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DruchiiConversion/r/MensRights25/04/12 06:24 AM
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On the one hand, that's a reasonable point, but on the other these were local people we were hiring as part of a council scheme to get unemployed people off benefits - so they were at least passably familiar with the area. And in the part of the city our factory is, there are no buildings with traffic barricades or parades, it's just far too dense for that. And everywhere else in the city I've seen, to be fair, I have a suspicion (that I can't prove) that's just not a thing that people invest in…
/r/MensRights18/04/15 12:17 AM
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100% true. I was hiring for a couple of new positions at my place recently, and the latest anyone turned up for an interview was 20 minutes early. One candidate arrived 50 minutes early because he didn't know the way and wanted to make absolutely sure. Long story short, we hired that guy (amongst others), and he's a hard worker who's going places.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 12:05 AM
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Is it okay? It's intellectually dishonest at best. I mean, I understand your point, but I'd never want to use something like this myself because it just doesn't make points I agree with.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 08:54 AM
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The problem here is that you're asking a question that doesn't have a good answer. For my own reply, I prefer to go back up one level. Most of the problems we have in society are when one person disagrees with another, and both want to perform different actions. The job of society in this scenario is to resolve that dispute in a way that people consider 'fair'. Sometimes this is easy: a murderer and their victim disagree on whether or not the murderer should be able to kill the victim. We as a s…
/r/MensRights04/08/14 02:37 PM
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There is very little we can do for you. You need professional legal advice, not internet monkey advice, and you need to be aware that depending on where you are, having the truth on your side might be of no help at all.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 10:31 AM
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It means something different over here. "Grammar School" is nothing to do with primary school. To explain what it actually means, I need to go back a few years. In the past, primary education finished with an exam called the "11+". People were graded on that, and their performance determined where they ended up. If you were good at academic subjects, you ended up in public 'grammar schools' which were exactly like regular schools, but contained teachers who chose grammar schools (i.e. self-selec…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 12:57 AM
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Are you pro-murder, too? Same logic.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 10:35 AM
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I thought this was a superb post, just a clear presentation of evidence with no need to elaborate or twist facts for an agenda. Kudos. I'll be linking to it in the future when this particular bit of mud gets slung.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:00 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karren_Brady Unsurprisingly, this is the first link when you search for the name she mentioned in the video.
/r/MensRights16/05/14 01:10 PM
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Probably for brigading, since that thread was linked from here. Is that how you found it? If so, it seems like a fair cop to me.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 11:57 AM
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My position on this is that it genuinely doesn't matter whether it does or doesn't protect against HIV - it's a matter of bodily autonomy, and every single individual who may or may not have been helped in this intervention trial consented, as an adult, to having their body modified. Meanwhile, babies can't. I just also think we haven't proven that it helps. Maybe it even does! As you say, there are plausible mechanisms for that to be the case. But it's definitely not scientifically proven.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 08:54 AM
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I don't know who is downvoting you for requesting a source, because that's probably the most important question we can ask one another here. I don't have time to comb through every study, unfortunately. The oldest ones are typically worse, so I'm going to focus my critique on Auvert B, Taljaard D, Lagarde E, Sobngwi-Tambekou J, Sitta R, et al. (2005) in PLOS. It's open-access, so you should have no trouble finding it on Google Scholar, and it's recent, in good standing, and well-cited. Neverthel…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:30 AM
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If you'd looked into it more, you'd probably have more answers about the 'why' of the matter. Unfortunately, it doesn't help the case - the reason why studies show this is because the studies in question were really, really bad. Examples of mistakes made include giving the control group nothing, but giving the circumcized group sex education and free condoms - mistakes on that level just show clear bias with a view to finding a pre-determined result.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 08:31 AM
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If there's a competitive advantage to be had, how well is your business doing? After all, you have set up in competition - right? Put your money where your mouth is? I can't imagine why you would turn down free profits, after all.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 01:22 PM
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What the fuck are you doing? Do you think seeking people out who explicitly don't want to talk to you and harassing them looks good for the movement? This shit does so much harm it's not even funny.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:00 AM
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We're not the other side to pro-choice activism. If you're pro-choice, you're already close to embracing our position, because you understand already how important it is to have control over your future when it comes to important things like children. Nobody I've ever spoken to is actually pro-abortion, it's just the least bad option when a person doesn't want or can't properly raise children at the time. Perhaps that's not you, and you just really enjoy aborting fetuses, but I suspect otherwise…
/r/MensRights13/06/13 06:03 PM
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I'd be careful of even that - I know at my workplace the anonymous evaluation forms we distribute every three months are all serial numbered with a barcode which uniquely identifies each one and who it came from. I admire your restraint, though!
/r/MensRights25/01/13 05:24 PM
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I wish people would stop giving out advice on how to 'combat' these things and what keen and winning arguments should be presented to save the day. OP: Do not say anything stupid. Your job is on the line. Other people can write in saying they've seen something and make complaints, but if you do that you will be fired and lose a job. There is a time for activism: your workplace is absolutely not it.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 05:15 PM
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It's well worth the read, and the pages go by easily.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:39 PM
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You're looking for r/misogyny. Wrong place.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 04:26 PM
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It is that horrible feeling you describe that would make this such an effective false flag.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 10:34 PM
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Please bear in mind the possibility that this is a false flag.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 10:02 PM
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I like that when I say I'm going to do something, the people around me expect me to do it and that it will be done competently. That's the only real social advantage I perceive myself as having compared to the women around me, but it is a big one that I value dearly, and a reputation I guard with care.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:43 PM
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I find "37. You can't fake an erection" far, far worse than 38, the one most comments here are about! Flat-out rape enabling language right there.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 11:38 AM
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You have to attack these problems by making people aware of the problems with the symptoms, though. Phrased as a cause, equality is easy and awesome! Even historically, you'd find very few people who identify as misogynists - early feminism tackled the problem by looking at symptoms of it, and protesting against them vehemently. This worked out really well. We need to be doing the same. Writing blogs and papers about the theory behind the movement is great and has its place, but attacking sympto…
/r/MensRights13/08/12 11:58 AM
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This video. I'm incredibly grateful for having been given such a soft red pill moment. I know some of you here have had unbelievably brutal ones, and I'm glad I didn't have to go through real hardship to learn some valuable lessons.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 09:28 PM
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I actually reported this to them a long time ago. There used to be 30,000 copies of those first three definitions, all higher-voted than the fourth one. Their admins and mods are clearly actually trying to help us here, and should get some credit at least.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 01:27 PM
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Firstly, the idea that SRS and "<x> Rights" are opposing sides in a debate is basically hilarious to me, but I damn sure wouldn't want my kid taught that. Secondly, I feel you are extremely naive in believing that you will not be complained about by your tutees' parents. I feel you are further naive in not believing that this might get you fired: many people here have been fired for posting here. Thirdly, I don't appreciate you making comments like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comment…
/r/MensRights01/08/12 07:23 PM
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For me, the big one that hasn't really been mentioned yet is lack of responsibility. Society in general is incapable of viewing women as powerful individual agents. This leads to things as wide-ranging as the range between female superheroes being crappy and overly sexualised, to the insidious and dangerous education of young women about how defenseless and endangered they are. This, like all gendered problems, has consequences for both sexes.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 08:45 AM
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Don't follow any advice that anyone gives you that starts "You should talk about...". Focus on doing your job, not activism at work - it'll get you fired. You are, however, correct that this sucks. It's really common and we're going to have to deal with it societally. But please don't risk your job over it - it's not worth it, and any feminists at work will be really keen to push you out of the door over it.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 03:16 AM
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Because female poker players are less good than male ones. It's totally plausible that this could be a result of societal conditioning or something, but if we accept that there are differences between the genders, being good at taking risks calmly seems like something that should fall down on the side of male superiority, though that's purely from my perception rather than any study I know. You are of course correct that there are some very good female poker players - naturally! However, the ext…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 11:17 PM
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My view on this (just like my view on Wikipedia) is that the purpose of these online repositories is to mirror public opinion. If misogyny is used more broadly and more subjectively than misandry, the dictionary should reflect this.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 12:37 AM
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Post this seperately! I'd like to upvote it again!
