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Right fucking now, women in parts of the US can lose control over their own bodies because they got pregnant. Women still disproportionately deal with sexual violence, stalking, intimate-partner violence, and reproductive risk. You are correct, these are problems. My issue with it in this case is, why does the fact that this happens apparently justify (to use OP's term) the snark OP describes? You don't know if OP supports the anti-abortion movement, or if he has stalked, or commited sexual viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:31 AM
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I notice you say "people" rather than "men" in " people upset at having to pay for a date aren’t getting dates anyway." But it's not "people" who the majority of the time are expected to pay for dates, it is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:54 AM
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And how many times have you gone on dates where you initiated versus dates where she initiated?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:52 AM
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That's sweet of you to be considerate Please, spare us your false sincerity. But if you're 25+ think of paying for the first date as a filter. Is he willing to suck up $20 without complaining to possibly not die alone? No? He's probably terminally online. Based on what? You can't just say things and magically will them to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:48 AM
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And.... you are on PPD and therefore terminally online. Said by woman on PPD. Everyone wins. Except men on PPD. Which, sure, you could say a lot about people who are on this subreddit, but just remember, YOU are on here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:46 AM
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Young women lean left. If they’re politically progressive their dating behavior should also be progressive. Women should be consistent instead of picking and choosing areas of life where they only benefit. I disagree with the idea that a political stance should be reduced to "left vs right". That's not how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:41 AM
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this is for the men who are afraid of paying Way to twist the discourse about who pays. Good job
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:39 AM
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I love how Lilith never answers the real shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:25 AM
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You don’t want to say it, because you fear that the date is off the table then…..which is just dishonest. No it isn't. Everyone acts on their best behaviour on a first date. But anyway, I don't feel like there's much point for either of us to continue this discussion. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:59 AM
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Why should I have to? I already argued why I think I shouldn't. And if that's my opinion, obviously I don't want to say it, which I also included why in my previous comment. Do you make it clear before the date that you expect the man to pay for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:34 PM
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Which part of my comment gave you that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:22 PM
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"but you don’t want to say that out loud, because it would preclude you from extracting out of me…..guess what that makes you?" I have no idea what you claim I would be extracting out of you. But you are right, I think you are entitled. I just don't see any value in saying it. And I don't want to guess. Why don't you follow your own implicated advice and say it straight? What does it make me? Also, you say "it applies to me". Based on what grounds? You don't know me. Merely based on me arguing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:22 PM
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That argument is anecdotal and really not convincing to me. I could say the same. You do realize that men experience that woman who expect to be paid for on first dates have princess syndrome and will just use your money for the entire relationship. Is this true? Maybe in some cases, just like your argument, but I really don't think it applies to the extent you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:50 PM
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The way I see it, both people are providing for themselves. I see no reason why two strangers on a date should not pay for their own share. The expection that the man should pay just feels very one sided and unfair, particularly when the person with that expectation is hiding behind "the one who asks the other party out should pay", when the current social aspect of dating is pushing men to be the initiator. It just feels very entitled to expect the man to pay. If that's what you prefer, fine, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:40 PM
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Also just though of this, but on a sidenote, I am completely fine with people having their own preferences. If you prefer being romanced, courted and provided for, that's fine. But what's with the dismissive and condescending way to frame it? Not saying you have done that, but as I mentioned, there is literally a comment saying something like "men are bums if they don't pay on the first date". Like, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:33 PM
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Sure, you can choose to just disengage the topic. But you clicked on it knowing what the title was? This is a debate subreddit. We are writing here because we want to try to argue our own viewpoints/opinions and hope to change other people's minds, or perhaps even change our own. If that is not on the table for you, I don't really understand why you are here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:25 PM
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Perhaps one of the reasons this still topic gets brought up so often is that there are still tons of women here that think if the man doesn't pay, he is a bum/is not interested/other (as seen in another post less than two days old), rather than just the standard expectation for a date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:20 PM
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Here we go again…if you don’t want to pay for a date, use your big boy words and say so before hand. It’s really not that hard. There is literally 'debate' in the title of this subreddit. If you can't go along with debates, why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:16 AM
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Lol, the whole post of yours is admitting you treat women like a monolith. No, this is a clear counter-example made to show the same situation reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:15 AM
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But there isn't. This thread is full of people such as yourself saying the consent is completely valid. He bears no responsibility for refusing to take no for an answer. These aren't mutually exclusive. Many people are, which is why she said no nine times. And said yes the tenth rather than getting annoyed or frustrated enough to escalate the situation. If that is enough for her to say yes just to get rid of the nagging, then she obviously didn't care that much about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:00 AM
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Coercion is not consent. I didn't say it was. The consent comes from the other party, not the one doing the coercion. No, actually that is entirely the point. I disagree, but let's just go with the fact that having sex is more intimate, and thus something you are less likely to do with someone. Then are you not also more guarded? If someone can ask you ten times and get you to say yes, that's still on you. Why is there no personal responsibility for the man refusing to take no for an answer? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:37 AM
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If a man asks a woman to have sex 10 times and the woman says "no" 9 times before finally saying "yes" on the 10th, did she consent? Yes, she did. She said yes. If a guy has been harrassing her and trying to coerce her, saying "yes" is still consent. What she should have done was escalate it, maybe contact the police etc. I am open to being challenged on this, but I just can't take this scenario as seriously as people who use it as an example do. If someone asks me 10 times whether I can give th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:35 PM
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If a man asks a woman to have sex 10 times and the woman says "no" 9 times before finally saying "yes" on the 10th, did she consent? Yes, she did. She said yes. If a guy has been harrassing her and trying to coerce her, saying "yes" is still consent. What she should have done was escalate it, maybe contact the police etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:30 PM
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This is, of course, completely unprovable, but I am quite cerain that the "regardless of who is doing it" is in response to an unmentioned bias like "it's different if a woman does it". It would be interesting to to a few dozen of each and try to see if there are any consistent tells. Timeskip.... (First off, I just want to note that it titled both chats as "Unwanted touching at work", and that I am not sure which gender it presumes the poster to be) I did 10 of each, and it does seem to be a re…
/r/MensRights28/07/26 02:52 PM
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It's odd, some of the comments give off obvious botted vibes, but the names don't support it
/r/MensRights28/07/26 02:33 PM
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This is absolutely insane. Has sex to make partner happy in a relationship What the fuck? Person with down syndrome eagerly has sex with a neurotypical Again, what the fuck? So people with down syndrome just should be permanently avoided on the topic of relationships? Don't these people realize this is more harmful than beneficial? Pretending to like a sexual hookup out of fear of disrupting mutual social circles This one particularly irks me. I've long felt that a at least some of what men get …
/r/MensRights27/07/26 02:15 PM
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It can, and they are trying, but as you can see from this example, it doesn't always work
/r/MensRights27/07/26 12:56 PM
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That's the case whether or not the rules say so, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:03 PM
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I don't agree with either of you. Men don't see women as people? That's absolutely not my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:52 PM
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I don't want to enable victim blaming, but if you can't prove the sexual assault, what do you want to happen? But yes, perhaps at minimum, a restraining order (or a slightly weaker version of one) could be made just by word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:53 PM
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It's funy that you adjusted the goalpost from "men don't protect women" to "men don't always protect women"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:42 PM
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It's not up to other people to prove something that has happened with near 100% certainty. If I claim that there has never been bee attacks, only wasp attacks, you don't need links to tell me I'm wrong. https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/insights/how-common-are-female-school-shooters/165257/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(San_Diego) (and before anyone complains about wikipedia links. The articles have sources in them. One of those is also posted below) http…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:35 PM
