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CMVDutifulRye696/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:32 AM
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Question For WomenDutifulRye696/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:45 PM
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ScienceDutifulRye696/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:16 PM
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DiscussionDutifulRye696/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:12 PM
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DutifulRye696/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:42 PM
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I think it's possible to be in committed relationships with multiple people, albeit rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:47 PM
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Yes, as I said, hook-up culture is the issue because of the surrounding cultural issues. I'm not claiming sex alone is a terrible thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:57 PM
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If you look at the effects widespread promiscuity has had since the 1960s (both physically, mentally and socially) I think it's pretty clear it's a strong negative. I'm not talking about sex before marriage, I'm specifically referencing hook-up culture and meaningless sex in general. I think we should return to a society where having sex with those whom you are not romantically involved with is generally looked down on socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:02 PM
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Being a slut is bad whether you're male or female. The idea that "slut shaming" is a negative thing is ludicrous, as a society we should reject promiscuity no matter who is the promiscuous party.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:39 AM
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To compensate for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:00 AM
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Who doesn't like acts of service? Honestly I'm indifferent to them. They make life easier sure but I don't feel someone loves me because of them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:58 PM
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I see that with my parents tbh, my dad's is acts of service 100% and my mum's is quality time (to a lesser extent physical touch). Both of them think it's modern mumbo jumbo so are unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:33 PM
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I agree 100%. My ex bought me a plant for our first date because I said she I didn't have any in my house (I bought her a local food she hadn't yet tried so it was reciprocated), and that was sort of nice; but hugging/holding hands had me on cloud nine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:18 PM
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This is exactly what red pillers say when women mention how they don't fit into their paradigms...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:52 PM
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I disagree. It's how I show affection even to family members, and romantically it just makes me feel relaxed and loved in a way nothing else does. I'm male by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:37 PM
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I'm a man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:26 PM
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I hope that's true, because if it's not just me feeling this then the world has potential to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:13 PM
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The only way to really tell would be some kind of poll. It just seems crazy anybody wouldn't think that person is objectively attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:03 PM
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Second and third one wouldn't usually matter with a guy, and the first is an active plus. At least from what I've seen/heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:56 PM
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I didn't see there was. However I've seen people (usually feminists) twist people's words in that way before. Therefore I added an addendum to your original comment, which for the record I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:37 PM
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Because otherwise bad faith commenters will interpret what you said to suggest that DV is acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:23 PM
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I only know the first two, but tbh David Gilmour young looked a fair bit like the guy the OP posted just clean shaven
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:10 PM
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Yes absolutely. For me a friend is someone you would be willing to die for, and romantic love is a beautiful thing that happens a handful of times in one's life. I have no interest in collecting people or experience like gemstones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:09 PM
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I mean "threaten" in the legal sense. That is, make the victim apprehend unlawful conduct like violence or false imprisonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:06 PM
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Homosexual men tend to be into different things depending on whether they're a top or a bottom from my experience. Some would go for a hairy lumberjack, others for a twink. At least that's what I've gleaned from talking to gay acquaintances. What would you consider an extremely physically attractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:38 PM
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But to be very clear a man never has an excuse to threaten her in any way. He should just say, calmly and clearly "you are entitled to dress however you please, but if you want us to be in a romantic relationship I would like you not to wear revealing clothing". She can then choose to accept his demand, qualify it with one of her own, or break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:35 PM
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Speaking as someone who doesn't have a pill per se, it's not that I can't pull women. It's that most people don't seem to want deep, meaningful connections anymore. This extends even to friendship and, were I a homosexual, I'm sure I'd feel the same thing about men. If you read even published journals from a hundred years ago, people connected far more deeply and relationships were built on far less superficial foundations. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:34 PM
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No, because studies have repeatedly shown that confident, dominant men get more promotions and make more money anyway. Dark Triad traits are also correlated with high/IQ and performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:31 PM
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It's pretty simple. If you have a boundary about your partner wearing revealing clothes when you're not there, state it. They then get to decide whether to abide by this boundary and stay in a relationship, or break up with you. It only becomes unethical when there is a degree of coercion involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:30 PM
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i am not a homosexual man so i am not interested in that picture. explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:27 PM
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Human rights are freedoms from, not freedoms to imo. So you are free from physical repression or the government censoring you etc., but not things that would require others to put themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:26 PM
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Yup. I don't think it's a gendered thing because I've even seen it in gay couples. People with certain negative character traits are often also very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:11 PM
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No, I would say being into BDSM has some correlation with negative personality traits. Obviously abusers are 100% at fault for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:22 PM
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obviously you want a few men for population diversity, but yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:21 PM
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Ah the not touching bit is probably where I'm going wrong then, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:21 PM
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I mean you can see that's false through the rise of Trump and populism (not just right-wing populism) generally. Populism is generally supported by men and is based off emotion trumping reason (not always a bad thing since a purely rational life is not one humans have evolved to live).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:33 AM
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It doesn't you're absolutely right, but I think the traits overlap more than we'd care to admit. I'm a switch but I only like rough stuff as the sub (I love being the dominant one also but I'm more gentle), and it's 100% tied up with trauma if I examine it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:32 AM
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Your comment sounds like a mirror image of men I've heard talking about women with BPD, with the added dynamic your ex was likely capable of controlling you physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:31 AM
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Honestly I'm in awe of anybody who can actually make an omelette. I consider myself a fairly good cook but it always just turns into scrambled eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:28 AM
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The reason why that doesn't happen is that if you had to pick 50% of young people to die, you'd want that 50% to be male. Why? Because via artificial insemination you can easily replace the lost population, whereas if half were female you would be permanently hobbled especially with modern birthrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:27 AM
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the trick is drinking spirits
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:26 AM
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What I'm saying is that most women will never be physically attacked whilst out with their boyfriends because we have the police, guns, laws, etc. Height (and corresponding size) is always better than the opposite in a fight if all else is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:48 PM
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Where would Rome be without the popes? Probably still an Empire since Christianity played a large part in destroying it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:13 PM
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Your entire profile is either A) a well-constructed troll account, in which case good job, or completely lacking in self-awareness. You attack men in the comments section for "misogyny and ableism" whilst openly posting on r/MarryRich, whilst discussing how to emotionally manipulate rich men. I'm 95% sure this is an r/femaledatingstratpros style troll account, and if it is then it's admittedly very funny. But if not then you're clearly an immensely superficial person who is going to be miserable…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:11 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:08 PM
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But our brains and dicks, which are what govern attraction, don't realise that. Tall men don't really keep women safer in a modern society but the human mind and hormones don't work like that. It's the same reason why we binge eat: in the past, it was a healthy behaviour because we may not have had access to food for days. Now it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:06 PM
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I would say move back towards encouraging monogamy and discouraging promiscuity for all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:29 PM
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This idea obscures the disturbing truth which is that women were being forcibly impregnated by conquerors who'd killed their family
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:17 PM
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who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:15 PM
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Yes this is a stupid archetype designed by sociopaths. There is nothing "beta" about wanting to be monogamous and provide for your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:14 PM
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Please read again what I said. T levels are declining only in the West, meaning that rather than becoming a genderless society the West will just end up being dominated by the third world on a global scale
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:13 PM
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The trouble is "Billy Beta" only exists in your own mind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:39 PM
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That's quite a disingenuous way of viewing what he said. If even 30% of men want to get into a relationship but can't, that's already a severe cause of mental health issues in our society. Wanting to at least try and remedy it just makes you a normal decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:38 PM
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No because she's arguing against men in their twenties being single as women prefer older. If women prefer men two years older on average that means women aged 18-27 inclusive will, on average, be dating men in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:36 PM
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• We're heading towards a genderless society. We're not, because our testosterone hasn't been falling globally for the last 50 years (e.g. in Africa). We'll just get conquered and wiped out by a stronger society as has happened since time immemorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:33 PM
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Agreed. I'm in better shape than average and don't think I'm that ugly though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:40 AM
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I'm definitely guilty of that, except in reverse. So I don't have the executive control to pretend to not want a gf in order to get casual sex with women who don't want relationships (at least with me)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:16 PM
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at least I’ve never seen a guy over 6’2 struggle to get a girl. Hello there!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:11 PM
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"slutty man logic" I have no clue what that means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:04 PM
