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DrnknParrot/r/MGTOW224/08/20 03:32 AM
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Also, as a woman, you can approach guys like this, and it doesn't come across as aggressive. If you do that to a smaller guy, they often seem to feel emasculated, so it's not worth doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:12 PM
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Bro, if you don't want a partner getting a large % of the joint assets in a split, don't get into an arrangement where they give up career and earning potential. Split the time away from work, child rearing and coooking/cleaning 50:50 Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:40 AM
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The times that I've been "volatile" were when men were "tapering" exactly as you described. Yes, my volatility ended the relationship, but the alternative of just being cool with it, most likely would have resulted in a situation like you had with that guy, who ended up putting the distance of two galaxies between you. Sometimes being volatile means having boundaries and not allowing someone to string you along and waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:44 AM
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It's called 'Walkaway Wife Syndrome".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:38 AM
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Biggest example in my life was when I dated an ex and I had a whole trip planned for her in secret. Things had been rough and monotonous but I couldn't wait to surprise her UNTIL one day out the blue she threw the biggest bitch fit I've seen in on literally the same day I was gonna tell her that I gotten tickets for us to go on a cruise. I was so done that I told her that I'm not gonna take her anywhere and canceled the trip, got a refund, and then dumped her. She literally ruined it for herself…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:04 AM
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Ideally you would both be made to feel like you were the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:17 AM
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If I was a man, I couldn't imagine being interested in a woman who sat around watching netflix all day. Who says women can do that? If it's a dating thing, surely men can call that a dealbreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:34 AM
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Yep, and I think of it like this: after encountering a fuckboi or two, a woman is likely to have a lot less trust in men in general. I can't imagine men stop trusting regular women because a sex worker encourage them to send them money for their content. One is pretending to be something that they're not, the other is being blatantly what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:33 AM
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There's the opportunity cost though. She's wasting time having sex with this guy that she's going nowhere with, while she could have invested that time and energy into a better guy. Time is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:12 AM
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Yeah, the equivalent would be like one of those women who target specific lonely old men, and get them to send them money on the promise of buying airfares to come and see them and live happily ever after etc. If you sign up to a porn site and pay for content, it was transactional from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:48 AM
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Depends on what books/videos they're consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:54 AM
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"Small dick energy", and "short/little man syndrome" both refer to the shitty attitude that the man has, presumably because he's insecure about having a small dick, or being short. They're not actually being given shit for being short or having a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:14 AM
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I never have. I'm guessing they didn't start out like this, rather let themselves go once they were comfortable in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:06 AM
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This is why women (or men) shouldn't accept being 'forever girlfriends'. If you're married, or even in a defacto relationship in many places, you'll be compensated by the divorce settlement in this situation. I think anyone who lets a partner make sacrifices to help them grow and succeed, and then leaves them for an upgrade, is going to be judged poorly by most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:21 AM
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I actually wasn't specifically referring to African tribal law. I was thinking more of Abrahamic tribes. The point was, if women were so quick to abandon their own culture and tribes, it might not have been as good for them as you seem to think it was. People, men or women, don't flippantly discard things or people that are valuable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:39 AM
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I agree, it is tiring! It's been going on for a reallly long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:30 AM
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I think he just means submissive. He equates femininity with submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:28 AM
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These aren't all true though. No one is calling a man low value for being shy or short. They're just less likely to stand out and get noticed is all. Also, I've literally never heard another woman ridicule a man for being sexually inexperienced. A. who would even know, and B. experience doesn't necessarily make someone better in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:50 AM
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Yep, there are plenty of men who would be happy for the structural oppression of women to remain concealed, rather than brought to light and studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:16 AM
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Perhaps they knew that the men of their own tribe would subjugate them anyway. Why wouldn't they align themselves with the oppressor who can provide more resources, if they will be oppressed either way? Most tribal laws were designed to keep the peace between men. For example, it might be illegal to rape another man's wife, but not illegal to rape a single woman. Women's welfare was sacrificed for the benefit of the tribe (i.e. men), so why the fuck would they have any sense of loyalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:13 AM
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But why is it bad for a man to be short? And why is it fine, or even positive for a woman to be short? One could deduce that it's bad for a man to be short because that makes him more like a woman. And that it's good for a woman to be short, as it makes her able to be physically dominated by, or require the protection of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:50 AM
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This just got me thinking. Maybe the reason why I see average guys getting sex regularly, is because these are the type of men I surround myself with. The type of men who clearly don't actually like women are repulsive to me, and I basically have nothing to do with them, so would have no idea whether they have success with women or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:14 AM
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Exactly. Most of my friends are around 5'9-5'10, and most men are taller than that. It's an entirely normal caucasian female height. The problem with reddit is that no one can see anyone else's reality, and therefore what is "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:49 AM
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Everyone is having sex with Chad. He barely has time to sleep, let alone work a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:30 AM
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They're average for their environment. How is it relevant that they're more attractive than some pygmy from the mountains of New Guinea? Unless you're going to provide pictures of what you consider average, all of these arguments are pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:10 AM
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Yes, we can get sex easier, but the sex we get casually, is more often than not TERRIBLE! Guys who aren't genuinely interested in us dgaf if we enjoy ourselves and orgasm or not, whereas, guys will orgasm most of the time in casual sex. You're comparing apples and oranges. It's irrelevant that we can get as much sex as we want, if that sex is shit. How hard is this to grasp?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:03 AM
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I was actually just referring to the quality of the sex, not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:39 AM
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If you're getting many, many rejections, then you're making bad bets. Stick to asking out women who've already shown interest in you, rather than spraying shots around the room, if you don't want to be regularly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:38 AM
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100%. I just can't with the guys here who can't see that the sea of sex we're offered isn't worth shit, when we're unlikely to even orgasm from the terrible jackhammering (enthusiastic sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:03 AM
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Seriously! I'm actually impressed that the poster was able to provide a photo of the most average looking group of guys I could think of. Like they're all literally between a 4 and 6. If he thinks they're above average, I'm intrigued to see what he considers average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:23 AM
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Any man who can get casual sex is above average by definition. Well, if your definition of average man is one who can't get casual sex, then you've answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:10 AM
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Having some dude who doesn't actually like you, using you to masterbate in, generally isn't satisfying sex, so most women wouldn't count this as a viable option. That's like offering someone rotten food, and then telling them they have plenty of options, and to stop complaining about being hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:51 AM
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But it sounds like you hate women....I don't think they'd be having a perfectly happy life with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:00 AM
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Sounds like both you and women would be better off without each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:42 AM
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Well, you might want to see if you can figure out the issues that are leading to the lack of sex first, but yeah, I don't think I'd hang around too long in a sexless relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:42 AM
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Hate to break it to you buddy, but your looks are going to be just as diminished in your 40s.....You might find once you get there, that you're perfectly capable of finding some of your peers attractive. Most people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:35 AM
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I'd say sex is a measure of health of a relationship, rather than something that should be expected by either party.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:15 AM
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I feel like the people worrying about this must be either cold approaching, or being cold approached. If you've spent even 10 minutes talking to someone before going on a date with them, you're already going to have a good idea if they're worth the time or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:08 AM
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Sounds like you've never met a dutch woman....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:05 AM
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Is it the leveraging of power that really bothers you, or is it the chance of taking an ego or status hit by crossing paths with another man who has devalued the thing that you value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:34 AM
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If you yourself are chaste, it's perfectly acceptable to not want to date someone who is promiscuous. But if you're using someone for sex, that would make you also promiscuous, so if that's your excuse to keep the relationship casual then you're a hypocrite, and that's not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:25 AM
