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Sounds like hyper-masculine to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:57 PM
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No, it's because the only solution is mass subjugation and rape and that's too fucking realistic. You hit us right on the massive fear button, because if yall decide en masse to solve it, we're getting raped again. Every progress, done in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:15 AM
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I have a very high preference for the 2nd category, yes. But if I'm meeting a guy in the wild, I'm expecting him to only be capable of doing the 3rd category, unless I see character signs saying otherwise. Category 1 and 4 are...temporary arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:03 PM
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Bare minimum if I'm pampered as a fucking princess: 2/10. Bare minimum in actual 50/50 relationship, like actually, none of this "I work more, so I should do less in the household, because I'm providing...but let's split bills 50/50" and all my needs are met in the relationship, none of this "you are just too demanding": 2/10 but has to be totally my type, or random 4/10. Bare minimum in actual 50/50 relationship, but also 50/50 on meeting my needs and I can go find other ways to fulfill the nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:38 PM
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The way I see it, women's attraction, is that it's like a button that's either standard shielded or they grow up learning to shield that button. And so they go through life, experiencing almost no attraction, until they choose to lift the shield or the shield gets listed through other means like using alcohol. And when talking about these other qualities that can convince a woman to date you, like money and status, it's not that these are more attractive qualities, it's that if you have these go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:41 AM
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Fat isn't as important to women as it is to men. It's important, don't get me wrong, if you are fat and you lose weight: hella better odds. But when have you ever heard women go "As long as he's not fat, it's all good" and how often have you heard a man say something like that? You can't score a guy a 5, based on criteria that you use for women. And you can't score a guy a 5, based on how much you want to have his body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:27 AM
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A pattern that I've noticed as I've gotten older is every new relationship is with someone even more fat, ugly, and promiscuous than the last one. Meanwhile, I'm significantly LESS fat (still room for improvement) than I used to be and significantly more wealthy. (Disclaimer, generalized statements coming up) Women start off thinking that they really need a relationships and that there's something wrong with them if they don't. So they start off HIGH competitive with other women. And as they gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:23 AM
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Maybe I don’t get the nuance. I’m currently in the process of being diagnosed with autism, so maybe I just really am not getting it. 70% of autistic men, don't even get 1 relationship in a lifetime. I don't think that you should be extrapolating your experiences as a representation of "most men", because that's a huge number and outlier. If you are autistic, then you can not take your experiences and make gendered conclusions about them anymore. You have NO idea what's because of the autism or p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:10 AM
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I'm saying that if girls can't walk around without getting fondled, then something needs to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:16 PM
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Now does this seem normal to you? Doesn't it seem abit too much and redundanf? If you can't keep your hands to yourself: then yeah that's normal. Why are men constantly going like "Well why can't you just get fondled and shrug it off? Why do we need to deal with it. It's not a big issue. Just shrug it off.". Solutions to the problem: you want too much! It's selfish and it's greedy And all I'm hearing is a guy that's upset that he can't fondle anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:25 PM
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Men say that every time. It's always "women want too much, this makes shit unfair". There's NO situation where men would go "OK, yeah that's fair.". 1940s, women wanting the right to vote: "Women already have so much power in the household, men want to please their women, giving them the right to vote would be unfair and giving women power over men".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:17 PM
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Bullshit. Like I don't get why the men here just fucking lie. This isn't even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:13 PM
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No, that's not what he implied I was saying. He kept putting words in my mouth, I wasn't playing the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:12 PM
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I was actually asking him to filter. He kept making it about dates. He thinks getting the date part is important, like it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:11 PM
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The stats for 2022 in Europe on tinder, are 9 men for every 1 woman. The majority of women, do not want casual sex, the majority of men, do want casual sex. So if you are looking for casual sex, you are kinda-ish looking at a competition between 18 men for 1 women if you live in Europe. Probably a fuckton worse then that. Sure, there's women who want casual sex. Loads even. Finding 1 is a needle in a haystack though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:18 AM
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No, he's not actually trying to understand. In the beginning I was making clear arguments, with examples for clarification, etc etc. He ignored all of that. He changes the subject whenever he can't use a standard reply or he goes "I'm not reading that" and he just jumps back to the old topic whenever the new topic gets him stuck too. There's plenty of people here, that act in the way that you are suggesting, but not this guy. This guy just wanted to argue and win. If he wanted to win then he wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:25 AM
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I was trying to be clear, until he went all "I'm not reading that, that's too much text". At that point, it became obvious that he didn't care to have an honest debate, so I wasn't gonna put the effort in. How did you read all of what he wrote and not notice that he just wants to win? I was still putting that effort in with the other dude that keeps replying, because he was still trying to have an honest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:09 AM
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I wouldn't exactly call it willingly, because I've seen women dive head-first into a mistake, THAT THEY KNOW IS A MISTAKE, because of tingles. But.... the chore-part comes from the dating apps. Filtering IRL isn't that big of an issue, because you meet what? 1 new guy per week on average if you are actually trying to meet new guys? That's like an attractive male experience on a dating app, that's manageable. If you aren't trying, you can go months without meeting new guys. Then you are in the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:27 AM
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First off, I want to point out that I haven't said anything in agreement or disagreement about that so far. But in my opinion, IRL you have the tingles and the tingles can push you to decide to give things up. Like, the feeling of "omg, I'm so into this guy, I guess I can have like 1 kid" only happens IRL. So filtering on an app is 100% clinical and based on what you actually want out of life and not a lot of compromising. And filtering IRL is heavily influenced by hormones and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:54 AM
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Have you ever tried to remain on the discussion point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:46 AM
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The women experience is that it's easy to get casual sex and very difficult to find a partner. Which men often times deny: because look at those matches!!! And what I was talking about, what the dude wasn't doing during his test, was acting like a woman. We need to do all the filtering of men, because men have so few matches on dating apps, that they'll accept any woman that matches with them. Very understandable btw, I'm not going "fuck them for doing that", I get it, I would probably act the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:45 AM
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None of those are partner qualities. As said before. As ignored before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:30 AM
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Yes, you do actually keep shifting the topic. I know. We started out talking about how it's unreasonable to expect it to ONLY take 1-2 days (your claim) to find a decent partner. You responded with: if you have hundreds of matches yet can’t find a single decent one that sounds like a you problem Which wasn't something I claimed. Currently (the topic you want to shift away from), we weren't talking about that anymore. We are talking about how you didn't test out the dating experience of women on …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:44 AM
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How is that not testing it out? Because you aren't taking on the female role
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:33 AM
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You described what you did and that's not testing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:27 AM
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So you don't want to test it? Like, I'm not saying that you are wrong, I would probably have the same moral convictions if I was male, especially if I have the same experiences as men them. But then you didn't test shit and don't know shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:22 AM
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So you tested casual sex experience, not dating experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:17 AM
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You aren't responding to what I'm saying. Probably because you aren't reading what I'm saying. Maybe you should do that if you want to have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:06 AM
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At a certain point, increased number of matches, doesn't decrease the time you need to spend on an app to meet a life partner. I have said this before, so why is your example 0 matches? Why use a dating app if you aren’t trying to find someone? Ego? Finding out your social standing? Girls making a profile for their friend? Or to bully a girl? Other types of games? Social media fame? A social media trend? Testing out shit? Trying to find a specific person's profile? Kids being kids and wanting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:57 PM
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Yes I know how it goes, so I know how bloody insane it is to think it only takes 1-2 days. I haven't even vetted 1 guy for a date in 1-2 days time. We're barely passed friendly conversation at that point. I’ve seen the results firsthand as a “woman” No, you haven't, because you have gotten 50matches in 30min. No woman that is attempting to seriously date, would let the matches go that insane. All you've done, is test how CRAZY desirable women are on dating apps. And no one is denying that. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:36 PM
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Yes, it's unrealistic, that was gonna be my point. At a certain point, increased number of matches, doesn't decrease the time you need to spend on an app to meet a life partner. So how many people do you think women can converse with at the same time, without losing the ability to properly vet for a life partner? And how long do you think those conversations happen before either unmatching or scheduling a date? And how many men do you think those women need to talk too, before finding a life par…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:27 PM
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Have you tried talking to those 50matches with the point of trying to find a life partner, all 50 at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:18 PM
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Ok, let's work this out. 1 day or 2. How many people do you think they are talking too for 1-2 days, to find mr.right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:14 PM
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Analogies are supposed to be used to give a more vivid and clear image of the argument you are trying to make. For example, X is bad, because Y and Z, like in Analogy A, where something like X is also bad for Y and Z reasons. The issue with analogy, isn’t the analogy, it's that people skip the explanation part of the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:16 AM
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I think if this kind of questioning very early is acceptable, then why is it all of a sudden 'aggressive' for men to simply ask what a woman feels like she can bring to the table of a relationship? Because you can ask it in the exact same format? You can ask: Do you want kids? Do you have a job? What's your feeling about chore devision? Like, certain phrasing is aggressive and offensive and others aren't, even though it's saying the exact same thing. Like, if I need to critize someone at work, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:36 PM
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The thing a lot of socially awkward men don't understand, is that almost all of the popular way to "test" women, has already gotten a bastard version from women-haters. In theory, there is nothing wrong with asking what they bring to the table. A tad aggressive for my taste...but there are ways to bring down the aggression and cushion it a bit. But all I can think about now when I hear "what do you bring to the table" is all those guys with a podcast who ask that question and if the girl says th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:27 PM
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Is tinder 5 years old? The rapes are going back down, because women are leaving the apps. Almost all rapes are committed by family or someone you already know in your social circle. Yes. Which is why the stranger rape explosion from tinder is so significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:02 AM
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UK statistics rape 2014 something, go look them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:01 AM
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A lot of us are just not meeting partners and still not on dating apps. We have a bigger tolerance for sitting around and doing nothing. And we have a lower tolerance for putting up with shit. So we are getting off the apps and doing nothing and were fine with that for years until we're not anymore and then we reinstall the apps until we're remembering why we hate them. And the only way to get to those women, is in that brief moment where they are just back on the app and still positive. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:12 AM
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Dating apps have actually created a boost of stranger rape and rape in general, after decades of rape statistics going down every single year. DECADES of less rape, every year, consistently, until tinder. And stranger rape is normally an extremely tiny amount of rapes and almost ALWAYS perpetuated by a serial rapist. Like, before tinder, it was unheard of to get snagged on the street and raped and have you be the first victim of that rapist. That didn't happen. By the time the rapist evolved to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:06 AM
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Not for the crack of it: because they are kids. They are unable to properly judge the gravity of their actions because they are kids, ever heard of the argument that part of their brain isn't fully grown yet? Being able to judge this properly without having personal experience with this...is part of that. It's nowhere near grown, they just can't do it (usually). And they are old enough to go into the phase of wanting to be treated as an adult and perceiving themselves as adults, because that's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:17 PM
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Oh yeah, 18/19 does not yet have the capability to judge that difference. But that's why the vast majority of places have Romeo laws. That's not something that's considered immoral and judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:02 PM
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Younger women, consider 15years older, to be grandpa. They think 35y olds are ancient. They're wrong and they'll learn they are wrong, but they have extreme views about age. When they say they don't want grandpa, that generally includes 15years older. And you can find exceptions to any rule, especially on the internet. Do you have any idea how much I encounter transsexuals online? If I based my perception or reality based on the internet, then I would think that 1 in 10 or something of people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:59 PM
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but men who are at least 5-15 years older than them. Make that 2-5 years. Yeah...that's not actually older then them, except if you are a teenager. That's older to a teenager. When a teenager is talking about someone older, they're talking about a dude that's 2-3 years older and in college that can extend to 5 years. 15...is a grandpa to teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:47 PM
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Here's the thing, when you get older, you do actually often times know. You are around a lot more women of different ages, you work together with women of different ages, you get nieces, your cousins grow older, your friends grow older, you become more mature and start seeing the world differently, but with the experience of what it was like when you were younger. Y'all keep trying to bail these older dudes based on your experiences of not being able to tell the difference, but in the vast major…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:39 PM
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When girls start losing interest in a man due to how he walks When have women...ever...not done that though? Like, yall are acting like all your dating frustrations are new and because of dating apps and entitlement and yet yall never ever mention something that's actually new? Women have always gotten the "ick" for a variety of weird reasons, there are scenes in movies making fun of that...it's not new, it's not because of dating apps. The only thing that's new, is women talking about it in pub…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:16 AM
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Often arguments against motherhood come from women... Noke of these arguments work at convincing a woman to not have kids, unless they are supposed to work. For example: me telling a girl that daycare costs 1-2K/month for an under 3y old isn't going to convince them to not have kids or wait with having kids UNLESS 1-2K is a serious problem for them. The desire to have kids is strong, people that want kids wave away most of the arguments...unless the argument hits them exactly where they are inse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:53 PM
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1) Do you even have a possible solution that could get implemented against manipulation (and I'm gonna try to wreck it, not try hard though, but if i can wreck it in 5 min, its not good). Because you are suggesting that it should be easy and with less effort and I see that as an issue simular to targeting rape convictions rates. Really fucking difficult. 2) There's "technically" more being done for harassement, but not in reality. And I would argue that what currently does excist, helps men bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:05 PM
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And this is what a lot of men argue and I understand the argument. I'm not discrediting the argument. But do you understand how this: Typically, there is more leeway if the girl is attractive - she can still find a guy even if she isn't a virgin. Is "good riddance" for me? How I feel bad for the attractive women, who don't get rid of those men in advance? Because they might end up MARRIED to them? Like, a lot of you guys here, are arguing these truths, and they are true, I'm not denying it's tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:25 PM
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If have a partnership with someone, regardless of merging finances, they often times get intertwined anyway. It's not possible to live together for over a decade and not have intertwined finances. And best case scenario, that's 50/50...but most of the time, the intertwining happens at the benefit of the richer partner and the sacrifice of the poorer partner. Because for the unit, you 2 together, it's better that the richer partner levels up. For example, if the richer partner has a job opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:58 AM
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Do the things I describe, really sound like gorging? Having avocado and salmon in the same meal? Having pizza once a week and pasta another day of the week, so 2 days of the week total? Really? If you really do, then I think YOU are the one with issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:46 PM
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Do the things I describe, really sound like gorging? Having avocado and salmon in the same meal? Having pizza once a week and pasta another day of the week, so 2 days of the week total? Really? If you really do, then I think YOU are the one with issues. Once you start losing weight and adhering to a strict diet it gets easier and easier Been there, done that, the result you keep ignoring was crying 3-5days per week. Soon it becomes second nature. No, because I'm not a guy. There's always skinnie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:07 AM
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Why do you feel you need to be skinny to date though? I don't. I was only arguing that giving up on dating, generally equals weight gain, so offcourse they are the fatties, even if they started out as skinny. I was arguing that his cause and effect was reversed, he was suggesting that they quitted dating, because they were fat. I suggest that they're fat, because they quit dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:14 AM
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Because I was miserable when skinny. Its easy to be shameless about something, if it makes you genuinely happy. And there's also that you are trying to argue that it's in my best interest, when it's obviously not, which makes it clear that it's all about your sexual gratification and opportunity, not about me. Like IDGAF about your ability to fuck around and how it's limited by women being fat. I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:10 AM
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But you aren't exactly giving me a reason why I wouldn't cry this time, just a: do the same thing, expect different results Being fit is so much better for you than being fat And being happy is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:30 PM
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You’ll be swimming in cocks the moment you’re thin/fit!! I guarantee it. Again, I've been skinny, I know. All the fuckboys I could possibly want, available to me. Not really appealing. You have no idea on the opportunities you’re missing by choosing to be fat. Been skinny. Again, I know. Why do you keep ignoring the: crying to sleep 3-5 nights per week part? Why doesn't that make you go...yeesh, not this girl. Why do you dig your heels in and keep insisting my life will be better, when I say I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:09 PM
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But I'm not crying myself to sleep 3-5 days a week? Why would I want extra years if its under that condition? Those extra years are a negative then. More years to cry and be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:48 PM
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physical health Obviously mental health And heavy restriction isn't? Like dude...come on...be honest! financial wellbeing I literally listed money as a reason in my previous post. You’ll find it’s easier to lose weight as part of a group. I.dont.give.a.fuck. I understand the importance if I have a boyfriend. Currently all the consequences are on me and I don't care. The wonders it will do to your outlook on life, happiness, mood and overall well being cannot be understated. Oh, I've been skinny …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:30 PM
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And? If you are not dating...what's the point in not having pizza once a week and pasta another day and bread for lunch and a piece of chocolate with your morning coffee? I'm not dating, those are big sacrifices. Would I still like to be hot? Sure! At the price of not eating more then 30gr of carb with every meal and not ever being able to have fastfood and needing to cut a 3-5 pieces of vegetables...every...single...day, not even counting fruits, and cook everyday? At price of having salmon be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:04 PM
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Disagreed. Like maybe for men, but for women...a lowered standard means getting treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:45 PM
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They only care about themselves and their fellow "kawwwwwweeennns" raising their standards as their attractiveness falls through the floor. I honestly have never actually heard women complaining about it all that much. There's is body positivity, yes, but that's more about not getting treated like shit in general, not specifically about dating. I've even heard the opposite more then I've heard complaints, fatter women not wanting men to try and settle with them because it hurts their feelings an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:17 PM
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But if loneliness is harming you, if not being in a relationship is making you sad and coloring the way you live your life, lowering your standards is the best advice ever. No it fucking isn't. You can still kill yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:03 PM
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Dude...you already have those extra benefits? The times you go to work and your wife or ex-wife or girlfriend spend at home taking care of both of your kids? That's you gaining that benefit and them losing that benefit. You working non-stop, because they take care of the kids, or grandparents... means that you can retire earlier then them and with more money. You already have the penis bonus. You are complaining about lacking benefits that you already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:05 PM
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Dude... I gave a statement and then was arguing about that statement. Do you know the strawman of using "a strawman" to try and discredit the opponents argument...without actually discrediting it. I do love how you are strawmanning an extreme example and then accuse me of "changing shit" when I try to get back to my original point. Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:48 PM
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How about, "When you do _, I feel __." Which isn't what I was describing and you replied to me. If you are gonna change shit, that's on you to clarify. And men don't fucking do that unless it's the ironic version.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:47 PM
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There is no emotional vulnerability in expressing criticism, the emotional vulnerability in that situation is coming from the person that has to take in the criticism and only if it's a criticism about their emotions/personality. For example: you are an asshole. Do you think I was being emotionally vulnerable there?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:47 PM
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Not the dudes I've dated, men IRL are actually pretty nice compared to online, which fucks up my mental perception of men. But it's...when you have men online that complain about having had an ex and she GOT ANGRY if they expressed emotions...and you ask them about what type of emotion... it's either "I got abused and she laughed at me" or "I called her behavior stupid and she got angry even though I didn't call her stupid, I called the BEHAVIOR stupid!".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:27 PM
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Husband notices wife is doing something that is negatively affecting the relationship. Husband expresses issue to wife. You read situations like that as "the wife is wrong, the wife needs to be corrected, the wife is refusing to be listen and help the household, stubborn like all women are" and I read that as "husband wants to manage the household, as opposed to fixing it himself". No idea which one of us is true btw, because the wife will always write it like my situation and the husband will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:44 PM
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Narrow? It's shit like...don't rant at us about how all women are stupid or sluts or don't know their place or are making bad decisions that are ruining the world. But for some reason, whenever yall hit a breaking point, it always comes out as "women this" or "women that". Hint, if that happens, and the woman you are venting too gets angry, it's not because you expressed emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:03 AM
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Women need more, in order to get the same things as a guy. Or at the very least they assume they do. Like, let's talk about casual sex. What do you need for enjoyable casual sex? You need to feel relaxed or excited. You need someone you are attracted too. You want an orgasm. You need to feel like it's a safe thing to do. Now let's use this list on men: Orgasm? They presume they will get one. It's not really a concern. This just doesn't appear on their list, so give it a score of 9. Safety? In my…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:58 PM
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My ex was saying the same type of shit "it's just harder for men", while I kept trying to convince him to let me dress him then, super easy, I'll do it! Which was offcourse a "No, that's uncomfortable.". Well, when the relationship started breaking down, he did allow it. After the very first day of wearing that outfit, dude came home and was like "I got so many compliments", apparently his boss even gave a compliment. He worn down that outfit and he had no issues with me dressing him anymore. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:43 PM
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And like... I know this for certain because I already get this type of response when I'm not even complimenting a guy. The other day, I had an issue at work and because of holidays I'm working alone and I needed an extra set of hands and this guy walks by that is...fit. Dude was cute and fit. And I go like "hey can you spare about 10min, I need help.", he goes "ok" and I proceed to go to the department where I need his help and we're transferring shit and blablabla. And at the end, he goes "AH, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:28 PM
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Yes. When you account for ability to get those people to actually do porn: FUCK YES. Dude, we can see you looking IRL. You making the active choice, to not persue them, but instead cheat on your girlfriend with them, doesn't mean that you don't like that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:29 PM
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Press D for doubt. Like...pornhub??? Really? That's not a realistic number when you and specify pornhub instead of porn in general. Pornhub??? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:23 PM
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Many woman need little foreplay or even less than men. It all depends on the person. Yes...but porn gives the impression that this "many women" is the vast majority of women, when it's a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:21 PM
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I watch porn...which requires paying for it to see anything good. Porn = male, not because women don't like porn, but because they've decided to only cater to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:19 PM
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That you are part of the other 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:11 PM
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50% of all babies born are accidental. you cant get pregnant if you take precautions This is BEYOND common. Condoms are 70% safe in real life (90% in a laboratory, but we don't live in a lab). There's a % of women that have a natural resistence against birth control and doctors typically don't find that out until unwanted pregnancy nr.3. It requires a DNA test. 80% of birth control users, use the pill. 90% of teenagerd. THE PILL! I'm guessing that you won't even understand why that's an issue? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:01 PM
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I'm arguing that a supportive boyfriend is just as useless as a crap boyfriend if I have an unwanted pregnancy. No fucking difference. The supportive boyfriend can't do anything that would actually help me in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:56 PM
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Your state doesn't allow abortions after 6 weeks, you need about 3K to travel out of state and stay there for 2 weeks, because there legally needs to be 2 weeks between the first appointment and the abortion in that state. And you don't have access to 3K.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:55 PM
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Because not everyone can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:52 PM
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So I can send the supportive boyfriend in, and he's getting the abortion done?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:51 PM
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Then why are you just saying whatever shit you want to say regardless of what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:51 PM
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Why? You aren't reading my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:49 PM
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His support is fucking meaningless when I'm pregnant and I don't want to be. Can I exchange his support into an abortion? NO!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:48 PM
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had i told her no right there she probably wouldnt of had it. And had to abort, that was one of the things I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:47 PM
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Unwanted pregnancy is unwanted pregnancy even if it's a good guy you got pregnant by.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:43 PM
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I am a woman Then why do you not have a realistic view of a woman's life and are instead focusing on this template build by men? I hate this babyfication of women. Are we babyficating the poor if we say that "not buying Starbucks" isn't gonna lift anyone out of poverty? But there is no other choice. Its a difficult process, but we have to go trough difficult process all the time. No, you have options. Not that it matters to the argument, because I was arguing that plenty of women do not have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:42 PM
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Your wife was still pregnant and still had to go through labor. If she didn't want the baby, she was still fucking pregnant and had to go through an abortion and there was a reasonable possibility that she wouldn't have been able to have that abortion and that she HAD to be pregnant and had to go through labor. It's all just theory for you guys and you certainly act like it's only a theoretical thing and yall are being fucking cruel. Why do you need to be spoonfed empathy to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:38 PM
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My argument is that men are cruel and I really should get offline, because all of this is impeding my ability to look at men as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:20 PM
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How is anything she said wrong? I acknowledged that it's not actually wrong...see the rich people example. It's just extremely out of touch with an actual woman's life. the thing is not a baby at that point Which is an easy thing to do and say if you are a guy or not pregnant and it's all technical shit. It's a bit different when doctors are letting you listen to the fetus their heartbeat, as required by law in several states, before you are allowed to terminate. Women aren't dealing with paperw…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:19 PM
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It's our body that's doing this, not us. Our choices are limited. There's laws to limit it further. Don't fucking act like every woman has a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:14 PM
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Having to pay 20-200dollar every week, does not compare to having to be pregnant and having to go through labor and then having to pay 20-200dollar every week if you want to do the same thing a guy does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:07 PM
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Your response is so extremely out of touch with the experience of about any woman. It's all science, no real life. It's like a rich person giving advice about how to save money by not buying Starbucks. Like...they ain't wrong, you ain't wrong...but it's just so out of touch and not of any actual aid. Don't you have someone to discuss this with, so that it goes from theoretical to practical?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:47 PM
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Women's ability to opt out is extremely limited. 1) find out you are pregnant in time 2) have financial resources in time to fix the problem 3) don't think of that thing as a baby 4) don't get boycotted. Men's ability to opt out is: walking away. It's extremely hard to actually hold you accountable if you do that and your accountability will have severe limits placed on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:38 PM
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Because it is. Like, you can have the best, most understanding and compatible husband possible and the rest of the world will still react to you being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:13 PM
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It's fucking Korea....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:07 AM
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That's what Korea itself says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:47 AM
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Catlady. Not literally with cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:26 AM
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I already said why I don't think it's gonna change: women opting out creates incels => incels are more misogynistic then if they weren't incels => more misogynists isn't gonna lead to feminist progress. Also these women aren't being political, they're almost exactly like the western MGTOW in that they complain a lot online, but aren't actually doing shit IRL. So politicians aren't gonna do shit for them, because it's not necessarily gonna lead to more votes AND they will lose funding. I just don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:40 AM
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You are projecting western culture on Korea again. If women would have regretted this shit after 5-10 years, then these women would already be having kids because Korea's issues have been progressing for longer then 5-10 years. The birth rate of Korea was 1,3 in 2012. This keep decreasing, year after year. There are 40y olds who didn't want kids in 2012 that still didn't have kids, for them to now have a birth rate of 0,82. I don't see why Korea would be any different and why a woman would settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:14 AM
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Have you seen the rise of incels? Also, if they genuinely wanted to have a kid, women are actually capable of having a one night stand or jumping over to the sperm bank to get a baby. If this is actually hurting them significantly, they would do that, consequences be damned. This is women we are talking about, it's so easy for them to have a child without a partner. But they aren't. They aren't doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:54 AM
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Because Korea's problem with birth rate is primarily the women refusing to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:43 AM
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How old are you? Because I also started out, with men being the ones that really didn't want to have kids as the majority and that was mostly age-based. At 12, you already had little girls that had baby names and etc. The little boys? Definitely not. At 16, there were some stupid ass girls that wanted to become mothers already. The 16y old boys? DEFINITELY NOT! At 20, you had some girls ready for marriage and then having kids after 2-3 years. The boys...some started to want that, a lot of them w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:37 AM
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How long do you think that's gonna last though? 40% is a massive number lol, you can't have 40% of the population not reproducing in a single generation. Yeah, that's why Korea's birth rate is less then 1 and dropping more every fucking year. For comparison: the replacement rate is about 2,4 and Korea is currently at 0,82. I don't really see a fourth option, a strike on dating can't last more than a few years or they will literally go extinct. And? Like, you are saying that as if going extinct i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:25 AM
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What do you think of the idea that more and more low tier/mid tier males are gonna be priced out... That's what currently is going on in Korea. In some estimates, as many as 40% of Korean women are some level of WGTOW. You can not have 40% of the women, opting out of dating, and still have low-tier men able to date. Like 40% is a SHITTON of women. The higher tier guys/rich guys are gonna end up with more and more women(similar to current OLD trends) and end up in 10-15 girl harems. Again, this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:05 AM
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It doesn't really matter, because they aren't fighting for it. They're acting like MGTOW, whining online, but no actual activism. And the people in power, still punish feminist agendas. So as a politician: you have no benefit from advocating for them and you will lose funding. So they don't. And the newly created incels? The dudes that can't date women because women are refusing to date? In every fucking culture, those are the biggest misogynists and haters of women. The nicest incel you know, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:26 AM
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Imagine western men in the 1940s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:10 AM
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but in most other 2nd/3rd world countries in the world. In a lot of those countries, women still need a man's wage in order to live comfortably. As in safe, not in poverty, not having to worry about meeting needs. In korea, they don't. They themselves can make a men's wage. Which is why Korean women have the ability to go WGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:09 AM
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But I was talking about south Korea exclusively, the entire time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:43 PM
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I'm not arguing about the rest of the Asian countries, just south-korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:36 PM
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Korea really is an exception... like, it's extreme. They have the world lowest rate at 0,92 births per woman in 2019, dropped to 0,81 in 2022. The birth rate in Europe goes from highest 1,92 to lowest 1,13 in 2022. Europe has never dropped below 1, Korea is below 1 for several years. Like...Japan isn't below 1 either and Korea's birth rate keeps dropping more rapidly then the rest of the lower birth rate countries. And the global reason this is happening is: we now have control of our reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:32 PM
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Selective blindness. Islamic men talking all trashy about women: yeey. Those same men, all being single...: ignore. Islamic men talking about not having to do shit in the household: yeey. Islamic women talking about all their money is theirs and his money is shared: ignore. Islamic men talking about only marrying a virgin: yeey. The countless amount of jokes of Islamic women about how they're so happy there's an extra wife coming because now they need to fuck their husband less: ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:16 PM
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Hint: less control in ability to prevent conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:05 PM
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I'd argue that they don't want us to put our wants and desires to the side, because they don't acknowledge that we have wants and desires that aren't things that they already expect us to do. Can't be giving up a desire that you don't have and they don't think we have them. And a personal theory of mine, is that it's part of them wanting to be heroic. They want to be the hero, they want to be the good guy and they want that to be easy. A bit "a just world" mixed in. And this is personal offc, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:04 PM
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The original post is just plain false, with truths scattered in between. It's looking at Korea, through an American lense, not a Korean one. Like feminism never actually took root in Korea. They have ALWAYS been very anti-feminist. None of this is because of feminism. Korea's problems can be summarized as "Men insisting that being anti-feminist is gonna solve the problems that anti-feminism caused.". Like, they just made dating so overwhelmingly negative, that not dating for korean women, is wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:47 PM
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Exactly. Which is why it's ridiculous of OP to blame feminists for this. If feminists had their way and Korea looked a bit like western countries, then no way that they had this much of a WGTOW culture. It's the absence of feminism in Korea that caused this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:28 PM
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It's not being painted as a burden for Korean women, it is a burden. Korea is an example of what would have happened if we kept traditional values in a modernizing world. The women are still expected to go live with their in-laws and to take care of the household of their in-laws, to take care of the in-laws, to take asian type criticism of the in-laws about the household, to take care of any children AND to do all of that within the modern structure of needing 2 incomes, so she has to work, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:14 PM
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Yes, South-Korea has the biggest MRA community. But like...They're an example of what happens if you refuse to give gender equality to modern women. The men in those countries, hate feminism, because of the large "WGTOW" part of Korean feminism. Not because of stupid online messages. Korean men are faced with a large portion of women ACTUALLY not dating men. Not just threatening and going "what if". Those women absolutely fucking refuse to date until things are better for them...and men dug thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:50 PM
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Do you still think that's the case if I tell you that Korea has the largest group of WGTOW in the world, honestly...the only actually realistic group of WGTOW in the world, 40% of them consider themselves single for life and they have one of the smallest numbers of birth in the world. Does that sound like the men are being replaced by richer men? Or by loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:33 PM
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Korea has the largest group of WGTOW in the fucking world. They're not hypergamy-ing their way out. They are staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:30 PM
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The biggest reason for Korean women to become feminist is because they literally have nothing to gain by becoming married and everything to lose. Western women complain a lot about the korean model as a theorized version of "what men want", but that's reality in Korea. When you marry in Korea, you are supposed to move in with your in-laws, do all the house work of the inlaws, and still have a fulltime job. There is 0 protection for you in the workforce, if you end up pregnant, but you do actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:29 PM
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Therapy is always the first step. Not for physical issues and PPD is as much a physical issue as it is a mental issue. There is medication for it. It just takes months.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:43 PM
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LoL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:19 PM
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I'm saying it's not as bad as you make out. Except it fucking is: look at all the men trying to convince women that it's not. If it really wasn't that bad, they would want to do it, instead of persistently trying to convince women to do it AND be grateful for it. And if it really wasn't that bad, women would want to do it. At the very least, if it wasn't really that bad: yall would not be this bothered by women hating it. It wouldn't be this persistent of an argument. We would agree to disagree …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:09 PM
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No i'd be more than happy to stay home and my wife work 70 hours a week. Then argue for fucking that. I think you're confusing some 1960s lifestyle where staying at home was hard. Now we have washers and dryers and dish washer... Instead of doing this. Trying to convince me that it's so fucking great. Go argue for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:09 PM
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the alternative was a single income being able to support a family. The alternative was, me being supported by a single income and having to be a SAHM. Again, work is better then the alternative. I think we're simply pointing out facts and saying "Yeah work sucks I wish I could stay home all day and hang out with my kids I don't get why that's viewed as a negative" Yet when there's a baby....almost none of you do that. And when we're having these types of discussions, it's always focussed on try…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:47 PM
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Work is awesome if compared to the alternative of the past. Like dude...why do you think men are always trying to convince women that they'll be happier like this, instead of men trying to convince women to let them be like that. Almost nobody wants to do that. Men or women. We all think it fucking sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:40 PM
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Then show me the data from the 70s that would have a statistical impact on overall happiness studies. ...you started with the 70s happiness bullshit? Like, I'm claiming shit about the 50s. Great point though, trying to demand the evidence of your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:29 PM
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You pay people the least amount you can Yes. Capitalism. If both people are working they need half the amount of money each for the same standard of living. Yes. And capitalism would have forced both people to work anyway, by reducing wages. Cool show me the stats. Look them up. No I'm saying we don't have the 1950s data on happiness so I simply don't know Oh, we have enough data. We have unhappiness being listed as mental illness such as female hysteria and fits and uterine derangement. We have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:21 PM
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Wages would have dropped regardless of women joining the work force, because we live in a capitalistic society, without counter-measures. The opposite even, we have measures to ensure profit. Where else do you think that profit is going to come from? Do you have the stats on use of drugs on women in the early 1970s I thought that was a 50s thing. Stay at home wives using some type a drug is a forever thing. We're wired to be social in a way that SAHM's don't typically get. As in...in communities…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:58 AM
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It also correlates with a drop in financial reward for employment, increased stress at employment, increased productivity at employment, less socializing, less community, reduced social programs, increased poverty, global warming getting worse, ... But it has to be the marriage? Also how exactly are women where casual use of coke and mood suppressants were at 50% if you only looked at house wives??? Even today, they're still drugged up. Now it's just wine. Alcohol abuse number amongst SAHMs are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:26 AM
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Yes...because all of those ideas that women are doing that, are protection. You are witnessing something happening with women and then go "why would I do something like that?" and then conclude that that's the reason why women would do that. So offcourse men would too. The entire idea is hyper-masc as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:16 AM
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Yes, but unless they are religious, for the most part they are men that couldn't get sex, trying to get a girl that got "higher" in value with the years. So you either have men wanting virgins, that couldn't even get a virgin when they were in abundance or you have men demanding a virgin while they had sex. Either way...it's not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:22 AM
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Because I'm not talking about his point at all. It's pretty hard to refute something, if you are on a different subject. YOU are talking about the subject. He...doesn't understand it and is trying to get me to argue about a side-track.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:31 PM
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Read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:41 PM
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No. That isn't anywhere near what I was saying. It doesn't even work as a rebuttal. Go read the post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:39 PM
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It wasn't "we don't have trends", it's "we don't have a lot of social trends", as in "our trends are limited". NOT as in "they don't exist" That should have been clear by me listig the trends in the next paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:35 PM
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We don't actually have a lot of social trends. You have kids or you don't have kids. You get married or you don't get married. If you don't get married, you can long-term date, shorter date or don't date. So what do you do about sex if you don't date? You have it or you don't. There's a shitton of motivations for each of those choices though. Have kids? Why? You want em, you feel pressured by your parents to have kids, pressured by society, it's just a thing you do, you always wanted someone to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:49 PM
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Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:45 PM
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You already had your reply. Leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:27 PM
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...oh never mind, you are a rape apologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:22 PM
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Perpetrators are way more likely to get to a point where they say “I’m sorry, I hurt you, I know that and I was wrong” when they’re not fighting to keep themselves out of prison. ...rape is a crime of control? As in...for a large part, it's not actually about sexual gratification, but about overpowering the victim, having control over the victim, a large number of serial rapists even keep fantasizing about having a permanent impact on the victim and never being forgotten. Does that sound like so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:03 PM
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Offcourse it's not all genetics. But it is also genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:52 PM
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People often times forget what a good justice system is supposed to prevent. Justice is supposed to prevent crime and we know and acknowledge that, it's supposed to punish crime and we know and acknowledge that...it's also supposed to stop people from taking justice in their own hands, because...that's really bad, and we typically forget or choose to ignore that. Rape does not get justice in a court of law, so people are trying to recreate their own form of justice. This is why false rape accusa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:06 AM
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Why would he get his carreer back if he's an asshole? Good people that are wrongly convicted, get help. Not bad people that are wrongly convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:58 AM
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And genetics. Like...are you suggesting that you can exercise away losing hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:23 AM
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Oh God, you are one of those guys that think "not saying something because it makes someone feel bad right now" is lying, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:48 PM
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Honestly, I really don't think that is the primary issue. The primary issue is that we want break-ups to be a fair thing. As in...people feel the need to justify why they're breaking up with someone and others feel the need to know the justification why you are breaking up, and if that's not a good enough reason: they're arguing about it. "Yeah, me and John are breaking up. I'm not feeling it anymore.", "What do you mean?", "I'm just not that happy as I used to be...", "Yeah, but relationships d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:45 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:07 PM
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?????
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:03 PM
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Dude...arranged??? New info. And I think that you are severely overestimating the ability of a random white guy to find a conservative indian wife, lol. Especially when arranged. It's NOT gonna be easier then finding a white woman. And conservative Indian families will overlook his I think that you have an overall wild look on arranged marriages. ...Unless you are suggesting he goes and gets his wife in India, and honey...it's not his credentials that seal the deal then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:25 PM
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...don't you mean non-conservative indian women? Conservatisme still aligns with wanting women to date within their own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:15 PM
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Yes.... ..... ...why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:58 PM
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He seems like 99% a match for me: goes nuts over the same things, is creepy in a simular matter, YEEY MATH is awesome, yada yada yada. But the dude wants kids... I honestly don't think he's gonna have much luck, because I know a lot of the exact type of women that he desires, they're friends and the vast majority of them don't want kids. And the ones that do want kids, did advanced planning to have those kids, and they're halfway through their plans and locked in. He's either going to have to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:05 PM
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I agree...but that's just the only thing I can think off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 09:08 AM
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I think he's talking about virgin shaming? Maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:42 AM
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And they're always going "eat a salade" as the magical solution. Honey...an average salade is 400kcal. I can have a 200kcal salade and be hungry again in 2 hours or I can eat my 200gr low-fat no sugar greek yoghurt of 55kcal/100gram with 20gr dieet granola of 450kcal/100gram for 200kcal and be filled for longer. Like...They're looking at me eating less kcal then a salade and they think the solution is "have a salade". Or they imagine that only the vegetables is actually gonna fill you up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:02 PM
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Well...how would you phrase it, if you can manage a strict dieet without a boyfriend, but when you do have a boyfriend, you can't because of things that he is doing and impacting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:36 AM
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It's more like boyfriends are either boycotters of the dieet or trying to inspire an ED, no in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:31 AM
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Like seriously, the times where I gained weight were ALWAYS in a relationship. I can't even imagine what kids would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:55 AM
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The segment is pretty fucking big. No it's fucking not. You don't know the misery of loneliness and being deprived of validation like men do. I do. Because women experience that too, just not in attracting the male gender. But women OVERWHELMINGLY experience that from other women. And other sources. Do you understand the loneliness in having your father not look at you as a person, but as a woman? Probably not. Like...he absolutely fucking loves me, but just like the vast majority of this sub...…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:25 AM
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I think you missed the point. I'm 5'6. I won't be primally desired the same way a 6'2 man is desired. I didn't miss the point. I gave you that point. I did say that men have gotten the short stick when it comes to attracting the opposite sex. Women have it better then men on that 1 segment. But it's 1 segment. That's it. It's awful, but it comes with the territory of being the sex that does the choosing Yeah. Exactly. So we have it worse. Because rape is worse. I don't see how your fixating on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:13 AM
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No it's fucking not better on a long term scale. Yall just hyper focus on the 1!!!! case where yall have it worse. Just the 1. When attracting the opposite sex. It's not even better for us when it comes to dating in general, it's only when attracting the opposite sex and that also comes with all the sexual assault rates attached to it because we're attracting those guys do. And yall just turn a blind eye to the numerous examples of why it's worse for us...because you need to put effort into attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:59 AM
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Just be glad you women will never have your desireability ever questioned ...pardon????? That shit starts at 12. 12!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:45 AM
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Why you haven't already, I don't know. I'm over 30. This is an under 30 problem. And why? Because people desire relationships, it takes a while to give up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:36 AM
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Because it sounds good. It especially sounds good, if you are a guy that lacks matches, then it sounds like heaven. And I think it's hell. A really well designed hell, because you are self motivating to join and stay on there and keep your own torture going. Like I'm so fucking glad that that shit stopped when I turned 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:27 AM
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Well, an under 30 woman. The moment I hit 30, like my exact birthday, that stopped and I think that I'm now having that dating experience that the men here, keep thinking that all women have. And it used to be very frustrating, but the more frustrating part, was that everyone kept blaming you for it. And I get that the men's part was harder then mine. Like...having to swipe through a 100 men to find 10 good guys...but you also gotta figure out who that is because it's not obvious, is bad...but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:32 AM
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The technology for wombs that’s projected to be ready like 10 years out is more of an incubator for fetuses starting at a few months old Even this is gonna be extremely difficult and is probably gonna result in babies that have "ape-like" intelligence at first. One of the HUGE difficulties that we have with artificial wombs is that human pregnancy is pretty unique compared to all the other animals. If we were to try and reproduce a cat womb...that's HELLA easier, but human pregnancies are basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:14 AM
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Maybe, I'm not 40 yet. I'll let you know in about 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:46 PM
3

