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I agree on that, you can be vulnerable and ask for support when you need it, but that person is a support, not a replacement for actual healing for your wounds. OP gotta be in charge of pursuing their own healing, an SO can assist but not carry the whole burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:28 PM
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Yo the older I get, the more true this is for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:40 AM
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Is it wrong to have a placeholder GF? Yea. Wasting both of your time and using her. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:32 PM
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The solution: never doing anything nice or making any sacrifices if the other person doesn’t make a similar sacrifice or gesture. Never let other people have power over you. Disagree. It's possible to be giving and affectionate while maintaining frame - the difference is if a person is doing it because they are seeking approval/validation, or if they do it cause its fun to them. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:28 PM
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What leads you to believe this? The dishinibition that drug use may lead to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 10:19 PM
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Wow the mods are weebs, look at these pictures I’m SMH
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 07:18 PM
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Assuming he wants to? He just talks to his friends and says "Hey I like being your friend but here's the new boundaries cause I have a gf now. Whether you're cool with that or not is besides the point; here's how I'm operating now." If they don't abide or get angry, cut them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 12:09 AM
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I got plenty of friends, men and women, so I'll take a shot at this. how do you decide whether or not you want to be friends with them? Does their attractiveness matter? I'm slow to relationships, but once I feel myself drawn to them and I catch feelings, then I decide to pursue something beyond friendship. If I don't feel that, I don't do it. Attractiveness matters, there's never a time where it won't. However when most of your female friends are attractive, it becomes a matter of character and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 11:35 PM
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How many close friends? I’d say 3 guys, 3 girls. I got a bunch of friends, both gals and guys. I’d argue yes, if you got a wide range of friends (definitely including those of the opposite sex), your odds of getting a gf/bf increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 09:51 PM
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Yay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 12:04 AM
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Do you expect your wife to tell you? Would you consider it family money? Yes on both accounts. What would you do if you inherited $15,000? Do the same: tell my wife and consider it family money. As to the actual use of it - probably address any immediate needs, set some aside for big purchases/renovations, tithe 10%, and use the rest for fun. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 10:41 PM
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Are you asking for advice, or using your specific example as a means to debate on a certain topic? Needs more clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 05:20 PM
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This is really a statement for men suffering from resentment, aint it? ​ I didn't date much in my 20s, but I feel good about it. The only thing I want is to have a better idea of dating and flirting, but hey when I get around to it I'll learn it then. In the mean time, just have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:53 PM
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lol it would actually be something if there were actual Chads doing the teaching, not incels venting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:48 PM
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We probably wouldn't have a TRP if mentorship was culturally enforced - it's an attempt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:44 PM
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Debating which gender is MOAR romantic is mental masturbation. Who cares - just go love your partner and celebrate their presence in your life while you got the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:38 PM
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If you're suggesting that we should have mentors to teach and guide us (especially in areas of our lives where we are lacking), then yes lets have more mentorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:33 PM
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Ok. Be confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:14 AM
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Well then, put yourself in the girl’s shoes. She’d like it if you were more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:35 AM
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We’re throwing a Valentine’s Day party at my house for singles only in my church. Gonna be lit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 12:46 AM
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Never
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 06:02 PM
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If being confident even if you don’t feel it is an act of dishonesty, I would think then we’re all liars for a multitude of things. Why tell someone to be nice, if they aren’t really nice? Or be strong, be focused, be aware, be humble, be loving, be patient, etc. If being something you’re not feeling at the moment is a lie, no ones honest then, which is incorrect. Edit: this should go double for an LTR - sometimes you gotta be things you don’t feel like in order to support your partner. It would…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:56 PM
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Yea but, what exactly about it makes it dishonest? We know dishonesty ain’t great, but what about acting confident is dishonest? I also don’t care too much about the pill individual views, I’m purple pill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 04:23 PM
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Hey with respect, it’s a little naive to think good looking folks ain’t getting cheated on, rejected, etc in the meat market here. So, why on earth is it “dishonest” to act confident even if you’re not entirely confident? Here’s a good one: if I don’t know how to cook, I guess I’m gonna act like I do cause I gotta figure out how to cook some roast beef. Guess I’m highly culinarily dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:59 PM
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Confidence and physical attractiveness are functionally the same thing So this is what I was disagreeing with, to which you didn’t bother to actually debate my answer. Ok then. Welp, let’s move on to your clarity - why do you think confidence cannot be based on something other than looks? What about actual good looking guys with no confidence, and hence they ain’t getting laid? As I implied in my response, confidence is a skill. If you’re not good at it, act it out until you become familiar and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:42 PM
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Replace dishonesty with practice. Also what about the example I said
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:16 PM
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Pretty much, be in the world but not of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:12 PM
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Yo, that lady is literally the Samaritan at the well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:01 PM
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Confidence and physical attractiveness are functionally the same thing Disagree to a degree - there are some real ugly mfers who are getting laid just cause they got confidence, game, and personality. I like to think about my neighbor for an example who is fat, ugly, and suffers from paranoia mental issues who’s got a gf he bangs on the reg. Now if you’re super obese and nasty like all the way, all that confidence probably doesn’t mean much so let’s exclude the extremes. Confidence (charisma, ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:59 PM
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Well then I'd say you're probably normal and not obsessed about your partner's sexual past. Congrats lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:52 PM
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LOL I’m not in academia or publishing some tell-all book, I’m just talking with nerds on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:13 PM
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yea but who cares about literature when you can have experience. I'd rather make my theories from what I see not internet weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:02 PM
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Hey so I have a theory, but I gotta relate it to video games. Some games are heavily narrative-driven, so the focus is on the story and whatever perceived meaning is inherent within. Other games are more mechanics-driven, so their focus is on the simple joy of interacting with the game and doing cool fun stuff. ​ I think people who obsess over their partner's sexual past make sex a heavily narrative-driven act, rather than making it purely a mechanics lets-have-fun act. Hence, the perceived agon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 07:26 PM
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Hey I wouldn't say it if it wasn't my experience being on both sides of that. Dudes gotta invest more in the people around them, be a part of their community and not be afraid to show a little love. I think some guys are afraid of getting vulnerable with other guys cause they want to be competitive and impressive, or they think it might be gay. Working theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:57 PM
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Yo let me expand on that too as a guy. I think men often put too much social burden on their girl, so when they are single it can be crushing. I've noticed the difference in my life from when I wasn't social at all while single, to being very social while single. When I'm very active and close in my friendships, finding a relationship isn't an overwhelming desire, but instead feels like "hey if it happens then great. If not, we're going rock climbing tonight and eating some chick-fil-a, later ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:21 PM
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Insightful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 03:34 AM
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Chaddhartha - incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 07:32 PM
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yea you know what, I was really just replying to that quote rather than your whole post. I take back anything I threw at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:25 AM
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Hey I can only reply to it as it's written, I don't know the OP. If he's not a native speaker then ok I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:10 AM
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why does it have to be this way? Sure but when it's phrased this way, it sure doesn't sound like just a curious george kinda question. Sounds like a cry for help or something oH GOD WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:06 AM
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You make a good point about 'why', but OP uses 'why' in a manner that comes off more like complaining and self-pity, rather than something exploratory for the purpose of self-betterment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:56 AM
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What is it that you’re trying to convey with that? Or is this a pseudo-moral thing you’re trying to communicate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:45 AM
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why does it have to be this way? This is the question you ask when there's some character lesson you didn't get growing up, and now you gotta learn it as an adult. So instead of asking 'why' (and veering dangerously close to woe-is-me mentality), figure out what to do and get to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:06 AM
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I’ve never heard any virgin shaming IRL - I think they shame themselves and worsen it by reading the bitter grievances of other virgins online. Slut shaming is much more prominent and easy to find IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:37 PM
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Lol warriors, wizards, etc etc Y’all are missing out, it’s way better to be a healslut
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:03 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:37 PM
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I’ll agree, but it’s to an extent. I think gaming is fine as a passion if it exists with other passions. If gaming is the SOLE passion of a person, yea you can bet they’re gonna be on the weird side of things when it comes to either their personality or hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:32 PM
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Happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:58 PM
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Nice does not equal good. Mean does not equal good. Figure out what your purpose is, love on the people around you, do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:48 AM
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That's also an interesting response - do you think your faith allows for homosexual dating? Edit: That may have come off aggressive. I just want to know your opinion lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 05:55 PM
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That's interesting - that would be a cool topic for us to talk about one day. ​ Different question: if you (Lord forbid) found yourself divorced and single again, would you hold off on sex until marriage if you wanted another relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:32 PM
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Lol this is edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 10:21 PM
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Ok cool thanks for the answer. Also I hate autocorrect - I meant to say “law of large numbers”, as in if you cast a wide enough net you’re bound to get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 10:51 PM
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The questions assume the “or more” type of feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 10:40 PM
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You don’t think law or large numbers applies? If you have many friends - wide social circle - eventually having many female friends, one will be interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 10:38 PM
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Dude I feel ya, it’s hard being sexy in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:48 PM
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More efficient, as in to have more options? Why isn’t it efficient to have many female friends from a man’s perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:45 PM
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Could they handle such sexiness though? Shield thy eyes brothers!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:35 PM
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Do you think it's possible to ride out those feelings until they go away?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:32 PM
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What do you mean by tightrope? How do you experience it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:28 PM
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Yea I imagine if the feelings get REALLY strong, backing off might be necessary. Do people wait around though for their feelings to get strong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:25 PM
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Let's go further - what kind of benefits should you be receiving from a friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:24 PM
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>Even then, I question the benefit to the man of that friendship. Do you mean in a cost/benefit sort of way? Or does being a friend for the sake of having a friend not count as a benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:12 PM
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Probably should, but attraction can both refer to physical and feelings so I left it as is to let discussion happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:11 PM
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Hey that's something to explore - how do you handle that friend situation when a) its sexual attraction without feelings b) sexual attraction w/feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:10 PM
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>and eventually the feeling passes Yea I guess we don't read about it too often, but it definitely happens like that a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:08 PM
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>What do you mean by attracted I mean when you have feelings for the person. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:03 PM
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What imbalance of power is there in a friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:02 PM
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>sometimes things suck I think some people want a resolution to their feelings instead of accepting the situation and allowing themselves to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:00 PM
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Highly disagree, INFPs are the most sexy men possible, but ISFPs are bros too so I can live with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:25 PM
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Yeaaaa I know it! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:04 PM
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Also isn’t it universally agreed that INFPs are the sexiest men?????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:59 PM
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I saw that and I’m still shook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:04 PM
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This is one of those things where you wonder why anyone would disagree. Who on earth thinks marriage & children are such a non-issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:33 PM
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Submissive doesn’t mean doormat in my world. To be submissive simply means to yield to someone recognized as the leader/authority. You can have all the opinions in the world, be a fully formed adult in all ways, be strong and bold and have your stuff together - and still be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:33 PM
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I am in complete ignorance of what “legal sexual equality” means when you say that. That being said, I’d be for the complete banishment of porn. Let’s go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:25 PM
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Didn’t really date them, I always liked the sweeter ones. Grand epiphanies? I dunno, pay attention to those who pay you attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:43 PM
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Any girl that overtly picked on my ended up having a crush on me. So I don’t know, you be the judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:01 AM
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It’s not respectful, can hurt others, and a little messed it. That said, I’ve done it and had it done to me. I think it’s become a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:00 AM
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I imagine frame to be an analogy for having a solid core, a firm foundation for yourself. This allows someone to be able to be themselves, take risks, boldly express themselves, and actively take charge of their own lives. In my experience as a man, having a solid frame allows for masculinity to really flourish in a fun yet strong way. Now how to build frame? I don’t necessarily have a formula for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:36 PM
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That’s a great way of explaining it. Where I’m from, we call it being “covered”. When we go pray for someone of the opposite gender, bring someone of the same with you (if your a guy praying for a girl, ask for another girl to come with you and vice versa ). If you’re not on a date, hang out in groups. If you’re having meetings, bring someone along. If it’s something sensitive, bring their discipler (who already knows all their sensitive stuff anyways). Those are examples of being covered, getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:16 PM
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This is mean spirited.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:36 AM
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incel movement What movement? Dudes whining on the internet and the occasional nut job shooting someone? Yea right, there’s no rebellion ever happening (even then, who’s the enemy? Who do you rebel against? What do they get if they “win”?)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:40 AM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:08 AM
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listens to communist podcasts LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 12:30 PM
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Yassssssssss
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 10:19 PM
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Tried that once with someone I knew well in-person before moving away. The distance itself between the two of you needs to be short lived; all the communication in the world doesn’t replace being with someone face-to-face nearly everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 03:12 PM
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You’re dating a girl, at least 2-3 years Lol if I don’t see it between 6 months - 1 year, I’m not marrying that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 02:54 PM
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Be very social, JBY, do things you’re passionate about, practice good hygiene, workout/play a sport, and have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 02:53 PM
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Do you mean to say that some men won't get married, or are you referring to the "foreveralone" crowd? ​ They seem to mostly wrestle with low self-esteem, depression, anxiety, and other similar issues that hold them back from forming such relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 09:28 PM
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Sure, I’ll give it a genuine shot: ——— You’ll think this is a platitude, but it’s not - form a relationship with Jesus now, and find a community of loving people who are passionate about Him; don’t look for people who are “religious”, find people who truly live out Matthew 22:37-39, and learn to live it out as well. Your future self wanted to commit suicide out of depression - this is what changed his life. You’re on the way to this make-it-or-break-it condition already, let’s change this now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:26 PM
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How similar I am to my girl will vary from relationship to relationship. What matters how complementary we are to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:19 PM
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Can’t wait to see the results on this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 09:45 PM
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There’s only one way - by how much time are they investing in me. Is it the same amount they give anyone? Or do they spend large and frequent amounts of time with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 09:38 PM
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Flirting is a game and should be treated as such. It’s just a fun normal thing to do, with the added potential bonus of a date, getting laid, etc. it shouldn’t be taken seriously. Some people just flirt for fun, not looking for anything beyond it. I personally don’t flirt with married/engaged couples; I will flirt with just about anyone else who is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 09:31 PM
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You make me smile <3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:56 PM
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If you don’t have the DTR with me, you best assume I’m seeing other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:52 PM
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When I’m dating, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:31 AM
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My score from taking the test: Physical Touch: 10 Quality Time: 9 Words of Affirmation: 8 Acts of Service: 3 Receiving Gifts: 0
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 05:00 AM
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Oh perfect, see I’m already a 10 outta fucking 10 in both looks and personality, so hook me up geneticists! Let’s make ubermensch babies!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:43 PM
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NO THATS DiShOnOrAbLe FORBIDDEN 🚫
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:29 PM
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This is a bizarre question; the point of RP isn’t to hunt for a unicorn - no woman is above AWALT. If any RP believes in NAWALT, they’ve missed the whole point of AWALT to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:06 AM
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No It would be nice to get a courtesy text, but it’s not necessary. Nothing matters until it’s an exclusive LTR relationship anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:16 PM
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You just want random internet people from a controversial sub to make strange assumptions about your relationship? Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:47 PM
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This is extremely a “who the fuck cares” kind of post. Question: what are you trying to ask us? What point are you making? What kind of discussion are you looking for? Or is this some narcissistic shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:43 PM
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Edit: Oops I replied to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:42 PM
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To have fun. Not every time you date someone are you looking to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 02:44 PM
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Disclaimer: I read the post, not the article. How exactly did that show ruin her life? She doesn’t state how old she is, what kind of opportunities she missed...only that she now is thinking about getting married (which I’m sure is still possible for her).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 02:35 PM
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Were all trash now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:34 PM
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Answer: a big ole “depends on the guy!” It always going to be both, just depends on the degree and the type of man we’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:13 PM
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I didn’t say that. Whether the degree of one’s commitment fluctuates with the degree of one’s emotional availability is a separate topic. Your post only mentioned the latter - you should consider revising your post if you wanted more discussion focusing on commitment. Otherwise, you will confuse readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:41 PM
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willingness to commit That’s a strange definition; literally the first time I’ve seen anyone interpret it in this manner. Emotional availability deal with emotions, and usually is about ones willingness to open up and share details about someone is feeling. I’ve never seen it about committing to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:28 PM
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The title of your post suggests they should be afraid of this. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 03:51 PM
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If so...what’s scary about beta game if it’s for a FWB situation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 02:21 PM
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What are you talking about? All alpha no beta = chaos, criminality, fighting All beta no alpha = “husband material” but dead bedroom You’re not going to have sustainable LTRs without beta
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 01:31 PM
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No shit, alpha to get her wet, beta to make her stick around. So of course beta game works, it’s just being a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:32 PM
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Is this sarcasm? 3/10 implies she’s ugly/unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:05 AM
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Maybe, but I think people are much more prone to that type of thinking when they don’t do much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:01 AM
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Wow incredible, it’s like we’re rediscovering that BOth beta and alpha traits are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 11:00 AM
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Flirt back. If I’m not interested, at some point ill let her know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 10:38 AM
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Wow millennial when will this generation actually grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:25 PM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:56 PM
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When you do get some sense, I’m visiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:55 PM
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Nah, but Tampa is my home town. Though I haven’t been back since I was 12
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:41 PM
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Depends on my mood. Central Florida can be a little bland, but I means I get anywhere I want in the state if you give me a couple hours
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:39 PM
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Yea but then I’d have to move. I got a house here, family, my whole church fam And I can hit the beach every weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:38 PM
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Project Coordinator, technology/government contracting 50k
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:18 PM
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Love to me is like happiness. The harder I chase it, the less I’m able to grasp it. When other things fall into place (values, attractiveness, having fun together, etc etc), love for me seems to be born as a side effect. As to what role love plays: it’s the electricity in the air. It what changes my brain from thinking dude can’t wait to hang out tonight to She’s wonderful, I can’t stop thinking about her, need to get her the fuck over here now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:27 PM
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Yo sensitive people can’t just walk in guns blazing or they’re gonna get the non-stop, pop pop and stainless steel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 07:44 PM
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Fucking roasted 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 07:24 PM
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It would be good if my partner changed for the better. It would be bad if my partner changed for he worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:23 PM
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I wonder if it's some worth in sharing these on an edit? Never hurts to do so. Anyone who comes in here in good faith looking to have conversations in a manner that’s intellectually honest - that’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:06 PM
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No suggestion really, I wouldn’t know where to best gather your data to test against what you receive here. But I will say this: PPD has a little of everything, but are probably overrepresented in RP and incel thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 04:23 PM
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Lolol the only data in PPD is anecdata
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:55 PM
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Love to see a graph of the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:07 PM
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What gives you this skepticism? I can believe it when people say they don’t want a virgin/chaste person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:31 PM
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Yea there’s differing opinions on this. But also don’t forget you’re in Reddit, so it may not be the best source of real world information on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:16 PM
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Ok so it’s about partner selection, not just attractiveness. So, I’m not going to speak on behalf of all men (I think most don’t care THAT much). Since I’m arguably a religious Christian, I’d see chastity as a sign of a growing relationship with Jesus, which is a critical value I need in a partner. Chastity in and of itself doesn’t matter all that much, but the fact that it shows someone may believe in Jesus and is growing in their faith would be a positive sign to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 01:51 PM
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how do you weight chastity against attractiveness They’re separate things, one doesn’t finish the other. If someone REALLY wants a virgin, no amount of attractiveness can make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:51 PM
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Chastity doesn’t have anything to do with attractiveness. A chick can be hot regardless of how frequent (if ever) she’s had sex. Chastity is more revealing about values (and possibly religion), which would matter more for s relationship. For the purposes of just physical attraction? None of that matter except that booty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:59 AM
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What is a mom joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:22 PM
1

