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abuse of data
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:14 AM
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the question was not if mr beast is a mra but to be blunt we need a longer list of mens rights activism supporting various stuff like food banks or shelters etc you named 0 so far...
/r/MensRights13/04/25 10:01 AM
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what do you cite if you get asked how mras support men and boys? similiar thing as with ncfm, daniel penny, elvish summers, earl silverman and so on...
/r/MensRights13/04/25 09:34 AM
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joining an union or supporting a foodbank and similiar things are recommended!
/r/MensRights18/02/25 05:02 PM
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that would be a waste of time... you could investigate my post history... History of Women’s Participation in Clinical Research (nih.gov)
/r/MensRights18/10/24 12:22 PM
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some might be reasonable enough to rethink their actions and how to tackle the issues in society
/r/MensRights18/10/24 12:15 PM
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does it suprise you?
/r/MensRights18/10/24 12:14 PM
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im not american and i already said multiple times that left vs right in the us is a joke... in my country i have more option to vote and i did choose harris over trump to finally shut them up about stuff like there was never a female president and it would be superiour in all areas... lets be real both sides do not care and all the lip service arguments are naive...
/r/MensRights18/10/24 12:12 PM
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"... And if we don't want to separate people, we need to fight conservative family gender roles structures together, by separating people" fixed that for you by translating it from the feminist lens
/r/MensRights14/08/24 08:17 AM
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If feminists stopped pushing "Patriarchy" and accepted that its instead of an Oligarchy and started pushing to "Smash the Oligarchy" I'd support them 100% plutocracy?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 09:48 AM
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if you call yourself a mens rights activist... do you support a gender neutral draft/conscription or the abolition of it? do you support consent... to parenthood? "sex is not consent to parenthood for example" do you support social + health security provided by the state? do you support equality of opportunity? if you are not pls explain in detail how you can call yourself a mra and not something else... i know that there are more than 5 issues you should care about as mra... jfyi i volunteer in…
/r/MensRights12/08/24 07:42 AM
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the nurse salary report + A higher proportion of male nurses (8%) hold an APRN license than female nurses (5%). + 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed women. + Male nurses are more likely to work the night shift than female nurses Working hours and health in nurses of public hospitals according to gender - PMC (nih.gov) The sum of the professional working hours reported by the …
/r/MensRights28/07/24 06:08 AM
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the nurse salary report + A higher proportion of male nurses (8%) hold an APRN license than female nurses (5%). + 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed women. + Male nurses are more likely to work the night shift than female nurses Working hours and health in nurses of public hospitals according to gender - PMC (nih.gov) The sum of the professional working hours reported by the …
/r/MensRights28/07/24 06:04 AM
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The U.S. Dept. Of Health and Human Services has been tracking data on child abuse and neglect since 1978 with something called the National Incidence Study (NIS). Perhaps one of the most relevant and more surprising findings was this: 68% of the maltreated children were maltreated by a female, whereas 48% were maltreated by a male. (Some children were maltreated by both.) In 2021, about 210,746 children in the United States were abused by their mother, whereas 132,363 children were abused by the…
/r/MensRights13/07/24 07:03 AM
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Why don't healthcare providers agree to sterilise younger women? : r/AskFeminists EUROSTAT data disproves the narrative of lazy men and brave women suffering "second shifts"
/r/MensRights28/03/24 11:43 AM
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it says men work more hours and more likely the nightshift = we have to say men work too much hours under worse conditions instead of women get paid less... + A higher proportion of male nurses (8%) hold an APRN license than female nurses (5%). + 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed women.13 + Male nurses are more likely to work the night shift than female nurses full time and …
/r/MensRights25/03/24 06:11 PM
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evidence = nurse salary report
/r/MensRights25/03/24 02:08 PM
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askfeminists about legal consent raised to 25 years
/r/MensRights06/01/24 09:01 AM
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thx for your helpful input... i also never heard an actual man tell he is gonna r*pe or abuse or discriminate somebody...
/r/MensRights10/11/23 06:18 AM
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feminists vs sexist language in media or politics Why are contexts with men being put down for femininity considered "misogyny" but the inverse isn't "misandry"? : r/AskFeminists
/r/MensRights30/10/23 06:34 AM
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bluehorserunnings problem is just looking at one side of the coin, anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias
/r/MensRights23/10/23 05:18 AM
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facts about mens rights activism
/r/MensRights23/10/23 05:07 AM
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facts about mens rights activism
/r/MensRights23/10/23 05:07 AM
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facts about mens rights activism ​ feminism vs mens right activism
/r/MensRights23/10/23 05:05 AM
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who blamed women and how? most mras blame femnists and traditional conservatives for various things "specially alienating statistics or studies to push their agenda" but the main points are upbringing of children, parental surrender, relationship/marriage and consent as all problems emerge from those...
/r/MensRights28/09/23 08:47 AM
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so does welfare state with housing assistance, food stamps, free transport, various subsidies and free kindergarten for single moms, healthcare coverage and so on - at the expense of taxpayer. Start arresting these women and see if the problem goes away and then come back in here and say that we blame women over wrong reasons. this part is bullshit... you can complain about women getting more support and men getting scammed but we need said things for men "fathers" aswell... we can argue about h…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 06:27 AM
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how we as society tackle upbringing of children, relationships/marriage, parental surrender and consent prevents a gender neutral or egalitarian society... it is almost impossible to create a fair system regarding protection + competition and what we consider as fair or justice is not argeed on... that said how do you regulate a competence hierarchy if you have dealth with corruption and power abuse?
/r/MensRights14/09/23 04:22 AM
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What do you think about Katy Perry kissing the American Idol guy? "askfeminists" ​ If you're a feminist, you have to take the allegations against Katy Perry seriously ​ at least some recognize stuff like that is wrong... men have to speak up more else they think it never happens and men need to be informed about consent to be aware of the assault...
/r/MensRights11/09/23 02:09 PM
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Journalist grabs David Beckham's genitals without consent and publicly shames him.
/r/MensRights11/09/23 01:48 PM
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i see you have no time to respond to a real discussion but plenty of time to spread your conclusions and calling your one sided lecture a discussion... if you do not want to talk about solutions and continue to just blame the patriarchy you are the problem... abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... female dominated fields pay less & the pink tax
/r/MensRights05/09/23 11:15 AM
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Is there a way to try and force progress in this direction though? The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general idk about how feminist do it but i guess they would say the fight against terfs and traditionalism...
/r/MensRights03/09/23 10:49 AM
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i can give you simple examples all day from my country but we do not advance our cause of all humans deserve protection if we continue this... why does it even matter if all children need to be educated about consent or non toxic behavior and so on anyways? btw just a little advice if you fight for the rights of men or equality aswell pls stop to say stuff like "but women are more affected" as the retaliation will be "no men are affected more"
/r/MensRights03/09/23 10:02 AM
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I never said that boys don't get sexually abused, but it is statistically true that more girls are sexually abused/assaulted than boys. Which to me, is a privilege, isn't it? The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[10] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[11] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[10] (2010: 1.270 million)[11] women who reported being raped in the same time period. https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/…
/r/MensRights03/09/23 09:22 AM
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men are not attacked or killed for being men. this is the difference you are underestimating this extremly and what could be added on various topics... you can frame anything to support an agenda or simply overlook what actually is happening... to be blunt all humans deserve protection and i do not want to diminish the horrible things that are happening to women but pls try to do the same about men... lets talk about solutions instead of arguing about rethoric and semantics...
/r/MensRights03/09/23 08:43 AM
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before hiring you, no one will ask you if you plan to have children/start a family true even if it is illegal in most western countries but womens sexuality gets paternalized and put on a pedestal ​ you are far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than your female co-workers are disagree because this is about what we acknowledge as sexual harassment and most against men gets neglected ​ you can walk down the street safely without fear of being harassed or raped raped yes but harassed, a…
/r/MensRights02/09/23 08:17 PM
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feminist examples
/r/MensRights02/09/23 10:47 AM
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feminist examples
/r/MensRights02/09/23 10:35 AM
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feminists claim/argue her work is not problematic as you can see with the follwing quote so you say this sentence was too vague? i did not want to add the username for the quote because of the subs rules but i get that it could be confusing...
/r/MensRights01/09/23 06:33 AM
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no this is from an active member of askfeminists from this year after i confronted them with that topic... i just provide information how they tackle this that you are able to adjust to it...
/r/MensRights31/08/23 10:55 AM
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feminists claim/argue her work is not problematic as you can see with the follwing quote ​ Sure.... so the post completely misconstrues Mary P. Koss's work and motives. She is not a prominent feminist: the closest she has ever come to that is identifying as a "feminist-informed scientist" in a 2015 interview (now missing from the web, but whatever) The MRAs hate her because of a paper she wrote in 1993: https://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Koss-1993-Detecting-the-Scop…
/r/MensRights31/08/23 10:41 AM
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whatever you negotiate with your partner or the women you are dating
/r/MensRights30/08/23 01:30 PM
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Domestic Violence Funding Sources by State ​ HUD ANNOUNCES $2.8 BILLION IN ANNUAL FUNDING TO HELP PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ​ some communities spend money for good things... ​ Seattle's tiny home villages pose as a potential solution to Spokane's homeless crisis San Jose Opens Tiny-House Community to Shelter the Homeless Colorado group battles homelessness with "housing first" approach This Tiny Home Community Gives Homeless Veterans A Chance - Working To End Veteran Homelessnes ​ others …
/r/MensRights30/08/23 11:40 AM
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Slut shaming isn't why women don't approach. Your place as a man is to serve women, die for them, and never to expect any sex from them no matter how hard you work to please them. it is the upbringing of children "boys and girls" and how we tackle sexuality, relationships, parental surrender or consent... if you think gender roles are dead for women we can stop to talk about male disposability as it is just imagination...
/r/MensRights30/08/23 09:53 AM
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how about teaching girls/women to approach boys/men properly instead of waiting for her prince charming or that men are dangerous? if we as society call women sluts and shame them for their body count do you really think we are not to blame for supporting passive behavior? sometimes im somewhat ashamed about the comments and posts in this sub by redpillers + certain conservatives... ​ edit: you can downvote me over this but ask yourself how your advocacy of mens rights affects people in our soci…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 08:05 AM
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Google Finds It’s Underpaying Many Men as It Addresses Wage Equity ​ Young women are out-earning young men in several U.S. cities ​ the statement that women on average earn more is obviously false but the gap has almost nothing to do with discrimination and is more about hours worked total "fulltime does not equal to the same hours worked" as you can see if you read the actual studies like the nurse salary report... 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 201…
/r/MensRights29/08/23 02:29 PM
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The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?
/r/MensRights29/08/23 01:23 PM
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i can not find the post which explains why women are allowed to bash men but it is about women count as oppressed group/class or something like that and thats also why misandry is not taken seriously...
/r/MensRights29/08/23 10:42 AM
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you are aware that everything that does not support feminism gets censored or banned? does not matter if it is credible evidence or a source which refutes their claims and so on... that is also a feminist goal to push women into male dominated jobs by regulating speech and behaviors.... as you can see if you compare female vs male dominated subs...
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:37 AM
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well im pretty active here and im able to post in askfeminists and twoxchromosomes
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:27 AM
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why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? ​ feminists vs mra
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:26 AM
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feminists do not like funding topics "askfeminists" looks like they prefer to talk about... How do you deal with bias against women in healthcare? "askfeminists" equality... no we probably should call it equity from a radical feminists perspective equals to preferential treatment on all levels... They're not going to investigate things that are invisible to them. This is when you explain that we were ALL born into a patriarchal world where most countries, particularly the United States were buil…
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:11 AM
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i dare to ask if mras have a consensus or at least a majority stance on various topics like upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/divorce and consent? if you ask why such thing would be necessary -> our society is built on that which leads to male disposability = how we tackles this defines the advocacy of rights... ​ Read the manipulated man, it's a short read and is feminist literature! feminists tell their members to read invisible women for similiar reasons ​ What are you goin…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 09:35 AM
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each point depends on how you define it and the rethoric around it... ​ Patriarchy are traditional conservatives patriarchs? are autocracies like iran, afghanistan, saudi arabia, egypt etc patriarchal? equality worldwide i would say it is real but democratic societies are not patriarchal as relationships are consensual and everybody is able to do whatever they want... there are certainly issues as ive mentioned at the bottom but they get distorted by wild conclusions... people who believe in the…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 09:18 AM
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bashing + venting is put over advocating mens rights + calling out toxic behavior way too often sadly...
/r/MensRights25/08/23 02:06 PM
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well we could call out people like that more? the sad thing is if such a comment or post gets many upvotes instead... bashing and venting is put over advocating mens rights...
/r/MensRights25/08/23 02:04 PM
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That's just in the US. Many industrialised countries have equal gender drafting. Nations that in present-day actively draft women into military service are Bolivia, Chad, Eritrea, Israel, Mozambique, Norway, North Korea and Sweden.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 01:08 PM
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Anyone Else annoyed with how much empathy we have to extend to men? "askfeminists" However, instead of directing their efforts towards criticisms of and activism against capitalism, nationalism, patriarchy, and other oppressive systems that are the cause of those issues, they simply blame women and feminism for their problems. "quoted askfeminists mod" we probably should break their claims and assumptions down in parts... ​ social safety vs bureaucracy and financing problems "privat funding vs p…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 11:36 AM
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40 Basic Rights Women Did Not Have Until The 1970s if you talk about stuff like that add a source else it gets discarded as opinion or assumption... idk why you try to debate individual point of views if the solutions would be supported by a majority... the main conflict point here is rethoric and semantics but you would see that if your first comment would have been a neutral critique of our government or toxic behavior in general...
/r/MensRights25/08/23 11:20 AM
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Can you really say that Mary P Koss isn’t a feminist? She, or at least her work, is widely cited by feminist groups. actually feminists do not deny that she is a feminist but they claim her work is not problematic as you can see with the follwing quote... ​ Sure.... so the post completely misconstrues Mary P. Koss's work and motives. She is not a prominent feminist: the closest she has ever come to that is identifying as a "feminist-informed scientist" in a 2015 interview (now missing from the w…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:37 PM
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How is this even consent and why do we still have to register for the draft? ​ All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it. ​ Men as a whole are screwed over by the social security system ​ I'm a woman, and I'm angry. I'm coming to the source to ask for advice and insight.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 09:53 AM
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feminists have said a lot of insane shit in the past 100 years just like men have, you would have to be ignoring the modern movement to pretend this is what feminism is about true and i would give you the same advice for this sub = stop to engage in irrelevant personal point of views from some members "abortion or draft for example" and focus on solving the issues at hand
/r/MensRights24/08/23 07:19 AM
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I’m not looking to fight, just want your genuine opinions. inspect my profile and post history... The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? ​ abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... ​ that are just a few points...
/r/MensRights24/08/23 07:00 AM
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Are gendered chores misogynistic? "askfeminists"
/r/MensRights23/08/23 07:34 AM
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where was that same energy when Feminists we’re saying #killallmen or its All men until it’s no men? society labels women as vulnerable and men not = violence against men gets neglected as oppressors predators privileged are not discriminated as class
/r/MensRights23/08/23 07:19 AM
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Why is marriage still pushed to push economy and to create a safe environment for children to grow up
/r/MensRights23/08/23 07:13 AM
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Anyone Else annoyed with how much empathy we have to extend to men? "askfeminists" Mens Rights and Traditionalism "askfeminists" feminists about the duluth model tbh it is somewhat funny if you listen to them and look into the actual data about each point they raise... could we please start to forestall them at upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/divorce, consent and so on? all other problems we face are connected to that and they are still able to claim mras do nothing for mens…
/r/MensRights22/08/23 05:32 PM
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leader does not equal to patriarch... feminists rant about how society tackles family since the start of the industrial age and there they have a point... past that they have no clue about anthropology or economics and distort the topics...
/r/MensRights22/08/23 05:21 PM
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court case wnt
/r/MensRights21/08/23 12:46 PM
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i think we can not go back so we have to talk about our future and how to tackle various issues like upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/divorce, consent and so on...
/r/MensRights20/08/23 12:38 PM
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who do you blame for that? would say conservatives are to blame for male disposability...
/r/MensRights20/08/23 11:27 AM
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The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... ​ why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?
/r/MensRights20/08/23 11:13 AM
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probably because they will have no other choice if putin escalates further or if china invades taiwan... ideology vs realism at play...
/r/MensRights20/08/23 11:10 AM
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tbh our society sucks at tackling upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/divorce, consent and a few other things like understanding economics... im pro choice but roe v. wade overturning is not what we should talk about as each state could legalize abortion if a majority wants it... most states with abortion bans are extremly conservative = a majority wants it banned or restricted including women... you are aware that if the paternalism from conservatives would fade and we evolve t…
/r/MensRights20/08/23 11:03 AM
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tbh i would blame conservatives for male disposability in our society
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:15 AM
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guys wake up and think about the cause of male disposability for a second
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:11 AM
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We certainly lived in a patriarchy when Barbie was first introduced. 1960? we will never achieve equality till we are able to equalize pregnancy and its effects...
/r/MensRights18/08/23 11:05 AM
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my brain is too moosh to keep going indeed you have no intention to talk about causes and solutions
/r/MensRights18/08/23 11:03 AM
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it is somewhat funny that you could have made a decent point if you talked about paternalism based on religious believes... there was a good reason why the church and the state got seperated but we still see the consequences in various islamic countries today... conservatives stay behind as you can see with abortion for example... ​ your points however are ridiculous as others already pointed out...
/r/MensRights18/08/23 10:32 AM
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no... there are several issues who got distorted by misinformation and confirmation bias in our society... most feminists would probably say our society is patriarchal because of how we tackle upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/divorce and everything that is connected to that but they neglect how citizens should be protected regardless of gender and consequences of choices... you can not reason with radicals/extremists if your intention is to convert them... This is when you ex…
/r/MensRights18/08/23 08:49 AM
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most mras would probably say we live in a gynocentric society Gynocentrism is a dominant or exclusive focus on women in theory or practice. Anything can be gynocentric when it is considered exclusively with a female point of view in mind. the main issue is how we tackle upbringing of children, parental surrender and marriage/divorce in our society...
/r/MensRights18/08/23 08:37 AM
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you spread misinformation by distorting data if you include men who got forced to become a father in the first place but if you are all about statistics post them next to your claims... there is a reason why most disputes get settled outside of court and your examples are disengenious at best... tell us how society should tackle upbringing of children and parental surrender or marriage/divorce in your opinion... would bet you are enforcing patriarchy and toxic behavior yourself...
/r/MensRights18/08/23 05:09 AM
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feminist view does not matter if you are not allowed to comment directly to op if you are not a radical feminist... sources will be attacked/devalued as right wing propaganda or straight misogynistic -> shadowbanned
/r/MensRights18/08/23 04:45 AM
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everything that does not support feminism gets censored in feminists subs you should be aware about that... they do not argue or debate... there is just their law and their point of view...
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:53 PM
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what is your point posting in this sub? would claim you have no clue about that topic and that the majority of mras support parental surrender... i seriously doubt you are able to analyze statistics, studies, surveys and guess you get your infos from conclusions in articles...
/r/MensRights17/08/23 05:47 PM
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well i could list 20 points but why waste our time on that... how would you tackle upbringing of children and parental surrender or our justice system?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 05:39 PM
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Anyone Else annoyed with how much empathy we have to extend to men? "askfeminists" well it does not suprise me if people "here radical feminists" have no clue about the correct data and how to tackle various issues... educating people about consent and confirmation bias is crucial... that said mras will not get anywhere with the current direction of this sub and behaviors of a lot of members... ​ It's a no-brainer to have a safer future for both men and women, and to equally educate both but as …
/r/MensRights17/08/23 02:38 PM
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How Did Women Gain the Vote? 1756 - Lydia Chapin Taft votes in Uxbridge, Massachusetts.* 1800 - Twenty-nine women (of 217 voters) vote in a congressional election in Upper Penns Neck Township, Salem County, New Jersey. A total of at least 75 women vote in state or congressional elections in Upper Penns Neck from 1800 - 1806, some voting year after year. 1801 - A state election takes place in Montgomery Township, Somerset County, New Jersey. Of 343 total voters, at least 46 are women and at least…
/r/MensRights09/08/23 09:40 PM
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yea but it is also the headline of the post in that link
/r/MensRights08/08/23 11:15 AM
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the other downvoters probably did not read the content of the link but my intention was to add more sources to support what was posted above
/r/MensRights08/08/23 10:24 AM
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how would you tackle child support and parental surrender?
/r/MensRights08/08/23 08:17 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts...
/r/MensRights08/08/23 05:14 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... maybe talk about rape vs made to penetrate? Hermesmann v. Seyer (State of Kansas ex rel. Hermesmann v. Seyer, 847 P.2d 1273 (Kan. 1993))[1] was a precedent-setting Kansas, United States, case in which Colleen Hermesmann successfully argued that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act committed by the woman.[2][3] how we as society tackle consent and…
/r/MensRights06/08/23 08:25 AM
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the main reason for this is they think talking about that takes away from the issues women face... feminist and the media did a terrible job which leads to distorted conclusions/narratives... btw include sources if you talk about a topic like that -> look at my profile post hostory...
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:34 PM
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And you can never bring this up without being accused of being a misogynist or silencing women or trying to derail from the subject of MVAWAG. Yes because apparently it's misogynistic to point out a lot of violence and abusive women also exist just like such men and they also inflict violence against men and boys, and even other women and girls. the main reason for this is they think talking about that takes away from the issues women face... feminist and the media did a terrible job which leads…
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:31 PM
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There isn’t a specific demographic of women who date men making less than them. All depends on the woman’s priorities. agree on most you said in this conversation BUT what is the main reason that women stay at home to raise the children if they negotiate with their partner? probably the man earning more and has more ambition in the relationship else he could stay at home to raise the children or not?
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:23 PM
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Women are allowed to have sex with who they want to and any kind of sex they want and shouldn't be shamed for it. who exactly shames women? -extremly religious people "counts for men and women" -redpill idiots pushing their paternalistic agenda both of them are hypocrits most of the time... i think the real issue here is how society tackles pregnancy, upbringing of children, consent and parental surrender/abortion... ​ I literally saw an example of that on Facebook today of men thinking that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:33 AM
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The explosion of misogyny after the Depp/Heard case-- and the media's total refusal to convey basic facts-- absolutely indicates an issue to me. I'm specifically not commenting on the outcome or individuals in the case because another round of discourse on who did what to whom is too exhausting, but it cannot be ignored that the entire internet and beyond was gleefully and openly celebrating a case of abuse and mocking the victim for weeks. The way people had it out for Amber Heard was genuinely…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:02 AM
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ok make your point where this sub lacks in that area The Statistics on Fathers Winning Child Custody Aren’t Pretty. 30+ Divisive Child Custody Statistics What Representing Men in Divorce Taught Me About Fatherhood | Marilyn York | TEDxUniversityofNevada
/r/MensRights02/08/23 05:51 PM
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do you want to argue about individual peoples bad behavior or how to solve serious issues? pick a random topic and we can discuss about...
/r/MensRights02/08/23 05:03 PM
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who argued about that? personally i would start at reproductive rights and consent... family court is included in that later on...
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:53 PM
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Also I suspect a lot of people vote a certain way here, and the party I suspect gets most users votes here, has been the party making jobs less safe. tbh both parties suck, lie and circle around the problems... compare each state by who governed it and its problems... you want people to vote democrats but you do not show or explain which policies actually improve or deteriorate and their details... promises and results are not the same but we could discuss each point... Ben Shapiro vs. Ana Kaspa…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 10:48 AM
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Union framing of gender equality and the elusive potential of equality bargaining in a difficult climate Turning to the second research question on the effectiveness of gender equality frames, unions’ early attempts to address gender equality issues drew mainly upon a ‘women’s issues’ frame pursued largely through feminist activism in separate equality structures, including EOs. While this frame is credited with putting many issues of specific concern to women on the agenda, most EOs had experie…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 10:33 AM
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I will be honest. I have a problem with some peoples opinions on this, here in this sub. Almost everyone here quotes the numbers about men dying at work. But I rarely see people discuss ways we can actually work to reduce these numbers. Serious steps we can take to not only reduce overall fatalities, but also even the deaths among genders: - Demand safer working conditions. More safety equipment and procedures. More oversight. - Unionize. Help protect men working - Demand equal hiring practices …
/r/MensRights02/08/23 10:03 AM
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It actually is that simple, atleast the ideas. Putting it into practice would be hard. But if a subreddit dedicated to mens rights is not even talking about it or organizing, what hope do we have on the issue. The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ I wonder how many people in here vote for politicans who advocate for making jobs more dangerous. the political stage is a little bi…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 09:34 AM
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I posted because this subreddit gives god awful advice to young people. I find most of it to be unreasonable and I really don’t think that this place is very good. The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general
/r/MensRights02/08/23 09:26 AM
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ok fine then we do not live in a patriarchy who oppresses women as we are equal by consitution... now lets focus on real issues people face and how to solve them...
/r/MensRights02/08/23 09:24 AM
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what about the average hours worked men and women? what about the average health men and women? what about the average deaths men and women? men risk everything to gain status or just to survive... your point would make more sense if you would argue about static gender roles and consent to certain work or what influences our choices...
/r/MensRights02/08/23 07:30 AM
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foolio does not care about correct data or facts and civil conversation... check his post/comment history...
/r/MensRights02/08/23 07:24 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ Significantly more likley to become a lawyer, judge, politican, CEO, Billionaire, Millionaire do you want to force women to do something they do not want to do? The most common occupations in Sweden by gender if you talk about upbringing of children or companies save money at the…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 07:11 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts... ​ The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general ​ pls stop to mix various issues and then we can tackle each point that bothers you... who said rape, violence and consent are no serious problems? who said discrimination is no serious problem? how does telling random men they are privileged or oppressors help women?
/r/MensRights02/08/23 06:46 AM
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why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?
/r/MensRights31/07/23 02:22 PM
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the list lacks evidence for support of homeless/violence shelters, stance on non voluntary military service, accurate data about the history of voting rights specially the first women who voted, stance on abortion and parental surrender and so on... if you create such a site you should also add evidence of mra activism that disproves the claims of mras do nothing for equality and uncover the lies about the movement...
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:35 PM
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it is all about how people define it and the rethoric around it... similiar to rape vs made to penetrate... many articles and feminists distort the topics with their conclusions of statistics, studies and surveys...
/r/MensRights30/07/23 06:58 AM
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Women voted in Revolutionary America, over a hundred years before the 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution guaranteed that right to women nationally in 1920.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 06:33 AM
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What is the discourse about "fallen" feminists - Erin Pizzey, Camille Paglia, Joyce Benenson, Louise Perry in gender studies academia? "askfeminists" ​ What's the deal with Erin Pizzey? "askfeminists"
/r/MensRights30/07/23 04:53 AM
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maybe explain why misandry or violation of consent is such a problem? it is all about how people define it... similiar to rape vs made to penetrate... add sources of for example mras supporting shelters else all this just gets labeled as anti women and mras do nothing to support men...
/r/MensRights28/07/23 11:06 AM
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What else does a kid need other than free education, healthcare, and sure 2-3 meals a day and a roof over its head. do you have kids and do they run around naked? well at least you admitted a few point... ​ Anything else is not my problem. it will be your problem if there are not enough workers or if the crime rates go through the roof... why do you think the government subsidizes "your tax money" marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:30 PM
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How i what i said against welfare. Bet you believe printing money fixes everything, too. Why would anyone pay more taxes for anyth extra is beyond me. It's not my job to provide for someone elses family. quoted you ​ i give you an opportunity to explain yourself but i doubt you understand the correalation here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:51 PM
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but women are almost always expected to be the ones to put their work on the back burner to support the man and take care of the family by who? would claim that there are a ton of guys ready to become stay at home dads "earning less than the women" and organizing the hosehold... if my ambitions and earnings as man are higher than hers obviously she stays at home... ​ Which explains the wage gap OP is complaining about. Point is if a man wants 50/50 financially, he has to give 50/50 at home. funn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:29 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/156yz70/comment/jt3s1hn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:16 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/156yz70/comment/jt3s1hn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:16 AM
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Overall, our study indicates that especially after selection and relationship satisfaction are taken into account, differences between marriage and cohabitation disappear in all countries. Marriage does not lead to higher subjective well-being; instead, cohabitation is a symptom of economic and emotional strain. Mind the “Happiness” Gap: The Relationship Between Cohabitation, Marriage, and Subjective Well-being in the United Kingdom, Australia, Germany, and Norway - PMC (nih.gov) Loneliness, dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:10 AM
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What do you mean? Children who get abandoned by both parents? yes and whoever violated consent regarding becoming a parent should lose custody Also I don’t think casually including abortion to this discussion is really appropriate or necessary as it’s a discussion about child support. oh but people here said child support by individuals is an incentive to prevent pregnancy ok nvm... well my point was if children get abandoned or neglected the government pays for them anyways "foster care/orphana…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 09:46 AM
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well if they can afford a nanny 24/7 both can invest the same time raising their children but most people do not have that luxury... that said why should we marry if we can also stay in a long lasting relationship that avoids government interference? i think people are not honest and sincere about this topic as we can see in the comments in this post...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:47 AM
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what happens or should happen with children wo got abandoned in your opinion? (including abortion)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:18 AM
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so you are against welfare generally? well then the costs increases elsewhere like fighting crime rates and later on probably war aswell...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:16 AM
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askfeminists about systemic issues ​ Why is misandry so common with a lot of "feminists"?
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:48 PM
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at the front - war backstage
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:36 AM
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soldier graveyard charkiw
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:21 AM
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Over 90% of workplace deaths in the US are men. You’re okay with the stat staying this way; you just want men to die a little less. Again, feminists only want equality when it benefits them. yes i know and we have to reduce that number to a minimum... advocating equal death is a bad position but i could agree on equal responsibility/accountability... see my last point... ​ The only time feminists care about the draft is when the prospect of women serving comes up. you are aware that tradcons adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:51 PM
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agree well then we would not need it written down but i know what you wanted to say with that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:05 AM
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are you serious? we should campaign to prevent any death at the workplace by decent workingconditions... we should campaign for terminating selective service... we should campaign for social security for everybody... do not get pulled down by radicals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:41 AM
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hm maybe we should stop to teach our children static gender roles? radical feminists are also a minority... i think a lot of people do not understand the concept of equality of opportunity... probably because of distorted data from articles or anecdotal evidence...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:36 AM
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probably any study about hormones but i do not see why we are talking about this nonsense ​ op is obviously delusional but i would agree that men are stronger and before civilisation it made sense to look for a provider and protector
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:31 AM
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Men commit 96% of violent crime. oh and why is that in your opinion? Men and women are equal and you are delusional. they are by constitution in all democratic countries
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:24 AM
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would agree with you BUT look at china how communism/socialism would evolve... corrupt and power abusing people destroy ANY system... pls stop with communism would work if done right as the same would be true about capitalism in a social economy... we need a solid base for the political stage and after that the economic system does not matter that much anymore... Marxism: Zizek/Peterson: Official Video The PCR is not capitalist oh and regarding immoral negotiations with dictatorships what would …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:09 AM
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Women have the option to literally have sex (which they consider hard labor, but i doubt its the same as being a man in a coal mine) and then live a life of luxury. tbh it is kinda sad how our society looks at labour... that said where in the us is prostitution legal? just nevada... if you are trafficked there is no life in luxury after you gathered enough money but i guess we should exclude human rights violations... the proper comparison for sex work is selective service... ​ And enslaving wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:59 AM
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"Oh that girl is such a pickme" talking about pearl davis? if it is a random girl behaving a certain way id say yea that sucks similiar to putting others down... "There's nothing wrong with a girl that just wants to party all the time let her do what makes her happy" if you are conservative/traditional and no hypocrit about it id say i have my boundaries and if she does not respect that she should look for a non tradcon... if you want to be more cheeky id say ok fine then i go to strip clubs and…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 03:59 AM
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So when I'm speaking to a woman (platonic or not) and she behaves in a way that proves my point how do I keep these ideas and feelings buried deep within myself even though everything inside of me wants to "rub the dog's nose" in the pee stain on the carpet? depends on the situation... platonic i would use sarcasm... non platonic i would just dump her at the spot...
/r/MensRights14/07/23 02:29 PM
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whats the solution for this problem? in my opinion we have to push for social security for all people in need... probably pressure politicians to do their job properly as a starting point and help people in your community... Ana vs Ben Shapiro: Would Single Payer Healthcare Work In America?
/r/MensRights14/07/23 08:42 AM
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Spin The Wheel of Power & Privilege [Marginalization & Intersectionality] they feel like by talking about male issues we deny or belittle issues women face ​ something like how can you talk about legal rights if women do not have bodily autonomy and such stuff...
/r/MensRights14/07/23 06:36 AM
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How can you say that men are privileged, when they face much more systemic oppression? "askfeminists" How to respond to men who talk about misandry? "askfeminists" ​ personally i would ask them how to build a society from scratch as this would reveal how much thought they did put into this and specially regarding funding
/r/MensRights14/07/23 06:27 AM
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maybe read the entire conversation as we continued with a minimalistic lifestyle and poverty level calculations after that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:12 PM
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well im not interrogating you im just asking because for example if there is one women to testify against him people could still just say she lies or the romanian justice system is corrupt etc...
/r/MensRights13/07/23 12:58 PM
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i get your point... if you buy mostly second hand and to buy the cheapest food you can get... if you want to make this point plausible calculate how much life would cost today if you are minimalistic... ​ My income fluctuates. I've lived intentionally under the poverty line (Less than $11,770/yr) for the past 5 years. Besides some odd jobs here and there I didn't work last year and lived off savings. Luxuries: Washer/dryer, high speed internet, gaming laptop, acoustic guitar, and fully paid off …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:36 PM
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I mean if you were a woman why would you submit to a man who can't even provide a home for you (ie most men)? If she loses her job she can't even rely on most average men to step up and provide. Women don't feel safe in this system, hence they look at the men and subconsciously say "why are the men allowing this?" this all just matters if a couple has children... if both work it really does not matter who makes more if their lifestyles are about the same... if we stop to condition people into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:32 PM
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the insane numbers of criminals, homeless and suicide may have a word...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:26 PM
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Unpopular opinion, but I think you could still lead a pretty similiar lifestyle on a lot of todays salaries (with one salary alone). average salary usa the median salary in the us is about 56k a year VS Exploring the average cost of living in the US: A comprehensive overview (edvoy.com) The average cost of living in the United States is estimated to be between $2,500 and $3,500 per month, depending on your location and lifestyle. This includes housing, food, transportation, health care, taxes, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:16 PM
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thats why i ask you at which point would you call him a criminal? what evidence would convince you that he is a criminal and did what he is charged for? im not arguing about he should be locked up without any evidence like many media or feminist subs... however i disagree with his overall message and i watched his videos from start to end because there is more to them than self improvement... sure listen to him if he talks about training but relationship advice? certainly not... ben shaprio abou…
/r/MensRights13/07/23 10:57 AM
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Criminal Lawyer Legally Analyzes ANDREW TATE'S OWN INCRIMINATING WORDS About His Business
/r/MensRights13/07/23 07:07 AM