In my case, it really wasn't choosing better. Its like...you are hungry and you want a piece of candy but the bowl is filled with cherry candies and you don't like those. You look for an orange one or a green one, but can't find it. Eventually you pick the cherry one anyway, because you are hungry. I wanted to date. I really really wanted to date. I wanted the same type of guy as I wanted before, and I just couldn't fine one. I was settling in my 20s, not choosing badly. And I think that the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:15 PM
8

The quality goes up for women, in my opinion. Like...the lack of quality you are complaining about? I have no lack of likes, but my god... The options .... This here? Those people are already trying shit in our early 20s. So they're not increasing by us getting to an appropriate age, because they never gave a damn about us being too young. And then when we're 30, all the guys that care about age or a woman's worth in terms of her just being there as a piece of eye candy, those people go away. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:17 PM
7

Post-wall is like: instead of a 100 men of which only 10 guys are good, you only get the 10 guys that are good in your inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:05 PM
32

As an older single woman that never had kids, that's unhappy: thats because I laid all my eggs in one basket, the relationship basket...and I'm single. I'm unhappy, because I never invested time in other shit, because all I wanted was a relationship and now I'm single and don't have shit after I left my ex. I have friends who went full on for their carreer and they're happy. I have friends who went full on for marriage and kids and they're happy. Like, a big issue with your question, is that typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:54 PM
-3

I'm not a follower of Joe Rogans stuff, but Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:54 PM
0

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:23 PM
1

women describe the way they met their bf with the phrase "it just happened." Naturally, a lot of men will figure that what this means is that the guy actively worked towards wooing the woman and didn't simply go about his own way. The problem is, that yall interpret this as a "sit and do nothing". "It just happened', isn't "the men didn't do shit". You are asking the wrong question to the wrong person. If you find a woman, who has a good relationship, you ask the man she is with...what he did to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:12 PM
9

...you understand that fightclub is making fun of those men, right? The dude wrote an entire book, joking and ridiculing these types of men the entire fucking time, and those men go "YEAHHHH". You missed the entire message of fightclub. ...how often do you misunderstand ridicule for admiration?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:46 PM
2

??? 2/10 is the first overweight one and overweight is the majority??? Also the higher up one's have photos photoshopped pictures. He's also upscoring for a "plastic surgery" look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:27 AM
1

Yeah, there's also the socially oblivious man, that repeats jokes his mates told him and no...he thinks he's joking because he's repeating something he thought was a joke. There's genuinely guys that have tried to have a light conversation, by making a sexist joke, and they are upset when women don't laugh. It's a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:58 PM
-1

I’ve been called a pussy “jokingly” a few times You use "jokingly", with the appropriate "", so why are you still acting like they made jokes? They weren't. Here's the problem with men though, a lot of them do that, and don't realize it. They're actually trying to be funny. They found it hilarious when another guy made the joke, why aren't the women laughing? Like, that's not the same situation at all. Your women are FULLY aware and not making jokes. They might hide behind the joke defense, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:44 PM
11

Ok, here's the issue, a lot of men think that they are just making a roast or just making an offensive joke, but they're actually semi-serious and a lot of women can tell. And then there's a bunch of guys that aren't funny, that pretend to be funny by repeating these jokes, and then they look like the semi-serious guys. So, if you have a guy that isn't social enough to be able to talk to women on it's own, yeah I recommend giving them the advice to not try a roast or offensive joke...because pul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:08 PM
1

Reverse cowgirl to hit the A-Spot Reverse...bro... How does that not confirm what I said????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:43 PM
1

She can angle her whole body forwards or backwards to find the right angle. Still limited by your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:35 PM
1

Why should it be impossible? I have feelings in my dick, I can tell if I'm (or in this case she's) hitting the right spot Because you are going in, in a certain angle, when on top and that angle needs to be in the opposite direction. Missionary for example, gives the right angle going in. Or laying on your side and the guy coming in from behind. Different positions, different angles. You are not making any sense. Ok. Whatever you want. Why not? Nowadays most people have sex long before they go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:27 PM
2

Almost all women I had sex with had an easy time stimulating their A spot when they were on top. My ex would cum in a minute and had several vaginal orgasms back to back. Ok. Honey...they were exaggerating. It's physically impossible to reach that spot while on top. Look it up. You are the victim of women lying to make their guy feel better. It will give you one if you exchange him for a better, more attentive partner. Which isn't something I can pick, like I would pick a red-haired partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:20 PM
2

Tell him what you want him to do Thats speaking up Get on top and do your thing You don't hit any spot on top. Sure, some women can like it, but not because that hits the a-spot or g-spot. You are physically not capable of getting to those spots while on top. Stop him if he's shit. How does stopping him, give me an orgasm? It prevents him from getting an orgasm, it doesn't give me one. So in conclusion: you told me to speak up. Like what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:05 PM
10

Except that entire threat started because she said "since the fiasco with the guy that asked". So the number is obviously not zero. She described at least 1 situation in which that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:44 PM
19

....how many times are you expecting this to happen????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:42 PM
4

They can speak up and take control to explore it. Honey, I speak up. And it's still entirely up to the guy. When people talk about control, they don't typically consider people that can speak up as the one's in control. "Hey, I have control of the nuclear missile codes, because I can speak up and NOT vote for you if you don't listen to me speaking up!" Their ability is limited to speaking up, not much they can do bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:37 PM
4

But they can't control whether or not they can taste chocolate. That's all the guy. They can however get vanille whenever the fuck they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:01 PM
14

As someone that gets both orgasms: they're really different sensations. Penetrative orgasm isn't clitoral orgasm but stronger, it's a different sensation all together. So you can't go "I think they would enjoy that one more", just like you can't say that people would like chocolate more then vanilla if they just tried chocolate. It's different, people have their own preferences. And a lot of time, they still occasionally prefer the one that's not their favorite. Also people like control a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:16 PM
2

Men...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:00 PM
4

All but one woman who has become my gf started as a FWB for me (8 women total). Now some of them kept the hot and kinky sex up after the romantic relationship started, but others almost cut it off immediately like a light switch and moved to purely love making (which is nice and passionate, but not as fun and I need both to be fulfilled in a relationship), and no one got kinkier or more enthusiastic with a relationship. I’d say it’s about half for me that got less enthusiastic. And you do not se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:19 PM
13

Honestly: Noooooooo!!!! Like yall are acting so fucking strange about marriage and casual sex. I get that yall want casual sex and that it sucks that you can't have it when you want it. I get that. Casual sex is on a pedestal for men. But why do yall keep acting like you'll have more sex in a casual relationship? More passionate sex? More experimental sex? It's so fucking weird. Why are you TRULY believing that the sluts who give anal on the first date won't have anal sex in a marriage? She's bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:09 PM
2

I think that a big difference is that men typically give up the reason for rejection without being asked for it and women typically give out the reason for rejection after being badgered for it (and half the time it's a fucking lie) or to make the guy leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:28 PM
2

People already don't excuse the second example, let alone worse. And we excuse the first example because it's the internet. I remember when getting nasty messages in your inbox was still an actual talking point, something we tried to solve. Now we just accept that as things that happen if you go online. People don't want to attack online behavior, because we can't do shit about it without compromising online anonymity and we don't want to do that. So bad behavior online? Different rules. And gho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:42 PM
2

That book, sounds like a girl that got tricked/manipulated and is trying to justify her way out of it. You know, like how someone can buy a share of a vacation home and they can never go for some reason or another but it's still a great investment!!! No it's fucking not, but they don't want to feel like they got tricked. And that your girlfriend resonates with this book, sounds like her ass needs to go to therapy. Or not...because the denial keeps a lot of us functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:48 PM
2

Because you are not judging them for this behavior, you are saying that if you sleep around, you will do this behavior. Whore. Or not a whore. Extreme or other extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:01 PM
0

Because in that scenario, I'm not a person. I'm a whore or not a whore. No personality, motivation, character, morals, ..., to influence what I do. Just whore or not a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:41 PM
2

I said I need something and that most men only provide gifts as a something. Attention/quality time? "Women are so annoying". "Women are so demanding."."Why do I need to do shit, I want to game.". Physical touch? Yall ruin that in advance by making it clear that that's not love, it's sex. Acts of service? A man? To a woman? A man? Gifts are the only thing yall consistently do to show love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:51 PM
10

The argument against porn and unrealistic expectations is about the actual sex they're having.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:36 PM
3

Because it's an expression of love that's easy to do in a consistent way. Like, other expressions of love would also be welcome, but I don't know many guys that express consistent love in another variation. Generally: you get gifts or you get nothing. The gifts is us already settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:12 PM
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That just sounds like a different flavor of the same shit that OP is trying to pull. And...it doesn't really seem great. You still sound mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:50 PM
1

The point is, that there is either yes or no, before or after, and that's not human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:48 PM
8

I dont want to demand shit I don't actually want. You bring me home take-out? I'm happy. You bought me a book of 7 dollar? I'm happy. A compliment that my homecooking is fucking awesome instead of going out. Etc. But it's shitty as fuck, when that becomes a relationship standard. When I suddenly want to go to a fancy restaurant and then I'm told "I thought you weren't like that". When I want an actual good pretty ring for marriage and it's "But you don't want fancy things". And it turns into fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:28 PM
5

You do understand, that we need to spend A HELL OF A LOT more time with a husband then a hook-up. I can understand thinking that we're using hook-ups for money, but in order to use a husband for money, I would need to give up all my dreams, love, time, can't come home and relax because coming home is working for the money since my husband is work. Like just constantly having a job, no time to relax, no off time. Like ???? And yall are so very convinced that this is happening on a large scale. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:03 PM
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WE FUCKING KNOW!!! Like, we know. And this isn't a universal male experience. Women also have these experiences. Maybe not literally the "wife material" over the "slut experience", but what if he dates us because he doesn't need to do as much for us as for other girls, what if he dates us because he can't get the girl he actually wants, what if he dates us because we we're just there? The issue is not you being afraid of this. It's a valid fear. Yes, watch out for this. VALID! The issue is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:36 PM
2

Money. The only actual possibility here. The other doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:40 PM
2

Which isn't them wanting it. No reasonable person would go "yeah, that's what I want!". That's ALSO bad. And it's not something we need to imagine, because a lot of you are actually doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:59 AM
4

It has nothing to do with women and everything to do with almost NO ONE wanting to get settled down at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:48 AM
1

The stereotype didn't exist until very recently. If anything, THEY created the stereotype by saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:03 AM
2

YUP! Still, look at them through the lens of fetish play. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:20 PM
1

Women being told they can have careers and be caretakers simultaneously. All the time I read about career focused mothers who are burned out. It's actually a problem. We should stop telling people they can do it all and have it all, cause it's ruining people's life satisfaction and happiness. I saw what it did to my own mother. That's not really them thinking that they can... that's not having another good option. If you REALLY want kids (which a lot of people do) and you aren't rich, then you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:02 PM
3

Most women in the past, were not agreeable. Like even stereotypes talk about that... "the old balls and chains"...yeah that sure sounds like an agreeable woman??? The vast majority of agreeable women came from abusive husband's. It's not that women were more agreeable, it's that getting hit was more common. If you weren't willing to hit your wife in the past, you also didn't get an agreeable woman. And I really REALLY think that our modern idea of "old fashioned = agreeable", comes from the fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:01 PM
4

They do and they don't. Men want it all, without realising that they want it all. And I don't even think that it's them being ego-centric, because they've been told all their life that this is possible. They never took the time to consider whether their wants were possible, because they got told it was. Like... I've had wrong beliefs that were told to me since childhood. They're STUPIDLY hard to get out of your head. That's not their fault, it's the fault of the people that got that idea in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:52 PM
1

Y'all want to make everything about intent and then you play games about "not knowing" or "misinterpreting" or "bad communication", so that your intent is still in the clear, while you were keeping yourself in the dark in order to keep your intent clear. And then you suddenly think that's not acting in bad faith? I think yall are worse then the guys that do the pump and dump in the way yall describe it. They're a fuckton more honest. At least they aren't looking for loopholes to exploit and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:25 AM
4

