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Yeah, if they committed beastiality, that matters. If they had sex with a lot of hot guys before meeting you, that doesn't matter. Grow up and get confident in yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:31 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with your head? I clearly wasn't referring to those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:14 AM
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Yes like I would never date someone who did anything pro-nazi. But it is unreasonable to be disgusted because they had sex with other people in their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:59 PM
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I don't want them to be anything. I want them to be themselves and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:40 PM
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How does that logic mean that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:33 AM
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No a ton of people aren't. Anyone who thinks women have to be a certain way is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:42 PM
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If doing this would weed out all the creepy sexist guys like you and all the others who have problem with it, it would be wise to do this first and then be subtle with the cool guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:05 PM
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Not if he's cool and funny and charming. I joke sexually with hot girls all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:03 PM
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Yeah for worthy non-misogynist guys like you. For confident cool charming guys, confident funny girls are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:44 PM
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Only if he's a creepy prude who isn't okay with a girl being herself. In which case that guy is fine to walk away from forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:35 PM
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This is great and it's upsetting this isn't the top comment and some misogynistic line is instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:11 PM
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Nothing wrong with promiscuous vibes. Stop being so prude. Women are allowed to show their ankles now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:10 PM
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No it's to be a creepy misogynist that abuses women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:54 AM
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Yes to your third to last paragraph. There are no tricks. Just be yourself and treat other people well in a fun way. And don't "run game" on women.
/r/seduction26/12/19 07:04 AM
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I had never heard of the other sub before. This sub is creepy. Referring to people as "alpha" and "beta" is really pathetic and simplistic.
/r/seduction26/12/19 06:38 AM
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This whole sub is gross. You don't need tricks to pick up girls. Just fucking talk to them like people.
/r/seduction26/12/19 06:24 AM
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You're an incel. I don't think you have the slightest clue what women want.
/r/seduction26/12/19 05:49 AM
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Women should be incels with the way boys are. At least until they behave better
/r/seduction25/12/19 11:31 PM
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Why do you seek them out? Why do you seek out if women are wealthier than men? Why do you feel the need to prove something about one gender over the other? That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:33 PM
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I agree, I'm doing that and I'm scared what you described is happening (in regards to racism) as a natural result of continued racism. I tell these people too, being racist back doesn't solve anything, it escalates things. Be against all racism, no matter from/toward who. For that path to not be taken naturally by the oppressed, the people still continuing jokes or stereotypes or grabbing their purses closer need to cut it out and stop being bigoted ASAP. Just because the worst of it happened be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:19 PM
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Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:53 PM
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No because misogyny is not acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:52 PM
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No you have no clue about relationships. You don't have single solid connection with a woman in your life. And that's sad, because women are amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:51 PM
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Yes the incel back at it, gotta make sure mens rights are talked about more than women. You are wrong. Women were seen as babymakers and cleaners, and I'm pretty sure they still are to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:50 PM
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No but just like racism, certain hateful beliefs are passed down in families, shared in more closed off communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:49 PM
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The source isn't the problem. The problem is that these people seek out and believe those sources. They want to. It's a personal thing and that's what needs to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:59 AM
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Well it's because I don't know where the hell these people got the idea women have more wealth than men. Actually I do know where: red pilled misogynistic sources. And the fact that these men think that's somehow some awful, evil thing that women have more money is the same attitude that would lead to someone killing women for wronging him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:37 AM
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Correct, because otherwise, it will never be equal. If you start treating people on an unlevel playing field equally, that doesn't level the playing field. You have to give the oppressed a boost, with help from everyone, to make the playing fields even. Then equality can truly occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:34 AM
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I would never say you have a problem finding partners because, unlike OP and others here who clearly do, you don't write paragraphs about how women suck and have always had it easier than men and ruin men's lives. Incels are very easy to spot on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:30 AM
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He was not robbing the bank. "He's probably just encountered a lot of bad girls" was probably his justification for doing it and it's sick that you just said it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:47 AM
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A man shot and killed 5 random women in the head in a bank last week. Misogyny is the fuel of many serial killers. Their evil beliefs musn't go unchallenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:21 AM
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Chivalry was sexist itself. Why couldnt women do their own shit, fight for their country themselves, do the hard work? Because they were deemed too weak. No not disagrees with me, has an antagonistic view of women And you very clearly do. See you didn't even try to explain it, just skipped right to the men. Precisely my point. Women don't matter at all to you. You can't pay their issues any mind without saying "Well men...". Yes, a brilliant response to "why couldnt women vote until 99 years ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:38 PM
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Women were house cleaners, clothes folders, cooks and baby makers and that's it. While men were the kings, the knights, the ones who did the work needed to be done, the ones who got to decide who they fucked and married. You are not thinking from a real view of how things were. Just because you hate yourself now for being so bad with women doesn't mean women suddenly were the powerful ones for all of history. Your bitter blue balls don't get to rewrite how things were. If what you say is the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:29 PM
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but one of the biggest difference between the two, is that society recognizes problems that women face, and works to fix those problems You realize that's really new, right? Women's problems were ignored and dismissed and laughed at for all of history. Now that's finally changing, and you and many men are freaking out saying "what about us".. damn give them a god damn couple decades of growth to level the playing field before saying "they have everything now, what about men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:07 PM
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Are you insane? Women haven't even had the right to vote in this country for 100 years. It was hard as hell to get that and 96 years later, an extremely qualified woman candidate for president gets easily dismissed as too tired and too bitchy by an extremely unqualified man who himself is way too bitchy. Any power you perceive is from your bitter blue balls and listening to pissed off men. Listen to pissed off women instead some more for a change of perspective. Men have controlled society for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:00 PM
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Cool I hope you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:22 AM
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That's not how love works. You wouldn't understand as emotions are abstract to you. I feel bad for you. They're a beautiful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:29 PM
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You think love only exists in films? I feel truly bad for you. Gain some empathy and emotions man. They make life way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:28 PM
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The fact that they were married at all is a special thing that implies it. To non-misogynists, marriage is a big deal requiring love and intimacy, empathy and care. You can only understand it as some chick you bang for the rest of your life and make kids with, so you can't fully understand. Empathy is a beautiful thing man. Gain some.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:30 AM
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How would anyone know the specifics of their relationship besides them? I don't use the word misogynist lightly. I use it to call out misogynists, of which there are many in the world and on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:02 AM
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You clealry haven't. And you clearly don't understand what love is. It's a powerful thing. Go make friends and relations with people just for the joy of it without thinking about what you get out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:13 PM
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Relationships are based on "feels." You should try getting some sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:14 PM
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No it's not. I don't know the specifics of their relationship, but I know for non misogynists, wives are an important part of a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:13 PM
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No...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:22 AM
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Wow a homophobe. You suck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:14 AM
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I think you haven't had enough genuine connections with humans
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:09 AM
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No you mean you have no empathy and can't imagine a situation from another person's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:56 AM
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No... but she is the one he loved and chose. How is that a hard concept for you to grasp? Oh yeah because sociopaths don't know love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:56 AM
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How do you know? How do you know he didn't go home doubting himself everyday and everyday she told him he could do it and she loved him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:55 AM
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Ugh you are such a gross misogynist. And why can't you comprehend what love is. He didn't pick just any woman. She wasn't interchangeable because he loved her. To non-misogynists, women matter more than just for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:58 AM
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No it's not. Imagine you're a lonely sad guy who doesn't get sex (not a very hard thing for you to imagine). Now imagine a girl thinks you're so smart and believes in your ideas and dreams and tells you constantly, and then she blows you and fucks you. You're gonna feel a little more confident about yourself right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:49 AM
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But I agreed they deserve it lol Just like she deserves it for helping make him the man he is, the man that was able to make a successful company and billions of dollars. You sound like you've never experienced a woman loving you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:44 AM
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But he didn't have a connection that inspired him with just any woman like he did with her. And yes, and I guarantee he sends plenty of money to his parents lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:37 AM
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But he wouldn't be a multi-billionaire without her, so she deserves part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:25 AM
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He wouldn't have been the successful man he was without her by his side supporting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:19 AM
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Maybe he wouldn't have the confidence or will without all the many blowjobs and sex and beautiful moments they shared along the way. You never know how a SO contributes to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:15 AM
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Unintelligent for believing his words and thinking his terrible words and behaviors are fit for office. As I said, his very first speech announcing his campaign he said most Mexicans coming here are murderers thieves and rapists. That should have been the end of him. The fact that his support grew after that proves his supporters are sociopaths who lack empathy and intelligence. Bad, bigoted people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:01 PM
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Yes I just gave a brief list in my last comment. You didn't read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:33 PM
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trump sounds younger than a teenager every time he talks. I hate trump for that reason. I hate him because he lies about everything, including stupid things like that he has the best words and his inauguration crowd was the biggest. I hate him because he insults people like crazy but then gets mad when someone insults him. I hate him because he doesn't listen to intelligence agencies that are there literally to help America. And I especially hate him because he began his campaign saying most Mex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:17 PM
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I don't give refunds
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:12 PM
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Not over half the population. 45% at most. They are the meanest, most selfish people in this country. Would it be okay to be mean to nazis? They're not the same, but these are really bad people. I try to love everyone, and when these people supported and voted for trump they showed they believe in the opposite of loving people. It's really hurtful and I'm not going to let this country get controlled by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:30 PM
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In 0 threads that I am part of in this post did money or wealth come up once. Good to show you pay attention and don't just stick to your talking points tho! Yes, the people of this country that voted for the worst president of all time because they wanted to make "the libtards cry" are not likeable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:23 PM
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At one point did I ever mention women caring about money? Everyone cares about money. You have an enemy pre-planned in your head that you are responding to instead of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:01 PM
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If they're trump supporters, then yes. Also racism and not wanting to lose "white power" to scary "brown people" was his main message that he ran on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:57 PM
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trump supporters are. It's as simple as that. Nobody with basic intelligence and critical thinking skills would believe that bullshitting incoherent asshole, let alone think he's right for POTUS. And I don't think of things by skin color. That's what racists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:47 PM
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I can empathize with people with differing viewpoints. That's how in my first post here, I deduced that this guy is projecting and is a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:43 PM
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Kind of like Stockholm syndrome. Sad but doesn't change the fact that they are the most unintelligent people there are. Completely lack empathy. 100% selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:40 PM
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Work on your manner for the future. And accepting the rest of what you said, the key part is that they lack empathy and guilt. They feel no care for the emotions of other people. It doesn't matter what studies say; that makes a bad relationship partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:39 PM
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It's just revealing about himself. He is a misogynist projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:37 PM
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I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:25 PM
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It's not. But 50 year olds shouldn't be bashing 50% of 50 year olds. It literally makes no sense. He's clearly projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:24 PM
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You just dropped the word normies in your scientific explanation. You lost your credibility. Empathy is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:23 PM
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I do have emotional depth. I also despise trump supporters for the obvious reasons. They are the most unintelligent people there are and completely lack empathy. 100% selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:22 PM
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Empathy and emotions are very powerful. I implore you to get some. Really open up the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:20 PM
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Love and relationships aren't a science based thing; they're emotion based and if you approach them on science, you're gonna have a baad tiime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:19 PM
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Why does it matter? Why not just meet the two individual people who are unique to all 8 billion other people. "General trends" make you not get to know someone for who they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:18 PM
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You personally. You can't tell what another person loves. That's ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:36 AM
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Do you ever base things off of meeting people and emotions instead of just studies. Love and relations aren't supposed to be studies-based. They're emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:31 AM
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No you werent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:14 AM
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You are a sociopath. Don't speak for all men. I have tons of emotions and I love them. Makes life beautiful. Even small details. I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:07 AM
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General trends do not exist. There are 8 billion people in this world. Go meet people and just live life instead of living by some set of rules you think exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:01 AM
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The sex drive is predominantly based on reproduction For sociopaths with no emotion or interest in emotion. You clearly are one. Emotions are good and fun. You should aim to gain some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:40 AM
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They're not the same thing AT ALL. Everyone ages. It's stupid to think less of someone. Now maybe you dont want to bang them personally but don't say they're incapable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:25 AM
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Have you ever heard the term "MILF"? You are straight up full of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:24 AM
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Various different people but through introspection and self-reflection, I have mostly healed and seek to help other people. The question is who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:21 AM
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What's hilarious about that very simple obvious truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:20 AM
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I'm a man and personality is the most attractive thing for me. Makes or breaks a truly hot woman. Can she have fun, talk about real shit and joke around, about herself and others. Some boring girl with great tits is boring with great tits. Gets old fast... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:11 AM
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"they had their chance" is misogynist. ​ Women don't find short men gross. It's an attraction preference. I'm a short guy who's been rejected for it countless times. It's her choice. Plenty of other girls don't have a problem with it. Also, that's not the topic being discussed. You're deflecting because your bitterness about your height is the cause of your misogyny. You gotta not be mad at women for it man. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 07:09 AM
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Damn you are a real bitter misogynist. Old women "had" their chance? What the fuck? They're still people. Men become the same age as old women. Why is it fair for a 50 year old man to think 50 year old women are gross? That's like being mad that time and aging are concepts that everyone goes through together. So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:55 AM
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He doesn't like old women (which most men don't) That is not true. You're revealing about yourself right now. Also, he's their age. Everyone ages. It's not an attractivity thing or feature. People don't change height naturally the same way. Not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:59 AM
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He's projecting his personal taste onto a huge group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:50 AM
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"women over 50 are too old to love" is some misogynistic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:16 AM
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What he's really saying is he hates himself and is unable to love but he is a bitter misogynist who is projecting that on women. Classic misogynist move.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:01 AM
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What? and lol you love me or something.
/r/MGTOW18/03/18 03:50 PM
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That's how i feel when I hear one of her funny quotes. She's so cool.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 05:21 AM
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The first one. 100% only the first one.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 04:53 AM
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Are you laughing at all the millions she has and the ability to do whatever she wants or your own super cool life?
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 03:30 AM
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Shes an excellent actress. She dropped out of school to follow her dream and became very successful at it. That's respectful. She was already famous from very big movies before working with Weinstein, but even if she did do that, that's using the fucked up rules of society for her advantage. Because of her fame and power, she has a voice and she's using it for good for all. And she's not afraid to be herself. She's a great inspiration.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 03:22 AM
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Nope just a normal, respectful person. She's an icon and I have a lot of respect for her.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 02:18 AM
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She has an amazing soul. You're a jealous dick.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 01:24 AM
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You're* everything is harder when you can't spell
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 01:23 AM
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Damn lol what kinda shit did you say that got you banned?
/r/ExRedPill19/10/17 07:34 PM
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A sociopath doesn't have feelings and this can't care about the feelings of others. They may know murder is wrong, but they'll never be able to understand why. They'll never know how the victims family will feel. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:48 AM
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Alright have a good life man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:27 AM
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I am not, but I am right about the word implying sexism and not knowing anyone of that sex thing. You commenting back so much implies you also care a lot about what I'm saying, probably because you're guilty of this and you don't want to think about how I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:37 PM
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Nah I care about people being respected and I hate sexism, passionately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:46 AM
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Yes people that aren't sociopaths have feelings. Feelings are good. You should get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:27 AM
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Yeah that's bullshit and backwards. All I'm saying is that if you believe that shit and use that word or aren't sure about which word to use, it's clear you don't know people of that gender well and don't talk personally with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:24 AM
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Did I say that? No I didn't. Not that it matters, but my best friend is Mexican and a lot of my friends through him are Mexican. Don't pretend to know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:17 AM
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I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:16 AM
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Women is standard and never not appropriate, except when talking about girls, who are literally just young women, and that should be easy to tell, and when it gets harder to tell, just pick on of the two because at that age, they're the same. You don't have to please anyone - women and girl, man and boy - will always be fine, just respect people more than just calling them a "female" or "male"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:12 AM
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Nope, I just act like myself and myself is influenced by the people around me/who I hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:09 AM
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I don't care what you say about it dude. I never view someone differently because of their skin color. I get to know all people the same because everyone has a different personal story that makes them uniquely who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:02 AM
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No. It's can't just be compared to anything. It's about these words and respecting someone as a person vs only caring about their body and biological functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 03:01 AM
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I am not. I am white, but that doesn't matter other than the privilege I've gotten because of it. I have friends of all different ethnicities, races, nationalities. I don't judge people by how they look on the outside, because that shit don't matter. I love talking to people and getting to know who they are on the inside. I call out racism and sexism whenever I can because that shit is evil and needs to be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 02:46 AM
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I am not racist. You are that's why you brought up skin color as though it matters at all. It doesnt. Anyone who uses it is as a noun when not related to statistics or science is a little sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 02:38 AM
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"Girls and women" are the words for female humans. Every species has female members. Only humans have girls, women, boys and men. When you just use those terms, you show that you don't care about the many specific, intricate things that make humans unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:03 AM
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"Girls and women" are the words for female humans. Every species has female members. Only humans have girls, women, boys and men. When you just use those terms, you show that you don't care about the many specific, intricate things that make humans unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 01:02 AM
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You don't know people well, is what that means. And you're right I guess most people aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:08 AM
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No more strange and sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:49 PM
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I'm not. It is. It implies you only view women as their biological makeup and not as diverse, interesting human people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:31 PM
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Nah, it's clear from the fact that you use that word instead of girls or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:21 PM
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You are a sexist pathetic who doesn't know any women well. That's what you using the word "females" like that tells everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:02 PM
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Very simple - the Internet telling everyone how to do anything instantly and rich parents who worked hard for their money (or not) spoiling their kids. Not a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:30 AM
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That's mean and petty. Go your own way to better yourself for you. Harboring resentment for all women for that long is extremely pathetic and mentally unhealthy. That shit makes you low-tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:40 AM
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So then it's weird that you wouldn't want to date her because of that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:06 AM
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It's weird that you think a woman being independent means that. Not needing to depend on a man does not equal not being able to commit to or support one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:29 PM
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Because what's wrong with dating a strong woman who loves herself and wants to improve and do well in her career?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:27 PM
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How the fuck is getting ahead in your career not supporting your partner and your family??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:26 PM
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Why not? That's weird as hell of you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:57 AM
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Yeah, you're wrong. About a lot of that.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/17 07:45 PM
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You have problems
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:39 AM
