for the position that everyone is negatively impacted by war. Ye same way as everybody is negatively impacted by rape right? Or maybe there are some difference in men and women there?
/r/MensRights14/07/25 11:19 PM
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Lol, you missed the fact that i'm literally using your own damn logic, and you thought on that is that I sound like a feminist? Therefore, you sound like a feminist? because i'm applying your logic and what came out of that was a feminist talking point, curious isnt it? Because you are literally saying the same things as them, you idiot. Imagine missing the fact that i'm literally doing an internal critic of your own damn worldview and that you are literally calling yourself a feminist lol
/r/MensRights11/07/25 07:40 AM
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How about starting by not putting them in a monolith? Like i could understand if you put feminists in a monolith, because in that case you are making category about a view, about their morals, about something that can be changed, not about their assegned gender. But women? Nah i'll call you out. How can we be mad at them when they say stuff like "not a man, but always a man" when you come up with this? What just because they have boobs and pussies they are programmed to hate you? Because you hav…
/r/MensRights11/07/25 06:25 AM
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Ye a shitty place, where we become a rip off of misandrist feminist talking point that we love to shit on. No thanks, be better
/r/MensRights10/07/25 10:33 AM
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Like what? How about we don't have a moral compass based on what other people think? What are you 12? How can one blame feminist and misandrist for baseless generalization, and somehow thinking that doing the same in reverse is the way to go? So if they do it's bad if we do it's ok? That sound like feminist talking point. Get a grip with reality and be better
/r/MensRights10/07/25 10:29 AM
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I'm just a 20something dude that has no idea of what being a father and a husband means, but just reading your story made me irrationally angry, i can't even imagine how it feels living it. Like i usually would never respond to somebody asking for help without providing any actual pragmatic value, but your situation is so unjust and out of my scope that i think acknowledging how fucked up it is the best and only think one can do. Maybe posting it in some legal group would have better result? May…
/r/MensRights09/07/25 03:12 PM
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I don't know what you can do, but after reading this the cinic part of me is starting to understand why and how some people end up in crazy news story where you ask yourself how someone could do something like that...
/r/MensRights09/07/25 02:35 PM
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In a proper world, when women have role x and men have role y, it seems totally fair in his unfairness, since at least in theory women are more needed than men to repopulate: 5 women and 100 men mean almost extintion, 5 men and 100 women and we have a small village again. But now, in the world of equality we live in, yes it's just misandry at this point, you don't get to have strong and indipendent women and also women and children first, it's literally one or the other if you value consistency.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 07:01 AM
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It got shamed by feminist, dl you remember? Because qhy do you need to talk about this when I talk about that gne gne gne?
/r/MensRights24/06/25 06:55 AM
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Anger or provocation is not self defense z that's why
/r/MensRights22/06/25 06:33 AM
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It didn't work with Nora Vincent's well published book, it didnt work with her taking her own life partly/mostly because of the experiment she had done, it won't work now for some random's realization with no actual reach of any capacity. That's sad but it's also true.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:08 PM
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You're acting like the survey said 71% of men are raped. It's not saying that at all just sexual assault I clearly know that the 70% is not of raped men, but yes i'm acting like it. I'm acting like someone not in this circle that see this type of news, i'm acting as an averege nobody that would most likely not go and see the stats behind the claim. I was talking from the point of view of the averege listener that won't actually go and check the stats. Like if you heard this on the TV, without an…
/r/MensRights09/06/25 07:06 AM
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Yes but they must use this low tactis to make their point because actual and truthfull stats wouldn't support their claim, so they have to make an emotional narrative to get the message going. We are full of true stats that you could use to make your points against feminists takes, like: * gap in criminals sentences; * gap in suicides; * gap in caring organization using found on them; * gap in public debt per women capita compared to how much tax they pay, a women cost so much to the state compa…
/r/MensRights08/06/25 11:54 AM
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Why the first instinct is not to call out the bad behavior, but to make use of the bad behavior yourself?
/r/MensRights08/06/25 10:24 AM
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Yes and we don't wanna move according to feminist definition, because we disagree with them right? Here on Mens rights we disagree with emotional and not factual argumentation right? At least i hope so. Edit: like according to feminist, do you know how many time when I used to go to nightclub i was sexually harassed? Several times, because I lost count of how many time a girl would make me turn grabbing my arm without consent or speaking even a word to me prior. If it was the reverse, it could b…
/r/MensRights08/06/25 10:10 AM
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I'll start by saying that at the moment i can't actually read the study, but it smells bad, like it stinks like shit from a mile away. There is no way shape or form in which 70% of men in any part of the world have been victimised to this extent, UNLESS we consider sexual victimization garbage stuff like: she doesn't open up to me, that's emotional abuse and emotional abuse is also sexual victimization! she touched my arm without consent while passing by, that a sexual offense and sexual offence…
/r/MensRights08/06/25 06:58 AM
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I play overwatch? If you say so lol. If you have to go search for the comment history of a person to make fun of them (another type of personal attack, who would have guess?) At least do it properly lol
/r/MensRights03/06/25 07:31 AM
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Imagine someone call you out for personal attacks instead of arguing the point, and yiur response to that is incel? Lol. openmindedperson
/r/MensRights03/06/25 07:00 AM
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Do you need a 20 milion project to understand basic stuff like, i dont know, forget listing men in the group "who we serve" on your main website? Like do they really need a drawing to understand why young men are turning away from them? A 20 milion dollars drawing?
