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I am done with all kinds of misogyny. I love everyone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:16 AM
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I’m sorry. I want healing and love. I am done with misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:15 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:16 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:16 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:16 PM
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I am sorry. I want to be better. I want to redeem myself. I respect women, I respect men. I respect radfems, incels, and villains. I respect everyone now. I want us to all love and forgive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:43 AM
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I am DONE with misogyny. Watching Jamie Lee Curtis in Freaky Friday made me like women again. It was wrong to take my frustrations with certain aspects of favoritism shown to women and turn it into resentment and prejudice against 4 billion innocent people. Please forgive me for any hurt I have caused. I strive to be the best person I can be and to love everyone Thank you Jamie Lee Curtis I love you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:58 AM
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Why didn’t Girl Scouts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:54 AM
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I hope they do. Girl Scouts would be so upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:53 AM
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I did in my OP. Didn’t you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:53 AM
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Congress.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:53 AM
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I disagree. There are very few people in the west who are fundamentalist Catholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:51 AM
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Yes. So what is your issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:51 AM
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I posted about it a few days ago, check my post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:50 AM
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Huh? Women haven’t been excluded from anything in my lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:50 AM
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Did you not read my OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:50 AM
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What does that matter? The US isn’t the world’s only country
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:49 AM
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Do you have proof of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:49 AM
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Whenever we had a male-only space, feminists demanded access. Remember Congress?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:49 AM
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I didn’t know this. Thank you for informing me. They don’t belong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:48 AM
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Fair enough, but you know what I mean by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:48 AM
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I would assume there are still friars in conservative monastic communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:47 AM
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So close! Those are monks!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:47 AM
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But how did that society function worse than our modern “egalitarian” society?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:45 AM
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That is factually incorrect. That is not what happened. I’d rather have been a woman in Ireland in the 1980s than in the migrant-filled modern days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:42 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:41 AM
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They have contracts with the bakery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:27 AM
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I will concede that point, but the vast majority of males aren’t like that, so there’s no reason to treat us all with suspicion because of it. Are you willing to concede my point that circumcision is immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:27 AM
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I want men to be treated equally to women. Whether that’s through an equal number of specific spaces or no specific spaces, either is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:26 AM
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Because they didn’t like being excluded but then they turned around and did it to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:25 AM
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The issue is women have access to more spaces than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:24 AM
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Men are bigger and stronger than women, though, so when a man is attacked by a woman, he’s less likely to be hospitalized than the other way around. That doesn’t change the fact that he was still attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:05 AM
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Men underreport domestic and sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:50 AM
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Stats cannot be trusted in this instance because men underreport compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:37 AM
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Regardless of how feminist a family is, a girl has the same access to generational wealth as her brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:19 AM
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Then Boy Scouts should be allowed to sell cookies too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:01 AM
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Because it’s now only women who are allowed to have private groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:49 PM
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I’m not even sure that’s true. Women are just as bad. Have you heard of Tierney Gearon?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:39 PM
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The Catholic Church has very little power these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:38 PM
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What about the women who forced themselves into male spaces all those years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:38 PM
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Then why did women force men to include them decades ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:37 PM
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There is no patriarchy. Women are dominant in the modern US
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:37 PM
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So then why don’t the Girl Scouts open up to boys as a good faith gesture?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:34 PM
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Elizabeth II was Queen for 70 years. Mexico has a female prime minister now, as does Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:34 PM
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It’s because birth control and abortion do not benefit society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:51 PM
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Unlike ethnic and religious groups, women belong to mixed-gender family groups, so they do not lack access to generational wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:51 PM
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Because the historical inequality doesn’t affect you. Women are part of mixed-gender families, so past discrimination against women doesn’t impede them from building generational wealth the way past discrimination against black people does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:50 PM
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We let them into politics, business, and education. The least they can do is let us into gyms and scouting troops.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:48 PM
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And has giving women social/political power benefited society in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:47 PM
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Then why wasn’t Girl Scouts the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:46 PM
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In the interest of being inclusive and not discriminating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:42 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:41 PM
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They have a different role than priests, but they are cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:41 PM
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But the Catholic Church has very little power over modern western society. What even is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:16 PM
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Were women discriminated against when we didn’t let them into the workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:15 PM
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It’s still an immoral thing to choose, do you agree? It’s worse than anything western females routinely endure, that’s for sure. Female cheating has worse consequences, though, since it means a man can wind up being duped into raising a child that isn’t him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:15 PM
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I don’t agree with segregating bathrooms and locker rooms. Sports makes sense because of differences in physical strength. Every adult was once a child, so that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:14 PM
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Exactly! Especially since women are not a hereditary group. You could argue that an ethnic group being marginalized a century ago has negatively impacted their ability to have generational wealth today. But women have fathers, so that argument doesn’t hold for them. Q: What’s the difference between a cow and women not being able to vote until 1920? A: You can’t milk a cow for more than a century
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:12 PM
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It’s sad that you see someone objecting to being discriminated against and call it “just whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:09 PM
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The Sunday school I attended wasn’t segregated by gender. We never had men’s small groups, and Bible study is more of a Protestant thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:08 PM
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And you and I both know an equivalent male sub complaining about women wouldn’t be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:08 PM
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I will, once you point out where all the male nuns are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:07 PM
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Women can be nuns, and Mary is held in high esteem by Catholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:06 PM
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So then, better for women to have to deal with weird comments than for men to be excluded. Better a temporary discomfort than a permanent exclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:06 PM
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You might get angry comments, but that’s different from being completely excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:04 PM
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I don’t think women are more polite. Women are less likely to be outwardly aggressively hostile (think Anakin on Mustafar), but are far more likely to be passive-aggressive (think Mean Girls)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:03 PM
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I think it’s being blown out of proportion. I’ve had random women grope my ass at bars. Didn’t do any harm. Shouldn’t bodily autonomy apply to boys to? The WHO is not being honest, they’re trying to appeal their sponsors, many of whom come from MGM cultures. MGM causes severe physical and psychological harm, and I have never encountered a feminist who is willing to admit that it is a moral abomination without saying “muh FGM is worse”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:02 PM
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Then why couldn’t men have our spaces with just us? Women are almost never excluded from mainstream spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:00 PM
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Because I am tired of seeing all the double standards in American society favor groups I’m not part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:59 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:59 PM
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Why should any organization be allowed to discriminate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:40 PM
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Mothers are 12 times as likely as fathers to choose to inflict circumcision, so men have a reason to not trust women. I can’t think of any comparable reason women would have to not trust men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:28 PM
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It’s not a deflection, it’s a valid question you have yet to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:27 PM
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Not sure. Why do women always want into men’s spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:24 PM
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For the same reason any type of segregation isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:23 PM
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You didn’t answer my question. Why should we let them in our spaces if they don’t let us in theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:23 PM
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Name one way in which modern women are still impacted by the fact women couldn’t vote generations ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:19 PM
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They forced us to include them in a lot of our institutions and spaces decades ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:17 PM
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I was circumcised at birth, so I clearly don’t have the right to bodily autonomy. I was forced to sign up for selective service also. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:11 PM
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The point is Catholics have female-only roles like nun and mother of god, and male-only roles like priest and monk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:08 PM
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Do you think that having gender-segregated groups is justifiable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:52 PM
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But we can also push to integrate the women’s spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:49 PM
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Then why weren’t Girl Scouts opened to boys, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:47 PM
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Women have sororities, which are way worse. I don’t know what the elks are. Freemasonry is evil. There are female only social sports leagues. They created the exclusionary group because they are bigots and don’t want to share with men, never mind that we are half of the population, and they all have fathers who probably did a lot for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:46 PM
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Well, then women should speak up for themselves in mixed spaces instead of going down the path of exclusion and hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:40 PM
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It is just a feeling. If you feel uncomfortable exercising around men, it’s a subjective feeling with no basis in reality. I remember your username from when you tried to argue female circumcision was worse than MGM. You were very dismissive there, and yet now you try to lecture me about men being dismissive of women? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:40 PM
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No, I don’t even really like sex, I only do it because my girlfriend wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:37 PM
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I’m talking about those fundie churches. Westboro, Quiverfull, those kinds of churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:36 PM
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Why do you say none of my OP was an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:32 PM
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Is there a reason that you are commenting about your favorite drink and food here instead of making an actually substantive response to his comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:30 PM
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I’ve been groped by women at bars, and you don’t see me crying about it. You’ve given me an idea for my next poll, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:29 PM
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The right to life is the most fundamental right there is. Also, as a male, if I wasn’t pro-life, I would have no reason to care about abortion at all, since it doesn’t benefit me for it to remain accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:26 PM
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No, it’s just that both of those women terrible campaigns, combined with the fact that the winner is incredibly charismatic. Their lack of a Y-chromosome isn’t why they lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:25 PM
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But there are roles Catholics have for only women like nuns. Also, the Catholic religion has deep respect for the Virgin Mary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:23 PM
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Yes, but you can be nuns, which men can’t. There are lots of Catholic girls schools. I didn’t grow up attending church every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:21 PM
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Women can’t be priests, but that’s it. Women can be nuns, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:58 AM
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I think this only applies to some evangelical Protestant groups. I grew up Catholic and never saw anything like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:51 AM
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Not really. Women not being able to vote 106 years ago doesn’t make it harder for them to vote today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:48 AM
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Yes, I explained them in my OP. Didn’t you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:47 AM
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“Because they should” is an assertion, not an argument. Do you have any actual arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:14 AM
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There are far more women-only spaces, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:12 AM
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I’m sure women are allowed in “gentleman’s clubs”, they are the entertainment. Sororities exist, too, and are way worse. I’m sure there is a dating app for gay women. There are women’s sports clubs also
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:42 AM
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I agree with all of this. I’ve always found men to be more empathetic towards me than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:34 AM
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Women don’t need these exceptions more than men. If anything, they need them less because society treats them better than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:31 AM
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My point is all the exclusion of women was decades before I was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:28 AM
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Yes, I do. We normally give each other space.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:27 AM
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Women aren’t completely excluded there, though. There’s nothing unsafe about letting guys post in a subreddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:26 AM
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That doesn’t give them the right to discriminate. My girlfriend actually did drag me to a lame party a couple months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:21 AM
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Guycry explicitly says “this space is for everyone”. Try again. Why should a woman’s feeling of safety come before a man’s feeling of exclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:16 AM
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Why should they? Name some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:15 AM
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Better for subs to have to deal with bad behavior than to be exclusionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:12 AM
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The misandry I observed from women/feminists growing up is a big part of why I have the views on women and gender that I do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:03 AM
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I think you’re smart enough to infer from the fact that I haven’t denied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:57 PM
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It’s not harassment to watch someone in public. Public urination, however, is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:55 PM
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It’s not harassment because they’re in a public space. Is it harassment to watch drunk college sororities peeing in the alley?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:52 PM
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Watching someone in a public space isn’t harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:49 PM
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The woods are public. I have the right to watch public things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:41 PM
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Because women have so many more interactions with men than with bears. The average bear interaction is far more dangerous. If I saw a woman peeing in the woods, I’d pitch a tent, but I wouldn’t harass her or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:19 PM
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You realise that bears are dangerous wild animals that eat people, right? They’re not actually cute and cuddly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:53 PM
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No, it says 61% for all women. 75% for Democrat women. 68% for young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:45 PM
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There are far more women only gyms than men only gyms. That’s proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:41 PM
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I would say that the large number of women’s spaces that exclude men compared to the minuscule number of men’s spaces that exclude women is proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:30 PM
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You were banned for spreading feminist misinformation. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/ 61% of US women are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:28 PM
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Then provide proof for your claim that most women care about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:41 PM
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Reread your own screenshot. When you asked if you were banned for being a feminist, they said “for spreading misinformation”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:39 PM
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A high school in the Pacific Northwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:28 AM
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How many men falsely accuse a woman of rape? How many men use alimony to extract money from their ex-wife? How many men in the West cut their daughter’s clit off?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:48 AM
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I said what I said. Look at the birth rates before and after feminism. Look at the US circumcision rates before and after feminism. Also, I looked at your screenshot, and you didn’t get banned from the intactivism sub for being a feminist, you got banned for saying that most feminists support intactivism. The mods there explained that only 1/8 of American women are intactivists, whereas more than half of American women are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:48 AM
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Fair enough. I brought up apartheid as an extreme example of exclusion. I genuinely can’t think of any time in my lifetime that women were excluded from a men’s space that wasn’t a toilet/locker room.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:35 AM
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Of course, there’s the question of whether a POV can truly be objectively odd, given that POVs are inherently non-objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:31 AM
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What is moral and what is right is not determined by popular vote. There is a difference in “discriminating” in who you spend your money on and discriminating in who is allowed somewhere. You’re perfectly allowed to only buy your kids ice cream, you’re not allowed to say “only my kids are allowed at the festival” I don’t support age discrimination either. I signed a petition to lower the drinking age a couple of months ago. Unlike kids, women are not a disadvantaged group. They are the privilege…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:28 AM
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Go to feminist spaces and see how they talk about men. Go to MRA spaces and see how they talk about women. Compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:08 AM
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Why do you claim that 99% of rapes against women go unreported?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:54 AM
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I’m sorry that that happened, and were I the mod, I wouldn’t have banned you. However, being banned for being a feminist isn’t the same as being banned for being a woman. A pro-abortion sub may allow male posters but not Tate supporters, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:53 AM
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They’re only successful because of their exclusionary cult networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:14 AM
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No. I just don’t see how a harmless joke could bother anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:14 AM
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I hope that they understand that joining sororities decreases their respectability in the eyes of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:33 PM
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99.99% of people it happens to in the West are male. It’s far worse than an unpleasant experience that lasts less than an hour and causes no physical damage. Do you live in the US? Blagojevich hurt no one and got a long sentence. A woman who IMMOLATED a man got a short sentence. Look at the abysmal birthrates. Sure, go ahead, if there even are any. OK then I haven’t had negative personal experience with fraternities the way I have with sororities Car insurance is more vital in most parts of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:20 PM
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I don’t understand why anyone would feel uncomfortable because of a goofy joke, though. It’s not like I told them “I want to use your vagina as my wallet”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:06 PM
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Colleges favor females in their admission policies. Getting accepted isn’t a big accomplishment for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:05 PM
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None of the sorority girls in my classes seemed very intelligent, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:59 PM
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How on earth was my joke borderline sexual harassment? Boys are still held to a harsher standard than girls? Yes, but I would never report them because I’m not a snitch
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:58 PM
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I doubt it. None of the sorority girls I interacted with during my bartending days displayed any signs of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:46 PM
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That’s what the principal told me the problem was when he gave me detention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:37 PM
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Wait, do you actually think sorority girls are smart, or are you just joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:31 PM
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“It’s actually fine to discriminate” sounds like something Strom Thurmond would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:31 PM
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Would you say the same thing to a civil rights activist?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:30 PM
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Of course sorority girls enjoyed it - 4 years of nonstop trashy partying with friends their parents bought them and a smug sense of superiority. I actually had to do real class work. My parents made me go, I would have been happy to flip burgers for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:27 PM
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“Why don’t women’s pants have big pockets? Because they can store stuff in their vagina”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:24 PM
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Obviously I think mods have too much power, but I still see value in reddit as a platform for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:23 PM
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Correct. I didn’t want to be at college.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:22 PM
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Here are 10 examples of female privilege. Routine male circumcision is worse than anything western women routinely endure - the loss of half of the skin on your genitals, containing 3/4 of the nerves, leaving a permanent scar on your most intimate parts. Nothing western women routinely endure is anywhere comparable. Unwanted pregnancy? Over in 9 months, you can give the baby up for adoption and never worry about it again. Pay gap? Not a factor when you compare men and women with the same qualifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:21 PM
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You’re drawing an arbitrary line. If it’s okay to exclude from clubs and discussions, it’s okay to exclude from power, business, and education. Either both are okay, or neither is. (Interesting how the types of exclusion you’re fine with are the types that don’t exclude women, but the types you’re not fine with are the types that exclude women. Hmmm…)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:18 PM
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I made a hilarious joke about vaginas. Female peers were not amused.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:12 PM
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Keep in mind that from my point of view, it’s your viewpoint that is odd. My viewpoint is odd from your point of view. It is not objectively odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:11 PM