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Benadryl makes me sleep happy. That thought is just an obvious truth that people who know women well know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:42 AM
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No there isn't. It's just liking sex. Bitter, sad, jealous people call it being a slut because they're bitter, sad and jealous that they don't get as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:44 PM
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No what I described is the way things should be. What you described is the reason there are too many kids without fathers to support them and their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:29 AM
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No giving your seed to one woman to reproduce so you can provide the best life possible for your offspring is the biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:57 AM
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Wtf? "spreading the seed is the priority" only for strange, perverse men. Most men don't think of that as a priority. They just want sex cuz it feels good. Same as women. But it's easier for men to have good feeling sex. Women need to be aroused and pleasured in the right places so it's harder for them - not just anyone can do it, like you said. That's the only difference. But other than that, everyone of all genders just want good-feeling sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:47 AM
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Good sex feels good. It's a simple as that. There's nothing quite like a sexual orgasm, and it's better when done with someone else you're attracted to, no matter which gender you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:30 AM
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I have no idea what you mean after your first sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:02 AM
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Well yeah that's the double standard problem a lot of these red pill high "n count" hating boys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 10:25 PM
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I don't like know you. Why is that rich coming from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:17 PM
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I'm here to defend sex. Because everyone wants it. So why would you act like it's bad that some people get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:37 PM
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No men can also have sex with whoever they want, same as women, and no one should judge other people's sexual partner count. It's nobody's business but your own and it shouldn't affect anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:27 PM
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I'm a man. I just respect women and that includes not giving a fuck who they choose themselves to have sex with..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:03 PM
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If a girl had a lot of sex because she likes sex (who can blame her) but she didn't get paid for it by random Johns, how is she a prostitute? She's not, you're just a bitter insecure misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:45 PM
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Fine take out the "real". Men don't give a fuck. Insecure boys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:43 PM
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Men don't care about the "n count" at all. Only insecure boys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:45 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:50 AM
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That must be a joke right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 07:25 PM
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Lol I don't need to prove shit to you. Just because you don't believe stuff due to your very narrow mind does not make something impossible. Dude, I'm 5'6/7" and I don't let my height stop me with girls. Of course it isn't always what girls want, but it never stops me from trying because it's the height I have, nothing I can do about it, and I have more to offer than my height/looks and I know that. But hell dude, if I was your height, I would kill it with women. You could too, but your problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:11 PM
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You're blaming women for rejecting you. You can't get mad at someone for being attracted to who they're attracted to. It's your responsibility to be attractive if you want to meet her standards. I, personally, have used charm personality and humor to get girls way hotter than me and I do not have those looks. Once you stop blaming women and try to work with them, try to get to know them individually, as more than just sex objects, it really makes everything easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:57 PM
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You're pathetic for blaming your problems on anyone/thing but you. It's only real to you because you believe in it so much. Calm down and treat women like they're people, because surprise surprise, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:19 AM
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Agreed. That guy is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:46 AM
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Women don't hate misogynists Wow that's the new stupidest thing I've ever read on Reddit. Are you fucking kidding me? By the definition of what misogyny is, of course women hate misogynists.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/16 01:14 PM
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No maybe it's just your opinions that are the problems. (They are). My opinions won't hurt girls feelings if I'm honest about them. You're just struggling with being a misogynist (Women HATE misogynists)
/r/ExRedPill04/08/16 12:42 PM
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No that's extremely misogynistic. Women are the same as men in regards to how you talk to them. Only your sexist beliefs limit how you think you can talk to women. Disagree with them, who gives a fuck. People respect you more if you stand by what you believe, regardless of if a girl agrees.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/16 03:23 AM
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I enjoy intellectual conversation too. And so do many women, so for them, good intellectual conversation will make them smile. Talking to them like regular people will often make them smile alone. It doesn't just have to be jokes.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/16 02:40 AM
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Yes because it's not game. It's just regular ol' treating people well and wanting them to be happy and enjoying life. RP takes regular things and turns them into sociopathic ideas with other names. Don't think so much about it.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/16 02:26 AM
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Ignore everything RedPill has said. Making girls laugh and smile is key among all else. Do those things and it doesn't matter how you look or how rich you are. Just know when to leave a girl alone if she's not feeling you (but I guarantee at least one will).
/r/ExRedPill02/08/16 11:24 PM
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And you and all those people don't understand what genuine friendship is. Genuine friendship isn't pretending to be friends with someone because you want to fuck them. That's fucked up and mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:13 PM
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No the guy is, not the woman. She's not "friendzoning" anyone on purpose. She just doesn't want to be in a relationship or fuck you. Nothing wrong with that. It's the guys problem that he can't accept moving past her or accepting genuine friendship with her. All the guys fault in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 11:11 PM
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You are genuinely oblivious to what real friendship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 02:45 AM
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Cool glad it helped
/r/seduction08/07/16 03:22 PM
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Are you being serious or sarcastic?
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:17 PM
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Do you want a girl who hates that you play videogames and watch porn (or whatever you like to do) and makes you stop all the time? Then pretend you're someone else who doesn't do that stuff. Or would you rather be with a girl who is cool with what you like and what you do? Well then be that person always and every girl that meets you will be meeting the real you, so if she likes you, it's no trick; she likes you for who you are. And that's the easiest thing in the world then.
/r/seduction08/07/16 12:49 PM
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Yeah I've heard other assholes say that before. You could also just be a nice person to everyone instead of being an asshole.
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:35 AM
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No cuz the only way you'll find a girl who likes that you do that stuff is if you "be yourself".
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:34 AM
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It’s too bad that treating a woman well can result in a negative outcome, but is there a way to treat a woman like gold without suffering the consequences of “the typical nice guy?” Yes. Treat her well just to be nice and helpful, not just with the hope of getting sex (or anything) in return. Being nice to be nice makes one a genuine nice/good person. Being nice to get something in return makes one a "nice guy"TM shitty person.
/r/seduction08/07/16 02:29 AM
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Nah I'm a good boy who does what he wants. Pretty shocking you can be both!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:42 PM
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The only way a guy doesn't want to have sex with someone he finds attractive is if he has literally been lobotomised. Yeah maybe an immature teen guy. A real man knows what self-control and friendship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:39 PM
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Many men only view women as things for sex. It's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:34 PM
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Someone who you end up not respecting is the same as someone who I never respected in the first place. But how the fuck can you not respect someone before meeting/knowing them personally? That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:20 PM
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developing your social skills and becoming a good conversationalist is key for having good game with women. This is all that is needed for guys who have trouble with girls. Your whole subreddit is a waste with tons of things that aren't this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:18 PM
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Shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 07:26 PM
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The point is, if you are really a nice person, you shouldn't need to tell people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 07:17 PM
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I can probably count the people in my life whom I respect on two hands. Those are the people who truly inspire me in life, and who have earned my respect by leading exemplary lives. See I respect everyone, all people, to start because you never know what anyone is really like. A complete stranger or someone you don't know very well, well you might wind up close with them later and realize they lead an exemplary life, you just didn't know before you met them. That's why I respect all people until…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:13 AM
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I think boys are taught that "feelings are gay" and so they are afraid to really let them out and speak from their heart. Maybe it's just me, but it's easy for me to do that and it feels great having an open conversation with someone about both of our feelings. It's not idealistic to me because it's reality. I like to open up. People who would think I'm ugly, awkward or uncool know more about who I am and my life and they like me. They tell me about themselves and bonds grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:52 PM
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I didn't say you'd get a pat on the head or whatever from people for it... I said you'd get positive responses from people. Like for example, a hot girl might be friendly toward you when you thought she'd never talk to you. My rule for respect is: everyone deserves respect, except for the people who don't respect others. If I don't like what someone does then I'm not going to respect them. That's fair, but you should start out respecting them. Take away respect when people show they don't deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:46 PM
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Yes, there are very real differences. But a lot of the stuff TRP says is not true. Tell me, what differences are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:36 PM
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Why? Who are you to judge who gets respect? If I went out respecting everyone as a matter of course it would be meaningless. It wouldn't be meaningless actually. You'd feel really good about yourself and you would notice a lot of positive responses from people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:13 PM
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Yeah but Step 1 is all about how you're not attractive enough and it's your fault. My point was that it's not about how you look to her - well obviously that's important but she did already marry you - it's about how you make her feel. Step 1 should be changed from realizing it's your fault because you're not attractive enough for her to "Realize it's your fault because you aren't making her feel, good, loved, sexy, etc enough." She already married you. She agreed to be with your looks for life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:10 PM
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Yeah the stuff you said there sounds good. You've gotten a lot of good out of it. It makes me want to high five you instead of punch you, but here's the kicker. Do you believe all the negative stuff they say about women on there, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 08:01 PM
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I don't have all the answers. That's my point; no one has all the answers that can help YOUR problems. YOUR relationship. Have you ever questioned a woman in your relationship why she feels the way she does? Yes I have. And when she said "I don't know" or "nothing," I pressed. I told her how I feel, and I made it seem that how she feels is important to me, because in a relationship, it should be. I got her to open up to me, tell me how she felt. And then we had good sex. Another time she opened …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:50 PM
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Why did she marry you if you're that unattractive to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:42 PM
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As I said, I'm a straight guy. And I've realized that they are in fact everywhere. And I can't do anything about it, but I've noticed that I can connect with and sometimes attract women better than they can because I can have good conversations with them as people. I'm friends with one girl, who's a few years older than me. I met her through work and now we're friends. She's had a boyfriend for 5 years, since college. I've only known her for about 2 years, but now I know her boyfriend and I've c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:36 PM
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This certainly applies to that to. When was the last time you tried some new and interesting foreplay?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:15 PM
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how to improve all aspects of your relationship based upon the differences between genders You can't study the differences between the genders on a whole to determine how to fix your relationship. You have to study YOUR relationship. What differences do you and she have? TRP has all this stuff in one place because a lot of it is hooplah. You simply can't base your relationship off the differences between men and women everywhere. Doing that is literally ignoring the specific problems in your rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:14 PM
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No, but you can say things that make them happy that remind them they love you. Also, a key thing about attraction is foreplay. You can be ugly and still turn a girl on with the right kisses and sensual touches, some blows behind her ear. You gotta turn her on for sex. Foreplay is the best part of sex for many women. It turns them on and gets them wet and hot. It's not about how you look; it's about how you make her feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:10 PM
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That's not true. The only thing that differentiates TRP from other self-help sources (and there are plenty better ones written by professionals) is the misogyny on the sidebar. No other self-help anything would have that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:56 PM
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That's not true. The only thing that differentiates TRP from other self-help sources (and there are plenty better ones written by professionals) is the misogyny on the sidebar. No other self-help anything would have that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:56 PM
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It's been a long time since I read the sidebar material. Last time I read it, it was basically a primer on putting yourself first, which is something a vast majority of folks in the Western World need to work on. I mean, I guess it could be viewed as misogyny Stop there. Stop comparing it to what women do. It is misogyny and it's bad. And it's really bad that kids looking for some self-esteem with women are told to read that shit first. It gets in their heads and they start believing it. It turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:41 PM
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Yeah but the problem is you should be talking to her during all of it, not just the "talking stage" - each "stage" should have open and honest communication throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:29 PM
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Yeah that would be fine, if the mandatory readings on the sidebar didn't encourage and straight up give out those beliefs in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:27 PM
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Exactly. So it's not TRP. This is basic stuff that any person could have told you at some point in life. You just happened to read it there first. Don't think they have some magic truth. They're not special at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:03 PM
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Yeah that's my point. I'm asking you if there is criticism of that stuff on TRP, or are you just talking about criticism from outside the sub, like on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:01 PM
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You can't learn to be social from a website. You just learn from being social. It's one of those things. How can a subreddit tell you what all women like and dislike, what they fear, etc? It can't because it doesn't know all women. But I talk to women. I get to know them. I can tell you those things and more deep things, like sexual patterns, about specific women, not all of them. I can use what I've learned when talking to other women, but I never assume all women are the same. And I'm sorry yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:27 PM
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On TRP itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:22 PM
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You needed a subreddit to figure that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:11 PM
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We want to foster places for people to feel safe expressing their emotions or opinions. Unless it's anger, or negative opinions of women. But those are two main emotions and opinions that are safely expressed...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:10 PM
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It doesn't matter if you hate women and think they're inferior children who shouldn't vote or be allowed to tie their own shoes Yes it does matter!!! Have some goddamn respect for the people you fuck, for the people you want to fuck so bad. If you do X, they fuck you. If you do Y, they don't. The Red Pill works! It's not out to be some kind of healthy, non-toxic, positive, you-go-guy movement. It's guys discussing sexual strategy and shitting on women. That sounds like a rapist-training camp to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:09 PM
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See that's exactly your problem dude. the standard "blue pill" way There is no standard "blue pill" way! It's just a bunch of people who have empathy and understand how to socialize with people well because of it. We want you to learn empathy. Once you do, you'll find your own "way" and you'll be disgusted with TRP. It's so much easier with empathy, it really is. I'm talking to like 6 girls right now just because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:06 PM
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Yeah but TRP seems to be heavy shit. My point before was TRP should try to ween out the crazies. They dont make you guys look good or strong, they make you look like insane criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:03 PM
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But if you were in a position of power in the feminist movement, wouldn't you want to try to silence, distance yourself from or change the minds of those people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:54 PM
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Yeah it says don't commit crimes, but it makes them want to because of the hate they're getting from it. Keep talking about how shitty women deserve bad things and laughing about it, but hey don't act on those urges... it doesn't really matter when they have the urges anyway. That's the problem. You're the ones making extreme feminists say "be careful of all men, they might be rapists" because you're talking about this stuff. How is any reasonable woman or person not supposed to be scared by tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:53 PM
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Yes, that girl compares to TRP. But not the whole feminist movement. Just people like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:47 PM
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If none of that sidebar women reading material is there, yeah it would be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:10 PM
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I'm not the one who said that dude. I don't treat the people I'm trying to have sex with like they're children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:08 PM
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We do. That's what empathy is. That's why we're all here trying to get through to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:56 PM
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yes most women are like children and I get the best results by treating them as such So you admit that you get the best sex when you're treating it like you're having sex with a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:55 PM
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You mean like what TRP does to women???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:51 PM
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Some TRPers probably do in fact dislike women, just as some feminists do in fact dislike men. Wow it's not even close. You can't just fucking admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:51 PM
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It will be just as insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:48 PM
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The core ideas are the problem dude. You're talking about all the anti-women stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:48 PM
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But the red pill encourages them to have that attitude, so isn't it part of their bigger problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:46 PM
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You think TRP helps you, but it doesn't. It makes you a shitty person. We care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:45 PM
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Feminists aren't saying dumb things like TRP does. I know this is unpopular here, but feminism is actually a good thing, trying to benefit and advance a group of people. TRP spreads bad information and lies as the truth to it members and makes them bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:42 PM
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Even if it's just in your head, it's dangerous and bad shit dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:17 AM
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Don't group feminism and rp like that. They're not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:14 AM
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They're not equal socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:06 AM
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objectifying men doesn't matter because of patriarchy. No, objectifying men doesn't matter because you like it. As you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:13 AM
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The issue isn't what's better for kids The issue is that a woman should choose what she wants to do, be it work, stay at home, or do something else entirely. women aren't supposed to stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:18 AM
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Nah but why you trying to fucking make it about men? They have their own issue and you're like "men have it bad too!" They didn't have it as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:15 AM
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It's cookoo for 2015 America.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:03 PM
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I recognize the horseshit society around me but I'm still also a decent human.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:53 PM
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Yeah it's because they're hateful, delusional and there's no way to convince you you're wrong because "you've experienced it before"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:52 PM
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Yeah but they're not sexually conservative, they're cookoo women must stay at home and clean and cook conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:46 PM
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Because men fucking like it! Men don't think women are constantly thinking about their bodies and having sex, so no biggie. But some men (ehem TRP) make women believe that men are constantly looking at and thinking of their bodies and sex, so OBVIOUSLY they don't want random pictures of them everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:41 PM
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Boy you do not understand women at all do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:39 PM
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No, a lot of trpers are pretty fucking conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:30 PM
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Haha well put
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:29 PM
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But that's why they're so messed up. They're both. They want to have sex with as many women as possible, but they also think women should still be cooking and cleaning the house all day. They're complete selfish hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:27 PM
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But it's not like air. It's literally all in your head. It's hard as shit, yeah but you don't have to think about it. It doesn't have to happen for you to be happy. Go out and find hobbies and stuff to do that fills your time and makes you happy. Through that, you'll find people you connect with for other reasons then sexual desire. That's your best chance. I don't know how to convince you, but I know for sure, it's so much easier to live life and attract people when your mind is on other things…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:13 PM
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Oh so you're telling me it's better to literally clean the house all day and do nothing else because that's your gender duty? You can't put yourself in others shoes can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:08 PM
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Yeah ForeverAlone is awful. I've read it before. It has to be one of the worst subs because they're all just making each other more and more depressed! You know the people you hang out with and talk to form how you act and think. Those people should all be talking to positive people instead, then they may come off as more positive and honestly, it's not the same thing, but being positive is more attractive than being a depressed loser. Fake it til you make it and self-confirming prophecy apply g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:00 PM
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Yeah man I hope you find someone too. Best of luck out there man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:53 PM
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Here's the thing. There's an anger phase for death, there's an anger phase for grief. There's not an anger phase for not having sex with girls!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:15 AM
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Well yeah Tom cruise does have a Jewish looking face haha. But it's not just about that. We both have charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:11 AM
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Doesn't feel like that to me man. It might just seem like that because I'm a nicer or more decent guy than you. Idk I just respect people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:47 AM
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You haven't explained anything to me. I'm not under anyone's thumb. For the first time in life I feel truly free and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:27 AM
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Yeah most definitely, but this is what's making them multiply like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:26 AM
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No offense but for guys to bang hot girls, they have to be hot/tall/rich. No offense taken because you don't the whole truth buddy. Girls like laughing. They like feeling good. I don't do any of that stuff, but I can attract hot, cool women because I have a good personality and I'm funny, as many girls have laughed and told me. Many girls sleep with guys like that that you mentioned and then later fall into a boring relationship with them because they're not particularly interesting behind their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:46 PM
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Who? The girls that think I'm cool? No. They're mostly hot confident girls with fun personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:20 PM
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Yeah I'm not and it's certainly not that easy. Interesting how I made you think that though right? That's what confidence does. Believe it or not, I don't look cool, I'm awkward, short, fat and have pretty bad anxiety. I've only had sex with two girls, but with just a little confidence/not giving a fuck, people think you're cooler than you are. Girls do too. It's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:08 PM
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No usually decently attractive men makes mean jokes about the ugliest girls and avoid them like the plague. It can be just as lonely for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:23 PM
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I'm confident in the things I'm good at and a couple of them certainly make me unique, but Boom! No but. There's something cool about you that's unique to YOU as a person. That's cool! That could be cool to other people too! I've noticed a lot of people are just bored in life/their job, etc. and being a little different, especially if it's something you're uniquely good at, cheers people up or breaks them out of the boring. If you're droll about it, then yeah they won't care, but if you're enthu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:12 PM
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You're right, my confidence is in my humor. My advice in building confidence has always been find the one thing about you that you're good at or that makes you unique and be confident in that one thing. Sounds like you already know that though. Sorry you don't have anything. Well why haven't you had sex with an unattractive girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:52 PM