/r/MensRights28/06/12 01:08 AM
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Hi, I'm an MRA. I think you're wrong and she's right. If you don't want people to exploit the things in your post history to make you look like an idiot, don't post things that make you look like an idiot. The things you posted certainly suggested a misogynistic streak. Your argument seems to be that any normal person can be quote-mined like this, and that it's therefore abuse. With that in mind, I'll happily retract my statement if you can do it to me.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:55 PM
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So you know, this is an American thing, not a universal one. In the US, you have your Miranda warning as you no doubt know from watching the video. In the UK, we have something different: "You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you fail to mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say will be given in evidence." I hope the text of our rights on its own tells you how different these two systems are. Talking to the police here is …
/r/MensRights19/06/12 02:27 PM
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Amount of money raised is not correlated with quality of cause. After all, the biggest earners on kickstarter are games, not charities. It's all about marketing.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 12:01 PM
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I attend university, to be precise I study molecular biology & biotechnology. On my course, there's a roughly 60-40 gender split in favour of women. In that group, there's just as many intellectuals (proportionally) as there are amongst the men. Amongst the leading lights of my field, the majority are men, because most of them exist in the past. Of those who are alive today, it's much more evenly split - and growing ever more so. It may be that we do not share a culture, but certainly I would st…
/r/MensRights14/06/12 12:26 PM
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And you thought this was important enough that you needed us to be your personal army because...?
/r/MensRights13/06/12 03:57 PM
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I talk to people on the streets, but my internet activism is somewhat lacking. The only real 'success' I've had from that was a reply from the BBC Newsnight team after they did a section on domestic violence and I wrote in about it, wherein they said after a few weeks of discussion amongst themselves that they were considering doing a segment on domestic violence against men.
/r/MensRights09/06/12 10:42 PM
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Why does this matter? I just read through our thread linking to their troll, and it seems to be full of relatively well-thought-out responses with logical backing. It doesn't matter if you get taken in by someone lying - we all will at some point in our lives, probably thousands of times - so long as nothing you said wasn't what you earnestly believed. What's going to happen? Is someone going to point at that and go "HAH, see! Most of r/mr supports trans rights and feels strongly enough about id…
/r/MensRights09/06/12 02:50 PM
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What on earth does this have to do with r/mr? Are the politics of, and writings about SRS now part of our agenda? Damn, what a shitty agenda that's going to be.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 08:45 PM
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I will say I found your reply to that comment pretty funny in context here, specifically the 'SPLC labelled hate group' part. Where have we heard that before...?
/r/MensRights07/06/12 03:56 PM
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What's quite sad is that the OP presumably thought we'd lap this up. That we do in fact think like this. Ugh.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 05:42 AM
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I think coming here to link in order to get yourself a upvote brigade is pretty out of line, yes.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:40 PM
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I'd like to see sources on the numbers presented or a methodology for how they were obtained, but I certainly didn't groan - I think this represents one of feminism's biggest problems in the modern era. I'm certainly not about to discount problems women face just because I'm an MRA - that way, madness lies.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 02:34 PM
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This is definitely, definitely true - and not just newspapers, either. I contacted the BBC a few weeks back about a domestic violence segment on their Newsnight program, expressing the opinion that there should have been at least a mention of male domestic violence victims. Took a while to get a response, but in the end their reply suggested they may want to put together a full feature on male domestic violence victims in the future - now that would be a result!
/r/MensRights27/05/12 09:12 AM
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Not only that, but it's the most common thing to say about fierce anti-gay bigots! "Compensating for something?" "Probably closeted..." My understanding of the "gay narrative" (if that's even a thing? I'd have thought there'd be lots of diversity in the 'what is it like, being gay?' question) is that both groups of straight people and groups of gay people oppress gay people. Sad, but true.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 03:25 PM
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Maybe in 2005 it was even original and funny! That might even work!