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It is on topic. If thinking being inclusive and non-discriminatory is a good thing is circular, what’s your problem with apartheid?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:10 PM
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Why do you say that I don’t think for myself? My beliefs are quite unconventional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:00 PM
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I have a girlfriend, so you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:54 PM
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Not true. I had multiple female classmates get away with saying penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:26 PM
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Thanks, but it’s a false equivalence to say “it’s okay for certain topics to be out of scope, so it’s okay for certain groups of people to be out of scope”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:10 PM
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I went to college because my parents pressured me into going. I would have rather not gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:08 PM
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“We didn’t haze” If that doesn’t apply, fair, but still, why would anyone overlook their promiscuity and trashiness? Why put a ring on the campus bicycle? “We know we are hot…exclusive event…etc…” just reinforces my point about them being vapid, stuck up, and trashy, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:03 PM
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My evidence is the fact that discrimination is wrong. You have no evidence that most of the world agrees with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:45 PM
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I don’t believe that “safe spaces” are a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:09 AM
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Yes, I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:06 AM
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That was implicit in the final sentence of my OP. Did you not read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:01 AM
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I never said that. Read the last sentence of my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:52 AM
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Because men are human beings worthy of inherent dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:43 AM
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Why should I care about women’s issues if you guys don’t care about men’s issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:39 AM
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Would you say a comparable thing to an FGM victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:33 AM
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Females in the US are protected from genital mutilation. Males aren’t. Males have to sign up for selective service. Females don’t. Females speaking poorly of males is tolerated, but not vice versa. Society tolerates women saying penis, but not men saying vagina. I’m gonna take it a step further and say VULVA. Society promotes body positivity for fat women (who can always become thin through making healthier choices) but not for short men (who cannot become taller unless they pay $100k for a pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:28 AM
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If I had a vagina, society would treat me better than it does with a penis. Female privilege to feminists is like water to a fish. They’re so surrounded by it that they don’t notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:24 AM
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I don’t support “safe spaces” as a concept. You completely disregard the issues men face. Why should I empathize with a group that has no empathy for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:22 AM
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No need to be rude. I smile all the time, especially when watching funny stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:19 AM
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Go ahead, save my comment. You’re just proving my point. Men speaking poorly of women is far less tolerated by society than women speaking poorly of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:02 AM
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Give me some examples of instances you think I’d agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:56 AM
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Another option is to stop saying kids have ADHD just because they don’t want to pay attention in school. School was SO BORING.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:53 AM
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That’s misandrist. I generally like Japan, but I disagree with that. I’ve been groped by women in bars. Wasn’t a big deal. Yes, I prioritize men over women, because, in my experience, women prioritize women over men. Look up sorority hazing and you will be disgusted. There are lots of videos of it online, too. Look at how Michael Jackson, an innocent man, was treated based on a false allegation. Bodily autonomy is less fundamental than the right to life. Most feminists don’t care about male bodi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:52 AM
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Ask them why they think anyone could trust them given the horrendous hazing they do. Ask them how they managed to find a husband, given their widely known promiscuity and trashiness. Ask them how it feels to be a vapid, appearance-obsessed party girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:48 AM
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In what way did I misuse the term victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:46 AM
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I disagree. Could we at least be consistent and say that women don’t have a real right to freely participate in any and all conversations, including political ones, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:45 AM
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So then why was apartheid wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:44 AM
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Why would I sympathize with women when very few women sympathize with men? Also, the plural of anecdote is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:44 AM
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It’s one thing to deem certain topics out of scope. It’s another to deem certain groups of people out of scope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:43 AM
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I changed my mind about public restrooms because someone convinced me. So far no one has convinced me that women-only spaces are good. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:42 AM
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The bigoted scope should be revised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:41 AM
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In what way is it fascinating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:41 AM
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When I was in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:39 AM
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It’s about the principle of things. Discrimination is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:36 AM
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If they will accept self-diagnosed people, why not men as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:10 AM
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I don’t agree. Women’s spaces should be forced to accept men, both online and off. I wish women understood how it felt to live in a world where the opposite sex’s voice was constantly centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:10 AM
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But she would still have a right to participate and offer insights about her own sexual dysfunction has impacted her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:09 AM
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Excluding me from a conversation based on my immutable characteristics is discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:07 AM
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Interesting, I didn’t know that. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:04 AM
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To be inclusive and non-discriminatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:01 AM
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I’m talking about social norms in the US. Are you from the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:00 AM
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There are far more women-only spaces and far less pressure on women-only spaces to accept men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:54 PM
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No, I just don’t want to be excluded based on immutable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:48 PM
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Correct. I said so in my OP. Your username is prejudiced against men who are short, which is an immutable characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:44 PM
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What specifically do you think needs to be unpacked here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:43 PM
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Yes, and a lot of people self-diagnose based on TikTok reels. A self-diagnosis isn’t a valid diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:43 PM
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Have you heard the Charlie Chaplin/Michael Jackson song “Smile”? It’s actually good advice for the depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:32 PM
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Why are you calling me a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:29 PM
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How is it not misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:45 PM
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Ask them how it feels to know that normal people will never view them as respectable or intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:18 PM
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Sororities aren’t the main point of my post. I just included them because I don’t like them, but they are not the focus of my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:45 PM
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Those examples are far less prevalent than the examples I gave, so my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:43 PM
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It’s the principle of anti-discrimination. That’s why it bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:42 PM
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And feminists constantly try to get into those. What even is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:38 PM
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Why do you say that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:33 PM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:29 PM
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I’m not wrong. Men report it less, but the actual amount is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:26 PM
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Because men aren’t oversensitive and prejudiced against the opposite sex the way many but not all women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:26 PM
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Should men-only gyms, etc… be allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:24 PM
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Because it discriminates against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:23 PM
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There never was a need for it. Thank you for being against it. I am against rape. Sororities are way worse than frats. You’re lucky you don’t live in a place with them. Men aren’t praised for sex, they are disdained for it. Ever heard the phrase “couldn’t pull out of a driveway”? Men can be more assertive, but women can be more emotional. Women also harass men at work. The right to life is the most fundamental right there is. Men don’t have hormonal fluctuations like women. If you choose to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:22 PM
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Then I’m sure you’ll have no trouble whatsoever giving me some examples of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:07 PM
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This is misandrist stereotyping, holding the actions of a small minority men against us all. How about women get over their misandry? That means: * No more women-only spaces No more circumcision No more false rape allegations No more sororities No more double standards (women can say penis but men get called out for saying saints, women can flirt more aggressively than men and get away with it, etc…) Women get drafted No more alimony Etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:06 PM
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How would you feel if men had exclusive spaces and women didn’t? Women who feel unsafe around men are engaging in stereotyping and being misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:59 PM
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I am wrong to say men also get groped and catcalled?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:48 PM
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Cool motive, still exclusion and discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:46 PM
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Why “especially for women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:45 PM
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The point is that your unverified anecdotes don’t change the fact that men are also groped and catcalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:42 PM
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Women are not a marginalized group. How is it fair for you to have exclusive spaces, but not us? The world was a better place before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:41 PM
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I’ve had random women grope my ass and chest in bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:23 PM
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I seem to recall feminists barging into spaces not meant for them a century ago. Turnabout is fair play…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:15 PM
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Why should men care? Especially after your multi-paragraph misandrist rant. How would you feel if a man said that about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:09 PM
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Because men are far less prejudiced against women, on average, as women are against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:00 PM
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They should get over their misandry and learn to feel safe around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:59 PM
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You changed my mind about this. I agree that single-gender locker rooms and bathrooms shouldn’t exist, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:58 PM
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Sororities exist, Freemasonry is evil, there are also private girl only schools (and women’s colleges) and sports leagues and Bible studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:58 PM
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This is victim blaming. The vast majority of men are peaceful and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:57 PM
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What’s entitled is wanting to exclude others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:42 PM
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I didn’t deny women having it in my post. I just said I was surprised to hear it because I’d never met a woman with it IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:41 PM
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I disagree. They shouldn’t have the right to discriminate. A woman could contribute to an erectile dysfunction group. Maybe she has had a partner with ED, or had similar sexual dysfunction such as an inability to find the clit or too dry of a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:28 PM
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They should let everyone in regardless of gender or mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:24 PM
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Why do you say they should exist? Name some male only spaces in the modern US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:21 PM
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No, this post isn’t because of sororities. I just never pass up the opportunity to express my dislike of sororities. This post had an opening for an anti-sorority comment, so I included it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:19 PM
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I’m glad you have found a way to compensate, but how does that relate to my comment about how claiming to have something you’ve never been diagnosed with is LARPing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:17 PM
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I don’t agree. They’re the ones that chose to drink. If they don’t want to discuss it around others, they shouldn’t go to those exclusionary groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:08 AM
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Thank you. AA/NA shouldn’t be allowed to exclude, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:03 AM
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They didn’t have to. They chose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:00 AM
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And we actually appreciate female allies, as far and few between as they are. Are you one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:56 AM
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Check the rules. They’re allowed to post there, as long as they don’t preface their comments with “as a woman”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:53 AM
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Can’t you make it an ingrained habit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:49 AM
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It’s also a space for women to do what they want without being harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:47 AM
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But none of that justifies gender discrimination. If you don’t want to talk at the gym, just put your earbuds in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:47 AM
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A coed gym isn’t a men’s space the way a woman-only gym is a woman’s space.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:46 AM
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The issue is society only tolerating one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:44 AM
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If you can mask your symptoms in social situations, you can do it all the time. You can’t pretend your leg isn’t broken in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:41 AM
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But right now we have female-only stuff with no male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:40 AM
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So you wouldn’t be bothered if the US was full of male-only gyms, male-only professional networking groups, and male-only subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:37 AM
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I apologize if it came across that way. It wasn’t my intent. Meanwhile, women can post there without each post needing mod confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:36 AM
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But they can still share valuable perspectives. Look at the CircumcisionGrief sub - a support group for male circumcision victims, yet intact men and women can post there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:35 AM
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But if you mask the symptoms, can’t you just keep masking them until it becomes an ingrained habit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:34 AM
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But not all men are me, so why exclude all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:31 AM
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I never said anyone was faking their problems. I said that lots of people online who say they have a mental illness but were never formally diagnosed are wrong. They don’t have that mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:30 AM
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To assume that being male means they have no knowledge or interest in learning is a bigoted assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:24 AM
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Do men not have female friends, partners, and relatives with ADHD?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:21 AM
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I never denied women could have ADHD. I just said I have never met one or heard of one before I joined Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:20 AM
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Or maybe because women are better at “masking” aka overcoming it naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:17 AM
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What research did I fail to do in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:15 AM
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It’s the principle of not wanting to be discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:11 AM
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I want to have the option to post there and have my posts be judged on their merits instead of my chromosomal configuration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:11 AM
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No. It’s that I’ve never known a woman who had ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:09 AM
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Because I am opposed to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:08 AM
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Thank you, you too. I hope you have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:08 AM
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I believe in taking the high road. I’m not going to do something I think is morally wrong just to one-up someone. I believe in sticking to my principles and being ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:06 AM
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TikTok especially but the entire internet is full of people who think they have ADHD or other mental diseases but don’t actually have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:06 AM
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No, men are just much less likely to report it than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:03 AM
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I don’t like the way it feels to be excluded. It’s the principle of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:03 AM
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I know other males who got diagnosed. It was quick and easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:02 AM
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Penis subreddits don’t ban female posters, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:02 AM
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Prosecution statistics don’t work because men underreport. Menslives is the only one that bans women. Women can be just as effective in combat as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:00 AM
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I don’t have ADHD, though, so it would be weird for me to make that subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:57 AM
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In the US, it’s very easy to get an ADHD diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:57 AM
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I don’t like being excluded. That’s why it bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:56 AM
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They discriminate because they don’t allow us in because of our gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:56 AM
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Because it’s an example of a gender discriminatory sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:53 AM
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My belief that gender discriminatory spaces are wrong has nothing to do with my dislike of sororities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:53 AM
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I haven’t researched ADHD in females. That doesn’t change the fact that I’ve never met one or heard about it until I found the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:50 AM
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If you have throat issues, how about getting a formal diagnosis before claiming you have a specific condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:49 AM
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I am on a good path. I have a good job and help out with charitable organizations from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:49 AM
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Discrimination shouldn’t be tolerated in business plans. Religious fundamentalist women, especially from abrahamic religions, often don’t want to excercise around men because of archaic religious beliefs about extreme modesty. Ideally, no one would be afraid. There are exponentially more women’s shelters than men’s shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:47 AM
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But does it mean that my entire gender shouldn’t be allowed to post there because of my lack of experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:45 AM
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It would be just like if someone who had a sore throat started saying “I have throat cancer” despite having no diagnosis of throat cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:45 AM
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Look up how people with actual diagnoses feel about the TikTok LARPers. I’ve felt unhappy at times, that didn’t mean I had depression. I’ve never had depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:44 AM
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Men get groped and catcalled, too. Women are actually safer outside than men. Most crime victims are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:43 AM
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I explained why I don’t mind frats but dislike sororities. I didn’t advocate for banning sororities or anything, I just explained why I feel the way I do about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:42 AM
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A big issue is society tolerates women-only far more than men-only. I actually wonder if men and women would want to be around each other at all if not for reproduction. Like if humans reproduced asexually, but still had men and women, would they want to interact at all? Interesting thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:41 AM
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If you claim to have a mental illness that you’ve never actually been diagnosed with, you’re LARPing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:40 AM
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It’s because men underreport far more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:38 AM
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Wrong. When you adjust for underreporting, the gap is statistically insignificant. Name 3 male only places and 3 male only subreddits I support women in combat roles, in fact, were I in charge, I would draft only women for the next war to try and make up for historical wrongs. Ideally, there won’t ever be another war, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:37 AM
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I never said female ADHD wasn’t real. It just surprised me to hear of women having it because I’d never met a female ADHD in real life or heard about women having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:35 AM
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Negative personal experiences with sorority members.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:33 AM
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They would be cancelled 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:01 AM
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The most prevalent types in Southeast Asia are hoodectomy and a ritual nick, which is also done in a hospital at birth. Men report less. Minorities have a lot of privilege. Lots of double standards favor them. You can fake a German accent and people will laugh, fake an Indian accent and people will be upset. Many more similar double standards. I used to weigh almost 300 lbs and have lost half of my peak weight. Calories in must be lower than calories out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:35 AM
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Most FGM is not infibulation and clitorectomy Women are more likely to report than men, which sways the statistics. I’m talking about the US, not Africa and the Middle East. Men have no workplace privilege. Fearing walking alone is irrational. Women are at less risk than men. Most politicians being does nothing for the 99.99% of men who aren’t politicians. Most circumcision happens because of the mother. Men do not have privilege over women. Whites do not have privilege over minorities. Attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:19 PM
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Yes, it did belong to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:48 AM
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6 times that many men have had genital mutilation happen to them. Most FGM is of equal or lesser severity to male circumcision. Infibulation is quite rare. Actually men are more likely than women to be the victims of violent crimes. I don’t approve of abortion. How do I have more privilege than my female peers when my genitalia was sliced up and theirs wasn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:48 AM
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No, a lot of the land in the eastern US, there is no longer any tribe indigenous to it. Many reservations are in their original area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:45 AM
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They are protected from genital mutilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 12:39 AM
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Because it is their native land.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:43 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:33 PM
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They obviously can live off the reservation, but they don’t want outsiders living on their reservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:32 PM
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Women already have more bodily autonomy than men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:18 PM
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Why do you say I’m immature?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:16 PM
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What privilege did men have that made up for the draft? The laws are being used against the AfD unfairly. The AfD is not a Nazi group. Without those laws, the AfD would be less vulnerable to persecution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:41 PM
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The glans is far less sensitive than the foreskin. Look at the website Circumstitions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:10 PM
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Would you say that to a woman whose clit was amputated and can’t enjoy sex because of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:32 PM
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They are still a human life worthy of protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:07 PM
