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Yes homo sapiens has been pair bonding for a long time, and yes you have more female ancestors than male ancestors. The article actually argues against patrilocality, and here's another one to support my claim if you'd like, which is a mainstream position in science. https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/is-there-anything-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-questions/?_r=0
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:52 PM
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040920063537.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:28 PM
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This is not 'the reason behind hypergamy'. It's related to bateman's principle and the males as competitors. Anisogamic males infer greater variability in reproductive success and as a result vary more than females in all traits. Historically, most males fail to find a mate, whilst most females do not. Therefore any given offspring statistically expects their father to be of above average genetic quality in the male gene pool, whilst their mother to be average, and will be best served by express…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:09 PM
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So, seeing as how men do the vast majority of approaching, it goes to reason that men should be paying for formal dinner dates. How convenient for you. Get used to paying pariah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:05 PM
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the 21st century woman who thinks she is entitled to her husband's labour is the same as 1930s man who thinks he is entitled to his wife's body. Society will look back on opinions like yours with disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:03 PM
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Do you honestly think having children doesn't have an impact on your work performance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:13 AM
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Well part of what enables the blue pill mindset is being able to shift all responsibility for bad things to the eternal boogeyman - misogynist men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:20 AM
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That sounds infinitely better than the treatment incel guys would get lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:07 AM
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I'm aware of why... But this is why it doesn't really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 08:05 AM
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No democracy isn't a political movement. Case in point, the democratic party isn't democratic. Democratic party members who tried to play word games to claim ''the democratic party IS about democracy by definition' would be laughed at, as we should laugh at feminists. Read the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 01:09 PM
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No democracy is an idea whereas feminism is a political movement. The correct analogy would be like defining republicanism as pro-black and then claiming that republicans are egalitarian in the face of any and all evidence. You could make support this fallacy the same way feminists support theirs, previously feminism won votes for women and previously republicans won freedom for blacks and you can use this to obscure the reality that past events in no way represent the goals of the respective mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 01:00 PM
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So people in Uganda who say that they have a democracy are lying. Feminism is a political movement, as such it's defined by the sum total of the actions taken in the name of feminism - which are decidedly un-egalitarian. Hence, feminism is not about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 12:49 PM
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Women primarily care about status. Which is why going 'look at [insert famous person] who has your physical drawback!' is always pretty meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 12:23 PM
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Feminism is about gender equality in the same way Democracy is about popular rule in a country like Uganda. They hold elections, they define the country as being democratic and beholden to the will of the people. But the elections are always rigged and everyone knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 12:20 PM
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You must be living in some alternate reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 12:18 PM
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You've not made an argument for this. Convince me that burning fossil fuels is having a direct impact on men's ability to get laid now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 11:52 AM
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"That 11 year old was sure lucky". You're right, but this is a blue pill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 11:45 AM
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"The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 11:40 AM
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You should read the myth of male power. You keep repeating your belief that 'feminism is about equality' and no amount of contrary evidence from people here seems to have any impact on you. You're either here to let off steam and rant about the frustration in your life, or you genuinely want to understand and come to an agreement between the sexes. If it's the latter you need to start considering other people's points of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 11:37 AM
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This is like saying quantum mechanics 'purports' to be a scientific theory but has nothing to say on climate change aha gotcha. ?? But seeing as you want to know: in my opinion yes climate change is a real issue, and in general people are spending less of their time thinking about it because it's an issue waiting to happen whereas the gender war is happening right now. The only real effort that anyone's doing to combat climate change is developing renewable energy, namely solar. In that respect …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 11:22 AM
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I think there's a kind of sexism common in girls where they just assume that sex should mean a relationship if they want one, but are of course all too happy to accept the offer of casual sex when they want it. To me, this is a bit like guys who think "you owe me sex because I took you on a date". If I didn't make any implications as to commitment and you just assumed it, you fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:13 AM
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used almost exclusively by low value men, I would not be interested in that man. I think it's actually bimodal - low value men and very high value men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:34 AM
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those guys who are using girls for hookups aren't just out to use girls for hookups; they just didn't view that particular girl as relationship material but still wanted to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:33 AM
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I don't think lying about commitment is very common. Guys just stay silent on the issue and dodge the question a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:31 AM
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You'd think all of those things about your dog and most people are pretty nice to their dog. Red pill framework establishes a state of mind which elicits behaviour which women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:14 AM
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You have no fucking idea how red pill men treat women outside of the bedroom you're on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:08 PM
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Johnny says the sky is blue and Jane says it's green so we make a compromise. Women have unrealistic standards. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:06 PM
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False equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:48 PM
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stop putting words in peoples mouth. This thread is why people hate feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:44 PM
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If women were like 'I'd rather be the 20th concubine in Chad's harem rather than being with a beta bucker', they shouldn't be pressured into silencing how they really feel. They absolutely should, the whole point is that this doesn't build a stable society - the cornerstone of good morals. Men are shamed when they disregard women on their level. Old & Obese guys who right off old and obese women are shamed. You don't see it so much because it's only women who refuse to consider their equals as p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:38 PM
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It's been shown that teachers do favour girls for otherwise identical submissions. Not sure why you're bringing up 1907 as girls outperforming boys at school is a very new phenomenon, certainly in maths. Spelke argued after the Larry Summers affair that men didn't outperform women for tests administered in college and these should serve as a better metric than e.g. the SAT (which exists to predict college grades after all) Unfortunately there's a huge selection bias, as before college you make e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:30 AM
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Doctor's need some handle on statistics, and both benefit some from logic which is really mathematics. But yeah, those professions require less male traits and so are less male. I kinda just think the school system is heavily feminized and engineered to produce better female grades. Once you go from high school to college overnight the male attainment advantage in mathematics jumps back in. I'm not sure how else you're going to be judging math ability outside of standardised tests except some fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:12 AM
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On it's own, perhaps not. But when you factor in male tendency to work longer hours, for more of their life, study more technical subjects and a greater aptitude for mathematics you start to expect quite a large differential.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:59 AM
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Consent workshops advocate 'affirmative consent' standards which enables false rape reports and are designed to catch out guys who've done nothing wrong. They also push the alcohol precludes consent model which is sexist on many fronts: treating women as children with no agency over their decisions, and a double standard for men who also consented to sex whilst drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:44 PM
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Which is exactly why it's propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:50 PM
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On average there's no discernible difference between the intellect of men and women. Men benefit (or suffer) from bateman's principle; which affects all anisogamic species where reproduction cost is asymmetric, whereby males have a much higher variance in almost all traits. Therefore as you deviate from the mean in either direction your sample size becomes more and more male -> You see many more male scientists, doctors, lawyers, because having selected away from the mean of the bell curve your …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:41 PM
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Consent workshops are a one-sided PC indoctrination session which highlights society's blatant disregard of the male viewpoint. They're sexist and promote prejudiced behaviour. But in a parallel universe somewhere they could be done better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:33 PM
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There's a lot of attractive female news anchors who were hired because they're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:32 PM
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Danny DeVito has the armour of humour. There's also generally a 'line' past which you stop making fun of people, Danny DeVito is too short and totally prepared to use it as a joke himself. It's also a lot to do with how they present and deal with it, not sure this is a male/female thing Most CEOs aren't really that much in the limelight in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:30 PM
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Alpha/Beta is a phenotype which is the combination of genetics/environment. It is entirely plausible for men and women to carry the same gene and have it express different behaviours in each.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:25 PM
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That's false and there have been many studies proving it. Think about it for a minute. The marriage is literally a contract and a ring. You're falling for the correlation/causation fallacy - people who decide to get married share traits which tend towards more stable families than those who decide not to, which should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:21 PM
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Yes Like any debilitating condition it's very easy to get caught in the psychological trap, whereby the negative effects of the condition compound by mediating your behaviour, to the point where over time in some situations the behaviour itself may be the larger portion of the issue than the condition. I think where this goes wrong is in the conclusion that it leads people to draw to that short guys have problems because short guys are insecure. The insecurity only happens because the detriments…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:45 AM
