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Yes, this is exactly what you're doing. Check my flair, if you don't trust redpillers about a redpill, then whom should you trust? Random journalists after 30 min of "research"? Bluepillers like you? Then check following question on the internet: "burden of proof lies on whom"? And maybe then come back. In my country there is a nice idiom "proving that you're not a camel", when somebody comes up with some bs accusations, expecting you to explain/defend yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:21 PM
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Heh, I remember back at uni, during a class our group was trying to solve a problem presented on the blackboard. I think every student that managed to calculate something had a different results from the others. Weirdly, we did not conclude that discrete math has failed men. I do wonder why? But then it heavily leaned into simply hating women No, it did not. and using women as excuse for your failures. Same here. Where are men who will tell other men that it's not productive? Where are men who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:32 PM
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I can only list 2-3 right now from my own country, that work as a small foundation helping men or just one guy spaming issues on the internet (FB/Twitter), harrasing politicians with unconfortable questions, gaining applause from small group of followers... ...because what more can they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:42 PM
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They were no big names, because you cannot have a big name with very little traction. From memory I remember Warren Farrell and... Karen Straughen, but she's not a man :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:37 PM
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They organised already, you are maybe not aware about that because media, overfilled with females and "progressively" skewed didn't like to talk about it. And do you know what's even better? Men are getting, slowly, but louder and louder about their issues and now it is labeled as "gender war" by mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:26 PM
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Speaking of therapy, I've noticed a person posting a thread after a thread about how redpill is wrong and how it should change. Maybe that person should go to therapy themselves, instead of spaming internet forum, what do you think? Wouldn't be that beneficial for everybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:22 PM
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I really don't like the idea of friendships needing to be tangibly benefitial. I have work/business relations for this. Phrase from the title might had been used as a counter for "just make female friends broo" arguments, because I've seen discussions like this. Because I see no reason for a man to think that a female friendship cannot be as important and beneficial as a male friendship Women are more flaky, less reliable, less helpful, less compatible with me, more egoistical and requiring high…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:42 AM
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He might be 7/10 for some people, so "average at best" for women :))
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:09 PM
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xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:10 PM
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There's this myth that rejected young men will inevitably build value through money and status as they age. We all know you just made it up on the spot. Second, even for the rare few who do achieve CEO status and wealth, what is the actual reward? They attract gold diggers, partners who fake initial intimacy to ensnare them, devoid of genuine attraction. Yes yes, only your skeletal height generates genuine attraction, everything is a fake attraction /s So poor guy now can screw (reasonably) youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:01 PM
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Well, 1 study vs 0 counterexamples still is "infinity times bigger", according to math. Frankly speaking, there is only 1 popular case I know where men are the more finicky sex, maybe you will guess it. In every other scenario, those strict standards for women exists mostly in delulu land, alongside, for example, "laundry burden" *. * I've seen plenty of women claiming that puting man's socks into a washing machine is like a heavy chore. My god, no wonder they were single, freaking failed adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:18 PM
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That's offtop, so I don't want to dig deep here, so let's start from something simple. A match on a dating app. What do we have here? Indeed, male subjects (super)liked 61.9% of the female evaluated profiles, while female subjects (super)liked only 4.5% of the male evaluated profiles. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 If 4.5% of men deserve a "right swap", but 62% of women qualify, where can I find those "insanely high standards" in practice? Or when students ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:59 PM
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Why do men pretend they are less shallow than women(...) Who and where? That's rather rare (and IMO wrong) opinion, unless people here decide to prove me wrong... By definition men have more options to be attractive, because... women are less shallow in what they consider attractive, so I agree with the title 100%, but I doubt people deny it on regular basic, at least people knowing what they're talking about. They might still try to defend "less shallow", because men accept way more types of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:45 PM
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After how many cunnilingus tutorials on the orange platform you will get more matches on dating apps? Even better: after practicing with your ex-girlfriend, what's the expected boost to find there a new one? Or maybe cold approach would work better? I've heard from women, at least in my country, that some men are sexually at caveman level and not willing to step up, but (...)to find a girlfriend? ...it barely matters. It matters more to not scare her away too fast, but that's an equivalent of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:03 AM
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The same standard applies to the Red Pill. You may think it's just biology or dating advice, but that's not how it's perceived socially. Normies are clueless, yes, we know, that's why every coach was saying to STFU about this stuff IRL, even a decade ago. TRP wasn't political, so perception by the mob isn't that important here. Everything is influenced by politics to some degree, yes, but not everything is political and needs to be political. Putting politics where people don't want it is repuls…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:04 AM
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It is important because humans have ego. Please be nice and convince women that getting proposal ring out of bundle with a bubble gum isn't a big deal, to stop comparing to what their friends got and what really counts is spliting chores and common morgage. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:14 PM
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Can you hide your intensive prejudice a bit better? (...)and I really don't understand what he could possibly say to make an unattractive man attractive. You need to put work, effort, money into change. Words alone of course are not enough, but might guide you in a proper direction or set proper expectations. He is also pushing an agenda, claiming that men peak at 50. Straight out of horse's mouth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r79iX5jl3zU&t=283s Like all red-pilled dating coaches, he is sellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:45 AM
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My argument is that its biggest strength isn't necessarily its explanation of dating, but the kind of agency it offers. (...)would give someone concrete actions that they can take immediately, regardless of whether the broader philosophy behind that advice is correct. I mean, people usually search for a cheese cake recipe, they don't want to learn food science. Redpill was (and should be) a reactive, applicable praxeology, equivalent of a workout plan, but for your dating life as a whole. It got…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:28 PM
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First of all, don't confuse black pill with red pill, "Chad only" is a typical blackpill rethoric. Most women aren’t dating outrageously attractive or tall or rich guys. In fact I know many MANY women who’ve dated guys who are objectively much less attractive than them, men who are broke, drug addicts etc. Because there is not enough "outrageously attractive or tall or rich guys" compared to demand, therefore women also need to pick what's available. You need to have some qualities that make you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:15 PM
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>As a woman, I experience the benefits of feminism every single day. I am able to go to university, vote, have my own property, speak freely, I'm not forced to marry and people generally don't look down on me for having a job. That's a feminist propaganda. It is true only to some degree, how much it is true varies from country to country. In my country it was never needed, and a lot of equality movement issues was resolved due to... soviet influence. We had "citizens" and sex of citizens were no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:25 AM
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Looksmaxxing is not redpill. Hating on hypergamy is not redpill. Those are linked to blackpill. Also neither of those two have anything common with being pro equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:53 PM
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In my eyes I'm just stating a fact. No, they're stating facts, and you're just complaining :) so we can have a nice stalemate. Instead of complaining on the internet for nothing they could just... Not date and not waste time? Lurk more, since you somehow failed to notice: 1) no, this is not a forum for your dating woes, those places existed since the dawn of the internet, but this is not one of them. 2) "just don't date" is an embarrassingly bad advice, even if it's true in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:15 PM
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Genuinely almost all this sub is Pure gender war and people complaining about dating. ...have you seen, idk, even twitter? Why wouldn't you consider stop dating, and complaining, an option? Exactly, why haven't you consider not complaining, considering all this post is just complaining? This is mostly a discussion sub, so it has less complaining than other places to be honest. Then use your brain and ask yourself a question: why would you find people NOT interested in either discussion/pills/com…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:55 PM
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No replies because topic is hard and, frankly speaking, reactions to trauma is way outside typical TRP taking points. Your hypothesis sounds plausible to me, but I am nowhere near qualified to have any strong opinions here, so maybe better I will just STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:14 AM
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This is not "judging", this is explaining consequences. If you don't like presented consequences, then I have "arguments", but if you're fine with this direction then nothing needs to be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:35 PM
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So why do you think this is my problem? Is not your problem. At the same time you're showing that women do not care about society, only "me me me and me feelings". Average woman is made exactly this way. You're 100% entitled to have this mindset, but at the same time this is vindicating everyone saying that people who do not care about society shouldn't be alowed to decide about society. Nowadays my mindset also devolved to this. I won't help stranger woman with anything, "not me problem". Only …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:50 PM
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Because there is no magic, and most boring, mundane answer is usually the correct one. I have a utilitarian views on religion, if it helps you float your boat, good for you. Looks like you have kinda similar views by proposing religious larp. I've seen people doing that and being happy, currently I doubt this is for me. And do not mix traditional ways of living with religion, religion might help with that but is not needed nor sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:55 PM
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there are women out there that genuinely value morals, beliefs, ethics(...) Yes, they value those traits in men they're already attracted to. Without the latter, the former barely matters. "exciting, hot, rich" generates this needed attraction in most women. and dismissing people who don't fit into their belief system, always claiming they're lying. Because with claims like that, those people are either oblivious AF, or just lying through their teeth, and since usually they don't want to "put th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:35 PM
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This is going to be a lot of "it depends". Depends on the context of interaction. If a man approaches you out of the blue or/and in so-called "hookup places", then indeed most men are looking for somebody they can push things into more "romantic" direction with. If a man helped you take your luggage from the train then no, that was just purely casual interaction. On top of that, it depends on the culture, and in some cultures men are less casual and more direct than in others. Most likely your h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:14 AM
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And those on the top are... men or aliens? More and more both men and women are "out of the game" and a lot of who wants who, how much and at what effort comes from perceived Sexual Marketplace Value discrepancy. yet most women have always gone after - or wanted to go after - whatever the top type of men in their time were looking available for them Fixed your quote. For cases of similar SMV, women gatekeep sex, men gatekeep commitment. That's why for years women where bitching/asking on the int…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:53 PM
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Literally encoded into both red and black pill. Cool that you know more or less dry definitions, but have you heard at least popular phraze "men are the gatekeepers of relationships/commitment/marriage, women are the gatekeepers of sex"? Without digging any further, without explaining any more, this alone should raise your questions about women allegedly holding all the cards. I am snarky now because I am fed up with people correcting redpill without understanding the basics. Especially when far…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:12 PM
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I have a bad feedback for you: don't come here with "revelations", if you cannot even properly distinguish blackpill and redpill. Also, how could you "attack assumptions of evopsych" when you cite evopsych authors left and right?? Twitter author constructs his own stupid strawman of "Female Omnipotence in Human Mating", that basically noone else believes in and then heroically refutes it. GJ I guess? A lot of arguments are misused though due to being outdated and are applicable only for scientif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:37 PM
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For a tall attractive guy, the red pill can multiply success. For an average guy, it can maybe improve outcomes somewhat maybe. Assuming bell curve distribution, average + anything above average is already "most men". So it works for most men, unless your definition of "working" is that classic soft harem known as "successfully spinning plates". ALl of this is true for me, as a man making alot of money, fit, but only 5'9, I followed TRP for nearly ten years, it didnt get me the experience i want…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:11 PM
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I prefer redpill's approach to it, that means sexual strategies are usually amoral, so outside this being morally wrong/ok/correct framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:36 AM
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Redpill always means the same: (re) discovering truths that some system tries to hide from you and sells you lies. Pretty generic, but many such cases. Other definitions either narrow it down or are just plainy wrong. Same with, idk, word "worker", also generic and context-dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:20 PM
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My opinion of men aged 20-35 match the bell curve. Around 50% of them is "mid", so maybe 25% is attractive? BTW friendly reminder that famous 20% meant that only 20% were above median score in attractiveness, according to women. could you also answer what percentage of women you find attractive? For women aged 20-30 I think every 3rd is "attractive", because portion of "around average" women is still attractive for me. Also we have a bell curve here, but women take care about their looks more. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:34 PM
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My father was absent basically my whole and then rather quickly dead. For sure one of the reasons why I needed to ask the internet to figure stuff out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:13 PM
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One of ther favorite quotes is stating “by 2030 45% of women 25-44 will be single and childless”. By famous manosphere figure named Morgan Stanley, yes. Most women today seem to be perfectly fine if they end up single and childless, This is true and yet requires some context. Playing video games day by day till 4am and drinking beer feels cool when you're young and less cool when you're less young, not only because novelty wore off. Those women are still young, so they have different perspective…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:23 PM
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No... BUT, at the same time, misused/misunderstood redpill advices (like those presented by you) for sure can backfire. I will address 1 thing, because it's too much If you treat vulnerability as weakness, you stop communicating honestly. Even on this website alone you have 15+ years of confessions from men writing how they have shown vulnerability in relationships and how it has ended for them. Bluepillers have set of expectations, and if those are not met, this was not "real" woman / "real" lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:03 PM
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Nowadays I follow exclusively Orion Taraban, because 1) he's the best I've seen 2) is not uncommon for me to still learn something new from him. Is he a typical RP guys like Rollo? No. So what? Do you follow more dating content, fitness content, money/business content, political content, or general self-improvement content? Guys, I am to this day guilty of this, but what's better: 500h of watching athlean X or 100h in the gym? I am sorry, but you need to do the work yourself :( I follow (geo)pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:54 PM
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Red Pillers Idolize; Clavicular He's like a poster boy of blackpilled looksmaxxers. So you were not that much off, yet this is still incorrect. Kinda like mixing up a chinese and a filipino. Tate: A man that 6~ women have accused of forcing them into sex and human trafficing using cam sites. I don't care about him, but wasn't he proven not guilty by a judge? Man whores/men who get a lot of casual sex. People gathered around male sexual strategy forums idolize top performers, yes, that's normal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:25 PM
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Could you give me a link where he said that young working women are destroying society? Or the second thing? Because I doubt it, and if not, I will just flame him in the comment section lol. Anyway,,, But to continue, what about mens biology makes you better leaders? I've already provided some vague points here: "slightly different morality, different group dynamics, no in-group preference and so on", I don't want to write essays now how men evolved as better leaders due to needing tighter coope…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:08 PM
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(...)So I’m basically the exact type of woman red pill hates, woops. Delusion. Ad 1) This was this guy opinion, not a community consensus. Important: redpill was NOT meant as "rules to society", was not about balancing society, it was about positioning individual better in that society. Same as, IDK, "How to get rich out of stock market" guides? You pointed out correctly that polyamory is not a good solution for society, but that barely apply to TRP. Ad 2) I doubt this exact argument was used, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:42 PM
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Nope, just adding my 5 cents to a post labeled as "Debate". It is directed to anybody who has read main post and now is checking comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:10 PM
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Did you read that post carefully? If you look at me for example, not only am I ripped and considered conventionally attractive(...) And he (accidentally or not) put two more important things at the beginning. I won't even challenge OP's premise, heck, I agree with it, but you just have order your priorities properly. (...)and went on around 20-30 dates. Let me tell you this, only 2 women had hobbies and I still remember enjoying both of them the most. The majority of women I talked to had a simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:02 PM
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So I think its about time men stop spending all their time defending their age gap fantasy - because its just a fantasy. I know people living the fantasy then. Overall you're right - very young women accepting 10+ years gap are rare. But mid-20s? Pretty common. Men 35+ yo, single, in shape with their shit togather are uncommon, so even if majority of young women won't be interested, enough of them will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:24 PM
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No, because he can just help her to "fight the patriarchy" by declining extra work for close to nothing. Don't forget walking away is an option, if she's more like a burden than help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:15 PM
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Not sure where the pet this is coming from(...) Because getting extra responsibilities for just a company is like adopting a pet. 2nd case is a more complex relationship, although your perspective of not calling that real partnership is valid - it's just more in that direction than first example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:31 PM
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What the heck is this? But ok, I have free time now, I will bite. So we have a giga-fictional scenario with a modern woman: not useful, but picky and very "deserving". Then we're presented two scenarios: A) That woman fulfills role of a pet and is adopted by Huber, she doesn't need to do much, just Hubert has now some extra responsibilities, because she's deserving help and care. Basically like adopting a cat. B) Woman also wants to fill role of a pet, her boundaries are respected, BUT met with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:05 AM
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If a man has a bad relationship, the take away is “see how horrid women are?” You're just ignorant in this subject. Imagine a man deciding to date baby momma with 3 children from 2 different fathers. And that ends not very well. I've yet to see any serious, male-focused place that reacts "aww poor thing" and not "...you f**king r*tard". Fact that you cannot predict everything and hedge against every problem DO NOT absolve women from 1) basic filtering 2) noticing red flags. "Should've picked bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:20 PM
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I think you're right here but that changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:18 AM
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Great, and most of Chuds posting "women are just stupid whores" on the internet love their moms. So where is the misogyny here??? Suddenly we have no issues, thread is obsolete, damn, that was fast. And no, problem with that stupid answer for this meme question (that you're also guilty of) is no misandry by itself, is the depth of delusions in women's psyche along with directly attacking male fantasies that breeds misogyny as a reaction. Have you heard about hero stories? Heros not only fight th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:02 PM
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"Sorry, I deal so often with guys who don't like the fact that women work in STEM that I just thought you were one of them." ... and how is this connected to redpill? I also (in the real world) had a red-pill guy who told me that the sexual freedom of women is evil because it leads to lots of men who badly need sex staying alone, and that it would be better to live in a world where couples are formed based on a very advanced AI, regardless of whether the woman wants it or not. ...therefore I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:40 PM
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We're not talibans. if I only try to charm men through my wits, humour and intelligence (that are, no doubt, amazing!), most men will friend-zone me and those who approach me tend to be okay but not very interesting. Indeed, personality is crucial in the long run, but you need to "bait the hook" first. Guys influenced by the Red Pill react very negatively to that, they'll tell me that I shouldn't be dressed like a slut They shouldn't react very negatively. At the same time, you're being judged b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:05 AM
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So, up for debate: Does PPD reflect real life, or just one small insecure subculture? PPD does not reflect real life, because average person in real life knows jack shit about redpill and not that much about some intersexual dynamic trends excluding their personal life. Demographic here also doesn't reflect real life nicely due to overrepresentation of internet nerds (hi). BTW no, it's not a "subculture", but still better word than a "cult" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:08 PM
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Do you think you understand female dating perspective? To some degree. I will never be a woman (lol) and I was not that interested in this, but by absorbing "pill-knowledge" I am more knowledgable about this topic than your average man. At the same time, a man with a teenage daughter sharing her woes, is more knowledgable about female dating perspective in some aspects than me. Do you feel like you sympathize/empathize with them? More than whereareallthegoodmen posters, and I think still more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:59 PM
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Not familiar with how statistics work? Im proficient enough with statistic to know you can calibrate input data to match almost any claim and have meme results like cows being more deadly than sharks or, as you wrote, garbage collector job being more risky than a soldier. They could. I literally said that. A little push, a little funding, and we could be surrounded by pregnant men. 🫃🫃🫃 Everything lies on a spectrum. It's arguably much worse to be SAd than it is to go to war. If we use old defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:35 AM
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Ask LLM for help, or even better: Do what I am going to do right now and just ignore this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:41 PM
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What's the alternative? Outside of suicide... In modern day as a woman you're free to end your genetic line by never getting pregnant. If this sounds dramatic for a woman, that woman can have few children and her genetic legacy will be prolonged a bit before getting watered down to ~5% after mere 4 generations. Pick your poison. "Soldiers die!" At a lower rate than roofers and garbage collectors. Perspective. ...could you let this know to guys enlisted in russia-ukraine war, because considering …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:27 PM
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And how would you call introducing buzzwords instead of addressing claims? No, of course not. Women are already contributing resources to their children, women are asking men to bring their own contributions up to par. Asking for reciprocity (...) So they have their own resources. But at the same, they're not happy with spliting everything evenly 50% because... What does that 50% male contribution vs the female contribution look like? You're excluding a 9 month bodily process(...) Those contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:56 PM
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Part of modern female delusions are stories about how hard pregnancy is. It's uncomfortable and it is a toll on the body, yes. Big enough that (at least in my country) in later stages you can get a prolonged sick leave. At the same time, 16 years old girls can stomach it. One of my grand-gradmothers survived 9-10 pregnancies working in the fields at the same time. Women can get cured out of their own BS quickly, if you just threathen them with enlistment, suddenly they will be getting pregnant l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:09 PM
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1) Typical betabux has money women need, not the amount women want + on top of that, he lacks "alpha" qualities, which makes him less attractive. Having only "one leg" in the game in form of just money alone is not the best idea, that's why TRP claimed women aren't usually attracted to betabux providers. Those people are often picked because woman needed a husband and a provider, not because she wanted him. But that's not the rule, a woman can be attracted to average Billy as long as she's not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:27 AM
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Rather: are you aware that you're mixing everything up and those holes are holes in your understanding? women are “hypergamous” for being most attracted to the most physically attractive class of men. Bolted text is your addition. According to that theory, women cannot be genuinely aroused or attracted to a man based on money or status alone. AF/BB basically makes the claim that if the woman is not physically attracted to you, no amount of money or status will make her be attracted to you You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:14 PM
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Are women resourceless and useless themselves? They don't even have 2 hands to work to support their offspring? Man has two hands to work, woman has two hands to work. Man has 50% of his genes in a child, woman has 50% of genes in a child, yet you're writting about "matching it up with resources" to be equal. So it's not equal by default, right? Women are not happy with splitting eveything by 50%, how would you call that? Maybe ... "hypergamy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:01 PM
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On one hand, the claim is that women are always trying to “date up” socially, financially, status-wise. Indeed. But in the same conversations, people also insist that what matters most for women is looks. Maybe in the same conversation, but not by the same people. Sounds like those are more blackpill-leaning. Everything will make sense if you understand that what they have written is true for dating apps, and for them dating apps == dating life. If a woman is dating a man who has more money or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:30 PM
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High value men mostly end up with high value women I agree, that's how it roughly works, but we're talking of course in context of sexual market value, not "net worth" or somethings. but this idea that a guy who’s a top 10% earner will be perfectly fine dating or marrying any woman below him is a lie. ...I have no idea what to tell you, but a lot of IT guys I know/knew were unaware about your opinion and married somebody who was making 50% or 1/3rd their earnings. Unless "below him" is still in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:43 PM
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Then ask mods for a change, "discussion" sounds better if you're a man, or "question for men" if you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:22 PM
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Do I need a random japanesee guy to see that male pigeon 3 meters away from me is dancing around the female, and not the other way around. Are you even serious? Evolutionary arguments are always simplistic and unrealistic. Thank you for confirming that there are no arguments against what I've written. At the same time you correctly pointed out that woman is indeed not an entity in isolation, but a social animal and women behave and have a bit different expectations for their spouses whether or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:43 PM
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Let's for a moment go outside homo sapiens. Why male birds try to woo and dance around females, and not the other way around? Because females lay eggs. In case of mamals, females get pregnant. So one of sexes take 99% of the work/risks for 50% of their genes. Not a good deal, huh? That's the innate source of hipergamy, by even supply and demand to require more or to get a better partner, because you do way more to at least "produce" common offspring. If society were to pander to us like to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:11 PM
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Counterpoint: Imagine you're a woman and you hit a very low genetic roll. What now? As a man, you still have an option that could be oversimplified to "just be (very) rich bro~". Either way that woman has no decent options OR a lot of plastic surgeries, but that also requires money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:54 PM
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I don't agree that elections are a proxy for war. They are a proxy for conflicts that could escalate to wars, but it is not the same. Am I the only one who thinks this makes no sense? Friendly reminder that in reality, as long as we don't have killer robots, society is functions in limits of what military-aged men are willing to tolerate. We can have different social contracts, including Does this mean that older men like Rollo shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore because younger men are stronge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:08 PM
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You got it backwards - you see something that 1) doesn't make sense 2) others don't see. That's the problem. Chances that you're a genius making a breakthrough are really slim, usually it is just a schizophrenic behaviour, and any pill-related discussion can't help here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:13 PM
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80% of women only date 20% of men Not correct, more like 80% of women are competing for 20% of the guys, but are dating are less strict and women are with "temporary boyfriends", "plan B" and so on. That you would try to change the few men rather than the many women. Why do men who believe in hypergamy generally ask many multiples of women to pick better rather than ask alpha men to be happy with just one partner? This would solve hypergamy assuming we’re roughly 50-50 men and women. You don't u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:45 PM
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Morality, excluding some small nuances, is sex-agnostic. And sorry, I will ignore this train of thought, because all I can think of is "...are you high right now? Or do you have different issues?" Now my question is wtf is an IRL woman supposed to do with that bullshit. She should not think about it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:31 PM
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You need to stop living in a world, where those things are binary, like 0 or 1 and you just flip the value with "fault". In reality it is way more complicated what went wrong and why. Does it work the other way around too? Is it usually the man's fault if his girlfriend cheats on him? People respond to incentives. I am 100% sure you can imagine scenarios when a man gave that woman some, or even a lot incentives to cheat. Fat, lazy, inatentive, cumming after 1min with barely any foreplay and call…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:24 PM
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What can I answer besides "you don't understand written text"? Just without delving any further, your 2nd sentence literally contradicts quoted text. You're just finding in my reply what do you want to find there, not what's written.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:02 AM
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Do you think men who manipulate do not exist? There are many things that try to manipulate you, inlcuding even ads on the internet/TV. Yes, you cannot see through everything always, but you CANNOT pretend to be a gullible child, you need to take accountability and try to be better, especially when other people warned you. Same goes to men, e.g. what would you tell to simps sending money to e-thot and then raging after figuring out she already has a boyfriend? "Not your fault sweety, she just man…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:43 PM
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Is this that famous "adult day care", where today we gonna learn an adult concept like "accountability"? Ok children, taking accountability means accepting that things are in part (or in a whole) your fault/merit and taking responsibilities for your own actions. It's not ice cream fault, that they are yummy, it is your fault for buying them and putting them in your mouth and then eventually getting fat. No, that bad boy didn't manipulate you into sleeping with him, you already wanted to do so an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:32 PM
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As far as I remember internet forums, people were not really liking posters requesting "spoonfeeding" without any effort from their side. How about that's the problem here, not me and my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:15 AM
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surely they must exist. Um, yeah? Although most are common both sexes, because we're but humans. Men are lazy (don't want to do the work), men are naive (duh), men could be flaky, manipulative, obnoxious (with unwanted attention or even dick pics), dodging responsibility (single mothers aren't making themselves without a help) and so on. Aren't most bullet points about "things that need to be fixed" suggesting some "negatives" to be fixed? We're usually not fixing positives. If you were not able…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:41 PM
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May I ask you, what do you do for a living? Are you a car mechanic, so instead of fixing people cars, you just keep "fixing" them? A dentist doing the same? Are you an excavator operator that will try to dig this hole as slowly as possible? Or are you the last honest sucker in the world of frauds? Scamming people is not a valid business model if any alternatives exist and any form of reputation exists. Your chart would be valid only if dating apps were the one way to get a date and all dating si…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 10:02 AM
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My standard is what you can(could?) find inside TRP and what people like Rollo or Michael Sartain are saying. I won't be more specific because I don't want to write something like table of contents here. The thing is i talked to many of you here, and there were a lot of times when i repeated something red pill man said and my opponent claimed it was not red pill. Speaking of "specific", this is not very concrete itself. Instead I've seen many times some out of ass BS that indeed was "not red pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:59 PM
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Three things: 1) You have no idea what a "redpill" is. Noone redpilled said "just chase leftovers bro"? 2) I have no idea where do you live, but I've seen 0 Gigachads IRL and maybe 1-2 Chads. Chads swooping whole market to basically monopoly position is just a blackpill meme. 3) This post is all over the place without a cohesive question... which make sense, because you don't have any cohesive redpill understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:23 PM
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Studies show there are no gender differences in caring about body count. Find better studies, if those you know are unable to even spot the difference between how men and women look at virginity in their potential partners. And I doub’t childless women want to date a single father. You're right. But amount of single fathers is nowhere near the amount of single mothers (family courts are not helping here), so listing them close to the top of problems looks unserious. And I myself pointed out, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:09 PM
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But child molestation is very common(...) For your own good live the shithole you're living in ASAP, if that's true for that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:51 PM
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And that's a "mental disorder", not the norm. Do I need to even explain why? BTW seriously I have no idea how in the world that little girl was able to get pregnant, wtf?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:22 PM
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? Men usually are fertile till they're almost dead... or dead. Yes, they're less fertile, so it would even make more sense to chase the most fertile females imaginable to increase their chances? If biologically having healthy strong off springs is their drive they shouldn't be having children past 40 That's why men are most horny when they're 16-25. But why in your opinion sex drive should shut down past that time?? Seriously...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:19 PM
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"Slutty", "single fathers" xD Sorry, you cannot just mirror female disadvantages onto males, this is not how it works. Ok, some of people are indeed like that, just entitled. Others just want a woman that is not visibly "net negavite" in market value. Is this really too much to ask? Plenty of women are so entitled to "being the table". No, your pure existence is not enough to attract men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:10 PM
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That's not "excuse", that's a fact. Do you need "excuses" for liking things you like? 50 years old man can legally have sex with a 18 yo sex worker without any ""excuse" theory-crafting, he just needs to pay. In practice any 40+ is out of range for a 17 yo, but it won't magically prevent his pecker to be unable to react to a young body, in many cases you cannot tell if a person is 17, 19 or 21 years old. There is a phenomenon where with age young people start looking for you younger than they re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:48 AM
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What excuse? Excuse for what? What are you even writting about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:23 AM
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Let's go for car analogy, again... He said he desperately wants a car, but it cannot be after a crash, cannot be after a flood, no cars needing general renovation ASAP... why then he's so picky and only going for "top percent of cars"? Any market, where non-trash options are already "top percent" is simply speaking terrible. Don't blame buyers for preferring "nothing" over "trash". Same goes for women, would you blame 35 yo woman for wanting to be forever single over picking up an umemployed alc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:19 AM
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<image> Sex makes babies. Big part of how attractive is a woman for men is how healthy and fertile she looks. Friendly reminder that age of consent around the world is on average at 16? Just very young, adult women are more attractive than semi-adult women, on top of that teenage mentality is not helping, but in history anything post puberty was fine? Bar was rised because mentality needs to catch up with body a bit. And yes, almost all men don't find 14 yo attractive, because they look way more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:21 AM
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Addressing title: No. (...)at what point is he building genuine strength vs reacting to perceived inadequacy? This gives me "I need to find some problems, because my cons section is empty" vibes. Red Pill says: the market is ruthless, adapt or fall behind. But does that mindset create an endless loop of “not enough”? If a person, after finishing a textbook, picks another textbook instead of doing the work, does it mean textbook was faulty? Waiting for the perfect moment or when you're finally re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 10:00 PM
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You're interrogating me or want to learn something? If you're interrogating me then I am 40 years old virgin, fat and unemployed. And let's stop here, because you're just moving goalpost everywhere ignoring my own questions. I am not here to talk about me, my "notch count", breakups and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:58 PM
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This is impossible to answer in most cases, same way you cannot usually pinpoint how work safety instructions video saved John McSmith from a work injury. For "saving" aspect, I just learned about a lot of pitfals in dating game and not only there, mind for example how family courts operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:47 PM
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“people should stay in their lane and only date their looksmatch”. I'm curious, who says that? If totally random people then yeah, they're just not that good at understanding what's possible and what's not. TRP was also "spreading awareness", because putting a sign "danger, dragon inside" in front of a cave is at least 10x easier than removing mentioned dragon. Demanding women lower their standards and acknowledge how hard it is for unattractive men to date is basically the definition of “being …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:32 PM
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That was of course also taken into consideration, but in form of "where to move", for the reasons I've stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:41 PM
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This is just a juvenile hero fantasy. TRP was not about being alfa as the goal, it was about having a successful sexual strategy, however you define "success" there. Are you yourself masculine enough that you're punching the hurricane and kicking the flood, instead of moving away like a bitch, or you just want somebody else to play the role of a hero? There was not that tiny number of people protesting the war in russia in 2022, and they just went to jail. Do you even remember them? I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:18 PM
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By "current form RP" you mean people knowing and more or less understanding the word "redpilled?". I don't think this is how things work. There is not new redpill, as there is no new biology, but we have just different communities that are popular now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:57 PM
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Chaotic post, so I just adhere to the title itself. This really kinda looks like a woman doing obervations and deducing that men are physically unable to take out trash on time or to change a diaper. Those men are able to do so, they just don't care. Same with women and using/arguing with "thinking brain", not "feeling brain".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:39 PM
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Because women are (or at lease were) able to remain passive and yet life were just happening to them by the virtue of men doing the work. Just put yourself up there and somebody will approach or be available and you just need to actively turning them down. So we had 3 mainstream options for old and "unused": too picky for their own good, unattractive, so not worth the active effort or on the spectrum, and those more attractive (but not too much) ASDs will also get picked. That's why. And I typed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:57 PM
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? Vast majority of people holding bluepill believes are not malicious towards redpill, although some of them are totally unnecessarily, verbally overagressive towards redpill on the internet, those are loud and therefore visible with their confident ignorance. BTW I've yet to see somebody that knows their shit about those topics and fundamentally disagrees with TRP. Some differences in opinions are of course normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:35 PM
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I often see alot of emphasis on a woman's age in the red pill (usually extremes like over 25 is a no go) aswell as emphasis on traditional lifestyles. Again, redpill != tradcon. I am not sure which one would I pick up. 21 old could adapt my values to some degree but... it is a bit too young for me. 30 years old virgin is either really religious and unattractive (that's a no) or autistic (...fine).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:15 PM