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Most families in the US are planned and most men worldwide are intact. I hate sex but still do it to keep my girlfriend happy. Similarly, I’d do it to become a father even though I don’t enjoy it, just like I don’t enjoy cooking bacon but I still do so because I enjoy eating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:06 PM
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Is it racist that native Americans don’t want to become a minority on their own reservations?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:57 PM
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Jason Isaacs got in trouble for saying VULVA
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:49 PM
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Why would I go to doctors about it when they’re the one who caused the problem. I’m skeptical of your claim about your husband, but if it’s true, perhaps he had a less severe cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:39 PM
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Because there was a time period of about 50 years when women could vote without being drafted. There was no time when men had the vote but not the draft. 👍 I’m not asking for links to porn, I’m asking for links to news stories. Those laws are being used against the AfD, which is Germany’s only hope to have a German future. Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:26 PM
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Mass migration is affecting every Irish family. Look at the increase in rape and other crimes. They are a net drain on the economy. They are the biggest contributor to the housing crisis. They will make us a minority in our own homeland mid-century.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:22 PM
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Like I said, he could have stretched the foreskin instead of cutting it off. Why didn’t his parents give him that option? I strongly suspect he’s just trying to make you feel good and that he doesn’t actually enjoy sex very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:19 PM
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Like I said, self-deception is a powerful thing. Now you’re bragging about sleeping around? Have you ever been with an intact man? Also, having a high sex drive doesn’t mean sex is pleasurable. They are different things. Sex would be very pleasurable for an intact castrato, but he would have no sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:18 PM
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Is a severely mentally disabled person still a person in your eyes? Can’t talk, can’t care for themselves, shows no signs of higher cognitive function or the ability to think abstractly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:15 PM
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Why must everything be rooted in a personal anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:14 PM
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Why do you insist that I’m dishonest about the cause? I’m still capable of reproducing, I just feel very little pleasure. Your last sentence is inaccurate on several accounts. The US’s greatest reproductive period was the early 1800s, not the baby boom. The baby boom began in 1946, and the infant circumcision rate only reached 50% in 1933.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:09 PM
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You are the one making the assumption that I don’t care about any human feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:52 PM
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I have the option to choose celibacy once me and my girlfriend break up. (Our relationship isn’t doing so well) I have the option to keep the resentment and anger in my heart. I am incapable of truly enjoying sex. What have you ever done to advocate against circumcision?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:41 AM
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A person’s a person, no matter how small
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:38 AM
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It is a website with decades of history and dozens if not hundreds of sources
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:38 AM
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You do have a homologous organ to the foreskin: your clit hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:27 AM
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And the society that permitted it. I can be angry at women for being legally protected from it when I was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:22 AM
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Only drafting women is a matter of righting historical wrongs I encourage other men to put their gender first Where is your proof? Yes, Germany has had anti-free-speech laws ever since WWII, I don’t like this I should have probably said “the US” instead of “the West”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:16 AM
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It is. Feminists pushed for a gender-discriminatory ban on genital cutting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:57 AM
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No, but many of my fellow men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:54 AM
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Researchers in the modern era have compared the cancer rate of the castrati to the cancer rate of uncastrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:54 AM
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Why would I care about feminists when they don’t care about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:52 AM
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Check out the Circumstitions website for proof
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:52 AM
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I’m not religious, so your argument fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:51 AM
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I am honest. I have never felt anything more than mild to moderate pleasure for 5-10 seconds when I ejaculate. This is how it feels to be circumcised, forever. You can’t enjoy sex. You will never enjoy sex. All you will ever feel is a hideous simulacrum of sexual pleasure. You are coming at this from a position of privilege as a woman. What have you ever done to advocate against MGM? What is my chance of salvation? Foregen? I will never be able to enjoy sex. Being circumcised is crueler than bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:49 AM
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I’m 26 and secular. Are you a “regret mother” who is trying to downplay the enormity of what you inflicted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:47 AM
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I’m not Ace. I’m deeply aroused by boobs and naked women in general. I just lack the anatomy for sexual pleasure because it was stolen from me in infancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:47 AM
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Better the troubles than replacement migration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:45 AM
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I will never be able to enjoy sex. No wonder I have the views I do about women and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:43 AM
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Fair enough Women were never treated worse than men. There was a period when they had both fewer rights (voting) and responsibilities (draft), which evened out How many men in society actually advocate for their gender vs doing whatever they think women want in an attempt to “get laid”? Because no female politician would have a statue like that be made of her True, but they are still incredibly creepy IIRC, you live in Germany, which has much better public transport than the US
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:42 AM
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Most women’s bodies aren’t damaged after giving birth, though. Rape is a bad thing, but usually doesn’t have severe consequences for the victim. I’ve never heard of feminists doing anything to help male victims. In fact, I seem to recall them promoting women-only shelters
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:37 PM
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There is a certain point in surveys and polling where adding more participants no longer increases the accuracy. What I don’t get about you is that you claim you’re against MGM but constantly downplay its harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:36 PM
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Ireland is part of the West. I mean about 25 years ago. Abortion was still banned, and it was a more conservative (i.e. less feministic) society. Mass migration didn’t become super bad in Ireland until this century.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:35 PM
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If PETA got a law passed protecting animals but not humans from, say, kidnapping, I would also take issue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:27 PM
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Ireland until mass migration began around the turn of the century.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:27 PM
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Look at the personal experiences collected at the Circumstitions website. Men circumcised as adults say they experiences a drastic loss in pleasure. You completely ignored the bodily autonomy angle. It’s better to grow up in a foster home than to have your life stolen from you. Women’s rights “progress” hasn’t benefited men one bit, and yet feminists expect us to support it at our own expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:26 PM
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Yes, they change the body, but they usually don’t scar it or lead to the loss of body parts. Most pregnancies don’t lead to severe complications. All circumcisions scar the penis and reduce sensitivity. Why won’t you personally admit that circumcision is unethical? You leftists are all “my body my choice” until it’s a man’s body. I would happily go through childbirth pain every day for the rest of my life (and I’m 26, so that’s an estimated 60+ years) if it would give me my foreskin back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:24 PM
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So in your case, a yearly checkup is financially prudent. In my case, it’s just a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:19 PM
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50 men on each side is a sufficient sample size, don’t you think? You’re speaking from a point of privilege here as a woman. Approximately 70% of males born in the US nowadays suffer MGM. Do anywhere near 70% of females in the US suffer unwanted pregnancy? The procedures aren’t that different. Both amputate part of the genitalia, and both began as a way to control sexuality. MGM getting pseudo-medical justifications attached doesn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:15 PM
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Life begins at conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:04 PM
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It is the norm, but many men prefer to live in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:04 PM
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It was based on birth. Pregnancy sometimes has permanent consequences for the body. Circumcision always does. Those are serious long-term consequences, but they are not common for women who give birth. The actual rate of circumcision complications is higher. Read what Jason Fairfield wrote about it on X. Of course, I consider having half of your penis missing to be a complication, but YMMV. I am opposed to rape. Very few women have any interest in being allies to men, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:16 PM
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Most people would prefer to live among their own people in their own land. That doesn’t mean their own land is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:49 PM
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I will do research tomorrow. It’s 3:20 AM here and I want to go to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:19 AM
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How are the changes the same as puberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:15 AM
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It’s less likely than consensual sex to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:11 AM
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But what does that have to do with penile atrophy? How is it a second puberty? I acknowledge it can change your body, but that doesn’t make it a second puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:11 AM
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Self-deception is powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:04 AM
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I lack the ability to enjoy sex because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:25 AM
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Would you talk like this to an FGM victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:52 AM
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He could have fixed it by stretching the foreskin instead of removing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:25 AM
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This post was me advocating for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:21 AM
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How do sex workers do it, then? I can’t imagine they are attracted to most or even any of their clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:20 AM
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I had to register for selective service, unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:19 AM
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I am a productive member of society. I have a good job. I pay taxes. I donate to charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:43 AM
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Most people don’t want to live in a foreign land.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:39 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:39 AM
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Most pregnancies and childbirths do not do this. The right to life is the most fundamental right there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:38 AM
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Why do you think he thoroughly enjoys sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:38 AM
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Even an unaroused vagina has some small amount of lubrication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:37 AM
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Because we should all be equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:37 AM
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No, my argument against circumcision isn’t based on the mortality rate, it’s based on the lifetime of diminished sexuality, high risk of non/fatal complications, and bodily autonomy. Less than 100% of women who have given birth have damaged genitals. All circumcised men do. Do you condemn circumcision, yes or no? I’m much more diplomatic in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:36 AM
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Because of improved sanitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:32 AM
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So why do you deserve the same rights as men if you aren’t willing to take on the same responsibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:32 AM
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The circumcision is obvious. You can’t hide it. Are you in the USA? It may be a differing cultural norm. It’s still a discrepancy and unfair. Then why do feminists constantly try to recruit male “allies”? Other users here have said that, and I saw an article about it back in 2014. Look it up Sorority girls are way more annoying and creepy. That’s a chance I’ll take. A car is a necessity in most parts of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:29 AM
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Are you willing to admit circumcision is unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:24 AM
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Then why did you call me a loser for caring about men being treated worse than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:23 AM
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Then why did historical eunuchs have a lower cancer rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:22 AM
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Most people in other regions of the world, except East Asia, are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:22 AM
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Correct. I do it for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:21 AM
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Do you have any proof for your assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:21 AM
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I have never done that. I’m just explaining that he was a nonviolent offender. Nonviolent crimes can still hurt people (Madoff for example), but they are less severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:20 AM
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There’s the Sorrells study about fine touch sensation in the penis from about 2 decades ago. Perhaps the guys you met had a rare foreskin problem and that’s why they didn’t miss it. I know from personal experience that circumcised sex is no good. Loss of parts should be clear. Did they have a part before that they no longer have after? At least a bone scar is internal. At least most pregnant women don’t have broken bones. Every single MGM victim has a broken penis. Still not an excuse to pass ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:19 AM
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Either don’t mention it at all or just call it “down below”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:00 AM
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I do care about male victims. Just because I don’t believe debunked allegations (like the ones against MJ), doesn’t mean I don’t care about actual victims. English is my first language.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:58 AM
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So then why ban it at all if it’s virtually never done? Thank you for protecting your boys. What do you do in your personal life to advocate against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:57 AM
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Because they passed a law that explicitly discriminates based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:56 AM
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In many countries, such as Malaysia and Indonesia, FGM is done shortly after birth in the hospital, just like MGM.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:55 AM
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That’s not what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:55 AM
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They’re cult like, with secretive rituals and do all sorts of degenerate stuff. Weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:48 AM
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No, I’m sharing my views and looking to debate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:47 AM
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More or less than your yearly premium costs you, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:47 AM
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That’s a chance I’ll take. Can you really blame a victim of routine “medical” circumcision for wanting to keep his distance from medical “care”? I’ve considered it, but the small risk that I could become seriously ill or injured is less important to me than saving money by not being insured, avoiding the inconvenience of checkups, and staying as far away from the health “care” industry as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:46 AM
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No, you’re not. A search through your comments reveals you’re okay with circumcising a boy for kidney issues. Funny how in Europe, they don’t circumcise boys for kidney issues, and they’re just fine. I’d rather be on antibiotics my entire life than be circumcised my entire life. If you’re okay with being friends with circumcisers, you’re not as “anti-circumcision as they come” 100% of circumcisions have negative complications. Not all pregnancies do, therefore circumcision is worse than pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:42 AM
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Then why don’t women receive the same disapproval when they say penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:38 AM
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A small number do experience more than a temporary inconvenience, but it is merely a temporary inconvenience for most. Feminists have constantly downplayed the harm of MGM, and constantly exaggerated the danger of pregnancy. My post helps to correct that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:34 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:32 AM
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I have a chair with a back, a seat, and four legs. If I cut off the back of the chair, the legs are still the same size, but the chair overall is smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:25 AM
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7 is too young to diagnose phimosis. It would be like giving a 7-year-old testosterone because he hadn’t hit puberty. Your husband’s could have probably also been resolved with steroid cream. I also suspect he may have been improperly subjected to premature retraction. I would rather have “lots of issues” than have a halfdick. I know what I would prefer. Your husband is probably some combination of placebo effect, self-delusion, and trying not to hurt your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:24 AM
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Very few rapes cause pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:36 AM
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Go to the men’s rights subreddit and search for “feminist” “circumcision” and you will see ample examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:35 AM
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So if it costs more to insure you, you should pay a higher premium.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:33 AM
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How would I have an atrophied penis? Why do you say pregnancy leads to a second puberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:33 AM
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Thank you for your thoughtful response. Why do you think rape is a bad comparison? It’s better than abortion, in part because I’m pro-life, but in part because abortion takes lives but leaving penises intact doesn’t. There are some cases in which I think bodily autonomy can be superseded by other concerns. Abortion is one. Mask/vaccine mandates in 2020/21 are another. Laws against driving drunk are another. None of those lead to loss of a body part, though. I 100% agree about pregnancy vs being …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:32 AM
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What’s your source for your claim that women hate religion? Women are less likely than men to oppose circumcision. In what way does pregnancy cause a second puberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:23 AM
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I am not talking about insults like pussy and prick, I’m talking about medical terms like labia, vulva, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:20 AM
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Circumcision scars are far more prominent. You can’t look at a circumcised penis without seeing a scar. Not all women get permanent stretch marks and saggy skin I’m not talking about dick and pussy as insults. I’m talking about anatomical terms. I advocate for longer female sentences, not shorter male sentences. Exactly. Feminists only protest against things that harm women. Their movement is about females, not gender equality. Blurred Lines was controversial because some feminists thought the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:14 AM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:16 PM
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It’s still a privilege even if you never think you’ll benefit from it. I was forced to sign up for selective service. None of my female peers were. There’s also the righting a historical wrong argument where only men were drafted in the past, so for the next war, let’s only draft women. There’s less backlash because society cares about men’s feelings less and men are less oversensitive than women, on average. The fake nude thing proves my point. When men do it to women, they are villainized for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:15 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17378847/ That’s my source. Your clitoral hood is homologous to the male foreskin. Would your sex life be better or worse without your clit hood? There’s the issue of bodily autonomy. Circumcising someone at birth deprives them of their right to choose for their own body. The head of the penis has very few nerve endings. Circumcised heads have even less sensitivity because they dry out and keratinize. My head is the least sensitive part of my penis. The only sensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:03 PM
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Which of my comments do you think was belittling women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:31 PM
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Abortion ends an innocent life. The right to life is the most foundational right. Men are more likely than women to be the victims of violent crimes. Women are safer. Women do have job equality. The “pay gap” reflects different choices of major, career, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:30 PM
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What about that sentence was ambiguous?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:25 PM
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Usually, it doesn’t. I’ve been groped, and it didn’t scar me for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:25 PM
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It doesn’t sound like you respect him. Why am I a loser for caring about my gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:24 PM
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Only 1 in every 4500 American woman dies in pregnancy. There’s a huge difference between having damaged genitals because of an intentional amputation vs because of a difficult birth. Because feminists constantly downplay the harm of male circumcision, and even pushed for a bill banning only female circumcision in the 90s. I don’t trust feminists to be allies. Most of them are hostile to intactivism, and of the few that aren’t, most of those are just indifferent. I’ve gotten a far better reaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:24 PM
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The anus is not self-lubricating. The vagina is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:06 PM
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They aren’t, but more because of them being poor than because of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:01 PM
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Not in the early 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:01 PM
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Turner was a nonviolent first time offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:00 PM
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It’s not a just a piece of skin. It’s the primary erogenous tissue. Your husband was probably given a phony phimosis diagnosis. The foreskin is supposed to be fused to the glans until puberty. Let me guess, you and your husband inflicted it on your own sons so they would match him, and that’s why me criticising the practice upsets you. I would 100% rather have had a temporary negative experience than live my entire life with damaged genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:59 PM
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If you cut part of something off, it becomes smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:56 PM
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I have never met a good one. You may have different experiences. They are so creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:55 PM
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No more than any other unpleasant but temporary experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:55 PM
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I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:54 PM
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Circumstitions is a website with a lot of good foreskin information. 15square as well. It’s an American social norm. Because if you abolish the draft, it’s only ever men who had to bear that burden. Replacement fertility is 2.1. The west is way below that. Men who make those songs get backlash. Sabrina got very little backlash for her song. She got much more for being naked in a photo shoot. Laws about women’s bodies? Like the law protecting them from FGM? The health “care” industry only cares a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:54 PM
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I’m 100% serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:47 PM
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And you don’t care about male victims. Why should I care about those who couldn’t care less about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:46 PM
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No one is forcing you to keep replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:45 PM
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I never learned anything of value at a yearly checkup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:44 PM
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They should practice what they preach and stand up for true gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:44 PM
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Self-deception and the placebo effect can be a powerful thing. He may also be faking it to make you feel good. Keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:43 PM
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I will never get yearly checkups. Not in a thousand years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:41 PM
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I’m sorry that that happened to you. Look up Jonathon Conte, though. Circumcision victims can wind up with PTSD as well. It’s a social norm in the US. Thanks. The maternal mortality rate in the US isn’t high. It’s about 1 in 4,500. There’s less societal pushback when men are shamed. Are fraternity men collectively responsible for what a few bad apples did? It’s easy to Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:41 PM
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I’m not a virgin. I have a girlfriend. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:37 PM
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The 3/4 of nerves thing is supported by how men who were circumcised as adults have described their pleasure before and after. Childbirth doesn’t normally lead to the loss of parts of the genitalia or permanent scarring. You get the calcium back after birth. I am sure about it. It’s a societal norm in the US. Why do feminists only care about saving women from oppression and not men? The state can set up residential facilities for them. I haven’t heard Blurred Lines on the radio for years. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:36 PM
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Well, half of it was amputated, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:15 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:14 PM
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Social norms where I live (LA) frown upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:13 PM
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What about my post was delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:12 PM
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Social norms are not established or enforced by any specific individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:12 PM
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I would 100% prefer that to being circumcised, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:11 PM
0