You quoted why it doesn't apply to women???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:03 AM
1

And then suddenly it doesn't count if the guy deludes himself into thinking that he wasn't gonna?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:03 AM
1

I've never been that into anyone and I'm married This is why I hate being straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:31 PM
1

You just weren't that into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:10 PM
2

First off, that sentence should be longer. "Every instance of 2 people having sex after dating seriously, yet one person gets dumped after 1 fuck and the other person is clueless as to why". And no, because the genders are a bit different. You don't need to deceive men into thinking that you are more serious about them then you are, in order to get them to fuck you. A lot of men are vocally fine with already beginning the sex, before being truly committed, even while they're attempting to date s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:39 PM
1

I do think this way, because a shitton of men play that game that you are playing. The game of "I'm not responsible for the hurt that I cause with my actions, if I didn't set out to hurt people", while simultaneously trying your very best to remain ignorant, even to ridiculous lengths sometimes, in order to facilitate that inability to know that it could have hurt people. Fuck that, I'm not playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:31 PM
2

It's still bad faith and trying to ignore the malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:16 PM
0

Yeah they didn't like them. Yup. “only wants to have a relationship with me and no one else.” ...why the fuck would I be having sex with him otherwise?????? That's serious relationship minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:11 PM
2

If they have sex early in the relationship, then they are usually aware that the other person isn't that into them, because they haven't had the time to be into them. Unless someone lied about it. So yeah, no deception there. But I already excluded those relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:09 PM
2

They absolutely fucking do, but people generally aren't clueless about them. Which is required for them to mistake a dealbreaker for a pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:06 PM
1

I was talking within the context of the OP, which is the pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:05 PM
0

Yeah I don't respond to nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:54 PM
1

Then there wasn't that big a spark anyway and then I wouldn't have fucked him if aware of that. Then he still deceived me about his interest. If a woman went on a few dates with a guy and liked him enough that she wanted to take it a step further, but after having sex with him, decided she was no longer into it, would you call that a pump-and-dump? Same bloody situation. Then she wasn't that into him. I wouldn't automatically call it a pump and dump though, because most guys keep telling me that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:53 PM
2

Do you think that that woman is gonna genuinely belief that you deceived her for sex? That she's not gonna connect the yelling to the reason she got dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:37 PM
1

So, sexual compatibility doesn’t matter? I’ve had sex with a guy and never again because I really didn’t enjoy it. Then you weren't that into him. If you were, you would have tried to make him better first. Or you would have known that's not possible because for example he has a really small dick. But the small dicked guy is very aware of his small dick, he's not gonna go "I got pumped and dumped". He's gonna know that there's a good chance that it's over his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:36 PM
1

What if the guy is seriously relationship-minded, but not with you? Yes! Exactly! That's what going on then! And he finds out you’re not the one after you had sex? No. Not a thing. and later they find out he has a girlfriend? Was he not relationship-minded? Not WITH THEM. That's a pump and dump. If he lost interest after 1 fuck, he must have been wishy-washy the whole time? What if the fuck clearly convinced him to dump you? Or is that inconceivable because every woman is an amazing lover? It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:31 PM
-3

Almost never isn’t never Agreed. But I'm not giving the benefit of the doubt for almost never. Furthermore, you can change your mind after sex rather often BULLSHIT! Absolute bullshit. We can all imagine "ew if he did that", but in reality, if you actually fucking like the guy and he did that, you would try to educate him into NOT doing that. I can belief a 3fuck dump over sexual incompatibilities, but not a 1fuck dump. A 1fuckdump = I wasn't that into you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:25 PM
2

You almost never change your mind that drastically after 1 fuck. If 1 fuck can change your mind, then you were already partway out the door. Do you really think that most women that want a serious relationship with their love interest, would fuck the dude for the first time after being told that he's not that sure about the relationship? They're thinking he's a lot more interested in them, then how he actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:13 PM
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Except I wouldn't have sex with someone that's not relationship minded, that wants to have a serious relationship and settle down, someone that doesn't need to be convinced into having a relationship. As do the vast majority of women that are complaining about this phenomenon. And losing interest after 1 fuck is rare in those circumstances. If you can lose interest after 1 fuck, then you were already wishy/washy about the entire relationship, maybe you were trying to convince yourself into the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:10 PM
4

A man goes on dates with a woman, they have sex. Reflecting on the experience the next day, he decides he’s not that interested so he doesn’t call her back. Why is this not a pump and dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:19 PM
2

Honestly, there was nothing wrong with that a decade ago, 2 decades ago, 3 decades. But we currently have a sperm crisis going on, which has given a lot of men, a shorter window to decide to have kids, then women. You know all that advice that women get about "tic toc", "time is running out"? That applies to men too now. The sperm-count of a 20y old nowadays is the equivalent of a 40y old in the 80s. You'll never stop producing sperm, but if the quality goes down, birth defects increase and misc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:25 AM
2

Because it's false info. Younger has certain benefits and downsides, older has certain benefits and downsides. That age-range has almost all the downsides of both older and younger and very few benefits of it's own. That advice seems to be mostly based on men desiring women, not on what's best for the women. It's "you are still hot enough to find a guy and not so young to be stupid about picking a guy and men start to think about marriage from that age!!!". Which is very male-centric advice. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:18 AM
0

If a woman wants kids, I think she should prioritize marriage and kids before 30, ideally around 24-26 There's actually been studies on this and having kids at 24-26 absolutely DESTROYS your carreer path. Like, having them younger destroys your carreer even more, but that's mostly because the vast majority of the younger group ends up a single parent and you don't have support to get an education or to get a job. Since we're talking about marriage and kids, so not single parenghood, then the you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:12 AM
1

A bit much... Just the repeated kick in the bills I guess? And that it hard to make the kicks stop once they've started. Doesn't need to escalate to broken bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:25 PM
1

Yeah but like, you should also account for this being autistic women and not normie women. Painful with a chance of being maimed is already true for normie women, but they have lower odds. With autistic women, you have the added factor that they have an even much harder time getting away if they end up unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:08 PM
1

It's bad enough, I'll allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:15 PM
3

They are autistic, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:27 AM
2

Yes it can, because it's a human need and the ability to choose not too is heavily compromised by it being a need. It's basically: option A you hurt yourself or option B someone else hurts you and you have a tiny chance of a good outcome. It's incredibly dishonest to call that a true choice. Imagine being able to get sex on demand, but you have a 70% risk of getting your dick cut off if you have sex. You can choose to not have sex and not have that risk, but your need for sex doesn't go away. Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:07 AM
3

I have heard it said (a lot) that women and girls are harder to diagnose because they naturally mask better, and I've no reason to doubt the accuracy of that. Why not? Female autism looks differently. Teachers aren't educated on what female autism looks like. You call it "naturally mask better", I call it "doesn't look like male autism". So... if women and girls are able to mask that so well that they don't even get diagnosed, isn't that logically less debilitating than the same experience as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:03 PM
3

Do they need to get called out there? Look at what happened when safe spaces for incels got deleted. Venting spaces are actually a good thing. What I'm talking about, is not accepting these feminists that are bad that are vocal about it and trying to organize. And I kinda also want to judge whether what you are talking about is actual misandry because for example, "fear of men" is often labeled as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:48 PM
4

The joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:06 PM
1

You are just having a monologe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:06 PM
2

Are the republicans trying to distance themselves from the MAGA trumpers? Your ideology might not change but you might not want to be so associated with them? This happens within feminism though? The TERFS for example are massively hated. Feminists don't want to get associated with TERFS and vocally denounce them as feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:31 PM
1

Why even rant at me, like seriously. You were not interested in a debate since the beginning, started out from the high offense and tried to catch me in a gotcha! You are exactly what I expect of an egalitarian that's against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:26 PM
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the spike in Autism has largely been caused by women having children later in life, Old sperm heightens the chance of autism. Old eggs heightens the chance of downs. and autism primarily effects boys as opposed to girls. No, women are not getting diagnosed as much. Sometimes that's by design. My country for example, is somewhat socialistic and there are documents from the 80s where they describe not having to put effort into female autistic children, because they can just marry and be fine, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:24 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:13 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:10 PM
5

We do. We call them "not feminists"/"fake feminists"/"TERFS"/... They get excluded from examples. We don't acknowledge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:09 PM
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It was already addressed and you didn't counter it. So you can read my answer in the comment you replied too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:07 PM
1

and a member of that political party does insane shit some day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:55 PM
7

Do you think anyone that doesn't like feminism is a misogynist? Yes. Think about it like this: you are in favor of a certain political party and a member of that political party does insane shit some day and the other members want to exclude that person and want to kick them out of the party. And afterwards, the opposition keeps saying that that person represents the political party, because they were a member while they did the crazy things and because they keep being vocal about how they are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:14 PM
5

In my youth, I considered those men ideal partners assume that he is a misogynist and wants to uphold patriarchy. But with experience...yeah this is true. Is there any proper way to work for men's rights and still have a successful dating life? Hold the misogynists in your group accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:06 PM
2

Already described
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:14 AM
2

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:08 AM
2

Your conclusions are. But like, it's the same as everyone else. It's the same as me. It's Johnny Depp???? Hard fucking pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:58 AM
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Dude... x
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:54 AM
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Fans unsealed documents for 3K. Most of the unsealed documents incriminate Depp. Not enough to make him guilty, but enough to doubt that Amber was without a doubt the abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:47 AM
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It's part of the files people paid 3K for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:31 AM
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Yeah, that's the audio I'm talking about. That has been cut up. Depp is refusing to provide the entire thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:16 AM
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Lack of representation is not anti-representation. I'm not using "anti-representation" as "lack of representation". I'm using "anti-representation" as a "vocal movement that wishes to spread the message that this is ugly". It might've started that way. But what it has turned into... well I'll just quote the relevant academic literature: And as soon as the anti-representation stops, all of that goes away. You have provided no evidence. so you resort to projecting and calling me a bully. Lie harde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:06 AM
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There's also tampering of evidence in the form of cutting up the audio evidence of Amber heard confessing, that wasnt allowed to be mentioned in court and he refused to produce the entire thing, there are a lot of pictures that showed him being abused that weren't allowed in court because he tampered with them, the cutting off finger event was faked, him talking about raping exes with Marilyn Manson wasn't allowed into evidence, him talking about "pulling an Amber Heard" on the ex of Marilyn tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:52 AM
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So you aren't up2date on the Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp situation eh? Might want to go to a news site.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:34 AM
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The representation goes away if you stop promoting anti-representation. For example, look at your smokers, they aren't getting representation because no one is bullying them or the burn victims, no representation because no bullying. Body positivity is just one big anti-bully campaign. If the bullying stops, it stops existing. The bullying is the only reason it exists. And again, we all know why you really do it. And I'm not gonna debate you on it, but I know. You aren't fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:11 AM
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Honey. Everyone knows why you wanna rag on fat people and it has nothing to do with taxes. You want your guilt-free bully target and you are upset at the representation because...now they're calling YOU out? Wtf? And you just suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:38 AM
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He's unreasonable. I don't even understand how he managed to get that ONCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:34 PM
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Not even a technical school certificate? That doesn't count as educated per the statistics I'm talking about. So having a technical school certificate = uneducated and a risk factor. Yes. If you see that someone is married and divorced previously, they are a yellow flag for sure. They are a high risk factor. You may choose to ignore that risk, that's your choice, that doesn't change the statistic. But if you're really interested in this person it doesn't have to be a deal breaker. I didn't list …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:06 PM
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What if you are 40? Like... 40y old people can also look at my suggestions and get sad. That's not something you can control either. And getting educated... I would not say that that's completely in your control either. Socio-economics matter A LOT in whether or not you get that opportunity. Also...what if you just don't get born with enough intelligence? Or focus? But telling someone "stay in your bad marriage because nobody of substance will have you" doesn't set right. And this is a silly con…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:48 PM
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It's not a punishment, I also mentioned "get educated and marry someone educated", uneducated people aren't less valuable to society or in need of punishment by refusing to marry them. But they are risk factors, just as people who have gotten a divorce already are risk factors. That's even one of the biggest risk factors there are. A bigger risk factor then uneducated people getting married. And the argument of "Look at them individually" can be applied to ANY of my suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:27 PM
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Marriage counseling, even during the good times. Get educated and marry someone educated, between the ages of 25-35 (for both of you). Limit age gaps to 5years max and be aware that this already increases risk. Don't marry someone who has already been married. And then there is the obvious life compatibility you need to watch out for, but that's so broad yet needs to be specifically tailored...no random can advice you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:28 PM
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They are, well...where I'm from they were. As in, a few years ago, you didn't need the internet to get that dislike of trans people validated, but nowadays...you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:28 PM
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Yeah, but that wasn't what I was comparing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:24 PM
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Yeah but people of color are part of the people that already had people hating them before representation, so giving them representation didn't come with vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:07 PM
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Also a lot of representation comes with anti-representation and it can be "not worth it". A lot of the people that are pushing for representation now and getting it now, already had anti-representation, so it was almost only benefits. But to bring back the burn victim...is representation a good thing if it also comes with voices trying to undermine your confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:52 PM
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I think it’s because a lot have not been represented as much Not as much representation, but also not as much representation of the people that vocally say they're not attractive. Like for example, burn wound victims, those people are not represented...at all. But they also don't have massive amounts of people trying to educate them about their ugliness in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:34 PM
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Every single time men talk about unrealistic body standards it goes back to fatties. And that's the fucking exception, because everything goes back to fatties. We can't ever stop talking about the fatties. I have no idea why some people are so convinced that fat people don't know that fat isn't hot, while they can't stop talking about it. How is body posivity supposed to mold their unrealistic expectations, when you and people like you, are always there to go "but actually you are ugly". ???? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:08 PM
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I would argue that internet communities are the bigger issue. Like, the other day, we had a guy on PPD asking, talking about how he really liked this girl, but she didn't want to have sex with him until in a relationship and he was all "but it's too soon, I rather hang and have sex for 4-7 months before deciding that, what if the sex is bad?" and there were comments disagreeing with him, but also plenty of comments agreeing with him. Before the internet, if you had a batshit insane relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:27 PM
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Yall really call normal decent guy relationship stuff, going "above and beyond" and then you are surprised that women would rather party first? You aren't exactly offering anything good here. Calling stuff like sending a message every day "going above and beyond", means that your "normal" doesn't include that. And people aren't giving their 100% all the fucking time, so that "normal" happens a lot. Every relationship has long periods of time where people are giving "normal" effort and not "above…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:29 AM
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They have sexual desires too. So if you are in a sexless marriage...something happened that made them either stop experiencing sexual desire or stop acting on them. And a lot of men respond to this, with...well you have too! And then you are turning it into a chore and now you have 2 problems to solve. 1: whatever mysterious thing that caused her sexual desire to drop in the first place and 2: making her think of sex again in terms of fun instead of chore. Because she's able to chore her way thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:43 AM
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Also average is overweight. I explicitly said skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:55 PM
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https://previews.123rf.com/images/nstanev/nstanev1502/nstanev150200007/36393633-average-middle-aged-woman-smiling-at-the-camera-.jpg This is the face of an average skinny white woman. Some minor flaws. More then 1, but none of them terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:45 PM
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Compared to other celebrity beauties, perhaps, that's a question of taste and thus subjective. But when you compare her to everyday folks...like I also walk around? I have female friends. I have female coworkers. I know that that type of beauty is rare. And you might go "it's not that hot" and that's something you can perceive because you don't like her features, but if you say she's just regular/average, that you see SOOO many girls just like her, that its so common that its just average: that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:29 PM
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...that just means, that you filter out the uglier women????
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:22 PM
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The only way that that's possible, is if you can't see the unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:21 PM
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More attractive, yeah...but almost nobody that's unattractive is gonna be a celebrity. If they can write songs and they're unattractive, then they write songs for the unattractive. If they're funny and unattractive, they become the writers. They need to fight HARD to be unattractive and try to keep their own stuff to try and be a celebrity. And because of that, the vast majority of celebrities, start at a 7. With A LOT of talent a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:20 PM
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You say this... And then you don't understand why we call yall standards high as fuck? You seriously belief that the basic English girl looks like Emma Watson?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:16 PM
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That's not mindreading, that's stuff like him using females instead of women in a sentence where that doesn't make sense, like "the females at my workplace..." and knowing that that's not proof enough, but being pretty damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:00 PM
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Just a dating program through the doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:16 AM
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1 random autistic guy and 1 random autistic girl: no. But if you put them together in a room of a 100 autistic people, they're more likely to find a match then in a room with a 100 normies. Which is part of the problem, because they can find 1 random autistic girl. That's not an issue. You need a bunch of them though. That doesn't really occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:55 PM
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The UK is having a trial to fix that problem and their solution is not a coaching program. 70% of autistic males are not ever dating and coincidentally, 70% of autistic females are in abusive relationships. The problem isn't that autistic males can't woo "normal" women, the problem is that they can't meet autistic females and they're getting snatched up by abusers. So the UK is trialing autistic dating programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:34 PM
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Did you know that the statistics for autism and dating for men are as follows: 70% of autists dont ever get in a relationship over a lifetime. Congrats on being in the 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:15 PM
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Because she's refusing sex without commitment. Let's say you find a way to sidestep that: the same kind of drama as if you had commitment first. You can't just sidestep the drama like that. You are avoiding drama because you are fucking with girls that don't think sex is something special. This girl does think it's special. And she's gonna drama just as hard if the commitment was there or not. She's probably gonna drama less if there was commitment and some show of an attempt to have commitment …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:09 PM
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OK, but with this girl that's obviously different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:02 PM
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And you think that wouldn't fucking happen here if she does have sex before a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:52 PM
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????? And what does a relationship change about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:01 PM
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No I'm not, but do you really think that that's the fucking standard???? Really???? Like I don't even think that men would put up with being told to wait for 4-7 months to decide whether they're good enough for a relationship, while also having sex and we know how much men vocally say that they don't mind getting used for sex. Let's be honest, they're gonna stay for the sex, but the relationship is off the table. I don't know how he's managing that, but they probably need therapy, because that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:02 AM
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I'm just trying to understand the logic because I believe the sex/intimacies to be a large counterpart of a couple. Yes. Of a couple. You aren't a couple yet, you are explicitly refusing to be a couple. Which you can do, but why are you then surprised when other people are refusing to do all couples things with you? For me to make this commitment not knowing if the sex would be any good seems outrageous to me because what if its bad? Then you break up? It's just a relationship... there's no forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:49 AM
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It's not a strategy. For the vast majority of people, sex is still more intimate then dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:14 AM
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It's a fucking relationship, you are not putting a ring on that finger. Why do you need 4-7months to decide that???? Especially if you are already having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:13 AM
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Yes, it is on you. She's ready for sex the moment you want a relationship and she's ready for a relationship right now. It would be different if she would only have sex in a relationship, but it's too soon for a relationship, then she's making you wait. But you are the one with the limitations that are stopping the sex from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:11 AM
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So you don't want to rush a relationship...but you don't understand her not wanting to rush sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:50 AM
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and then we dated for about 4-7 months before becoming GF/BF I don't know where the fuck you are growing up, but that would firmly place you in the fuckbuddy zone for me and 0 chance of becoming gf/bf. 4-7 months???? At that point you just only like the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:49 AM
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She isn't letting you wait though... You are letting yourself wait. Like, there's no time limit on jumping in a relationship. You can meet someone for 10seconds and mutually decide to get into a relationship. The reason you are waiting, is because you don't want to get into a relationship, that's not her making you wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:45 AM
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I once heard that the 1st one is surprisingly hard, with the 2nd one you are again surprised, because you think that you got a handle on shit because you've done this before... but you don't because you underestimated the effort of having a baby and a toddler at the same time and that every kid after that one is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:11 PM
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I'm kind of addressing OP, who I assume is male and who apparently hates chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:31 PM
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If you don't want to do chores after going to work: DONT HAVE KIDS?!?!?!? Either you both have jobs and then you can hire a cleaning lady or one of you has a job and the other does chores. That's the magic solution: no kids. Just don't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:18 PM
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Well I was under the impression that we were talking about teen girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:58 AM
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Learn2Read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:47 AM
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The last time I heard this, it was about cryptocurrency and how so few women were betting on crypto and stocks were stupid...followed by a crash and the majority of them losing money, because they had only jumped on the crypto train after it had gotten into the news a couple of times and by then, the big boom was over. So what thing are women doing now that's so stupid according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:43 AM
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It depends on the friend group, but judging will happen. Like imagine being in high school and liking fat chick's. Like really really really fat. Morbidly obese. What would happen if you show her to your friend group? That's what happens with women for about every guy we date, because everyone has a bloody opinion and almost none of them have the same opinion. So I can have a hot guy that most of my friends approve off and getting side-eyed by other friends for picking looks over personality. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:09 AM
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It's not for jealousy, it's for approval. They want the friends to think you are a great guy so that she doesn't get shit for dating you or advice for breaking up or getting set up with other guys. It happens when she knows there's something that her friends will disapprove off, whether superficially like looks or out of genuine concern like abusive behavior and she wants to get ahead of the situation. Or they just really really really like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:55 AM
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Yeah and like... Our grandfather's in the war, WROTE hard-core literotica home. We know this. This is documented. We have multiple such letters. Yet, when I encounter one of these posts of "I don't want women want (sexually)" and I ask them if they've ever read erotic literature...50 shades of Grey, another book, fanfiction, dirty anonymous, literotica entries,... the answer is always no. So grandpa could write dirty shit for months on end and this generation can't even manage to read a stupid 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:56 PM
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Ok, but did you ever get a chance to grow other ways of sexual stimulation? In the past, yall just had magazines and did just fine. You thought about girls, instead of pulling her Instagram up. A lot of mental stimulation. Like...it's just one of my personal theories, that one of the reasons that the genders aren't currently getting on so much, is because men can't relate to the female experience anymore, because of porn. Before, you might not have liked erotica as much, would have preferred vis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:39 PM
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F*ck me this is the Olympic trials of mental gymnastics. ... And then he proceeded to do backflips all over the fucking room.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:31 PM
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I didn't say that a lot wasn't. But it's not ethical as long as it doesn't require 2party consent. You are NOT only watching couples who post it themselves. Like, porn was making massive strides in becoming ethical in the 80s. Then the internet happened and free porn became available and all of that didn't just stop, it turned back the clock on all progress made. In some ways it even got worse then before. Which makes sense, because people aren't doing this shit for free. They want to get paid. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:20 PM
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Are you paying for porn? If not, throw the chances of it being ethical away. And amateur? Do you really think that you are only watching videos that are uploaded with approval of both partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:03 PM
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People were extreme in the 90s. Heroine chique was in, so 90% of the women felt fat as that's the ideal. And everyone's mom was trying to convince their daughter to ONLY drink food to get to that weight. The mother of Bella Hadid is a 90s mom and she's known for trying to make her daughter's only eat 1 wet almond when they're hungry. It's like...currently not that extreme. That's what I'm saying. The familial fatphobia atm is chill. I remember worse and that version still doesn't compare to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:00 AM
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I'm from the 90s... you got criticism as long as you weren't Katie Moss size. No they can't replicate the amount you get online, because that's ALL they can say in order to even come close and girl, walk away?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:53 AM
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?????
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:47 AM
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The vast majority of fat phobia isn't coming from people you know. Like a mom or an aunt or a friend isn't gonna nonstop be going "ya fattie" but online does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:45 AM
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It's not that their value increase, I would even say that their value decreased. They have less time to spend on their husband, more likely to have extra weight compared to not working, they get stressed and that has effects such as losing some libido, they have their own money to force decisions about their own body such as wanting short hair even though their husband disapproves and they have less time to spend on grooming overall and might even wear casual clothes on the daily for work. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:43 AM
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I very much approve of some women also doing this and not feeling ashamed about it. YouGoGirl That doesn't mean I want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:38 AM
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Dude is selling a pyramid scheme. His site? Pyramid scheme. He's famous for for the same reason that lulu lemon and other MLMs got famous: people are trying to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:14 AM
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I was more so talking about occupation/financial, height, dick size, and whatever else makes a person average. I know. But yall keep thinking that (what you just wrote) isn't enough for women and that's why yall keep getting rejected... and at the same time, the vast majority of average guys: consume free porn, like you can just pay this minimal amount and not be a passive participator in so much abuse that porn brings....but no. Or they justify "boys will be boys" when it's used to defend haras…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:44 PM
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Why not create a system where the mother should submit bills of child care and the govt reimbursed. Because then we can't go cheap on giving them money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:34 PM
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How is that an outlier???? I kinda don't know how to ask this without being offensive, but I seriously how that can be an outlier, unless you don't give a shit when you hurt people? Because that's just regular life? Is it common...hopefully not, but that happens when you grow up and learn shit. Having those experiences is normal as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:16 PM
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I could say the same about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:43 AM
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I have never cared for longer then a week about shit that didn't go my way, even though I did nothing wrong, but shit where I accidentally harmed someone? I'm still not over that. They guide what I do now, to make sure that that doesn't happen again. So I really don't see how that's logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:56 AM
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That feeling is only very momentary though. Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:22 AM
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You are missing the part where he says "after childbearing years", which is the major fault in his argument. he's comparing people born in the 70s to women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:50 AM
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An average man is STILL a good man and there's nothing wrong with average. Based on what? Because my experience with an average man is him telling me to lighten up, him telling me I'm overreacting, when I express fear for my safety when going on online dates. Him saying I'm silly if I say I rather not date. And him getting upset if I actually stop dating for those reasons because "what about all the good guys that have done nothing wrong?".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:45 AM
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In the first case you might begin to wonder: are there no good partners out there? Probably you are disappointed and somewhat tired of dating maybe. That is it. That's not why people say that rejecting someone feels bad. It's because you feel bad for doing it. Imagine having to do something that you think makes you a bad person, repeatedly, with limited control over it. For example...punching someone in the face? Imagine that you are in the unique position, that by punching someone in the face w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:40 AM
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If it's just heckling however, that was also the case in white collar jobs. Sexism and heckling were common af in office spaces but women fought and changed that. What's stopping them fighting the sa.e in blue collar jobs? That we don't have to anymore, if we want to have a chance at a decent life? Provide an alternative, and people aren't very willing to fight. It isn't that there's men willing to do it for cheap unless you're implying that men are underpaid I'm implying that male labor is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:57 PM
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The men would work together, the women constantly arguing over who should clean the gutter.. Studies suggest that men only do this, when there aren't women in the room. So yeah...you would work together, studies say this, but your perception of "shit not getting done" when there's women involved, is faulty. When groups are mixed, the majority of jobs will get done by women and men for the most part, stop volunteering and stop participating unless there is a direct ask for a male helper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:42 AM
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Men still gatekeep a lot of those jobs. Men do all the difficult jobs, but the men on those jobs also complain like mad if a women joins that job, because "women can't handle it and i need to pick up her slack". Which isn't a fun environment to work in and you typically spend 40hours on your job, every week. Those areas also typically have a male culture of dirty jokes, sexism jokes, racist jokes, ... which women have to deal with if want to do that job OR LEAVE. And yeah, women leave over that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:23 AM
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Attractive isn't a big enough deal to share. Like, I can get with sharing.... if it means we're sharing chores and I need to do less. If she's cute and I wanna fuck her too. If he's Hella rich and I never have to do chores again, 0 chores for life.. But JUST attractive? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:54 AM
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If you are aware of this, you could just skip the whole rules/placebo bs and get on with your life, yet you defend rules you think are useless anyways? Because then I would be too terrified to date. I need the lies to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:31 PM
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Yeah, but if there's too many options, then I'm not having access to the quality compatible people either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:58 AM
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They are vetting for those things, but just like you are saying that some men just shoot their shot at everyone, do some men pretend to be reliable/... until they have gotten what they want. And I think you aren't getting a part of women's choices when they do those things. Because you are suggesting that they do B instead of A. That A is bad because it's imperfect. We don't have an supply issue, we have an abundance problem, so we can have 10 rules, 20 rules, a 100 rules, ... and that serves 2f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:42 AM
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have abs ??????? Sir...women typically have a uterus in that location... You aren't seriously suggesting that it's equally as hard or easier for women to have abs then the gender that doesn't have an extra organ sitting there?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:18 AM
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You get that that belief, doesn't come from dating advice, right? Yes, it has something to do with dating, because it's the opposite of what men desire and yall get offended by it. But they're not saying that to women, thinking it's great dating advice. They say that to women, knowing it's bad dating advice, but placing other issues as more important. If you want to argue that they are wrong, then its not sufficient to say "this is bad for relationships", because they know. You aren't disagreein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:41 AM
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I love that you were so quick to give your version of #notallmen, that you gave a comment filled with shit that the commenter wasn't even talking about. Shows that it's just a knee-jerk reaction of "how dare you even say a negative story about men".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:49 PM
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Okay that makes a lot more sense to me. But by that statistic, that means condoms are, even when taking into account wrong usage, 98.25 effective, and that .28% adds up over 104 times to equal 30%. No they're not. There's a reason why they picked that way to describe the statistic. Women aren't able to get pregnant a 100% of the time and they're not gonna get pregnant a 100% of the time when you are having sex during the window where you can get pregnant. The ages of the women also matter a lot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:50 PM
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No, they do not. Poland fucking does. USA makes it hard to prevent pregnancy and abortion and doesn't have structures in place to afterwards help these women out of welfare. That's not encouragement, that's a trap
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:40 PM
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This is such a weird statistic to me. Does that mean that someone who has sex 104 times a year and a person who has sex once a year have the same likelihood of getting pregnant if they use condoms? Oh yeah, sorry forgot that parameter. Sex twice a week. That's why abortion should be legal. Esp if you are using condoms & assume its safe, you won't know your preggo until you missed your period, in which case its too late for plan b. Abortion is a plan C/last resort methode for a reason. You can no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:38 PM
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Condoms are 70% safe in real life conditions, which is the only statistic that matters when it comes to birth control. Yeah it's 95% safe in a lab, it's not gonna get used in a lab. People are gonna use these things when horny, when drunk, when distracted, ... That's part of how we need to judge birth control use (because condoms aren't the only birth control with this problem). So that means that 30 out of a 100 women aged 18-25 will get pregnant after using condoms as sole birth control, after…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:18 PM
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...almost all countries with a huge welfare system, don't have as much of a single parent problem. The lack of welfare in education and medication is the issue. People aren't being told how birth control works to the extend of being able to pick the best one for them, they can't afford the multiple doctors visits that it requires to get those lessons from a doctor and they can't afford reliable birth control. You could even argue that the for profit adoptive systems are the issue, as they have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:04 PM
0