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Blue pill is not exactly "not redpill", bluepill is being aware about redpill truths, yet deliberately sticking to mainstream believes. Wanna see some bluepill believes? Type something like "what women find attractive in men" and look for some sources that look like legacy or corporate media. I am doing it right now and I've found, starting from the top "A Sense of Humor", "Confidence", "Kindness and Empathy" and then you have finally something like "A Well-Groomed Appearance". Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:06 PM
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In my country, according to sexologysts, oral sex was pretty rare 40 years ago, as rare as anal is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:29 PM
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new account baits Nothing new under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:19 PM
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Oh wow, a genuine question, not a lame bait. Upvoted. Short answer: i agree with Rollo, in vacuum by simple comparison patriarchy is fair-ish (women were 2nd class citizens both in responsibilities and rights), and post-feminism society is not (men are 2nd class citizens AND have more responsibilities). Long answer: it is complicated, my knowledge about anthropology and history is not sufficient to have any strong and reasonable opinions, but I am almost certain, that everywhere social class/cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:06 PM
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Are you even aware about existence of fuckboys saying really unpleasant things about women as a whole? bonus question: if you call out misandry but not misogyny are you a misogynist? Yeah, if your title calls out only misogyny, but not misandry, aren't you a misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:38 PM
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Make your mind. Now you're asking about "formal education in dating", before it was "(try to)have sex". Dating and having sex are positively correlated, but not the same. For pseudo-academic discussion (and this is mostly what this place is about) theoretical knowledge is what counts. If you wanted to hire a dating coach then I would understand why you're expecting some reasonably recent hands-on experience from him. Frankly speaking, let's oversimplify a bit, but most educated on this topic wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:25 PM
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I will just put two words that will shock you: Male gynecologist ...so when you sorted yourself out after seeing this maybe go annoy those people, they pretend to know female body without being women themselves LOL. Reviewing the messager instead of the message is really not the best idea, on top of that I can see that no one is qualified to talk. Too ugly? What can you know, STFU. Too handsome? Whatever you say Chad. Same partner for 20 years? Grandpa, dating reality is different now... I can f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:04 AM
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TRP doesn't hate single mothers, "hate" is a totally wrong word here. "making fun of" is way more correct, places like whereareallthegoodmen are redpill-affiliated anyway. Is this unproductive? Probably. Is this fair? Not so much, but even less fair is spewing blantant lies the convo almost always ends with “these horrible single moms are ruining society” ...like you're doing it here. Therefore, don't judge those people harshly that they're not objective if you're doing worse yourself. The redpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:13 PM
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I mean, the tenant that a high n count is bad FOR WOMEN(...) Yes. (...)implies that women are somehow damaged by sleeping with men. If a car, brand new, is bought by somebody, it turns into "damaged car". What a tragedy! Oh sorry, it turns into "used car", still bad, huh? why should women actively choose to be with a man who secretly thinks she’s ultimately damaged goods? This is not what men think. Source? I am one. Although it is, outside of context of this semi-ignorant post, a valid concern.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:13 AM
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I either think more women should be into it (audio hardware) or I don't care at all (most of my hobbies). No, I am not afraid that it would ruin anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:28 PM
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I would put it in a following way: almost nobody cares to do anything about men's problems. When it comes to giving attention to some issues, internet cares, you need to be blind to not see that or think that legacy media represent real life people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:48 PM
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Then there's no point giving a damn about things like terrible dating market, you're waifu doesn't exist there anyway, leave those problems to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:55 PM
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"Game" is a rough equivalent of "marketing". If you don't believe in the power of marketing, I have no idea how to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:05 PM
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Let's switch from dating market and convey your idea to the job market. you need to have a nice job experienced and marketable skills, in many cases you also need to ace your interview and(...) But what if I had been born in saudi oil family, huh? I wouldn't needed to work at all and I still would be really wealthy! Yes, you would. Your wealth would also outperform almost all people religiously pushing forward they careers and finances. But now let's go back from apex fantasy land into real worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:02 PM
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Is this really a bad idea? Since you have mention that you're on the spectrum and you check this place there is a glass floor how thoughtless your opinion might be. Still, you forget one important detail: that you need to create your own so-called "third places" that include women. Most of my hobbies are 85% male, or more. There are also issues with picking up new hobbies that are not visible at the first glance, for example dance schools or board games were being proposed so much that in many p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:05 AM
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Blackpill is a "redpill went wrong", where people took what's brutal and not fun from redpill and ignored opportunities and possibilities. Could be oversimplified as pessimistic genetic determinism, where people think how good you look is almost all that matters. You need to understand typical blackpill demographic to get why they think this way: guys closer to 20 than 30 that used dating apps as supply for potential partners. What's true for Tinder got basically extrapolated to the whole dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:08 PM
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Some of them do nothing but post unflattering comments about women. Some of them just do the work. A lot of them mix both in different proportions. You can't see people adapting, you can see snarky comments, but it doesn't mean that people actually trying don't exist. Although, I need to point out that in "pill" sphere blackpill is pretty popular, because difficulty of achieving what they want went up, their skills went down and even potential reward went down, so what's the point of trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:28 PM
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My ego would be hurt. But as long as everything else is fine, my prefrontal cortex should eventually convince ego to STFU. Because this is how reality works, we cannot be all winners and top picks. I was 3rd choice when people were recruting to a project, still got me a place there. And realitically, young women are often so delusional that they need to lower their standards to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:20 PM
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Women want to sabotage other women, nothing new. Guy is "mate guarding" you because he's invested in you. Since that's your husband... well, this is expected. do you think a man should have an opinion of how his wife is dressed? Let me help to generalise it a bit: if a couple go out somewhere, woman dressed up but the man decided to go full hobo, should she really just suck it up and stay quiet? IMO no, you should be able to say something when your significant other goes a bit extreme. What's "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:54 PM
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They believe it because it's true. You can start arguing about it, it will always end with pregnancy being a truly herculean effort or with swift goalpost moving like "life is not about competing to see who has it worse". But when it comes to men voicing loudly line from the title, you need to have some context: those are mostly blackpillers, experiencing their lives as 20-something males, comparing it to 20-something females they're interested in. Add "dating life is Tinder" mentality and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:29 PM
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Still most men want to start family, so 40. But after 30 women become "short expiry date products" with all consequences, fading youth, way lower fertility, "baby rabbies" and so on. This is of course just a rough estimate, it value/expiration would be all over the place if not for women biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:20 PM
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I remember, almost everyone had a partner, fertility rate was over 2.0, but one day one evil guy decided to found TRP and then it spread like a wildfire. Whoever started reading it became unsuccessful with women, heck, even dads with 2-3 children got divorced and turned again into virgins. You're the guy that thinks dieticians create fat people, because you mostly see out of shape people being clients there? Yeah, I mean, you can find fat people everywhere, but clearly they're overrepresented th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:14 PM
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Could you point out to some posts that made you belive that? Because this looks like a random delusion. all women are programmed and supposed to act a certain, same way. We, people, are programmed and supposed to act in some ways, but those are not laws of physics, we have exceptions **everywhere** from expected trends/behaviours/desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:29 AM
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When it comes to advocating: Because we were not stupid and we were aware that MRAs exist longer than even PUAs, and that they achieved jack shit (and why). Second point is a bit less clear, because IMO more could be done, but there are no local pill communities (correct me if I am wrong), just random people spread everywhere in the western world with very individualistic mindset. You could think about TRP as a community around wiki about certain topic, mostly maintaining useful, easily digestib…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:11 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:03 PM
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I didn't write that they don't do this, but IMO are on average worse than men in this aspect, although I don't want to write dozens of paragraps essay on why I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:31 PM
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Most women are not lonely, they're single. Until deep into middle age, then society almost stops caring about them too, yet (IMO), they will never reach the same level "whatever" as single men experience. So why society started to care? I've seen following quote: "nobody checks on a man to see if he's ok, they check to see if he's still useful". Lack of usefulness is a bigger concern that any potencial unrest now. We already see "stupid incels, we need cannon fodder for potential war reeeeee" at…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:12 PM
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It seems like their idea of what makes a man "high value" is purely about how much sex he gets, and everything else is secondary to that goal. That's your interpretation, and in my opinion it is as stupid as you deemed it to be. But of course this is NOT what community thinks. Pill discussion originated from sexual strategy, mostly about how to get most and highest quality sex. Turns out to get that you need to have plenty of options, and who get plenty of options? People on top of certain hiera…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:40 AM
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As always, back to threatening violence. What does that say about you? You don't think women deserve equality if that means they get to reject you. You want to live in Afghanistan? Go ahead. Yes, threatening violence in response to demands what you can do and what you cannot do. Welcome to the real world, it was always that way. Not that far away from where I live people in thousands are killing each other for it. This should be the same same tier of discovery, that in order to have KFC wings, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:15 PM
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Men commit far more crime than women. Do you think men should be stripped of their rights pre-emptively since they've shown they are unable to exercise their rights responsibly? And who is going to do so? You will convince a coallition of cucks and whiteknights to hurt themselves this much? Good luck. Friendly reminder that usually what's socially possible in a country is within what's acceptable for military-aged men. Check what even happened not so long ago in Afganistan. How is that working o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:28 PM
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It has come up a lot here that someone says that since women now have equal right they "have" to do 50/50. And if they dont want to do that its somehow abuse of equality or something like that. we don't limit other peoples right unless they have comited a crime. Let's assume that group A has the same amount of priviliges as group B, but group B has way less responsibilities. Explain to me how then group A and group B are "equal" or how that's "fair"? Do you believe women's rights should depend o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:51 PM
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You lurked for SEVERAL YEARS and you don't know? Don't you even know what "LMS" is? OP's post is one, big "I lie and I don't know what I am writting about", but I will answer anyway: people in "sexual strategy" forum point out to be "impressive", because this is what is attractive to women and "rewarded by sex". "Internal substance", whatever that means to you, is either not working or working nowhere near good enough. Don't like it? Go and convince women to reward that "internal substance" by s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:21 PM
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Good evopsych is predictive. You can actually do predictions with evopsych. It just takes much more seriousness than "This is... because that I guess". And it is predictive, by that I mean it can predict what most of members of big enough group of people will do. Speaking of "...because that I guess", for example, archeologist that find some artifact literally guesses what was the point/usage of it, but it is ok when they do this. Counter-examples don't mean I'm wrong, no scientist ever deal in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:46 PM
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As I thought, just opinions. You cannot easly replicate stuff here, since it's a soft science, based heavly on inductive reasoning, not "broscience". just "educated" guesses that somehow always vindicates 1950s gender norms. For example, how optimal human male and female reproduction strategies vindicate "1950s norms"? I assume USA norms? Anyway, took me 3 seconds to find counter example for your "always", I don't think you're knowledgable enough to have opinions that strong about evo-psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:57 PM
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And outside of certain "scientific" evopsych circles we look down on that shit with disdain [citation_needed] Since I can find you chemistry nobel prizes who yadda yadda. At least you swiftly corrected yourself that is not "one guy" but "evopsych circles". For one, biology isn't even the right field to study a possible hypergamy I agree 100%, but IMO "the right field" is a direct derivative of biology, and it is close enough to just mention biology, since we're not writting science papers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:33 AM
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So? Wanna catch up with your knowledge by uni books? The Evolution of Desire by D. Buss, a professor at the University of Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:10 AM
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Lack of hypergamy stops men from being hypergamous. Why should even men pursue " women who are in some ways better than themselves?", whatever that means? Wanting most attractive partner possible != hypergamy. Friendly reminder that optimal male reproductive strategy is some form of harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:53 AM
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I think TRP recognizes the problems that men face today but they fail to empower men because they still make it all about women. Typical TRP cirticism rooted in failure in basic understanding what was going on there. 2nd paragraph is also wrong. "Women lack empathy for men" so fucking what? You should be focusing on thriving without women. Men need to lift each other up. Accidentally (?) based and redpilled. What you failed to notice is that community was already super aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:35 AM
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I am not, but that's totally possible and I've seen redpill people identifying as socdem or borderline communist. TRP has just high right-wing bias for many reasons, one of them is that it is basically all men, and men already have this bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:27 AM
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I can compare it to an umemployed addict trying to fix his life by emptying sink and mopping floor. "It's something", it is a step in the right direction, so I won't criticise it hard. But it's not good and NOWHERE near enough. BTW people shit on so called "broscience" too much, at least one bro tells the other what worked for him. Here they even did not test their ideas, it is really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:02 AM
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Their claim is simple: patriarchy is “biological” because men historically provided protection and enforced rights. ..."historically?" Mate, I live in Europe, there is a fucking war not so far away from me, yet I don't hear about women digging trenches, loading 40kg artillery shells or even piloting FPV drones. Both armies are stupid for not having 50-50 gender parity? Nah, you're the one that is delusional. Speaking of delusions... Philosophers from Locke to Rawls have pointed out that rights d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:19 PM
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So you’re saying your ability to reason is so low that you can only see a solution from two centuries ago? Women's suffrage is on average 100 years old now, not "two centuries". My grand-grandmother (im from EU) worked more than I work now, peasant's life was not easy. Less than two sentences in and I think that's enough corrections (or answering) for me before I became pointlessly rude to a random person on the internet, which will achieve nothing besides me (and maybe you) being annoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:18 AM
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80% of my activity here is to reply to redpill-related questions, since I am autistically specialized in it. I won't meticulously weave solutions, since I am nowhere near the danger of having any impact/power to solve those problems. What I've written is one of mitigations, since we cannot go to XIX century. Is this "ugly"? I think so. Will it work? Yes, to some degree, since fertility is a multi-faceted issue that varies from country to country. Why people propose "ugly solutions?" Becase every…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:46 AM
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Islamic Chechnya or Dagestan has rate close to 2 or higher. Middle East is still doing fine. They will never get close to South Korea levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:05 AM
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Why do we hear so much about the loneliness epidemic and not so much about what women have to endure? I hope you're trolling, otherwise... Let's say, it must by hard for you to function in this world with your capabilities. Men in the western world will win every bidding contest who has it worse. Every time it happens we have quick damage control with "nooo muh gender war bad now, let's stop", and whatever was said is going to be forgoten in 5 minutes and you get back to you "men bad, women most…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:13 AM
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So you're going to point at different phenomena in male-female relationships and keep saying "...so this one is a false hypergamy?" No, hypergamy is not a rejected mating dance. Why can't you just use your reading comprehension instead and just accept what I've written above? It means that "your equal" partner is not good enough Maybe this is my understanding of the world in that context, because I have literally written it? You really do not need to semi-randomly keep quessing totally different…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:22 AM
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100% wrong. People whine about hypergamy mostly during mate choise phase, because this is where it is most visible. People use this term to explain lack of children and lack of couples, not why we have divorces or tenstions during raising kids. Look even at pigeons, why the male is dancing around female, and not the other way around, even if later both participate in raising offspring? Because female lays the eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:13 AM
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It doesn't exist in humans nor in 99.9% species on this planet. It means that "your equal" partner is not good enough, and source of it lies in fact than one sex puts disproportionately more effort/risk in offspring that is still 50% of its genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:28 PM
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No, wanting best partner for you is not hypergamy. Delusions in process of mate finding is not hypergamy. And have you ever seen old PUA concept called "plate spinning"? If not, you know not nearly enough to formulate any opinion on redpill. And if you have heard of it, what this is if not a form of soft polygamy?? Can male hypergamy and polygamy be a nuisance to family life, child rearing, birthrates and men's roles as fathers and husbands? Polygamistic tendencies indeed can hurt families and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:04 PM
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1) Offspring 2) Intimacy 3) Sex 4) Emotional fullfilment In that order. You can't or you don't want to provide those? Sorry then you're worse than a sexdoll. Many of those men may have found no women better than a sexdoll, hence those comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:20 AM
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Stop picking semi random numbers. Is it 5-10% or 10-15%? Assuming the latter, 15% for "men in 20s" so 20-29 age bracket and 20% for 20-25 looks totally plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:26 PM
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It seems as if male virginity in early to mid twenties is around 50% That would be an upper bound of my guesstimate for virginity in STEM fields. Why? Sausage party filled with autists. Everywhere else should be significantly lower, maybe 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:48 PM
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But there's not even any interest and no roi for me. If you want any feedback there's mine: you're right, don't waste your time. Or waste it at something more fun. Unless you want to start you own blog/page/YT channel. People that don't like to believe reality, won't change their mind after seeing some hard data, which is already available on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:20 PM
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Tate, and so many red pill influencers have been exposed as either sex traffickers in tates case but just generally losers who have never had a relationship or get exposed for dating the exact women they rail against. Could you go instead to music forum and ask them "How do you reconsile with a fact that the leader of music, Taylor Swift, allegedly released bad album?". BTW I don't follow Tate at all, but as far as I know judge decided that he's not guilty of that crime, you're literally spreadi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:15 PM
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Not from an evolutionary psychology perspective, as this topic is highly controversial and difficult to substantiate in the context of humans, not animals. This is not hard at all if you can stand being a bit vague. Betas are "2nd choise" guys. Every social hierarchy has a dude(s) at the top or near the top, named "alpha", since that's the first letter of the greek alphabet. Below in hierarchy are normal, reliable, moderately successful guys. 4 out of 5 stars guys. But as star rating devolved in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:17 AM
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Lul tell that to my father... oh wait, he's dead now anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:38 PM
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So autistic men are kind of robotic in that sense and theyre the ones that may require assistence and protection. What? I mean, some of them probably are like that, but most people on the spectrum are functioning adults, just with own special struggles. Or its just genetic dead end? More severe male autists are unfortunately 99% a genetic dead end. At least they're rather uncommon on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:47 PM
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Phisical prime? Few years after you started excercising seriously and caring about your looks. Assuming you started young, it will land at age ~27? But women also value status, money, power and those usually come later in life, much later in life, probably maxing around 50? And now let's be frank, men age too (shock), their looks and fitness gets worse and 50 is "too old" for dating market standards, so community estimated peak male attractiveness to be loosely around his mid 30s, but this reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:01 PM
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not pursue education and caree That's her problem with "noone worthy is left", it's not like men react with "Is that a STEM degree? Oh no, there goes my erection". say no to sexual opportunities that she could enjoy so that some day you might want to marry her? That's a tale old as civilisation that men don't want to commit to a "rentable city scooter". Maaany decades ago women were less able to survive alone, so there was more pressure to settle with somebody ASAP. Nowadays this is no longer a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:00 PM
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He's my go-to recommendation now for anybody wanting to redpill themselves, even though he doesn't spew pure redpill, he overlaps with it close to 100% plus adds some knowledge regarding female dating strategies or life philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:43 PM
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that responsibility without authority is slavery. And this is 100% true. It is so true you did not even attempt to contest it. What responsibilities do men have that women don't have? I guess the only thing is that men have to sign up for the draft, It is not only that, for example, men have the burden of performance; in China/Korea it is expected from marriage-worthy men to own his own place, it is his responsibility. Any internal protection in society is done by men, any natural disaster handl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:00 PM
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Can I roleplay similar clownery? most of the painters I know IRL never painted anything in their life How do you know they're painters then? Trust me, it's not hard to tell. They're giving me heavy "painter vibes" uh-huh Should I sent you their photos and SIN numbers too? And my Linkedin? "
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:32 PM
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10/10 idea. Instead of arguing, I heavly recommend investing your own money into it, a consultancy firm turning guys gay. You're gonna be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:22 PM
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I like Michael Sartain, but man, his GF really looks like a caricature. Man... There is plenty of hipocrytes in the manosphere, like it or not. At the same time some people have weird expectations, like If they are so high value and can get any woman they want, then why don’t they have it? I am out of the loop when it comes to redpill talking head, but who from them claims that he is soo HVM? I remember people criticizing Hamza, because he has (had?) average looking GF lol. The main chick is usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:03 PM
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MGTOW-like solutions are fine, but are not an alternative for working dating strategy for most people, because this is not what they want. Just think about it: -how do I get girls? -lol just give up is an option, sure, but not a solution for their problem. And point number one is a part of typical TRP toolset, to aim to have a slight SMV advantage over your woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:41 PM
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Why do you guys feel Redpill became so popular with young men? Check your own title: what alternatives? Later we had an alternative in form of blackpill's "it's over". There were no alternatives, and frankly speaking I have yet to see a working alternative that is not a redpill with, let's call it, "alternative seasoning". how can young men be steered into more positive neutral spaces What "positivity" do you expect? Positive lies? I've seen some ... let's call them "masculinity workshops", from…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:13 PM
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I see Red Pill men on here constantly complaining about "beta buxxing" - women "settling" for them because they are stable providers, while not actually finding them attractive or wanting to sleep with them. At the same time, a lot of the same men say they want traditional wives who follow gender roles, that women with careers aren't particularly attractive ("I'd rather go for the hot waitress", etc.) and that women are misguided for thinking that men care about their income or job. For similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:27 PM
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It's litteraly that simple: just don't do enough to NOT be a virgin. What's "enough" varies greatly from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:25 PM
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You have listed 0 repill figures in your examples, gj. Let me hear your thoughts because in the past I was for the rp when it was about mra’s and MGTOW conversations, then the 30 something steroid induced, pua blowhards came in and started talking(...) ...and it is still that way, just get less popular. You were not listening carefuly, how "enjoy the decline" is a plan to win something in society? From my perspective nothing changes, it was never a political movement. Imagine if you're a body bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:23 PM
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This misplaced entitlement is why people have less empathy for men’s dating complaints They don't have empathy for men's struggles. Period. What you have written is their "excuse of the week" why. When women want to be wives and mothers and it doesn’t work out, they adapt: they buy homes, invest in themselves, find community. They don’t threaten to torch society if they can’t get a husband. Women don't threaten the system they leech money/security from? How noble from them! BTW maybe you have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:01 PM
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And the more she has sex with new men, the more the mechanism "fatigues" and the less her body responds to the natural attachment mechanism when she is intimate with a new man. You should also add to this equation, let's call it, "dopamine fatigue?", where everything eventually goes mundane after overexposure. That includes potential sexual/life partners. This mechanism is not, of course, gender-specific. I have, however, found studies contradicting this claim, as men actually produce 5x more ox…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:31 PM
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I've checked The Enforcement of Patriarchy (2), stopped really fast when I've heard unironic "(...) most restrictive recruitment policies: men only". Yes, "Proud Boys" is men-only. I do wonder if he would we also be so critical to, for example, "Girls with ADHD" for being women-only. As I mentioned elsewhere, you have an example of patriarchy in the bible or in other religious fundamentalist societies. An oldest man is there the patriarch of his own family and women count like "teenagers+", pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:51 PM
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Sorry, I am not going to research and list one by one what has happened till now. But I can give you one example from my memory: before you could have here "fault divorce" if a woman were constantly and persistently refusing sexual intercourse with his husband without good reasons. Now it got "watered down" and scenarios like this count still as a no-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:08 PM
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My wording may be poor here, so let me explain better (I hope). "Redpill" by definition can't allign with propaganda of the matrix. If that matrix leans in one direction and hides some unconvinient truths, "redpills" will expose facts that can be classified as leaning in the other direction, but no, this not mean we have a binary world (like literally in that move) and if in case of USA's politics it leans (leaned?) more rightwing lately, it doesn't mean it belongs to red party or whatever. We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:23 PM
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Well, do you know what this resembles for me? Centuries ago people were asking where are the gods? On this big, f**king mountain. But one that mountain was checked, and gods had to escape to the skies. And then skies were explored and gods had to escape somewhere else to hide there from pesky mortals. Today I am asking where's that patriarchy?. It's hiding in people's minds. Aha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:10 PM
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Cool, find me a name then for a system where women count as not a full adult citizen and men have both obligations and authority over them, like "adopting" a widow. Otherwise as long as we vote 50.2% women into power, we will have "matriarchy", yes? People won't randomly cherry pick facts "but how about this" over and over again to defend this mythical patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:59 PM
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That we have no real symmetry when in comes to minding self-interest in sexes. Women are more self-centered and care less about balance in society, if this does not benefit them. It is even visible by the laws pushed in my european country. Men are also voting for self-interest, but are more likely to yield some benefits to women due to gynocentrism. So if you want to raise "this is not a gendered trait", is not showing the full picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:36 PM
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Don't you see diference between what's written in the bible and what we have nowadays? Patriarchy still exists in the world, but you have no patriarchal countries currently in the west. No, picking random data where you have more men than women in position of some power does not equal patriarchy. Same with matriarchy, 60% of women in gov is not matriarchy. This is not a gendered trait. Yes. But you forget (or don't know) one fundamental issue. https://www.np.reddit.com/r/psychology/comments/7cdc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:13 PM
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No? But overall women will, on average, try to force any system that give them most benefits. Patriarchy has also some benefits to women, so some of them will defend this system not only because this is popular in "the hivemind".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:02 PM
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Kinda wrong place. This is, let's call it, "applied evo psych" praxeology redpill. We're not very political here. But "redpill" itself in the most generic way represents... well, just watch the Matrix. Let's call it "truths hidden from us by a system", whatever that system represents. That's why, in the USA at least, political redpill is rightwing-leaning, since establishment was left-leaning. But this is what I don't get; We live in a world where women experience sexual assault and harassment, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 09:49 PM
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?????? Men who gave up should have MORE free time to argue over the internet instead of spending that limited time on self-maxxing and pursuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:09 PM
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First two are not mutualy exclusive, but this apply mostly to young women, because they did not have many chances to get into high n count. What's the problem to be, let's say, 25, have 2nd boyfriend and slept with 3 men in total? Personally I am fine with either A or B, but slight A preference. Second question, both are fine, but i prefer B, as long as her position is not higher, so I don't need to deal with her whining hipergamy that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:06 PM
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Wow, almost everything in this post is incorrect, that's kinda impressive. Including Women seem to be in love with the idea of liking the "improover" Women fantasize about natural-born "alpha success man", not about somebody who changed himself or painfully molded himself into his current "me". You don't even know ANY self-improving tips/possibilities besides therapy, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:23 PM
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We need to be a bit more precise, because since one point in time, let's say +40, men have it easier even if you count that they need to take the initiative. But for "reporoduction" age bracket? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:40 PM
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Poor women, never responsible for anything, that of course includes voiceing misandry comments. Of course it's men's fault. Men bad, women most affected. my worth is defined by my sexual purity No, it's not. and that each man I have sex with irrecoverably damages that, and then I end up spending my whole life being sexualized my men, being approached by men who only want to have sex with me, isn't it reasonable to develop an aggressive hatred towards men? No, it is not reasonable to do so. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:05 PM
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Those are his opinions, which vary from pretty accurate to utter BS (like that sentence right below the title) mixed with some "tell us how much do you agree with..." studies, which are unreliable at best. Despite those fundamental flaws they got decently accurate observations, like Across four studies, the researchers found that the dominance scenarios were considered more sexually attractive, although dominant John was regarded as less likeable and not desired as a spouse. Besides attacking so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:03 PM
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I looked it up years ago. You have severe reading comprehention issue, if you're talking about those wolfs studies. Please read again and try to find fragment claiming that there is noone at the top lol. Then check our less distans cousin, chimpanzee, how things work there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:58 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy TRP talks about hierarchies not exactly, becase we love them, but because they're the default in species that form communities. This is basically gender essentialism, taking a behavior, slapping a “biology” label on it, and acting like it’s inevitable. Sure, evolution certainly factors at play in explaining human behavior, but pretending that explains everything ignores how much culture, upbringing, and social norms shape us. A guy raised in a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:02 PM
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Wrong and wrong. "Lmao".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:26 PM
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Orion published a video like a day ago about this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afnia7_3av0 My opinion is similar, but not the same: as soon as both parties are comfortable with it, but I have read soo many irrational opinions about women doing it on the first date, comming from men, that I would wait till 2nd date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:44 PM
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I did not list them since I don't remember them clearly and they're not that interesting nor severe. But to be more specific, I think I underestimated how lack of opportunity to meet women organically limits a man's option more than SMV change can compensate it. In other words, plenty of occasions with low changes > barely few occasions with decent chances. I remember also that, for example, perception about "woman's preference changes during her ovulation cycle" has changed, now it is not that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:21 PM
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Problem with "debunking" on the internet is that this is done by 1) people with nowhere near enough knowledge on certain topic 2) people think that picking random study on the internet that not even contradicts, but have different observations, "debunks" that claim. No, this is not how reality works. Most egregious cases is when those "debunkers" complain about lack of sources, but they themselves don't even need those to make their claims lol, like in this case: MYTH: Women only swipe right x% …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:07 PM
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Course corrections? Sure, they did happen. But so-called paradigm shifts? Not even close, and how that is supposed to look like? Even discovering relativity did not make Newton's laws obsolete or anything, just made them not as correct as we thought they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:08 PM
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seeing all these terms, "chads, hypergamy,Alpha beta, biological clock,dating market" etc.. seems insane. Still better than "integral", "lim", "cotangens", "Hamiltonian path", "Radon measure" and so on and so forth in this ugly subject called math. Since every branch of knowledge has its own terminology, I don't think pill-lango is particularly scary or insane. and sometimes I get posts from women who also seem to hate men on my timeline ; You're at least decade behind "the meta" https://www.the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:50 AM
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bro if you're having to approach them then it just means they don't want you. That's not true. Women think exactly the same, and we have a deadlock. You might be "good enough", just not attractive enough for her to make the first move. If you need to be "Chad or bust", then good luck in life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:23 PM
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I have a decent understanding of economy. You either serve your "corporate overlords"/your employers, because they pay you money (directly or not) OR you serve your clients, because they pay you money. So pick your poison, or using more professional language, pick your risk exposure. Any other options are not really sensible. Anyone "seething" about their position is free to check the other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:25 AM
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Anytime I've seen on the internet a lot of women giving pretty good advice to men. How do you distinguish them? Usually they talk completely different things compared to what your normal woman would advice. So yeah... When a woman says "just be confident," and does NOT say "just be attractive and confident," unattractive men will go out and try to be confident then women will call them creeps or call them out for shooting above their league. And it will work that way untill it doesn't. I've seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:46 PM
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I hear they are lacking in personality A lot of them - yes. and are highly materialistic. Let's just say - materialistic. Women are boring and unaware of themselves? If so, that makes up almost the entirety of the human species. Or is it that they are deceitful when it benefits them, an overwhelmingly common trait for men as well? Aaand yes. Good job, you're getting redpilled in a stellar pace ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). And as you confirmed, this is still true. BTW honest men usually don't score nearly as oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:48 PM
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What is your age, and what percentage of women that you have met accurately represent your beliefs? Basically 100%. If that was not the case, I would need to recalibrate them a bit. Some generalisations are also applicable in close to 100% cases. Don't believe me? Then find me a woman with horizontal, not vertical slit. We, people, share the same biology and our biology is the core of our mentallity. When it comes to less obvious generalisations, I think they're viable if applicable for more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:36 PM
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Here, you mean PPD? Not at all. I lurked too much on TRP and other places. why are you not the one actually coping (or something)? Geez, I wonder, thousands of pieces falling nicely into (more or less) coherent picture vs gaslighting attempts, like this one, or strawmans that should be resolved after 5 min research? What should I pick?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:20 AM
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How this is pill-related? Anyway, my opinion is somehow controversial here: if you leap through ladder of escalation and assault somebody with a hard object, even if this is a can of beer, don't be surpriced if that guy will also leap through ladder of escalation with something that will look like an attempted murder. To paraphrase Qui-Gon Jinn: there is always a bigger jackass, so I don't know why Raja gets all the hate. Both tough guys get what they deserve, so society won I guess? BTW nice, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:56 PM
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Inflation is, by definition, paying more for the same goods. There is a popular phrase, that goes something like: Men today have to work 10x more than their grandfathers for women who are 20x worse than their grandmothers ..which is, of course, a hiperbole, but represents sentiment of some people. Dating feels like 2nd job and requires way more energy and effort compared to older times, when people were meeting more organically and had lower expectations for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:57 PM
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And even when the children are there, fathers usually spend as little time as they possibly can with their kids. [citation_needed] never interested or involved as much as the mother is no matter which stage of life their children are in. Wrong, usually it is the way you have described, but opposite cases are not that rare, at least in my country. Do you maybe work in a family court, because people there often have the same mindset. most men never want kids to begin with. Again, that's not true a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:49 PM
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In my experience, men were mostly attracted to me between the ages of 11 and 20 Is this a bait post by a new account? Do you think ephebophilia is just a natural thing, which is wrongly taken as a deviation? Yes, and that's why in the world age of consent is accepted to be around ~16. I assume by "prime" you mean in dating market context. IMO it starts when she's phisically like 90% adult, so 16-17 and ends... depends on the culture and how gracefully she's ageing, but let's say 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:21 PM
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One sentence answer: out of the scope. Mentally ill and socially sheltered men will never get laid following Red Pill guidelines(...) If a product is severly defective OR not being put on the market, it won't do well on that market. Same goes for dating market, duh. Is this approach good for red pill? Are these men deliberately set up to fail? Why doesn't Red Pill address the mental health first, which surely would get men laid much faster than say, trying to cold approach 100 women while unmedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:16 AM
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I've seen recently a couple: a good looking woman and short guy, maybe around 165cm, maybe 2-3cm bigger than her. But key factor here is the reason why I even remember those strangers - because pairs like that are rather uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:01 AM