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Going to go slightly off topic here and trying not to be rude but want to pick your brains. Conventional advice to short guys is to seek out short women for partners. However, in my experience, shorter women are often much more vehemently obsessed with partner height than more average stature women. My immediate explanation is that it's a projection of their own insecurity about height. From the female perspective, do you think what I'm talking about is real? If so why do you think it exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:42 AM
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we think all of that about your ideology which is taught in schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:38 AM
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What do you do in real life when someone thinks you're a bitter loser? You just ignore them right? As long as you don't actually think they may have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:30 AM
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Some things that men see as male oppression are leftover checks in place from when women were more subjugated. For example, the idea that alimony always goes to the woman made sense in a time when women generally didn't work. Nowadays I actually think a woman can be made to pay alimony if she makes more money than the man. Either way, I don't think this should be gender-based. This is a history lesson which we all know. In no way is it an argument that these things don't constitute male oppressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:26 AM
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It's a good post. But all you've really done is rephrased how society favours women -> society empowers women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:15 AM
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Height was made a requirement based on women's preference. IE the take home message being all those other desirable qualities which are not enforced requirements (for example, IQ>110) are statistically less important to women than height > 5'10. The only way to test for relative desirability would be to make women decide between height and another trait. This is exactly the point, in that paradigm short donor sperm went unused to such a degree regardless of other beneficial attributes that banks…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:13 AM
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Those relationships are a strong minority as you well know. Marriage is only about legal standing and tax arrangements. If you are a family unit it makes no difference to the child whether you put a ring on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:25 PM
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None of this shit matters. Imagine if this were still the 1960s and we were discussing a case of spousal rape giving our various justifications for Johnny's actions. But none of it matters because spousal rape isn't against the law anyhow This is the CURRENT situation with divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:22 PM
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Actually against this because I think the stigma which keeps women from viewing exploiting men's sex drive as a viable career path is paramount.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:17 PM
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Sure it does. There's no requirement for a 110+ IQ to be a donor at a regular sperm bank based on demand, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:13 PM
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Most sperm banks don't take donations from men under 5"10 because "women won't pick them".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:57 PM
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You don't have to deal with shit temptation you're not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:48 PM
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You're being condescending about the ease of something you will never experience. You're that guy who makes light of childbirth rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:47 PM
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decide whether he thinks her behaviour is acceptable given the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:45 PM
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Most guys in healthy LTRs really don't want to cheat, it's just a fact of being a male that you can't turn off the animistic pull of strange pussy. Cheating in a relationship is an environment of sex for free, no commitment or resource costs expended for the man. Men are wired to take this deal every time, and the biological imperative to do so is strong. We're also wired to value sex with new partners more than long term partners. So yes, monogamy takes work for men. Whether or not he will 'res…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:21 AM
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The desire for beauty exists predominately because symmetry is a very strong indicator of genetic integrity. So unfortunately your hypothesis isn't right, but each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:11 AM
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I think everyone would be surprised to learn how much of a judgement on one's "personality" is derived from how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:59 AM
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This is the kind of hyperbole that stops us taking this shit seriously. Nobody outside the ghetto gets catcalled every day, and yet the overblown problem seems to be something middle class white men are expected to fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:58 AM
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I'd say women are hurt more often and tend to make more of a scene about it, but when you actually hurt a man it's probably cutting deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:56 AM
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well yeah height isn't the only piece of information women are given on candidate sperm donors so necessarily other factors are being overlooked as less important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:52 AM
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Men don't claim that they wouldn't... Did you read the thread? o.o
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:50 AM
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No hyperbole aside it's also hugely antagonistic and unproductive as it's more of an insult than a discussion. But none of those issues strike at the principle that talking about these things is somehow bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:42 AM
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Well every year some women do go to sperm banks, and of those women sufficiently few choose sperm from men of average or below height that banks don't even want to stock it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:40 AM
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The problem with telling white men to check their privilege is that white men don't have privilege not that pushing for equality is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:38 AM
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Most sperm banks don't take donations from men under 5"10 because "women won't pick them". So yeah Imma say all the women in this thread are a prime example of actions vs words
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:35 AM
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I like to think there's a difference between using instagram and obsessing over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:21 PM
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In the traditional environment, once a woman is accustomed to living for a man who goes out into the big wide world every day to bring home bacon she tends to end up finding him pretty attractive. The "men are not attractive to women" theme is based on physical appearance. Women do not find men's bodies physically attractive because in general they can convince one to have sex with them whenever they like and to do so incurs a cost. Thusly it is much more hardwired into their psychology to be sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 08:18 AM
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Women are not having fits about christmas cards or obsessing over shit they see on pinterest because of 'social pressures'. This is an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 08:09 AM
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This only translates to wanting women to be more masculine if your definition of masculine includes things like 'intelligent'... By all rights, this used to be our reality. Before women were inducted into society like men are (education, work life) they performed far below men on cognitive assessments. Anyone who's ever been with a partner who's not on your level will know how annoying that gets. They would also have relied much more heavily on their man for life & decision making, purely becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 08:07 AM
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This is the effect that the traditionalist approach to society was having. When men controlled resources and competed among themselves for mates women predominately selected based on male productivity, because they had to. Nowadays women are free to select as they choose, and the result is much closer to the selection criteria our foraging ancestors would've used. In all seriousness the period of selecting for productive cooperative males most likely ended around 50 years ago and we are now sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 07:59 AM
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Pretty sure tenfold wouldn't bring it on par with men and we managed to build society and aren't running around raping everything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 07:57 AM
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I would want to drastically lower sex drive without losing the other effects of testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 07:55 AM
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We hear this a lot but honestly I don't know... Most guys take pride in their work and at least try their hardest, the number of girls who have no fucking idea what they're doing and don't think this is their prerogative to fix truly shocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 04:25 PM
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I think that's a pretty succinct analysis. And to add to that paradigm TRP the movement is our collective protest that the morality you've decided isn't working for us, and so people aren't cooperating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:29 PM
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When you make the rules of engagement unfair don't be surprised when your opponent cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:18 PM
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It's true, but then collectively women have a storied history of lying about their inner experience and desires, so I think many in TRP community feel it is better to try and work it out ourselves and accept the misses that we accrue along the way. After all, you admit freely that this approach got us closer to workable sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:00 AM
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I'm sure you've met a guy before in your life who was good with women but couldn't speak to an audience. I don't think there's a necessary relationship here. Besides he may be awkward while he does it but confident IE assured in one's abilities and capability to go get what he wants? The man never stops. I suggest you read about his dating life rather than his ted talks and you'll see very quickly that he's not the stereotype silicon valley nerd who doesn't understand women.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 08:48 AM
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Because for girls maybe the bottom 10% are ugly enough that it becomes an issue whereas for guys if you're decidedly average you're in trouble. It's also vanishingly rare for those girls to genuinely be genetically disqualified, which tends to have to be some inherited condition. Most girls who are in the untouchable category are there because they can't bring themselves to lose weight whereas guys are frequently just given the wrong geneset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:41 AM
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This is kind of the point, under the attitude of most modern feminists it doesn't matter whether or not he squeezes and/or pulls harder. If you decided you weren't into it he's already committed a crime and the infrastructure to prosecute thusly continues to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:30 PM
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That's probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:50 PM
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There is absolutely no shortage of guys who's lives have been ruined because of a false sexual assault claim, regardless of whether or not it ended with a conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:31 PM
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As you said, the police don't take it seriously. Pay attention when you go out to what girls are claiming was 'sexual harrasment' and you'll quickly realize how much of it is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:28 PM
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Too many women think regret sex, a sexual advance from an unattractive man or an unsuccessful/clumsy attempt at closing is a matter for the police, so the police have lowered their tolerance for this accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:22 PM
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It's certainly given a supreme advantage to those men for maintaining relationships, however the primary issue is still present that the woman doesn't know when he is or is not serious about monogamy until after she's made her selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:17 PM
