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I hear ya! Well I fight for equality and understand that presents differently on both sides. But I would like to see everyone exist in a space that protects them. Thanks for the discussion
/r/MensRights08/03/24 06:23 AM
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I’ve just seen the edit about a safe space for men’s self esteem etc and I totally understand that. I think we’re not disagreeing here. I’m encouraging this as something you guys can get.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 06:10 AM
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Thanks for responding. I guess my understanding of it is to take nothing away from men in the process. It’s not something I understand to have been established by law, but by women who organised the spaces. I’m just saying, this is something I’m sure is possible for men to create too. Just because women only gyms exist, doesn’t mean that men only gyms can’t, one existing doesn’t mean the other can’t. I know a women who uses one because she was raped by men in a mixed gender gym. I’m not saying t…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 05:46 AM
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Those who downvoted this, can you explain what you’re disagreeing with me about here? Not in an attempt to argue, purely for me to better understand
/r/MensRights08/03/24 04:36 AM
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It’s for safety. If you don’t identify as a threat, then I imagine you’ll be capable of understanding this isn’t about people like yourself. And if you’re sincerely interested to understand, then I’m sure there are many people who can provide you with examples. But if you’re interested in an all male gym, then I’m sure there are spaces you can action this. All female gyms aren’t to offer women a privilege or a one up on men, it’s purely to create a safe space. So if you want one too, talk to you…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 02:44 AM
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I’m not going to side with ignorant white people calling on a space in the race game as any association to the discussion of men and women . Honestly I don’t even have it in me anymore, I’m here to fight for equality. A space where both men and women exist. Not the extremist, not supporting misandrist, just equality. It’s so exhausting to have this heard without it being turned into the definition and comparison of patriarchy and feminism. I don’t need to be part of that discussion anymore. I’m …
/r/MensRights03/03/24 05:33 AM
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I’m sorry to hear this, and I know the courts are are a difficult space for dads
/r/MensRights03/03/24 05:29 AM
1

A fair question and Yes I do! I don’t support anything other than equality
/r/MensRights03/03/24 05:26 AM
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I appreciate your opinion and yes you are right. I hold myself accountable for that and you’re right to call it out. It’s nice to have a discussion and appreciate you’re coming from a fair place of judgement. I feel heard and respected in my view and value that you have an interesting perspective to offer. Thank you for giving me this
/r/MensRights02/03/24 05:37 PM
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I appreciate your fair response. I think all I can say is it’s disheartening to see a lot of the conversations that take place here and the outright hostility towards women in general. Women are not interested in the down fall of me men, in fact the opposite. We want to enable safe spaces for all. We just want to stop the people who are causing us to feel unsafe etc. this isn’t a brush for all men to wear, if you don’t identify as a threat then help us stop the ones who are. We can’t compare our…
/r/MensRights02/03/24 04:02 PM
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I appreciate your open minded response
/r/MensRights02/03/24 03:47 PM
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I just see a lot of comments contradicting the message. Fighting for the right to exist without prejudice and discrimination, while doing exactly that in return. You can’t get respect without giving it, to be understood is to be able ti understand. I don’t diminish men as being one type of guy. But I don’t feel that’s often a favour returned. Also, a lot of the claims are so confidently stated as societal issues when there’s no sign of exploring this outside of their own perceived experience. It…
/r/MensRights02/03/24 03:38 PM
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Because you are fighting for the thing you are fighting against, it’s baseless. Dig a bit deeper into the narrative. No one is trying to take from anyone, everyone is just trying to be left alone
/r/MensRights02/03/24 03:29 PM
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God it must be so unfair to feel held to a stereotype based on your gender. To feel restricted to the bounds of certain characteristics that restrict you to exist equally in this world. I hope it doesn’t start threatening your job, your health and your safety
/r/MensRights02/03/24 02:19 PM
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Exactly, it’s time to move the conversation along. There will always be extremists in anything but they’re not the ones who we want to work with anyway
/r/MensRights27/02/24 07:54 PM