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What is even this baity post? The usual answer to women being abused by their partner is she should have chosen better, less attractive men.( there is no evidence that ugly men treat women better but ok.) By less attractive we mean "boring" men, not ugly. Not objectively boring, just those not giving those famous tingles. My question to you is that why men who are concerned with dead beadrooms, alimony, child support , cheating dont pick uglierwomen that they arent turned on by so they never get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:48 AM
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I am aware that "neurodivergence" is the biggest problem and the biggest single factor in incel/forever alone population. And yes, many people (including me) had to reach for redpill explanations of reality, because they were struggling to figure this social game themselves. Advising people, especially many men who are likely Autistic who have hit the gym, advanced far into some advanced career field using their special interests, working on social or exciting hobbies, maxing hygienic habits, im…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:29 PM
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Sex itself is not the problem. each man she has sex with(...) Each man that is not you is. My question is, men, does (a) remotely offend you? Why somebody's delusions should offend me? You can go and spin this weird mental model to other aspects of life, like during job interview, when somebody asks you why you change your work 3 times a year, you can answer "I am not a job hopper, you don't like that other employers 'tainted' me, but you're not different, you' re also an employer". Promiscuity …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:00 PM
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I like confidence, unless it goes into hubris. I don't like insecure women, but this is a tertiary factor anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:18 PM
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What is your relationship with your father like? Non-existent. How do you think this relationship has impacted other areas of your life? Vs functioning father? For example I needed to search some things on the internet I was supposed to learn from him and I lag behind in practicing discipline and proper risk-taking. Not in the mood to list all impacted factors and it's not like that's a unique issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:22 PM
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You have described "romance", not "true love" (whatever that means). Teenage love has it's own issues, like months without sex or sometimes totally immature requirements when it comes to your attention. It's not perfect. Plenty of 20-25 (roughly) women also like romance and things you have mentioned. You're meeting either women that are fed up with "beginner phase" and want to advance further OR you're not attractive enough in their eyes and your mere presence is no longer enough (sorry for not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:03 PM
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"Endless" cherry-picked examples like dating apps and renting small single bedroom appartments? Why not cherry-pick wedding industry, diapers-producers and so on? You know why - because it would contradict your claim. Old video with an opposite point of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtvfHnZMcOY The fallout is monetized too. YouTube “alpha” coaches, manosphere influencers, and outrage merchants prey on the frustration. They sell expensive courses, fake brotherhoods, and promises of transf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:52 PM
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In my country in Europe, around 90% of population were peasants. So women didn't have women's right, they had peasants' rights. People were working on the household and in the fields, children were helping since they were 5? (for example by feeding geese). When people got voting right, turns out women were people too (shocking for some), but let's get back to life styles and posibilities. Later we had communism, who wanted bo be egalitaristic and and as gender-blind as posible, no "woke" or "fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:47 PM
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Im not interested in books, or to be more precise: this is not how I consume fiction, but when it comes to being a bookworm I think up to 90% people I know/heard of were indeed women. Anime conventions are balanced in my country as well. Funnily enough dance clubs like bachata are now more male than not, because some people wanted to find a partner that way and I think that even scared some women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:58 PM
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Not here, as far as I know in my city in Europe there is more men, yes, but it is reasonably balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:47 PM
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My claims usually are backed up by experiences of far more than 1 person (me). I just live a life of one nerdy guy. Not very social, although not a total basement dweller. For IRL interactions I do usually nerdy stuff. Sausage fest. Audio equipment? Sausage fest. Got a bit into some less nerdy shit like motocross/speedway. Sausage fest. When I get back into shape I might consider martial arts. It will be another sausage fest concentrating about doing the thing or talking about specific stuff. Gy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:47 PM
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Sydney has better body. That's all. Office worker has: -no resting bitch face on this photo. -"former idol" so already top tier appearance-wise. -she doesn't look older than Sydney at all -Saori looks cute, approachable, femine, charming, sweet and so on -she gives "attainable" and "maintanable" vibes So... I am surpriced poll is that close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:51 PM
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People usually pairbond to reproduce. You want to have any population stability, then need to reproduce. You can't do that with 50 year old woman. 18-49 bracked is reasonable for men though to check and measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:17 PM
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Title and subject contains like 2 different claims.No, women are not a monolith. That doesn't imply existence of NAWALTs nor that you can't make accurate generalisations. Where some people need a lot more dots to draw the line, community was able to figure out long time ago that a lot of women go for the same minority of men. How much is "a lot" is up to debate of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:11 AM
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Is this a stat for "reproduction" age bracket in the western world? Because it looks like one for general adult population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:47 AM
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Nah, it won't work. You keep saying “female nature” like it’s some universal override switch that flips the second a woman sees a rich guy. That’s not real life, that’s cartoon logic. That's the problem. Yes, it's goofy logic, but you made this up. This is NOT what I've written. You misunderstood internet talking heads, now you deliberately(?) misrepresent my points. I can try to clarify, but most likely you won't understand it either, so it is pointless. All we can agree that strawmans in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:27 PM
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all women are hypergamous(...) Yes, they are. (...)disloyal, and only care about status and money. I've watched a bit fresh and fit in my life (and whatever podcast), not much, and this is not the message they were pushing. All care about those two things, yes, but that only is your claim. So, dare to explain/defend it? What they never talk about are women in rural areas. You’re seriously telling me that a woman from Lanark, Illinois, population 1,200 and surrounded by cornfields in every direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:46 PM
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At what age do you think women should start having children? 20+ Do you think having first kid in woman's 30s is selfish and stupid idea? ...why do you expect online redpillers to explain believes of rural russians?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:41 PM
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You can apply redpill the same way, it will work to some degree, but ON TOP OF THAT you need to fix your other problems. Neurodivergent men have very high s*icide rates (and ND women too), mainly as a result of putting in extremely high efforts in self-improvement, yet receiving none to barely any results. I assume "results" mean "getting bitches", because if you see no difference in aspects you were trying to improve, you're doing it wrong, really wrong. Or you have severe mental impairment, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:13 PM
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I use TRP as a "golden standard" and "old guard" as benchmarks. New people are often not a "new redpill", they don't know wtf they're talking about and you're just buying their BS. This makes if difficult to debate with, because it now feels like ANYTHING is considered RP if the person identifies as RP. And "a woman is a person that identifies as a woman"? No? Good, same with redpill. So I was wondering where the people who call themselves RP even get their source material these days. Why do I e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:09 PM
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You should trim off hyperbolic language like "is demonized" or "rmen also get really hysterical", because it will helps you mostly getting non-serious answers. Women are mocked for using gut feelings and intuition for filtering men(...) Because it is not working for them, duh. Preselection works to some degree, but some women rely on that like they don't have their own brains/eyes. And that's a problem for everyone excluding maybe a part of those men. "Are We Dating The Same Guy" are not demoniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:54 PM
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Not exactly, but real comparition would be summarised risks vs risks. I have yet to find something like that, not like I was searching deeply though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:15 PM
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At least this is some hard data, although last range was 50+, so we can say that 60 years old guy has 4.6x higher chances of DNA fragmentation than 25 guy (on average). Chances alone for down babies go from 1 in 2000 for 20yo woman to 1 in 350 for 35 years old. That's 5.7x times in 15 years vs 4.6x in 35. And then compare that to absolute numbers, by that I mean chances of something going wrong, not comparative differences. As I said, men age too, but no, it is not similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:26 PM
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0 concrete informations and "whys" in this post, so let me clarify a bit. Women are born with finite numbers of oocytes, no new are being produced, so running out of them is one form of an infertility. Also, they age more and more and after age ~35 risk of genetic defects starts being significant. And that's why people say they're "on the clock". Men, after puberty, produce new sperm all the time, even long after andropause, so what "clock" are you talking about? Sorry to say, but this is just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:31 AM
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Well, fine, but at the same time what do you expect from me, when personal attacks are in OP's post itself, but to level the field? Just ignore and report?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:49 PM
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I could be wrong here. You're right here, you have no idea about redpill. But for Redpillers. the crux of your ideology is that if you weren't "Born into it" in the sense of having the looks, body, status, whatever; You'll never get a relationship ...that's blackpill. What I am questioning however is, it seems like most people who fit this view are far-right politically. Yup, without digging deeper, there is a natural synergy between "do the work" attitude and right-leaning. How do you defend ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:51 PM
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How about first you understand what "MGTOW" is, then what "monk mode" is, and only then start to make big claims? Posterboy of MGTOWs is a 30+ guy after a very rough divorce, and you type something about being rejected by every person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:23 PM
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Exactly, people with red flair responding even semi-seriously here should rethink how they spend their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:31 PM
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No, but I have overall pretty depressive personality. To be honest I was even less happy during uni years (pre-redpill), but this knowledge didn't change that much, just going to work, having my own money suited me better than learning boring shit and wasting my time for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:23 PM
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Likely yes, that's why I wrote "at least (...)".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:04 PM
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True detachment would probably look more like silence, indifference, or just... Doing your own thing. Yes, exactly. And how do you want to find those people? They're almost everywhere, but how to differ them from non-MGTOW or non-4B? Are you going to ask everyone about how long they're single (if so) and not looking for anybody? No, so you go to communities "we're not doing X", where only thing they have in common is... not doing X, so they bitch about X and convince themselves how X is stupid, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:42 PM
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Men bad, women most affected. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:14 PM
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Nice bait thread. Where are all these virgin men? Easiest place to find them? Try among STEM nerds, or any nerdy, >90% male hobby groups like W40k, MtG and so on. At least 1/3rd of college-aged men will be a virgin there. but I never seem to meet any. ... big part of why they're virgins is that they're "invisible" to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:40 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:34 PM
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That's probably my male perception coming into play, where men just don't want to meet with each other for the sake of compationship alone, they want to do something together instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:33 PM
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So, what are those exceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:12 PM
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Because only company is needed, and sex requires (usually) some time, effort and preparation that could be spent more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:14 PM
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You can't read. would be conditional only on you enjoying each other's company Do you understand what this bolded word means? If that's the only prerequisite, everything else is optional. A guy needs to go see other women to have sex with them? No, he should do this with his "one and only". But in that case we have already two pieces of puzzle: company and sex, and we barely started listing things people need in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:08 PM
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Your ideal heterosexual couple is a sexless friendzone without a common goal and sharing responsibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:52 PM
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1) All relationships are transactional. 2) IMO men like to lie to themselves that this is not the case more than women, eq "I just want to be loved for who I am, not what I do" and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:20 PM
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0. Way over a decade ago it looked a bit different, some women sometimes indeed initiated playful behaviour, now mostly because I have close to no women in my social circles it is not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:33 PM
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There is no way to win as a man, even if you do your best, it still won't guarantee you anything, since there is always "a bigger fish" (better option) she would want to branch swing onto him, or she will leave you during your first more serious case of weakness, c’est la vie. Well, at least women have unfair divorce system as a compensation, but what do men have? It's so over :( Memeing aside, quote posted by you is spot on. But when it comes to the bigger picture, there is a risk, there is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:51 PM
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TL:DR OP convinced himself that things working to some degree no longer works. He didn't need any specific reasons for this, just liked idea of "it's pointless" so much that it was enough for him. Now he's trying to convince others the same way. I just think lots of women have lots and lots of options, are more attracted these days to immutable traits Blackpill 101: only things you have no control over matter, because we say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:56 PM
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and a hyper concern over body count. No, we're just aware that's a thing and nothing new. Some people were promised 72 virgins for sacrificial death, not 72 strong, independent, experienced women. Weird, huh? This necessarily means that you believe a woman loses value when she has sex with you. Why would a woman want to have sex with you if you believe her value reduces when she does so? I am still not sure why people confuse promiscuity with just having a sex life. But then I've checked your us…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:04 PM
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There are many examples of men who don't have all that and still have success with women, both anecdotally from people here and that I see around me. PUA 101: What's is "game"? On other markets, many times, people go for objectively mid products only because of their great marketing strategy. Do these men lie about their life to make themselves seem more desirable? If you want to have greater success, you should learn soft lies. Women already "lie" about their faces with makeup, shape of legs wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:29 PM
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“Criminals are able to attract women!” The women criminals attract are also criminal women. That's a lie, people wouldn't be complaining if that was the case. You just made this up. “I’m working hard even though I don’t want to, because women require me to pay for everything!” That's pure bluepill. You don't know basics, so you feel even more ready to criticise, typical. “That woman is so unattractive, and yet she’s chasing CHAD. He’s just going to pump and dump her, because he’s out of her leag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:22 PM
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"I know better what redpill is than people with redpill flair". Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:29 PM
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Man... that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:51 PM
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I would never say "most men", but "some men" are indeed like that. How much is up to debate. Myself, I am moderately competitive and tryharding and I do this for nice things™ Better appartment, money for my hobbies, a car (or better car) are examples nice things™ But that's not all. Good body also belongs to nice things™ or a girlfriend/wife/family. Some men are fine with getting just ok or bare minimum as long as they need to put minimum or close to no effort. Sounds like a fair deal and pushin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:20 AM
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Don't you think it might make a difference whether you'll choose to date someone depending on if you hang out with them every Tuesday at board game night vs. if you see one poorly-lit picture of them for 5 seconds? Besides, men vastly outnumber women on dating apps. Doesn't that change the equation a bit? No shit women will be picky if they have 50 guys messaging them at once. Only good take from post above, the rest is... I will get there. Yes, context matters, as you have written, and on datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:09 PM
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Redpill men often complain about women who knowingly date bad boys, criminals, abusive men, etc. They are bitter about women who hookup with Chads right away without them having to put any effort in. Basically, they are jealous that they can't date these women as easily as "Chads" can. This is not a definition of "redpill men". For example, years ago "nice guys" were complaining about the same, and they did not want those women, they just wanted female attention, which they got close to none, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:04 PM
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I'm well aware of the OkCupid survey. Are you aware it also showed that women are more willing to message men they don't rate as attractive? Or that dating apps are not reflective of all dating? The only difference is context, this time context of online dating. You won't get better hard data, observations IRL done by thousands of people from seducion-related communities are more adequate, but samples are smaller, biases are bigger and so on. What's the alternative? "Please check in a scale 1-7 …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:09 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20180406045814if_/https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e When it comes to hypergamy, look outside, try to explain why male pigeon dances around female, and not the other way around. When you understand this, you'll be halfway there. Any group with some kind of hierarchy will have specimen at the top, how it looks at different species you can check even here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dominance_hierarchy_species Sorry, I won't do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:57 PM
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This sub is redpill-leaning, but not an echo-chamber. That has literally happened to me, my guy. I had a dude on /r/exredpill flat-out tell me that studies can't be trusted because they doctor the data to make women look better than we are. There is gynocentric bias in some studies, for example when they tried to manipulate age of participants in IQ tests, or spin some gaps in female empathy. Without looking inside you can't say how good is certain publication, but for sure not all are biased. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:44 PM
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Bait by inactive account. Neither anecdotes nor data to seem to convince y'all. When I pull out studies, you just tell me that all studies are biased because of feminism or whatever, This_happened.png Hence the question. What would convince you that TRP is wrong? Wrong where? Whatever, OP is so unique that here slit grew in a different place and AWALT doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:24 PM
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I know that just as any movement does, the redpill has some variety in beliefs and ideas. And some part of this variety is sadly just a skill issue in understanding what's going on. What does redpill mean to YOU? In the broadest sense: just watch Matrix. "Redpill" by itself is just a form of "hidden" truth that environment tries to hide from you or is oblivious to its existence. The easiest and most non-controversial example of redpilling is understanding that Santa Claus is not real, even if mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:15 PM
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IMO this is about perceived "fairness" and unfair expectation vs what they offer. Same goes for job market, where during unbalanced supply-demand times you can find more and more job offers like "we want somebody with 5 years of experience for a pay of an intern" and people complain about it on the internet too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:46 PM
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Technically they have standards, because some of them refuse to put a lot of effort trying to get what's available on the market. "The juice is not worth the squeeze" mentality gets more and more common in some places.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:24 PM
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Flaws of character (usually) don't delete you from existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:46 AM
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I am a real man, so are adult males around me. Who is not real? Fictional men, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:40 PM
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If the average man had lots of options, you think they'd be inherently kinder (...) Probably, because frustrated people are often less kind. (...)give each and every option more of a chance? You think they'd be less inclined to move on to another prospect when things soured? As you mentioned... no. There's a red pill claim that women love opporunitically and men love romantically and idealistically. Nope, men just mostly exist in scarcity and behave accordingly. Women don't, so it seemda cold an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:17 PM
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I remember him using phrazes like "beta cuck" when he was talking about Destiny xD "beta male brainwashed by the Feminine Imperative"? Sure. But I am asking about "beta cuck" as a insult. There's definitely an underlying "women bad" tone in red pill circles. Many commenters were angry and disappointed in women and they put their feelings into text. If you don't know why, you have like 0 knowledge about this toppic. But TRP is not about it, which make sense, disliking opposite sex is counterprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:01 PM
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I've heard many times this stupid argument, that certain people or TRP have no original ideas. Even if this is true, so what? It was marked as "stuff that is true/works" and not "stuff that is novel". However, the difference is that this book doesn't have an underlying "women bad" tone Neither does TRP. It doesn't call you a "beta cuck" or if you don't live according to its rules. Calling people "beta cuck" is popular on maybe some tiktok comments or imageboards posts. I can ask you for some spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:39 PM
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So "incel" is the magic exception, even if the word itself translates directly to "involuntary celibate". Problably I will never get a good explanation why it means something different that it supposed to mean. There’s a difference between not getting sex, and letting the loneliness and resentment spiral into self-loathing and hatred. You forgot about "participating in incel subculture/circles", as some not-very-knowledgable people wanted to push as a narrative. Following this "logic", people li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:28 AM
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Could we extend this silly logic further, to other examples? "Virgin is a state of mind, I haven't had sex in 2 months, I am basically virgin again". "Unemployed is a state of mind, not lack of employment!" "Being fat is a social construct, I don't feel fat even with my 33.5 BMI" and so on. Let's turn language into fluid word salad, great idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:13 PM
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Those are not beta male attributes. "Beta" is typical "plan B" guy, not bottom of the ladder one like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:51 PM
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And bear would save her. That's why they pick bears. 100% legit info, 141% science-backed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:47 PM
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Subreddits like PPD are way above average when it comes to amount of reasonable women. Wanna see ragebaits? Check instagram/tiktok "you will meet someone eventually", will just increase their anger and hatred. Exactly. Coming in and telling someone that has never gotten a match, that "I have gotten thousands, but they are all shit", is going to create an incel. Lack of sex creates incel, not reading stupid shit on the internet LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:36 AM
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I am not jumping, you're ignoring "inconvenient" data I've cited above, those number cannot be made by "occasional girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:37 PM
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By "same result" you mean same 25 year old gf? Then yes, it doesn't get easier by the magic of age, but you'll just have more time to build what's attractive to women. How many women are interested? Estimate from this: According to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey, 63 percent of men under 30 said they were single, compared to only 34 percent of women in the same age cohort. That doesn't look like "maybe single moms". You sound like another blackpiller trying to find reasons why not do anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:13 PM
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Indeed more young women think this way than not. And "looks" matter more short term. Still, LMS apply and 35 rich guy has decent success, unless he's autistic/antisocial. And when you're 25 you can go with looks alone. But what at 30? 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:24 AM
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Yes, they are attracted to LMS, as all women, so they would be attracted to a man meeting their standards. What next? Water makes things wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:01 AM
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You think that because? Even career, women need less a man with money if they make their own money, yet at the same time... go read any random article that bitches about "not enough suitable men", where suitable == higher education/good money. "Success" being overrated for "success object" is beyond stupid take. I am talking about success that brings popularity and status with it of course, getting diamond in LoL or something like that of course does not count. I think men like to think it matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:45 AM
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No this question is for redpillers who often insist there way is the only way(...) ...which "way"? Also, no, there is no "one true way". but your way is only a few in many and sometimes people don’t have the initial means to enact red pill strategy due certain circumstances in their life, like for example gaining 50 - 100k as a threshold isn’t a suitable solution for a college student who is in debt and has to balance both his education and work to make ends meet ...so don't go to college withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:22 AM
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I have a great solution for you. Date a man with children. You won't need to get pregnant or "trapped" anymore. You will be raising people that will respect you and you will have more "friends" compared to dating a man without offspring (your own words). So what are you waiting for? There are not downsides here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:53 PM
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"Fairness" in society? Yes. But perceived "fairness" and balance in your relations is a different story. How, in your opinion, you want to prolong a relantionship where one party feels cheated/used?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:15 PM
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violent toxic men trick women(...) Remember boys, it's never a woman's fault :) just evil men trick them! What is absolutely crazy is that my uncles incarcerated clients are far more likely to be in a relationship while serving time than his high functioning autistic male clients who never committed any crime. a autistic man who never hurt a fly This is 0% crazy once you understand that being "fangless" is really unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:35 PM
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You highlight a desire for your woman to focus on career (fighting against evolutionary drive)(...) Frankly speaking, I have no idea what you wanted to contuct here. in a place where she’ll be exposed to more men (hypergamy risk). RP warns you must maintain control of the woman against risks as betterment for the relationship, especially if you want her to keep respecting you. First of all, noone respects control freaks. I cannot chain a woman to a house heater in the kitchen, and this is not wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:40 AM
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Being "redpilled" is not measured by the size of your biceps nor how "alpha" are you. I just understand what community of TRP wanted to say pretty damn well, and evo psych decently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:02 AM
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Because it's relatable; "Ahh, I am not the only one with this problem, fine". And IMO in this context lack of understanding breeds more frustration than fear/aggresion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:49 PM
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Can I use similar argument on dating apps? "I am fine as a man, because my mom loves me!" ? Or at speedating? I wonder how it would work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:30 PM
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Real life experience create radicalisation. Testimonies find online reinforce them. Because why should you just believe something on the internet if you have not seen anything like this in your vicinity? Ok, you could believe some bad stories, but how common are they? If you read about some terrible divorces and your friend went through some bad time too, it's completely different than reading about, for example, some guy bitten by cobra in a far away land. What's worse, those people have actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:45 PM
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So incredibly critical of women, the redpill denizens, but when it comes to what a man should be doing or bringing into the relationship suddenly it's crickets out here. You're right, but let me explain why things are this way. TRP originated from PUA and this is a sexual strategy praxeology aimed to men, created by men (heterosexual to be even more precise). So focus is on how to get your foot in the door at the first place and to woo some women and not how to create "fair" and functioning coha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:34 PM
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I assume it's rollo for looking like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:25 AM
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You're again 100% right. At least 9 out of 10 men around me in their 50s looks better and have bigger arms. He was writting so much about lifting, but for me that looks like attending swimming pool 2x a week max, for real, what a hypocrite /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:20 AM
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Exactly, typical preacher of it looks like a wimpy, blue haired male feminist that never goes outside and enjoys his wife getting screwed by a bull, as you can se for example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXC1ndA4jDk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:01 AM
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Why the f do you answer to a person that uses word "cult" when talking about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:55 AM
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Good question, and IMO people that still ask women, are not redpilled enough - and I've checked briefly posts with "question for women" flair and found 1 guy with red pill flair asking something out of 30+ threads. So you have made a slight mistake asking redpilled, since they do not do that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:55 PM
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and ive always wondered if the "manosphere" cares so much about mens rights, then why does it only pertain to like your ability to get laid or not? Manosphere consist of many subgroups. And IMO all/most of them cares about men's rights. TRP also knows what is going on, but if you want people more focused on that check men's rights activists. i read a comment once saying that if men really did care about other men and the issues they face in society, it would be able to provide more solutions to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:16 AM
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"a Man will date a woman that works at McDonalds but a Woman won't date a man that works at McDonalds".. That's true. Even for you. Focus on the word "date", since she's your gf, you have likely dated a lot. Now you think maybe about something more serious in the future and her as a big investment of time and money. For serious commitment plenty of men take things you have mentioned into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:10 PM
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In Poland. To be honest, arab and black men are pretty popular here, mostly because they're exotic, but for some it's a rather hard "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:58 PM
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I live in central europe, maybe where you live situation got worse and it is indeed how you describe. In that case... damn, you're f**ked, and I mean on societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:31 PM
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My hypotheses is that female hatred of men is innate when they are free. As a guy there is no inner work or therapy you can do to become good enough, you have committed an original sin by being born a man. Attractive, high status men can only escape this to an extent because at the end of the day they are still just a tool to women, a mirror to prove woman's worth amongst other women. I don't agree here almost at all. IMO average man is not enticing any emotions (excluding maybe some safety-para…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:20 PM
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I mean Chad wouldn't be on this sub lol ...because? I want to read some mental gymnastic at the level of "no rich person rides a bike, because they can afford a car easly".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:37 AM
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I was agreeing in 100% till... These same men would marry a widow with a child.(...) It won't magically make this child yours. This is not your kid, even law agree with this. Have "fun" having extra burden and responsibilities for what? Even if you convince yourself all is fine and mentally adopt poor bastard(s), during any breakup you will relearn that those were not your kids and you have no rights to see them or anything. The "baggage" is the main issue, not ego damages, even if those are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:37 PM
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But if a woman already has everything she needs: financially, socially, and professionally, what reason would she have to seek a partner with even higher status? You're pretty close to asking right question. Assuming this is also not just a made up story, here's somethnig right from horse's mouth: https://archive.is/kQJ9y “I’m financially self-sufficient enough to do these things myself,” said Vorlicek, a Boston-based accountant. “I’m willing to accept being single versus settling for someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:29 PM
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A lot of these men will be like “I want a submissive woman” and then they quickly get tired of it once they have a submissive woman. I think problem lies in fact, that (at least in my observations) universally submissive women can barely be classified as functioning adults, so they somehow figured out that it is better for them to "give the controller" to any other adult person. Living with somebody on the level of not-so-clever teenager will get tiresome, sure. Any other woman I've heard about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:11 AM
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But what if you met an amazing woman, she’s attractive, soft spoken, more emotionally stable and level headed than you(...) I think I know where this is going. (...)She never asks anything from you except mutual respect. (...) ...yeah, I knew it xD Would you seriously walk away from that relationship just because she doesn’t fit your definition of “feminine”? "Ok I know, I know, you claim to do X, Y and Z. But what about this hypothetical magical creature, what now redpill?" Personally, from a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:56 AM
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Redpilled != conservative. You're writting about conservatives, or as you specified, pretty large subset of them. Redpill men should know that they can achieve jack shit excluding wasting time, energy and being villainized, so what's the point? Hence the "enjoy the decline" mantra.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:20 AM
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Women only notice the top 20% of hot men IMO they (roughly) take 20% of male population into consideration at the beginning, but "20% of hot men" is worth forcing themselves to take action, which is like 2% of us? They won't mind if somebody with above average height, looks and money tries to woo them, but making the first move? "Warm approach" is still managable, but so called "cold approach", even if this depends on the culture, is really rare. If somebody knows where this is more popular, let…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:25 AM
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Women are so oblivious that all men have to do is to do nothing to be left alone. They basically never approached any man in their life, so who is going to start an interaction? Other women thinking and doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:24 AM
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It is odd that some people, both men and women, pretend that marriage stops the aging process. No, they don't. If single 25+ women are no longer attractive to men They are still atractive, just 20-25 are more attractive. so getting married young alone isn't enough to save a woman from the consequences of hitting the wall. That's true, so women need to rely on other positive qualities to keep relationship other than "im young and pretty tee heee~", so oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:11 PM
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If anything, it might be more realistic to tell guys dating will get easier at 24-25, not 30s. Yes, but if you're not aiming specifically at college-aged women and you get your shit together, you will have even better chances in your 30s. Most girls don’t prefer significantly older men Yes. But more than enough mid-20s (and even younger) women are willing to date men in their 30s with good perceived SMV, and SMV alone can quickly "unick" them and they will rationalise themselves the rest of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:19 PM
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Accountability seems to be a really important feature of TRP. ...this should be a feature of being an adult. What are women accountable for as it pertains to dating? How would they demonstrate that accountability? Does it have to be a public display, is it okay for it to simply be internal/private as long as it leads to a change in behaviour? Why is it important to you? Examples would be helpful. Accountability doesn't mean "full responsibility", it means discarding "never my fault" mentality. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:42 PM
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Yes? Title: If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? Your reply: She didnt marry up in money but did so in looks, so it would still be considered hypergamy imo See, you answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:07 PM
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To be more precise: A guy that makes more than 95% married a woman that makes more than 99.9%. She would never marry someone like people you mentioned, it was not mentioned to impress somebody, just show a point that wealth is not the only factor, NOT an example of "marrying down".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:03 PM
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Let me present an image from my country, famous TV journalist and his wife, significantly more rich than him. You can find some of the reasons yourself. Wealth is not be-all and end-all, when it comes to what women desire in men. Yes, it is one of cornerstones of attraction, but weight of it compared to other factors varies from woman to woman and it even varies during their lifetime. How can a socially inferior man provide safety and stability to a richer woman? Rich women usually already have …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:55 PM
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For women, in modern world? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:11 PM
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consistently ignore all the men willing to give them committed relationships in favor of riding the cock carousel in vain hopes of locking one down for a monogamous relationship. Some of them will succeeded, so it is not in vain, just their chances are not looking good. There's also much fanfare that these women, unsuccessful in her endeavors, will reluctantly have relationships and children with Billy Beta in her 30's but will forever be thinking about all the hot casual sex with Chad. So not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:31 PM
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Does society see me as having no value since I’m married? sigh my god, people. Do you understand what a context is? You get valued for different things as a friend. You are valued for different things as a parent. You are valued for different things as a employee, and it still varies from job to job. And you are valued for different things as a (potential)spouse. Do I not get a “value” rating since I’m off the market? That's a common mistake for both men and women, when they think they no longer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:08 AM
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That's the problem. With WHO? Can you even read? I don't remember seeing it in redpill spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:03 PM
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Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to be Worse Partners? That's rather a stupid take. Where does this idea that attractive men are bad people come from? You tell me, this is your take, I don't remember seeing it in redpill spaces. Chad will pump and dump you! Chad knows he has options so he doesn’t have to treat women well! Chad is a Bad Person who cheats and lies and leads women on! ...only middle sentence is accurate. But this is not unique for sexual market, same with employment. Sought-after wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:54 PM
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What a bunch of BS. First of all, I am not paying to read some weird claims, and like half of this stuff is heavly paywalled, why do you even link them? Then Recent anthropological findings document how certain lowland South American societies hold beliefs in ‘partible paternity’, which allow children to have more than one ‘biological’ father Assuming this is even true, imagine being so dimwit that you cannot figure out what a rooster, lion or many male monkeys/apes were able to figure out with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:48 PM
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Hypergamy - the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background This is like defining common cold by having a runny nose. It is just one of the symptoms and this definition fails to grasp real clue of what's going on and why. Males are supposed to be these logical creatures. It seems like it would make more sense to date upwards if you want a good life. You DO want a good life, right? 1) This is not what most men want, "woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:45 PM
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you say you align more with the idea not trying to control the things that are out of your control, emotional regulation, self improvement (progress over perfection)? Yes. As I mentioned, we're not purists here. It is about self control (manly and useful), acceptance over what we can influence (and what we cannot) and not being emotional on the outside (manly). Not worrying too much also frees your mental and emotional capacity. Since stoicism has way more useful ideas than not, it if often reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:31 PM
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I've typed "Describe me main tenants of stoicism." into chatGPT and 5.5/7 points match what TRP preaches, only "2. Virtue is the Only True Good" doesn't fit. Those are not the same, but are very close, redpill borrowed a lot of good practices from stoics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:17 PM
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It matters for many guys. For example "he would leave me otherwise and I can't pay rent alone" is not a recipe for good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:24 PM
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that middle aged men can date college girls who sincerely desire them with ease ...who said that? That looks like your inability to get nuances. It is totally possible, but it won't be easy. Getting like 4 years younger women will be easy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:08 PM
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He literally said the upper end that a rare woman who is 23 is willing to date is 33 It is not super rare, really rare is +45 years old gaps. >=10 gap is just pretty uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:04 PM