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Yeah I do because confidence is key, and I've seen lots of unattractive guys on the street with average to hot girls. Well what about other unattractive people? Surely you could connect with a really unattractive girl right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:49 PM
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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about dude. That was one of the hardest things I've ever read. You gotta chill. What are you saying I accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:42 PM
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You may be sufficiently tricked into believing that her allowing you to prove yourself counts as her doing something for you I dont really understand what you mean here. I didn't say anything like that and I don't "believe that she's allowing me to prove myself" - see that's the difference between you and I; I don't give a fuck what women or anyone else "allow" me to do. I do me and if people like me, then thats good, if not, whatever, I'm doing me for me not for them. I've attracted way more gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:28 PM
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Fuck!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:12 PM
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You sound like a thousand other confused kids. That's only how it works if you have no confidence or self-respect. That's not how I have sex with a girl. It's all about connecting one-on-one, person to person. I don't "prove myself worthy," I know I'm worthy for any girl because I'm caring, friendly and can make a girl with a sense of humor laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:11 PM
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Oh shit. I think I got some bad juju now from talking to you for this long.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:08 PM
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Yeah. Are you? Who are the "they" and what "requirements" do you think there are?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:04 PM
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Well I never thought I was attractive. I was always self-conscious and thought I was ugly. Whether I was attractive or not (and if I am, it's only slightly in my face), I thought I wasn't. But then I started talking to people and being confident as if I was attractive. I just decided I didn't care if people think I'm unattractive, because fuck em, I'm gonna be weird and funny and social anyway. They couldn't shit on me for being weird because I was already unattractive, I thought. I found some p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:03 PM
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What requirements??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:51 PM
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Yeah because TRP gives you guys confirmation bias. You read all those things and then you only notice or seek out that one type of girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:46 PM
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What are you possibly basing this off of?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:44 PM
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Yes it certainly does, but isn't dedicated ongoing work how people succeed in life? I think that's the better path to take the salty red pill path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:43 PM
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You still have women on a pedestal. They're not giving you a gift lol. It's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:40 PM
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Yeah she was attracted to my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:36 PM
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TRP is based on the experiences of many, many, many men who each just knew a couple girls that were kinda similar. That's still not a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:31 PM
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Ask the girls who complain about creeps on tinder. I've talked to many who are put off by misogynistic beliefs that trp advocates. There are many blogs dedicated to these kinds of screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:22 PM
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Yet youre proudly repping the banner of a group that has, many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:20 PM
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No, there were guys way hotter than me there that on a physical attraction level, she should haven gotten with instead. But I respected her. This girl was a virgin, but no one knew. This girl had fucking HUGE boobs, but no one knew because she wore sweaters and scarves specifically to hide them. I only found these things out because I had conversations with her (I was one of the only two people that knew she was a virgin). I opened up to her and she reciprocated. I didn't try to have sex with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:19 PM
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No way. Even the devil can't buy my soul. I'm saving it to be used and abused by Hollywood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:13 PM
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No I'll tell you here. I think everyone should know too because it illustrates my problem with TRP. She refused, straight up refused, to give me a blowjob. I told her how much I wanted one, but she said it was against her morals and she never wanted to put a penis in her mouth. We had this discussion many times. One time at night we were making out and playing basically naked, and I asked her to, and to my surprise she went down and started, but she didn't really do anything (like I felt nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:12 PM
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And that's why your whole subreddit is the opposite of what you actually think. People being angry about not having sex and a few women hurt them are not alpha or masculine. People who can internalize and deal with their feelings without angrily yelling about it are way more alpha to a woman. What do you think would be more attractive to a girl: a guy who freaks out because she says something he didn't like or a guy who seems to not give a fuck and says "Oh, I feel ... but that's cool"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:54 PM
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Haha smart move. You'll make a good businessman yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:50 PM
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Two women aren't representative of 3,500,000,000 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:49 PM
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Haha yeah same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:46 PM
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But don't you think the ones "still in the anger phase" would get mad when they hear that being so angry is not alpha, and in fact very very beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:45 PM
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Haha yeah that's true. I guess they were wrong; gingers do have souls
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:40 PM
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That was a while ago. We broke up about a year and a half ago because I said something mean, something that now realize was very redpilly, to her and it hurt her feelings and killed the good vibes. We weren't the same after that and then the relationship slowly fizzled out before we finally ended it over text. That is one of the reasons I'm the position I am and so against rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:38 PM
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Yeah unconsciously because it's not game, it's way more basic then game. It's humans talking human. Opening up like that was the easiest thing I've ever done. I just shared my feelings and the things in my mind. And that scored my a beautiful girl I really liked. Because she liked the real me. I was just being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:36 PM
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Wow that might be the first time I've seen that from a redpiller. That was cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:31 PM
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Nice Guy Syndrome = Antisocial sexually inexperienced guys + unlimited internet porn + the desire for sex + thinking girls are special and deserve to be "treated better than just having sex with them like some douchebag" (wrongly assuming that girls don't like sex too)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:07 PM
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True, but the point being made here is that it is easier to get sex if you are happy in life without having it. It's hard, yes, but if you achieve that (or the closest thing which is no fucks attitude) then it makes having sex so much easier because you're not thinking about how sad you are that you arent having any.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:47 PM
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That is false. Many men have been disadvantaged too yes, but women have been a peg lower. They weren't allowed to work for soooooo long. Talk about an unfulfilling life if you're bored and you want to work. "Why does my brother get to go to college and earn money for the family? I think I'm smart, I want to also." "No honey, you're job is to stay at home and clean and learn to cook, and one day we will find you a husband with a job and money to take care of you."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:31 PM
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Yeah I guess I have a fairly handsome face if I'm giving myself credit. But What was causing her to say no is that I have large noticeable beer belly... a fat stomach, and she could date models. And many people on the trip tried courting her. But I just kept being friendly with her and making her laugh. That was what did it dude. That and honesty. I opened up to her about my life, my feelings and my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:29 PM
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What I pulled from this comment: It's just as bad for men, but women deserve their turn first. It's okay, because men will have their turn eventually, but women are far more important right now, because that's what society says. No that's not why; it's because women have had the disadvantaged stick of society for so long. They're finally getting a chance now. You basically said it's okay to judge me as a potential rapist because of my size and gender (note: I agree with you). But the flip side o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:09 PM
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Yeah dude, I'm sorry but what you're saying isn't as clear as you think it is. Just let the words pour out of your heart. How do you feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:58 PM
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I don't know. I certainly don't take their advice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:56 PM
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Well she was never really physically attracted to me I think, so I have wondered. But I initially did bond with her over a connection between our families. And I kept talking to her, being friends with her and hanging out with her (we were on a group trip). Then I let her know how I felt about it her. It was tough to do that, and she rejected me multiple times. But I just kept talking to her, and I made her laugh a lot, and when she enjoyed it, I kept letting her know how much I liked her and wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:49 PM
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Well then what's your problem with the 'otherwise'?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:39 PM
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These are all generalizations. I don't see anyone shaming these sentiments. You're right and they should be; they're just as bad as the others against women. I try to shame those when I come across them, but the fact is that's not as big in the mainstream now as feminism is. And that is wrong, but they will have their time. It's just not now. By doing it now in response to feminism trying to do it for women, it looks like bitterly trying to get in the way of their progress and steal their thunde…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:37 PM
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Yeah that word is only here because RedPillers don't understand what feminism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:21 PM
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My bad, I accidentally pressed submit before I finished writing my comment. It's edited now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:02 PM
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You are shifting the goal posts here. You are telling me that I generalize all women, and thus make incorrect assumptions about individual women. No, I'm not talking about you believe it or not. I'm talking about when anyone generalizes any whole group of people as the same. You just assume that anyone who supports TRP hates women. Yeah, well that sidebar mandatory learning is pretty darn misogynistic. But once again, I'm talking about generalizing on a whole, not just you. You are literally tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:56 PM
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Sometimes the two are the same. Which just makes them the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:41 PM
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Be yourself and you'll find a girl who likes that shit! Jesus. That's what that means. It's totally legit and makes sense. Be yourself and you'll find a girl who likes that shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:40 PM
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It only sets you up to fail or be disappointed. You simply CANNOT know something about someone until you know them. And everyone is unique or different. To walk in assuming they're a certain way is unfair to everything unique about them, everything that makes them specifically them, who they are - youre just passing it all over in favor of you're preconceived (and often incorrect) notions. Basically, if TRP was for antisocial guys, I'm telling you generalizing is the opposite of being social and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:37 PM
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Oh my god that was so passionate and so so so spot on! You are skilled
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:31 PM
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Oh shit Roasted!!! You're killing it with him. I love this. Please keep it up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:29 PM
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Tinder + RedPill Misogyny beliefs = no success on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:25 PM
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That's not true. I'm short and fat and look like a mid-teenager at best with no scruff. I also have a long history of being severely depressed and being socially awkward. But I've still had sex and I've had a really fucking hot girlfriend who was out of my league. It can't be all about appearance, I know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:22 PM
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Well I assume that TRP is cool with generalizing a whole group of people down to a few certain things. My bad, I don't know why I thought that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:19 PM
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So you're saying he said "this creates unhappiness" but he didn't give ways to be happy without it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:17 PM
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Then it's about social effort. You can always make up for things with words and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:12 PM
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His argument wasn't "You should do this" - his argument was "This is what happens when you do this; life is happier otherwise"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:10 PM
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Yeah I get that that was in fact your argument, but you can't say it like that then because it just sounds like circular reasoning even if it's not. Find something to compliment or add to his so that it's not just "My argument is that's not an argument" ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:06 PM
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Yeah but ignore that sidebar stuff. Or you might just become a happy insane man. EDIT: Also, I think, in the long run following it non stop happiness will start to fade as you realize youre happy with constant sex and no LTRs, but wait, why do you feel lonely? You're having sex. Is it because You have no LTR, no one you're really close to, no one you can talk to? TRP neglects the emotional sensitive need and side of ourselves and relationships. It's an important part of happiness, and I think OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:00 PM
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Lol I know I'm right there with you man. You're spot on and these guys are just not getting it. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:58 PM
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Well, you obviously have and need needs, but you do realize there are other ways to be happy than just sex right? Well, you obviously have and need needs, but you do realize there are other ways to be happy than just sex right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:57 PM
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Well, you obviously have and need needs, but you do realize there are other ways to be happy than just sex right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:57 PM
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Yes and there is an easy fix for that. Be happy no matter if you get sex or not. He's right. That's how I've become more confident and better with women. It's the best way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:55 PM
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Yes and there is an easy fix for that. Be happy no matter if you get sex or not. He's right. That's how I've become more confident and better with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:54 PM
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You didn't really make an argument, besides saying he had no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:49 PM
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This actually describes our main issue with TRP perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:22 PM
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Don't. While it would make it fair, RedPill already isn't fair to talk to anyway and they swarm this sub. You know what I'm talking about. This whole sub exists pretty much because RP is wrong. I don't think we should reward their mods with positions of power here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:20 PM
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It's really hard to debate with you guys. You accept one thing is truth. We believe there is no one truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:39 AM
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Tell that to all your thirsty subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:53 PM
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Anxiety is beta as fuck No anxiety is human as fuck. How you cope with it can make you alpha or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:22 PM
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So do I. I thought a lot of guy think of red pill as a place to get easy lays?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:19 PM
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True shit. RP has it backwards and they don't even realize
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:04 PM
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So doesn't that make flirting with them easier? The simplest things will make them blush if they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:03 PM
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If women are playing a game, as RP says (and frankly I believe most of them are now) That's because you're reading too much toxic red pill shit. They really don't know women as well as they make it seem they do. Please, you seem like a good person. Don't buy their shit. You're going too far down the rabbit hole. Get out while you still can!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:53 AM
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Ok, let me get on the phone with feminism... I can't speak for the feminism movement and what they do, but you can speak for what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 12:04 AM
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Yeah but if it was legal to fuck them, you guys would totally do it and act like it's fine and normal. That's probably why you brought up the Mohammed thing... you think it's not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:05 AM
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Ah darn and I thought you were starting to see things and improve. Too bad. Yeah its creepy to only want virgin girls... because you know who most virgins are... children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:28 AM
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No, as long as you don't think she's a slut, or that she's bad because of that. There's nothing wrong with having lots of sex, as you've evidenced by your own actions and wants, so as long as it's not about thinking she's bad because of it, but you just prefer virgin girls that's fine - although it's still kinda creepy. But that's more then just saying it, you have to realize in yourself why it's fine and doesn't make them bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:42 PM
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Is it okay for a woman to prefer a man who makes a ton of money even though she doesn't make shit? Yeah, that's fine because it's her preference. The problem would be if she was negatively judging guys who make as much money as she does. But just to prefer something positive in your partner is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:23 PM
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But height is a physical thing that someone can be attracted to or turned off by. "N count" is negatively judging someone's past - things that already happened (AKA "something a person can't really change"), which you wouldn't even notice if you weren't seeking it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:12 PM
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It is, in fact, true. And you know this because I know some girls Ohhhhhhhh okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:09 PM
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Are you joking or do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:06 PM
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No it is not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:04 PM
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More women like casual sex than you think. And, most importantly, casual sex is not a business with salesmen and money. This isn't a business class, this is people and human socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:01 PM
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Yes. Identical actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:30 PM
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No but you'll get drunk and offer it up to any hot girl, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:07 PM
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Isn't that you?! Aren't you doing that with women??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:32 PM
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Men want non-sluts for a wife, even if they're a slut. Real men don't have such standards. Real men care about a women's personality, looks and character. They don't judge her past and call her names for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:29 PM
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But that's why the ones who do came here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:22 PM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:16 PM
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Oh but we were getting so far! Engage me a little more?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:57 PM
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I think everything you said was fine actually and I mostly agree with you, which is why it's weird that you do still seem to have sexist beliefs. Because what you said was very free and independent - people should make their own standards and are free to be with whoever they want based on those. But I have to ask about the sexism. A women can forego being with any man and focus on her badass career, attend pro-woman rallies, and only agree to marry subservient men who subscribe to feminist ideol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:49 PM
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I don't think that's actually why, but whatever, we'll move past that. What do you tell these guys to do to redact that pedestal and undo thinking that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:45 PM
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No, I'm friends with them. They come over to my pool and swim. I go over to their pool and swim and drink. We smoke and chill together. We talk about life and other people. We do things. I'm not following them around hoping they'll have sex with me; I'm doing things with them and we're both enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:43 PM
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Ok good, and why doesn't that get you laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:41 PM
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Then I'll explain to you what I mean. First though, what do you define "pedestalizing women" as? What does that mean to put them on a pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:38 PM
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No. Stop embarrassing yourself and engage with me. Am I correct that TRP tries to get these guys to stop putting women on a pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:32 PM
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Can a women not come home from work to a loving husband and kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:31 PM
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But isn't the whole point of this to help guys to stop pedestalizing women? That is what "Nice Guys" do; that is one thing that prevents you from getting laid. Well, TRP's current system makes people think they're getting rid of the pedestal, but they're not. TRP has these guys keep women on a pedestal, just replacing the over-admiration to negativity/hatred. If you're really trying to help these guys, then you should take steps to change/fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:26 PM
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You don't! TRP made that up to make you think you need to do all that shit! It's fake. Don't accept it. The real truths you know are true in your heart. Feelings are more important that evopsych or SMV. Women like talking to men about feelings and other things. All of those things could be conversation topics to lead to sex, but none of those can be things taught on TRP. That's probably the one thing to talk about that will really turn a girl off. Stop reading TRP now, get out of it while you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:23 PM
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Yeah, except no people are an angel or unicorn. That should be a basic thing for everyone, but since it's not, you should say APALT instead of AWALT. By saying AWALT, you're still pedestalizing them by making it seem like women are SOOO important that they get their own acronym separating them from everyone else. Don't you see how that doesn't help remove them from the pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:19 PM
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No because like I said, you lost me at your fourth line. That's your starting basis for this explanation and it doesn't logically work so I can't get behind any of your point if that's the foundation of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:08 PM
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She was as close to a 'unicorn' as I've ever met Well there's your problem. This girl was a rare one. Most aren't like that and most won't treat you that way when sharing your feelings. She was loyal and a good woman. And she doesn't seem like that much of a good woman if you sharing your feelings had that effect on her. Also, it could be what you said you expect out of a relationship. If you really are "70R" then that wouldn't surprise me because RP theory doesn't fit well with being open about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:00 PM
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None of them. But I don't want to; they're my friends. I do other fun stuff with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:58 PM
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Yeah feels are more important than those things. Feels are how you really connect with people. You don't need any of that stuff, you really don't. Talking all that stuff just distances you more from people. If you like a girl, if you see a girl that attracts you, go talk to her about her feelings. Connect with her on your similar (or not) feelings. It's literally the easiest thing we have and TRP distorts it and makes it seem like there's so much more to it. There's not. You like a girl. Go tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:30 PM
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I'm not talking about you. I'm clearly talking about trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:18 PM
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Because being nice and happy and friendly is better than being a bitter angry women-hating person who's constantly using autistic terms trying to compare himself to an imaginary "chad thundercock" because he thinks it will get him more women. I truly believe going through life never learning anything from TRP (like all those stupid terms) will make you more socially normal and give you an easier time connecting with people and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:05 PM
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Then stop saying AWALT altogether. It never applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:02 PM
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Of course I don't. But I think being friends with people is more important that trp seems to think it is. And I am happy being friends with girls. Isn't that something that drove a lot of people to trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:36 AM
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If I were to add the question "what's wrong?" to the end would that have made it sound better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:56 AM
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You're right, I'm not. I was a short, fat, insecure, socially awkward loser. I pretty much still am, though my confidence has changed for the better. I can talk to any girl or person now and I have hot women friends who enjoy hanging out with me. What's your point about me not being natural though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:55 AM
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Because I care about people. Whatever is making him angry is behind his message and I think tailoring it personally toward him would be the most affective way of addressing the message. People and their emotions matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:51 AM
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You realize that what you just said is exactly what TRP does towards women right? In your example, women are the Muslims, TRP is the racist grandma, and I'm the one bashing the racists for not being tolerant. If you think it's any other way than that, then I'm sorry to say that TRP has you brainwashed and confused. I'm here if you need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:19 AM
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I'm not a blue piller - I've never read a comment on that sub. I know some of them only do the mocking thing, but I believe it stems from a good place and they don't realize how they come off hurtfully. I know I didn't at first, but since someone pointed it out to me, I realized they're right and that's why I want to do this. Real good genuine advice can come from this, but most of us have never had to put it in words before; it's how we know RP is wrong - we've been fine without it our whole li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:08 AM
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The only reason to think RP's hateful is a fundamental mistrust and salty attitude towards men. No, the only reason to think RP is hateful is because of RP's fundamental mistrust and salty attitude towards women. It comes from specific personal experiences that you guys blow up into huge things, when they really aren't. best to just help the boys get what they want. Yeah but RedPill isn't the right way to do that. You think women are lying when they say they want a nice guy. That's bullshit. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:01 AM
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I really want to, but I dont have all that much time right now because of work and school. But I know what it feels like to feel lonely and unwanted. I also know what it feels like to be the coolest person in the room. I want to start a sub that actually helps people with real advice, but I need some bluepillers to help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:57 PM
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The rhetorical questions were the main ticker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:54 PM
2