specific roles like men have to provide and protect and women have to nurture? obviously im against static gender roles but if the women provide and the men nurture we just remove the static part to be able to switch if needed or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:34 PM
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why do we gender toxic behavior if any trait can be toxic? just teach people to be decent to eachother... that said people disagree on how upbringing of children should look like specially if we talk about family values and sexuality... protecting women for example can be seen as toxic or healthy depending on how it is tackled...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:30 PM

so your definition of patriarchy is rule of the powerful/survival of the fittest? like competition in our economy dominated by narcissistic people... btw why do we have to gender toxic behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:22 PM
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male disposability is based on paternalism of womens sexuality as it is put on a pedestal... we should get rid of all that to create a gender neutral society... ​ regarding pointless gendered victim comparisons... Understanding Violence Against Men Only recently have some other forms of sexual violence against men been considered. In the 2010–2012 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (and a prior edition of this study completed in 2010), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) meas…
/r/MensRights10/07/23 03:55 PM

if you stay single without children for sure but if you want a family not so much...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:07 AM

mostly agree ​ you can ask several red guys what hypergamy is or what AWALT means and chances are high, you'll get pretty different explanations from all of them. oh well you also get something similiar if you ask feminists about patriarchy, rape culture, toxic masculinity, mansplaining, equality vs equity and so on... idk why we gender that stuff at all if the goal is social security and to remove as many barriers as possible for everybody...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:31 PM

im sorry you do not understand my arguments therefore you also do not see the others
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:06 PM