Finally someone gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:45 AM
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If you are awkward as fuck with socializing, then you gotta practice it - that's making a skill. Learning to express yourself and exploring the depths of your personality and emotions - not something learn day one. It's a skill. Hell even learning to "be yourself" is it's own skill. I argue that creating a system can be good for learning these things, and could even help pave the road for other people who don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:06 PM
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I'm bury sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:03 PM
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It would be a grave mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:59 PM
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I spy with my little eye, someone who doesn't understand the terms "alpha" and "beta". Alpha and beta are behaviors that lie on a spectrum. You can do something that is beta, and in the next moment do something that is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 12:37 PM
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Is TRP as a whole targeted at that specific audience? No broader than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 05:05 PM
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TRP is prescriptive - although its emphasis is always on getting laid (whether it's ONS, STR, LTR), posts very often talk about fixing/building other facets of an individuals life (which in turn help with getting laid as well). Therefore, it's aimed to assist men who do not have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:28 PM
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normal well-adjusted individuals who have done alright in their romantic lives. If you disagree with this, then I'll assume that you mean TRP is for normal dudes who are happy with their current romantic situation; I fail to believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:43 PM
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Your question only matters if you're posing it to normal well-adjusted individuals who have done alright in their romantic lives. TRP was not created for those people, it's there to attempt those with certain issues (and whether you think it's effective or not is up to debate).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 03:21 AM
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damned if you do, damned if you don't All of life is damned if you do, damned if you don't. You can't base your life decisions 100% around other people's metrics (assuming you're not out for murder or similar). Just date a lot until you get one that wants to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:53 PM
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Agreed, so long as the responsibility for someone's happiness belongs to themselves and not to me, we can agree that a person can make another person temporarily happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:26 PM
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Tell 'em girl, you tell 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:24 PM
2

You were on the verge of being poetic, before going robot on it. So close!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 06:28 PM
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Finally, someone who gets it. Those terms have been so abused, they lack any stable definition anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 08:20 PM
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Stop me if I sound crazy, but what if many if not most people do not gravitate to the extremes, and just have fun frequent sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 06:39 PM
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Extremely disappointing answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:28 PM
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Stop speaking in generalities - be specific as to what particular items they take from "good" and "twist", and what do they twist it into. Otherwise this is a nonsensical debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:22 PM
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Lol I highly doubt one of the main themes of TRP involves fighting for peace and love. Unless we are talking about the infection of incels that incubate the TRP sub, TRP isn't about good or bad, just getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:57 PM
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What the fuck does this have to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:38 PM
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I liked this. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:38 PM
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Sexist > autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:53 PM
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Again, abuse of the terms. The idea that we're calling a person an alpha or a beta is incorrect. Alpha and beta refer to behaviors, not people. And from this, we can begin to use the spectrum analogy to understand where we are in at AT THAT MOMENT, not as they are as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:23 PM
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That's precisely the problem, the terms have completely lost their meaning, and the idea of an alpha/beta spectrum has been lost. It makes me a little sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:36 PM
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Yea because people abuse the terms "beta" and "alpha" to astronomical proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:35 PM
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Betas are fine, it's good to be beta. Betas get laid. Omegas are not doing well though, I can see why they hate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:12 PM
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Which? 🦄 or 👱🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 08:30 PM
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It's a debate sub. You're going to be challenged by a multitude of people with vastly different beliefs and intellects. Stop whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 08:22 PM
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Are you referring to an actor with severe asthma (in which they can just stop the scene and take a break whenever), or a string of individual fictional (i.e made up) characters that all happen to have asthma?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:56 AM
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Playing sports is difficult when breathing is severely limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:45 AM
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Those are good ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:44 AM
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I agree, but I want to pose a slightly out of scope question: What about boys who are unable to participate in sports? Such as those with asthma or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:58 AM
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Replace "selfishness" with "Be yourself", And you'll begin to have an idea of how they use that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:56 AM
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I'm sure you view it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:48 PM
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Damn dude you're talking about someone's SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:47 PM
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todo lo que sigue a continuación, es natural
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:58 PM
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un hombre no espera para aprovechar la oportunidad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:53 PM
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I have SUCH a good personality. That's all I need right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:48 PM
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Your take is a good one. It's not that rejection shouldn't hurt, it's to make it less so. Wherever you leave your heart, that's where you get hurt the most. Which, begets the question - why put it in the hands of a stranger you'd approach for a date? It's not to shame others for their feelings or past mistakes. We should expose ourselves to new paradigms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:55 AM
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You just wait until Spring Break motherfucker. You'd have fun here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 11:12 PM
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That's nice, but rarely happens. Also boy, when you hitting FL and bringing them Tennessee whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:24 PM
1

Then win by losing. Make a game outta that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 08:30 PM
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You brought it up first, if it doesn't matter then let's not talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 07:55 PM
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You're writing style hurts to look at, but you make a fine point. I like the cut of your gib.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 07:44 PM
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"Hey negrita, tu culo es muy bonita. Te gusta chorizo?" ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:47 PM
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Even the article says not to take things personally. Also, if it's like physical pain, does this mean you can't take a hit? Not even a slap? Rejection can't possibly be on the same level as being shanked to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:46 PM
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++ Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:15 PM
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The SMP is the lottery. You can get rejected by a stranger or someone you've known for 5 years and masturbated to every night dreaming she was yours. You can get rejected either way. And you can find a long time love from a close friend or a stranger. You can't possibly know the outcome, you just gotta ask and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:03 PM
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How do you know it has serious potential if you're just meeting them for the first time? Or is this a scenario where you beta orbit for a year prior to working up the courage to ask her out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:58 PM
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You can be Porky Pig and I can be Bugs Bunny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:56 PM
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What limits this to casual encounters? Whether you get rejected cause you're looking for a relationship or a fun night, you still gotta ask and risk rejection. Besides, if you ain't even good enough to get a ONS, what makes you think you'd get a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:48 PM
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Yes, hence you face it head on, a practice in paradoxical intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:47 PM
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This implies that talking to a girl requires an immense amount of effort and is painful every time. Which, if that's you, sucks. If only you let it just be fun, who cares about if they reject you? That's part of the fun. This is Outcome Independence my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:41 PM
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I'm losing you. Can you explain clearer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:39 PM
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Get rejected 100 > giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:37 PM
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You are wounded before you are rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:35 PM
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Can you truly be either of those things if you let small things wound you deeply?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:32 PM
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Who cares about women approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:32 PM
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Which is a blessing - she does you a favor by rejecting you. Now you can move on to someone who does want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:31 PM
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All that is fine; let the rejection roll off you. If you embrace failure, it can't hurt you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:30 PM
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What's that gotta do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:15 PM
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If I were to be your personal life-coach, I would go into further detail. I'm not. So use your intellect to understand me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:14 PM
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What are you saying? You play the game for YOUR fun. Your statement does not appear to disagree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:07 PM
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Hahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:53 PM
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It's not a denial of emotion, this is what "game" is - making dating and shit into a game. It's supposed to be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:37 PM
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You're not being rejected for your identity, your being rejected for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:36 PM
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That's interesting, cause I'm definitely not Catholic. I hang out at small itty bitty churches where they are Jesus freaks. I find that people are halfway Christians to be self-righteous and condemns ending, but those that go all the way are rather humble and endearing and encouraging. So when I get rejected asking s church girl, it's always an amicable thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:54 PM
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Glad my church girls ain't that crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:49 PM
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That bitch is nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:47 PM
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Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:29 PM
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This is funny, because you're projecting on to me that I'm projecting onto women. Of whom I didn't even think about when I said my own opinion. This is madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:27 PM
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I'm amused you cannot see why my ridiculous response shows why your response is equally ridiculous. I posted a response without any regard for women. It doesn't mean I forgot they existed, I just didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:20 PM
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Did you think of puppies when you made this response? Did you forget that puppies exist entirely?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:14 PM
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I didn't think of women when I made that response.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:13 PM
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We should get some lunch together! Are you... Yes I'm asking you out. No thanks. Ok cool. [getting rejected is not traumatic guy, stop making it out to be some big deal]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 02:07 PM
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Is this a shit test Shit tests and the likes are not a political phenomena. That stuff deals with relationships and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:02 PM
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Another reason to learn self-defense and own a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:47 PM
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It's as if it's normal amongst all predatory species on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:45 PM
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even if she's weak and vulnerable That only makes her even more a target for getting used.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:43 PM
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I was looking for books in our county library, when I skinny early 30s woman looked at me and said, "Wow, are you a model? You looks so good." I laughed, thanked her for the compliment, and then left her there. I wasn't interested. I wanted books.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:45 PM
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Wrong, Chad is never first in theory, he is first in EVERYTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:19 PM
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Getting rejected is a good start. I say this without sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:10 AM
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Learn to take a fucking hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:27 PM
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To respond to your title: it hasn't affected gender dynamics at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:30 PM
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some obscure game Oh shit I don't know obscure games. I think I'm not a gamer either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:20 PM
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If you had no motive nor any intentions, you wouldn't have created the post. Therefore, it's always relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 08:49 PM
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++
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:55 PM
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In fact, in publishing this thread, my intention was to expose the lie behind the "Blackpill" position, which is: "Give us what we want (the truth about female desire) and everything will be better." Listen, I'm not going to do some Professor Xavier shit and try to read your mind. If that's your intention, state it clearly in your post. Stop assuming things about OP (me, in this case) and discuss the question at hand, please. Anything else is unproductive. No. If you don't believe it, state that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:48 PM
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No I don't think 11th grade sex ed should look like that. (they do sex ed at 11th grade?! I though it was for 6th grade.) Y'all are too busy trying to win an argument rather than just trying to win in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:25 PM
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I have female acquaintances. Whenever one of them becomes a friend, they end up asking me out. It catches me off guard every time too, cause I just wanted a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:57 PM
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"Ever-present" I wouldn't describe it as such. I would say...ready-on-command. I don't think most men are CONSTANTLY horny, but if a hot chick walks in front of them, then yea they can right then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:48 PM
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Damn dude, don't forget you're talking about someone's SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:26 AM
1

Lol if only the incels had your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 02:10 PM
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You can think as you like, but you must behave like others. Anyone remember that Law?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 01:29 PM
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Yes obviously. But my dick is on command for the one that's paying me attention, not the babe that doesn't care about me. Now a hottie that is paying attention to me? Well...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:27 PM
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Lol if I heard that in my pulpit, I'd find the next church. Their pastor is weird. In what world is the way someone looks an assault on me? Facially disfigured individuals would also qualify as assault upon my psyche for causing involuntary mild disgust and pity! Make it stop! Put a bag on his head!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:29 PM
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Tl;dr - if you weren't born with peak attractive genetics, then get fucked (figuratively).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:26 PM
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My dawg. I ain't getting numbers from chicks I don't wanna fuck UNLESS I HAVE TO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:26 PM
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I suppose so. They feel as if they are made up rules. But perhaps that my lack of insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:46 PM
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It will never cease to amaze me why people have odd non-self beneficial moral codes eithout some sort of religion involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:26 PM
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Yes, but do you wake up each morning and ponder whether or not you are following the morals of humanity, for the benefit of humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:07 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:03 PM
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Positive or negative for humanity Does anyone actually live out some morals for humanity? Is this a religious question? Cause I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:02 PM
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I don't think you understand what a pity party is. Sympathy is just "I feel bad for you feeling bad", because that person isn't ready to start feeling better yet. It's like an ability on cool-down in LoL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:30 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:28 PM
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You got that backwards. You misinterpreted the situation, and then disagreed with your own delusion of it. I'm saying without disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:18 PM
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I'm blaming you for your misinterpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:11 PM
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No, I'm not - I don't represent all of RP and all that. All I'm saying is - a woman can be RP without being team Man, or hating on her gender. How? Because RP is different from TRP. League of Legends is fun! So why is the fan base for that video game absolutely toxic to the point where other players quit the game? Who knows who cares, but there is a difference between the game and the fan base.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:08 PM
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Yes, some comments within TRP are bigoted, and a bunch of other stuff too. RP is more akin to a recipe used to bake a cake, and TRP says the cake is a whore. Understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:04 PM
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This is like asking, "What's the difference between Westboro Baptist Church and Jesus Christ?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:00 PM
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Then why believe that some women are TRP, when they are clearly RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:55 PM
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You have confused TRP with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:24 PM
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To be RP does not mean to be Team Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:20 PM
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My dick, wits, and fists is all I need to offer!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:05 PM
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Lol sleeping guys like me - Christian dudes waiting for marriage? I wonder how she broke the others!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:42 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:44 PM
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Red Pill is for regular dudes that have trouble getting women. As of late, TRP (the sub) has been populated by incels and other losers. There's a distinction, no kool-aide involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:49 PM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:35 PM
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So to be clear, the issue isn't the fact that they learned different, it's that they acquired bitterness/misogyny along the way. Am I correct in this interpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:14 PM
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I only date women I'm attracted to NOW, not some time maybe in the future. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:56 PM
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Great quote. Take my upvote. Kendrick is dope.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:52 PM
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This is exactly what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:09 PM
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You annoyed us both relentlessly and consistently. Do not be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:26 PM
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Like 5 or 6 my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:20 PM
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😵 🔫
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 08:12 PM
1

Solid answer. Wasn't it always like this though? When did alpha/beta refer to anything besides character traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:32 PM
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Perhaps, so long as we don't interpret it as "pretend now to have flaws in your character".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 02:29 PM
1

Interesting response - why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:30 AM
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Because everyone has different emotional needs, you're only a high value person to those whose needs you can satisfy. Solid response. Should I assume this also applies to external things? Attractive body, money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:29 AM
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Well thought out. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:52 AM
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SMV = Sexual Market Value (I.E. things that make someone wanna fuck you) RMV = Relationship Market Value (I.E. things that make someone want to LTR you) What will happen is that girl will ride with me due to insane SMV and try to pin me down, e.g. increase RMV. Interesting proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:40 AM
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Solid answer. What about the opposite? Great RMV, with little to no SMV? (I know it sounds pedantic to ask, but you never know on PPD)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:37 AM
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A person can JBY while doing anyone of these things. Even in the first two - it could be in his nature to pursue friendship over personal enjoyment, or being himself involves regular deception for a gained (if even minimal) benefit. Which is why JBY can be such a vague thing - it can be interpreted to mean nearly anything. I could be the worst of the worst or the best of the best in any imagined thing, so long as I desire it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:35 AM
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I suppose not many would try for a man with super high SMV and zero RMV in your opinion then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:27 AM
1