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We would only call you a hypocrite if you're either a "slut" yourself, or the only reason you're not is a lack of opportunity, not a lack of will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:11 AM
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I'd definitely get tired of having to regularly remind someone, and if I were in a relationship with them, it would absolutely impact on my sexual attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:03 AM
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Haha, you're right, plenty of people in there do sound like dickheads. But I still feel like the sub is serving an important purpose for a lot of women that have been raised to have non-existant boundaries. A lot of them are still in the anger phase, realizing what they've been putting up with is actually appalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:00 AM
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Nobody cares if you only want to date virgins. But if you're not a virgin yourself, the virgins you want to date are probably going to think you're an entitled hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:51 AM
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No, it only reduces rape and violence against wealthier women, and shifts it onto the poorer women working in prostitution. Literally using them as human shields.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:46 AM
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To me it would be the same thing. Through his actions he has indicated that he neither respects me, nor cares about my feelings. It wouldn't matter who he cheated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:32 AM
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I think this is actually what's causing a lot of men frustration these days. In their mind, like the commenter above, they're happy to date a woman who makes half their income, as long as they're more attractive. There are a lot fewer women now however, who are interested in doing the inverse. We, for the most part want men who are equally attractive, and only expect them to make around the same as us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:33 AM
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FDS is really just about getting women to exercise boundaries. If in exercising these boundaries, they find no man interested in them, then that's a pretty clear signal that they need to level up to get what they want. But they're not going to figure that out, without first exercising the boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:20 AM
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She shouldn't have to tell him to take out the trash if it's his job. Him leaving it until she needs to tell him has just created more work for her. Would you accept a housemate who needed to be constantly reminded to do their chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:17 AM
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I couldn't care less if a man has spent money on another woman in the past. Hiwever, if he's had sex with a prostitute, it indicates that he believes womens' bodies should be able to be purchased, and that makes him a terrible person in my eyes, and would be a complete dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:07 AM
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All of this assumes that that young women actually want to date older men, which in my experience of once being a young woman, and knowing many other young women, just isn't true in the majority of cases. Yes, there will be some who are willing, but they are definitely in the minority, and the guy is going to need to have his wits about him to weed out the gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:43 PM
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This was my exact experience. I probably only get 5% of the male attention that I got in my early to mid-20s now, but the 95% that I've lost was the trash attention. Attention from creepy older men, attention from guys who were clearly using a scattergun approach on as many women as possible. Attention from men who know nothing about me other than looks. Attention from men who were clearly lifestyle incompatible. The amount of actual quality attention hasn't changed at all now that I'm 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:57 PM
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Way to mansplain to women what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:48 PM
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We attract the literal same men. It's just that a lot of these men are now balding, and have dad bods and kids from previous relationships. So if your physical standards remain the same, it can seem like a desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:44 PM
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Not sure I buy this. In my experience, the men who simp and orbit aren't in my league. The simping/orbiting just makes them so easy and pleasant to be around that I tolerate them being there. Nothing about their attention inflates my ego and makes me hypergamous. I'm still waiting around for the guy I actually want, same as if the simp/orbiter wasn't there. It would be attention from Chad that would inflate my ego. If anything, women allowing simps and orbiters to hang around is inflating the eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:55 AM
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Exactly! Simping is just landing a woman that would be out of your league if you actually exercised boundaries. A woman dating a simp isn't even really taken off the market, as she'll happily ditch the simp the moment a man she actually wants becomes an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:42 AM
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I don't think women actively seek simps out. It's more likely that the simp is basically throwing himself (and his validation, energy, gifts etc) at her, and she thinks "why not, may as well kill a bit of time until the guy I actually like comes along". Same as Chad does with less attractive women with no boundaries. No one wants to grow old with a simp, that would be tediously annoying being around someone with so little self-respect for that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:30 AM
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Having boundaries, i.e. not being a simp or a pickme, is for your own benefit, not that of the dating market as a whole. If all men were to suddenly stop simping, the women who were dating them, or allowing them to orbit, aren't suddenly going to step up and put in the effort to become perfect wifey material. They're just going to stay single until the guy they feel is worth making the extra effort for comes along. Men do the same thing. If no pickmes were willing to be forever girlfriends, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:26 PM
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These 'simps' are obviously getting enough out of it to make it worth their while though. Otherwise they wouldn't be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:06 PM
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The key to not getting frustrated (as either a man or woman) is in realising that not everyone out there in the dating market is genuinely an option. There are some women who don't want a real relationship, they just want attention. There are some men who don't want a real relationship, they just want an ego boost and sex. These people are generally pretty easy to spot, so just ignore them like they don't exist, and focus on the people who are genuinely looking for a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:41 PM
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As a society, we've decided that we should follow the law and pay taxes, or we're banished from society. Women have never agreed that we should find a partner. In the past, some men have created a system in which women were basically forced to find a partner, but women were never consulted on, or agreed to that system. When women decide that they would rather leave that society than be forced to accept a partner that they don't want, men won't leave them the fuck alone. Men don't get to decide a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:34 AM
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Unless you believe that I owe you companionship, a relationship & sex, I am not punishing you by not giving that to you. The situation is neutral. If I were to go out of my way to destroy a relationship that you had with someone else, that could be considered punishment. If you honestly believe that women owe you those things, then they would be wise to avoid you, and all men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:58 AM
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This sounds like something straight out of the 1700's. Are you a 300 year old vampire?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:50 AM
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Women in Korea choosing to raise children single-handedly, says a lot more about Korean men and the value they bring to a relationship TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:35 AM
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When women peacefully opt out of a patriarchal system that oppresses them, they get literally rounded up and burnt at the stake as a lesson to other women. And you complain about women's lack of empathy for men. Fucking lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:26 AM
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You're much more likely to be financially insecure later in life due to a failed marriage than from being single all of your life. Male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:20 AM
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Society isn't taking care of her. Current western society just isn't blatantly forcing her to be dependent on anyone anymore. It's not a luxury, it's a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:16 AM
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I don't get the cat lady - boxed wine insult. If you don't have kids to take care of, you have ample money for good wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:14 AM
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Why do you even care about human fertility rates? Are you worried that another species is going to knock us off the podium? The earth would be so much better off with fewer humans. Those humans remaining would have a higher quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:17 AM
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Yep, other than the no alcohol/drugs/tobacco bit, this is pretty much every guy I've ever dated. They're not that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:26 AM
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If you believe the feminine = submissive/subordinate, then you are the type of man that FDS is helping women to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:07 AM
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The problem with the Corolla analogy is that it assumes that they need a car at all. If they live somewhere with good public transport, a car is just a luxury, and they might only find it worthwhile paying for a parking space for a Ferrari, not a Corolla.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:12 AM
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These are perfectly fair assumptions in the absence of any further information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:45 AM
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Why are you telling people? You could just keep that to yourself, and no one will be any the wiser. I guarantee that there are plenty of other people doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:19 AM
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Are you sure it's a lack of experience that's the problem? You can just lie about experience. How would anyone know? If you've got a job, you don't need a job, therefore you will be relaxed and completely un-needy around a potential employer. If you need a job, even if you've had plenty in the past, you'll still be nervous. I imagine that's similar with relationships. Additionally, much like women relax around gay men, women also are a lot more open and relaxed around men in relationships, as in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:54 AM
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Honestly, you might be better off taking a break from dating for awhile. It would probably help to at least develop a plan for how you're going to get your life to where you want it. Knowing that you're on track to achieve your goals, even if they're still a long way off, might relieve you of the insecurity. Dating in your current state of mind sounds anxiety inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:48 AM
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We definitely don't assume that you're a top 10% guy, but we do assume you're going after your looks match. And we assume that you're operating in a place with approx 1:1 ratio of men to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:01 AM