Well maybe you were scared of your own emotions or what she would think of them? See for me, I don't care what people think of my emotions and I'm proud to express them because they're one of the few things that's purely me that I can't control. Most girls like emotions too, and I find it's very sexy and connecting to be able to share like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:53 PM
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It is what it sounds like. If it's not then change the name, but all women are not anything, and no matter how you try to explain it, understanding people can never work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:50 PM
0

Does it feel good ruining young boys lives forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:49 PM
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RedPill will not help; it will make that come harder. If you really want to help younger people, oppose TRP. It is very toxic and they get you to believe that the opposite of the truth is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:48 PM
1

Really? I opened up fully before I had sex with my girlfriends and we did it after and they kept coming back for more. Some girls love it when a guy can be in touch with his emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:44 PM
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Really? I opened up fully before I had sex with my girlfriends and we did it after and they kept coming back for more. Some girls love it when a guy can be in touch with his emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:44 PM
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All women are like women. You lost me there. That's not necessarily true either. All people are different in their own way, and besides having the proper reproductive organs, no woman is necessarily like any other woman just because she's a woman. You have to get to know people. You can't be making these heuristics - that's helpful for tests, etc, but this is real human life and social interaction. These things really can't be cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:42 PM
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Lol based on what? Your comment right there? It didn't make any sense. I haven't been to /r/niceguys since I discovered this sub - they're too jokey and mean there; here is where I can help the confused boys that end up on /r/niceguys before they get in your clutches and become confused and hateful of women for life. You're not helping anyone. You're making this world a worse place. You're spreading the hate and it needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:36 PM
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What about the "bluepillers" that are men? I know for sure we care about helping you guys (or at least I know that I do), but you guys are so convinced we're evilly against you that you won't open your eyes up to the idea that we do care - that's honestly the whole point of why I'm against RP - you guys seem like you don't care about anyone. I do care about people, I care about everyone, including you. Also, I know what it's like to feel that way - I used to be that way, but TRP is NOT the answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:15 PM
-1

In the same way that some guys who couldn't get a girl to talk to them are now experts on what women want and how to get with them... LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:10 PM
-1

Great way to put it!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:09 PM
-6

Why do you sound so angry dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:07 PM
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No it's not. You're spreading these incorrect, sexist, misleading views to young boys who will take this stuff in and treat women (and people in general) badly as they grow up because of it. Stop spreading hate!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:05 PM
-4

I think it looks like it could have been copied and pasted from TheRedPill's front page.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:03 PM
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That's all I have dude. It's ironic you'll accept trp's "truths" so easily but then complain about people not using critical thinking. TRP doesn't use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:39 PM
-1

So then describe them as they are in your life as your personal experiences. Don't use their words, they don't know your life or anyone else's. Your personal story matters, not their sidebar cheat code to what goes on in life. They can't predict or guess anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:12 PM
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Blue pill isn't a thing, it only exists when you start believing red pill is a thing, which if course it isn't either. I'm sorry dude, but these are just words on an Internet forum and the people that wrote them are not experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 08:03 PM
-1

All across TRP. Either get rid of AWALT completely or accept that anything you say is assumed to go along with that ridiculous belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 07:58 PM
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The sidebar is the poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 03:25 PM
0

Come on man, I think you're better than this. You shouldn't be spouting this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 03:21 PM
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That's not TRP that teaches that, that's actual, real life women saying that. Oh yeah? All women have rape fantasies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 03:20 PM
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That said, TRP is as toxic, hateful and cult-like as modern feminism is, and is the other side of the same coin. No, actually they're not the same. You think the two are parallel, but TRP is waay more toxic and untrue than feminism is. Only super extreme feminism is close to that. Same type of dehumanizing, overly compartmentalizing rhetoric, just aimed at the opposite gender ("all men are violent fiends who want to rape women" No. Real feminists don't say that. They don't think all men are bad.…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/15 02:30 PM
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Beg to disagree, I'm a TRP-type man and I do not feel entitled to relationships, I merely want all the tools at my disposal to find one that works for me. Do you also think it's important that the relationship works for her? Or is it just about finding one that works for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:16 PM
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No it's not. Do you not trust anyone when they say something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:22 PM
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You however derailed it into "duuuuh being promiscuous isn't a bad thing" (making a normative statement based on your values Do you like sex? Do you think having a lot of it makes you a bad person? I'm sure you'd say "no" - most people don't think them having lots of sex is a bad thing so why are you so quick to judge other people and call them bad for doing it? What's so wrong about it? It's not just "my value," it's a common sense value that should be shared by all. Lol I'm not a tool dude. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 01:52 PM
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Thanks for really adding to the discussion there. You're a real champion debater.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:35 PM
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Lol you can't be that dense. Just because there's a stigma against something does not make it bad... that's the whole point of stigmas. There's a huge stigma against depression and other similar mental illnesses. People refer to them as "crazy" and people that have them are "crazy." Is that fair? Those people clearly don't understand the mental disorder at all/well enough because they've probably never experienced it from their POV, but it's a mental disorder/illness, way more than just "being c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:06 PM
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It doesn't matter what people think about it; there's nothing wrong with it as long as the girl is comfortable and doing what she wants to do. You and many other guys think it's wrong and bad, but so what? Who are you to judge someone else's sex life? Lots of casual sex is not a negative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:15 AM
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"Slutiness" on the other hand is pretty clearly a negative attribute. You're incorrect. It is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:29 AM
0

But why should the 5 stages of grief apply to getting with women... isn't that kind of odd?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:04 AM
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Men aren't; TRP-type men are. That's why this subreddit exists. That's why there's so much TRP hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:02 AM
2

Why do they complain about the many apparent problems of women so much then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:57 AM
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Yeah, because even if you're hot, you still have to be part of your girl's life, do things with her and make her happy. Being hot, but also being a dick (or a bitch) to your partner does not make for a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:51 AM
2

Actually quite the opposite. I embrace the "I'm fucked up, you're fucked up in your way" mindset. It's interestingly worked wonders, my empathy is at an all-time high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:55 AM
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Tell yourself what you need to man. That's a stereotypical line bad guys often say in movies, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:53 AM
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What? You wanna reverse my progress? Now that I finally learned to be dismissive of women after a life of being missive? Becoming totally dismissive of women doesn't fix your problem of pedestalizing them. You still have them so high on a pedestal that you think they're that important they're in need of dismissing. They're not, they're just regular people on regular level ground like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:35 AM
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That sounds awful. I wouldn't want to be a jerk. Have fun raising the bully that made your childhood hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:21 AM
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See that's normal stuff in their life. It would be normal to just accept it and be cool about it rather than make a big deal about how it's weird. Because it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:20 AM
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That is what it sounded like, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:18 AM
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Yeah we got in a fight one night and I said something mean to her that changed and slowly ruined the relationship. I regret saying that. Come to think of it, what I said was a very redpill thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:06 AM
0

That's not "so high"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 02:38 PM
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He's right though. TRPers all talk with overly big, "scientific" words that they've all clearly been taught to cover up that they don't actually know anything social off the internet; they don't know how to talk IRL, which is the cause of their problems in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:14 AM
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They don't do that. You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:10 AM
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It's ironic how you use that as your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:09 AM
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What does it mean to be "taken seriously" exactly? I personally just don't think of women as very serious beings. Well, there you go. Exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:08 AM
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yeah... a little too seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:08 AM
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Why? What makes her experience and opinion not credible??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:08 AM
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Yeah I'm sure you could, and you would find that was the case for a lot of those relationships. My first girlfriend was WAAAAY out of my league. Beautiful, huge boobs, still a virgin (though that was actually more of a negative to me), foreign/exotic, loved to work out, and just muy sexy. Everywhere she went guys were always hitting on her. But I never thought she was cheating on me or anything, because she was into me. I made her laugh all the time and we talked about things important to both o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 12:40 AM
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If you love a girl and treat her right, and communicate with her, you shouldn't have to be worried about her cheating on you or leaving, regardless of her sexual history. All you need is communication and trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 12:10 AM
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Her only action was being afraid that she couldn't be honest with her husband. She should be held accountable for her past (everyone should embrace theirs), but there's nothing wrong with sleeping with a lot of guys, so once again it all goes back to the husband's inability to deal with who she is that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 12:08 AM
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How well do you know these girls? How do you know they're unable to make lasting connections? And it just sounds like you're making a ton of excuses to be against girls having as much sex as they want. There's nothing actually wrong with it; it's just not your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:01 PM
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No, but I know that because I'm not a psychologist, I can't be making bold claims about human psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 01:58 PM
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You can be choosy, but you can't complain when you don't get with as many girls as you'd like then. And there's nothing wrong with a girl having/having had a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 05:03 AM
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But you're not hiring a girl for a job here. Try connecting with her as a person, now, in the moment. accept that the past has happened and don't make assumptions about the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:13 AM
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Ok word you're not TRP. You're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:08 AM
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Well that shaming is for a reason. Why do you care so much about another person's past?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 01:06 AM
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It's his fault for not asking and finding out about this huge deal breaker (which isn't that big a deal) before entering a long term relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 12:34 AM
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If a women feels she has to hide her past from her husband, then clearly she's not with right husband and I believe it's his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 12:12 AM
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Yeah its sad that they have to do that. It's too bad they can't be with people who don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 10:15 PM
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BluePill is just living life regularly with communication and no hate or misogyny. That's all it is, there's no pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 05:01 PM
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look at all the relationships stories of guys in disgust/horror when they find out their prudish wife's colourful past. That's because these guys suck at communication. They should have discussed this a LONG time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:40 PM
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Find it or you got nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:33 PM
0

And you know this because you're a psychologist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:33 PM
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Are you TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:28 PM
1

Oh so you don't actually believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:09 PM
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Yeah that's actually a great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:04 PM
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It applies to how trp wrongly treats women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:19 AM
1

Cool. Sounds like we're on the same page about this. I knew we could do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:56 PM
1

Well yeah its obviously not as important as water and food, but I would say it's as important as sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:58 PM
1

Who said I was crying to them about my problems? I just talk to them about stuff, sometimes including my problems sometimes theirs, like friends do. What ugly behavior am I doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:46 PM
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No-one else but you knows what you want out of an interaction or relationship, so if you hang back and wait for people to guess and give it to you, you frequently don't get it. This also applies to women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:55 PM
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No you shouldn't. You're just asking girls to fuck you for being "friendly" to them. That's not real friendly and they shouldn't just give you what you want out of nowhere, with no discussion about it. Yeah, that would be hot and easier, but it's super unrealistic, and it makes you sound like you think you're entitled to sex. You're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:52 PM
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Yes I do believe that's true. And anyone that uses the words "beta" and "alpha" to describe themselves and other men is no true "alpha"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:47 PM
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Ok sure. But responding to things by just saying "ad hominem! ad hominem!" isn't really responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:45 PM
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If they for some reason broke up with their boyfriends This is something that won't happen, and I hope it doesn't because their boyfriends are cool, good guys and they are happy together. I genuinely enjoy being friends with them You just can't get this concept can you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:38 PM
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I'm not going to take any suggestions from a bully like you, but thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:59 AM
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You look more foolish than most going around saying red pill is truth. It really isn't, and everyone that doesn't already agree with you thinks it's completely foolish and pathetic when they see that flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:58 AM
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If they for some reason broke up with their boyfriends and straight up told me they wanted to fuck me I wouldn't turn it down, but I genuinely enjoy being friends with them and their boyfriends, and I don't think about sex with them. They're all cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:55 AM
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No I've watched it all happen, as I've become very close friends with two very hot women at my office. Are you friends with any women? Or are you just getting all these negatives from what others have told you on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:53 AM
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I do. Anyone who thinks they need this TRP bullshit comes off as super butthurt. Advertising it like that in your flair makes you look more pathetic than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:04 AM
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It's not OK to generalize about any group of people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:58 PM
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Oh... well then maybe change what you say so you stop coming off as butthurt online. Not trying to shame you, just pointing out a clear observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:54 PM
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should i dig up the thread on /r/theredpill of red pillers disagreeing with rodgers actions but relating to his point of view? Yes, please do!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:52 PM
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Haha I don't think you can. Otherwise, how and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:51 PM
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You avoided responding to any of the OP. You should feel ashamed for calling someone out on some bullshit, but not saying anything yourself. And somehow you got top comment?! Get out of here. OP is right about status relating to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:48 PM
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Friendship is more important than you think dude. Hot girl friends can hook you up with other girls or just be there when you need someone to talk to. And hanging out with them makes you look baller to other girls who see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:35 PM
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I'm one of those guys to a few hot women. I have no sexual tension on my end either. They're really cool girls and I'm glad to be their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:32 PM
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I'm one of those guys to a few hot women. I have no sexual tension on my end either. They're really cool girls and I'm glad to be their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:32 PM
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I'm friends with women I don't want to fuck. Men and women can be friends. But you just have to accept the situation as it is and be cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:31 PM
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She's not proving anything dude. You just seem butthurt for some reason. Women are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:29 PM
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She's just ONE woman. You just proved for all of us that redpillers DO base their generalizations for all women off of just one that they had an encounter with. Now THAT is lazy, and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:28 PM
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She's just ONE woman. You just proved for all of us that redpillers DO base their generalizations for all women off of just one that they had an encounter with. Now THAT is lazy, and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:28 PM
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Ok, so you haven't. So you can't say that RP does that or works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:18 PM
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No but sexist, insecure men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:24 PM
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Because they like to have sex with guys that arent them lol. So jealous, so insecure. So sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:47 PM
-1

Have you made a woman wet by simply being in her presence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:43 PM
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Girls do not want TRP guys. If they knew what you thought about women, they'd kick you in the balls and tell you to get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:43 PM
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Haha oh I know. I'm just trying to get them to realize it and maybe admit they're wrong (although I know that's a poor expectation)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:40 PM
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No, here's the thing about "BP": they believe all people are the same in that they're all different. You know the exact same amount about all strangers until you talk to one and find out more. There's no way you can no more about them otherwise without making stupid assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 01:43 PM
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I am confident af, I am hilarious to talk to Both of those seem untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 01:38 PM
1

So the men I am friends with ... with my friends These guys shouldn't be your friends. You are mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 01:34 PM
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Yeah but that's just at your family gatherings. That's not the rest of the world, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:12 AM
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Yeah that's not enough to think you know all women. You only know a handful of ones that clearly aren't the best. There are lots of great women out there. I was too nice. No that's bullshit. You can't be too nice. That's not the reason they didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:00 AM
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So women are never used or abused? That's all "hamstering" and excuses? Everytime a woman says she was used, she's making an excuse because she did something wrong? Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:54 AM
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So do you agree that this is a woman who had some pretty good sex with a guy, and now has another guy she doesn't want to do with him the stuff she did with the first guy? Because that's sure what this looks like. FTFY Yeah I agree with that. It does look like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:43 AM
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It's a (gasp) generalization that is true. You see the problem here right? You guys call it a generalization when when defending it to us, but you clearly believe it to be a truth in your head. You're... saying something but doing the opposite (gasp!)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:29 AM
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So, just one. I don't know how you can think you know women so well after being with one for just half a year. Meet more women. Be friends with them for an actual long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:17 AM
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I don't think you understand what regular men are. Yeah I do - a regular man is an adult human male with a heartbeat. Why does being physically perfect make them different than that? Does he have superhuman powers from Krypton? No. (I fail at getting women because I'm short, I don't have perfect facial aesthetics and so on) But you're not fat. If you're not fat (i.e. you're skinny), you should be able to get girls fine, even with an ugly face. Being fat is the only thing that is legit visually u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:14 AM
1

but I just wanted to say that if you've been around women long enough Really? How many women have you been close to for "long enough"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:56 AM
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Those are regular men who's profession happens to be model. It's pretty mean to think of John Turner as Chad Thundercock just because he's super attractive and a model. He's not "Chad Thundercock", he's John Turner. Why give him the praise and glory, but take away his identity. That's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:33 PM
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You're in extreme denial if you don't think that proves anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:24 PM
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Wow I'm impressed. You just completely evaded all his logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:40 AM
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Yeah you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:37 AM
1