Interesting, you're not the only one to distinguish high value from highly attractive. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:22 AM
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Sounds like the high value man in your interpretation has earnest principles that have strong foundation within. No say about appearances, status, etc. - are these things largely optional for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:10 AM
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Hey well, I'm definitely not knocking the value of hot chicks that rocks his world in bed. Even then, the very concept of that complaint does signify that RMV is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:08 AM
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If you said "Valuing RMV higher than SMV is nonsense for men", I could find that to be an interesting position to debate upon. But zero RMV and all SMV? Are you sure this isn't an exaggeration?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:01 AM
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While I think JBY is it's own topic, I understand the principle you're outlining. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:59 AM
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You're second best in all contests, but never first place. Oh that could be fodder for a very interesting and tragic novel! But yes I understand what you mean now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:56 AM
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Solid answer. <3 I also thought of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgWHsit77E4
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:11 AM
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Could you go further in detail? Why would potential dating candidates and the perception that everyone hits on them, be defining factors in deterring why an individual is high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:09 AM
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It appears that your high value man is a well rounded individual in nearly every conceivable area of life - is this a correct interpretation of your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:07 AM
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Monetary status and good looks - these things compose the high value man in your opinion? What would a high value woman be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:04 AM
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I can appreciate the sentiment behind that idea, but it is rather subjective. If your code is about being the fuckboi, does that mean you're low or high value? (I understand that sounds like a pedantic question, but I'm still curious)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:02 AM
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High value is primarily appearances? Internal character traits, or even monetary value and social status, these things are secondary or even unnecessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:00 AM
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Thank you for your perspective. I see that all the things that you listed are character traits - is your idea of a high value man limited to internal values? Money, status, respect, recognition, accomplishment - are these completely optional?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:59 AM
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SMV only? What about the RMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:56 AM
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Commitment to ambitions and highly regarded appearances - this culminates in the high value individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:55 AM
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value is what we assign to objects/people/ideas based on our values How subjective! Does this mean that if such a calamity as you describe would happen, would women branch swing en masse to men aligning with their newly changed values?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:53 AM
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High value does not equal high attraction? Could you go into more detail - it is an interesting distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:49 AM
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So for you, it's simply: there's more good than bad to him. Simplistic and easy to understand. A jack of all trades is an expert in nothing. In the same way a man who all women like is loved by none of them. Doesn't this also mean that he has many options before him? That many women have an interest? Perhaps being a Jack is not entirely without its benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:49 AM
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Can't remember ever using any cartoon for some template for dating, but here's what I watched: Courage the Cowardly Dog Ben 10 Teen Titans ...I know I watched more, but can't really remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:44 PM
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No I didn't watch that shit Definitely not - no one I knew even talked about it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:37 PM
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Oops, didn't see it was for BP. Apologies for the snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 05:27 PM
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Last time I checked it means "All Women Are Like That". It doesn't mean every woman with no exceptions on the planet act exactly the same, as robots equipped with female genitalia. It is supposed to be used as a general rule, and as such has exceptions. How are we still debating the absolute fundamental aspects of RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 05:24 PM
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I totally forgot about that. I'll write it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:49 PM
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That's difficult for me to quantify; I'd have to check my feelings. Serious enough: She's mine, my heart doesn't want to let her go. Not serious: She's great, but can come and go in my life. I'm not that attached to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:01 PM
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I think that's a good thing to take into account, but only when the relationship is serious otherwise, I'll just do as I please
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:21 PM
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AF/BB expresses a spectrum, much like the terms alpha and beta do. Most men are a mix of alpha/beta, with some more on the beta side or more on the alpha side. With of course, those few who are 100% beta (loser fucking doormat nice guys) or 100% alpha (drug dealing convict serving time for murder) Seeing as most men fall in between such extremes, within the norm, I fail to understand how your point refutes the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 10:34 PM
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I don't understand how these things refute the concept, rather the continuous spectrum, of AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 01:40 PM
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So what's this scenario? Get fucked or die? Shit, I'm a dude. If he said "fuck me or die from disease", I'd fuck. I can scheme ways to replace and remove him later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:35 AM
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Unless that fury is going into the weights, it's probably not so productive. Which, I guess we don't have to give a shit about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:36 PM
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What do you mean by respect? I like it. Femininity is fun to be around, sometimes annoying as fuck, mostly alright. Dunno if that means I respect it or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:33 PM
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Should you ignore the debate? Yea sure, especially if you're having fun and getting laid. Debating and arguing online is fun though, so do as you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:31 PM
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Yea a man can fall in love without sex. However, 9 months without her reciprocating that love? Next that shit, come now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:29 PM
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Lions don't have it easier, but it is more exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:53 PM
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Do we allow leading questions like this on the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:39 PM
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Your wife gets breast cancer. She loses both her breasts, goes bald, and loses 30 lbs. Yea but does she still got dat ass??? That's the real question. More to the point though: I'd see her through her illness and support her to the best of my ability. Your wife quits her job which pays $100k a year due to extreme bullying and harassment bringing her depression and anxiety. If this comes to pass, I'll do what I can to alleviate the depression and anxiety, while also getting her to see a therapist…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:21 PM
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I remember mine being physical touch and quality time. So I guess I understand both ideas: Love is an action - something you do. Love is inherent - you just love that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:14 PM
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The answer is both. They do not feel safe enough IRL to vent out their complaints about dating and women, but do feel safe anonymously on the internet to do so. There's plenty of self-help material and sexual strategy on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:05 PM
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First time I've ever seen the Love Languages brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:03 PM
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Yea but then he's damned for "discrimination" when he won't see women one-on-one, but he will do so for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:16 PM
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Sucks, but I can understand that viewpoint. The male congress man is damned if he keeps female staff close by in close one-on-one proximity, and damned if he goes out of his way of avoiding such circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 01:05 PM
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Are they really? I'd like to read some of that, got a link? I don't doubt you, it makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:54 PM
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What a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:31 PM
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Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:23 AM
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I shouldn't have brought up power It was confusing. Let's move on. This gets more into it Right, I can see your point now. There are plenty of men who enslave themselves to their father - remaining forever dependent on him for some sort of stability that they refuse to create for themselves. This does not contrast against my opinion though. A man who freely chooses to pursue a field that happens to be the same as his father's, does not automatically chain himself to such dependency. The struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:48 AM
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Perhaps it's far more common for women to follow their parents interests. That's a shot in the dark. We've yet to even prove/disprove why dominant men would not follow the same path as their fathers. And just because there's a power vacuum doesn't mean someone will take it. Then why bring up the point about power vacuum, especially when leveraging such power within the family brings very little benefit. "Oh your a doctor? Cool." Unless your family pools all their money together and acts more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 12:29 AM
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You didn't lose me, I just don't believe it's exceedingly rare for a child to hold the same/similar interests as the parent. You say it's about filling a "power void", as if necessity is the mother of innovation, but I don't think it's natural for most people. I don't think most people go "Hey, there are no poets in this family! I could stand out and be that guy!" People have their own interests that they pursue, not because of a power vacuum within the family that forces diverse specialization.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:08 PM
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I don't understand this. The father can mentor his son about how to obtain a PHD, academic and real world applications of physics, and how a career would shape up in such a field. Not to mention, if the father has a good reputation within his field, he can leverage those contacts to assist his son attain employment. In your example, the father's work is like a head start for the son. Why not use that advantage, especially if the son has a genuine interest in physics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:56 PM
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Ok, that sounds symbolic and romantic and all, but how does that play out in real life? If someone's dad is kind, strong, ambitious, and well liked by everyone around him...you'd not want to do the same thing? How does one slay the father in this instance? Come now, let's bring the ideals and make them relatable to real world situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:40 PM
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So a combination of both - their faith in your opinion is backwards and not well suited for our society, and you find their "fakeness" to be distasteful, if not entertaining. Edit: Typo. Changed fairness to fakeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:09 PM
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Curious. How do they inspire your hate? Because of dedication (and thus you despise their religion) or because of hypocrisy (they're two-faced)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:02 PM
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He's (as far as I understand) very religiously Christian and principled. I don't find this a surprising remark - I find it somewhat admirable that someone would stick to his principles so closely. Whether it's actually true is another matter. For the information we currently have, I find nothing unusual about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 09:53 PM
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Oh, I assume we weren't talking first encounter/date circumstances. I thought this was like, the relationship is young and both people are getting to know each other, and the topic came up casually. we all want to grow up to exemplify the best part of our parents That's a big assumption. I've seen plenty of people who have respectable parents who grew to hate them and/or rebel against them. The way a person treats and views their parents/family is a sign of the individual's character. Of course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:00 PM
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I'd imagine it would be normal if you asked about his parents. Interesting response though, as I'd find someone who spoke about their parents that way to be admirable. If a woman told me that she looks up to her mother, is close to her, and wishes to be like her as she grows - I would find that impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:53 PM
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I'm not sure what hero worship necessarily entails. Let's go further. If a man says, "I think my father is a great man and role model, and I want to be like him and make him proud," is this a turn off?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:42 PM
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I'm sure there's plenty that do. If the world was predominantly religious, instead of increasingly secular, it would be RP vs [insert religion that restricts sexuality].
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:41 PM
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emulated his father For curiosity /u/SmurfESmurferson, why would this be a red flag for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:34 PM
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I imagine that many Chads are like this. A guy that's the AMOG in a club or party type culture may well be out of his element in sports, academic, debate, tournament, video/board game, music, etc. settings. In my opinion, Chads that are "on top of the food chain" in all settings and social circles are bound to be rare. Circumstantial Chads are more likely to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:29 PM
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At this point in the debate, I no longer see it as Red Pill vs Blue Pill, since that implies that Blue Pill has any sort of unified philosophy or principles. It's more Red Pill vs The World, which makes the argument that much more frustrating since there's a million viewpoints to try and justify TRP against. TRP may attempt to address the "lizard brain", but to say that the rest of civilized society completely neglects this at all costs, is an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:24 PM
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Some decisions a person makes, cannot be told to others due to fear of reputation destruction. This is one of them. If you desired a relationship with no secrets, everything in the open, you've already made decisions which threaten that ideal. If you don't desire such a relationship, then nothing is lost. So long as you're not as risk for infecting your partner with an STD, you can carry on by not speaking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 05:26 PM
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It sorta turns me off, but not in any sort of manner that actually makes me perceive her to be sexually unattractive. I just no longer view her as sexual, despite her appearance, beautiful or not. I'm more apt to look to her as a leader, and I feel no need to sleep with the leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 08:10 PM
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Why does the Red Pill have to explain anything about this photo? Who out there has claimed that the most powerful men in government are disposable at a moments notice, like the common worker drafted to war? I'm a normal dude, and I realize I'm 1000x more disposable than the men in that photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:13 PM
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-5000 cause I don't want to deal with anyone so politically minded or deal with the Clinton family. That said, on a purely physical scale? She has a body ranging from 4-6, but a face hovering around 4 for me. I just don't like the way her face looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:09 PM
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I'm not going to weigh in on Chelsea Clinton's looks. I'd go with the woman who's a 5-6 but has a great personality. edit: Well since OP pressed, I guess I will weigh in on her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 03:01 PM
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Strength is respected. America's enemies should be scared, and seeking peace with us, rather than imagining how they may take us if we appear weak. That said, a leader needs to know how to speak both languages - be bilingual in both strength and nurture. Know which is appropriate for the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 07:52 PM
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As long as the female CEO brings in real positive results to the company and inspires the subordinates to obey her, Don't care about "nurturing leadership". The ability to inspire respect and get results is the most important priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 07:39 PM
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Right but its a similar sentiment that can be compared. ( I know you replied to SetConsumes, I'm no longer addressing that)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:27 PM
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It's magical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:26 PM
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I don't hate fictional people lol. Dishonesty in a fiction creates interesting scenarios and juicy drama. The build up and fallout is absolutely entertaining, especially as the web of lies grows. In real life? Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:13 PM
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Dishonesty is not like a hammer, a simple tool to be used at one's discretion - in discussion it is amoral. In practice, it is immoral. That is playing with fire, especially in the case of femme fatale where the intent is to extract a benefit from the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:08 PM
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Using dishonesty (faking interest, leading someone on) to manipulate them in order to achieve a goal is a malicious act. The femme fatale hurts her victims by giving and taking away a false love. If she were upfront and said, "Let's trade. I need X, and you want to get laid.", then it would be a business deal and not a femme fatale manipulation play. That's like saying a serial killer and a friendly fire are the same thing because the victims of both die. The road to hell is paved with good inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:03 PM
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You're taking it very literally. Yes the siren's song was so strong that mere mortal men were imprisoned by it, forced to pursue their own doom at the hands of sirens. No, femme fatales don't actually have super powers on the level of mythological beings. Now that we've put aside that... They are similar to one another. The femme fatale's "song" is the manner in which she wields her feminine charms to captivate men. While her intent may differ from actual homicide, she's still using (and potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:55 PM
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From the victim's point of view - this might as well be the same. Alluring and charming, with ulterior motives lying in wait. Either she uses him, or she uses him & leaves him in a dangerous situation. The siren and femme fatale must be treated the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:47 PM
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You say this, but it isn't how I've seen it defined. Femme Fatale is a stock character of a mysterious and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers, often leading them into compromising, dangerous, and deadly situations. This is similar to a siren.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:41 PM
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Isn't it arguable that femme fatales are women that lure men into disastrous situations? Besides the monstrous nature of the siren, wouldn't the siren and femme fatale be similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:34 PM
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Their way of integrating masculinity into their ministry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:30 PM
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She had children? Instant no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:29 PM
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It's less the religion and more church culture. Masculinity isn't really promoted there, though there have been movements that did focus on it, such as muscular Christianity, or more recently Fight Church. These are not so popular though, and masculine men in church are difficult to find. At least in white churches, can't say for other race demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:21 PM
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We're on the same page then. I also don't know how often it happens - Lord knows how often men get into leadership positions out of connections than ability. Happens with everyone - can't respect it either way if I find out. I also understand the "evening out" thing when it comes to gender disparity - last project I was assigned to, I was the only male. New hires were also all female. It was eerie. Some of them were really good at their job, some not. I decided to tread carefully, do a good job,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 03:09 AM
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Yes I am a man. And I understand your point. On some deep level though, it pisses me off. If she gets the position because she deserved it and beat out the rest of the competition - she has my respect, through and through. If she gets he position only by merit of her gender and not by her work - I can't respect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:35 AM
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I guess some people really care about that. My priority lies with the candidate with the best resume and highest potential. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:21 AM
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I consider that sentiment to be silly. I just want the person who's most qualified - who gets the job well done. Some people may care about the gender. I just don't. I don't mind following a woman or a man, but they best be good and command the respect of their subordinates. Hate weak leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:08 AM
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Great comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:29 PM
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Who cares about the female CEO? I just want a CEO that kicks ass and makes the company money while providing stellar leadership. Don't care about the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:18 PM
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I don't think Feminists hate men. I just don't hold them to the same standards as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:16 PM
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I heavily dislike lying. I can understand the uses for dishonesty, especially for white lies and such, but it's a piss off. Lies of omission are less offensive to me, but when I catch one, depending on severity, I won't say anything about it. But I will think, "Oh, I'm not worth full disclosure..." I prefer not to lie, and just deal with the fallout. Rather just keep things open.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:53 PM
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Sort of a catch22. Either be masculine, and people wanna mock you for it. or Don't be masculine, and people wanna mock you for it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:41 PM
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Incredible. It's such a very common thing to be told - even I've heard it a couple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:37 PM
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OmLili - you've never heard of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:35 PM
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I disagree with this. It's a natural thing to work hard, not be rewarded, and be angry at the outcome. Like working hard at a job, but still being unable to meet standards, and getting fired. It's reasonable to be angry. So why must this be different from relationships? To work hard at attaining a relationship, or sustaining one, only to see it never happen/fall apart - anger is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:28 PM
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This could possibly be the stupidest video out galaxy has ever produced. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:00 PM
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I wouldn't tell people IRL I discuss human sexuality on a regular basis on Reddit, a site that seems to have a reputation for being "only for neck beards".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 02:50 PM
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It ain't about being obtuse, I'm just surprised is all. You were saying it's like a story with a melody, but often times didn't bother to listen to the story part of it. If that's your personal habit, you do you. If it's the norm? Then I want to know why this is the norm - that's the interesting part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:46 PM
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No...most people I know, actually know the song lyrics. It's like going to a restaurant, ordering the dessert, and never taking a bite. Mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:24 PM
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Short answer: We're not paying attention to the fuckin lyrics dude. I don't understand this in the least. When I find a song that sounds good, first thing I do is look up the lyrics. I want to understand it in its entirety. To each their own, but it's such a foreign concept that anyone would ignore the lyrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:57 PM
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I think I can agree to everything you said, except for the arrogance part. Arrogance can be used as a flimsy cover up for fear, but it can also be represented as over-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:18 PM
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So, in your opinion, is the confident man confident at all times? No insecurity to be found? No emotional weakness? Superman? I'm not interested in defending Trump or his hands, but is not someone allowed their sore spots?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 02:21 PM
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I dislike this question immensely. If TRP it's not true nor works, then RPers would be the one hating RP the most - it would be a piece of shit that helps no one and only prolongs bitterness and pain! IF TRP works and is true, then perhaps some of its subscribers can put up with the misogyny and other rough stuff in there. If not, then it's stupid for existing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:08 AM
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Because your definition of confidence contrasts theirs. They think every criticism is an attack, like a punch in boxing. Every punch needs to be responded with another punch. Some people may decide to act cool and just tank through such "punches".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:34 PM
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This sort of assumes a "one true confidence" exists. I don't like arrogance, but that's doesn't mean it isn't a form of confidence or cannot generate some type of confidence. Neither would I believe that the confident among us do not struggle with insecurity, or emotional issues. Or as one may say - both the confident man and the unconfident man experience insecurity and fear. The difference is how each responds to those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:14 PM
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I'd say in comparison to myself, he displays more confidence than I do, arrogance or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 07:36 PM
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I've never even heard of this person. Must not have gained traction in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:30 PM
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When there's no one/no programs reaching out to help romantic losers and incels, whomever appeals to them first gets all of them. If Alcoholics Anonymous hadn't established their program, and instead the KKK did, there'd probably be a lot more KKK members.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:17 PM
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Right, but most people who are even aware that RP exists, only smell the stink. Therefore, if anyone found RP to be a blessing in their life, it's best to shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:10 PM
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Because it really sounds like shit. Can you imagine telling someone this? "I used to be a loser friendless virgin who just played video games and didn't have a career worth speaking about. Then I went to a notoriously misogynistic online forum that revealed to me all the information I was missing about women, dating, and a few things about life in general! I got fit, got a job, made new friends, got new hobbies, and started getting laid all over the place." People would be like "you needed an on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:04 PM
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If NAMALT and NAWALT are bull, there's no conversation to be had. Boys are certainly raised to be grateful, except for those who were burdened with subpar parenting. Girls can ignore their supporters too, as I've often seen women grow up to be ingrates who gossip and tear down those around them. Both are easily and readily observed to become ingrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 09:04 PM
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I hate how these questions always lead to a "No, not all are like that". Yea some dudes are dicks. Some dudes appreciate their support system without praising them too much. Some dudes are Mr Kumbaya, but don't get shit done. Plenty of women fall in those categories too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 08:42 PM
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This is the real answer. The principles and values that people live by are going to be the most important part. If they are in sync, it can work. If not, it can certainly clash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:50 AM
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Okay, so let's get more specific. RP is about sexual strategy - how do they get to fuck, fuck quickly, and fuck often? LTRs could be a viable strategy, so perhaps aiming for dad bod (read - not fat) with above average social acumen and humor is a good strategy for getting someone like Emilia. (this doesn't include career, personality, etc etc.) In other contexts, perhaps not so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:25 AM
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I imagine N-count doesn't have any discernible effect on those within social circles that encourage sexual promiscuity. Crossing more sexually liberal circles into more sexually conservative circles, and dating someone with those kind of values, would prompt those kind of issues. Since most people stay within those circles and often to cross them for romantic opportunity, I'd imagine that n-count issues are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:20 AM
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Is this a reference to the skittles man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:18 AM