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Looks, money, status (and power). Try to estimate at what age those values peak for a man, give them different weights and finally try to merge those into 1 value: you will get very rough estimate when a man, on average, will have his peak SMV. Add desarability factor for younger women, but it still will land in 30s. This of course, in practice, varies from person to person. Evolutionary psychologist Macken Murphy says that women who are in their early 20s are the most desired women out of all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:00 PM
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0 sense since most of the creators I know/knew were childless, from memory Rollo and Coach Dead Pill (xD) had child(ren), likely more people from endorsed contributors at TRP had kids, but I was never interested in private lives of semi-random people (for me) on the internet. ...and only subset of people with offspring would be "obsessed" about it at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:28 PM
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Free, unsolicited redpill advice for you: don't spend time researching stuff for people that forgot to do jack shit themselves, it is never worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:22 PM
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Why some ugly manlet would want to sneak his crappy DNA in the gene pool? Good to hear that you're not participating in this. \s Yes, I am rude, because... Why the Red Pill is so obsessed with having kids? As usually, you have no idea what are you talking about, that's not true at all. Next question, please be more creative, like "why redpill thinks the moon is made out of cheese?".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:58 PM
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The idea that you can vet for early signs of abuse or toxicity based on how someone looks is ludicrous. This is, indeed, ludicrous... so noone proposes that? It is just pretty simple "there are like 20 women going after this guy already, estimate your chances of success". There is a saying "men are as loyal as their options are", which is a serious oversimplification and just a half-truth... which means it is not totally false. And when it comes to top guys not caring that much about you: https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:34 PM
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1) There is no exodus on women from the daing market, women just price themselves out of the market. 2) "Choose better" applies for "not-a-shit-person" checks. Those checks are often ignored. Men "not meeting standards" means "perceived SMV standards". SMV and being a good person is barely corelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:05 AM
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Varies from person to person and from culture to culture, but not caring about their own offspring is pretty prevalent. Bragging, being loud and obnoxious and shitting on others for trying to win social ladder climbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:52 PM
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The main problem i have with these generalizations is that... ...that you have no clue how to properly apply inductive logic. I know no place where they teach that in school, some people just learn this intuitively, other don't - and this IMO should be taught in highschools. Your inability (and inability of other people suffering from the same problem) to properly generify doesn't mean that you cannot forge some claims that are almost universally true for all men/all women in context of dating m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:15 PM
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Based & redpilled mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:01 PM
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Basically all men have a time window before they start to think the way you described, or just think that "it is not worth it". What is that time window? It varies from person to person, I would say starting from "2nd date or bye" to "3 months is ok". Funnily enough, I've found those exact values already in this thread. You can forget about impatient people, they're currently not for you. Let the other know you're not very experienced in this subject and they should be more understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:16 AM
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I've seen a lot of "RP" dudes* on this sub refer to women seeking abortions as "avoiding responsibility" and "not facing the ramifications" of their actions. Yes, this is technically "undo" option for women. So? Abortion is women facing their own problems and resolving them in a way that doesn't burden anyone. And yes. Those who are burdened with butthurt: look closer how this whole process looks like from nature's perspective. If you believe life starts from conception, then women are freely wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:12 PM
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For 45+ man also not wanting offspring OR with already adult children she would be a good catch. Her hipergamy will be a bigger problem for her than for him. For anybody wanting to start a family she's simply too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:18 AM
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What's wrong with you people, deciding to criticise something before even getting any grasp of understanding what's going on? TRP: The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. Random on the internet: If TRP was truly about strength,(...) There are solutions for cultivating inner strenthg, there are solutions for cultivating inner peace and so on. TRP takes a lot from both previously mentioned, but this is not its main aim. Criticising…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:09 PM
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Good to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:46 PM
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So you were in remote friendzone, you did not have a girlfriend, even if your thought otherwise. At best you were "dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:43 PM
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How did you manage to have a gf and remain a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:34 AM
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because I'm too ignorant (...) Yes. We have sex A and sex B. Litteral hermaphrodite is AB at the same time, not C. Dozens of potential permutations in disorders of sex development, so we take some from A, and some from B, does not equal new sexes. I will repeat myself: find and describe sex C and you will get yourself a nobel prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:06 PM
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If TRP was an amoral place, aimed purely at helping men get laid,(...) *mostly, not purely. And yes, you're right, if you dig a bit deeper, you will find that endorsed contributors on average had similar mindset. That was a good start, unfortuately, every paragraph below is full of hyperbole, BS, misunderstanding, lies and histeria. Therefore, instead of correcting what is wrong, I just pointed out what's true, way less work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:04 AM
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When half the population isn’t allowed to do/participate in most things What the hell are you talking about? "Most things" for you are saling on the ships (because of bringing bad luck), war and politics? Men were prioritized in succession of the throne, don't remember currently any other big pro-male favouritism. Interesting that I haven’t seen these “aggressive” males in European positions of power Idk, check UK, check immigrant gangs in Germany or Sweden? And overall immigration taking resour…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:48 AM
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I don't remember any society prioritizing men in history, but I am not an anthropologist. We had, and in some places in the world still have, so called "patriarchy", which is "balanced" on the principle that men have more responsibilities, therefore should have more rights/priviliges, and women are basically a teenagers++. Look at traditional muslim societies, amishes or even read the bible. In history we also had rules of warlord(s), where men under him were prioritorised at the expense of ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:55 PM
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Sooo.... There are legal constructs in form of, for example, marriage, to protect women from men running away from responsibilities without consequences. As far as I know, in most western countries paternity fraud is not a big deal, according to a law. If I want a paternity test, of course, this is to some degree insulting to faithful woman. Should she dump me and "advance" to be a single mother? If woman wants a marriage, because she doesn't trust his partner in 100%, only 90%, of course this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:17 PM
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My god. TRP is (...) obsessing over female weight No. but at the same time acting like women are shallow monsters for rejecting the boring guy No? This is the woman who supported him when he was still building himself up [citation_needed] How would TRP react to a post about a woman resenting her boring-ass husband and cheating on him? Probably call her a shallow monster right ? Say she's proof that women are she-devils? If you stopped guessing wrong all the time you, you would learn that "sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:15 AM
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I remember searching for redpill-critique from non-redpill people and... eventually I have found some objectively correct arguments, that were maybe not attacking the core, but pointing out to flaws. Unfortunately I don't remember details now, but I am 90% sure that was inside 'exredpill' subreddit. So like hours (2-3?) of digging to finally find something non-retarded and that came from, let's call it "ex community member", if we can even call this a community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:48 PM
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mixed in with wrong generalizations Has anyone, ever, be convinced by random "nah bro, that's wrong" sentense? Overall I see now, you have no idea what are you writting about. Why not explain your own opinions instead of making me go research random redpill talking heads I have a better idea: please redpill me why should I spend time and do unpaid/ungrateful work to do random lectures (random, because you can't specify shit), preferably with sources, because I see absolutely no point in doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:27 PM
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Can you tell me what exactly made sense ? Everyone keeps saying that but doesn’t elborare As I wrote: everything... in context of intersexual dynamics of course. I got sometimes vague and pretty generic, but still, understanding of everything what's going on sexual marketplace, what are rules there and so on. From bluepills you can often here some ignorant takes like "man... you can't understand women". I don't have this problem now. BTW people are already more specific than you. You have some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:50 PM
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I decided to search information on the internet how to get girls, best from community of tryhards in that regard. Found TRP, everything made sense. Till this day I've found no alternative model that is coherent and make any sense. Either way you're clueless and talk shit OR you have like 90% overlap with redpill without stating its name once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:00 PM
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We have sex A and sex B. If you find sex C and describe its role in reproduction process, it is almost a guaranteed Nobel Prize. I am serious. Good luck. BTW this is not even evo psych, it's pure biology, no idea why you ask redpills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:50 PM
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No. It was NEVER for "equality", it was always the same, before it just was able to masquerade itself better due to various issues needed to be addressed. I understand egalitarians, but I think they're just naive. Feminists are just stupid/vile. Those believes you have listed are egalitarians. And I agree with most egalitarian postulates, this includes 9 out of 10 claims from here, I just don't think people should have the right to vote by mere virtue of existing, so I am more for republic-like …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:17 PM
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Same, nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:28 PM
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Nothing but delusions and lies. I witness people (usually men who subscribe to the manosphere) tell women that if women are abused by their partners, it’s their fault for not having been better judges of character. We should choose better, not just the hot guy with high social status, but the nice guy. Yes, but... since when "hot guy with high social status" abuse women? Why, for what? Of course, many women do choose nice guys. And redpill guys admire and congratulate us for it. Lies, we don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:16 PM
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Dr. K (YT marks him with 'he's cool' badge, lol) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf8bt6fGQyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbmiSXzFrw Not sure if exactly there, but he also talks about "shit life syndrome". If you life is objectively shit, theraphy will just mostly waste your money and time, that could be spent on fixing more urgent issues. Orion Taraban explaining less broadly but more succinctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJWT5TT0cEk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:40 PM
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I do not live in USA, but from distance part of your "science" orgs reached USSR levels of "ideological poisoning". First time I've checked something from APA was 8 years ago and they had shit takes even back then. Modern people need to understand, that any name that is not linked to individual person is just a brand name, and brands changes over time (assuming APA was ever good). Folks should be already redpilled by recent pandemic, when big health-related names struggled to be competent. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:30 PM
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Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? That's a bit more complicated than simple yes/no, but when it comes to being "love-worthy" and by love i mean greek eros, then indeed, those two are the most important factors. Men don't like older women They're not/less attracted to older women to be more precise. I have nothing against somebody that did not manage to die at young age. The sentiment seemed to be if they weren't young and pretty than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:21 PM
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Men prefer women that look like they scored a very high roll on genetic lottery. You can help the nature with plastic surgery and makeup, but at the end, if you want to look as good as possible, those need to appear natural(ish) and believable, so "heavy makeup" is only for you, but not for them. Question for men, how do you actually feel about makeup/surgery? And out of curiosity, if a woman has had plastic surgery, should she be upfront about it? I slightly dislike heavy makeup, that would of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:20 PM
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After reading through this sub, I now understand why men think it’s an insult to say that a woman will be “forever alone” or become a “cat lady”. They cannot fathom that an adult person can be happy if they are not in a romantic relationship. You have reading comprehension issue, plus from manosphere alone, check out MGTOW. Men will chase after a relationship and intimacy, and will enter a state of despair if they do not get it. Many times becoming destructive to themselves and/or others. Some d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:17 AM
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So are you, by being purple pilled, half-flat earther? Kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:00 PM
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I have no idea what to say, from one point of view f**king here like 50% of people have little clue what TRP is (and what is not). On the other hand, Gen Alpha adpopted part of incelosphere lingo and use it of daily basis. Redpill got already dumbed down, people talking about redpill fail even at concepts as simple as "the wall". Some parts got super widely adopted, I think almost every other young person have heard what "Chad" is. I know only one place where TRP is the mainstream... among relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:57 PM
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Girl mature faster mostly during teenage years. Because they’re dating for a boyfriend not a husband The only difference is that they want full package + more alpha traits, and later full package with more balanced traits later for "husband". I’m only attracted to men 18-26 at 20 ...that's so normal I have not idea what to even type here. Can't help you with your perceived immatureness via internet, you need to figure it out using IRL people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:44 PM
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Sometimes I stumble upon people with some kind of weird "redpill poisoning". This might be one of the cases. Yes, human nature, compared to bluepill expectation, is rather ugly - and believe me or not, women are humans too. I am lazy by nature, should I do close to nothing then? Not even groom myself properly and go full hobo? If I don’t give men what they want, is there value in acting like a platonic friend to them? And if so, why? I don't understand this question. Men will want different thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:48 PM
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I keep hearing redpillers say that women should be married by 30 or they are “damaged goods”. sigh No, being damaged goods is something else, 30 is arbitrary picked because is a round number. Women being more "on timer" is nothing new, pure biology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0 Doesn’t matter if she’s young and pretty, if she is immature, imcomptent, and irresponsible, it’s going to feel like you married a child bride. Plus she wouldn’t be a good mom. Weird, on dating apps I see wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:15 PM
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If "no sex" is the alternative? Sure. Unless you are talking about liking "quick round" more, but this is something a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:52 PM
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Do you think there's a tendency to overemphasize female orgasm and overlook the male experience? Yes. But you answered your own question a bit, first we need to fix bigger and more common problems. IMO men are also more vocal and open that roleplaying as sexdoll, so he can use woman's body to masturbate with, is not what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:36 PM
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I wanted to write the same question, just with less short guy. Of course no answer seen, "defensive" dating and fears for me but not for thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:48 PM
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That's just a mean meme, but unironically men "age better" only if they are moving in right direction and taking care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:46 PM
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men (...)value a woman who is either a virgin or who hasn’t had much sex,(...) You're indeed taking crazy pills, who said a lot of sex is a problem? It doesn’t make sense to me how for one gender sex is an absolute need, while for the other gender, sex makes you used up, gross and undesirable? WHO said that??! Neither sentence is true. Classic, you have no idea what are you talking about but dare to blame redpill/men/whatever for that. Hypothetical scenario: you have two women, first one in a sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:39 PM
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I value nothing niche, same as most men: lack of stupidity (more inteligence would be a plus), agreeableness, dependability, laid back personality, same sense of humor, loyalty, not generating unnecessary drama, supportiveness, have your own hobbies or ways to spend your free time, reasonable mental stability. From things more personal, I am more a homebody person, so I would be just incompatible with a person that uses appartment mostly as a shower and bed place. But this is just a quick wishli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:49 PM
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You could be right here, but as far as I know PUAs predate modern WWW internet too. Still, my vague knowledge what was there before I think starts from The Mystery Method era.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:04 PM
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You're either lucky or have super 'normie' personality. In my social circles this is pretty uncommon, at least at the beginning, later people mold themselves a bit to match each other, take hobbies of their significant other and so on. Still this is (usually) not the same as with friends. so how about your list? Is it just 'suck my dick, make me a sandwich and shut the fuck up', or is there more too you than that? What's the difference between your girlfriend and your flatmate or male friends? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:57 PM
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Are you good with statistic? If so, calculate probability of finding reasonably attractive, childless woman in age appropriate for you in your vicinity that, on top of what I've mentioned, shares interests with you, have same sense of humor, stimulate you intelectualy, has great personality, 'decentness', likes similar food like you do and so on and so forth. You won't find your match made in heaven. Stop "using" one person to meet all your vast needs. When it comes to stimulation, there are oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:14 PM
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Does the Red Pill work for long-term relationships? PUAs coined a term "game", which roughtly translates to "marketing" on sexual market. How long can you fare with pure marketing alone if you want longer-lasting relationship with your client? So redpill expanded "sell yourself better" with "be a better product too". Theoretically speaking this should strengthen your LTR potential, but there are many caveats here, like TRP encouraging you for evacuating from bad relationship faster. If status/mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:47 PM
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It is disliked, because "problem people" often dye hair in unnatural colors, "blue haired feminist" is a meme for a reason. Anime-colors look nice for some people when freshly applied, problem is that contrast between natural hair growing back and this fake color looks awful. And speaking of double colors, I personaly like ombre. https://artistikteam.pl/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_2447-642x1024.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:09 PM
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You don’t only about the dude who wrote “the rational male” , the book that is constantly reference in the sidebar and on rhetorical message board is trying to profit off his self published book?? Bruh are you kidding me right now? ...what? I don't understand. I don't only what? Are you not seeing the literal timeline of his life and the ten pretending “but bit but it’s totally matches up!” When he couldn’t actually be doing the things he was claiming the years he was claiming? Why? To he honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:39 PM
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Do you know/remember Coach Dead (kek) Pill? I remember reading comments about his "fictional family". Couple months later somebody found and posted divorce papers from ukrainian court with his name inside. I don't know whether or not Rollo sells some BS in his "CV" for better internet grift. Well, he can do this, this is totally plausible... but on the other hand we have a picture in paint, that matches pretty well what I know about George (his real leaked name), but at the same time tries to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:51 PM
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every loser started acting like they were an “intellectual” If our competition are guys like OP, why we should not feel "intelectual" in that context? And if you don't see it... well, I do not think I have good news for you. BTW Rollo kickstarted nothing, just his books are a pretty nice way to introduce somebody to what he has learned on the internet (and IRL).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:03 PM
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Listen, we're not blackpillers, our perception of visual appealing more or less matches standard distribution. Average height, if in USA overweight (but not turbo fat), getting "fine, but nothing more" salary for his region and so on. Literally, go outside and start looking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:46 PM
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I don't have a time right now to write a lecture why women are so susceptible to preselection, so I will use a simple analogy: Imagine you're going to visit a new city, you got there, but now you're hungry. You see one kebab with 3 people inside, and 25 meters away there is another one with close to 20 clients inside. Which one do you want to pick? The one with no queue, so you won't waste time waiting? Or the one crowded, so you can check out yourself what is all this fuss about? Women, when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:04 PM
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Get one woman, now suddenly three is more easy than the first one. Yes, but that's "preselection", which is indeed powerful, but don't confuse those topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:40 PM
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Without proper context (and IMO you could've provided that context a bit better), this advice is as stupid as "just be yourself". If you're average (or below) and in not female-rich spaces, such way of life will yield you 0 opportunities. What you've written is indeed a valid strategy, but only if she's on that hook or at least considered heavily biting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:18 PM
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Flair. I was clueless, searched for answers on the internet, found them on TRP. So I went from N/A to redpill. Piss off reddit. ...and it will stay this way. You cannot unredpill redpilled person - you can just widen/deepen his/her perspective. Same way relativistic phisic did not render Newtonian laws invalid, it expanded them. edit: FU reddit for "correcting" my numeration
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:27 PM
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Maybe, but OP needs that more and needs to stay off for longer, preferably around 'analog' biology books.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:52 AM
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With healthy spermatozoa and some luck (or not), even precum is enough for pregnancy. You can (over)satiate somebody's libido, but you cannot shut down that male's ability to impregnate other women realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:50 AM
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Freaking where? You cannot "drain" a male that he would lose ability to mate with other females, what's more, opposite effects is visible, called Coolidge effect, which makes perfect biological sense. In many species males are just "glorified penises", most extreme case I know is blanket octopus, where male role is reduced to "cum and die" lol, yet this is still not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:31 AM
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This is an equivalent of talking about planet Nibiru hiding around Neptun or whatever and when asked for a source, you point out to proof that Neptun exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:23 AM
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Fit, healthy 33 years old women can (on average) have higher libido than fat, stressed, low-T male counterparts at the same age. But that's cherry picking and speaking of testosterone levels, do you know how female organism (on average) reacts to higher testosterone levels? Yes, it boost libido significantly, some women can get into teenage boy's level when it comes to thinking about sex and masturbation. And guess what sex has T levels waay higher than the other? From evolution's perspectives f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:18 AM
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TheRedPill was (and should be) about intersesual dynamics. As someone who just had a baby,(...) Well, burst of hormones inside your body is good for your child and your family, but it is not like everything needs to revolve around those topics, that includes what TRP is about. Im in my mid 30s and this place is rather for not-so-young people (this is not TikTok). If I had children, I wouldn't get time to spam on the internet that much for obvious reasons, so you have a heavy selection bias here …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:29 AM
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Being edgy on the internet is just for shits and giggles. Then they will grow up, will experience real world and they will stop being edgy... but they might be radicalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:46 PM
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Damn mate, where do you live and what do you do for a living, if this is your reality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:29 PM
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Just date? Sure. Settle for? If she's in her mid 20s being broke is the expected tbh. But somebody my age? I would hestitate ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:28 AM
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Great redpill for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRPkxJbPVk Besides that, I have no original qualities to list that were not listed yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:24 AM
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Wtf is wrong with people here today, Rollo is nowadays "some guy" and some dubious (at best) claims became "fundamentals"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:17 AM
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I don't have twitter, checked two examples from google, found nothing matching your description. It's the usual of mocking women who waited too long and/or are delusional about their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:10 AM
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tell men not to ever marry (...) that marriage is bad deal for men See, you explained it yourself. (...)or commit ...that's new outside some MGTOW groups. At the same time, these same guys will mock and insult women who also choose not to marry or have children. ...who and where? Classics like whereareallthegoodmen are not about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:06 AM
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I will generify: most of insults are unproductive for any change, it's just a form of venting. And you cant even describe what makes him an incel? Typical problem with modern murricans, just throwing words with 0 understanding of what they even mean, just to make some useless noise, yet super eager to lecture and to try influence others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:05 AM
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younger men are way more masculine than older men This is just a childish gender-flip, that doesn't work at all in reality, similar to this meme: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1jajy1vkh0j71.jpg (...)and have better quality of sperm But that's true, althought difference is not that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:05 PM
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Read my post once again, slower this time lol. It was not aimed directly to you. When you read on the internet "you should have a colonoscopy at 45", you will get offended because you're not 45 yet? (assuming you're not).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:40 PM
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It can be seen that way, but IMO people exaggerate it as a big problem - therefore you should stfu about that past certain age. I've read a post from a guy claiming to be meeting and later sleeping with a "corporate nun" - 29? (don't remember exact number) years old and she turned out to be a virgin. Home-office-groceries-home and years can pass by - and this is 10x more easy for men to achive and there is nothing about blaming other gender nor "willingly choosing" when you're just drifting thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:20 PM
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Not exactly, they can (for example): don't know how, don't know where, decided that being blamed for not trying is better than being blamed for trying, they might think they don't have a chance, "a juice is not worth the squeeze" and so on. Women don't know a "proper, working protocol" either, they just love to blame others for not winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:36 PM
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All you have to do to be a virgin (as a man) is to remain passive and do nothing. No woman will ask you out unless you're really attractive or she's really desperate like single mom of 3 from 2 daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:03 PM
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Only subset of somewhat attractive women that got ignored (or rather: quickly dismissed) are "sexually repressed" but excluding any reasons/causes for that... they're still women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:11 PM
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These women exist in my life, not in my head. What's funny, we both wish that would be true. Unfortunately people then interact with real women, usually get burnt and therefore angry and then redpill is blamed for creating angry men. Nah, they're angry because those better, different (and IMO somehow even inhuman) women are nowhere to be found and net negative difference between expectations and reality causes butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:06 PM
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A tall man isn't objectively a better choice than a short man, even if most women prefer a tall man It doesn't matter. We're talking about what is wanted and desired, not what is good (or not). he analogy is more accurate as "we've been selling red shirts for the last 20 years and they make up all our sales. There might be an untapped market in other clothing, but I'm not going to consider it because all our data shows red shirts sell" PUA (and TRP) responded to what is wanted and desired by wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:53 PM
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Yes. But... Let's take as an example a height filter in bumble dating app, since this is a hard data. Some women like just above average height, others want to have somebody very tall. "AWALT" was used as a counter to unicorn chasers. In this context, short kings enjoyers basically do not exist. It depends from woman to woman how height is important for her and how much of that "tall" is enough, but here it always an advantage and "different taste" women exist only in fantasy land. Imagine we wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:31 PM
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Because every woman I know is a result of thousand of years of sexual selection (yes, even those from in vitro kek). And some traits originated from this process and therefore are present in almost every living woman. You could also extract some "AMALT" traits from men, just this was out of the scope of TRP, so nobody talks about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:00 PM
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Ah, classic. "Don't deal with the girls that exist in the wilds, instead you should focus on the girls that exist in my head, with standards and integrity". I agree that PUAs and TRP men operated on some subgroup of women, there is some selection bias. But I don't agree it is just a small subset - rather a small portion of women is excluded from the dating market (eg. highschool sweethearts with everlasting relashionships or women from really religious communities). But that selection bias is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:22 PM
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Nice enemy propaganda bro. They also tricked me into thinking that feminists didn’t care at all about me, and that they wanted extra privileges. "Tricked". And what made you change your mind, eating only 200% processed soy food dipped in corn syrup? Because all your post is "... maybe they could do ANYTHING?". They haven't done anything and they won't, last time I've heard proposition of doing anything for young men's benefit (in USA) was when they tried to snatch some voters from Trump lol. On …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:53 PM
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No idea about political struggles, but withholding sex might fix a problem with angry incels, that will show them. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:20 PM
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Good point, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:08 PM
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I do not live in US, but in EU. Excluding immigration-related crimes and real war near the borders we have less and less wicked shit - yet "new thing bad, I don't like the new thing, if something bad happens, new thing for sure is guilty" rethoric is alive in at least last 50 years. https://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2540&context=hlr OK, maybe TV not bad, but video games bad for sure, have you seen Mortal Kombat? No, stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:02 PM
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I blame violent video games and/or TV shows for this tragedy. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:40 PM
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I never had an orgasm and wanted to work on that but I’m not able to relax during sex for couple of years now because I’m over 31 now and I know that my husband can’t be attracted to me because I’m old. I will be snarky and say that's because he's not your first choice alpha male and therefore you subconsciously don't enjoy sex with /s And now, unironically, I think you need some kind of therapy, you have a weird "redpill poisoning", which is (surprisingly to me) somewhat common. Somewhat equiva…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:36 AM
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Yes, putting a lot of effort and time to get money and status is pointless, if it won't work in the dating market, "poor" guy will be left with money and status, sad. If he was smart, he would just complain on the internet saving a lot of energy, lul. If you had to make all this money and get all this status does she really have “burning desire” like some of these red pill guys talk about. Probably not. I am not sure about money, but really high status works that way for sure. It just seems like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:54 AM
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Im getting into my mid 30s, so 30yo woman looks more and more reasonable. ...but I think I want offspring, so 35 is too old, sorry. As a former red piller ...lol The Red Pill isn’t a one-size-fits-all ideology; it’s more of a toolkit to pick what works and leave what doesn’t. Indeed. Hypothetically, let’s say you’re a single guy, and you meet a beautiful, grounded woman in her mid-30s who’s genuinely interested in marriage. She’s attractive, down-to-earth, and you have a great connection. Would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:02 PM
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8 for providing money for my family, if you want to have nice things, you need to invest in those time, effort and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:54 PM
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....redpill was never dishonest about this? TRP was never a "society-saving plan", you misuse it and then dare to criticise for not doing that well in a scenario never designed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:54 AM
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Cons of option 1 is not "men unhappy", but demographic collapse. Have fun. Option 2 is solution for an individual, not society-wide. If, theoretically speaking, most men tried harder, it would just fuel hoeflation further. Option 4 is feasible, you just need some society-wide changes that revert bad decision and/or crisis, either of safety or economical. Most probable outcome is a slow collapse and being replaced by more long-term functioning cultures that are currently regarded as "traditional"…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:49 AM
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That's a very good question. Stereotypical beta guy raising 3 kids (that includes 2 that are his) is objectively speaking way more successful in sexual marketplace than Chad with 0 offspring, who was mostly busy with testing condoms' resilience against STDs. But we're humans and humans have ego. And, yes, women are humans too. Just buy expensive ring and fund honeymoon trip a girl you got your best BJ from, and for the future mother of your children... well, ring from a bubble gum capsule is fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:37 PM
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Because preferable option "alpha bux" is pretty rare, so women got this "brilliant" conclusion that not all needs/wants has to be fulfilled by just one person - which is pretty logical. You cannot forget that their needs change during lifetime and more weight goes from "fun" to "secure". Women are just oblivious and/or don't care that ""privilige"" of paying, or just providing any other sort of support, is a terrible deal for "Mr Beta".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:44 PM
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When I was a teenager, I was desirable (not super, but still) to women. Did not amount to anything due to being borderline autistic back then :) but even nowadays spinning plates would be too much hasle for me. But likely I would leverage my attractiveness for passive dread, so I would NOT need to deal with drama or other downsides that often come with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:29 PM
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Don't check "no hymen no diamond", it would stress you too much. I am not in mood to comment on some histeria that other sex have standards too, but I need to point out one thing: That you're not worthy of love if you have made some mistakes in the past. ... if you can be "not worthy of love" because you're missing 5cm of skeletal length, I see no reason why we could not have harsh, arbitrary criterias in other areas of life too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:06 PM
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I got the sense most of the Redpill guys just wanted to bang sluts while at the same time hating them for not being virgins. Wrong. 1) Good try at spotting that tradcon != redpill... but tradcons want virings, but redpillers? It varies greatly. 2) What you have written here doesn't make sense and it's false. Easy women (sluts) are just not respected, not "hated" by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:23 PM
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Redpill men usually don't want marriage, unless it ends with immigaring to a different country, trying to fulfill fantasies there. However, there’s a contradiction I’ve noticed. These same men will praise women from places like the Philippines and Thailand for being “feminine” while also celebrating how easy it is to get sex from them on Tinder. 0 contradiction here, "feminity" (or lack of it) and not being "easy" is barely correlated. So, my question today is this: do you truly want a “traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:16 PM
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You are right here that this is not without its reasons - but still, my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:00 PM
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Yes, they communicate differently, because "blunt" communication is different from "implicite and indirect" communication. And OP is right, despite superior (on average) linguistic capabilities, they're bad at communication, because for them plausible deniability > effective communication. They should just record (on video) men communicating and women communicating, and other people of same sex would just try to figure out what message recorded person wanted to convey. After seeing like 95% corr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:00 AM
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You just need to be on a spectrum, and that's all you need today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:34 PM
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Sooo.... Women lie abot their sexual history, about their body odour with perfumes, hair color with pain, face with makeup, they fake orgasms (and so on), everything too appear more attractive, but you need to be as honest as under an oath before supreme court? There is your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:03 AM
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Yes, that's a pretty damn accurate definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:42 PM
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I believe its surprisingly easy to transform a guy into someone that gets women(...) Some of them? For sure, so called "failed normies". Unfortunately, it is what it is. Good luck with your endeavours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:58 PM
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You can help a man, but you can't help men. Problems are structural, it is mostly lack of women in your social circles, lack of so called "3rd spaces", women's hipergamy not ready to face dating apps/social media dating market. Then I would put a couple of less important factors, compared to them "problems with social bonding" are rather small (even if might bigger than it used to be), unless we're talking about autistic communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:45 PM
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Ah, old manosphere post. And he's totally right. Credit where credit is due, Peterson's apporach to the world is useful, if you're on your knees trying to stand up. If you're already walking, you need to ditch him, because he's a tradcuck. He doesn't care about your wellbeing, only about the society - society that in many western countries is antagonised against you. "Just take responsibilities bucko!", completely oblivious to the fact that reponsibility without authority is slavery. Why would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:31 PM
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Hi OP. I see you've made... specific thread. Is everything ok? Do you struggle with your career, romantic life? Are you searching for fullfilment? Or maybe just having a bad day? Anyway. 1) Not a lot, but yes. I think roughly 40% of men in my social circles are single. 2) Not anymore. 3) My family is small and I got along with them. 4) Move me to e.g. different country and I would likely have problem with creating social circles from the scratch, but maintaining/expanding the ones I have right n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:01 PM
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What your describing is called MGTOW and they used to have a sub on Reddit before they got banned because they got infiltrated by the black pill incels who distorted their original message. This community was doomed to fail anyway, as all "we don't do X" communities do. If X (or rather - not doing X) is the only common think they have, they will devolve into bitching about X. MGTOW, Atheists, Childfree... doesn't matter. And what OP described doesn't fall that well into MGTOW cattegory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:03 PM
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Sexual market is... a market. So you want to compete on this market, but for now you're lacking customers. What do you even expect to hear other than "improve your product"/"advertise better"/"change price"? "Go to" advice from that three is he's always told to self-imprOOve even more Basically, what it really comes to is that unless the guy is a fully self-actualized peak human, he always has more work to do and so every man's complaints is shut down with the retort that his lack of self-actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 06:45 PM
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Cuck fetish repulses me in case of men, and weirds me out in case of women. I would feel really uncomfortable engaging in this kind of fetish and I'd likely start to question her own sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:21 PM
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Redpillers especially the manosphere grifters treat it as some holy grail No. They say it's the most important thing a man who struggles with dating should do Hmm you might be not wrong here. Redpillers often downplay the importance of facial attractiveness No. and claim muscles acting masculine and holding your frame makes you a Chad. No. My gym is still WIP sigh so can't tell much from my own experience, but overall this is solid 3/10 post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:32 AM
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This is "vaccines cause autism" of "pill studies" I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:30 AM
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Unironically erective dysfunction will hinder men more with age than sperm quality, although spermatozoon liveliness is a problem nowadays (they're not moving enough). Genetic risk increasing with age is indeed miniscule, compared to what females face, because of the difference how gametes are produced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:59 PM