/r/MensRights30/05/25 10:50 PM
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Just imagine the outcry if a husband shoved the female Prime Minister of a country Just imagine the outcry if a husband that is 25 years older than his wife, met her when she was 15 years old and his student, shoved the female Prime Minister of a country Just the be more precise
/r/MensRights26/05/25 11:09 AM
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Willingness to keep fighting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 05:52 AM
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I would agree with you in a general sense, but you don't get to win this by "playing nice" Look at you: I bet you put a lot of work behind this post, and for what? 5 likes and literally 0 recognition whatsoever? The truth is we are using the wrong form of comunication. No one cares anymore about fact and logic, you have to tell your story from an emotional stand point, or you won't get heard. Like this is true even for twoX: one post highlighting how women in Iran have it bad and what they shoul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/25 07:41 AM
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I mean they have been called a creeps from people that they wouldn't even look at in the first place, the actual women they went for didn't consider them creeps, so who cares. Di caprio had multiple under 25 women, and I dont think they considered him a creep
/r/MensRights17/05/25 11:18 PM
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I mean we can pat ourself in the back and think this is true, that man can go and fuck whoever they want, but at the end of the day it's not true, monogamy and marriage favored men more then women, remember in the whole history only 40% of men has ever reproduce, and we know that because we have almost double female ancestor than male ones. Now I can agree that today the marriage, the courtroom and he fact that the state is involved in it have made it a bad deal for men, but until no fault divor…
/r/MensRights17/05/25 11:12 PM
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Love how even in this respons men fuck up are his own, but women are forced into masculine roles, like they don't have agency lol
/r/MensRights20/04/25 07:09 AM
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This would be hilarious if it wasn't actually sad.
/r/MensRights20/04/25 07:05 AM
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No that's not why. The reason is a simpler than that: its because you can. Just that. If you went toner policing on twox, you get banned on the spot. You do it here you get me wasting my time engaging with you.
/r/MensRights08/04/25 06:22 AM
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This totally have to do with that fact. Again i'll reiterate. 360k ppl mad about women 14 milion mad about men The 360k people are the one banned on sight for partecipation on the sub from other sub? The 360k people get people refusingto engage with them from the get go because "you posted in mra, I can already tell what kind of person you are" If a gendered sub can only talk about the same gender and that's the rule (is it?) Then start policing the 14 milion first instead of coming here in the …
/r/MensRights08/04/25 06:16 AM
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So lets recap: Op:why this sub is hated? You: this sub is not about mens right, just bashing women Me: than what about twox? You: who cares that they do the exactly same thing i'm criticizing this sub for, on a daily basis, with more 20 times the partecipation of this sub. So why for this sub talking about the other gender and not man rights is a problem when 360k ppl do it, but when 14 milion on the other side do the same is who cares? Why you are looking to solve first the problem regarding 36…
/r/MensRights08/04/25 06:11 AM
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How many post on twox are about men and not womens right?
/r/MensRights08/04/25 05:21 AM
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Let's do a quick recap than: you - It's hard because man don't open up him - no, i tell you why it's hard : it's hard because when we open up x y and z happen. you - buhu, man is mad? Who hurt you? Touched a nerve? What exactly are you shaming him for? Let's assume that yes, you in fact touched a nerve and he is hurt. Maybe a shitty women in his past judged him in an negative way for opening up? That's your big goatcha? "Are you hurt because you happen to relate with a scumbag women?" I don't ge…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 08:46 AM
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I mean they don't, but a motivated soldier is better than one who isn't no?
/r/MensRights26/03/25 08:27 PM
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I mean I love the fact that feminist come here to troll and try to win conversation with their stupid argument, since this place is the only one where you can actually argue with then without being downvoted to oblivion or straight up banned. The truth is that we at least check for each other, not always but i've seen several time post in here that kinda went to far and the people here went no, we don't agree with that. In 5+ years of browsing the top feminist subs, (twox ask fem and feminist) i…
/r/MensRights25/03/25 08:11 AM
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and why am i on this sub? because i can, because when i see bs that you like to write, i am allowed to call it out? what happened to free speech. What happened to freedom of speech? I don't know, you seems pretty fine here in the freedom of speech department, so why do you even bother asking? Is not like it's affecting you, at worst you are getting downvoted. Why don't we ask one of your favorites subreddit like twox what happened to freedom of speech? Oh I do know why we don't, because we would…
/r/MensRights17/03/25 08:46 AM
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Ahahaha
/r/MensRights02/03/25 09:17 AM
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i mean when you make a claim, you should be the one with any proof for it, i don't have to give any proof of the contrary lol. Gay men dating culture is different from heterosexual. They're very open to hook ups and casual sex. Yes, and also lesbian do. everyone on the liberal side is more open to hook ups and casual sex, this is not exclusive to gays, it must be also the case for lesbian. i would argue it's even more the case, but i have no proof of that. Like i i have no proof of other thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 09:07 AM
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yes i'm assuming it, because i think for one that most people behave very differently online and in person, for 2nd because debate is totally different than flirting, and for last because most people are not actually that stupid. Let me give an example with something that you probably disagree with, the red pill. Sure there are some idiot 20 years old that will watch andrew tate and start going on date spouting "wHaT's YoUr BoDyCoUnT?!?!" within the first 10 mins of the date, or something like "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:51 AM
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He isn't being honest nor direct. How is he not? you can't get more honest and direct than this: And then comes along some American female, maybe with a bastard, ton of debt, in her 30s and says you should rebuild life according to my whims, give up some of your hobbies, readjust your diet and accommodate me otherwise. And in return you will get what exactly? And if you have been aboard you know that there are plenty of much younger, prettier women over there that will crawl on their knees for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:26 AM
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Being honest and direct for the pourpose of a debate is the reason women dont want him? Do you think in a flirty situation with a girl he would talk like he is doing with you, someone who he is debating with oppose view? Wow, what an argument. Why are going with personal attack implying he is bad with women instead of addressing the argument? Maybe because you don't have an actual one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:41 AM
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If I have to guess which relationship are more prone to be open, gay or lesbian, i'll bet my 2 cent on lesbian. Kidding, what 2 cent, i'll bet my whole damn house on it lol. I mean even using only logic. Which sex is more likely to have an open relationship? The sex which is used to being pursued and never doing the chase, or the one that usually have to actively looking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:35 AM
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The majority of almost everything, good or bad, is done by men. Men lead in aggressive behavior, but also in protective behavior. Men lead in good and bad invention, basically all female reproduction right come from men discovery for example. Men tear down building but also build them up. You can get any topic you want, like 95% of all them have men as the leader in that regard. It's up to you kf you want to focus on the good or on the bad, in both cases you are full of examples of how men lead …
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:59 PM