Almost none of the women haters ever say they hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:14 PM
1

I'm not gonna respond to 1 single event, because if I wanted to defend genocide, I can find +20 events to justify that. I don't know why it is so hard to understand. Because it's all about you. You find that romantic and admirable. You want to do that for your love. And her desires be damned. It's not romantic, it's peak: men not caring about the actual women they interact with, but them giving the world to their fantasy version of her. I'm 30. It's not fun anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:53 PM
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Because it's a male fantasy? As I've been saying since the beginning? I'm arguing that men should NOT do this, repeatedly. Why does that mean, that I should think that women have to do this? I'm calling it stupid... It won't suddenly stop being stupid if women do it. Scroll the fuck up. You should have known my response to this, as it's not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:18 PM
1

If you have to make up an example that excludes 99% of alternative possibilities, that's not logical. That's being dead set on trying to make your argument work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:00 PM
1

Then don't die??? You can ignore the fantasy and the urge. You can be the parent that lives and take care of the kids. DO THAT!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:51 PM
1

So again, it's just about you? The man gets to be selfish and label it as heroic and we women are just supposed to play along and I'm supposed to validate this as true love. It's not. It's a male fantasy. It's all about what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:46 PM
2

Lol a million times ha, of course she does, women lose all "love" once their man is unable/unwilling to protect her. If she loves you, she does not want you to die. Either you are sacrificing yourself for someone that doesn't love you or you are sacrificing yourself for someone that doesn't want you to sacrifice yourself. I am not jumping in front of bullets because I am suicidal, I am doing it because it is the only way I can save her. How about going for the gun and she runs away??? Like I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:23 PM
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What? you can hire a chef as well, how is this making any sense? Because no one is calling cooking once an extraordinary feat of love. The difference is of course that we dream of it, we want nothing more than to sacrifice to protect you, that is why we love, we get fuzzies of course thinking about I 100% belief this, because it is all about you. She is not wanting you to do this. You want to do this. That is just dumb, and again selfish "the I am overwhelmed with feelings, I must end it". So it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:54 PM
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A) Take a bullet for your man? B) Not lose attraction that you had to take a bullet for your man? And he did not? How fucking male are these examples? And btw, just like you don't see female examples as love, I don't consider these love. You can hire a guy to do these things. You can hire a body guard. You can enlist men. These aren't examples of love, these are examples of stupidity. And what's the end result???? So you took a bullet, now what? Now you are death. And if she had that type of lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:24 PM
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Dude, in the vast majority of areas, marriage laws have already been changed. Some areas 20years ago. This was something desired by men and RICH men, so who the fuck did you expect to fight against that? Mr. Rick on the side corner complaining about not seeing his kids and paying HUGE amounts of child support? Probably lying or at the very least not informing you of important details such as: I agreed to this, but I was expecting to get out of child support completely by removing my rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:37 PM
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Jobs that are associated with intelligence typically are stereotyped as being sex negative. Programmers, Engineers, STEM majors in general have pretty well known stereotypes of them rarely having sex if at all. And other intelligent jobs like doctors, CEO's and politicians are known for being manwhores. The problem with STEM majors isn't their intelligence, it's lack of women around. There's not enough women for an office romance, which all of the other 3 are known for doing, there's not enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:30 PM
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I wasn't talking about men in terms of dating. I was saying that every fucking guy is an individual without issue. You are tiring me out. I'm already depressed enough today. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:46 PM
1

It's not even a comment related to women, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:20 PM
1

Men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:26 PM
1

Then all men are selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:18 PM
1

What kind of wife puts her career in front of her family. An individual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:13 AM
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No, they don't magically do that. But their previous behavior of prioritizing their own sexuality over a faceless guy in the future doesn't determine whether they do that or not. And yeah you were using husband's as a carreer. But anyway I'm done, Goodluck!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:45 PM
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Now you are using husbands as a carreer. Husband's, the carreer: are NOT fucking worth it. It's cheating, laundry, inability to act on ambition and overall detriment to your happiness. We do not like the concept of just getting any guy to have a husband. Husbands, the specific guy that you want to be your husband: that's the one that's worth it. And the dude isn't a priority, until he's in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:14 PM
1

Says the guy that suggests shit that dating apps are already doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:26 PM
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Adding improvements to detect AI, bots, scammers will help everyone. As I already addressed, focusing on issues that predominantly prey on one gender, helps everyone. You still need to adress women's issues, because THEY'RE LEAVING. Throwing a bone in the form of "hey, this bothers a majority of men but also a minority of women and we fixed it" isn't enough to stop them from leaving. They're not leaving over predominantly male issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:01 PM
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This isn't a fantasy example, it exists and we can observe what happens. Email, phone number, device, is enough imo for dating apps. And we can observe that this isn't enough because that's the current situation. All my points would help everyone overall. That's one of the major issues with letting men decide everything. They fix their issues and go "I'm helping everyone", because technically you would be fixing everyone's issues regardless of gender focus. If a male issue gets resolved: yeah, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:50 PM
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Men wouldn't sign up. We already have evidence of this, there are dating programs that have tried this, some even pre-excisting one's to tinder and they all have the same issue: a lack of men and an abundance of women. That doesn't change, that this would fix the problems. Want to date in a reverse tinder world? Be the exception that signs up to such a site. What i do agree with is human verification, as in you must privately upload pictures of ur face for verification and maybe some random pose…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:28 PM
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I am not suggestions that they change behavior. I'm saying that you can't prioritize a husband that doesn't exist. You are saying that they won't prioritize their husband because they're not priorizing an unknown male. No one...fucking...does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:02 PM
1

And? Where's the connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:56 PM
1

Which would again be helping mostly male issues while doing 0 for mostly female issues, even though women LEAVING is a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:44 PM
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We already have photo verification. Like, I understand that man's major issue with internet anonymity is women catfishing, but if you want to adress the biggest problem: which is the male/female ratio, you are going to have to adress women's issues. And also: we can already see the issues with using AI or remote verification to verify, by looking at what's happening now with photo verification. People are getting verified and then change all their pictures. If you have no way to keep people perm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:05 PM
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These women don't have husband's yet to prioritize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:33 PM
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The correct way would be, that I'm looking out for myself and protecting myself and taking care of my limits. I'm just more easily damaged when I'm interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:33 PM
2

Imagine being sad that other people aren't miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:21 PM
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Date seriously or get kicked off permanently. Either way, less bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:17 PM
2

Not treating you like a sexual creature isn't the same as thinking of you as a not sexual. If you read women's magazines there is absolutely zero interest in male sexuality - it's all about how to get off on sex, AF/BB. ...yes? It's a woman's magazine? Why would you expect that in a woman's magazine? Sex is about a women's identity now, and consequently sex isn't about the person they're having sex with. Yes! That still isn't behaving like men aren't sexual. It's not putting men's sexual satisfa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:15 PM
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Actual verification. You want an account? You need to go into an office, then you get your account. A lot of the problems we have, are internet anonymity problems. People act like jackassess without issues, because there are no consequences. Get kicked off the app? Who cares, just make a new one. Actual predatory behaviors are made easy, because now you have a victim a swipe away. Childish behavior? Again...why not? If you want to go back later and be serious, you can. So first thing that everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:57 PM
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No. That's not what's going on. Like, it's insane to think that women as a group aren't thinking of men as sexual creatures. Isn't a large amount of all posts on womens social media about JUST THAT? Talks about rape statistics and violence and men just using them? Women fucking know. We're told that since we're 12. That belief gets reinforced constantly. It's genuinely mind baffling that you think the opposite??? If there's one thing that IS NOT happening, it's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:35 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:24 PM
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...so they're using me for sex? I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:24 PM
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Female promiscuity is a consequence of your own actions of not rewarding women for being: Expect for good, virgin/very low n count, moral, non STI-infected women. If you do all of this as a woman, you receive the worst of the men in return. The man that thinks he is worth more then women because men just are. And the promiscuous women got...kind men eventually, loving men eventually, good lovers typically,... Not all. But they had a shot at that. ...if you are going to punish good behavior, expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:10 PM
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Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:10 AM
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Dude...seriously, how can you even consider that men are NOT being considered sexual beings???? It's the root of all sexism against men...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:08 AM
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women aren't treating men as sexual beings! ...what are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:50 PM
1

Stop making good guys mythological
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:24 PM
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If you want me to pick the nice guys, you gotta stop making their existence faith-based. I'm not religious and that extends to the religion of the mythical nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:14 PM
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How about, just some self protection. I know my limits, I stay within my limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:09 PM
1

Like the nice guys that say the shit you just typed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:00 PM
1

So tell Chad to give you an "O" first. Yeah that takes about 3 bloody fucks. So if you bail after the first one, I'm not getting anything and I'm still upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:52 PM
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I was talking about ORGASMS or pleasurable sex bro. Which takes about 3 fucks at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:47 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:33 PM
2

If you want to phrase it in the worst way possible, then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:04 PM
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If you don't attempt to give me equal ROI, it's using.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:03 PM
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It's not a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:00 PM
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It's called repressing yourself and it's not healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:56 PM
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Cuz getting used isn't fun. It seems you are both using each other for sex Yeah, this was the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:30 PM
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Because one of those is closer to malice and one is just part of the dating process figuring out if you like someone. And? My hurt is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:29 PM
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Nobody needs to be held accountable for feelings. Actions yes. Actions based on feelings yes. Feelings no. And who says I'm trying to control someone's intent? It hurts regardless of me trying to control them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:27 PM
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You gotta feel it to get it. Asking why it hurts more is like asking me why small burns hurt more then small cuts. I don't fucking know, but I can observe that it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:26 PM
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The difference is, that a lot of guys change their opinion on that after they've actually experienced that type of hurt. You thinking it would be better, is mostly based on lack of knowledge about how that shit hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:56 PM
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Yeah, I reckon most guys would too. But let's be honest, for most guys that's the goal of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:53 PM
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The sex is the difference. Like, you know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:50 PM
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And???? That's not a problem. You can think my personality isn't compatible, that's fucking fair. You can even come to that conclusion 5 years in. That's fucking fair. It's no fucking problem dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:25 PM
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It's a week???? If they can ghost: your ass doesn't know them and probably met them on some kind of site. Because if you got introduced, they can't ghost. If they're friends of friends, they can't ghost. Why the fuck would it hurt if some total stranger of a random ass site bolts after only a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:20 PM
1

Yeah I would be honest: "No, I haven't ".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:17 PM
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The yall is plural.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:17 PM
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Dude, that's just dating. That's just regular dating? If I would mind that, I wouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:49 PM
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So, you have a crappy circle of friends and that shapes your world view?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:42 PM
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It's kinda funny how I'm currently arguing with another dude, who is basically trying to argue me INTO feeling more responsible, while you are arguing that I'm feeling too responsible. Dude, those hurt feelings have nothing to do with control, it's hurt cuz I care. It doesn't do anything to my self worth, people can avoid hurt just because it's an unpleasant feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:38 PM
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When does that ever happen????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:34 PM
1

Who was talking about dislike?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:06 PM
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I'm ok with rejection for dating. I'm not ok with getting used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:03 PM
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Why do you think I care about the difference between "using me for sex" and "accidentally using me for sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:53 PM
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Maybe therapy would work a bit better for you, if you were trying to be open about a gentle approach. Like I don't know anyone of the "hard guard" that's genuinely happy in life. They usually turn into grumpy old farts, complaining that the youth has it "so easy". Meanwhile, everyone else is fucking improving, because that's life. You would need to work hard to remain stagnant. Like, really... everyone is just out there learning lessons, just by living their life and the few that don't are the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:26 PM
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Maybe you should reflect on why you are trying to convince people to behave in a way that's the opposite of advice that you would receive from therapists? Maybe your entire movement has some issues if it's build on tearing people down, instead of up. To look back and hate yourself is a pointless waste of time. It doesn't change the past, it doesn't do anything except cause you to make new present day mistakes that could be prevented. No one that has your best interest at heart would be advicing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:15 PM
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Yup. You didn't honestly expect me to hate myself over the actions of other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:00 PM
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Based on what? Men suddenly not being interested in me? I understand that this sub is overwhelmingly male and because of that a big echo chamber of male opinions, blue pill or red pill, doesn't matter, very male... But try to picture yourself in a woman's position and explain to me, how I'm actually getting hurt like that, without using "lost opportunities", because that never hurts as much as ACTUALLy getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:54 PM
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Yup. And? I'm not gonna volunteer to hurt myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:34 PM
1

You don't need to snooze, just stop swiping???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:36 PM
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Because if you didn't like them and they used you for sex, it's "that fucking asshole, (whine whine whine), but forgotten in 2ish weeks. If you like them and they used you for sex, it fucking hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:17 PM
2

This would lead to men feeling even more ignored, as they're seeing even more women who will never see their profile due to the high difference in male to female ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:51 AM
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Harassment, agressive behavior, turning shit sexual really quickly and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:45 AM
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Those women who just want to play validation and entertainment would to some degree be weeded out of Tinder. Based on what? Like...tinder promotes this type of behavior. They're more likely to stay on tinder then their serious counterparts. But many women who actually want something from tinder just dont use it seriously, bcuz they have a bad experience (that their matches are not truly interested). Yes...but you aren't thinking big enough if you think that "the matches not being truly intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:11 AM
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Exactly, they're not seriously using the app. Limiting their matches doesn't do shit, because they weren't serious to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:08 AM
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Dude....no. Nobody that's doing that is actually looking, because it's fucking impossible. They just playing if they're doing that and stopping the game doesn't make them serious. They go play something else then. And women that are seriously looking don't allow 20matches to happen at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:55 AM
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Hey, I'm not saying that 125 matches isn't possible, I'm saying that it's freaking hard to manage all those matches. They all demand attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:22 AM
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...what woman has more then 5 matches at the same time??? Do you know how much work that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:49 AM
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You can use all the justifications you want...I'm still gonna filter you out of my pool based on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:21 PM
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Because they're not asking for that type of advice. You can also give me GREAT driving tips, things I haven't considered yet, but I'm going to be upset if you insist on me listening to that, when I wanted directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:37 PM
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If I want to drive to...Disneyland. And I'm asking for advice to drive to Disneyland, then I'm not asking you to explain how to drive a car. I already know how to drive a car. I'm asking for directions. You going "don't be fat" is trying to keep telling me how to drive a car and "you just don't listen" is your frustration that I don't want to listen to you explaining how to drive a car. We ALL KNOW that "be skinny" is the magic key. If you can't give advice beyond that, then you suck at giving a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:04 PM
1

Or in other words, men can't give advice according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:48 PM
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Try telling a girl "sorry, almost no one will take you seriously as long as you're fat". You will likely get ignored and the girl in question will remain fat. ????? There's not a woman on the planet that doesn't know this. Some might be sticking their head in the ground and like...what did you expect the response to be then???? "Oh wow, now that YOU said it, I'll finally listen!" Dude... give some actual advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:36 PM
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If it was only 30minutes extra cleaning: why aren't you mad at the dad for not cleaning up after himself? The smaller the bother to her, the smaller the effort the dad had to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:30 PM
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Why aren't you mad at the dad for leaving the socks? Like...I know why, we all fucking do it, in all aspects of life. It's easier to blame the person for having boundaries, then the person that's pushing the boundaries. No idea where we all learned that, but we keep doing it. But obviously, the blame lies with the person pushing the boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:05 PM
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...who is telling you to take responsibility? I'm taking responsibility, by not having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:05 PM
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I believe a lot of Republican would still want abortions if the timing is inopportune for them. Yes, and yet they still want to take those rights away. A woman can still be a giant headache with differing values and expectations from you. Not to mention conflict on what values to pass onto children. But they can ignore that way easier then women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:15 AM
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Guys don't have the same issues as women do, when "dating down". If you are a republican man dating a democrat woman: no problem. If you are a democrat man dating a republican woman: small issues, concerning what you are supposed to do as a man. If you are a republican woman dating a democrat man: he might want you to have an abortion which you are morally opposed too in the case of an accident. If you are a democrat woman dating a republic man: he might want to take away your right to an aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:52 AM
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He's a guy. When he "dates down" in terms of politics, it is actually meaningless. He's not gonna "date down" and end up with someone that wants his rights taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:30 AM
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I mean it's a bit easier to raise a child and pay for it with a partner. That's not what the vast majority of divorced mothers are saying. The money, yes. But most of them are saying that being single makes it a HELL OF A LOT easier to raise the kid, because you don't have to do clean up after the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:26 AM
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Neither are true for casual fucks. They might be bloody true for pump and dump, but women are not going all out for a casual sex arrangement. That's one of the benefits of being casual: no strings, no obligations, if he has demands you don't want to do? NEXT!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:03 PM
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I'm not saying they are. I don't know what it's called in english so, it's like: I fit in my suit. My suit fits in my bag. Do I fit in my bag? No...I don't. Just because I'm saying that the bad guys are predominantly having this desire, does not mean that I'm saying that all the guys that have this desire are bad. The good guys just don't matter when I'm giving this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:54 AM
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Yes, they do. Like, yall don't notice it, because you aren't hyper focussed on it. You live in your world and you think you are a good person and thus other good people are like you. While, us women, needs to watch mens behavior and find "clues", because they don't straight up go "hey I'm a bad guy". Virginity chasing is one of the bigger signs of a bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:53 AM
-2

It's not standards from any man, it's not even all harmfull standards. But the virginity standard is a standard that is kept by the absolute worst of the worst of men, willing to do whatever the fuck to get what he wants and absolutely no care for women, people in general probably, but women especially. You know if there's a stereotypical comic book bad guy, he's gonna have a virginity standard. An the virgins are the most vulnerable amongst us, absolutely no experience, no knowledge from experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:33 AM
2

Women feel a lot of group solidarity. Haven't you noticed women getting emotional about things that really don't effect them at all? And you might even think "why do you care?". They're being upset like it's happening to them? Group.Solidarity. It has NOTHING to do with the guy and his standards and how repulsive or attractive he is. You might be saying the preferences, but they aren't thinking about you when they get upset. They're imagining the absolute worst scenario that can happen and get u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:27 AM
3

Yes...if we follow current statistics, it's 30% chance of a good sex life. It's actually a bit lower if you didn't have sex before, but let's just go with 30% because there's a lot of alternative reasons for that. The problem isn't that it's impossible, the problem is that those are fucking crappy odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:55 PM
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It doesn't directly cause it, but in a world where 70% of relationships are without regular orgasms for women, you need to be pro-active to have a reasonable chance to prevent it and "no sex before marriage" prevents that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:17 PM
4

...yes because not being able to have orgasms in your marriage is how women have a great time in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:07 PM
0

No, you said it was over reported. Official statistic: 2% Me: 6-12% Me: apparently claiming it's overreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:28 PM
1

Not really, I'm getting paid either way. But thnx for the typical PPD male response of running away
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:27 PM
0

YoU cAnT fIrE mE, I QUITTTTT!!!! how many if those are undereported And that's what I said, but dude..., there's no insurance fraude, without insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:18 PM
0

