They are not even substitutes. The only people I see even making the claim they are substitutes are women who feel that if they validate the male claim that sexual and romantic success is actually something most people need to be happy, they then may be put into a position where they’d be expected to provide it for men they are not physically attracted to
I think that there is often little meaningful difference between who women want on dating apps and who they want irl. They are not looking for one demographic of man online and a different one irl. They are looking for the same demographic in both spaces. In fact online is probably a more accurate representation of what women want because they have the ability to take the mask off and not be polite for the sake of saving face and safety.
No cause being a virgin is an inaction. Being a whore is an action. You don’t have to do anything to be a virgin. You have to do something to be a whore. Whore is a choice
No it’s actually cause women hold the monopoly on sex and reproduction in 99% of cases. And even if we did shame dead be dads nothing stops cause women still select from them
I think women are actively lying about how quickly they decide if a man is attractive or not, what physical traits are desired by the absolute majority of women, why women reject certain men, the subjective vs objectivity of looks, and how women behave in modern dating
So either you’re genuine which means you are part of the 0.00000000001% of the female population which is cool and to that I’d say I wish you the best in finding your person and most likely if you’re just genuine, kind, and nice to be around you’ll definitely get a guy to fall in love with you cause that’s really all you need to get a genuinely interested man to fall in love with you. Or you’re fucking with me rn.
I guess if you’re chasing Chad (like all females presumably) it would be good advice. But the average to below average man is not concerned with any of this and simply just wants a woman that loves him back
Like if a woman actually is a victim but she seems like a bitch and has a long sexual history I think we should at least lessen the punishment for the man or something
I do interact with them at work and public depending on the circumstances. And online. I just never give women the benefit of the doubt, I accuse every woman online who shares a story of rape or sexual assault as a lair even though I don’t even read the their story nor do I care to, I don’t hold doors open for women, I don’t say excuse me when I have to get past one, I don’t say please or thank you to them. I just do small things to make their day worse if I can
Yeah I definitely agree women do act entitled but still point the finger at men saying men are the true entitled ones. I like to think back to the “Tinder Swindler” where not a single one of his “victims” ever questioned why a multi millionaire young attractive international business man would be into them on a dating app. They all immediately assumed “of course a man like that would be into me”. I think that shows the female entitlement and delusion. The female 100% acts AND believes it’s entit…
I think a lot of conservative policies in a lot of states will actually get close. I mean most conservatives do want to slash not only abortion access but any and all assistance from the government to the woman and child
It will never apply to me so I don’t care and I actually don’t disagree I’m just more interested in trying to punish women or make their life harder in any way I can
I think we will get to a point where men just feel like punishing women and removing social safety nets in general to make life as awful for them as possible
Look at Texas where they are trying to ban no fault divorce. And you act like Chads would stick their necks out for women they genuinely view as fuck meat and holes.
But men want leverage over women and will not give that up so if those things aren’t leverage then something else will have to be and I don’t think women will like it
And now it should go away. A woman who gets knocked up from her casual bf of one night stand or whatever should be on the hook for the kid and the decision
I cannot think of any good reason a man with no dating prospects or strong female bonds would ever support feminism in any way. I feel that morality is subjective and an argument from morality is effectively no argument.
Due to my treatment from women and interactions with women irl and online I am finding it increasingly difficult to empathize or sympathize with women in any capacity at all and I do, to some degree, view them as a class of enemies with opposite interests that are directly detrimental to my own
I’ve gotten the impression that the blue pillers are trying to convince a lot of men for which there is no hope that there is hope to prevent them from going further off the deep end and becoming legitimate threats to others
How is it news that man get angry and women and that anger can turn to violence? Not saying it’s right or good I’m just saying that’s is a real possibility
Yeah what we don’t like to hear is that it’s all about personality, every woman has a unique taste, the dating app preferences don’t translate to real life, the bullshit like that
The reason why they were driven off is cause the men they are attracted to are only looking for sex and the ones they aren’t attracted to tried to talk to them
Female nature is being highly selective of looks and physical characteristics. Male nature is looking for ways to completely circumvent or nullify female nature.
I think part of the reason women created the myth around personality and non physical traits as the reason for most rejections is because if they admitted to a man it’s their physical body that’s preventing them then that man may become violent and enraged and might take it out on the woman so it’s in her best interest to always blame it on something a man could hypothetically change about himself because, if she maintains the illusion that there is always a chance then she may be shielded from …
Good looks can eclipse a bad personality but a good personality can’t eclipse bad looks. Most women actually think of it as the opposite but the truth is if you truly are physically ugly women really don’t care what your personality may or may not be
This entire sub is men saying “women are almost exclusively going after the same small group of extremely attractive men who poses the same physical characteristics” and women going “nuh uh”. And then when pressed they either say “well do you expect me to date someone I’m not attracted to” or “but men….”
It’s sexist but it can be justified to an extent. I can understand that some women who have been victimized in the past might hold this view for the their own safety and due to not wanting to be revictimized
Being anything isn’t attractive when you’re unattractive. And most women have at worst a normal looking guy that they dated and considered it “charity work”. I think most women do have a little bit of a misconception of what an actual average to below average guy looks like
Not any better than any other “pill” or ideology. I’ve come to accept that my views and beliefs are completely irrelevant in terms of attracting someone or not
After reading this post and replies. I’ve come to the conclusion that almost every debate is men saying “the vast majority of women are only attracted to the same small number of conventionally attractive men that poses the same physical traits” and women going “nuh uh”
I don’t disagree with that I think you are just widely overstating the different women different standards thing. I think most women have near identical physical standards for what man they want despite what they themselves may or may not look like. I think many women are also aware they are looking for a man that would traditionally be out of their league but they are also aware of the current dating market and the advantage they have so they don’t care
I’ve ready a study that was released using the hinge statistics from 2023 showing women on that app at least have almost unanimous agreement of which men are and are not attractive
Like usual on here. Why do women fear just coming clean and saying “yeah we are almost exclusively attracted to the same physical traits that are primarily influenced by genes and assigned at birth and if you don’t have those there’s near nothing you can do and I’d like it if you’d accept you’re gonna likely be alone and leave us to pursuing the men who have these traits so we can all fuck the same few hot men”.
I mean yeah. The reason they don’t do it is because they don’t need to and they are self interested before anything else but I don’t think there’s a single woman who would disagree that if every woman dated her looks match a lot of problems would be solved. It’s just that they don’t want to do that cause again they are self interested
I think it’s actually just frustration that these people occupy managerial positions and are seen as useless at best by most employees, male or female, that do most of the heavy lifting. This just fuels the idea that the modern marketing, HR, social media management jobs are just adult daycares for post grads with no real talents and are often midwits meaning they are too intelligent and educated to be stuck in a McDonald’s but are too stupid and ungifted to excel and innovate new fields.