i think your statement is silly and you put womens sexuality on a pedestal... personally i would compare prostitution with selective service... if you really want to have a serious conversation about the longterm effects take a look at europe and countries with somewhat legal but regulated prostitution... maybe the effects of the nordic model aswell...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:47 PM

if you take a look at countries with somewhat legal prostitution in europe this argument has no foundation... where is the consent for work you have to do to survive? "for example selective service" the stigma of sex work is such an annoying thing in our society...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:19 PM

seriously why should anyone else pay taxes for their job if they did not consent but need the money to survive? the social stigma is such an annoying thing for sex work...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:08 PM

ok read what you did write slowly and think about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:40 PM

if the us gets attacked by china "probably starting with taiwan" you will see why selective service is a proper fit for a comparison with prostitution but it is sad that the many wars of the us seem to be forgotten... you can see it currently with ukraine vs russia how young men die in war without their consent... how is any work "specially dangerous jobs" done with consent if you have to do it to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:30 PM

your comparison is off and a better fit would be selective service... ​ 1.you put womens sexuality on a pedestal "each human deserves protection" 2.human trafficking is illegal and against human rights "who should stop the criminals and how?" 3.how is it consent to sell your body if you do it to survive in any job? "for example selective service" 4.family/relationship values, upbringing of children/custody and parental surrender are a hot mess 5.then take a look at the scandinavian countries and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:25 PM

well we can talk about both at the same time as they are connected but for the sake of the argument lets talk about the legal system ok? 1.you put womens sexuality on a pedestal "each human deserves protection" 2.human trafficking is illegal and against human rights "who should stop the criminals and how?" 3.how is it consent to sell your body if you do it to survive in any job? "for example selective service" 4.family/relationship values, upbringing of children/custody and parental surrender ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:57 AM

na if i break it down people will get the wrong idea and argue about semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:14 AM

we could say the same about "slave work" for example in preparation of the fifa world cup in qatar... foreign workers died under horrible conditions... what about selective service?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:08 AM

well you could say the same thing about "slave work" for example in preparation of the fifa world cup in qatar... foreign workers died under horrible conditions... oh and what about selective service? that said if we introduce something like an ubi we create various other problems... how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:05 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:02 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:01 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:00 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:00 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:59 AM

could you compare it to lets say the "slave work" in qatar in preparation of the fifa world cup to build the stadiums which took many lifes under horrible conditions for foreign workers? what about selective service? how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:56 AM

how should the justice system look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:53 AM
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twoX about healthcare gap askfeminists about healthcare gap after reading some of this i have to ask why are some doctors acting like that "if the claims are true" and why the researchers of medicine do not use women as testsubjects no matter the results to shut this argument down? feminists demand the meatgrinder so give it to them and add the explanation of the results next to it... is there a healthcare gap? Gender bias in research: how does it affect evidence based medicine? Taking on Gender…
/r/MensRights08/07/23 01:57 PM
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do you think women face paternalism because their worth is estimated as low? are we talking about individual relationships or on a society level and how do you measure equality for example in the workforce or healthcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:29 PM
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if you listen to people talking about equity and equality im not so sure if they are able to differentiate it or if they push a certain dubious agenda... that said how do you measure equality or fairness at a society level if our struggles and starting points are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:23 PM
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we suck at understanding and acting on consent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:02 AM
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If you want to stop teaching our girls and boys "static gender roles" call out the contradictions most progressives make. ofcourse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:32 PM
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if anybody wonders about the difference between redpill and conservatism... Here Is What I Actually Think Of Andrew Tate " Ben Shapiro" "He's Misleading Men!"Jordan Peterson Blasts Andrew Tate in New Video
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:17 PM
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maybe be loyal to one woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:39 PM
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probably the whole it is ok when men cheat/sleep around but a deadly sin if women do it for example... both can lead to pregnancy... you can search it up on youtube pearl, f&f, andrew tate, rollo and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:31 PM
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most redpill dudes are not conservative they are playboys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:15 PM
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most redpill dudes are not conservative they are playboys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:14 PM
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To most women, a "real man" is a man who is willing to provide for them, cater to them and take on their responsibilities, and men have been conditioned to find purpose and meaning in this exploitation. conservative women and women who got influenced by conservative values maybe... how about we stop to teach our girls and boys this crap "static gender roles" and show them how a team works?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:46 AM
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there is no need for feminist scholars as any normal person with a decent intelligence can tell that tate or f&f give terrible advice hidden behind a personal improvement masquerade
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:10 AM
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obviously both are responsible for a pregnancy and for the upbringing of the child aswell... parental surrender should be available for both aswell but this creates various problems... maternity protection just applies to women which was my point... i do not care what radical feminists say as i ignore extremists but i do care about equality of opportunity and removing barriers for everybody regardless of gender
/r/MensRights02/07/23 09:47 AM
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idk about causes as i do not know the statistics but apart from that i agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:45 AM
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in my opinion women can walk around naked and it should not be a bigger problem than men walking around naked
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:05 AM
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we are not talking about the same thing "pregnancy" here... do you think maternity protection while she is pregnant is a bad thing? obviously past pregnancy everything should be equal in our society but upbringing of children is still a major problem...
/r/MensRights02/07/23 06:59 AM
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no we should talk with each other in a civil way and respect individual people no matter their gender
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:57 AM
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are we talking about the same thing? maternity protection while she is pregnant just applies to women... if we talk about custody ofcourse it should be equal aswell as parental surrender but upbringing of children is still a major problem...
/r/MensRights02/07/23 06:55 AM
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"consent" is the magical word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:25 PM
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i guess his point is if somebody would sexually assault/harass her he would have the duty to protect her which puts him in danger in various ways and to avoid this situation he should have a say... obviously past suggesting/opinion is paternalism and a no go...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:45 PM
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i guess his point is if somebody would sexually assault/harass her he would have the duty to protect her which puts him in danger in various ways and to avoid this situation he should have a say... obviously past suggesting/opinion is paternalism and a no go...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:42 PM
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How can you just say nothing when ur supposed to be in a protective role over her? paternalism "without consent" of adults is against human rights
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:33 PM
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well the topic becomes a little bit difficult if we talk about sexuality and general choices people make in their life... for example just women can become pregnant so we have to hold them to another standard in some areas or not?
/r/MensRights01/07/23 06:18 PM
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there is no serious way to justify it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:17 PM
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how about accepted male only spaces who not get attacked to open their doors for everybody similiar to female only spaces? why do we argue about this and its semantics or do you want us to go to turkish teahouses if we are not turkish or religious?
/r/MensRights30/06/23 10:26 AM
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do you think we should have mixed teams and abolish a seperation by gender in sport? could imagine what would happen then but i would appreciate if you provide a source1 and source2 on the claim women are not allowed in a sport... btw if we go down that route there are also a lot of jobs that are male dominated but how is that comparable to a male only space where women are not allowed? your examples of male only space are all about religion and even those spaces get attacked to open their doors…
/r/MensRights30/06/23 09:36 AM
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there is nothing toxic about healthy masculinity or femininity... people are toxic no matter their gender and this topic derails as soon as we talk about should women be specially protected "which includes the 9 month of pregnancy" compared to men and at what point it would become paternalism... any trait could become toxic if the dosis is too much... personally i would say we should talk about healthy behavior and how healthy upbringing of children should look like
/r/MensRights28/06/23 02:57 PM
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oh it could be worse than... I'm saying.. An exmaple: if a women has an OF account. They shouldn't be shocked that people only see them in a sexual light. The same as if a man offers over his wallet to a women, he shouldn't be surprised he is viewed as a bank account If you don't want to be taken advantage of, you sometimes need to look at how your actions are perceived So to answer your question. Yes. I would say the same about casual sex OR I'm anti draft. Neither men or women should do it. Bu…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 09:31 AM
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destiny on anti vs pro feminists on vice there is a background issue you can assign to each of those points but they get distorted extremly and i disagree on most terms and how they are used
/r/MensRights27/06/23 08:20 PM
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Stupid and wrong stuff like this is a large part of her history. AND i said it is fine to point that out and downvote it Her accumulated karma is an indication of how little so many of us think of her comments on a consistent basis. which is fine if you state it this way
/r/MensRights27/06/23 01:52 PM
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tbh in most rants or vents i see online the details of the situation or story at hand are lackluster and this twoX post "my misandry is not unfounded" is no exception... what would you suggest to happen in/with rape, sexual assault, harassment and domestic violence investigations? if there is a crime we condemn it and it should be punished BUT if the supposed victim lies about it what would you suggest to happen? ​ Why would this random girl lie on Reddit? idk maybe to justify her actions and to…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 01:33 PM
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i did say nothing about in group bias... all im talking about is she does get downvotes because of several reasons that has not to be disproven... you may label it a stupid comment and downvote it but do not spread false information... there is no need to list the entire thread as any member can click on show entire thread... So why do we treat you differently to her? want to see which posts of mine got 50-100 downvotes in this sub? the thing is im a pragmatic realist and people understand it mo…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 12:53 PM
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You consistently get downvoted here because you are consistently posting easily disproven bullshit. downvote evidence downvote evidence 2 downvote evidence 3 this has nothing to do with disproving something... she does get downvoted because of her cheeky and sometimes rash comments even if she is factually right... apart from that men and women talk past eachother often specially if the topics get really spicy which is silly if the solution does benefit both...
/r/MensRights27/06/23 11:38 AM
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honest open conversation on various topics and avoiding rash conclusions ​ your navy example about rape should achieve what exactly? as far as i know most sane people condemn rape and think it should be punished hard... ​ if we talk about a topic we have to take into account all aspects to understand the cause and to find the adequat solution...
/r/MensRights27/06/23 11:29 AM
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that was not just about this post but all your comments in this sub "specially the comments with 50-100 downvotes" and do not get me wrong i appreciate your contribution here
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:13 PM
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you are experiencing it currently with all the comments about your account because of cheeky statements or calling out people ​ seems like men and women perceive equality and honest open discussions in a different way or our rethoric leads to talking past each other
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:06 PM
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agreed
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:03 PM
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uff would you say the same thing about hypergamy and casual sex? your second sentence could be misunderstood easily...
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:00 PM
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hu? nobody hindered women to post here but a lot of them choose not to because of various reasons...
/r/MensRights26/06/23 12:28 PM
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great! ​ btw i did edit a lot because my grammer and sentence construction was terrible but that was not in bad faith or to alter the basis of my statements
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:52 AM
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if you ask me to call out other men for their toxic behavior ofcourse i would but i would ask you to do the same by calling out women for toxic behavior aswell... tbh i do not think punishment will solve this issue it would increase it even more behind the curtain but education, proper upbringing of children and social safety would reduce it to a minimum... therefore women are also part of it to pressure politicians to do their job properly and not voting incompetent people into positions of pow…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:29 AM
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no i asked you what to do about it regardless of gender but it is telling that you assume this
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:15 AM
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how dare you tell me to not worry about my safety if you know nothing about me and my story... see what i did there?
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:11 AM
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everybody gets hurt if narratives like rape culture etc get created
/r/MensRights26/06/23 05:58 AM
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so we should be scared no matter your gender instead of working on a solution to solve this issue? if the media does not report about men getting attacked and victims probably can not tell their stories anymore you have your bias/distortion...
/r/MensRights26/06/23 05:57 AM
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Men talk about how women are not as logical but doesn't it make logical sense to be cautious of strange men when these things have happened to you? to be cautious about strangers is normal but the issue is why there are that many dangerous people out there and how the media distorts data... how many reports/stories about attacked or harassed men did you notice in your life till this point? do you think men are not cautious or scared if they walk through a dangerous neighborhood/block if statisti…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 05:43 AM
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how should a rape or custody law etc look like if not gender neutral? agree but i would say a similiar thing about feminists... real feminists do not argue against fair human rights... that said i know how terrible radicals/extremists are with their narratives... do you want to argue or discuss about why women have to be protected if they are pregnant or about the unequal approach before + past pregnancy? if the child is born mother and father should have the same rights IF they both want the be…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 05:33 AM
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before anything productive can happen we have to pressure our politicians and probably have to reform the political landscape... realisticly a reform is pretty unlikely to happen so lets focus on pressure politicians to do their job properly... social safety nets for anybody in need would fix a lot of problems BUT creates a new set of problems like bureaucracy and a few others as you can see with countries in europe using social safety nets social safety statistics if we as society get rid of st…
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:20 PM
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may i ask how you would tackle the issues of our society regarding gender and sex? specially pregnancy and upbringing of children which are the main reasons for an imbalance... would go even further and claim conscription/draft, crime rates, homelessness, suicide rates etc are connected to gender roles and social safety... at which point would you say feminists talk about mens issues properly or is this all about them claiming they are advocating equality instead of pushing womens interests?
/r/MensRights25/06/23 05:57 PM
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well we could talk about the draft/conscription is part of gender roles... we could also say becoming a stay at home dad with the women as the provider is breaking static gender roles but there will always be roles...
/r/MensRights25/06/23 05:51 PM
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if you grew up with decent parents and a sister "or brother if you are female" chances are pretty high that your viewpoint becomes more understanding of the problems the other sex has... at least it was for me that way... so my answer to this is poor communication, misinformation and terrible upbringing/education of children...
/r/MensRights24/06/23 04:00 PM
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thats why it is helpful if mother + father tell their children how the world works and it is even better if the family has daughter and son
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:53 PM
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if parents have a daughter and son certainly if they are decent with upbringing + interaction between brother and sister or mother and father
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:49 PM
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you might have misunderstood as i had to adjust the post... i support your stance of calling out certain people on several topics and gave you a source you can show them...
/r/MensRights24/06/23 11:15 AM
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mra stance on the draft/conscription
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:10 AM
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People do talk about the wage gap... and fair enough how would you fix the wage gap? i would ask you to take a look at luxembourg and their policies as they have a gap of under 1%...
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:52 AM
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I don't actually think feminism is the "issue" anymore. It's wokeism. Pushing against that, go ahead. But feminism.. its the same as when a woman talks badly against mra, it comes acorss as against men, whether true or not... being anti feminism, is seen as anti woman how about we criticise or advocate points and conclusions no matter your gender or movement as neutral? the problem is in reality you are not able to do that because of various reasons... one example would be toxic masculinity vs t…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:40 AM
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nurse salary research report 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed women. Male nurses are more likely to work the night shift than female nurses. just to drop some facts about the claim female nurses would earn less than male nurses for the same work... it is similiar in almost each field you could imagine that men work more hours = earn more money but if there is real discrimin…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:31 PM
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ok we agree on this point then for everybody in need ofcourse and it becomes federal if we talk about funding ok how do you want to end the oppression of men tell me several actions to end it... which are not connected to how we as society tackle female sexuality/pregnancy and upbringing of children as i claimed is the cause for this...
/r/MensRights22/06/23 01:04 PM
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calm down dude i did not say you do all that "but some conservatives do" or do you treat women with unkown bodycount as sluts and tell stranger women how their sex life should look like? ok fine... does it matter if woman or men stay at home depending who earns more? im asking this because it is directly connected to homelessness, crime rates and suicide rates which are mra talking points my point is we talk past each other here and waste time we could invest in something useful to improve our s…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 12:35 PM
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Because most women aren't attracted to most men. Male and female attraction is insanely different Men = looks Women = everything except looks i guess the difference is women can become pregnant and have to keep that in mind constantly if they pick a man for whatever... if we talk about a relationship this shifts extremly and i would say men become way more picky than women...
/r/MensRights22/06/23 07:10 AM
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are not most democratic parliaments like that wasting our money or putting it into their own pockets? ok maybe not that extreme but still...
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:29 AM
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united nations was a nice thought but in reality it does not look so bright sadly... tbh i think aslong as western countries handicap themselves on the political stage we achieve nothing...
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:15 AM
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What point is being made? victim olympics does not help anybody... how do you want to end the oppression of men you are talking about?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:00 AM
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Exactly.. no one likes being "approached" by a stranger. Whether it online or irl. i understand why to be cautious but how do you get to know new people if you never approach somebody? idk i see that as a serious problem in our society with commonality...
/r/MensRights22/06/23 05:57 AM
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agree we have issues in our society no matter your gender and our goal should be to remove barriers for everybody... may i ask what you think about patronizing/protecting women who shouted they want sharia law in said countries like afghanistan etc? should we police the world or show them how far we can go based on equality?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 05:50 AM
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patronizing womens sexuality is not the same standard or accountability but conservatives do it past their relationship and the consent of their wifes... if women gain special protection compared to men "past the 9 month of pregnancy exception" it is at the cost of true equality of opportunity... both men and women have issues in our society we have to solve and lets start with a few questions if you can answer them... how would you tackle pregnancy and upbringing of children in our society? wha…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 05:42 AM
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male dominance is 100% projection if there is paternalism or beneloved sexism specially if we talk about womens sexuality, pregnancy and upbringing of children is a bold statement... why are so many people against letting them choose if they want to be patronized and become a sahm or not? if women choose to fight at the front in a war or get crushed on duty as police officer let them have it... if women choose a low paid job or just working part time they also have to accept that they will earn …
/r/MensRights20/06/23 08:44 AM
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she is banned in the feminist sub for acting against toxic behavior so i would say there is no double standard
/r/MensRights20/06/23 08:37 AM
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well something similiar happens if you call out people in this sub who are not able to diffferentiate between critique and toxic behavior sadly...
/r/MensRights20/06/23 08:30 AM
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you know what i agree with you! why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?
/r/MensRights20/06/23 08:26 AM
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would agree with you here... that said you ignore how women violate consent or laws... if you think vigilantism, privacy abuse, deception is ok why do we not abolish the police + justice system completly? if you think gossip and defamation is not toxic i really wonder how you want to explain men or boys how their behavior in certain scenarios is toxic... oh wait i forgot under patriarchy every choice is coercion and accountability is a fairy tale... therefore 50% of all voters "women" are not to…
/r/MensRights20/06/23 04:56 AM
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oh i think you do not want to talk openly + honestly about reproductive rights, selective service system, violence + crimes in general, exploitation, funding "private vs public", social safety and equality of opportunity in education + the workforce... you are here in bad faith and you ignore evidence so why should we provide anything you are asking us if we already know your hostile ignorant answer?
/r/MensRights20/06/23 04:23 AM
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it is a waste of time to present her a credible source as she does not look into the details anyways even if she provided the source herself... that said conscription would be a law that violates male bodies... everybody she asked about abortion said to her we support pro choice and she still rampages...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 01:36 PM
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if you read the report you also notice that men work more hours "roughly 90% men fulltime vs 80% women fulltime" and she still screams misogyny if you point that and the math around it out as explanation for a pay gap...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 12:55 PM
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abortion should be legal and parental surrender no matter your gender aswell... that said we have to talk about coerced abortion, adoption/upbringing of children and consent generally aswell... ​ ok explain how you measure equality past the constitution of a country or are you talking about equity?
/r/MensRights19/06/23 09:07 AM
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Why do so few rape cases go to court? False Rape Allegations maybe you should ask yourself why certain fields are dominated by men or women but i doubt you get past patriarchy hinders women and their free choices including the consequences... working conditions certainly should be improved for everybody but you have to be realistic about the requirements of various tasks and how they are funded...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 09:02 AM
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already provided a source and explanation but she did choose to ignore it... male nurses work more hours "roughly 90% men fulltime vs 80% women fulltime" and she still screams misogyny if you point that and the math around it out as explanation for a pay gap...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 08:47 AM
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91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed women. Male nurses are more likely to work the night shift than female nurses. that is from the source in that article but the conclusions of the article distorts it... i doubt you did read the report...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 08:45 AM
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thats your conclusion which is quite funny after i acknowledged there are issues no matter your gender but i presented solutions for it and you did choose to ignore it... further you call everything misogynistic that criticises the conclusions and statements of feminists...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 08:07 AM
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Here on r/MensRights, almost nobody ever talks about the horrors of being sexually assaulted--what you do see with some frequency are men talking about having been falsely accused of sexual assault. The men's rights activists on this forum make it abundantly clear that they're not interested in men's health and progress--they're only interested in destroying feminism, despite that feminists are largely capable of agreeing with many of the supposed values of MRAs, including circumcision, the all-…
/r/MensRights19/06/23 04:32 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, surveys and rethoric... see rape culture "disagree on the term" has a serious issue with our justice system behind it but the conversations about it are a dead end most of the time... social safety and education lowers crime rates extremly so what does hinder us to become a gender neutral society past that?
/r/MensRights19/06/23 04:19 AM
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(Statistics cited) Women are more likely to commit crime than people think. The reason most prisoners are men isn't simply because they commit crime more. Men get caught more. ​ The reason we expose feminism a lot is because feminism created some of the big problems or is blocking our progress. One example is rape statistics, propaganda, and support services.available to male victims of heterosexual rape. ok thats obviously one statistic... ​ These are the most tangible issues that MRAs care abo…
/r/MensRights19/06/23 03:45 AM
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so if we provide evidence "as i did" of entire feminist subs "+100k members" behave sexist you still say thats not how most feminists feel but continue to state the mra movement is worse for acting the same way? agree on the quality of the intercourse should be better and more civil but you could tell that to the feminists aswell...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 03:40 AM
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maybe read the content of the evidence provided before you embarrass yourself...
/r/MensRights19/06/23 03:34 AM
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Wouldn't that be a shame if it completely dismantled your entire misogynistic point? hm it is somewhat telling if they do not mention hours worked in a direct comparison women vs men and jump to conclusions pretty quick in that article... in most gender pay gap statistics men work more hours on average = they earn more money on average... 91% of male nurses work full time vs. 80% of female nurses. This aligns with 2019 BLS data that shows 89% of employed men work full time vs. 77% of employed wo…
/r/MensRights19/06/23 03:31 AM
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feminists vs mras ​ why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? ​ feminists and double standards ​ they've created this delusion where feminism is to blame for all of their problems actually the issue is supporting affirmative action to push for equity instead of equality and distorting statistics, studies or censoring/shadowbanning/dunking everything that does not promote feminism etc to achieve that = examples are rape culture + gender pay gap... …
/r/MensRights18/06/23 06:00 PM
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homeless shelters vs the community
/r/MensRights18/06/23 12:03 PM
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great we have the same goals then! btw some members in this sub are lets say a little bit rougher with their arguments... if you engage a lot and state you are a feminist you probably get confronted with the duluth model and quotes of feminists a lot...
/r/MensRights17/06/23 08:26 PM
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hm private vs public funding is a spicy topic but both have pro's and con's... certainly agree that capitalism needs regulation specially regarding social safety... ​ social safety vs bureaucracy and financing problems "privat funding vs public funding"
/r/MensRights17/06/23 07:58 PM
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may i show you a few things... https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/139lpvz/why_do_mens_rights_activists_and_feminists_fight/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yek1nr/comment/itzgb05/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 personally i have no problem with feminism but various feminists "mras aswell" distort the topics to push their personal agenda which has nothing to do with equality most of the time...
/r/MensRights17/06/23 06:51 PM
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i guess the issue is what is done to fix it but i would blame our politicians mainly...
/r/MensRights17/06/23 06:44 PM
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may i ask you why we argue about accusations and data who has it worse by interpretations of various things? the solution to it is to reduce crime rates generally and that can be achieved by social safety and a few other things... improving the justice system "which includes police work" and other areas is extremly difficult but i would like to hear your suggestions...
/r/MensRights17/06/23 06:39 PM
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I am so sick of people just plain ignoring any kind of empirical evidence/data sadly it seems to be really hard to tell if the issue is unintentional bad interpretations or on purpose misinformation + distorting a topic to push an agency...
/r/MensRights10/06/23 09:14 AM
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I saw someone link their own comment once as "evidence". if there are no links or sources of evidence gathered certainly futile
/r/MensRights10/06/23 09:10 AM
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why is there a need for a mens rights movement? ​ (Statistics cited) Women are more likely to commit crime than people think. The reason most prisoners are men isn't simply because they commit crime more. Men get caught more. ​ historical oppression of women by men "myth" VS feminist agency ​ sexist feminist quotes ​ why homeless shelters for males get protested against?
/r/MensRights10/06/23 08:25 AM
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askfeminist about are we dating the same guy ethics
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/23 11:49 AM
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hm if you look at it from that point of view i would agree with you... my point was... if a woman wants a partner who earns more or has more ambition/drive than her "hypergamy" the likelihood of becoming the caretaker and contributing to the wage gap increases extremly... if a man wants a young + carefree partner who does not know what she wants in her life yet because of lacking experience the likelihood of the relationship or marriage will fail increases extremly...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:18 AM
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so you do not care about the connection to the wage gap or who is the prime caretaker etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:06 AM
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which influences who stays at home with the children because the partner earns more
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:04 AM
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that doesn’t mean every woman dates up and marries a great guy. Some women rush into marriage and make a mistake. hm i guess dating up or down is connected to women are deemed to be the prime caretakers in a relationship VS stay at home dad to raise the children... that said how does our upbringing of children influence such choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:00 AM
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such podcasts are a waste of time as the guest are handpicked to ignite controversy and almost never present a balanced debate... whatever is at least better than fresh&fit etc...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:52 PM
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you can not reason with some but pls do not get worked up about them
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:44 PM
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playing pokemon all day is interesting only to me usually pokemon is great! pls do not get intimidated by some of the rough users and their comments here...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:43 PM
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askfeminists about parental surrender by men short version: https://ibb.co/wSYs8PF
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:39 PM
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yea thats quite a bother but the important comments in this post got several upvotes =)
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:30 PM
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is antifeminism of mras overrated? oh well chusurii we have a looong way infront of us here to get past fighting over trifles and actually solving issues...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:22 PM
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does it suprise you if various subs get banned and everybody gathers here and calls himself mra? that said i have seen similiar things happening in feminists subs with reversed roles sadly... it goes as far as calling menslib another mra sub or if it just hurts men it is ok statements... ​ Could you be friends with MRA who is not antifeminist?
/r/MensRights30/05/23 02:35 PM
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probably just blindly hating on whatever a feminist says can not be helped some can not be reasoned with...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 02:32 PM
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maybe go a step further because we can not measure equality properly?
/r/MensRights30/05/23 01:54 PM
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ask feminists on several issues "links gathered"
/r/MensRights30/05/23 01:37 PM
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which is fair! ​ that said tomorrow this is probably forgotten and we are on each others throat again because of poor communication...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 01:30 PM
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how about we ignore all that and focus on removing as many barriers as possible for everybody?
/r/MensRights30/05/23 01:11 PM
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agree and upvoted
/r/MensRights30/05/23 01:11 PM
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And when they say the care about male victims of sexual violence (it's never rape), and domestic violence, they pretty much always mean "of male perpetrators". +false accusations askfeminists about rape culture ​ nothing about custody/fatherlessness askfeminists about parental surrender by men short version: https://ibb.co/wSYs8PF ​ divorce askfeminist about is marriage worth it ​ suicide askfeminists on suicide ​ the draft or conscription and mandatory military service askfeminists about protes…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 12:53 PM
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why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? yea there are radicals who ignite conflict in both movements instead of concentrating on solving issues...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 11:38 AM
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KaliTheCat "mod of askfeminists" (topic - what mra get right) I think many of their complaints are legitimate-- that poor men are often exploited for dangerous, cheap labor; that there isn't much social or cultural support for male victims of sexual and domestic violence; that hegemonic masculinity can be stifling and fragile; that men and boys are lonelier than ever before; that male infant circumcision is still legal and widely practiced in some areas; etc.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 11:36 AM
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the problem is radicals in both movements igniting conflict on purpose instead of concentrating on solving issues...
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:16 AM
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disagree but you probably never met a women who wants a stay at home dad because she earns more than him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:32 AM
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oh you could just think of all the old ladies past 60...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:31 AM
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i would not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:12 AM
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well you could say the same about men if you date overweight or in another way insecure women... that said a man does not commit to a women just because she has sex with him...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:07 AM
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Construction is not dangerous but women are treated with malice. It would be exponentially more dangerous (in one of vague "dangerous" jobs) because trust and teamwork are important in those jobs. may i ask if you would consider gossip about the shortcomings of men as sexist behavior? would you consider it to be womensplaining if stranger women want to explain a dad how to do certain things properly with his children? just asking this because im curious about your perspective... ​ stop telling m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:55 PM
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If they also have a job that doesn't really make the world a better place? which jobs would that be? personally i would consider garbage collectors or sewer cleaners as vital part of society as many other jobs... that said social jobs are less paid because of various reasons that have nothing to do with women like people have to be able to afford it even if it is paid by taxes... ​ I don't think many men don't value mothers role in reproduction. I do think many men don't relate that to women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:32 AM
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Asking the real questions. Is it sexist or just the straight up facts that giving birth is the greatest achievement a woman can do. ok would you also say everything a male can do pales compared to that hence men are worth less and women have to be protected? idk the direction of this conversation is a dead end...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:52 AM
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claiming to have invented something and actually inventing it is not the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:49 AM
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I'm a woman and I don't really have a reason to appreciate genders as whole. what does hinder us to become a gender neutral society then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:48 AM
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One of my non-negotiables would be no clubbing and no girls trips (partying trips, like to Ibiza, Bali, Miami). With me, all for it. Alone, no way. It’s disrespectful to our relationship. However am I a hypocrite if I can go out clubbing with the boys. yes i would say it is hypocritical and a double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:29 AM