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Yeah it’s just not a helpful set up for where we’re at today. Pointing fingers and passing blame gets nowhere. I want men to live in a place that enables them to live as they are as much as I do for women. So instead of the competition why don’t we start offering each other the opportunity to listen and learn and validate the experiences of both and start changing them to be better and relevant to what we all need now
/r/MensRights27/02/24 07:14 PM
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It’s interesting to me to feel defensive if something if you’re not guilty of it. When people call out extreme feminism I’m like yah sure, but I don’t associate or identify as an extremist so I don’t need to defend it. Idk it’s just like such a distraction of a bigger problem
/r/MensRights27/02/24 07:01 PM
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Not to undermine your perspective, but ti historically asses the accuracy. Patriarchy was established during 8000-3000 BC and feminism was established in 1848. The origins of patriarchy in the West are generally traced to Mesopotamia, or the fertile crescent. By 4000BC, men in Sumer – today southern Iraq – had claimed naming and ownership rights over children, and were gaining control over women’s bodies in turn.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:19 PM
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Okay sorry, then just as a man (without it being about feminism or women)
/r/MensRights27/02/24 05:44 PM
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Thank you for sharing. And is there any negative impacts on you that you associate to the patriarchy
/r/MensRights27/02/24 05:29 PM
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Can you tell me how this impacts you in your day to day experience? Again, said without agenda and only in the interest of understanding
/r/MensRights27/02/24 04:43 PM
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Anyone associating people who offer kindness as a sign of weakness are in the most need of compliments. And calling someone gay as an insult is kind of embarrassing for them. It’s all deflection, treat people with kindness always and the people who fight it need it the most. Imagine how empty it must be to define your character around preset expectations, you do you.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 11:14 AM
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So if I interpret you want to protect the credibility of data research? Sorry I’m putting you in the hot seat, but my agenda is to gain a better understanding of men’s personal experience. I appreciate it is probably personal but I’m really looking to understand. Like what is it about this that impacts you. No right or wrong answer and no judgement, I’m really interested in hearing about your personal experiences
/r/MensRights27/02/24 08:52 AM
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No sorry not information or facts but your perceived experience
/r/MensRights27/02/24 08:41 AM
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Thanks. I’m really not trying to change your opinion or influence you to a side. I’m genuinely interested in the discussion and exploring people’s experiences. Like genuinely I’m intrigued to know how this impacts you. To be received in Ernest and without judgement or combat
/r/MensRights27/02/24 08:38 AM
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What does this look like for you? Again genuinely interested to know
/r/MensRights27/02/24 08:30 AM
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I think there’s a bit of missing research here as this isn’t a new issue that’s been recently uncovered but perhaps it is for you. I request you read my message again and see if you can challenge your approach. To bash and blame is a situation where you’re pointing a finger to hold the impact but you’ve got 3 loaded ones pointing back at you. I’m not undermining your need to defend yourself but i challenge you to make sure you’re up to scratch on the history as it might help and that you ask you…
/r/MensRights27/02/24 07:52 AM
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And my question is who benefits from weaponising these words? I think people don’t want to feel accountable for something they don’t identify as and feel the need to fight for what they want to identify as. Gender stereotypes benefit no one, both sides want to feel heard and respected and ping ponging feminism vs patriarchy is clearly not working. What if we get rid of those words and accept that no one wins this fight. The issues women face matter as much as the issues men face. But the issues …
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:49 AM
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It really is simple aye, to give respect you need to receive respect so let’s just do that
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:31 AM
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I mean my ideal outcome would be we revoke the emphasis of gender expectations and that we can accept both sides are impacted in different ways thar don’t really benefit us. But both sides should offer respect and understanding. It’s important to respect the vocab but it’s become so misinterpreted and often weaponised or distracting. We don’t benefit from comparing and competing for being the worst off or the most important. We just need to be fair
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:28 AM
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Because it was a system originally developed by a group of men to maintain a service that worked exclusively for them. But it is only an issue if it’s reconstituted. The word patriarchy is loaded and causes men to feel defensive and responsible. I’d be curious to know where you think it works avd where it doesn’t, I don’t think it’s of any benefit for any of us tbh