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They act a certain way because a stranger is talking to them, why is that not obvious? That certain way is different than how most men would act, why is that not obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:21 AM
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Why are you acting like you wouldn't get horny for someone you are attracted to? Attraction is attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:09 PM
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Do most men lie to get laid? Certainly some men do, but I think that number is pretty small—maybe bigger than those who see escorts, but still. The question is interesting, because outside of this subreddit (surprised by most of the answers here tbh), it seems like women really, really do not like men who have paid for escorts, yet the men who do lie or manipulate to try to get sex is undoubtedly higher, and without the same pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:00 PM
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And again. We are talking here about baggage. The OP wants to disqualify people for baggage and then has no issues adding more onto others. You are trying to shift the topic. Which is just bad faith arguments. I very much disagree. We are discussing the validity of the claim you made: "You are giving her the baggage that you are mentioning older people have". Everything I have done is try to explain or show to you why I consider that claim to be unfair, as there is nothing in OP's post that reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:51 PM
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I don't really follow
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:53 PM
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You are implying their relationship is guaranteed to fail without evidence, purely based on general statistics. And since you brought in statistics on divorce in age gap relationships, let me bring in some other statistics and ask you a question. https://worldmetrics.org/lesbian-domestic-abuse-statistics/ This source, the sames as yours, has several statistics on lesbian relationships, some of which are: 49.8% of lesbian women report emotional abuse from intimate partners. 35% of lesbian survivo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:45 PM
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Unless he dies in the next like 10 years and leaves her a very big inheritance she will waste her life with a guy with genetically inferior sperm if she wants children. That's her choice though. Being in a relationship with a man in his fifties does leave her more vulnerable to manipulation, but she is still the one who chose to be in that relationship. Saying anything else would imply that actual manipulation between OP and her has already taken place, which, again, would need you to point out …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:22 PM
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I didn’t tell him to say that. Which shows how this sub views women. Actually, you're right in some cases, so I'll concede that. What is attractive about a person who always be complains, always think theyre a victim, and never thinks theyre ever in the wrong? Are you describing the average feminist? So why would a woman want a guy who acts like a blue haired feminist? She can just be friends with those bitches. AND those feminists arent gonna be desperate for her pussy. It doesn't really check …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:11 PM
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That is a pretty fair assessment, I think. Not in the sense that it is directly unattractive, but that "unattractive" traits like being less socially aware, more awkward, less decisive, etc. are more common in autistic people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:09 PM
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You are giving her the baggage that you are mentioning older people have How so? You can say that a 50yo dating a 19yo is odd, and I'd agree, but implying anything further than that requires you to back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:35 PM
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He's average-looking and autistic, it's not his fault but he doesn't know how to talk to a girl he's interested in I just want to point out that posts like yours could contribute to giving autistic people (men in particular) a bad rep. If your brother is autistic, you should have good first-hand experience with the ways he differs from "average" people. By bringing up a story about a pleasant experience because a man was overtly sexual or direct in his attempt to flirt, and then becomes invasive…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:52 AM
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Equating "men being much more insisting and creepy" with "just men approaching" is dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:23 AM
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Then are you taking this back? Because you try to imply, that’s a female trait to act like an emotional toddler. No, that's you: Then why would women want to date a little bitch? They can just hang out with their friends then. So why would women want a man who acts like an unhinged woman? So why would a woman want a guy who acts like a blue haired feminist? Most women are het so theyre not interested in little whiny bitches. They already got friends for that. That’s not an excuse to be a toddler…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:07 AM
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I'm not sure you are really getting what I am saying. current paternity tests -> individual -> display of mistrust. standardized paternity tests -> it happens by default at every birth in hospitals -> it being a standard thing means neither parent is likely to even pay it any mind -> no display of mistrust. Furthermore, without the trust angle, standardised peternity tests could help drastically reduce victims of paternity fraud. If nothing else, standardised paternity testing should be implemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:53 AM
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Before anything else, I'll just make it clear that this isn't meant to argue that people should ignore what they are attracted to and what they aren't. But I think what you are attracted to and what you find undesirable is very heavily influenced by empathy. And discussing specifically traits that are typically regarded as unattractive could very well influence someone to be less bothered by traits they normally find undesirable, to the point where it becomes either less important or a non-issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:02 PM
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women and girls tend to like media that portrays social scenarios and situations. Sex kind of comes with that territory. But sex doesn't have to come with that territory unless including it has shown to make for more engaging media, so in that sense, isn't it because the seuxal content itself is valued rather than it coming with the territory?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:41 PM
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I don't think it's that simple and if someone made you doubtful to the point you think they cheated just break up. I see basically this point repeated a lot. You literally just had a child, that means a relationship stable enough that you got around to "the talk" about having children, started actually making them, she got pregnant, 9 months passed by, the child is born. At that point I really disagree with the "just leave" thing. Doubt can be resolved and worked through, just leaving means you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:28 PM
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So is this a correct impression from your comment: If you encountered situations that could feasibly lead to doubt and/or concern about your partner cheating, you'd just dismiss it completely? Let's say he had a female friend and they liked fishing or hiking or similar where they'd be spending countless hours alone with no other person around, including you. Would you be fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:19 PM
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What a crazy thing to say. Forcing 100% equity without any thought to the specific context is both impossible, unhelpful and unreasonable. If we had the option of making the entire male gender have wombs and be able to shit out children through their assholes, then sure, we could talk about equity in childbirth. But we can't, so bringing it up is pointless. We can, however, help prevent real paternity-fraud victims at almost no cost, and yet the mere mention of testing gets people frothing at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:14 PM
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Not quite. I am not comparing the two situations, I brought in the alcoholism hypothetical as an example to my point that someone making an accusation is not inherently abuse. Hammering down what exactly is abusive and what is not abusive is not as simple as pointing at a definition or article, it is very largely contextual, especially if you specify verbal abuse and not just abuse. The article even says: "We all get into arguments from time to time. Sometimes we lose our cool and yell. It’s all…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:51 PM
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Or choose to have a kid with someone you trust That's the thing, assuming outliers, you do trust the person you are in a relationship with, otherwise you'd not have made a child. But what if something happens that makes you suspicious that the child isn't yours? It doesn't just come out of nowhere, the distrust is usually tied to a specific situation or behaviour, so something triggered it. This could obviously be a misunderstanding, but it could also be valid. And at this point you can't just g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:09 PM
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I see, then there's nothing more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:52 PM
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Because by standardising paternity tests we solve the big problem with individual paternity tests, which is that they are a clear display of lacking trust, and thus you leave men who could feasibly be at risk of being victims of paternity fraud with no actual options that won't blow up the relationship or leave them potentially being a father to a kid that isn't his. And I have yet so see actual valid arguments that doing paternity tests for each birth would be an actual burden for anyone invole…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:38 PM
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The sum cost doesn't matter in a vacuum.There were over 3 million births in the US in 2025, so 500 million in that case would amount to 166 USD per test.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:30 PM
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Making accusations is not abuse. What if your partner had issues with alcohol, they come home later one evening, and you accuse them of having gone to the pub? It is confrontational, sure, but not abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:29 PM
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I am not advocating that women should just accept being blatantly mistrusted in relationships with children. But paternity fraud is a legitimate problem, even if perhaps limited in scale. How do you propose handling this problem, if paternity testing brings this reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:26 PM
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Realistically we know that government mandated paternity testing isn’t going to happen. Arguing on reddit isn’t going to convince the future mother of your children not to be offended when you ask for a paternity test unless you are having these arguments with her. This is one of the big points of standardising paternity tests. As it is now, doing a paternity test is only done if people feel a need, and the action is equivalently taken as an insult and/or a lack of trust. If it was the default, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:19 PM