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Jesus Christ. Please, for your own sake, work on your self-esteem before shacking up with any man, or you will most likely make some terrible choices. You know how someone is able to cheat on their spouse? Because they don't like or respect them enough to bother not cheating on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:54 AM
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We live in an era of washing machines, thermomixes and robot vacuums. The person who stays at home is really only doing a full-time job while the kids are young. That's maybe 15 years all up, if you stretch it out over a few kids. What are you doing for the other 50 years? The breadwinner in this case is definitely not getting a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:47 AM
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That said though, I could understand someone who had taken the time and therapy to work through their issues, not wanting to date someone else who was still in the process of dealing with their own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:14 AM
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I'd consider it a good thing, as long as it wasn't anything too serious. Most people could do with some therapy, few people actually get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:12 AM
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I'm not sure whether to find these beliefs hilariously offensive, or intriguing. As a woman, I experience the exact opposite. Everywhere I go, I see women going out either alone, or in groups, socializing and experiencing new things. I have always assumed that single men must just stay at home. Now granted, when I was younger, say, mid to late 20's, I would see plenty of men in nightclubs etc. But once these environments tip into sausagefest territory, women avoid them, and find other places wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:52 PM
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He's asking how we want to be pursued. i.e. our desires. We don't like being hit on by guys we're not interested in, where and how won't make a difference. If you actually care about not making women uncomfortable that is, which you clearly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:14 AM
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Some of these would definitely be seen as manipulative/creepy. Men who get 'mail order brides' are generally looked down upon, because they're using financial disparity to get a woman who might otherwise not be interested. Imagine an able bodied person who specifically chose to marry a disabled person who couldn't drive, and then bought a home in an area that was miles from nowhere, forcing them to be completely dependent on them. There are lots of scenarios that would be 'creepy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:02 AM
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For me, somewhere like the grocery store, where I would have to make a snap decision about a stranger, will most likely have me on guard, which will make me less likely to accept, unless the guy is particularly hot. So grocery store is probably fine for Chad, but not good odds for average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:50 AM
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There's a difference between getting to know someone as basically a friendly acquaintance before asking them out (good), vs weaseling your way into their inner circle in order to try and win them over (bad). The second is deceitful and shows a serious lack of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:32 AM
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Honestly, any of the places you've mentioned would be fine with me. The key is to minimize the likelihood that the attention would be unwanted. The way to do this: Stick to your league. Looks, style, SES etc. Don't take a scattergun/numbers approach. Stick to women that you have more in common with than most men would. Read body language both before approaching, and at all stages of the interaction, and abort if it's getting negative, or even just not particularly positive. If you do all of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:13 AM
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As a generalisation, women put more effort into maximizing their looks. This is more pronounced in some cultures than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:21 PM
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I'd say there are just fewer women active on the apps at any given time. I know for me, I get burnt out after awhile and deactivate it. I'd say I only spend 20% of the time that I'm single active on an app. The rest of the time I stick to meeting people in the real world / take a break from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:56 AM
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True. I actually think OLD provides the most benefit to people in their 30's and 40's. The age when you rarely just meet eligible single people just going about your life. It's a smorgasbord online!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:55 AM
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Don't you know, a desire to not be completely dependent on, and at the mercy of men makes us hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:08 AM
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This is a pretty commonly held belief. It's the reason why older men rush to remarry, while older women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:57 AM
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I was with you until the Feminism is the political expression of Borderline) part. Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:47 AM
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Dude, seriously? Go and look up median and average, and then come back and review your remedial math comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:17 AM
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But if they have to "settle" anyway, why not spend 10 years banging Chad first?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:33 AM
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I'm betting your standards are actually quite reasonable. A large proportion of the 37 yr old men online would also be divorced with kids, so that's not even a real negative. All around me, I see women dating their equals. The dudes who think they're hard done by are delusional, and have internalised the old norm of getting a woman with zero effort, due to women being basically forced to depend on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:32 PM
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If these guys don't have anything to offer that women value, why do you feel that they're entitled to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:27 PM
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If that's true, it would make sense for them to find the very best man they can in that brief period of time that they have options...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:09 PM
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If women have decided that dying alone is preferable to being with the bottom 80% of men, then men need to start bringing more to the table if they want a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:31 AM
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Yeah, this actually makes it sound as though men just want someone to fill a role, and don't actually care who it is. Not going to make women want to be with you, and not really something to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:27 AM
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Women are able to be this picky because they are swamped with male interest. We have to filter it all somehow. No different to when jobs are tight and employers start expecting everyone to have degrees for basic jobs. They're just trying to narrow down hundreds of applications without having to read each one. I'm sure many (most?) women would date the intelligent, funny, kind carpenter, as long as he's attractive, if they met him in person. He may get filtered out online though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:19 AM
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Yeah, but they need to impose the terms first, in order to see what that results in. Once they do, I'd bet many would take themselves out of the dating game for awhile (like monk mode I guess), until they felt like they could realistically get the men they wanted. But yeah, probably not the best idea to date anyone who was in the early days of either TRP or FDS. Leave them to figure out how they need to improve themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:21 AM
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TRP and FDS both aim to achieve the same thing (happy relationship with someone you're attracted to), but they come at it from different angles, based around the conditions that each group is experiencing. TRP takes a scarcity approach, as these men generally aren't really getting attention from women at all. FDS takes an abundance approach, as these women are getting attention, but not the type they want, or from the type of men they want it from. An analogy: two people want to build a good war…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:11 AM
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Shower, do makeup, hair, get dressed, travel there. Psych yourself up to talk to a stranger for an hour +. Lot of work for like $40 or something. Lower socio-economic comment referred to perhaps getting a meal that is way more expensive than they could ever afford themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:29 AM
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The problem is that many guys who only want "to ejaculate in her mouth", pretend to want to date them. FDS helps women screen those men out. And if the only attention she's getting is from those types of men, she'll soon realise that, when they're all deterred and she has no options. At that stage, she can decide to try and level up to attract better men, or maybe decide that she's content being single. But either way, life is always better without selfish or lazy men involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:12 AM
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I'm with lybid8 on this one. I really can't imagine many women going to the effort of a date, just for free food. I'd say the reality is more like they are unsure if they like the guy or not, but justify the effort of going on the date with him by telling themselves "at least I'll get a free meal if nothing else". A lot of dates with guys that didn't work out for them = lots of free meals. Unless some guys are dating well below their socio-economic level, in which case maybe the meal is enticing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:55 AM
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These guys are salty that young women are able to learn from older women's experience and mistakes. They'd prefer that you were ignorant and able to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:03 AM
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The "asshole" is definitely preferable, because at least he's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:42 AM
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If it's just casual sex, someone being too into me is going to be a turnoff. I don't want to be seen as a bitch who used and discarded a really nice guy who was really into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:40 AM
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I missed the first part of my comment, so included it in the next comment. But in response to your comments: Women's standards are entirely reasonable if they're getting dates. When you're in college say, most people are similar enough that you have a very wide dating pool. As you age, people branch out and become quite different to each other in many ways, which creates a whole lot of new deal breakers that just wouldn't have been relevant when younger. For example, I don't want to date guys wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:18 AM
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Whoops, deleted the first part of the comment. Should have read: The reason we go for tall built attractive men when we're in our 20's, is because they are in abundance. By the time these guys are in their early 30's, a lot of them are getting overweight, balding, and generally ageing poorly, so if we kept the same physical standards, we'd all be competing for a very small pool of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:03 AM
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I'm not talking about being a blatant asshole to women. Nobody wants to sleep with someone like that. More along the lines of being a bit cocky and arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:58 AM
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The hard thing about meeting someone online, vs meeting through friends, work/school, or some other activity, is that with OLD, we don't get much of an opportunity to just observe someone without them basically putting on an act for us. If someone at work asked me out, I might have already known them or even just known of them, for a year. This would have given me ample opportunity to observe them in many situations, decide whether they're someone I find attractive or not. If I agree to go on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:07 AM