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Male, 19. Make sure they realise how unhealthy watching porn is (different from masturbation) so they wouldn't want to do it. Stop actively preventing them probably at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:03 PM
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But logically every man is an alpha in that case, and there are women in practically every field. So the whole concept collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:41 PM
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So how does the AF/BB thing red pillers mention work then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:49 PM
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Where is Roy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:15 PM
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I'd say she's just average. But if she wore women's slacks she'd be an instant 11/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:14 PM
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Have you tried switching it off and on again?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:13 PM
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Yes, obviously. But you're still dating to get to a certain point, even if you enjoy that process. I personally dislike first dates intensely as they're stressful and confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:38 PM
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I disagree. I believe that marriage is a deep spiritual link between two people and a worthwhile goal to aim for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:21 PM
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Just sounds like a degenerate, not an alpha male. If you're lucky you'll have enough money not to die in the gutter, if not you're not really different from your average street junkie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:20 PM
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True, but it's still incorrect to say I'm looking for a good time. It's like panning for gold and seeing a kingfisher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:43 PM
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So what is the "red pill alpha" to you, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:34 PM
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Technically no, since I got my diagnosis removed by my psychiatrist as I wanted to join my country's army. My application was still medically rejected since my GP saw through it, but yeah. Same with ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:33 PM
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I don't know what to do with this info. I'm just a tourist here in PPD. They're always considered "alpha" characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:32 PM
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In that case pretty much every man is an alpha. The 5'2, socially awkward, obese guy who showed me how to use OOP better last semester is also an alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:10 PM
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Please note I don't actually subscribe to the alpha/beta paradigm: I'm a male who often takes leadership roles (and enjoys taking them), is confident, is ENTJ-T, is 6'4, and does combat sports as a hobby. But I also don't like casual sex and value intimacy and love with one woman. I could see myself being polygamous only if my wife wanted to give birth to fewer children than I: and even then surrogacy is a thing these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:09 PM
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The values held by white people before Christianity came to dominate. I.E. Celtic; Germanic; Roman etc. polytheism and their associated moral codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:00 PM
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But competency differs completely depending on the group. A fisherman is more competent than a farmer in a boat, but the farmer is more competent on a tractor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:59 PM
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By definition an alpha male is someone who is not of the sticking around kind. But traditionally men were often lauded for their "sticking around". E.G. Nasser of Egypt, a masculine figure, for eating at home with his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:58 PM
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I thought TRP just used the terms as analogies rather than claiming our social structure is identical to wolves'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:57 PM
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Why is that relevant? Many people believe in, or are looking for, true love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:56 PM
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I think "a good time" is too superficial a way to describe it. I am looking to make an emotional connection with someone that I will make only a few times in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:47 PM
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Marriage and kids. I'm indifferent to casual sex at this point, I want someone to share my life with. Sex is great and I love it but if I don't care deeply for the person I'm having it with it's kind of bland.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:31 PM
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What do you mean by "without women"? None of my goals atm are really about finding a wife, but if there were literally no women there'd be no point in living since we'd be dying as a species so my goals wouldn't interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:19 AM
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Tell her that if she rejects me in the next 60 seconds I'll give her a thousand dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:47 PM
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I think attraction is emotional as much as physical. I've met and spoken to plenty of attractive women in my life, as an adult only two have made me feel that and that was due to the building of a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:49 AM
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the first one is probably more about her being stranded on the road
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:27 PM
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All the three things you mentioned are about physical strength not gender: I would do all those for instance for a disabled person or an old man the same as I would a woman. Apart from the flat tire one, because I have no idea how to change a tire and am terrible at DIY. If it was a deserted road/hot day I'd stop to see if anyone needed help though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:47 PM
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I have always had a pretty high sex drive. I probably orgasm 3 times a day on average. If I'm turned on for whatever reason, maybe 6 or 7. If I'm busy or burned out, maybe only twice. Most ever was 9 times in one day a few months ago (was sexting someone at the time, she's in her mid twenties and was probably pretty horny for a woman but still nowhere near that), longest I've gone without nutting since I was 11 is a week when I broke my arm. In my experience women want sex multiple times a day a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:44 PM
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That's probably an issue lots of us have to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:36 PM
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Beyond having children and not going to war, there isn't really such a thing. Historically men and women worked together in the fields and did much the same thing, they just divided labour based on strength (men threshed, women collected the corn that fell etc.) Same is true of hunter gatherers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:29 PM
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That's like me saying "men must marry women to be happy" when a minority of men are homosexual. It may be true for the majority, but as an absolute statement it's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:27 PM
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I plan to live on a farm. Also, I learned nothing in school (all learned through books or from home) and I am doing well at college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:26 PM
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No you're not, because you said "the man must lead or it falls apart". That's objectively untrue. If you'd said "in most cases, straight women want the man to take the lead" then you'd be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:01 PM
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As you said, surely people who are naturally less satisfied by sex will seek out new pastures regularly. Because if they were satisfied to begin with, why would they bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:45 PM
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You do realise that was the norm until the industrial revolution right? It's just all 10 kids wouldn't survive because of infant mortality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:44 PM
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Even then if you get married at 40 and 33 (like my parents) and want 10+ kids (like me) that's not going to happen without spending bank on IVF
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:13 PM
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Extreme emotions is feminine. So when a fighter screams in rage whilst weighing in for a fight, is that feminine behaviour? What about going berserk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:12 PM
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Ah no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:23 PM
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Also I'm a man and I find it really hard to orgasm from sex because of phimosis
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:19 PM
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If you're going to claim something about the human body you need to back it up with empirical, clinical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:18 PM
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I think we do need to move marriage and family creation into people's 30s This only works if you don't want a lot of children. Birth defects increase past 40 even when it's the father who is older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:17 PM
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Teen marriage maybe but I've never heard people complain about getting married in your twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:16 PM
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Whenever someone talks about their partner like they're absolut perfection Is this a typo, or do you drink so often that your phone autocorrected to a vodka brand xD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:13 PM
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One of my aunties married a brother What?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:12 PM
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I know several professional fighters who are happily married and never cheat on their wives. DMS is a lie which insults men by accusing us of not being able to keep it in our pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:10 PM
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The man must lead, or it all falls a part. Because she will eventually stop seeing him as a man. There are a large minority of successful FLRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:08 PM
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Evolutionarily speaking, it encourages pair-bonding. Experiencing trauma of some form together is one of the best ways to achieve this: it's why military veterans are often so close to their former comrades. It doesn't only work romantically. Sharing deep personal information and experiences encourages pair bonding in all forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:52 AM
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Is your mother an awful being? What about your sisters? Any future daughters you may have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:36 AM
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You just said "men just don't cry", now you're changing it to "men don't cry over small things"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:26 AM
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Ah no problem. Just curious, what do you mean by "traditional woman"? Because the paradigm of the woman staying home and the man working isn't traditional, it's only existed for 200 years at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:05 AM
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Ah so you're into BDSM I imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:35 AM
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The same?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:04 AM
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The fact you referred to your hypothetical man as "sir"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:04 AM
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Please say you're trolling lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:45 AM
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I am probably guilty of your second bullet point lol. Not that extreme, but once I catch feelings and know she reciprocates I don't really have an off switch in terms of openness, it's very much all or nothing with me (I am 100% respectful of boundaries and never pressure anyone)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:32 AM
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Thanks for yuor comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:30 AM
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Interesting, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:30 AM
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Yeah this isn't a regular thing lol, I'd just lost my virginity and was getting spooned for the first time. Plus I managed to hold it in xD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:19 AM
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Literally what I just said, closeness and knowledge that she trusts and loves me enough to be her authentic self.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:18 AM
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Saying men with high testosterone don't ever cry is ludicrous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:16 AM
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Thank you for your comment, it's interesting and informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:15 AM
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The purge is over but this is lowkey relationship goals
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:09 AM
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The answer is no meds, I'm never in actual danger and the side effects are horrifying. Bipolar 1 normally needs medication, Bipolar 2 just CBT. Agree with the rest of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:16 AM
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I have limited experience but the "doing" tends to be rejecting it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:01 AM