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I keep hearing how hard dating is for men and how men are so lonely. Yes. Keyword here: Men. Redpill men typically say that they only date women under 25 and then complain about men having it hard in dating. That feels like to me the inverse of women only dating the top men and then complaining about how picky men can be. Most men in the western sphere complain about having it hard it dating, redpillers complain because they're men too. Also, only some of redpill men try to date exclusively coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:41 AM
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mega red flag This should be reserved for dumpster fire women ready to ruin your life, not for somebody with not sorted out part of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:57 AM
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I've spent a lot, because this is one of my hobbies and I can tell you, this is not that much content for your ordinary person, if you need to spend weeks or more absorbing theory you're doing something wrong, same with creating your own diet or bodybuilding - this stuff in order to work needs to be applied, not studied. Speaking of "applied", info you will get from science books is rather not being close to "applied science" and guys just need some guidance and rules of thumb what works, what d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:25 PM
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Sorry, but you sound weirdly detached from reality. People want cookbook solution for their problems, in this case the problem usually is (to put it really bluntly) "how to get and manage hoes", nuances and in-depth dive in that topic 1) is rather not what they want or even need 2) it takes A LOT of time. If my problem is "baking a bread", I will search for text, or even better, a video with quick tutorial, recommending me instead 800-pages long food science book as a starting point would just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:57 AM
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I don't talk with my mother/cousin about that, because... what's the point? And I don't think my mother has strong opinion about feminism in any direction. My thoughts about feminism? "Path to hell is paved with good intentions". People thought changes done to society were straight upgrades, not trade-offs (like basically everything in life). I have mixed feelings about early stages (but overall I am ok with those changes), later stages are pure cancer (won't set precise boundaries because I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:52 AM
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Components of a system have fewer distinct properties than the whole. Mate, you have likely autism and it still doesn't make sense. If 5 students in a 30 people class are fat, class does not inherit "fat" property lol. Such advice not explicitely talored to an individual man and as such addressed to men as a group contains an implicit premise. It implies when adressed to men as a group that men have not achieved some arbitrary subjective standard of self improvement by virtue of there being no n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:16 AM
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So you cherry pick one study that says otherwise to common (here) knowledge and decide that this the fact? Lol, gj. Any ideas how this is possible contrary to other sources and simple fact that more boys are being born than girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:13 PM
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????? It is "I actualy did what they told me to do" redpill (not binge tiktok watchers), and it is not even close. You might not believe me, but members of "how to have more success in dating" club will have... more success that your control group of random people (bluepills) or "it's over"-vibing blackpillers. You could say that attractive extraverts beat everyone, that's true, but context of pills... come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:02 AM
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I don't know who, for sure not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:43 PM
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TRP is (was?) a sexual strategy subreddit for men. It evolved and expanded into different spaces and aspects, but the core is the same, you can even call it "how to get your dick wet". First of all, the "science" they use is often heavily misinterpreted. ...do you have any scientific evidence to back it up? Second of all, you can't say things like "women are hypergamous, therefore women should lose their rights and we should return to the patriarchy". That's a huge jump in logic right there. Ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:04 PM
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Quick answer: I don't know. Knowledge gathered by PUAs and then TRP were just testimonies, experiences and note-compatision between hetero men trying to woo hetero women. It got expanded later by, for example, evo-psych, but still non-standard cases, non heteronormative were simply... out of the scope. And I did not pursue this knowledge myself, because I was not interested in it, so I don't know. But Do all women have zero internal sense of sexual attraction, or just the straight ones? Nice hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:47 PM
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OK, let me explain. 20/80 comes from Pareto's principe and in this context is a form of describing "winners take all" market. What's exactly is top 20% of perceived men SMV is unmesurable - you can only estimate it. Women's preferences are roughly the same, but if you want to be precise, then you will be met with personal preferences that not only vary from woman to woman, but her own preferences changes as she ages. One woman can care a bit more about height, other about face, another about sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:06 PM
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Yes, this is an oversimplification, still good enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL13EeEhgag Bordering yellow and green zone, likely just stolen women's tech of monkeybranching, either way waiting for delusionary "the one" that doesn't exist, or just somebody that in his opinion will match his current/future SMV. She might be not hot enough or not mentally stable enough for his liking, just almost there, but still not there. he is dragging her along and wasting her time. Yes, you're right,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:17 PM
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Well, yes. Marriage in western world is terrible for men. But so called "settling down"? As with everything in life, just a trade-off. You gain something, you lose something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:35 PM
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Imagine answering honestly question this loaded lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:28 PM
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Self proclaimed sigmas are just failed ligma male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:23 PM
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Have not read book, so no opinions there, I will just comment on this short clip. And he's wrong. Marriage is objectively bad for men, it was explained so many times and in so many ways. Pair-bonding? Yes, it is good for men, most men want partners. But unless you want a family ASAP... I don't think "wife" is an upgrade to a "girlfriend", I am afraid it's the other way around. On top of that, "failed" men are alone more than getting a spouce "unfails" you. He has some good points like "emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:59 PM
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It depends on the country, but well, likely indeed "very" adj. was out of place here. And no, as you can see people don't like being "settled for" by fat girl. It is not only a matter of your ego, but also a forecast of relationship success and future sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:16 AM
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Tina Believe me or not but "dog mommy" is the deal breaker for me. Sally Once decided to "just go to Italy" and then did. I don't know if I would go for somebody with personality this different, but overall sounds fine. Jane Sounds as much 5/10 as possible personality-wise. Also fine. Anna Plays video games and kicks your ass at them. Doesn't exist. But let's forget about that, excluding some cringe choices she's also fine. IDK, Jane or Anna likely, can't be arsed to analyse what fictional chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:26 AM
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IMO Heather is the odd one here, wouldn't consider her, other are comparable-ish and...fine? Probably Mina, although I don't like very short girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:12 AM
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More "apples to apples" comparison is twitch e-thots grifters vs some manosphere grifters. Soft prostitution is something else, let's not talk about your average onlyfans content. Manosphere grifters are still more respected, because their grift, on top of being in shape, requires skill, charisma, some manipulation tactics... E-thots just need to score good on genetic lottery, do not screw this up by getting fat and/or clumsy and simps will do the rest. It is not a respected profession... well, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:12 AM
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while Tate is a hero of the manosphere. [citation needed] He just grifted his way to be super popular, so even normies know who he is and take stupid assumption if he's that popular he needs to be super important to the whole manosphere. Give me a break. Different people are respected in the different part of the manosphere. ...and your question doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:10 PM
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Everything is too fuzzy. I explained that some people can derive some kind of benefit from that behaviour, not if this is "ok" or not. With MGTOWs and atheists we have the same problem: normal people are invisible as members of those social groups, and noisy and pesky ones stick out. Atheism does not threaten anyone. It does not make fun of people. It does not try to 'warn' other people of thing. Atheism? Yes. But check r/atheism and you will get different impression. Same with r/MG... oh wait, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:23 PM
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MGTOW is not an ideology, same with, for example, atheism. It is just a lack of something that is usually considered a norm, in this case no cohabitation or having seriouls relationships with women. It’s scientifically incorrect (Darwin is my source) to believe that half the human population is born with less sympathy. Women have a bit different sympathy than men, this result even in a different morality. Hurting others to 'evolve' or rewire oneself isn't justified. I'm not against your ideology…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:41 PM
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If you're in top 10-20% of men, some women will try clumsy advances, mostly indistinguishable from being nice/social/polite. If you're around average or below, just do nothing yourself and nothing will happen to you (unless somebody from your family would matchmake you).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:34 PM
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If F&F are not redpilled, then barely anybody is... unless something changed in the last few years. Although I do agree, I wouldn't call them the golden standard of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:44 AM
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The main difference is though that companies need customers to survive, so they have to be customer-centric. Men don't need women to survive, so they absolutely don't have to be gynocentric. Good point, I use this analogy because it is super simple to understand (I hope) and good enough, not because it's perfect. Speaking of real intentions, check how companies operate when there is no more market space to get, but growth and profits dogma still apply and they try to switch to milking their cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:25 AM
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I wish you were aware that: 1) This film was not made by 2 women, it was made by 2 men that desided to transition YEARS later, and even if it were, what does this change? 2) Thinking Matrix might be about "transgender" is like beliving nazis escaped to the Moon/Antarctica. I won't do unpaid job explaining 'why'. 3) Matrix doesn't exist Mr Anderson, nor does Zion, now please get back to your cubicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:48 AM
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it dictates that men who struggle to get women must participate in an elaborate self-improvement ritual- by lifting, getting rich, practicing "game", etc- to eventually fit into TRP's prized archetype, a hypermasculine alpha male who holds frame, spins plates, and DGAF. This was dictated to be the only acceptable path for men, and de-centering women wasn't even an option. Unfortunately I've seen same messages (in substance, not word-by-word) from some notable members of TRP community... and I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:32 AM
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You got it wrong IMO. TRP is TRP, pragmatic sexual strategy guide for men. Stoicism is definitely more vast, has different aim and goals and TRP NEVER wanted to compete with it or reinterpret it, just took some concepts from stoicism that are really useful for an individual and... that's it. Emotional Invulnerability: TRP advocates for a form of emotional self-control that often translates into emotional suppression or detachment, particularly to avoid showing vulnerability in relationships. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:44 PM
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Yes, EeViL group on the internet wants to drag you down at all cost because reasons. The purpose of this lie is to keep men from learning the skills they need to vet women(...) Vetting is part of core redpill strategy. Women will dump you if you cry / are vulnerable / show emotion. That's very popular topic in many places on the internet, including reddit. Why don't you find one of those "Men that opened up to the girlfriend/wife when they asked(..)" toppics and go there. Start from "I know you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:11 PM
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And during this age women weren't working? Where? in 1950s USA? I am not good at history, but women being able to not work was a rather rare privilige of upper-middle (or higher) classes. Still, hypergamy (and other instincts too) is not something like fashion or social norms, that it can change in just one generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:23 PM
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Mate, I know it varies through times and cultures, but even in ancient Egypt over 4 thousands years ago women were working to sustain themselves. What are you even talking about?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:33 PM
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For me ending hipergamy is like rewritting human nature to some degree... and good luck with that. It used to be 100% of women wouldn't date someone who makes less money than them. Now it's all the way down to 22%. ...it was never a 100% to begin with, but..., for 22% of women in this survey this is a dealbreaker (say they wouldn’t date), but how much would be unconfortable/unhappy about that? Women are still not very good at negotiating with their hypergamy, check in [current_year] how many car…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:11 PM
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Few comments from my side: 1) What's the most important cornerstone to redpill is debatable (if there is any), but I doubt this is it. 2) Nitpick, but this should be called "Briffault's observation", this is nowhere near as "strong" as laws in hard science. 3) Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something" ― Chris Rock Poor men not being under an umbrela of this magical force called "unconditional love"? All love is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:52 AM
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https://theredarchive.com/ But this is too vast for "cookbook". https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/i-created-a-pdf-of-the-sidebar.358435 Here you have sidebar, this looks like college notes for final exams, lacks a bit of structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:22 PM
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So if it worked for them, why do you say it's "useless"? Because this alone won't fix all your dating problems? You still need to be somewhat attractive or rather proactive, but IMO overall this works better than dating apps (duh), speeddating, cold approach. Women treat men met organically a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:01 AM
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Cool hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:41 PM
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let me extrapolate that one example that didn't work out for me into infinity. To be honest, I have similar issue, because most of my hobbies are overwhelmingly male. But at the same time, I know/knew A LOT of couples that met through shared place/website/forum/chat/workshop linked to a one, or the other hobby etc. Why are you oblivious to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:39 PM
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Yes, I (myself) am spiteful, because NOW some people rediscover sexual dymorphism and that men are needed I don't know what are you talking about girl, the future is female, everything men can do, you can do better, now grab the gun and smash the patriarchy, show 'em how it's done! It's HER turn! Men are just useless and oppresive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:13 AM
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1) What you have written is an oversimplification. 2) Do I need summarise most of the TRP guidelines in a few sentences? Well, this is possible, so: a) Get as attractive as you can b) Present yourself in as attractive manner as you can (game + frame) c) And present yourself on the market as much as possible, at least for some time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:54 AM
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Blackpill uses real evidence and real life examples (contrary to te blue pill's wishful thinking), but perception is heavly skewed due to some data misinterpretation (like when years ago I was arguing with one guy that life is NOT Tinder, and he shown me study where 47% of young couples met "through the internet". For him internet == Tinder) or due to real cherry picking of examples to match the thesis. So you can have some broader understanding, but indeed you cannot unlearn what you have seen …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:32 PM
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...and don't be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:14 PM
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My god almighty, first of all: change your flair. Then learn some basics like a difference between "negotiating desire" vs "making yourself more desirable". And then stop being such a b**tch, you even have a mindset of one, like beliving in just being born princess and focusing on what "women" (not men) deserve. "l did everything but zero results" Evil, primordial curse casted upon your pitiful existence preventing you from getting ANY results. Already pretty known among fat people "I've tried e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:19 PM
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What's the problem? Women love being mistreated as long he's attractive. Jokes aside, your presumptions that a redpiller would treat his woman badly is totally out of your ass. She might not get from him what she desired (eg. marriage), but that's not the same. She also has 2 legs, she can just walk away after first red flag, which happens 5 seconds into relationship, "red" in "redpill" comes from "red flag" btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:46 PM
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My bad for not being precise, I meant using Tinder dates only to fill your own belly. Turns out in the land of broken equilibrium and loosen rules being selfish is the winning strategy (usually) as women have shown. By playing nice you're not fixing society, you're just the sucker suffering consequences from misaligned society. BTW redpill-following men are just a droplet in the ocean, can't change much either way, thus "enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:36 PM
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No irony here, TRP was individual-focused, sometimes (not always) at the expense of the collective. And that's great, your average Joe has some set of rules and guidlines created to some way match his best interest. That's a nice change after being attacked by the collective/establishment in western countries. RP influencers/coaches encourage straight up and up giving young women baggage, especially after these relationships inevitably ends. ...cool, tell then women to not end those relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:28 PM
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Just curious: how many times have you criticised "dinner dates" (low social impact) or brutal divorce schemes and parental isolation (high social impact)? This is not "whataboutism", TRP's egoism just nicely fit in the current brutal intersexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 08:17 PM
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Aaand I see absolutely no reason why this term should apply only to humans, where other -gamy are normaly used for describing behaviours in animal kingdom (I think it's called mating systems). This is 100% arbitrary, unless I am missing something. Hypergamy is a natural part of sexual selection and originated from tremendous imbalance of costs/risks of passing 50% of your genes between sexes. This causes great supply/demand imbalanse and likely even caused sexual dymorphism in case of dangerous …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:37 PM
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"Trading up" your spouse is not "a version of hypergamy". This is very misleading at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:53 PM
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Yes, I undertand it better than you. Hypergamy is not human-only phenomen. Do you know why even women are hypergamous? What you described is only how it can manifest in human. Do you really thing I used "meme" as "evidence"? If so, I think it's better to stop here. a young man is most attractive to a young woman (whom is most desirable). That is a very large factor to whom is high in SMV. Now it's better. Yes, that's a heavy factor. No, it's not the only one heavy factor or the most important on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:48 PM
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Get any evo psych book instead of "come on"-ing. You also don't know what "hypergamy" is. Male hypergamy is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:26 PM
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If you cannot understand my arguments it might sound like this. Can't be helped. Same goes to randos stuff people say here, ask them, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:24 PM
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The definition of hypergamy relates to either 1) socioeconomic status 2) partner mate value in academia. Yes, and those "definitions" are terrible, do you even understand the core source of female hipergamy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TcLxlkc2pA Do you know this meme video? My point is, why male is wooing here and building the nest and female is picky and NOT the other way around? If you understand that, you almost understand hypergamy. Most men find 18-22 y/o's most attractive. How can 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:09 PM
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Every Red Pill guy knows that men also have a version of hypergamy, Stop embarasing TRP please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:10 AM
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Oh no, ""science"" [2][1][3][7] 1) This is complete trash, men are NOT hypergamous and "better" being "better" than "good" is not the definition of hypergamy, that's pretty basic, you've failed at definition anyway, yet you want to correct others. 2) 'Women prefer much older men'' Who said that? ''Men become most sexually desirable to young women at around 35'' Incorrect again, that's more or less peak SMV year for your average man, not peak attractiveness in the eyes of "young woman", without e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:09 AM
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This smells like another blackpill cope post. I do agree that ultimately you're limited by your genetic roll, period. But if you fix your all deficiencies, you will land in above average almost for sure. Just check that famous "there are no ugly people only poor people". You can say that all those celebrities already had good baseline, but vast majority of people have that baseline somewhere. Incel community had to coin term "truecel" for people so unlucky on genetic lottery, that pouring money/…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:12 AM
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Can we get with this weird ass logic somewhere else? For example, a guy bought old "premium" car from faulty series, so even cheaper than usually and now cries on the internet that it started breaking every month and repairs are expensive AF. next time buy better lol secretly means "buy my own used car"?. Do you now understand how inane is that "logic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:57 PM
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All I wanted to say is that OP picked really good flair for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:43 PM
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I don't care about TikTok redpill, probably is as good as TikTok "entertainment"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:49 PM
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I don't know what are your expectations. You need to have some advantages and some opportunities to put your advantages into play. Both usually will require some (or way more than some) work. Sorry, if you're passive, not doing ANYTHING to improve your changes and your most remarkable quality is "being short" then fat single mothers are your league. Unfortunately current market is not too nice for "0 effort 0 talent" men... well, it was never nice, but now is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:13 PM
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It is not tied to your SMV, some really extravert and outgoing men have it naturally, but most would need to work hard for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:49 AM
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Math doesn't add up if they have 3 holes and poor Chad has only one meat rod /s I know that famous carrousel exists, but it is not that extreme + not every women + have you ever heard about settling down? Why are you even worring about carrousel riders at your age, this bracket is out of your reach unless you have some exceptional qualities? Real answer is that you're probably just trolling on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:40 AM
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Sorry, but first of all, you're terrible at math. Game indeed has changed, but still needs to obey math and economy laws. For your average Becky to have 100 models "in her pocket" sex ratio needs to be like 1:5000 or so. There is "only" 5% more men than women, no more. IRL she still needs to pick somebody from this 10 before other woman will do this. If you're 50, just aim for ~36 yo that was never on OLD, shouldn't be that hard, or just pick one childless of those delusional "100 models in my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:22 AM
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Another cope "life is Tinder" post. There is existing A+ tier solution for average man to land a lot of women: having a vast, active social circles with a lot of women inside. But for most younger people it is easier said than done. Creating it would require a lot of work, effort, time and leaving that famous comfort zone. Ayy, that's realy bad. But fortunately for you, you can just rationalise that life is Tinder and it won't work anyway! Yay, now you're smart for not wasting effort on somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:33 AM
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Which part is the problem 🤔 Reddit users. No need to thank me for stating the obvious, my job is done here <flies away>.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:27 AM
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Tell them to talk to some people here that believe "a redpiller" is a sad loser hating women. Anyway, word they wanted to use is "player", but zoomers forgot it exists. Why some women "hate" players? Because they have something women desire (a HVM), but they don't want to give it to them (no commitment ladies, sorry). So resentment is growing, same with incels looking at all those women "holding sex a hostage". But the title barely matches post body, so let me explain in oversimplified way why w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:45 PM
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There is ONLY one correct sentence there and this is the one bolded. People with sorted out life and world views are the minority. The rest is: noobs, autists, kids, work-in-progress people and LARPers... like you OP. "I spend several years in red pill." Mate, what you have written is an equivalent of "I've spent several years body building and I cannot bench press my own body weight once". Everything else land between "misleading" to "pure lie" category. Maybe somebody will go and correct you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:48 PM
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You took existing property or life, indeed there is tremendous imbalance of investment in early reproduction between men and women, and blew it out of proportions. and to grow a whole baby is pretty much the max limit of energy expenditure that is any more energy expended and she would die, Pregnancy is a big strain and pre-modern health technology advancements was a serious health/life threat but... come on, this is typical stupid female rethoric that giving a birth is the most hard and heroic …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:40 PM
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I know this problem, I think I should create my own giga-nerd notes to be used to productively argue on the internet. Your example sounds indeed a bit weird, but can't say much without really digging into source material, and I don't have that much free time nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:57 PM
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that study ...like there was just one study from one western country lol, although that one from Pew Research Center is likely the most famous recently. But without any specific info what do you expect? I will just reply that your comment is full of errors, therefore "misleading" at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:26 PM
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I think in Europe islam will just take over, men will switch to "stfu woman" mode again and some kind of order will be restored untill new society evolves/devolves into something else. But I am talking about rather distant future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:59 PM
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Exactly, rate of singles in society and fertility rate tell different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:55 PM
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For me those are like tastes, sweet or salty. Both are fine and a matter of preference. But if I had to choose, I would pick A. Why? A man likes to impres and be admired, and it is way easier to make excited somebody inexperienced (and look cool in her eyes).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:13 PM
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Does your old, fat wife count? If so, this is rather common. If not, then IMO it is rather rare in new generations, which is risk averse and low libido due to lower testosterone levels - so pressure to have any sex is far lesser. Having sex with somebody outside relationship material-zone? Sure. But having sex with somebody you do not even like or are not attracted to? Why? Also, why do they sleep with women they aren’t attracted to? How do men not get turned off by a woman they find sexually un…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:48 PM
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A husband who makes 200k and cheats on her once or twice during their life together OR A husband that makes 40k and never cheats. 200k guy. Cheating and coming back will give her emotional drama most women crave and difference in earnings is huge here. Is a 3 in looks but has boat and ocean front condo OR is a 10 in looks and lives with his parents. If both of you are around college age, living with parents is the norm, so pick literal 10. If she's close to being 30 (or older), then consider oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:20 AM
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Sell me some of your free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:36 AM
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And cult leader of chess is Carlsen or Elizabeth Harmon, because this is the only name non-chess people can mention from memory. And cult leader of pop music is Taylor Swift.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:25 AM
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I agree with almost everything you have written, but this especially: Men who take the Red Pill are not interested in debating or defending their experiences to those who disagree with them So I do not debate here, because overall subject matter knowledge is too low. I do not engage with people's delusions, because this is a waste of time. I just spread the word, answer some sane and serious questions, share my opinions. Why? Because why tf not? I am a part of internet forums now for over 15 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:57 AM
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most obvious styles of makeup are the biggest turn-off, I wouldn't call a display of low skill and/or bad taste "the biggest turn-off".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:30 PM
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Or to be more precise: look almost like you don't have one. Same point apply to plastic surgeries, they are supposed to mimic high rolls on genetic lottery, not to be something immediately looking as unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:14 PM
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https://www.glamour.com/story/secrets-of-no-makeup-makeup Lips are too glossy to be natural, but she's looking really normal. Correcting/hiding imperfections != painting your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:41 AM
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Since you failed to do your exercise (that would answer some of your questions), let me 'fail' to answer this and future questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:24 AM
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That's not very pill-related, so thread might be deleted, but... 1) why do you think that the formal definition of something doesn’t matter Formally Russia has never attacked anyone first - and now we're talking about state-level information, not some notes from internet pages. Turns out that's not true and things linked with "political" are usually linked to (varied) level of propaganda - same goes for feminism. 2) what is the wiki definition and how is it fundamentally wrong about it? (...)to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:56 AM
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I've never met a woman significantly smarter than me, so to meet one and then starting dating her would feel weird. Overall likely I would be uncomfortable at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:32 AM
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where are you guys getting your definitions of feminism/feminists? ? I don't need to know formal definition of X to know, what X is (and what X is about). Heck, I've checked now wiki's definition, and of course, it's fundamentally wrong. I define feminism as political movement fighting for more rights, options, priviliges, power for women. Simple and precise enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:17 AM
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No, that pressure and reminders are helpful for majority of women. Unfortunately for you, you just overreacted, normally it's more like "dont forget to:" you marry between 25-29. than "settle down as soon as you're no longer a teenager".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:44 AM
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Well... Yes. But he is more normal (and human like) than for example Zuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:22 PM
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Look at Jeff Bezos. He's a multi-billionaire, and he's not engaged to some 21-year-old OnlyFans model; xDD Who wants to be engaged to a e-whore?! he's engaged to a 54-year-old woman who had a very successful career even before they met. Elon's 2nd wife was 25 (14 years younger) when he remarried. We can haggle back and forth with examples, although I do not follow celebrities and you don't know local people I know with younger wifes. But yes, IMO men care about social-economic status (I do) for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:05 PM
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Not purely RP, but for sure really good and really on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:07 PM
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Whatever, he's one of the golden standards of what is (and what's not) RP. BTW he's married for close to 30 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:06 PM
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Men, by nature are more shallow. Wall exists because a pool of what traits men value is way more shallow vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:03 PM
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Just watch video(s) from this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veHjcEzGc_w
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:38 AM
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I've never followed his content, but as far as I know he failed to live up to his own preached standards, and this post sounds like a fantasy created by some hipercontrolling "alfa"-wannabe male. "Buyers" of content: beware. Think of what is even realistic, and, on top of that, even sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:57 PM
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If I say "Americans should be less fat" how much I am trying to change the world? How much effort I am putting in this? BTW I am not even on the same continent. Words are cheap and usually are not linked with any action nor any change. Analysing the issue is not even close to "trying to change X".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:53 PM
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"Redpill" is knowledge, MGTOW is a "life strategy". Is MGTOW a good way for you? As always: it depends. Poster boy of this "movement" is a man after a bad divorce vowing to not remarry. That case is pretty safe if you already have(had?) your own children and family. For somebody never in any serious relationship I would think twice before giving up the "default way". If RPers feel that women are so impossible to please, But I am not impossible to please, as long as I am pleased it's fine :))) , …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:40 PM
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why you'd already know how having a period feels :) Cool, we're halfway there. Now you need to get that I know it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:07 PM
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I can point finger to videos, blog post, TRP top posts and so on, but that would require some time and effort. So instead: check my flair. Then check your flair. Who may know more about redpill? Or I can just flip the script and "correct" you how having a period feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:42 PM
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Redpill is not prude nor it restricts female sexuality. It tells men to escalate and don't wait for sex. I am not here to educate you, there is enough material on the internet, so I will oversimplify and be brief. There is no "dramatic" difference, but differences are significant and fundamental. TRP is individual-oriented, tradcons are society-oriented. That's why TRP is HEAVLY anti-mariage in current climate, because cost-reward ratio is terrible, but tradcons are pro-marriage, because this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:26 PM
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If you have spent time in that subculture they seem to advocate raising girls in a very tradcon manner and what to me seems incredibly sex negative. So, step by step: 1) TRP is not tradcon 2) manosphere is not tradcon, although is more traditional and right wing leaning than the true mainstream for sure 3) western tradcons are not "incredibile sex negative", unless we're talking about some religious groups Why is the red pill so anti sex work and sex negative Is not and... is not. (...)and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:46 PM
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Men were taught that women always want to have children and get married. That is no longer the case. They have called our bluff. They are 100% willing to die single and childless. Pure nonsense. "Our bluff"? What "bluff"? Why do you think terms like "commitment-phobic" were coined? Or "baby rabies"? It is time to go back to the basics, if you're not aware that women chase commitment more (and why). Women decide to be single and childless if their hipergamy is not satiated. This won't make them h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:00 AM
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Hypergamy is just an over complicated term that basically states that everyone wants to get the best mate possible. ...And you failed. "Better is better than good" is not the definition of hipergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:26 PM
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Instead of using buzzwords blame biology. Well, you will see there 'men bad' probably too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:30 AM
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Who even upvotes this cope post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:50 AM
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So, woman from your example 1) Was in LTR (didn't work out well) 2) Now is in another LTR (way happier) Our question was about warnings "don't play the field too long". Good luck starting a family at the age of 44 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:30 PM
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Because, again, by the rule of thumb this is a better option for your average woman. You don't have guarantees in life, sorry. So they pressure her to pick option that works better for more women than not, especially when she has still posiibility to do so. And why it works better than "just be single most of my life" is a subject for another post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:23 PM
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(if anything there seems to be an indication that they fair worse then their respective female counterparts). Indeed. And mind you this is in spite of the fact that men “age like fine wine” Can age like a fine wine (it is not granted). Despite all these facts women are consistently being threatened with “dying alone” and fear mongered over it. I really don’t get it. And I’m not saying this to say that it’s good to never marry or have children, I honestly believe more people are happier doing tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:04 PM
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But the evo psych would at best be decent guesses as a basis for some trial and error experimentation. You cannot reproduce most of the trends, evolutionary pressures or behaviours. But you have other tools: plenty of observations and deductive, inductive, abductive reasoning. That's why this is a soft science, but it is still good enough - unless you really don't have any idea what you're doing It is better to ask questions about specific populations than 'all men and women'. ...like here. Skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:27 PM
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I was not promiscuous when I was even able to do so - most men cannot even affort to have this choice. And where do you even see a hypocrisy there? I can "outmeme" you and say "most men are soo hypocritical, they want to put dick inside others, but not take one inside themselves, smh".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:52 PM
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"if you truly view these women so lowly" this post is full of exaggerations like this. "Street woman" is just not worth serious time/money/emontional investments, and not some kind of "lower being". You can still have fun time with them, that includes sex, so this benefits men. Men can also have dual-mating strategy, when they categorise women into higher commitment group and "free shots". Women for example accept proposition of "dinner dates" and other paid entertainment from men they're not re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:44 PM
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1) Your ignorance and delusions about this community are not TRP's problem. 2) You not taking any advice from any redpill-adjacent community is not a TRP's problem. Feel free to do what you want, noone should care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:24 PM
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Ha ha. Delusional women. Women are already not doing that there, but some of them decided to make it "official" to fight non-existing patriarchy. They will make exception for Changs, and for others it changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:27 PM
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Anything can work with honest communication. For your own good, don't tell this story to any potential partner. What you are describing is being deceitful. If you don’t see the relationship going anywhere Piece of metal is not a relationship, don't be silly and let him be dumb as well once.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:30 PM
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Heh, now a guy you might be with should buy an expensive ring to somebody he would never want to be in a relationship with and there will be no hard feelings whatsoever either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:11 PM
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Any ideas on what is happening to men or what may happen? Go to Bitchute and search for "The Traditionalism Cycle", TFM explained this pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:19 AM
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I can't cover the biological aspects of what women find attractive SOME biological aspects. Even if you can't control majority of factors, you still have control over pretty significant part. ...and there are other factors, which make you attractive outside how you look like. I'm a 4 right now, but I can only get to about a 6 or 7 in attractiveness because I will always lack those two factors First reasonable sentence I've read from your posts. But if you believe in lookism (and you should), loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:24 PM
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Oh wow, another "Why work, if I won't be a multimilionare, it's better to stay neet" blackpilled post. That's just cope to shield you from your laziness, resistance to change and putting effort. Poor guy, can't do shit, because there is a top 0.05% male Chad-nemesis ready to poach any 6/10 Becky from him. So, if women constantly trade up or happily cheat(...) I've read almost identical posts inside women forums "why have relationship if he's going to cheat me with younger women?". At least her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:31 AM
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...and there is barely any corelation between "what is and isn't attractive and to what degree" vs "why people are single and having less sex". ..unless you want to build a strawman that now it's only looks and height and therefore women are not interested in dating and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:29 PM
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Rich people are not my social group, but day stock traders I "knew" usually had younger asian wifes (despide being swiss/german). I am not sure why, but I have my suspisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:24 PM
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You're lying... or you're autistic and that's how you got rich. Then look at your weathly peers, they likely know how to use money to attract women. Big numbers in crypto "investments" don't attract women well, but a lifestyle that requires more than minimum amount of money: good place to live, good car, good clothing and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:51 AM
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No, you just have no idea what you are talking about, so you should think over everything again. Then came social media and dating apps and everything got reset. Yes, we even no longer reproduce through sex /s LMS still stands, I would even add "power" into mix, unless it counts as a part of "status". I've seen people saying, that only looks matter, because "life is Tinder", but this is another level of, what you called, "a fantasy land".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:45 AM
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No, to my cat. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:36 PM
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Why big muscles are attractive, if forklift can lift more anyway? Why big muscles are attractive, if gun is better for defence anyway? Even if we live currently in a different way, it doesn't matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:34 PM