/r/MensRights27/02/24 06:22 AM
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The way I see it, patriarchy and men are separate things. Patriarchy is a system, admittedly set up by men but the relevance of the structure doesn’t really serve men in todays world anyway. I’d like to see acknowledgment of the patriarchy as a separate discussion from men. I think if we all recognise that patriarchy only serves a select group and enforces negative restrictions on everyone else the discussion might feel less loaded.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 01:33 AM
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Yes I totally understand this. I like the anonymity of this app. I think it opens people up in a way where I wouldn’t get in real life. But we all have our boundaries so hold yours x
/r/MensRights24/02/24 05:41 AM
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I understand that. But for me on this app I find it really beneficial to lead with an open mind to facilitate an interaction where I can give someone a space to share. I think strong opinions like this always build up from something, I have my views but those can exist while sharing a space too. But of course, there is only value in the discussion where respect is offered for both parties
/r/MensRights24/02/24 05:36 AM
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Oh this is quite an extreme perspective. I can understand not wanting to feed into extremism. But this post is quite strong on holding one thing over the other. What’s your desired outcome? Please know I’m not trying to antagonise you at all, just trying to understand x
/r/MensRights24/02/24 04:36 AM
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Oh interesting, I think I can understand this from a social or stereotypes perspective but I’m not sure of the legal implications. I’d be keen to hear more
/r/MensRights16/02/24 10:38 PM
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This may feel like a bit of a cop out, but I’m trying to offer understanding to the prejudices between what both genders are fighting against and to protect. I work for a men’s mental health charity. So I’m avoiding approaching anything with any form of opinion and in the interest of better understanding what this looks like. I basically want to reevaluate what the approach to equality looks like and creating spaces where people can share without judgement
/r/MensRights16/02/24 09:04 AM
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Sorry I think I’m not down with the terms, but I’m curious what kind of rights it is that you’re seeking? Again, really not in an antagonising way
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:34 AM
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Sorry mate, didn’t mean that as an attack or response to you but just my thoughts. I’m keen to understand your thoughts and what kind of space you’re looking for in establishing men’s rights. Sorry if I’m not explaining myself properly, I’m not looking to judge or accuse, but to get a perspective
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:12 AM
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Ah dude, I promise I share this with total Openness to your post. I hope I’m not putting words in your mouth, so do call me out if I am. Sounds like you’re really struggling to find a space to feel heard and validated. In all Ernest, I’d love the opportunity to give you the space. I really don’t support weaponising gender as a tool against each other, the gender expectations and comparisons are so reductive and only pin people into feeling defensive. And I totally give this full credit to both s…
/r/MensRights16/02/24 07:41 AM
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Thanks for the discussion and for sharing your opinion respectfully. It’s a hard topic to discuss and I really want to engage fairly. It may seem obvious to you, but I often bear a few brutal insults along the way on this app in such discussions. I’m sort of taking away a reflection on language from this, I can see the way words are used are so weaponised, patriarchy being one. Interesting to see how it all develops. My intention is always to offer understanding and to listen. Thanks for offerin…
/r/MensRights16/02/24 05:51 AM
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The sentiment I’m iterating is more around the damaging expectations that both genders experience. I understand words like “feminism” “masculinity” “patriarchy” are actually distracting now and ultimately don’t bear any weight in their intended definitions. Which, fine, it means things a progressing to a place that makes these words seem redundant. I just challenge the idea of gender expectations and the negative impact that can put on individuals. So to stamp this with an opinion, anyone who ex…
/r/MensRights16/02/24 03:13 AM
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I think in your statement we can agree that progress has definitely been made. I also think it’s important to understand that feminism is about fighting for equality for ALL genders. In my opinion anyway. If the message feels like it’s about one getting more then the other, then I believe the intent of feminism is being confused for power. I see it as a way to fight against gender stereotypes that are harmful on both sides. I don’t think it’s about one or the other. But about understanding that …
/r/MensRights16/02/24 02:24 AM
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If you think so x
/r/MensRights13/02/24 02:24 AM
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Are they?