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It's kind of a strawman, I don't think anyone's really concerned about women who want to live their own lives. You're just ignoring the vast quantities of women who exploit and manipulate men and our political system for their collective advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:15 PM
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Pretty sure his version of events is closer to the truth than "battery and harassment" being the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:11 PM
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There are frequently women on here complaining about being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:06 PM
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Her book has been printed in 10 different languages for the last 50 years.... "no support" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:14 PM
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Not an MRA but as far as stats go they're much more accurate than feminist outlets lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:11 PM
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This is the 'pedestalised women' attitude. Do not focus on giving to women so they want you, but instead help yourself until they want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:10 PM
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Nobody mentioned birthing subsidies.?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:05 PM
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That do what to an extreme?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:15 AM
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No, furthermore accusations should carry anonymity just like being an accuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:37 AM
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Pareto principle?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:53 PM
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Holy cuck batman we need an intervention in here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:53 PM
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8,6,1,3,5,7,9,2,4,10,11
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:40 PM
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Why are you complaining about how some of your gender get to exploit some of ours like we're going to feel any sympathy..?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:36 PM
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80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:32 PM
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"Chadrick why is this manlet speaking to me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:26 PM
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Negatory. If the game were actually who has the advantage in getting zombie sex spam and who has the advantage in financial domination your analogy would still suffer from the aforementioned flaw. The real point here is that the zombie sex spam you're referring to is the byproduct of women's advantage in this area, not the advantage itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:22 PM
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No very rarely, but lets pretend I was. Would a woman who wanted to buy a man something or pay for sex have any difficulty in doing so? No, in fact it would likely still be easier than vice versa, hence this is not a male advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:36 PM
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Sneaky goalpost shift but not on my watch. See necessary versus sufficient or sets and subsets. These are part of the dating world and women have advantages in them. Besides the original discussion was about being hit on and dating sites which most definitely includes the non-casual hookup element of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:34 PM
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Advantages in the dating world aren't advantages if you're not interested in the dating world, but then we're kind of besides the point aren't we.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:11 PM
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Well they're less likely to have been exposed to the mind-virus that is feminism is the central issue here. Other than that all the traditional thinking on this issue still applies; your best result remains to be seeking out a college educated woman who has resisted indoctrination, there's just a numbers issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:10 AM
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Men are much more likely to find themselves isolated and alone (also publicly demonized and financially indebted), whereas women are much more likely to have support of all kinds, and can always go sleep with some guy for immediate social contact. So yeah I think because the environmental factors on this issue are much worse for men it has a tendency to hit them harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:07 AM
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This is spam.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:05 AM
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Women don't get slut shamed for "wanting strong, young cock." Women get slut shamed for wanting to sleep around, share more attractive members of the male sex amongst each other and ignore their equals. This is bad for the majority of males and bad for society because it promotes unproductive or violent behaviour in males and doesn't bode well for the future generation. The same stigma applies to men, but not nearly as much because men do not have nearly the advantage that women do in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:02 AM
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No the vast majority of male on male rape is not forcible envelopment. The 'forced to penetrate' category is very highly female on male rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:53 AM
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Jesus twenty questions what's your point? These are all definite advantages women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:49 AM
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Being unemployed is much harder on a man, and unemployed women also have extra options which men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:03 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:00 AM
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We warn men against the reality of marriage and support those who in full knowledge still opt to take the plunge in the best interests of the species. You don't really seem to understand red pill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:00 AM
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Apparently reading the bell curve and wanting to protect your culture makes one a neo nazi. Whatever, this stupid bitch is part of a movement to dismantle democracy in the united states and was busy lobbing glass bottles at people when this kid decked her. I'm just happy that she got decked more than wanting to delve into the ideology of Nathan Damingo. Actually your post brings up an interesting realization, because I genuinely believe at this point that the antifa goons ARE more of a threat to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:58 AM
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No man ever got married intending to get divorced. Your word that you're not like that is worse than meaningless. We had a security system for childrearing women and women turned it into a weapon against men, so yes until a more egalitarian alternative is presented I will continue to expect women to forgo the security of marriage. Why are you so surprised that men turn their nose up at this one sided deal? Where is the relationship security that marriage offers us? There's a bit of a fallacy sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:56 PM
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For me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:46 PM
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It seems fairly rare... Our generation of women have been pretty spoiled and it seems on average developed lackluster personalities as a result. There's some absolute gems out there though for sure ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:43 PM
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I know that there are no women out there pursuing lower paid men so they can work and support a house husband. Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:40 PM
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If you come from a good family run a thought experiment in your head; what would happen if your parents found out tomorrow their marriage is void on a technicality, what would change? I think your answer is nothing, save perhaps rushing out to renew vows. The marriage is not the relationship; the marriage is the contractual obligation to relationship (ie, the money) which at this stage in time is so sexist that it offers almost no benefits to men and confers only risk. Only women are afforded se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:37 PM
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The fact that the safety net is so large that you naturally don't even realize you're talking about society supporting mothers rather than husbands is indicative of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:33 PM
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I love how in your world not being able to steal from your partner legally becomes 'no rights under the law'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:31 PM
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Some and some. The way in which women have turned the marriage environment against men makes me sympathetic to those redpillers who choose to forgo the relationship entirely, and their protest might speed the return to more workable conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:28 AM
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Because you're stuck in the mindset that your sex is worth my money? If you don't see a mutual exchange of companionship as being 'worth it' you are still viewing men as tools and are precisely the reason things like redpill exist today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:24 AM
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As an extension, pretending to be rich may pay off now, but if you save the money and invest, you will be able to do far more in the future which will gain you a lot more value within society than what the small loan at the beginning could have ever given. It's a speculative one, but I wouldn't be so sure. To be clear I'm not advocating people be careless with their money, but the fact remains if that expensive suit fetched you a job, the car impressed a business partner or has an impact on your…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 09:31 AM
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Alright we can argue about the wage gap for hours, but you can't deny it's real. It's systemic, we pay women less. We pay teachers and nurses (predominately female jobs) lower than any other first world country. We simply value women's work less, we can get away with paying women less. Putting the cart before the horse. Do we 'pay women less for their work' or do women go into lower paid professions? Means adjusted salary for teachers has not deviated over the last 70 years, despite it transform…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:26 AM
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People aren't thinking about the average woman, they're thinking about the average woman in their demographic. It may well be that the BP/PP average woman is still more common in the western world. It also seems to be that there are a growing number of demographic possibilities where TRP average woman is the one you will overwhelmingly encounter, and alarmingly these are weighted towards the higher socioeconomic side of society - meaning they will have undue weight in shaping future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:53 AM
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Interest rated loans exist because we discount the future, this is something hardwired into our psyche as men who are programmed to tolerate massive amounts of risk to succeed and incur a high likelihood that the future might not even exist. However, the other side of the coin is the rational basis to which we can discount the future. In your fridge scenario, paying tomorrow in order to keep food fresh today is rational. It is this side of a loan you want to be attempting to evaluate. To extend …
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 08:47 AM
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This ^^ If all theredpill had to offer was anger it wouldn't have done so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:43 AM
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I think you're having the same 'but they're sexist douches...' crisis of confidence that puts a lot of people off theredpill. I'm pretty sure if you pick any given person and track their trajectory through TRP for a long enough time you'll see them go from disillusioned normie, to outright raging misogynist but then right on through to self-confident fulfilled alpha male. You're witnessing the middle stage because it's the most vocal. If a loved one died, you would expect a period of grief befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:42 AM
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red pillers are not trying to become normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:36 AM
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It seems your analysis of normies/niceguys/redpilled relies entirely on your estimation of their actual success rates. It's probably true that the over-analytical were drawn to PUA which led to redpill in previous eras, but now I think disillusionment is the primary drive. Most of us (myself included) maintain it was integral in solving low confidence and/or shyness, and as such a shift away from negative self-scrutiny (not good enough, focusing on flaws) to a constructive form of self-scrutiny …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:35 AM