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The last thing I'd ever want to do is scare a woman, let alone one I love, so yelling would never be something I do. More likely when extremely overwhelmed would be crying and/or reaching for a hug. That's what I mean by vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:50 AM
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Interesting, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:28 AM
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Think about it, what do they ACTUALLY gain from that? Well from my perspective, I'd gain a connection with my (hypothetical) girlfriend when she does this, and I'd feel privileged that she chose to share that with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:14 AM
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Lmao. What happened was we went to a cafe first but only wanted water. I drank it whilst talking, and just as I needed to piss she started touching me. So I was holding it in with a boner for half an hour or so. Afterwards I couldn't piss and was standing in her toilet for like ten minutes before anything came out lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:07 AM
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I tend to be somewhat empathetic, but if you actively disregard my advice that tends to evaporate. So if someone (man or woman) is upset about a bad partner I will 100% have empathy for them, but if they actively choose to go back then it quickly dissipates. If I care for someone I get intense feelings of empathy, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:06 AM
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Yeah I 100% agree, sounds like the paradigm I'd be most comfortable with. For context, I've not cried for seven years and have only come close on four occasions (breakup, rejection, my parents splitting up and my dad saying he doesn't care if he lives to see me have kids) so I'm hardly an emotional person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:04 AM
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I've never done any of the last three (not really how I handle stuff in general, I used to but now I just train). In a relationship I'd probably ask for a hug, but then again I'd be hesitant to because of not wanting to get dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:03 AM
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Yeah the first time I had sex I made her cum from head which felt pretty awesome. But I really needed to piss so the actual sex was so-so lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:57 PM
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He does have a point, if your brother takes the basic steps of using inprivate windows and/or burner accounts you wouldn't be able to find them. Sounds like he'd be too proud to do that/would just share his views from what you've told me about him though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:29 PM
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I will 100% shame someone of either sex for claiming neurodivergent people as a group don't deserve relationships, or that they somehow need fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:36 PM
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I would rather date an autistic woman who struggled with social cues than a genuine bitch like you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:52 PM
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Luckily there are men and women in the world with a modicum of empathy who make relationships flourish with neurodivergent people. I sincerely hope you never have a relative born autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:51 PM
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So you're claiming that the best drug free bodybuilders in the world look worst than steroid users who do zero exercise?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:49 PM
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My point is that if 90% of the attention you receive in a space is bad you are less likely to seek out the 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:36 PM
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Autism and neurodivergence can't be "fixed". I hope for the sake of humanity that you don't marry or have children, you are a truly hateful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:35 PM
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Yes, murdering people requires some degree of mental disturbance. This is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:34 PM
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You're born autistic and autistic people are not responsible for "destroying their lives" you ignorant harpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:33 PM
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I wouldn't conflate an ableist bitch with all women. My mother works with neurodivergent children and has boatloads of empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:32 PM
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So you think people with mental health issues don't deserve relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:30 PM
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And if you to a location (like a dating site) and receive a hundred nasty messages, chances are you will not keep looking that hard for one nice message.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:29 PM
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Eh I look for relationships on there and other platforms, met the girl I lost my v card to on there and we were talking for like 2 months
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:20 PM
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But there is little room for comprise since men regard sex as a commodity they deserve a share of. Nevermind that women are human beings, not pussy dispensers. Never mind that men believe that women withhold sex from them out of spite. Never mind that men hold many competing ideas such as “Women only want Chad and the tingles” and “sex isn’t important to women; they don’t understand that it’s a need. The craziest contradiction is how men direct the entirety of their envy and frustration at women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:46 PM
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Some do, a good many won't. If you just talk for a week or two and don't sleep together you'll probably find out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:40 PM
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I wouldn't say I have bad social skills per se, I just come off as eccentric because... I'm eccentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:25 PM
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My mistake, I meant "invisible romantically". You are accurate with your statement. Also I personally find categorising women with those coarse terms crude and distasteful (not attacking you, rather the men who do it). As an aside, I do sometimes get disheartened especially when something doesn't work out, because I feel like (without sounding arrogant) I'd be an amazing boyfriend if someone just gave me that chance to go beyond just dates or hookups. Like, I'll hear women (friends, family etc.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:23 PM
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There doesn't appear to be a general one that I can find besides this. If you can feel free
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:45 PM
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If you were responding to an individual comment that's totally fine, but the fact you were talking to automod implies it was directed against the community entire. Anyway I genuinely hope your brother finds someone and in general has a good life, you're certainly doing a great deal for him (and doing what many others wouldn't) even if you can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:38 PM
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OK so severe mental illness which even then is a) quite rare and b) results in suicide more often than murder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:36 PM
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I like to think most members of society aren't OK with murdering children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:24 PM
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Sexual discrimination under certain circumstances isn't a bad thing. That's like calling women's sports sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:23 PM
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And there we go, you tacitly admitted that my height is a huge advantage in dating. Since only around 2% of men are my height or taller, and only 10% are 6 foot plus, you've just proven that dating is hard for most men. PS I find dating hard because I'm type 2 bipolar and have attachment issues and probably autism, not because I'm short or ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:17 PM
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37% of women surveyed here said they were either exclusively dominant or switches. Through Pain, More Gain? - A Survey into the Psychosocial Benefits of Sadomasochism (uio.no)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:15 PM
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Don't get me wrong there were a few wronguns especially in the post about consent. But overall I've found it a nice and supportive community, even when I posted before (I think you gave me some advice lol, it was about getting rejected after asking a woman out post-sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:12 PM
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Have you ever been on tinder, and if so how many likes did you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:00 PM
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I've spoken to female friends about this, who were objectively average looking and they confirmed it. The first girl I slept with (who was very pretty granted) had literally hundreds of likes daily. I personally find 80-90% of women my age attractive physically, I filter for dating based on personality and lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:44 PM
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Your average woman can get male attention easily, her issue is filtering through men who will be dangerous/abusive. That's a huge issue that I don't have to deal with, and I have empathy for many of my female friends who've dealt with predatory men. However, we also have our own issues to deal with: namely it's extremely difficult to get female attention in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:38 PM
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Not dismissing people's struggles, the same way you're empathetic to anybody who has problems in their life you can't relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:36 PM
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Yeah I have had several female friends, and I don't have any real problem getting first dates or even getting laid. My problem is building actual romantic relationships. Also, I'm 6'4 and maybe slightly above average looking. Most men are invisible to women, if I was even 6 inches shorter I'd be totally screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:35 PM
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Talking to women platonically is fine, I have zero problem communicating with them the exact same as I do men. I 100% get romantic feelings (sometimes randomly, occasionally in response to female interest, sometimes just after talking for a while) but I have no idea how to express them, other than being 100% open; which every woman I have been with dislikes even if they originally reciprocated. Dating isn't easy or natural, for me it's a high stakes game where one wrong step and her attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:22 PM
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I don't understand how you can be so clearly empathetic and emotionally intelligent with your brother (whom we discussed on another post), yet not understand many other men have the exact same issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:19 PM
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You think a cashier woman working 60 hours a week has dating easy? If she opens a Tinder profile she will have dozens of likes within hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:15 PM
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I was similar as a teenager, for me it was really an elaborate defence mechanism though. I really hated myself so I projected it on to other people. Does he like sport? I always found that a good way to relax because it's very simple (still do as a matter of fact).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:52 PM
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Because if he's kind to animals that shows he's not a cruel or mean person, he just finds life confusing and reacts with anger. I was always the same although not as bad from what I can gather from your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:33 PM
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Women tend to find me funny and engaging (assuming I'm in a good mood) at first. It's just if I catch feelings I have no idea what's an appropriate level of interest to show (I understand 100% if she's not interested stop, I just mean when she is interested). And I'm talking emotionally, I find physical boundaries easy to recognise. If I have a crush I will just straight up say so because I have no clue how to judge what's a good level of interest to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:35 AM
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If that's true then why would I change my personality xD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:22 AM
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It's mostly just your metabolism that's described which leads to your build
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:21 AM
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If you basal metabolic rate is higher you have to eat more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:21 AM
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Has he ever actually indicated he wants friendship/sex/relationships? I feel like if he doesn't he may actually be happier how he is, just without expressing it. Also, how is he around animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:21 AM
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As absolutes yeah, as a spectrum no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:50 AM
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People are probably just extremely irrational and confusing to him. Are you older? If so, you're a constant in his life so he probably doesn't view you the same way as others. Has he talked to a specialist therapist at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:40 AM
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You sound like an amazing brother (or sister, couldn't tell from your comment)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:33 AM
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If I were an autistic person or someone with Asperger’s, I would try to find other people like me to be friends with and date, at least as my primary relationships. As an autistic woman higher in the thread explained, this doesn't always work. E.G. I'm 90% sure the last (and so far only) woman I dated was autistic, she still broke up basically because she was scared of her feelings for me (as far as I can tell)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:30 AM