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That assume the man: Becomes suspicious to the extent that he feels the need to go through with a paternity test Does not care about the marriage in the first place, because going through with said paternity test is very likely to result in divorce, if this very post is anything to go by.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:13 PM
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So the issue and blame for paternity fraud is not the woman doing it, it is the man for finding out? In a scenario where the man does discover the child isn't his and leaves, why is the blame placed on the man for leaving, and not the woman for cheating and lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:09 PM
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You’re going to systematically increase the number of abandoned babies, because you’re too afraid to do the test for yourself. The end. This sounds like you are blaming the man being lied to rather than blaming the woman for being unfaithful, lying and attempting to commit paternity fraud. I'm sure that's not what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:07 PM
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What specific part of the article do you think supports your statement? Because it seems fairly loose. The obvious one, accusations, says: If someone is repeatedly accusing you of things, they may be jealous or envious. Or perhaps they’re the one guilty of that behavior. Either way, it can make you question whether you’re doing something inappropriate. For example: “I saw the way you looked at them. You can’t tell me there’s nothing going on there.” “Why won’t you give me your cell phone if you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:52 PM
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Then you are not the reason that standardized parternity testing is being brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:49 PM
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Because if it turns out to be a false suspicion, the marriage is now ruined because the wife is nearly guaranteed on the way to get divorce papers. You think men who are afraid that the child isn't theirs suddenly don't care about the relationship? If they didn't care, they would not care if the baby is theirs or not either, they would just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:44 PM
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It's really not a lot of money. Especially if you compare to hospitals in USA and their extremely inflated "pricing" for basically everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:41 PM
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The simple act of insinuating that someone is gay is a MASSIVE INSULT in many cultures and societies And that's what I am questioning. Someone coming up and calling you gay to your face, sure that is a deliberate insult. I don't see how them adding a trans person into the lineup is comparable to that, though. And in the first place, even if someone insults you, it's up to you how you're gonna take it, and you are also probably gonna be judged a whole lot more on that than on the fact that you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:26 PM
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Well, for starters, I don't think I've seen you engage with someone even once without twisting or adding your own spin to their words
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:28 PM
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Is this actually just a bot? Suspended account and very LLM sentence structure and word choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:10 PM
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The content is staged, the reactions to it here aren't. I gotta actually give Lilith the credit for this one, because any possible disrespect there is for providing options that don't fit the guy's sexuality is way lesser than aggressively popping the balloon before the show even gets started.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:51 PM
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I'm sorry, but how is that an insult, exactly? Even if they actually know his sexuality, how does the simple act of giving an option become an insult? Especially when the reason they did it is simply to try to get people to watch in any way, and has nothing really to do with this individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:48 PM
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An ugly person trying to be confident comes off as annoying. I don't think we have the same view of what confidence is. To me, someone confident would act self assured, calm and not nervous, without annoying performative "peacock" behaviour, which I would rather refer to as arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:36 PM
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You do know not all sex is intimate, right? Like so-called pity fucks which often just leaves both people unsatisfied. So I don't think your crusade here is worth much, because sex without intimacy is not that different from masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:13 PM
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What you are describing here is different to what is usually meant by cuckold. A cuckold is either someone who is unwittingly cheated on, or someone that is into being cheated on. Being in a casual / open relationship kinda by default means it is not cheating, but you can of course still play into the fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:52 PM
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OP, I don't disagree with your overall point, but not having "misandry is bad, misogony is worse" is really hurting the post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:13 PM
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Are children responsible for raising themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:51 PM
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Sure. You are not talking about grown men though, you explicitly said "while growing up".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:40 PM
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When they are children? That's not exactly the kind of non-nasty behaviour you seem to preach
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:51 AM
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An adult doesn’t need everything explained to them while growing up. They figured it out by observing. You can criticize adults for lacking all you want, but if you criticize people who are growing up, you need to look at their parents, schooling and other sources of social inheritance to really make your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:50 AM
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Men who are neurotypical do not struggle with learning social skills I think most people struggle to some extend with social situations, which comes down to social skills, neurotypical or not. Yes, it's usually harder for neruodivergent people, but saying that neurotypicals don't struggle either doesn't seem right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:38 AM
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You had me unsure until now, good one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:53 PM
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Yes, if it is incapable of parody
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:52 PM
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Take this as a possible outlier, but as someone with autism (again, might be an outlier among autistic people), I'd rather have a stable FWB than an asexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:26 PM
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That's a bad comparison. Looking at porn is less personal than doing porn. One happens in the privacy of your own room (or the toilet, or wherever), the other is a public thing everyone you know are aware of
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:20 PM
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Men who are constantly trying to be funny come across as pathetic, and they completely turn me off. You are making a point about self deprecation, but here you are also saying that men who "constantly" try to be funny are a turn off (for you), which brings the question, what do you consider constantly? Because in general day-to-day interactions, I don't see how someone trying to be funny would be a bad thing, even if they do it whenever they see an opportunity. It's only when they try to be funn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:10 PM
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Okay, I will be honest (and 28 days late). If I saw this but the opposite, I would literally scroll past without leaving a comment. And I wouldn't think the guy did something good or funny, no. I'd probably feel less strongly about it, true, but the feeling would be the same. To take it one step further, while watching it, I'd probably think something akin to "she looks like she is happy to be approached, that's pretty cute" with a side note of finding her antics slightly cringe (if she acted li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:28 PM
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The women on this app are shape-shifting. You can’t easily tell who you’re actually attracted to. Most profiles are weird angles, filtered, obscured, low-effort, misleading, or context-free. You match with “interest,” not clarity. It would be nice if you could tell what these women looked like in a bikini, but you can't. For some reason on this app, you need more information about what they're like in real life, or how much other men want to date them in order to understand how hot their bodies …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:55 AM
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I am an advocate for just being more openly honest in any situation. But you can be honest and still be polite / not rude. Publicly rating anyone a 4/10, not to even mention your own wife, is not honesty, it's being a dick. You can keep your mouth shut without being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:26 AM
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Alright, if you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:28 PM
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I don't agree at all. When someone says "I wish people were nicer", they could perhaps be hypocritical, but why would they lie? And you say hatred is the most effective motivator for people. Do you really think someone helps homeless people because of hatred? That is the exact opposite of hatred, at worst, it is greed (for clout). And why do you think there are homeless, starving people to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:22 PM
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Are you sure you know what virtue signalling is? How is saying what is basically "I wish everyone was nicer to each other" virtue signalling? Maybe it COULD be argued that it was virtue signalling if they had said something like "I wish everyone was nicer to each other, so I always give people the benefit of the doubt", but even that is a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:15 PM
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Besides your example of previous female leaders, all your other examples are from the last 200 years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:01 PM
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I was responding to the person that says people into fetish stuff gives him the ick, saying that he probably knew quite a few people who had read 50 shades without being aware of it. It's not about anything else, I am not here to discuss 50 shades itself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:54 AM