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Marriage is becoming less necessary. Unfortunately here in the western world women are so to speak not having enough kids to maintain society so not really sure how true this statement is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:21 AM
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I think there is somewhat of a reversion movement going on, however be careful that this isn't just you witnessing the effects of your peer group getting older. For any case, whilst there are feminists trying to replace the husband with the state we will have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:20 AM
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2-6
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:01 AM
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I know some guys who are close to the triple digit. In those cases it is always a combination of all three (status, physical and game). All are incredibly tall. There's a definite Chad phenomenon, I think a lot of women here ignore it because they've self selected and are generally not the kind of women who were that interested in one night stands to begin with. The fact remains that in wider culture more women are forgoing relationships (or perhaps just letting men do even more of the work towa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:55 AM
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Statistically men select more highly for intelligence than women do. (pinker)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:50 AM
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That's conservatives and not feminists fault. Most feminists will agree that it's bad and that no child should get mutilated, but as the MRA always reminds them that's not a fight that feminists should fight. That's their own and well I fully support that. So defensive man, nobody blamed feminists for MGM. But since you've gone down this route it's a very common feminist trope to claim that comparing MGM to FGM is ridiculous and you guys totally have to stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:39 AM
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I don't think anyone's really suggesting to convict accusers without evidence, that'd be a total mirror of the current unfair situation. Unfortunately at the present time there's no shortage of cases which are thrown out because it was proved beyond reasonable doubt (through text/online messaging, or the woman's admission) that the accusation was a lie, and these should definitely be prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:37 AM
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Guys aren't avoiding marriage because they don't want to share their life but because as you well know the law is sexist and they don't want to become another victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:24 AM
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Yes I think it already is fulfilling this function very rapidly in the form of increasingly esoteric facebook hangouts. This is true about silicon valley, and it's no secret that smart people flock to silicon valley. The catch however; is that to get to silicon valley one must have already passed through the "success" filter as well as the "intelligence" filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:09 PM
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Men already don't evaluate women based purely on looks for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:16 PM
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The environment where men have to work their ass off to lure/coax women into sex is what modern women fought for. TRP teaches men to cut through the bullshit and engage with this environment, and then once it has been mastered they are free to decide on their own terms whether settling down to a family life is for them. It helps to free men from the bondage of women's exploitation of men through sex, helping them make decisions as though reality were more egalitarian. To put it simply, if you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 10:22 AM
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I don't know, I suspect the midlife crisis in men is primarily about actual mortality rather than reproductive mortality. It doesn't seem to be less common/severe in faithful men with happy stable family lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 10:15 AM
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http://polymatharchives.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html strictly unknown, not a very widely studied phenomenon. Although there's no shortage of logically consistent explanations, which is to say nothing about their truth. A ) Exceedingly high IQs may well come with increased risk of detriments in other cognitive function, for instance the 'autistic' trope (technically not autism) whereby highly intelligent people are seen to lack social skills, after all there's only a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 09:40 AM
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For major respected professions (lawyer, doctor, engineer, software developer to a lesser degree) high IQ individuals are well represented. The most notable people in the world, the famous and those who change history, are almost all super high IQ individuals, but this is by neccesity as the super high IQ is what allows these individuals to perform, which introduces selection bias. If you take individuals and measure life outcomes against IQ level a priori what you find is a little more interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:33 PM
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lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:41 AM
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That's interesting. Can you elaborate on this? Do you have any studies to share? Pinker again I think. Why would peak sex drives not match peak fertility? A male peaks early while he is in prime physical condition to be engaging in combat for mates, whilst attractive young women do not need a large sex drive to reproduce, rather around age 30 it needs to kick into high gear lest they risk becoming too old before reproducing. This is interesting. Can you elaborate on the logic/evidence/argument b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:39 AM
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I think men generally tend to care more about the factors which usually go along with income; education, class, smarts, confidence, etc, and therefore care about income mostly by proxy. Whereas women care about income primarily and therefore those other attributes by proxy, to illustrate my point I'm sure you could find some men with the standards you've just spoken about, but I reckon a far smaller percentage of those men would then leave the relationship if the woman lost/left work than vice v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:22 PM
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Steven Pinker How the mind works. Not sure what study he was referencing but if you read the book you can find out I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 02:32 PM
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the "1 in 5" lie, the wage gap lie, fabricated discrimination in STEM. The violence against women act & all the discriminatory and unconstitutional policy adoptions that have followed. "Feminist glacial theory" "The discrimination of our progress in condensed matter physics (masculine) as opposed to fluid dynamics (feminine)" Seriously, there's so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 02:09 PM
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No, this figure comes from Alfred Kinsey's (of the Kinsey scale) work. Other studies put the figure as high as 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:02 PM
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Body language. Complicity in escalation. Do not ask directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:58 PM
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We've been lied to, this game as well as the work game is now rigged in the other teams favour, and the other team still seems to hate us more and more. Our problems and desires have been de-legitimized, and the rules of engagement are increasingly being set up such that men do not have a fair shot. We are behaving badly purely if she says we are behaving badly. I'm not sure it's ruined the game, as it's still perfectly possible to play and succeed, and is fun to do so. What it has done is force…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:54 PM
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Women are at peak fertility age 15-17. Don't let our culture fool you. Male peak fertility is around early 20s. DO NOT CONFUSE THESE with peak sex drives, which for women is around 30 and men around 18. A lot of ageing is cumulative degradation of genetic material. Symmetry and much of beauty is an indicator of genetic integrity, hence why time ravages beauty. This is more pronounced for women because as a proportion of 'what you bring to the table' genetic integrity is much higher for women tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:46 PM
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Women's studies, feminist departments have shown themselves repeatedly to have a complete disregard for the scientific method and frequently fabricate or misrepresent data to push a sexist agenda. It's not about dismissing opinions you disagree with. If you genuinely want to have a balanced rational discussion then cutting departments like this out of the equation is your priority number one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:33 PM
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I do think that outlawing abortion would be responsible for increases in back alley abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:26 PM
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Outlawing paternity testing is a way of restricting what people are allowed to do/discover. It's taking away the easiest way to uncover the deception, but it's not actually doing the deceiving. I think that's about as weak as putting snakes in a man's room and claiming you didn't kill him the snakes did. I stand by my original statement on this one. You're correct about paternity fraud being recent, but I don't think this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:48 PM
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No. I am skeptical of them until I know their story, and they are not dating material.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:18 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:16 PM
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Not that I agree with the original suggestions, but allowing paternity fraud introduces genetic drift, whilst ensuring true nuclear families means the species selects for stable productive nuclear families. There is also a stark difference between what archwinger suggests (restricting what people are ALLOWED to do), and what you are suggesting (deceiving people in order to MAKE them do things for free).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:10 PM
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sex robots
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:06 PM
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Love everyone whittling away the explanations here like it's normal and ok; as if just gifting men $250k on birth for being men in the interests of equality would be acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:58 PM
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What? Are you still buying the awkward nerd trope?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:58 PM
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When you live with her and see her for real though, does that shatter the illusion for good? Nah, penises have short memories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:47 AM
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Makeup is an art. Some of you do it shit. Personally, I dislike girls who are shit at their makeup and therefore look fake, or always wear their make up every day and it's always the same - because it just telegraphs vanity and lack of confidence in one's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:46 AM
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There hasn't been a backlash against Theresa May's feminism because she doesn't appear to go in for 21st century female supremacist feminism. Men at current in the west are much more egalitarian than our female counterparts and really don't have a problem with much of 20th century feminism. Hatred towards poles is overplayed by the media, many of the reports you saw about 'hate crime skyrocketing' after brexit were shown to be fallacious. This mansplaining episode seems out of character for Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:40 AM
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Because it's an appraisal of women's preferences on age with regards to physical appearance, whereas the reason women prefer older males is not related to physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:22 AM
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Game is everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:20 AM
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It's not that being nice is the problem, it's that being an asshole is a shortcut to assertiveness. Given that game is hard what you see when you look outside is lots of nice guys getting jack shit and lots of assholes getting their dick sucked. Of course, the best of the best always have and always will be assertive, confident and nice. Have personally gone down the 'being an arsehole on purpose' route and yes it does work don't kid yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:19 AM
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Interesting, what do you ladies think about men who refuse to date women with high n-counts?