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This sounds like me, I was diagnosed as high functioning autistic as a teenager by one doctor (another basically removed it for me because I wanted to apply to the Army, didn't work anyway). I'm almost insanely confident at times which most people perceive as charisma, which means casual stuff isn't too hard for me. But once emotions come into play I'm fucked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:29 AM
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Female sexuality doesn’t work like that Something like 30% of women are sexually dominant and a large subset don't even like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:27 AM
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I get called eccentric extremely often, but it's just a polite way of saying you're fucking mad (stole the second half of the quote lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:26 AM
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I'm already 6'4 and neurodivergent, and I prefer being who I am. Were I to be just a normal person life would be so radically different I couldn't even imagine who I'd be
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:25 AM
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I'd say you're about 16-17% there, you definitely look decent. I don't know about your genetics since I don't know your diet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:33 AM
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I hate hook up culture personally, if I could just date one woman forever I 100% would
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:02 PM
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And again, raw data tells you little. You can sleep with 100 people but have a very strong sense of not cheating; or sleep with 10 and be a slut
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:42 PM
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I think it depends on context. I don't even enjoy hook ups, right now I'm just having them because my ex made me sad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:42 PM
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Does that not concern you? I'm not in favour of double standards, but even if I were a homosexual the idea of being with someone with 20+ partners would just make me feel disgusted
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:21 PM
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How many of them cheated on you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:20 PM
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I would guess most guys I've been with probably had around 40 partners? That is highly statistically unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:42 PM
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BMI isn't always great for women (or men), because if you're naturally broader or have bigger legs it can be higher than your actual health would dictate. You sound healthy tho, just more likely an endomorph
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:07 PM
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Do you mean you eat more then eat less? If not sounds like hormone issues. Based on that, I'd say endomorph.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:35 PM
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Oh it was the "don't kid yourself" sentence that I misread haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:28 PM
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It's quite controversial how accurate the science is, I'd say it's more of a spectrum than anything. Also it works better for men than women. So I'm not sure. Do you find it easier to build muscle or lose fat, or do you find both easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:27 PM
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I'm a heterosexual male so I'm not looking for older men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:03 PM
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Yeah but some of them also struggle to build muscle. Endomorphs find building muscle OK-ish but also gain fat, mesomorphs gain muscle but not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:01 PM
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Because the point by extension is that most women don't believe they like men who spend a lot of effort on their body, when they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:10 PM
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I don't think men in general are bad at sex lol. I know a few homosexuals for sure who'd disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:15 PM
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We always got taught in sex education to ask for verbal consent, as well as by our parents. Maybe that's a generational thing, but we got shown a video on asking for consent yearly from age 11 to 16
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:14 PM
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Agreed, I'm a man and I cringed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:12 PM
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You initiate verbally by talking dirty, and when you ask if she wants it you cup her cheek and keep tender eye contact etc. But you still make sure she wants it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:41 PM
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Yes, but you initiate by using words to make sure she's comfortable. If you have a good vocabulary then you can 100% make that hot. But if you just jump straight in there's a risk you'll hurt someone badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:40 PM
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Not really lol, then again I always ask "can I kiss you" first. Then would ask again before moving further etc. just in a sexy way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:28 PM
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Men claiming that what constitutes verbal consent is unclear and using it as justification for assault
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:27 PM
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That's true in some cases, but sticking to a clean diet is high effort for lots of people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:15 PM
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Yes but I think predatory men exploit that to get away with shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:14 PM
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It literally is asking though. Half of them are questions. Obviously if the convo goes "I want to fuck you so bad" "Oh yeah? Come get it!" that's consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:13 PM
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I think it was more that your comment implied you're a rapist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:12 PM
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Never once did he say that. He's saying that the body type most women like takes a significant amount of effort to achieve (without PEDs). Unless you're referring to one of his comments: I speak only about the post per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:51 PM
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It does for most men. Out of interest are you male or female, and how often do you train?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:46 PM
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Men on steroids who don't exercise will not gain more than natty lifters, that's horseshit. Of course it helps. Also, the only way to naturally max your T as a man means planning your diet, sleep and exercise, once again proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:14 PM
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Yeah, bad genetics are usually just good genetics for endurance and poor genetics for muscle growth. An ectomorph can still gain muscle he will just have to either take PEDs or put more effort in than a meso or endomorph
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:10 PM
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I think you're partially correct, but this paradigm applies to people who don't train seriously. I know female PTs and bodybuilders, of course they understand how training works and what you have to do to get what physique. Also I have male friends and family members who are not athletic/don't care about their body and are completely clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:59 PM
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It doesn't, he's saying that women underestimate how difficult it is to achieve a lean, but not particularly muscular physique. Imo this applies to people who don't train, not one sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:58 PM
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How dare you! My PB is 2 minutes five seconds!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:52 PM
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haha get framed wench #basedandredpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:52 PM
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The OP's point is that being "lean and in shape" requires a great deal of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:49 PM
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I think you like me not telling you what you like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:47 PM
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If you just want a six pack and to fill out the chest/arms/shoulders in a T shirt, not hard work lol A visible six pack means sub-14% bodyfat, which if you're an ethnic European and/or endomorph can be pretty tricky for many people. Decent chest/arms/shoulders equally is hard for east Africans/certain other ethnicities/endomorphs. Not impossible, but requiring careful dietary planning and training 6 times per week unless you're genetically gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:46 PM
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I mean even a relatively lean physique can be tough to maintain for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:44 PM
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It's pretty hard for some people to grow yeah, just depends on your body type. I'm lucky to be endomorphic meaning I can put on a little muscle fairly easily, but I find it really hard to get abs for instance. Then again, I train for my sport because I love fighting, looking and feeling better is just a side effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:44 PM
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Tbh I've met some bodybuilders who were phenomenal cooks, spices and herbs are mostly zero-calorie, and the most flavourful protein sources (organ meat and oily fish) are also very good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:31 PM
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Even then I'm sure there are atheistic men who as you described don't want casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:05 PM
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There is 100% a middle ground, and also not all religions encourage sexual repression
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:01 PM
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Yeah I was referring to consenting adults rather than statutory rape lol, obviously there are predators of both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:00 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:56 AM
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That makes you a woman with standards, not a femcel. A femcel is a woman who can't get sex even without standards/being OK with casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:52 AM
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Married women regularly hitting on guys sounds bad full stop lol (and the reverse ofc)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:06 AM
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Thank you, I agree it's just down to whether she wants to change things :) Also what do you mean by "essentially a femcel"? I feel like 95% of women can get sex relatively easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:03 AM
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I'm going to assume you're serious since the Purge is over- you can find love at any age. My mother has been destroying herself in a loveless marriage for 20 years and I seriously hope she can find love even at past 50. All that I mean is a man who wants biological children deeply isn't going to pursue a relationship with a woman who is too old to have them. Got nothing against you as people lol, nor are we saying you're unattractive or incapable of finding love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:51 AM
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Only white women? Do you think it's a cultural thing or an ethnic one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:49 AM
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I don't watch porn, and most of the time I read it (pretty rare) the woman is dominant over the man, so no real male on female violence there. From experience, I'd say I was good at giving head but the actual physical piv part is hard to get used to as an experience- it's a physical manoeuvre you have to learn to do. It probably helps I prefer giving pleasure to receiving though, because it makes me more patient. What would you say is the baseline for being good in bed, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:46 AM
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Interesting, guess age gaps do work both ways then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:41 AM
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Yeah, ironically I've really had experiences with two women, one of whom I dated but didn't sleep with (only lasted like a week of being official lol) and the other I slept with but didn't date. I'd definitely rather have lost my virginity to the one I dated but didn't sleep with. Tbh I still have feelings for her. Certainly I felt the pressure to just lose it and get a weight off my shoulders since being a virgin felt like an abdication of manhood in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:40 AM
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My body count at the time I was last dating was 1, that was what they didn't care about. When I started dating a couple were shocked I was a virgin because I seemed more confident, one kind of fetishized it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:30 AM
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Read the title lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:30 AM
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were they quite old when this happened? like 50s? I imagine the men would have to be either quite young (early 20s) or childfree for this to be OK with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:26 AM
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the post is a question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:25 AM
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I can see why that would be the case. Most women I've discussed it with just haven't cared
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:21 AM
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Do you mean my assertion is disproven by data, or just no studies have been done?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:20 AM