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Just because you're not explicitly talking about Fight Club doesn't mean you're not dropping hints all over the place. What a couple of idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:13 AM
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men feel "retroactively cheated on" Years ago I felt such a thing with someone I loved. I can tell you that it starts as a small, insignificant insecurity. It soon becomes a black hole, in which everything beautiful and lovely becomes sucked away and torn asunder. It's a self-inflicted gunshot, which has much much less to do with the partner in question, and much more to do with the individual who can't stop hurting him/herself with obsessive, self-destructive thought patterns. And these emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:10 AM
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The term "born again virgin" is bullshit. If one decides to convert to Christianity, have their sins forgiven, and all that comes with the faith...there is no such thing as being given virginity back. Or as I like to say, physical consequences from past actions are not nullified by spiritual events. why would any man wait for a non virgin? Because he adheres to the same principles - waiting for marriage to engage in sexual activity. If he doesn't hold such a principle, then there is no reason at…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 12:40 AM
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No I wouldn't - such an individual would contrast against my principles, and wouldn't make a good partner for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 03:34 PM
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This guy went from 0 to 60 real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:43 AM
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Pretty much my thoughts on the matter. Though im sure in some conservative circles it could be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:42 AM
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Great question, though I don't think I have the complete answer. 1st impressions: Hot girl - holy shit, that ass! Those boobs! I'd fuck her in a heart beat! Cute girl - wow, she has a brilliant smile. Wonder if she's single? Let's find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:36 AM
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It's impossible to really know, especially if she says "not your business" or "I don't keep count". The only way I see it happening : the guy makes it feel like having a high n count is no big deal - making her believe he's cool about it and won't judge. Even then, we don't know if it would be the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:32 AM
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What is a man? It's sorta like asking "what is alpha" - everyone seems to have their own definition. Is he dark triad? Is he a role model for our youth? Is he rich and career successful? Is he thick with muscles sculpted from the gym? "High value man" this will change from person to person as well, especially in a dating context since everyone has their ow preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:25 PM
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I was just thinking that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:32 PM
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Men who do so play a dangerous game. They're women can be stolen - even betas are capable of that given enough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:11 PM
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Well, at least you are self-aware about it, though I'm unsure most would share in that sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:03 PM
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Let's explore this concept. Why would a man want to show off his wife to potential competition? Why would a man want a woman who enjoys showing herself off to other men, with or without his presence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:58 PM
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Well, if you enjoy having your hot wife flaunt it in front of other men, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:44 PM
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I'm not sure this demonstrates self awareness, but it does show the silliness of any idea of a "man shortage".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:42 PM
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Holy fuck, Atlas coming in with the slam.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:39 PM
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What age did I feel most attractive? I'm in my mid twenties, and I've never felt attractive. I'm healthy, good complexion, skinny, and got a spine - never felt that. Relationships just come and go, never had people complimenting my looks or watching me as I pass by. Guess I'm ok with that by now too. Edit: I'm a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:53 PM
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If he convinces her to have sex with him without the use of threats or coercion (A.K.A subduction), then no its not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:45 PM
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I'd say there is a significant difference. Those that don't let fear hold them back are the ones experiencing both dating/sexual success and rejection/failure. Those who adhere to their fear only experience the regret of not trying, which is a burden all on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 04:06 AM
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I'm surprised that the commenter in the OP wouldn't think that the gym goer wasn't disciplined, structured, detail oriented, goal achieving individual...or perhaps doesn't consider them parts of an attractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 08:48 PM
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No way, if we got a dude called "thundercock", then her female equivalent really has to have the same kind of anatomical name.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:48 PM
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Will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:50 AM
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I'd take a listen. You mind if I ask a bunch of questions? I tend to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:34 AM
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Additional note: It is loser talk, but it's good to understand the perspective from the other side. Perhaps we can learn to break that cycle, and teach it to others! Or maybe I'm idealistic - maybe incels will not want to get better...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:19 AM
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This is definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:05 AM
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Perhaps then that's for the better. Once you have enough of them, you begin to...prefer them over the solution. Then you get stuck. Stare into the abyss...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:29 AM
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Yes yes yes...that's the obvious answer. The study leaves us with questions: why would anyone contest just because the signer was a woman? What possible benefit would that elicit? And why can't they have the same response towards a man? So then...if they're going to push it, why not do so with either gender? Equal opportunity pains in the ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:28 AM
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Stacey Hugetatas Pump-a-Rum
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 01:43 AM
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Eat the booty like groceries
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 01:40 AM
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Are we tailoring the strategy to a particular person, or a particular type? Either way, if the pool of applicable women to use this plan is too small, then the person won't be able to practice and adjust the strategy as necessary. It has to be repeatable, and if we are only aiming at 10/10s within a narrow scope, it's gotta be a slam dunk or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 01:39 AM
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You can't? Ever had a pity party? You were just down in the fucking dumps, and you weren't looking to rectify the situation, you felt like numbing out with some beer, video games...anything? Just wallow in it for a bit until the feelings pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:54 PM
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lol I do appreciate the creativity in the name "hugetatas". Why always the gigantic boobs though? Where's dat ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:50 PM
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I don't think evolution is a genie. Whatever lives to reproduce is what lives on in future generations. Not much more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:49 PM
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Should an outlier be considered when creating a sexual strategy? Unless we are intentionally pursuing outliers, the answer is no. Make a strategy that appeals to something like, 20% of women, and go for it. Adjust as necessary; take the rejects with grace; have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:46 PM
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At first flinch, this appears to be intrusive. On further thought, maybe it is the smoothest way to approach in the given circumstance - it's genuine to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 09:13 PM
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All depends on the kind of woman you chase after and your own standards that determines the waiting time length. I hear that, and I also hear of the opposite sentiment within marriage - very frequent sex even after a couple decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:59 PM
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If everything is an illusion or lie, why not strive to be audaciously authentic? People gravitate to those that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:56 PM
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Noted - thanks! That sounds like one of my jams.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:54 PM
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I think that happens to a lot of guys at least once - building an alternate version of the person he crushes ok in his head, and then dealing with the subsequent disillusionment. That's a healthy lesson to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:51 PM
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Wow, that's an insightful story of personal growth. Do you still listen to those podcasts? I'd give one a listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:21 PM
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lol it's surprising how simple it can all be. I can understand that example - he led her to believe he was one kind of guy, when he was in fact another. Probably a good example of what a "nice guy" truly is - someone desperate enough to lie about himself...and possibly to himself, to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:11 PM
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Then you are farther along in this line of reasoning than I am. I respect your experience in the matter. So then, with all the changes you made, are you still you? What is the new you? How painful was the transition from the old new to the new you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:05 PM
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Yes, I'd like to say these things can reasonable be assumed - everything you mentioned. With that in mind, let's go back to approaching the poetry girl. How would one approach her, when he doesn't know or isn't interested in poetry? How does he do so while being true to his "self"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:03 PM
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That's part of the point - I want to explore the concept in its entirety, even past its normal use. That way, I can understand exactly how it should be given and received as advice, and when it's inappropriately given or misinterpreted. Overthinking is part of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:57 PM
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Well of course no one is entitled to anything, but you miss all the shots you don't take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:55 PM
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He sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:27 PM
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I agree with Gottman as well. Your relationship sounds like a pleasant one - I suppose then imperfections should not make one damned then for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:17 PM
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This is such an interesting point - someone just being happy as they are...is an attractive aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 07:15 PM
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Wow fuck, destroyed that guy. But yea, solid answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:44 PM
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I've noticed this as well. Frustrating to debate when people will spout ignorant opinions without first educating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:43 PM
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If the marriages were so amazing Divorce wouldn't have skyrocketed as soon as it were socially acceptable. This would seem to imply that many men sucked as partners, but had inflated value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:40 PM
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This is a wonderful way to define loneliness! I can understand this then - it's torture to be so close and unable to go further. To see the promised land and unable to walk there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:34 PM
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If I'm reading that right, an impressive frame is what destroys ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:06 PM
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It's a matter of personal principles. For those who hold dear the idea of marrying a woman with a low N-count, justified by whatever principle they carry, then of course high N-count women are automatically disqualified. Is this sentiment carried by the majority of men? That is still to be discovered. Is the high N-count woman looking to be with a man carrying that kind of sentiment? If so, then there is bound to be turbulence for her romantic future then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:57 PM
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Solid answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:54 PM
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Good enough answer to me. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:52 PM
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I don't mean to nit pic on your answer - I do understand the sentiment you express. If someone really does brood the majority of the time...wouldn't acting against this go against the aforementioned advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:45 PM
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but you'll never have real emotional intimacy in your relationship. Is a relationship without true intimacy, better than no relationship at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:43 PM
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is that it's not about being perfect for each other all the time. Solid answer, though I wonder just how imperfect we are allowed to be. Even Gottman said the best relationships he saw had an average of 5 positive interactions to every 1 negative interaction. Was this the same guy who discovered that contempt/resentment was the #1 indicator of a failing relationship? I can't quite remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:42 PM
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If you are a Chad she'll smile to you and she'll say whatever she's reading. If you Chad she's going to give you the glare lol. Why would Chad bother to say ''Hey, I'm studying English literature and I couldn't help but notice you were reading poetry. Are you by any chance reading W.B Yeats(or use any other faggot poet that you can think of, even if you have no interest in poetry you studied that shit in HS)?'' ...if his success is guaranteed based on the merit of him being a Chad? Also, in a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:39 PM
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Let's take your analogy further: What fuel should those nervous dudes be looking for? What are they missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:37 PM
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This is intriguing, as I've pondered about the very same sentiment. Question: If one does try and realizes that winning certainly isn't possible...is it all that painful? Or to rephrase, which is worse? The literal event, or fear of the event?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:36 PM
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I see...I suppose I hold the same definition as well. With that in mind, I hope your romantic future continues to go well...assuming it currently is from what you've stated about your sex life. Wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:34 PM
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Does it have to be about getting laid within hours of meeting a person? Why not in a couple weeks, months, etc. in order to create a relationship that leads to consistent, near nightly sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:31 PM
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just to keep them around? Who knows, perhaps they are willing to sacrifice much to keep love nearby.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:30 PM
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How does one tear down their own ego? It sounds like a particularly painful process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:29 PM
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Is it as analogous as your example portrays? If someone were to wickedly despise exercise in all forms, how could they ever take the first step to changing themselves? If they suddenly formed a love for exercise, how much of themselves were sacrificed? Or are we ourselves no matter what course of action we take?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:29 PM
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Smaller problems are easier to solve...was it Descartes who came up with that? Anyways, that is sound advice. I do assume that blue, red, and purple have successful ways of going about it. I look at it like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle - everyone has a piece or two, and I'm very slowly trying to put the picture together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:24 PM
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Yes, I practice this nearly daily lol. People love talking about their own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:21 PM
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Fantastic answer - I'll have to add this to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:16 PM
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If one hides their insecurities, does that mean they are not "being themselves"? Or perhaps, we shouldn't focus on bearing our souls like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:15 PM
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I've heard the sentiment about sales training several times now. I wonder where men can get that training, especially if their careers have nothing to do with sales. The input is much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:14 PM
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Fuck, that's a lot of info to wade through.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:20 AM
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RP really needs work on communicating it's ideals and practices more then. In all my years of lurking on TRP, that's a sentiment rarely, rarely expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:26 AM
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Succinct answer. To be yourself you must first find yourself. Is there a process for this? RP would focus on attraction and seduction skills - is there a method for finding one's self, which then leads to the expression of that self, that facilitates future romantic success?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:22 AM
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It means behave as you would 'naturally' or behaving without acting. It appears some would take contention with this point. For the sake of exploring perspectives, I'll play Devil's Advocate: What if behaving 'naturally' results in little to no romantic success? Shouldn't a little acting be encouraged in such a condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:20 AM
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I recognize the value of those words - let me play Devil's Advocate for further understanding. But at what cost? If "who I am" is not cool at all, and becoming cool requires me to sacrifice "who I am", is that sacrifice worth it? Does this leave me being fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:18 AM
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It means don't be fake. Nice succinct answer. If you're crushing on the girl in he coffee shop you see every day reading a book of poetry, don't claim to love poetry when you strike up conversation if you actually don't. Let's take this a bit further, so we can reach a better understanding. If one had zero interest in poetry, how would one approach the poetry loving girl in the coffee shop? There would need to be someway of engaging in a conversation without getting awkward about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:17 AM
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Interesting, as most here seem to condemn Omegas to a life of lonely, miserable solitude (this is not my opinion of you - you may well be bucking the trend). Could you explain what your idea of an Omega is and looks like? Interested to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:14 AM
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Is it better to "be one's self" and let a possible LTR/FWB see some of the not-so-great parts and potentially lose them, or create a persona that allows one to keep them around?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:13 AM
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If people have a limited time to get to know each other, why would "being yourself" be bad in this circumstance? Does putting on a persona work better? had a component of self promotion Perhaps some behaviors are more learned than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:11 AM
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works all the time for people who are naturally charismatic So this is a limited piece of advice - it assumes that the individual has such natural charisma. Functionally speaking, is this only good for those needing that confidence boost, and relatively useless for those needing more...basic social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:08 AM
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What shall we do with this ego? Bolster it, tear it down, ignore it..?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:06 AM
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Understood. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:05 AM
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I see your point, though I wonder then (prepare for BS philosophical question), If who I am today, isn't who I was yesterday and isn't how I will be tomorrow, how is anyone to "be themselves"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:04 AM
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How can there be no self? We continuously divorce ourselves from other people in an effort to recognize ourselves as unique. We different names, faces, occupations, mentalities, etc. With all this in mind, how it there no self?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 05:01 AM
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God I love a detailed answer. There are multiple verisons of you. Is there such a thing as a "true version" (my true self!), or is each "version" merely a different piece of an individual...like all the ingredients that go into a Doritos Locos Taco? Lotta ingredients (versions) that create one product (the person). Yes that's what most modern PUA is. Whoa, that's news to me. PUA has evolved into...self-acceptance? Very interesting to note.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:59 AM
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The first was when I was just being myself and I found someone for a hook-up or a relationship. I wasnt looking, therefore was just being myself and found something. How paradoxical - finding something when you weren't searching, and being yourself when you were not thinking about being yourself. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:52 AM
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Perhaps then this is 2nd tier advice - once the basics are down (however we define them), "be yourself" is the natural next step, rather than the first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:49 AM
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Whoa. This means that "fake it till you make it" isn't faking anything at all. Instead it would be the application of newly discovered skills, and getting slowly acclimated to them until they become second nature. ...Then why isn't the conversation about creating and wielding a natural, charming persona that fully expresses the individual self? This way, we can "be ourselves" while landing relationship/sex opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:48 AM
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more specifically your fear of failure. Very interesting point. Do you believe fear of failure is a prominent fear, especially in 1st world countries? How is this fear conquered?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:43 AM
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Are all of those things controllable? Thoughts, paradigms, views...changing all that would take a long time if possible. If so though, then there wouldn't be any feasible excuse for being a loser, assuming the only thing that holds losers back is a faulty mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:42 AM
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You do not have a fixed self. There is therefore no such thing as your true self. This bothers me in a way I can't quite articulate. How do we come to know ourselves, our identity, if everything is in flux? That might actually be a nonsensical question... I wasn't expecting this answer...now I need to take some time to ponder this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:40 AM
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I appreciate the detailed response. Am I correct in interpreting your response as, "concentrate on avoiding fake-ness, while remaining appropriate to the current situation." ? becoming a new version of yourself, rather than pretending to be someone you are not. Can you elaborate further on this point? It's interesting, but I find it to be contradicting. Isn't becoming "a new version of yourself" analogous to "Pretending to be someone you're not"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:35 AM
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Let's look at this: Plenty of times, when I was actually just being myself and not focusing on being myself. and "Well, if she doesnt like me for who I am, fuck her." Please expand on these sentiments - doesn't one naturally lead to the other? If you are indifferent about the impression you make (and are thus free to be yourself), wouldn't it be natural to defend yourself with such a remark if someone didn't like you? I suppose I'm looking for a clearer answer; you state that your laid back natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:20 AM
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My apologies for diving into grammar, but I feel it necessary. When we say "be", is it a verb, or a word synonymous with "existing"? If the former, what does that imply? If the latter, does this make the phrase useless as advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:16 AM
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Girls typically mean to stop faking shit to impress people, to recognize you own value and stop trying so damn hard. Incels and TRPers tend to mean doing absolutely nothing differently than what you usually do in social situations. Are those two perspectives the same? The better I do this the better my results get. It is the core concept of my success. The free expression of one's "whole" personality - is this a better definition of "being yourself"? If so, should we then focus on learning to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:11 AM
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This is an insightful answer - you are always you... But this prompts more questions. If we are always ourselves, what stops us from becoming winners?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:06 AM
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Just be yourself is good advice for people who are charming and personable in general Wait, let's focus on this for a second (although I appreciate your full answer). Does this mean that "Just be yourself" is solid advice, given that we can be charming? The painter's color choice is fine, just the painting techniques need work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:04 AM
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I see - bad roots will produce bad fruits. Should our focus shift from "being one's self" to "achieve personal happiness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:51 AM
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Is there ever a point in which we change ourselves so much, we are no longer "being ourselves"? Goals > subpar character/personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:46 AM
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There are those who seem to swear by it. Do they delude themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:45 AM
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Your frank opinion is refreshing. You are competing against former versions of yourself. Interesting - so we should refine ourselves further and further everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:42 AM
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If I understand you correctly, being one's self is vague advice that is useless? would be to tell you to be happy with yourself before you can expect to be happy with someone else. Do you believe many problems with achieving relationships and sex stem from intra-personal displeasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:39 AM
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The compliment is appreciated. This is interesting - so only when a person is stoic and composed, that is when they can be themselves? If you were to be upset by something disturbing, your following emotions would "not be you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:36 AM
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So a dislike of oneself neuters any attempt at being one's self. Which comes first? Loving one's self, or being one's self? What if neither facilitates getting relationships and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:35 AM
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Thank you for the detailed answer. Couple of questions: Never. But then again, I'm not a horrible person to begin with. Do you imply that if a person being his/herself can't land a relationship or get laid, they are horrible? It means be your best self. Please take this further. What does this look like in practice? Example: if my cooking impresses friends, and someone can cook better, do I try to outdo them in an attempt to be a better, more impressive self? Or it this a misinterpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:33 AM
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Yes, I can understand that. But please walk us through your thought process - what exactly does it mean to "be yourself"? What does that look like? Feel like? What effect does it have on other people? Just want a little more detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:28 AM
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If one is not cool, should we sacrifice who we are, to become someone we're not? Or, in our pursuit to change, "who we are" ends up changing into a new person...meaning, it's impossible to not be ourselves? I hope I'm making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:19 AM
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I don't. I assumed you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:16 AM
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"Wow [insert group I dislike] are a bunch of fucking losers! Haha!" ...Do we have to resort to this kind of discourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:49 PM
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Interesting answer. What might be the correct thing for the clients in this experiment to respond with? Contest either gender that contacts them, or do not contest either gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:40 PM
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Archwinger, why is attractiveness the root cause of all these things? Can one not fail at friendship and life, and yet be found sexually attractive? May not the vice versa exist as well, being successful at friendship and life, and yet be found sexually unattractive? Or by stating that attractiveness is the root cause, do you use "attractiveness" as an umbrella term, meaning people simply like being around a particular person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:29 PM
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Can we call them transhumans? Tranhumanoids? Transmechanicals? Mechonis?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:50 AM
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Deus Ex is fantastic. I would think that though that such augmentation would create a new gender, the cyborgs, rather than equalize the genders. Would some women and men give up their gender to have their biological processes mechanized to break certain gender constraints, and achieve their goals/dreams? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 10:07 PM
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Hmmm...this could be a good case of why men and women's arousal triggers differ from one another. The two examples linked in you post do show a significant difference...though I wish there was a video of the hot autistic women so we could accurately make a comparison between the two. Admittedly...I don't have an answer to this currently. This is interesting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:53 PM