/r/MensRights26/05/12 08:04 AM
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My only disagreement would be that marriage isn't a right, in my opinion. Fundamentally, it's a legal contract which confers certain financial benefits and obligations on the people who enter into it - if we changed the laws tomorrow such that nobody was allowed to marry at all, it wouldn't really cause untold misery and suffering. Some men in robes and funny hats would be out of a job, I suppose, but the religious ceremony of a wedding would still be a thing people did - and they have that righ…
/r/MensRights23/05/12 03:55 PM
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Well, as it pertains to this issue, it means that anyone who claims something to be a right does not have any moral authority to deny it to anyone else, regardless of circumstances. For instance, anyone who would claim marriage to be a 'right' - that's to say, something that cannot be denied to a person - would have no authority to deny it to other people, such as in gay marriage. After that, all you need to do is consider what does get considered a right. Personally, I don't think of marriage t…
/r/MensRights23/05/12 03:13 PM
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I believe that "rights" are a thing of their own accord. If professing certain opinions, beliefs, types of actions, or sexualities can cause those rights to be stripped from you, they were never rights in the first place.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 02:16 PM
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It's always worth the effort to debate with leaders. If they want to hang on to that title - and they always do! - they have to defend their ideas.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 03:47 PM
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It is, for the record, also an awful paper. I'm far more pleased with our recent BBC mentions than anything the Daily Mail could ever publish.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:19 PM
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There was a survey done on this topic. Turns out, of the sample taken, 16% were not male, and 72% were not teenagers. By contrast, you might want to look at the same numbers for feminism, where 23% are teenagers, and 63% are male. Feminism is on the whole slightly (though not statistically significantly) less teenage than us, and roughly twice as female. The most common user of both r/feminism and r/mensrights is a white, 21-29-year-old male. Evidently, this demographic group isn't such a proble…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:12 AM
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Opposing opinions absolutely aren't banned here. This should tell you how many feminists want to argue against the MRM. Reasonable, really - shaming and scorn are much more effective tools. It always seems ironic to me that the only feminists who ever want to debate here are actually egalitarians, and the only issue they want to discuss is that we're actually the same.
/r/MensRights05/05/12 04:36 PM
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I left a comment to that effect on their comments section. I'd urge others to do this rather than to submit an official complaint about neutrality - the last thing we want the editors to think is that posting anything about the MRM leads to massive wedges of complaints showing up. Maybe I'm just being cautious, after submitting a complaint about Newsnight last week.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 12:21 PM
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This is brilliant for us. The article is pretty negative, but it's still exposure. A major problem we face is that people don't think it's even conceivable that men could have issues, so exposure in a fairly neutral place like the BBC is really, really positive.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 12:11 PM
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Those of you who are going over to the thread and commenting: you look ridiculous, this post is three months old.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 03:43 PM
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Could you give an example of something you've sent in? Being completely unfamiliar with the show, I'm not sure how I should be formatting or phrasing things, or the exact nature of what was asked for here. For those who are sending things in, good work!
/r/MensRights01/05/12 10:27 AM
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All I can say on the attractiveness front is that I've been offered more phone numbers from standing on High Street talking to passers-by about gender issues than from everything else in my life before that combined. ;) Don't worry too much about acceptance here. We get a staggering number of trolls, so while you've not submitted too many posts here you'll get a little bit of suspicion from some members. However, just keep posting what you think, and that'll soon fade. Which sounds like somethin…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 10:25 AM
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Welcome! Your post comes across a little strangely, at least to me, right now. Specifically, I find it a little odd that you aren't sure which battles are best to fight. I'm going to try to answer that question from two perspectives. Firstly, from the perspective of your girlfriend. Now, I don't know her, so that's going to be a challenge, but I can talk about the general perception of men in the world by women. Hopefully, that'll be close enough. Fortunately, from that perspective, having a cau…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 09:33 AM
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You're misunderstanding the value of online debating, I think. If someone feels strongly enough about an issue to stand up and argue with you, you aren't going to convince them. Not now, not ever. Nobody has admitted they were wrong on the internet since the dawn of time. However, people who aren't emotionally invested into the debate will read it too, and it's pretty clear in this debate that you're the one using facts and arguments, and the other person is just evading. Those people who didn't…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 09:18 AM
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Any evidence or source?
/r/MensRights30/04/12 06:09 PM
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This link confused me at first, because it doesn't point to the correct comic. The one I'm guessing you mean is the comic before this one - it seems to update daily, and this seems to be a dynamic link to the most recent comic, meaning that the link is going to get more and more irrelevant over time.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:56 PM
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Threads like this are just going to turn into finger-pointing. The simple answer is that we can't know for sure, and the only thing we can really do to combat it is keep on posting good stuff here, so that if people do click the link to see how bad it is, they'll see a whole host of stuff that's definitely not pro-rape. TL;DR: Stay classy, r/mr.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 04:14 PM
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Having trawled through the edit history for this article, it seems completely legitimate that the wikipedia editors would remove this stuff. Please remember that Wikipedia is not a scientific journal. Being able to prove something is worth nothing there. You need to be able to cite sources elsewhere to show things, NOT prove them. Almost everything you mentioned was removed because it wasn't properly sourced as a masculist concern. If you improve the sources, this won't happen.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 08:47 PM
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My answers. I speak for myself, not for anyone else. 1. Who pays for the child? The reason we want the child to be paid for is societal. We could let these children go feral, needing to steal to eat. However, we all accept that having a fairly significant group of children brought up in an intensely impoverished environment due to the bad choices of their parents is a bad thing. This is a taxpayer cost in the same way that police funding is a taxpayer cost - it's about the reduction of crime. Do…
/r/MensRights27/04/12 06:21 AM
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Also, thanks for asking! It's clear what this person's agenda is. When people come here to ask whether we agree with this vicious, spiteful little creature, it only harms their cause.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 03:45 AM
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Goddamnit. I can't be part of a movement with Justin Bieber as a spokesperson! Well played, SRS. Well played. doff cap
/r/MensRights25/04/12 03:07 PM
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To explain for those who cannot view iplayer links: Starting at about 34:00 is a segment on domestic violence. It portrays only women as victims of domestic violence. They do take an example wherein a same-sex female couple experienced domestic violence, showing that women can be abusers just as much as men. Here is a transcript of the complaint I sent. Please do not send them one unless you have watched the segment - stay classy. "The overall quality of the program was excellent. I am not compl…
/r/MensRights25/04/12 06:26 AM
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I still find this an interesting post, for the record. For so many people to have seen this independantly, outside of r/mr, it must have had quite a broad impact range in the community at large. That's at least interesting news for the movement as a whole. Memes spreading around and permeating to lots of people is surely good.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 05:33 AM
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So... many... reposts...
/r/MensRights25/04/12 05:14 AM
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This is what happens when you anger a World Famous Hate Group! :D
/r/MensRights24/04/12 01:43 PM
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Most redditors, being non-UK, will not grasp the context here. The BBC (to whom she is employed) has recently enacted a behind-the-scenes policy wherein talented older women employed as presenters are seeming to be systematically removed from their jobs and replaced with younger, more attractive presenters. This is not to do with their abilities, this is a fairly blanket agenda. There's no proof that it's true, but there's certainly a trend. The reason, then, that this woman is choosing to inter…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 01:37 PM
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This link is better, at least in my opinion, than the original one.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 07:31 AM
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I contacted them by email, here's my response. Unfortunately it looks like generic default bullshit, so it doesn't deserve its own post. "Hello <firstname>, CNN thanks you for your correspondence. It is very important to us to know what our viewers like and dislike and we appreciate your feedback. Your comments will be part of tomorrow's viewer response report, which is made available to our news division and senior management. Have a great day! Sincerely yours, Kepi Viewer Communications Manage…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 05:07 AM
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In fairness, taking blood (or possibly other organs in transplant) is still a medical procedure, and it's always possible that there'll be a hospital-acquired infection leading to death. But there's probably not enough time in a commercial to explain that...
