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For sure. I'm just saying, there's nothing natural about that. It's socially constructed. There existed a time before this demonization and dehumanization of black men and the incredible insecurity within white masculinity were the norm. But we've been living with this norm for centuries now; it's become baked into the social fabric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 04:53 PM
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I don't know if white men are "naturally intimidated" by black masculinity so much as it's the case that generations of racial propaganda have portrayed black men as inherently dangerous and specifically as a threat to white women's purity and to white men's mastery of the world. The intimidation isn't natural, but socialized. It's taught, in order to rationalize and justify violence against black men and black people more broadly. So much racial anxiety among white folk is baked into every high…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 04:48 PM
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I mean, to some degree, toxic masculinity is seen as an internalization of expectations around the male gender role, which *could* be called internalized misandry, if the language of the gender discourse made room for misandry to be a recognized concept. But yeah, both examples are people of a given gender tearing down other people for not fulfilling their gender role in the expected way. Women tearing each other down for not putting in enough aesthetic labor, or not raising their children right…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/24 04:45 PM
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This is a common ruling class tactic, in many movements, and definitely took place in the second wave of feminism. Every identity based movement has a wing that has class politics, and a wing (usually much better funded) that tries everything it can to derail and obscure class politics. A big part of the 70s was this last gasp of militancy from the class in the form of the rank and file rebellions, prior to the capitalist counter offensive of the late 70s into the 80s. That counter offensive was…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 04:57 PM
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I mean, that may be a well and true criticism of idpol. It’s just not what happened to Occupy. I was there when the cops came in their riot gear and busted up the camps. They weren’t swinging copies of The Feminine Mystique or Whipping Girl. They were swinging billy clubs. That’s what broke Occupy- overwhelming state violence against a movement where most of the people had little experience combatting that kind of repression. The summit hopping veterans made up one militant core, and a heavily d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 03:19 PM
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I see this framing a lot that Occupy was wrecked by identity politics. I was involved in Occupy and I have to disagree. The idpol was there and was sometimes frustrating, but it didn’t destroy the movement. I don’t know why people keep having this idea that it collapsed from within. Occupy was destroyed in a multi state police and FBI crackdown with camp clearances and entrapment cases. They did that because it wasn’t collapsing from within, but growing and becoming more solid in its goals. It h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 12:37 PM
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(cont) There's a lot of other weird, idiosyncratic stuff that seems to be done mostly by middle class white women activists in our metro. This includes putting a bunch of therapy language into organizing conversations, focusing on policing the vibes inside the group more than on doing the work the group was formed to do, derailing plans for actions to try to refocus everything on care and self-care (self care is great, but we are trying to plan a march! Please!), a lot of what I'd call performat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 02:08 AM
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I would indeed say that the most hostile interactions I have with women on the left, tend to be with young white women who basically treat me as a stand-in for the things they want to say to their father and who start the whole interaction from a place of serious skepticism, anger, and resentment. The dynamics around this are, however, a little more complex than just saying it's feminism. Part of it is that as a blue collar man who works in blue collar workplaces, I come across as blue-collar in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 02:05 AM
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(...cont) Another time, a women's caucus formed in an organization I was in. I welcomed its formation, as I generally welcome the formation of caucuses of different groups in an org. In my experience it is usually healthy to have a caucus, and they tend to be really important at outreach for the community they represent, as well as crucial in bringing forward problems they have with the org so they don't fester. This caucus was all tangled up in a terrible identitarian game with the POC caucus, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 11:11 PM
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Answering as a lurker, not someone who strongly identifies as part of this sub's community. I've been following men's issues and activism for years, as someone who is supportive of some aspects of the movement and critical of others (especially of the right-wing manosphere). Personally, I've been in left spaces that had a very strong sense of camaraderie and mutual support, and a lot of those ties are still with me. I did a lot of my organizing in majority-male industries as a worker. I did a lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 11:10 PM
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It’s wild how many people rightfully condemn one and then support the other
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/24 02:16 AM
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That’s not intersectionality. It’s standpoint epistemology. Intersectionality is about how people experiencing multiple forms of marginalization can have experiences that are emergent from that combination. The classic example, which Kimberle Crenshaw used, was talking about the experiences of black women in the workplace- being fired for “unprofessional hairstyles” or for expressing anything but warm loving affection and being seen as an “angry black woman”. Crenshaw was a lawyer and was writin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/24 02:07 AM
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That’s the argument TERFs use against trans women, though. That they were socialized as men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/24 01:57 AM
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Well, yes, traditional gender roles upheld by conservatives instrumentalize working class men for our ability to do labor and violence, and treats as defective those men who are not as useful at labor and violence as the system requires them to be. Men under capitalism and the state are raised to be workers and soldiers, and much of the emotional repression, tough guy bullshit, and demand that we be willing to suffer without complaint, are part and parcel of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 09:06 PM
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Sure, it's a long standing stereotype that American college girls come back from Europe raving about how romantic and sensual European men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:36 AM
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Men of all sorts of social classes are having sex. Not always as much of it as they'd want, and not always with the women they'd love to in their best fantasies, and not all of it great sex, but overall, it's not as if men just aren't having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:33 AM
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