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/17 09:18 PM
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It's funny how for all the stereotypes blue piller's worlds are actually by far the meaner place :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:24 PM
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I'm plenty aware of the origin of this shit. You are aware as I have that feminism has consistently made determined efforts to infringe on men's rights. It goes above and beyond simple indifference and well into the realm of hostility. I'd like to point out that the story of the tender years doctrine is actually entirely consistent with my previous post by the way, you really could've picked a better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:18 PM
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There are literally best selling novels about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:34 AM
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And yeah if you want to enforce your rights you might actually have to fight for them as no one will just enforce them for you, particularly if you have a literal adversary. Why is everyone so surprised by this? IDK it would be nice if feminists hadn't taken them away in the first place whilst everyone maintains that it's about 'equality'? Isn't expecting the other gender not to oppress us kind of the whole point of the civil rights movement..?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:33 AM
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Obviously I'm biased, but I think there's wayy more sexism in the 'femosphere' than in the manosphere. The sexism in the manosphere jumps out at you because you're used to a world where women are protected entities and criticizing them isn't allowed whereas we can shit on men all we like. Many blatantly sexist attitudes are on full display in the femosphere every day and people just walk past them because it's part of the cultural 'norm'. We're going to shift that cultural norm back to a more eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:31 AM
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This is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:26 AM
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No. The legalized robbery, state enforced cuckoldry & denial of access to children are all very real problems and a very blatant assault on men's basic rights. Stop pretending it's an emotional response in an effort to avoid the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:07 AM
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Yes vagina tightness varies substantially.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:55 AM
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Well the 'why?' to the model of evo psych would be natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:53 AM
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Okay I think I'm done. Either way evo psych is just the explanation of WHY we have our respective attitudes towards sex, doesn't change anything about relative risk inferred in the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:09 PM
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Interesting. I'd like to take a second to point out that this study was weighted very heavily to the wealthier geographical locations in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:37 PM
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Do you believe in evo?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 03:24 PM
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Sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:11 AM
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Yeah... The oft overlooked truth is that this isn't really about unhappy men not getting sex, it's about a very real threat to society - because men broke their backs to build society and they did it for pussy, they don't want to do it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 11:08 AM
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Not really. - Would've done in nature, that's why we're evolved how we are. Marginally more likely to get an std - but then just screen for a nasty ass dick and make them wear condoms. As for accidental pregnancies, our legal system makes that an innumerably less serious risk for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:56 AM
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If 'just doing what's best for oneself' is all you care about then we should drop women's suffrage, screw male fidelity and go back to raping every woman we lay our eyes on. Or does it suddenly not make sense when you drop the 'women are wonderful' veil and realize that we have to create a functional society out of these two types of people with diametrically opposed objectives. Every few days we see some sort of post like this on a different level of trying to justify modern women's current beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:50 AM
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That's a bit more subjective and depends on what you want to play... But if you spend $400+ on a fender or a gibson it's going to sound good. Alternatively get a strat squier for tuppence and resolve to buy another one later if you keep it up and know what you want but you're going to hate playing on it most probably.
/r/askTRP27/12/16 09:53 PM
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buy a digital piano (with weighted keys, NOT a keyboard) $300 should be fine, learn piano and music theory.
/r/askTRP27/12/16 05:49 PM
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Not privvy to how youtube specifically works, but for algorithms in general - a thumbs down counts as an interaction, which means information has been successfully propagated to you and the medium will engender to show you more of things like this, it doesn't care how you feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:30 PM
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Let's suppose your analysis is correct for a second. If 70% of men are 'losers' then it's not their problem, it's society's problem and society needs to redefine the parameters of what constitutes a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:43 PM
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What changes? You haven't talked about any changes. I didn't tell you to stop paying attention to yourself, don't play word games. In fact I quite possibly told you the opposite - you should seek out somewhere which is more relevant to the discussion you keep trying to have. - this isn't a zero sum game, plenty of guys who are here to complain about the role of men in society also care about mental health, it's just that this is /r/purplepilldebate not /r/asdandhowtocope. - The handful of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:12 PM
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You are often hanging around here with the same script. A lot of us sympathize with the generally neuro-atypical because as you identify, a lot of their problems mirror ours. Now consider if your issues were not unique, but applied to literally your entire gender. Now maybe you have some sense of the scale of the issue in society, and the issue in society is undeniably more important than any individual's issue. I feel you might get more out of hanging round support groups for spectrum people, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:00 PM
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To try and identify 'one big problem' would undermine the scale of the issue in my opinion. I don't think modern women can relate to the state of our world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:57 PM
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Not MGTOW, but this argument sort of loses it's validity once you examine the giant case study that is Japan. Whilst MGTOW is a fringe group in the west it's easy to disregard them as losers but when 70% of a state's young males identify as such it becomes a stupid proposition. - It's very easy to see the trajectory our society is on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:54 PM
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Vasectomies are one-way, often lead to complications and impact sexual satisfaction. - Rules it out for a lot of us. It's a vapid suggestion anyway, this shit should be against the law as a baseline. It's kinda like if you lived in a world where rape was legal and every time women complained about it you just told them to dress more conservatively. Women actually cheat more in the modern world - but in any case, no man ever lumbered his wife with a bastard child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:51 PM
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It's a pretty stupid suggestion, kinda like telling women to look more like marilyn monroe. Being a jacked trilingual orthopedic surgeon with a ferrari is attractive because women know only 1% of men can achieve it. Suppose you lived in the world where it wasn't pointless advice because the guys you're giving it to are actually capable of this? It'd be useless advice again, because that'd become the new norm, and the principle of the problem in western society is that it doesn't actually matter …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:49 PM
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Why do you think this would result in femboys? With nothing of productive value to offer women men will have to rely on raw sexual attractiveness and will select very rapidly in the opposite direction. Why do you think there's been such an explosion in fitness industry and guys taking roids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:37 PM
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Women aren't at a disadvantage today :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:34 PM
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The past is not the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:23 AM
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Countries with actual male supremacy (middle east etc) no I'm not fine with. There is no male supremacy in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:31 PM
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Contradicts your previous post. What is your actual opinion about the nature of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:06 PM
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can hook up every few weeks at least most guys in late twenties n-count 5-9 Something isn't adding up here lads, let me fetch my calculator.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:21 PM
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Feminism uses sexist rhetoric and genuinely fabricated data to push an agenda which is decidedly not egalitarian but gynocentric - in a world where women are already advantaged at almost every stage of life; whilst simultaneously lobbying to restrict men's civil rights, and leverage the already substantial exploitative control women have over men. It's also been very destabilizing for society & family life. Disclaimer: I'm an egalitarian and support women's rights to liberty work etc etc pls inb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:17 PM
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no "all anything" are like any description. Populations are distributions over features. Any population will have outliers which bunk the trend in a given direction. AWALT is the realization that we've been lied to about the peaks on distributions of traits for women. It's not that literally all women are like that, it's that most women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:13 PM
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The equilibrium position under such a system is not that 80% of males voluntarily surrender themselves to genetic failure. Overwhelmingly the end result of such a society is that incredible levels of violence and risk taking become logical for most men, making the world much more unpleasant and dangerous for everyone involved, and incredibly bad for progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:58 PM
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I am an egalitarian, and modern feminism is about female supremacy not egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:56 PM
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Sluts give away sex for cheap decreasing the value of sex. Betas give away commitment for cheap decreasing the value of commitment. This is why switched on girls (red pill women) are conscious about landing a guy with complementary beta properties whilst switched on guys are conscious about not landing a slut for the long term. In a land composed of alphas your commitment would be a commodity women can't get their hands on cheaply.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 01:27 PM
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Of course we don't o.o
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:21 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:26 PM
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The same reason other women dislike sluts; giving it away easy and devaluing your goods in the marketplace.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 08:19 PM
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In my country there is no issue for women who want to have abortions. Obviously I don't support a situation where men have access to parental forfeiture and women don't, they must go hand in hand. The fact remains that in the US most women have access to abortions but no men do. Your waiver idea was suggested previously as a way to combat consent. Step away from #teamwoman for a second, you're arguing to restrict men's rights so they pay the price (literally) for your biological asymmetry. Again…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 07:38 PM
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Free sex, SAHP, sex work, single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 07:34 PM
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Have you tried mindfulness meditation? What were your interactions with girls like when you were younger? Do you have a particularly high sex drive? How important is female validation for you? One good way to deal with something that makes one repeatedly angry is to just try to be a little bit less angry than the last time whenever it happens. Whenever it happens remind yourself that this is impotent rage and therefore not beneficial to your well being. Recognize that a dog does not feel angry a…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 07:03 PM