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yeah but the one difference is women can't have kids really past 45 but men can
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:19 AM
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im currently talking to a woman from tinder who's 27 (im 19) and wants to hook up, doubt I will though as she lives kind of far. besides that yeah all my age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:19 AM
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would you say you're representative?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:17 AM
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I have 3 friends who dated or married much younger men wdym much younger? like 5 years or 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:16 AM
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such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:15 AM
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isn't the wall just for having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:15 AM
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And what you class as attractive. Nazguls get me going
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:15 AM
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Fair enough, but all young men don't even watch porn. I think young people are worse at sex since they've had less of it. We're not dangerous lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:05 AM
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Twas a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:04 AM
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Your wife already did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:37 PM
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Don't have a plan for exactly where yet, too many variables. I know the type of place though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:47 PM
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Getting permanent residency in the USA is the hard part. I calculated that on my future probable wage I'll be able to fully own a house and 30 acres by the age of 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:36 PM
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Take rural areas of pretty much any red state, if you make as much money as I will in a few years working remotely it's golden
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:35 PM
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As a bi woman did you go for women of that age range as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:12 PM
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NFL boring Jokes aside I am pretty bad at sex so fair
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:12 PM
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I legit have felt used for dick sometimes and it’s not as good as you’d think. that topic was my first post here lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:12 PM
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I personally think women are generally attractive between 18 and 45, at least to me at my age. Some stay hot after of course
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:03 PM
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Personally I'm not introverted at all, I just hate dance music and pointless carnality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:02 PM
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I get probably 30 matches per week now on Tinder, and I've never had a match on Bumble despite my profile being way more thought out/funny there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:45 PM
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What apps? For instance I've learned never to assume someone is looking for an LTR on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:55 PM
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After this summer I'm done with it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:59 PM
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So, my point was that, for most people, training, music, etc. are more fun in environments that are welcoming to all sorts of people, not just men. My gym is extremely welcoming to women, it's just that for biological reasons women are far less likely to actively enjoy getting punched in the head than men. Also, I'd never hit on a woman at the gym. My mind is as far from sex as it's possible to be there. But I do take your point, I think online dating is just linked to nightlife culture more
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:06 PM
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I train at the gym I train it to be the best fighter I can be, not to meet women lol. As for where I live it's an industrial city in England, and for my music I don't go to a studio as it's too expensive. I'm also not gonna change to a less heavy style to pick up girls lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:53 PM
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Generally professional women are in their mid to late twenties (same as professional men, you have to study for a few years to get to that point) and they tend to not go for younger guys. I set my filters from 25-35 and got no matches (I'm 19). Due to my schedule I only date online as I study, work and train all in very male dominated environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:37 PM
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Western Europe is still better than the third world, just not as good as the USA imo (as long as you can afford to live in a rural area of a red state)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:36 PM
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Right now probably certain states in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:36 PM
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I was thinking more peaceful protest being criminalised, crackdowns on freedom of speech, our own people fast becoming ethnic minorities and speaking publicly about it being a fast track to at best a watch-list, the lack of a right to bear arms, increasing crime, decaying public services, skyrocketing cost of living, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah, never taken them. On the bodyguard front, I really enjoy fighting but I prefer sparring/rolling with other MMA guys to getting a criminal record for fighting in the road and not being able to travel/work in my field. On the critique front that could be fun lol. Still not going to a club tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:56 PM
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I mean I'm 19 and felt this about a girl recently, she just had avoidant attachment I think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:54 PM
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Yeah I've had club invites, just declined them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:53 PM
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Oh really? All the women I meet on tinder tend to be into that sort of thing. The one girl I've been really into wasn't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:37 PM
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As a European who wants to get the hell off this sinking ship, based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:52 PM
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I'm not sure what your gender is, but surely you must have noticed that women seek long term relationships over the flings that men desire. Honestly, no. In my experience pretty much everyone I've interacted through dating wants casual things. Although that's most likely confirmation bias since more traditional people are less likely to do online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:17 PM
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Emotion is fuel for the vehicle of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:15 PM
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Ovid (the original PUA) has to be in there somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:15 PM
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Normally a kipper with some salted butter and honey, black pudding, and raw eggs mixed with fruit juice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:19 PM
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I don't eat all those at one time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:02 PM
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Black pudding: either pig or beef blood, pork/beef fat, oatmeal, herbs and spices made into a large sausage and sliced up. White pudding: The above, but without blood. Fruit pudding: The above, but with dried fruit, spices, and sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:56 PM
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and then go back to it with a vengeance when the relationship ends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:24 PM
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worst parts of our breakfast. As a mostly-carnivore, nothing better than fried eggs, black pudding, bacon, sausage, buttered kippers, mushrooms, a grilled tomato, white pudding, fruit pudding and some leftover Haggis. Followed by some weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:46 PM
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honestly its not, im looking for a good mother for my future kids not a supermodel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:44 PM
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W
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:20 PM
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Your US-centrism is showing. In the UK medicine courses start at 18, this is the norm in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:20 PM
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Memes aside, in a woman I'm with I'd say being physically affectionate is a big plus (not only sexual, also eye contact, holding hands, cuddling, sitting close etc.) Also being kind to children and wanting a big family in the future is a major green flag as it aligns with my future plans. Also similar views on sex (that sexual openness and trying new things out is good but it's also something you should do with someone important to you). As well as at least an openness to my religion. In terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:48 PM
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My point is, I find all these ladies attractive enough to sleep with. It's their personalities/lifestyle choices that would decide whether or not I'd date them, not their looks; because as long as you're a baseline of pretty 95% of sexual attractiveness is how good you are in bed imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:44 PM
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Most incels hate themselves, they just project their hatred onto women and "chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:52 PM
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Most likely he treats women as if they are all shallow hypergamous bitches, and is treated with the disdain his behaviour deserves; thus perpetuating the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:47 PM
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This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm only hearing you through a screen and you sound utterly intolerable: self-pitying; stereotyping; somewhat hateful of women and utterly clueless about life. Most people are not like this. A small subset of both genders live the party lifestyle. Many people are homosexual and don't even like the opposite sex. The majority of women I've met at university are dating men seriously. If you are anything like this in real life then both women and men will be repel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:45 PM
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If you mean expressing actual hatred of women, then yes. Because hatred of any out-group isn't going to be expressed with a member of the out-group present unless someone is starting a fight. If you mean sexualising women, then people likely will feel comfortable expressing it in a group of male friends where there's no sexual tension to a greater extent than in a mixed gathering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:41 PM
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You don't owe anyone any more than basic courtesy. If you don't want to speak to anyone and tell them civilly, it's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:39 PM
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money, pay up wench
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:38 PM
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Idk maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:49 PM
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Call me a romantic, I think would be a great love story. Like a mutual "I can fix him/her"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:42 PM
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You said life is hard for unattractive women. If you mean "less attractive than average", I'm considered decently attractive and me and most men I know will date a woman who's probably less good looking than the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:22 PM
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Only if Mitch does lines off their asses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:21 PM
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Ron sleeps with both Melania and Jill regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:04 PM
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I find 80-90% of women my age attractive enough to sleep with, I think men are just hornier
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:03 PM
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You'd have to ask a woman, but they don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:55 PM
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Like most tropes the whole AF/BB thing doesn't make sense, since many conventionally alpha males are also rich or intelligent. Also, most women I've met aren't hypergamous, they just want a partner who will be a good father. Even if female hypergamy were real, restraining consenting adults from sleeping with other consenting adults and not directly harming others is morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:03 PM
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Rollo is a simp, he constantly gets mogged by Ragnar and is too cowardly to openly cuck Gabriel byrne
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:59 AM
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I never said I disagreed with the flair
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:56 AM
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You and your flair have no room to judge me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:52 AM
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you underestimate the power of the dark side
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:49 AM
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Are you trolling because of the purge, or genuinely a sociopath? I can never tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:46 AM
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That man is either wearing a nappy or has balls the size of oranges
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:45 AM
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I unironically find all these women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:44 AM