Because they probably do give lots of fucks about how unattractive they are. I imagine most do - it's hard not to; that's why things like the red pill exist. Being unattractive + caring that people think you're unattractive = appearing extra unattractive to girls
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:58 PM
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Those guys aren't "Chad" - they're just regular attractive men. It's kind of mean to refer to them as some fake character. You're objectifying them. Which is actually pretty interesting - Red pillers sexually objectify both women and men... I don't know why I didn't realize that earlier. You guys are sexist towards everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:45 PM
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No and that makes them more manly. That's why you see unattractive looking guys with hot girlfriends often. Because they don't give a fuck about material shit or comparing themselves to others, and that's actually hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:37 PM
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Ooh I don't think I should click that. I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed there anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:41 AM
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Chad doesn't exist, so no. We can say that all women probably want a man who will be there for them and take care of them, but that can come in all forms. A mythical "man" you guys created out of jealousy is not the prototype of what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:40 AM
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But who gives a fuck what they say that want. Not showing feelings when you have them just to be attractive to girls is way less manly than accepting who you are and doing it with no fear of what anyone thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:36 AM
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I don't know that for sure. The only way you can know something for sure about someone is genuinely talking to them about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:33 AM
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How can you agree with what I just said and then still say that? Contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:30 AM
1

So basically, people have a moral duty to help others. People have a duty to help women being threatened with sexual assault. But there is no duty to help a thirsty man Correct. How does that really fit in the same category with "being threatened with sexual assault"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:16 AM
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Yeah, well obviously men think that. But men aren't the ones men are trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:11 AM
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Wow, it's almost like maybe there's more than one kind of woman in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:11 AM
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Or you know, they just find having sex fun and enjoyable. Where do you get this strange idea that they define themselves from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:39 AM
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Some of the reasons she might have a high N count are desirable to him. But none of those reasons are unique to high count girls. Being adventurous, liking sex, or being independent don't require someone to sleep with a lot of guys. Being experienced and good at sex does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:36 AM
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Yeah I agree. That sounds like the "those guys are just still in the anger phase" excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:30 AM
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You're attributing a lot of negative characteristics to low count women and positive characteristics to higher counts. RedPillers do the exact same but the other way around and much more extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:24 AM
0

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:22 AM
-4

And all of that gives you the ability to read other people's minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:01 AM
1

Yeah, exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:42 AM
-1

What makes you think you know what most men want or what most men think? Let alone women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:40 AM
1

Girls love puppies! Are you high? Or have you just never talked to a real woman? Oh right it's probably that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:06 AM
1

Well they're all better than the ones who are apart of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:05 AM
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I was 21 (to be 22 in a few months) when I figured it out. I understand that and all, but if people want to be in healthy relationships (and even if they don't their partner probably will), those people who don't understand relationships need to accept that fact and learn from someone who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:58 PM
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Why do you need such clear explanation on that? You don't think women have strengths?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:53 PM
1

Are you genuinely interested in this? Or do you just want to mock it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 03:31 PM
1

No those are good, but this will not rely on red pill to exist and inevitably run it into the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 02:52 PM
1

You're an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 02:50 PM
1

Why would I do anything negative toward me for a woman, or anyone else? That's imbecellic to think we would do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 01:23 PM
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No it certainly wasn't obvious to me either. I was trying to understand what being confident really meant for the longest time, and then the beginning of 2015, it just clicked and something switched on. I was super depressed for years and thought I would be lonely forever. Now I'm not and I don't think that. We get it more than you think, you just have to trust us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 01:20 PM
-1

You know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 01:17 PM
0

That's not "bp" advice, you tragically don't understand "BP" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:11 PM
-1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:08 PM
2

They're completely oblivious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:04 PM
0

You have to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:03 PM
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He hasn't jumped at all. He's merely stated the same TRP taking point. Having lots of people like that makes it not specific and I think he's just exaggerating, unless he tells us which of those people said what exactly. I don't need to know names, but at least tell me what they said that put them in this list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:30 PM
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Yeah that sounds like alpha, though it could also be socially awkward beta because they may not know how to let out their emotions properly. Although I don't really get this alpha beta stuff. All it does is create jealousy. We're all just people each with our own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:39 PM
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I think domestic violence comes from guys who don't communicate and don't show emotions bottling up everything and then ultimately letting out their frustration with fists instead of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:25 PM
-1

I'm completely in touch with men's POV and what drives them to TRP - a couple years ago, I might have gotten into trp too, but I've found happiness in letting people be people. I don't need that shit and I'm glad I realized it before it was too late and I got sucked down TRP. More realistic to hop on a transcontinental flight than hope for the kind of sex men want.. Well you can actually buy a ticket to Amsterdam. All the hoping in the word isn't going to make a hot girl appear and have sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:23 PM
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Yes oh my god this! Why can't redpillers understand this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:07 PM
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Lol they don't get what they say do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:07 PM
-2

I'm not a white knight. I'm just a regularly decent person. You can be one without the other. Maybe try it sometime!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:02 PM
-1

I'm saying they're not just self-interested. Women are sweet and caring and will let you in their group even if you don't let them in yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:52 PM
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I can see it as sensible if it was the woman getting raped and you decide to not help her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:51 PM
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Why did you put strengths in quotation marks? It seemed like you don't believe women have strengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:47 PM
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That's true, they don't seem to mind when I show up either. Wow maybe women are open, caring and nice?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:29 PM
0

Wha-what the fuck are you doing? Are those feelings you're trying to push on me? Fuck that feelings are for feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:14 PM
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That somebody actually said these words to you. "Every authority figure" is not saying this stuff to kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:13 PM
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If they put the work into it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:57 PM
-2

More realistic than a hot chick coming up to you for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:57 PM
1

Ever since I found out you're a woman, I just don't get why you're on here talking shit about women all the time. You're like Uncle Ruckus on Boondocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:53 PM
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Why do you hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:46 PM
1

LOL... Your standards are too high, if 99% of women are too boring for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:43 PM
1

What did they say on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:42 PM
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No he did not give specifics. He gave a list of people, but didn't say one person who specifically said that thing. That's "specifics," not a general list of authority figures and people in his life. If he gave you less names, you'd tell him he's a fool for believing the words of a few individuals. No, that would help me understand it/him better because at least I know someone did tell him this and he didn't just make it up himself. That's all I'm asking for. Stop telling me what I'm going to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:35 PM
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No, maybe a couple family members would make sense, but there's absolutely no way all those people told him the same specific wrong thing about women. Adding all those people makes it unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:43 PM
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No they don't, that's ridiculous. I've never heard that from any of them. Either you misunderstood your confused feelings about women or one specific person told you that specific thing. Which was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:41 PM
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Well that's good advice from him. (And he wasnt saying anything about women being better than men) You should respect everybody. Your dad sounds like a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:34 PM
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No I didn't. empathy, feelings and communication
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:32 PM
1

I also don't know where you're coming across people "teaching men not to rape"... I've never heard someone seriously tell someone this besides in SVU episodes. It's not something that needs to be taught. Where are you heating this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:28 PM
1

You've met 99% of women? I know a bunch of awesome, interesting women. I think if you're finding that to be true, you are the one that is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:22 PM
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There are a lot of them. Because most happy relationships are "BP"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:17 PM
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You clearly didn't read my comment and you're just proving you hear what you want to hear. I said I believe one important person close to you said it. Who was that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:15 PM
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No. I want you to tell me specific people that said specific things to you. "Everyone" doesn't work. I don't believe "everyone" taught you the exact same things on this. I feel like one person important to you said it and you started hearing that advice from everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:08 PM
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No excuses is also common self-improvement advice. And it's definitely preached by "BPers" too. Don't make excuses like that women sucks, own up to what about you she didn't like and either shrug her off or work to better that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 02:06 PM
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There are better options than TRP. A new subreddit is coming soon that teaches how empathy, feelings and communication can get you confidence and success with women. It's going to put TRP out of business. Keep an eye out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:42 PM
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They all said the words to you "Men are bad and always wrong, women are good and always right"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:40 PM
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Once again, WHO taught you this? I didn't learn men are bad, women are great. I read about more cases of women being raped by men in the news, for example (and I still don't believe women are worse than men) but nobody taught me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:39 PM
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Sounds like the women that you can get with TRP suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:37 PM
0

Imagine this: it's not a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:35 PM
-1

Well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:35 PM
0

That sounds like common advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:34 PM
-1

What I was taught was: Women are wonderful. You must give them everything they want. Women are always right and men are always wrong. Women=good; men=bad. Who, literally who, taught you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:29 PM
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A new subreddit is coming out soon just for that. RedPill will not be needed anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:27 PM
1

Oh my apologies, I didn't mean to respond that there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:11 PM
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How else do we you define success? That's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:09 PM
1

I'm not a woman, dingus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:11 AM
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Do you trust anything? I do have a super cool job. And the second two are true, at the very least because it's clear you don't know how to talk to women and I don't see how many people can like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:10 AM
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I know I have a cooler job than you, I know I'm better at talking to girls than you are, and I know that more people like me than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 09:10 PM
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I'm 100% sure you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:29 PM
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No that's only what you think because you use the words "blue" and "BP" to mean something. If you reject RP, it's just being a normal, regular person who has feelings and communicates. Reject RP entirely and you can do great with this lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:24 PM
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Just curious, if you are not a virgin, do you feel as though you have given your heart and body to another girl? Do you feel it has changed you? I fell head over heels in love with my last girlfriend. But I'm not in love with her anymore. Can't say the same thing for a girl who's had a string of ex-boyfriends. Why not? It's the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:14 PM
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Talking/thinking like that is why you're still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:07 PM
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Oh, you're not a regular folk? What are you then? Cuz you're certainly not better than "regular folks."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:04 PM
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Lol like you would know anything about valuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:00 PM
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Haha yeah I know tell me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 11:57 AM
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It's fine to be BP. When you stop thinking about it like a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:38 AM
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He's fucking nuts! It's both terribly sad and hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:35 AM
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Because they're delusional misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:07 AM
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Fine then what inherent advantages do we have that we're not really allowed to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:10 PM
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We're not really allowed to use our inherent advantages. Fine, not upset, but you wish you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:03 PM
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Yeah there needs to be that trust first. Trust is important for relationships of all kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:00 AM
-1

And you got this info from the many large surveys you took?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:38 AM
1

Ok sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:24 AM
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Ok but don't make a judgment about that person then. if you don't ask and talk, you don't know what they were/are actually thinking. No matter how much you think you do, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:24 AM
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I certainly understand that. Everyone has different lives. How do you know the ones in your post aren't immature and naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:12 AM
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Well when you see an action that doesn't match what she said, bring it up to her. Don't just sit there twirling your mustache thinking "Ha I was right! That proved my point"... maybe ask her why she does that, if she knew about it and what she really means/feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:11 AM
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I don't know who hurt you, dude, but I'm sorry. I hope it gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:07 AM
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Oh I know. I stand by it. 1) I said many, not all. 2) I'm generalizing a single age of people, of all genders. TRP generalizes a whole gender all at different points of their life. I think age is better for generalizing than gender, race, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:06 AM
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Their behavior speaks truer than their words. Isn't that true about everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:03 AM
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but I still support their vanity by watching movies or buying music(not that anyone does that anymore) It's not "their vanity" - it's their job. Like how you have a job and your parents have jobs. (and you shouldn't steal music, it's not paying for someone's work that you enjoy enough to use). if you know what their name is than they are already succeeding Idk dude. A lot of celebrities seem depressed by the fame. I don't think it's as great as the mainstream public makes it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:02 AM
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Many 18 year olds are still immature and naive. They're just leaving home for the first time... they don't know how the real world works yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:00 AM
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LOL you don't get the BP mindset at all. Non-RP believes we're all the fucking same, not that we're all unique. We're all the same, so treat others how you'd want to be treated. That's what non-RP believes. It's pretty rational and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:57 PM
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Someone with a realistic viewpoint. You'll find most non-redpillers are actually like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:55 PM
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Because you should just TALK to women (or at least the woman you're interested in) and find out about them that way, rather than relying on heuristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:53 PM
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but you have nothing to gain and everything to lose if you presume that they aren't. But that's not the same when it comes to generalizing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:51 PM
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This is exactly why TRP can't assume they know what goes on in women's minds. You're right, but your correctness proves why TheRedPill is completely wrong and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:45 PM
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Then that's THAT WOMAN's preference and it's cool. You can't assume all women want the same thing or are the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:43 PM
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because you can't see emotional damage or manipulation. I can! It's called r/theredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:42 PM
1

So... you're upset you're not allowed to forcefully rape women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:41 PM
1

Great comment! I really connected with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:36 PM
1

But do you at least understand why it's ignored? That the whole point is that women's words don't match their actions and if you want to be successful you should watch their actions. Yeah, that's sexist, delusional and wrong (in both senses of the word).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:33 PM
1

It actually means "hand to hand"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:29 PM
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Read my other comment. I don't care about what they do with their families or what "secrets" they spill in the latest magazine. I don't give a shit what surgery they had or whatever they report on TMZ. A lot of people care waaaay too much what celebrities lives are like. I don't, they're just other people to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:26 PM
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There's nothing good out of them. They think women are stupid and worse than men, yet they want you to have sex with them. They don't deserve your time. Find someone who respects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:19 PM
-1

Sexism gets you hot? That's... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:01 PM
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Nah, it's sexist sexual strategy for men coming from other men who think they know women, but don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:55 PM
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TheRedPill is wrong, that's all I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:53 PM
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The denial of the Wall by the BP set is a LITERAL denial of the experience of female aging No, the belief of "The Wall" by the RP is an unnecessary sexist concept that is already commonly explained by regular aging. You guys made up something extra confusing and sexist when it's already commonly understood as a normal concept that everyone experiences and knows about. "The Wall" is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:43 PM
0

Yeah so... what's wrong with someone wanting to fuck a hot celebrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:34 PM
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I don't. I don't idolize them, I respect them and look up to them as a model to gain success as well. But all they are are people, who gained success. They're not gods, I don't care what any of them do with their family or what "secrets" they're spilling in this month's People. To idolize them means to look at them as better than you, which they always will be when you're looking up in awe. I just look at them as regular people, like me, who did something to gain success, like I can and will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:32 PM
2

How did that one sound like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:15 PM
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Oh damn that rejection hurt. I think it made me bitter. All men want is sex. They're all assholes just trying to get ahead of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:15 PM
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I don't idolize celebrities. I think of them simply as regular people working their job. The system wants us to idolize them because they know that will make them more money, but we shouldn't forget that they're just people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:47 PM
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Yeah that works. But it's all men. You can not respect specific people, but it's wrong to not respect a whole group of people just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:45 PM
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It can be a woman too. If she doesn't respect all men, but still tries to have sex with them and complains about them, then she's the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:24 PM
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No I'm sure a bunch do. I don't generalize, that's why I hate the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:22 PM
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You're right, except the guy who doesn't respect the women. He's the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:20 PM
0

???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:55 PM
2

No, confidence is. Don't confuse the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:46 PM
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Dating is not an actual battle arena, bro. And why would you teach men to compete with women?? The same people they're trying to get with... that doesn't make sense. Your whole comment explains it perfectly: TRP treats it like men beating the bad guy women in dating... that's misogyny. Why are women the bad guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:41 PM
2

Well there's your problem - don't idolize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:40 PM
-2

Oh and you know this with your PhD? Where did you go to medical school?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:38 PM
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It doesn't matter what definition "makes more sense"... one is the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:15 PM
0

Yeah... so? Become a hollywood actor and you can too. I don't get your point besides jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:13 PM
2

Hey good post - I think you meant "without" in your first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:23 PM
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No misogyny |məˈsäjənē| noun the hatred of women: she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny. DERIVATIVES misogynous |-nəs| adjective ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek misos ‘hatred’ + gunē ‘woman.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:20 PM
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No, I'm at work. What I said was very rational. What don't you get about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:19 PM
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If your path to self-actualization requires believing delusions of misogyny, then you're going to an amoral path of self-actualization that will make you a negative self.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:14 PM
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So? They're making a fictional story and getting paid for it based on how well it does. It's your fault for taking it as anything more than fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:11 PM
-1

What do you mean by that "society rewards them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:43 PM
-1

What about it... You know Hollywood is completely fake right? That's the point of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:36 PM
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Only an amoral bad person would need to say that to justify their actions/beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:10 PM
0

But it's important to not let it get you bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:50 PM
-1

Women don't think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:48 PM
1

This is so flawed. Until proven wrong, I'll stick to the null hypothesis that a person's character has no bearing on romantic success. Of course it does!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:48 PM
1

They don't want to be told "no because you're a girl" that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 04:00 AM
0

It must suck to have no feelings. I really feel for you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 08:06 PM
-1

No, I didn't ask "what am I"... I'm just telling you what you are. It's different, I'm not pulling a trick or playing name games, I'm just being honest with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 03:09 PM
0

Thinking blue pillers are ignorant shows how you are waaaaaay more ignorant. It's kind of ironic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:58 AM
0

Why'd you italicize genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:52 AM
-1

Once again, I'm not a scientist, so no. But I'm curious, if TRP was truth, wouldn't it have far more subscribers? What's more likely, that only 100,000 out of 36,000,000 people see the truth, or 100,000 people out of 36,000,000 are seeing what they want to believe, not the reality that the other 99% know?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:52 AM
-1