Why, because I pointed out that your fear is beyond unreasonable because you have no opportunity to provide for this crime of opportunity? It's like being afraid of robbers with high tech gear, pulling an oceans11, while you live in the getto.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:11 PM
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Second last paragraph of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:07 PM
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The girl can feel regret of what happened and call the cops on you. And that's...max 20% of all rape statistics, more likely to be 6-12% and a rape accusation only happens after 2% of all dates. So that's about-ish (since statistics don't work like that) a risk of 0,4% (if I use the 20% statistic) that you will get called into the police office and have a few stressy months followed by absolutely no consequences. Your reputation? The reputations of men convicted of rape barely gets a dent and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:04 PM
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will cause people to be more selective about who they sleep with. Like, men keep saying this...and I don't understand the logic. Are yall thinking that the only reason that I don't want to have a baby, is because it's with a bad dude? Can yall really not imagine, women not wanting kids, regardless of who the father is? Like??? I really can't compute how yall are thinking that women are going to be more selective now? Boyfriends = more consistent sex = more risk. And boyfriends are the ones that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:42 PM
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Which gender is more likely to take less risks and still be successful? You really think that this one is men???? Like... which gender can get sex more frequently? Women Which gender can get into relationships more easily? Women Which gender is more likely to divorce Women and more likely to benefit from it? Neither, divorce isn't something you benefit from, unless you married a top10% rich guy, in which case women benefit more...but dude we are talking about 0,01% of divorces. In the vast major…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:32 PM
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Men here claim that women overrate themselves and that's why there's so few women in the dating field, and the proof of women overrating themselves is how few women there are in the dating field. (Or: they overrate themselves, because they have high standards, and we can see that they have high standards because of how hard online dating is). 1) that's a circle. 2) women that underrate themselves are more likely to keep themselves out of the dating field, because they don't feel like they can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:28 PM
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I think it's more about denial, because accepting that women want sex less, means accepting that the "virgin wife" fantasy, is extremely unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:43 PM
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In my experience, it's mostly men that disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:56 PM
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...you massively changed the subject, while still appearing to be on the fucking subject. Your entire replies change meaning it fucking wasn't within the context of those subs. This entire conversation was bloody useless. What kind of fucking... yeezus. It's that I'm already wasting time by being on this sub, so not much is lost, but that was the most pointless thing of the month. I do not understand why you would...cuz it's not like you were trolling. Do you really not see the issue with changi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:24 AM
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Then why did you even reply to me???? That was the subject!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:03 AM
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Then why are you even participating in subs like r/truerateme Like...I get the argument, but if you follow that argument, your ass calling a girl 6 is meaningless too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:45 AM
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It is. She won the golden medal of hot women olympics. She's verified 9/10 minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:29 AM
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Hey, I'm not the one spreading my opinion about Adriana and who knows how many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:01 AM
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Why do you think your opinion matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:56 AM
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Then keep yourself out of conversations? Why do you think you are so important, that you absolutely must weigh in, when you cant participate fairly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:53 AM
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You should be able to perceive that a woman is a 9, without her being a 9 for you. Think of it like her having a gold medal in ice skating and you not giving a flying fuck about ice skating, because you like race cars and archery and HATE ice skating, you don't even think it should be a sport. She doesn't stop being an olympic winner, just because you don't like her sport. She has a medal regardless of your personal opinion about ice skating. And btw, you picked the fucking worst picture ever of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:11 AM
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You can call her a 9 and not want to date her because she doesn't meet your standards. But she's undeniably a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:38 AM
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I also read in another chain you think shaving your armpits is too much to do for a man (shit I trim mine as a dude just for perspiration control). ??? I don't think I've even mentioned armpit hair on reddit in 2 years or something? Like...I don't bother with that discussion. Again, we're talking about a dude with virtually unlimited options. Yeah, yall imagine that this dude has a magic dick that causes women to stop being women. I get it. We all know the magic Chad fantasy yall have. so far yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:32 AM
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Impossible standards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:29 AM
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She was a Victoria's secret model. That's the olympics of modeling. She was a Victoria's secret angel. That's a gold medal of modeling. There have only been 41 since 1997. She's not JUST a model. That's the top 41 out of a population of 7 billion people. I don't care what your personal preferences are. Those 41 models should get an automatic +9 score or social media has warped your perception of the prevelance of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:28 AM
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This is proof of men being the ones with impossible standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:12 AM
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He'll have enough girls who will work to compliment his lifestyle, because he's the type of guy that women highly desire. That works for casual and short-term relationships, not longterm. Women will eventually leave if they gotta keep doing that. meaning the other party has to bring more to the table/put in more work than they normally would. Which is why he can have a lot of casual sex, but that shit doesn't translate to a relationship if you are a male. You can only use that tactic as a female…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:53 AM
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I can't imagine that you have an easy time dating with those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:49 AM
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Dude, she's not just a regular model. She's one of the top paid ones. Y'all meter is completely broken if you think one of the top models of the world is a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:48 AM
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It's still absolute nonsense that the conclusion is a "7".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:04 AM
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Yeah another person already pointed out that I was talking about truerateme
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:47 PM
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Ohright, whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:38 PM
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Too lenient? There once was a troll there, that kept posting supermodels without make-up non-professional photo, and pretending that he was her and the SUPERmodels, received an 8 rating as max. A lot of people were rating them 6s. Romee Strijd for example got a final result of 7. And you are calling them lenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:34 PM
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I think our conversation is simply highlighting that men are less selective, especially about particular things and are generally happy with "good enough" relative to women's selectiveness. There's nothing wrong with it — it merely is. Except I'm NOT arguing that you'll never be able to find anyone else again. Yes, you'll find someone again. This is the third time of me saying that. It's not that you are gonna be alone forever. But when you are with another girl, that is bothered about the time …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:17 PM
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Wtf do their standards have to do with anything? Or their value??? You can have high standards or low standards, the holy grail remains that one person, you massively agree with and can live with, without fighting about stupid shit because you aren't well matched. Like...you can catch a lot more people by having value, but if you two aren't well matched, she's not gonna shut up about her disagreements about that FOR LIFE. Yall really expect Chad land, to be magic land.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:11 PM
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Again, I used "". Because even though "the one" doesn't exist, a version of it does. You can find a person who fits you extremely well, your strength compliments her weakness, your weakness gets complimented by her strength, agreement about all the important things, the relationship is going easy with minimal work. That exists and that's fucking rare. Like the people themselves aren't rare, but meeting them and them being single and willing to date and having the right age range and etc...that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:30 PM
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Hence me using "".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:35 AM
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It's not about less options. It's that the vast majority of us, aren't even gonna meet our "the one" once. Let alone twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:13 AM
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If you do it, you'll lose her. Shit like that always comes out and especially in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:24 PM
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What anxiety??? It's a choice. If you meet a girl and she's SUPER awesome, you get a choice. If you haven't met the girl yet, why anxiety? You might aswell meet her after you are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:14 PM
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You know how some guys have "a girl that got away"? Your attitude is what causes that. Sure, have fun. But if you meet that special girl and let her go because "sowing wild oats > that girl", there's a good chance that you don't get that chance ever again. You expect it to be easy to find someone like that, because it's easy to find casual sex and...you are wrong. It's so hard to find someone that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:04 PM
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and you are choosing to follow those criteria of yours more, or less, rigidly at any given time. No I don't. That's the criteria and it's either dating with or no dating. Like I get that men have more ability to switch around, but I don't. I have to compromise just to date at all. 🤷 .. then don't date?????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:44 PM
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I'm attracted to the same type of guy though: dark hair, glasses, tech skill...most of the time programmer. Then there's the demands: has a bio, shares 1 hobby with me, usually it's board games or regular games. If I need to step away from that, I might aswell quit dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:17 PM
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If you're using apps, you probably get multiple matches and messages. Yes does it not then follow that you had the potential to pick differently? Yes. But that wasn't the claim. But take a second to just look at the guys you're picking versus the ones you're not. Maybe, just maybe, you missed a piece of silver because you were too fixated on gold So you are just going with the usual "the lesser attractive guys wouldn't do that". Please come back if you have actual advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:06 PM
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Ok, I'll just go get my glass bowl to go and see. I forgot I had one until you said I could actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:00 AM
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What you are looking for is stuff that most men chose to leave out from dating profiles because they want to cast as wide of a net as possible Which is a very common complaint about women and dating apps. They become unusable for us if you do that. But, I already mentioned this further down to someone else...a guys preferences really don't matter as much as the women's preferences, if the goal is to stop matches from happening. To be very crude: if you don't give a guy what he wants, he'll adapt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:53 PM
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I think 1 too, but with categories. Like if you work with women, ya gotta work with categories. Some overlapping categories even maybe. Like the scrawny lovers versus the buff lovers and then you have the tattoo lovers...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:50 PM
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They can only do inference on data that exists. True, but they should be able to get increasingly better results, the longer you are on the app and that's currently not happening either. If you did not have a lot of mutually enthusiastic matches You don't need mutually enthusiastic matching. You just need both individuals preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:23 PM
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For example, your perceptions of what is physically attractive definitely differ from what your best friend thinks Yes and like I said, physical attraction is the difficult part. though my main concern is that each of these attributes are evaluated and matter differently to each person Which I don't see as much of a difficulty because it's based on when the individuals response changes from the supposed baseline. Like...based on physical attraction, you concluded that she keeps swiping on a mini…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:05 PM
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The challenge is creating an algorithm that can find that formula for every user. You just create a point-based system. Firstly, you get a physical score and then you get the tags you used and then you get extra tags based on your bio or lack of bio. Tags like LongBio or NoBio. Then the other person gets analyzed to see what physical score she prefers and what physical category she prefers and what her minimum and maximum preference in looks is. Then the tags add a positive or negative value, ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:16 PM
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but no one in Match specializes in that stuff. The skills to do it are not common except within big tech and university research labs. You just need 1 guy that has a master in math. That's it. It's not that difficult. I can write a formula that works fine enough to predict my own results. Like this shit doesn't need to be perfect. Thats even the ideal, that it's not perfect. You want some good matches to slip through or it's too obvious. The physical types are easy as well This is the difficult …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:37 PM
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They really don't need to compare my swipe history to others for that, that's just needed for physical types, but I explained that better in my other comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:00 PM
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They don't even need to put me in a category to know that I like gamers. Like, having to put me in a category is for when you don't have enough data. But we're on these apps, swiping away, we are giving them enough data for them to target us personally. It's very likely that these dating apps are better at predicting who we like then that we're capable of describing who we like. What you need is a gamer tag (which most dating apps have) or even the word gamer in a bio (which would make it TONS h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:51 PM
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Except they fucking do know. I tested this more then once. Not that hard...stop swiping for 3 weeks, look at what they're using to try and get me back. And honestly, it's not that difficult to notice that I like gamers, if you have my swipe behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:20 PM
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I actually get the opposite of that. At first I get massively attractive people, with empty bios, who like hiking and going out and travelling and partying. And if I leave, it tries to entice me back, with a dark haired guy, that's college educated, that likes gaming and board games. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that they know my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:17 PM
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I can still argue that they're doing this, while not using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:19 PM
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Yeah, this is the standard answer from men and I kinda wonder why you keep defending these apps that cause you nothing but misery? I have a tech-kink. Yes, a dude once used explaining the OSI-model as foreplay, so YEAH it is a tech kink, cuz you people typically try and tell me that I dont have a tech kink. I get 0 technology capable men before. 0. I don't swipe on men that have an empty profile. I just don't. 1 sentence counts as an empty profile. Almost all the profiles I receive before, are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:14 PM
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Well, if you emediately walk off, you aren't really "dangerous" to them. Like, you are unlikely to come back and swear your heart out. And you aren't wasting a lot of time. And your "beautiful" was very likely to be a compliment and not a come-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:55 PM
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It's not an approach, it's yelling while she's walking by.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:49 PM
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No, catcalling to me is when you yell something while she is walking by. But yeah, whether or not she is gonna respond positively is gonna be based on the same thing. She's not gonna like that approach if you are the 5th guy that did that, that day and the 3rd guy started calling her a slut afterwards. She's gonna be extremely uncomfortable in that situation. And if you do it to a girl that hasn't heard something like that in months, they're gonna be "awwwwwww".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:49 PM
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I don't think you are going far enough with your theory. These dating apps, get enough information, to know who you are more likely to like, based on how you are swiping and how long you engage in conversation with a match. If you are on that app for 2 weeks, they can easily put you in a certain category and know which category you are into. They can do that. And if they can do that, then they can massively increase their match rate by only showing you the people you are into, who are likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:46 PM
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No??? Labeling chores as "not a chore" isn't weaponized incompetence. He wasn't going "OH, I can't cook, you are so much better ar it, ...blablabla". That's weaponized incompetence. He was going "Because you like cooking and that's the chore you want to do...it's not fair to include it in the chorelist. It's a hobby. You are doing your hobby every day.". And me going to the store for ingredients, was just a byproduct of my hobby, like getting new pencils. And doing the dishes was cleaning up aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:07 PM
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The guy is supposedly amazing, because he takes her to out to dinner once. The guy is supposedly amazing, because he takes his kids to the park. The guy is supposedly amazing, because he doesn't go to the gym once to help his partner. The guy is supposedly amazing, because he did yardwork and he cleaned up his yardwork. The guy is supposedly amazing, because he brings her flowers and gifts every now and then. Each man was better than the last WHAT? You seriously listed the "buying a trinket ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:02 PM
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Yeah, but it looks like these women are being used to dismiss the lack of 50/50 that women are describing and European women also describe that as a problem while we don't have those women. Like...are those women even complaining about this? Or are they the one's feeling pride over maintaining the home themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:31 PM
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European women also complain about the division in chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:01 PM
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American media only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:52 PM
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Europe here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:44 PM
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My ex was actually MORE self sufficient then I was. I moved in from home, he was already living by himself and maintaining his chores by himself. ...yet, that still ended up with me doing the bulk of the chores. "OH, you love cooking, it doesn't count as a chore if you love cooking. That's a hobby!" ...Yet...everything else included in cooking that I don't love also gets counted as "not a chore, just a hobby". Like...dude fucking outsourced his chores to a cleaning company and I was doing someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:42 PM
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I know literally 0 moms like that. That includes my mom, my grandmother, all my aunts, the current generation that's being a mom, the mother of all my exes, all their relatives that were moms at that time, the moms of my friends when I was growing up, my current friends as mom, the moms I work with and I work in a semi-big company and anyone else I might have experienced as a mom, but to be fair... I would only get moments from the anyone else and that's not exactly enough information to judge h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:09 PM
2

I'm sorry...but are you getting your impression of mom's from shows?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:49 PM
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Which doesn't exactly help me, if I can't identify them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:00 AM
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There were a couple of guys who just called her beautiful or whatever Why is this not catcalling to you, if they do that to a woman that's just walking by? Like you do understand that for that woman, the "hey beautiful" isn't happening in a vacuum, for her, it's happening for the same reason as the aggressive catcalling and it might have happened 5 minutes after the aggressive catcalling. You want your "hey beautiful" to be judged individually, regardless of the agressive cataloging, but that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:56 AM
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Or I'm standing by my original statement that in order to get consistent sex as a man, "you gotta lie" and imply that NO ONE is gonna say that, because it's taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:44 PM
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I didn't edit shit. And the implication you saw, was just you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:34 PM
1

So, I didn't say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:32 PM
1

So you're going to accuse a group of endorsing something, Can you quote this part?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:28 PM
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Do you think women don't have "fuck buddies" or "friends with benefits"? They do, but as a guy, to get one is mostly luck-based. Being there and being attractive enough for her at the right time, before another guy swoops in. Needing luck, isn't a consistent stream of sex. None of TRP content I've read regarding handling the subject of exclusivity advocates for either lying about exclusivity, or lying about the possibility of exclusivity. Cuz it's taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:23 PM
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Because the vast majority of women aren't continuesly open to have casual sex, while the vast majority of men are. So either you are lucky and hit it off with a woman right at the moment that she's ok with casual sex, but luck doesn't give you a consistent stream. It's here and there some. Or you are so fucking hot that all the women that want casual sex look you up: not in my range for dating. Or you deceive women that aren't willing to have casual sex at that moment into having it anyway: lyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:30 AM
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Why are women so obsessed with, at a minimum, veiling their behaviour? Women typically see admitting fault and making active choices to stop committing that fault as the same thing, while men view those 2 as separate. This is why it's harder to get women to admit to shit, because admitting = I have to change this. So if they have this attitude, then they only admit shit when they're also committing to working on it. Men however admit shit more easily, because it's only admitting to that. And on …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:59 AM
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Either you are tricking or you are attempting to trick other women, because the vast majority of men won't have access to regular casual sex without some sort of lie. ...why wouldn't I have a problem with that? Like he can NOT do that to me and if someone else shows up and goes "he did that to me 10 years ago" and he goes "yeah I did that, but it's ok but...", thats still a fucking problem. It has nothing to do with the impact it has on my dating opportunity, it's immoral behavior regardless and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:54 AM
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Dude, if she has issues with that...yes??? It's only a question of when, the more attractive, the longer the relationship lasts, but it will fall apart over issues like that (although that specific one seems very petty).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:49 AM
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Society is all about freedom and autonomy until it comes to men, then it backpedals to forcing us to “do the right thing for the greater good.” Rape laws, domestic violence laws, stalking laws, pornography laws, ... All of them are hard to prosecute because we wouldn't want to minimize the freedom of a rare individual. For example stalking, there's absolutely no reason you should be legally allowed to follow 1 person everywhere. But that's not enough for a restraining order that would force that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:50 AM
1

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:39 PM
1

Or...living together with incompatible people is hard and you don't experience that because you put all of the hardship that comes from incompatibility on her, by ignoring it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:08 PM
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Do you believe believing those things about you is rational? If not, then you believe they are irrational. ...no? Behaving like 90% of the your peers isn't behaving irrationally, even if you are wrong. It's very rational to belief something that everyone else is believing. That just doesn't make it true. Weak and subhuman are more loosely defined terms so there's no neat argument but I think they are just exaggerations of what you actually believe about men I was talking about "what men belief a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:43 PM
1

How am I calling them that by saying that they belief those things about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:21 PM
1

I have no issues with sexism if it's true. Like, saying "women give birth" isn't sexist. "Women are physically less strong then men" also not sexist. But if you go "women are weak", weak on it's own is already subjective. Weak in what subject? And like...most men don't typically disagree with me saying that they are more likely to have "X" opinion, they just have an issue with me labeling X opinion as sexist. It's like "Yeah I belief in X but that's not sexist".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:41 PM
1

Well...you get that that's not trivial for the woman and you can't avoid arguments just by being ok with whatever on your side?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:10 AM
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I don't need to spend a lot of time on all the chores together when I'm single and I do need to spend a lot of time when I'm not. I also have 5K/year more, which is strange cuz everything was 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:42 AM
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That's what I'm describing. I'm still in "I can fix this" phase = "trying to curb it, by pretending it's fixable" as opposed to accepting = not dating anymore. Like, I'm never gonna accept my partner considering me weak, not rational, subhuman. If I accept that I can't change men to love me, then I accept singlehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:22 AM
1