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first option. most women i know have never had a so called hoe phase
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:44 PM
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aww, do you ever get feral kittens?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:00 PM
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As a kid I had a toy monkey named Chaddy because he was made by Chad Valley xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:45 PM
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This is a fantasy perpetuated by terminally online people. Especially outside of major cities and certain fast social sets, most average men and average women are in relatively monogamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:43 PM
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Ah I get you. Personally my ideal would be one woman for life and 14 kids lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:41 PM
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Completely depends on context. Professional fighters (hell, even amateurs), soldiers, and have a go heroes who protect innocent people on the street will have women want to be with them. Petty thugs and criminals will only be attractive to damaged women (and damaged men tbh). I've hurt other men multiple times in amateur fighting and been hurt myself, it doesn't make me a bad person or a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:08 PM
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Most average women I know are in relationships with average men. And most of my social circle is under 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:01 PM
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Satire? If not, what do you mean by 10/10s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:01 PM
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Honestly when I'm with someone I like I could go to the shop or do chores and I'd still be really enjoying myself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:00 PM
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if you want a relationship but also to sleep with other women that would suggest you're polyamorous. Are you OK with your girlfriend also sleeping casually with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:59 PM
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"chad" doesn't exist though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:59 PM
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More like the cat thinks it's casual you think it's serious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:58 PM
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Not even tall tbh. Face matters way more than height to a lot of girls I've known
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:39 PM
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most combat sport participants etc. Utter bullshit, most people at my gym (which has produced legit world class MMA fighters) would never even think of hitting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:37 PM
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What about homosexuals? What about the women who are attracted to feminine men, or vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:49 PM
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I can't physically wear normal condoms because my penis is legit enormous. Not a brag, just the truth. Most of them were broke just like me as we're all students
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:19 PM
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I'm 19 so all the women I've been with have been around my age
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:16 AM
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everyone around that table is a miserable degenerate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:52 PM
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By attractive, are we talking facially or general attraction? I have no trouble getting casual sex but I struggle to get exclusivity which is something I really want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:50 PM
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I mean there are objectively masculine men who are leftists. Off the top of my head, David Harbour; Paddy Pimblett; Tyron Woodley and that's in literally 2 seconds of thought
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:47 PM
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Very true, especially when you consider probably 5% of Britain and 15% of America is extremely devoutly Christian or Muslim
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:43 AM
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How so? What part of the evidence presented is inaccurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:41 AM
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According to chronometer I consume enough B1. I also only rarely drink those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:56 AM
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what does it have to do with the post i made
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:12 PM
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I'm 6 foot 4 and I have a thing for tall women. Every man is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:24 PM
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I can only say for the last one, I felt she enjoyed sex when I played the role of a dominant, but when I tried being submissive she really disliked it. I don't know how attraction plays into it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:20 PM
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Perhaps. I personally would be happier with just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:00 PM
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Yeah I agree with that, if you're at 10% bfp or less in most cases your testosterone and sex drive will be completely crashed without some kind of PEDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:59 PM
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How on earth would we know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:43 PM
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It's different now but most female fashion models were objectively unhealthy before. Like, their body fat was so low they'd be infertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:32 PM
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I think it's more complex than that. I for instance would rather be sexually satisfied and lonely than sexually unsatisfied and lonely, but I'd prefer a relationship where I can have both sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:31 PM
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I eat a modified carnivore diet with a large amount of pork, and I eat whole wheatberries when I do very occasionally eat grains. So I think I get enough B1
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:27 PM
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I literally didn't say that though? I said I have many of the qualities that idiots assign to "chads", but that I believe those definitions are stupid and reductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:48 PM
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Probably the second one for me, since the two women in question are from different countries (one is an immigrant from eastern europe, the other native). I do agree on your other points though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:00 PM
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Lol maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:52 PM
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huh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:52 PM
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interesting, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:46 PM
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It's not like I'm fending off women with a walking stick lol, I could probably have had 5-6 hookups over the last 6 months if I'd decided to go for casual sex. The second woman I met on Match which is a more serious site afaik
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:52 PM
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Maybe, but I don't see what more I could've done. The last message I sent to her was basically a long one with me saying I accept her for who she is with all her past experiences (trauma from being bullied when she was young), and that I found both her personality and body attractive and would date at whatever pace she was comfortable with. I really don't see how I could have done more to make her feel comfortable tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:50 PM
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I mean only she can answer as to the semantics of what she said, but it seemed to me she was saying she loved their real personalities not some image
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:49 PM
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I actively have to stop myself thinking about marrying a girl I've just started seeing when I'm in a good mood, or thinking about her leaving me when I'm in a bad one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:56 AM
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I in fact have in the past, and came to the conclusion that I'm anxious/preoccupied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:52 AM
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Judo aged 8-14, boxing aged 17-18, now MMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:41 AM
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That's a good shout. The first woman I mentioned I was definitely guilty of coming on too strong, but the second was actually messaging me more, saying how she was really looking forward to see me etc. Then she randomly turned around and decided she's not ready for a relationship, apparently because she really enjoyed our date but she "knows she's going to mess it up/it will all end badly". I don't really have any regrets besides falling too hard since I told her exactly how I felt in her last m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:38 AM
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You literally started off by saying women never love men for who they are though?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:07 AM
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I think it's possible to love someone for who they are and not love them unconditionally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:04 AM
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I feel like I have a huge amount of both when I'm on an up and none of either when I'm down tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:58 AM
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To be fair she was more openly enthusiastic than me originally, she just did a complete 180 from "I can't wait to see you again" to "I'm not ready for a relationship" within 24 hours. But I do take your point. I'm able to just not message someone, but once I'm actually talking when I'm in a high mood I really can't stop myself from being so emotional/effusive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:57 AM
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I think romantic relationships are necessary for most sexually mature humans to feel fulfilled. And in my personal life I've seen women love men for who they are, not just an ideal. So I do know it's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:38 AM
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perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:37 AM
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I have social media but I'm not particularly active. 90% of the people I know irl are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:36 AM
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That's my logic also. But I'm unsure how I'm not presenting myself as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:36 AM
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If you read my post, my problem isn't not getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:35 AM
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Having done my research there is zero chance I am going on meds, as my mania isn't too severe (it just seems like eccentricity, not full on insanity) and there are lots of side effects. Appreciate it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:17 PM
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the whole "real man" shit is mostly just a variation of No True Scotsman anyway. The only thing that defines a man is his chromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:08 PM
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So what do you mean, like showing affection to their partner and stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:58 AM
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Speaking from personal experience as a "larger" man and also someone who experiences sensory discomfort from clothes, manspreading is necessary to avoid physical pain. I can't cross my legs above the ankle without causing pain to my crotch area, and sitting with them close together can also cause discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:37 PM
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emotional labor When you say this, d'you mean in the context of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:35 PM
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Generally "child support" meant strapping your baby to your back, or holding your child's hand, then going out to pick berries for most of our evolution. Even domestic duties like cooking and clothes mending would most likely have been done by a small number of people in the tribe, for the majority of our evolution. Since most people only "work" 4-5 hours a day max in hunter-gatherer groups, huge amounts of time were also available for socialisation and bonding. Modern life, where most people wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:34 PM
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It would be a 100% deal breaker, for me the point of an LTR is to have biological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:11 PM
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historically they have not done so For the vast majority of human history men have performed hunting and gathering tasks along with women, specifically ones that require more physical effort. From the Agricultural to Industrial Revolutions, men and women both worked in the fields and people didn't spend a huge amount of time cooking (at least compared to farm labour). The average man has only "gone to work" beyond the farmlands of his local village for 300 years at most, which in evolutionary te…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:50 PM
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Physically I don't really have a type. As long as a woman isn't facially ugly or obese, and is over 18 and under 30 (for context I'm 19) I will probably find her attractive. I'm 6'4 so don't have any hangups about height (although I've never met a woman taller than me in real life). In terms of personality number one for an LTR is wanting to have a large family (4-5+ children, ideally as many as possible) as that's something I really want. Further to that I'd say compassion, sharing my religion …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:47 PM
