Dune587 Archive

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-1	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling I drove trucks for over a decade. That was basically your entire counter argument, right? That I’ve never ACKSHUALLY done any hard work, either? Well, I have. What now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:43 PM
0	Sugar daddy relationships are closer to how marriages were historically That shits easy, lol. Try driving trucks, farming, power line repair, fishing, mining, etc. I’ll say that nurses can be decently hard workers though, but they blow it way out of proportion, especially considering how much money they can make.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:42 PM
-2	Sugar daddy relationships are closer to how marriages were historically Doing easy jobs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:34 PM
1	CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below…. Sure that makes sense but, it’s also that women put zero effort into finding a “desirable partner”. In fact I’d guess that many modern career oriented women don’t even care to do so. This generation is learning that women apparently never genuinely enjoyed romantic relationships with men, because the second they don’t HAVE to pursue them for financial reasons, they don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:32 PM
1	CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below…. I agree and I think the force behind what you’re discussing applies to a lot of areas of life in modern society. In video games there’s a term called “minmaxing” which is basically when someone utilizes perfect strategy to get the most potential out of the game. On paper this sounds like a smart thing to do but in reality it creates a sub culture of just absolute insanity that defeats the core purpose of a video game: to have fun. Well, I think a lot of people are “minmaxing” reality these days.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:27 PM
-2	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Caring for the children or elderly? If you’re opting out of marriage/child rearing then who’s family are you caring for, exactly? Women doing the heavy lifting of society, lmao. That’s a good one. You already admitted men do all the real work, you just tried to hand wave it away by saying they get paid. But that’s not a relevant point because whether men get paid or not they’re still the ones doing all the shit that society needs to last more than the next five hours. And women are getting a fre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:07 PM
1	I frequently see various men complain about women supposedly being "hypergamous," but aren't the qualities they are said to require in a man also key features of traditional masculinity? I think you’re completely correct however, a lot of aspects of society were established (whether intentionally or unintentionally I’m not sure) to mitigate the runaway effects this can have on people, namely every woman competing for the absolute top quality men and completely ignoring most other men. Generally speaking, modern industrialized society thrived when women didn’t work very much and marriage/fidelity was strictly socially, religiously, and even legally enforced. This meant that men a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:58 PM
0	Bullying women to lower their standards I don’t think anyone has issues with a woman who is honest and upfront about not wanting to be in a relationship. In fact I doubt most men would even interact with or know about such a woman. But there are plenty of women who constantly complaining about not being able to find a relationship or more commonly they can’t “find a good man”. Those women need to reevaluate their standards because usually they’re extremely delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:49 PM
4	Sugar daddy relationships are closer to how marriages were historically Yeah but now if women have to spend ten mins loading a laundry machine or dropping their kids off at school they cry that they’re oppressed and do all the work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:46 PM
-2	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Well assuming this isn’t satire, women’s rebellion from marriage/child rearing will likely have sweeping economic and social consequences in the future. Women like to think they’re stronk and independent but they still and likely always will rely on men to do a great deal of the heavy lifting in society. If/when most of those men are no longer able to find a romantic partner, they’re not going to want to bother working those jobs anymore (men are happier in relationships than not). We’re in a tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:39 PM
5	There are good reasons why birthrates are falling Generally most liberalized countries have low domestic birth rates and are starting to rely on immigration to support their population. USA for example will soon rely exclusively on immigration for any population growth. But many of those immigrants aren’t coming from feminist countries. So one good thing about modern day liberalism/feminism is it’s a self-correcting problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:33 PM
7	If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied? Women have very low participation in the industries that keep all of society afloat (energy, agriculture, logistics, national defence, etc). We’ve effectively built a first world bubble economy full of fake, woman-centric work like HR managers or other cushy office jobs that give women the impression of being self sustaining and independent, on top of the backs of men who still do all the real work of society. To be fair a massive subset of the male population also benefits from this cushy bubbl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 04:41 PM