Because female circumcision is so rare in the US, they could have easily waiting until there was support to ban both before banning either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:08 PM
1

Either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:07 PM
1

The right to life is the most fundamental right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:07 PM
1

The principled thing to do would be to ban neither or ban both, not to pass a discriminatory law.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:05 PM
1

It is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:05 PM
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Thank you for protecting your sons, but a large number of circumcision victims are unhappy about it. Circumcision causes just as much emotional damage as rape, and far more physical damage. Both are bad. Both should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:04 PM
1

Do they pay you money for going, or do they merely cover the cost of the appointment?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:03 PM
1

What about anatomy did I misunderstand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:58 PM
1

Yes. I’m 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:58 PM
1

It’s a well-known fact that stress is a contributor to heart disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:58 PM
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Yes, which is a big part of why I wish my family had never left Ireland. Even in Europe, there are no anti-circumcision laws because some religious activists crybully any country that tried. Look at Iceland in 2018. I am against rape, but the vast majority of rapes do not destroy the genitals. It’s a societal norm at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:56 PM
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On rare occasions. Normally you go, they check you out, say you’re fine, and you just wasted an hour or two of your life on something useless. You can also get routine bloodwork by being a blood donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:53 PM
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A small minority of pregnancies have lasting effects like this. Your aunt is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:48 PM
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Why are you unwilling to admit that amputating healthy body parts is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:47 PM
0

So 0.5-1% of pregnancies permanently damage the body, vs 100% of circumcisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:44 PM
1

Then why didn’t feminists push to be drafted alongside getting the vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:43 PM
1

I was born in Boston, raised in the PNW, and now live in LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:42 PM
1

I’m hoping Biden’s recent diagnosis might raise awareness of men’s cancers, but I’m not optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:42 PM
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Unwanted pregnancy does not scar your body for life. Amputating health body parts from another person is unethical, or does “my body, my choice” only apply to females? Circumcision removes ~3/4 of sexual sensitivity. The most sexual “pleasure” a circumcised man will ever feel is 5-10 seconds of a moderately pleasurable sensation accompanying ejaculation. We don’t have sexual function, we have a hideous simulacrum of sexual function. You may know men who live in denial, but I have the courage to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:40 PM
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Approximately 1 in every 4500 women in the USA loses her life to pregnancy/childbirth. It’s not common. How can you say a temporary inconvenience is worse than a permanent body part loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:41 PM
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I am not the one who established societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:37 PM
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Because he was a nonviolent first time offender who harmed no one, yet he got a longer sentence than an immolator who scarred her victim for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:37 PM
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FGM was already virtually nonexistent among Americans when the law was passed. It was a virtue-signaling, grandstanding law that only protected a group that was already safe 99.99% of the time, intentionally excluding a group that was only safe ~25% of the time from protection. I don’t want anyone to be subjected to genital cutting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:35 PM
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I know a lot about it, and your comment was only tangentially related to my comment that you posted it as a reply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:21 AM
1

The more people who are vaccinated, the less COVID can spread and mutate into new variants
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:20 AM
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My favorite Ye songs are Robocop, Coldest Winter, Virgil Let Me Down, WW3, and HH (I don’t agree with the lyrics, but I think it’s hiirlus in an absurd way)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:19 AM
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Heart disease is also caused by stress, i.e. dealing with feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:18 AM
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Imagine mutilating your genitals to satisfy a woman’s amputation fetish unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:17 AM
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She received a very light sentence. Compare her to nonviolent male offenders like Rod Blagojevich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:16 AM
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You are an outlier. Regardless, every man should be able to choose for himself if he wants it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:14 AM
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Why do you say she doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:13 AM
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What body part does pregnancy routinely lead to the permanent loss of?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:13 AM
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It’s your own fault for staying with him. Would you be bothered by an equivalent song by a man against women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:13 AM
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It’s half the skin and 3/4 of the nerves. Neither you nor I will ever be able to truly enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:12 AM
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You could equally say it’s her fault for choosing to spread her legs for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:12 AM
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It’s a proven fact. Compare lifespans of eunuchs to those of testicularly intact men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:11 AM
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I am vaccinated. I only go to the doctor when I don’t feel well. I get vaccines at the pharmacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:11 AM
1

What posturing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:10 AM
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Societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:10 AM
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How does a scarred semipenis with 3/4 of the nerves missing look and feel better than a natural penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:10 AM
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Then they should have not pushed for any ban at all, at least it would be equal, then. Jill Filipovic, EJ Dickson, Waris Darie, Hillary Clinton, Liz Warren Feminists are less likely to be on my side. I’ve never met a feminist who agreed with me, and AskFeminists forbids discussion of this topic because it triggers female fragility
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:09 AM
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Have you ever dealt with a Manchild?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:07 AM
-1

Women live longer than men because testosterone increases cancer risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:07 AM
-1

It’s still a choice to get prenatal care, which women for 95%+ of history have done without.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:06 AM
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I am circumcised. I would 100% rather have been raped (30 minutes at most of unpleasantness) than have to live my entire life with a mutilated semipenis. Do you have a shred of empathy for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:06 AM
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I believe you should only go to the doctor when you’re sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:04 AM
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It’s 4 AM here, and I’m about to go to bed, but, for #1, feminists pushed for a genital cutting ban that only protected women in the 1990s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:03 AM
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Why did you choose to get it done as a teenager? I’d rather have no penis at all than the hideous simulacrum of a penis that a circumcision victim had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:02 AM
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There’s backlash from red pill men like me who are denounced as misogynistic for it. Find me one mainstream critic denouncing Sabrina. Other red pill guys online don’t count. Gold Digger is different, because Ye says the so-called “N-word” in it, which he can get away with because he is Black. (WW2 Germany didn’t like Black people either, so IMHO he should also get away with glorifying it, even though I disagree with what he’s saying) Also, gold-diggers are a common thing for men to have to deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:02 AM
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You are making a baseless implicit assertion that I know nothing about pregnancy and childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:57 AM
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Women are more likely than men to go for unnecessary yearly checkups. I was conversing with a British woman on this sub a couple of weeks ago. In Britain, they don’t have yearly checkups, yet they do better on all health metrics than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:56 AM
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Do you have an actual rebuttal or just an ad hominem insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:54 AM
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Ignorance doesn’t excuse genital mutilation. Rape is deplorable, but unlike circumcision, it doesn’t scar you for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:53 AM
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That isn’t a source. You made an assertion that you are unwilling/unable to back up. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:52 AM
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Sabrina’s backlash is mostly from feminists who say she is “objecifying” herself. Ye’s views have caused a lot less harm to Ireland than the allied UK or modern liberal migration/globalist ideology has. I don’t agree with him, but I don’t condemn him, either. He has a right to say it, and I’d rather hear his nitrous-induced rants than yet another heavily workshopped PR-driven celeb’s scripted generic garbage. Name one man who released a similar song about women and got no backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:52 AM
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Because she epitomizes female privilege. Why do you call my arguments nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:49 AM
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I would 100% rather be groped or catcalled than have to live my entire life with half of a penis. Source? Google sentencing disparities by gender Is forced birth really any worse than the draft? Thanks 😊 Men also get shamed for being far. Look at Chris Christie. Look at JB Pritzker. Look at Dave Blunts. At least they’re actually fun to hang out with and aren’t condescending to me Look at actuarial data. Women cost more to insure for health “care”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:48 AM
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Why do you say that? Do you have a source for your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:43 AM
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How is it men’s fault that prenatal care is expensive? How is it a man’s fault that women are more likely to go to frivolous checkups when they are prefectly healthy? Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:39 AM
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But it doesn’t usually do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:35 AM
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And Eminem received huge backlash. Ye is persona non grata these days. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:35 AM
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How is that any worse than calling men dicks and/or pricks?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:30 AM
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Name one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:01 PM
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It’s still a misandrist song, regardless of who wrote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:04 AM
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Odds are high that I won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:18 PM
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No. Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:17 PM
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If I had different reproductive organs, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:34 AM
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Yes, but my hypothetical grandchild’s life matters more than my hypothetical daughter’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:31 AM
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Still better than being dead. I’m male. I could not deliver a baby. I have no uterus and I have no vagina. Epidurals can deal with labour pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:42 AM
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Yes, I would. They would still be my grandchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:41 AM
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Because her life won’t be permanently difficult. Debt can be paid off and the child can be given up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:23 PM
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Yes, I would rather my daughter be deeply in debt than my grandchild lose their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:22 PM
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It’s still preferable to having your life stolen from you in the womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:01 PM
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No, what I meant is that a woman going bankrupt on a pregnancy is a lesser evil than ending an innocent life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:00 PM
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Your life is no less valuable if your father was a rapist. You get out of the foster care system when you turn 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:51 PM
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No. I acknowledge it, but it’s still a lesser evil than taking an innocent life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:51 PM
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I would rather one person suffer and both people live than one person die to spare the other one suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:47 PM
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Yes, but foster care is still better than DEATH. She’s losing something, but not her life. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:21 PM
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It should
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:11 PM
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Then the baby can go to foster care. The state should fund the doctor visits. Better she “loses” 9 months than her baby loses her entire life. And she’s not really losing 9 months. Pregnant women can still do fun stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:35 PM
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Foster care or raised by grandparents
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:12 PM
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Yes, because her child still had the right to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:04 PM
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I would 100% have had multiple UTIs as a baby than have to live my entire life with a mutilated remnant of a penis.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 06:17 AM
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Why do you think slut is worse than manchild?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:07 AM
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Being immature may annoy your partner, but it doesn’t hurt anyone, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:06 AM
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People also salivate when they see/smell food they want. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:13 AM
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Imagine if you consented to get peed on by a partner, and they then kicked you afterwards. Wouldn’t you be displeased?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:12 AM
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I don’t think it’s okay what Phil Spector did, and I’m glad he went to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:12 AM
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But it comes out of the sex organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:11 AM
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How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:11 AM
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They are “ejaculating” urine. Sometimes I fart when I cum, does that mean that I am “anally ejaculating”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:11 AM
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Because every US state has an exception for the life of the mother. Being conceived through rape doesn’t make your life any less valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:10 AM
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Is it a bad thing that boys are expected to conform to a masculine norm, though? A big part of that masculine norm is physical fitness. I got in shape to conform to the norm, but it also improved my life in so many ways. I don’t get winded constantly anymore, my joints don’t hurt, I’m not breathing heavily when I walk up a flight of stairs, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:57 AM
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I remain unconvinced that men are more likely to act on their entitlement in a dangerous way. Women can still be assholes to men even though they are smaller than us, because there is a huge societal taboo on men physically retaliating. A lot of times, when a wife hits her husband and he defends himself, he is the one charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:49 AM
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Sleeping around is not good behavior. Men who sleep around are also shamed for it, and they are. Do you remember that AITA post from a while back about a men whose girlfriend was upset that he had a body count in the upper double digits?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:50 PM
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Both sleeping around and being a Manchild are low-class but not malicious behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:20 PM
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At least you’re consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:30 PM
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The Rihanna incident is the only incident with Chris Brown that I’m aware of. I don’t follow him closely. I don’t have an excuse for any male celebrity. I already said I’m glad that Phil Spector went to prison even though he was a good producer. People only salivate once a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:29 PM
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The 70s music scene was way more tolerant, and this was before smartphones and social media where everything was filmed and posted where a mob of Tumblrinas itching to cancel anyone remotely “problematic” could see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:36 PM
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She didn’t get his consent for the kicking though, and how would you know? Unless you’re telling me you’re into that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:33 PM
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It comes out of the vagina, how is it not sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:31 PM
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The articles are wrong. I triple checked. All is state abortion bans include exceptions for the life of the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:28 PM
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But they don’t release liquids when they do, since they can’t ejaculate. (“Squirting” is just pee) That’s why I compared it to menstruation. Both are the release of reproductive fluids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:21 PM
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Can’t they keep it in their closet or dresser or something for more privacy? There’s no way to explain periods in a way that is appropriate for a young boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:20 PM
1

What would you say to a woman bothered by misogynistic music?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:11 AM
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Lots of us just watch him because we find him entertaining Lots of women feel entitled to men, too Sabrina fans might adopt demeaning behavior towards men because of this song Because women are privileged in modern America, so we want men and women to be equal. You don’t achieve equality by making the privileged group more privileged. I don’t think this is a problem. What species do you think they see women as? Bonus: this has nothing to do with Tate, I remember it being common over a decade ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:02 AM
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I googled to confirm that it was true before I responded to you with it. How is that not good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:53 AM
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Would you say the same to a woman who was bothered by a music with misogynistic sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:50 AM
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How is slut not an equal comparison? Both slut and Manchild refer to how people chose to be. Sleeping around is a choice, as is being a Manchild. Please don’t deadname Ye.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:45 AM
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Misogynistic lyrics are very rare in modern American music. As for abortion, a moral wrong can never be a right. The right to life is the most fundamental right there is. What movement are you talking about? I voted for President Trump, and if not for term limits, he would vote for him again and again. President Trump was found liable in a civil court, which has a vastly lower burden of proof. As for bodily autonomy, male genital mutilation is both legal and common (~70%) in the USA. FGM is ille…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:44 AM
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Prioritizing women’s feelings over men’s lives is misandrist. My life is not less valuable than a woman’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:39 AM
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There are other examples. Eminem got backlash, for example. The song does not perpetuate rape culture, anymore than WAP by Cardi B does. If it’s okay for women to sing songs about how horny they are, it’s okay for men to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:38 AM
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So your account is almost 2 years old, yet your only contributions to Reddit are 4 replies to me…interesting… It’s not underdiagnosed in women, it’s overdiagnosed in men. Compare rates of ADHD in the US and France. France is doing fine without diagnosing 10% of their children with a dubious mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:37 AM
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How do boys listening to Tate make things harder for teenage girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:15 AM
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All abortion bans include exceptions for the mother’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:03 PM
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Because of what I’ve observed in my 26 years of living in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:01 PM
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I only agree with abortion if the pregnancy is non-viable or likely to end the mother’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:58 PM
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If that’s the point, then it’s a morally broken point. Sounds by male artists that are demeaning to woman do not go unchallenged. They are usually heavily criticized. Remember Blurred Lines? That wasn’t anywhere near as demeaning to women as Manchild is to men, yet it was far more criticized. Name one equally misogynistic song by a man that was celebrated. Your comment seems very AI-generated, and women have not had to endure decades of lyrical mistreatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:00 AM
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So then, if you’re being consistent, you have no right to be upset that I objected to Manchild…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:31 AM
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That was a subjective opinion, not an objective truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:30 AM
1