/r/MensRights23/04/12 12:43 AM
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You smart people who write things like rightsbot: would it be possible to write a bot who follows this guy around, and replies to all his comments to say "Listen, guys. This guy's false-flagging and doing a thing. Don't listen. Kthx."? This seems like a neat solution to an issue (turning it into a net win rather than a net loss) but it's also work, and worse, work I don't know how to do.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 04:10 AM
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I wasn't being sarcastic, I was genuinely grateful. :) Enjoy your pondering! When you come back to revisit the topic again, I'll still be grateful for you bringing it up again and making me think about what I previously said, to see if I now disagree with it!
/r/MensRights22/04/12 01:54 AM
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Disagree with this. Both charges should be considered on their merits. In both cases, the only evidence seems to be one person's word against another. In both cases, then, there is insufficient evidence to be convinced beyond reasonable doubt of guilt. Therefore, neither should be charged, regardless of which one seems more truthful - barring further evidence.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 12:41 AM
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If you didn't lie, don't apologise. They're big boys and girls, they'll get over being outraged every now and then. I gave your comment history a quick scan-through and didn't see anything worthy of apology. Please, stick around! More rational voices will only ever help!
/r/MensRights22/04/12 12:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure I never got involved in the negative "fuck-off"-y comments you got (nor have I seen them), but I'd like to take a moment to explain why I think those are prevalent here. Indeed, why I'm almost half in favour of them - though I'd like them to be done with a little more tact. Look at the issues for a moment from a politician's perspective. He (because he probably is a he) doesn't have time to look at every issue in detail and come to a position on it. Hell, even if there were enoug…
/r/MensRights22/04/12 12:17 AM
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First off, thanks for replying to something so old. Nice to see old discussions revisited. As I said in that post, I wasn't disagreeing with the argument, I was disagreeing that the post in question made this argument in an appropriate way. I certainly think that female agency is a huge problem in the MRM, more specifically its understatement in mainstream thinking. I still think the particular logical argument you are outlining lacks a few logical nuances, though. The conclusion is very much ba…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 06:03 PM
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I liked the /MR mention in the comments there, about how people with obviously female names shouldn't come here. I've definitely noticed a lot of hate for people with 'girl' in their username, for sure. If someone fitting that description posted a series of videos, I bet they'd get no upvotes at all, regardless of how awesome they were! /s
/r/MensRights21/04/12 04:36 PM
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Do you suppose it actually makes us look bad to have obvious trolls running around going "hi imma mra i liek rape plz go to /r/mr"? Smacks a little of desperation to me.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 03:45 PM
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And definitely, definitely don't give them what they want by linking the whole group to them! This is, what, the third time in 24 hours we've fed the trolls? Hey guys and gals, let's stop feeding the trolls!
/r/MensRights20/04/12 02:24 AM
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Why are we feeding the trolls, again?
/r/MensRights19/04/12 05:23 PM
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I was about to say... I distinctly remember going back and reading about all this agentorange bullshit because it happened before I joined, and one of the only names I recognised as being massively, obviously against the whole thing was yours. To try and smear this of all things on you is beyond retarded.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 06:09 PM
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I live in a student city in England, and have gotten great results out of stopping people on the street. I do this on the high street where the charity folks do the same, and a really amazing number of young people stop to listen to me and discuss with me. I actually find the best response comes from self-proclaimed feminists, because usually they're acutely aware of the language of discrimination, but haven't ever thought for a moment that it might be bidirectional in society. I'd estimate that…
/r/MensRights13/04/12 11:26 AM
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Yes. Taking someone at their word in order to do the crazy and outrageous act of... ...saying that encouraging people to kill themselves is wrong. What fools we are.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 08:16 PM
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I've always wondered why "I don't remember" is at all admissible in these cases. If you don't remember, how are you a credible witness? If there are no credible witnesses, how does a trial progress?
/r/MensRights12/04/12 06:57 PM
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One excellent repository for sources is MRRef.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 01:18 PM
3

How sure are you that the changes you have experienced in the manner in which you are treated stem from misogyny? It sounds to me like there could be two causes: misogyny, and transphobia. I also feel that one of those two is far more likely to be a massive systemic problem that would be extremely noticeable to you.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 01:05 PM
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I am feeling real, genuine sympathy that your internet number point score is now lower than it was yesterday. Really, my heart bleeds. Truly this is a tragedy for the ages.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 09:50 AM
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I was delighted when I got my ban. Kickass! I'm now labelled as someone antithetical to what SRS stands for! Best compliment I've ever received.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 03:32 PM
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As a molecular biologist, I agree with this. Most medical innovation and new products will come out of China and India in the next 100 years. However, as a consequence, millions and millions of people will die. Some of the drugs that come out of poor quality assurance programs will work, and will be adopted in the west in due course. However, those that do not are catastrophically bad for medicine - remember thalidomide? (I'm aware I'm a million miles off topic, but I couldn't resist, I'm afraid…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 10:28 AM
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Oh, sure, the people that do it are also mental and awful scientists. No arguments there! But that's inevitable, since there's no room for an infallible book in science. If you have a set of core assumptions you're not willing to drop with no evidence for them, you just can't be a good scientist on any issue where those assumptions have any importance whatsoever.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 06:05 AM
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I think you did skip one logical step, actually (between "if women aren't..." and "Men."), but that's definitely not the point I was trying to make. I'm saying that the original post skipped all the points you made - every single one - which makes it a large leap in logic to go from the quote to agency.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 01:49 AM
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That's a lot of leaps of logic to get to a point where it's relevant. Which is fine, I sure as hell don't mind a nice logical construction to reach a point, but none of those were made in that submission. Just a short screed about how we should be allowed to insult people for wearing things. Personally I think the issue you're talking about - female agency - is the most important one we face, which leads to many of our other issues as symptoms of this root cause. So please, don't think that I'm …
/r/MensRights07/04/12 01:10 AM