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well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:49 PM
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I can't simplify it to that...but that is one of the pieces of the puzzle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:42 PM
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Operating under the same principles and contexts written above, A P2 person would likely reject Girl B immediately, and then reject Girl A after taking time to come to the conclusion you've outlined above. Both get rejected by P2.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:38 PM
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I'm going to ignore Principle 3 for the moment, so we can concentrate on this: Within the context of their relationship, Principle 1 and Principle 2 actually agree. So the "fun" prior stuff has nothing to do with them. This is the key part of this, in my opinion. Speaking strictly logically, you're absolutely right. But, humans don't operate strictly logically. I've seen many times when this happens IRL, and the woman operating under P2 finds herself repulsed or horribly insecure with a P1 guy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:32 PM
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This exposition isn't necessarily arguing against high N-count women being bad at sex, merely incompatible with some men. Neither does it suggest that virgin women are going to be any better. Why not just say: "I prefer an inexperienced partner so that we may explore sex together, as that is a special sentimental experience I want to have." This way, we don't have to go in circles trying to rationalize people who have frequent sex, as the people who are actually, secretly bad at sex, despite vas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:27 PM
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Of course that possible - what you've outlined is a principle! Principle: "Just have fun with relationships, until you find one that really makes your head spin. Sex then, becomes sacred and intimate as opposed to just for fun." Contrasting principle: "Sex is a symbol of love, mutual pleasure, and sacred intimacy. Because it is important, handle with care and cautiousness; don't make your love easily accessible. When you find that special someone, give everything without holding back." Two peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:21 PM
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This is analogous to looking for a consensus on how to compose beautiful music that both expresses yourself as a musician and also is relatable and popular to the masses. There isn't a one size fits all. We all have to find pieces of the puzzle, and slowly put it together. Some more slowly and frustrating than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:16 PM
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No - who cares about their heels that much, that it would prompt a different response?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:14 PM
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N-count is a part of the context. ...are you going to ignore the rest of what I said? What is your opinion on all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:13 PM
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N-count isn't necessarily a litmus test, but can tell you about the person. High N-count can suggest that for this individual, sex is not a representation of love and closeness, bordering on a sacred intimacy between two people. Sex could be nothing more than a good time. These are important differences between principles, and N-count may show this difference. Low N-count people may also hold the very same ideal - it just isn't readily obvious from N-count alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:10 PM
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I wouldn't characterize SAHMs as useless, or a role not worth existing anymore. Sure, they get some downtime, but they also have their own work when it comes to maintenance, cooking, cleaning, scheduling, shopping, taking care of the kids, supporting her husband, and any other work she may choose to do, like volunteering. SAHMs can really be the tie that binds the whole family together. It's difficult to diminish the importance of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 09:02 PM
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Oh. As it turns out, I read your reply backwards...no wonder you're confused. I think we're on the same page. Which is why, if a TRPer took a conservative principle on sex, they should reject both A and B. What is your opinion on what I said earlier? Agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:56 PM
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My examples show that B is actually much, much pickier than A. Disagree - Girl A in your example has only been pursued by 7 men ever. With your current example, Girl B has a better argument for being pickier that Girl A because she rejects swaths of men daily. Kinda my point. You can't tell anything from someone's N count. Which is why, if a TRPer took a conservative principle on sex, they should reject both A and B.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:48 PM
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Your examples show that both Girl A and Girl B hold the same principles but have different circumstances, leading to differing N counts. If I were to reject one, I'd have to reject both, since they are similar in values and principles in regards to sex - which may or may not resound with my own values and principles. Decision: The half of the story that matters most is the individual's principles, and whether they stood by them or not. Everything else is circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:40 PM
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As funny and interesting as this is...is this really all that surprising? Most, if not all, people are sexist to a degree - ascribing positive or negative qualities to a person based simply in sexism. Some of these traits between genders can be mimicked by the other to great success, and others to great failure. In this case, Trump's persona can do well for an independent, outspoken woman, while it may not work as well vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:37 PM
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That's what I've witnessed, for some at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 10:43 PM
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I'm not arguing against this. In general, we should seek to be fit so that we can attract beautiful partners. At the same time though, let's not pretend that exceptions do not exist either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 10:03 PM
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Mmmmm...I don't think they are the norm, but neither do I believe them to be extremely rare as you suggest. I've seen beautiful women go for chubby dudes, though admittedly less so in comparison to fit men. Really fat/obese? Now that would be a low percentage occurrence. I've never seen it, though I'm sure it exists somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:37 PM
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Without seeing the rest of her, I'd say she has s pretty face. Also, being skinny automatically beats out the lower 40% composed of fattiest and chubbies. At least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:29 PM
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Well, if anything, I'm sure this can be used a positive example. We don't have to be chadly in appearance to land a hottie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:50 PM
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I'll respect your answer, though I find the result to be underwhelming. I'd figure the typical player could cause a change in Interest Level to exceed at least 75, which would then cause her to desire sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:40 PM
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There's no bell curve in this specific example, only a spectrum. Does this mean in your opinion, that "player success" most typically results in the woman desiring a second date/seeing him a second time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:37 PM
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I find that answer to be lacking. Are there not many men who are attractive to their partners without the use of those methods? "Adorkable" as they may be? Actually, that doesn't matter to me. Let's go back to my original comment. For a "player", please use the Interest Level I hypothetically made up. What does player success look like? From 0 to 75? -1 to 100? What occurs most often?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:10 PM
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Just being attractive makes one a player? What about dread game, agree and amplify, negging, etc etc...all the techniques and methods accumulated by men hitting on all kinds of women over the ages. Does not the successful use of these methods make one a player? And not just inherent attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:56 PM
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My comment written above does not address that. I want more details. I want to know the effectiveness of players, because I don't think "player" is defined well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:40 PM
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No wonder so many of my peers are slow as fuck to hit on women their age. They won't touch them or flirt with them for like at least a month. They're so afraid of being called a creep, or "rapey", or whatever, that they repress their sexuality to the max. What a strange time we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:32 PM
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Disagree. It isn't about hating other men (though I'm sure some panic at the thought of their wife sleeping with a black dude). It's about proving oneself. Of knowing their partner chose them because they think they are the best choice. If previous partners were better than the current one...this causes concern. They don't hate the previous man, they just need to be better than him. Somehow. Not hate. It's competition. They must win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:22 PM
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I'm not sure this is true. Let's say for instance there's such a thing as "Interest Level (IL)". If IL = 0, this is absolute no interest. Not crossing into disgust. If IL = -1 (or less), she is actively disgusted. Disinterest. If IL = 50+, she wants to see him a second time. If IL = 75, she wants to sleep with him. If IL = 100, she is absolutely captivated, hanging on every word. She wants the D immediately. When we speak of players being successful, what does this mean? Do they take a woman's I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:17 PM
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No - that is the age of sexual experimentation, especially in college. I think most individuals have a higher count by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:25 AM
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For a group of disenfranchised individuals who "didn't get it" when it came to their love lives, I suspect Feminism isn't a liberating force in their lives. They may see it as oppressing to some extent (though such a perception may vary wildly from TRPer to TRPer).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:22 AM
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Probably a low percentage of people act this way in today's times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:52 PM
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Mo' money, mo' problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 07:11 PM
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Wow, I did on of those on Saturday night as well! It was pretty fun, though I definitely had to rely on my friends for a few of the puzzles. Great time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:16 PM
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In the case of RP, I'd like to see us come to understand the difference between RP philosophy and TRP user's individual beliefs, as they sometimes seem to collide. RP > TRP Following the examples you listed, I would treat it as a hierarchy, with the topmost trumping the bottommost: Sidebar Endorsed Contributors TRP every day users
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:39 PM
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In my admission, I haven't bothered to read the study. Now taking a quick look, yea, it's a study originating on a gamer site. lol I fail to believe it's an objective study.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:11 PM
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Right - if those guys are crushing pussy, it's not a surprise. We are missing the nuance in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:08 PM
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I suppose that's how I view the whole ordeal of breaking up - to break up all communications and sentiment as far as I can. This is the dangerous part for me. Nostalgic romantic feelings are like fading embers - always able to be rekindled, especially when its least expected. I know myself, I know I'm tempted, so I don't take chances. Perhaps I project myself onto others with this sentiment, but I wouldn't like that in my partners either. It would make me wary of the stability of the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:07 PM
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It isn't a downgrade? I thought the hierarchy went Romantic partner/spouse Close friends Friends Acquaintances Going from partner to friend would be a downgrade...well, I suppose in my books. Having friends I'm attracted to, and previously shared a very intimate relationship with, would very much distract me. It would remind my of old sweet feelings, which only gets in the way of the new relationship. I want to plant a new garden, and must uproot all the rest to make it so. I only have so much s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:53 PM
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Of course. I consider it a healthy fear. We are replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:43 PM
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I'm slow to hop in bed with someone, so there may be more differences to account for, that influences our perspectives. It would be difficult for me to fully focus on my new partner, if I still paid attention to the previous one. How do you navigate a relationship with someone that was downgraded from lover to friend? It all seems very awkward to me. I think it's weird. Even most of my STRs contact me occasionally. Idk, though -- that does seem a bit unhealthy/obsessive on their end to me, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:42 PM
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This is something I do acknowledge - those caught in a marriage have different difficulties than I do right now. That said...I don't have an answer to that, and I can't pretend that my uninformed opinion is a good one. If RP is the answer to that circumstance, I could only hope for a good outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:35 PM
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I can't agree with that. Competition is a sin. (This is an expression, not a literal faith thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:29 PM
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I view myself as replaceable. Once I was dumped, they cut contact and replace me quick. I do the same. It's been this way for as long as I can remember...and it's very normal behavior. Which is why I find your story to be very interesting - this is very much outside the norm of my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:27 PM
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I'm even further confused by this. He wasn't a friend to begin with - cutting him off is even easier! Just boom, gone, done. Once the relationship is over, he can be replaced. This isn't to say I think you're weird or something...I just can't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:22 PM
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What advantage does befriending a partner's exes convey? Wouldn't that show acceptance, and normalize the presence of other competitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:18 PM
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I can respect the breakdown of individual elements within relationships, however... If I must be that conscious of my behavior at all times and put in that much work, I think I'll walk away. Either she's on board or she isn't. I detest making it more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:41 PM
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Well...that's sort of the inherent risk of dating a friend. Cutting contact becomes even more difficult since they're already in the circle to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:20 PM
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I still don't understand the merits of keeping past loves in contact, or even close. They're dead to me - only the current girl matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:08 PM
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It hurts like hell to let go of someone loved - I've done it, and there's plenty of tears shed. Then one day, we don't even think of that person anymore, and can completely devote ourselves to someone new. This doesn't mean past loves were weak - the pain in letting go symbolizes just how strong it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:00 PM
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I can respect and agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:57 PM
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I can respect that. We have to choose the topic of this conversation then: Top 20% people Or Those achieving top 20% rate of acquiring sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:56 PM
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This is a wonderful answer -it perfectly shows our difference. I am always ready to let go of love. Familial love and friendship love - these I cling to. Past romantic love? It is buried and dead. The only romantic one, the only important one, is the current one. This is my perspective. What is your opinion of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:54 PM
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It all depends on how far one carries their commitment to that person. Would they carry on and stay, building their partner brick by brick? Or check out once they've had enough for a better model? Both are acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:51 PM
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Top 20% = top tier bracket. Since this is about sex first and foremost, results must speak for themselves, not raw resources improperly leveraged. Is this person getting laid like a sexual elite? If so, top 20%. If not, then bottom 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:50 PM
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You have such an interesting...and completely foreign perspective from my own. I would never tolerate competition to hang around, not from my side or hers. I wouldn't redefine the relationship to any other status besides "discontinued".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:47 PM
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Yes! It's been shown here on this forum before that many guys are getting laid tons without the top tier money or physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:41 PM
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Friends are different - they continue to add to your life in significant ways. Keeping exes around as friends...I don't want to worry my future partners, or create unnecessary temptation. I meant the sentiment, not literal ghosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:40 PM
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Yes, but if this hypothetical individual isn't getting laid, or only limitedly, he's not a part of this specified 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:38 PM
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I've had an LTR before, lasting years - but unlike yourself, I cut contact completely. Keeping up with her wouldn't be conducive to any future relationships. If anything, I use that relationship for "lessons learned", than anything else, despite it being a lovely LTR. I don't bring ghosts into future relationships. This doesn't mean I badmouth my exes - we know this usually isn't a good thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:35 PM
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No, I mostly figure out as quickly as possible whether this person is fit for marriage, and then either end it or proceed slowly. Most of my relationships are STR - otherwise I'm wasting time. Why wouldn't it be good practice? Should not a couple communicate about each other's principles, values, and desires for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:10 PM
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I'm not going to make little of your considerable progress - your efforts are to be commended. ...but no, these two examples are not comparable at all, and neither do I understand why you bring this up. Everyone's got their insecurities, inner demons to face. If I cared for my partner, and she had such a similar fear, I wouldn't let her face it alone, even if that meant forgoing a lovely evening's sexy time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:07 PM
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I suppose so, though I'd only do so in a manner constructive to the current relationship. "I learned these lessons, I'd rather not do x,y,z, and I'd like to do a,b,c." And etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:58 PM
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I couldn't imagine that a little fear of taking care of one's partner well is a symptom of narcissism. Your words throw the person into a no-win situation. Either he's an asshole for caring about his partner's pleasure, or he's an asshole is he doesn't! Also, it was your assumption of him being a shit lover that I found condescending to be issue, not the mechanical details.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:56 PM
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Wait, are we talking about gamers, the hardcore ones, or "gamers", the ones that play maybe an hour or two a week tops? I highly suspect that we are speaking of the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:20 PM
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Wait. From what I see here, this is a man who cares about his partner's pleasure, and worries that he does not shape up. How is this narcissism? Either that, or you're a shit lover who can't think beyond "I put my dick in a hole." What calls for this thinking? What is the reasoning for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:17 PM
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That maybe how you wish to define the numbers, but I'm very sure that's how TRP defines the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:00 PM
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Is it weird? Usually one considers it courtesy to never speak about exes - treat 'em like they're dead. Unless it would to say, "the last couple relationships were like this, I'd like to avoid this relationship becoming that toxic".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:58 PM
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Why do we link thing to TRB? It's a sarcasm...well, something sub. I highly doubt meaningful discussion is to be had from mining that sub's content.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:59 AM
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I wouldn't think this quite fits the definition. As I understand it, "20% of men are getting 80% of the sex", is what the phrase means. So being a part of the sexual elite means one would be able to sleep with a variety of different women, perhaps within the very hour of first meeting them. A regular BP individual who gets consistently laid, probably does not qualify for that phrase - I do suspect he is quite a satisfied individual though and more than likely isn't concerned with being a sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:56 AM
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This is incredibly sweet. I wonder if this is a universal (widely supported) thing, or more of a personal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:38 AM
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The starry eyed state really does need to be talked more about here. Do you mind posting about it? I'd love to see the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:35 AM
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I have total confidence in every facet of my being that my competency in bed, and everywhere else, is good enough for her. Oh what am I saying...I'd probably find myself becoming extremely competitive with an invisible stranger who is no longer a part of her life, even despite her reassurances (assuming I'd even speak of this). Then again, self-confidence has never been my strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:31 AM
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Yes but, people on both sides to this to an annoying degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:18 PM
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LOL Why do they ask? Squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's a shot in the dark, and they'd rather ask then. It ask at all for an internship. I'd say: fuck them. If they pissed on you during college, don't start doing them favors now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:17 PM
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What's more likely, with absolutely no context, no understanding of the two people within the relationship, or understanding of the culture and/or religious background? Well, here's my SWAG (some wild ass guess): From the guy side of things, both affect pride and ego. Which is worse, or more triggering than the other for jealousy? Probably the amount of former lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 11:38 PM
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Let's hear your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:44 PM
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It's sad that people holding radical views are shaping policy. If only they weren't the only ones speaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:44 PM
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I'm not assuming - I'm showing that laws like these are vague and will leave collateral damage. It was crafted of the idea of protecting women from what you've stated, but it can be abused with current wording. We'll have to begin signing contracts in advance of actual communication if such vague measures continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:17 PM
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Solid answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:41 PM
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Please see the comment /u/dakru posted below yours for further details.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:36 PM
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Yes, this was what I was referring to. Thanks for throwing up the additional details.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:35 PM
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This is taking a sentiment to it's extreme. Men are naturally aggressive? Yes, is this not obvious? The majority of those who go to jail for violent crimes are men. Sports are predominantly aggressive, and mostly occupied by men. Video games are increasingly violent, and aimed at men. It's surprising that this is an argument. Anti-harassment laws are "castrating men"? Perhaps. Sexually harassing anyone is a crime and should be treated as such. The controversy begins though when countries such as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 01:50 PM
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Damn. You slaughtered that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:01 AM
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I think this hits the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:59 AM
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It sounds like a beautiful dream! But I don't think all countries will want to play along nicely, or even all peoples. If anything, one big nation would be subdivided into multiple shadow governments all vying for power, and taking care of those they individually favor. We would have nations all over again, only with none of them being called a "nation".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:55 AM
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So there's nothing to back this up? Bonding stuff doesn't decrease?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:48 PM
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Yea, I hear it's a ton of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:14 AM
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Video games in and of themselves are fine. However for some, it's become masculinity by proxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:14 AM
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Yea, I know, I was just lazy about it this time. But it's appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:13 AM
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I skimmed it, though I did pay attention to the OP, whom says such.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:03 AM
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Then this is the media creating this "mansplaining" excuse? If that's so, then none of this actually matters lol. Media will do as they see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:59 AM
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Men and women can be platonic friends if the choose to be. Sexual depravation will influence it though. Keeping close friends of the opposite gender is ok, but may cause future romantic partners to be slightly jealous, or consider them a potential future threat to the relationship. And if that threat comes to pass? Then no one will be surprised. "What did you think was going to happen, letting your husband get so close with that woman?" It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:28 PM
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Probably why martial arts attract many. Fighting with other humans is thrilling. Sports is also probably a good substitute for this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:20 PM
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This is unprofessional. If they couldn't tolerate his behavior in meetings anymore, they should have quietly asked him to retire. Instead, its been turned into a circus. Firing someone for "mansplaining"...it's obvious they're attempting to pander to those who take such charges very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:08 PM
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What he did wrong? Let's start with "grow a pair". I have absolutely nothing against awkward men taking a shot at romance. But to give gifts and then run away like that...you can tell he was very frightened of a negative reaction from you. He should be able to face failure. This would have made things so much less creepy, and the two of you could've gotten on with your lives so much quicker. He doesn't need to be chad...he just needs to be able to take a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 09:09 PM
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I've begun to wonder, what is better, to seek excitement or to create it? Most people probably don't live exciting lives...but probably have the capacity to create some measure of excitement within their lives. Ah, I'm digressing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 09:03 PM
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I can see your point, but I I also see the other side of it: If we can boil seduction to a few techniques that can be repeated successfully across a variety of individuals, then I'd expect it to eventually feel empowering. "Can I seduce this one? Looks difficult, but I like a challenge. Let's see what happens." Probably begins to feel like a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 08:07 PM
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I acknowledge that. On a personal level, that feels absolutely foreign to me. I wouldn't want to separate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 08:05 PM
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Then, transitioning from this analogy, why would promiscuous people have issues pair bonding, if they decide to stick with one person?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:38 PM
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Wait, but is that necessarily a sex thing? If I were a barista at a cafe, I could remember the regulars but probably not the majority of customers who just walk in and rarely, if ever, return.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:37 PM
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I wonder if this lends itself nicely into the "be yourself" modern proverb. If the consequences of messing up a date are so negligible, then being one's self is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:36 PM
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it didn't matter what they thought of me. Share with me your perspective - why doesn't it matter? If I go a date, even if I don't know the person, shouldn't the impression I leave matter? If I walk in like I don't care, don't I kill the chances for a second date?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:51 PM
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Yea, I harbor the same fear. To think a relationship could be cold and mundane due to too many prior relationships/promiscuity...sounds like hell. But then again, neither do I know that's actually true, since I haven't experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:44 PM
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On an intellectual level, everything makes sense and I agree. But I don't want to be a creep. I care what people think of me, and I'd rather avoid that label.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:35 PM
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Sometimes, stories like this make me wonder. If I were in his shoes, what is the correct thing for me to do in that situation? Respect her boundaries and not kiss. Insist on the kiss. I'd think #1, yet #2 gets led to the second date. So strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:08 PM
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I doubt most who go on to break their wedding vows via cheating, we're actually happy with their marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:04 PM