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They're already feeling its effects and are personalising it. a lot of you have made this point. I DON'T CARE. Why do you all single out this case btw? children feel effect of a lot of things we don't get deep into explaining to them BECAUSE THEY ARE CHILDREN. Your children may experience poverty. Just because they experience it, you don't start introducing them to the shitshow that capitalism is, expecially as a man, where if you don't perform you fail miserably on every aspect of your social l…
/r/MensRights24/02/25 10:03 AM
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Look we are just disagreeing on a topic, dont start psicanalizing like you know me, you are talking to me since like 40 mins and you have already made so many assumption, because of your bias. This is exactly what I DONT WANT those children to be like when they grow up. Anyway you don't seems willing to keep the discussion, but if you are still in good faith, I gave my reason why i'm willing to "lie and gaslight" these children like you say in the other long response about i would digest this ki…
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:46 AM
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I don't know what the right way is. But I do know myself and i can make a truthfull introspection about me in a "what if" scenario. What if I was one of those kid being said that? Being hit with the knowledge of all the problem men face in relationship with women? Since you talk about being falsely accused, let's focus on that. Let's keep in mind that i'm and 7-8, I dont even know what an erection is, I never experienced that, same for sexual pleasure/gratification, but I do know that trusting w…
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:36 AM
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No i can't, because it's hard, and neither OP can clearly, because is asking advice. I don't have the answers unfortunately, it's an hard topic to deal with, but i'm pretty sure that basically radicalizing 2nd graders is not the way.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:12 AM
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Like, are you even aware of the manipulation you're perpetuating? Manipulation? I don't know what your childhood looked like, but when I was 7-8 i was thinking about playing soccer with friends, watching dragonball and collecting pokemon cards. Now 20 years later i'm an adult with real world knowledge about the dynamic of men and women relatedt o society, but I wouldn't have want that at fucking 8. How would you procede exactly? "See kids, this is one of the many more case of misandry you will f…
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:53 PM
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I agree, but not in this way. Warn them about how discrimination like that is not okay, and to be better than women. Like why a single instance (their first most likely) from a single woman should become a bias in the mind of these kids toward women in general, since the advice imply it with being better than them?
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:35 PM
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I agree that we should do something, but the way you are talking it seems like you are ok with trading the naivity of children to have an ammo for male advocacy, and i'm not so sure i agree. Let them grow, let them have the first gf, the first delusion in love, and than they can start to worry about this stuff. Not now
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:31 PM
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I think that the world is harsh and your job as a parent is to shield your children from it long enough until they are ready to face it. Sure if you do that for too long than you have another problem, yoir job as a good parent is to find the proper balance. Santa is the proper balance, why would you take that away from them? Staying in tipic btw, giving a gender war kind of response to me sound like this: If your son ask why he can't have the new iphone X like his friend does, and your response …
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:27 PM
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Well this is insanely accurate and also odd that it come so straight and without filter from chay gpt, putting if you were the devil seems doing the trick. I would love seeing someone not banned on either one of ask feminists /feminism/twox posting this here and see what the feminists think about it, I know it would probably be taken down but I think it's worth a try. Just for science did you do one with the prompt reversed? I may be try myself tomorrow, this "if you were the devil" thing is sma…
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:12 PM
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No just don't please, let them be innocent and naive for a bit more, they don't need to start hearing directly about sexism, misandrist and whatnot. If you still believe in santa you shouldn't start having this kind of gender-war thought of how men and women are treated differently, even if you are suffering from it like they are. I don't really have an answer to be honest, but i'm pretty sure this is not the one.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:00 PM
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Yes, a man kill a single women and its not a murder, no it's feminicide. Doesn't matter that he only had 1 single victim so no trend can be observed, no explanation are necessary. I'm not condoning the man action, but usually no one ask why. If a women is killed, no matter the reason is a feminicide. Did he murder her because she cheated, divorced and took the kids and the home that he paid for, so he has a problem with this specific woman, or he did it just because he hate women in general and …
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:01 AM
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Sure sure. Imagine needing 16 days for coming up with a smart response, failing miserably, pretending you didn't see it, despite entering on reddit several times in the meantime, and then saying i'm so invested? After you response to a 2 week old post? Ahah the delusion. Have a good day sir/miss.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:49 AM
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i can see in your profile that since my comment you have like 10+ other comment in different days, but sure you didn't check reddit in 16 days. anyway if you want to apologies for something, apologies for your poor and dumb argument, that btw is the reason why i point out the 16 days. is not waiting 16 days the problem, is waiting 16 days and countering your own argument while thinking it was mine instead, while thinking you said something smart. if you want to apologies for something, apoligies…
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:36 AM
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I mean you dont need to be sherlock, you just need to open my profile to gather that. I was more curious of why would you ask that in response to what I wrote, it's confusing me lol
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:31 AM
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Yes...?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:29 AM
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sshhh, we can't say that, or they can't use anymore the argument "yes but who forced men to war? other men, therefore feminism has no duty to appy equality in this situation" turns out that when women have the ultimate power they abuse it more, who could have guess.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:19 AM
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You say a lot of women have been harassed by men, therefore is ok for them to treat them like possible monsters. I don't agree, but let's say I do for the sake ho argument. if only you could actually read, you would understand that it doesn't make sense to use this argument against me because this is not my position. what i did was granting the other side position for sake of argument, but i'm not surprised you didn't catch that. EDIT : you needed 16 days to not only make a dumb argument, but a …
/r/MensRights19/01/25 10:08 AM
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And? That child is half mine too, if he dies i'm suffering as well, but it's ok because she consent to have more risk? But if the problem come from my end of reproduction, then we have a problem don't we?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 09:02 AM
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So its ok if a women choose a risk pregnancy by herself at 35, no problem with that, but if the risk come from bad quality sperm then it become a problem? Only then? Ok. Make 0 sense but sure.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 08:13 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/jul/17/alarming-rise-in-female-inmates-must-be-addressed-womens-rights-summit-told Apparently since 2000 the women incarceration rate went up by 60%, compared to the 22 % of men. Looking at this it seems to me that the more we become egalitarian, the more women get "power" on a society level, they start to abuse it the same way the evil and patriarcal men in power do in their view. To be fair i pulled this stat from a 2 minute research, i didnt…
/r/MensRights15/01/25 04:36 PM
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How do people prove hate Crime against women, ir any other hate crime? What are the proofs beyond doubt needed when they declare that a hate crime has been commited, if 100% of multiple targets belonging to the same group doesn't constitute proof beyond doubts? What do you need, a stabbed corpse with a signed letter along with it saying i hate X?