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Personally, if I were looking for casual sex, I choose either someone who I knew I'd never have to see again for whatever reason (they're here on vacation or something), or someone who is a bit of an asshole, because I wouldn't feel bad about ghosting them after, cause I wouldn't care about the feelings of an asshole. I'd feel guilty doing that to someone nice. Maybe that's what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:26 AM
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poorly , so if we kept the same physical standards, we'd all be competing for a very small pool of men. I hate to break it to you, but a lot of the average looking, boring, nice guys that you see women with in their 30's, were fun party guys in their 20's. Most people end up averagely boring, with adequate careers by their 30's whether they enjoyed themselves in their 20's or not. 'Nice guys' don't suddenly become popular, they just become indifferentiable from everyone else. Except for the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:17 AM
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Exactly. You can be an introvert and go to raves and do adventure sports. Not all introverts are hiding at home all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:28 AM
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This is literally the key to successful dating. Wasting minimal time by identifying the red flags or deal breakers early, and moving on to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:07 AM
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Having thought about it a bit more, I could see a situation where I might be wary of someone who'd slept with a couple of my friends, assuming they already knew me too. But that would be because I'd be wondering why they went for the others before me, and if I was just a fallback or something. So I guess the question is, would it be an issue if they'd slept with a bunch of people prior to meeting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:21 AM
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Lol, how do you not see the hypocrisy in judging someone else for the same thing you're doing? If you were someone who had chosen not to have sex until marriage (by choice, not by lack of opportunity), then it would be reasonable to have a preference (i.e. judge) for not dating people who were having a lot of casual sex. But that doesn't sound like what you are. You're free to be a hypocrite, and women are free to call you out on it and avoid you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:02 AM
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Sex and passion is what motivates most people to put in the effort that commitment and communication require. If someone was willing to make the effort of commitment and communication, but didn't feel passion for me, I'd feel like I was either being used for something, or that I was completely interchangeable. The exact thing a lot of men on here seem to fear actually. You need both for a successful relationship. It's the Anna Karenina Principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:49 AM
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If you would fuck someone, but not date them because they're "the girl to invite out so one of the bros can hopefully get his dick wet", you're saying that they're not worthy of a relationship because of their promiscuity. The same promiscuity that you and "your bros" seem to have. That's hypocritical slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:22 AM
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I think it's more that the moment they realise they wouldn't have the other person's child, they would end it. There are unfortunately some shitty people out there who know they wouldn't commit to someone long term, but will date them anyway out of convenience and laziness, with basically no regard for the other person's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:09 AM
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If she made it clear that she wanted to get married, and he told her that he would never marry her, that would be her fault for hanging around after that. If he lies, saying it's something that he wants, but indefinitely delays, he's a piece of shit. It would be no different than an employer saying you're going to get promoted in order to keep you around, but never doing it. Like yeah, eventually you're going to leave that job out of frustration, but you would have left a lot sooner if they hadn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 05:21 AM
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Prioritize in what way? I don't really understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:56 AM
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I don't date men who clearly prioritise big boobs, youth etc, so I don't feel threatened by the idea or fact that they've slept with others with these attributes. If I was someone who spent a lot of time and money on trying to loo young, getting plastic surgery etc, then yeah, I guess it might bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:23 PM
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I wouldn't consider yours particularly high. I think pretty much everyone I know around your age would have at least 15-20, unless they've been in a long term relationship since they were young. That said, it's not a conversation that I recall having with anyone ever, so this is just a guess. At your age, I guess I would consider high to be around 100. That would indicate that casual sex is something that someone was actively seeking out and prioritising in their life. Even then, I would be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:13 PM
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Who the hell is globally dating? I set my OLD limit to 5km.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:39 AM
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Women up to 10 years younger I guess. Attractive women, as these guys are also attractive and look very good for their age. They're basically getting their looks matches, which compared to when they were younger and struggling, I'd consider "killing it". They are definitely in the minority though, so I'd still agree that it's a fantasy. I haven't seen either of them date women more than about 10 years younger, but I'm not sure that they would even be interested in that. I think that's more of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:24 PM
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I'd say that most have at one time or another if they're single. It certainly wouldn't be happening every time they go away though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:54 AM
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I know one or two men who fit the fantasy of killing it in their 40's. They struggled when they were younger because they looked very boyish/effeminate, but these same genes meant that they aged exceptionally well compared to 98% of their peers. So the real reason they do well is that their competition basically fell by the wayside. Unfortunately for most men here, they are much more likely to fall within that 98% whose looks drop off as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:20 AM
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Aren't you worried that by setting the bar low, that you might burn a lot of bridges before you even get a foot in the door? Or is the plan to land a woman with very low standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:32 AM
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I think increased confidence will help you make friends, be better received by most people in general, and to pull your looks match. It's not going to make a 3 suddenly able to get 7s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:37 AM
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Yep, almost everyone who I remember being a good athlete in school now has an adequately successful professional career. The fantasy of washed out chads and staceys is exactly that, a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:51 AM
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Men do literally the same thing. So many guys I knew dated/fucked attractive women when they were younger, but once they decided to settle down, they went for the less attractive woman who would make a more self-sacrificing little wifey. The sexes really aren't that different. People pursue partners based around what their priorities and values are at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:33 AM
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This is one of the best comments I've ever seen on here!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:16 AM
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But is he going to be able to pull the attractive young women if he doesn't display those traits? Trying and failing might make him even more bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:00 AM
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Do you actually hear women describing guys as marriage material in real life? When I was 19, I would never have said that, and I don't recall any of my friends using it to describe anyone either. I feel like that would be a term that people over 30 would use, and it would definitely be a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:01 AM
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If they're cheating on their spouse they're a Low Value Man. Doesn't matter how attractive or wealthy etc they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:09 AM
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They don't view women as humans. They view them as objects that they are entitled to, and when they don't automatically get what they think they're entitled to, they throw a tantrum (or shoot up a campus).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:55 AM
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You do realise that the opposite of husband material isn't fuckboy don't you? The opposite of husband material is someone that is unwanted for both sex and companionship/relationship - the kind of person that spends their time postulating about the nature of women on the internet. Just take the damn compliment!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:36 PM
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Something can be your first choice, while still acknowledging that it is a compromise in some way. If I could only choose one beverage for the rest of my life, I'm going to choose water. Not because I think water is the most exciting, but because when I weigh up all of the pros and cons, water is the superior life choice for me, and I'm sure that I would have no regrets in my choice. If I chose a boozy sugary cocktail, I know that my life would go downhill rapidly, despite how enjoyable it might…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:33 AM
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2012 was a while ago, are you sure you haven't just aged out of having a lot of attractive single people available? That definitely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:02 AM
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Because for every 1 wanted serendipitous encounter, she probably has to put up with 50 unwanted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:57 AM
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Winners: Introverts Non-drinkers/partiers People over the age of 30 - this is about the time that most people are in relationships or busy with work, so to be able to gather all of the single people in one place is priceless People who take good photos and have novel looking lives - they stand out against a sea of sameness 'niche' people - if you're living somewhere where you maybe don't fit into the common mold, from an interests/hobbies perspective, OLD can help you find similar people that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:35 AM
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I think for a man to be considered a status symbol, he'd have to be both hot and rich, otherwise you're compromising in one regard, which doesn't indicate status. Alternatively, if you're a wealthy sugar mama, having a young hot guy that you financially support could be a status symbol, although this would obviously be seen as distasteful by many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:33 AM
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I feel like there's a short window around the mid 20's that this works. This is the point where single and coupled people are still actively socialising together, because the coupled people have yet to move out to the suburbs and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:50 AM
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Damn!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:16 AM