are you fine with men surrender their parental duties if they do not want to become a father but the women wants the child? it goes even further if we consider social safety of the child and if the state should cover that...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:23 AM
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are you talking about auxiliary workers? they are also paid poorly in germany with average living cost in mind but at least at minimum wage now 12€... my wife still tells me what people in that field tell her about daily life... ​ I'm sure Germany isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the UK and certainly the US. agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:01 AM
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agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:14 AM
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can you be 100% certain about that if the people investigating history are biased in one way or another? it is somewhat similiar with how islam gets interpreted by dubious ringleaders... ​ do not get me wrong im all about our society should we as equal as possible...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:10 AM
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well im from germany and living there... my wife is a nurse so i have a pretty good grasp on how we see it... we have a skills shortage because of the poor working conditions and low payment... im a social worker at a school so i guess i have a good grasp about how teachers are treated... there is also a skills shortage but the reasons for that are a little bit different... at higher profile schools teachers are respected but below that i would suggest to read the teacher subs on reddit... ​ hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:56 AM

agree boys and men should not be praised for their bodycount and women should not be shamed for theirs... that said how would you tackle a topic like adoption and parental surrender no matter the gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:51 AM
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i do not know about others but i see how a woman looks like no matter how much make up she uses... therefore my opinion on if she is attractive or not has nothing to do with her make up...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:47 AM
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hm i guess the topic should be about social safety and working conditions for everybody...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:40 AM
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Value you're talking about is probably "dating market" value and it's pretty much the same deal for women - unless you provide something, you aren't valued as a potential partner. Sex, birthing children, even just being pretty is still providing something. Also for long-term relationships you have to provide far more than that. is the value thing not all about putting womens sexuality on a pedestal "because of pregnancy" and patronizing it? followed by upbringing of children and how our society …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:36 AM
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ok and at what point would you say protection becomes paternalism like patriarchs protecting "patronizing" their wifes and daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:32 AM
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maybe because statistics show how men and women are divided up in various workfields on average? Top 25 most dangerous jobs in the United States Top 27 most risky jobs for your health social work has low payment because people have to be able to afford it even if paid by taxes and this has nothing to do with women are valued less... ​ personally i think the topic should be social safety and working conditions in our society no matter your gender...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:20 AM
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I agree that men in many societies have historically tended to underestimate women and their contribution to society i disagree as men protect till it gets patronizing womens sexuality since humans populate the planet... womens sexuality is on a pedestal and we can argue about if that is sensible at all... what does hinder us to become a gender neutral society?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:11 AM
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i see what you did there lol... that said what is your stance on equality vs equity in our society and do women need special protection compared to men? what does hinder us to become a gender neutral society?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:06 AM
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how would you adjust the payment if people have to be able to afford stuff life daycare or education? while we are at it lets also talk about funding private vs public and its problems...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:03 AM
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consent is an issue because we as society "both men and women" have no clue about boundaries of the other sex... a lot of people fail at differentiating harassment and flirting... i guess we could continue with sexual assault/violence numbers are the result... ​ adoption is an issue because we as society have no clue about upbringing of children... how are boys and girls affected by adult political agenda? parental surrender no matter if by men or women is is one of the political agendas connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:41 AM
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abortion is an issue because people argue about it for various reasons and pregnancy is the main reason for an imbalance between the sexes... protecting women "specially pregnant women" is used as patronizing their sexuality their entire life... just to be clear im pro choice and pro sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:27 AM
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would also add that we as society have to clue how to tackle our sexuality properly... which creates issues like abortion, adoption, the upbringing of children and consent...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:07 PM

hm i would add that a lof of people also have a problem with differentiating harassment and consent... ​ where, when and how is it ok to approach if you want to get to know somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:03 AM
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If you marry for love and compatibility and how well you work together then it's 100% worth it. well most people who marry would argue they do it because of love or not? do you think it is a good thing that the government intervenes in marriage and upbringing of children?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:40 AM
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Marriage is not worth it for ANYONE who does not marry someone who earns more than them. Marriage is not worth it if you earn more than the other person. Marriage only has disadvantages if you're the higher earner. why is that? lets say the government would not intervene in marriage why would people marry instead of just living together?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:37 AM