/r/MensRights11/01/25 12:26 AM
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While both are doing wrong, who is more in the wrong? The drug dealer or the one who buy drugs? And if you wanted this to stop, would you look at the consumer or the drug dealer?
/r/MensRights11/01/25 12:06 AM
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I would love to post this under every single comment that says misandry doesn't kill, but i'm banned over there. (Probably for stuff like this lol) There was one post yesterday on twox asking why women don't hate men more, since they should according to OP, after all men do orrible stuff all the time and misandry doesn't kill like misogyny, so is not even a big problem.
/r/MensRights09/01/25 08:51 AM
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It's more reasonable because you can't go there "to debate" like you are free to do here, right now. You get banned on the spot for that. Ofc course the sub result more reasonble if every opposite view isn't even allowed to exist. If we are so delusional, prove it. We give you all the chance to prove us wrong all the time, since you can freely comment. At worst you get downvoted. Back to you. You assert stupid shit like: woman had the short end of the stick in the past, and the inplication is th…
/r/MensRights09/01/25 08:40 AM
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No i'm not talking about personal experiece, luckly i didn't had this type of experience in my life. What I was saying is that 2 women friends, if one of them has accuse someone of SA and the other doesn't know the truth, she will never make a positive claim about lying: if she only has her words and no proof whatsoever, she will likely just believe her. To make a negative claim such she is actually lying and i know it, she kinda MUST know for sure, or she wouldn't make a fake accusation claim, …
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:50 AM
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I mean maybe i'm generalizing, but on a bounce of probabilities a women that doesn't know the truth will not say she lied, she will say she believe her.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:36 AM
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No they obviusly don't. They just exist in this climate in which shitting on man is the norm, an enviroment were men have such low moral and are so bad that if you ever found yourself alone in a forest, being alone with a wild bear would be preferable than a random men. I mean if you can bring a lot of people to think that a fucking savage killing machine such a bear is safer than men, do you really find hard to believe that these people find hard even admiting they like men, and they would rath…
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:19 AM
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But the topic here is not about different classes, is about the differences at the top level. Yes we dont let college player play with nba player, as we dont let people from different weight class fight together, but we are not talking about that here. The topic in discussion is only about the top tiers of some sports, in this case sports in which physical is not an advantage, such as chess and others. The topic is that at the pinnacle of these sports in which men and women shouldn't have any di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:52 PM
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If people do have genetic advantages then it makes sense to separate them. I agree. After all, didn't you hear about all of those freak of nature like Lebron or Giannis? Poor them, truly a sad story they have: despite training and putting a lot of effort for several years, they are not allowed to join the NBA because they are genetically gifted. Tragic if you ask me, can you imagine what could they have done if they had let them in? Oh wait, i can! They would dunk and put their balls on the face…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:30 AM
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Would you use the same excuse if they were escaping from a black man instead of just a man? You say a lot of women have been harassed by men, therefore is ok for them to treat them like possible monsters. I don't agree, but let's say I do for the sake ho argument. How this would be any different from someone that has anectodal bad experience in their life against black people, for example they stole her wallet 3 times already? Is she in her right when she assume the next black person walking dow…
/r/MensRights03/01/25 08:14 AM
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You say that pointing out NotAllMen derails the feminist narrative. I agree. But it's also unarguably true. Which then beg the question, am i right to derail a narrative to point out the truth? generally i would say yes myself,, but then i test it with true situation and i find that i disagree with myself lol. You seems someone who is reasonable to talk to, so i'll copy paste the same question i did for the most upvoted comment (that now is delated because he couldn't answer my question without …
/r/MensRights30/12/24 02:36 PM
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Yeah my bad, reading it back again i'm a bit rude for no apparent reason. to be totally honest i was in a "discussion/disagreement" mode for the last couple of replies and this is part of this. As i said i agree with what you said, i didn't went into the topic at large because i wanted to focus about the "by other man part". i expanded a bit about the not all men part and it took 95% of the comment talking about that, becoming the main topic and ironically derailing the conversation from the "by…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 02:22 PM
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i mean i agree with you, but what is the point of doing that? let's put yourself in the other shoes for a second, try this little experiment for me. Let's use the exact same example you gave me for this. some girl made a post about how her friend was raped. well she couldve just stopped there, but no, she started adding how all men are monsters. Now clearly this is a bad experience to have, so some cope has to be expected. Now this cope is a harmfull one, in this case all men are monster. Do you…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 01:59 PM
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This in an interesting take and probably true, since it hold its logic in both istances i talked about. Wow, after 40 comment someone also adressed the "by other men" part, which was the actual point i was trying to get on,so thank you, if i could upvoted more then once i would.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 01:34 PM