What is your source for that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:27 AM
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Only the more severe forms of FGM. Labia trimming and hoodectomy don’t. I support banning all forms of involuntary genital cutting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:23 AM
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What is your ideal age gap BTW? I’m a year younger than my current GF
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:22 AM
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Circumcision also leads to lifelong complications like skin bridges, metal stenosis, emotional damage, erectile dysfunction, loss of pleasure, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:57 AM
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I agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with age gap relationships as long as both are adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:52 AM
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That is correct, fictional scenes vs real tragedies is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:51 AM
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I’m good to lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:49 AM
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So 10k in the clit vs up to 10k in the foreskin? Seems approximately comparable to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:48 AM
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The labia has vastly fewer nerve endings than the foreskin, and so does the clitoris. 8k in the clit, 20k in the foreskin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:11 AM
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That’s not true. The milder forms of FGM remove far less tissue and nerves than MGM. A pinprick on the clit or a clit hood trim is less severe than foreskin amputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:03 AM
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Most FGM does not involve that, though. Why do you say men not having that right doesn’t make women privileged?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:19 AM
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Interesting, thanks for explaining this all to me. Hope you have a great day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:40 AM
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And it’s a right that men don’t have. Both practices originated with the same justification and have very similar consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:30 AM
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Why don’t you believe women are privileged because of that? They are equivalent, look up “Sex and Circumcision: an American Love Story” by Eric Clopper and he explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:15 AM
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I like video games and movies a little. I spend hours online every day. Me and my GF do less and less together as time goes on. She’s mad at me because I sulked at a party she dragged me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:04 AM
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The privilege of having laws protecting bodily integrity. FGM doesn’t do more harm than MGM in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:55 AM
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Is their bodily autonomy more important than their child’s life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:46 AM
1

Are you offended by those songs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:45 AM
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There are no values I share with the feminists. I don’t love music. I listen to it casually, and have zero musical ability of my own. The thing I love the most is online discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:40 AM
1