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I know some people fuck on the first date. I've always been surprised that someone would allow themselves to be so intimate with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:02 PM
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Let's assume we're not talking about genuine kindness, and that we're only speaking about "niceguys". They're being "nice" because they're afraid of expressing their romantic and/or sexual desires. That's why they'd rather get clingy and shower someone in compliments, rather than be blunt and say: "I think you're hot. Let's fuck," or attempt to flirt with even the most baseline of seduction skill. Worst of all, they think men who do skillfully flirt and seduce are immoral. And when a niceguy's m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:00 PM
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Unfortunately, I can identify with this. There must be a better alternative - way too many men get sucked into video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:51 PM
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I my experience, despite living in a feminized society, men are still expected to be masculine. In a masculine society, boys understand that they'll provide, they must be strong, they must protect those they love, there are enemies who must be killed, etc. Patriarchal, masculine societies are produced from harsh environments. Take away the harsh environment with treaties and technology, and a society begins to get soft, and feminine. Soft societies produce soft men. When a shift in societal expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:37 PM
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Lol, I guess I'll just give yes and no answers from now on when talking to women. I'd hate commit the crime of "mansplaining", and be a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 03:52 PM
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And I already know men don't care about women's educational status and accomplishments. On a sexual level, you're right. But, those can be possible indicators of an attractive personality, which can be important. Is this analogous to women? A guy with accomplishments and education indicates possible good character traits, but has zero impact on sexual attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 05:57 PM
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Yea, above average attractive people usually are thought of well on first glance. Unless they prove otherwise. Below average individuals do not benefit from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 05:53 PM
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This is a great theory. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 05:51 PM
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I think this is an important question, one I don't have the full answer to. As a guy, I'd have respect for any one with the endurance, ability, and discipline needed to train for and complete a marathon. That guy is pretty cool. Apparently though, such accomplishments don't mean shit when attracting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 05:47 PM
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No big deal then, I'd probably have a drink with her if she'd be down for that. Probably wouldn't date her though, if she thinks men are gross and dislikes even talking to them. Then again, knowing myself, that would make me interested in learning more about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 04:10 PM
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That's totally cool then. The "no friends of the opposite sex" is something worth digging into. If it turns out to be as benign as this, then it's not a red flag at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 04:00 PM
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Well that's the question right? Maybe she has a ton of friends that are female, and a few acquaintances that are male, that she sees regularly due to her job or something. If she has zero interaction with men, then that's when I have to dig deeper. Is she afraid of men? Hate men? It seems very unlikely a woman could live and have no interaction with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 03:34 PM
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Depends. Woman I'm into? Yes. No doubt. Woman I'm not into? No, it can be annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 08:04 PM
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What an interesting time. C Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 02:10 PM
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This is more of a personal opinion, is it not? Possible theories on why such hesitance exists: Insecurity Unaligned principles/values Religion Intimacy Fear of partner "not being yours" Irrational repulsion for promiscuity that has no basis in logic, yet leaves a yucky feeling. There may be more possibilities for the hesitancy. I simply argue that "insecurity" isn't the only reason out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 05:38 AM
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Similar values Fun personality - good time when together. Make each other a priority. Relationship more about giving to one another, rather than taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 03:42 AM
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I think some people call that phenomenon "dead-dick", and it usually freaks people out (or so I've read). What was it like having zero libido? Indifference? Distressing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 03:14 AM
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Yea I'm sure women do it too. Probably where the term "fuckboy" originates from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 02:46 AM
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No, probably not a red flag. Now, if this individual has zero face time with he opposite sex, then it's concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:29 PM
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What? Since when do men not judge women for things besides looks? Ever hear of "practice women"? Good enough to fuck, but other significant traits come short of being worth the relationship. The judging does happen. I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:25 PM
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On a strictly logical level, yea no biggie, whatever. Some men can't divorce emotions from sex, and some consider sex to be sacred. "only casual sex" If sex isn't really isn't valuable in the least and is nothing more than two people mashing genitalia together, then yea, there's no debate here. If.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:14 PM
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Awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:44 PM
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I see - thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 08:14 PM
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Great insights (I'll reserve my opinion about the possible misogyny). Seeing as you're very experienced, which would you think is better: Meaningful sex Or Meaningless sex, with sex "on tap" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:25 PM
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I suppose there's no replacement for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:58 PM
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I once heard that banging a large variety of women can leave men feeling indifferent about sex and the women they bang. Do you agree with this kind of sentiment? Also, do you believe it's possible to recapture "meaningful sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:58 PM
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So pics still work even though you'd been on video only for years? Cool. That's relevant info. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:55 PM
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For the nerdy guy, The only thing I could see as a potential issue, is his being dissatisfied at women only now coming along as he became successful. "They thought I was shit when I was younger, and now only come around now that I've got money and connections. They never liked me who I am, only what I am." If they manage to avoid that mindset, then I imagine it's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:41 PM
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I find the whole concept weird in general. It's one thing to be inexperienced, and not be performing optimally because of it. It's another to be...prissy about it, as you described. It's not something I'd expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:37 PM
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I see. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:15 PM
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I took the time to read all those articles you linked. None of them paint a pretty picture for excessive porn usage. My favorite quotes: This one A question to those men reading this article: If you were 15 years old today, would you rather spend three hours masturbating to incredibly mind-blowing image after image of people having sex — all-the-while burning those images into your fantasy life — followed by an amazing orgasm, or would you prefer to call around for a date, risk multiple rejectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:14 PM
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Wow, now that's a reaction I wouldn't have expected from men. Fair enough response. Thank you for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:01 PM
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They seem a little spooked in that example. Hmm, now the question becomes, have young men always been "prissy" like this, or is this a relatively new issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:52 PM
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Huh. I wonder what their thoughts on rectifying the matter would be (if they believe is needs a resolution).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:48 PM
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I suppose that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:45 PM
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Do you believe that these impacts upon culture, made by feminism and modern gender roles, have decreased passion in newer generations of men? How does this play out, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:38 PM
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This is interesting information to me. Could you elaborate further? What does this "prissy" way of approaching sex look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:35 PM
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I guess I can understand that - chaining the highs together. Sounds destructive. Yes, it's like when you have a good point to say in a discussion, and someone interrupts you. Straight up pisses me off. All those simultaneous videos...it gets in the way. I can't focus. You ever been with a woman with huge boobs? At some point, I'm begin to think "These things are so big, they're actually in my way. I wish they were smaller."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:56 PM
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Lol you made me think of a family friend. He doesn't let his kids eat junk food or fast food...except about once every two months. He'll take them out to McDonalds. His kids think its the greatest treat possible - McDonalds is crazy good to them, and it's not a big deal to me. Hmm, I could certainly give it a shot. I wouldn't shoot down the theory of nofap without trying it out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:47 PM
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I've read of similar concepts, such as porn induced ED. That really is a strange practice. How does one even focus on one gif to masturbate? If it were me, all the other gifs would piss me off and get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:43 PM
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That's an interesting response. So there is nuance involved between the stimuli...and that's a good example, the difference between bikini and lingerie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:42 PM
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I see. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:28 PM
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Thanks for the additional context! I assume your sex life is back on track after successful treatment? (I can only hope so)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:23 PM
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They've bathed their neurotransmitters with so much dopamine from looking at so much hot poon on the internet So their brains are like "whatever" when it comes to visual stimuli? Reminds me of the old adage, "Hunger makes the meal taste better." So for nofap, starving...or perhaps cutting back, the endless feast of Dopamine is the way to reset their neurotransmitters? Neural plasticity and all that. Personal question (you don't need to answer) Does the sex feel better after implementing nofap?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:16 PM
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Understood. We cool fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:02 PM
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Fuck yes. Thanks, I'll take my time reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:01 PM
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Very interesting. Does this mean that many men are straight up desensitized? Is this desensitization a bad thing? Do you still practice nofap?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:01 PM
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Do you believe that watching lots of porn in that age range had an affect of any kind on you? Positive or negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:59 PM
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So this is like a positive feedback loop from hell? Men have issues getting laid. They go to porn. Porn de-incentivizes them further from getting laid. Men have issues getting laid...they go to porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:58 PM
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If I'm following correctly, cutting out porn allowed you to become erect at pictures again? Could you also elaborate a little bit about your sex hormones being a wreck? Thank you for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:54 PM
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That's interesting to know. So, knowing the person in real life makes the photo much more erotic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:51 PM
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OncleJulian, I'm finding myself interested in the topic that the article talks about, in the link you posted. You got anymore relevant articles/research? I'd love to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:47 PM
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Sex with women as lost its meaning to you? What is the difference between the time when sex meant something, and sex today? Thanks for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:45 PM
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"Nofap" is quite an unpopular topic in Reddit. Have you tried it? What were the results?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:42 PM
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Older men are both more passionate and sexual versus younger men? Any thoughts on why this may be?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:40 PM
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Thanks for the thought out answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:38 PM
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Envious? Only so far as to go, "damn dude, I wish i had a girl with her ass!" Not as far as the guy secretly in love with her. Extra competition isn't welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 03:15 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:34 AM
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That's straight on lunacy. She's 44 and still looks great. Decidedly not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:20 AM
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That sounds like the intro to a porn right there. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:14 AM
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WHAT Big boobs now equals fat? We've gone too far. I'm an ass man, but I've never considered such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:13 AM
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Interesting, but that may warrant a post all on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:12 AM
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There still are. I've heard plenty of times that a girl with a butt that I think is hot, is actually "a fat ass".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:11 AM
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I can give it a shot. No promises.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:09 AM
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Why yes, Dat ass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:08 AM
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I find that older men still have a thing for pictures. Seems for younger men, porn has made pictures nearly obsolete, like an old game boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:06 AM
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Doesn't matter to me, Hispanic dudes like myself want that ass. Glad it works though!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:59 AM
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I'm going into venture into "too much information". Forgive me. Most men I've known, if they haven't nutted in a week, pictures are great. Instant boner. If they nutted a day ago, especially to porn, then it wouldn't matter if it were Aphrodite herself. Nada.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:58 AM
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Nice 👍 Love a happy ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:55 AM
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Do guys even get a boner from pictures anymore? Free pornographic videos on the internet kinda kills such a...reaction to mere pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:52 AM
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That would be news to me. It's been my experience that white dudes were either about tits or legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:51 AM
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Are the majority white on this sub? I wonder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:46 AM
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I hear most white guys still love tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:11 AM
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Yes I've been a part of that conversation amongst women, as a man. "I barely even felt his dick, it was so small. My boyfriend is bigger, and he doesn't even know I fucked this guy the other night." I didn't really care. I just listened. No, men can be that shallow too. Happens every time I visit family and Univision is on with the voluptuous latinas on screen. "I'd fuck the brunette. Her ass is rounder than the rest." Or that one dude way back in high school that ended up dating two of the hott…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:08 AM
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I think in RP, this would be considered a shit test. I would think "this is bullshit", and wouldn't know whether to answer honestly or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:33 PM
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I see. For my curiosity: Which is more beta/low value? DLV Being afraid of DLV. I would argue #2 is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 09:36 PM
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DLV = ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:45 PM
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I don't get the point of this If someone wants to learn how to salsa dance, but is terrible at dancing, doesn't it make sense to practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:05 PM
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Example: a feminist protests for women to be able to "break the glass ceiling", making top positions in a company available to women, but said feminist is a SAHM, with no inclination to ever pursue such a position herself. Does this make her a hypocrite? Does she need to be a career minded individual to make her protest legitimate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:04 PM
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Well, that's exactly the reason for the post. In your opinion, how does this resonator with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 04:47 PM
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You misunderstood. I acknowledge that feminism's goal is to provide more choices in women's lives that were previously unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:54 AM
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"Political lesbianism" I've never heard of this term. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:50 AM
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I can agree with this. In your opinion, does the current state of feminism reflect what you stated in the first part of your response (advocating about choice), or has it become the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:43 AM
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So they've crossed over from "advocating for new options for women" to demonization of conservative values?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:34 AM
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they kinda do By this, do you mean that living it out is required, or is it something that adds to their argument by being a model of the choices they advocate for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:25 AM
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You make it sound so creepier than it actually is. Example: "Husband, I need to get some clothes for the kids, how's the finances looking?" "Honey, you can do it, but don't go over $100 - if they need more, they gotta wait 'till next pay day, it's tight right now." "Ok, got it. I'll do it now." This isn't creepy. It's coordination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:24 AM
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That's equivalent of saying, the fact that one has a boss at work means the employee is incapable of any professional growth. So I must disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 11:37 PM
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That's a good point, I hadn't considered it that way. Hmmm, this would mean that they would have to carefully tiptoe between "getting rid of stigmas" and "demonization" of such lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 10:03 PM
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So, going from your answer, in a hypothetical example, a politically liberal feminist could advocate for a woman's choice of a traditionally conservative lifestyle, if said woman wanted this? Or to rephrase - its a fight about choice above all else?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:57 PM
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I don't allude to the "feminist lifestyle". We've recently had posts use as this one, so this is sort of a post that mirrors that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:34 PM
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Is it hypocritical for an individual to advocate for something they don't intend on using? Just merely for other's use?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:27 PM
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Patients treated by female physicians had lower 30-day mortality (adjusted mortality, 11.07% vs 11.49%; adjusted risk difference Elderly hospitalized patients treated by female internists have lower mortality and readmissions compared with those cared for by male internists. According to the study, the point goes to female physicians. It should be noted that this only applies to geriatrics - Medicare patients 65+ in age. The study doesn't dive into other age ranges, other specialities, or certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:01 PM
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Sure, though I suppose it depends on what the thirst level is set to. If 8/10 constantly? Yea, hook ups abound. If 4/10? Probably no as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:38 AM
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On a purely objective scale? Interesting question! I think women's SMV is higher than men's, due to higher demand. Men are so thirsty - they'll dick a fuckin bagel, they'll sleep with a variety of women, from 2/10 to 10/10. If men and women's "thirst" levels were equivalent, who would objectively have more SMV by default? That, I do not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 10:05 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:37 PM
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It's accusations such as these, that in public many say they voted Clinton, and in private, voted Trump. Such a conversation just isn't worth having, when supporting a candidate makes one, as is now popular to say, "Literally Hitler". Disagreements on religious liberties, reproductive privileges/rights, implementation of healthcare, economy, military, foreign aid, national security, national debt...these things inspire conversation, and swing the vote. With so many issues on the line, I fail to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:12 PM
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Now we're getting somewhere. I'd have loved to read that in post, instead of searching for the meta criticism/sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:46 PM
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Right, but at least there is some small, modicum of insight to be gained - men are so thirsty they'd message a women for sex who didn't put up any pics or descriptive language about herself. It's a measurement of thirst. Even if obvious, something is there. But there's nothing for me to learn or gain insight from in this post!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:39 PM
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I'm just trying to suss out whether you actually believe what you said. To say that one very popular political party only won the US elections due to racism and misogyny...it hard to believe anyone truly thinks this. So, I'm surprised by both your characterization and "underestimation".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:36 PM
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I can see that, but OP stated that these unattractive women explicitly make known that no known benefits will be in store for men financing them, sex or otherwise. So, there's not even room for nuance - if there's zero benefit, not even for sincere gratitude, why would anyone feel validated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:28 PM
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Ok, I can agree with that assessment. For studying and countering shit-tests in RP philosophy, yea I agree with what you said. But OP asked for "male shit tests", so I threw out a potential example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:25 PM
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I always knew that there were still plenty racists, nationalists, misogynists, etc. but I never expected them to have the numbers and the vitality to get a win. This...isn't bait?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:21 PM
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An extremely strange question. I'd hesitate to believe anyone would reply with anything other than "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:45 PM
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Rephrase? I don't understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:43 PM
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Sure there is - what they consciously do gives insight about character, principles, discipline, and morality. All of which are necessary for determining STR/LTR potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:21 PM
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Women out perform men in medicine and management? How do? Is there evidence indicating so?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:06 PM
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This is well crafted bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:03 PM
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Disagree. To say that men don't notice 2/3 of women, in my opinion, is too broad. I'd believe it if it said no more than 33%, as it matches my experience as a guy, but not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 03:00 PM
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Why can't they be? Sure, most of the time they are not, but there's nothing that says they can't be premeditated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 02:53 PM
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This is an excellent explanation - easy to understand. I'm going to take some time to think this concept over; thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:13 AM
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I'd like a little more insight about "compliance tests". I've read about shit/comfort tests. How would you define "compliance test"? I know you spoke about it already, but I would like some more in-depth explanations so I understand it fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 01:37 AM
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I lurked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 05:48 PM
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Hmm...I guess ask filtering questions. If for example, I wouldn't ever enter a relationship with a drug user, I'd find a way to bring up the topic casually and make it sound like no big deal. No overt judging, get her comfortable. If she says she's not into that - pass. If she's a user - test failed. From there, she loses LTR potential, and is categorized as potential STR or perhaps FWB. Or, I could just break it off immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 05:31 PM
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Agreed. Anyone can display an alpha or beta behavior at their discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 11:36 PM
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I don't disagree with that. But I fail to believe that the life risking act of running into a burning building to save someone, is a beta behavior to exhibit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 11:24 PM
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This is not a CMV - there is no persuading your steadfast belief. We'll end the discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 10:38 PM
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Hold on and put the fucking brakes on. You lurked on TRP, but your moralizing TRP concepts of beta and alpha? Beta does not equal moral goodness. Alpha does not equal moral goodness. They're like numbers. So, no, I don't advocate spitting on anyone. But, asserting dominance, whether is palatable or not, is an alpha behavior. Being a hero and saving someone from a burning building like a fire fighter, is also an alpha behavior. Submitting to the guy spitting on you, and showing respect towards th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 10:13 PM
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Well yea, but what exactly are you arguing for here? To respect a person, place, or thing, is to exhibit a BETA behavior, which is great for getting along and creating stable hierarchies. To disrespect is to exhibit an ALPHA trait. To rebel is an alpha trait. The dude spitting on the waiter due to his position is exhibiting an alpha behavior, no matter how disgusting said behavior is. What do you propose TRPers to do? Laugh at lawyers, disparage doctors, slander teachers, and and threaten the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 09:56 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 09:51 PM
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On a theoretical scale, yea sure women could be captain. As I've seen it play out IRL, the captain woman is sorta mean and the husband is henpecked to hell. Yes, in C/FM, he's the rock and supports her via leadership, and she supports him via respect. They take care and love each other - they just play different roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 09:47 PM
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Probably because as far as politics are concerned, the word "women" is synonymous with "feminists". And to say once isn't necessarily the other always gets a reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 04:06 PM
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Masculinity is like a hammer. It can be used to assist in building things, or used to bludgeon victims to death. The only question is: how do you use your masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:17 AM
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Discussion is not equivalent to a call of action. Edit: The link below shows they are taking further actions to keep TRP focused on sexual strategy. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5rw5d7/the_red_pill_right/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:02 AM
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Support and facilitate are two different things. RP is not a movement, it is a philosophy - a collection of observations used at the reader's discretion. TRP's main directive is and remains to be the discussion of sexual strategy. While other popular topics of conversation are allowed and facilitated at the sub, this does not mean TRP as a sub is encouraging all users to become MRAs or Anti-feminists, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:57 PM
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We're devolving into semantics. I would argue that the sub-reddit does not support MRA/anti-feminism, but certainly facilitates those who wish to discuss such concepts, especially since such discussion is often times banned/received with hostility elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:46 PM
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It's also a forum that facilitates the stories of the disenfranchised. But this does not change its stated main purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:44 PM
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Won't argue, but this doesn't apply to RP philosophy. Maybe their individual actions, but not against the philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:43 PM