0	Why do Childfree women bother so many men? Don’t know about China but Korea and Japan are also highly feminized in a similar sense. Most developed countries have shifted away from the traditional model, opting to suicide their demographics so women can do whatever nonsense they want to do instead of sustain their population. As for your other assertions, likewise people that don’t care about having kids still want their countries economies padded by endless immigration, which is only possible because poor conservative countries are expor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 03:04 AM
1	Since the dawn of time women were berated for being promiscuous. But I never understood why. There’s plenty of people still having kids and the population will continue to grow. It’s just liberal white women who have decided to opt out, which I guess is kinda funny since they’ll be replaced by religious/conservative foreigners from Africa and Asia. Guess feminism was a self-solving problem in the long run.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:27 PM
1	Why do Childfree women bother so many men? For me I’m not exactly against childlessness but I’m definitely against the insane levels of narcissism that tends to accompany it. The USA will soon rely on immigration to sustain its population entirely. That means poor people from conservative countries where the women can’t do anything but make babies have to export people to sustain our population and our economy, so a bunch of yuppie white women can pursue whatever nonsense materialistic or hedonistic goals they have vs having children and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:24 PM
1	Which relationship is more likely to work out, a conservative man and a liberal woman, or a liberal man and a conservative woman? In my experience conservative man with liberal woman is possible to work, if both are moderates. I’m a moderate conservative, I’ve dated moderate liberals in the past. It’s hard for a moderate liberal woman to pass on a “conservative” man when they’re attractive in most valuable ways. Only diehard Reddit-tier weirdos would let politics get in the way of an otherwise great relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:20 PM
1	Since the dawn of time women were berated for being promiscuous. But I never understood why. Doubt. The least feminist countries have the highest birthrates. Most of the countries with plenty of female rights/equality have low birth rates. When women can choose they simply do not choose to have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:11 PM
2	Why don’t men just do what women do? Men do do a lot of that stuff, you won’t really tell from external appearances which men are like that. I’m probably essentially a man like that. Inside and anonymously like here on Reddit I’m depressed and angry and basically just a doomer. But in real life and especially in public I’m pretty outgoing, I exercise, play sports, travel a bit, do well at work, etc. The problem is while all of that stuff is good nothing really fills the void left by a lack of a good relationship. Statistically men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 08:31 PM
1	Since the dawn of time women were berated for being promiscuous. But I never understood why. Welp, there’s a strong positive correlation between modern feminist cultures and negative birth rates. I can’t exactly explain all the cause and effect but I’d suspect a lot of traditional/conservative social values were intended to prevent a culture from suiciding itself. They couldn’t just mass import a million foreigners to compensate for their own people not having kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 08:18 PM
2	WHY do I have to self improve just to get what others do naturally???????? Yeah. Ah well, maybe we can be the ones who worked hard for it then buy our kids a home. Haha nah doubt it 😔	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 08:15 PM
1	Key to Male Dating Success It depends on how far you take not caring. If you don’t care to the point where you don’t even leave your house to talk to women that would definitely be bad. I just mean not care more in the sense where you’re not concerned with outcomes. If I talk to a girl these days I’m not even considering the possibility of sleeping with her or dating her, it’s not something I’m worried about. That often translates to confidence or aloofness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 05:34 AM
3	Key to Male Dating Success The best way to act better than is to just not give a fuck. Go talk to the hottest girl in the room and make some jokes. Who cares? One thing I’ve noticed is women’s interest in you at any given moment is 99.9% luck. She might be in a mood where Brad Pitt could show up and she could tell him to fuck off, or she could be in a mood where she hates her dad or ex bf and would fuck any human male with an attached and somewhat functioning penis. And everything inbetween. The less effort spent giving a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 05:29 AM
9	WHY do I have to self improve just to get what others do naturally???????? That’s life. Another example: some people have extreme natural talent and aptitude, other people can work hard their whole lives and never achieve what that person can without trying. The universe doesn’t have the capacity to care who gets what advantage or why. It just is the way it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 05:24 AM
–	If you could design a dating app, how would it work? Indeed. Maybe there could be some leeway, for example you can “match” with multiple people and communicate with them initially just to get a feel for first impressions but, your matches all expire within 1-3 days or something. Within that timeframe if you want to lock in a match you can, and if they do it too, it unmatches the rest and leaves you locked in with your match until one of you bails. When you’re in this locked in phase you’ll have full access to each other’s profiles and the app will…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:29 AM