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I've come to the conclusion from reading the responses to this post, that the best option is to tell every guy you date that you've had fast sex before, and then make them wait a couple of weeks. That should successfully weed out all of the salty little incels like the ones in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:57 PM
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Yes, this is considered good. If someone was FWB material and not husband materiel, there are probably some pretty fundamental things wrong with them. Someone could have a drug/alcohol/gambling addiction and still be FWB material. They could live in their parents basement and have no car and be FWB material. They could have no ambition and no prospects in life, and still be FWB material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:40 AM
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I find that I need to have observed a man, comfortable and confident in his element, for a certain amount of time before I become attracted to him. If a man is too introverted, I may never rack up enough observation time to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:04 AM
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Exactly. Women were never fine with it, they just couldn't leave because they would end up in poverty. A lot of younger men have just failed to align with the higher standards expected by women who have the option to go it alone. Many men now have to be better than their fathers were, and they either have no roadmap, or just stubbornly refuse to follow it due to ingrained entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:22 AM
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Found the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:12 AM
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The world is overpopulated and on the brink of environmental collapse. Most people should avoid breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:04 AM
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This is definitely a problem, and I'm not sure what the solution is, maybe schools need to teach more interpersonal soft skills. What I can tell you though, as a woman, is if I ever get to the point of giving someone a "clear and firm "no"", I am already quite uncomfortable, and will have given, in my opinion, countless indications that I'm not interested. You should be gauging whether to push forward or not, well before it gets to that point, because at that point, you're possibly already makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:02 AM
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I think it's wrong to assume that the men and women of a particular place are always equal. For instance, if you're in a military garrison town, the average man may be better looking, or at least fitter. In other places, due to demographics, women may be on average better. People are commenting based off of what they see around them, which might be different to what someone else sees somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 04:26 AM
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Honestly, most people can sense whether their attention would be well received or not by another person. This is obviously something you struggle with, because it seems like you're looking for a rule book. I'll attempt to provide you with some guidelines that may help. Before flirting with someone, ask yourself these questions: Are we generally in the same league? Looks, age, style, socio-economic class. I'd wager that the people who are getting harsh or aggressive rejections are trying to devia…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 04:08 AM
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Sugar relationships benefit both parties, the sugar baby gets material things they don't have to work for, the sugar daddy gets a relationship and sex on their terms, without having to make the normal compromises one would have to make. Neither are victims here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:39 AM
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I think this has some definite merit. What I've noticed in my country as well, is that due to an increasing population, young adults often can't afford to live and buy property in the areas they grew up, so end up moving away from their families, often to different cities. This leaves them without a strong community that would have helped the less social of them to meet potential partners organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:32 AM
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Dude, this is a classic case of men (or just you in this case) only acknowledging attractive women as women. Do women you're not attracted to hold power over you? Old/overweight/ugly women? I'd say not. And guess what! Men that women are attracted to hold power over them too! Who would have thought, we all end up doing or sacrificing more for the chance at securing someone we're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:34 PM
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Brad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:20 AM
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Are girls still brought up to see a man as a plan? I'm bordering on middle age, and this would have been seen as archaic when I was growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:09 PM
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I doubt it causes desensitivity. More likely it results in a lack of patience. Like, if you can can orgasm in 1 minute from a vibrator, you might not have the patience to wait for 5 or 10 minutes for a hand or tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:41 AM
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78% of all transsexual porn is searched for by women 'Women' women, or 'girl dick' women? I find this exceptionally hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:10 AM
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Apples and oranges. A fair comparison would be dildos and pocket pussies. Porn is someone getting aroused often by the the degradation of the woman. I couldn't care less what a guy rubs his dick on, or sticks up his ass. If he's getting aroused by images of a woman getting jizzed all over her face or worse, then he's a grub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:43 AM
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Adults have alcohol to help them get past this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 06:08 AM
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If dating, both casual and for relationships is harder for men, and it's because as many on here claim, that women only chase the top men, while most men would be happy with an equal or even lower value woman, that implies that women value sex/relationships with men less than men value them with women. Have you stopped to think about why this might be? Casual sex, what % of time do men orgasm vs women? Relationships, how does the household labour end up being split in most heterosexual relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:39 AM
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That makes sense, especially if a woman had supported a man in building his career at the expense of her own. Also I guess if she felt like she had exerted effort in "house training" him with regard to chores etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:49 AM
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Attention and validation can be addictive for anyone. But like a drug, once you're off it for awhile, you don't miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:24 PM
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If I knew upfront how they'd all be, I'd go for average guy. It wouldn't matter how good ugly guy was, as I'd still need to be aroused. Bit hey, I'm sure there's be ugly women who's go for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:19 PM
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Yeah, I think it's definitely a class thing for most. I think the not born rich attractive ones are accepted in the community because they're attractive and fun. The danger for them is not realising that the people around them all have safety nets, and therefore not stopping to consider whether they are truly in a position to choose that lifestyle over a safe, stable career. There are plenty of attractive homeless people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:45 AM
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Women love good sex. Unfortunately, a lot of sex isn't very good from a woman's perspective, especially with casual partners. We lose interest if we don't think it's going to be worth our while. I hypothesize that if men ensured that every woman they slept with orgasmed, women as a group would be just as keen as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:51 AM
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I think you overestimate how much women care about male validation. I mean, we'll take it if it's being thrown around, but when the tap gets turned off, we're perfectly fine without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:46 AM
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Probably the exact same things I'm doing now - work, hobbies, friends, socialising.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:35 AM
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You can't group all men or women under their gender umbrella. Whilst there are some pretty hypocritical people, most women who want an equal relationship aren't expecting men to pay for everything, and most men who want to marry a virgin aren't fucking their way through every woman in town.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:57 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but women don't go to college to impress men....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:26 AM
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Bingo. This dude wants a girl (cause I'm guessing that he is more than 4 years out of high school, but that's who he's comparing), who has limited other options, so will be financially dependent on him. Speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:20 AM
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I care about class, but it has nothing to do with flaunting anything. I want my partner to fit into my life comfortably. I want him to get along with my friends and family, and to be comfortable and confident around my work colleagues. This is for his sake as well as mine. I'd bet most women are the same (and men for that matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:05 AM
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Where did you get the idea I'm looking down on anyone? Have you waited tables before? I have. It's physically and emotionally exhausting. Mostly because it's stressful without actually being important. I don't look down on wait staff, but I know I wouldn't be choosing to do it long-term. In your scenario, she'd been waitressing for 4 years, and nothing you said indicated that this was about to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:27 AM
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This is where I think so many guys go wrong. They try to compete for too broad a range of women, but they're basically just not attractive enough to get away with being bland. They need to explore their niche, and go for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:41 PM
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2%. Sounds about right for the entire population. This is a good reminder of the importance of choosing a place to live that is popular with your desired demographic if you want to increase your odds. Looking around me, I feel like my odds are significantly higher than the average thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:18 PM
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I know someone who is an exceptional waitress, as you said, the ability to make others' experiences pleasant with no regards to her own feelings. She's actually kind of a shitty person once you really get to know her though. The kind of person who can subordinate themself to entitled idiots all day every day is usually a People Pleaser. And people pleasing is actually a type of manipulation, which when it fails to work, can turn passive aggressive at best, and vindictive at worst. Most people wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:10 PM
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Sounds like you want someone with a huge capacity for tolerating bullshit....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 08:01 PM
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The longer you wait, trying to find someone less experienced, the more experience everyone except you is gaining, and the harder it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 12:11 AM
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What would be your advice to men who realise they're going to go bald? Most of the ones I knew settled down real quick, before it got too bad, like they were playing a game of musical chairs, lol. Can't blame them, seemed like a smart move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:28 AM