how would you tackle topics like the wage gap, crime rates, toxic behavior etc to avoid confirmation bias and misrepresenting real issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:05 AM
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what would be the best approach for family setup, upbringing of children and sexuality generally in your opinion? do women need special protection + support compared to men or not?
/r/MensRights22/05/23 10:31 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts social safety vs bureaucracy and financing problems "privat funding vs public funding" female dominated fields pay less & the pink tax why do mens rights activists and feminists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? female dominated fields pay less & the pink tax
/r/MensRights21/05/23 10:29 AM
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Why do so few rape cases go to court? ​ False Rape Allegations ​ We found these data to contradict the common belief that female sexual perpetration is rare.
/r/MensRights21/05/23 10:23 AM
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OECD's Social Institutions & Gender Index is a joke ​ UN's Gender Inequality Index does not measure gender inequality ​ feminismuncensored about equality vs equity and indexes
/r/MensRights15/05/23 01:06 PM
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abuse of statistics, studies, rethoric/semantics and facts...
/r/MensRights14/05/23 07:31 AM
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ok great we have the same goal! do not get scared off by some of the more aggressive members here and feel free to ask anything you want...
/r/MensRights09/05/23 05:20 PM
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thanks for your thoughts! did you read the content of some links that got posted here?
/r/MensRights09/05/23 05:07 PM
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many feminists deliberately fail to acknowledge that those who benefit the most have been men of privilege, not all men, and not even the majority of men well this part is about their rhetoric and semantics... if the top 1% in power are mostly conservative men "patriarchs" for them it is fine to say there is a patriarchy... i do not agree with that stance but i see where it is coming from... ​ Effectively, they say "you [men] made this mess, you [men] clean it up". ​ agree this is disingenuous ​…
/r/MensRights09/05/23 10:28 AM
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We know that they're are misandrists who co-opt feminism but it's not our main concern because and feminists about equality vs equity and feminist gender bias ​ Could you be friends with MRA who is not antifeminist? VS Could you be friends with a feminist who is not misandrist?
/r/MensRights08/05/23 02:36 PM
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ask feminists about parental surrender by men ​ short version: https://ibb.co/wSYs8PF
/r/MensRights08/05/23 11:11 AM
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agree! so we have to hold our politicians accountable and do not exaggerate if mistakes happen while they seriously try to do their best?
/r/MensRights08/05/23 04:48 AM
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You probably wouldn’t like to be stereotyped based on the worst examples of MRAs any more than I would. the issue is thats what is happening currently if we talk about topics like patriarchy, toxic masculinity, internalized misogyny, mansplaining and so on... it becomes hillarious if we talk about the pay gap or rape culture as statistics and studies get alienated... did you notice how menslib gets criticised or labeled as another mra sub because they try to be inclusive?
/r/MensRights08/05/23 04:09 AM
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agree!
/r/MensRights08/05/23 04:04 AM
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feminists say they advocate for equality but what they do is advocating for equity... as you can see with the gender pay gap and what they push for to solve it... alienating statistics and studies to claim discrimination instead of discussing about legal protection, social safety and working conditions... the topic of the post is some feminists want superiority without even knowing it because they do not understand it... ​ equality vs equity
/r/MensRights07/05/23 08:18 PM
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do you ever feel like some feminists forgetting the purpose of feminism?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 07:45 PM
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How can they jointly brainstorm solutions when the goals of one is to disadvantage the other? thats why we ask them if they understand the difference between equality "of opportunity" and equity "equality of outcome" in theory and practice...
/r/MensRights07/05/23 06:48 AM
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Women's Educational Equity Act ​ Violence Against Women Act
/r/MensRights07/05/23 06:13 AM
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what would you say about their statement that feminism has no political power if abortion is not legal? im aware that there is an opposite opinion on what equality or equity actually means in theory and practice... some of them say women have to be favored to close the gap but which gap and based on what exactly is never explained in detail... ​ has feminism gone too far?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 06:06 AM
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i think you misunderstood my intention and the content of my post... this post is about explaining why both movements hate eachother backed up with evidence...
/r/MensRights07/05/23 05:58 AM
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idk if we should argue about marxism and socialism with them as it is a dead end... they would never admit that it does not work and deny that it ever existed... my issue is they blame capitalism for things that would also happen in any other economic system...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 07:07 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/13ka14x/mens_rights_and_traditionalism/ ​ https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1dsog0/what_are_your_opinions_on_the_mens_rights_movement/ ​ https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/113ba0/what_in_your_opinion_is_mensrights_ultimate_goal/ ​ https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/11ywpch/is_there_any_truth_to_mra_claims_there_are_almost/ ​ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/q5ytng/is_every_mra_talking_point_a_statistics…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:39 PM
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double standards & hypocrisy of feminists just to show how conflicts get ignited between movements...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:03 PM
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would be great if you could add some credible links or sources about that... would give us something to cite if they start to ramble about misogyny again...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 04:56 PM
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personally i think your comment here is actually great for this discussion but what do i know
/r/MensRights06/05/23 04:34 PM
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agree
/r/MensRights06/05/23 03:01 PM
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i could cite this post if they argue mras are misogynistic etc to prove them wrong? currently i do not think any of them will post anyways if it is not for unloading their emotions...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:26 PM
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thanks for your input!
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:21 PM
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why do you think a civil honest debate is lecturing?
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:18 PM
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I know, I didn't say they were. You chose that quote though... It would be interesting to see what it was in response to. i posted the list of sexist quotes of feminists that got pinned in this sub a few days ago and asked for their opinions ​ Does it go towards answering your question of why MRA's and Feminists don't, and can't, work together? yes
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:12 PM
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8. No harassment or extreme personal attacks 10. Racism and other hate speech restrictions that are this subs rules not mine...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:09 PM
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thats why i try to work on it but currently it seems like we can not have a civil debate about it and feminists are not even commenting yet...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:07 PM
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yea it is somewhat telling if we can not even start a civil debate about this topic
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:05 PM
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You forgot the part where feminism actively blocks, distracts, and dissuades people from even seeing men’s issues as issues agree ​ Feminists are sexist power hungry bigots, and it’s more appropriate to compare them to the KKK than to MRA’s would be cautious with statements like that
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:03 PM
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yes thats true because we have open discussion here and they have safe spaces which terminates it
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:59 PM
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Interesting how you went straight for Mary P. Koss and her thoughts on rape. Or rather, an attempted white-washing of her thoughts... that are not my thoughts i just quoted a feminist i talked with about this topic... anyways agree with you
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:55 PM
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would you be fine with high taxes if you would benefit from them heavily? like good healthcare, low crime rates, decent public transport, day care of children or elderly, less homeless, less suicide and so on...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:49 PM
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who said i disagree with you on that topic? creating evidence that mras care and discuss about various issues is my intention also... already did the same in feminist subs and private chats...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:29 PM
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agree with you! that said a social economy within capitalism is possible as you can see with germany... downsides are ofcourse horrendous bureaucracy and how the money gets spent...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:24 PM
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im not a feminist... what you stated about gender neutral laws is the topic of discussion
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:20 PM
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i do already...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:19 PM
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know your enemy - and learn about his favourite sport nelson mandela hate the sin but love the sinner mahatma gandhi
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:17 PM
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if you follow history countries negotiated with nazis or dictators for various reasons but if you do not want to discuss about it ok fine
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:07 PM
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male
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:06 PM
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who said i consider myself as feminist? im a pragmatic realist and advocate for egalitarianism...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:03 PM
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fair point
/r/MensRights06/05/23 01:00 PM
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ok fine well korea also negotiated just for your information else they would have obliterated both countries...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:58 PM
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quote of a feminist ​ Sure.... so the post completely misconstrues Mary P. Koss's work and motives. She is not a prominent feminist: the closest she has ever come to that is identifying as a "feminist-informed scientist" in a 2015 interview (now missing from the web, but whatever) The MRAs hate her because of a paper she wrote in 1993: https://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Koss-1993-Detecting-the-Scope-of-Rape-a-review-of-prevalence-research-methods-see-p.-206-last-par…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:56 PM
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this post is about explaining and to discuss exactly what you are talking about ​ btw that was a quote from an askfeminists mod
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:50 PM
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ok this post is about talking about stuff like that but we will see if some feminists or women respond to it...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:48 PM
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telling your story or experiences are not about proving a point so it is welcome! ​ ok but even if you are at war with somebody you have to negotiate sooner or later...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:45 PM
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no i think they are all over the place and confuse or mix various issues gathered evidence
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:42 PM
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Koss' research is referenced whenever a feminist uses the one-in-four myth, or whenever they say "but most rapes are committed by men". Advocating for rape law reform means advocating against Koss' influence, and the lackies who support it and talk about it as if it were truth. You can't really get away from the fact that advocating for mens issues means overcoming the efforts of feminists to entrench those issues. ​ male experience ​ reform of laws ​ are you certain you are not arguing vs their…
/r/MensRights30/04/23 06:09 PM
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But that's working against feminists, which you disagree with. personally i do not think so... i did a lot of research and koss or pence almost never get mentioned by feminists... that said we still have to do something about the bias you mentioned but it is easier as you think it is if we do not argue out of context with eachother... ​ I believe in opposing hate groups. Don't you? i believe in opposing hateful individual people which automatically negates hateful groups... if feminists said the…
/r/MensRights30/04/23 05:45 PM
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well i would say by discarding everything that has to do with mary koss, ellen pence and similiar figures? we can not work with outdated data anyways... ​ btw acting against certain feminists does not equal to acting against all of them till the end of times...
/r/MensRights30/04/23 05:25 PM
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well have to disagree there partly as political agendas in schools influence children aswell in various ways... one example is boys are forced to hold back in sport or arguments or projects till the valve explodes...
/r/MensRights30/04/23 03:55 PM
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Just take a brief look at the teachers subreddit and see how many disrespectful / violent kids there are. i have and i work at various schools as social worker thats why i see several things first hand... tiktok and social media generally is one factor of many...
/r/MensRights30/04/23 03:46 PM
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Men's rights advocacy necessarily means acting against feminism and feminists. disagree we have to act against radicals and extremists no matter which side they are on... social safety and decent education benefits men and women... we have to focus more on the key points instead of arguing about trifles which wastes time...
/r/MensRights30/04/23 03:42 PM
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why do you and some of the downvoters think i question that? the post i commented on sounded like an assumption without details thats why i asked for a source... btw you provided one as personal experience which is fine...
/r/MensRights15/04/23 05:42 AM
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the issue is we could actually agree on various things you said BUT you neglect "probably out of ignorance" various things aswell hence you get downvoted... yes men are more powerful and can do more physical damage in a fight but that does not equal to men are more violent... female violence "more psychological" is harder to spot than male violence "more physical" as it is easy to spot... you can see this evolving specially in schools how boys and girls behave and it reinforces as adults... ​ bt…
/r/MensRights14/04/23 08:59 PM
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just want your source nothing more nothing less... (you assume i do imply something)
/r/MensRights14/04/23 10:32 AM
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you had a good start with your first post but it went downhill past that because of various reasons... tbh it is pretty sad about what we argue here actually as we could spend our time and energy on more productive things... ​ how about more women joining political parties?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 10:00 AM
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look at this analogy... (it is about the number of applicants if you do not get it) ​ You have 100 men and 100 women working in three occupations: A, B and C. Occupation A has 50 men earning $100 and 10 women earning $110. Occupation B has 40 men earning $50 and 40 women earning $55. Occupation C has 10 men earning $30 and 50 women earning $33. In this hypothetical scenario, all the women are being paid 10% more than all the men in all three jobs. The men, taken altogether, are earning an averag…
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:39 AM
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in a vacuum nobody is more qualified... that said in reality most of the time x10 or more males apply "political parties" which creates more selection quality... that said if you want to force 50-50 there why not in jobs that are dangerous for your life or health and social jobs aswell? is it not unfair that mainly men should defend a country like we see in ukraine currently?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 09:32 AM
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source? ​ public safety canada ​ sexual assault canada
/r/MensRights14/04/23 08:13 AM
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add that physical violence is easy to spot but psychological violence not yet... another issue is which studies "feminists think surveys = studies hence the 1 out of 4 narrative" are credible...
/r/MensRights13/04/23 08:46 AM
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what is your point or goal arguing about pointless trifles here? i think you do not understand the difference between equality vs equity and have no clue how both work in practice... if you care about working conditions or social safety or bodily autonomy mra's are on your side BUT our methods are more realistic than the marxist idea of terminating capitalism, patriarchy, toxic masculinity etc...
/r/MensRights13/04/23 07:37 AM
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well i guess that the rights are actually enforced properly and holding our politicians accountable...
/r/MensRights12/04/23 08:35 PM
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i think you underestimate the consequences but a strike like that would wake up some people from their delusion...
/r/MensRights12/04/23 08:34 PM
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do you support parental surrender of men? if yes most mra's would support pro choice but if not why should they support it...
/r/MensRights12/04/23 08:32 PM
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they are probably saying by raising children not properly and voting incompetent people into parliament... by not understanding the background of various issues like the gender pay gap feminists create a narrative of oppression...
/r/MensRights12/04/23 08:29 PM
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well under the duress of patriarchy women can not give consent to anything and no choices are at free will by feminist logic... that said pls do not confuse all women should with i prefer if a women i want to date...
/r/MensRights10/04/23 08:19 AM
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I'm a feminist. Don't know what you mean by "hardcore," but I definitely take issues like sexual assault seriously and acknowledge that that issue disproportionately impacts women. I'm also a man, so unless I am mistaken of my own motives, I stand to gain no personal benefit at all, unless I guess I am for instance sexually assaulted which is a non-zero chance. As for this OP, is this sub saying you can't both be a feminist as support social issues that impact men? Then I guess I deserve a ban d…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 05:26 PM
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you "feminists" accuse this sub and mras "instead of individuals" shitposting and hiding true intentions but ignore it when feminists do the same... the link shows a post comparing feminist and mra talking points including links... no censorship like in safe spaces... personally i do not support extreme stances as most solutions to our problems match... probably pointless anyways to talk about that... ​ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yek1nr/comment/itzgb05/?utm_source=share&utm_med…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 04:57 PM
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i just showed you feminist spaces do the same stuff... anyways you said is this sub saying x y z but everybody speaks for him or herself... idk what you want to achieve with that double standard... preteding to be feminist? i guess you should undestand the point... that said feminist spaces are safe spaces which teminates honest open discussion...
/r/MensRights06/04/23 04:48 PM
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maybe take a look at luxembourgs policies and ministry of equality as their wage gap almost vanished completly... that said i was somewhat suprised that countries like poland "pretty conservative" have a lower wage gap than social economies like germany or sweden... gender pay gap statistic europe ​ btw i studied the gender pay gap and its causes + possible solutions heavily... my point with closing the gaps was male dominated fields are way more dangerous + problematic for health AND if we work…
/r/MensRights06/04/23 06:07 AM
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A small (but loud) minority make the rest of feminism look bad. Like the small but loud minority of men make the rest of men look bad. The extremes should be ignored so the moderates can move things forward. Men and women should be working together to improve our collective situations. do you think you and other feminists can ignore radicals like you suggested? (and stop to label everybody with a different opinion as right wing) that said i repeat i offer honest open discussion about any topic..…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:52 AM
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you did not read anything of that else your response would be different... that said i already offered an open discussion...
/r/MensRights05/04/23 04:58 AM
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great display thank you
/r/MensRights04/04/23 08:19 AM
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dialog between feminists and mras
/r/MensRights04/04/23 08:01 AM
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dialog between feminists and mras
/r/MensRights04/04/23 07:59 AM
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probably enough encounters with women who identify as feminists who yelled at him for various reasons... jfyi feminist spaces are safe spaces = terminates honest open discussion... that said what do you want to achieve here? do you understand the difference between equality + equity in theory and practice? feminist talking points mens rights activist talking points
/r/MensRights04/04/23 07:21 AM
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camille paglia
/r/MensRights04/04/23 07:20 AM
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you should research what feminists say about this video and the lady in it... if you are at it continue with camille paglia... ​ feminists talking points vs mra talking points
/r/MensRights04/04/23 07:19 AM
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personally i would like to discuss openly about all topic with credible sources at hand...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 04:49 AM
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true but if we think about nurses for example they are pretty physical aswell...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 04:21 AM
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would add that they are bad at talking about women issues aswell which we can see with their patriarchy, gender pay gap, sexual harassment/consent, toxic masculinity and a few other talking points...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 04:06 AM
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tbh im not suprised as most feminists subs are safe spaces which terminates honest open discussion and creates echo chambers...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 03:59 AM
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tbh im not suprised as most feminists subs are safe spaces which terminates honest open discussion...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 03:58 AM
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tbh im not suprised as most feminists subs are safe spaces which terminates honest open discussion...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 03:58 AM
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tbh im not suprised as most feminists subs are safe spaces which terminates honest open discussion...
/r/MensRights04/04/23 03:58 AM
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maybe take a look at luxembourgs policies and ministry of equality as their wage gap almost vanished completly... that said i was somewhat suprised that countries like poland "pretty conservative" have a lower wage gap than social economies like germany or sweden... gender pay gap europe statistic
/r/MensRights03/04/23 07:43 PM
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i think we have to deep dive if we want to talk about this topic "choices and their consequences or who acts at free will"...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 07:38 PM
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actually agree with you because we can see how too much work and stress damages our health mentally and physically... that said why should men continue to close the gaps women create on cost of their own health? 4 days work each week for everybody! (which will create various issues in non office jobs)
/r/MensRights03/04/23 07:13 PM
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fair by which definition? a level playing field is not fair if women compete with men as we can see in various political systems in democratic countries... ​ btw i did not downvote you and i think it is a disgraceful behavior in this sub too often...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:48 PM
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well i basically copy&pasted the points from a feminist sub to talk about them here... if the demand for pockets is there you could earn millions if you provide the supply... that said this shows that the real issue is how we raise our children and how we got raised by our parents if we really have to ridicule anybody... ​ feminist talking points vs mra talking points
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:39 PM
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did you ask them if they understand the difference between equality and equity in theory and practice? personally i would support social safety nets as it reduces crime rates, homelessness, suizid rates and uplifts single parents aswell...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:33 PM
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well the issue is feminists want to eliminate any form of competition and introduce democratic socialism... if you listen to some of their solutions to various problems but they do not think about the issues they create...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:26 PM
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It’s a perfectly level playing field, provided you can carry your weight. which is the issue for feminist as they say men push women out of such fields because of competition to get the most money for the best position... oh and sexual harassment aswell as always... ​ similiar story if they complain about stuff like pants for women have no practical pockets -> they do not want to hear how supply and demand works... ​ similiar story if they complain about medicine not beeing tested enough for wom…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 05:12 PM
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i know but it is pretty pointless to tell feminists that as they deflect and will say men hindered women on all levels of society to rise... feminists want to eliminate any form of competition and introduce democratic socialism...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:09 PM
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actually it would not fix the pay gap as they work less hours for various reasons... i would suggest to them to reduce working hours for everybody no matter the field to match their time off work... lets see how long it takes till society collapses...
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:01 PM
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just look at the court case of the us women national soccer team because of unfair pay... (if you do not want to read you can watch it on youtube aswell) US Women's Soccer Equal Pay Claims vs Facts US Women's Soccer Equal Pay Claims vs Facts. Court says they got paid more than the Men.
/r/MensRights03/04/23 01:57 PM
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topic? nobody said mra as a whole is pointless but we are way to relaxed with single users who abuse the cause as camouflage... which is exactly what certain feminists do "duluth model" aswell... i do not try to disprove or fight you if you think that...
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:25 PM
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oh it would take a lot of time to dig for the links as i do not save everything but i will provide everything i can find... that said i heavily doubt you take this seriously and wipe away everything... which is handy if suspects delete their comments or thread to prevent evidence... it is not about that men and women are different or any disagreement/debate... if you need insults in your arguments you have no arguments... you should read the rules of reddit and this sub about that... btw that du…