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Sure, and in those cases it's very much a case of public perceptions, and totally a MR issue. However, one of the examples linked back here is this: a comedian joking about whores. Funny, no doubt. But where's the MR issue here? Are we against people being allowed to wear whatever they like? I don't think we are. The voting pattern in that thread suggests that I'm not alone in thinking this, either.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 12:38 AM
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I'm guilty of posting this a fair bit. I post it whenever I see someone simply posting a link to some woman somewhere doing a bad thing. In my case I do it because I consider that to be a really poor way of going about convincing people outside of the movement that it's not actually a platform for misogyny, which I firmly believe it isn't. Posts about the law, about public perception of men, about public perception of women, about activism - all the kinds of things I want to see. But just saying…
/r/MensRights07/04/12 12:22 AM
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Not trying to accuse him of racism. It's just the most common thing that 'diversity' groups bring up. If that's unclear, allow me to clarify: I definitely think the post I replied to is non-racist.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:44 AM
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Oh - I see. Yeah, I've phrased that poorly. By 'small set' I don't mean numerically, I'm talking in terms of diversity, as a response to the context in Demonspawn's post. I'd be quite a strange MRA if I thought that not having the majority in a debate made you wrong! If the film is about this man holding the ethically sound principles because he's a man, then yeah - that'll be a counterpoint to what I'm saying, and is probably fair reason to withdraw it. From what I've read that doesn't seem to …
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:42 AM
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Can't say I have, why? I gave it a quick Google, and there's a few very brief posts that link it to diversity, but having not seen the movie in question I can't really draw much from them.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:29 AM
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Back when some people thought the world was flat, the Greeks - eastern europeans with a european religion - knew otherwise. The egyptians - black africans with their own religion - knew otherwise. The Chinese - chinese people with yet another religion - knew otherwise. Note the diversity? This is because those people followed evidence. Heliocentrism is an even more interesting case study. There, everyone thought from what they saw that the sun orbitted the earth. Then, evidence came out from cha…
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:19 AM
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I'm disappointed that this has fewer upvotes than the post itself.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:29 AM
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It speaks poorly of a set of views if only a small set of people hold them. Can you think of any other objectively correct/laudable viewpoint which is only held by a small demographic subset of the community its in? This is why terms like 'Christian science' get so much deserved flak. Truth doesn't change depending on what colour your skin is.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:24 AM
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That's why comments like this one are good.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:13 AM
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We don't control discourse on other subreddits. We do control discourse here. It's important to set higher standards than the ones we want society to follow.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 02:31 AM
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So go post it on /WTF or /WomenSuck or wherever else surprising things should be. It's not about rights, and it's not about public perceptions of men. I hate to be 'that guy', but this really is just "lol, look how dumb this small sample of women interviewed are!", and doesn't lend anything to the movement.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 07:31 PM
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This is definitely nothing at all to do with Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 06:02 PM
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Personally, had I filled out the survey, I would have been down in that category. I'm currently attending university, that's the only reason I can afford to not work. I suspect based on the age statistics and the numbers that I'm far from alone.
/r/MensRights03/04/12 08:57 PM
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And rightly so. We vaccinate people to prevent the spread of the virus more than to protect individuals against it, because for those individuals who cannot be vaccinated for whatever reason are then very unlikely to come into contact with the disease. This is true of female-only diseases just as it is true of other diseases. (Can't think offhand of any transmissible male-only diseases with vaccines, but we'd be vaccinating girls against them too. If I'm wrong about this, please link me!) People…
/r/MensRights03/04/12 03:31 AM
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Totally, and that part's discrimination. But she's just one example of many, many brilliant female scientists. You're trying to make a scientific (neurological) argument to show why female scientists are worse than male ones, and it's just not true. You need to go to the data, and the data will show you that you aren't correct. Are there advantages given to women in science now? - sure! Definitely. But that doesn't change that women are no worse at science than men, and inventing pseudoscience t…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 05:42 PM
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There are a vast array of women who are great at exact sciences. Just to give an example who shares one name with one of yours, Ada Yonath, nobel prize-winning x-ray crystallographer. If anything, biological science and molecular biology especially is dominated by women in terms of its graduates, and its new researchers. And yes, molecular biology is 'exact science' before someone starts.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 05:11 PM
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Because academic feminism gives us statements like "men as a class oppress all women as a class". This is not at all helping our cause, nor is it fighting against any sort of gender binary - just look at the statement again, right there is the heart and soul of gender binary. Attacking feminism by calling it out as bullshit in academic, properly-cited, peer-reviewed work is not cause for concern trolling. GTFO.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 04:41 PM
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It's certainly coming across to me at least as concern trolling. I read through your post history while you were replying to that, and basically I was just about ready to apologize anyway - I can see from your other posts (especially posts elsewhere) that you don't seem to be a troll. I would like to take back the hostile tone, if I may. That said, please at least start by doing some reading. r/MRRef is a good source for the statistics and examples if you like - most of what you're being linked …
/r/MensRights02/04/12 04:23 AM
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Seriously, dude. Do you think showing up into our safe space, doing no research of your own into our opinions, and replying to everybody's points with "please give examples" and "please cite sources" or even "Not All Feminists Are Like That" (Protip: If we hear it often enough to make memes about it, it's not a new argument) is convincing anyone? Please go away, learn how to not be intellectually lazy, then come back for a discussion. Come back with questions, by all means! Specific questions ar…
/r/MensRights02/04/12 04:10 AM
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I'll volunteer for that, too. From your citations I'm guessing it's academic work, I've some experience there. Only as a biochemist, not any sort of social science, so I'm guessing your conventions will be different to mine but if you think it could be helpful, I'm sure you'll get stacks of redditors volunteering here.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 04:03 AM
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As a non-TV-watching, non-American, I doubt I can be much use to you here. However I did want to support the idea! We need more research done as a movement, and if you could write up the findings in an unbiased way and submit them to peer review, we'd be even more aided by your work. Thanks for doing it!