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Everybody who started reading it knew what it was. Whether they specifically enjoyed 50 shades or not doesn't matter, my point is that they chose to read it, knowing that it was basically a smutty BDSM book
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:15 AM
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There's another problem with the term. A lot of people seemingly use it beyond the meaning of "involuntarily celibate", and use it to refer to people who are creepy/weird/other
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:04 PM
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Perfect, so you are interested, and so you pay your part of the tab, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:55 AM
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That was an example of something extreme though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:49 PM
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I am not trying to invalidate this at all. But most crimes involve weapons, so it doesn't matter if you can bench two cars, if someone is threatening you with a knife, you are in just as much danger as anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:39 PM
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What do you expect them to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:37 PM
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Though I have to obey people (mostly men) for at least 8 hours a day And would this be better if you had to obey women? Also, do you live in USA? Throughout both my schooling and work, I've seen at least 50/50 gender ratio, if not more female skewed (although that may be because of the field my current company is in). My current boss is a woman. My boss' boss is a woman. Three quarters of all of the head ofs and team leads are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:29 PM
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Misandry may not be as overtly harmful as misogyny This statement doesn't invalidate the harm caused by misandry. The threats women face because of misogyny are fare more harmful than being denied opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:23 PM
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I haven't encountered these types of people in my own experience, they sound more dangerous Can you elaborate on this? What do you think sounds dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:17 PM
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Do you mean financially or biologically? Financially, healthcare should be free (read: paid by taxes)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:05 PM
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I don't think it's fair the other way around either. Both parties should pay for themselves. Barring unique circumstances, adults should take care of themselves, including financially
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:03 PM
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No, you should pay because you accepted going on the date. If you don't want to go on the date, or in other words aren't interested in the person asking you out, you shouldn't accept going on the date. So it's a two-way street
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:58 PM
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"I'm only using 5% of my power!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:11 AM
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Do they exist? Probably. But someone who has sex for the first time won't know what to do the same way someone who has had it regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:03 AM
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Maybe a major male figure in their lives could help out young boys a lot as well? Such as.. a father to show that helping out around the house is a shared obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:26 PM
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I think the main reason Japan has a dating/birth crisis is because of the working culture. You can't really build a family if you have no time for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:48 AM
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Doesn't matter if you have the guy you want or not. If you're in a position to cheat, you should have ended the relationship. If you haven't, you don't fuck anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:43 AM
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Just a few days ago I saw a woman on reddit say she got the ick because her boyfriend was hesitant and timid during sex. That seems to fit in with what most women seem to want, which is assertive men who knows what they're doing. Those men are not virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:40 AM
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How about... Both are wrong? They don't cancel each other out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:35 AM
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No one here said autistic men cannot be selfish assholes. But everyone can be selfish assholes. It has nothing to do with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:04 PM
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You: It’s not a false diagnosis. They just don’t want to learn social skills nor empathy I claim it because you, despite having it pointed out for you that being selfish and an asshole is not even remotedly linked specifically with autism, keep defending the assumption that diagnosing people who are selfish assholes as autistic is not a false claim. Also because you referred what I once said in a previous comment, which I assume was where I discussed a similar topic with someone who did claim th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:27 PM
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I repeat, you have zero clue about autism. It is not simply being childish. Even as children, autistic people are very different from other children. Some of these ways lead to specific delevopments being delayed or stunted in ways that could be perceived as "childish", sure, but it's NOT the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:21 PM
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There is a big difference between struggling with something, and being unable to do something. Are you honestly here to discuss, or do you just want to troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:19 PM
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but dont think autistic people are capable of learning social skills and empathy. What? I claimed the opposite. It's you who are claiming that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:16 PM
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I didn't say it did. I'm just pointing out that maybe Superannuated_punk isn't as aware of who is a "greasy, perpetually hornt-up sex nerd" as assumed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:15 PM
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Listen, do you have autism? Does your job have you working closely with autistic people? Unless you can answer yes to this, just be quiet, you have zero clue what you're talking about. If you CAN answer yes to this, I hope it's not you working with autistic people, because then I pity them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:32 AM
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Look at you two circlejerking each other, marvelous /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:30 AM
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Did I get that right? Are you actually saying sexually unsuccessful people are rapists? What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:29 AM
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This is exactly proving Fan_Service_3703's point. No one is expecting you guys to cuddle autists or autistic men for all their lives. But at least try to understand us and have a little empathy. That seems to be lacking for a lot of people in here, but then again, very few people here seem to be here in good faith to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:27 AM
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You literally have it in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:26 AM
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That is a lack of being able to indetify and understand which emotional state others are in; that is not a lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:13 AM
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You clearly have no idea how autism affects people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:12 AM
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Almost guaranteed at least a few women in your family has read 50 Shades of Grey
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:10 AM
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You are singling out specifically "pick me's", but your overall argument works for the opposite too, and I think that's worth considering. I've seen at least a few stories of women saying something like they'd dating a cute guy that they liked, but their friend group nitpicked this and that and raised the bar impossibly high, and the relationship fizzled out and they they later regretted not giving really giving him a chance at all. So always take advice with a grain of salt
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:01 PM
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I am physically attracted towards you and you must be at least on the same level look wise. Emotionally, does this matter at all? I am fat, I am bald, I am not particularly attractive. I am at most 5/10. I still don't feel attraction for fat women, I very very rarely think short hair looks good, and I also don't feel attracted to women with too bland/unattractive features
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:55 PM
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to find new practices to try with your partner Sure, it can give inspiration, but with most produced porn (as in, porn with a producer, camera crew, and so on) having the dumbest positions imaginable, because apparently it is more important to see a cock going inside a vagina and a saggy scrotum swinging around under a hairy butthole than it is seeing two people enjoying some hot, intimate sex,... Well, you get the point, I can just never get enough of ranting about how so much porn is so god da…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:50 PM
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Their relationship is none of our business, is my take on this. I'd be pretty miffed about it if I was in the husband's situation, but there are a lot of factors that affect just how much of a betrayal of the relationship is really is, including pretty much every other aspect of the relationship. If she is a perfect wife in every way, except she got drunk,high,spiked, or a combo, and kissed someone once? I could get over it. On the other hand, if our relationship is already strained for whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:28 PM
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It's always hard to make a real point with these topics. Because when you say infinite male attention is a significant part of female privilege, those men chose to pay extra attention. So female privilege happens because men act very different around attractive women than less attractive women. What, then, is the root cause here and what point are you trying to make with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:17 PM
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Can you see that placing sex lower in priority than men would make a woman very unattractive to a large swathe of men? Does this mean that this hypothetical woman should compromise and make an effort to be more sexually active in order to be more appealing to men? Anyway, if you take the deadbedrooms subreddit as an example, a very insignificant amount of posters there are women. So having a higher libido than your partner, and your sexual needs not being met, is far from exclusive to men. I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:18 PM