/r/MensRights13/02/24 12:46 AM
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Obviously these things exist within both genders sadly. Patriarchy becomes a loaded gun when it gets used to separate gender. In my understanding, the patriarchy serves very few people in our world
/r/MensRights13/02/24 12:37 AM
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It sounds like you’ve had to overcome a lot. It isn’t a fair card to be dealt and I’m honestly sorry this is how life has played out for you. You’re obviously someone who has had to overcome a lot and had to fight their own way in this world. You’re clearly a strong character and I absolutely offer you respect and empathy for what you’ve been through, it’s not fair. I hear your view x
/r/MensRights12/02/24 10:15 PM
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I think if this is something you’re feeling passionate about that you could do some of your own research. The space you’re creating here is hostile and I think quite unfair, again, have your opinion but don’t assume I’m here to diminish anyone
/r/MensRights12/02/24 10:01 PM
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I actually work for a men’s mental health charity with a degree in psychology. I care a whole lot. So I’m not speaking on this as a conspiracy but a study and something I have a degree in. But I’m not here to prove myself right and anyone else wrong. I’m not trying to bash anyone at all, so please consider that in your way of communicating as I really don’t want to fall on name calling or being dismissive of views. I think if you disagree, that’s absolutely fine. But just remember you’re speakin…
/r/MensRights12/02/24 09:55 PM
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That’s patriarchy, not gender. Saying this with the utmost respect to the pressure you must face under this.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 06:45 PM
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This as a personal experience I can connect to and offer empathy. That honestly sounds awful. I hope they’re doing better now x
/r/MensRights12/02/24 06:38 PM
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Tell us more!
/r/MensRights12/02/24 06:36 PM
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I guess why do you feel the need to find validation in this situation at all?
/r/MensRights12/02/24 04:12 PM
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Imagine being the reason though
/r/MensRights12/02/24 04:02 PM
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What should they do instead to make you feel better about yourself hunny?
/r/MensRights12/02/24 04:01 PM
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You’re a normal person here
/r/MensRights12/02/24 04:00 PM
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Slay
/r/MensRights12/02/24 03:59 PM
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There’s a world outside of America
/r/MensRights12/02/24 03:59 PM
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Serious question, have you ever met a woman? Or is it just something you’ve heard about online? This is absolute sacrilege and gender entitlement to the extreme. Women aren’t your issue. I promise you that, you are. And I say this to only offer you truth, you need therapy. If you need a maid or a mummy, then a relationship is not what you’re after. And your legal assessment is also completely misguided. That isn’t how the legal divide develops
/r/MensRights12/02/24 03:56 PM
1

Yes I absolutely agree, I would say my partner and I are in a heterosexual relationship and almost none of our issues are gender related but about us as individuals
/r/MensRights12/02/24 02:19 AM
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I think it’s a wonderful thing to apply critical thinking around mental health and of course the subtext that leads a person to such things. It’s a hard discussion when gender gets involved and often diminishes the facts of a circumstance. So it’s good you have this ability
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:51 AM
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I’m a woman who works for a men’s mental health charity and asked a similar question in this space. I’m so encouraged by the comments on this, my intention in entering this space is to do so respectfully and in a way that offers everyone freedom to express their experiences. I didn’t receive the same positive response, but im so happy to see it here x
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:32 AM
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I’m so happy to see this
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:30 AM
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This is so encouraging x
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:29 AM
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Do you know a space that we can? I’m also very curious in the sense to understand the difference better
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:29 AM
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Thank you for changing your approach. I’m a bit disheartened for discourse now as I really was coming in from an open perspective. I just hope you carry this energy forward in your interactions going forward. I’m not looking to point fingers or hurt anyone but looking to listen and learn x
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:08 AM
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Apology appreciated. I hope you’re all good, I just think we can all interact without shots flying ya know
/r/MensRights04/02/24 04:20 PM
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Please consider I’m a person receiving this
/r/MensRights03/02/24 07:06 PM
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What is your interpretation of the female gaze and the male gaze? And what is the impact of both?