/r/MensRights01/04/12 02:07 PM
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Yeah, making logical arguments based on what you, the self-appointed representative of All Feminists Everywhere said yourself is the height of brainwashing. We're done here.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 12:31 PM
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You can't force a woman to get a paternity test for their child just because she had more than one partner. Why not? Why can you not force women to do this, but you can force men to give away their money? Bring on the force.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 12:27 PM
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First off, "not being believed" is an essential part of a legal system. If there is no absolute proof to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt, society should not believe you. Why? Because look at the other side - if you are automatically believed, I am automatically guilty of a crime I didn't commit. I get my life ruined because you say I'm a bad guy. This is the heart and crux of why I can't be a feminist - because your organization has convinced you that 'not being believed' is an issue wom…
/r/MensRights01/04/12 12:06 PM
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MRAs don't need to fight for you being eligible as a victim of rape, because you already are. I, on the other hand, am considered medically incapable of being raped, even if sex is forced upon me without my consent. That's why it's still possible to hold what seem like two contradictory opinions: That men's, and only men's, rights are worth fighting for in an organized movement. That men's and women's rights ought to be equally important and should be as completely equal as possible in society. …
/r/MensRights01/04/12 11:48 AM
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We've recently had issues where more than one mod had to step down as a result of being identified by IP. For most people, this is not an issue at all! However, if you use r/mr from a government computer, or a place of work affiliated with similar, this can be a very serious problem, and can lead to you being forced to choose between staying here and keeping a job. Needless to say, here rarely wins that one. The best solution is not to get doxed at all.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 09:50 PM
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Would we complain about "Two thirds of British women use their brains to get ahead in life."? It's a body part, get over it. If you think it's unfair that you can't use your tits because you don't have any, get surgery.
/r/MensRights30/03/12 01:37 PM
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Sure. That's what we're all about. But you say that you don't think it will - it can, it will, it does. It's not seen as a big issue, either - just ask Dave Foley, a celebrity who's barred from his homeland because if he ever returned there, he'd be literally imprisoned for not making enough money to pay his child support. This is true of many men - imprisoned in this way, even, because they don't have the money to leave the country - but the fact that even a famous, (formerly-) rich person can …
/r/MensRights29/03/12 01:47 AM
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Remember you can come here to vent at any time. This type of arrangement sucks, but if you don't have any outlets at all it can absolutely destroy a young man. That's my only advice, though - you're never going to change the mind of an extremist of any stripe.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 06:07 PM
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You must be new to feminism. Have you not heard of safe spaces? I'll expect your apology for violating ours shortly.
/r/MensRights27/03/12 10:24 PM
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It'd also be a hell of a short paper! Not a lot you can say about those three specific issues - to me they're the cut and dried ones, where a few moments' thought tells you they're pretty obviously not gender-neutral.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 10:49 PM
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It's a quote from this speech. This leads me to assume it must have been sarcastic.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 11:48 AM
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I disagree with the other poster, I think you're wrong, but earnest and making an argument, so I think this is a good post. Personally, I'm a student of molecular biology & biotechnology at one of the top universities in my country. Privately educated, from a decent background - my father (who raised me alone from 11 till now) is a company director for a medical engineering company, my mother the second-in-command at a small insurance firm. This is not such a rare position to approach things fro…
/r/MensRights23/03/12 11:46 AM
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Because they make up the majority, and we live in a democracy. Personally, when fighting for equality, I want to win. Don't you?
/r/MensRights21/03/12 07:08 PM
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Congratulations! On an even better note, if you're persistent and hard-working enough to press the government into giving you that much, I'm sure you can apply those traits to being a magnificent dad. Enjoy it!
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:35 PM
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Money is part of his property, he is free to do with it as he pleases. Your claims have just as little evidence as mine. You'll need more than unqualified statements to justify legal imbalance. Rights are not transferred at any time. That's why they're RIGHTS, n., "that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc." Not "due to anyone who hasn't had sex". Also, for a person saying 'Good bye', you sure did a good job of replying to someone else here 11 minutes lat…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 01:40 AM
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Mother consented to unprotected sex. Why, then, is mother allowed to abort the baby when it is not in the best interests of the child? As you say, the difference is as basic as things get. Women have rights, men do not have rights in this field. A little equality would be nice.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 12:26 AM
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A bit circlejerky for my tastes, this.
/r/MensRights19/03/12 01:59 PM
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To all the people who are talking about how it's unfair for the mother to get the choice first: Do you think this flowchart is more or less fair than the current system?
/r/MensRights18/03/12 01:26 PM
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It is a stupid debate by stupid people for stupid people.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 12:59 PM
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Is this 'proof'? To me, this is proof that the author is willing to self-publicize, which is true of pretty much every journalist in human history.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 08:12 PM
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Oh, sure! If I thought SRS was right, there'd be something defective in my brain. However, I'm pretty damn sure this is what they're referring to.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 08:09 PM
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It's what's referred to as the "AgentOrange files" around here, I believe. I don't know the ins and outs of the affair, but that's a term you can google, at least.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 09:28 AM
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You write with a clarity that puts the lie to this claim that you're not a good speaker. I suspect you're not a confident speaker, which is very different from an unskilled speaker. If you're so bursting with energy, you can totally do it. And even if not, why not try?
/r/MensRights16/03/12 08:03 AM
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Intelligent, thoughtful, strong, wise, diligent, hard-working, caring, good-looking, capable, studious. You know, sharing the positive traits of many women out there. We're not talking about what's "wrong with women". There are many heterosexual men here! We think women are good!
/r/MensRights16/03/12 07:45 AM
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I'm honestly not sure what the comments on this side are talking about. All the top comments are measured ways of saying "They're actually pretty okay". This is great publicity, and shows a level of acceptance I thought very unlikely.
/r/MensRights14/03/12 08:23 PM
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I would make a single, extremely well-thought-of celebrity take up our banner. In my country, that would be someone like Stephen Fry, not so sure about other countries. This would have an enormous effect towards legitimizing the movement, and once the movement is legitimate, politicians will help solve lots of problems with us.
/r/MensRights14/03/12 06:16 AM
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What were you expecting? We'd do the same if this happened to them. Let them talk about it. For every hundred people who haven't thought about our issues who sees it, a few will think critically. A few more will come over here to engage us (even with hostility). These two sets of people are net gains for our cause, and the rest weren't going to think about the issues anyway.