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Society also does the same when it comes to men who like being around kids. You want to pretend there’s not a reason people will be weary of that? Oh there's a reason, but it's a shitty one, and I believe this stereotype is directly harmful. All the fearmongering and wariness surrounding men around children leads to men being less likely to interact with them or take up jobs like teaching. So it results in children having less male role models. All because of a massively overblown concern about …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:02 PM
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Saying that a group of individuals who do something ruin something for a larger group is the opposite of putting them all in the same box. It very directly puts them into two distinct boxes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:54 PM
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You just choose to collectively put all men in a box. She did no such thing. The title explicitly says "men who claim touch is their love language are a yellow flag"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:52 PM
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Maybe this is an autism specific thing, I wouldn't know. But personally, I am very "touch averse". It's not like I go into hysterics because of it, but I just find it awkward and unnecessary to do hand-shakes, hug people and so on on typical social situations. I would melt into a puddle if someone I was into played with my scalp (that's right, I'm fucking bald), my earlobe, stroked my back etc. So, unless this is an autism-only thing, I do not think men who likes physical touch as "love language…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:45 PM
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If you couldn't care less what she does that doesn't affect you, why would you be in a relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:39 PM
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You can be confident in a specifc outcome, which means you are certain of that outcome happening. This is different from having confidence in yourself, which is what most people mean in this subreddit. And although perhaps a lot of people here are overrating the importance of self-confidence as a "cure all", it does matter, and not just for dating. Having self-confidence doesn't automatically mean you'll see more success in either dating, friendships or career, but it helps you get out there, sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:34 PM
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A lot of men here also argue in bad faith, to be fair, which doesn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:29 PM
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You are mostly right, but why are you framing your comment as if OP was trying to justify that other people deserve to suffer for their own experiences? I don't see that happening at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:22 PM
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Agreed. And with more empathy for men in general, we could start trying to raise young men better. Right now, a lot of stuff seem to demonize anything related to male sexuality, so lot's of young men never learn to express it in a healthy way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:16 PM
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Porn is made because of money. The only people who make porn for anything other than money, do it because of exhibiotism or similar kinks. Porn does not satisfy men's libido in any respect, it only intensifies it with no further outlet. Incorrect. The libido is satisfied when men reach orgasm. Surely you've heard of post-nut clarity. As much as it's memed about, it happens pretty much every time a man orgasms. And during that window after the orgasms, the sexual aspects of stuff like porn just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:14 PM
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But men are wired to want to nut in a "variety" of women everyday. Says who? You? I personally do not feel this urge. If I see an attractive woman, sure, I'll be attracted to her. If I see multiple attractive women in a day, sure, I'll be attracted to all of them. But it's more a reaction than a "biological wiring" that somehow gives me the urge to specifically inseminate multiple different women. It's just that for presumably a lot of, if not most, men, they have an active libido that makes the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:09 PM
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Putting aside the fact that you didn't answer my question, marriages shouldn't operate on pure trust. Marriages often fail, and you should prepare for that possibility. You can do that without actually believing it will fail, and hoping you're both gonna grow old together. So stuff like prenuptials are perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:01 PM
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You've done it. you have taught an entire generation of men that their biology is wrong. That a male's sexuality is a shameful disease. How dare you want to have sex?! How dare you use the porn we eagerly shove down your throats?! How dare you think women wearing no clothes is immodest?! Women can dress and act HOWEVER they wish! This doesn't check out. The majority of people demonizing men's sexuality are women. Everything you stated here is mostly something women think. You're just a lazy virg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:53 PM
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So would you, or do you think she would be, against such a man requiring a strict prenup?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:48 PM
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If not taking an opportunity to make a lot of money at the cost to yourselves is immoral, then does that mean not taking on multiple jobs to make even more money also is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:46 PM
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What exactly do you think her motivation for wanting a partner that makes 7 figures is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:40 PM
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In that case, shouldn't we first look at the billionaire oligarchs who, instead of using even 10% of their wealth for making the world better, use it to just make EVEN MORE FUCKING MONEY at the expense of everyone else. Who the fuck needs more than 10 million USD? Anyway, let's not tell people they are morally wrong for not doing something that is very likely to entirely fuck up their relationship when billionaires exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:13 PM
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Are you seriously saying "making fun of" and "criticizing" are the same thing? This subreddit is impossible with all the presumably bad faith discussion going on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:50 AM
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You're not making any points or arguments with this comment, and also do not seem to understand how much biology affects sexuality. What makes you gay or straight literally does point down to "who am I sexually attracted to." Whether you find EVERY part of that demographic sexually attractive or not, does not matter at all. So not only are you wrong, you're also apathic. How do you expect to convince anyone if you're not even trying to understand their side? Keep cringing though, you're real coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:52 PM
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Many celebrities being autistic might be true, but many celebrities are also very odd. What you call "chads" typically does not refer to celebrities, but rather people who are very confident, outgoing and successful, be it school or career. And no, many of those people are NOT autistic. Comparing us normal people to celebrities doesn't really make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:21 PM
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Come on man... Fine. Would you rather shag 1980 Shelley Duval or 2010 Scarlett Johansson
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:18 PM
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Would you rather shag Shelley Duval or Scarlett Johansson?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:02 PM
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If you think of a homeless person, you probably imagine a man. If you think of a construction worker, you probably imagine a man. If you think of a soldier, you probably imagine a man. So what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:54 AM
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If [...] then yeah that is mens fault ...blame those who commit the crime You didn't explicitly say all men, but you are pointing out the entire male gender and then saying to blame them. Basically the same thing. Why not just say, blame rapists, blame abusers, etc. Yes, the majority of people who do this are men. But just like women are not a monolith, neither are men. So either we focus only on the actual perpetrators, or you are indirectly, but still obviously, putting the blame on "all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:39 AM
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Yes, I agree there needs to be more pushback against misandry, at least here on reddit. But... I'm not sure we should take inspiration from South Korea. From what little I know, it sounds like you don't have much, if any, actual experience with being a woman in South Korea. Not that I do either. But it sounds like the situation for women in South Korea is genuinely worse than for men, so the backlash against feminism there is not warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:21 AM
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Holy shit, you think autistic people can't form connections with their own child? I didn't even think that was in question. Of course they can
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:16 PM
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Are you not understanding what I wrote? I literally described how I personally think social connections matter and you just glossed over it. Also, I literally have autism. So no, I am VERY familiar with all the ways it limits me. I don't think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:10 PM
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What do you say makes a good father? In my opinion, it's someone who can guide the children and be there for them to support them, to make it concise. Where do social connections fit into that? As long as the father can get along with the parents of other children, help his children with their hobbies and so on, he has fulfilled the "social aspect" needed in regards to his children. Autistic people are fully capable of that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:51 PM
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I agree that men, or anyone for that matter, who stay in relationships with toxic or abusive partners partially do have themselves to blame. But you aren't addressing the circumstances of a man with an abusive girlfriend/wife properly. He will, by default, be considered in the wrong for the majority of his friends, and maybe even his family. When a woman slaps a man, people are far more likely to think the man must have done something to deserve it than they would of the woman if the situation w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:35 AM
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Excuse us, some of us prefer big butts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:24 AM
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Just to play devil's advocate, if the majority of people on this subreddit is an indication, most dates are done with the expectation of the man footing the bills. So if dinner, drinks, hotel rooms etc. are involved, money is definitely exchanged in a similarly one-sided way in a lot of cases
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:43 AM