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I thought TRP was a sub discussing sexual strategy, first and foremost, with different concepts/techniques to be implemented at the user's discretion. How is this Anti- anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 09:34 PM
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Cool. I'll probably be on tonight or tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:26 PM
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Does it look cool as fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:56 PM
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Why aren't there ever nerds that take their nerdiness so seriously, they get hot? Like, if some nerd watched/read Dragon Ball Z, and decided he wanted to be like Goku, so he obsessively trained in martial arts and disciplined his body via working out so it reflected the character. Cosplaying at the highest, and it's still nerdy. But instead it's always fucking DnD.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:49 PM
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Obvious rules are still in play. Be attractive Be nerdy Attractiveness is never sacrificed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 03:10 PM
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I doubt GLO meant it literally. I've seen what he's written in the past - he's not stupid, but does enjoy in his own sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 08:33 AM
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Purple. I hope never to be divorced, but if it were to be, The kids are mine. I'll see them as often as law permits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 05:00 AM
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Strange scenario, but ok, let's talk. I imagine competition would be heightened amongst males...some to be chosen by women, and some who just want to be on top, knowing that a woman would approach eventually. Assuming that women will do the approaching, I believe in this circumstance, the "80/20" principle will come closer to a reality than before. And the sexual losers, with no way of being approached or doing the approaching, will become more extreme in nature, more polarizing as a harsher rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:58 AM
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Face and ass - can't imagine tits being a priority. Age: mid twenties Ethnicity: Hispanic Location: southern USA Pill: Purple SES: Middle Class
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:54 AM
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I will note however that if this was a case where the children were still young and living with the parents, the mother would most likely get full ownership of the house even if the husband paid for it, as the mother almost always gets custody of the children. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:27 PM
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Agreed. I don't mind people who don't know much, Hell, I don't know much about shit either. But those who think they know it all, like you described, can't stand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:19 PM
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This may be one of the rare moments that I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:16 PM
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Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:15 PM
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My condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 03:35 AM
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With my potentially ignorant opinion, I see this as the result of one gender evolving in its place in society, with the other not changing so much. Women are being shamed less and afforded more opportunities. Men are shamed more for "toxic masculinity", and are still expected to be "men". One role is changing more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:06 AM
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Thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:47 PM
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A leader who does not give credit where credit is due, is a poor leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:41 PM
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No matter the style of marriage, disgusting behavior and the perversion of good principles...these things are always nearby. I don't see either style as being more susceptible to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:37 PM
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And it is double edged sword. His decisions will either earn him praise or scorn. The leader takes credit and he takes blame. He must wield the sword carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:24 PM
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Yes, it can be as good, though I don't think egalitarian marriages devoid of negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:22 PM
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Your care for your wife is to be admired. Captain + first mate, egalitarianism...these are tools to facilitate a marriage. Tools can be misused, but that doesn't damn them. It's up to the user.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:14 PM
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He can overrule her in this power dynamic. He can also place her interest above his own. As my father once said, "If in the leadership of your family, you get your way all the time, you're doing it wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:08 PM
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Found it - this is the critical divergence in our views. Leadership is servitude towards the people whom he governs/leads. He became a leader to best serve them. Self sacrificial role. Leadership can also be power, to be used at his discretion, for his own agenda. Subordinates be damned. Both archetypes exist, and the captain + first mate is an opportunity for both. For better or for worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:06 PM
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I've seen this as more as a Latin American thing. Not all of us were Christian, but the women didn't enjoy their men being weak. And women still get quite a large say in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:58 PM
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And is an excellent opportunity for benevolence and leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:55 PM
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The women in my family spit on men who won't lead. It's demanded and expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:54 PM
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It is. Is this a bad thing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:50 PM
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Because he is the leader in their relationship. Help me understand your point of view - how do you perceive such a situation? What feelings does it elicit from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:48 PM
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His profession morphed into many things, but always related to IT, which he gained a PHD in. His birth father was very much like this. His step-father was not, whom he despised growing up, until he later forgave him. I won't explain the reasons for such feeling. His step-father has passed on, and we don't speak ill of the dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:44 PM
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Honestly, the best way to show it is that family is his dream. So, in a sense, he is putting his interests first - which is us. He has a spine thicker than most and doesn't take shit either. It's just how he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:33 PM
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Yes. Before you say it, no, this does not mean he equated his own wife on the same level as the children. As he'd say, "Here's the order of priority son, God Your mother The kids Me Everything else That's how I make my decisions."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:11 PM
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Very condescending, but I suppose we'll end the conversation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:52 PM
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Sure, I can agree with that. Though, I do encourage the exploration of ideas, even if presentation and the presenter him/herself fails to do it justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:51 PM
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I'm not going to. I've stated what I felt, not to troll anyone, but to express what I thought. I won't apologize nor backpedal for what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:48 PM
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Concern trolling would only be if I actively sought to change their philosophy from within the sub, pandering about whilst pretending to be one of them. I've lurked on the sub for 3+ years. There's a lot of pain in there, and I feel for them. Some ideas in there are good, some not. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:44 PM
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Whether TRP is appropriate for the lost is a different question altogether. They are looking at TRP en mass though. I think TRP gave the name to a concept that's been around for ages. Growing up and watching it, the dynamic didn't have a name, but worked very well and was no where near as hurtful as many seem to make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:41 PM
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Many red pillers didn't grow up seeing a good model of it in action. Many of them are lost. I'm not red pill, but I assume many are lost and are trying to grasp what's right for marriage like catching wind. It's a tough road for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:30 PM
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Yea, that's how I saw it to, minus the passive aggressiveness. And it's been this way for generations in my family. Some men in the family were weak, and either couldn't or wouldn't lead his family. Then we'd watch the marriage deteriorate. Everyone could smell it. And we all blamed the man. Women would smirk behind his back, and men would call him a "limp-dick", and use him as an example for their sons not to become in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:23 PM
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Agreed. It's so strange what people like to twist this concept into.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:17 PM
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Whoops, read it too fast then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:48 PM
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This is an extremely narrow way of looking at it. As I've experienced it growing up, it means the man has the final say. He also takes any blame that is to be had. My father loved to spoil his kids and make his wife smile. If anyone of us wanted something, we'd ask nicely and he'd get the final call on whether it happened or not. And he'd accept the consequences of the decision. Captain and first mate was just a way to establish leadership, not establish a dictatorship, as many people here seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:32 PM
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It's more like, "Who cares?" Everyone seems to be a feminist these days. I'd be concerned that by saying it on the first date, she may be aggressively political, which isn't fun. If I must slog through a lecture about wage gaps, checking my privilege, and so forth on the first date, then that's where I give up dating that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:33 PM
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I've seen it played out that way. I suppose I prefer the system with less bureaucracy and bullshit. I've got no further questions, thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:25 PM
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Yea I think we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:47 PM
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>"Check your privilege" doesn't mean "go self-flagellate and feel bad for being white," it just means "recognize that your experiences as a white person may be coloring your perception of this topic." Does it have to be so antagonistic though? Most people I've encountered don't say, "Echo, please check your privilege, as you're missing out an in important perspective to the situation." It's more like, "Check your privilege!", in rude sorta way. This leaves me wanting to respond, "Go fuck yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:15 PM
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I'd rather just not be guilt-tripped over my supposed privilege. I dislike that other people may be disadvantaged for things like gender or color, but I'll make no apologies for being my gender and my color.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:05 PM
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Equalization...not equality. I think I understand, but can you help out with an example here? So in the current system, both genders must be paid the same if they occupy the same position in a company. If person A is male, person B is female, and they have the same position, they are paid the same. So, in a meritocracy, if one does the minimal work possible, and the other kicks serious ass for the company... They still get paid the same. The one producing better results gets higher payment. Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:37 PM
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Wow. Now this is insightful. Feminism is labeled as a movement for equality between the sexes. Do you think feminism can/has evolved into the next patriarchy? Functionally speaking? And finally, should we push for meritocracy instead of either patriarchy or feminism? A better alternative than the classic two party system we're acquainted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 04:58 PM
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Archwinger, this is an interesting way of viewing "patriarchy". Would it be correct to say you view patriarchy as a sort of...sexual socialism? Analogous to entitlement programs, but on a different level?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:26 PM
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So something that resembles traditional masculinity. My third point was about something OP hinted at - that boys who couldn't become "real men" felt oppressed by patriarchy. How does this come about, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:21 PM
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No matter what the law says, or what political movement rallies around, men are expected to take responsibility. It's a cultural, and also religious, thing. We can make laws that say differently, we can cut men out of the picture entirely from a legal standpoint. If a dude doesn't take responsibility, he will be deemed a piece of shit. So it is, so it has been, so shall it continue to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:18 PM
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You assume so. What about all the women this individual bangs that are not in the music career?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:10 AM
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Irrelevant. We're not talking about the women, we're talking about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:07 AM
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Huh? What's your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:41 AM
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Probably. I think the take home lesson from this should be: don't become boring, have a passion, or pursue new interests when old hobbies die.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:27 AM
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To answer your question, it probably has something to do with how they want be perceived. If a guy produces music, and women love him for it, he may think, "I love music, and they love what I make. Since what I make is an expression of myself, and she likes this expression, she therefore like me." Not many people attach such a deep rooted identity thing to money. Not many think "I am money. Money is my heart, and since she accepted money for sex, she must like me". Tl;dr - they like the idea of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:11 AM
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Yes, this is a Beta behavior. And that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:06 AM
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We're not even 1 month into the presidency. I gave Obama well over 2 years before rendering any sort of judgement. I'll do the same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 12:03 AM
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How many expect it over the continuation of an LTR? I'm sure most come to terms with it as love turns from a roaring fire to a nice manageable fireplace. I'd expect many women (and men) to miss the initial feelings though every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:58 PM
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Understood. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:53 PM
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If TRP is about men doing what they must to get better sex/relationships, and RPW is about women doing what they must as well for better sex/relationships, All is fair in love and war.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:01 PM
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That's a good way of thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:47 PM
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I feel both ways. One one hand, don't tell me that shit, I don't care to know how cool they were, it makes me feel like I can't measure up. On the other hand, it makes me competitive as fuck, and I want to win and prove I'm fucking awesome. So maybe I do want to hear about them. I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:14 PM
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Have a fun date. Eat good food. Time for dessert, and some alcohol. Fuck her. ...not so different from the real thing I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:12 PM
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Ok, but more is needed from this prompt. What is a real man to you? Why do only real men benefit from patriarchy? How do "not real men" come about to feeling oppressed and such? Are "not real men" not a part of the patriarchy? Is that good or bad? What are the specific requirements to become a real man? Can't really debate on such an incomplete prompt...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:08 PM
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I'm a man myself, and the conclusion, while valid, isn't the whole picture. I've seen plenty of attractive men go for mediocre women. They were into them. You may have a belief that is rock solid, but your arguments need work. You gotta paint a better picture. I'll support you when you make yourself supportable, but I can't do so here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:59 PM
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Word.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:52 PM
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Nah, I was totally into woman #2. Rather have her than woman #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:49 PM
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Yea, but...you are trying to contradict RP. And that's not a bad thing, you do you. But you're shooting yourself in the foot. You gotta construct better arguments, and stop with the huge leaps on logic to indefensible conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:47 PM
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The conclusions that appear out of thin air are my biggest beef with this one. Edit" Wub's conclusions that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:27 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:15 PM
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This is an absolutely stellar explanation. Take my up vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:09 PM
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Did getting the view in your family's finances change your view on things growing up? I've always wondered why more parents don't let their kids see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:05 PM
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Yes, that would lead to a more accurate result, which then could be loosely translated to show what kind of women receives more/less attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:48 PM
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I can understand what you're saying, but even then, you only let us rate them with their faces. Men asses attractiveness on more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:41 PM
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I unfortunately had asthma, so I was mostly indoors. But I grew up from a young age listening to Dave Ramsay, since my dad liked his financial lessons and used them himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:40 PM
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In my own personal opinion, yes. But it was that way before your post. Your experiment on rating women, is like my dog, neutered - no ability to do anything useful, shooting blanks. It doesn't prove nor disprove our shared sentiment on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:32 PM
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Cooking, cleaning, and budgeting at an early stage in life? That's a hell of a lot better than I've seen from well-to-do white parents, where both parents were alive and together in raising their kids. It's bonkers that anyone would their kids go to college without teaching them that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:30 PM
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I made 4 different points, but this monster only addresses one with the slightest effort possible...so be it... we didn't get to see the body. Many men I've met have hit on women with less than stellar faces, because of a banging body. Some even married them! Bombarded? For a 4/10 (in both body and face)? No, but absolutely devoid of romantic attention? I'd assume not either. Such an individual probably receives a less than satisfactory level of attention from men, but I'd also assume the level …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:25 PM
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You know, for being only able to see her face, I rated exactly what I thought of her - 7/10. All the stuff you mentioned could definitely help. Edit: My dawg, summer dresses > skirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:18 PM
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Nice copy and paste, and assuming what I think, but you've misinterpreted what I said. Your experiment, does not prove nor disprove the constant attention theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:17 PM
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I don't think when it comes to cooking. I smash them together, and measure nothing. And it usually turns out good. Just like grandma did. lol I remember growing up, hearing Emerald Lagassi (or however you spell that), "kicking it up a notch".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:10 PM
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Multiple issues with your post. Asking men to rate women from 1-10, does not indicate what average men on a forum think they can attain IRL. So whenever you write "most men think they can do better than a playboy model", that's an inaccurate jump to your own made up conclusion. The average rate only indicates...the average rate of beauty assessed here. Red Pillers deliberately rate women poorly...to appear more Chad-like? This is PPD, try not to totally make shit up. I'm not red, but that's a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:02 PM
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Excuse me while I save the text of this comment. And I wasn't looking for Gordon Ramsay here - homecooking experimentation shit is exactly what I thought was coming. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:40 PM
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Dude, you got fucked up on that shit hahaha. Oh man, that made me laugh this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:25 PM
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Hmmm, I just wanted to understand what this "spiritual" connection was. Sounds more akin to getting ones feet swept off the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:03 PM
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Agreed. Can't tell if there's one specific point I should debate, or many many points... Too much effort. I'm going to sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:37 AM
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Story time? This sounds hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:33 AM
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Wow, What is bolognese sauce? And what's your recipe? Got me curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:32 AM
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I've found myself thinking the same thing. This is surely not on the same level, but when someone replies to one of my comments on Reddit, I get a little dopamine rush. And if I get it from something so trivial as Reddit, then certainly the validation from many potential suitors online must be a bigger, better dopamine hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:29 AM
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Does TRP sidebar material state that, or is that another popular saying within the sub? I ought to reread it sometime. I don't think so. TRP would argue that becoming a fit, masculine, wealthy, socially savvy man is what women actually want. Therefore, they are not at odds. TRP would argue that different cultures are at odds, not all of women and men at whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 06:08 AM
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Disagree. The actions an individual does carries a moral consequence. Words on a computer screen from the internet, do not. They're just words. Therefore, TRP is amoral, since it's nothing more than the discussion of sexual strategy. Information has no morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:13 AM
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I think that's something an EC said, not necessarily sidebar material. Archwinger probably said that. Edit: If this is wrong though, I'm willing to take that back and apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:08 AM
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Where'd that first quote come from? That's not me. Responding to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:03 AM
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Before answering, I do not think the majority of Feminists argue that single mothers are better than the coupling of mother and father parenting. Possibly, as having a father is important to the maturation of children. We should just be careful this doesn't turn into discouraging women from leaving abusive men. No. Single parents have it rough enough, I think a little encouragement to do all they can is a good thing. To actively promote singe parenthood as better than the current two parent syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:12 PM
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No, I wasn't aware...and that's horrific. Just looked it up, apparently police in Russia responded to 350 domestic abuses calls instead of the usual rate of 150 after the law was passed. It still punishes domestic abuse, but only bad shit like broken bones, or repeat offenses. I wonder if this is less a legal thing and more a culture thing in Russia, but I don't know enough to make any resemblance of a correct determination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:33 PM
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Here are my personal ratings: Woman 1 - 6/10 Woman 2 - 7/10 Woman 3 - 5/10 Woman 4 - 6/10 Woman 5 - 6/10 Woman 6 - 7/10 Woman 7 - 4/10 Woman 8 - 5/10 Woman 9 - 4/10 Note: I'm only rating face, since other pictures only had a face to compare with. Woman 10 - 9/10 Note: since these are face-only photos, these ratings only reflect facial beauty. I posit that these ratings are incomplete without seeing their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:07 PM
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When we have these discussions, it always feels so black and white. We're women being abused on a hugely rampant scale? We're something like...I don't know...70% or more of men beating their wives blue? I understand the progress and security made since such times, but I don't imagine the behaviors of humans have changed much since antiquity. The argument always sounds like men never loved their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:00 PM
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Probably not directly nor literally, but I'm sure some of it can be applicable. Of course, this all depends on your ambitions as the subsequent sexual strategy you tailor to accomplish said ambitions... But RP could be useful. Take only what you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:31 PM
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Stealing people's dreams is a abominable. I don't argue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 07:13 AM
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Interesting. I've always seen it as the opposite. With no hope for better recourse, one isn't burdened with impossible dreams, or longing for things than cannot be. It is fate at that point, which presents one singular, easy choice - to accept and face it head on with dignity, or to run and be tormented by hopelessness and the loss of control of one's destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 06:12 AM
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Surely, an acceptance of no hope allows one to face their fate with dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 05:57 AM
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False hope is another name for cruelty, though perhaps it can be merciful in select situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 04:42 AM
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So, he was an escape from her dreary boring life? And being with him was like a breath of fresh air?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:19 PM
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Yea, your point is indisputable and I agree. So far as character insults are not levied without evidence, then we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:07 PM
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Semi-interesting plot. But what is the "spiritual unfolding" you mentioned earlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:02 PM
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I'll take your word for it. Can you put in words the connection displayed in that film between the romantic couple? I'm trying to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:48 PM
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Sorry, haven't seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:39 PM
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Right, I can understand your point that muscles is not the end-all-be-all. Can you go further in depth on this "spiritual unfolding"? I'm not entirely sure what this is, or how it would look in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:32 PM
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Unacceptance? What does this look like? I'd expect the reaction to be, "Wow WTF, his wife is way younger than him. But oh well, they seem happy and the dude does good shit for this company."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:20 PM
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In all honesty, you should probably move on. I didn't take issue with the content, the concept, of your points. Just the phrasing which made it insulting. Yea it's phrase-ology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:19 PM
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This is a slight piss-off. I don't expect my partners to be my entertainment. If I'm bored, I resolve that myself instead of throwing that issue at my partner. I'd expect women to do the same - but I may be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:17 PM
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In my experience, most people don't care about the age difference much, unless she looks underage or the man is near or beyond 15 years older. In those cases, dirty looks are bound to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:05 PM
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It's your words, not your sentiment. You wish to dispute her claim, yet say she isnt being honest. There's got to be a better way to phrase it then. Also, I'm not here to pounce on you. You replied to my comment, which was a general statement with no specific targets in mind. I didn't remember who was who in that specific thread. Since you responded, then it's you who I'll discuss this with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:59 PM
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I believe she is not being honest about having been sexually attracted to him and enjoying sex with him. This is a stab at someone's integrity and/or character without evidence. Shit. People call me a liar in this subreddit every day. Where are you when they do that to me? This is also unacceptable, and I detest that. I may not have caught that, but don't let people give you that shit either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:41 PM
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This would require more exposition from Sunhappy. She states she was attracted and enjoyed sex from the obese guy. You state she detested it, but convinced herself otherwise. You could've asked for a more in depth explanation, or contrasted by saying, "my personal observations suggest you may have thought the following..." But you instead stab right at her integrity. We can argue with civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:29 PM
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Being STEM doesn't doom one to bad dating prospects. But STEM careers can attract individuals who have difficulties with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 06:35 PM
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No. If either myself or a friend experiences unrequited love, I cut them off. I protect my heart. And I don't give false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 06:33 PM
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I saw that in the last thread. Just preposterous. Ladies and gentlemen, if we're to facilitate discussion and enjoy fruitful arguments, we must argue in good faith and entertain anecdotes. Let's refrain from calling each other liars unless we got the evidence to call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 06:23 PM
1