That's actually irrelevant to the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:28 AM
1

Oh ok well yeah, trp concepts are not true. It would do you guys good to realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:39 AM
0

What do you mean mine may be relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:33 AM
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I... I don't think your mirror can type a response to that. Maybe just ask it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:30 AM
2

You may want to stop being anti-Semitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:21 AM
-3

Also the underlying emotional effects are irrelevant if the red pill is the truth. Which it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:12 AM
-2

The way the empathy of women draws them to romance and depression, mine draws me towards rage. ...Your empathy draws you towards rage? That sounds really bad and unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:11 AM
0

Yeah, you clearly have no idea what the main problems are with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:09 AM
1

So TRP makes lies sound really good so that young, innocent, vulnerable people believe it. That's actually a great way of describing the red pill. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:02 AM
0

YOU are starting with a faulty premise and extrapolating from there. Like TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:30 PM
-1

Just like RedPillers!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:12 PM
0

Basically, guys who really "take" the red pill have descended back into early childhood, but good luck getting them to see that. Haha spot on summary conclusion of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:46 PM
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Because it is ILLOGICAL thinking it definitely is or has to be that way. There are plenty of strong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:22 PM
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Which is ironic because the red pill actually makes men more of a piece of shit, but they can't see it because it's their truth. It's not the truth though. You can't generalize all of women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:16 PM
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What does that have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:05 AM
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Truth is certainly not what it is. It's shared and taught delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:04 PM
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No, not from me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:00 PM
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Red pill will never win, it's evil. I'm responding because I care about you. I don't know you and I don't particularly like you, but I care about you. That's what empathy is. I've been through shit in my life and I don't want other people to feel like shit. Being kind and friendly and empathetic really works wonders. I care about you and all the other sad boys/people. I know you probably won't, but I hope you believe me, that I'm trying to help you, and I hope you seriously think about the thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:09 PM
1

It worries me that that's your response to empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:01 PM
-1

So I don't think you're better than TRP. Maybe you're twice as bad. But I don't care what you think. You have no empathy, think women are worse than men, and admitted you're not a good person. I don't know what you want in life, but it sounds like it can only be bad. Your opinions mean nothing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:55 AM
0

Well that's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:53 AM
1

Empathy and communication
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 10:02 PM
-1

I'm better than TRP because I admit there's no source, unlike TRP who says there is a source and links to one when there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 07:36 PM
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I'm not incel dude. I've had sex before and I plan on having more before this summer ends. You just don't seem like a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 07:34 PM
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No I just don't like you and I don't trust you, so I don't really want to share any information about my life with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:38 PM
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That's kind of personal. If you won't even tell me if you have women friends, why should I tell you who I'm fucking right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:28 PM
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There is no source that can be linked to, only common sense and knowledge. It is unhealthy for you to not have any women friends. TRP has taught you to objective women and women are people like you and me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:26 PM
1

Yes, but that's not my main goal in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:10 PM
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My source is the answer to my question. I'm trying to prove a point to you. Do you have any women friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:09 PM
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I do have a source, but you didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:39 PM
2

Or anything else that nobody but TRP seems to do that you think is good? No, but there's central or unique things that nobody but TRP seems to do that are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:24 PM
-1

Thanks, but that's how everyone has done it through history, so I think I'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:22 PM
0

Because they're all butthurt and jealous that other guys are having more sex than them...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:09 PM
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No. All the good stuff is basic self-improvement anyone can tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:08 PM
-1

I love meat & potatoes! I don't love being taught "lessons" by guys who aren't teachers and don't actually know what they're talking about. I'll learn through personal experiences and social interactions, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:07 PM
1

I would sit her down and have a talk with her about her emotions. I'll tell her I understand she feels hurt and angry, but I would tell her you can't do things like that. Bad people lie to get specific results and hurt someone and my daughter is not a bad person. It will be as long a talk as it needs, I'll answer her questions and let her cry on my shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:04 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:01 PM
-1

That's not the main thing about me. You know nothing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:00 PM
0

Source? How many women friends do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:50 PM
1

Yes I am. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:49 PM
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No I'll give them another, better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:48 PM
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None of my shit or life is perfect, but at least I don't teach lies about how women are immature, all the same, and suck. I believe in the power of empathy. It's strong, and it's wonderful. If everyone could develop it, the world would be a much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:42 PM
-1

TRP's claims on women (and even many on men) are not "scientific fact backed" and are not respected by anyone outside of TRP. I'm not going to do a name to intentionally piss TRP off; it's just that I thought of the perfect name (it's not mean or anything, just perfect) that will kind of make TRP look pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:40 PM
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I know, and yet I'll never do it. No one needs the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:35 PM
-1

No I've got a name for it that's really gonna piss TRP off and show that I'm not joking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:21 AM
-1

Why do they have to earn your respect? Why can't they start out with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:01 AM
0

Ugh I LOVE when a woman acts strong and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:09 AM
2

So these girls let you fuck them but they don't know that you hate or disrespect them and think of them as inferior humans or objects. That's pretty fucked up. That's kind of like rape, like if they knew you thought those things, they'd say no to fucking you. Better to be a successful high SMV man who negs bitches than a mediocre incel who discovers TRP too late. I don't even get what the fuck SMV is and I think I've probably had less sex than you, but I'm 100% confident that I'm way cooler than…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:58 AM
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BECAUSE YOU'RE PART OF SOCIETY. You're a part of the problem dude, you have to help fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:50 AM
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I was right, clearly new and not even red, fella has a lot of work to do on himself, before bashing women. Cool. TRP sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:48 AM
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The inability to rationalize the individual's actions away from the group they (claim to) belong to is a hallmark of immaturity. Wise/intelligent/fair people recognize that a shitty person is just a shitty individual, not a shitty group. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:43 AM
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No but objectifying them (they're women, not food dishes) is harmful, to both her and you. It's a dangerous and unhealthy way to think. People are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:37 AM
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Well, most women wouldn't and shouldn't like it because you disrespect them and think of them like objects. Also, when I said it's harmful, I meant it's more harmful to you and young confused boys. It's a toxic attitude TRP teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:34 AM
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Because I think you'd want much lower if it wasn't illegal. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:25 AM
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Then that's cool, go ahead an fuck them with it. But don't assume all women like it because one did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:24 AM
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Hey you share a lot of the same thoughts I do on this stuff. You wanna help me start a new sub that directly rivals TRP and teaches empathy as a better life social strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:18 AM
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It may work, but IT'S MANIPULATIVE AND HARMFUL. That's why. Why hurt someone you want to be with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:13 AM
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I am a 22 year old straight man... and up until December 2014 I was really depressed and unconfident and anxious about girls. No more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:43 PM
1

What? What kind of a non-answer was that? What specific life experience led you to "know" that women aren't as smart as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:21 PM
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Men and women differ sexually because they have different reproductive organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:02 PM
-1

Oh yeah and what happens after you hit them in the face? Do they say "Ow you got me!" and run away? No, he'll punch you in the face harder and make a point to do it more. I didn't say be weak to him, I said be kind. They're different. Literally walk up to him in the hall in the morning and say "Hey Derek, looking good today (or something else casual and friendly)" with an overly confident smile and attitude. You're not being weak, you're being strong and kind. What's he going to do? Sure, he may…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 10:51 PM
1

Is that... a rap lyric?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 10:03 PM
1

Yeah you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 10:01 PM
1

What are you dealing in?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:58 PM
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Lol ok how do you "know" that I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:57 PM
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Learning to hate and objectify women is not the right first step out of innocence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:18 PM
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Don't call me bro, guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:13 PM
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Haha my bad I guess I missed that. No, I don't know the right answer all the time, but I certainly know the wrong answer when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:07 PM
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I can be perfectly sleazy when I need to be (I don't always feel good about it, but I still can do it) - You shouldn't use sleazy methods to get girls to have sex with you while still not respecting them and thinking them inferior. And that's one thing. But to teach that disrespect and sleaziness to innocent boys just trying to figure out high school or middle school relationships - that's so wrong. That will fuck up their head for life, and they may never know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:29 PM
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Because TRP is wrong and everybody just wants them to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:13 PM
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I'm "crying so much here" because it works for me and it can work for every confused little boy too better than TRP. They shouldn't think TRP's sleazy methods are the only (or right) way to get girls and feel confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:12 PM
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But I don't think the two words are the same thing. I don't love everyone, certainly not every random person I meet - I'm still not entirely sure what love is - But I do treat them with kindness. That's easy, fair and makes other people feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:55 PM
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If someone asked you how to be confident, what would you tell them? I would tell them to think about the one thing about them that they're great at, that they're the best at, and walk around KNOWING they're the best at that thing. You're unique and you're cool because of it. No one can be better at being you than you ever. That's a lot more than I ever heard growing up. People always just said, "Just be confident"... oh yeah like that's helpful, if I could I would. But then recently, it just cli…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:52 PM
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TBP get to hate.... But as punishment for that become hateful people. TRP get to be hated.... But Are you really so blind that you still don't see how much hating TRP does. It's the way worse hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:42 PM
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Then I'll stay here reminding you guys that you're sexist and delusional until you stop brainwashing innocent little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:35 PM
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Is it a movement? I thought it was just a sexual strategy or self-improvement guide?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:34 PM
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Then you are delusional and don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:32 PM
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Everyone, except the people in the sub that use them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:31 PM
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Nah dude you've got "BP" all wrong. They're the ones that know women are just people the same as all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:20 PM
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Nah dude you've got "BP" all wrong. They're the ones that know women are just people the same as all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:20 PM
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Yeah that's the thing that pisses me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:19 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa I never said anything about love. I said respecting everyone. Love is a whole other story for me, that doesn't come as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:16 PM
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The best thing you can do to a bully is treat them the opposite of how they treat you, with kindness. It will confuse them, make them a little frustrated, but ultimately there's nothing they can do to you then if you're just genuinely kind to them. They'll probably even start liking you then. TL;DR Don't give a fuck about them while still treating them with kindness. Nothing can beat that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:01 PM
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Yes exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:59 PM
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Ok, fair enough. I didn't mean it as a personal attack though. I meant it to help him be a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:54 PM
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These guys typically hear things like "just be yourself" which is pretty terrible advice because they think it means to stay the same when what women really mean is become the best version of yourself but they don't say that because they want to protect peoples feelings. First off, "just be yourself" is not bad advice. If you lose weight and get in shape, you're still yourself. What it actually means is be honest and open with yourself and others about your feelings and what you want. Don't lie …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:53 PM
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You know what will make you happier: treating everyone with kindness and respect all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:35 PM
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Haha I know I've come to realize that's the whole point of theredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:17 PM
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If you don't have respect for yourself than why would you expect anyone else to respect you, if you aren't confident in yourself than why would your spouse be confident in you? This is good advice. I don't know why women or how they think has to be a part of it. It doesn't matter at all if you've got that confidence and self-respect down. its more about understanding who women are and what they want based on actions rather than listening to what they say that they want Why would a group of only …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:09 PM
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Well at least you realized it. Admitting it is the first step. Good job
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:50 PM
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they see it and don't mind because it is good for spreading their message to more people. Yeah that's bad. Because "their message" is hate and women are worse/stupid. It's bad to intentionally market hate and bigotry to young, developing minds. You kinda ignored all that nice content in my previous post too :( Yeah sorry about that, but I stopped reading after that first line cuz you lost me there. That "marketing strategy" is the main reason I hate theredpill. It's evil. Think about how Jeb bus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:47 PM
1

Okay I think you're trailing off from the point... do you actually believe King Henry VIII didn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:11 PM
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Yeah that's true. But if it wasn't illegal today, would you try to get one of those 13 year olds, freshly bled, ready for childbearing? If it was legal today like it used to be, you'd go for that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:10 PM
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They went to school for that one thing basically. Did you go to school to major in feminism and gender studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:30 PM
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TRP doesn't preach hatred, they encourage it to get their message to more people Yeah that's the exact same thing... except worse. Theredpill is hateful and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:24 PM
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So you would fuck a 13 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:15 PM
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He may have been fictional, but either way at least I'm not trying to claim ridiculous things about how he thought or why he behaved how he did. Because there's no way I could know such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:12 PM
1

What?! How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 04:10 PM
0

They all should
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:26 PM
1

females rate men You okay dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:57 PM
1

Haha this is so true and well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:54 PM
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I know right! I was in full disbelief and shock the first time I realized that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:51 PM
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...There doesn't need to be scientific proof for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:50 PM
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There are somethings that are obviously true. There are other things that you can't claim are true no matter how hard you want to, because you can't read women's (or other men's) minds and you haven't surveyed the world. Something can be true about a specific person, but it's foolish to think "I saw this happen with this one girl... all girls do that, it makes sense now!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:37 PM
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Well for the basics, Teenager = 13-19 years old. Calling her a teenager well past that age is just stupid and offensive. That's like a bartender denying someone access to alcohol despite showing ID that says they're 35. "Nope, you're still under 21 cuz I say so. Can't serve you"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:32 PM
2

So now you're comparing women's vaginas to a keg... you guys are the worst people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:09 PM
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HAVE A FUCKING CONVERSATION WITH HER ABOUT IT! Jesus, you guys baffle me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:07 PM
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Well that's why it's weird dude, because the stuff you say does make it sound like you've never been in a relationship before. Maybe you need to find a new strategy besides the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:06 PM
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Which is the funny/shocking thing because he's married! HA
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:04 PM
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Because they're sexist and delusional yet they think they're right. THEY'RE TEACHING MISOGYNY TO CONFUSED LITTLE, DEVELOPING BOYS. The top people at TRP should all be ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 02:00 PM
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Do you think women are perceived of by men as taking responsibility for their actions and being accountable for their choices? Most men yes. Normal functioning social men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:58 PM
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Is it "bad"? That's a personal value judgment so whether it's good or bad depends on the individual. No, it is bad. That's a fact. Misogyny is bad and delusional and should not be taught to young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:55 PM
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If they're adult women, then they should, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:47 PM
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Oh really do you? And what life experience was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:45 PM
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If you can somehow read what you wrote through the lens of a normal functioning empathetic human, you'll realize your comment is really dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:44 PM
1

So then you guys gotta stop acting like the shit you say is fact and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:41 PM
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Because they were taught by the damn sexist sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:38 PM
1

Because they have regular people brains and they don't stop maturing in their teens...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:37 PM
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"Hey let's shit all over this thing that I really want to be inside of"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:36 PM
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if you are a man trying to date women, it will give you a good mindset for success, and if you are a woman looking to get outraged, it will give you the clamrage you are looking for. "It pisses women off so it's the perfect thing for guys to get success with women" ... I don't get TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:33 PM
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Well what about all the good, honest confused boys seeking genuine help who accidentally come across TRP? They see that sexist bullshit and are told it's true and to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:29 PM
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But that's creepy and wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:22 PM
-1

Well you're understanding them wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:21 PM
1

So, don't tell them to keep away; people should have and learn that experience themselves, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 06:33 PM
1

It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 06:30 PM
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You say 2 million need that lesson? Out of how many? Well there are about 150 million men in the US. and how do you know that they aren't aware already of rape being a violation of intrinsic moral values but they simply do not care. Well that's the problem. Of course most men know this basic thing, that's not why it's taught. It's taught because those guys that "simply do not care" need to have that lesson. And any smart woman concerned with the well-being of other girls will make sure those men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:56 PM
1

Yeah I asked again because that was vague and not very clear. What "negative tropes" for boys does it create? And if you know you have enough agency to control your actions, why does it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:26 PM
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I do agree with the intent of such campaigns. Because the intent is a good and needed one. That said, I am curious as to what you think the intent is... And I'm also curious what "negative tropes they create" exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 02:37 PM
0

Well clearly 2 million people need the lesson... and it's an important one to learn for men that don't already know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 01:26 PM
0

Are you an idiot? Obviously I know the difference between the KKK and TRP. I'm just pointing out the similarity as well. And if you don't see that, or if you can't see that, then you're clearly too far sexist to help anymore. Good luck to you man. You need it way more than I do. I'll be fine, I've got the power of empathy and respect on my side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:41 AM
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Not a very big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:39 AM
1

It's too early for me to read through that link. How does the mainstream disagree with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:38 AM
0

That's honestly not a lot of hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:58 AM
0

I'm not trolling. I'm completely and utterly honest. I'm very concerned for confused young boys that get trapped in trp. The things you guys say about women are honestly horrid and immature. I don't expect you to believe me because that's like trying to tell a color blind person the sky is blue. I hope you swallow that pride, listen to others and realize you're the one seeing things wrong, before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:56 AM
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Because I don't believe there are far better comparisons out there. You don't see it, because you're in it, but this is the perfect comparison for it. You don't have the violence, but the majority of your guys comments sure do sound like you have that violence. It's kind of scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:44 AM
1

No because you need and want them to have sex with. It's a more complicated kind of prejudiced hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:37 AM
0

Of all the possible comparisons you could have made -- almost all of which would have been a better comparison -- you chose the KKK. Why would you intentionally choose a bad comparison? Because TRP is bad. It preaches irrational and delusional hatred of women and spreads misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:32 AM
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Because TRP preaches irrational hatred of women like KKK preaches irrational hatred of blacks. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:30 AM
0

but they can't get sex on tap Yeah, only rapists can do that. Two consenting adults usually talk about doing it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:20 AM
2

Are you Comic Book Guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:15 AM
0

Okay well I can't really do either of those because honestly, I've never heard a woman "teach a boy not to rape"... so I don't really think it is much of an issue. Where have you heard that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:56 AM
0

No, Feminism is women wanting to help men do the job of keeping civilization running.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 03:47 AM
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RedPill is like the online KKK of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:36 AM
-1

Because redpill advice fills a void mainstream advice leaves. That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:06 AM
1

I do believe men are intelligent moral beings and already have the appropriate moral coding. I believe red pillers who believe and preach all the things on the trp sidebar are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:30 PM
1

Well anyone who wants to be a decent person in life should not listen to you about anything, dating strategy or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 10:14 PM
1

And thus why you're not as great sexually as you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 09:59 PM
1