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Sorry, I am not in the mood spending my free time correcting your inane statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:10 PM
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To touch the grass and discover maybe facts that real source of food is not a supermarket, and real source of heat is not heater in your appartment and what men do, so we have comfort of civilisation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:04 PM
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"Just be hot enough so you don't need any game" is not the best answer for that question, OP did way better job describing women's game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:17 PM
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Yes. And this changes nothing regarding what I've written here: Women, as a group, need from men 1) protection 2) provision 3) parental investment. Protection in western societies is outsourced pretty good to state. Childless women in economy that usually doesn't require physical strenght do well enough to sustain themselves. So women used to depend more on the tribe or men from family than from the state, now state is alone "good enough", so women have fewer reasons to pairbond with individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:13 PM
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Who builds walls of a house to shelter you from wind? Who maintain power lines or water/gass pipelines to give you heat? Who works as soldiers/rangers/sheriffs? Blue-collar men with no-bullshit jobs. Years ago, who built cottage for a family? Who built a fence to protect crops from animals? If they're wolfs in the wood, who is going to hunt them? Seriously, I can go on and on. Right now this is mostly outsourced from your closest community to the state, but this work still exists and needs to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:21 PM
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Start from doing bushcraft as a hobby, so you will stop asking stupid questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:47 PM
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Are you serious? How do you even can have better data with this big sample size, without observer effect and real decisions, not "please fill this questionare", than from big dating app? I agree that "what a stupid talking point it is.", but I've never seen those claims before, only in post above. We didn't even have "swipes" there. Here is original article, even with female to male messages distribution: https://archive.ph/ZJymw
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:26 PM
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This data is indeed misinterpreted, but "one study" is misleading - real world hard data beats any "one study", even if this is flawed by context, sexes ratio and so on. I don't understand your other points though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:55 AM
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Correction: I remember those numbers and that was not a 30%, but a range, 10-30% (depending of testing facility).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:47 AM
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Fact, that you're fine right now cannot rewrite biology and hundreds of thousands years of evolution. From whom? Rather "from what?". Elements, environment, wild animals... and then from other people. Men evolved to be useful, because they needed to pull their own weight in reproduction process, women didn't + being regurarly pregnant and delivering for mamals' standard premature babies was not helping in being self-sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:46 AM
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They're not competing for 20 yo, because it's too rare, but for someone even 15 years younger? I've seen mariages like this. She was young enough, he had money. So a man her age interested in possibility of dating someone same age has 1 less person to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:26 PM
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Sure, I can casually date young, attractive sexworker, I would just put 2 condoms on my PP and we're fine and dandy. ...because OF COURSE you're not talking about anything serious, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:52 PM
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1) From the very beginning during reproduction years you have more males, check age pyramid (eg from my country). So let's say for one age bracket we have 210k men and 200k women. 50% of women gets taken, so we have 110k men and 100k women. 11 to 10 at the start, but that's not all. 2) For women aged 18-36 we have 18-50 years old males competing for their attention. Those numbers are of course taken arbitrary, but represent reproduction age for both sexes. 3) Women play the field and share top m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:46 PM
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Women, as a group, need from men 1) protection 2) provision 3) parental investment. Protection in western societies is outsourced pretty good to state. Childless women in economy that usually doesn't require physical strenght do well enough to sustain themselves. Ok, so they don't need men, but women might want men. My theory is that there are not enough attractive guys to go around. Objectively speaking, at least in my country, there are more attractive guys than ever. Unfortunately, "attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:50 AM
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Clarification: SOME of manosphere dudes. They're mad, because they're jellous. They're mad, because that's "not fair", women have it all "for free", and they have close to nothing and need to work for it - and return of investment rate of your work + needed amount seems absurd as well. And they're mad, because women accidently pour gasoline into the fire by speaking about their own dating woes or giving advices/support in completely ignorant way. Think about talking to somebody struggling with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:58 PM
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Overall you're right, but all is still minimising risk, not eliminating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:22 PM
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Who hurt you? Literally "men bad - the post".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:13 AM
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Take PewDiePie for instance. His wife Marzia went for him when he was completely broke with barely a penny to his name. That shows that she went for him for who he was and not for money. What a bluepilled take. A young girl went for attractive, charismatic man around her age with good prospects. Only missing important checkbox is that, afaik, his height is below average for swedish standards. His success overblew, so all is fine and dandy in this story. They married when she was 27, what if at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:18 PM
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Yes. ...that would be a bit awkward though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:04 PM
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I mean... overall I do agree with that, but where PPD convolute simple things? This is a place for competent enough pill-adjacent discussions, if you want simple prescriptions for your(or not) issues, there are better places to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:08 PM
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I fail to see your point. I mean - yes, being attractive is beneficial, everyone knows that, more discussion is about how much you can get away with being average or unatractive. But where even PPD overcomplicate stuff? What do you expect? "Just be more attractive bro"? This is insult-tier "advice". Can't afford your own place? Just be richer broo~ The only area where instructions are not plain and simple (simple, but unfortunately not easy to follow) is organicaly creating social circles with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:49 PM
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No. Men can compensate being old (and even being less visibly attractive) by having other attractive qualities. Women's attractivenes on the dating markes is mostly fertility/youthness/looking attractive and healthy, and those are in their case heavly coupled with age. Low body count? Same - linked with age to some degree. Men are more "shallow" in preferences, so no other viable methods of making up for higher age - hence the wall. A man of course needs to compensate his age, if he's willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 08:31 PM
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This, traditionally (and nowadays too) so called "warm approach" works best. Cold approach was a PUA's domain, has success rate (by success I mean getting contact number/ID and then a reply) around 5% IRL you can exercise more of your advantages than "looking good in pictures", you will get bonus points for having balls to do so, since it is pretty rare nowadays. You will see her real self too, not photos from 5 years and 10 kg ago. Biggest drawback (excluding leaving your comfort zone) is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:49 PM
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And from when? Everything older than 5 years is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:00 PM
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I want to (seriously) date fully functioning adult. Not having your own place is fine, not being able to support yourself financially at all, without direct prospects of improvement (eg broke student not yet in industry) is less fine. Debt for consumerism is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:31 PM
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Today on PPD: Fellow man wants to revolutionise psychology/biology, because he has no idea what he's talking about. Next week: need of belonging is not a need, you won't die when you're lonely, there, I solved loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:36 AM
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And real women can't compete with anime catgirls. When somebody can be deluded enough into escapism - it's tough to compete with pure fantasy, this applies to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:25 PM
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Slut = visible ankle and/or no niqab outside. ...because if OP can troll, I want to troll too :(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:13 PM
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Learn the difference between negotiating and creating attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 PM
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Who typically joins the manosphere? It’s a guy in his teens who tried to initiate something with girls but failed repeatedly. [citation needed] Overall you're right, it has almost an exclusivity in explaining and potentialy solving problems modern men face. I have yet to see comprehensive, coherent and working guide to getting laid that is not redpill or redpill-adjacent. I’d like to recommend two things to those of you who found my idea interesting. Read “Radicalizing the Romanceless” and watch…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:36 PM
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I do believe that single 18-27 yo women might be indeed happier than coupled counterparts. It is really, really hard to accurately measure it though. But single, childless women around middle age or older? Suuuureee, and they're eating opioids like candies because they're soo happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:57 AM
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Even most blue bluepillers say "don't forget to shower", so decent hygene IMO is the most basic minimum and common ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:55 PM
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Nothing comes close (for me) to having a pet animal and treating it as your own child, including all the language connected to it. That's a f**king york, not your son you psycho. Horse girl are at 2nd place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:13 PM
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Noone from redpill sphere I know cares about it, ask blackpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:53 PM
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There is a glaring problem, but with your understanding of this simple concept. Contrary to the red pill theory, older men serious about dating cannot afford to ignore women their age especially if they're average. That's why you worked to not be average, so you can leverage your position by competing over younger women, right? You cannot pick random sentences and facts from TRP theory and then claim about holes in it. And ruins the fantasy of a "post wall" woman alone with her cats meanwhile th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:22 PM
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Not exactly 'sexy', but sometimes I feel good just after grooming myself and checking difference in a mirror. But I am slightly narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:06 PM
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Good to hear, otherwise your rank in the cult might be lowered /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:27 PM
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This stopped being about equality a long time ago. What a bluepilled take. It was NEVER about equality, even when effective direction of proposed changes overlaped with some arbitrary equality chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:08 PM
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Literal incelposting, gj OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:01 AM
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Mate, just stop and ask him for contact and save that hoe gem yourself, show them how it's done!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:14 PM
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Im not murrican. But USA can rest easy from different reason - immigration. Soo many people know english, american culture and consider living there. For example current China, in the long term, don't have this luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:12 PM
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Read more than title itself, OP was of course talking about the society of "default country" on reddit. Look how far portugese empire shunk, country is nowhere near to being relevant in bigger scale geopolitics. Brittish empire? Used to be around 23% of global population, now it's less than 1%, at least it something more than "just another country". That's a boring post-apo, but borderline postapocaliptic anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:59 PM
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Fertility rates go down and down and down, sometimes being around 50% of sustainability level. You can't have society without population. Economy with retirements systems, health care and so on is not ready for that to say the least and just prays on borderline magic solution in form of great automatisaiton. Even if shit won't hit the fan here, population will still wither down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:39 PM
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From abrahamic trio of very high fertility rate consisting Amish, radical Jews and traditional Muslims, the last group is most wide spread right now I think and most up-to-date with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:30 PM
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You know, you both can be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:23 PM
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Humanity survived SPQR collapse, so it will be fine. Western societies might be less fine, although some of them is already adapting other sustainable system: traditional muslim society. Problem is that this will ruin economy (and their relevancy) anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:22 PM
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One thing I found interesting when looking at the career trajectory of many prominent red pill figures is how many end going down the path of religious fundamentalism or alt right politics. I can think of several red pill figures who fit this profile - Rooshv, Sneako, Andrew Tate, Hearsite etc, so I think it's interesting phenomenon to examine. Rollo wrote a book "Religion", where he explores this phenomenon. The obvious answer is that they are grifters just following what's popular at the momen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:11 PM
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That's just his opinion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:33 PM
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I think it depends on the culture/region/country, but in many cases getting consistent approaches from men, for a woman, is like getting consistent dates in online dating for men. Uncommon at best. You need to be in specific range of hot: pretty enough for a guy to force himself to try, but not really hot, that woman wouldn't be interested in him anyway, right? + in the right place + right time. Welcome to today's dating market; "it's not what I've expected" not only for men and in western world…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:05 PM
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First of all: "liberal vs conservative" is pure murrican's point of view, they measure reality by eagles per football fields. Secondly: excluding South Korea, it mostly shows women slowly going into "delusional lunatic" territory. Solutions might be pretty simple, like stripping out of voting rights (and any position of power) anybody that fails simple sanity check like "what is a woman" question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:24 AM
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Nothing - at least when it comes to a help targeting women. I help people from time to time, if this doesn't cost me too much trouble/effort, but I do not differentiate them by sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:42 PM
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"nigcel" might be my 2nd fav "x-cel", right after a "cutecel". I've read there cool post where OP blames redpill internet talking heads for "forcing" him to have casual sex, which he did not enjoy, but eventually he mustered all his courage and clicked "unsubscribe", then closed browser tab and went for celibacy for half of a year, feeling way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:23 PM
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Have you even seen one of those "alpha debunks" deeper than the title itself? Because I have, more than once. Go check them out and tell me how "alpha male is not the big meanie bully, it's more complicated"; "alpha male in terms of small wolf packs is incorrect, because they're just founders of this family, they didn't climb through pecking order" contradicts TRP in ANY way? Well, you probably can't, because you don't understand redpill at all anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:07 AM
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To debunk an information you need to understand that information. As far as I remember - of course they failed to do so, and they just threw random scientific paper against created strawman. Great success indeed. Understanding reality is not a Yu-Gi-Oh game that whoever plays stronger card ("stronger" study is from more prestigious magazine) wins. You have freaking published papers pointing to correlation between vacination and autism (just ignore 100x more studies debunking this bs). You cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:49 PM
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Yes, you can also "unlearn" relativistics and go back to Newton's laws lol. There is only one way, and that way is forward. You can know more, and "more" will give you broader/different perspective, but you cannot unlearn certain information at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:29 PM
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I personally am more leaning towards the exredpill community because they have scientifically thoroughly debunked common redpill beliefs? I will reply to this 2/10 bait post, because I always wanted to write it: There is no such thing as an "exredpill". By the sheer definition of what "redpill" is. Life doesn't work that way. Image meeting other adult and hearing something like "I was wrong about Santa Claus. I thought Santa doesn't exist and I got worse presents than other kids because my famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:10 PM
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Defeat against what? Human nature? That's a big part of the problem and it's unfixable. For rules of the game that are even changeable, what's is easier? 1) Going to a different place or even starting your own community (like amishes or muslim no-go zone) 2) fighting whole society that doesn't want to change? You cannot fight so called "structural forces" with semi-big online community, don't be silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:56 PM
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TRP is more "defeatists" than people believing in biological determinism with their meme slogan "cope" for any incentive to try harder. Why? Because they don't do what OP wants them to do. Makes perfect sense. That's why I think the RP is unsustainable and is why I left it years ago. You were never redpilled at the first place if you failed to understand why this is not "save the world" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:18 PM
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Do you say something similar to people in their 50s or older? "Your body is not deteriorating by growing old, you just evolve into something different!" Society needs its population, otherwise it does not exists. Period. By reading woes here (or anywhere else) you can see how hard is to find somebody 1) you want to have offspring with 2) that want to have offspring with you. AND THAT IS JUST A BEGINNING, a future family needs its own place, that cost a lot of money, money that young pair doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:12 PM
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TBH I barely know her, I watched from strictly RP channels (at least to some degree) Greg Adams, Richard "TacticalSoap" Cooper, Rollo, Kevin Samuels, Michael Sartain, yet my golden standard is what TRP subreddit clarified. I gave minimal attention to people like Tate and others from fresh generation, because what's the point? I already know that stuff. Ask those people to defend their extreme views like "no SMV after 25", that's their opinion and not what community thinks. Don't forget: popular …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:30 PM
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Almost all of my single friends (including me) are fully functional adults. Hikikomori existed 20 years before internet redpill manosphere. You don't need to even use internet to get tired of job market and sexual market rat races and decide to just... give up. Would men just really become NEETs once you take women off the table? Some of them for sure work that way, but unfortunately I have no way to estimate how many people like this are (%-wise) and how much do they care. Are women the primary…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:36 PM
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So where does all this ideology come from that women after 25 have no value No mate, that's your opinion(?) and for me seems pretty extreme, care to defend it? Things like that are unmesureable, but this is (in)famous Rollo's chart with IMO pretty accurate estimation: https://i0.wp.com/therationalmale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/smv_curve1.jpg?ssl=1
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:08 PM
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I think your assumption is based of possibility of a true red pill man wanting marriage, not probability /s There is one mantra "don't get married", because in the western world risk/reward ratio here is terrible. Of course noone is going to stop you, but you have been warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:58 PM
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t's really odd that you can't give any concrete examples of what red pill means. I gave two? In the most broad sense of this fraze it means seeing through lies of the system. In the western world most common redpilling is... figuring out that santa claus does not exist, even if movies, adults around, ads and so on "claims" otherwise. But in the context of intersexual dynamics I've already answered that. can easily go find 100 examples of someone claiming to be RP that says something that goes ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:53 PM
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Aw shit, that was almost too much for me to willingly read. Science pilled indeed. Some statements inside that paper are IMO heavly debatable though - still I agree with vast majority of them. No matter how they want to present it (or veil it), men are most attracted to women in their prime (sexual market) age. I take back the vehemence of my statement and rather state that there is a discrepance between what men state, what men do on online dating platforms where goal of contact is unclear, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:39 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, most men also want a partner around their age I don't think so, almost every adult man I know wanted somebody younger. Here you have a hard data about physical attractiveness. What is your source of that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:05 PM
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No mate, I think you're talking out of your ass. I claim that TRP agrees with evo psych, you claimed otherwise YET failed to provide any example from anyone notable from this community. To make things more precise, I talk about "facts", not "strategies", because eg. from genes' perspective you should have as many successful offspring as possible. That's why I'm asking for specifics which have been shocking hard to get. Specifics of what? TRP agreeing with evopsych? IDK, go to that quarantined su…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:46 PM
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Practically speaking, I think the way the term "redpilled" is used boils down to "not feminist." And this is wrong, you can, for example, get bluepilled AF antifeminist, many very conservative men marrying somebody at the age of 18-19, and living so far successfuly in their expectations bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:10 AM
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From TRP: "The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. " Definition you have quoted is definitely good, just not very concise. IMO it can be even called "applied evolutionary psychology in the context of intersexual dynamics". I've spent years studying the science of evolution, mating, etc and what I've learned often goes against what I hear RP proponents say,(...) Any specific examples? Because at least one counterparty here is wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:01 AM
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I would like to answer thoroughly, but I am tired of disingenuous questions. In TRP land all men are good No. Apparently, women cannot even get killed without being slandered by the manosphere. No. But pretending that there are no millions of toxic , psychopathic, lying , abusive men is outright disingenuous. People don't pretend that. NEXT!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:57 PM
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Years ago I used to browse /pol/ 30 min/week or so, from time to time I was seeing posts like "You said X, but now you say Y, are you schizophrenic?" and answer to that was "/pol/ is not one person". This case is identical: online redpill community is not a one person. Simultaneously, they denigrate women who date men exclusively for their appearance and money. Because some people there are still bluepilled in that regard. You get loved for what you provide and you get desired for your attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:51 AM
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I am not sure what to tell you, I've checked and I put that sentence into deepl and it got translated into my native language - turns out I wrote what I wanted to say(more or less), just in a messy way. Looks like you somehow cannot understand what I am writting, especially considering this: But, also, again, isn't this a concession? The Destiny situation does not prove it? One more time: it does prove it of course, but alone, it isolation, would be not enough to prove anything. It is just one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:04 PM
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This always confused me because when I think of a woman as being masculine, or a man being feminine, the image that came to MY mind wasn't someone with only bad traits. Because that's the case... BUT, if you want to attract attractive, femine women, better be an attractive, masculine man yourself. And vice versa. One of the five points addresses that, I have no idea what's in the others, likely you understood something wrong. So I asked some Red Pillers/Manosphere members here why they always de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:38 PM
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As other comment stated: it comes from OKCupid studies and this is just pareto principle in action about "winners take all". On that website 20% of men were getting 80% of matches. There was another 80% there, where 80% of guys were rated below 3/5, which should right in the middle average score. Sometimes it's 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men. Those people are wrong, 100% of women are interested in top guys, just bottom 20% don't get the chance to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:16 PM
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See the Emdrive "disproving" conservation of momentum, for example. Why it wasn't dismissed as a not matching "single data point", but it was checked to turn on as (of course) false positive for "magic thrust force"? People in social science like to completely ignore so called anecdotal evidence. You don't prove something with a single data point How many black holes needed to be found to confirm that they're not just theoretical objects? a) 0 b) 1 c) 100 d) 1024. Choose carefully. So your concl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:33 PM
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Those hypotetical (redpill/physics) people with heavily impaired cognitive capabilities have their own issues, not linked at all with "adegdotal evidence". The point here is that you cannot take a single data point and generalize it to absurdity. Yes. But we're talking about single data point proving or disproving something; and that's how so called hard science works. My comment was just loosely addressing that. Social science is a soft science, and redpill is not a science at all - Rollo for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:25 AM
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For your own good, stop embarrassing yourself. BTW lighter objects are technically indeed subjected to smaller force, just google gravity formula if you forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:42 AM
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That's how for example math, or physics work. In social science unfortunately it is not so easy, but dismissing any "anegdotal evidence" is just stupid and not scientific at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:51 PM
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No, it does not, go back to watching Destiny. Sheer thought that Destiny might know ANYTHING better than old members of ANY community he's currently grifting on is just inane - yet somehow his fans "think" so (lol). Let him debate his mariage back into reality, if he's so smart. I will shamelessly copy-paste one comment from YT: "Destiny, why did your marriage fail?" Destiny: Not sure. There hasn't been any studies conducted yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:47 PM
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That's not true. Blackpill is rather "redpill gone wrong", but is way closer to the redpill than people living in romanticised fantasy world, so typical bluepillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:34 AM
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This is not exactly the 1 to 1 identical case as single mothers, but vast majority of issues and potential problems are the same here. TL:DR is "low tier option for you, usually not worth the hassle at all", but still I don't see them as the worst option. In what world average Joe with a kid is worse than a mentally unstable felon with sleeve tatoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:53 PM
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You can be 8/10 and have 0 experience. All you have to do to achive that as a man is to do... nothing. For your average woman, to give up her modus operandi of being passive and waiting for things to happen you need to look as a smoking hot deal in her eyes - maybe then she will be willing to actively chase you. Things change around threshold of 30, when clock is ticking, (some) women start panicking and decide to take some action themselves, then "above average" man can be poached from the mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:25 AM
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Yes, this is still a minority, but how did you "figure out" that this is NOT an actual problem?? According to a projection by Morgan Stanley, it is estimated that by 2030, 45% of women in their “prime working years” (ages 25 to 44) will likely be single and without children. This hurts both sexes and destroys already bad demography of the western word, have fun in the future, becase % of "forever childless" women will jump from ~15% in USA to 25? 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:04 AM
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Do you think you deserve any serious answer with your attitude and reading comprehension skills? I'm glad that you understand that indeed it is a religion. I used this example to bait insufferable "argument" "TRP is a form of cult". And I got disappointed it worked better than I've expected. If you orchestrate a deep scientific research of my post, a group of profesionals should be able to find out that nothing you claim was mentioned there. Anyway, have fun "discussing", im out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:56 PM
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Thank you for personally confirming my suspicions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:43 PM
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Another guy that knows better what TRP is(was?) about decided to lecture them after 2h of intensive research, because he's more knowledgable than the whole community. Very cool, now go to investor's forum telling them to invest in crypto and NFT or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:34 PM
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You don't need a pope to explain to you what a "mass" is, common priest is more than good enough. If you need a pope audience for christianity 101 questions, that's your problem, not a problem of this religion. Same with any other branch of human knowledge... At least be consistent and go to r/fitness and write stuff like "Are you Ronnie Coleman? Because I am sure if you're qualified to explain to me what's a bench press" there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:54 PM
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If you wanted to say "average anime is way more detached in expectations from reality than your standard bluepiller" then I agree 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:01 PM
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You people have problem with abstract thinking. First of all, my example shows how "X is about control" oversimplification is stupid and disingenuous, not if control over a subject is bad for that subject or not. Secondly, we have many forms of relations between people where one party has some control over the other, yet noone sane would say "X is about control". It depends of the type of employment, but your employer has way more control over you than you have in romantic relationship with your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:51 PM
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In the same way for example "raising children" is not just about control, even if you need to control them to some degree, otherwise they'd grow spoiled, so it is for their own good. Yet you cannot say "raising children is about controling them", this sounds stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:27 PM
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Funny, the truth is 100% opposite. Anime are products pandering to japanese omega males, where loser men acting in a weak and counterproductive way get a soft harem of extremaly attractive, young girls. Count how many isekais there are, where main character gets magically "saved" from his mundane reality. Shounen MC working his way by struggles to the top is only a small portion of the industry. Escapism and fantasies are direct opposition to the red pill by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:13 AM
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by putting responsibility for success on the man’s presentation rather than the woman’s choice. That's surprisingly insightful, but still redpill is not about control - more about leveraging your position in SMP/relationship, and this is not the same, having more control is just a part of bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:10 AM
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Based and redpilled. I used to think this subreddit is redpill-adjacent. Now it looks more and more like a dating discussion in TikTok comments, or any other place where people have very vague idea what are they talking about. That's sad and I will likely abandon this place, even if writting about evo psych stuff is one of my hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:05 AM
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MGTOW isn’t an option because the men that go their own way, the women don’t want them in the first place. Total BS. Friendly reminder that poster boy of MGTOW is a man after very "fun" divorce that decided to not get into close relationship with a woman ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:09 PM
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LOL. This is one of the stranger posts I've read in a while, which is technically still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:24 AM
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I've read "oldest teenager in the house" and this fits the best. Because yes, many times you can't reason with them, they're alergic to taking responsibility and don't want to tackle adults' problems (and so on). In many cases it's not that women are incapable of acting like fully fledged adults, they just don't want to. Same like generation of men older than me weren't just incapable of taking a share in home cleaning, they just did not want to. However I never see RP males rushing to provide t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:22 AM
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1) Check the flair 2) I've found TRP around 2015? 3) In this context, "redpilled" means seeing truth about human nature. It's just applied evolutionary psychology. 4) This is a weird question that has no sane answer. We're not sports club fans. 5) With accurate information you can take better decisions. I've forgot to put enough effort and consistency though. 6) It made me aware how much I screwed up in high school and about some painful limitations/rules in intersexual dynamics. Those are not p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:20 PM
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Hard redpill truth: you can't save people that don't want to be saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:07 AM
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Men fight in so-called "competence hierarchy". This is super multi-dimentional and context-dependend, but rivalisation is ingrained in male psyche. You win, you get more dominant role and you have more people listening to you, and that feels good, you get rewarded by your hormonal system. You get more female attention + attention from higher quality women and those women taking following role fits nicely into the whole scheme. We have also typical male fantasies like being a king, champion, hero…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:31 AM
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Pretty good question. For the context, this is mentioned to fill complementary role in leader vs supporter/follower dynamics. You need to perform and compete with others to be a winner, at least to some degree, otherwise your woman usually wouldn't want you. And it is really tiresome to have yet another powerstruggle in your own house, noone sane wants that. You need someone agreeable who trusts your judgments to avoid spending time on arguing/negotiating and "submissive" person fills this role …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:25 AM
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Based and... well, redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:44 AM
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10 years ago or so, during my uni days, our group got rather hard problem on the blackboard. Most of the people didn't manage to calculate any meaningful result, and the rest got different asnwers. Damn, linear algebra used to be working and precise, things has changed... Ok, noone is stupid enough to think that way, BUT this principle applies to other branches of knowledge/skills too, you don't need to be a real hard science. Redpill, by definition, is in the same place as it used to be. Sideba…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:13 AM
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It is a bit different, for example ALL people putting the work will succeed more than before. That's just a common sense, people trying properly and trying hard tend to do better than those not giving a fuck. Who's harmed, people outside the group losing to competition? Sorry, that's how this world operates. But still TRP solutions pushed to extreme are detrimental to the society as a whole. That's a valid point, yet still you cannot really blame TRP for being reactive and focused on an individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:40 PM
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If you are trying to have a meaningul relationship with a woman, like a relationship and someone you consider spending your life with, there is a lot more to it than with some woman you see casually where sex is the only real glue keeping it together. You're right here, but this doesn't change at all what I've written. In creation of family both parties are expected to perform, and being as strong and reliable as possible is the man duty. Guys who are so extremely hypermasculine that they NEVER …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:25 PM
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What are you talking about? People failing at keeping diet and being in shape means weight loss solution doesn't work too? BTW TRP solutions were NOT designed as a cure for any systemic problem, so to some degree you're right here. But you cannot blame TRP for "you cannot change the game/the world, but you can change yourself" approach. The kind of person you described sounds depressed. And productivity-enchancement gurus like Ali Abdaal sound depressed as well or not? Sorry, usually the best so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:06 PM
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Because arguing on the internet is easy, but preparing your own clean meals is not, working out regularly is not, putting yourself out of your confort zone is not... and so on. Optimal plan is pretty simple, it's just not easy to implement. Hence the rise of blackpill and its "struggle is usually futile, so people are just wasting energy, money and time teehee".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:43 PM
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"Just do the work" and "ideal circumstances" are not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:35 PM
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Yes, take his advice and don't listen to what he's writting right now on the internet. He's overall right, but argument like "if you were lifting weights you wouldn’t ever have needed gym coach in the first place" is plainly stupid. You can learn stuff on your own or somebody else can show you the ropes, this can be applied to almost anything, TRP-like knowledge included.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:33 PM
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Crying over a close friend might actually make her see you as an emotionally developed human and make her feel a sense of security that you are not completely heartless. That's a fairy tale almost close to "somewhere, somebody’s waiting for you". Treat women as people, not as "compassion objects". But you got a point, although you got it in reverse. You have nothing to gain when showing vulnerability, sadness and being hurt BUT acting like emotionless sociopath in some scenarios is IMO more off-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:16 PM
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Eh, ok? https://www.news-medical.net/health/Limbic-System-and-Behavior.aspx One of the roles of oxytocin is being a pair-bonding hormone https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/pair-bonding and part of the brain responsible for catching that is limbic system Neocortex has different on average different responsibilities, even sometimes antagonistic to other parts of your brain: https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/love-actually-science-behind-lust-attraction-companionship/ …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:58 PM
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Source for what? For neocortex not being responsible for falling in love? For different parts of brain being responsible for abstract thinking and different for feelings? Or for women not liking signs of weakness in partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:13 PM
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I don't think any reasonable person can say a man is wrong for crying in that situation We don't use "reasonable" brain to pairbond, and when we try it's called "settling down" or something like this and it's not highly regarded. Her neocortex will of course process "a man for crying over the death of a close friend" as something normal and she will be supportive. But part of her brain responsible for example for developing/keeping bonding feelings won't be happy and will be sending different "s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:22 AM
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I'm 34. My gf is 25. I didn't date her because she has "youthful fertile eggs" or some weird shit like that. I was open to dating women in a wide age range and we happened to hit it off. My previous ex was 3 years older than me. We got it boys! The male version of "I don't have height preference, it doesn't matter that my current BF is 189cm tall, my ex was 175cm"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:08 PM
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This list is really tainted by tradcons' believes - because of that I won't address 3,4 and 5. 1) "Women need to be submissive to a man and should return to their traditional gender roles and a man should be allowed to lead." Time for some oversimplified evopsych. Basic hypergamy, so why fuck average Joe, when you can fuck a winner, or a potential winner. Or you have no much to say/decide anyway, because winners restrict your choosing options. Males that are winners or have potential to be winne…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:33 AM
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Gz, I've changed my layout to new reddit, just to be able to downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:57 PM
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One of the most common redpill beliefs is to "ignore women for all your 20s (...) First sentence and you're already wrong, lol. How can you get social experience, game and so on if you ignore women? If you do so, you will need to catch up later compared to your peers, and that's not optimal for sure. Noone I know from TRP talking heads said that. Maybe you confused it with "don't settle in your 20s", but this is IMO debatable. if a 20 year old is with a guy who's 10+ years older than she is, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:30 PM
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Yet they know more. Same as my old acquaintance that loved downhill knew way more about collarbones (and especially about breaking them) than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:04 AM
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...and during a job interview you don't talk to each other as "regular people", when you try to sell something to potential clients as a proficient seller you don't talk to them as "regular people" and so on. Communication is not completely different of course, but you need to communicate (for example) you want to 'sell' yourself as a potenial lover, not potential friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:40 AM
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That's not my job, I'm not familiar with it, so I would stay quiet about any case and let professionals figure this out, unless I get many "smells of BS", like: rich and famous social media testimony instead of filling a report to authorities revealing it not days but months/years after and so on, then it's "BS until proven otherwise". I don't care about life of famous people (I had even no idea who Russel is), so I won't comment those cases. But I suggest counting number of accusation against r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:34 AM
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IQ measures just one facet of something we understand as "inteligence" and it's the more abstract/autistic side. Not very sexy, nothing new here. Stuff like "having game", "confidence" or "rizz" requires being dumb to an extent in order to internalize extremely gendered behavior patterns uncritically, a intelligent guy will either have to be a psycho to mimic these, or he will see the irony in them and cringe at it. Holy mother of cope, adaptability and wittiness are big part of inteligence and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:33 PM