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Isn't there a pretty big overlap with nerds though? Most people I've worked with making music were nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:42 PM
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Some people are just psychopaths. It also depends on the reason for the abortion though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:30 PM
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I guess it could be a sexuality if people are attracted only to intelligent adults regardless of gender. But 99% of people I've seen talking about it are either straight or gay, so it's not intelligence they're primarily attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:12 PM
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As a man, I find roughly 80% of women aged 18-35 who are in good physical shape (not highly overweight or underweight) physically attractive. The things that I would look for in a long term partner are all things like what they enjoy doing, how many children they want, their personality, how close they are to me geographically etc. I think it's better to expect high standards in things one can control, and slightly lower standards in things one can't. Facial beauty really isn't that important to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:08 PM
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But I don't think someone would put on an act by behaving "sexually charged" that doesn't make sense. I'd be willing to bet money he realised how anxious he'd been behaving on the first date, either looked online or spoken to his friends about it and received advice to be more "alpha"/dominant, and behaved differently on the second date consciously. I may of course be wrong, but as a man myself that's what I'd guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:52 AM
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I probably replied to the wrong comment then lol. And yeah, I'd say from personal experience a first love/lust moves exceptionally fast, you can feel totally different from one day to the next (hence why he went from shy and demure to sexually charged very quickly). He could also have been putting on an act because he thought you were turned off by his shyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:46 PM
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At the end of the day there are literally millions of tiny things influencing the decisions one makes romantically, as simple as how much sleep you got last night (changes testosterone levels) lol. Politically motivated people will probably make mountains from molehills, but imo romance, and life in general, cannot be reduced down to a fixed set of principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:53 PM
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I deleted my post now because I got enough answers but a woman slept with me one hour into our first date (we'd known each other for a month before the date) and decided to get together with another guy. There's often no rhyme nor reason to these things I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:07 PM
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Also to piggyback onto the main thread, I would be happy to wait to have full on sex even until marriage if my girlfriend desired it (and had held other men to the same standards), but emotional intimacy like cuddling and stuff is pretty key for me so would have to be present quite early.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah, I feel like I can come across as quite intimidating so I would always let the woman initiate any sexual contact, at least until it's an established relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:47 PM
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As a very large and imposing man I never make the first move really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:06 PM
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Kissing then touching me intimately
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:16 PM
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Honestly that's good advice but in the moment it's really hard, especially when it's the first time someone has expressed romantic/sexual interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:05 PM
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I think it depends, the only woman I've been with made moves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:04 PM
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Personally I'm not realistically going to turn a pretty woman down if she comes onto me (unless she's drunk or there's some reason it would be unethical, obviously). I'd say physical touch and affection is more important to me than sex since that's my love language, but I'd like her to show sexual interest in me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:03 PM
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Your physique is largely down to work, and if you grow a thick beard even a bad jawline can look OK
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:10 AM
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Yeah I find women with muscles attractive, lots of men do. Just a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:47 AM
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Baldness isn't unattractive, with a beard and a strong physique it looks good I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:46 AM
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If you dated a bisexual male who'd slept with men in the past would you want him to tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:29 PM
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I feel like it's a fine thing to discuss if you're also open about your own past experiences. Reciprocity is important imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:29 PM
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She said the sex was good, we both got off so I feel like it was at least OK. We couldn't do much PIV though as I have phimosis and also could barely fit inside her. Most of it was me giving her head and her jerking me off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:26 PM
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When you say made it clear did you 100% say that you didn't want commitment or a relationship, or just make vague allusions to the fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:25 PM
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I agree but I 100% wouldn't ask if it was just we matched on tinder then went out three days later. We'd been talking pretty deeply for about a month at that point and knew a lot about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:24 PM
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I've been trying to avoid thinking about her personality since it will just make me sad, but I was attracted to her in a way I haven't really been with another woman. She was funny and witty, and I always felt on my toes in a good way whilst talking to her. I'd want to just talk to her about random stuff because I had a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:23 PM
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Actually if my memory serves me we were walking from her room to the elevator after having had sex (she was showing me the way back to the station) and I reached for her hand, she pulled away and basically said "not until we're dating". She also refused a kiss goodbye and hugged me instead, which didn't really bother me since I had the rose tinted glasses on at the time xD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:23 AM
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that's the category you want. It literally isn't though, I don't really want casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:58 AM
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Yeah the main part was how we'd been talking a lot online for the previous month and over voice as well. I probably did move too fast but it was the first time I'd done anything with a woman so all the new feelings kind of overwhelmed me I'd say
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:29 PM
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Yeah probably agree with all that, except we're basically the same age (6 months apart)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:24 PM
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That wouldn't be sleeping around, because polygamy is formalised and legalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:55 PM
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Yup, I think from now on I'm going to actively restrain myself from catching feelings until I know she's 100% gonna date me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:55 PM
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What actually hurts is she was definitely looking for a relationship, she just decided I wasn't boyfriend material and somebody else was. At least if she just wanted casual sex that isn't a personal rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:51 PM
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That's basically what I was like at the beginning tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:50 PM
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I mean I still haven't held hands with a girl lmao I've just had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:14 PM
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Yeah I get it, it just kind of came out in the moment. I can remember because my head was in her lap (she was playing with my hair) and I was biting my tongue to stop myself from crying because of how overwhelming it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:34 PM
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It was a joke, she mentioned us dating as a hypothetical at times
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:18 PM
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When you say hookup what do you mean? It wasn't an ONS, we got soft drinks first and we made it clear it was a date not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:02 PM
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We discussed a lot of things and I made clear I was looking for a relationship. We talked about having a second date the next month (we live in different parts of the country) when we'd both be free. The thing is she'd make deadpan jokes like "we're never gonna date" etc., in the beginning I'd respond in kind and make her laugh but once I caught feelings it just made me anxious and insecure lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:01 PM
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Lol tbf I literally took her hand at one point when we were walking back to her room and she pulled away lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:55 PM
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Because I'm too big to fit comfortably and have phimosis we mostly just did oral tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:50 PM
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You are right about that to be fair. I think a large amount of it gets lost on the internet as well because we don't have facial expressions or body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:27 PM
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I wouldn't say I'm particularly attractive. She said I was, but facially I'm probably a 5-6/10. I have physique pics on my profile (although I also can fight so that's maybe an added bonus? idk), I'm very well endowed, and I am 6 foot 3. The other guy she chose is also 19. I don't know if he's a student like me or anything. With that being said, she was actively sexting me until the day before they went exclusive which strikes me as odd. I'm a STEM student and until recently was working part tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:21 PM
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Thank you. I definitely have a wider range of hobbies than many (sport, music and board game) so I doubt that's the issue. What does "tighten your frame" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:12 PM
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will do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:08 PM
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I did, not sure if it's an accurate description but maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:59 PM
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That seems fair
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:42 PM
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Yeah I've been out with friends a few times, it only happened like 2-3 weeks ago and I already feel a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:41 PM
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I said women have it worse when it comes to assault from partners, not in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:40 PM
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She has BPD and was open about that from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:39 PM
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Look at the rates of women murdered by their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:42 PM
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"If" by Kipling is probably all you need to understand how to be a man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:41 PM
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You can 100% pull off long hair in a suit and tie if it's in a ponytail accompanied by a chinstrap beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:34 PM
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I feel my emotions, understand them, and use them as fuel. I allow my will and intellect to be the driver and my passion to be the gasoline. Desire is not the enemy, excess desire is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:33 PM
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What the fuck does the man's race have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:26 PM
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Traditional Man, has no time nor space in his mental outlook to even entertain ideas as failure, self-destruction, inadequacy, hubris A traditional man isn't immune to these feelings because nobody is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:25 PM
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It depends on the society, men who sleep around would previously have been viewed as decadent and undisciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:25 PM
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To that end you also can't be a legit conservative and pump sewage into rivers and oil into the sea. I would 100% take only sleeping with 1 woman for the rest of my life if she was the right person though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:23 PM
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I'm specifically talking about severe, life/limb threatening crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:21 PM
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Thanks for that. I honestly would still keep everything that happened than not experience any of it, it's what life's about at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:20 PM
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Yes, but I was being extremely optimistic. The only time she really confessed being into me she was drunk (and I didn't ask her to make it official then since that would've been a scumbag move)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:19 PM