/r/MensRights28/01/24 07:45 AM
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Sorry to feed into the narrative. I’m a woman but I’m mostly only engaging in content on this subreddit to firstly listen and understand. I work for a men’s mental health charity, so I find a lot of the posts really valuable insight and helpful to better understand the men I am working to support. I also hope to offer compassion to those feeling attacked or threatened by gender stereotypes.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 07:29 AM
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I offer this with sincerely no judgment whatsoever. I appreciate your experience. I’m a woman and I work for a men’s mental health charity. Can you please expand on this in terms of impact on yourself? And a more challenging question, what is your understanding of women’s experiences?
/r/MensRights28/01/24 05:47 AM
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Incredible stats! I had no idea I was all these things! Thank for telling us all who we are based on your own personal experiences
/r/MensRights24/01/24 10:48 AM
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Was just looking to facilitate a conversation where both opinions are respected. I’m not looking to be right or wrong here or come out and change your mind.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:43 AM
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We are all entitled to our independence. I don’t know any women complaining myself. Sorry if this has been your experience, it’s not one known to me.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:41 AM
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I’m trying to do so here, I’m interested in what you think but it’s hard to get that with a hostile response. I’m actively opening the space for you to share.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:37 AM
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I’m open to discuss, finding it difficult to navigate at the moment. What can I do to facilitate a more open narrative in which we can share opinions without judgement?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:24 AM
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I understand. I think money is complicated and divisive if used as a weapon or held over someone in a relationship. In my experience, gender is removed from this, anyone willing to exploit or control someone with money is an abuser.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:24 AM
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I’m not here to argue, but offer a different perspective. I’m not interested in name calling or shaming. I asked your opinion, I provided a response.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:12 AM
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Yes, making generalised statements and groupings are harmful and ineffective, I agree.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:08 AM
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I earn my money from my job, my partner earns his money from his job. I don’t understand what I’m taking here?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:05 AM
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I think she just talked to him?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 05:03 AM
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I think you’ve misjudged the situation here. If it’s not a fuck yes, it’s a fuck no.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:57 AM
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I’m sorry this happened to you and is classified as rape
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:54 AM
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Is this a blanket term or a personal experience with a woman?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:49 AM
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I haven’t experienced this, could you expand?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:48 AM
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As a woman, I have always earned more than my partners. Neither of us place our relationship on our income and ensure we contribute to experiences affordable to us both. No one in a healthy relationship should be seeking control.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:46 AM
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If you could offer a sincere version of what you think is a real response of this for women, what would that look like?
/r/MensRights24/01/24 03:01 AM
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There’s no changing history and it’s not men’s fault or blame for the way things are. I’m a woman and I have had beneficial medical support but also really negative experiences based on the lack of resources applied to women’s bodies. A good place to start is to ask the women you know how it impacts them. If information is your agenda, then your understanding will come in asking and listening. But don’t feel like it’s ever about you, it’s not, it’s a structure and a system. That needs to change,…
/r/MensRights23/01/24 03:19 AM
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It’s too simple to say that sharing emotions is a resolution. It is difficult to feel attacked and then respond with understanding. What would be an approach that would be beneficial for you?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 03:14 AM
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Commenting or judging anyone on physical appearance is not feminist behaviour and anyone who thinks they can call out men’s bodies as a feminist action is completely misguided and wrong. Physical shaming is bottom of the barrel and only a reflection of the person projecting it. I’m a 5’3 small girl, so height isn’t ever really something I think about in dating, I’ve even dated men shorter than me. But their height doesn’t define any value over character and how to be a good or appealing person
/r/MensRights23/01/24 03:10 AM
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Interesting perspective and I get where you’re coming from. Completely removing women, what about the patriarchy benefits you? And what about it hinders you? As an observer it sounds like you are looking to protect what’s fair in terms of rules on both sides. Is there something specifically you feel is disadvantaging you?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 03:03 AM
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I think I can see your argument and feeling like the narrative presents as hypocritical. My opinion is the context comes from different perspectives and experiences a lot of the time. Sex has deep rooted oppression and weaponised behaviour associated to it. Women have been subjected to this being used against them. It’s about thinking beyond your experience and what’s happening in front of you. Why do you feel such a double standard? What is being taken from you here? (Not a beef fyi, genuine qu…
/r/MensRights23/01/24 03:01 AM
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