What hatred, I'm still in denial phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:19 AM
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You can suck at housework and still have to do it. And men can keep going "it's not proven"/"I do more overtime"/"it's because you have higher standards". But if a woman gets out of a relationship and gains 2 hours/day in free time...she's not as likely to get back into a relationship and this is what women are saying that their reasoning is for not getting back into a relationship. And you going "not true"... doesn't convince those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:47 AM
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Study done where? Because America for example, gives incentive to lie, by refusing to hand out welfare otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:12 AM
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Because when you have experience, you end up with a lot more requirements, that are more important then n. And you learn that there actually aren't that many available women that meet your requirements. I'm not arguing that men stop caring. I'm saying that they stop prioritizing it with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:11 AM
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Ok, I'm talking about issues that are emediately problems. Even if your shit is right, that's not guaranteed, so you would be prioritizing "maybe she's gonna cheat because that's more likely because of her n" over "she's currently in my bedroom yelling at me over my socks". And IRL, people don't choose the science over the right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:15 AM
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It's a young people thing to give that much of a shit about n, because 1) meh, I don't need to be in a relationship and 2) lack of experience. I don't think that yall have enough relationship experience to know just how difficult it is to find someone that meets the minimum qualities to cohabitate with. N drops lower and lower, because of the things that are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:13 AM
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s not the same as spending months if not years of your life trying to change someone that's very unlikely to change Yeah, the problem is though...that as soon as I accept that completely, I can't date anymore. It's not just this guy. It's that all guys have a traits that's genuinely a dealbreaker. Like a fuckton of them are sexist, like only the top 10% of men aren't. And I'm not saying that as in "take the voting rights away of women" sexist, they're like "men are logical and women are emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:07 PM
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I said the only statistic that I knew of that topic at the top of my head and that was the +50% statistic. Also in hindsight, I don't think that divorced women get labeled as single moms as often in statistical research, because dad typically stays involved and I think they use single moms as 100% of the time the only parent involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:11 AM
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Divorced women with kids are probably much older then I'm guessing you are. I don't think they are in your dating range. They also typically happen far after the AF/BB. Like, the dad to the kids is typically the BB. And again, rich area, people typically don't get married until very late 20s-early 30s and typically don't start having kids until a bit after that, 32-36 and they typically don't divorce until the children are at least 6y old, so we're talking about 40y old single moms here. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:01 AM
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I'm from a rich area. I know zero teen pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:51 AM
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Weird how I don't know a single case of that. Those are the statistics though. Teen pregnancy, is for the most part NOT created by age-mates. That's a minority of teen pregnancy. Over 18y old fathers account for more then 50% and the rest of the data is just as bad....but I don't remember it... And the older the male partner in a relationship with a teen girl, the more likely it is, that the girl is gonna get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:30 AM
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Yes betas are creating single moms. I already stated why earlier. Chad's don't need to impregnate women in order to keep them. Most single moms are teen moms. Most teen moms, got knocked up by an older dude and the bigger the age difference, the more likely she is to get knocked up by this dude. Betas are going after younger girls and knock them up in an attempt to keep them. Chad's...don't want to knock ANYONE up. They don't need to knock people up to keep them. They wanna live life and be free…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:23 AM
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Yeah probably. But not the low n count girls. The low n count girls, are more likely to be part of the leftover girls. Because their value comes from something, that isn't really valued, except by guys like you. They are not getting picked up by Chad's because Chad will rather fuck every day of his marriage and he has experience enough to know that these types of girls, won't give that to him. And like said earlier...the single moms, also caused by guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:14 AM
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That the alphas are actually marrying the girls that you consider beneath you because of their n.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:07 AM
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Again, that's jealousy talking. The actual Chad's don't feel jealousy like that because they were those guys. Also she considers genetically better than him. This is that extra bullshit AF/BB lore I was talking about. Just because you proof that the hot guys gets casual sex, doesn't mean you proved thus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:00 AM
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Ok. Still. Those people are not gonna value n over peace in the household, because they are not jealous like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:55 AM
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It's not easy for anyone that's ill matched. Chad or otherwise. And n-count...really barely effects how well matched you two are. Having a compatible mentality on chores will do A LOT more then n-count, for example. If you don't have that...it's just daily fighting or resentment build up. Simular sexual desires is also a very important one. Same issue, buildup of frustration and resentment. You are just focused on n-count, because you are jealous of women's ability to have casual sex. You envy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:51 AM
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Btw, if you are talking about single moms, we have studies about these men and they're typically not guys we would call Alpha's. By a very large margin, these are men that go after younger inexperienced girls and knock them up. Knocking them up in this scenario is probably a control tactic. They don't need these tactics if they were hot. Single moms, especially when young, are most likely the result of betas using pregnancy to try and lock a woman down...or even knock down her value. Research sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:41 AM
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Which is also fucking bullshit, unless you never wanted to marry her and only married her because that's the only way to keep a girl, in which case...that's your issue. Not the "alpha's", who probably by now, have married a simular girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:33 AM
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Again, since I've been saying since the beginning: it's not that "the hot guys gets the casual sex" isn't true, it's that y'all have added this entire other lore to it. If yall would just stick to the "hot guys get casual sex", you wouldn't nearly have as many people disagreeing with it. But when you go "so they can never love their husband", then you are dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:26 AM
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Why do so many guys (beta bux) end up marrying single moms? I'm guessing that you live in a poor area then, because that's more of a social demographic thing. Poorer teenage girls, end up pregnant more frequently then their richer counterparts. They're also more likely to get older boyfriends, which also increases their odds of getting pregnant. And once you are older as a male in that poor area, those are your options. Not because beta buxx, but because your "matches", didn't manage to grow up …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:16 AM
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Again, you haven't even provided any arguments for this. You just go "hot guy get casual sex more easily" = "the hardworking guys get screwed over by their wives" as if that connection is obvious. It's bloody not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:55 AM
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The problem with AF/BB is the extra lore you add onto it. Yes, the hot guy can get casual sex more easily. Yes. But then you go and add shit to it and act like AF/BB is proven if you can proof that the hot guy has access to casual sex. Get genes from the alpha, then find a beta to get resources and commitment from. Like fucking this. This.Is.Bullshit. Women aren't committing parental fraude all over the place. No. And none of your claims suggest they do, but suddenly the hot guy having casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:57 PM
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1 problem... "had more then 3 casual sex"? Manipulation typically happens with the women that DON'T want casual sex? That's the entire point of the manipulation... to get casual sex from a relationship orientated women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:40 PM
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You have to be a +8/10 in some attractive way In some attractive way, as in...not just looks based.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:46 PM
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If that's the only thing you got? Yeah, you need to be all the way there. Like...the ability to fuck a 7/10 doesn't turn a "I don't want casual sex" into "ooooh, imma try this". It doesn't make them ugly... I'm not saying that. They're still hot. It's just not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:24 PM
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You don't understand what I'm saying and that's fine, let's stop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:06 AM
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Again, not advice. Please take a break and a breath and read everything again because I'm not gonna repeat. If you still don't get it, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:39 PM
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I'm not giving advice here. THAT wasn't advice. I'm saying that a 10:1 swiping ratio isn't proof of women being very critical just swiping on Chad's and I'm suggesting that you test it by having some standards yourself to see at what ratio you end up. That was NOT advice. That was a suggested experiment for the ratio result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:25 PM
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Casual sex. They're not looking for it. They might be open to have casual sex, but they aren't looking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:18 PM
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I'm not arguing that you should do that experiment to get better results. I'm arguing that if you do that experiment, you will end up with a ratio like women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:17 PM
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Then why are you complaining about 10:1 if even the most basic of standards will cause you to swipe no on 90%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:51 PM
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So you know that women can get to 10:1...without only swiping on Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm saying that by having some actual standards + minimal looks standards, your ratio will be close to a woman's ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:40 PM
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Dude.. it's to test the ratio. You won't be doing it seriously. I'm arguing that you can have a 10:1 ratio, without being strict on looks. And I know that you won't belief, so I'm suggesting that you test it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:30 PM
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Yeah probably. There's not enough women on the app to swipe away 90% of them. You might even end up with having your profile NOT be seen by the remaining 10%. Anyhow. I still suggest you try it once. Put your looks bar at the ground, make up some other boundaries like "needs to have a profile that shows that she's looking for something serious", probably some other shit too... Age? Swipe away. And then fucking look at what ratio you end up having.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:19 PM
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If I'd only swipe "no" on men that didn't have a serious bio, I'd already have a 10:1 ratio. Stop judging us for actually having standards and keeping to them. YOU CAN DO IT TOO! I dare you. Swipe only on women that have a decent bio. And your swipe ratio will look like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:12 PM
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You have to be a +8/10 in some attractive way AND put yourself out there to qualify for casual flings. Like, the vast majority of women aren't looking for a fling and you will either need to attract the ones that are looking for a fling and snatch them up before someone else does (and about 80% of the guys are willing) or you need to convince then to have a casual fling. Both of those, require that you are better then the rest at something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:08 PM
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Even if that expectation was real, that would still be like comparing "I change the oil in the car, so you should cook". Like how many fucking times could you possibly need to do that, even if it was true? You are suggesting that the women should be undergoing painful unpleasant sex with you (hey, why do we even worry about rapists if this is what our boyfriends do?) in exchange for something that's just not gonna happen and you will probably run scared as fuck when it does happen. Let me guess.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:47 AM
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Edit 2: Since you bring up pain and blood, do you think it’s right for women to expect their men to put their lives on the line to defend them in a dangerous situation? Or if I protected my last ex or hook up from a violent situation do you think it’s right for my girlfriend or future wife to expect me to do the same thing? Because women as a whole expect men to protect them from physical harm from other men and women. Ok you are a troll. Never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:37 AM
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Because that's was the situation I sketched? So a girl has anal once You replied to me...didn't you read what I wrote before replying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:42 AM
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It looks bad that she tried something once and hated it and never did it again? I'm sorry, but a lot of you keep acting like women are supernatural beings, that know what they like before they do it, so if they did it once...they can't dislike it!!!! Offcourse! Because then they wouldn't have done it once!!! Like yall issues with women really all seem to boil down to "not thinking of them as people".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:55 AM
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First off, TikTok is a perfect way to measure the real world. The algorithm makes sure that you keep seeing the same content you approve off, in the sense that if you engage with this content, it will show you more and more and more of that specific content. For example, transsexuals are 0,4% of society, yet my feed is FILLED to the rim with cosplaying male-to-fem VERY PRETTY transsexuals. If I were to use tiktok to measure the real world, I'd think that straight people were a minority. So absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:02 AM
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It's not infantilizing to call out immoral behavior. Stop protecting bad behavior or if you aren't gonna do that, stop getting offended when women start to distrust all men. I mean they're more busy with protecting total freedom then being moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:44 AM
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Well...do that then instead of pressuring people? Go after virgins and inexperienced instead of making this weird ass rule that's cruel? If he manages to find one that agrees, that doesn't make it ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:08 PM
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What technicality? He elaborated. Yeah he's that extreme. out of your way to make a specific scenario for the sole purpose to delegitimize his point I just applied it to myself. Why is that too specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:06 PM
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These one's? Yeah. Like they can legit hate and then they have to do it again? If you do it once and you hate it and you don't even let the original guy that did it, do it a second time...then that should be proof enough of disliking the act?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:05 PM
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Seems cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:19 PM
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I've had multiple people replying to me and DMing me about my RIDICULOUS example, because offcourse you wouldn't. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:52 PM
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I just made it personal. I have plenty of things I tried once or 3-5 times to see that I like it. Like the anal for example, that was once and OH BOY never again and yeah ex begged. ...that's how you find out if you like something... How is it my fault that his definition is so extreme, that it's basically excluding everyone except the virgins and the women that never tried more then missionary? Edit: oh and btw, he said yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:49 PM
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I just made it personal bro and I'd like an answer. Edit to add: he said yes...I thought I was so extreme? Then why did he say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:45 PM
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So a girl has anal once with her first boyfriend with whom she was with for 13 years, at the very beginning, he didn't get anal again after that and now she has a too big n for you because she won't give you anal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:34 PM
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I never lost weight until I stopped being on birth control and I didn't do anything different then to lose the weight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:39 AM
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You understand that that's just the tip of what dating apps CAN do. Like, they can see what you like based on what you swipe and they can see this of the other person and they can keep that person away from you forever. They are a company and unless you legally make companies act in an ethical way, they fucking don't if it makes them less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:15 AM
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Here's another idea: you create laws that force dating apps to at least be a certain % successful, or there will be consequences like having to warn its users base of their lack of succes. B Like, I'm guessing that ALL these apps would work TONS better, if there wasn't more money to have in failure and we need to give these companies a motive to actually work. Because currently? They don't really have one. Even bad press for having almost no success: their userbase will just blame women for bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:18 PM
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You see more women with problems owning up to shit, because in the class "assholes in a relationship ", women and men act differently even though they are of the same class of asshole. Women assholes in a relationship, do things you say. They deflect or cry as a way to avoid responsibility. Male assholes in a relationship don't cry or deflect, but this doesn't mean that they own up responsibility. They admit their faults and then do it again and apologize and do it again and etc. While if you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:27 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that they're gonna post on deadbedrooms if they were happy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:28 AM
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It can be. Definitely not the norm though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:26 AM
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The emotional connection is most important for the relationship, the physical connection is most important for the sex. You can't have a lasting relationship without emotional connection, like...even an agreement to not give a shit about each other requires an emotional connection because not everyone is gonna agree to that and even less people can actually handle that after agreement. You can have a lasting relationship without physical connection, plenty of relationships that have no sex at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:18 AM
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I acknowledge that I'm powerless to change others. But when my problem is chameleons, the solution isn't to fix myself since that solves nothing. Or can you explain to me, how fixing myself, stops the chameleon problem? Like life ain't fair, there isn't always a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:22 AM
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Yes. Yes I fucking do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:16 AM
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Because they don't wanna become green? I mean...my suicide would be the fault of me not wanting to become relationship material, so...their suicide should also be the fault of refusing to be green, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:48 PM
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Dude...there's always suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:46 PM
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Dude, I will rather never date again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:38 PM
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How fucking zen. Yeah, you are a orange, we don't mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:36 PM
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Guys fake all sorts of stupid stuff, but come on. Women are just as bad as men are in this area. I would argue that women can and will be as bad as men if they really like the guy, but it won't be as prevelant a problem for men as it is for women and the prevelance is what's making this a major problem to deal with. The only surefire solution I've ever found, was changing oneself. Because if you change, others have to adapt to you. Them adapting...is the issue? So if I follow your advice, my pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:35 PM
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I described them painting themselves green FOR ME.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:52 PM
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No. Green are my personal preferences. Go read everything again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:46 PM
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Ok, I have 3 looks-based high preferences in my head? They're even on my dating profile. What are they? I'm only gonna answer with yes or no, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:34 PM
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Bro, I never even said what green was??? How can you make a judgement based on...the word green?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:25 PM
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Except we're not living in a world where the only thing that matters is green. I like green. Me. Just me. My friend likes purple, so she dated the green guy that pretended to be purple and now I can't saté him. My other friend likes BRIGHT red. We're all just fucking struggling because yall are colorshifting. Hm I am not even American let alone republican so I have no idea what are you on about. Then there's no issue. That or the equivalent of that, is the only thing that's a pretty universal ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:21 PM
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That's the same as saying "just date anybody, it doesn't matter who they are", because no matter what green represents, guys will fake being like that. And hey, if you are a republican, how about you stop being blue instead of blaming women for HATING blue people. You can fake being green all you want, the moment you turn blue, I'm gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:08 PM
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First off, overweight frequently gets used badly. Overweight gets used as "too fat, needs to lose weight for health reasons". And that's not true. Overweight is "doctor can't blindly trust that the weight isn't gonna cause issues for the person, this needs to be verified" or otherwise phrased as "it can be too fat. But it also can be healthy". Just like underweight is. If you are underweight, it doesn't automatically mean that you are harming your body, you can also be naturally very lean, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:34 PM
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They all ultimately want to meet someone and have a family, No. and the number of men throwing themselves at them daily are so off putting to them that really it has to happen organically Yes. And btw, you don't get how fucking hard it is to find a guys that's...let's say green, in a world where men paint themselves in whatever color they think the girl they're into, likes. If I just date green guys, I find out they're blue but painted green, red but painted green, yellow but painted green. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:10 PM
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I'm not agreeing with your post though. There is an obesity crises. Morbid obesity is so much of an outlier that BMI would only be wrong in extreme bodybuilding cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:26 PM
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I can have a 10kg fat difference and be the same BMI, I know because I did that once. 0 exercise + bad food = 72kg - size 42. 5 days a week exercise + good food = 72 kg - size 38. Are you really saying that those 2 versions of myself have the same health risks? Doctors wouldn't be able to throw out the BMI system even if they think its bad, because that has been used in almost every single study concerning health risks. That's the primary reason we started with BMI, scientific research. A mathem…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:48 PM
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No. I didn't save it. You can probably Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:46 AM
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Also not a primary way of finding a relationship online, that comes in 5th after OLD on 4th. Like, it's a dating app and they come in on 4th. That's not "wow, it works". The nr.1 way people meet online is in chatrooms or simular. For example, this sub, the PPD sub, has a discord. I know 4 couples that met on that discord. 1 of them have gotten married a bit more then 6 months ago. Those are POLAR OPPOSITES. You have FDS and feminist arguing with MRAs and Red pillers in that chat. 4!!!! 4 couples…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:16 AM
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the majority of couples these days meet online. Yes. BUT NOT ON OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:00 AM
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Offcourse you say that, as a guy. Guys are known for not fearing rape. Guys are known for living their lives as if rape doesn't exist. We are punishing the majority of innocent women with this system. And men think it's all fine because at best...they don't get the terror. At worst, you want to take advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:48 PM
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If you get beat up and you point your finger at someone and go "that guy beat me up", there wouldn't be as much "yeah but what if it's actually someone else". Your mindset is WHY due process is more important than ever. Your mindset is the reason why we ignore the courts and find ways to protect ourselves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:23 PM
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EXTREME injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:05 PM
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But you are talking about it, like it would solve the supply issues. "OH, if we make the group of male potential matches smaller, then they HAVE TO follow our demands!!!!". We already have insufficient male matches for our demands and guess what happens...every year we get stricter regardless of how few men are able to meet the requirements. Ask older men. +30y old women are significantly more demanding even though they have less men to choose from. And when those demands don't get met, they sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:48 PM
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Like...let's say that you are right and he has no self respect. I don't agree, I think its only no self respect if its 1-direction simping, but thought experiment, let's say you are right. Why would that be bad for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:34 PM
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No simping, no relationship. This means, that if you don't simp, I don't want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:29 PM
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???? You were just arguing thar men should stop simping????
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:22 PM
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Confusing response, considering what you posted. Did you get that I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:08 PM
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No simping? No relationship. I don't care if you are a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:58 PM
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There's not enough good quality attractive guys to fail to get one to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:18 PM
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Don't you fucking realize how extreme that is? I sketch you a situation, in which you need to have extraordinary circumstances in order for it to not be rape, extraordinary circumstances that are easily proven, and extraordinary as in...I don't think that we've ever had it happen and it not be rape and you still go: that's not proof enough. Rape court currently is set up, to get rapists off. And we're sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:59 PM
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I still think the word is appropriate. Then why are you arguing that I just don't like the words, you apparently think the words are important. And to use your whipped cream metaphor: I understand how I would be settling in your example. That's just not what's going on. Hotter guys for casual sex are a free extra. I wouldn't pay to have it...but I don't need to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:12 PM
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Yes, because words have meaning. Settling, means something. It has negative connotation that doesn't apply here. And if it's just words for you, then you shouldn't have an issue picking a more appropriate word.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:49 PM
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It's higher for casual sex, because I fucking can. It's like...let's say I always buy chocolate milk without whipped cream because I'm not paying 20cent for whipped cream. A really low amount of money, I don't care enough about whipped cream to get. Now if it's free...ima get it. You are arguing that whipped cream is important to me because I get it when it's free and I'm settling for chocolate milk without when it's not free. NO It's just not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:43 PM
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I don't want to start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:31 PM
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Looks are important. Just not as important as all the other qualities. And that’s fine. They're THE MOST important when it comes to reaching the minimum or not and after the minimum got reached, it's just not that important. I'm not settling because I'm not dating anyone ever that doesn't meet my minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:30 PM
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Because settling implies that I'm giving up something important and it's just not that important. You go for the hottest guy in casual sex, because you can. Not because it's important. 10s aren't available? Oh I'll pick a 9. 9s not available either? K an 8. No 8s? 7 will do. And etc. It's not important. It's just the same as wanting to buy a product and you notice that due to a promotion the more expensive product is now the same price. You'll grab the more expensive product, because we're wired…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:16 PM
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It's not settling. For casual sex, the other qualities (well most of them) aren't relevant. "OH, you would do 50/50 everything if we lived together?", that doesn't bloody matter. It doesn't matter. In a relationship that does matter. You can be a 10/10 and I'm not dating you if that means paying 50/50, yet doing 100/0 of the household. Not happening. Refusing to settle on what's important in order to get hotter guys, isn't settling on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:57 PM
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settle No, it's not fucking settle. The bar is higher for relationships and a lot of attractive men don't meet the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:19 PM
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with no other compelling evidence I made up an example with compelling evidence. It was my example, I could put whatever in it and I chose a situation that's always gonna be rape because I could. And you are debating about whether or not it's rape. ..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:46 AM
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I think it’s because overall men don’t care as much about what individuals think of them. You do care. You don't care that some or even a majority thinks bad of you, as long as you have a supportive few, but you need a supportive few.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:44 AM
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Even men that value women home makers aren't asking for society to value those women. They think they should have enough by being valued by them. And they're not happy that they need to pay up for that in the case of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:41 AM
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Society now considers women as better, because they now do the jobs you suggest aren't needed to be valuable. Where does society currently values women for the jobs you suggest they do? Being the home makers? The baby makers? Where? Those jobs are not treated as valuable. If you want to be valuable, you need to go out and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:16 AM
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You're not making a strong case here at all. Lots of things in a woman's body can cause her to have excruciating pain. And further to that, was there a pre-existing condition or injury? ...dude, why are you trying to find excuses for why it's valid when even if those excuses don't exist, we still require the victim to proof that she didn't want it? I really named the worst thing possible to happen during a rape, because its my example and why the fuck wouldn't I use the worst thing possible to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:43 AM
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Society did. In the past too. Only a husband might have valued their wife's contribution, but society never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:29 AM
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Again, you think presumption of innocence is flawed. It's not It is if the presumption is that I wanted to have sex. My innocence isn't being assumed. If it were anything else, that's not presumed. And it makes it almost impossible for me to proof that I didn't want something to happen to me, regardless of what injury I might have. But to suggest severity of injury is by itself proof of rape shows that you're line of reasoning is flawed. Like I used an unimaginable pain as an example and you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:23 AM
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Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:16 AM
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It's the only thing that will be considered valuable. Am I getting a pension as reward for all the other valuable ways I can contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:16 AM
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to the current legal systems being inadequate to "increase the number of rape convictions." They are. 2% conviction rate. The current system protects rapists by presuming innocence in even the most ridiculous of circumstances. If you get your cervix ruined during sex, an unimaginable painful act that can cause permanent disability and loss of legs, that's not enough to presume that the act was rape. If I punch you in the face, there is no question about whether or not that was consensual. If a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:13 AM
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So you are basing your opinion of feminism on what? Verified members of such organisations saying those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:48 PM
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Find me an actual feminist organisation that has that as a goal on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:38 PM
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Mean was 1 of 3 options I've given and there are even more motivations then just those 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:24 PM
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Ever heard of "women that want to be mean, know where to cut"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:36 PM
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Ok, then the other 2 reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:28 PM
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Because of the 2 other reasons? Or her betting that you were gonna find out. How did the guy find you anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:16 PM
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It's not more probable cuz women STFU about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:05 PM
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Again, you are just labeling whatever bad as feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:04 PM
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Why would she? All sorts of reasons. Trying to tear you down, trying to make the other guy feel special, trying to minimize what she was doing because "actually...it was justified" are a few examples. It wasn't saying it to me So?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:43 PM
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Why do you think she would not???? Like, on the one hand you guys are complaining that women are worse then what society tells you, on the other hand you are believing what this cheating bitch is saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:36 PM
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And? Why would that mean she wasn't lying? Like, I'm not denying that she cheated. I'm denying the reason she gave
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:29 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:25 PM
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That's not boasting, that's attempting to hurt you, whether with truth or lies and you have no way to know whether it's truth or lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:23 PM
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She's a bitch. If she wasn't a bitch, she wouldn't have told you that even if it's true. She would have shut her mouth or made up a lie. And the thing about bitches, they'll lie if they can hurt you with lies. This person wanted to hurt you. You have no idea if that shit was the truth, all you know that she's a bitch and good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:23 PM
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That's cancel culture...not feminism. Unless you are talking about going after rapists who were projected by power, yeah that's feminism, but that's not "being stupid". Yall just go: is it bad? =>feminism, else => not feminism. And then you are all "HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THAT FEMINISM IS EVIL????", while you are defining behavior as feminism based on the behavior being evil. It's not possible for feminism to not be evil to you, because then it's not labeled as feminism and all behavior that leans …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:10 PM
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Nah. I'm not afraid of dating strangers. Like, they would still need to date me before getting anywhere near a situation where raping/murdering me is convenient. If they were ok with snatching me off the streets, they wouldn't try to date me to rape me. They would just snatch me of the streets. And they're not getting invited in any time soon, so they would have to snatch me off the streets after a date if they wanted to rape me. I ain't worried about that. I just have 0 interest in people I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:14 PM
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ridiculously strict criteria, Not a stranger: ridiculously strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:22 PM
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He wants kids and she doesn't. He wants casual and she doesn't. She wants city life and he wants to go back to monkey. He's judging her outfit before dating already. He's too outgoing. He's dumb as a brick. (These are a few of my examples).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:11 AM
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I don't have an abundance of men circling around me and If you’re a stranger you’re a stranger This is still at play. My ass has been single for 2 years, but if you a 10/10 stranger, that 1 in a million chance, the answer is still NO. A stranger is NEVER on the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:09 AM
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Studies say women face a lack of diagnosis, in a lot of issues where they can be helped a lot by receiving a diagnosis. For example: autisme, adhd, add, ... And studies suggest but not proof, that the higher rates of depression could be linked to failing to diagnose them with their other issue, like for example autisme and them struggling in life because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:45 PM
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If you are young and you have access to therapy, you really got fucking problems. Like, you managed to get your parents to pay for that? And drive you every week? And butt out of it? Them not going "we are your therapist"? Or dismissing it as teenage angst? You...must have actual problems. If you are older and go to therapy, a lot of time it's because you don't have problems, but just treat like a dentist/doctor trip. Just doing my maintenance to stay healthy. That being said, when I was in high…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:42 PM
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Life just fucking sucks bro. Did you notice what happened with Roe v Wade. I'm wondering why the 2/3rd AREN'T using anti depressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:34 PM
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the line about niceness being insufficient is very much real and common though Yes, but you don't get called a "nice guy" for that, you get called a "nice guy" for being an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:28 PM
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So they don't understand flirting because they just perceive everything as flirting and have no way to distinguish between real flirting and friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:27 PM
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If you are too fat you can literally just go to the gym and improve your diet. I'm 99% sure I eat better then you and I go to the gym. I'm just short, work 50hours/week in shifts at a sedentary job and need to do my own chores because I'm single. Could I do better? Yeah and I've done better, but I can't under these circumstances. I'm already medicated to keep going. It is such a low bar that it is outrageous when women complain about being called too fat. Just get off your lazy fat ass and lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:46 AM
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The difference is that female entitlement is understood and embraced in the mainstream while male entitlement is rightfully called out for being misogynistic, loser behavior, and derivative of incels. Really? Because I used sex as an example. Do you really think that leaving a sexless marriage gets you called out for being misogynistic, loser behavior? Really? Career minded "independent" women are literally championed as success stories for women in our society and I see nothing wrong with that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:11 AM
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will often want Mr. Right as opposed to having to settle. Well...yeah? Like I'm not male... consistent sex isn't a price for me, it's a burden. And I fucking like sex. But when I'm single, I can have sex whenever I want or don't want and when I'm in a relationship, I need to make sure that I'm performing my duty when it comes to sex. We don't get the rewards that men get, mr.Right is our reward, the tingles is our reward. Offcourse, I'm not volunteering for an extra duty without reward. Image th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:57 PM
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Men are naturally polygamous in the same way that people are naturally gluttonous. As in "not really, but a lot of people would take that path if there were less consequences.". Hey, how many people would eat nothing but pasta if this came with 0 health consequences and no weight gain? Like...it's just a fun potential option, especially when you are young and all the benefits of monogamy sound like a threat. "So here's your the one. For the rest of your life. You can never have another and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:19 AM
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And I'm saying that you are a few days too late to significantly change anything. The dating game just got turned a level harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:56 PM
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The time to get out of a slump is lost. Ya think those women that didn't want to date you before, will do so under these circumstances???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:01 PM
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That's actually a different doctor called a Obstetrician... That's a gynecologist... just instead of laparoscopy specialty... First yes you still need procedure rooms and nurses for a vasectomy. So weird, they didn't have a surgery room and nurses when my ex had a vasectomy and I was standing next to him. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:39 PM
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Minimally invasive means minimally so laparoscopy... Yeah, a laparoscopy and a vasectomy aren't the same level of invasive. Moreover doctors are free to charge how ever much that they want, so it's completely possible... You would need a gynecologist that specialized and that then would charge less. Like yeah it's possible... But you get that these are the baby doctors? The people who most likely chose their specialization because they wanted to deliver babies? It's already massively hard, to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:15 PM
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That's just no possible. Like, the most minimally invasive way to get a tubal requires a laparoscopy, which already is more invasive then a vasectomy, but for arguments sake...let's say that it isn't. You are still required to get a gynecologist that specialized in laparoscopy to have that surgery and specialty doctors are fucking expensive. So even in the imaginary scenario where a tubal by laparoscopy is as minimally invasive as a vasectomy, that surgery would be MORE expensive then a regular …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:15 AM
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...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:32 AM
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Would you date a balding woman or is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:05 PM
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That doesn't undo what they said though. The minimum got raised, if there's not enough men available to fuck them with the raised minimum, then they don't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:55 PM
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Because all of this happens a lot earlier in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:37 AM
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Those women, only learn through experience. Hopeless romantics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:28 AM
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Did you forget the part where we weren't talking about all women, but a small subset of them? Yeah yeah I said plenty before. I still stand by that. Plenty and a small subset isn't mutually exclusive when we're talking about such a large group as "all women on planet earth".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:16 AM
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Because the men leave them, or they cheat, or they turn the relationship very unpleasant as soon as they move in together or they take advantage of the willingness to help...like her having to support him following his dreams but it never ends, or... Like...regular relationship breaking up shit. Not more special then when other relationships break up. But it's different for these women that have that mentality. It hurts a lot more for them then for the others. And they break a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:58 PM
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We would care if you didn't make that care fucking hurt. There's plenty of girls that do that and the vast majority of them get burned by it. If you encounter a "bitter leftover wasted woman", like y'all call her, 9 times out of 10, she's one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:39 PM
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Your example shows how different women’s and men’s sex lives are. I'm not one of the people who denies that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:42 PM
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A lot? It's a case of a loud minority and leftover bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:08 PM
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Sure, the nerdy math boy might turn out to be a bust Higher then you guys expect. Like really. And in the meantime, you don't even get regular relationship fun and the hot stoner musician might get his shit together later in life. Unlikely. But you aren't betting on the hot stoner musician. You are just having fun. Experiencing your youth. Priceless, you can't buy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:42 PM