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yes i agree, when did you get the idea that i didn't? the point is that is bad in both cases because you are derailing the discussion, not why you are doing it. even if it flawled and i agree with you on that, i can also understand how someone else could reach a different conclusion then mine, even if it's a wrong one you are still caring about victims, i can assume you are coming from a good place and also reconize that pointing it out during a male suicide discussion is wrong noonetheless. Wha…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 01:30 PM
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Make sense, and maybe i even agree with you on this, i'll give it more thought. Thanks for your answer. Just notice the username checks out lol
/r/MensRights30/12/24 01:19 PM
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Fair take, after all the same in the way saying not all men could invalidate someone feeling, not saying it on the flip side could validate the feeling of someone that might start see themselves or other men being monster just for being men. It didn't occur to me because i wouldn't never hold that line of thinking for myself or for other men, but this doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. But then again, if the problem is I don’t trust people to be smart enough to just think X in only related…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 12:35 PM
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Can you generalize the kkk? Sure you can. Can you generalize Neonazis? 100% I mean that the point of discussion i guess, and that's why we have different opinion on this. If you equate feminism to kkk and neonazis, not only it's ok to not wanting to understand them, you should do that. But i disagree with it, sure feminism on avarage is bad, but is it that level od bad you are paiting out here while comparing there to kkk and neonazi? Let me ask a couple of question: What is the % of feminism th…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 12:16 PM
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i'll say that it depend on the situation, in other response similar to this i gave a more dept answer, but in short there are times in which is bad taste pointing it out, other times is totally ok, usually when the prompt is a wild generalization with no data or stats to back it up. But saying it first without respoding to any wild take, for example under a article about how women get SA more often then men, is bad taste.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 12:05 PM
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As i responded to the first comment, it's about the situation, and in the one you described it's clearly ok to say Not all X: if it is in response to toxic rhetoric, all good. But saying for example in any situation in which is there any proper information, stats, or if it is about a specific person, you have to admit it's bad faith, and lurking in their sub i've seen both, sadly the get both downvoted and lump in the same category in feminist subs, but that's another story. I'm inventing now, b…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:58 AM
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Of course is not accetable, but is them having shitty behavior a good reason to have a shitty behavior back, even a more mild one? For example, would it be accetable to respond back to a women saying "kill all men" with "beat all women"? the first is clearly worst then the 2nd, but does this make it ok?
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:42 AM
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I mean only because one generalization is a worst generalization then the other, it doesn't make generalizing ok, it's wrong in both cases. Are feminist saying crazy shit about all men? Sure Is that a good reason to generalize all feminist because some/a lot of them do a worst type of generalization?No, generalizing is bad all the time. Is not like a feminist generalizing men (let'sa say bad 10/10) give you a pass to do a generalization back, even one that is not as bad, such as generalizing onl…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:36 AM
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So at the end of the day malicious intent, guess that's the only answer.... kinda sad
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:23 AM
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the equilence is the derailing of the conversation, not why you do it. If you talk about women sexual assult, and a man start saying not all men, you are end up talking about not all men instead of women SA. if you talk about male suicide, and a woman start going about female 3x bla bla bla, you are now talking about how that is just a cry for help while men one matter more because we actually go troghout it, and same way as before, you are not talking about the male victim anymore, now you are …
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:20 AM
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Well, then you better learn that there is no conversation to have with people that hate you. A black person shouldn't be asked to understand the reasons of the kkk. Fair take again, but if you think this way, and say stuff like this: A men shouldn't have to understand the reasons of misandrists. The common theme among all its flavours remains misandry. Your view is the same of a radical feminist: all men rapist, therefore i don't need to even try to understand them; all feminist misandrist, ther…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:16 AM
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I mean, if you think saying not all men is fine, then you must also agreed that saying women actually trying suicide more, therefore women most effected is fine to say while talking about male suicide. Either you agree to both, (and i don't think you do) or you have some reflection to do on the topic. Being radicalized because the other side is it's just stupid reactionary logic, but you do you.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:05 AM
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btw can i ask you if you actually read the whole post or you if instead you started responding as soon as you assumed i'm a feminist because the first couple of paragraph? If you actually took your time to read the post, you would have notice that it was not about NOT ALL MEN, but about how feminist using BY OTHER MEN as a derailing tactics while at the same times blaming men for doing the same, so why don't you address that instead of going fuck me as soon as you smell a little bit of feminism …
/r/MensRights30/12/24 11:00 AM
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Fair take, but i still think that trying to understand the other side, expecially how they think is the only way to set up a proper conversation that may lead to changes in mentality. I'm too young to already have the mentality of litetally not beliving anything they say, maybe you think it's a naive mindset, and maybe you are right, but isn't it kinda sad and hopeless moving toward life this way?