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there is a guarantee of the opposite. Bullshit. I do agree that there is a higher chance that autistic people make worse partners than non-autistic people, but not to the extent you are describing. And autistic people absolutely can make and feel connections. It might be more challenging for them, but just like with any disability, it just requires a little adjusting. I am not saying autistic partners are 100% good partners, but the well adjusted autistic people just being more awkward, less abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:23 AM
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You got your reason as a response to your first comment. As one of those socially awkward, introverted, autistic men in question, you're not going to run into us at random because we don't go out that much. And you might also not notice the majority of those you meet, because we don't stand out compared to more outgoing, less awkward people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:07 AM
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Well, this ended on an entertaining note, if nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:07 PM
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Interesting comment you have there. Now switch the genders, and you're really close to understanding how a lot of men also feel, and how they struggle with feeling unwanted. Good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:02 PM
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That's when school officials called him to the principal's office. "That's when the principal proceeded to tell me that it wasn't appropriate that he was writing the note and that if he writes another note, they are going to file sexual harassment charges on my 9-year-old," Uhm. Shouldn't sexual harassment charges be filed by the involved party? Sounds like the teachers / principal are a little egalomaniacal, on top of what Sea2Chi said probably being true. Did they even look into what was actua…
/r/MensRights07/10/25 02:52 PM
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It's not inherently about the intimacy between friends, it's that you share intimate detail about someone who isn't you behind their back
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:06 AM
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It still isn't. These are not your details to share
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:02 AM
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I am not. I am treating neurodivergent people as if they usually have more trouble navigating social situations, especially sensitive and/or awkward social situatons, than neurotypical people. And I have autism myself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:43 AM
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I'm not arguing for or against what you said, but I'm not sure how much of it is actually biology versus simple social inheritance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:15 AM
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It's funny you say that, because OP's post is not about men who can't get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:12 AM
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Actually, yes. Society has collectively built up trends that make up what is considerered attractive, interesting, cool, call it whatever you want. I thought this subreddit was for discussing, well primarily sex and gender issues, but the struggles of ND people are closely aligned with those, especially when men arguably are hit harder by having ND traits than women. So I find it very curious that so many people like you seem to not even try to understand where OP is coming from and instead doub…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:58 AM
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You're asking someone with neurodivergent traits whether they sought out someone who ghosted them or started acting differently to ask them why they did such a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:51 AM
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Yeah, this is pointless, you keep making bullshit claims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:00 PM
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Bringing into this world more autistic unemployed losers is not entitlement? Most autistic people I know have jobs. And while it's true that autistic people have specific needs that neurotypical people might not, accomodating those needs is really not much of an issue compared to just how much of human productivity is already being wasted by massive companies having thousands of redundant employees, and government jobs typically being extremely inefficient. What's allowing someone more working f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:30 AM
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If that's what you want, what's the point in a partnership? Can't you just have a string of FWBs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:18 AM
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Apologies for late comment. I see a lot of women talk about faking orgasms and so on. In those situations, how often have these women tried giving instructions to their partner before they start faking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:34 AM
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Wtf hahaha. I don't really buy into many of the more extreme opinions around this subreddit, but the "women do not see average men" is actually being kinda proven right here, that's amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:17 AM
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Fucking hell, you are a piece of work, mate. Take a look in a mirror before you start claiming that neurodivergent people getting children is somehow entitlement. Being autistic > being an allistic asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:08 AM
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As an autistic man, I feel like discussions about autistic men's struggle with dating is often misconstrued. Yes, if autistic men are smelly, forceful, and whatever else, of course that should not be overlooked. But from my experience, a lot of autistic men are NOT these things. Yet it feels like there is something about us that repels people. From what I've gathered so far, it seems like our specific flavour of social awkwardness often comes across as creepy, even if we are not being forceful, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:03 AM
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How would you know they are women beaters if they were never in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:43 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:40 AM
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Having sympathy for someone doesn't mean you shouldn't hold them accountable. What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:46 AM
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Does anyone really identify as an incel?? Also, maybe there's a difference in how we use the term, because to me, it just means someone who can't get into a relationship, or get laid, to put it straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:28 PM
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They don't want to be called incels. They are, per the definition of "involuntary celibate", incels. So when so many people go around and use incel as a way to refer to (typically) men who are misogynistic, unsociable, awkward and so on, you're kinda also insulting people who are merely unsucessful at dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:12 PM
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How would you know? Unless the man asking you out is someone in your social circle, you'll never know if he's actually an incel or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:09 PM
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Because men ARE expected to be the ones asking women out. Maybe you are different, but on average, that's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:14 AM
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All you're doing is being offensive. Not really a great way to make a point, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:14 PM
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Yes, but some things are just common sense. You should assume that a car could come when you cross the road, so you check both sides. You should assume a knife is sharp, so you handle it carefuly. You should assume that you are responsible for yourself when going out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:12 PM
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If you're the one paying, that's fine. That's your choice and your money. But your opinion doesn't matter when it comes to someone else's money, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:08 PM
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I am not arguing for or against your point. But you can't equate women's behaviour to men's behaviour in those examples. Instead, you should ask: Does this woman also cuddle her female bestie? Does this women also get massages from her girl friends? Does she also touch her girl friends hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:47 PM
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You made a fair bit of sense until this: The problem is that men go on tons of dates so of course it gets expensive. The solution is not to expect the people YOU ASKED OUT to pay. The solution is to go on less dates or go on dates where nothing is purchased. You know, like girls do. But no… men want us to sponsor their dating behavior. Like, no, fuck off. Like, what? How is women paying for themselves equal to women sponsoring the man for their dating behaviour? That doesn't make sense. And good…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:39 PM
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I'm not sure what you're arguing here. But the men you describe would surely be the type to pay on dates, no? Expecting the woman to pay for herself seems more inline with men who want an equal partner and not just someone to fuck and have clean up after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:36 PM
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You should enter the next olympics, your mental gymnastics are Raygun tier
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:24 PM
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As long as you have discussed it before the date and don't surprise them with the "you pay for your meal" when it is time to pay - then it is ok. And that's the problem right there. Why should you be informed that you'll be paying for yourself? That should be the assumption to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:20 PM
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I have never seen people reach as much in my life as the people on this subreddit when it comes to splitting the bill. Dude, do you honestly think it's vapid and entitled to not want to pay for a stranger's meal? It's not your money, is it? So the expectation that someone else will use their own money to pay for a stranger is literally the definition of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:08 PM
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Really? I see most guys being very open about their preferences if asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:07 PM
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Oh no, I agree, we don't need to be apologetic at all, but being clear about exactly what you mean never hurts
/r/MensRights15/08/25 07:54 AM
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It does matter though, because posts on this subreddit might be referenced outside the subreddit, so better to be clear than allow people to spin what is said
/r/MensRights14/08/25 02:37 PM
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This is why I feel like people who complain about experiencing racism are doing it to themselves. Of course, there are actual racists out there, and of course, there are actual victims of racism out there. But if your biggest problem in life is that you see people more attractive than you in ads and TV, you're pretty well off. Yet they fall over themselves in hordes to find things to be offended about and act like victims. Get over yourselves.