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She'd have the same tools at her disposal if she doesn't want to deal with consequences as she does today. All that'd change is men would have those tools too. Stop peddling this meme that men having financial abortion rights would lumber women with unavoidable consequences - we live in a society with abortion and adoption. Having people sign waivers before sexual acts just isn't pragmatic, it doesn't take into consideration how sex actually happens in the real world, it has all the same problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:47 PM
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I think the explanation is that women are more valuable than men to primitive societies so a higher quantity of discretion will be tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 06:04 PM
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If your immediate reaction to the ability to negotiate a deal is that the resulting deal is going to be 'shitty' then you're aware that under the current system you're being overvalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:58 PM
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Two people have sex: Potential consequences: one person gets pregnant, both have a child to look after for 18 years. Very clearly the larger of the two issues is the responsibility about children, at the moment women have control over this aspect their life and men do not. This is an inequality in civil rights and certainly a weapon some women use against men, and a burden throughout their whole lives. We can normalize this part of the equation by giving both parties equal rights. We can make co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:56 PM
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The history as to why women have bodily integrity rights and men don't isn't really relevant, just the current situation. By your mode of logic here one could argue that black's rights are not an issue because the law refers to property rights of the owner. In no way would it somehow NOT be a rights issue for women were we discussing how sexual liberty 'falls under the rubric of the parents to make the right decision for their children' for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:41 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights The way you can rationalize mutilating babies is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:23 PM
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now you're not even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:14 PM
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The thing is, you're the one trying to law. The concept of rights is multidisciplinary and to that end you're attempting here to bring the discussion into a domain you're more comfortable with and then win on a technicality. It's a bit like if I being a physicist were to go around correcting people on the correct usage of velocity and speed. None of this changes the reality of the fact that parents who mutilate their daughter's clitoris will face prosecution whilst parents who mutilate their son…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:10 PM
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I know
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 04:15 PM
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I mean the concept doesn't really translate well to historical society. 'free women' would usually be working girls, otherwise they're property of their husbands or fathers. The two were delineated pretty strongly into separate classes of people, the modern concept of a woman who is free and having sex for fun rather than for work is a strange one in this environment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 04:10 PM
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bodily integrity (genital mutilation), parental forfeiture rights, parental custody rights, alimony (property rights). The draft. not rights: Various discrimination in education, workplace hiring, justice system & law enforcement, family courts. By no means exhaustive on either count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:59 PM
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I said my gripe was women employing this line when they're not in fact being hit on, and you changed the situation to interactions in a bar, the implication being that she is in fact being hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:57 PM
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Sexual adaptations are for the opposite sex. But this was just bait and I fell for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:46 PM
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All I want is the same rights you already enjoy thx
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:45 PM
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Yeah I've never interpreted RP ideology that way. But whatever, if that's your impression then that's your impression, I'll just point out that I don't think that and thank you for not attributing me to the hivemind. Please don't shift those goalposts either, being hit on at a bar != all of male female interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:43 PM
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Romans did it, Japanese government recently discussed this. Take this threat seriously fellas.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 02:36 PM
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Men are not judged badly for having many partners. They are seen as cool if they do it. This is not true. Plenty of men face judgement for being too promiscuous, and you'll find men who are genuinely getting laid on the regular will play it down. The law doesn't stop either of us from having consensual sex. You were talking about societal restrictions on sexuality, which currently are more stringent for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:33 PM
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What you're thinking of as "women fucking around" would've been working girls in medieval times. Our cultures used to have pretty stringent social requirements for how women present themselves in public to delineate whether or not they were working girls. Women who present a certain way would be expected to be prostitutes and face consequences if they were 'faking'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:31 PM
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What are you trying to prove? "Go fuck yourself you cretin" is harsher than "I have a boyfriend" we already knew this it's not relevant and you're building a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 02:26 PM
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You are free to have sex with as many people as you like. You will be judged for doing so, because people are judged on their actions in all circumstances. Men who have too many partners are also judged by women you know. The thing is these consequences aren't things like legal repercussions, as a woman in the west you're freer than any other human being in the history of humanity towards these things. People judge you based on your actions because past actions are our best predictor of future b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:14 PM
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I didn't say no men, no men they were allowed to touch. Remember women's bodies were controlled commodities for most of our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:01 PM
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I don't see what this but accomplishes. You just said your parents weren't even going to stop you doing what you wanted to do, just to inform you that actions have consequences. This isn't a shackle. The people in our culture who actually can't go out and have all the sex they want or lack other human rights are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:59 PM
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You don't see A in today's environment because we have civilisation and women's rights and 7bln people. In the environments where these behaviours evolved it wouldn't be uncommon for women to have no males around they're allowed to touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:57 PM
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Maybe you do, but then every girl thinks they're in that category and yet a large portion of you are getting it wrong on the regular. Speaking personally I don't find "Sorry I'm not interested" any worse. It's also generally more about tone than what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:46 PM
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Women are more flexible in their sexuality than men - two hot women getting together in a natural environment often: A) for one reason or another do not have freely available males to mate with. B) Are doing it to attract attention from males. It doesn't work in reverse because men telegraphing their availability for sex is meaningless to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:43 PM
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In today's world you have less shackles than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:39 PM
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Clearly this was consensual. Ignoring that, let's suppose it wasn't. If she's motile enough to be giving head she's not passed out drunk; you're not absolved of responsibility for your actions when you drink (I'm sorry I crashed officer but you see it's not my fault - I was drunk). So if there's no evidence she was coerced or that she attempted to communicate her reluctance it's a non-issue. Men aren't mind readers, if you wanted it to stop but didn't say anything it's still not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:37 PM
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It also sort of telegraphs that you're one of these misandrists who thinks every man is one step away from a rapist. It's somewhat the equivalent of that girl who clutches her purse when she walks past a black guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:32 PM
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Personally my gripe with this line (and others like it) is how often girls deploy it when they're not actually being hit on. wants to be valued as person assumes every interaction with man is about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:30 PM
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Honestly I think structurally our society makes it easier if you're a woman. Biologically less likely to have what it takes for sure, but let's unpack that for a minute. Populations of males & females are distribution, the portion of those distributions who have everything required to get to the top is vanishingly small for both sexes, it may well be that vast amounts more men have hit that peak on the distribution than women, but it's still an insignificant proportion of the total population. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:33 AM
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That's kind of why it's a negotiation. Prenups are nice but unfortunately in our society courts throw them out far too frequently for me to consider it reasonable protection of one's property. If you're not willing to engage with a man on equal terms I'm more than happy to sit this one out. If what you're doing is genuinely worth half the value of the household then negotiate that with your partner; we both know that most SAHP are not even coming close to half the workload, and we see way too ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:28 AM
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And we have a long way to go before we have a truly equal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:25 AM
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A pregnant woman has three avenues to after the fact exoneration of responsibility; abortion, adoption and straight up forfeiture. Giving men access to this right is necessary to have an egalitarian society. Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood, this argument is the same as abortion should be illegal because "she shouldn't have had sex if she didn't want a child".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:22 AM
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Interesting, I agree with everything except that it's fairly obvious the majority of women's imperative is being met and not much of men's and it is you who are experiencing said backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:21 AM
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I brought it up because you started talking about post divorce lifestyle. Men are quite capable of working without a woman. Women are not capable of being stay at home partners without a man. Alimony in the absence of children is never justified. For family cases, bring it down to a more realistic representation of the labor share or abolish it and negotiate a salary with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:11 AM
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A man's prospects of receiving alimony in a female breadwinner household are much much lower than a woman's in a male breadwinner household. It is, in practice if not in theory, a gender asymmetric law. To clarify, financial abortion is not the right to walk away from a child at any time. It's the right to terminate responsibility during pregnancy, personally I think if female abortion limits are 24 weeks then an 18 week financial abortion limit for the father seems fair. Your next two points ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:06 AM
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Yeah you're not really convincing me with that. I'm going to stick with my prior conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:57 AM
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Cartel: organised groups arbitrarily inflating value of a product through cooperation. Prostitution is exploitation of men. Whole reason we even had 'the patriarchy' the first place: Control women's bodies. Why? Because left to their own devices women use their bodies to control men. The history of humanity is a history of men doing their best to oppress men whilst women do their best to exploit men. The last 50-100 years has been an amicable truce on our part but as it seems the other team is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:56 AM