/r/MensRights30/12/24 10:48 AM
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I mean it also depend on the contest, if its about a generic statment someone said, like all man are rapist or something along that level of stupidity, it's totally fine as a response. But I think doing it on something like a post about the rate of women being SA it bad taste: it is true women make the highest victim of that, pointing out that are you are not doing it add nothing to the conversation. The same way it doesn't add anything to the conversation when feminist says women try suicide mo…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 10:36 AM
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You took 2 hour to respond only to adress the edit part (adding basically nothing btw), conviently leaving aside every other logical and factual point that i made, because you know you have nothing of substance about that and that you are wrong. No instead you only respond the the tiny opinable portion of my comment, and the only one that you could tie to emotion and use that to walk away from a logical argument. Why dont you tackle all the other point i wasted my time to adress, and be for real…
/r/MensRights28/12/24 03:22 PM
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You think nurses and teachers are less important to society than construction workers? I’d say the opposite No i don't think that, if you read what i wrote i said that bar nursing and teaching, all the other jobs are useless job that once were entry level jobs for men who would rise in the carrier, now they are placeholder jobs for women with no ambitions for higher paying jobs. To add onto this, many women plan to have children in the future therefore it would be futile for them to spend many y…
/r/MensRights28/12/24 12:30 PM
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https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/occupations-decades-100 Look at this fantastic site, you can see for yourself the occupation women took since 1920. Look at how with the rise of feminism since the 70' with all the equality talk that there is now, how in the last 50 years, the most occupied position are teacher, nurses and home aid. Imagine being constantly on top of the academic space, with a number of women getting a degree that rise by the year, and somehow the more the society become abou…
/r/MensRights28/12/24 11:58 AM
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Well you ask me what i did for society, so i'll ask you the same: what are you doing for society? what insane discovery did you make? You like all other women after all. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/occupations/most-common-occupations-women-labor-force Since the time women are allowed to study and work, despite making almost 60% of the graduate in college, their occupation is literally the same as 200 years ago, with some differences that are caused by the different times, but they are b…
/r/MensRights28/12/24 09:35 AM
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Because most people can spot sarcasm even if the guy didn't put the /s at the end of it.
/r/MensRights27/12/24 09:56 AM
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I mean you are making a bad faith argument here. I see feminist saying all the time that their mission is equality and that equality will also benefit men, like some say about abortions right for example. Mra are seeking equality as well, but basically no one of us also claim that the equality will benefit women as well: on the contrary the majority of the stuff we fight for is basically damaging women in a sense. I'll give you some examples but there are a lot more. Women get lighter senteces f…
/r/MensRights04/12/24 10:34 AM
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The police doesn't care because "we live in a patriarcal world in which men are seen as conqueror who crave sex and therefore are not seen as victims when SA by a women" Of course this is bullshit, but let's be charitable and say we agree that this is actually true. A 12 old boy is a CHILD, NOT A MAN!
/r/MensRights04/12/24 09:47 AM
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But it is the point, because the algorithm is at work even with all of what you just said. As i said i'm not from the states, but during the election i stumbled upon a video of Kamala past in which she shown clearly anti male retoric, it basically was her laughing and dismissing a man asking about more found about men rights and mental health, saying that what the guy was saying wasn't really a concern neither was actually happening. I bet not a single women/feminist on the left saw that video, …
/r/MensRights03/12/24 10:48 AM
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You know what the problem here is? I usually browse stuff regarding men. I assume from your view that you consume content similar to mine but regarding women. When the algorithm see my stuff, it ask itself: what will give him the most engagement? The answers usually is some type of personal attack aimed at men from women to instill an emotional response in me, and I bet something similar happen to you. I may be seeing a women beating a man and getting away with it, you may see a man financial ab…
/r/MensRights03/12/24 09:42 AM
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I'm not actually from the USA so I can't really say, but i'm not talking about politics retoric aimed for radical or from people who watch podcast and stuff like that. Just normal people. Let's say you have an avarage conservative single man in his 30, he get off from work and go to the bar with his single friends to relax a bit. Do you really think shitting on unknown boss babes is what they really need after a long day of work? I think that most likely people they don't even know or care about…
/r/MensRights03/12/24 09:15 AM
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A lot of criminals and violent people come from single parent household, mostly from single mothers while it appear that children staying with single fathers have basically the same outcome of a 2 parent household. Now correlation doesn't mean causation, but it seems that single mothers have a lot of trouble with instilling discipline in their children, and feminism surely didnt help at decreasing the number of single mothers out there, in fact it did the opposite.
/r/MensRights03/12/24 12:55 AM
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At best they don't want to date them for whatever personal reason, do you really see men being upset about women they don't know choosing carrier instead of children? I dont. Maybe religious people do, but that would apply for women as well
/r/MensRights03/12/24 12:23 AM
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Thanks for the totally unrelated answer without actually adressing my question. Better move the goalpost to another topic instead of sticking to the one where you are being proved wrong and incoherent right? Why i had a feeling that you would respond exactly like this?
/r/MensRights02/12/24 09:08 AM
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it's basically a tautology right? "if you care about other men, you must be not having sex with women" Just out of curiosity, is this also applicable to feminism? "if you care about other women rights you are a femcel unable to attract any men right?"
/r/MensRights02/12/24 08:16 AM
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Dont you really see how poorly that sound when you say it out loud? What if I were to go on the feminist sub posting basically about how can i put men above women in my school without having people noticing it and giving me crap for it, the sub would be all up in arms, but i guess if we are the one commenting about it, it's incel retoric right?
/r/MensRights02/12/24 07:59 AM
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I mean, you could love and be loved without getting married no?
/r/MensRights22/11/24 12:47 AM
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Looking at your post history until yesterday, this is one of your comment on askliberal "Yeah this sub is up there on my list of favorites. This, Politics, all the gig work subs, and a few others. I just starting posting in the men's rights sub but honestly mostly to fuck with toxic males." Just want to point out that you are allowed to do that here, you will probably get downvoted,but you can do it and get the debate out of it. Try doing it in some other subreddit like askfeminism or feminism, …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 10:49 AM
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It's like saying you can't be attracted and then lose attraction after you know the person better. A women find someone at a party, she get along with him, she likes him, and they end up having sex on the first night. Then she learn he is jobless. Are you saying she won't lose attraction to him? Now same way but reverse the role. Man find someone at a party, they vibe and like each other, they have sex on the first night. After that they talk and she say to him that she is a porn star/ the town …
/r/MensRights24/07/24 11:28 PM
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I mean at the end of the day every couple decide what is best for them, I just said it is reasonable, because it is, what did I say that is not true?