/r/MensRights13/03/12 01:18 PM
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SRS is involved in the usual way: they showed up afterwards to shit on everything. This ends the summary.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 11:44 PM
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Everything worth talking about is also funny.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 08:51 AM
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There are many different factions within the feminist movement, with beliefs very different from each other. Until you go to politicians and tell them that, they won't know that. Let me repeat that, since feminists aren't doing it: Until you go to politicians and tell them that feminists aren't a voting bloc they can appeal to, politicians are going to treat you like a voting bloc they can appeal to. Until feminists aren't a voting bloc, and politicians don't think that by supporting misandry th…
/r/MensRights11/03/12 08:21 AM
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I'm pretty confident there are many cases where a false accusation occurs, but never gets to court because of an early admission of falsehood by the accuser. We'd never hear about those cases. But if this has happened even once where this has been the case because of the light punishments for doing so - I'd never want to prevent that. The social stigma is what we should be focusing on building. Locking women in jails for thirty years is good revenge, but it doesn't help men's rights any, and if …
/r/MensRights11/03/12 01:40 AM
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That's not an attack on someone's "rights". Can you explain what rights I am attacking by advocating legal paternal surrender? I mean, if you think women have a right to take money from men, I guess you could argue that I'm doing that, but that's not a right. If you think it is, well, we're so far apart on the issue that we can't have a discussion. Because that's all we're talking about here - allowing men to have a choice whether or not to contribute money to a child's welfare. I'd be intereste…
/r/MensRights11/03/12 01:32 AM
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I'm actually quite okay with low sentencing for this issue. If it's too high, we put a very strong disincentive to women admitting that they were lying - we definitely don't want that! In cases where the verdict that it's a false accusation came through means other than the plaintiff admitting it, sure, sentence harshly, but if the reason we get to that position is because she admits that it was a lie - well, that admission might be saving the defendant 30 years in prison. I, at least, don't wan…
/r/MensRights11/03/12 12:52 AM
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Right. And "controlling the woman's body" is not what most MRAs argue for. We accept that we shouldn't get to tell women if they should get an abortion or not. As you rightly say - your body, your rules. However, that's unfair, so there has to be a counterbalance for men. This counterbalance comes in the form of legal paternal surrender, or "financial abortion". This is still unfair, in that a married couple could see the woman keep the baby and force the man into a hard choice as to whether to …
/r/MensRights11/03/12 12:37 AM
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I'd advise that you take a while to collect your thoughts. That's easiest to do in writing, and in the modern age writing is really easy to share... but I can't really encourage you to jump right into blogging like that, can I? Right now, you're thinking tribally. You're thinking of Men's Rights as a tribe, and women as a tribe. Evidence for this includes you categorising us as "men (and probably some women too)" -- (for the record some of our most prominent and well-thought-of members here are …
/r/MensRights10/03/12 07:38 AM
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One thing you should know before you read us much further is that we do have our share of misogynists. More than our share, even. This isn't unexpected. If you were a misogynist, this is the sort of place you'd want to go to! You get to be all angry at women (so long as you use the word 'feminist') and you get a little bit of a hugbox to protect you from people saying mean things. It's expected too because it's true of feminism - there's a fair few people there who want to cut up men and "gender…
/r/MensRights10/03/12 07:16 AM
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A 47-minute-old account with detailed info on everything we've "EVER" said. I bet you're not a troll.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 06:34 AM
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I see.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 05:12 AM
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Welcome to the newest hate group on the list! I see you have 'hater' in your name, you'l fit in superbly. /s I think a good rule of thumb for identifying the kinds of issues we have with society is to ask yourself "Under what circumstances does the law treat men and women differently?". When you do that, you'll find where you stand on these issues too. Some are obvious - the one you mentioned would be child support, which is overwhelmingly paid by men to women, is a system which can be easily ab…
/r/MensRights10/03/12 01:30 AM
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You're encouraging people to activism without explaining why. You'll get a much better response out of this if you can clearly lay out your argument - show us what you think and why you think it, and other people will send in something similar. I'm assuming you have followed your own advice and sent something in - why not share?
/r/MensRights09/03/12 08:10 PM
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Yes, it does. In my country, healthcare is free and easily-accessible to all, paid for by taxpayers' money. I can walk into any one of hundreds of local health centers and pick up any birth control I like, for free, whether it's for me or for my partner, or even if it's just a condom to turn into a balloon, fill with water, and throw at my friend because I'm a 12-year-old kid. However, in some countries healthcare isn't free and government-run. In these countries, it would be in the best interes…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 07:44 PM
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And if the article were about how Scouts was being toned down, and about how it was being changed to be no longer appealing to boys, I'd probably say it deserved some discussion here.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 10:19 PM
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Good for them. Scouts is a great organization.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 07:15 PM
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There's lots of feminists out there who believe in both child support and abortion. The point here is the ability to choose between two non-harmful outcomes - right now, men have no ability to choose between any number of outcomes in the reproductive market, and can instead be screwed over just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 04:02 PM
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That doesn't mean it's what every single guy is allowed to want. Oh feminism.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 02:49 AM
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Nobody ever says "Men being unfaithful is not very nice to their partners. However, it's not their fault, because society encourages them to be promiscuous.", do they? They don't say this because it's a silly thing to say. It's a really shitty argument. If I murder a guy, and someone told me beforehand "Hey, you should murder a guy", that does not make me any less a murderer. That's not how agency, culpability and responsibility works. In an egalitarian society, it's really fucking important tha…
/r/MensRights08/03/12 01:18 AM
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I'm trying to understand what your sentence means. You said: "Sociologically, though, it's not all women's fault, because men aren't really slut-shamed at all." I now understand (because you've told me) that by 'it's not all women's fault' you meant 'not all women do this'. Sure. But if you're saying that 'not all women do this' because male chastity is valued less than female chastity then you're giving excuses to people doing horrible things that don't stand up to any scrutiny at all. Further,…
/r/MensRights08/03/12 12:58 AM
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Certainly true, but then what did the "because men..." part of the sentence mean?
/r/MensRights08/03/12 12:48 AM
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Not a fan of this remark. Of course it's not "all women's fault", because not all women do it. However, it is all the fault of the women who do do it, because ruining someone's life with a false rape accusation because of "shame" is not even a little bit acceptable. Making excuses for them won't help in the slightest.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 12:25 AM
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I was totally unaware of the MRM and hadn't thought about any of its issues. I thought feminism was a crock, but I hadn't thought long or hard about the significance of any of the MRM's issues. I was browsing through youtube, watching the many interesting talks on things like Botswanan economics and similar, when I clicked on a link to a youtuber who was talking about the MRM. That person happened to be girlwriteswhat, and I basically sat there watching for an hour and a half going "Holy shit. T…
/r/MensRights06/03/12 04:27 PM
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Please don't think like this. There are those amongst us who think they "have had bad experiences with transpeople". They are very few in number, and flatly wrong. Further, the way to deal with them is absolutely not to pander to them, and to change your expression because of it. It's to tell them to shut right the fuck up, because they are not the majority and do not speak for anyone besides themselves. You should not be saying things that you don't want to say like that first paragraph just in…
/r/MensRights05/03/12 02:49 PM
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A year ago, men's rights is something I'd never heard of. Literally not something I would have considered as a thing that might exist, and meanwhile I wasn't a feminist but I'd certainly have not considered to oppose anything they were doing. This year I became aware and instantly agreed, so that's at least +1 supporter. I also began to notice an increase in the number of news articles saying things that were pro-MRM, even in the liberal newspapers I usually read (in the UK this means the Guardi…
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:13 AM
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If this is true, then feminism should no longer be called that. It should be called equalism. Is it?