/r/MensRights17/02/23 07:07 PM
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well i guess it depends on how she got raised? my current wife did not and does not shit test
/r/MensRights17/02/23 05:50 PM
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copeharderhun quotes (forgot his new username but mopeharderhun or something) "Go suck dick glowie. Scum of the earth like you can worship vagina all you want, just don't fucking try and convince me to join you on the path of misery." "Same shit. To assume that males and females of a species are the same for the simple fact that they share a species is fucking moronic." "Nothing angers me more than twats convinced they are correct based on nothing but wishful thinking." "Fucking disgusting. I re…
/r/MensRights17/02/23 05:48 PM
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it is not to blame for economy... personally i would blame a lot of feminists for misrepresenting various issues like the pay gap, crime rates and rash conclusions based on double standards... that said i would prefer to work hand in hand to solve problems instead of arguing about pointless and most of the time communication trifles...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:25 PM
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that is easier said than done if we look at the pay gap OR unsolicited advice/help and differentiating patronizing behavior from courtesy towards coworkers there for example ​ women's sanitary products at work does this support freedom/equality? i certainly get that we should talk about how our society should look like but most of the time it is rash or delicate if we talk about raising children...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 09:11 AM
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i highly value clean water you not?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 08:54 AM
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would agree on almost everything BUT the perspectives of equality/equity and how it should be enforced is questionable...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 08:19 AM
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do you think unions did something to improve working conditions? people always had to fight for freedom and opportunities...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 08:11 AM
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somehow this does not make sense as women are the majority of workers in social fields and we do not compete directly most of the time... with that logic we could also say remove basic school education for everybody "private schools/teaching remains" to raise the salary of teachers...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 08:03 AM
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agree on everything you said so far! that said it is pretty pointless to argue with conservative people if they want their static roles in relationships... it is really frustrating to explain why we need social safety nets and more appreciation of social work...
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:55 AM
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tbh our value system is fucked up if social jobs have almost no value
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:50 AM
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well you can make a point like jordan peterson or you can make a point like andrew tate... both could say the truth but it will be perceived differently no matter if you can take them seriously generally... tate for example insults people on a regular basis and calls it the truth or people can not handle the truth... (he himself said he wants to be offensive)
/r/MensRights24/12/22 07:32 AM
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Women start experiencing harassment about the age of 12. does this really matter if men experience the same/similiar thing at the same age? the issue is if we talk about problems like the pay gap or parental leave or crime rates etc it becomes a mudfight who oppresses who and who is more privileged... you can not define that if you use double standards... we lose so much time and energy with misunderstandings in communication and pointless arguments instead of brainstorming solutions...
/r/MensRights23/12/22 03:26 PM
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may i ask why you did choose this picture instead of something that shows protest against gender neutral laws for rape+sexual assault, parental surrender for men and so on? feminists vs gender neutral rape laws ​ “Do you agree with paper abortion for men” is gaslighting, end of story
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:57 PM
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i think you missunderstood something as i provided sources on topic...
/r/MensRights29/11/22 12:31 PM
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not gender neutral rape laws tbh it is somewhat silly...
/r/MensRights28/11/22 02:59 PM
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tbh it is pretty pointless to argue with her if she is unable to check facts herself properly... specially feminists tend to oversimplify problems till they lose sight of the cause of the problems and their solutions...
/r/MensRights26/11/22 09:37 AM
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UK Statistics about sexual violence and abuse take a look at the details specially!
/r/MensRights24/11/22 07:45 PM
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Link to Lawsuit ​ US Women's Soccer Equal Pay Claims vs Facts. Court says they got paid more than the Men.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 02:41 PM
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strong woman ​ strong man
/r/MensRights20/11/22 02:05 PM
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This comment shows exactly what we are fighting against, the scale of the problem we face, and what is wrong with society at large. What are "Men's Rights Activists" expecting from Feminist subs/ Feminism related communities in general? could post more but im pretty tired of this already...
/r/MensRights19/11/22 07:42 PM
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What are "Men's Rights Activists" expecting from Feminist subs/ Feminism related communities in general? ​ askfeminist about mra's ​ Is every MRA talking point a statistics manipulation or rooted in hypocrisy? ​ Do you feel that men have a obligation to insert themselves in situations where men are posing as a threat to women? ​ What does the end goal of feminism look like? ​ feminist hypocrisy
/r/MensRights18/11/22 06:08 PM
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What are "Men's Rights Activists" expecting from Feminist subs/ Feminism related communities in general? read some of the feminist comments and specially... ​ Ok, then what did MRAs do except trolling and harassing feminists? I mean, what did they actually do that could be called "advocate for injustice men face" in recent years? Say 10-15 years? I do mean something like protests, legal support, health support, building men shelters... anything. When did they not try to keep their "right" to hav…
/r/MensRights18/11/22 06:06 PM
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gender pay gap misrepresentation
/r/MensRights18/11/22 01:01 PM
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sure but if we advocate for men should be allowed to flee "nobody should be forced to fight/die" it is a better spotlight for mra's... if we do the reverse we are labeled hateful against women...
/r/MensRights17/11/22 12:58 PM
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Mod of AskFeminists ​ FEMINIST MANIFESTO ​ MRA FAQ ​ i think there are radicals + trolls on both sides heating up the situation...
/r/MensRights16/11/22 09:09 PM
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i think feminists see conservatives and wealthy men as patriarchs... they oversimplify issues till it gets distorted...
/r/MensRights16/11/22 01:43 PM
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do you think it is helpful to call that out instead of pushing for allowing men to flee? it sends the wrong message to force everybody to fight...
/r/MensRights16/11/22 01:40 PM
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do you think it is helpful to call that out instead of pushing for allowing men to flee? it sends the wrong message to force everybody to fight...
/r/MensRights16/11/22 01:39 PM
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Comments like this make me ask: Why do MRA always say society should take men's mental health problems more serious, when they make fun of mental health problems among women and even call women mentally ill for fun (as you just said she has daddy issues without haing any idea about her life)? you are not much better if you say all mra "or all feminists" but you should know that...
/r/MensRights14/11/22 02:56 PM
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Are these women extrapolating the small population of men they gravitate toward sexually (toxic, abusive types) to the entire male populace? If so they need to stfu and come to terms with their bizarre mating behavior and preferences, not label all men as violent or abusive. is this part really needed if we talk about equality? ​ Why is it constantly asserted that all women have to be constantly in “fear for their lives” of being assaulted, raped or killed by men despite most men being harmless?…
/r/MensRights14/11/22 02:04 PM
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i would have upvoted and agreed if you did not say "far more than men" as it does not matter if we talk about safety for all people in our society and which solutions are appropriate... that said how would you solve or lets say tackle sexual violence?
/r/MensRights14/11/22 01:37 PM
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agree with you on the ungraceful behaviors of this sub and personally condemn it... that said "women live in fear narrative in democratic countries" mainly comes from distortion of surveys, studies and statistics... if sexual assault "clap on your butt" is translated to 1 out of 4 women are raped OR men are no victims or more violent just because there is a lack of data and recognition of female violence... yes there are crimes and we fear them
/r/MensRights13/11/22 06:06 PM
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just want to ask you how a couple decides who stays at home with the children? would women date down
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:41 PM
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the issue is if sexual assault "clap on your butt" is translated to 1 out of 4 women are raped OR men are no victims or more violent just because there is a lack of data and recognition of female violence... advise you to read the details of the sexual violence surveys
/r/MensRights13/11/22 05:08 PM
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Hi! :) That is a good question. I can’t find them personally and I can’t do further research to find that right this moment. I can come back to it later for you though. The sources for the stats are further down the bottom of the page, with hyperlinks to the studies. just asked because maybe you already knew and it is a wall of text... my issue is if sexual assault "clap on your butt" is translated to 1 out of 4 women are raped OR men are no victims or more violent just because there is a lack o…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:41 PM
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if we abuse "consent" and the definition of rape, sexual assault or sexual harassment it skews the results... if 5 in 6 women who are raped don’t report – and the same is true for 4 in 5 men we can assume the same happens with abuse and assault sadly... everybody fears crimes and abuse but talking about it becomes problematic if statistics and studies get misused + distorted... double standards
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:24 PM
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so all men should be afraid of women aswell because of emotional abuse which might lead to suicide or a criminal life? there is a reason why we have laws and the police etc... (which should be gender neutral)
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:18 PM
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everybody fears crimes and abuse but talking about it becomes problematic if statistics and studies get misused + distorted... anyways how can we solve this issue?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:12 PM
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may i ask how this information was gathered and which questions were asked? (asking because of the similiar somewhat arbitary cdc survey for the us) cdc sexual violence survey VS fbi rape statistics & definition ​ Rape is a statutory offence in England and Wales. The offence is created by section 1[1] of the Sexual Offences Act 2003: (1) A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to th…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:41 AM
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It is better to be married than single. why? ​ Until divorce laws are more equitable, or women are more responsible, marriage is a foolish option. there is a little bit more than that to it... laws should be gender neutral (which will create various issues regarding children) any human should be more responsible
/r/MensRights13/11/22 10:12 AM
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my wife also wanted to do it but got rejected and she is 34...
/r/MensRights12/11/22 07:38 AM
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FWIW, I do think there should be a term i think specially a lot of feminists are not aware of a lot of stuff happening and about the real effects... same story with economy if we talk about the gender pay gap and why female dominated fields pay less...
/r/MensRights10/11/22 02:27 PM
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I think separation is probably the worst thing that can be done, personally. boys vs girls education gap ​ Combining some key principles that MRAs and Feminists agree with to actually evoke change due to strength in numbers, and strength in differences. For example, fighting for reproductive rights as a whole, instead of some fighting for abortion rights, some fighting for paper abortion rights. prefer parental surrender but otherwise agree
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:47 PM
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We were complaining because the majority of women’s clothing doesn’t have functional pockets. why do you think it is this way? are the companies that just focus on maximum profit sexist for removing more practical clothing which sells less?
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:27 PM
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Anyone can be condescending. Mansplaining is a specific subset of that behavior unique to men speaking to women. if we assume my definition is wrong what does change in this thread in your opinion? do you imply women can not womansplain or why does it matter to be men specific for you? ​ I do think there should be a term for the kind of awful and pathetic way that wives in certain sitcoms are scripted to speak to their husbands who are portrayed as an endlessly incompetent man-child. He can do h…
/r/MensRights10/11/22 01:19 PM
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seems like you would be a great father - kudos
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:50 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f8ZrN7Nt60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsIwzNo-9j4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTUREalxVQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZH6YSQvwA you can find more experiments about herassment aswell...
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:47 PM
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The issue is that this then becomes an expectation, and we want to see more. maybe for some men but i think you have a biased view on sexuality from the start then... personally i would push for porn + prostitution to be socially acceptable for various reasons... ​ I've used webcams before. And then I checked my bank account, never realised I had much of an issue, but I have seen that I have spent about 5% of my income on webcams. That's huge. That's over half a month's pay in 1 year. if you ten…
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:37 PM
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Given higher rates of educational attainment in women, and women under 30 starting to out-earn men in some metro areas, do you think women will become more willing to date guys with lower levels of educational/career attainment? ​ The reason we expose feminism a lot is because feminism created some of the big problems or is blocking our progress. One example is rape statistics, propaganda, and support services.available to male victims of heterosexual rape. ​ shelter protest
/r/MensRights08/11/22 01:28 PM
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he "OP" did not call out the issue properly and erupted in emotion therefore he apologised... calling out something based on assumption is no good idea thats why i said ask her first...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 03:34 PM
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women mainly do it to fathers... that said both can be tackled at the same time no matter if it is intentional or not... keep in mind not everybody here is a native english speaker so it could be confusing but still talking about the right thing... semantics but you seem to argue in good faith... you may respond in your own comment "already sent the same msg to that" or you send me a chat request...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 01:43 PM
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this is a prime example of men and women talking past each other... could tell you several similiar things done by women... anyways why did you complain about pockets? Camille Paglia on masculine communication and feminine communication
/r/MensRights07/11/22 01:33 PM
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Mansplaining isn’t about speaking in a condescending manner as I’ve seen several here attempt to assert. Often, men appear to have no intention or awareness of being condescending when doing it. It’s a man assuming, often by ignoring obvious signs to the contrary, that they know more about something than the woman they’re talking to, even (and often) when they have no particular expertise in the field themselves. do we argue about semantics or what is your point? ​ women mainly do it to fathers.…
/r/MensRights07/11/22 01:32 PM
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AskFeminists vs the gender pay gap VS independent women's forum
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:25 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:16 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:15 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:13 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:03 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 06:03 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 05:56 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 05:55 AM
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just ask how she would call condescending women before you erupt with misandry and sexist...
/r/MensRights07/11/22 05:53 AM
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ignore that guy
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:39 PM
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im also aware that single fathers have a similiar problem if other women tell them what to do... It should not be gendered. And if women want to complain about a particular type of man, give “him” a generic name and stop pretending this is something that men generally do. agree
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:24 PM
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why should i rethink? the fact that women also do this is equally paternalistic but nobody said ALL MEN in this example... agree on the misuse of words...
/r/MensRights06/11/22 02:56 PM
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to complain about condescending behavior of some men is not misandry... the problem here is lack of detailed communication between men and women... some may say it is courtesy but i say paternalism... just ask how she would call condescending women...
/r/MensRights06/11/22 02:10 PM
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would say you were wrong...
/r/MensRights06/11/22 02:01 PM
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same
/r/MensRights06/11/22 01:57 PM
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if somebody throws words around like this or racism or sexism or whataboutism it loses any value...
/r/MensRights06/11/22 11:07 AM
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Provide examples for what comments one has posted to get banned. on several occasions feminists talked about the causes for female dominated fields pay less over time... i posted the reason for that is supply + demand and on average better working conditions for said fields... another example would be anything related to rape culture and their cdc survey facts about actual numbers compared to fbi data... if you wish i can list you +100 points that will be removed
/r/MensRights06/11/22 08:35 AM
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i know menslib and follow several subs like askfeminists or feminism - the personal is political... if you want to see a stark contrast visit askwomennocensor and compare it to askfeminists... yes i agree there are a lot of trolls in this sub aswell as conservatives which creates a lot of tension if we talk about sensible topics like how to raise children and abortion...
/r/MensRights05/11/22 04:11 PM
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the feminists subs also push the same narratives consistently and annoy with censorship + misinformation... that said how would you act? if you do not care about anything here why do you comment at all?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 04:00 PM
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no it does not work like that... i post here and im not banned there... my comments show up after like 12-24 hours...
/r/MensRights05/11/22 03:56 PM
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FEMINIST MANIFESTO
/r/MensRights05/11/22 01:34 PM
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When Feminism Is White Supremacy in Heels
/r/MensRights04/11/22 04:41 PM
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hm is it not similiar with the rape culture myth?
/r/MensRights04/11/22 10:24 AM
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If r/askMensRightsActivists was created, what questions would you ask?
/r/MensRights04/11/22 07:27 AM
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ok if we use your logic abortion should be illegal and both parents should be forced to support the child
/r/MensRights04/11/22 07:01 AM
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best case for parental surrender would be both have to take care of the abortion or put up for adoption obviously by law... my condolences...
/r/MensRights04/11/22 06:59 AM
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my guess is they "feel" like women issues get pushed aside similiar to we "think" men issues get pushed aside... we "the majority not the minor extremists" probably talk past each other but have the same end goal for our society... that said if you look at the political landscape the solutions differ most of the time... Mod of AskFeminists
/r/MensRights04/11/22 06:44 AM
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or example i see feminism advocating for society to spend its resources on making more female CEOs and millionaries, while ~70% of homeless people are male, this to me is a sociopathic humanistic abomination. if we advocate for public social care "which would reduce homelessness" there is no way they would oppose it...
/r/MensRights03/11/22 03:27 PM
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ok then we agree
/r/MensRights03/11/22 01:06 PM
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where would you start? education of our children? talking with your partner? hold our politicians accountable?
/r/MensRights03/11/22 01:05 PM
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i intended to say it would be beneficial to have more male teachers and female cops for example for various reasons but there is no point to force anybody... the safety net just ensures that everybody can live a decent life...
/r/MensRights03/11/22 01:00 PM
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Countries which are more gender neutral, where women have more rights and that are more egalitarian have a bigger "pay gap" and less women in STEM and leadership positions. Soo no, that doesn't work. If there is a safety net and money is not an important factor women choose to go into more traditional jobs, chose to work less, choose to not go into leadership roles. ​ Men don't get pregnant and only 20% of single parents are men. This gives men a competitive edge in the job market because a chil…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:39 PM
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i guess this is about paternalism regarding certain topics
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:39 AM
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hm i guess feminists would say all conservatives are patriarchs because of their views on family and raising children?
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:36 AM
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correct but we have to tell that to people if they are confused about positions of power that should be positions of competence...
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:35 AM
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Even though there are other physical activities where having a lower centre of gravity is advantageous (how people with larger hips are) or being flexible yet we don’t value those games. to be honest most games or sports are not valued if you take a look at the olympics or various leagues and how much players earn below the top league... most just want to see the best of the best and finals... if you look at the league of legends worlds there are a few teams dominating everybody and a part time …
/r/MensRights03/11/22 09:22 AM
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men vs women well if you word it that way why should we seperate women from men at all? (specially in esports) female lol teams
/r/MensRights03/11/22 08:43 AM
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a little bit flawed if the political party just promotes certain people able to be voted
/r/MensRights03/11/22 08:37 AM
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You mean the fact that all full time working women earn less money than all full time working men because they choose jobs that pay less, require less qualifications, are kess scalable, are less dangerous and also choose to work less hours than men EVEN when childless? this does not make sense if you know the adjusted gender pay gap... The adjusted gender pay gap shows what the gap between women's and men's pay would be if all other pay-related conditions were the same. These include qualificati…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 06:39 AM
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I agree it would be nice to have solutions too. But on the face no known options, would you suggest silence and do nothing? certainly not! thats why we have to push for gender neutral laws and refute everything based on double standards with solid evidence/sources... holding our politicians accountable for their work is also key... for example if somebody mentions the gender pay gap it is not wise to say there is no gender pay gap instead of it is misrepresented and adding a source to the adjust…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 06:36 AM
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i agree that men need a place to vent but where are the discussions about solutions? debating misandry + misogyny is part of that but most i see is misandry is bad... ​ debunking discrimination myths
/r/MensRights03/11/22 06:26 AM
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Like there are sports where men and women can compete equally but for some reason society focuses on the ones where cis men have an advantage. You see this with eSports being shit on. wrong and you can see that if you look at worlds of any game... it is the same issue with the "adjusted" gender pay gap... ​ Women can very much do equal work. agree pay accordingly to perfomance and competence ​ Child support struggles is a US thing, Canada acknowledges that people can opt out parenting for exampl…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 09:51 PM
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people also do not like it to allow abortion at all but the important part is will it be raised properly...
/r/MensRights02/11/22 08:55 PM
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What are you talking about? Women demand equal pay for the same job where men get paid more. Two firefighters that have the same rank and differ in gender should absolutely get paid the same or similarly. bad example but you are correct... idk why people "specially in the us" confuse the adjusted and unadjusted pay gap... The adjusted gender pay gap shows what the gap between women's and men's pay would be if all other pay-related conditions were the same. These include qualifications, job perfo…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 08:36 PM
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im fully aware of that and it is one of many points why i dislike quotas... do you have any proposal how to improve the family + how to raise children situation and do you know the difference between the adjusted/unadjusted pay gap? gender pay gap
/r/MensRights02/11/22 06:01 PM
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why should anyone refute obvious facts? gender pay gap
/r/MensRights02/11/22 05:27 PM
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Professional women athlete's are around as good as 15 year old boys for most sports (18 year old boys for marathons), yet women demand to be paid the same as professional men, not the 15 year old boys who regularly beat them. case dismissed - paid more than the men us soccer settles ​ Men and women make babies together, but 100% of the decision on the life of the foetus is legally the woman's. The man has no rights, but must pay child support if she chooses to have the child. Sometimes, a foetus…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 11:24 AM
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agree with you about venting, frustration, raising awarness and so on... did a little research about various topics discussed in this sub... systemic discrimination positive societal evolution womens opinion parental surrender parental surrender 2 custody gender neutral conscription sexual education mra's do not help men, feminists do "myth" women have it harder than men "myth" social care funding mandatory paternity test double standards open debate men vs women traits gender only places respec…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 11:10 AM