/r/MensRights24/07/24 11:19 PM
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No, it's perfectly reasonable, and the reason it's simple, and it's rooted in biology. Looking from the men lens, if the women is virgin you know that the child it's yours, it was the only method to ensure that till like 5 minutes ago, when we invented paternity test, but the biology inside us doesn't know that yet. That's why virgin/low bc women are valuable to men, because the likelihood that the child is actually yours is higher with them, that's where this preference stems from. But what abo…
/r/MensRights24/07/24 10:42 PM
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I agree and don't agree. While I think it's a bit sad, it happen to be the case that post like the recent one about insane expectations on the first date are the type of post that brings new members in, and while post like that don't help per se, they help in the sense that the next time a signature is required for a change there will be one more, the next time a post that raise awareness from Tim the man (or whatever is called) will have even 1 upvote more, and maybe we will be able reach more …
/r/MensRights22/07/24 07:03 PM
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I mean, if you take the most basic idea of feminism (equality of the 2 gender) you could argue that a phrase like the "future is female" is basically the opposite of that, leaning on radical feminism ideology, so of course asking that to just women in general you won't find to many agreeing with that, you are asking if avarage women agree to a radical point of view, them not agreeing with that it's just logical, most people in any movement don't align with the radical portion of it, and you lite…
/r/MensRights22/07/24 07:17 AM
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Well, while I could agree that this sub can be anti feminist, at least you can have a discussion here while holding a different view of the people in the sub, instead of getting insta banned for daring to hold a different view from feminist subs. Hell in some of them you don't even need to comment there, just on the basis that you already commented/ joined specific subs you will get banned from the get go
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/24 07:01 AM
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Chivalry is not an act toward womenas a whole, is a treatment reserved for ladies, and I can't even remember the last time I saw one. Call me when it happen, I would love the sight of a unicorn
/r/MensRights20/07/24 08:02 AM
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You don't, but if you ever find someone IRL that you can actually debate, stop doing that and instead try to be with her and eventually marry her lol, you just found an unicorn that is capable of logical thinking and admitting when she is wrong, you don't want to waste that for a gotcha moment lol Kidding aside, 99% of women speak emotion, not logic, so you have to change your language the same way you would when speaking with someone that doesn't speak English, you have to step down at their le…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:58 AM
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Bold of you to assume that those feminist want family, husband and kids. I mean, after all having a family and duty towards it is literally the opposite of being strong and independent.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 07:32 PM
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I mean I have seen article about him and his daughter talking from outside of America, so I don't really agree with you, it has been covered. If you mean here in reddit, I can agree with you to that I didn't see much coverage at all.
/r/MensRights18/07/24 05:53 PM
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Because leasure time activities are not something she can benefit from, simple as that.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 06:34 AM
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Yes exactly, beside English is not even my first language, and not a single comment actually responded to any of the example I gave, all of them got caught up in grammar nazi stuff like managing, comunicating and stuff like that, so I got annoyed and decided to gave up at some point. From my POV it was very clear that my focus was the distinction between just telling how you feel with words vs expressing them with action and actually let you emotions out, which are clearly 2 different things, an…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 11:03 PM
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I agree, I touched the subject on cmv, oh boy I clearly shouldn't have done that. If you want to know what people think outside of this subs on this topic, look at this : https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1dwlgra/cmv_emotional_inteligence_is_not_what_people/?rdt=39923
/r/MensRights11/07/24 09:17 PM
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What is hard to understand? I don't get how can you be naive to think that sucj a system could be taken down. Let's say you decide, as a indipendent nation, to stop the SS. Then let's your neighbors decide to keep it, and also to invade you. How are you gonna face the disparity in numbers? With thoughts and preyers? If even 1 single nation decide to go the SS route, every confining nations MUST do the same, or the worst could happen. Then the same. Apply for the one near them, and the one near t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 10:47 PM
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Because if only the evil patriarchy would have let them study and improve in the past, they would have done 1374939% of the inventions, don't you know?
/r/MensRights09/07/24 03:22 PM
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did you even read what i wrote?
/r/MensRights20/06/24 04:37 PM
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The downvotes are because people recognize that it's not an achievable idea, because if you don't have selective service, and you happen to be, I don't know, Ukraine, and Russia does instead, you are fucked. This could work only in lala land, where all people live happy lifes holding hands together. In the real word, you only need a few nations that decide to not agree with abolishing selective service, and nearby nation MUST do the same a that point, and then the one nearby them, and so on and …
/r/MensRights20/06/24 04:23 PM
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Still nothing?