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You get that having an ONS is less risky...right? What's relationship sex? Twice a week minimum or the guy is complaining? More is prefered? What is ONS? Once a week maximum? And then you are already having a lot of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:16 PM
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Which is a strategy that you can't play before you are 23-25 or something. Like...yall expect us to be fortune tellers at almost every fucking turn. You have no idea who is gonna be a hardworking guy and who is gonna be a burnout until college ends or internships/blue collar training ends. You can make educated guesses...but that's fucking it. And you are risking A LOT on playing with those educated guesses and your payout is 0 if you get it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:14 PM
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That's what you seem to struggle to comprehend. Yeah...because it's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:27 PM
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Because it's not fucking true. Like the child support part is...but yall are confussing "they don't bother going after you" with...they can't. In the early beginnings of child support, they didn't bother going after child support either. That all changed when the government decided to be strict with government aid. Then they went after child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:06 PM
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That's the fucking price unless you do surrogacy tourisme.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:31 AM
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There's also not enough info to think she is entitled because the dishes could equally mean part of the dishes that are getting used when they eat together. Which makes a whole lot of sense within those 3 examples. you'd probably make up BS excuses too on issues that weren't really that big of a deal. But I'd guess you are just gonna make a BS excuse as to why that's impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:57 AM
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...so paying isn't an infringement on bodily autonomy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:46 AM
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Yeah and the 3 examples are chores and helping her out when she's sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:45 AM
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If you are american: leaving costs 35K.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:27 AM
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So the cooking one is ambiguous but the dishes aren't? Pure speculation on my part but what little I have to go off of in this post implies OP's ex probably wore the pants in the relationship The little info we have from the OP implies that OP did nothing and expected to be served and OP's girlfriend used "acts of service" to make him do his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:27 AM
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If a guy wants the kid but the woman doesn't, then sure. And sorry but this won't amount to 100k. No actually, the regular costs are 200K. I said you get 50% of the costs. And it doesn't end there, you also get 50% of doctors visits and the actual cost of giving birth which nowadays is 40K. Women always conveniently forget that everything that is paid by the collectivity, government or insurance, is in effect paid by men because women draw more from taxes and contributions than they contribute. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:54 AM
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Great. Except when it comes to issues that effect women's rights negatively in an unfair way. Like child support. I will stand in your way unless you find an equal way to do it, which means looking at the entire picture. Which you currently aren't doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:46 AM
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And if you start up a males right organization that isn't just hating women, I'll be a part of that too and you can go "women have consistently...". But you need to start something. Is it too much to expect help where men lag behind? That's already happening. Like, a fuckton of women are taking up your issues. You want more then that. what right do feminist have to as men to hold other men accountable? what right do feminists have to ask men for support in abortion rights? Didn't I say I would s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:39 AM
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Oh so equality isn't what feminism is about. We know. It's for equality in the same way that animal rights organisation's are about humanity. They just focus on extending humanity to animals. Because if equality was truly what it was about then feminists would bitch about ALL situations where there's no equality No. They're not even bitching about all the situations where there isn't enough equality for women. You can't do everything. You need to choose and when that's done, you can focus on ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:23 AM
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So... location dependent? And dodging your responsibility isn't the same as it being legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:08 AM
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Any person, at any given time, can choose to go live off grid and never pay another dime to the government. No. Very location dependent. I already told you I need to pay 800euro per year to my government. My ability to dodge that payment doesn't make it legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:05 AM
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Yes it does change everything. Men are denied bodily autonomy by being forced to work under threat of imprisonment. This happens almost everywhere just for food and shelter and then it's not a bodily autonomy issue. I personally need to pay a minimum of 800euro to live where I am. That's my minimum amount of taxes. I also get thrown in jail if I don't pay those. Not a bodily autonomy issue. You are pointing to rare exceptions, and only applicable in very specific locations, to proof that child s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:01 AM
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So...area dependent?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:54 AM
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That's highly area dependent. ...and being without a home is also illegal in a lot of areas. Or essentially illegal. So yeah, being homeless would get you send to jail. You also can't eat food that's growing around unless it's from your land and if it's from your land, you need to pay for owning that land.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:49 AM
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my LTR and I have been using them for a couple years now and never had an accident. And there's 20% of people who can use zero birth control for an entire year, not even pull out and say the same. They are only ~1% less effective than hormones. In a laboratory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:45 AM
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Why should feminists bitch about that? Or even if they should, why does that need to be a priority for them over women's issues? Like...feminism is not a socialism? You fight your own battles, we support you. You arrange a protest, we show up. You demand a vote, we vote in your favor. And we are not gonna support you if it's in conflict with our issue...duh. Why are you expecting us to do the majority of the fighting for you? Especially when you are doing nothing??? Why should we care more about…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:40 AM
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Or because having to work for food and shelter isn't a bodily autonomy issue either?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:35 AM
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Dude... Not what I was talking about, again. You really do belief the "women have it easy" trope? An IUD has consequences. And some people have more consequences then others. And for some people, those consequences are too much and then it needs to come out. That's a risk with IUDs, who have bigger side-effects then the pill. There's people who don't stop bleeding on an IUD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:16 AM
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My best friend got her IUD for $25 and it lasts 10 years. And it might aswell have lasted 10 days. The fucking irony of calling me out for being lazy to research, while speaking about birth control uninformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:03 AM
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No, I was talking about the threat of pregnancy or having an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:49 PM
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That wasn't the point I was trying to make with calling them hormones. I was trying to say that just taking any birth control pill is taking hormones without a doctor trying to make sure that they're suitable for your body. Condomns are terrible way to prevent pregnancy if that's the only thing you are using. And low-cost is typically still unaffordable for your female version of Shaun. That is...if she can even take the risk of spending that money and maybe having to remove it emediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:42 PM
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You get that birth control are hormones right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:31 PM
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In this context, it means a person that's answering the core question instead of the situation that's being described. It wasn't an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:30 PM
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Which is probably why Shaun has so many difficulties. But don't you understand that not being able to have sex is not as bad as...you can lose all freedom over your own body if you do have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:57 PM
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And like... normally there's always someone like you and I get that and I ignore it. It's just that either people like you are now the majority in this comment section OR people genuinely belief that this woman is horribly entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:46 PM
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That's a different topic altogether? I'm saying that if you like 50%, then you might aswell just like everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:38 PM
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Go tell Shaun working the front register at Walmart how much he needs to enjoy the freedom to do everything you're talking about Yeah but the female version of Shaun can't afford birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:32 PM
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Right!!! No amount of hotness can save you from not meeting the minimum caring human being standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:23 PM
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Yeah, but why is everyone assuming she's worse then how he's describing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:22 PM
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Sure. I thank you for taking those men out of my dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:21 PM
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Then you 2 deserve each other I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:15 PM
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Eventually? Girl...you are selling yourself short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:09 PM
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But this dude is giving examples of what she asks for, amongst them "being taken care of when sick". Does that sound super entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:45 PM
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He's gonna get dumped every single time if he needs a conversation with you and tried to work things out In order to help her out when she's sick. That's not "she didn't communicate enough", that's him not being suitable to date anyone. Like yall are gassing him up when that example is right in the middle. How the fuck can yall complain that "work on your personality" is bad advice, when apparently yall lack basic empathy. The dude is fucking upset that he's not hot enough to get out of "taking …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:43 PM
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Have you read his examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:40 PM
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Dude...you can be FULL ON in the middle of the honeymoon phase and your boyfriend refusing to help you when you are sick would pull you straight out of that phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:38 PM
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Yes, knowing that yall don't give a fuck is the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:19 PM
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Everyone should be excluding 95% when there are so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:35 PM
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The average man not doing that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:11 PM
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When I see people complaining about male standards, it's typically not because they're high but because they have conflicting standards. Saying that it's near impossible to find a virgin woman at 25 that LOOOOVES sex, isn't saying that you have a high standard. None of those components are high standards. They just don't go together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:05 PM
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If you are in a first world country, there are physical matchmakers you can go to if needed. Bro...no. That's very much an Asian culture thing and sometimes available in countries that have a lot of migration and embraced said Asian culture such as America and Canada. I'm Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:01 PM
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Our matchmaking services are done by a computer. The only thing different from a dating app is that they create your profile for you, so that you can't lie. But then go back to swiping left and right. It's a dating app. Indian matchmaking, has matchmakers. You can tell them whatever the fuck and they're...no bullshit type of people which I appreciate. Like I can genuinely give my requirements and expect my ass to fit the requirements of the other dude because he can just say his shit aswell. Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:53 PM
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Dating apps and matchmaking are 2 different services. Exactly and our matchmaking services, are dating apps with extra steps. They're not at all like matchmaking services. Also a quick google search found me this Indian matchmaking services I'm whiiiiite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:47 PM
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No, we get dating apps with extra steps. That's not matchmaking. I would love an Indian matchmaking service. They sound so fucking amazing. How about all the women who are in relationships? I get this information from them. They are ok with more risk then I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:38 PM
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Sure, the conversation was about reducing risks. If you applied the same risk reducing skills and tactics you did for your job, as you did in dating.... Dating would not be as bleak. Yes...it is. Just because men say it's not doesn't make it so. .. you would have used a matchmaker..... I'm white. I would fucking love a matchmaker. But I'm white in a white as fuck country and we don't have em. Would LOVE it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:32 PM
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you decided that it wasn't worth it to do anything that would reduce risk to a manageable state. No, I don't think it's possible to reduce the risk to a manageable state because I have high demands for what a manageable state is. And that type of "refusing to consider my points and rewriting it in the worst way possible " is why I'm on the defensive. Do you keep money in a bank? that's too risky the bank my go bankrupt. I live in a country where my savings are guaranteed until 100.000. Do you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:12 PM
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You haven’t even thought up or made ANY vetting questions. Based on what? What my conversation with you? I've been consistently on the defense because you say shit like this: Risk averse is a fancy way of saying scared. When would I have had the chance? Btw, yes. And so what? I get to be scared and decide to not take risk. That's my prerogative and I'm not male so you can't appeal to my sense of pride like that... women have continuesly been shamed for not being scared enough. That type of shami…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:52 PM
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Lazy isn't the right word as I would do ANY amount of work for a 100% result. Like lazy is just yall buzzword to not have to really consider our motivation and try to shame us into doing it anyway without actually having to adress the concerns we have. Low-effort bro, might I even say...how lazy of you? The correct word to use for my behavior is risk-averse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:33 PM
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You aren't telling me anything new to reduce my risks. I know it all already. I'm way more advanced even. Like...men always show up with the most basic advice ever for our dating problems and expect that to solve shit. And then they call us stubborn for not trying the shit I've been trying since the beginning. You aren't skilled enough in this subject to advice me. Unless you can give me access to that magical way that men know who is an asshole, that would genuinely help, but this ain't that. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:27 PM
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FAILURE rate. Not success rate. The success rate is 70%. And that's the actual success rate of condoms when you use it IRL as opposed to in a laboratory. Laboratory has guaranteed working condoms, no factory failure, not kids thinking it's funny to stick it with needles and most importantly...people in a laboratory behave...stiff. And people IRL are horny or tipsy or rough. I see you are upset. ...based on what? Disagreement with you? Every women that disagrees must be emotional and thus upset? …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:05 PM
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0% chance of success and 0% chance of failure is better then 30% failure rate when the consequence at hand is life destroying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:49 PM
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If condoms were the only protective measure available, yeah.. they are not because of the 30% IRL failure. Like? You get that the consequence of failure is HUGE in that example?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:39 PM
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And that's not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:32 AM
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Because it was extremely shitty and I don't like experiencing shitty things? Like...whether or not you take a risk, isn't just about the risk factor. I know that if I'm regularly normally dating, that it's not very risky. Other women know this too. We're not complaining because we're getting pumped and dumped left and right. We're complaining because even just once, is too much. We don't like it. We don't like dating enough for it. To put it in an example, russian roulette. You have a gun with 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:19 AM
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well what would u say to a guy who got tricked for a green card who says "But she said she loved me sob sob", thats right, the same for any woman who complains who all guys are bad, dating doesnt benefits you? No? Like... the guy that got tricked for a green card is equal to a girl that got tricked by someone way out of her league for sex. In both of those scenarios, the odds of them being honest was less likely then the odds of them being dishonest. If you want to take on those odds, fine...but…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:56 PM
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We also know that. Hence why no one of us is giving proper advice to the men that genuinely need advice for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:52 PM
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Yeah, we got that. Your intent of replying to me, seems more about boasting about that, then having a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:37 PM
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Why do you think that mid to late 20s and 44 should have a noticable difference in looks? Like??? It's still just genetics at that point, not aging. The aging process doesn't START until 27/28 and then it's not like *snap the next day you are old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:59 PM
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...how can you possibly think you are a good guy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:44 PM
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The not good guy. I am dating and trying to avoid you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:38 PM
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It is impossible. It's not like if you can study this shit and then prevent it 100%. It's only 50% using your brain and the rest is...luck and acting difficult (which yall also complain about). You can't give me a set of rules to follow and then I will never get tricked. And if you can't do that...it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:31 PM
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Not always. I don't know anyone who even ends up with liars often. I got tricked once...I'm 30. So that's 1 in 30 people I've dated, no that's not n-count. The issue that...we have less inherent benefit from dating, so every extra road block can be enough to make us go "fuck this shit, I don't need it". And all of you going "but pick better"...give us a bad view about the so called good guys. We're mostly just venting and then you show up and go "pick better" as if...we didn't try that? You repr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:29 PM
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Hence why I said: "if only we could." Because the thing we have, isn't perfect. So why are you disagreeing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:20 PM
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...hearsay and purgery isn't allowed in a court of law. They ban hearsay and they punish purgery. No such consequences exist for men that tell me lies. And I ask questions. The issue is: the liars give the same answers as the good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:16 PM
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Here's a wild concept: people lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:04 PM
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Yeah...if only we fucking could. You were joking but that's EXACTLY the problem we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:57 PM
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And that's why we assume they're all assholes. Because you can't be that sexually successful with women without being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:39 PM
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I think men have a way too positive view on that, because they're not the ones being targeted by the fat comments. And as we're seeing all those comments, we bloody fucking know that if someone goes "no overweight women", it can mean absolutely ANYTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:31 PM
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Before I lost weight, I didn't matter. That I was too unattractive to date mattered. After I lost weight, I didn't matter. That I was attractive enough to date mattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:56 AM
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Because it CAN also be fat people when we say overweight. Like for example, if someone with a typical Asian build has an overweight BMI, then they're almost always fat. The BMI got designed for Europe men and adapted to women, during a time when women were stick-thin and didn't even run as exercise. That's not women nowadays, some of them even lift weights. And men already have these problems with BMI and exercising, but women it's these problems on steroids because the BMI has 0 account for boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:15 AM
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Did your opinions of the opposite sex get worse or change once you found (out by real life experience first hand) what makes the opposite sex attracted to you? Yes. But it's not really because of the "what makes them attracted part", it's WORSE. Before I lost weight, I didn't matter. That I was too unattractive to date mattered. After I lost weight, I didn't matter. That I was attractive enough to date mattered. I'm trying very hard to be happy single now. What revelation inspired you to change …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:32 AM
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Our system was created in the 60s, based on white men and adapted for white women. This gives several issues, 1) women in the 60s didn't work out, they didn't even run. This BMI chart for women is based on what a healthy weight is if you do 0 physical activity. 2) it got created for men and adapted for women... but men don't have all these different shapes that women have. You don't have apples and pears and triangles and all of those start having internal fat surrounding the organs (the reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:49 AM
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Depending in which area you live in, you would be at minimum cutting out 40% of women up to 70%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:38 AM
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Skanks...is a feminine term. Because tats are decorations and decorations are feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:09 PM
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I disagree, because my neck example wasn't an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:08 PM
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Ok, but if you couldn't? Would I be right then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:07 PM
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And if you can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:58 PM
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According to men, but when have women ever listened to men when it comes about fashion? Have you followed the last 10 make-up trends? Hint: men hate every single one of them. Your opinion on whether or not it's masculine or pretty doesn't matter. Popular women's opinion matter and they declared it pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:56 PM
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Decorations is feminine. You can't just make a new way to make yourself pretty with decorations and label it masculine and be surprised that women...want to do that. Decorations is hyper feminine behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:50 PM
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Sleeve tats are not feminine AT ALL Any type of decoration is feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:46 PM
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Yeah...cuw "uWu", not cuz masculine. Cuz it's feminine to decorate yourself like that, even if men started it in an attempt to look though. It's decorations either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:31 PM
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Yes they were. And women are gonna decor and decor and decor again and over again. Anything that you make up that's decor, is gonna get copied by women eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:21 PM
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Social limitations Decorations are decorations and women love decoration. "Love, live, laugh".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:12 PM
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They thought it was cool because it's a new to decorate. Women like decorations. Stop making up shit that's in women's field of interest and then you can go: and I'm sure "liberating". But it's freaking decoration and it's all not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:10 PM
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Lmfao no it doesn't work like that. Being significantly overweight is quantitative I wasn't arguing about whether or not they are factually overweight, so no. Skinny girls are typically the most weight insecure of us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:03 PM
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It's really not that deep, women like decorations, they like to decorate their home, they like to decorate the tree, they like to decorate their face, themselves with clothes and jewelry. And a sleeve is just another form of decoration, it's decorating your arm. Whenever you find a new way of decorating shit, women don't go "that's male now", we go "ooooh, I didn't think about that. That's cool.". You can't claim decorations as male and expect women to respect the masculinity of it. We love deco…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:01 PM
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How does that exclude 90% of them? The guy disqualifies them based on them being overweight, not them thinking they are overweight. I said, let's say you SHARE that... as in, you make people aware that this is a requirement/preference of yours. So their thoughts on themselves do matter and I didn't say that they had to think they were overweight. You will also be excluding skinny girls that know that they are skinny that still feel insecure about their weight. The insecurity is the problem here,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:03 PM
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That wasn't the thing I was no-ing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:57 PM
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Why does "men did it first" make it masculine? It so obviously falls under the broad category of "decorations " which is a feminine thing to do. Tell me what do men never copy women but women always copy men? Because men are afraid of getting perceived as feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:51 PM
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Based on what? Quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:47 PM
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I was saying shit about male impression of what's fat, I wasn't saying that finding a non-fat girlfriend was a hard thing to respond. And with your response, I could be a XS and still think that you are gonna call me fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:53 AM
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How about you go ask the people who actually daily risk both, what's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:28 AM
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Euhm? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:18 AM
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The results after the rape. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:10 AM
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I'm saying that having primarily worry about rape in a relationship is a privilege compared to having to worry about stranger rape. Saying one is worse then the other, isn't saying that the other is not bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:04 AM
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There are also more ways for individuals to be independent/strong than having a career. Not in this capitalist world. It absolutely can be and I'm sure that those types of independent/strong exist in rich circles where they have more freedom, but those 2 are very much intertwined for us common folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:55 AM
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I'm saying that there's a lot of shit that's traumatizing in life. Getting robbed is traumatizing. I know someone who is still not over that and very hyper vigilant and they weren't even home when that happened. They just came home, found the place robbed and got so immensely worried and traumatizing about the "what if I was home". Life can be summed up as a series of trauma. I'm not dismissing the trauma that rape gives, I even stated that it's traumatic. I just give it a different level of tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:53 AM
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I don’t wanna have to assume you just mean women with jobs. I didn't. I ment carreer women, women who try and build a carreer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:44 AM
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Those insecurities usually are something girls need to solve on their own, unless something like bullying is happening. The something that is happening is men getting upset at the women because they had said that they don't want fatties. While we have 0 clue what you mean with this. These are trained behaviors, not insecurity based. Its easy enough to look up the recommended guidelines for BMI and objectively determine if you are overweight or not, Which is why I said, it would be better if men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:44 AM
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Honey, yeah. That's carreer women. Whiners aren't carreer women, that's why they whine instead of do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:28 AM
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Multiple people. You know...rape is kinda common. If you only know 1 girl? The rest are hiding it pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:05 AM
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I really hope it will never happen to you or your family members I described it happening in the comment you replied too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:59 AM
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I was actually arguing that if they went around with a BMI calc, that it would be better. Not that they can, because no one is giving their weight, but I'm arguing that they're considering the normal high range as overweight. Even for the thin loving guys as long as the girl doesn't look pudgy it should be fine. Pudgy is normal weight though? Not even overweight. Women have an extra layer of fat surrounding their uterus. If she doesn't have that, then either she's part of the lucky 15% of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:58 AM
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The women I personally know that I could categorize as strong and independent are not even remotely insufferable and don’t depend on dumb gender rules like “men always pay for dates” cause they are actually independent. Do you mean...like the majority of carreer women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:17 AM
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You understand that if they're a 5/10 with make-up and everyone takes their make-up off, that they're still a 5/10 because the 4/10-3/10-2/10 took their make-up off, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:05 AM
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What I see being used, is typically "not overweight" and yeah that's a big ask. Especially because young men, have really skinny teenage girls in their head as the norm, while teenage skinny is typically a BMI of 15-17. Also, let's say you share that "I just don't want her to be overweight", you are now excluding every girl that's insecure about her weight, which is 90% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:01 AM
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Also the attractive people of Hollywood can't facetune themselves hotter in paparazzi photos. We have entire Instagram accounts, multiple, with people whose necks are bigger then their waist. And people who belief that these bodies are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:57 AM
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They also exist in the mind of children, teens, young adults and the inexperienced. Also known as this entire sub. To grow up is to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:54 AM
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Take those tattooed sleeved arms women all want now. Because women never ever wanted to draw on their clothes faces and body. They never ever wanted to dress up and... No make-up, that's masculine. Like, getting a tattoo is peak feminine behavior at its core, we as a society have just NOT labeled it as feminine, because we disapprove of this behavior. But women have always been into fashion trends and tattoos are just a fashion trend. Just because biker boys did it first, doesn't make it masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:51 AM
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I'm not saying that she does, I'm saying that my interpretation of his words, make that the importance of the word wife. Not the controlling part, the roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:44 AM
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Until you lose half of your belongings, You only lose half those belongings because you wouldn't be having them without her. If she workes: she also put in money. If she doesn't work: child care costs 1,2K/month for a baby and 800/month for a small child and that's talking cheap. Go and calculate the costs of her staying at home with the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:36 AM
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I interpreted it as him wanting the traditional roles in the house. Also known as: women does the household work cus that's her role, but she also has to work because we can't get by on 1 salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:33 AM
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Oh I'm sure that the men are happier. A bit nasty of them, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:10 AM
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30s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:56 PM
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Yeah, but they lose enthusiasm then. We all get tired, especially with age, but they don't lose the horny when tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:52 PM
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I'm saying that they're very interested in giving an orgasm to girls until they realize girls are expecting sex that can give an orgasm every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:42 PM
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Until they realise that it's not just dressing up once or twice or tying up once or twice. It's forever...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:12 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:55 PM
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They like: in / pumping / finish. They also like getting ridden, but that ain't happening all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:39 PM
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... Yes it fucking is. Like bro... bro... Oh God. Yes it is. Men that have experience are NONSTOP complaining about the type of sex that women want. You get that the not tender loving sex is typically a lot of work for the guy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:30 PM
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...why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:15 PM
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You are aware that that is how you need to start, right? A lot of these movies focus on first, second or third fuck. I would like to get bend over, slapped, candle-wax and knife my shit...but if that's the first move you got, ima scream in terror. Also original top gun is by men for men. It's male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:12 PM
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I was talking about giving women enough freedom to afford independent from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:51 PM
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Back in my blue pill days, I bought into this bullshit and thought that girls wanted to be fucked slow and lovingly and tenderly. Who told you that??? Cuz it ain't women. Like it's some women, but more then enough other women to counter that. Like really: who told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:50 PM
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I already explained it initially: for most people that would be considered to unspeakable to be a choice. So no trade-off, since OFFCOURSE we're doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:46 PM
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Not sure what this particular issue has to do with evil though Because you were arguing for soft slavery of women. I don't think you were realizing it though. And I consider that evil. But given that people tend to date and mate within their class, it's intertwined... Women being independent is currently way too new to know whether or not survival dating instincts can be untrained. Like people keep missing that part, the gen z's are the first generation of women to have complete freedom. Millenn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:41 PM
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Not with increasing your income, it comes with women having increased income. Just like becoming more developed to the point of abolishing slavery ment that you had to do more yourself or employ people. "The fuck, before we became a developed country, I never had to do shit. I didn't need to cook, I didn't need to do the dishes, I didn't need to do the laundry. How fucking ironic that I need to do all that shit as we are becoming more developed." Nobody said that being a good person made your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:33 PM
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I'm referring to women as a luxury item.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:23 PM
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I personally think any rape has the capacity to be traumatizing Yes, agreed, which is why I carefully chose my words to say "for the majority". But western males don’t run this risk at all, yet accuse their female counterparts of having it easy I was the one saying that they have it easy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:28 PM
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It's not all that common in western worlds for women to experience rape and assault under the form that's traumatizing to the majority. We experience rape in the form of coercion, inability to consent because we're under the influence, drugging, "the implication", etc. And while all of that is bad, it's still a position of privilege to have to worry about that, instead of people snatching you off your bike to rape you. And the trauma afterwards... it's insignificant in comparison to violent rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 03:21 PM
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I think that a lot of people in a first world country, live life on easy mode and that includes the men. Do we ever have to worry about food? No, not really. Water? No. Shelter? No. And offcourse I'm talking about first world here within the context of an advanced country, not the war. Like, these men here are complaining about the lack of finding available women to date and marry and have kids with and if the only missing piece of that puzzle is the woman, that's easy mode. There's like one thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:20 PM
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Easy to see the difference: is there a cause of stress or is there not? Also why would I be having sex with you, stop, have sex again, stop, sex, stop, if I prefer having sex with someone else? Wouldn't that be: barely have sex, stop, the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:33 PM
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YOU ARE FUCKING 21, chill out, it's gonna happen. Don't ruin yourself before you get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:42 AM
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Yeah and I stick around too when he's too stressed to have a relationship. That's normal. That happens regularly over a lifetime. Life happens, shit happens and then it goes away again. Stress happening shouldn't be a problem unless you don't stop having stress and that's a bigger problem then just for your relationship. What kind of life are you having then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:06 AM
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In one hand I have the destruction of my relationship through resentment, in the other I have the destruction of my relationship through resentment. If problems arise because I'm human, the relationship is already dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:36 AM
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Check out a reply I made earlier to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:34 PM
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Have you seen the economy lately? I'm more likely to label a 25y old NOT living with their parents as a loser, because of probability to lack qualities such as perseverance, good family relations, prioritizing longterm stability, a bit of a reach...but he might also prioritize the ability to have casual sex over financial health. Sorry, but not a good hubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:55 PM
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I said then that stress is the relationship killer. To which I replied: expecting me to be superhuman is the relationship killer. Because either you are expecting me to never have stress ever (superhuman) or you think its reasonable to find women who don't have that response (possible but not reasonable enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:08 PM
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Extremely late in life goals compared to his peers. So a 25y old living with his parents is no issue, a 35y old is. Criminal history offcourse...Unless it's shit like smoking weed. If I need to take care of you. So yeah...if you don't have a job, then I need to take care of you. No. I'm not gonna do that. Tries to make me fit a mold. Usually this is done because of sexist reasons, but I don't care WHY you are doing it. I don't want to get shoved into a mold regardless or reason. This ain't the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:06 PM
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I have issues with male doctors acting like they are authority figures over female psychology. No they're, they are really good at observing at best. You asking me if I've read it? I've read his books. So you noticed him being ok with no sex for months? Then why you hating on me not being horny when stressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:53 PM
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Life is always stressful. You should fix that... Like, that was a bit snap-back-y, but also true. You shouldn't be feeling stress all the time. That's a problem. That should be fixed if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:42 PM
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Onlook, a guy psychologist, offcourse. Speaking off, my gynecologist once said that my ex just HAD TO BE abusing me because why else would I want to get sterilized? Male doctors...so fun. Edit: bro...did you read that? The dude made the couple stop having sex for several months.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:19 PM
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No. Expecting superhuman abilities is the relationship killer. Stress is normal. Stress happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:02 PM
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Because I don't get stressed in a monogamous relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:43 PM
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I guess it just wasn't ment to be...let's get drunk and complain about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:23 PM
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He can leave. Doesn't sound like lot of a loss the way you describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:05 PM
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I also don’t think people try to work on their health and improving themselves like they should. Well that's an entirely different conversation and it's my experience that people who tell me this, typically refuse to listen to what I'm saying about my health choices, which is ironic considering that you are currently criticizing bad communication. If two people have great communication and if two people try to be the best people for themselves first and their partner second then I think your poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:04 PM
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Stress is part of life. Yes, so I can't avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:54 PM
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I was just editing to add this: It's like standing in the middle of the room and the light turns off. Why did it turn off? "Hey, maybe a fuse shorted?", you don't know that a fuse shorted...it's an educated guess and then you go check out the fuses to see if you are right. Finding out why you aren't horny is like that... a bunch of educated guesses. Maybe that helps clarify a bit? They're attempting to communicate, they're attempting to fix. They just don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:45 PM
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It shouldn't be, but a lot of guys jump to assuming it's being weaponized, because they don't understand the reason a woman is giving for the lack of sex. And...to be fair, it's really hard to understand the reason, when in most scenarios women don't bloody understand the reason. Which is what's missed in a lot of these scenarios, the man wants answers, the man wants to fix the situation, there's a problem, LET'S SOLVE IT!!!! Horny doesn't work like that for women. There's a lot of hormones. I o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:39 PM
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As someone with a high libido, who has done the whole routine you just described...men REALLY seem to underestimate the effects of stress on libido in some people. My ex, if he was stressed, would turn to sex to deal with his stress. I ain't fucking horny when I'm stressed AND turning him down is something I experience stress from. Well, I experience stress from it and I start mentally turning sex into a chore...because you know... can't be turning him down all the time and chores aren't hot eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:30 PM
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A once in a lifetime event isn't sparingly within this context. Let's say everyone that you know has been raped once? That's a lot. Let's say everyone you know has been robbed once? That's a lot. That's a couple of millions of events. That's a lot. It's not rare if it happens to every girl on average once. That's a lot. The ideal is 0. And how often do these women even try to date someone, in order to get turned down after sex? Like let's say they meet 20 strangers that they're interested in dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:35 AM
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A once in a lifetime event isn't sparingly within this context. Let's say everyone that you know has been raped once? That's a lot. Let's say everyone you know has been robbed once? That's a lot. That's a couple of millions of events. That's a lot. It's not rare if it happens to every girl on average once. That's a lot. The ideal is 0. And how often do these women even try to date someone, in order to get turned down after sex? Like let's say they meet 20 strangers that they're interested in dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:39 AM
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Again: algorithm. Also we whine our ass off that once in a lifetime. We want 0 a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:45 AM