Or you're a misogynist and thus worse than most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 09:58 PM
1

When people are guilty until proven innocent What about the women you guys always talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 08:29 PM
2

Nobody said anything about BDSM until after that. Your quote stands as it is about life and relationships in general. And I'll repeat your quote about relationships again for emphasis: If there's discussions and safe words, it's femalecentric
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 08:18 PM
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Yeah you got him. I don't think he even realizes how ignorant what he said is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 08:11 PM
1

it's the reason why I personally can't view as "the truth". The truth should be unbiased , TRP is not . Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 08:06 PM
2

No, just welcome to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 07:54 PM
1

Oh man, that sounds great(ly frustrating)! Do you have a link to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 07:53 PM
6

Which is ultimately the problem with TRP and this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 07:22 PM
1

Women are not worse than men. Got it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 06:53 PM
2

Yeah these are the times where I'm just as happy to get a lot of downvotes as a lot of upvotes. At least I'm reaching the target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 06:41 PM
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Yeah no, I still don't know what statement you were trying to get me to respond to. I didn't see a "simple statement" posed anywhere by you for me to respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 06:39 PM
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Well you've never not been sexist, have you? So you actually would have no experience one way or the other of it helps make a girl more attractive to you. I do have experience and not being sexist and treating women like people has made so many more women attracted to me than I deserve with this body. Try actually being non-sexist and then tell me what you find. Until then, your "experiences" about it mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 06:38 PM
-1

Yeah they all have that trp attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:35 PM
1

...What did you try? What are you trying to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:21 PM
-5

Feminists only see men who have the beliefs that TRP has as the problem. Might as well source that too. Well dude, think about this one from an outside view... who else are feminists arguing with besides trpers? I don't know many "bluepill" people who regularly get in arguments with women/feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:50 PM
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You're right I said something that sounded weirdly robotic and I changed my behavior to sound more normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:54 PM
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There's no source on that stuff dude. It's common knowledge - a straight woman who wants to have sex needs a man to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:51 PM
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I never even used that phrase. I was just quoting what the redpiller said. I think any man that has to be taught or told not to rape already has a serious problem. That means they've thought about it, considered it, maybe more... If a woman is teaching you not to rape, don't think it's a lesson every man has to get - they're specifically addressing you and a problem you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 06:22 PM
-5

People just don't talk that way. You sound like a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:02 PM
-4

Yeah, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:43 PM
1

?? That doesn't relate at all to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:34 PM
-5

Well see, you don't know anything about feminists then. Feminists don't see all men as the source of the problem. They see most men as the source of their sex or their happy relationships. Feminists only see men who have the beliefs that TRP has as the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:33 PM
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Someone somewhere said something you don't like, ergo all men women are invincible patriarchal feminist oppressors bent on victimizing women and hurting their fee-fees while polluting their safe spaces with dissenting opinions. Did I get it right? Isn't this TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:23 PM
0

You gotta stop saying the word "female" dude. Are you friends with any women in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:21 PM
1

I clearly recognize how much worse the Nazis are than TRP, but it's interestingly comparable how both groups very negatively view one group of the human population, while the rest of the population recognize that those views are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:15 PM
1

Yeah. This guy admits he's a sexist, but says instead of working to get rid of those sexist views, he'd rather have lots of sex with the women he doesn't respect. I have no respect for this guy and neither should any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:02 PM
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No but that's a lot closer of an analogy than women are fish. Both the Nazis and redpillers are close-minded people who seriously look down on another kind of person, to the point where they think of them like they are subhuman or objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:59 PM
-1

Did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:56 PM
1

you come into relationship where sex is expected and the other partner refuses then there is no relationship. Perfect, then we've solved this problem right? No one is entitled to sex, even in a relationship. You have to build up trust between you and your partner, make her connect with you and want to have sex with you. How do you build up that trust? With communication and things like attention, support, closeness etc. Otherwise, you're just trying to have sex with another women that doesn't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:55 PM
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I've tried but I can't debate the part of his brain that fallaciously thinks women are worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:47 PM
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If they knew the things you say about women, I'm sure they'd want to chop off your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:05 AM
1

But he's right, that was the perfect analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:47 AM
1

No because people naturally dislike misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:45 AM
1

There are vast swaths of TRP that rational people would universally agree on It's the other stuff that ruins those good things and makes TRP abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:45 AM
0

I feel truly sorry for every woman that's had sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:42 AM
3

No, I think the opposite is true there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:37 AM
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So while TBPers claim that they hate TRP for supposedly being shady or sexist, a just as big reason is because: they hate the fact that a man used an improvement guide. No it's because of this: You're sexist and want to get better with women. You can choose to go two paths ---> work to be not sexist or <--- go full on mega sexist and talk to a bunch of other sexists about women. It's really frustrating for us seeing which path you chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:33 AM
1

I'm not BP, but I have that sympathy and empathy for you and all the boys struggling. I do empathize with you, and that's why it hurts me to see you go down the bad path of trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:22 AM
0

Her inability to bond closely after a certain number of partners Where the fuck did you pull that one out of?? That's the BS here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:19 AM
1

All the stuff they say on here that repulses and repels normal humans, especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:18 AM
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you are entitled to sex if You are never entitled to sex. No one is. Check yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 07:16 AM
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Yeah anything where you're being open and honest and not hiding something just to make yourself look better is not manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:24 PM
1

Most people here that call you out do understand your things AND know you're wrong. I just literally don't understand that last thing you said and I'm not trying to hear a terper tell me about empathy. I don't think many terpers have an iota of empathy in their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 01:36 PM
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I don't know what that means dude, but you don't seem to know what much means, so I guess I'm done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 01:31 PM
-1

If they talk about dread game, then yeah they are. I don't think TRP has enough empathy to connect like two people normally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 01:29 PM
1

All I do is put myself in people's shoes. I have more empathy than you'll ever know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 01:27 PM
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No that's just two people connecting and flirting if it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:52 AM
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She doesn't want to have sex You say something to her What you said convinces her to have sex or does not. Be cool and go with whichever one it is. There FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:00 AM
0

Except they would do it in normal, open and respectful ways "last-minute resistance!" can be met with honest talking about the situation or an unrelated casual topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:20 AM
1

Go back to pretending love is made of magic rather than dopamine release. It's funny how you think you're smarter than other people but you don't realize how stupid you sound in your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:10 AM
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I don't know about him, but I agree with everything he's said, and I'm here to convince you guys that you don't need to sell yourself or think this way. There's a much better, simpler way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:08 AM
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Can you humanize humans though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:05 AM
2

Brilliantly put
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:04 AM
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RP store will have more sales (more sex). some will regret it for whatever reason but in the end, the store got what it wanted. it isnt the stores job to make sure that the customer gets everything for a price that is unreasonably one sided. (towards the women in this case). LOVE AND SEX IS NOT THE SAME AS MAKING A FUCKING SALE That's what you don't get. A store's job is to get money from customers. A man's job is not to get sex from women. You're not entitled to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:00 AM
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You're view of "blue" is seriously flawed. You think they wouldn't have a marketing strategy in that sale scenario? Of course they would try to influence an on-the-fencer to buy. Just like they might try to persuade a girl they think they have a chance with to bang. Except they would do it in normal, open and respectful ways that would create attraction, understanding and trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:37 AM
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The distinction I wanted to show is that Blue Pill thinking thinks of people as individuals, and that is an ineffective way to sell to people. LOVE AND SEX IS NOT THE SAME AS MAKING A FUCKING SALE That's what you don't seem to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:20 AM
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No I can't say what most people like. I know what you mean because I know various true examples of both of those, but I also know more people who are in relationships with people their same age. Everybody has their own preferences, and you can't know for sure until you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:37 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:38 PM
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No I wouldn't have sex with any of those guys because I'm a straight guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 12:26 PM
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It was in a post yesterday or the day before. But let me ask you a different question: If the legal age for sex was 16 as opposed to 18, would the age range you listed above be 16-23?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:01 AM
1

Which would matter to me if you could enumerate them. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:55 AM
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No that's actually not up for debate. That's straight up horseshit. How are you going to sit there and claim all women don't mature after 18... You said yourself you don't think this is scientifically true. Why do you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:44 AM
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Understand this: I'm not on a team. I'm not BP, I've never even commented on TBP. I don't speak for BP, but I can tell you that whenever I say something, it is honesty. I try my hardest to always be genuine and honest, to the point where it sometimes pisses people off or makes things awkward. But I do it anyway because telling the truth is just so much better and easier for everyone . Also, and I know you may not believe this but it's also true, I'm genuinely trying to help you and all confused,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 12:55 AM
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Oh I am insecure, and I'm not afraid to admit it. It's a big part of my past and it's still a part of who I am, even though I'm a little more confident than before. That's why I can recognize insecurity when I see it. It's not a shaming tactic, it's a call to rationality. TheRedPill could easily be replaced by three easy steps: Recognize and accept that your failures with women are a result of your own insecurity. Use introspection to figure out what specific things within yourself you are insec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:56 PM
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Why? That was in the past. As long as she doesn't do it while in a relationship with you, what's the problem? But you seem to think this specimen is some type of prize. I think of women as people, not "specimens" and I don't think of them as prizes that can be won. That's probably why I have an easier time understanding this simple concept than you do. Women are people, who are allowed to make their own choices and do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:28 PM
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You can! But you also have to respect that women can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:26 PM
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Well Bluepill doesn't have data, it has successful natural real life social experiences, the very thing many people who seek out TRP are looking for. If you were wise, you would realize the people who don't need TRP are the ones you should listen to. That wasn't slinging shit, that was slinging reality. I think your problem is that you can't differentiate between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:21 PM
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No BP is always saying TRP is delusional, sexist, insecure and immature. Trying to be right and rational doesn't seem to get through to TRPers. Unfortunately, I don't think anything will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:27 PM
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Some things are bad things. A woman's past sex experiences are not a bad thing unless 1) she got an STD from it, or 2) she did not want to be a part of that orgy/sex. Anything else, unless she explicitly tells you otherwise, should not be judged as a bad thing by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:06 PM
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No because committed partner MEANS they're committed to you duh. If there are doubts about that, then your relationship has bigger problems and they stem from your insecurity. That's why they're sluts. No. They're "sluts" only because guys like you are too insecure to be cool with girls having as much sex as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:57 PM
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No, TRP is only good at picking up virgin girls or girls with less experience or dominant traits. Basically as close to kids as possible, that's the kind of girls TRP works on. Good job, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:36 PM
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All of it. All TRP is bullshit. Except the self-improvement/working out part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:34 PM
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Got em! Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:28 PM
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BECAUSE TRP has disdain for people. It's a vicious cycle all started by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:23 PM
-3

But her having been in an orgy is not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:17 PM
-1

No, but your car doesn't have a complex personality that might mesh or contrast with yours differently than it did for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:08 PM
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I mean, everything RedPill says can be easily said in non-redpill terms, except without misogyny. You guys aren't special.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:07 PM
0

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:05 PM
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I wouldnt necessarily believe her when she tells you how she feels about it, she has a lot of incentive to lie. However... Id probably just soft dread make her want me more by taking the RP and working on yourself and your social standing. I'd also be exceptionally strict about my standards for her social behaviour to reinforce the idea that you are giving her a chance not the other way around. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:01 AM
0

And do what? Break up with a girl he really likes and gets to bang all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:58 AM
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I think your problem is you gotta stop with the Pills. Stop thinking about life through RP/BP. Just live life through you. It will make it all a lot clearer and nicer for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:56 AM
0

Do you believe it yourself? Or are you just trying to get them to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:53 AM
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You can't. Their brains are missing something I think. Don't try to hard to understand or get them to help you to understand. They're literally trolls who call people trolls for being friendly and rational to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:51 AM
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No. All women don't want anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:38 AM
1

Women have never liked being raped, asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:38 AM
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Wow you could type three paragraphs but you couldn't type an answer to the question. I guess that answers the question about you and being rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:31 AM
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Because that's not how people get through life. They have to live their own experiences and fuck ups and learn for themselves what that means for their life. And because the experience probably won't be the same for you as it was for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:21 AM
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Not what I said. You need to talk to some girls. Realize that they're just people too. Not female specimens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 12:26 PM
2

Kick-Ass and Kick-Ass 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:13 AM
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If a guy was not famous/rich before he married the female, You gotta talk to some girls, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:07 AM
0

How do you differentiate "sex is all this woman is good for" No, it's "sex is all women are good for" - that's the bad mentality. I don't think you have it, you're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:38 AM
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No I mean it's fine to want a girl to just fuck. You can have a "hot piece of ass" to bang. As long as you don't believe in your mind that sex is all women are good for. That mentality is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 09:56 PM
0

Dread Game is bad. Communicate with your partner if you're having problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:58 PM
2

I've never had an unattractive guy win me over with charisma/charm. Can I try?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 06:57 AM
1

A person new to the internet could sense this stuff right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 05:04 AM
1

I'm being pretty logical respecting everybody's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 04:34 AM
2

Because. Women. Are. Not. Objects. What is so hard about that to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:46 AM
5

k
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:45 AM
0

Part of the word plate and spinning plate comes from the fact that men have to go out and find these women. That's a disconnect. I don't get that. Why call them plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:34 AM
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Sexual objectification is the act of treating a person as an instrument of sexual pleasure. Objectification more broadly means treating a person as a commodity or an object, without regard to their personality or dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:51 AM
1

I was talking about RedPill posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:48 AM
1

That's not true. You are either sexist, immature or both. You have to understand that everyone is a person like you, with different complexities about them. No one is just "a piece of ass," certainly not a whole half of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:39 AM
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Then don't call her a plate. Call her a girl you're seeing or a chick you're fucking. Plate seems so demeaning, especially when you add a number rating on to it. Why not just say "I'm fucking a lot of really hot girls"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:37 AM
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I have a busy life dude. New job that demands my attention. If I had all the time in the world for these comments, I would try to help him out more. I think a lot of the redpillers here need my help. At least the inexperienced ones. There are better ways to get laid than RP. I've been thinking about starting my own subreddit to help those boys. I might do it. It will directly rival TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:35 AM
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I treat women with the exact same level of respect as I treat men. None until they've earned it. That's the opposite of how you're supposed to do it. Respect everyone until they give you a reason not to. Few men or women in my life are deserving of my respect. Why? What the fuck is so special about you? Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:32 AM
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I'm not going to dignify that with a response. Learn some fucking empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:26 AM
1

Because I read posts of people who sound like monsters talking about how they've figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:25 AM
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Obviously working out/getting in shape and flirting/teasing are part of my plan. It's very similar to some of TRP, but it is fundamentally different than TRP because with my plan, you treat women with respect. Treating women with respect doesn't make them horny. No, but it makes them like you. You make them horny through making them laugh and flirting/teasing. treating a woman like a sex object does though. I don't care if it does. It's wrong and you're a bad person if you do (or at least if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 08:12 PM
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I can routinely pull and plate 6s Calling women plates and numbers. You may not be harming them but you are objectifying them, either just for your own personal sex gain or because that's now how you think/your philosophy, but either way it's wrong and it's bad to teach that kind of deep-seeded misogyny to confused little boys looking for help in high school (it's normal to not be having sex yet then; don't go teaching them to hate/not trust women)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 08:01 PM
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No, get told straight up what they're doing that's unattractive and then tell them alternative things to try while still being themselves, loving themselves and treating everyone with respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:31 PM
1

But what did RP add that you didn't have before?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:28 PM
2

Women are not fish. I don't like you, and I'm going to log off Reddit now and go do something else before I say something to you that will get me banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:27 PM
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They are honestly probably sociopaths. Their is something very wrong with all of them. And they just don't get it. They don't get that they are bad people. Well that's actually RedPillers. If you'd care to actually address me, you could have asked me some specific questions. Like for example, you could have learned that I used to be a Nice GuyTM and I don't want any confused awkward boy to go through that shit. It's painful, and it takes a lot to get over, but TRP just lies to them and feeds the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:26 PM
1

never married, no kids, plenty of relationships, one nighters and everything in between. Haven't dated at all in about 4 years after a bad relationship and discovering RP. Sounds like RP made your life worse, or at least made you more paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:59 PM
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But there's going to be plenty of manipulative guys out there who are going to keep doing that, That's what TRP is. That's what TRP turns you into. Please, heed our warnings and be careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:55 PM
1

You are a sad person. I'm sorry no one told you life was simpler a long time ago. Good luck with your life and the SMP or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:46 PM
2

Now... If you want to catch a girl... I know this is just to fit your analogy (I hope) but that is the problem with TRP. You guys think girls can just be caught or gotten. If you want to be with a woman, you have to talk with her and connect on a social, emotional, and physical level. Now... If you want to catch a girl... Come to me. Wingnut is clever too. But you want to ask a clever fisherman, not a clever fish. So you're saying people don't know what they mean and want sexually... they only k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:43 PM
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Think of it like TBP is the guys who are already successful with girls. Join in their mockery of TRP and maybe you'll understand why and how shit works for them. I learned confidence from making fun of Nice GuysTM in /r/niceguys .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:26 PM
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Read some of my posts dude. I'm not bluepill, just anti-redpill, and I'm a feminist, but my concern is helping confused guys cuz I totally used to be one. But TRP is not the right place for that. It's sexist and bad and toxic. Read some of my posts if you want. PM me if you want to ask any specific questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:23 PM
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I became more confident reading lots of satire on /r/niceguys and thinking to myself, "damn, I'll be fine with girls as long as I never do this shit" Worked great for me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:21 PM
3

This is the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:16 PM
1

Okay I still don't get how you've been sexually exploited, but whatever. Just don't rape a girl. Make sure she wants to have sex with you and you're good.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 06:08 PM
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No, you're right. They don't get that by using all this silly terminology, they're not treating women like people. They're treating them like numbers and acronyms on a scale. And dating is between men and women, not men and numbers on a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:04 PM
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Because it doesn't work for getting sex or an LTR with an SMV 5+ in her 20s. That's because you're not actually treating them like people, you're treating them like acronyms and numbers on a scale. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:02 PM
1