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do you think public social care + public health care or universal basic income could solve or at least reduce homelessness, crime rates, suicide? how can we solve the funding and bureaucracy problems revealed by european countries and their policies? obviously we have to do something about the draft/conscription but what is better all have to serve or nobody is forced to serve? if abortion is legal why are men not allowed to surrender parenthood aswell? ​ just for the start... ​ edit: i will cre…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 10:38 AM
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how about we debate about causes and solutions for todays problems? if i look at most topics in mra subs it is calling out or bashing of something instead of positive societal evolution... maybe i have a bad sample size and im wrong but i really wonder...
/r/MensRights02/11/22 10:12 AM
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how about we debate about causes and solutions for todays problems? if i look at most topics in mra subs it is calling out or bashing of something instead of positive societal evolution... maybe i have a bad sample size and im wrong but i really wonder... sub research
/r/MensRights02/11/22 10:09 AM
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by the way i think it is a disgrace for this sub that your comment gets downvoted
/r/MensRights02/11/22 07:08 AM
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it is too late for deleting and fixing the situation that way but you can keep it "most comments are critic of the article and its supporters" in mind if you continue to reply to other men here... the first responding men did not attack you and tried to explain after that it escalated...
/r/MensRights01/11/22 03:52 PM
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It frustrates me that no matter how women in this war act, they're devalued as weak human beings who rely exclusively on men. well and that is the problem... who exactly said women are weak and useless or did you interpret into it? most of the men here critic the article and people supporting it "in a non political correct way i give you that" and sometimes there are trolls you can call out... ​ If I do word my comments aggressively now, it's because I've gotten more than 50 attacks in the past …
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:44 PM
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you could have asked him before calling him a terrible human or not? im just guessing... read this and the parent comments
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:06 PM
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there are also comments explaining to you why that is while condemning this behavior...
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:01 PM
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do you feel like im attacking you? it sure feels like you are attacking me and men how you word your comments...
/r/MensRights01/11/22 11:57 AM
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he said defend yourself not die and the social contract is probably that men defend or protect specially women
/r/MensRights01/11/22 11:51 AM
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when women come on here and they don't say something like "i hate feminists, men deserve everything", they get so much undeserved backlash agree on most you said BUT you also have to differentiate as it seemed like she defended the article "by not condemning it" instead of her personal "ukrainian" experience... she also jumped on people who refused to fight for strangers and denied that women have the option to leave the country + are supported with millions by countries to start a new life whil…
/r/MensRights01/11/22 09:39 AM
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how is it terrible to refuse fighting for strangers and risking your own life? reflect on your comment pls...
/r/MensRights01/11/22 08:57 AM
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what do you think "are afforded all the care in the world" is? option to leave the country and millions by supporting countries to get a foothold in a new life id say... anyways i agree with you confronting dubious comments BUT i did not see how you condemn this article...
/r/MensRights01/11/22 08:08 AM
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is that all you have to contribute? i asked if we assume it is how do we follow that up in practice...
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:58 AM
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care to explain? why was feminism started in your opinion?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 07:11 AM
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do you think public social care + public health care or universal basic income could solve or at least reduce homelessness, crime rates, suicide? sadly i see no real way to solve work fatalaties... maybe open debate about various issues and how to solve them?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:55 AM
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if feminists alter the definitions of things "patriarchy, misandry etc" to support their narrative it becomes elusive and hard to refute...
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:50 AM
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would public social care or universal basic income reduce scenarios like that? any abusive relationship would traumatize children... that said single parent households and adoption is also somewhat iffy for developement...
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:43 AM
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if we smash patriarchy, remove capitalism and get rid of toxic masculinity are we then truly equal? do competence hierarchies just vanish then and women stop to become pregnant which is a loss of working hours and experience? how do you think should our economy work to create a qualitative good outcome at a good price for everybody? if we teach boys and girls gender is a social construct how does it look like in daily life and specially at schools if certain behaviors are punished and others enc…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:21 AM
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have no doubt that first and second wave feminism benefitted women "and men aswell" but today it is another story for modern biased hypersensitive feminism SADLY...
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:12 AM
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patriarchy interpretation well if you adjust the definition nobody can refute it as it becomes elusive
/r/MensRights31/10/22 06:03 AM
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oh i think you guys misunterstood what i tried to say here and thats probably why i get downvoted for my statement... i wanted to show why feminists change the definition of something to support their narrative of oppression... ​ feminist literally went against equity for fake equality do you think quotas and benefits for women are equity or equality? the issue is feminists have a double standard measuring it...
/r/MensRights31/10/22 05:56 AM
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i think you misunderstood what i try to say or you are trolling... there is no way to control hypergamy in a democratic country... that said there is no way to control how people spend their money but we can offer equal opportunities... men will benefit from public social care or universal basic income aswell and specially if you consider homelessness, crime rates and suicid... if parental surrender for men is legal and if prostitution is legal hypergamy probably becomes less... modern feminists…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:44 PM
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no conscription at all or men and women together public social care or universal basic income selection is pointless but abortion laws, custody laws, marrriage/divorce laws etc can be adjusted
/r/MensRights30/10/22 06:59 PM
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we have a nuclear winter before that happening...
/r/MensRights30/10/22 09:51 AM
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you should have quoted feminists explaining patriarchy by browsing their subs... else they say this is not what it means... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/wiki/faq/ patriarchy interpretation
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:59 AM
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patriarchy is open for interpretation by modern feminists and they advocate for equity not equality... if you read their subs you will see where the disconnect of double standards happens... ​ edit: i think you guys misunterstood what i tried to say here and thats probably why i get downvoted for my statement... i wanted to show why feminists change the definition of something to support their narrative of oppression... if feminists adjust the definition nobody can refute it as it becomes elusiv…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:12 AM
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FEMINIST MANIFESTO
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:01 AM
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FEMINIST MANIFESTO
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:57 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yek1nr/comment/itzgb05/
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:57 AM
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problematic if interests conflict with each other like at the gender pay gap, abortion and a few other things... problematic if privilege + oppression are measured by a double standard and the definition of patriarchy is open for interpretation... do you know the difference between equality and equity?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:55 AM
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equality and equity is not the same...
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:42 PM
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FEMINIST MANIFESTO how should we unite exactly?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:40 PM
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if you are against conscription and basic military training how would you organize and use military? (taxes are also somewhat forced or could you do it on a volunteer basis aswell?)
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:31 PM
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that is not accurate enough as taking time off is still missing which includes pregnancy and possible discrimination should be below -1%
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:21 PM
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not existing and presenting it in a misleading way is indeed a difference...
/r/MensRights29/10/22 01:51 PM
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hm i would show the entire court case... CASE DISMISSED - paid more than the men
/r/MensRights29/10/22 01:23 PM
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Kate Andrews on the Gender Pay Gap, Feminism, Socialism & the NHS modern feminists tend to change definitions on the fly and let things open for interpretation... there is a wage gap but it is presented in a misleading way and you can prove that if you look at the data from the ministry of equality from luxembourg and their 1% pay gap + their policies...
/r/MensRights29/10/22 01:21 PM
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which would include quotas and equity in general
/r/MensRights29/10/22 01:06 PM
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to be fair he did to some extent after a little persuasion if you would have followed the parent comment... there are several sources on the gender pay gap and if we provide more "specially from the eu" than one maybe even feminists understand the causes behind it... that said this should not be about left vs right it should be about human rights... else it boils down to nobody is credible because of untrustworthy funding and biased data...
/r/MensRights29/10/22 07:57 AM
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do americans know about the adjusted and unadjusted pay gap?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 07:46 AM
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then call it out here in detail why for example the posted video is spreading misinformation to help all genders similiar to what you did now
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:06 PM
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why did you not provide a more adequate source then in your post like i did? just calling it a fascist channel without refuting it in detail does not help...
/r/MensRights28/10/22 04:53 PM
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cherry picking is also not helpful for womens rights and mens rights to solve reals issues
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:29 PM
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Kate Andrews debates the gender pay gap on BBC
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:56 PM
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countries in the eu already know all reasons for the gender pay gap... specially if you look at luxembourg with their 1% pay gap and their policies at the ministry of equality... there are also court cases of the us women national soccer team because of pay discrimination... CASE DISMISSED - paid more than the men ​ personally i believe most are aware but press this narrative to gain... 1.⁠access to abortion ⁠2.universal birth control 3.⁠science based sex ed 4.⁠affordable day care 5.⁠flexible ho…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:24 PM
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yea true it is almost the same with crimes... even if you punish with a death penalty they would never vanish... how would compassion for women look like in daily life? currently men "good fellas" would avoid women out of fear to do or say something wrong... you can see that beginning in elementary school were boys are punished for their behavior and girls know they are protected even if they punch or kick a boy there will be no retribution most of the time... girls tend to be more subtle and ar…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:00 AM
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it is somewhat similiar with boys + girls and their behavior in schools... that said who tells them how to act on certain things like solving conflicts or strive for something etc?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:40 AM
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you ignore sources and provided no definition for toxic masculinity or patriarchy aswell as no counter arguments hence no discussion
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:28 PM
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the point "feminists are hypocritical and have double standards" was already presented and the sources followed
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:16 PM
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im not suprised
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yek1nr/comment/itzgb05/
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:06 PM
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patriarchy rape culture dating preference gender pay gap controlling sexuality crime against humanity gender roles body hair men should suck it up red flags Is there any societal obligation to help socially inept men? read some of the comments and tell me there are no double standards for equity... just as example men are disgusting if they prefer fit young women "adults but it gets blurred by them for emotional manipulation and who asks for an id if you try to flirt" but it is fine if women cho…
/r/MensRights27/10/22 01:10 PM
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1.jordan peterson (by a mile) 2.ben shapiro 3.matt walsh do you know camille paglia? i think petersons arguments about competence hierarchies or free speech are correct... however i disagree with him on public health care or public social care "equity" but im aware that funding said things are an issue aswell as bureaucracy...
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:18 PM
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what is the point of civilisation and the united nations in your opinion?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:53 PM
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correct
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:15 PM
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venting in a debate about solutions to important problems is not productive but it is alright generally... as you can see we can talk about everything but keep in mind somebody might vent at an inappropiate time because of personal bad experiences... anyways i think a fundraiser might not be enough for a public health care or social care system and similiar things for the whole country...
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:55 PM
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ukraine or taiwan or israel probably would avoid war if possible... you can let women decide if they want to be protected or not? well i understand that from a biological standpoint but our civilisation can get past that...
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:27 PM
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well the issue is feminists and mra's fight with each other instead of debating solutions to problems... that said how would you fund and organize equity? ​ You mentioned wealthy single/married men should not pay for something they dont benefit from. actually i tried to say jumping in somebodies face and scream smash patriarchy will not solve said issues... if you explain the benefits of a solid social structure the effect is vastly superior...
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:05 PM
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i have multiple questions here... 1.why should we fight any war that is not defensive? 2.protection of women is paternalism so why not let them choose? 3.who does consider men as expendable exactly?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:58 PM
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no need to cancel woke movies or shows as they fail financially anyways
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:24 AM
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Conservative stance on Tate (not my stance just for clarification)
/r/MensRights23/10/22 10:43 AM
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simple answer: double standards ​ more in detail answer: a lot of women respond with emotion and anecdotal evidence to various topics... some women are aware that they would lose rational arguments or fights and have to come up with a way to combat that... personally im baffled how they measure privilege and oppression in democratic countries...
/r/MensRights23/10/22 08:58 AM
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thank you for the productive conversation
/r/MensRights22/10/22 08:06 PM
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yea maybe at the same rate men enter social jobs but i know that we have to accept various facts... by the way did you notice how you just mentioned boys have to change but said nothing about girls?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:40 PM
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you really think that is enough to bring more women into jobs like oil rig work, coal mine work, brick laying, fishing, sanitation work, police, firefighting and so on? why should men work there if women refuse to do it?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 12:56 PM
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Perhaps raising young boys without negative responses to their emotions may result in men studying more fields like medicine and psychology? i think this is really complicated... it has something to do how various fields are funded like private vs public "basic education has to be affordable for everbody" or how men and women compete in competence hierarchies and a few other things... if we maximise free choice we also maximise different outcomes and pregnancy holds women back at competing "men …
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:23 AM
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do you know why female dominated fields pay less or why there is a "no matter if adjusted or unadjusted" pay gap? luxembourgs government has the data about it... ​ it would be desirable if more men enter social jobs similiar to more women entering political parties...
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:56 AM
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which would be surrender if you are able to read
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:54 PM
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Our patriarchal system thought women were weak and needed protecting by a man. This puts women under the thumb of their fathers and husbands, but as a negative consequence, men are the only ones allowed in the military. It wasn’t until 1948 that women were even allowed in the US military (thanks to feminists pushing for this), and for the next several decades there were restrictions on what roles and levels they could be within the military. quotas and benefits to achieve equity is protection of…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:02 PM
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hope to win vs what? if no soldiers are there to fight it will become easy to invade... lets say feminists abolish the military and spend the money on other things...
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:45 PM
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if soldiers refuse to fight it sounds like a revolution or government overthrow
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:30 PM
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this is probably about if a conscription is needed and if women should take their part aswell...
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:27 PM
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if we talk about the us facing an invasion what would the other option be? let the chinese or russians take control to live under them or flee to a country that will fall next?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:23 PM
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thats why it is important to shut it down with solid evidence for other members and silent lurkers
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:59 PM
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The governement cant regulate our relationships with our partners it takes 2 to make a baby and you take responsibility for when it happens. well it does with various laws if you think about it and a lot of them are not exactly supporting equality (just for example custody)
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:02 AM
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Giving birth is not a governement benefit nor do women require such a benefit to give birth. a free democratic country has the responsibility to enforce equality of opportunity for everybody and the next generation pays taxes... a women giving birth is dependant which reduces her opportunities = the obvious choice for women would be to never become pregnant if your partner is not wealthy and pray that the relationship will work till the children are 18... do not focus on the military alone if we…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:53 AM
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The governement should provide benefits to those who choose to serve that are worth risking your life for. which would include giving birth... that said how do you want to fund that? high taxes would also be forced up on us but could also fix homlessness, crime rates and a few other things... the problem is bureaucrats wasting money and time...
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:19 AM
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https://mega.gouvernement.lu/en.html do a little research about their 1% gender pay gap...
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:20 AM
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I personally believe no one should get drafted because it should be a choice. as a matter of fact, since we wanna talk about freedom so much here in the US, not getting drafted should be the default, if freedom is important. how would you organize the military? would be interesting to see how dictatorships will respond to understaffed forces... ​ if you have to force people to fight for our country, what's that say about our country? taxes are also not optional
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:55 AM
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OP is claiming it has been disproven multiple times, I'm just asking for him, or someone else, to show me examples of it being disproven. you have to read the evidence which was presented to you multiple times but you ignored it... working on fixing various complicated equality problems by a government "multiple democratic countries work on it" is prove enough...
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:29 AM
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read the following content equality vs equity
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:25 AM
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read the following content equality vs equity
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:25 AM
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are you implying women have no accountability/responsibility at the age of 18 and have to be protected?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 04:25 PM
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The entire oppressive patriarchy, gender wage gap and a bunch of other feminist manifesto is all assumed and imagined. well economics, math and analyzing statistics properly is hard... ;-)
/r/MensRights20/10/22 03:53 PM
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In 2021, there were 144,300 reported rape cases in the United States. This figure also includes attempts and assaults to commit rape, but unforced statutory rape and other sex offenses are excluded. you can do the math yourself for better understanding
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:35 PM
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that would be one point of many sadly... ​ just for your information im pro choice and no american...
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:18 PM
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you should look at the crowder video about rape culture i posted here
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:13 PM
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rape statistic you can get the same from the fbi directly if you want
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:11 PM
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Rape Culture you may think whatever you want about crowder but he is spot on here CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey VS FBI rape statistic In 2021, there were 144,300 reported rape cases in the United States. This figure also includes attempts and assaults to commit rape, but unforced statutory rape and other sex offenses are excluded. do the math
/r/MensRights19/10/22 01:00 PM
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CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey
/r/MensRights19/10/22 12:44 PM
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narrow minded opinions and spreading misinformation should not go uncorrected i agree... that said feminists and mra's are both terrible at it if you read the various subs and their point of views...
/r/MensRights19/10/22 09:03 AM
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personally i would go back to tribalism and why men and women join a group to benefit each other if we talk about history
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:02 AM
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It's a privilege to be banned from the military. actually it is paternalism
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:59 AM
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read the following content equality vs equity
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:45 AM
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equality vs equity
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:38 AM
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equality vs equity
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:36 AM
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problematic if interests and decisions conflict with each other like at the gender pay gap/competence hierarchies or reproductive rights... that said i would not call trolls or incels mens rights activists... equality vs equity
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:28 AM
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take a look at the ministry of equality from luxembourg... their data about the 1% "adjusted" gender pay gap and its causes/solutions...
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:16 PM
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easy solution for him to not marry easy solution for her to not get pregnant combine that to choose a partner that fits your lifestyle or move on
/r/MensRights18/10/22 12:10 PM
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problematic if interests and decisions conflict with each other like at the gender pay gap... that said i would not call trolls or incels mens rights activists...
/r/MensRights18/10/22 11:46 AM
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pregnancy and everything connected to it is the main reason for the "adjusted" gender pay gap and why true equality is impossible... look at the 1% pay gap of luxembourg and their ministry of equality for more details... (add the source here as soon as i find it again) we have to give women benefits "variable in democratic countries" to negate the loss of working hours and pay them less on average for better working conditions to fund it... that said nobody hinders women to take on the competiti…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:45 AM
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it is easier to blame everything on patriarchy than verifying the real causes for various problems...
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:08 PM
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talking about the peterson and morgan video he cried in and said something about incels are a minority needing help
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:45 PM
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why i did say nothing about dv survivors? reading feminist subs as a man "specially about consent or rape culture or toxic masculinity or patriarchy" can influence some peoples ideas... you ignored my questions by the way... maybe you did confuse something here on your crusade smashing the patriarchy...
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:32 PM
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do you know the jordan peterson and olivia wilde incel drama? anyways our views on how a man or woman should act and how we educate our children based on that can become kinda bizarre...