1	Men: how do you feel about yourself? What do you think of yourself? Interesting question. I think I’ve accumulated a good amount of interesting life experience and skills, I’m financially well off. But, I’m in my 30s now and I feel like my body has aged 20 years in the past 5 years. I feel well past my physical prime, have a really tough time staying in decent shape, and even when I exercise or play sports, I just am sore as fuck all the time or get injured. So, generally I reminisce about the days where I was in my physical prime and generally enjoyed life a lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:24 AM
1	What's up with certain girls who pull away when you start being nice to them. But then when you give up and ignore them they turn all affectionate and lovey. What is going on in their head? How do I make sense of this? It’s because a man who ignores a (presumably attractive) woman, comes off like they’ve got so much going for them in life that they’re not really too concerned about impressing this woman. This in turn catches her attention and if she’s interested/attracted enough, she’ll start chasing him. On the flip side if a man is too head over heels for the girl it makes him seem desperate and that he has too little going on in his life that he needs this girl to feel better or give value/meaning to his li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:19 AM
–	If you could design a dating app, how would it work? A match should lock you in with the other person until one of you unmatches. A big problem with dating apps is the Netflix effect where there’s too many options and it makes it psychologically harder to choose one or stick with one. One of the best relationships I had off dating apps was a girl I met on Hinge who said when she matches with someone she’s into she pauses her account and plays it out before trying to match with other people. I believed her too, the time she spent with me and talkin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:15 AM
2	How do red pillers explain the average guy being in a relationship? Not that I’m overly “Red Pill” but, personally I’d say it’s a combo of lower standards + survivorship bias. Low standards in the sense that many men will get in ANY relationship even if it’s unhealthy/one sided, and/or with an unattractive woman, because they think that beats loneliness. The non-fuckboi element of Red Pill is interested in finding good, attractive, loyal women, not the bottom of the barrel. And survivorship bias in the sense that sure you can go outside and see tons of men in re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 04:12 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread The hard reality is that no one genuinely gives a shit about anyone. People only pretend to care about other people and usually only if they’re in some political special interest group that they can leverage for social credit points or some other benefit. I’ve witnessed it countless times, how all these self-described “empathetic” people conveniently only give a shot about special interest groups or attractive women or whatever. It’s all a scam. Women just want you to be weak and depressed, you’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 05:15 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread constantly kicks men when they’re down “Why are men getting angry and upset at society?!!?!?!??”	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 05:09 AM
–	Q4W : Why is a guy being short not unattractive but a guy being insecure about being short unattractive? Women don’t want to publicly admit they aren’t attracted to short guys or bald guys because that would make them come off vain or judgemental, so they pretend it’s about “insecurity”. Women always make sure to be saying and doing things that are socially or politically acceptable, else they risk losing their standing in whatever social in-group they rely on. Men are more likely to speak their mind or buck trends because men can actually handle being ostracized without wanting to commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 05:06 AM
1	the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today. It’s just par for the course these days. Dating the average woman now is like how you need a PHD and 10 years of experience to get a part time job at McDonalds. Everything is massively skewed and disproportionate, and soon it won’t even be worth the effort at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 05:00 AM
1	Do people really think this is reasonable? So the dude’s wife beta bux’s him gets two kids out of him then goes cold in the bedroom, he gets frustrated (understandably), she acts like the innocent victim even though she’s probably manipulative and emotionally toxic to the man, making him feel unattractive and inadequate, and then finally she just abandons the marriage to go fuck some new guy who I’d be willing to bet is younger and/or far more physically attractive than her first husband. Actually nah the guy’s probably just an evil bad …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:59 AM
2	Today society is PERFECT for men All that shit just funnels women to the top tier of men. The tradcon crap had a purpose in making it less likely that women would only chase top tier men, it basically forced women to choose local men in their league because monogamy was very strictly socially and religiously enforced and women couldn’t afford social or political stigma since they tended to rely on men for their livelihood. I’m not saying that was necessarily “better”, but hookup culture and social media is absolutely far worse …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:50 AM