But what about how TRP men claim to know how women think and feel? And what they mean. Isn't that wrong then? TRP should listen to women about that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:54 PM
1

So wait, explain to me how you were sexually exploited?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 05:52 PM
1

What are you planning on doing wrong to this girl? If you have normal consensual sex with her, it shouldn't ever come up to police/courts. She should have been happy to have had sex with you.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 05:41 PM
1

Just make sure she said yes and she wanted to have sex and there will be no doubt.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 05:33 PM
3

I think it's a girl. I bet that changes your response, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:26 PM
1

Are you fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:24 PM
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The public messages are in the insane laws that get passed. For instance See here I thought you were going to post some of those "insane laws that get passed"... but there are none, so you couldn't. You just said random stuff that's only relevant to you.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 05:19 PM
1

That is the first comment of yours I have ever upvoted. Good job, listen to more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:12 PM
2

Passive aggressive manipulation at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:10 PM
6

Perhaps this "basic human decency" is not as commonplace as you make it out to be? You gotta be the one to employ basic human decency dude. No one's gonna show it to you if you're acting like a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:58 PM
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I don't think there is a public message. It's very simple if you don't think about it let it bother you so much.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 04:45 PM
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No, it can work for all men. That's how all normal men and humans have gotten relationships or sex for all of history. That's how normal people do it. Those 10-20% of people you think it would work for are just normal people going about relationships and social interaction the normal, regular way, and it's A LOT more than 10-20%. Most people don't have this problem, because the things I'm talking about works. If it wasn't working for you kids before, then you weren't actually trying it - you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:44 PM
1

I'm not rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:38 PM
1

Well I'm not rich. I've got some personality. It's not necessarily good - I'm pretty awkward, but my personality is very unique. And I've been depressed enough to not give a fuck about most things anymore. A charming, unique personality mixed with some (hit or miss) humor and no fucks about what people think about me anymore. Yeah maybe that makes me a 6, but my height and fat surely bring me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:37 PM
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Nah dude, physically, I am a 4 or lower. I'm 5'6", overweight with a big belly and I don't get social cues well. But my first real girlfriend a year and a half ago was smoking hot with huge boobs and, you guys will love this, she was a virgin. I didn't really like that about her though. But it was still hot, every guy that saw her hit on her, and I was often in awe that she did want to be with me, but she did. Maybe I'm a little higher up on this imaginary rating scale because of personality and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:33 PM
1

No I think it is my personality. I have a weird sense of charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:28 PM
1

it's not ideal. Yeah of course it's not. It would be ideal if a hot girl came up every lonely horny guy and offered to fuck him. But that's not realistic. You gotta work for it if you want it. Make her like you, charm her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:20 PM
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I... I don't know how to respond to that...
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 04:13 PM
1

Oh word, that's cool then haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:12 PM
1

Men only do it when they're not getting as much sex as they'd like and they're jealous. But no one takes them seriously, they're mocked and called bitter. Yeah and it's seen as really unattractive, thus creating a vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:12 PM
1

Powerful women are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:09 PM
2

No you don't know my stuff at all. You're so frustrating. The "be nice" and "be yourself" and "treat women like delicate china dolls" advice. So close, but no, not this part: "treat women like delicate china dolls" advice. That part is stupid. That's how you don't attract a woman. The first two steps alone do work. Don't add in your own "Nice Guy" steps thinking you know what I'm talking about. If you did, you wouldn't be in TRP. I prefer treating them like humans, with all the flaws of humans. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:04 PM
1

However, if a man can't really be picky, he has to end accepting whatever comes What? Are you saying men have to be more selective if he can't be picky because of his unattractiveness? If so, that's completely the opposite. If you can't be picky because of your looks or whatever, then you have to accept whatever comes your way, and build your confidence up from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:58 PM
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Being nice s a great way to treat everyone. People respond well to it. The male in your model is simultaneously selfish and selfless. Huh, I guess that kind of describes me well. It's a charming mix apparently, I'll tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:55 PM
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Yeah, but men have absolutely no right to do it to women. We like sex, we fucking love it! Why would men shame women for having a lot of it? Oh and I'm not saying RP is the cause for all that, but the RP attitude is in a lot of sexist men who make this problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:37 PM
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Or maybe the Government and public are just morally good and know what's right.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/15 03:32 PM
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No that hasn't been my experience. So then you don't actually have any experience attracting girls, so obviously my successful method hasn't been your experience. I'm sorry if this sounds mean, but your experience has just been a lot of failures or no-trys, and I'm talking about something that has actually worked. Your quote above is super misleading to anyone reading because it comes off as an attempt to devalue my claim, when you actually have no right to do so... you don't know the positive s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:28 PM
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If you have to learn it, then yes it's fake. Real emotion should just come from you. You should feel it inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:33 AM
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It's because dicks like redpillers make it seem like it's a bad thing when it's really not. The misogyny isn't internalized, it comes from RP, but women sure do feel it. They hear you guys say "virgins are the best" "sluts have low SMV bullshiblabla" and the ones that have extra low self-esteem internalize it mistaking it for general consensus rather than what it is, whining from sexually inexperienced boys who feel threatened by powerful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:16 AM
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Regurgitating all this delusional sexist shit is really harmful for these still developing boys. That's your opinion. We think different. We think your stuff is very harmful for these still developing boys. Oh yeah, and what's my stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:40 AM
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over more time that's not a luxury most men have Well too bad. According to your sub's own beliefs, most men don't have the luxury to choose when they have sex. Only the top guys, right? Most men who aren't rapists will put in the time and work it takes to have sex with a girl they like. What's the scariest thing about flirting with a girl? Not knowing her, not knowing if she'll like you or think you're weird or not, right? A lot of anxiety, which is normal when talking to a stranger. Now add in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:34 AM
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That's because you've never seen or experienced another way that worked, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:16 AM
1

Well are you really a virgin, or is that just a cool joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:08 AM
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I will the day /r/Exredpill's subscription count exceeds TheRedPill's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:04 AM
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You cannot simultaneously "pursue" and "not pursue." Come on, don't you get it? I'm not pursuing anything... It's not a route or a routine or any strategy. It's just genuinely being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:41 AM
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It's funny because those steps you listed are very similar to what I do when I'm being genuinely nice to a girl. Except not listed out weirdly like an approach. And over more time. See, I'm not actively pursuing any of these girls. I just act nice towards all hot girls (who also seem cool) that I mean and come into contact with regularly in my life (like the hot secretary at work). I'm just nice to them everyday with no sign that I'm trying to bang them or get with them. The key to this part is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 01:17 PM
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You still don't fucking get it dude. Wasted my entire high school years doing the genuine nice and caring route. It's not a route or a routine or any strategy. It's just genuinely being nice. The tension comes when they clearly start to like you but you don't change how you act, just keep being nice and friendly to them as normal. As they start to like you more, the fact that you're not actively pursuing them will make them attracted to you. It works miracles. If you're genuinely nice. I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:52 PM
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If you really feel that way, then your sub should have better moderation and cut out that bullshit right away. But it won't because it's the concensus of the sub. As has been stated many times before, some of the worst quotes come from your endorsed contributors. My whole reason for being on this sub and hating TRP is because I am trying to protect confused young boys from thinking TRP and it's toxic beliefs and additudes is the only way, or even a right way to change their dating life for the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:42 PM
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No cuz that's what TheRedPill does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 05:31 AM
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I'm debating the whole subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 05:30 AM
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No, probably lower. I'd say 4, 4-5 maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 01:00 AM
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And did you just make that all up off the top of your head? Or have you actually experienced that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:36 AM
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Sounds like your personality sucks. No, I'm just kidding haha. What's wrong with a few flings?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:35 AM
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RP is used to working through such arguments. BP is not. That's because RP needs to know how to precisely work through arguments. BP does not; they have reason, logic and reality on their side so they do not need a scripted argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:29 AM
-4

The opposite is not true, men of the 5-6 range cannot attarct a women of the 8+ range. I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:23 AM
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So you're agreeing that you and TRP think women aren't human? Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:12 AM
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But pointing out anything bad about women is hate speech now, is it? No, but saying that something about them is bad when it actually isn't bad at all, kinda is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:11 AM
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Do you need the quote albums to be posted again? Don't deny what you guys say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:07 AM
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Redpillers say so much extremely sexist shit about women, it's ridiculous you're denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:06 AM
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Redpillers have actually said so much worse than that about women, time and time again. Do you need the albums to be posted again?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:06 AM
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And they've actually said it many times. Don't let them bully or trick you. You're spot on about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:05 AM
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They've said it and worse many times. Do you need the multiple albums posted again?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 12:04 AM
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That's actually a good way to put it; "beta" nice guysTM are malicious in their understanding, and I'll tell you why: I was taught specifically that being nice and caring and gentlemanly would be attractive to girls. Those things are attractive to girls. Being genuinely nice and caring to a girl (read: not a doormat yesman, that shit's creepy) will definitely make her like you and has a good chance of making her attracted to you for a number of reasons. They really do like that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:59 PM
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If he acts alpha, other guys are going to want him to prove it. So he took a step back. He wanted to take a short cut and get hot girls to go out with him, therefore avoiding having to prove his 'alphaness' to men in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 01:25 PM
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It was a little bumpy in the middle, but then it was clear where you were going. Great post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 01:23 PM
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Because when you see a girl somewhere, don't think of her as "data" for your "sample size", just go talk to her and have a normal conversation. It can add up if you do it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:35 PM
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That's bullshit. He didn't imply anything. A lot of women can be attracted to anyone, famous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:22 PM
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You are constantly evaluated, tested, and put up against other men to see how you measure up. Every waking minute, you know that someone somewhere is constantly putting you in the scales and evaluating you against other men. No, the only one comparing you to other guys all the time is YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:02 PM
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I didn't find my red pill. I didn't need any pill. I had my own pill or whatever inside me the whole time, and seeing all of red pill's frustrating beliefs and discussions has made me more confident in my own natural ability. I believe everyone else has their own natural ability too, no matter how uncool or unwanted they may feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:56 PM
4

He didn't say anything about celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 01:42 PM
1

Oh well then I agree, I just thought that was weird. I think any I see that sorta look like mine are pretty... maybe I'm a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 01:14 PM
2

Is this your wife using your account... or do you look at a lot of penises and judge them...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:25 AM
1

Okay well then do the first one Realize they said it for a reason, take a step back and objectively analyze yourself/your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:24 AM
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You know what else is sad? I am not 6 feet tall. That is super duper sad. Yeah neither am I. I'm 5'6" and I'm pretty sure I'm done growing. I don't complain anymore though, that's not gonna make me taller and that's not gonna make taller girls want to fuck me. I can get laid Oh well then, screw all those guys who can't. They must be losers. Right? No, not at all. I couldn't get laid for a long time. I was a huge loser and I still kind of am. But I'm confident in my ability to talk to any girl no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:20 AM
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If you're trying to get with a girl, and she says something like that to you that you find mean, stop talking to her and set your sights on a different girl. It's that simple. Not all women say those things to guys. If one does say it to you, there's two things to do about it: Realize they said it for a reason, take a step back and objectively analyze yourself/your actions. Tell them to fuck off and go find another girl who likes you for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:10 AM
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But it didn't sound like anything other than a girl having her preferences in who she wants to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:00 AM
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Well then I don't see what's wrong with her wanting or expecting a 7 or above guy. Makes sense, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 11:39 PM
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I only really disagree with one small part of what you said. Men are not shamed into lowering their standards via "feminist shaming tactics"... whatever those are. It's not even shaming that makes men lower their standards. The truth is, if a man can't attract a conventionally hot girl, but he wants to have sex, he simply must lower his standards in order to do so. It's a fact. No one is shaming or forcing him into lowering his standards, except for his biology. If he wants to have sex, he must …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:46 PM
1

How hot was that girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:37 PM
2

Well the harm in that is within them, if they really have no empathy for anyone at all. That is unfortunate, and no matter how much sex someone like that has, I will always think they are worse people than those that can empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 11:21 PM
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I don't think there's anyway for us to really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 11:20 PM
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If it is then that's sad. I can get laid and I try my hardest to treat women/people well and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. If you have to become an asshole or a worse person to get laid, that is very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 11:19 PM
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I'm ENTP ("The Debater") It's actually pretty spot on for me, but this one part really stood out to me as the reason for why I comment here so much: An odd juxtaposition arises with ENTPs, as they are uncompromisingly honest, but will argue tirelessly for something they don't actually believe in, stepping into another's shoes to argue a truth from another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 11:17 PM
2

Yes! This message needs to be shared with all red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 10:40 PM
0

the nice kind behavior was the default state. the asshole behavior is an act, and RPers are getting better at it the more they practice. So they're just actually becoming assholes more and more. It's not an act.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 10:26 PM
2

No, but I'll also go talk to that girl and have a regular conversation with her about something unrelated to sex with no ulterior motive for talking to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 08:33 PM
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Oh I'm not claiming to be expressing any views of the feminist movement. I'm just saying I disagree that it has any effects on men, let alone that it makes them ineffectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 08:30 PM
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Sexually objectifying someone doesn't mean you can't be nice to them, sure. But sexually objectifying all women, to the point where you find out a redditor is a woman and first thing you say is "Boobs" that's a problem. That's a sexually inexperienced misogynist too stubborn and jaded to see we're all just people. Ummmmm, they are basically being treated like sex objects and sex toys only prized for their boobs and appearance at a party, and the possibility of hooking up with them? But girls who…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 07:23 PM
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they're subhuman filth If anything they have more human than skinny people. ...But I suppose that's not a joke you'd appreciate. They aren't "subhuman filth," fat people are people too, just with a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:43 PM
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Okay but many woman don't want to have their hotness remarked on and made to feel sexy just any time (like walking to work) by some random person. Right? And yeah, I agree with you. Women have it SOOO much worse in other countries. But how can they be helped when the red pillers here think the bad is already over for women and it's time to switch back to helping men? No, the momentum is just getting going here, and once people realize the small problems need fixing, we'll finally be able to help…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:35 PM
0

When were girls not treated nicely by guys? And I go to college. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:28 PM
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So they don't need to hold the door open at all. But who's to say out of school, when that football player goes to the bank and there's someone walking in right behind them, he won't hold the door open for him/her? Also, the holding the door open was just a general example of doing something basically decent for someone without expecting something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:27 PM
2

I am a man, not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:20 PM
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Real nice guy/person: treat her with respect, be at least a decent human in general area (holds doors open just because someone's close behind them, not because they want a thanks) Nice GuyTM : is (overly) nice to girl because he wants to have sex with her or be her boyfriend - never expresses his interest or does not respect her rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:17 PM
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No, you are still wrong. Every girl, at every age (okay except for a few that have special problems) wants a boyfriend/lover that will be nice to her. In public, he may come off as a "bad boy" to others and maybe even seem mean to her, but that's just your perspective. Chances are he's a really nice guy to her, and that is what they mean when they say they want a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:07 PM
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Dude you're not hurting me, you just look like an idiot incapable of hearing opposing viewpoints when you say it that much. It's just like when a non redpiller is making a fairly good point, but then says "all you TweRPs won't get that" and he keeps throwing in "TweRPs" and the like. You know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:03 PM
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How are women treated like garbage in first world countries anymore? Simple. There are tons of guys in America who look at woman as useful for nothing but sex. They see a girl and they think, "She's hot", "Look at her tits," etc. It's just natural thinking for so many men that don't know they are sexist/don't know they're hurting, but they do it all the time. They think like that, and they bring that mentality to work, to social situations, to their relationships. That's been going on for thousa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 05:56 PM
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Everything you and I say and do takes place in a dominant framework constructed and sustained and evaluated by feminism. How? Are feminists setting up all your opportunities in life and watching you go about them, evaluating whether you did them right or not? No, of course not. The truth is, you shouldn't even notice feminism (the movement); feminism shouldn't effect you at all unless you want it to (joining the movement), or you let it (directly opposing it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 04:50 PM
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How can you talk about "special snowflakes" like that's some respected, scientific term? Your constant use of that phrase makes you come off as demeaning, very biased, and rather unintelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 04:37 PM
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A lot of girls claims they want a nice guys- reality? Nope. You are wrong. They do want a nice guy who is also attractive, has a personality and will take care of them. My main question for you regarding your post: Are you a muscular guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 04:27 PM
3

What does that even mean? Everything is saturated and marinated in feminism?? I literally don't understand what you're trying to say with that. Are you trying to say that everything we do is based in feminism? Because if so, I don't really get how that's true. It only is if you yourself let it be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:27 PM
1

Have you ever been fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:25 PM
3

Yeah, I think you're reversing the cause and effect of this. Feminism isn't making ineffectual men; men already predisposed to be more ineffectual are feeling threatened by feminism and thus realizing their ineffectuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:09 PM
0

I don't know about that. Have you ever been fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:06 PM
1

No they don't. Everyone hates "Nice Guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:45 PM
4

No, feminism's role has simply been fighting for women to not be treated like shit anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:42 PM
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That's bullshit. You can't see past your own red pill clouds of smoke, but try to remember that for all of history, men are the gender of humans that have been treated favorably and paid money. Women have gotten the cat-calling short stick for so long. You have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:41 PM
3

Mostly all people are decent and nice people. Every guy has bought dinner for his date for most of history. Guys that complain that their niceness isn't getting them laid are not nice people; they are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:37 PM
2

Okay that makes you appear to be the ignorant one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:34 PM
2

Great quote! That show is so spot on about so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:33 PM
1

From you? Doesn't sound like it. Never does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:30 PM
3

Are you a fucking psychopath? You get off on other people's pain and suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:16 PM
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Yeah that's exactly how it's supposed to be. I do it that same way too lol. And yeah, then it sounds like you're actually a nice person and not a Nice GuyTM .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 05:06 AM
1

No I disagree. I think anyone who calls himself that is in the second category. You're trying to make someone believe you're nice. Why would you need to do that if you were actually nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:41 AM
2

That shit doesn't work like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:28 AM
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There's a difference between bring genuinely nice and being nice to a girl with the intention of having sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 01:20 AM
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