Blurred lines is not a song about sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:39 AM
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I want them to acknowledge their privilege. Lots of FGM is performed in hospitals, much of it is less severe than circumcision, and circumcision was also started to reduce sexual pleasure, even though it now has taken on other justifications. Most FGM isn’t infibulation in a mud hut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:27 AM
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How can I reconcile my identity as an MRA with feminism, though? That’s like saying that I could reconcile being right-wing with being a democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:22 AM
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Not being able to end the life of your unborn child doesn’t mean you lack healthcare autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:03 AM
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No, because I don’t agree that women lack healthcare autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:59 PM
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How will I screw myself over?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:59 PM
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A majority of Hispanic men also voted for President Trump. How would men benefit from having an openly feminist president? I don’t want my tax money going to fund birth control. I don’t want abortion to be legal. Which men’s issues do you care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:50 PM
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How is feminism any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:48 PM
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I think men are less masculine and honest with feminism, and less likely to stand up for themselves. How are men subjugated by feminism? feminists pushed to gain for women all the rights men had, but not all the responsibilities (the draft) feminists are fine with women receiving shorter sentences than men for the same crimes (like the Australian woman who immolated a male “friend” and only got 4.5 years in prison feminists pushed to get FGM banned in the 1990s, but explicitly excluded MGM from …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:48 PM
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I’m not sure if that’s accurate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_bastard Notice that most British monarchs didn’t have illegitimate children. Let’s just look at the Stuart’s Charles II and James VII & II did, but Charles I and James VI & I didn’t. They all had the same opportunity to do so, but only half of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:40 PM
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But that doesn’t mean the men would actually cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:14 PM
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And just as a girl doesn’t need to know about her brother’s wet dreams, a boy doesn’t need to know about his sister’s periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:14 PM
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Only if we acknowledge that MGM but not FGM is legal, and that it’s illegal to charge women more for health insurance, despite them costing more to insure, but legal to charge men more for car insurance…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:13 PM
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Men get longer sentences than women for the same crime. Let’s start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:03 PM
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Why do you say I don’t know about Bianca? If she wants to do it, it’s her body, her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:02 PM
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Why are you a feminist despite being a man, and feminism not advocating for or emphasizing for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:02 PM
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I’ve written multiple posts on multiple subs about it in the past week. What rights do you feel women need to have advocated for that they don’t have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:57 PM
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I am not an only child and I wasn’t homeschooled, nor am I close to my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:56 PM
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That I would get to be part of it now when I wasn’t in the past. They have a right to be mad. Why don’t you think MGM is comparable to FGM?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:56 PM
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Bianca dressed like that in public even before meeting Ye. Don’t deadname him. She doesn’t view it as degrading, and neither do a lot of women. I’ve known women who like to go out in public wearing no bra. Lots of women like what she’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:52 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:07 PM
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IRL men don’t take feminism well, and with good reason. We just don’t talk about politics or gender issues with each other anymore. Feminism conflicts with male experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:07 PM
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I am less devoid of empathy towards women than feminists are towards men. As for the real patriot thing - I’m an Irish-American dual citizen whose primary loyalty is to Ireland, so I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:04 PM
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Some women enjoy being submissive and exposing themselves. Bianca Censori is another example. If they like showing off in a submissive way, who am I to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:03 PM
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There are plenty of posts there from years ago. They don’t want it discussed now because it proves women are privileged and that most feminists think “my body, my choice” is only for women. Do you condemn it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:37 PM
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The manosphere is a lot closer to reality than the feminists. I do treat every person as an individual, but I still recognize female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:34 PM
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Okay, but I specifically said if a man wrote songs like that, so linking to a poem is off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:28 PM
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I talked to my girlfriend a little bit about it and she got mad at me, so now I don’t talk about it with her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:28 PM
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Showing off your body isn’t degrading. Are Hugh Jackman and Arnold Schwarzenegger degrading themselves? Is Channing Tatum?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:20 PM
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Which proves that they are not allies to men. If they were, they would understand why many men are angry about this topic and be more understanding. There weren’t actual trolls, just men who were upset and said so, but that hurt the feelings of the feminists, so they disallowed the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:19 PM
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Do you have any evidence my predictions are wrong, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:18 PM
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Yes, because you posted in response to my comment “imagine if a man wrote songs”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:05 PM
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I do have a girlfriend, although the relationship isn’t doing so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:55 PM
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What do you think the problem with her is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:55 PM
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Correct. My comments come from a place of fairness and a desire for gender equality. Women are currently more privileged than men, so I advocate for men’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:54 PM
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I’m 26, I don’t care what my mother thinks. I’m a grown man who hasn’t lived in the same house as my parents in 3 years. In what way is it far from reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:53 PM
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The vast majority of people are not gender fluid, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:07 PM
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My second most recent post is a screenshot of the mod of the sub admitting that they censor discussion of the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:53 PM
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That’s a poem, not a song.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:52 PM
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You can’t even discuss the topic on the AskFeminists sub. That should tell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:51 PM
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I’m proud of voting for him. His policies appeal to me way more than Democrat policies, and I like that he made feminists upset. There’s nothing wrong with voting for a very mainstream presidential candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:41 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:38 PM
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The assertion that women naturally gravitate to monogamy more than men and tend to be loyal to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:38 PM
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What is your objection to my mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:36 PM
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The peeing was consensual, the kicking wasn’t. The audience also didn’t consent to watch that. Are you not familiar with the concept of a thought experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:18 PM
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In my personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:27 AM
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You’re being awfully defensive. I don’t need to continue this conversation with you, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:36 AM
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Why don’t you want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:17 AM
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Because?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:12 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:09 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:52 AM
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I’m 26. What points specifically did you object to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:35 AM
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Do you have any actual response to my proof of female privilege in my other post? How does seeing the world for what it is mean I’ve “twisted my brain into a pretzel”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:24 AM
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So you admit that you are not speaking from experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:24 AM
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Thank you for the explanation. I don’t find anything comforting about a woman singing about abusing men. I do find songs by male victims to be comforting, for example “You Love Me To Hate You” by KISS “Girl, you want me to plead, feel the thrill of my need”, for example If Mena is singing about it from experience, she should face legal consequences as an admitted abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:22 AM
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No, there isn’t, as evidenced by the tens of millions of people who voted for him, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:19 AM
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Fair enough. I didn’t realize weed was linked to schizophrenia. For the same reason girls that age shouldn’t learn about boners. Too young, could be traumatizing to them. Your point about Olivia’s audience is taken
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:44 AM
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No, women are more privileged than men in society. Read my post about it here: https://np.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/s/X8tQxmB8kM
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:34 AM
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But gaming and sci-fi use fictional violence, which makes it different. It’s the difference between watching Anakin’s immolation scene from Star Wars for entertainment and watching real videos of burn victims for entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:30 AM
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I didn’t like being judged, because we’re both consenting adults. The age gap discourse is ridiculous, because partners can be mismatched in so many ways, yet people say that because different ages tend to be more or less experienced, so it’s somehow wrong for them to date. Men also seem to get more age gap related criticism than women. For example, all the judgmental discourse around Leo vs Bonnie Blue (in her mid-20s) filming herself sleeping with 18 and 19 year old men and selling it on OF. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:29 AM
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Thank you for this comment, I agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:18 AM
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An aggressive male song about a bad relationship is “Rain When I Die” by Alice In Chains, but the aggression is mostly directed inwards, as is the norm for AIC. “Is she ready to know my frustration? What she slippin' inside, slow castration I'm a riddle so strong, you can't break me Did she come here to try, try to take me Did she call my name? I think it's gonna rain When I die” Ironically, it really did rain in Seattle the day Layne Staley died. Why would Maria Mena make a song about abusing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:17 AM
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Thanks, you too! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:13 AM
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Thank you for your thoughtful response :) Do you go to the pharmacist for a regular checkup on things like blood pressure, height, and weight? In the US, it’s normal to do routine bloodwork every couple years Interesting, thanks Interesting. Is your step-dad American? I can understand why to you, moving to a more stable environment was happier. Do you have an American or British accent? If not for having a good job already in the US, I would have left for Ireland years ago, never to return. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:12 AM
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I didn’t realize it was possible to become addicted to weed, but I’m a drinker, not a weed smoker. Does the extreme paranoia cause any lasting harm, though? Something like heroin will ruin your life, I know from being an Alice In Chains fan and seeing what it did to Layne. I’ll never touch the stuff. Because periods aren’t predators. They’re completely different concepts. Girls should learn about periods. There’s no reason boys should at that young of an age. If it’s okay for women to talk about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:59 AM
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Even if it’s partially a joke, do you really think a man singing this kind of stuff about women would be accepted if he said it was “partially a joke”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:42 AM
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Another post of mine lists some major advantages females have in modern American society See here: https://np.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/s/Nuwc5eAdXC
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:41 AM
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Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:37 AM
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Because middle aged men who chase young adult women are usually considered to be creepy for it. Leo Di Caprio for example. I even got some judgement for a brief fling I had with a 19 year old when I was 25, never mind that she was far more mature than me and way more on top of her life at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:34 AM
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When it’s using real tragedy for cheap entertainment, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:33 AM
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Why do you think that? And male artists did get pushback for smashing guitars. https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnhiatt/perfectlygoodguitar.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:32 AM
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Why do you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:30 AM
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I agree. Perhaps “forgive” is the wrong word, since they did nothing to me personally, but I’m definitely not going to hold someone’s past behavior against them if no one was seriously hurt by it and they’ve apologized and made amends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:29 AM
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I see your point, which is why I initially was comparing menstruation to nocturnal emissions, which are not voluntary. Menstruation isn’t shameful, but it should be kept private. I just don’t think it’s appropriate for boys to know about periods. Not relevant to their life, and a heavy, mature topic. Why do you keep saying that boys have exposure to periods through classmates? I didn’t have a girlfriend until after high school. I had zero exposure to periods through any of my platonic relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:07 AM
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Yes, because enough people already call it out, while not calling out the equivalent bigotry against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:00 AM
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Who is Freya? Being dependent is not a huge risk in the age of welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:54 PM
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The point is, women are treated better than men by society nowadays and they are more successful because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:53 PM
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At least you’re consistent. I’ll have to check out Cherry Wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:50 PM
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Weed is not harmful. Children need to be aware of that concept so that they can be safe and wary of strange adults. We had “stranger danger” lessons in kindergarten. Perhaps I do hold women to a higher standard, but only because society holds men to a higher standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:45 PM
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They’re not any more defensive than you’re being. Let me ask you, which is more rewarding - raising a family that loves you or making PowerPoints for a company that couldn’t care less about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:42 PM
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Would you be okay with a 34M who went after younger women, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:39 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:38 PM
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I’ve always believed that celebrities who did something bad, but it was just saying offensive, should get a second chance if they apologize genuinely and clean up their act. That goes for Azealia, Ye, Morgan Wallen, Kylie Irving, Mel Gibson, etc… (obviously not all of them have apologized and cleaned up their act, but if they do, they all should be forgiven)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:28 PM
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Thank you for the detailed reply. 18 is a legal adult. 21+ should not be a thing. If 18-year-olds can legally be pornstars and soldiers, there’s no reason they can’t go to a show with nudity and violence. I don’t think I would feel a rush of adrenaline and endorphins from having my mouth sewed shut. I hate needles. I avoid flu shots because I hate them so much (I did get the vaccine and booster shots, because that’s important enough to overcome my own needle phobia) How can you practice sewing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:22 PM
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At least you’re consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:14 PM
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Since when do girls talk about their periods with their male friends, though? How is knowing what alcohol is harmful? Everyone knows what alcohol is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:01 PM
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Thank you for the explanation. I have a few more questions. I hope it doesn’t feel like I’m interrogating you, I’m genuinely curious about this stuff. How do you get things like bloodwork, blood pressure tests, height and weight checked, etc? Why do you have a GP if you don’t see them? Why were you living in the US for a while? (I was born and raised in the US to an Irish family, and have Irish citizenship, and do not consider myself American and do not like living in the US). Did you like the U…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:46 PM
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The weird thing is that she’s not like Ye, someone releasing unfiltered music, she’s a heavily scripted and PR-driven pop star. This had to get approved by a huge number of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:00 PM
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Thank you for explaining that to me. Please don’t deadname Ye, though. The interesting thing is I only know Azealia Banks because of her internet antics, not because of her music.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:59 PM
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Do you have a source for her getting criticized for it? I don’t agree with her getting criticized for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:57 PM
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Look at the percentage of college graduates that were female 50 years ago and today. Look at the percentage of females in Congress 50 years ago and today. Etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:56 PM
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It has a lot to do with how society as a whole is. In a society where misogyny is more stigmatized than misandry, I, as a man, have no motivation to call out misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:54 PM
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Fine. I’ll name a male artist. Phil Spector. He was a good producer, but I’m glad he got cancelled. There are degrees of cancellation. Ye is cancelled to some degree. You criticized Ye for his recent content, and implicitly criticized those hosting it in doing so. I get the sense that you do want Ye to be cancelled to some extent, at least. Sure, you’re not super anti-Ye like the ADL is, but you also don’t seem to be as supportive and understanding of him as I am. I don’t support Rogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:53 PM
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I didn’t realize that, because they stopped happening for me once I started ejaculating regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:45 PM
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No, because housewives generally seem happier than career women, based on my own personal observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:39 PM
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I actually support decriminalizing drugs, even though I myself don’t use them, so I’m not going to be bothered by a celeb smoking weed. Kendrick isn’t one, though, calling Drake out for it isn’t an endorsement of it or being one himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:38 PM
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Menstruation and masturbation are both the release of reproductive fluids. Having a cold is about a respiratory infection. For the same reason girls at that age shouldn’t be told about erections and ejaculation. Boys can learn about it senior year of high school. If they have a girlfriend before that, I guess they can learn about it from her. It’s not alcohol abuse to get drunk a few days a month. I get drunk multiple times a month, but I am careful to stay below 14 drinks a week. If you were te…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:21 PM
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Menstruation and masturbation are both the release of reproductive fluids. Having a cold is about a respiratory infection. For the same reason girls at that age shouldn’t be told about erections and ejaculation. Boys can learn about it senior year of high school. If they have a girlfriend before that, I guess they can learn about it from her. It’s not alcohol abuse to get drunk a few days a month. I get drunk multiple times a month, but I am careful to stay below 14 drinks a week. If you were te…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:20 PM
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They are not identical, but menstruation is far more akin to masturbation than to having a cold or the flu or whatever people tried to compare it to. You can’t talk about periods without talking about vaginas and reproductive systems. Young boys shouldn’t be told about those things. It’s not appropriate for them, just like it’s not appropriate to tell girls of that age about erections and ejaculations. How is it a bad message to tell them mommy gets drunk on vodka? Should my nieces and nephews b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:12 AM
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Why do you consider Ye to be a misogynist? Imagine if Robocop had been written by Noah Kahan. Would you consider it misogynistic then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:54 AM
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Thanks for letting me know. I’ve always wanted to visit Scotland. Do you know the song “Loch Lomond”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:39 AM
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Thank you for clarifying, but don’t you think you’d be happier as a housewife?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:23 AM
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Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:54 AM
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What kind of job do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:49 AM
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Better a “plastic Paddy” than a migrant. At least I have millennia of indigeneity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:43 AM
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Neither should have been criticized although I think smashing guitars is stupid. Yes, sexism is a thing, but it is far more common against men than against women today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:42 AM
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Where are you originally from?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:41 AM
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Have you ever worked in such a workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:40 AM
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Well, at least you’re consistent in your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:40 AM
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I’ve never been in a single workplace where someone would get written up for calling an asshole an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:57 AM
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But you admit that no wrong would be done if disclosure was prioritized over your selfish desire for privacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:56 AM
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I don’t agree with that behavior, but it’s silly to criticize her and not Paul Stanley for it. (I love KISS, btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:55 AM
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Eating animals isn’t offensive to society the way public orgasms are. What did Phoebe Bridgers do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:15 AM
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So, if you wouldn’t want to become the subject of a true crime documentary, why are you okay with doing it to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:15 AM
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What is your source? You’re the one asserting, the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:14 AM
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I’m not sure about that, because I have a great memory for my dreams. Wet dreams only happen if you don’t ejaculate regularly. At least you’re consistent, though I doubt you’d be so nonplussed if you were the one being pissed on. I have conceded that Vampire is not misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:02 AM
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Feminism didn’t have the social influence it did then, though, even though the movement existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:43 AM
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Well, at least you’re consistent. I didn’t realize that periods could be made less unpleasant with flu meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:43 AM
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Thanks for explaining it to me. Do you get general checkups at all? Do you like having a socialized health system?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:42 AM
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Why do you say that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:09 AM
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I’ve been in multiple workplaces like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:06 AM
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Because Rihanna forgave him, and she’s the one he wronged. If you’re a Ye fan, why are you criticizing Spotify for letting the censored versions of the songs be on their platform? If you think it’s so bad for it to be there, why are you listening to it. Kind of hypocritical, if you ask me. If a male artist wrote a “girls are dumb” song, I think there would be backlash. There wasn’t backlash to Natalie, so now, I agree with you that there was no reason for there to be backlash against Vampire. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:06 AM
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Ye’s most recent song, HH, has a chorus of black men called “the Hooligans” in military formation chanting “all my [ninjas] Nazis, [ninja] HH”, combined to references to being a cuck and other provocations, intertwined with complaints that he can’t see his kids. It’s funny to me because of the sheer absurdity of it. Ye also sent the Hooligans to perform HH at Diddy’s Hollywood Walk of Fame Star, when they got kicked out, they went to a local mall, where they were kicked out as they got in format…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:56 AM
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Fair enough, I guess we just have to agree to disagree about Urista. When did an artist perform nude at a festival? Fair enough, perhaps my initial reaction to Vampire was too hasty. What do you think the answer is that explains why women are more privileged per my points that you admitted had validity? Why didn’t you think my first post had validity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:47 AM
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Morning wood is not usually sexually motivated. It just happens. I understand that periods take longer, but they involve the reproductive system, which makes them more like a priapism than like the flu. Should girls know the basic functions of the human body, even if it’s not their own body?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:45 AM
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So how frequently do you have routine screenings? Do you think not doing routine checkups increases the risk of problems not being caught? I’m genuinely curious, because I’ve been to the doctor once since 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:43 AM
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I would say that a lot of the older performers like Steve Perry are pretty authentic. His onstage self and his offstage self are pretty much the same in terms of mannerism and personality. Just like the songs he wrote in his solo career tend to be pretty reflective and nostalgic, he seems pretty introverted IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:42 AM
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Why should I be less forgiving of Chris than Rihanna was? It’s one thing to not try to save Ye, it’s another thing to completely cut him off. The point is, the offensive parts were removed. Interesting how you know what the new version of WW3 sounds like, though. Unless 75% of her fans are gay/bi women (unlikely, given how few people are gay/bi), how would that photo appeal to straight women? At least you’re consistent. I applaud you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:40 AM
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I would want the out of character answer, just like if I wanted Sacha Baron Cohen’s opinion on something, I wouldn’t want him to answer as Borat. Thanks for the explanation about sterility. I didn’t realize the needles were brought onstage in a package. You really think she has sewn her own mouth shut? I remember when I had a canker sore. It hurt like Hell. Why would someone voluntarily go through that, scarring their face for life, for a shock performance? I don’t really think you can respect m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:38 AM
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As long as you admit you’re being inconsistent and having one set of standards for yourself, and one set of standards for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:16 AM
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I didn’t realize everyone had their phones out. Sorry. I admit my error. She didn’t just kick him, though, she also pissed on his face. Yes, she’s very popular, but she’s not a multi-instrumentalist like Bruno. She didn’t write songs for others before becoming famous like Bruno. She doesn’t have the level of respect among legit musicians that Bruno does. You can read my better examples in this post of mine https://np.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/s/C9CBehBnda
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:15 AM
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No, because pissing isn’t talking about the genitals/reproduction in the same way. Pissing isn’t part of reproducing, but menstruating is. Women urinate out of their urethra, not their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:11 AM
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Fair enough, at least you’re consistent. Do you consider “Robocop” by Ye or “You Love Me To Hate You” by KISS to be misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:10 AM
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That isn’t an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:09 AM
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In an entirely different social climate. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:09 AM
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Did I ever say they shouldn’t have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:08 AM
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Pissing on someone is a kink practice called golden shower. That’s why it’s worse to do in public. People going to a GG Allin show were expecting that. People going to a Brass Against show weren’t. That’s the difference. Is it appropriate for them to hear about erections and ejaculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:06 AM
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Interesting. Why doesn’t the UK have routine yearly checkups? Their medical system is way better than the US’s. I see your point, but I still think that nocturnal admissions are more akin to periods than erectile dysfunction or checking your testicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:58 AM
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So if you would be bothered by it happening to you, you shouldn’t be okay with it happening to others. Have you heard of the golden rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:56 AM