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Life is about more than just money, plenty of research shows how much harder divorce affects men than women, and the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women corroborating this. The difference is that our hypothetical man has been working. It's his money. Tell me exactly what portion of my money is your fair share? Alimony is legalized theft. Abolish it and negotiate a salary from your husband instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:48 AM
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But our culture doesn't ask that of women, women are perfectly free to pursue a career life instead. There's not much we can do about the fact that women get pregnant and men don't. I don't see much rational argument against financial abortion really, it takes two to make a baby but currently only one party has agency over the next 18 years of their life. To say you're against financial abortion is to say that you don't want men to have rights because it decreases the leverage you have against t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 12:41 AM
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Well seeing as this society seems to be committed to equality, I'd like some genuine equality - for which I listed areas men are discriminated against earlier here (not exhaustive) https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5iqiiu/q4women_what_are_the_worst_parts_about_dating_as/dbbg4mr/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:43 PM
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Again, [source]. This does not corroborate anything I've read, although it could be a local phenomenon (which, given that you're in Texas, perhaps). If a couple chooses to adhere to traditional gender roles then the woman is enjoying a more comfortable lifestyle, for alimony in this instance to be justified it'd have to be decreased remarkably [on average] to match the level of work, and I don't think it makes any sense if there are no children in the picture. Realistically, it's difficult for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:36 PM
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Of that list equal right to parental forfeiture would be the most important piece of progress to me, why 'doesn't it apply'? In what sense are you talking about a level playing field and why would that make chad the logical choice? Because of decreased ability to extort some beta to subsidize your existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:25 PM
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Yeah I agree, it's an interesting parallel. However TRP isn't making any misleading claims to being an egalitarian social movement like feminism is, it's about sexual strategy for males and for many part of that process is these rants. I also don't know of anyone who thinks they should be on wikipedia. To clarify: you'll see plenty of unsupported bollocks in people's field reports, but then the field report is not the place where red pill ideology is developed... Done correctly, a field report s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:20 PM
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Primarily because most women do not pursue alimony, but I'm gonna go ahead and [source] you and point out that only in marriage would gambling half your net worth for no return on a 1:9 probability be considered low risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:12 PM
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Law follows culture. No law was ever successful without the cooperation of the people - look at the war on drugs - and culture is the aggregate of people's opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:06 PM
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You're implying women only get married to extort some unlucky chump out of his coin with vagina magic. Chad's harem wouldn't be an option for those who want children with parental forfeiture for males either, and I still believe that most women want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:58 PM
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How do you figure that? There'd be plenty more guys willing to get married if it wasn't such a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:46 PM
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I don't think you're going to find nearly as many men today who beat/assault/disrespect their wives, don't think women should have rights or opinions or are generally as entitled towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 09:01 PM
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I specified corporate america. Parental rights for men (financial abortion), end of discrimination in custody & family courts, abolition of alimony. End of affirmative action programs to advantage women over men in education, less institutional hiring bias in naturally male dominated fields. More male teachers, esp. for younger children, more physical education in schools. No more anti-male/feminist agenda in media, equal access to welfare and support services for men. There's a whole bunch of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:32 PM
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No I'm not, but you already knew that. I'm just saying assessed rationally, the slightly increased risk of sexual assault one faces for being a woman is definitely worth the large benefits of being the desirable sex in the west, even without all the other advantages for women in our current culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:02 PM
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Populations are distributions. In 50s corporate america for instance, one might've gotten discouraged about the availability of good men, because the culture was quite toxic to women and their needs. To say there were no good men is blatantly false, but sufficiently few that 'good women' were missing out. Today we have the reverse of that, our current culture is toxic to men and their needs, and the distribution of women is skewed to the negative today as the population of men was skewed to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:00 PM
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https://1in6.org/the-1-in-6-statistic/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:18 PM
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It doesn't, the two parts of your previous response are in no way connected. If a man simultaneously claimed that he wanted to get married and that no woman he's ever met is someone he'd want to marry - BEFORE factoring in whether she is in fact actually interested - he's probably being too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:05 PM
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I see no reason for this. Seems like one of these cases of women not wanting to give up an inherent advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:56 PM
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90% of the time I hear that claim about guys it's coming from some feminist. Obviously I can't speak for all men but... Seems like bollocks to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:48 PM
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All information you can gather is secondary to what you know about your partner. Unfortunately people on the internet can't tell you anything about your partner, but they can talk about people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:46 PM
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Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:40 PM
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Right, but it wouldn't be fair if you were just as attractive as [A] but [A] has innumerably more options because [A] is white and you are black. In all other circumstances we view sexism and racism as interchangeable prejudices, why not here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:37 PM
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I think the number of guys that empathize with low value females is definitely higher than the number of females that empathize with low value males. And that's truly low value mind you, not around-average-but-not-getting-any-cause-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:35 PM
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IDK. It's kinda like how I wouldn't judge the starving for stealing, this environment is hostile as fuck so some men behave appropriately go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:16 PM
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More men than you realize have been stalked by rejected women. We just don't talk about it - we know there's nothing in place to help us regarding this and being vocal about it will only make your situation worse. As for sexual assault... In a natural environment I'd say the risk of sexual assault is the price women pay for the benefits of being in control of sex. In our western culture we've culturally conditioned sexual assault so strongly that women are actually not very much more likely to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:38 AM
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It's sort of just a statement that "we don't like how you're naturally wired and we want you to change." If I get a hint of this sort of attitude I next swiftly, there's no way it'd not be picked up on for the sexism it is if men ever tried this. In my experience most women who complain about being valued only for their looks are scoring a giant near-zero on personality. They're the girls who'd be shut-in omegas if not for their good fortune that they were born with the parts that don't really n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:17 AM
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Long hair is safer, it's easier to fuck up and look terrible with short hair as a girl, but done right it's refreshing and thus more attractive to me. I imagine something similar is true for guys and long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:04 AM
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https://gyazo.com/60a236da6d4a93a515dcfdd67d469912 And the republicans freed the slaves. This meme is a distraction from all the bigoted hateful shit feminism is accomplishing right now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 11:03 AM
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Well done
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:59 AM
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In general a woman having the guts to approach me adds a couple of points to her attractiveness in my eyes and makes me more likely to give it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:58 AM
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If workplaces want to hire more men than women, then yes, men will be able to land more jobs and make more money because there will be companies to fulfill them. Why is it unfair? Life works that way. So only women can raise children, it's not our problem we didn't design biology? If the natural environment favours men in this regard that's not unfair it's just efficient. OP proving what we all know, that 'equality' is only for women, anything which disadvantages men is working as intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:56 AM
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If a case can be made then a case can be made, the fact of the matter is simply that not going is incredibly likely to drastically reduce the standard of evidence that can be brought to the case. Evidence of consentuality will always be circumstancial but physical injury & things like text logs can be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:41 PM
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Nothing will work for everyone. If you want to have high success rates or succeed with desirable women this is the line to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:20 AM
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Rape victims should proceed immediately to police or medical centres if they want any hope of obtaining a conviction. (A hospital etc. Will swab you and keep the evidence on file without your committing to report so you can have time to think about it) This should provide evidence as to sex taking place, some degree of evidence as to the consentuality of said sex. Tied with either forensic or logistic evidence to put the perpetrator at the respective time and place should be good for a convictio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 11:25 PM
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Confident & assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:49 PM
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Feminism has always been a middle class endeavour not because of anything to do with colour but because of apex mentality. Working class women aren't feminists because they know god damn well that being a housewife beats being down the mines. It's only those women who feel like if the game were 'fair' they'd be male winners not average males who support feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:30 AM
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Men should not be quiet when approaching a woman, terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:26 AM
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People who demonize male sexuality & want men to self-select themselves out of the dating sphere. Zero respect for anyone who thinks asking a stranger out is anything other than flattering and brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:25 AM
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Because we can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:19 AM
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What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:17 AM
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Women avoid dating down the financial ladder very much more than men avoid dating up I think. I'd imagine the real disadvantage here is that these women invest a lot in their careers and whilst having a good career in itself isn't a negative for a woman dating, it's not a large positive, and she's probably stressed and looking worse for it and not having as much time to put into find and maintaining a relationship as otherwise. - You don't see the same sorts of issues from women who are just bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:15 AM