1	Men don't actually love women, especially when sex isn't involved. This is just socially destructive doomer garbage. Of course men love women, often unconditionally. Men even care about women unconditionally that they don’t even know or are in relationships with which is while they’ll do crazy shit like run into burning buildings trying to save them or white knight for some random woman, etc. Women, children, and animals are all valued and loved unconditionally. It’s men that are purely disposable. Men have to prove their worth to women in various ways to even …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:47 AM
1	Why do you think so many women are sexually attracted to K-pop male stars ? Maybe because the pretty boy look is still objectively physically attractive in the sense that they tend to have good hair, are physically fit, have smooth, clear skin, and symmetrical facial features. On top of that they’re popular, fun, and successful. I’d say on average more women probably prefer traditionally masculine men over pretty boys but obviously pretty boys and especially very successful pretty boys are going to have a lot of success with women too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:41 AM
1	Why do you think so many women are sexually attracted to K-pop male stars ? Remind me how many world kickboxing championships David Bowie has won?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:37 AM
1	At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice? Improving yourself is always good life advice but it’s terrible “success with women” advice. There will always be a woman out there who just dunks on your efforts and diminishes your achievements and chooses some other guy and that will crush your self esteem. You should be improving yourself for yourself and just let the right woman who values you and what you do come into your life, don’t go around trying to impress women it’s always a losing game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:33 AM
3	How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies? I think this is a bit of a terminally online question. The vast majority of men and women in relationships are “boring” in the sense that they have normal lives, no incredible or unique abilities, and are basically just regular people. Imagine if every single man you see who has a gf was some high octane suave badass who sails around the world, climbs mountains, is a great improv comedian, etc. It’s a nonsense expectation set by fake social media content that depicts people’s lives as way more i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 04:26 AM
–	Why do so many men not seem to care whether women actually enjoy sex? Not “all men”. Most men aren’t fuckbois. Most men aren’t having one night stands frequently if at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/23 02:12 AM
1	Why do so many men not seem to care whether women actually enjoy sex? Yes, it’s very weird that your individual experience and ideas aren’t the norm for billions of other people. Totally out there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 01:53 AM
2	Why do so many men not seem to care whether women actually enjoy sex? Well in the case of some random fling or one night stand, it’s laughable to me to believe that a fuckboi is going to give a big shit about a woman he’s using as a fleshlight for an hour then never seeing again. For men in actual relationships? Can’t really speak to that. I’ve always cared if my past gfs enjoyed sex but, I’ve also noticed that their enjoyment of sex tended to revolve less around my skill or how much I “cared”, and more their desire and ability to simply communicate what they like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 08:57 PM
–	How are men supposed to meet women? Hahaha dunno if you’re a real woman but this comment is based. Most women will give the “correct” response to a question (based on dominant social trends and political correctness) publicly, regardless of what they’d actually do in private.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 07:41 PM
–	How are men supposed to meet women? Most women aren’t redditors. Approaching a woman and being assertive, even encroaching on being pushy (I don’t recommend being genuinely pushy/aggressive but you can push the boundary) is very successful. Not every woman is some ultra strong willed Uber feminist looking for any opportunity to tell a man to fuck off. A lot of women respond to confidence, assertiveness, and even being told what to do (in a charming/funny manner though not some raging control freak manner) in a very positive way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 07:36 PM
0	Why is the sub have at least some men telling women what they are attracted to? Welp nobody gets in a car thinking, “I’m going to make a huge blunder and crash my car, injuring or killing someone!” And yet it happens every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 01:38 AM
1	Are men making their best offer? The fact that contraception and emancipation resulted in women getting married and having kids far less than in the past illustrates that a lot of women never really wanted those things in the first place and were just forced into them. Idk how you can expect to appeal to or “offer” something to women like that. Imo the best thing a man can do is try to find a woman who is genuinely passionate about traditional values and family. Their standards will be reasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:22 AM
8	Is there truly someone for everyone? Theoretically? Absolutely. Of the billions of humans on earth there’s got to be at least one person out there who’s a perfect match for you. In reality? No. 25% of men never get married. Of the remaining 75% who knows how many are in bad relationships or just got married because they got a girl pregnant. Your chances of actually meeting the perfect woman aren’t zero but they’re not very high either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:01 AM