/r/MensRights04/03/12 12:55 AM
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The comment by magdajoyce, "Are you equating circumcision to female genital mutilation?" given immediately after the question is asked. The original poster gets to give an answer to the question, then immediately thereafter all discussion is about whether circumcision is comparable to FGM - totally not the appropriate discussion to have, and clearly a reframe and a derail to talking about women's things. I only chose this example because it happened so recently and was so well-linked to - it was…
/r/MensRights03/03/12 01:25 PM
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How about this? http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/qepa7/iama_mens_rights_activist/ I find it to be a good microcosm of the whole debate. Someone brings up suicide rates, BAM, in comes a derail into women's suicide. Bring up circumcision, BAM, someone's right in there talking about FGM. Meanwhile, the original poster is fending off people trying to talk exclusively about feminism and asking about feminist theory and feminist literature. I can understand you saying that you have never seen thi…
/r/MensRights03/03/12 10:48 AM
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Clearly it will be easier for the boy to get through life with a mother who doesn't worry about him and doesn't love him! Love only promotes false expectations about prosperity in a world that will spurn him anyway! /s
/r/MensRights02/03/12 11:12 AM
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No sarcasm intended. :) ...shit, I did it again! (I'd use /s tags if I were being!)
/r/MensRights01/03/12 07:49 PM
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No, that's fair. There's no better source on what your intentions were than you! If that's not what you intended to imply, that's cool.
/r/MensRights01/03/12 07:40 PM
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Not sure I like the implications of this question... I understand that there's a prevalent opinion that /mr doesn't like wives or ex-wives. I mean, I don't think it's true -everyone here who has a wife cares enough to have gotten married, meanwhile most people aren't exactly fond of their ex-wives. But where would you get the impression that people here need encouragement to say good things about their children? I mean, there's a huge group of people here fighting tooth and nail just to be able …
/r/MensRights01/03/12 07:24 PM
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We have -words- for Christians who do not believe the Vatican is a reliable source of information on how to live a Christian life, and we have words for those who do. "Catholic", "Protestant", and the whole myriad of terms for the different groups. These are not rare words, and the arguments over them have been really fucking long and really fucking bloody. If we get to the point where the egalitarian feminists are declaring war to brutally kill the misandrist feminists on the field of battle, f…
/r/MensRights01/03/12 06:41 PM
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I just submitted a comment using the Feedback form, "Good day, I represent a Men's Rights Activist (MRA) group who promote gender equality in society. I am writing just to inform you that the definition of a word important to us (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=misandry) shows all the hallmarks of having been attacked by a script or botnet, with 99 spam definitions in place, along with some 30,000 votes to obscure a legitimate definition and promote a hateful one encouraging discr…
/r/MensRights01/03/12 04:29 PM
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Imagine two children. One of the children is short on pocket money and can't afford a new toy. The child comes to you and says "Oh, please! Just lend me $5, I'd like it so much! I'll be much happier in life with this toy, and all my friends on the playground will be helped too! It'll stop them picking on me for not having it!" The other one doesn't say anything, because he or she is lying on the ground, emaciated from lack of food. It's clear what this child wants with your money - for you to bu…
/r/MensRights29/02/12 10:40 AM
2

This is a hell of a post, and should be required reading to the feminists who come here.
/r/MensRights29/02/12 09:24 AM
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They're not wrong to do this. The Wikipedia rules talk very clearly about what constitutes new research - and taking two facts which are logically related and linking them together is amongst them. The sources you have on this wikipedia page are great for convincing rational people, but that's not good enough. If you want a wikipedia page on this issue, you need to start by submitting articles about female privilege to reputable journals. This shouldn't be too difficult to do, and it'll pay you …
/r/MensRights28/02/12 08:31 PM
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That's what this should be titled as, however. "A prominent feminist goes insane". Not to NAFALT all over the place or anything, but this is clearly an individual with serious issues that oughtn't be taken as representative for the whole of anything. There's enough bile in that movement without needing to place a magnifying glass on its most evil points to see evil. Of course, it says a lot about a movement that it elects such leaders.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 04:18 PM
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I found that report about feminists fighting for the rights of female animals to be the ultimate example of this. Cast-iron proof if any more were needed that this is not about human issues anyone could take seriously any more, it's just fighting for the sake of fighting.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 04:06 PM
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For another example of a way feminism and the trend towards its empowerment in society harms everyone (including women), take a look at the post one below this one - "generation of man-children" indeed. Wonder if feminism has anything to do with that?...
/r/MensRights28/02/12 03:49 PM
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Ask him nothing. That's the only way to deal with attention whores.
/r/MensRights28/02/12 10:37 AM
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Honestly? I'm not sure. I'm pretty new to the movement, and I'm sufficiently young and sheltered that that's never actually been an issue. I don't know the family courts over here very well, and our media is just about as keen as the US media on covering such a story. Someone once said that wisdom is the skill of learning from someone else's mistakes rather than your own, though, so I'll be damned if I don't learn all the angles I can from places like this. One thing I can definitely say is that…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 10:14 PM
1

Both of those claim to be Child Support calculators, for the record, but thanks for providing the links. The first one was the only one I got to work (being british, I don't really understand the specifics of the numbers in US financial statements, and it kept bitching to me about 'custodial deductions' which just isn't a term I'm familiar with). That said, on the one that did work, I actually got a value $30 higher than yours. Because $41/month is far too much for a lowly man. Ugh. Thanks for b…
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:42 PM
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Could you provide a link to the calculator used? A quick search I just gave showed me a child support calculation of exactly $666 for the amounts you gave, but it asked for a few variables you didn't specify, so I wasn't expecting exact matching.
/r/MensRights27/02/12 08:18 PM
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Personally, I'd go with "Black Knight". As a literary character, the black knight is one who fights often anonymously for "the wrong side", as a rebel, for reasons of personal duty and morality. They remain anonymous due to scorn or attacks from their own side, and do what's required to get shit done. See http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackKnight
/r/MensRights27/02/12 06:16 PM
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