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No, because you said they're the same make and model, so you can safely assume they'll age similarly. Two people of different ages are not the same make and model, they have different genetic make-up. It would be like this: there are two models of car in existence, one that has a proven record of making it to 400K miles (A) which is quite rare, and one that has a proven record of dying at about 70K miles (B) which is very common. You have to choose between the two cars you listed above, but you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:19 AM
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One of the points in her OP was that basically most people in their 20's look good. If the 20+ yr old and the 30+ yr old both look good, from a looks perspective, the 30+ yr old is a safer bet, because if they're still looking good in their 30's, they're probably going to stay looking good, relative to their peers. The 20+ yr old could go go downhill and end up changing completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:49 AM
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She's not saying women's financial independence is important to men. She's saying that if a woman has it, she's not going to settle for a guy with nothing to offer beyond financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:41 AM
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Partially agree. People in their 20's are chosen on potential, while people in their 30's are chosen on proven record. From a personality/goals etc perspective, choosing in your/their 30's is likely to land you a more suitable partner. From a looks perspective, yep, a few people age well, and a lot don't. Most people in their 20's look decent, but by early 30's you can generally see how someone is going to continue to age. What you've ignored though, is how you yourself are going to age. Like ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:12 AM
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My advice would be that if you want kids, prioritise study and then establishing a career in your early to mid 20's (take a gap year and travel first if you can afford it). By mid to late 20's, establish your own business and use the next 5 years to get it to a point that you can take on employees, and reduce your own hours, for when you start having kids. You can start looking for a serious partner at any time, but since people tend to change so much between 18-30, the most fruitful time to fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:12 AM
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OnLine Dating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:18 AM
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No longer that age, but when I was, it wouldn't have been a dealbreaker, but it would have been a negative that would have required strengths in other areas to compensate. But that said, when you meet the right person, a lot of "requirements" go out the window. It might make it a bit harder OLD, if that's what you're doing, but I'd just put extra effort into finding photos where your facial features are flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:10 AM
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Why should guys who aren't attractive enough get casual sex, or expect to though? All it is is an ego boost. It's not a physical need, as you could achieve the same thong with your hand. It's not an emotional thing, as that would be better served by a relationship. It's merely an ego boost, no different to being naturally athletic and wining at sport etc. Not something that warrants deceiving others in order to get. People who lie to get sex are worse than sleazy con artists. At least the con ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:54 PM
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The problem with that "me first" kind of attitude, is that it has far reaching effects. When enough men lie about what they want, that women think there's a decent chance that they will encounter this type of man, women's behaviour as a group will also change. Even fewer women will give men the benefit of the doubt, and will start to vet even harder, expecting much more investment (time, money) from men before they sleep with them. So yeah, you might get laid a few times early on, but later on, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:13 PM
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The mean part of me kind of wants this to happen. I'd recommend against it though. As a woman, there is significant pressure to do things such as wear makeup, dye hair, shave legs etc. Like, you don't have to do it, but if everyone else is wearing makeup and you aren't, you just look rough in comparison. I imagine you like the idea of getting a height boost by wearing them, but the reality might be that you have to wear them if you don't want to look abnormally short.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:43 AM
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As a woman, this is true for me. Although I would be ok with a guy slightly shorter than me. Also, out in the real world, I see couples where the guy is shorter than 6' all of the time. I see couples where the guy is shorter than the girl daily. While plenty of women might like tall guys, for the most part, we don't expect them. So many other traits are more important. That doesn't mean that the 5'3 guys aren't still struggling though...there is a limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:27 AM
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It doesn't even need to be about leagues though. A guy will sleep with a woman he know he has no future with due to other lifestyle factors like knowing he's moving interstate for a job or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:10 AM
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I may have interpreted this incorrectly, but I always assumed with the Beta Bux scenario, that the woman didn't actually find him attractive, and was just using him for the money/security. For almost every relationship that I know of in real life, bar one or two, the woman is with a man of equal physical attractiveness, who she genuinely likes/loves and finds physically attractive. Plenty of women who genuinely find their partners physically attractive/arousing wouldn't have been ripping their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:50 AM
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It's not about making you suddenly want a relationship. It's about encouraging you to move on if you don't want one. No one is trying to turn you into something you're not. They're just trying to deduce what you truly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:23 AM
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It's not necessarily about seeing a guy as a potential provider, it's actually more about not wanting to tell your friends/family about someone you're seeing, only to get P&D'd. That would be humiliating. Guys who only want sex, and are pretty clear about that through body language and conversation make things very easy. You can decide right there and then whether you want sex with this person and probably never hear from them again. Some women will turn all men like this down, some will accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:01 AM
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This is actually a good point, one that I hadn't considered. What's in it for the guy though, financially supporting a collection of less attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:36 AM
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She may not be wealthy, but she has enough to not need to depend on a man, therefore not settling for any dude in order to survive like some past generations. As this sub has previously determined, Chad doesn't need 150K and a boat, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:21 AM
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I don't want to work 6 days a week, but if someone offered me a job that pays 10x my current one but requires 6 days a week, I'm going to jump on it. I don't think that means that I'm gaslighting other employers by telling them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:21 AM
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But could you imagine if women started saying "no hookups for average guys, hookups for hotties only" on their profile. Dudes would lose their minds, and these women would cop a tirade of abuse, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:15 AM
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So many guys, especially on OLD, look generic. A bit more confidence would definitely put them above the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:06 AM
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The point is if he does those things, then he might have a chance with an ugly, short, overweight woman of the same ethnicity. And guess what, women who go around cracking onto men who are way out of their league get hostile responses too. That's a high risk, high reward approach to dating, and takes very thick skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:24 AM
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Height is more of a binary dealbreaker for all of the women I know. Below a certain height (which for most would be either their own height or a bit shorter), and it doesn't matter how attractive they are, they're a no. I've actually never heard any of my friends talk about how they find a man attractive because of his height. They key is to pass the minimum required height, then facial attractiveness is probably the next thing assessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:14 AM
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Attraction is relative, but a haircut and a shower would help some guys get past the appearance threshold for women of similar natural attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:48 PM
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Sometimes OLD basically forces you into dating multiple people at once if you don't want to burn bridges before you get a chance to get to know people. I wouldn't assume that people dating multiple people at once necessarily prefer to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:30 AM
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When I was in primary school (12 years old), there was a fan club for one of the best looking boys. Most of the girls were members. It was kind of a joke, but everyone knew about it. You would have had to have lived under a rock to not notice that attractive people are more popular with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:35 AM
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I'm well out of college, and so are all of my friends. We still value attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:30 AM
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My experience as a woman who has lived in a number of places with different gender ratios: In general, no matter what the ratio was, I didn't have access to a higher quality of men, at least for relationships. My max quality remained basically the same. I did however, in the high % male areas, have a significantly more men within, lets call it my 'looks league', pursuing me. In places with more women, I was still dating the same quality of men (albeit less frequently), but I needed to be a lot m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:04 AM
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I'll let you in on a secret. Women get cutthroat on income when a guy has literally nothing else going for him. Be a person that women genuinely enjoy being around, and most won't care how much you earn as long as you aren't an actual liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:16 AM
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Well there's your first mistake - looking at the real world instead of the Reddit echo chamber of self-pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:02 AM
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I honestly feel like most of the guys on this sub must live in places with skewed ratios like military garrison towns or mining towns or something like that, because those are the only places that I've seen where men are competing any more than women are. Most of the complaints from guys on here just don't match my reality living in places with a balanced ratio of men:women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:06 AM
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Personally, I'll sleep with someone once I'm attracted to them enough that I know that the sex will be great. Generally, the better looking and more charismatic the guy, the sooner that will happen. Many guys though, if I turned down their advances because I hadn't hit that level of attraction yet (which for a "normal" guy in my general league isn't going to be instantaneous, I'm going to have to actually get to know and like his personality), and was actually honest about not feeling it yet, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:35 AM
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Not consciously, but it's the same as men being attracted to big tits, hourglass shape etc. It represents strong genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:25 AM