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look at their apartments again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:12 AM
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Toxic Masculinity is feminist approved anti-male propaganda designed to breed docile doormat betas. Toxic Masculinity is not a thing, it's a sexist slur. And by the way, I fucking love cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 10:08 AM
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There is no supposed to, there is simply fact. On the aggregate women are better at sitting still and that's why our gynocentric society has organised schools this way, if that doesn't apply to you personally then so be it - I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't being so aggressive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:11 PM
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Whining about your personal troubles isn't valid here. On the large scale western school systems are designed to disadvantage healthy males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:04 PM
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http://ideas.time.com/2013/02/06/do-teachers-really-discriminate-against-boys/ On otherwise identical test sheets girls are graded above boys. We've also seen the quantity of physical outlet in schools gradually degrade over time and those boys which fail to adapt medicalised with 20% of young boys in the US on drugs for 'ADHD' This system is definitely designed to disadvantage boys, not to mention how 90% of primary school teachers are now female and almost all feminist owing to how we discrimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:59 PM
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Men are discriminated against in school, which is already organised to benefit women, and whilst yes more likely to be in special ed are also more likely to be in 'gifted & talented' classes (see Bateman's principle). Women are admitted to college on lower grades and have a tendency to study less technical subjects. Yes, also more likely to be highly talented (Bateman's again). Men at the low end of society also have fewer options than women. I've seen no evidence to corroborate this. I'll give …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:23 PM
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No disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:29 PM
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My personal opinion is men's preference is a function of the effort in for sex against the woman's attractiveness; the hotter she is the harder he will try. If she's just giving it out, men may well be happy to 'fuck anything'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:03 PM
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Not necessarily. It looks at breig meetings, without any implication for what kind of relationship they would have. Right, so the figure is an aggregate of sex and other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:53 PM
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As far as I'm aware TRP views men's attraction to women as a regular normal distribution, if a man is average then 50% of women are below him on the attractiveness scale, so this checks out perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 08:51 PM
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Feminism is a political movement, it's defined by the aggregate of voices under the label adjusted for their respective volume. If you disagree with this aggregate on an issue, then on that issue you are the straw feminist if anyone, and on this issue mainstream feminism certainly does not advocate female accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:39 AM
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Whilst this does sound like an isolated incident of crazy, I wish you'd not used such a bad example because as someone in a similar boat I think I and many men have found that women (even particularly sane women) have similar reactions to this sort of news quite commonly. Can any of the girls in here explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:37 AM
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Personally I think currently in the west it's more common for women to objectify than men, because it's culturally acceptable. Spend a couple days on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:31 AM
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Aside from the screaming pedanticity, this study appraised dates not sex, and if you're going to seriously assess the pareto principle figures you need to be factoring in beta bux alpha fux etcetera. In any case, we could just agree to rewrite all our posts as 67/33 instead of 80/20 and make exactly the same points if it keeps you happy? This would change nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:29 AM
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This isn't an appeal to nature, she's not claiming that attraction to looks makes sense because it's natural rather it's natural because it's a proxy for reproductive fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:26 AM
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Yeah I've never seen an argument from any redpiller who's going to make his foxhole and die in it if the figure turns out to be 79/21, like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:20 AM
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I kinda addressed this. Concept - OK. Application - Not good.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 06:18 PM
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Your argument is predicated on an assumption that this 'whining' is futile. It is not, or at least it is not necessarily. Your own post extols how you unplug people with information and thereby change their behaviour, the same can happen for wider society. Our actions (men AND women) are an interplay of culture and psychology. Men's behaviour has been heavily moderated by culture (and often for the good, the near abolition of rape in modern societies has been very good for progress) whereas wome…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 02:38 PM
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Red pill is not a psychological crutch, that's mainstream society. Red pill is about accepting reality and doing your best within that framework, if your best still ends up being in your eyes, a failure, then we sincerely hope you have the strength to deal with it. Pulling the wool back down over everyone's eyes because some people cannot stomach the truth is a non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:28 PM
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I can watch Love Actually and separate it from reality just the same as I can separate Terminator from reality. I don't know where this is going? Most if not all men have seen a few romcoms, some are good (eternal sunshine, silver linings etc.) but the same rehashed script with Jennifer Aniston12 times doesn't appeal to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:23 PM
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It would seem to be these boys are aware that society is failing them, they know that the advice they're getting on how to be boys and men is not in their best interest, and so they're reverting to making their own way. Whilst they're going to be called out on some shit here which is perfectly natural behaviour, we're going to get lumped in with this some genuinely undesirable stuff - I put it to all of you reading this that some of the stuff in this post simply shouldn't be. But this is what ha…
/r/MensRights09/12/16 12:28 PM
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Okay, if you insist on making this sexist. Men were getting shit done on a societal level with words long before women were on the scene, and without the added benefit of a magical vagina to manipulate their opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:45 PM
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These people are in government, lobbies and they make policy. "Shut up and take it like a man" No, I'll deal with the problem, head on, with words, like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:40 PM
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It's given that it's a minority, the question is whether it's a sentiment that's always been there and the internet is just unleashing, or if it's new to our real environment as well. The internet was around for a very long time before any of this kicked off, and since kicking off it has done so very rapidly. To my mind, strong evidence that we're seeing the latter and this represents a real change in the thoughts of real people, rather than a change in how we're communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:39 PM
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The social stigma for men opposing it will disappear, and the movement will die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:36 PM
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By my perception most young men are aware of feminism and will admit how much they hate it in private, but aren't prepared to pay the social costs of opposing it publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:33 PM
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At the risk of being a dick, what you've said is just that there's a problem. But we know there's a problem, that's why we're here. Yeah, I agree, this is probably a good line to take with people who are immediately dismissive of the phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:29 PM
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Men's competition resulted in workplace output in the old system when men ran sexual politics. Under the new dynamic men's increased competition has resulted in a huge spike to the fitness industry and a lot more time spent perfecting casual/online pickup techniques, it has not been good for societal productivity. Taken to the limit, it will cause violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:27 PM
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Because feminists started lying about college guys and I'm aware of it, so I'm suspicious, but every time I hear about another refugee rape case they seem to turn out to be true. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:21 PM
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Women, never listen to your friends if they tell you that men don't like you because you're smarter than them!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:10 PM
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"Those men are retarded but if the woman is spineless enough to take the bruises and not leave it's one of those you get what you deserve scenarios."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:01 PM
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I actually disagree, considering how widespread the idea that men are expected to pay is, the "forgotten purse" seems infinitely more likely to be a lie than the "forgotten wallet" and I'd be immediately suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:52 AM
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The epitome of entitled first world women's "A la carte" attitude to 'equality'. If a woman expects me to pay I am immediately no longer interested; at best my attention shifts from a possible relationship to trying to sleep with her that night and never talk to her again, and at worst I just leave. I've come across 3 several times, I fell for it once when I was a naive teenager and never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:50 AM
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Most women don't deserve most men - Milo Yiannopoulos
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:48 AM
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Which is why the law is 24 weeks. Government was involved with this decision because the woman is not the only party involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:45 AM
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abortion affects your baby
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:49 PM
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Right, so if it were just about you I'd defend your complete autonomy on your decision. But it's not just about you, so we need to have a legal process, kind of like how you can choose to smoke but you're not allowed to do it in public buildings, because then it's not just about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:28 PM
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I'm pro choice, but abortion isn't about you it's about the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:39 AM
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Do women need to be more feminine and submissive then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:55 PM
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Most of you thought it was pretty bad when men controlled sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:36 PM
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[Vast majority of] women have free access to sex whenever they please, they enter into a monogamous arrangement of their own volition. Men enter into a monogamous arrangement under duress because it's a necessary sacrifice to get sex. Ergo, It's worse when women cheat because women control sex. Same logic applies for men who have emotional attachment outside of relationship, because this is what men control, and we see this reflected in men and women's attitudes to cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:26 PM
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Women control sex, therefore when women cheat it is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:05 PM
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I think It's the vitriol, men are generally wired to be able to cope with adversity, and they could overcome all these institutional disadvantages. However when it's coupled with the message that they're worthless being blared at them from all angles, the temptation to stop trying is pretty large.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:53 PM
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