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19 30-35
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:17 PM
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A friend of mine was talking to me about this sort of thing the other week and he said in Southeast Asia women are far more forthcoming when it comes to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:09 PM
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Most people are far less politically extreme than you think, at least in my country
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:09 PM
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Women have it worse for being physically assaulted by their partners, that's not even arguable man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:08 PM
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That is a fucking braindead take. Women are murdered and raped by their partners at a vastly higher rate than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:08 PM
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Yeah, I tend to be quite an all-or-nothing person in general; that's a fair assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:59 PM
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To be fair, I feel like I deserve it for being a moron
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:52 PM
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Yeah I don't think I was really bad at sex, at least she said she enjoyed it and seemed to. It was more being too clingy I think
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:51 PM
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You were probably not as good at sex as you thought you were which is normal given your age and the fact that you don't seem to have a lot of it. Yeah, I was very shy and reclusive until a few years ago when I basically reinvented myself- I hadn't even been on a date or kissed someone before this. I gave her head which she enjoyed but she was too tight for me to really enjoy piv, I came from a handjob in the end I think. And you're probably right about the clinginess thing, it's just I've not be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:50 PM
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It just felt unnerving from my viewpoint because (from my perspective) I was on a date with a girl who I'd expressed mutual interest with, and been kissed/had sex etc. for the first time. Then I could visibly see her attraction to me petering out over the forthcoming weeks without having any real idea why it was happening, or how to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:48 PM
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Yeah most probably. It's frustrating because I missed a proverbial open goal, but I don't think I could've learned the lesson any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:47 PM
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Yeah I'm torn but I've been trying just to get out and connect with people in general because I don't want to just sit there upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:46 PM
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So if you want to be with someone are you supposed to wait to ask them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:45 PM
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We talked mostly about our studies, music, views on the world, a wide range of things. She didn't seem to have many hobbies besides gaming tbh. Also I didn't actually cry, I just felt like it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:45 PM
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Yes, that's what I think. I think my arrogance played a part because she was really into me and I just stopped doing the stuff that got me to that stage in the first place (waiting to reply, being coy about emotions, not wall-of-texting etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:44 PM
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Yeah we actually joked a little about it after because I asked her pretty much post nut. I regret it but she was stroking my hair and stuff lol, it just came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:41 PM
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If a girl I liked asked for a relationship I would 100% say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:40 PM
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To be fair she only met the other guy online after we'd slept together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:40 PM
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That's good to know :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:39 PM
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thinks that she’s the one with the problem I don't really know where the problem is, hence why I posted here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:39 PM
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I've turned down a couple of women for casual sex before and never gone looking for it is what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:38 PM
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Dude, you cannot say you are masculine and then feel bad about having casual sex 🤣🤣🤣. It's not even that I had casual sex, it's that I had sex and thought it would lead to more. Had I known it wouldn't I'd have adjusted my expectations. As for being ran through her body count was 2 when we slept together, but it's now 5 by her own admission. So statistically, I'm doubting that it was 2 to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:57 AM
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That's interesting. We'd voice/video called about 5 times for a couple of hours each, and been talking for a month before we went out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:42 AM
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Idk if I said it to you or someone else, but I did say I may have misled myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:41 AM
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and like you only look at things form your pov. That's quite insightful because I've always struggled with empathy. I guess I almost see people on an instinctual level as accessories to myself rather than individuals unconnected to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:40 AM
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Seems like some huge risks for a girl to be taking just to get some sex from a guy that she's not really into She chose someone else after I cooled significantly. Basically the timeline went we talked for a month - we went out and slept together - she turned down a relationship, then turned down exclusivity - my attraction waned and we talked a lot less - she met the other guy and ended things with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:38 AM
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You can't form a relationship after one date How early is too early would you say? Does it vary from woman to woman or is there a general rule
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:36 AM
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So if it happened to me then it's by definition possible lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:32 AM
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What about the clitoris? When I gave her head she orgasmed from that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:29 AM
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Where did I claim to have discovered a new fact
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:29 AM
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maybe it was the crying after sex that made her choose to pursue someone else All fair enough, although I didn't actually cry; realised how terrible that would look at the time. What do you mean by it being "valid"? Of course people are allowed to change their minds but it's still upsetting when it happens, and I personally wouldn't do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:26 AM
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I'm literally asking a question about a personal situation, of course I'm talking about myself lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:24 AM
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To be fair he was a homosexual so I don't know how much that changes things. Could charm the skin off a snake though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:20 AM
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(of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts: Contrasted with subjective. Nothing to do with outside observation. Objectively, I'm 6 foot 3 and my main hobbies are boxing, grappling, outdoor pursuits and playing heavy metal. I also make an active effort to better myself, uplift others and confront my fears. In terms of confidence I've never had any problems meeting or talking with new people, or expressing myself in public…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:19 AM
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Imo sex isn't boring lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:17 AM
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She didn't lie to me, she just said that she liked me. I assumed this meant she also didn't like other people, since when I get feelings I only want to be with that person. Once she told me that she was dating around (she had a ONS before she met the other guy) I cooled considerably towards her as well. But it was pretty explicitly a first date, not a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:16 AM
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Its kinda weird though. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:14 AM
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Catch-22 buddy. I'm trying to give an objective analysis of my personality- I am stereotypically masculine in behaviour and appearance; and I have no issue performing music in front of people, public speaking, meeting new faces etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:14 AM
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We were talking for about 2 months all told (1 month before the date), and we were texting multiple times daily/voice and video calling a bit as well. I always assumed if you sleep with someone after a date it means you're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:13 AM
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Yeah, she said originally she was looking for a relationship, and she also told me she had feelings for me, trusted me, and felt that I valued her as a person not just for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:12 AM
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Maybe she was just letting things go, enjoying what came and you didn't "click" enough from her point of view. I think that was it, looking back. I may have tried to go too fast and as a result lost her initial interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:08 AM
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Yup, a learning experience for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:05 AM
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What do you mean by male and man? I assume you mean my physical attributes for the former and social/emotional ones for the latter? Also what's an n count, and what do you mean exactly by "And then women wonder why they are then judged for having n count equal to their age". Who are you criticising lol, me or her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:05 AM
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Never said it was pal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:03 AM
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Yup, I think that's it. I don't even feel bad about it since it's one of those things you can only learn by experience I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:00 AM
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hopefully ig
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:57 AM
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Oh for sure I was dumb to agree to it. Maybe I misled myself rather than her misleading me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:56 AM
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In terms of what I have going for me, I'm 6'3, high IQ, decently facially attractive, masculine in general (I do a combat sport, play guitar, am an outdoor person), and I'm extremely well endowed (I'm not being arrogant it's just a fact). In terms of what I don't have going for me, I'm not financially well off and I definitely came on very strong emotionally from the beginning. I also have quite an anxious attachment style so I will overthink stuff and ask for reassurance at times (eg what did y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:55 AM
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Yeah I'd still rather be alone and sexually active than being alone and celibate (as long as I know what the dynamic is beforehand), because that at least boosts your self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:49 AM
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That, and also rejection. I've always had this fear that once you peel away the superficial stuff I'm not a very attractive person, and unfortunately that theory recently got backed up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:46 AM
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When I had sex, I thought she wanted to have a relationship with me. I also physically enjoyed it because she is really pretty, and was good in bed. But I don't think I'd have slept with her if I knew she was just interested in me physically. I wouldn't say I gained nothing worthwhile from it, I'd class the experience as bittersweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:46 AM
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That's good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:44 AM
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It’s happened to me more times than I can count. I think social proficiency is more important than height. The smoothest man I ever met was 5'5 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:42 AM
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Dwayne Johnson's physique isn't achievable without a huge amount of roids. Bruce Lee 100% is though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:39 AM
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I know its hard to not to cheat I literally unmatched with every woman I'd been talking to on Tinder when I realised I had feelings for someone lol. I wouldn't recommend it until you're officially together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:39 AM
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I've boxed in front of 500 drunk people before. That didn't scare me. The most scared I've ever been as an adult was when I asked a girl if she wanted to make things official after we'd just had sex, because I couldn't hide behind my masculinity or artificial charm; and I just had to make myself vulnerable. Women are often physically afraid of men but they also have the capacity to cause pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:37 AM
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Also for any women with experience dating/hooking up, how common is it for hetero men to actually just want a relationship? I have a very high sex drive but what I crave is a deep emotional connection with a woman, not just something physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:34 AM
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