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which happens quite often actually. How is it imaginary? Yall ppd men require this to happen quite often, because those fucking women deserve it for not fucking you. In reality it happens maybe once in a lifetime. and see so many girls complaining about how they were dumped after a guy got sex and were ghosted and couldnt get a relationship etc I'm on tiktok and have never seen such a video, you are aware that tiktok uses an algorithm that if you like something, it pushed forward videos of that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:57 AM
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Because pump and dump is (again) a revenge fantasy. If it looks, smells or breathes like karma: it probably isn't real but imaginary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:33 AM
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It's a bit impossible for women to prevent men from taking a wide net approach. If yall dream of being DA CHAD, yall wide net approach. If yall have to wait a lil bit, yall wide net approach. The only way women could possibly prevent a wide net approach is to become massive whores who just fuck everyone. But like... no thnx.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:28 PM
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If they don't have spontaneous desire on their own, then they won't have spontaneous desire on their own after you've shown them how good sex can be. And most men hate having to be the initiator 100% of the time. But if you pick a girl that doesn't feel desire enough to want sex without your ass turning her on, that's your position. The initiator. 100%. Cuz you can't argue your way into her feeling that desire every now and then and initiating every now and then. And as soon as you grow older an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:41 PM
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but it is what it seems to be happening. It's confirmation bias. Just like most of us, kinda still belief the fantasy that bullies get hit with karma in some way. That the pretty bullies get to be fat and ugly and unhappy. Like we've all heard stories about how that bitch got married to this asshole and got dumped and now has to take of his kids as a struggling single mom muahahahahaha. ...it's not true... Truth is that if she was hot and popular in high school and kinda mean, she's more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:22 PM
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It's not common, there's enough Chads to go around, because yall have overblown the amount of women that are doing this. The vast majority of women "sample" Chad and then go "Nah, that wasn't fun.".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:07 PM
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No. It is uncommon. Yall just have this revenge fantasy in your head and that type of come-uppance isn't real. Karma isn't real. It's feel-good bullshit. The women that used to be able to get Chad.. still fucking are later in life. Chad decides to settle down at about the same time that the women do and they used to be the hottest of women and they typically still are the hottest of women so Chad picks them. Unless YOU change, they don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:59 PM
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Sure...it happens...occasionally. For reasons like you just explained. That happens sometimes. But it's not the norm. It's a revenge fantasy. Like getting told that your bully will grow up miserable because they peaked in high school, or because only dumb people bully. People love to tell revenge stories as if they're reality because people love a just true world fantasy, but that's not how all of this works. If they didn't want you before, they probably won't after. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:24 AM
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and suddenly that hottie from your sophomore years who is now very used up and not so pretty anymore wants you. ...no Like sure, IT HAPPENS, occasionally. What's more likely is that that hottie from sophomore year, still doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:42 AM
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It ain't bland uniformity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:26 AM
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Just the same as you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:18 AM
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I offcourse was talking about ppd's version of hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:16 AM
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And you replied that to a person going "I see men being more hung up over these educated exes". (Differently phrased)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:13 AM
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Women are non-stop complaining about men being this uniform blob. You have women constantly complaining about the wide net approach. Pick 20 random guys outside and you are gonna have 5 guys or more wearing plaid, 5 guys or more wearing a shirt, almost all of them wearing jeans unless they wear a suit, like...the shoes, 15 or more are gonna have short hair, 10 or more are gonna have the variant that's basically this: https://images.app.goo.gl/o4tCrv2GgAwkqkYQ9 Every male celebrity that doesn't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:51 AM
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How is it misunderstood, in the context that the person you replied too, was using it? They used the type of "carreer is a problem" that you explained. Valuing their carreer over the partner and family is more likely to happen when you have an interesting carreer. I'm much more willing to sacrifice my 9to5 desk job of filling in Excell spreadsheets to be at PTA meetings, then I am if I were a NASA scientist. I'm not going to leave work early to discuss bake sales when I'm launching a new robot i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:11 AM
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They're also more likely to initiate couples therapy, they're even more likely to be the one to set the appointment for couples therapy even if they were NOT the ones asking for couples therapy, but they are more likely to ask. They are also more likely to be at parent teacher meetings or being the one to have filed in the documents required by the doctor or the one to fill in the insurance documents or... Like men HATE divorce and they hate paperwork and they have these misconceptions about div…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:27 PM
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Not the person you are replying too, but I think that, yeah people that have been abused are more likely to get into another abusive one, but I see that defensive behavior as the cause. They have their backs against the walls, they're acting crazy and the abusers recognize that behavior and are more interested in dating them because of that and the abusers are likely the only people that will put up with the crazy behavior at the beginning. A normal guy is running away. And then the abuser loveb…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:21 PM
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Why is it that the cheaters always seem more hung up on their ex relationship and with difficulties to move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:12 PM
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You are replying to someone that says that men seem to get hooked on women with interesting careers. You think that the people with interesting careers aren't valuing that above their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:09 PM
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Yeah... Because the bio clock as we know and use it is the body pushing women to start having babies. That's not a thing. It's subconscious panicking about the clock running out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:05 PM
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... It's a scientific fact: women will one day cease being able to have children. Yeah...I mentioned that one as the reason for the mental bio clock. Women know that they will cease to be able to have kids, so they freak out. Nature's bio clock is just: have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:27 PM
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Or we're all just being honest, but limited by our gender. When I used to go "fix your personality", I was thinking about all the men I refused to date because of their personality. When you go "lose weight", you are thinking about all the women that you would find attractive enough to date except they're too fat. We're trying to fix the opposite genders problems by fixing the problems we have with supply, while that's not how the opposite gender perceives the problem. We we're asking for advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:43 AM
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For the same reason yall hate "work on your personality". It presumes that there is something wrong with me already, it doesn't target the issue that I was complaining about and it's more about fulfilling the opposite gender their desires surrounding dating then maximally helping me. Or in other words, it's just whining back about your troubles under the disguise of advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:11 AM
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Oh, you are probably confussed because I thought that you were a girl that's not attractive, complaining about her hot friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:21 AM
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Attractive women are able to become wealthy just by virtue of being attractive, That's not a dating thing... That's a work/ambition thing, even if they're a gold diggers, they treat dating as work...that's a work thing. They ain't doing it like the rest of us, they're not trying to find a compatible partner, they're at work. So...that's not dating. And I wasn't even denying that being attractive opens doors, it does. I'm talking about the dating problems of women though. Comparatively, very unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:21 AM
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I want a partner too, want isn't the issue. There's dating problems and the best solution is to accept being alone. The best advice for a woman struggling to get a really great guy is to maximize her appearance i.e. hit the gym 3-5x a week. Honey, no. Just no. That's like my ass going "just work on your personality." It works, but it works more in the advantage of the opposite gender then your personal advantage. Hot women experience the exact same issues that us lesser attractive women experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:23 AM
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Most women are capable of growing themselves in that position and you aren't giving them the right advice for that, for the same reason why women aren't giving short men the right advice: you are limited by your own experiences and your experience is that you won't be able to be happy alone (so you cant wrap your head around this being the best solution) and self-preservation...you can't be advicing all these women to stay alone when you'll go insane staying alone, supply issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:08 AM
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It is "fuck women" when you look at the way y'all phrase this fucking shit. And I do offcourse. You jump from "unrealistic expectations" to "why should a worthless ass like you...". The collective of men can't seem to discuss "unrealistic expectations" without going "fuck women". Fortunately you don't have to hear how a woman can improve herself from me, because women have set up communities to do just that, like the vindicta subreddit for example. The improvement is self-love and removing yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:00 AM
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hypergamy and modern day women's unrealistic standards, I don't belief those and that's NOT ignoring what yall are saying. I can repeat all of your arguments. I still don't belief those. a woman on here made a post saying her 40 year old friend is asking where are all the good men while simultaneously saying hitting the gym and making 80k is nothing impressive. Those people ALWAYS existed, they just get a platform now. The internet creates a bubble that puts all of these in your front view, whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:42 AM
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Yes. Not boyfriends though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:27 AM
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When women hear about men's issues they say Yeah. It's a bit hard to keep having sympathy when I keep getting told to just "deal with it", about my issues. And especially because when I'm giving "actionable advice", I typically get shit too. guys "be yourself" "work on your personality" as if a 5'5 dude is struggling because of his personality. You can't fucking grow on demand. What am I supposed to do? Tell you to just take grow pills? That is actionable advice and you hate it for the same reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:12 AM
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that they think they have things as hard are set in their ways Because yall refuse to listen to the reasons WHY we're having it hard. All of this shit relates to you, you get it, you accept that it's hard. My ass whining about not knowing the intent of men, will just get an "Well, us too" at best. You don't get it, you don't relate and you don't wish to understand why I would make such a big deal out of it to the point of not dating anymore. "Just pick better.".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:47 PM
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There aren't. That's been studied. That's fact. A bio clock is the same as a mid-life crises, it's just you going crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:07 PM
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Which we know is true because: see average amount of child support being paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:05 PM
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No mental anguish, you had no control over that baby getting born either way. But dudes ability to choose starts to opt-in or out starts at the moment of proving that she hides and if he then decides to opt-out, child support should be paid back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:05 PM
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Gender solidarity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:01 PM
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There are no biological clocks...and the theory about a biological clock is about 30y old women getting the tickety tickety toc, not 20y old women. We're talking about 20y olds here. But to go back: the bio clock is debunked. It's not bio based, it's knowledge based. It's women freaking out because they're running out of time to have kids. Like we all know that eventually you can't have kids anymore and if you are 30 and without kids and you want them...your mind goes "oh ow" and that's the biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:46 PM
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There's no biology that makes women want to settle down and have kids sooner then men. And if men can overcome their biology that tells them to start having babies in their 20s, then so can women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:55 PM
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Right, but the other guy made an argument about "what women like". He should know shit like that if he's gonna argue about female desires and preferences. Like, if I'm gonna argue about "what men find attractive", I'm not just randomly gonna pick a celebrity. I'm sure that I can pick any random actress and singer and be right about them being attractive to men, but that's just because ALL OF THEM are attractive. For example Dua Lipa. I'm sure there are plenty of men that do find Dua Lipa very at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:57 PM
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And there's no available 30y old that has a female fandom????
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:37 PM
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That's debateable and I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:15 PM
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that people will break the laws and lays out what those offenses are to be charged That's what I ment: you punish people when guilty. You don't go "We should punish people in advance because they are probably gonna be cheat the law anyway". And assuming that women are going to lie about pregnancy to entrap the fathers, so giving fathers a different deadline because of that, is doing the second. It's punishing the innocent by presuming guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:39 AM
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It's not getting violated? You aren't being forced to donate kidneys to the child, you aren't being forced to donate blood and the initial donation of sperm was voluntary. Like...yall keep acting like being forced to work for money is the same violation of your body as being forced to have reduced bladder control and have your vagina ripped to the first degree (both +90% odds consequences of pregnancy). You are gonna receive a lot more empathy for your cause, if you stop comparing getting a forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:16 AM
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Based on what? Because forced pregnancy is actually listed as a form of torture and war crime. That's not just my personal opinion. That's widely considered as barbaric, the only debate that's at play is whether or not accidental pregnancy counts as forced pregnancy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:02 AM
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I wasn't addressing your point, I'm wondering why you don't pick men that women go crazy about for your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:27 AM
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what if the women hides it as long as possible so that its too late to get a safe abortion and his financial abortion option is too late as well? We don't make laws based on presuming that people will break the law. We practice innocent until proven guilty. Not just in the court, also in the law. We punish the people that break the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:10 AM
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It's bodily autonomy > best of the child. Abortion isn't being allowed so that women can choose to not have kids, that's a side effect. A side effect that might be the primary reason that a lot of women get an abortion, but a side effect for legalizing it anyway. The primary reason for why abortion is legal, is because otherwise you are forcing pregnancy and the consequences of pregnancy on people. And that's a step too far. Forced pregnancy is even listed as a form of torture, that has been use…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:08 AM
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I am in my mid-30s and my girlfriend is 19. I am probably going to propose to her soon so she will be my fiance. Dude... Like I'm not even against dating younger people, because I see that as mutually beneficial. You aren't just taking, you are also giving. But let the kiddo grow up before you marry her. 23-25ish, the later the better. 19 is way to fucking young to be a fiancee. Like that's the major issue with these age gap relationships, you want shit to happen AT YOUR SPEED. But you are older…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:11 AM
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Like, that's a problem rich established 30-40y olds experience now. Up until they got to 30-40, you actually had a relatively easy time finding an under 30y old woman that was their preference, that wanted to settle down with them after 3-5ish years of dating. Nowadays? Hell no. Like...yeah you can find an under 30y old woman to date and have fun with within your preference. Go to clubs, travel the world, nice restaurants, fun, fun, fun. But settle down??? Under 30??? Have kids??? Under 30??? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:54 AM
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Couldn't you at least have picked a guy that has a fandom like Harry Styles or Tom Hiddleston?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:44 AM
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Also the ability to feel the emotions surrounding the consequences in advance. "OH, I'm gonna go to jail." is more fearfully felt at 30 then at 20 when it's just a far away potential consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:40 PM
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Bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:34 PM
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Bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:11 PM
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....sooooo, easy when you are a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:03 PM
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Men fear the unknown and uncontrollable. That doesn't mean they like where they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:49 PM
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Better solution: leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:48 PM
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Be better, offer more, get what you want. Don't bother, stay single, get what you want And I speak that way about women needs as well. We know. That's why we leave. Not the actual issues most of the time. The way you talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:33 PM
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Both. I never denied that men wanted a SAHM before having one, I was very specific in talking about men that actually had a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:08 PM
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It is not that men force women to spend a specific amount of effort and time on domestic tasks. Women spend said time to meet their own standards. Meeting my standard is hella easier if there isn't a guy involved. Yes. I would be ok with that phrasing I'm fucking not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:56 AM
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I've already answered it: They get frustrated about the reality of a SAHM. That it's a real person and that it doesn't go exactly like in their imagination. men would have forced women to vote and work in the same way women are now 1000 years ago That's for the same reason why the current desire of men, is still to have a SAHM: they like the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:54 AM
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there i no reason why a man would hate a high-quality feminine nurturing sweet peaceful woman that take care of their children well Yes there is. And they do. the only people that hate stay at home women are women that are anti-traditional roles, aka feminists or men that were raised by fmeinists You can't use that boogeyman on me. I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:37 AM
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I wasn't talking about ANY woman hating it. I was talking about men hating it. And to repeat: I'm a woman, we talk about this shit amongst each other, 60% of women identify as a variation of feminism so you can't use the male boogeyman against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:21 AM
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It's not hard, you just become a SAHM and almost every guy turns into a hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:57 AM
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I just speak about it as I witness it. Find me 1 man IRL that doesn't semi-openly hate his SAHM and you have a better shot at convincing me. But you really don't stand a chance when I know do many that do and 0 that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:52 AM
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Sounds like an incompatibility. Yes, but that's wasn't the question. So I am the one that has to pay for it and do what I need to do to get it. Also wasn't the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:47 AM
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Yes, they are. And women can handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:14 AM
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I didn't say most men, I said most men that want a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:47 AM
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I see how they respond to the reality of a SAHM. They want a sim. And that's why it only works if the woman is the SAHM, cuz men wouldn't put up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:27 AM
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I'm not labeling the SAHMs. I'm labeling the SAHMs husband's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:16 AM
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Because when you say this attractive sweet nurturing high quality stay-at-home wives that take care of their children That exists, but not in the way you are imagining it. And you hate the reality version of this wife that's an actual person and not a SIM that adapts to whatever you want whenever you want without their own desires or feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:59 AM
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Why do you think I don't know their wives? I'm not voluntarily hanging out with men that talk shit about their SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:54 AM
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I hear otherwise too and then the nasty comments come anyway. Like...since the beginning of our convo, I have talked about hearing it from men who have SAHMs. They have SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:47 AM
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I hear how they talk about them. IRL even.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:44 AM
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I hear how they talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:41 AM
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But that's not what we're discussing... we're discussing SAHM's. I hear what men say about SAHMs. Some of them say it right in the group while their wife (the SAHM) is right there. And speaking off...the demonizing feminists. You understand that as a woman, I have these types of talk with other women, of whom 60% self-identify as a variation of feminist, right? You can only pull that shit on men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:37 AM
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You do understand that I can hear and read what men say, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:13 AM
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That's what I hear from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:24 AM
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Most men don't have anything that can be called a high standard when it comes to house duties/tasks. Women are the ones taking more effort than it is necessary. If you want sex every day and she wants sex once a month, would you be ok with phrasing that as "men are just more demanding about sex then what's necessary" when she's talking about the compromise of twice a week? Because yall keep talking about our needs like that. You create more of a pigsty then I do, probably because you don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:55 AM
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As someone that is living what I am speaking about... not really. Again, it follows that if you love someone you give them an easy life. ....as the guy. Like I'm sorry but I've seen several women work their assess off while the guy is all "I provide them with the easy life ". And like in some way you are. They could be doing all of that AND working. ...but yall are acting like they don't do work. That they don't have burdens and pressures. You are acting like they're sitting on their ass. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:04 AM
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I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:19 AM
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Who doesn't want an easy life? The difference is that if a man loves a woman he is willing to provide that for her. And I'm saying that that shit only works, because the woman isn't actually having the easy life. She's actually doing work or he would be upset. Found a solution. Remove children from the picture, actually provide my partner with an easy life without work so I don't need to value a work that is not there. Solved. Found someone that wants to take that deal. You would still need to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:19 AM
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The issue is that they're thinking that they are doing this women a kindness choose a sweet feminine, nurturing, peaceful, kind, submissive woman that doesn't earn much or stays at home to take care of the kids While those women are also thinking that they're sacrificing for their husband as a kindness. It works because both people are working hard for their partner. With stay-at-home-husbands, all I see are men expecting to sit at home and have a great time doing nothing. They aspire to be SAHP…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:36 PM
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Also you keep referencing YOU personally...which isnt the discussion... No, you keep assuming I am because I'm disagreeing with you: I don't have kids, I don't want kids, everything we've discussed doesn't even apply to me. Look up my comment history, I'm pretty vocally anti-having-kids. Just because I disagree with you and I'm a woman, doesn't mean that I'm making shit personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:12 PM
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Do you think that women are talking about the men that have such hard jobs, when they're talking about helping out after work? That's not the standard, yet yall be dusting off those jobs, for this argument. Most men also work office jobs or service industry jobs. And you damn well know it. here's the other fun part....having a kid was YOUR DECISION.... HIS TOO...yet I'm supposed to do all the major sacrificing and he can do the same ass job as he was doing before the baby, and doesn't even need …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:39 PM
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I work nowhere near as hard at work, as it took me to take care of my baby niece for 2 hours. GIMME WORK!!!! I'll do massive amounts of overtime, just to not have to handle a baby. Like yall are acting like we don't know what work is? We had jobs before having babies. We can compare the amount of effort it takes. Having a baby is the fucking same as your first shitty student job where the manager was taking advantage of your inexperience and working you to the bone while making you feel bad abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:50 PM
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on welfare Key component here. You need to be on welfare or rich to afford baby daycare. poor people can't afford to only have one income in the household Welfare.... or don't have kids if you can't afford them. You can also as a dad, not have kids if you aren't actually willing to be a parent, just a provider. So what's the woman doing in this situation? Like you essentially want men to work 1.5 jobs while the woman does 0.5 jobs, how is that a fair division of labor? I think you need to be giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:42 PM
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Yeah, it's the norm that the worker husband only has to do 1 thing and the worker wife has to do 2 things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:25 PM
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The issue that it's unfair and unfair is considered the standard. Men can want to have kids and just need to take a financial step back. Women want kids and if they need to take a financial step back, a carreer step back, a sleep step back, they need to give up all free time and if they're asking even a crumble of support from their partner it's "he's working". And that's the bar. But yeah being a stay at home parent is a luxury that most can't afford, Not having a SAHM is a luxury that most can…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:12 PM
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I got send to daycare at a fucking reasonable age: 3 years old. Who the bloody hell is pro sending babies to day care? Like I'm not gonna call single parents who NEED TO, bad parents, because sometimes life just makes you take the bad choice because there are no good options. But you are fucking arguing that that should be the standard and if you don't want that, then you deserve being a single parent in a 2 parent home, because YOU made the choice to be a stay at home mother. And that ladies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:29 PM
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You are gonna send a baby to a babysitter? The bar is in FUCKING HELL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:01 PM
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you're not dating those other people so just ignore them 1 No. Like who cares you don't even agree with them anyway. Well, because of shit like this: Also tho if you're a stay at home parent then caring for the house is your job, so why should the person who works 40+ hours without any help from the stay at home parent take on another job that should be the responsibility of the stay at home parent? Women get treated like shit as an expectation, yeah I'm gonna bitch about that. Housework takes w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:42 PM
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The bar isn't personal standards. The bar is the level where people start calling you "too demanding" for having those standards. Women get called "too demanding" for wanting things like, help at home after work when you are the SAHM. Your personal standards can be sky-high, doesn't fucking matter, you do you. That doesn't make it the bar though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:15 PM
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When men talk about standards, they're talking about how fat/non-fat she is, they're talking about how argumentative she is, they're talking about how pretty her face is, etc. When women talk about standards, they're talking about ambition, pro-activeness, providing attention and etc. Men are talking about shit that can be judged without dating the person. Women are talking about shit that you can't find out until you date the person. Yall are complaining that the bar for entry to a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:28 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:36 AM
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The blindness is intentionally done by republican politicians and smarter republican conservatives, that have a smooth tong. Those people don't go "this is what women are saying and this is why they're wrong and why our policies are actually good", a vast majority of them are shutting the fuck up about those policies or even straight-up lie by going "I think this should be a state issue instead of federal as I think all policies should be decided by states themselves and that's what I'm fighting…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:59 AM
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They just don't see the "hatred of women" part of conservative policies and think that it's not a disagreement about morals/values, but a disagreement about policies. See: the Roe v. Wade example that I used. A lot of them genuinely belief that conservative versus democrats is a disagreement about how we use our taxes or whether state should have more indepent rights versus federal or preserving our culture. They just are absolutely blind to the morals/values aspect. Like, the amount of times I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:36 AM
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I said surprising, because I wasn't sure of how you were using "interesting", I still don't completely understand what you mean with interesting The anger always shocks me. Because you just said, you don't find it surprising, but the anger shocks you? Like offcourse it's a major issue, just like being in a "fuck cats" group openly, would effect your ability to date women who like cats or even own cats. Except...conservatives seem absolutely blind to how voting conservative are likely to effect w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:12 AM
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Why? None of that is surprising or interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:53 AM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:41 AM
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Well...yeah? Like, look outside? One problem though, men in my experience either massively overrate a woman's BMI or underrate a woman's BMI. You have the guys that are like, "if she's not like a thin teenager, then she's overweight", while teenager can have a healthy BMI of 15-16 (as they're still growing and developing) and for almost ANY adult woman that's extremely underweight and in need of medical care. But if you like a skinny teenager, then you think that that's the low range of average …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:37 PM
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Wanna see more agreement of women? Rephrase: "are most modern women's standards too high?" Into: "why do a lot of modern women don't want to date unless it's with exceptional men?" Like, yall keep rephrasing the issue into something that's the most "FUCK WOMEN, they're trash!!!" and then you are surprised that women aren't agreeing with you or participating in your discussions or giving a damn about your issues. It's not that women's standards are too high, it's that women are sick of dating and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:36 PM
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There's my ex-BIL, tall, has the right natural build with broad shoulders, good face, etc. Good IT job. Bad family relations. Had no lack of succes with getting relationships, couldn't manage to keep one until he met his wife. His issues were having this very old fashioned meets modern view of relationships in a very modern country. So, he wanted to built wealth together, so they both had to have good jobs, but he never lifted a finger doing housework himself. That type of guy. He also had issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:47 PM
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What I've never met is the middle aged person who isn't wiser (no matter how stupid) than they were when they were younger. I've met several. My older ex-BIL was a stand-up guy with good insights in politics, helped younger ex-BIL get a foot into politics, etc. He started smoking at 30, now believes in flat-earth theory and is a wild conspiracy theorist in other ways. This other dude was a applied politics and criminology major with a side of programming. Now completely burned down, trying to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:53 PM
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and he will have a huge selection to choose from. 300K isn't enough to buy you a huge selection if you are 50. 300K + 25-35years old = huge selection 500K + 50years old = decent selection +1000K + 50 years old = huge selection Hot gold diggers still have options, even though they're gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:29 AM
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If you are a woman, the just being good enough to sleep with isn't more desirable then not being able to get someone to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:25 AM
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"Women don't have a sense of humor" <= typically being said because a woman didn't laugh at a "get back in the kitchen" type of joke. Another woman makes a simular joke about men => RAGE!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:12 AM
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...it's trolling... It's like yall can't see trolling when it's being done by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:19 PM
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Whether or not my opinion makes sense isn't part of why you were being ridiculous. It's that you knew my opinion and still asked a leading question, about the opposite of my opinion. That's stupid. What were you hoping to accomplish with that? That I magically forgot my opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:44 PM
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Because it's ridiculous. And you know it's ridiculous. The way I phrased my statement already states that women get told this too? And if you disagree with me, you can. But I have already clearly given the opinion that you are asking me questions about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:22 PM
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the question still remains lol. So I use a suggestion that constantly gets said by ppd men to women...and you wonder why only men ever have to do that???????????
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:01 PM
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...did you miss the part that said "to use the PPD male motto"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:33 PM
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To use the PPD male motto: maybe you should pick better then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:25 PM
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Some do. That's the thing with a variety of desires: you will always find a decent enough group of women that desires the thing you can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:45 PM
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Women can easily just delete matches they don’t like hearing from on any dating app. Yes. And? Why are yall thinking I won't leave an app even though I can delete harassers? Being able to delete them, doesn't make it neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:54 PM
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The issue is that regardless of what women say their standards are and how much variety there is between what women say their standards are (so that women can have high standards because low competition), men aren't listening. They're not arguing about the high standards of women, they are arguing that their desired male form (which offcourse all women want, because thats THE DESIRE!!!!) is hard to achieve. Women's standards are always gonna be considered too high, because women's standards will…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:21 PM
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I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how yall are not seeing the trolling. Like, they're not exactly being subtle here. They post shit about male slavery as repayment sometimes? And yall are just like "yes...they think like that!!!!". ...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:12 PM
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They are, like... I already told you that the subject isn't what makes this so unbelievable. You just wrote the women as caricatures, as Sims for your fantasy, they're unbelievable false.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:19 PM
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Yeah PPD men fantasize about it a lot. You won't find it outside of PPD users or the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:45 PM
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But being a woman is a disadvantage in most prestigious work places like being a doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:55 AM
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It's not a shitty dude. It's a young adult that isn't mature yet. Just like the woman is a young adult that isn't mature yet. Either of them being mature before their age would FIX the problem. But that's not the standard. The standard is that people take their time to grow up. And btw, how many couples do you know that have been together since high school/early college? Because I know 5 very personally and a couple more less personally and they all have the same character male. The females invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:02 AM
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I said it was a bad deal because the way you are describing it often times doesn't happen. they’d both be glad to support each other when they’re stressed or what not They're not supporting each other and not necessarily because the man is evil or something. Young women need to grow out of being too easy-going, too docile, not standing up for themselves enough. While young men typically start off extremely assertive and opinionated...which I'm not calling bad, or saying that they need to grow ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:52 PM
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Exactly, so no more problem anymore. Equalized by not doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:42 PM
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I described why, can you be more specific about which parts you don't understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:41 PM
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They don' because they're not doing that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:39 PM
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Also not the part that makes this a caricature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:38 PM
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Yeah And none of them are a caricature of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:41 PM
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friends who is and who isn't up to his/her standards Yes. Like...you so don't get women, that you have no idea why your story is outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:56 PM
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The first thing is fake. It's definitely not happening to many. It's a caricature of women, women are humans. And a lot of guys don't have that opportunity, but it can realistically happen and you just happen to be the guy it happened too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:51 PM
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Why would the second example be unbelievable? And another sign of not having female friends: you seriously expect me to be able to list all the topics we talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:40 PM
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Dude, just stop. You went too far to be believable. You can't fix this anymore. Hint for new lies: less is more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:17 PM
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Pick better lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:08 PM
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Yeah because you described a friendly conversation? Lol. Like there's several that are extremely unlikely to happen TOGETHER in one situation and it just happens to that they're all together in this lovely situation that's a frequent fantasy on PPD. Like do you seriously belief that if you were to have a female friend and you would give her the hard "stop fucking chad" talk, in the weird scenario that she listens to you (...especially considering your phrasing of the situation...), do you really…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:41 PM
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Spark for me means...I want to talk to you and spend time with you (I don't like a lot of people).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:55 AM
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My experience is the opposite. It's the pre-feminist women that are complaining about their men. Post-feminist women either have great relationships or they leave. But like... I don't even understand how YOU can mentally go "this woman wants to be independent, so she's A TERRIBLE woman!" and still think that you are an outstanding guy??? How??? You are enjoying that the women that want jobs and fulfillment outside of marriage, that you know, have bad luck in relationships and you think you are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:11 AM
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I can't speak for others but me personally ? I would have been pretty low maintenance. That doesn't say anything. Like ppd is FILLED with guys claiming that they would do this and that and I'm not calling them liars, I actually do belief you.... but I don't think you are truly accounting for the effect of the lack of success you have gotten. the scenario mentioned above of the saviour for the chronically unlucky in love women is any better for me either... That's not a dream/desire. That's a fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:42 PM
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the PDP fantasy is finding somone in college who likes you before you have established yourself and supports your dreams while you support hers and together you come to a place where you can enjoy your life with each other. Also to adress this: it's a bad fucking deal for the women and nowadays we're aware of that. I had the most supportive boyfriend out of everyone I knew except 2 people (probably why us 3 had so long relationships), but that really isn't the norm. If you have a guy, you typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:31 PM
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A fantasy is when you are letting your imagination go wild, which is what I was calling the OP. A dream is something you wish for or desire. It can also be a fantasy, but in the case of OP I would call this his nightmare. A desire is something you want. Which again can also be a fantasy or a dream, but it doesn't described the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:11 PM
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I said PPD fantasy, not PPD dream or PPD desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:06 PM
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u\AreOut This is a believable story. This is the type of stories you get to tell if you have female friends. And there are also examples with a good ending, but yours ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:41 PM
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I don't think you have many women friends. explained that one guy she likes has other options and doesn't actually want a serious relationship, that she is already over 30 and should review the things she finds attractive in guys because time flies by. This reads like a PPD male fantasy. There's the desire to be the hero, there's the evil women friends that don't give women THE RIGHT ADVICE!!!!, there's the over30 = check ya time lady, there's the villain Chad, there's the advice that's so fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:37 PM
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The first statement was said by d-bags who just wanted casual sex that women were throwing themselves at that wouldn't commit to them No they weren't. They typically were the married men. Or the men in years long relationships. Maybe nowadays that would be the "casual sex dudes", but I am talking about the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:30 AM
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Yet, we don't have debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:28 AM
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Dude, offcourse I need to read minds if I do that and still want the goal I want. You just don't get it, because if women try to use you, they use you for dinner or money and that's fucking obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:31 AM
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Which I can't think, because I'm not a mind reader
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:11 AM
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It'd be cool if people could just meet somewhere in the middle. This is the constant male desire and it's not do-able. Women are typically intense. All in or all out. And in order to control their impulses, they typically need to go the full 100%. And even if they weren't... the middle isn't based on your and her desire, because you are never working with her desire. You are working with your desire and her watered down desire, because she doesn't think her desire is acceptable. And if you then …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:10 AM
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Yes, that was my response to your answer. I'm just a bit sick of being on PPD and every response being twisting and turning so that there's not one hole in the original beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:38 PM
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