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I’ve worked in jobs where we constantly curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:56 AM
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The question is - are there acts that should still be off-limits even if all the participants consent? It’s an interesting ethical dilemma. I don’t think she respects men. With the the Bonnie Blue petting zoo thing, at least she’s just doing sexual stuff, not physically damaging stuff. What value do you see in it as art? If you like art that is shocking just for shock’s sake, check out the album “Cuck” by Ye, and the parody artist Rucka Rucka Ali. Dave Blunts is another shock value artist who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:55 AM
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Because Eminem’s rap persona is so over the top that I can’t take it seriously. Some celebrities are being their authentic selves. Azealia Banks, as problematic as she is, I have no doubts she’s authentic. Same with a lot of the older stars who are now old and rich, but still act the way they always did. Ye’s crash out, although stemming from mental illness, is real in the sense that it’s not calculated. He’s not genuinely a Nazi, but he is, currently, genuinely an edgelord trying to be as shock…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:43 AM
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The golden shower is far more explicit than topless women who cover their nipples with pasties. DaBaby, what he did was wrong, but at least it wasn’t an unprovoked hit, he did it because she violated photography policy. Urista never apologized to the guy, just belatedly to the general public on instagram. Rodrigo is talented, but not nearly as talented as Bruno Mars. Remember, she got her start as a child actor. She didn’t work her way to the top as a musician. Her music is also less complex tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:35 AM
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If Rihanna hadn’t forgiven him, I wouldn’t have, either. They should have the maturity to understand that he’s only acting like that because he has multiple mental illnesses that are being exacerbated by an unethical dentist getting him addicted to nitrous oxide. All of the references to Nazis and antisemitism were removed from the songs on Spotify. Why do you think Sabrina Carpenter’s naked Rolling Stone cover is geared at women? Would you be upset if a man you knew liked family guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:19 AM
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Do you have any evidence for this assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:06 AM
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And are you offended by those songs, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:06 AM
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You still didn’t explain how my comments make it seem like I’m looking for every excuse not to live life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:04 AM
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60s counterculture was less prudish than modern society. Morrison was part of the counterculture. Timberlake did not intend to expose her boob, just her bra. John was very problematic and would probably have been cancelled if he had lived. Periods are a reproductive system function. Urination and defecation are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:03 AM
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I don’t think that extreme dominatrix stuff should be allowed, either. What band did live suspension? How can they be sure the equipment is sterilized after being dragged onto a stage? I wonder if you asked her if she respects men, what she’d say. How would she feel if someone did that to her? I wonder if she even tried to help the guy afterwards, said nice things to him or gave him painkillers. The image of a woman sewing a man’s mouth shut, especially in public, viscerally disgusts me, and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:53 AM
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But you’re a stranger to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:42 AM
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Clearly, you’ve never been to a karaoke bar, then. Lots and lots of cursing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:42 AM
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“Every girl I ever talked to told me you were bad, bad news” - contributing to an environment where disgruntled exes can make it hard for their ex-bf to find a new relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:41 AM
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No, but she still exposed herself in public and could have gone to jail for public indecency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:04 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:03 AM
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Because I’m alive now. I didn’t live through tje 70s, so what was okay then has no bearing on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:03 AM
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There is a difference between an artist playing an exaggerated version of themselves (like Taylor Swift, who I also don’t like) and an artist playing an absurd character like Eminem or Borat. Fair enough. I wonder why female and male tastes are so different in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:02 AM
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They are less inappropriate than public displays of horniness. She did a shock thing once. GG Allin did a shock thing every time he was on stage. You asked what she said and I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:01 AM
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But don’t most people, especially young people who are still on their parents insurance, go to the doctor for a yearly checkup?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:00 AM
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Why do you say I’m looking for every excuse not to live life? Almost all of my youth has already been wasted, I’ll be middle aged in 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:59 AM
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Perhaps they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:58 AM
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Rihanna forgave him, so why shouldn’t I? When did I defend Eminem? I said he was playing a character. I’m not personally a huge fan, and I think a lot of his lyrics go too far. Ye is cancelled. A-listers won’t collab with him anymore, and Spotify only hosts the censored versions of his new songs. He’ll never gain his previous popularity back. He also lost his contract with Adidas. Fair enough. TBH, I like her Rolling Stone cover, for entirely selfish reasons, but that doesn’t mean I will overloo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:57 AM
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To some extent, yes. There’s a difference between drunk adults with nipple pasties and hardcore golden showers on stage. Still, if a man kicked a woman like that, there would be outrage. And she invited him up onto the stage, so she has no right to complain if he didn’t immediately get off of it. I disagree, but if you think so, at least you’re being consistent. I had never heard the song before, but I will check it out. Thank you. I will also check out Okay Cool. I think one reason Bruno doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:53 AM
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I didn’t know that. Thanks for telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:48 AM
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If someone kicked you like that, would you object? I never said that Vampire was misandrist fully. I said it had some misandrist undertones. I remember my dreams. I know that some people don’t, but I do, and I even write them down. I do have sexual dreams from time to time, and remember them. I no longer have nocturnal emissions because I have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:47 AM
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But female artists get less backlash, that’s what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:46 AM
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So if you acknowledge he’s in a category of his own for mental illness, why is it so bad that he is sort of getting away with it a little bit? All he did was say offensive things. He didn’t assault anyone. He’s said he’s done with antisemitism. I empathize with a mentally ill man going through a tough period. I am not making exceptions for every single male artist. I already said that I didn’t like a lot of Eminem’s lyrics and I thought they went too far. There is a difference between deporting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:45 AM
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Depending on what specifically she says about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:39 AM
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I disagree but fair enough. He was a serious artist but he intentionally leaned into shock. People who “hate rap but love Eminem” are probably racist, at least a little bit. Why is it bad to be reminded of horny boys? Women are just as horny as men, as I have learned from multiple girlfriends and one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:36 AM
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I have a piss fetish, too, but I don’t let it influence my social views. Think with your big head, not your little head. Also, it’s fine to be into kinky stuff as long as it’s consensual for everyone involved. The audience didn’t consent to watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:33 AM
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If I ever get the chance to have children, I would feel very uncomfortable discussing menstruation around them, but YMMV. I don’t think you think I’m stupid, don’t worry. :) Brass Against hasn’t done anything like that before or since. I have a piss fetish, but I also hate anything femdom adjacent. I don’t let my fetishes influence my worldview, though. Would I be turned on if women routinely pissed on the sidewalk? Yes, but I recognize that it would be bad for society, make the city smell awful…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:31 AM
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Have you never been to a bar or a club? Profanity is the norm, even though the people there are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:22 AM
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So you’re fine with it when it’s other people’s privacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:21 AM
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No, humans are a monogamous species. Pair bonding is the norm for humans. Charles II does not represent what most men with that level of power would do. And if men are naturally polygynous, women are naturally polyandrous, since it seems that men and women are equally represented in the polyamory community and women cheat a lot, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:21 AM
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It was a more permissive time in many ways. Feminism and social justice ideology wasn’t nearly as culturally prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:18 AM
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So is masturbation, but that doesn’t make it okay to say “I edged for 2 hours last night until I made a huge sticky goo mess” in public. Because all ages understand what alcohol is. Kids go to restaurants, weddings, etc…too. Which do you think would be more traumatizing for a young boy: “mommy has a headache because she drank too much vodka last night” or “mommy has a headache because her vagina is bleeding”, and then you would have to explain what a vagina is to him also, and then you’d have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:17 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:58 AM
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How do I sound like someone who never got a birthday as a kid and thus refuses to celebrate birthdays as an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:57 AM
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I was trying to compare it to peeing on someone on stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:55 AM
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But the point I’m making is that he did get a lot of backlash for it, even if it wasn’t enough to keep him from being successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:54 AM
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Because sexuality in public is inappropriate. She’s not a shock artist, though, other than that one incident, she/her band is not about shock. Olivia said she was having her period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:54 AM
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Fair enough, I think you’re probably older than me. My argument is that men could never get away with doing that kind of stuff these days, I know they did decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:52 AM
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Because everyone knows what alcohol is. Unless your kid has never been to a non-fast-food restaurant, a wedding, or any kind of holiday celebration, they know what alcohol is. Alcohol isn’t a private thing like periods. I also don’t think alcohol is harmful, as long as you don’t drink to excess and don’t drive drunk. I drink a lot of alcohol, but I rarely get hangovers because I know how to moderate myself and I know my limits and I never drive drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:51 AM
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Sure, a lot of celebs are heavy drinkers or chain smokers who maybe have mild OCD or anxiety. That’s not in the same ballpark as being a depressed, bipolar, autistic nitrous addict who has PTSD from his mom’s death. That’s why I forgive Ye. He’s not a bad person, he’s a troubled person who is lashing out. I see what you mean, but I still don’t think it’s getting away with it when he had his show in Korea cancelled because of the song, and could only upload the censored version. What are they say…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:49 AM
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I already said I don’t think those are very ethical, either. The obligation to be ethical is on both the producer and the consumer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:44 AM
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Jim Morrison suffered a consequence for flashing, though. The Timberlake-Jackson thing was an accident, and Lennon was not a wife-beater. He hit her once and then regretted it, apologized, and never did it again. They are inappropriate for the same reason it’s inappropriate for girls of that age to know about ejaculation and erections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:43 AM
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Hopefully the culture will become less hostile towards men soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:41 AM
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I applaud you for your consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:41 AM
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Is there anything inherently dirty or naughty about morning wood? Name one man who was convicted in a criminal court of rape who still has a successful career.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:39 AM
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I’ll check it out. You didn’t answer my question about if they got backlash for it, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:37 AM
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The benefit is that you would have the same standard for both genders. Take it from me, being male and seeing all the double standards favoring females doesn’t feel very good. How does talking causally about periods help get people diagnosed? I can understand talking about periods with your doctor, but since when can your friends diagnose you with anything unless they are doctors? I’m glad you were able to get a diagnosis, and I hope your treatment was successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:37 AM
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Interesting, I didn’t realize that Olivia Rodrigo had a lot of lesbian fans. Since most gay men I know prefer female singers, I assumed most gay women would prefer male singers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:30 AM
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I linked the video showing the kicking in another reply to you. She was charged but the charges were dropped. That’s a fair point, with Bruno Mars. One of the reasons he gets no backlash could be because of how multitalented he is. Great singer, songwriter, dancer, plays multiple instruments well, and made his own way in the music industry instead of being a child actor. Eminem did receive a ton of backlash for his violent lyrics. He has been banned from multiple stations and venues for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:30 AM
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So do you think if you swapped the genders, the pee-er would still not suffer any legal consequences? I’m not even personally offended, it’s putting out songs with misandrist undertones when you’re a serious artist with a young fan base. Eminem was so over the top that he was clearly playing a character, just like I’m not offended by Borat or Rucka Rucka Ali. The more subtle stuff is actually worse than the more overt stuff, because people can recognize the more overt stuff as shock value, not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:26 AM
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Much of the time, I can’t even understand the words they are saying, especially if it’s not a song I already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:12 AM
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I googled and it seems the topless women there have to cover their nipples with pasties. Here’s the video, you can see her kick him: https://files.catbox.moe/uy29pz.mp4 (NSFW obviously, I’m only posting it to prove she kicked him) Wet dreams don’t always involve titillating thoughts. When I first started ejaculating, I would sometimes wake up with sticky underwear, despite having not had any sexual dreams. I guess we just disagree as to whether or not periods are inherently sexual. What’s the J …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:11 AM
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No, for example, I don’t consider “Someone Like You” by Adele to be misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:47 PM
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Are the female celebrities mentally ill, with substance issues the way Ye is? Hallelujah is on streaming services, but I doubt it will be heard on the radio. He’s not getting away with it when he had to change the lyrics to get it allowed on streaming services. Someone who hears Hallelujah but doesn’t know the backstory wouldn’t hear the song as offensive. Where has she received criticism for misandry other than from me? Lots of women are also defending her album cover. Personally, I’m fine with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:07 PM
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The different is that everybody poops and farts. Only post-pubescent, pre-menopausal women menstruate. The fan consented to the pee, not the kicking, and the audience didn’t consent to watch it. I learned about the Mentors and the Genitorturers from this thread. I recognized the name Iggy Pop but don’t know his work. I know of GG Allin because I read about him on I think cracked years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:55 PM
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That doesn’t make it okay, just like it’s not okay to rape an unconscious person. It should be illegal. “Religious freedom” doesn’t give you the right to carve your religion into someone else’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:45 PM
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Because Ye has the mitigating factor of severe mental illness and substance issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:43 PM
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What do they define as sexual assault? Pretty sure for male victims, most of the perpetrators are female.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:42 PM
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Should girls know about erections and ejaculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:42 PM
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Agreed. This is a huge part of why feminism frustrates me. Women are privileged and get away with more, so it bothers me to see them acting as if they were an oppressed minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:36 PM
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Well, I hadn’t even heard of either of those until today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:35 PM
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I don’t think she got any more criticism than MJ did for the move. Keep in mind, her stage persona was always much more sexual than his.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:34 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/SFGFHZTokd
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:33 PM
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I disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:32 PM
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Very little of it. I know that rappers get criticized for their lyrics all the time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:32 PM
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Irish women also, based on my experiences, are no where near as misandrist, on average, as American women. Compare Janet Devlin’s TikToks defending the natural male body to Taylor Swift dumping Harry Styles for being intact. Compare the way I saw my grandmothers treat my grandfathers and how I saw my American friends grandmothers treat their grandfathers. Compare the experiences I’ve had with American women in bars to the experience I’ve had with Irish women in bars. I haven’t had a very happy l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:32 PM
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I don’t see anything misogynistic about that song, it’s just horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:24 PM
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You’re not the first one to link that song here. I don’t agree with the lyrics, but the 80s were a more permissive time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:23 PM
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And he was a shock artist. His audience knew what they were signing up for. Completely different than a mainstream pop artist with a young fan base.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:20 PM
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What does this have to do with the comment of mine that you replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:17 PM
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No, you are misinterpreting what I said. By “it” I meant the credible allegations, not naming the female parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:16 PM
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Yes, back in a more permissive time, and it seems they did get in trouble for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:15 PM
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Other than GG Allin (who was a shock artist), none of those are sexual the way pulling your pants down and urinating on someone or talking about your bleeding vagina are. There were boys in the audience. It’s not appropriate for them to be exposed to period talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:15 PM
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Josh Homme did nothing wrong. I wouldn’t have apologized if I were him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:12 PM
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I’ve never heard of it other than shock artists like GG Allin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:06 PM
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Because women don’t seem to find both equally objectionable. Why would I object to prejudice against a group that doesn’t object to prejudice against me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:05 PM
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I am 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:04 PM
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Other than shock artists like Iggy Pop and GG Allin, who? There were boys in that audience. Periods are not relevant or appropriate for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:04 PM
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How is that normal stuff from celebrities? Why are you bringing up Ye (stop deadnaming him) specifically? His music is respectful to women, see “Hey Mama” for example. Eminem got tons of backlash for his lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:01 PM
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How is it shifting the goalposts? I said I didn’t like them either. I didn’t endorse them. You don’t think viewers have an obligation to make sure they are only consuming ethical content?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:00 PM
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Thank you for providing the studies. I may have been wrong about men getting touched more, but keep in mind that men are less likely to report than women. Sorry if I shifted the goalposts, but I do think the men’s height vs women’s weight discussion is one worth having, even if not in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:58 PM
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This is the first time I’ve heard of it. Is it funny? Did they get backlash for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:49 PM
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So then why not just “I’m a bit sick, but not contagious” and leave your vagina blood out of it? You could even say “I’m hungover and have a headache”, or “I didn’t sleep well last night”. Those same excuses could be used for a boy asking why his mom needs extra rest. Why does a boy need to know if his classmate is starting her period? I never knew if my female classmates were menstruating, nor did I need to. Your penultimate paragraph appears to be the minority opinion among women. Most of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:48 PM
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The benefit is that it would mean men don’t get left out of this new openness around involuntary reproductive emissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:25 PM
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Thank you for clarifying. I think both play a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:24 PM
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So you’re saying you wouldn’t be offended by an equivalent song about a woman written by a man, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:22 PM
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I made a post here about the Manchild song a couple days ago, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:18 PM
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How so? I have. Are you offended by it? Which proves my point. Why do male artists have to act sanitized for youth appeal but not female artists?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:18 PM
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Both are the involuntary release of fluids from your reproductive organs. Lots of boys feel shame about awkward boners or wet dreams also. Every guy has an experience of trying to avoid getting called to the chalkboard/whiteboard in school because he’s pitching a tent. What if boys were in the audience and they didn’t know what a period was? Why does a boy need to know about periods anyway? It’s not relevant to his life until he’s old enough to have a girlfriend. “Vampire” feels aggressive and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:16 PM
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I’ve never witnessed it, but I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:55 PM
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I completely agree. All 4 of my grandparents were/are Irish, I have Irish citizenship, and I hope to one day return to Ireland and leave the US behind forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:53 PM
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I doubt the number is that high, unless they’re counting more than just rape. However, statistics do not guarantee a fact about any specific set of individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:52 PM
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Don’t deadname Ye. People are defending him because it’s obvious he doesn’t really mean it but is just trying to be edgy, because he’s an attention-seeker with a substance problem who never really got over losing his mom. Ye reworked HH into Hallelujah, which has no more Nazi themes. He uploaded it, not Spotify. What’s objectionable about a song saying “Hallelujah, all my [ninjas] got me”? Eminem was playing a character. Rihanna forgave Chris Brown, so I don’t see why the rest of us shouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:50 PM
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If you make that assertion, the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:46 PM
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Imagine if someone made a pop song where being misogynistic was literally the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:41 PM
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Can’t indecency charges be pressed by local law enforcement even if no civilian presses charges? I’m sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:40 PM
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I know about those, but those are very niche acts. Are you really going to say that GG Allin is akin to Olivia Rodrigo in terms of mainstream popularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:29 PM
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How has she gotten away with torturing men on stage? Shouldn’t she go to jail for that? Gena sounds like a horrible person. And notice, that’s worse than anything the men in your previous comment did. I don’t know how Gena can live with herself. She should remind herself of the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:26 PM
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Fair enough, but keep in mind, the 70s were a more permissive time. Modern musicians could not get away with what 70s musicians did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:25 PM
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She could have been charged for public indecency or for assault, since she kicked him in the face after pissing in his eyes. If not a period, then how about morning wood? That’s not sexual, either. It’s an absurdly normal thing that just happens to men for decades. What is worse that male singers have gotten away with talking about on stage? Rappers do get away with more, but their concerts tend to be 18+ events
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:24 PM
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Fair enough. It surprises me that you think a lot of men would cheat on a good housewife who put out when he wanted it. Most men want a partner like that and wouldn’t want to lose her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:11 PM
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100% agree. It would be nice if feminists would stand up for men the way they want us to stand up for them, but they seemingly have no interest in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:03 PM
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And Eminem was constantly criticized for his lyrics, banned from some radio stations, and heavily censored on others. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:02 PM
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Why do you say that? Boogers and the flu have nothing to do with the reproductive system. Would you think it was good if a male performer said “oops I popped a random boner” in front of an all ages audience? There’s no reason boys need to know about periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:00 PM
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To help support the assertion I was making in the first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:58 PM
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Credible allegations of sexual crimes. Giving someone a golden shower on stage is indecent exposure, since the audience didn’t consent to watch it. She also kicked him in the face after she peed on him, so if Chris Brown’s career suffered for the Rihanna thing, Urista’s should, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:57 PM
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Credible allegations of sexual crimes. Giving someone a golden shower on stage is indecent exposure, since the audience didn’t consent to watch it. She also kicked him in the face after she peed on him, so if Chris Brown’s career suffered for the Rihanna thing, Urista’s should, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:57 PM
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Evidence of the double standard I was talking about in my OP. Did you read the comment I was replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:54 PM
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Maybe GG Allin, but not mainstream performers. You can’t compare MJ’s crotch grab, which was about moving with the rhythm of the music, to something done with sexual intent. Listen to him tell Oprah why he grabs his crotch. It wasn’t about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:51 PM
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Regardless of why, she’s talking about her reproductive system on stage. That’s not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:50 PM
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I’m not trying to be. I’m just stating my views, and I also know the difference between your and you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:47 PM
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The problem is, she did it in front of an audience that wasn’t solely composed of adults. She also kicked the shit out of him afterwards, which wasn’t consensual. If Chris Brown got arrested for hitting a woman, she should have gotten arrested for kicking a man. Periods are inherently sexual…they indicate your sex organs are functioning properly. Do you think having a nocturnal emission is something that only happens after the age of 18? Imagine if some grade school boy had been in the audience …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:47 PM
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I guess you have more mainstream tastes in music than me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:10 PM
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Then why did you say in an earlier reply that you would mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:10 PM
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Multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:08 PM
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It’s vulgar, but not offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:08 PM
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Why do you say they’re not remotely the same? How can talking about genitals be anything but sexual? Women sexualize men all of the time. Yes, I just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:08 PM
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Then we should accept men talking about women the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:06 PM
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Then they should have charged her with that, they way they would have if a male singer had peed on a female fan onstage. She also kicked the dude, and I don’t think that was consensual. Shame she didn’t go behind bars for a few years. Rarely, and the men who do get shamed for it. See the backlash to Eminem’s lyrics for example. Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:03 PM
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She still could have been charged for public indecency. Peeing on him made her and her band more famous, not less, so you can’t argue it got her cancelled. How is a period not similar to a wet dream? Both are involuntary genital emissions that signify reproductive capability. I know some singers (of both genders) have explicit songs, but I’ve never seen any male singers talking in between songs about ejaculation or anything. The 80s were a more permissive time in general, and while I’d love to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:58 PM
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You can write a song about an individual that still has negative undertones about a group they’re part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:48 PM