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Ok, time for some more advanced redpill. I think almost every number I've seen in redpill sphere had quite solid foundation... but often is misrepresent, not that useful without context or just plainly twisted - that's one problem. Bigger one is that concrete and universal values/data are super hard to get, so we use pretty decent estimates, like: Women consider 80% of men ugly while men think most women look fine with some being beautiful and some ugly. This came from OkCupid data, around 2013-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:56 PM
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This question is "would you be rather butt-slapped or kicked in the balls" tier. I don't know what's the point of asking, counting 0.X% of people that will answer "yes, kick me there please"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:41 PM
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It is that link, or you can get youtself a copy of dataclysm book, but you still need to be able to read charts. If you cannot do that I am afraid I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:49 PM
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I don't need to "believe", I can read - and it says that college-aged women look on average the best. And this data is around decade old, so 1) not "now" 2) is not changing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:19 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10?IR=T
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:02 PM
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The 21 years old. ...unless when I get close to 40 or older, then 21 yo would get too young for me likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:01 PM
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Are you a high school teacher or what? Because you got plenty of female virgins there but I wouldn't call them "women" yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:19 AM
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MGTOWs, on average, are pretty redpilled, but MRAs? MRAs are just also a part of manosphere, but they're egalitarists and very often bluepilled to the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:18 AM
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Assuming that "misogyny" is men being butthurt and spiteful towards women - then yes, this is 100% true. You have to have close to 0 understanding about TRP if you don't know why men often (not always) act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:57 AM
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He does something exactly opposite all the time, what is even this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:36 AM
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You're asking or you're just listing your resentment(s) towards TRP? I will skip your mostly ignorant comments and answer question in the title: Red pill in that context is just sexual strategy community for heterosexual males. First: to play the game better you need to understand rules of the game, so you're presented with a crash course about human mating (and not only mating) nature. Then it's time for a strategy (so answering your own "what now?" question), which will differ not only form pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:18 PM
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So same with fitness trainer at gym I used to hire (before covid screwed my plans). Is he a baddie too? Previously mentioned doctors charge me per visit too, at least in my country. But that's not a problem, problem is that you STILL failed to check HOW TRP charges you for community knowledge - and you won't do that, you will remain deliberately and willfully ignorant. Youtube RP gurus are also sinners for trying to monetise some of their knowledge regardless of how much content they've created …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:01 PM
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You cannot negotiate attraction with gestures of good will or favors. BUT... this looks like a giant projection: that's how women operate, and why they act this way is beyond the scope of this question. Once again: you cannot negotiate attraction, but you can make somebody more attractive in one's eyes. Think losing weight this make your more attractive taking an interest in hobbies he has this is good for relationship, but won't increase your SMV. I can't speak for the whole population, but att…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:36 AM
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And car mechanic cannot fix your car, because you won't be needing repairs for a long time... or those damn doctors, they cannot fix your health issue or they would lose a customer. I hope you're not older than 14yo so you can still figure out that we even have all those things civilisation provides us because people are selling their products/services. ...or you can work pro publico bono, like... idk, TRP community did, but looks like ability to check that is beyond your reach and you're just c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:12 AM
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How TRP made money?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:54 AM
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That's why I have limited trust towards science if they even don't ask u/ashpr0ulx
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:31 PM
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I have even harder question: why one of top selling cars is Toyota Corolla, when people asked for their dream car rarely mention it?! Mind explaining that? Or even let's stay purely in relationships topic: why I see so many men with old and fat wifes, if men are atracted to young and fit women? And if you don't have wealth, height/looks, status, you won't be getting any attention from modern women. It depends on expectations, and those are nowadays are usually really inflated among young women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:40 PM
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Sorry, this post is plainly stupid, this is just a set of cherry-picked informations that sometimes are linked to the claim in the title... and sometimes not at all, like this one: Women can be around children without being called a creep And you have listed so much handicaps, how receiving handicap after a handicap could be called "outperforming"?? No, women do not outperform men in any meaningful way excluding "Under 30 out-earning men", it is the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:28 AM
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Did they rewrite books or something? You act like a biased prosecutor trying as hard as you can to put TRP to blame, maybe that's your internalised misoandry? (yes, I can use buzzwords too) How could you even say "begging for approval" in redpill context, when people like "nice guys" exist? I have an impression that you took semi-random currently popular tiktoks/videos that are redpill-adjacent and decided "this is redpill now", I don't care about any incoherent mess you have created in your min…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:22 AM
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I don't consider this as a posibility, I want to aim at women far younger than myself, but still "middle of uni years or higher" and I female virgins are uncommon around that age. ...and since this is IMO very unlikely for me to encounter I don't have strong feelings about that. Virgin would be fine, low n count is desirable, high n count, as always, is undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:11 AM
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If you have read about it either way you did not understood much or you had pretty weird expectations that weren't fulfilled or what? TRP originated from PUA and, let me quote them: The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. ...so sexual strategy discussion for heterosexual men is centered around women? Wait until you find out diet advice is centered around food. Sacrasm aside, TRP expanded later when people discovered that sex life…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:17 PM
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This sub is still half-redpilled at best. And for me it's not about female validation but compaining about current sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:52 PM
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No. Average young man is currently sex-starved, but at the same time quite lethargic about fixing that. People "desperate" usually do anything they can to get out from crisis they got themselves into. Or does porn and masturbation take away mens need for sex? Sex is something more than just "mastrubating with other person's body". Men complain about sex, if for them it feels that way. Even our brain release different hormone response after sex vs after masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:54 AM
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Sometimes we cannot have nice things. Sweet and high caloric food is tasty, you will eat it more and boom! You're fat now. Same with nice plastic packages and enormous piles of trash after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:39 PM
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Sure things buddy, sure thing you're fit and have a better job than before (and so on), yet somebody needs to explain to you what was the point of it, if you "cannot get pussy booo", and traits that make men more attractive magically didn't work out in yout case. Ofc I could explain, but turns out answering you won't get me more pussy either, so I will stop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:41 PM
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What was not worth it? Good luck trying to say that, to quote aqain: New clothes, in good shape, being social and 'touching grass', better job etc etc. were not worth it without sounding like a lazy looser. Lookism does exist, it's better to be more successful in your career than not, same with being fit and so on. I was writting about scenario, when you scored so low on genetic and socioeconomic lottery, that even after improving heavly your SMV and advertising yourself properly on the market y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:11 AM
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I would compare it to normal job market. Firstly, you need to make sure you're employable. Get your life sorted out, like this: New clothes, in good shape, being social and 'touching grass', better job etc etc. And then it's just a numbers game. Problem is that currently in many countries sexual market looks like job market hit by 25% unemployment. You can do all things good enough and still don't get a job. I wouldn't give up self improvement, but IMO shift focus more towards playing numbers. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:35 AM
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Not all of them, don't forget volcels waiting for Ms Perfect eg. people seriously religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:29 AM
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I wouldn't put it this harsh... but no wonder he got attacked for that statement and struggled to defend it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:40 AM
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A guy from my uni met his wife this way. That's a not very reliable solution for sure, but 100x better than "just bother people in library lol".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:20 AM
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She desperately wants to date you. She will cancel any plans with her friends to make herself available for you. Laughs at all your jokes no matter what. Buys YOU stuff. All signs say she reeks of desperation... This doesnt sound exactly like "desperation", more like "she acts like she's extremally heavy into you". Or maybe she even is... or that's just some kind of lovebombing, to catch somebody, out of desperation. Hard to say for me. That feeds male ego overall and IMO most men would pick nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:02 AM
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Because people here are, hehe, purplepilled, they're not super blind and oblivious, but still lacking fundamentals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:26 AM
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An acquaintance years ago suggested me that a strategy called in PUA terms "spinning plates" is good, works for him, and maybe I should give it a try, hitting a gym is also nice. I don't have certified "bitches-on-peepee-meter", no idea how successful he was in social market. Nowadays he's married with 2 kids and fat. I can tell you my anegdotal evidence from my own life, but I need a bit more effort/time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:23 AM
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Well, firstly: welcome to the sexual market place, it ain't nice and easy even for women. But hey, at least law is usually unfairly on your side, it could be worse. Secondly, I associate redpill for women with a places like https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/ (that's just one possible flavour of it) And lastly, redpill is still a self-centric niche, it's not about fixing the market And it’s the job of men to fix this amongst themselves or for good men trustworthy men to be more vocal. ...like…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:41 AM
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I will be rude: you need to be a f****ing horny teenager living in parent's house if you even consider "sex" being anywhere close to the things like "health" or "money". I'm not saying that 0 sex couldn't be a significant problem in your life, but it dwindles in comparition to some SERIOUS issues you can face in life. Heck, even most incels just want to feel being loved and desired (including sexual desire) more than just to make their PP wet. To everyone saying stupid shit like "sex is like foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:42 AM
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Are you american? For some people there sleeping with 17.5 years old is pedophilia. Only other group of people that claim something similar are post wall women shaming men around their age to ignore younger competition. 21 is 3 years above "adoulthood" threshold and 5 above world's average of 16 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:40 PM
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Another guy provided you empirical data in this thread. Can't find "forget about it" there, just, to quote you Their point is much younger women aren't likely to date you(...) which is known, or rather should be known in redpill community. OP claims this is borderline impossible, which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:24 PM
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At least blackpillers can, if mediated, be reasonable. Ah, ok, that's why you spit out semi-random comments. Sorry, won't bother you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:13 PM
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the preferences of the girls you're desperate for. You can't normal discussion with sentences like that. Men are not commodities on the shelf, men are one of counterparties and both counterparties are needed to form a relation. What's so hard to understand about that? Instead you're trying to convince me to things I've already know about and that I never rejected. BTW Rollo is in his 50's lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:34 PM
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Every statistical survey ever conducted on age preference shows women preferring men roughly their own age with a three year difference max Yes. And survey about male preference points to 21-23 age bracket, did you forget about that or you believe men cannot push their own preference on the dating market because reasons? In case of heavy perceived SMV imbalance you can pick up a woman from almost any age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:17 PM
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Cool, so now you're informed than your social circles are unusual then. ~10 years difference is rather rare, but possibile, and ~5-7 years difference is not in "maybe" category, but pretty common. University-aged women on average don't like 30+ men, when they turn 25+ it's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:11 PM
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I don’t think I know ANY girls in their 20’s dating men in their 30’s, even guys with money. Meet more people then? Age difference bigger than 3 years in a couple is definitely not the norm, but still pretty common. No idea how this varies between different countries and regions. ~2 years ago a guy visited me for business inquiries with his pregnant wife? Fiance? Don't remember, but he was 33 and she was 24 afaik. They were both below average, but normal couple. Besides that "hot" is just one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:09 PM
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Situation is almost the same with a product on commodity market. If your product doesn't sell well it doesn't mean it's "below average". It could be bad advertisement, bad pricing, bad local market for such product, super heavy competition and so on. A guy that is not very socialising outsides his circles, if he leaves his comfort zone or get introduced to different social circles that includes women and he suddenly have some success in dating magically goes from "below average" to "average"? Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:50 PM
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I'm the category of most influencing factors I would put either preselection or power. For me it's plainly annoying how susceptible are women to preselection and PUAs were oblivious to attractivness of power, because they usually had none. Still, height is really important for men, but I am on the fence in "height or face" debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:36 PM
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Unfortunately it's not that simple, in "bad boys chasers" group you have women not only from social margins there, but many "good girls" too from full upper-middle class, "proper" families. BTW I have no idea what "obsession" you're talking about and I am afraid I won't help you fighting your demons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:29 PM
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When that guy is actually nice, he can find a girl who shares his hobbies and life experience. So to all alone nerds, turns out you're not really nice, that why have little or no success and ignore those small flocks of women around bad boys, they're "mentally ill and self destructive" teehee~
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:02 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:48 AM
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I know that "masculinity" is not just a one thing, but there are no "alternate expressions of masculinity", at least I don't know any. We have very masculine men, very non-masculine men and whole gradient of people in between. For example this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60zLmpboqc he's looking masculine and doing really masculine thing like lifting heavy plates to get bigger and stronger, yet his profession and overall body language are not very masculine. Do you see traditional mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:43 AM
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Also no mentally stable guy expects a virgin to sleep with him on the first few dates. This belief only exists in the redpill Where are those fact checkers websites and fake hunters when we need them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:07 AM
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i’ve been seeing a lot of conflicting things on this topic. some men want to settle with a virgin after they’ve fucked around a lot. That's their dual mating strategy, not only women can have one. they want a girl who just so happens to be a virgin that won’t mind sleeping with them instantly. "Prince charming on a white horse picking up a plain woman" story, but for men. Let them dream. I personally also prefer low n count women, but virgins are just more extreme case of those and require some …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:05 AM
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Sorry, but you need to touch the grass yourself. "no hymen no diamond" approach is 'only' pretty common in western manosphere, but it's the norm in many traditional societies (don't have to be religious) eg muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:56 PM
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Because women aren’t insects with stingers I'm trying really hard to not ask "Do you have any peer-reviewed papers to back up your claim?" and I think I am losing this battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:20 PM
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I think the main problem with those men is the fact when you have that level of derision and vitriol for women… yeah, no shit they aren’t going to be into you. Wrong. Your attitude is not a currency here, your perceived SMV is. Of course, obnoxious attitude can be a turn off or a deal breaker for many women, but still this is not a main factor. Same when I go to a BMW salon, doesnt matter what I think about this brand or BMW drivers, it matters if I have $$ or not. Rapper with "bitches ain't shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:58 PM
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Technically speaking you're right. I am inferior in many aspects compared to an average woman (eg. cooking skills), and I don't even think about it. Same at my work, I am inferior in position to my supervisor and? Women subconsciously find themselves inferior to men and are often busy trying to prove otherwise. Even if a woman is into super equal/partnership approach, I will find her inferior in some aspects... if I ever would think about it, power struggle dynamics in a relation are cancerous. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:20 AM
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In my country [current_year] feminism fights overly strict abortion, they helped to introduce some nice work-life balance laws for working mothers, or even paternity leave. Don't get me wrong, the last change was done solely to make working mothers less unattractive on the job market by sharing more responsibilities with fathers. This cancerous movement won't do anything even for "equality", men's rights are a big "no no".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:52 AM
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That's why you should go for redpill advice, they directly stated to "work on yourself" AND be proactive in your day/night game. So called monk mode should not take longer than idk, 2 years? "lmao don't you have a lawn to mow, pops?, why didn't you find a wife in your 20s?" That's just your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:37 AM
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Yes. Unless I would have offspring myself, then I would reconsile with idea of playing in the "patchwork family" league myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:41 AM
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That's purely anecdotal, but in social circles I belong/used to belong to I think about 1/3rd "forever alone" got into relationship till their mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:34 AM
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So is it normal to be in your early 20s and have no dating experience? This is getting more and more popular in western or some east asian countries like Korea or Japan. But now you should know, that those things won't come to you by themselves and you need to take way more action, better sooner than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:15 AM
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What's worse, many people from my vicinity don't want to accept it either and met/connected through other means. What should I do? Reach out to them and explain in full blackpill way "cope, life is tinder"? I live in EU, maybe it's different here, but still warm/lukewarm approach through your social circles is the only A tier solution in the dating market I know, and coaches (like eg Alexander Grace) mention this as well. Dating apps are "winners take all", very hard for average (or below) guys,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:40 AM
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And all the dating coach had to say "keep trying". Where are those dating coaches that say "keep trying ON F**KING dating apps"? But if you feel better right now, maybe it's time for a break from it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:42 AM
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Ok, wtf, I just answered and it's already deleted? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:08 AM
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It... depends on what you want to achieve. Overall community figured out years ago, that if your target is amount and quality of sex + overall "fun times", soft harem is the way to go - so called "plate spinning". It beats both very casual sex and more serious, monogamic relationships. Then, when you want, you can transition to bigger commitment with one of 'your' women, if you want for example to start a family, or you get tired of spinning plates. BTW "continuous improvement", as an argument f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:07 AM
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...or just cut their loses and move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:21 PM
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Young and hot women? Yes. But that's like 10-15 years of her expected 80. Plain and average or below average have their own struggles even in "prime years".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:16 PM
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I am a grown up adult. In my life there is already a slow, but steady process of giving up video games for other activities. Some are different leisure entertainment kinds, other are just extra chores not known in my student/highschool life. Still, this Supposing this is true (not here to argue the validity or methods of the study), would you give up playing video games 100% if it meant you were more likely to get laid? is just a bad deal, if you don't have already other plans. Giving up somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:43 PM
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Do you even know WHY dating for men in their 30s can be easier? After you understand that, you will answer your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:55 AM
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Offended? Yes, if I learned that she used to escalate to sex in like 2 weeks with other men, I would be offended. Otherwise, of course it depends on context/circumstances, but 3 months is too long for me, I have low libido, but I don't want to have duty sex 2 times a year in the future with borderline asexual woman (or woman that's just not interested in sex with me).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:04 AM
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I will be harsh - the only thing that doesn't fit is your reading comprehension. "A bum" use google image, or any search engine of your choice. Then, if you're still not sure, search for "gansta", "yakuza", "mafia member". Do you see a difference between them and a bum? Thats yours assumption that law defiance is directly correlated with “negative social status” - and it's wrong. Ok, common thugs have low social status, but they have their own advantages in the eyes of women and how could you ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:20 PM
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What delusion world do you live in? Maybe they "date down" from the high horse of expectations and self entitlement... ..which is not true at all when you take into consideration general population. Modern women in "date down" or be single dilema prefer to stay single, even mainstream catches this trend: https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:49 PM
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So have you seen that famous "average woman with a bum" couple yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:38 PM
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Look around your female colleagues/friends. Women don't care that much about male success/performance when they're not adult women, but teenagers or barely coming into real adulthood. Then after really understanding that usually resoures don't come from out of thin air, male money/status is really taken into consideration - and you forgot about hipergamy. Article after article is being written about lack of "economically attractive men" on the market or "there is not enough men with higher educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:21 AM
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No, they don't. No matter how much "height personality" or other nice personalities a bum can have, negative social status is a deal breaker for almost all women. "Almost", so yes, you can find very few outliers, but those are rare outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:52 AM
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Women are not criticised enough for "covert communication" & "keeping plausible deniability". Is this his fault for not reading the clues? Or her for giving shitty and vague IoIs covered by perfectly normal scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:40 AM
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..and no, I don't have time to go for the rest of the links, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:22 PM
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Ok. I've read research from frontiers in psychology In a remarkable study, Roney and Simmons (2013) asked 43 naturally ovulating women to complete a daily diary, which included daily ratings of women's sexual desire, over the course of up to two full cycles. Saliva was collected nearly every day for assays of estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone. Super solid "science" in form of self-filled questionares strikes again, empirical PUA's findings in shambles. At least hormones measuring is legi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:21 PM
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...maybe. But without strict and precise language discussions will get more and more meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:16 PM
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No. Woman loves her offspring, because that's her offspring. There is your condition. Undonditional love doesn't exist and makes no sense biologically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:59 AM
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Oh, a real shit I've read on TRP back in the days, and not usual "talking out of my ass". Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:49 PM
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Do you have a peer-reviewed study proving that "Manosphere guys online know nothing about conducting studies, aren't academically trained and are pushing a clear agenda"? Sarcasm aside, it's really annoying to talk with people that treat science papers like magic cards to prove their point. Scientific method doesn't work that way in social science. Overall, in many cases, it's the best approach we have, but know its limitations. Findings done in field by PUAs are worth way more than some papers …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:42 PM
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Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:10 PM
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And you enROLLOed (hehe) very faulty argument because of that. He's not "a podcaster", he's a living fossil in seducion community, starting from forums activity, through blogs, books and now currently YT shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:02 AM
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Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses ...what? You drew this conclusion out of a fact that Rollo supports his daughter in getting education? BTW AFAIK she's already engaged, so all according to plan so far. This proves that deep down they know that being 100% dependent on a man is a real risk for women. In western countries laws cover this to some degree, but yes, there is still a risk. Rollo Tomassi has 5 hours shows where he says that women should trust men to bring …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:52 AM
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That's rather optimistic, but if you have done what's possible, there is no point in worrying too much about things outside your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:45 AM
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Why are you in legaly formal relation if you're aware about risk/reward ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:59 AM
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Most accurate answer here is IMO "it depends"... which is kinda useless. I think classical answer to a problem like that was "demote her to plate". You can be as friendly with other girls as she is with her ex, or even more, no hard feelings, no drama, you can always monkey branch to another girl to be more serious with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:48 AM
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Eh, I'm not sure. Every niche has it's own words - chess, math, geopolitics, law, any hobby group and so on and IMO it's not enough to call that separate mini-cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:54 PM
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Checked that subreddit and damn, PPD really shines in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:14 PM
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Any links to "women hating" posts? Because right now in front of my eyes I see another incel-bashing. Wtf is even "incel culture", they have their own terminology and lingo, not culture. This subreddit is not middle of the road, redpill posts are more upvoted than not indeed, but it's still not the same as forums.red.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:00 PM
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I like women around my height. I'm 5'9 in freedom units. A bit smaller than me is fine. A bit higher feels weird, but by any means this isn't a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:10 PM
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Holy shit, in a category of "mentally ill/socially inept" she beats like 90% of incel forums veterans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:59 AM
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If you reduce trp to something this simple, yes, it will sound stupid. But that's not redpill's problem, it's yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:42 AM
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...or maybe sometimes to shield us from harsh reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:35 AM
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...and IMO you're right. Redpill info is used very often as low hanging fruit to bash women on the internet, because male audience want to vent off some frustration, so they generate clicks/view time. Core findings are unbiased, they're just not always used that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:31 AM
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It's kinda gross how diet grifters expoit vulnerability of people unsatisfied with their fat bodies. It's kinda gross how fitness grifters expoit vulnerability of people unsatisfied with their skinny-fat bodies. It's kinda gross how mechanic grifters expoit vulnerability of people unhappy with their broke-ass cars. I can go on and on. You got my point: you have problem X, but hey - there are people around specialised in solving problem X! Nice. Too stupid/busy/don't care to learn free informatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:24 AM
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There is plenty of overlap indeed, but those are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:25 PM
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Read from shit sources, have shit opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:23 PM
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Are you sure? How about this "science-based insights" like https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/the_myth_of_the_alpha_male First paragraph is literally: "Single straight guys: If you want to attract more women, research suggests you should cultivate kindness and altruism." Of course they also know that fit > fat when it comes to attractiveness, but answer to the question "what should I focus on" is heavily diluted by stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:55 PM
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Damn, that's a hard question. First to clarify, the left is more collectivistic and equality-oriented. TRP has a natural synergy with lib-right political views. TRP, besides stating "facts", is reactive and targets individual with proposed solutions. You do your work, you succeed/want to succeed, so you want more freedom. You don't want to be restricted by stiff social norms or any other regulations. Don't also forget than men, on average, are naturally more right-wing. Good starting point would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:53 PM
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This is "Bill Gates puts 5G nanochips into covid vaccines" of pill discussions. Not in a mood for trolling and this post deserves nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:22 PM
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I think, at least for me, that's the primary cause. In the past women were sending me IoIs (indicators of interests), but I can't have women attention to make the move if they're no women around lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:48 PM
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Good point. Unfortunately, afaik, apps like IG are now the main dating ground. Kinda sad because I don't want to make stupid photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:19 PM
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You could go rape a woman right now and the chances of you going to jail is close to none. Rape is virtually legal Either way leave this dystopian shithole you're living in right now, or take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:08 PM
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I wanted to write almost the same post, it will sound condescending, I don't care. On top of that burgers measure world with bald eagles per football field, they call lefties "liberals", don't even know what "a woman" is, but will try to """educate""" you about wage gap, what "a rape" is and export their own unnecessary issues like overblown racial tension to the world. Piss off. Every 3rd woman could be "raped" per week, if your "rape" definition is stupid enough. I've checked those clips, F&F …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:02 PM
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Not looking actively for a partner and (more important) there are almost no women in my social circles. Hobbies that I like, industry where I work result in scenario when if I meet a new people, over 90% of them is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:09 PM
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Some really attractive guys get approached by reasonably attractive girls, she's into him so, 1) she makes first move 2) is sweet, feminine and as problem-free as possible 3) is enthusiastic in bed and nice looking ...what more do you need? More problems and competition for somebody 1-2 notches higher on the 1-10 scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:42 PM
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If she’s into you, it’s painfully obvious Never underestimate obliviousness of men on the spectrum and women's desire to stay in plausible deniability range.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:09 PM
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Ah, ok. But still, I don't believe it, most sports are competitive at least to some degree and competition is rooted soo deeply in male's nature. Even if they don't care about that sport team, they care about something else. Problems mentioned by me & others are widely spread in western world, and even if your own community is visibly different, they still leak in, whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:51 AM
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What's wrong with men? 1) Bar is way higher. Too high for you? You're not a "good man" in women's eyes. 2) College aged boys aren't fully matured men. People used to mature faster decades ago. Try looking at ~25 years old or slightly higher 3) Declining testosterone levels, and this hormone is heavly linked with drive 4) Bad diet and being fat. You're fat, so you have less energy, your potential GF is also fat, so you have even less drive to pursue her. 5) Dopamine activators everywhere and prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:34 AM
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Still a 5/10. But for me her intelligence matters definitely, her work a bit less but still that's a factor. I see supermarket cashier differently from somebody with career-like job or business vs CEO from your example. My preference is some kind of career/business > dead end job >> CEO. Exceptionally successful woman would kick out my medium-value-man ass anytime, it's like a ticking bomb. I would be surprised if her hipergammy alowed to take me into consideration at the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:32 PM
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I didn't. And I see no point further explaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:19 PM
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Let's face harsh reality, if a woman, after taking basic care about herself, it's still around 3/10 or lower, she needs to reconcile with idea that she will be a C plan to settle for... or single. Or she needs to invest heavy $$$ into more radical options. I use more or less standard distribution (or at least I'm trying to do so) for arbitrary ranking people and I'd say 10/10 suits around 0.1% young(-ish) women. 999 women out of 1000 are not good enough (visually) for dating? It's not even a bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:17 PM
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Read slower next time, there is literally 0 'whataboutism' in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:04 PM
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I am aware (to some degree) about their plight, it's not very discussed in manosphere, because it's not directly related to men issues. Can be everything perfect on paper to them, but if you're not a 10/10 barbie doll, you end up just being good enough to bang but not good enough to date. You're either trolling or your 0/10 awarness stops you for realizing that men other than Nick Bateman exist and being this picky is not possible for them, even if they wanted to act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:11 PM
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This is not a RP sub (rather RP-leaning, that's not the same). I've checked now demographics thread and we have 12% redpillers here. Can't tell from this data (or I just didn't find it) if they're happy with their current dating status or not, and if they're not happy... well, I don't remember reading on TRP advices like "go DYEL, spend free time arguing on the internet forum" as a part of maximising your success chances. So "hardcore RPers" are either fine with what they got, or they failed at …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:39 PM
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people in community focused on increasing success in sexual marketplace achieve opposite effects, because I say so, and every field report is just a larp. Trully a 5head take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:58 AM
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Still way above average considering Reddit's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:10 PM
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For many women every hobby that doesn't create tangible value and/or cannot be bragged about between women or on the internet is a no no. That includes gaming of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:14 AM
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I think average people tent to act as shitty and as spoiled as world let them be. It's especially visible for children, adults have more self control and self-imposed standards. In western civilisation women are held to lower standards than men and there you have effects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:53 PM
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I have no time nor willingness to investigate 30 accounts or so, but on anonymous forums people usually bait with something funny, edgy and/or controversial. This toppic reappears regularly everywhere, no way there are hundreds accounts waiting to just write mundane, bitter stories about being hurt and disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 12:50 AM
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Yes, women existing in your head would never act this way, so those guys must be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 12:34 AM
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Game is still there. Game is basically a marketing, ability to sell yourself well. If you don't believe power of marketing, you're simply delusional, we have so many examples of unremarkable products selling super well due to marketing. Problem is that in a narrow mind of some zoomies, the only dating forum that exist is "Tinder", hence claims that looks (of your photos) is everything and game doesn't work. Well, you cannot play your game if you're not given your turn at the first place. The rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:03 PM
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Im not sure whether you brainwashed yourself to think that your random man on the street is an amalgamation of traits that you've found (and didn't like) on the internet, or you're just during redpill anger phase. Maybe both. Pro tip: don't date fit guys, so bros from TRP/bodybuilding are authomatically excluded. Schizos from chans, on average, don't like to go outside, so you're safe there and your average MGTOW don't care enough to play manipulation games. Easy. Considering the fact that TRP a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:36 PM
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I would say manosphere is bigger than redpill-esque zone and include incells, MRAs and others. I know people want to push narrative that's like a "cool boys club" but it's not the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:52 AM
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Firstly, this is really bad risk + effort vs reward ratio. Secondly, this requires face-to-face social skills, and younger generations are getting less and less good at it, they won't want to even try. Finally... Where? "Anywhere" works only if you're an experienced, good looking player. We don't have now protocols nor good spots for dating in person excluding "speedating"? Clubs are meh and not for everyone, many times it's sausage fest there anyway. So where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:32 PM
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Low SMV != being a bad partner Terrible dating prospects in your arena != being a bad partner. Ofc I know many. And what's preventing people like this is mostly lack of proper social circles with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:00 PM
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I would be single over even a mediocre relationship, probably that's one of the reasons why I'm single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:43 AM
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their content gets monetised I would say "sometimes stay monetised". YT lately kicks people out of monetisation for any stupid reason, and guys like that are an easy target.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:30 PM
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Unfortunately or not, this is what currently sells on YT. Either way you go for drama and ragebaits or try to sell your books/counseling/whatever while dodging YT strikes or it's just not even a side gig, but just a hobby for you. Variety and in-deph talks are rather niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:31 AM
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I agree, what's the point of watching them over and over again, unless you're really into this type of discussion? Excluding commentary about current news or "your rage porn of the week", content will get repetitive and it's time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:58 PM
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Because they treat women like adults. Adults are responsibile for they own decision to sleep around. By choosing "I am not going to be an ice cream licker that spoils ice creams for others" what do you think it's going to happen? Somebody else will take your place, that's all. As other mentioned, TRP is reactionary, it's to adapt to existing reality, not to martyr yourself trying to fix society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:47 PM
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If they decided to go into a relationship with somebody around their age I think they're happy with it. Just wondering as the general idea in this sub is men are most attracted to 20yr old's at all ages.... yet most guys are in similar aged relationships. Ask men what car they would like to own and rather not many would answer "10 years old Honda Civic", even if that's what they have and are totally fine with it. Edit: To everybody saying that woman is not a car. I agree. Now go somewhere else, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 12:49 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:27 PM
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If you don't want to have family and children, MGTOW is a legit option to save yourself plenty of headache. People like this just need to be more social among themselves and they should be fine, we used to have bachelor's clubs where men gathered and did things together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:17 PM
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Check atheist forums, same stuff. If only thing community has in common is "we don't do X" then they usually bitch about X.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:12 PM
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You have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:06 PM