/r/MensRights19/06/24 06:46 PM
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You don't see the point I'm making. I agree with you that suicide is linked to privilege, you can see that just by looking at the fact that 3rd world countries have lower suicide rate than first world countries, you don't need a study to understand that privilege and suicide are actually correlate, everyone with a brain agree that it's true, no problem with that. The problem is that in point A, you say that women actually have it worst when we talk about mental health because the number of attem…
/r/MensRights19/06/24 03:17 PM
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The best part is not even posted, you can go watch it in the 4b movement sub reddit. after point A, in the first screenshot, there is a point B, that correlate suicide with being privilege : white people commit the highest number of suicide, we kwno white people are privilege by default, expecially white men, so she make the correlation between suicide and privilege. Point A : women actually try suicide 3 times more, beside that they don't use more effective method because they think what effect…
/r/MensRights18/06/24 07:38 AM
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Were I guess here is were think different. I want to hope that being an open minded women and being a feminist isn't necessarily mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 06:33 PM
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So they get no excuses. So long as men's input doesn't matter they are running a supremacist movement by default. I wasn't excusing them I was looking for a way to reason with them. Only by being willing to critically question their own ideological framework and by being open to the humanity of the opposition. Which some are willing to do, but from what I can see it is not very many Ye I agree, that's the true problem, and when you both think you are right and have the moral high ground it's ver…
/r/MensRights11/06/24 06:19 PM
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do you think mainsteam feminist organization are moderate? because i don't think that moderate feminist are the one bringing down other feminist that care and sympatyze with men, i think i ìt's the vocal extreme side that does that, no? at least i hope so.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 06:01 PM
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i guess i'm arguing again with someone that only read thet title and tldr, that does make sense. have a nice day, no reason to keep discussing with you
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:58 PM
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Because your conclusion is that they are still "aiming for equality" No, my conclusion is that's WHY THEY THINK they are still "aiming for equality", not that they are actually doing it. either my english suck (not native speaker) or you didn't actually understand what i wrote.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:53 PM
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I agree, that's why i say most of the time. as you can see i covered mostly topic regarding the relationship situation or everyday life, but if we talk about more important stuff, of course there are inequality that there are more important, like the sentence gap, the family court, suicide rate and so on. the point of my post is trying to understand how they think, But if a feminist doesn't agree withthe things mentioned before she's an extremist, so there is already nothing to discuss with them…
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:50 PM
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Why saying that i think to understand the reason why feminist think a certain way imply that i'm defending them? are people even reading my post or what?
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:36 PM
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Guess i should have picked a better title to have a reasonable discussion and not appear like ragebait, but i didn't think it was enough to stop people from actually reading it. you call bait shit what i wasted 2 hours to write with articulate toughts, but you do you, i can't force you to read it, that for sure.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:34 PM
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This is better TLDR then mine. I agree with you, basically this, but the point is this : they believe aiming for equality is enough for them to be "actually aiming for equality", and when you have this mindset, how can you be convinced by MRA that you are actually in the wrong as a feminist?
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:31 PM
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understanding why someone think the way they think is not the same as thinking is okay to think that way. i can understand why basic nazi soldier did what they did, that doesn't mean i agree or excuse them in any way.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:26 PM
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men i hope we were better here then just reading the title and commeting, but anyway, i guess there is no point in arguing with you if didn't even have the decency to actually read what i wrote. Im MRA and think that feminist is anything but aiming for equality, but you would know it if you actually read the post.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:23 PM
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i don't ignore it, i think feminism is anything but equality, but when you have a different view on a topic, you have to try and put yourself in the other shoes to understand how they think. What i'm saying is that i don't agree with feminism, but at least i think i now understand better why feminist think how they think.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:19 PM
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i agree, but tell the truth, you didn't even read it right? you looked at the title and assumed this was pro feminist stuff? because it's not.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 05:16 PM
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I mean, I know that in some countries as a man you can decide to not join selective service and even actual war if you are willing to either get a % in tax increase for x years for the selective service, or straight out pay a flat sum, usually around 1+ year of avarage salary to get exempted from your duties. Women all over the world are exempted from this just because, so if we don't think that women should fight in the combat role, at least we could consider something like this, it would be a …
/r/MensRights10/06/24 04:35 PM
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Should a man have done something for mens rights before someone care about his mental health?
/r/MensRights03/06/24 08:25 AM
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Well while i agree with you in a general sense, i want to specify that i don't think that i got SA 50 times; what i meant is that we shouldn't consider this a case of SA, because context matter. It's obvius that if you want to move on a crowded space, you are bound to touch someone without their permission, so that shouldn't count as SA, but on some statistics, situation like this are considered SA, and it's insane. Like for example, you are in the office and you are working on the PC, and your …
/r/MensRights31/05/24 10:30 AM
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Well i don't know for grape, because that is more of a well defined situation, but if we talk about SA, according to what is considered sexual assualt... yes i bet more then 90% of women have gotten SA in their life. Having said that, according to what is considered sexual assualt... (stuff like unwanted sexual touch on the arm, shoulder and what not) i've been SA more the 50 times. In a single night at the disco. You know how many people passing by touched by arm, or rubbed themselves on my but…
/r/MensRights31/05/24 10:13 AM
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I don't know, but If I were the one claiming to be equal to a group 24/7, what I would do is... I don't know, actually being uqual to them, doing the same stuff they do, for starters?
/r/MensRights27/05/24 07:53 AM
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Ye how sad they are, they let you talk and then downvote you, the audacity. they should do like any feminist subs, straight to remove your comment and ban you if you happen to disagree with them, that would be a better approach to a discussion right?
/r/MensRights22/05/24 05:36 AM
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Well like a better comment said in this post, I didn't left the left, the left left me
/r/MensRights15/03/24 08:13 AM
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Well I for sure did, but not specifically misandry related, , just the whole woke culture in general. Somewhere I read something that stuck with me, that went along the line of : if you are under 25 and you don't vote left, you don't have an heart. If you are over 25 and you don't vote right, you don't have a brain.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 07:07 PM
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Ye they are basically the same lmao This was a story from several years ago, we live in Italy so I don't think he knew the comedian, I know for sure he really broke up with his gf, but it's also possible that he made up the reason why getting inspiration from that, who can really tell lol But I assume (and hope) people tell me the truth when sharing personal fact about them
/r/MensRights14/03/24 07:00 PM
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Is it? I know the comedian name but never saw any materials of him What a coincidence lmao
/r/MensRights13/03/24 10:01 PM
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Well I don't have a story to share myself, but to give you an anecdotal example that happened to a friend of mine, one time him and his gf were smoking weed while having that kind of deep conversation that you have while being high, such as meaning of life and so on, and and some point she ask what his deeper fear was. Him, being high and stupid decide to answear, he told her that what scare him the most was the idea of aging alone, becoming that grumpy lonely old man bothered by the sound of ch…
/r/MensRights13/03/24 06:17 PM
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