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That’s why I said it has misandrist undertones instead of calling it misandrist fully the way I did with the Sabrina Carpenter song in the other thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:47 PM
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The whole point of Anakin is that he was a good person who made some bad choices, but he still had enough inner goodness to be redeemed in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:35 PM
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I’m talking about on stage behavior, and I’ve never heard a song from a mainstream artist about ejaculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:23 PM
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What/who is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:38 AM
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I’m glad about that. If you want the other conversation to stop, then you can stop replying to it and I will respect that and not try to start it back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:37 AM
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Sadly, lots of people in the US (where I live) don’t agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:34 AM
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That’s fine, if you stop replying to the other conversation, I will also stop and we can discuss this thread here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:32 AM
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How are they not comparable? I already conceded that masturbatory ejaculation isn’t comparable. Involuntary nocturnal ejaculation is, though, because it is just as involuntary as periods, and also demonstrates reproductive capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:30 AM
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This is the first time I heard of this or of Iggy Pop, but I thank you for bringing him to my attention. It’s 3:30 AM here, and I’m about to go to bed, but I’ll read more when I wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:29 AM
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We agree on this, then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:27 AM
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Because I can, and since I’m not supposed to bring that topic into threads here anymore where it isn’t relevant, I can still search the comments of people I argue with here (I use mobile Reddit), and if I find a comment about it in another sub, I can respond there. I won’t respond to anymore comments from you about that topic here. If you want to discuss it with me, keep it to the other sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:26 AM
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His popularity has decreased significantly and he is widely seen as a scumbag Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:24 AM
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So they should either both be normalized or both be stigmatized, for reasons of fairness and gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:23 AM
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No. I remember my dreams. Nocturnal emissions, like morning wood, can happen for no reason whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:22 AM
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Both are involuntary but signal reproductive capability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:20 AM
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The guy who just got arrested? At least you’re consistent, but I don’t see why you say they are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:19 AM
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Do you think if a male performer talked about his morning wood at a music festival, he would get away with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:19 AM
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Not always. I remember, when I was younger, I would sometimes wake up with sticky underwear despite not having any sexual dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:18 AM
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Wet dreams are no more voluntary than periods. That’s why I’m comparing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:16 AM
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Why isn’t it? Comedians with an adult audience are not equivalent to pop stars with an all ages audience. Name one male musician in the last 10 years who has gotten away with worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:15 AM
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Why do you say they aren’t? Neither the menstruating woman nor the nocturnally emitting man has any control over their genitals releasing liquids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:13 AM
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Do you really think a male musician could get away with peeing on a female fan on stage? Menstruation is as sexual as nocturnal emissions - an involuntary thing that demonstrates reproductive capability I am 26 Raunchy comedians aren’t the same as mainstream musicians
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:11 AM
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It’s not the same as masturbatory ejaculation, but I would argue it’s the same as involuntary ejaculation, in that it symbolizes reproductive function and is not voluntary. Name one male artist who has talked about his ejaculation on stage I want men and women to be held to the same standards That was gross, but not sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:05 AM
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The police did get involved, but she got away with it and had no charges that stuck. No one has heard from the fan since he was peed on. If a man wrote an equivalent song about a woman, would you be offended? The same way Olivia discussed her period. Both are involuntary things that show your reproductive system is functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:02 AM
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They are equivalent. In both cases, you are talking about an event that shows your reproductive capabilities but isn’t voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:59 AM
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I agree. I also think the entertainment industry awards people with narcissistic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:59 AM
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Because men could never get away with discussing their ejaculations in public the same way. Because, when you live your entire life as a member of the gender that gets away with almost nothing while the other gender gets away with almost everything, it wears on you. If you’re sure of that, then the burden of proof is on you, since you’re the one making the assertion. Find a male performer getting away with equivalent stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:58 AM
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You will notice that I compared periods not to a voluntary masturbatory ejaculation, but rather to a nocturnal emission, which, just like a period, is a sign of a functional reproductive system, but not a choice by the person who does it. Why do boys at that age need to know what a period is? Do girls at that age need to know what an ejaculation is? Since it’s socially acceptable for women to say penis and testicles, shouldn’t it be equally acceptable for men to say vagina, vulva, and labia? Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:54 AM
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Exactly! Thank you for providing more supportive evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:32 AM
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My ascribing of motive is based on a combination of my observations and Occam’s razor, though. How can anyone think Anakin is creepy? He’s volatile, yes, but that’s not the same thing as being creepy. He never does anything perverted. He has anger issues and lashes out, but how is that creepy? He’s clearly not a psychopath. He loves deeply. That’s why he’s willing to become evil for Padme. That’s why the first question he asks when he is put in the suit is “Where is Padme? Is she safe? Is she al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:11 AM
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In that case, why did you say that slut shamey songs tend to imply that all women have that behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:23 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:23 AM
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What information did I make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:22 AM
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No, just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t make it satire. I’ve explained all of my views and provided evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:54 AM
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Slut shamey songs don’t imply all women are like that. Even most slut shamers have some women they respect. It’s not clear if there are any men Carpenter respected. And you still didn’t answer my question…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:54 AM
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Well, as long as you are consistent with both genders, that’s fine with me. What specifically did they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:28 AM
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The difference is, unlike true crime victims, football players consented to take on that risk. Calling out someone for being into something messed up is holding them accountable, not treating them poorly. Essentially, I see a moody young man who looks cool while ranting angstily, and I live vicariously through him. I have a bunch of my favorite Anakin scenes bookmarked on YouTube. Not any of the evil things he did, but the ranting and the Mustafar and being put in the suit scenes. I think Leia c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:27 AM
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Fair enough, but I still think they should be careful their ranting doesn’t cross the line into misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:49 AM
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Thank you for the explanation. I agree with this. There is a rape culture, but not the way the feminists say there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:43 AM
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I was responding to your comments about Star Wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:25 AM
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That didn’t answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:25 AM
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That’s the thing, though, I think true crime treats victims and their loved ones poorly. I don’t agree with the whole youngling thing. It was a poor decision on his part, although I thought the scene was well-done from a dramatic standpoint. I like the glaring, the evil eyes, the angsty ranting. I find that relatable. He just looks cool, especially in the scenes on Mustafar. How did the prequels mess with the canon of the original trilogy? (Interestingly, that’s how I feel about the sequels - th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:24 AM
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Fair enough. At least you’re consistent. Why do you think advising people to avoid content is better than trying to shut down the genre? Ye wrote a song about fellating his cousin. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:17 AM
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In what way do you think it is real? The only way I’ve heard the term used is by feminists to speak poorly of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:16 AM
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Rude isn’t necessarily offensive, though. When my girlfriend tells me that Taco Bell gives her the shits, I’m not offended
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:22 AM
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So then why would you mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:05 AM
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Why do you think calling it out is over the line? Why do you think my love of prequel Anakin is off putting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:05 AM
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Would you say the same thing to a woman upset about a song with misogynistic sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:03 AM
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I would 100% rather be a woman in this society than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:02 AM
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So if you would mind, then how come you don’t find it unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:02 AM
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It’s crude, that doesn’t necessarily make it offensive. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:01 AM
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Fair enough. How would you feel if something happened to a friend of yours and it was turned into a true crime show? As for the cousins thing, have you heard Ye’s new song “Cousins”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:01 AM
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You know the lyrics to most of the songs you hear on the radio?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:00 AM
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A fetal pig, but nothing human.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:59 AM
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I’m not splitting hairs. Scholarly documentaries are respectful in a way sensationalized infotainment isn’t. What are the ethical lines that you think it’s acceptable to have true crime content within? No one is making me watch, but are they asking the loved ones of the victims for consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:59 AM
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You are also speaking from your experience as a woman, so I don’t see what your criticism is here. I agree those other lyrics are bad. I never defended them. Mocking a man for his height is hurtful because it’s an immutable characteristic that has a significant impact on his life. I’m 6’ but I still wish I was 6’4”, which is the ideal male height. For some reason, it’s seen as more acceptable to demean a man for his height (which he can’t change) than to demean a woman for her weight (which she …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:14 AM
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At least you have listened to me with a somewhat open mind, which many people here haven’t done. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:47 AM
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Well, I think it’s unethical to use specimens without consent. There’s no way to know what the source for the illustrations was.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:47 AM
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It’s hard to let what go?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:46 AM
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I care because I am a man who has to live in a misandrist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:46 AM
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The problem is that the sequels had no artistic merit whatsoever. Even if they weren’t boring retreads, having Palpatine return cheapens Anakin’s sacrifice. Also, Anakin is the central figure of the saga, so having 3 films set after his death makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:45 AM
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Do you really not see the difference between a scholarly documentary on WWII and a sensationalized infotainment true crime show? True crime content often violates victims’ privacy. Autopsies are released, including personal information about nipple piercing and pubic grooming. Would you really be okay with the whole world knowing that about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:04 AM
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What do you mean that you were “born in it, raised in it”? I’m speaking based on my own experiences. I’ve observed more misandry than misogyny in the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:56 AM
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But why do many women want that? Being expected to keep the house clean and let him nut in you every day is way less demanding than having to support yourself financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:47 AM
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So if something happened to your relative or friend, and it was turned into sensationalized entertainment, you wouldn’t mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:36 AM
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Which makes it surprising the feminists didn’t like the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:32 AM
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The burden of proof in civil cases is much lower than in criminal cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:31 AM
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The UMC is one of the Christian denominations that isn’t super strict on the “no salvation outside of the church” doctrine, so your position makes more sense to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:31 AM
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The post has a lot of examples of female privilege. Don’t write the entire post off because you disagreed with one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:27 AM
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But radio stations are not allowed to play offensive content. I have a friend who used to have a radio show. He had to bleep out all offensive words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:08 AM
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It’s meant to be vulgar, but not necessarily offensive. When my girlfriend says “I want your cock in my pussy”, I’m not offended lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:07 AM
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Thanks for the info. Isn’t she a black woman herself? Why would she insult her own people like that? Isn’t she also the one who posted her vagina on X (then Twitter) in response to another user disagreeing with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:04 AM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1077801214551575
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:02 AM
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I don’t agree. I love to watch the immolation scene in ROTS, but I would be horrified if I saw someone self-immolating in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:50 AM
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But he is still innocent, since he has not been proven guilty in a criminal court.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:43 AM
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Interesting that you had no actual response to my comment. Perhaps because you recognize that I’m right in saying adopt, don’t shop?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:37 AM
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A huge amount of conversation is nonverbal though. I understand your reading of the lyrics, but I disagree. I don’t think her saying “no” is implied in the lyrics. Men’s boundaries are brushed off way more than women’s. It’s way more common for men to be felt up by random women in bars, at least in my experience. To be clear, I actually enjoyed it. I was fat for many years, so when I got in shape, I enjoyed being groped and objectified. But still, it doesn’t happen to women as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:35 AM
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No, I’m not. I’m being serious. Look through my post history for examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:21 AM
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I’m not talking about stuff like Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan. I’m talking about educational documentaries, the kind shown in classrooms. But when 46% of people watch it for entertainment and only 7% watch it to be prepared, it shows that watching it to be prepared isn’t a major factor. How would you feel if something happened to you and it was turned into entertainment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:16 AM
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Not necessarily. I’ve had women say that to me during foreplay. It doesn’t necessarily mean she is saying she doesn’t want it. He could just be reading her body language and she didn’t say anything verbally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:58 PM
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Why do you say Tate is profiting off of men’s suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:56 PM
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Well then, I guess my post could be the start to a new movement for men to get more respect in pop culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:54 PM
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We looked at drawings in a textbook, not real corpses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:53 PM
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What denomination are you part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:49 PM
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I’m not sure, but I was more talking about the feminists on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:46 PM
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Fair enough, but what do you make of the fact that in a 2014 study of 18,030 high school students, there was no statistically significant difference between males and females for the reported rate of having been physically forced to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:45 PM
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Because it’s just words, and they’re not even words that are demeaning. They’re just somewhat vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:44 PM
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I explained how in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:43 PM
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If society found both equally objectionable, I’d be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:43 PM
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They are both real, but misandry is way more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:41 PM
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There are lots of things I disagree with him on, but he speaks some truth, and I find him entertaining. I also am unwilling to criticize misogynist influencers as long as most women don’t criticize misandrist influencers/celebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:40 PM
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Thank you for explaining. How do you feel about my ethical criticisms of the genre?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:36 PM
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Well, no one had heard of Me Too until 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:32 PM
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Each person thinks their group’s position is the correct one. Don’t you think your church’s position is the correct one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:32 PM
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What radio stations are you listening to? What kinds of establishments are you going to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:31 PM
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Why does it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:26 PM
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I would assume, based on this, that you’re not a fan of his and don’t follow him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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Because it’s an unethical hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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Are you quoting song lyrics?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:23 PM
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So if even self-report surveys have underreporting, how can we know what the true rates are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:20 PM
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Would you say the same thing to a woman who felt demeaned by music?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:19 PM
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Would you say that a slut-shaming song isn’t misogynistic because it’s not speaking on all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:15 PM
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I looked at the website, and it just seemed very strange and exploitative to me. Nothing I have any interest in. Though, unlike with true crime, at least the people whose bodies are on display consented to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:14 PM
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Why is being upset by misogyny valid but not being upset by misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:02 PM
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Bleaching? I’ve known of non-porn women who did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:01 PM
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Why not just listen from unofficial sources if you like it? I don’t think he’s evil, just troubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:59 PM
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It will take some time, but I plan to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:58 PM
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I’m a man, of course I’m more bothered by prejudice against my own gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:58 PM
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I just googled the lyrics and didn’t see anything problematic with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:57 PM
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And women are punished less harshly than men, protected more than men, valued more than men, less empathetic than men, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:55 PM
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Did you not read the lyrics? Red Pill is about male self-improvement. It’s the reason I started working out, which improved my life tremendously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:55 PM
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I said I thought it was unethical. That does not mean I excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:53 PM
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Imagine telling a woman upset about misogynistic lyrics to toughen up and then linking her to another misogynistic song.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:53 PM
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What was unclear? Blurred Lines got a lot of backlash from feminists who thought it was misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:52 PM
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Because I was giving an example from my side of the same phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:51 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being pro-Trump. Ye’s Nazi music encapsulates his Nazism, his instability, and his social media rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:50 PM
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That’s interesting, because I’ve noticed that I am taken more seriously now that I am in shape than I was when I was fat. Is it different for women? Huge numbers of men are actually fine with relationships where women who aren’t actually into them put up with them for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:49 PM
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The vast majority of bears who encountered a human would rip said human to pieces, because that’s what bears do. Do you really think the vast majority of men who encountered a woman in the woods would do anything harmful to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:47 PM
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I’ve never heard any song on the radio that I would consider misogynistic. Hateful stuff doesn’t get radio play. I haven’t heard any of Ye’s recent Nazi music on the radio either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:44 PM
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You will notice that I said educational content about WWII, not sensationalized entertainment about it. If you empathized with the victims, you wouldn’t be turning their suffering into entertainment. How would you feel if something happened to a friend of yours and it was turned into voyeuristic, sensationalized edutainment? 46% of true crime watchers watch it for entertainment, whereas only 7% watch it to be more prepared, according to a link a true crime defender posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:42 PM
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Yes, I am saying that. Even if you disagree, surely you can at least agree that Manchild should have gotten the same amount of backlash as “you’re a good girl, I know you want it”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:37 PM
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Why do you like TC?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:36 PM
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Lennon respected women later in life. Hell, he let Yoko break the Beatles up. The fact that Ye’s name change isn’t an attempt to defy biology just gives me more of a motivation to respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:35 PM
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When men do it, they get backlash. See Blurred Lines for example…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:34 PM
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The Me Too Movement was in 2017, and was inspired by the Weinstein case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:33 PM
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Why would your friends stay with SOs who they don’t respect? Have you heard lots of your straight/bi male friends saying derogatory things about their GFs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:32 PM
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I am not spreading misinformation. Just because you disagree with me doesn’t make me a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:31 PM
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If women promote misandry, why should men care about misogyny? Misandry is just as dangerous. Did you hear about the Australian woman who immolated her male “friend” and is only going to spend 4.5 years behind bars for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:28 PM
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You’re making my point for me. Christians stand firm in their belief that they are correct, and that their religion is the ultimate truth for all mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:18 PM
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But why do you say that it’s not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:14 PM
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I’m not religious, I’m Irish Catholic as an ethnoreligious identity, but I’m not devout. It’s more a speck in my eye and a log in theirs, since misandry is more prevalent than misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:11 PM
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It’s their own fault for losing control of themselves. I haven’t cried in over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:06 PM
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Occam’s razor would say it’s because they haven’t had any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:06 PM
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That’s surprising. I haven’t since 2019
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:58 PM
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His fan base is a fraction of what it was. Where’s your evidence of his songs still having radio/club rotation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:51 PM
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R Kelly is a pariah. Some people might still stream his music privately, but he’s not on the radio, in ads, or in clubs anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:41 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:41 PM
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Why are you interested in something unethical that causes homeless dogs to lose their lives? Adopt don’t shop. If you were really a dog person, you would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:40 PM
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Valjean is the only example of that I know, hence why that’s the example I used.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:37 PM
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I don’t talk about bodily functions with my grandma or boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:37 PM
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No, their careers are not. R Kelly is in prison and will be for decades. Meanwhile, that Australian woman who immolated a male “friend” only has to spend 4.5 years in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:36 PM
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They could get some attention, but way less than other artists from their generation because their scandals ruined their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:30 PM
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Calling someone a profane insult is offensive. I don’t really see how saying “I gotta take a shit” is any more offensive than saying “I gotta take a dump”, though. I am a large man, myself. If I went up to a large man and called him a “pathetic and degenerate individual”, it would be no better than calling him a “bitch” or a “motherfucker”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:30 PM
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Including Weinstein on my list was an error. Even Cosby still has fans, but that doesn’t change that he’s a pariah, like Diddy, Kelly, and Ye. Even if Diddy is freed, he will never be able to get his career back. Same with R Kelly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:23 PM
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There’s no reason for those words to be treated as inappropriate. There’s nothing wrong with “shit”, other than some people decided it should be seen as taboo for no real reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:18 PM
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Lots of other people have been cancelled. R Kelly, Diddy, Ye, Papa John, Weinstein, etc… You wouldn’t be offended even though I’m a male saying the word “vulva”? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:17 PM
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How is hearing it bleeped out, where everyone knows the word that should be there, any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:10 PM
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Fair enough, I don’t consider the lyrics demeaning to women, though. I’m going to go listen to it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:05 PM
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They already know curse words. At least I learned them in grade school. I see no reason why it would be harmful for a child to hear a word like shit or fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:04 PM
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But society gives more weight to misogyny than misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:58 PM
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And no rational person would see “that math test raped me” as making fun of rape victims, either, but here we are. I make a point out of saying Ye and correcting people to point out the double standard around use of old names for people who changed theirs. I make a point out of saying X (instead of Twitter) as a subtle way of signaling my political views. It’s essentially a shibboleth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:58 PM
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Less of it, though. I also see that you are into dog breeding, which is unethical. Millions of homeless dogs lose their lives in shelters every year. Adopt, don’t shop. Rescue dogs deserve a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:52 PM
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I know it’s a fictional example, but it’s the only example of someone having their sentence increased that I know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:48 PM
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Do you remember those “Hillary sucks but not like Monica” shirts? They criticized only two individual women, but the feminists still called them sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:15 PM
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