/r/MensRights13/08/25 09:58 AM
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Your personal experiences or those of your close friends don't define the experience for everyone, and you shouldn't generalize like this. You say OP shouldn't make generalizations based on his AND his friends experience, but you do the same with only your own: I've been constantly sexualized, even exploited/abused, by women throughout my entire life. I never pursued those women. Please do not pretend to know or speak for all men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:52 AM
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Yes? Women are the demographic who are targets of, and arguably victims of "objectification", so obviously they are the main part of the discussion. The fuck you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:25 PM
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How am I moving goal posts? Okay, so some men, like you, also use the term, that's besides the point. Most people who complain about the male gaze and objectification are women, and what I am saying is, in most of those cases, the complaints seem to be more about the male sexual attraction itself being problematic rather than how they are treated because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:09 PM
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So what if a woman is posting content where her car shows up in the background and it's a really nice car, so a lot of people are talking about the car instead of what the content is about. Do you think that's similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:05 AM
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Please explain further, because every time this topic is argued, I just can't wrap my head around what people who have a problem with this really are complaining about. (Also, I pretty much suck at being coherent sometimes, but it is what it is) You claim that men who spend a lot of time in strip clubs only view women for their sexual desire. So using the relevant words, are you saying these men are objectifying all women? Because in my opinion, this is not true. First of all, according to a thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:59 AM
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Pretty sure you can become a farmer if you want that lifestyle. Get up at 4am to feed the animals, then get going with the rest of your day :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:35 AM
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Then that is what you should have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:08 AM
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Really dumb argument. There's a lot we have today that we haven't had for most of human history, yet we are here today anyway. Just because it's a recent thing doesn't mean it shouldn't be here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:43 AM
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If every woman you look at, you immediately determine the level of if you want yo have sec with them and then how you treat them (or ignore them) is based on their fuckablity, then you are objectifying them That's not how most women seem to use the term though. It seems like most of the time the male gaze or objectification is brought up, it's about the sexual attraction itself being bad, not the risk of it influencing the treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:20 AM
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Good parents don't want their kids seeing certain things. They don't want them to see nudity. Kindly speak for yourself. In my opinion, nudity should be more normalised. As in casual, no one gives a fuck normalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:03 PM
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If that's the case, do you not prefer just masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:59 AM
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Then it seems like your point is not in line with your title. It seems you are are saying this: 1) Women are attracted to "bad boy" traits. 2) Men are faking these traits in order to be perceived as more attractive. And from that, it seems you are concluding that this means that women don't truly like "bad boys" because some men are faking these traits. But as IntrusiveThot6 says, this doesn't make sense, since that's just how attraction works. Are these women at fault for men deceiving them by …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:57 AM
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I don't quite understand where your anger comes from if you don't really care about the downsides from being circumsized? I am not downplaying having something unnecessary and even potentially harmful done to you without your consent, but if you actually don't care about it, maybe it's not a mountain worth dying on if it is damaging your relationship with your parents?
/r/MensRights17/07/25 10:44 AM
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Guys in this subreddit have asked me if I'm a nun because my rule was to wait 6 months to have sex. As I see it, near everybody in here seems to have a problem with generalizing to "solidify" their points. So I wouldn't be concerned with those comments if I were you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:35 AM
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That was not your question though. There is a difference between "high body count signifies lower 'value'" and "having sex lowers value"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:27 AM
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Like almost everything, yes you can absolutely practice and train behavious that are perceived as charismatic. Changing your personality is another thing, but your behaviour matters more than what you are into and your key traits in how you are perceived
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:59 AM
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No, I am not a woman. And yes, that is what you said. This is literally copy pasted from your earlier comment: Men don't want the women they're interested in to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:11 PM
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Cool. What gives you the impression any of them were already interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:00 PM
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How many men have you approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:40 PM
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I straight up don't believe you. Men being approached by a women they are interested in, nearly every single time, they'd be ecstatic. Of course outliers exist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:18 PM
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If you're attractive and approach your the most advantaged. This doesn't make sense. Anyone doing the approaching is the one at a disadvantage. The woman, in this case, being approached has literally all the power, unless the man is willing to force her, which is a whole other discussion. But the woman is the one who has the choice to either accept the man's advances or reject them. How does that translate into the man being the most advantaged, even if he is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:25 PM
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Men don't want the women they're interested in to approach them. That's their job. And you speak for all men, I suppose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:19 PM
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but it is still important to encourage men to stop engaging in immoral and exploitative behavior, especially when it affects the women they interact with. I encourage you to get rid of any electronic devices you have, only buy locally grown food and only own fair trade certified clothes. Also, you better not have a car
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:36 PM
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Do you still watch Hollywood movies? Then you support the exact same kind of sexual exploitation you're talking against. And you are right that it is far more rampant in the porn industry, but that is an industry problem, not because people are clicking on a pornographic video on pornhub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:31 PM
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I never understood these feminist talking points. How am I objectifying someone by being sexually attracted to them? Could not agree more, I don't get it either. Men bad I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 PM
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You have got to be a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:28 PM
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This isn't him being consciously malicious or looking to exploit women, but the clear result of this attitude is that women will have to do things they don't want to in order to keep an audience. Your entire argument ignores the fact that the average OnlyFans model is not forced to do content, it is something they have chosen to do on their own. There are plenty of alternatives if you're not willing to perform sexual acts on camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:19 PM
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Because he is literally gaining access to the female body on demand Ignoring revenge porn and other similar cases, by uploading a pornographic video to any public site, the people involved are consenting to the video being watched. So what exactly is your problem with this? I could easily say that by shopping in a super market, you are gaining access to the employee's body on demand too. Yes - they chose to work there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:12 PM
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The woman in the clip didn't make this post or ask someone why they would deserve prince treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:56 PM
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You're not understanding the situation. Men who do not trust their partner are already getting paternity tests, or ending their relationship. They are not a part of this. The victims, that standardizing paternity tests could help, are unsuspecting partners who DO trust and love their partner, but have been cheated on and are now either raising someone else's child, or have a partner who has had a child outside of their relationship. Also, what exactly would you "sacrifice" if paternity testing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:18 PM
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If you're gonna ask this question, I also think you should list reasons why women deserve queen treatment in your post, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:09 PM
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This isn't about you. Standardizing paternity tests would help a small subset of married men who are unawarely raising someone else's biological child. And if it was standard, on every child birth, no one would be feeling slighted. It could even help women too. Men would not be able to hide having children with other women than their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:50 PM
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Maybe, but you ARE picking on many individuals here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:10 PM
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Your title states that "women expecting men to... ...pay for a date is not gold digging", yet you don't explain this in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:09 PM
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You might be right, but you are not really disproving OP's statement with that. In fact, I'd say you are helping support it. If her mannerisms appeared less "typically masculine" and closer to more "typically feminine", and that causes less women to be attracted to her, that pretty much means that "typically masculine" is seen as more attractive by the majority of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:06 PM