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Do you not see men who are smaller than you as weaker? What's the difference? And I doubt too many women are losing sleep over the opinions of men that they view as weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:18 AM
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I meant if you were choosing between two women and one made 50% more than the other. Although wanting to divorce someone for making 50% more than you sounds a bit insecure....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:14 AM
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But honestly, it's not something I worry about. Like I would see some giant hot woman walk past, and think "wow, that chick's hot as fuck" (sub-consciously recognising that she is leagues ahead of me genetically), and then I would go on with my life and never think of it again. The only time time that genetics rather than proven ability might matter is in attracting a mate, and in my experience, our personalities are all different enough that people are choosing for compatibility over slight dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:09 AM
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If everything else is equal and they are bigger, then yes, they are my genetic superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:59 AM
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That's fucked up, but honestly, I think that person had a mental illness or something. Like how much is sushi worth? $20 max. And she spent time chatting with you and then probably at least an hour on the date, plus prep and travel time. Not worth it for a normal person. I seriously wouldn't be worrying about this happening when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:57 AM
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Such a god point. We all look at reddit as universal, and through the lens of our own experience. As a woman in my country, I generally expect to split costs, but if I lived somewhere where men were all willing and enthusiastic to pay for my meal, I probably wouldn't look kindly on the odd one who expected me to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:52 AM
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If a man asks me out, like a cold approach, he can pay. If I ask him out, I'll at least offer to pay for it all (admittedly I don't ask men out often). If we met online and agreed to go out, I'd expect to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:47 AM
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The most appealing people are those who are effortless (-ly attractive, fit, successful etc). Plastic surgery is the opposite of that. It's basically admitting defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:56 AM
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Assuming you are a man, would you not choose a woman who made 50% more, if you were choosing between two women who were equal in all other ways? I can't imagine anyone would choose the person who made less if it meant you had to live in a shittier neighborhood, send your kids to worse schools, take fewer vacations etc. The only reason to choose the lower contributer, would be if you were actively seeking a power imbalance, which is pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:27 AM
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100%. This is what I try and explain to guys, especially with regards to OLD profiles. When you try and appeal to too wide a spread of women, you just end up looking like every other guy. And that's when women use looks/height/money to differentiate. Having a personality that isn't a bland carbon copy, and displaying that personality visually will do so much more for a guy (or a girl probably too), than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:11 AM
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Considering that men are on average taller and stronger than women, if a woman dates a man that is the same or lower size/strength as her, then she is dating someone with weaker genes. I would consider a man to be my genetic equal, if he were the same size/strength as the males in my family, not the same size as me. For me, it has nothing to do with wanting to be thrown around or anything like that, it's more of a respect thing. In the same way that I would lack respect for someone who was notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:44 PM
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Boring. No one likes spending time around boring people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:36 AM
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The issue isn't partner vs friends exactly. The problem is relying entirely on one single person to meet all of your emotional needs. This could also be a friend. If anything happens where you either lose that person, or they are no longer able to emotionally support you, you're screwed. If you have a wider network of support, it just makes you more emotionally robust.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:32 AM
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I think you're confusing demographics. IIRC, the stats about women being happier single generally refer to people 30+. They're probably not the ones enjoying the tinder buffet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:15 AM
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How do you know that your virgin won't be more likely to cheat, since she'll always be wondering what she missed out on with other guys, while someone who rode the CC with glee, is happy to settle down (not 'settle') since they know what's out there and don't have FOMO?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:57 AM
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Nah, some guys will delay, delay, delay until she's almost missed her chance to have kids, and would find it really challenging to find another partner with whom to do it. I'd recommend any woman who wants kids and is past early 30's to set a timeframe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:36 AM
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An obsession with status. The reality depicted by her social media not aligning with his lived reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:25 AM
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Maybe the cognitive dissonance will finally free a few of the 'right wing women'. We can only hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:58 AM
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My personal observation is that there is no change in the "quality" of men available. The internet has just given a voice to those who nobody would have listened to previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:46 AM
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No shit. Women know that there's a good likelihood they'll be "pumped and dumped" by any guy they approach, be him their equal, lower or higher. It's therefore only worth it for the hot guy, cause the hot guy will at least get you wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:54 AM
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My point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:52 AM
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Exactly. It works to bring any red flags to the forefront. If you playfully tease someone, and they get angry and defensive, you know that they're not that mentally stable, and you can GTFO early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:37 AM
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Yep. I've heard that in countries where ratios lean strongly towards women, because a lot of men were killed in war, that women are pretty thirsty and sexually aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:57 AM
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Here's an analogy: I want to buy my perfect forever home. I'm looking around at what's for sale, but there's nothing currently on the market that really meets my needs. There's lots of great apartments, in awesome locations, with great views, but apartments unfortunately aren't a good long term investment in my city, so I'm looking for a house. While I'm searching for my perfect house, which could take me a decade to find, I'm not going to buy or rent some average house, I'm going to rent one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:23 PM
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Nah, when women approach guys who are out of our league, we know there's a good chance that we'll basically just be used for sex. We've weighed it up and decided we're ok with that outcome. These aren't the situations we're complaining about. The not approaching guys thing applies to the ones who are in our league who we're not ok with being used by.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:03 PM
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I realised that the manosphere argument that women basically want to freeload off of a man's labour, while doing the 'easy' job of staying at home looking after kids, is basically class based. As a middle class woman, I can't imagine anyone choosing staying at home to deal with the tedium of household labour and childcare, over having the independence and stimulation of working outside of the home. However, when I think of work, my class based lens has me imagining a meaningful career, with civi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:48 PM
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From taking a quick glance, it can definitely appear that there are some women who expect a lot from men, while not necessarily bringing that much themselves. But from what I can tell, the idea is to first get these women to stop settling for trash men. Then they get encouraged to go away and work on themselves so that they're in a position to attract quality men. But they can't do that if they're still wasting their time and energy on trash men, hence all of the advice to have higher expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:53 AM
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Haha, exactly! Most of the guys I know with a particularly high N count, got there by trawling the club at 3am. Completely indiscriminate, and definitely not a selling point, even for those who don't judge much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:27 AM
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They both matter to people who care about these things. Personally, I wouldn't date a guy who I knew had paid for sex, but that is due to what I perceive it means about his attitude towards women. I wouldn't care about how regular consenting adult women (or men) he'd slept with. I'd never bother lying about how many men I'd slept with. Anyone who has a problem with it wouldn't be for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:17 AM
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Ah, so attempt to remove womens' free will and rights. I hope that's merely an observation rather than your actual intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:09 AM
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If you knew that you only had like a 1% chance of finding someone to have sex with in your life time, would you: 1. put all of your energy into making that 1% chance become a reality? 2. go on a violent rampage? or 3. find other outlets for your time, energy and creativity? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:20 AM
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Good, the earth needs fewer people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:09 PM
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Pretty much. It's not so much the "if he really wanted me, he'd approach me" part, but more that many, many men are opportunistic, and will feign interest and use women that they're not really interested in if they think she's interested enough for them to not have to make too much effort. We know that by not approaching men, that we're probably missing out on some nice shy ones, but it's worth the sacrifice to reduce the odds of being used by someone that you genuinely like, and the pain and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:28 PM
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I actually think a lot more women would be willing to do the 'dirty jobs', if it didn't mean being in a workplace that was 99% men. Being the minority in a workplace is emotionally exhausting day in, day out. I believe there are studies that show that this is a reason that men also don't last in female dominated workplaces such as childcare. WRT women being unwilling to support a SAHD, I think there would certainly be women who would, assuming that she felt assured that the guy would do a good j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:35 AM
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Yeeeah, my household of just me takes an hour or two per day to run. If there were kids involved, it would be a full-time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:17 AM
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There's an invisible price to pay for allowing yourself to be financially dependent on someone else though. The most anxiety ridden people I know are SAHW/M. It's not as good a deal as it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:07 AM