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And did you read my post? You're essentially arguing that relationships with female breadwinners are doomed to failed because the women are insecure about having a lower-earning partner due to hypergamy. This is not true and I wouldn't call "I deserve better" thinking an insecurity for sure. Relationships with female breadwinners do not fail on account of women being hypergamous, they fail due to the male partner's insecurities. Could we introduce term like "femcel talk"? This twisted logic dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:29 AM
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Some people are blind enough to not see that earth is spherical, others are blind enough to not see hypergamy even after a flood of articles like "Men bad because way more women now have higher educations and poor laidies cannot find 'equal' partner now (why it matters? Why they don't complain when man is more educated?)". Later you will find bitching about "Men need to step up, because successful women cannot find economically attractive partners". And why hipergamy exist in the first place is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:56 PM
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To put it bluntly - you have no idea what are you talking about. Only upside is mentioning evolutionary biology, but you don't understand it as well. Your single stat proves what? How do you think it should work? Woman outearns her husband by 1% => instant divorce? If not maybe 5%? 10%? Or maybe try to dig deeper than one random stat? Start from counting studies like this: https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/family-law/divorce/statistics-show-divorce-is-more-likely-when-a-woman-mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:49 PM
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Overall I agree with you, there is currently no alternative model for "how to get laid" problem that comes even close to any shade of red pill. Check my flair and you will know what I think about correctness of TRP, but sceptics and "dontlikeit"-ers don't have anything else that is coherent at least. The RP message is a lot more concrete, giving you a more definite idea: "Follow my program and you'll be drowning in pussy!" That's not the message, this sounds like an ad for a product. But yes, fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:05 PM
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"just wait" is a terrible advice, you will gain basically nothing by just waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:10 AM
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Well, yes? You need extreme "compensation" to compete with a guy who got extremely good looks, but why are you even bringing this up? Women on dating profiles are more lenient, they "see" top 5%, but you can think only about top 1%-ers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:04 AM
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Apex fallacy in action. I'm just an average dude and man, those hot, young women have it some much easier ...yeah, we know lol. Now go outside and touch the grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:06 AM
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I got there probably around same time, I don't remember now exact time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:56 AM
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"You will have normie-approved hobbies or I'm not interested" that sounds like somebody unsuitable for even casual LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:26 AM
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Sorry, I am not a zoomer, I had no idea that creating a dating app profile is linked with harsh NDA-like agreement that you won't be able to have IRL interactions with opposite sex without meeting them online first. I know like 2 couples around that age that met via discord, is this some kind of loophole? But I think it's still not that bad, let's say it's 50:50, so considering gender ratio at tinder 4 out of 5 men and 1 out of 5 women is there. But that doesn't sound right, probably there is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:13 PM
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It’s no longer Looks, Money, and Status. It’s Looks, Looks, Looks, Face, Race, Height, and Frame If I ask people, why they think that way, they usually answer "Tinder". Ok, I agree, this is a proper observation and reality at Tinder. But I shit you not, Tinder is not the whole life nor the whole dating scene, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:37 PM
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This is unfortunately purely anecdotal, but if people met at school/college age they're usually same-aged pair. If they met later in life I think "age gap couple" are the norm, but the gap is like 3-5 years. 7 or more years are a minority for sure, but not rare at all. Ofc in all my examples man is older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:31 PM
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Peak SMV at 50 is mostly for betabuxmaxxers. For women, they take more factors into consideration what they want from their partner. The more advantages/benefits, the higher is your SMV. So, if you take a man, who has wealth, looks, status, mentality, even maybe power, so everything at the age 21, he will be higher that a man that has all of it but at the age of 34. does not mean males don't have the potential to peak highest at 21-25. Therefore I agree that this is technically true. But let's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:24 PM
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Friendly reminder that maybe I don't agree with "all is fair in love and war", but sexual strategy is amoral. Take a look at women, they're walking plausible deniability and white/small lies. You should learn from them to "enhance" your desirability. Where is the red line of "too much" is up to you. I, myself, for example, would never lie to the face about things like "Yes I want to marry you and have kids one day" if that's not the case. That's way to much, wasting her small time window if this…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:03 AM
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In Poland, my country, mediterranean phenotype is on average more desired by women here that slavic one. So maybe central europe? Another plus is similar, european mindset, less culture shock for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:59 AM
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I see 0 reasons to watch this adaptation, since I've played the game,. but... "truthful to the source" sounds like a pros, not a cons in my book, even if im a "consertative" in today word. I won't play sequel though and when TV series gets there, it will likely look like your average Netflix garbage. PSA: that's not the reason I won't play part II, but it's adding insult to injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:49 PM
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I had to check and here we use term "alimony" for both child support and spousal support. If you have to pay support for your elderly parent(s) it's called alimony too. Confusing wording aside, my point is still clear. Woman's needs and risk are mostly already covered by law. For men it's way worse, we have some laws here like lack of psychical intimacy is a ground for a fault divorce, but family court is super feminised and often plainly retarded and can screw you up as hard as is pertimable by…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:15 PM
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Indeed that's a big risk, which was hedged by, for example, alimony. No idea where you live but usually people complain about alimony being unfair for a men, not something easy to dodge. In my european country, if you can prove in court that you your arragement was settled to be one income + SAHM and then deal was broken, you will pay alimony not only for children but for wife too. Which makes sense: ofc it corrupted into often paying alimony for your wife because regardles of circumstances beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:39 PM
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Or to be more precise: they care about bashing you, not about helping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:24 PM
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☑ based ☑ redpilled No seriously, people take core concepts from TRP and "reinvent" them, like somehow this knowledge was not stated before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:09 PM
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This is how Tinder works, if your whole dating market life is just Tinder and you don't know life outside social apps, this might be your PoV. Why knowledge about what's attractive for women is shrinking in manosphere? Before LMS theory was almost universally agreed upon. IMO they had forgot very important factor, it's called "power", likely because PUA gurus didn't have access to it, so it wasn't tested in practice by them and was ommited. First example I've thought of today, check out war crim…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:41 AM
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Prefer for what? 2nd one sounds like a good plate material, but not much more. It's like a high maitenance, 800HP exotic car that consumes 30-50L of fuel per 100km. Good to rent/try, nightmare for a normal person to use as a daily. And for me 1st girl is not a good casual fling, if you're looking for that. If she's still a virgin, most likely her mindset is "serious relationships only". When you're not trying to settle down yourself, let other man give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:04 AM
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I deplore the fact that deadbedroom are not considered "incels", even if reallistictly they should qualify to similar category. Once a month or less for non-retirement age people should be qualified as bordering sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:51 PM
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That's a valid point, but I think in a grand scheme of things this impact is rather small. First you need to have someone that put effort in this and become a plate-spinner that wasn't a natural player to begin with. I don't think that's a big % of all redpill-aware people. You need to remember that outside internet manosphere, redpill is not a part of mainstream and it's pretty niche. I agree that TRP is individualistic and reactionary, so it's "not helping", but we have way more vast and impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:08 PM
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I mean, it's very similar to job market. Imagine there is 28% unemployment rate in your arena. I can pick an unemployed man, employ him or make him way more employable. Pros: he got a job Cons: there is still 28% unemployment in the area. You can fix yourself, you can't fix the market. Same with sexual market. Win vs others (and your average competitor isn't good at all) and/or geomaxx to better location.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:04 PM
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I know numbers like this are subjective, but IMO base, residual sexless male % in healthy circumstances should stay around 10%? Maybe 15% and in older graphs we see data like this: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-are-the-men-without-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:43 PM
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"only 23%" And on top of it, one study shows "almost 1 in 3", other "almost 1 in 4", sorry, those are somewhat comparable numbers, how you can even say new "measurement" invalidates previous one? We're not measuring radiation of an isotope, we're trying to estimate something in social science. Both of them can be true at the same time, just pick different sample from different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:01 PM
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I know Rollo says that alpha widow is more dangerous and quality of exes is more important than quantity, but I am not entirerly convinced. In your example she has no alpha widow qualities, which is IMO impossible after being for so long with true Chad. If she experiences only mild withdrawal syndroms and dont bring him up during every quarrel, is open sexually with me and so on, I would lean heavy to pick her as better option. She proved herself to be stable and not getting bored in one, long r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:36 PM
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For a person focusing on "critical thinking" your examples are plainly stupid. You don't understand "AWALT"? Maybe ask politely for explanation? How do you want to convince anybody to anything by punching your own ridiculous strawman? As the acronym suggest, AWALT applies to basically ALL women. It was developed to shut down "my unicorn gf wouldn't be like this!" arguments. Here, I can give you a proper AMALT example, that could be provided by a paranoic woman. All men are equiped in tools for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:41 PM
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This. There is NO "new redpill", there is just influx of people bad at understanding redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:25 PM
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I can like a woman, I used to have some female friends, but pick random woman from a crowd and I probably won't get good connection with her. So no, I don't like women as a collective. That's not a coincidence that prepubescent boys on average stick with other boys, not girls. Do you deep down see women as equals? Noone deep inside believes that, starting from internet edgelords, ending with international law-makers. Do you think women and men can connect intellectually and that such a connectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:31 AM
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I can very confidently say that when you’re in that RP mindset, you absolutely don’t view women as people, even if you think you do. I swear, if covid pandemic didn't exist, "redpill" would create most confitently ignorant people I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:09 AM
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By "snapped out of it" you mean you stopped binge watching content like that? Good idea overall. to sell you bullshit masculinity courses that don’t actually provide any value that you can’t find elsewhere Frankly speaking, that can be said about almost anything - art courses, workout plans, IT bootcamps, diets and so on. You can just pay for convinience or/and some of us just need overseeing eye to stick to the plan. the idea that you aren’t the problem, it’s those damn hypergamous, shallow, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:15 PM
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If I were as annonying as eg. Destiny, I would ask "Do you have any scientific source to back up your claims?" :) For someone liking scientific sources your opinion about about TRP silly; garbage; miserable; bitter; unhealthy copping (and others) is not very scientific, but heavy opinionated. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:12 AM
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Unfortunately you're wrong. People posting content X in place Y could be as arguments and logic resistant as the other side, but they just have more free time and tenacity for "overshouting" others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:57 PM
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So? Evolutionary psychology is categorised as soft science, Rollo says redpill is a praxeology, which is even "softer". I wouldn't say redpill is very scientific. So what? TRP is toolbox of knowledge what works and (probably) why - and is the best model of reality of sexual dynamics we currently have. Probably nothing strickly sticking to scientific method will come out in foreseeable future. Bread recipe found on the internet is not a valid scientific theory, guide from game X wiki is not a sci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:51 PM
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It's super improbable to not find anyone with RP views and one of those degrees. It's not like it matters anyway - no amount of degrees would change current knowledge in evo psych, and TRP was "stealing techs" from people like Buss heavly, that's one of the reasons of tremendous overlap between evo psych and TRP mental maps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:08 PM
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My neighbour found his wife on OLD (not Tinder). It's just few years, but so far so good and their relastionship is IMO heavy tradcon-leaning. But full "muh virgin tradcon wife" meme is really hard to accomplish even IRL, good luck with that on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:05 PM
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I barely know him, but I am glad he proves TRP principles in action, like "stay fit", "learn to sell yourself", "hold the frame" by not engaging in a stupid argument with dumb teenager over the internet or "reduce your fastfood intake, including pizza", otherwise you can face some unplesant consequences. Thank you Tate for being a shining example of what to do and what NOT to do at the same time. Trully a top G (whatever that means).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:57 PM
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What's "mithical" about the wall? Overall I do agree, less schadenfreude, more self-focus. You have "a wall" in many aspects of your life, try for example becoming a successful football player after 25, good luck. You have shorter time window here than women have for securing a worthy partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:49 PM
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learned just how entitled, manipulative, and cruel men can be And the best part is that IMO most men need to learn how to be "entitled, manipulative, and cruel", but women are born with this knowledge :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:01 PM
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A HvM always cheats and it should be considered normal Who even says that besides...idk, Tate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:50 PM
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First of all, there is no "before", TRP is in the same, heck, big part of it could be even described as "reinventing the wheel". Angry men just click on videos criticising women more (could you really blame them?), content creators specialise more, so stuff like this floats easier to the surface and it's more visible, yes this is kinda what "the current red pill audience wants". TRP was designed to maximise your value and success on sexual market place. That's why endorsed contributors were focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:48 PM
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I like that height problem was not debated much in redpill sphere, so we can be both attacked from blackpill side for "telling" that height doesn't matter and from more bluepill-leaning side for "telling" that height could be a 'death sentence'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:47 PM
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Info from TRP was addressed to the average man. Do you remember "AFC" abbreviation? I've never followed Tate's content so can't tell much what he's trying to sell you, but of course we will have redpill-flavored dreams sellers on the scene as well. Same could be said about finantial advisors, business advisors and so on. Even when buying any product from shopping mall, this is your responsibility to be able to distinguish adrtisement from a review.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:57 PM
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And dieticians have interest of keeping you fat? And gym trainers have interest of not teaching you proper form/routine? And lawyers have interest of not resolving your case? And dentists have interest of not fixing properly your teeth? People like that do exist, but are they the norm? You're just biased AF and if you want to pay for redpill knowledge, that's just your choice, because vast majority of it is free anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:46 PM
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Almost everyone around 30 will pick young looking 30, because she's clearly a better "product" on the market, try maybe 20 looking 20 vs 30 looking 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:30 PM
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WTF is this post? Ofc this is almost always not a desires state of affairs, but how this is considered as a real hardship? Do you want to have finantial or health problems instead? Or maybe a popular problem among male "sex-havers" like fighting for your children in innane and vile to you family court?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:02 AM
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It's possible, but IMO it's the same way like spotting a plastic surgery. Sometimes it is visible to some degree, like fake tits, and sometimes it's really hard to tell, if this is "natural state" or "fixed state". Best way is to compare person from the past to his present state, if previous beta shlump now falls neatly into "what a man should do according to trp" category, chances that he somehow changed all that way by himself are pretty slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:44 PM
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Just date wishy-washy men, problem solved. Oh wait, they're not attractive, that's sad. I can assure you, that statistically speaking, your chances to get abused by a man that misunderstood redpill are super slim. He was just always abusive or something else moved him that way. And protip at the end: you have two legs, you can just move away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:05 PM
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I agree in 90%, but for me 18yo is more a teenager than an adult, so it might spark some controversy - and for things you've listed, well... we need to draw the line somewhere, IMO most people don't have proper adult mentality before some years after college age. But age like 22 is a different story and mostly a jelously. Don't forget, in their ginocentric minds it's always man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:49 AM
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If he's buffed, or at least fit, you have no way of knowing it, because if he didn't forget about doing the work, he probably also remembers "don't talk about the fight club" rule. If he talks about it, he's not the one, he just comsumes internet content, including that. I've never heard about "top g" before Tate, so IMO you can safely assume he's a Tate viewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:43 AM
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sigh OK, step by step. A guy comes to repill and asks: "Heey guys, how do I get better at picking women?" And the most universal and most consistently working method is "become better 'success object' and then offer yourself on the market in a language they understand (covert communication)". That's it. I won't polemicize here with freudian-ish optic here that everything is about sex, stick with it if you like it, idc. All advice given by redpill communities is under the veneer of getting more w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:30 AM
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Just give a ring as a present to your best BJ giver "it's just a piece of metal, are you really that materialistic, it's not about love?", go for a honeymoon for your female friend "it's because I'm not respecting her as much as you, so I won't spent even a fraction of time that I will spend with you" and suddenly women know the drill. Magically remembering the rules and calling you names for your behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:29 AM
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I don't know if this is the exact story you're looking for, but Rollo posted something like this in his blog under post "saving-the-best"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:03 AM
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unending red pill rage bitterness and nihilism extreme cynicism getting baned on social media by slippping some thruths :) less satisfactions from relationships, or even interactions with women. When you know what's behind magician's trick, the magic is gone and watching spectacle is no longer as enjoyable as it used to be. potential paranoia, for example about woman's sexual past
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:50 AM
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You're right saying that this is not a game changer. It might be a game changer for your overall life and how do you feel/what are your energy levels, but when it comes to SMV it "just" provides a significant boost. Usually, this alone is not enough for a guy with no social circles/activities. Without already good enetics girls won't magically land on your pp nor you get into top 4.5% on Tinder. ...but it makes a big different how you will look like among fat nerds in sweatpants in board games c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:33 PM
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She has kid(s). She is obese. She is stupid af. She is "born again virgin" for me, but had wild sex with other men before. The rest is IMO at least slightly negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:06 PM
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In redpill sphere you have all kind of guys, from mgtows fucking a doll to people married for over 20 year. They agree in 90% things with each other - so you can pick your talking head in almost any relationship-state flavour you want. Do this community a service and lurk more before stating those "truths".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:53 AM
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It's a typical reaction from woman that understood RP to at least some degree. "Tips how to succeed on SMP?" be a better product => :) sell yourself higher => >:( Standard reaction from a client on any market, not only SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:34 AM
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Goddamnit, you're hopeless. The more time passes, the harder it gets for PPD to gasp concept as simple as "the wall". I do wonder if I can find something similar in other circles, e.g. bikers that don't believe in counterstreeting lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:26 AM
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Ok, quick lecture, since you are lacking fundamentals. Women peak young, because what's desired in them is just ready when they turn adult. Then you have slow decline for few years that accelerates quickly around 30. Women start with high SMV that starts to melt. Men start with low SMV. Usually they have not much more than a potential. Status requires time to build, money requires status to build, experience, muscles and resourcefulness too. You can start with good genetics, sometimes with money…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:16 AM
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Another huge issue is that everybody can post their opinion under the flag of the red pill. You're good damn right. I see people talking semi-correct things and calling themselves redpilled or even better - "ex" redpilled, so I decide to correct them. What is even "correct"? Are you saying you have it all figured out? Unfortunately not, but I've found a community that figured out things for me. Nice. When it comes to redpill "facts", all redpill talking heads that I followed agreed in I think cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:20 PM
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Who are you to say that I was not red pilled? A guy who lurked redpill long enough that I almost stopped, because usually I don't learn anything new. I can conclude your redpill knowledge based on what you write. And you write weird things, like People arguing that their god or their interpretation of a scripture is correct. Quality of opinion is able to be estimated in almost all knowledge fields I know. TRP is not an exception here. A large part of the red pill teaching revolves around dating.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:04 PM
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You were never redpilled at the first place. Seriously, who would come with idea that trp is for coping with rejection, lol. Also, when you date women with the mindset that they all share some behavioral characterstics, why even bother chosing one? If they are all the same, what's the pount. This logic makes no sense at all. If all you options are basically the same, you could pick any of them, what's is the point of NOT chosing only one? Changing it will give you the same result as before, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:19 PM
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MGTOWs are kinda like atheists - those, whose whole identity orbits around this one factor have issues with themselves. But those people are the most visible on the internet. Don't learn what's MGTOW by just observing (banned already) subreddit, otherwise you will draw some misleading conclusions. As I said, it's like meeting somebody in person and asking "You're an atheist, huh? Then where's your fedora?" Normally MGTOWs are simillar to bachelors, but your stereotypical MGTOW goes there after b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:03 AM
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I remember reading some stories from exredpill. I've seen one (1!) out of dozens posts that I would consider his author as a (ex?)redpiller. The rest was just stupid to put it bluntly. TBH "ex-redpill" doesn't even make sense in my book. It's like talking to an adult and hearing "You know, I thought I am smart, that I figured things out, that Santa Claus doesn't really exist. But now I know better, I was just being naughty and jaded" said seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:21 PM
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First of all, every woman looking for more serious relationship is interested in your ability to accumulate resources. Whether it is current ability or your prospects. Careers women are... also women, just their "good enough" is way higher. Heavly career-focused women are bad dating prospects because (oversimplyfing) they want more and offer less than younger and more family-oriented counterparts. So we're left with everything starting from "more career than family" to "I want to be stay-at-home…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:52 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:29 AM
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As a reward for having very long penis you're able to put smaller % of it inside and some positions become really difficult. But hey, you can brag on the internet (people won't believe you anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:27 AM
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+10 cm makes you seems more confidend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:21 AM
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You have a very fresh example from "What does a red pilled woman get out of the ideology" thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:03 PM
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Imagine following conversation: OP: I'd like to ask truckers: Do you really do X? Why? trucker: Well, practically no, because... OP: I don't think you're a real trucker then. or OP: You might be less of a trucker than you think. ...just replace "trucker" with "redpiller" and this is how your average "ask trp"-esque thread looks like. What's wrong with you people? Do you also go to "ask" different social groups like muslims/vegans/fishermans/artists/whatever and then correct them because received…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:30 PM
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Almost no women in my social circles. And we all should know this is a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:15 PM
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"Met on the internet" is not the same as through OLD. I know more people that met on the internet (and then dated) using forums/discord/even MMO than via Tinder/Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:06 PM
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Do you think that "muh cult" guy can give you any source?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:44 PM
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He should use the very same strat women do when it comes to problematic history: just lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:14 AM
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Good to hear that things worked out for you. One day, when you ascend in reading comprehention as well, you might not even be a blackpiller anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:10 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, here comes your average blackpiller, cherry picking facts from redpill and then painting it with lies like: TRP paints everyone with a broad brush and assumes that all guys are equal, when this is far from the case. I agree with almost all points you have stated. Redpillers are of course aware of them. So why the divide? It's the purpose. TRP is a sexual strategy forum focused of teaching you... well... how to maximise your potential on SMP. It's focused on things you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:44 PM
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That was a confident response. You're pretty confident in your "being boring" abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:22 AM
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I am dumbfounded that people in "redpill debating" subreddit still can't get a grasp of something as basic as "the wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:43 PM
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Nice BS. How men cheat more if that (simplifying) requires 1 man and 1 woman? Probably theoretically free carousel riding women compete for top 10% (or less) and those fellas snowball infidelity points. And I have seen women monkeybranch (or just run away) faster and easier during bad time. Either way "very ill" is an edge case of "bad time" where men run away more often and ofc that was cherry picked, or that's just another horseshit. Men, by evolution, are better and more reliable as life part…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:51 PM
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Selection bias is real indeed. BUT I am afraid we're dangerously close to argument "Don't mind women you have seen with your own eyes, you should date women that exist in my head". Wow thx mate, now could you kindly take those women from your head and put them into social places designated to meet people like festivals? All of us would be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:35 AM
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Haha, tell that to, for example, 32 yo woman with 4/5 score (or higher) from this website https://igotstandardsbro.com/ What else she can do? Pray for a miracle?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:39 PM
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"AWALT" is a counter-response for every "just find a girl that's not like the others!". Some characteristics are shared among all healthy, post puberty girls due to hundreds of thousands years of sexual selection & reproduction. Even if "Mr Perfect" evolves in woman's mind as time progress, AWALT still applies. Redpill is mostly a praxeology, backed heavly by evolutionary psychology. PUAs were hitting on late teens and older females (hmm I wonder why... \s) and collected data how women react and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:48 PM
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I doubt we will get good answers here, because in western world we don't have defined protocosl of meeting new romantic prospects besides dreaded online dating. Better question is how you met your SO or your ex(es) and why/how it escalated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:12 PM
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Sex object vs success object. It was always that way. "Treating like object" is a meaningless, hollow phase used by bluepillers when somebody doesn't buy to they romantic view. So nah, noone should be mad about that, people are mad because they realise how bad is the deal they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:03 PM
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I would be too resentful and likely never able to reconcile with this scenario myself. That's why you go for younger women if you're around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:35 PM
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I like how "I prefer tall men" is a preference, but "I don't want to be a retirement plan and get worse deal for higher price than men before me" is an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:30 PM
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You should always assume consent and slowly but graduately escalate, untill proven otherwise. "Can I touch you there now?", as you mentioned, is a terrible mood killer. Don't forget about LMR, but it rather takes a form of "slow down" or "I am not sure about that" rather than hard "NO". This is not hard unless you're severly autistic. When it comes to being legally covered/protected, in some parts of the world whatever you do is wrong, so your only surefire solutions are moving out or having sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:55 PM
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I see right now two people with red pill flair and this post allign with TRP. Where those "Red Pillers are saying otherwise" live? In your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:10 PM
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No, that was supposed to make you aware they will have oversupply of fresh flock and that's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:06 PM
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There are at least 10 bimbos waiting impatiently in the line for every woman that thinks your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:57 PM
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Influencing and powerful politician. Second best is IMO tier one pop/movie star.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:26 PM
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TRP talks a lot about men who aren't this "Chad" stereotype with muscles, tons of money, super tall, fancy car and lacks a harem of supermodels as if they are somehow lesser. Yes, they are... or rather we are lesser than top 0.1% people on sexual market that you described. So what? I'd even go so far as saying TRP doesn't even see these men as men either, despite accusations that women as a whole do not see such men as men. And this is just your own delusion. Redpill knowledge was never a requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:50 PM
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I've seen people criticising redpill, being corrected and then mentioning "no true scotsman" or "Motte-and-bailey" fallacy. In reality they have no idea what they're talking about. You cannot be a "trully redpiller" if you don't understand redpill. And you for sure don't understand redpill, if you "missed" parts like "do the work", "men bear the burden of performance" or "do you even lift?" If you want to waste some of your precious time you could interrogate/stalk some incels and you would disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:59 PM
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If incels were redpillers, probably 70% of them wouldn't be incels. As a "painter" is not somebody familiar with art, but someone who paints, IMO a "redpiller" should not be someone familiar with TRP teachings, but a guy that puts redpill in use.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:17 PM
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How's AWALT "not a red pill acronym"? Because it comes from somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:45 AM
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"femoid" is an incel term, has very little connection to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:41 AM
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? You don't have your partner count written on your forehead. Belonging incognito to socially disliked (not hated lol) group is difficult? If that's is one of your bigger problems, you should show fate some gratitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:15 AM
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Do you have any non-sexual, non-labor reasons to get into a relationship with a woman? Non-sexual intimacy and I want to have a family one day and I unfortunately need a woman for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:16 PM
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Eh, maybe for short term only, if she's decently looking, to gain preselection points in other women. In the long run no. I doubt it would be better than being single, relationship is a mixbag of costs and benefits and we enter this one already with heavy handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:09 PM
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Many MGTOWs are redpilled, they just decided to not play the game anymore. MGTOW is not a replacement, blackpill tries to replace it, but that's just a "purple pill gone really wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:01 PM
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How is being a male virgin difficult? You do nothing or do very little in that subject - you stay virgin. It's easier than being unemployed the whole life, since you need money to survive, and you don't need sex to stay alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:18 PM
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How prevalent is following fallacy: Create a stupid mental image of X Evaluate it "Oh no, it's retarded" Therefore, X is stupid, I have no idea how someone would belive it. I do wonder how many times I act unknowingly in similar way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:59 PM
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That's rare indeed, at least in western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:50 PM
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You and many black/purple pilled people have serious reading comprehension problem. The RP space seems to constantly spread the notion that women "hit the wall" around their 30s, where their options begin to run dry and they can no longer compete in the dating market for the "Chads" they attracted in their 20s. That's a proper definition of the wall. This idea that most single women are crying every night with their 7 cats about how they can't find a man at 30 is, again, an RP revenge fantasy. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:37 PM
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Oh wow, I've found someone voicing valid complains instead of personal delusions, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:44 AM
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I like your idea that some men are forced into celibacy by lack of or/and inability to attract women they deem worthy of sexual intercourse. Scenario above might be not super uncommon, but big chunk of sexless men would fuck anything that is willing and not atrocious. Don't forget that men posses higher sex drive and from biology perspective this is far less of a big deal for them. You could also spend couple of hour reading incels' forum or comments spread over internet if you don't believe me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:12 AM
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If sluts sleep with ANYONE then why we have growing demography of sexless men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:49 AM
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Yes but that's not misoginy nor women hating. The postmodernist word you're looking for there is likely "sexism".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:33 AM
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Thank you for confirming that TRP states nowhere that you should hate women (because, like, what's the point?) and people are just seeing things because they want to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:29 AM
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He proceeded to call his mother a whore and told me he enjoyed watching the decline of women and seeing them suffer. Who was shitposting to this degree if I might ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:22 AM
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Not "survey" but raw data from somewhat skewed environment. Still best science I've seen in that subject, compared to many "science" surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:17 PM
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No normal woman is atracted more to men in jail than "normal" men. However, vs "namby-pamby" men, vs men perceived as weak, submissive, effeminate or just lacking typical masculinity, jailed men on average attact way more female attention. Imagine yourself as a man: with unisex face, balding head, not too tall, but you have stable job and life and you're law-abiding. But you receive 0 female attention, and those jailed criminals with barbaric faces have stable stream of young females drooling ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:32 PM
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There is more: many redpilled people don't enjoy being redpilled at all. But redpill works, and things they would like to believe in, don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:25 PM
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I can't see how mentality "I have 16.5cm wrist, it's over for wristcels" would be able to win anything, even the cringe contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:25 PM
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I can still access TRP on Reddit + there are other places to visit, so no, that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:22 PM
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Fair point - but as I said, they're just trying to prove their point instead of trying of properly describe sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:31 AM
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Blackpill is a retarded subset of redpill knowledge. This "all studies and data" is cherry picked to prove their point of genetic determinism, everything else is ignored and thrown away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:50 PM
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Lots of stuff got archived in TRP.RED and other places. If you still cannot access "my oneitis article", just PM a user that still have an access to subreddit and you will get its content.
/r/askTRP27/09/18 08:06 PM
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Wow, this is an elementary school teacher's level of problem handling. "No no no, you're all wrong, be quiet, sit down and read this book about the-one-and-only-proper-view" "because I say so" "Because I am a leredditadmin teacher and you're just a child" Utterly lame.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 08:00 PM
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Instead of posting it here as a "revenge justice porn" content, it should be on RedPillWomen to remind young ladies to think thrice before they dump their non-alpha husbands. ...aaand that the clock is ticking.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/16 07:04 PM
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I used to lurk a bit MGTOW subreddit and they should rename it to "MGTAP - Men Going Through Anger Phase". Have fun guys, but this is not a content for me. But this whole post is just a wild Gronk shaming other males into certain behavior.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 08:49 PM
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99% of posts are complete garbage, filled with hate. You mistook the TRP subreddit with MGTOW one.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/16 03:30 PM
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Upvoted. If I could choose, this sub should be filled rather with bragging that "women are parasites" posts.
/r/MGTOW11/05/16 09:11 PM
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I am also no longer a 24 year old virgin, because I turned 25 a month ago lol. but not knowing what sex is drives a man crazy When you're older you get other problems than "I have yet to get laid". My life is now rather in a mess, so sex has very low priority on my list, compared to for example "stop being broke".
/r/TheRedPill13/02/16 10:35 PM
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This young man has no parents now. People are different... I cannot speak with 100% certainty, but If I had been in his shoes, I would have strongly considered killing a man that ruined my whole life.
/r/MGTOW13/02/16 03:42 AM
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I bet that SJWs think in the same way.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 09:46 PM
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Still better mindset than "just kill me know", at least you want to do something by yourself.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 08:40 PM
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Any reliable source that supports this extraordinary claim?
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 04:02 AM
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Many TRP readers need female validation, but that's a mistake and a bad habit, probably every "endorsed contributor" says so. Philosophy is almost the same, excluding fact that some guys want still play the game for personal profits, and the others say "fuck it, it's not worth it at all". If you think your choice is more "mature" or whatever, then you just don't understand second group good enough.
/r/MGTOW02/02/16 05:01 AM
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Stop circlejerking. Demanding resources from potencial LTR lies deeply in women's nature. This is not gold-digging, unless you put it at extreme. She can feel being tricked (although it is not a Will's problem whatsoever), her partner purposely hid his higher SMV and she has no clue "why". IMO Will is a bit delusional, trying to find a unicorn that doesn't value "men's virtues" like assets or competitiveness/ambition.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 11:43 PM
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Exactly this. OP is kinda right, but his whole post is just plainly anti-MGTOW.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/15 07:05 PM
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I can agree with everything... except that "lesson learned", it is just out of the place sometimes, especially when I see it in almost every post here. But a proper disclaimer is included... and without it i can see only 2 strict rules: give a short description before the main content and don't give just a link alone without anything (or only with short, shitty comment). This is really that restrictive?
/r/TheRedPill24/06/15 09:55 PM
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