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I get where you are coming from, and there might really be a double standard here, but picking on individuals about it isn't helping anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:01 PM
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Honest question, what if someone is into BDSM for the control / trust aspect instead of the dominant / violent aspect?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:00 PM
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Most of the time, female friends come to you with their emotional problems. And it’s not just venting, they expect you to listen, understand, and often fix things for them emotionally. You end up playing the role of a therapist, not a true equal in the friendship. This seems extremely biased. Maybe some are like this, but I'd wager the majority of those women just treated you like.. their friend? Just listen and offer encouragement, you don't need to do any more than that unless you are specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:52 AM
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Unless you're willing to enter a relationship, or hook up, with these people, your opinion is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:20 PM
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That's quite a wilfully negative conclusion. It's an objective fact. If you are able to function, even while in pain and/or discomfort, it only impacts your own wellbeing. Is that wrong? I do not believe pointing this out means I lack empathy, even more so with me telling you I have a problem with the amount of medical negligence women face. But the degree of impact is really not the point, even though I was the one that focused on it. The point is that this kind of medical negligence annoys me …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:39 PM
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Depends on what medical issue is being neglected. As I understand it, most of the medical negligence women face is related to pain or discomfort not being taken seriously. Ultimately, pain and discomfort does not directly affect anyone but the person experiencing it, depending on how debilitating it is. Edit: edited section moved to newer comment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:18 PM
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Not directly. It only impacts the man directly if the woman asks him to communicate with medical practitioners on her behalf for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:19 PM
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That doesn't check out. Whether you face threats often or not has no influence on threats being moderated on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:13 PM
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Personally, I get second-hand annoyance (is that a term?) at just how shit women are treated medically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:05 PM
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firetrap's example is a regular cause-and-effect claim where the effect is simply a difference in outcome between women and men. In your example, the effect is directly misogynist by having the man scream "I hate women" and shooting only women. Don't talk about logic, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:50 PM
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What? How does this help... anything? Is she supposed to say "Oh no, my guy, I'm flattered you are interested in me, but you are simply too hot for me, so I have to turn you down."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:18 PM
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Okay, honest question. In your example, you say something that can be boiled down to "reducing someone down to only their 'sexuality'". But say this is about a stranger you pass on the street. You don't know them, so their thoughts, skills, hobbies, whatever makes that person them, has nothing to do with you, and you have no knowledge of it. The only think you know about this person is their appearance. How is this "objectifying" them in this case? I guess I am just struggling to understand why …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:06 AM
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You need to expand on "controlling your sexualisation" because it doesn't make sense. You really seem to put a lot of weight into the difference between being attracted to someone and "sexualising" them, seemingly implying that sexualisation is bad, but I don't agree with that. As I said in another comment, as long as it stays in your head, you can have as many sexual thoughts about someone as you want, and it has nothing to do with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:59 AM
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But why is that necessary? Seeing someone attractive, and noticing that that person sure is attractive, is not a problem. What about that is creepy? The creepiness, imo, would be if you start acting different because of it. And comparing this situation to surgeons operating with boners is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:53 AM
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Don't you ever have macabre thoughts? I guess it's possible, but I'm pretty sure everyone, even you, sometimes thinks macabre, nasty, even violent things. So judging people solely for that is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:50 AM
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Young women getting catcalled is nothing new, so it's not an exaggeration
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:41 PM
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I can't speak for OP, and neither than you (unless you are using duplicate accounts of course). But unless you try to gauge OP's intent, yes, that is literally the question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:28 PM
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Fuck off. OP literally asked her, and she responded
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:05 PM
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Are we seeing the same thing? Because I don't see Downtown_cat_1745 bring up misogyny at all until it was directly asked
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:04 PM
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You implied a lot there without being very specific. Are you trying to say autistic people do not have a personality? Because lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:55 PM
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There are always exceptions. I have autism, and I get along great with other autistic people I knew 10+ years ago, and see once a year at most. Meanwhile, it is so hard for me to click with most people I meet Your friend sounds like she is not entirely comfortable with being on the spectrum, and wants to avoid acknowledging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:53 PM
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I have, I just hold my partners to a different standard. I don't it's that wrong to do so. Just to be sure, this means you have had sex with someone spontaneously before? All our preference would make us hypocrites using that logic By preference, I assume you are referring to a situation where you have been attracted to someone else before. This is not what I called hypocritical. The hypocrisy would be if you have ever had spontaneous sex before and yet claim that women sleeping casually with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:32 PM
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It just sounds like you have an issue with your partner ever finding anyone other than you attractive enough to be interested in them. Tell me honestly, are you the type who would not go for it if, at a time when you are single, someone you found attractive showed interest in you and willingness to have sex with you? If the answer is not yes, you are a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:16 PM
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You are asking very leading questions, are you just baiting for something offensive to be said?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:44 PM
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Someone being in a relationship or not has no say in their ability to determine what they find positive or negative in dates
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:50 PM
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Stuff like "the male gaze" is inherently seen as bad. If women are shown in a sexual light in video games, books, movies, anything, it's seen as objectifying. Yet there are lots of examples of stuff catering to women, although maybe not as much. But some steamy romance books write men just as bad as their "male gaze" counterparts, yet are not villainized the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:43 PM
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Your argument does not have any weight. You listed way too few examples to rule out how many things are turn offs, and what things are turn ons
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:26 PM
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How about you attack those woman instead of a woman on here with a very sensible and realistic take? Not all people are the same. Do you actually want women to be reasonable? Then stop attacking them when they are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:08 PM
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I know OP phrased it this way, but who cares about the sex. You're basically saying that men have to pay for the date to even have a chance to get to further know the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:29 PM
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I think everyone should just split the bill so as to not have 40 different types of expectations with 40 different people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:28 PM
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I can't even tell if this is sarcasm lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:06 PM
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I'm semi-anti redpill not because it's complete bullshit (but likely nitpicked and exaggerated), but because everyone that "takes the red pill" looks like a cult member
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:38 PM
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I only read the first paragraph, and this is definitely pulled out of his ass: The reason why Women initiate the vast majority of divorces is because they will usually end up left in better financial position then their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:00 PM
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I think this might count as scummy behaviour. If you want to just have sex, go for one night stands or the like, not someone who might hope to actually get a relationship out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:14 AM
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No it isn't, it's a boundary you are telling the girl you are dating about, and if she is not willing to comply with that boundary, you and her are not compatible and should not be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:36 AM
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Sorry for replying to a two months old comment, but here is my take: Why should you have to pay for a woman because she didn't have the foresight to be ready to get home when going out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:54 AM
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Harsh phrasing is the only bad thing about the comment you replied to, it's much worse denying whatever little appreciation dads get.
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