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I think you nailed it with the elder care idea. If you're a couple of years off retirement, and suddenly have a parent who needs full-time care, leaving your job is the logical thing to do. I could see that happening to women, as their male siblings would more likely be the breadwinner for a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:04 AM
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Yep, this is it. It's more likely that women now expect men to be equals in attractiveness, and to pull their weight in the home and childcare departments. The ability to be a provider on a single wage is no longer as valued or expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:51 AM
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Hmm, I wouldn't call it anxiety, just avoiding a situation I'd rather not have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:24 AM
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Most people will take higher risks for higher rewards. Both sexes, in all areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:09 PM
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Honestly, a lot of the time the whole "putting up walls" thing isn't really about safety, but about avoiding an awkward, entirely avoidable situation. If there's a decent guy who I can tell is interested in me, and is going to keep escalating if I give him even the slightest bit of encouragement, but I'm not interested in him, I'll start putting up walls in order to avoid having to flat out reject him. It doesn't feel nice to reject people, can be quite emotionally draining, and if it's a mutual…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:43 PM
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Rather than looking at it as a hierarchy, look at it from a more cultural standpoint. Someone who works in the arts, is going to be more comfortable and interested in hanging around other artistic types, even if their income varies greatly. Same with corporate types, same with blue collar types. It largely comes down to where people feel the most comfortable. I don't really want to date someone from outside of my social class because we'll have less in common, possibly quite different beliefs et…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:34 PM
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While most women would probably like 6 weeks of tropical vacations per year, I'd say most would see the benefit in a relationship with someone they like, that noticeably improves their situation. And that doesn't take much. Being pleasant company, doing your half of the household labour, contributing half the rent/costs, and being good in bed. Just providing those things would be enough of an incentive for most women to want a relationship with someone whose company they liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:43 AM
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I definitely see a trend of younger millennial men and women who have chosen somewhat glamorous careers (i.e. lots of competition for low pay), who then complain that it's not fair that they can't afford to buy a home. I think social media glamorising creative pursuits, and making them seem much more feasible careers than they actually are, is heavily responsible for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:31 AM
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Still might. I decided I didn't want kids, so that removed any urgency. I'm pretty happy single, but if the right person comes along, that would be great too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:32 AM
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Looking back in hindsight, whilst I thought I was genuinely looking for a long term partner, at least passively, the reality was that I was still building myself and creating my own story at that stage of my life. I wouldn't have been willing, for example, to move across the country for a partner's job, if it meant sacrificing my own career. I also wanted to travel extensively, and generally have the freedom to steer my life in whatever direction I wanted without having to take another person's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:53 AM
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Probably depends. Were you also drunk at the club having a good time, or were you sober, there with the intent to prey on drunk women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:41 AM
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The fact that you would "take a forced gf who hates" and resents you indicates that you are the lowest piece of shit going. Essentially a rapist. You have physical needs, use your hand. No one owes you validation. Become a person people actually want to be around and you'll get intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:17 AM
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I think they're saying that guys may have a pretty good idea that another guy is an asshole because they are privy to conversation that said asshole doesn't share around women. So the women might have no idea what a guy is really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:11 AM
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Someone above was quoting statistics that 25% of men hadn't had sex in the last year. So fucking what. No one is entitled to sex, and the expectation that everyone should be having it regularly reeks of entitlement. No one is going to die if they aren't having sex. If no one wants to be that close to you, that's a reflection on you and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:57 AM
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Wasn't that study done by a paid dating site? If that's the case, 80% of the men on there may have actually been below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:52 AM
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Dude, when women say personality is more important, what they haven't thought to say, because it is so obvious to them, is that the guy needs to meet a baseline of physical attractiveness, among other things. No one is trying to deceive you, we just felt it was so obvious that it didn't need to be explicitly mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:45 AM
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Exactly! Of the men that are in my league (looks, intelligence, socio-economic status), I want one with a good personality. Those outside of my league don't get a look in, despite how great a personality they have, or especially how nice they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:39 AM
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Such a simple concept that so many men inexplicably fail to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:48 AM
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I've never heard a woman say that looks don't matter. If they're saying that personality is more important, it doesn't mean that looks don't matter to them. It means that once a man is above a certain looks threshold (i.e. fuckable), that better looks offer diminishing returns in comparison to personality. The same could be said about income. Plenty of women would say that income isn't important to them, but that doesn't mean they would accept a broke freeloader. Same with intelligence, personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:46 AM
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Do people, men in particular, honestly believe that looks don't matter? How on earth do you go through life not noticing that good looking people get more attention from the opposite sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:39 AM
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I think there's some truth in this. I definitely got less unwanted attention as I got older, so was able to let my guard down, and start expressing interest, as I felt that it was less likely that the guy I was talking to/interested in was indiscriminately hitting on every woman in sight. I'm definitely not more desperate, but no longer need to be on the defensive all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:00 AM
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Other than being extremely tall, which could actually put a lot of women off, he seems like a fairly average looking guy. He is well groomed, and I assume in reasonable physical shape, but nothing out of the ordinary. If he is really shy it's entirely feasible that he had no luck with women. I could actually imagine that being a solid foot taller than most women could make it challenging to connect to women in day to day situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:48 AM
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Think of it this way. You're really hungry. A ham sandwich would cure that hunger. Someone offers you an chocolate truffle. You know it's not going to cure your hunger, but who's going to say no to a delicious chocolate truffle. You eat the truffle, and then continue your search for the ham sandwich. Men and women aren't that different. Women, especially as they get older, are going to lose interest in truffles, if from experience, they've learnt that despite their appearance, they don't actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:16 AM
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Yep. I know plenty of white collar- blue collar couples. But they all grew up in the same SES class. Jobs really don't matter much to most people, and the difference between a university educated and non-uni educated person at the age that couples usually get together (mid 20's) really isn't that much if they come from the same background. The gulf widens as people get older though, so I could imagine older women who have been moving in more educated circles for most of their life perhaps not wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:46 AM
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People use visual clues to determine whether someone will be a good lifestyle match. These include dress (interests and socio-economic status) and body shape. There's nothing inherently lazy about not wanting to date someone who highly prioritises fitness if it's not something that interests you beyond maintaining an adequate level of health. But I agree with you that most people aren't actually attracted to unfit/flabby bodies, just to what they represent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 03:31 AM
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As a woman, in my experience, unattractive guys are significantly more likely to be really creepy and ignore body language. I suspect this is because the odds of them getting the woman they really want is so low, that they just use a scatter gun approach, and creep on anyone who even makes eye contact with them. Attractive guys have a decent success rate by approaching the exact woman they're interested in, so use that approach instead. Perhaps they are being creepy when they do it, I don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:28 AM
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Sounds like you've got a great mindset and will make a terrific father.
/r/MGTOW225/08/20 12:57 AM
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Possibly, most people have their price. I guess I just don't really see kids as beneficial to either myself or society (I think our population needs to shrink). It's not like I need to create the next generation of workers to till my fields or something. I'd just be creating more consumers and workers to prop up capitalism, and someone else's ever expanding wealth.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 07:41 PM
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Hopefully as more men choose to take on the primary carer role, it will become more accepted and normalised for them to retain primary custody, and support mechanisms will become more accessible.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 07:36 AM
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Thanks for the response, hope it works out for you. There is certainly something to be said for raising a child on your own. Potentially more work, but having full control over the process, and not having to gamble on choosing a reliable partner may well make up for it.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 07:30 AM
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Would you be interested in kids if you could raise them alone, with no chance of a woman leaving and getting child support?
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 05:33 AM
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Definitely not my expectations!
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 04:39 AM
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Standard of living is a small factor, but my time is what I really value. I would probably be fine living basically as a monk with no possessions, as long as my time was my own.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 04:37 AM
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Thanks for the response. Would you consider trying to find a way to have kids alone, and just be a single dad?
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