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:05 PM
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how can we achieve equality with pregnancy in mind in your opinion? how can we achieve equity with double standards in mind in your opinion? ​ Idk where ppl in this sub got the idea that every toxic opinion deirves from feminism probably because they read feminist subs and bad personal experiences...
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:00 PM
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well the problem is changing definitions to fit your narrative... i saw multiple posts in feminists subs talking about consent or rape culture and with overwhelming majority speaking to stranger women is like pot hitting in a minefeld by their standards...
/r/MensRights16/10/22 07:23 PM
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mention it to your partner and wait for their response
/r/MensRights16/10/22 10:30 AM
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What is so extreme about this? nothing... the problems are the double standards... that said some people bring awarness in an aggressive and emotional way which will be exploited to negate your argument...
/r/MensRights16/10/22 10:27 AM
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seems like they did a good job raising you
/r/MensRights15/10/22 11:28 AM
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I think it’s men and women. agree
/r/MensRights15/10/22 10:40 AM
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does that matter if we talk about ALL FEMINISTS strive for arbitary benefits? correct would be modern feminism evolved into a hategroup based on double standards... Kate Andrews on the Gender Pay Gap, Feminism, Socialism & the NHS
/r/MensRights15/10/22 09:57 AM
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Mod of AskFeminists ​ Kate Andrews on the Gender Pay Gap, Feminism, Socialism & the NHS
/r/MensRights15/10/22 09:53 AM
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to be fair the fact based causes for the wage gap should be thaught in school... that way the biased double standards might vanish sooner or later...
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:39 AM
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do you think your comment is helpful? pregnancy is the main reason why women can not compete vs men in our working world... loss of working hours leads to a power/financial imbalance and you can not fix that with less working hours for everybody... if you do not believe me check the "adjusted" gender pay gaps from europe and specially the 1% of luxembourg...
/r/MensRights15/10/22 07:08 AM
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are orphanages not funded by state/tax? this topic "everything around pregnancy" is so difficult to navigate...
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:55 AM
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the main thing here is if the woman is aware of it and respects it OR if she is ignorant
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:40 AM
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do you know bjorn lomberg?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:34 AM
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agree but good luck with balancing pregnancy on a fair basis
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:32 AM
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probably because feminist protest and brandmark mens rights to be anti women... you can see that if you "for example" talk about the gender pay gap and why female dominated fields pay less or custody in a feminist sub vs in a mens rights sub...
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:27 AM
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Feminism: in conversation with Camille Paglia
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:21 AM
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key is how you define femininity and masculinity but feminists say this is a social construct and change/adjust the definition to fit their narrative
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:16 AM
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pls add modern/radical feminists else it is not the truth and seems like misinformation
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:14 AM
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how do you equalize pregnancy on a fair basis and its effect on our society?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:11 AM
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AND censorship/canceling if you disagree on something no matter the evidence
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:08 AM
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i believe in equality of opportunity and im aware that certain people spread misinformation + double standards on various topics in the feminist subs and also in this sub... ​ a lot of feminists promote equity or equality of outcome = arbitary benefits for women
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:54 PM
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how do you measure equality with a double standard?
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:49 PM
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agree on that but it does not answer my question
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:14 PM
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how do you measure equality with a double standard?
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:06 PM
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how do you measure equality with a double standard?
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:01 PM
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agree
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:51 PM
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Feminism: in conversation with Camille Paglia
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:41 PM
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it is about notification to prevent further punishments and to let the girl know you will fight back... obviously most teachers will do nothing as they did not see her actions but if it happens multiple times they remember... i would tell the teacher "maybe the principal" you will defend yourself against herassment and talk about it with your parents...
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:36 PM
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1.tell her to stop 2.tell your teacher 3.consequences as everybody is informed
/r/MensRights14/10/22 11:27 AM
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Literally in my country the last feminist protest included paternity leave for men. great ​ you get belittled by feminits on the street on a daily basis? last week a random dude grabbed my ass and ran off when I was at the train station. The police berated me for not running after him and taking a picture. I also have been followed several times and catcalled. Didnt even post about it bc it's nothing new. would say by women "ofcourse not all women" but that you can not imagine it tells everythin…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 11:07 AM
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did they specifiy? anyways... (pls do not tell me the obvious it is not all women or feminists) anything related to custody abuse in any form fraud blackmail the constitution "specially equal protection" need more? that said do you know about the lawsuit the us womens national soccer team had because of pay discrimination?
/r/MensRights14/10/22 10:34 AM
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well you can discuss it here and organise your own protest, or a petition or raise general awareness without putting anyone else down. any effort like that will be branded as attack on womens rights and you can see that if you try to talk about it in feminist subs and earn massive downvotes followed by a shadow ban... that said the first thing that should be done is paternity leave or equal parental leave and equal custody in my opinion... ​ what good are you doing by complaining about the bad f…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 07:23 PM
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it is a flawed argument as the reverse "women circumvent the law" is true aswell... they do not understand the double standard of oppression or privilege and have no clue about economy... somewhat pointless to prove them wrong if they are too ignorant to check the evidence properly themselves... prime example is the gender pay gap and why female dominated fields pay less...
/r/MensRights13/10/22 06:36 PM
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if people protest homeless shelters what should we do about it? personally i think most issues are connected to pregnancy and parenthood if we talk about equality... men and women can not compete on a fair basis and privilege or oppression are measured by a double standard... the thing is a lot of feminists tend to silence everything they do not argee with no matter the evidence... prime example is the gender pay gap and why female dominated fields pay less...
/r/MensRights13/10/22 01:15 PM
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well if you think about the lgbtq+ topics they divide themselves... feminists think there is no such thing as natural/biological masculine or feminine traits and everything is a social construct... that said if you talk about human rights start with parental leave and how pregnancy prevents equality because of double standards...
/r/MensRights13/10/22 12:20 PM
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actually the main obstacles are funding and people protesting their locations...
/r/MensRights13/10/22 11:42 AM
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yes... they mainly compare female and male teachers with teachers and female and male nurses with nurses etc...
/r/MensRights12/10/22 01:40 PM
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do you know the difference between the unadjusted gender pay gap and the adjusted gender pay gap? you can cut all the things you named and compare equal work with equal education... feminists complain that fields that are female dominated earn less but dismiss the on average less working hours and supply+demand... there is a ton of data on this topic and there is a reason why luxembourg has a pay gap of 1%... my assessment was about the lack of source based facts on certain topics...
/r/MensRights12/10/22 01:32 PM
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personally i think most "equality/equity" problems are connected to pregnancy or parenthood
/r/MensRights12/10/22 12:31 PM
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If you think that the reason why women get paid less is because they get pregnant and have to care for children, than guess what? Feminists agree with you. That’s why we want: ⁠1.access to abortion 2.⁠universal birth control 3.⁠science based sex ed ⁠4.affordable day care ⁠5.flexible hours 6.paid family leave for all parents 7.⁠and for men to be more involved in the parenting process.* *which would also have the benefit of men developing closer bonds with their children and working less, leading …
/r/MensRights11/10/22 07:50 PM
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in my opinion feminists think patriarchy is the competition in our societies... it starts with grades in school and ends with how much money you bring in... ofcourse on average you fall behind if you have less hours to invest into a career because of pregnancy...
/r/MensRights11/10/22 06:58 PM
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agree
/r/MensRights11/10/22 12:42 PM
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single moms who are better without an abusive man? Seriously? Families can be any combination of related people. would agree with you if you would have written single parent without an abusive partner... this is all about equal rights but we can argue about points of view regarding raising children... that said im aware of various people derailing the actual topics and their solutions for issues...
/r/MensRights11/10/22 12:14 PM
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you confuse something here as i never said this and copeharderhun said "that women were always like this and that feminism did not change them but showed their true colors" actually... check the video at minute 11...
/r/MensRights10/10/22 03:11 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Things_Women_and_People_A_Meta-Analysis_of_Sex_Differences_in_Interests thats a little bit dry so i provided a video from jordan peterson talking about it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iudkPi4_sY (minute 11)
/r/MensRights10/10/22 02:17 PM
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by the way where is your "copeharderhun" evidence including sources? you ignore all evidence presented to you so there is no point to argue or debate with you...
/r/MensRights10/10/22 01:35 PM
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Camille Paglia - Women should regard men with a mix of gratitude and rational fear
/r/MensRights10/10/22 12:59 PM
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Jordan B. Peterson / Full interview / SVT/TV/Skavlan (minute 11)
/r/MensRights10/10/22 12:28 PM
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how would you remove competition between genders "patriarchy" in any economic system or education system? (with pregnancy and upbringing in mind)
/r/MensRights09/10/22 08:55 AM
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Men created dominance hierarchies so that everyone had a pecking order. competence hierarchies are inevitable but they tend to become power corrupted... ​ Worst of all, men will still defer rather than compete with a woman. men and women can not compete on a fair basis because of pregnancy...
/r/MensRights09/10/22 08:51 AM
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i asked what a patriarch is as a person not the system but whatever
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:40 PM
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did i say there is a patriarchy? i said we live in a competence hierarchy which tends to be power corrupted...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 10:27 AM
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what is a patriarch in you opinion? well so we basically agree but argue about solutions to various problems...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 09:25 AM
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if they got individually asked and agree to be protected it is like signing a contract but currently it seems like we skip that part... you could argue voting is that contract but that system is also power corrupted and a democracy is heavily dependant on the education of their citizens... how does a state protect their citizens? -military -police -fire service -hospitals etc ​ at the end competence hierarchies are inevitable but sadly they tend to be power corrupted and pregnancy + parenthood i…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:41 AM
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protection = paternalism specially if they have no say in it... anyways you seem to take this personal and i try to talk about it objectivly "you/we = our society" to have a civil debate...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:18 AM
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where and when did the patriarchy start in your opinion? the main reason any system benefits men is because of pregnancy but you could say the same about nature and the food chain... a competence hierarchy is inevitable but sadly they tend to be power corrupted in our societies...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:06 AM
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if you tell women they are not allowed to do the same for whatever reason it is not equal opportunity... biased upbringing probably starting at elementary school while girls and boys start to compete vs each other and holds back both... ​ that said i think our world is competence hierarchy dominated but sadly it tends to be power corrupted...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 07:45 AM
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would guess it is all about free choice and equal opportunity "without strings attached" = protection seems like paternalism ​ that said in my opinion most feminists talk about equal outcome which seems impossible to measure a fair balance for pregnancy...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 07:31 AM
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to be fair they would agree to lowering it for men but protested rising it for women... similiar to conscription for nobody instead of everybody...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 07:21 AM
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you see no problem with modern movies and badly written characters or stories?
/r/MensRights06/10/22 03:00 PM
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Story is interesting, when you protray genuine, realistic personages, who are multi-dismentional. When you make them flat and with no progression, story makes you yawn. well they criticise that it is too much the same abuse against woman, too much the same objectification and the same story like the hero safes a helpless maid... the movie alita battle angel seems like a breath of fresh air in that regard...
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:52 AM
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Feminism: in conversation with Camille Paglia
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:38 AM
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Protest Over Plans For Shelter On "Billionaire's Row" Proposed men's shelters in Westchester Square irks some neighbors Hundreds Block Traffic To Protest Koreatown Homeless Shelter Residents go to school to protest homeless shelter location This LA Musician Built $1,200 Tiny Houses for the Homeless. Then the City Seized Them. this or something else? keep in mind the main reasons "checking the sources on that data is interesting" are probably the assumption males are predators, criminals, violent…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:19 AM
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in my opinion they think women can not compete in capitalism because of pregnancy... they want to get rid of competition "at least between genders" and push for equity at the end... that said how do you measure a fair balance for pregnancy?
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:08 AM
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in my opinion they are aware of various issues but have no clue about economy or how a fair balance is measured...
/r/MensRights06/10/22 06:17 AM
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Equality in pay for the same job with the same experience as a man. which still does not negate the pay gap "because pregnancy = loss of working hours" but you can check the 1% pay gap of luxembourg to see which policies probably do ​ Free health care products in restrooms for women is a good fight. why not free healthcare for everybody? probably because of funding...
/r/MensRights06/10/22 05:41 AM
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KaliTheCat "mod of askfeminists" (topic - what mra get right) I think many of their complaints are legitimate-- that poor men are often exploited for dangerous, cheap labor; that there isn't much social or cultural support for male victims of sexual and domestic violence; that hegemonic masculinity can be stifling and fragile; that men and boys are lonelier than ever before; that male infant circumcision is still legal and widely practiced in some areas; etc. However, instead of directing their …
/r/MensRights06/10/22 04:48 AM
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no... im just annoyed as we had and have the same debates in europe... in my opinion it is extremly naive specially if we talk about equality of opportunity but aim for equality of outcome without a fair measurement as basis...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 05:26 PM
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defund your military "police aswell" and you will see it yourself...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 05:18 PM
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sure... you do not need an insurance i guess...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 05:08 PM
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well europe is heavily dependant on the usa military "till they spend their fair share on military aswell" because of nato... there are certainly unnecessary wars but the military is like an insurance... guess what the pacifist in europe said till putin invaded ukraine and now even sweden and finland join nato... wait till china claims taiwan...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:41 PM
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thank you
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:26 PM
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may i ask you how you would tackle this issue if there is a need for the military? why fund it at all if we could use the spent money on something else? europe experiences the consequences right now...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:25 PM
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do you have a source for that? i remember steven crowder said something like this on his change my mind videos and added fire service + that women did not want the vote because they feared losing their privileges at home as mothers...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:12 PM
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are "free choice" not the magical words necessary?
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:39 AM
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may i ask you what is the difference between toxic behavior in general VS misandry/misogyny in your opinion? ​ starting from the beginning of mankind and tribalism we can say that there was a reason for gender roles that might "still arguing about raising children" be unnecessary today... we did combat survival of the fittest by forming societies but we suck at setting a fair balance "specially since the industrial revolution" and do not know how to measure it... that said each nation evolved in…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:00 AM
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one of the issue of islam is that it thinks everything is pre destined. i did reasearch a lot about islam and as far as i can tell most ringleaders or preachers interpret passages to fit their narrative... it is almost the same for dictatorships to gather followers and keep them on track by fear and ignorance... one example would be if you want to leave islam and who punishes you for that in the name of allah...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:10 AM
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do you really think that this is because of islam or oppressive dictators protecting their power? (the old testament of the bible was not that much better)
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:30 AM
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these cultures perished... i do not know which sources you use daily but just narrow minded people argue like you do... what is oppression in your opinion? certainly not that women are the property of men... (sarcasm)
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:18 AM
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agree
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:41 AM
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where are the sources for his claims? (as far as i can tell it is his opinion)
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:20 AM
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true ​ most of the time people abuse statistics, studies and surveys to support their narrative...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 05:03 AM
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your source?
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:57 AM
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do you know that luxembourg has a pay gap of 1%? i wonder why...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:55 AM
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You have 100 men and 100 women working in three occupations: A, B and C. Occupation A has 50 men earning $100 and 10 women earning $110. Occupation B has 40 men earning $50 and 40 women earning $55. Occupation C has 10 men earning $30 and 50 women earning $33. In this hypothetical scenario, all the women are being paid 10% more than all the men in all three jobs. The men, taken altogether, are earning an average of $73. The women are earning an average of $49.50. Even though the women are being …
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:40 AM
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data from luxembourg "1% pay gap" show the real reasons for the pay gap and that said you can compare data from all european countries on this topic...
/r/MensRights05/10/22 04:33 AM
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your statement is true and is connected to the same issue... we do not know how to set a fair balance for competetion between genders and men + women can never be equal because of pregnancy... to be honest i think it is funny how i get downvoted for my statement as this topic triggers both sides no matter how you phrase it...
/r/MensRights04/10/22 07:10 AM
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you do not have to repeat yourself as my response was a general statement on the abuse of studies, statistics and surveys...
/r/MensRights04/10/22 07:05 AM
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agree
/r/MensRights03/10/22 07:02 PM
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not a native speaker so thank you
/r/MensRights03/10/22 04:09 PM
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I think this is confusing human rights with company necessities... is it really sexist for the company to be worried about its investments( I think this Is a fair if not crass worry for a employee) I also don't see a way around this issue... i gues it depends on in which society you "or your family" want to live in ​ And for education I stand by make it profitable and men would flock probably have to talk about various funding ideas and the whole education system but fair enough ​ but only in a …
/r/MensRights03/10/22 09:34 AM
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agree
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:57 AM
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Up to that point yes they do if they are single mostly but there is still this bias "you could become pregnant" within companies... ​ how would you solve it where it's fair there are several options like shared parental leave... that said im aware about basic education for everybody "funded by state/tax" destroys payment similiar to on average less working hours or bad supply + demand choices in your life... basically it is all about rising working conditions for everybody instead of maximum pro…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:53 AM
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women lose working hours because of pregnancy = there is no fair measurement to equalize pregnancy = on average financial/power imbalance
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:30 AM
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men running the world are running it for woman in favour of woman..... sounds like paternalism
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:25 AM
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do women really have equal opportunities if some of them have to become pregnant to avoid human extinction? the loss of working hours because of pegnancy leads to a financial and power disadvantage on average... personally i dispise quotas but i understand that a lacking representation specially in parliaments increases this issue... btw the same is true for teachers lacking male representation... ​ Camille Paglia & Jordan Peterson
/r/MensRights03/10/22 06:44 AM
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human rights activism is for all... your assumptions are flawed if you do not even know camille paglia or other first or second wave feminists... that said i agree on movements and companies or political parties tend to be corrupted... anyways i think we miss the point here as we are talking about understanding each others world view... how do you measure fairness for men and women in our competetive economy?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 06:18 AM
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all of them or some confused radicals that use surveys and anecdotal evidence to prove their point? do you know camille paglia?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:56 AM
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Studies show the % of you have to be able to use the data correctly "not surveys in that instance" and a lot of people are not or abuse it... that said if you talk about this topic pls use fbi data...
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:30 AM
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oh there is a fair share of misinformation and bias on both sides... i could post irrational attacks from both subs using words like nazi or screaming the opposing person down and similiar things...
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:24 AM
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what is the difference between toxic behavior in general vs misandry/misogyny? anyways double standards suck...
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:17 AM
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Females have been the protected class since time began. how about stopping your protection and let them choose their own way even if it leads to demise?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:13 AM
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well i would say they talk about our competetive economy and on average how they fall behind because of pregnancy... that said they are terrible at presenting problems/solutions and tend to become emotional very fast about it...
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:11 AM
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well on average women can not compete vs men in our economic system if some of them have to become pregnant to avoid human extinction... why are we still talking about equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome and confuse them? past discriminations just matter if parents still educate their children that way...
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:04 AM
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well on average women can not compete vs men in our economic system if some of them have to become pregnant to avoid human extinction... (on average loss of working hours = financial/power imbalance)
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:03 AM
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so what would be your solution? remove women from the military if there are more positions than on the frontline? how do other nations deal with it like israel?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:00 AM
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