Wow, I can feel my liver clench at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:23 PM
1

Thanks - adding that to the list
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:14 PM
1

That's true. Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:13 PM
2

Let's play Devil's Advocate. Misogyny is a belief, not an action. He may look at women like they are dogs, but dogs are lovable and he enjoys playing fetch and seeing dogs being happy. So, theoretically speaking, a misogynist may enjoy making inflicting pleasure on his sexual partners. Perhaps he may not hold women in high regards, but I dont it see why a misogynist couldn't enjoy pleasuring his partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:30 AM
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Dunno. I'm not one to spread it. I assume, the context must be discovered, as self-improvement and "being yourself" are not necessarily at odds. I had to have this explained to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 07:23 AM
2

And I was a quiet shy guy in high school and college. It's fine. Just do whatever you were doing that was successful and getting you relationships/sex, and increasing your individual happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:52 AM
2

Yea but...who cares? You say, you used to be awesome and get sweet ass. When you stopped going that cool shit, things went down hill. Just...do cool shit again and forget about the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:49 AM
2

Stop using "be yourself" as an excuse to not be cool. It's not a piece of advice to be taken strictly literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:48 AM
2

Yea sure why not. Blue pill is just anyone who doesn't agree with certain aspects of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:47 AM
2

Their sub is "satire", or whatever else they decide to call it. It's decidedly, "not to be taken seriously", which is popular consent by everyone on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:37 AM
3

Your behaviors are not that of blue pill, there of an Omega's. Blue Pill doesn't advocate for letting yourself go, being lame and boring...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:49 AM
1

Hunger games is romance? Never read 50 shades. Do you consider it a good example of "female fantasy" romance? (Possibly a dumb question, but I'm asking nonetheless)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:00 AM
1

However, in the realm of female fantasy Women of PPD, can anyone recommend good romance books aimed at female audiences? I'm tired of not knowing shit about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:51 AM
1

Value? I thought value was an expression of how useful a person is in their community/society. Certainly, there must be some very useful incels out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:40 AM
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Do women at all, judge a man by his appearance? Can they be turned on by the way he looks? Yes, everyone does this. Yes, women can be turned on by looks - other factors are at play though, but looks is one of them to consider. Are women more likely to sleep with men they find physically attractive? Yes. If they don't find him physically attractive, I imagine they'd not be turned on in the first place. Do better looking men usually have more sexual experience? Do better looking men get more oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:37 AM
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This is an example of someone getting hung up on words and labels, and entirely missing the concept and meaning behind such words. "High Beta", as I understand it, means a man has comfort traits, mentally/emotionally stable, makes decent/good money, has a spine, perhaps passionate, etc. - all without crossing into narcissism, personal instability, indulging in criminal behaviors, and without displaying dark triad traits. Some people need additional labels and such because they can't use their in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:31 AM
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Beta is a term referring to traits a man displays that makes potential mates feel comfortable with him. Beta has also developed into a slang word to be used condescendingly. "Beta Bux" refers to a man whom women are only interested in due to his money, compliance, and stability. This also expresses a man has money but is also a complete doormat. It's not bad to be Beta, in fact it's necessary to have some Beta, just try not to go all in on being a doormat piece of shit who has no spine to stand …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:25 AM
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Nope. I googled the word "masculinity" and a link to TRP was one of the first results. So I did a lot of reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:51 AM
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Why not both? When I comes to values, red flags, etc., treat it like business contract. When it comes to having fun, romance, sex, etc., be passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:25 AM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 08:13 PM
2

I define hypergamy as: The trait that women have that implores them to search for a mate that she believe is best for her, even if it may mean leaving her current mate. It's not nearly as cold and destructive as some make it out to be, though there are examples of some women being cold and destructive. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:33 PM
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They mistakenly thought that although everything else in life involves competition, their love life may be exempt from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:28 PM
3

Your comment: "I don't feel that way. I feel this way instead. Everyone else should feel similar." TRPers come from a different mindset and background, which makes understanding them essential if we are to debate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 04:30 PM
2

You don't want men to care about what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 04:23 PM
1

I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 03:49 PM
2

I once heard someone say "I like Christianity, but not so much the people who call themselves Christians." Minus the religious context, much of the same could be said of RP and TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:35 AM
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This whole thing painted my confusion with PPD when I first got here. We're we debating RP, or TRP? Now I know for sure we debate against TRPers and individual behaviors rather than RP concepts as they apply to real life, with nuance and situational factors applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:09 AM
1

I imagine a low T guy has lowered odds of aggression towards others. This doesn't mean he absolutely won't, it's a decision to hurt someone, but the odds are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:54 PM
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Yes, this is a basic safety concept that everyone should be aware of. Anyone can be a potential threat. Man or woman. There's no guarantee someone won't hurt you. This should not inspire a paranoia of sorts, but instead a healthy caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:52 PM
3

That's what I was thinking...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:26 PM
2

LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:48 PM
2

I got the same experience. And I agree with that statement entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:11 PM
3

Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:56 PM
3

Theoretically, yea. In that circumstance? Winner goes to whomever strikes first and hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:52 PM
4

Lol we're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:39 PM
2

I though you were trying to debate my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:30 PM
4

What? What's that shit matter when razor nails are gouging my eyes? Or if an unstable man decides to go from "light fun chocking" to intentional strangling?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:29 PM
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Well yea, so long as we're discussing surprise attacks in the middle of coitus, there's many creative things she can do. She could blind me by inserting her thumbs in my eyes! But in general? Men have a physical advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:12 PM
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You already screened the guy though. If the guy had a reputation for being unstable and assaulting people, would you make the same decision to be in his presence often?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:03 PM
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This is arguable? In most cases, due to increased physical strength thanks to biology, the woman would be more vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 03:57 PM
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I agree with the concept...sorta. I don't think most men are going after the 3s, but I do think most men intentionally pursue women a point or two below what they think they can get. Whether or not it's easier to date someone a point or two below your perceived SMV is another thing. It's usually a form of ego protection; they'd rather not get shot down by the woman who looks like a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 03:55 PM
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Answered the poll. I don't care about my partner's income. (I might care about the debt they bring, but that wasn't mentioned)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 03:24 PM
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Pretty much the same reasoning I have, except for the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:56 AM
1

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:26 AM
3

Hey hold on a second, What does it mean to "cut a CD"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 03:36 AM
2

Man, that means you're the one doling out the duty sex. I don't envy your position, but I highly admire your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:29 PM
1

You're welcome. Questions? Disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 05:57 PM
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Level 1 - qualification If she's hot enough to meet the "dick litmus test", she qualifies for further consideration. Level 2 - STR If she has a personality that's works with mine and has similar values, a short term relationship can ensue. Level 3 - LTR If she meets all the above, and mutual feelings deepen for one another, the relationship may evolve into an LTR. As for your question, no. I dislike the idea of having sex with someone with no consideration for a future relationship. This is a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 05:48 PM
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Anyone who is good enough for sex, is strictly and only good enough for sex. If there's a compatible personality/chemistry beyond that, then there's grounds for a relationship that could result in an LTR. I think we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:48 PM
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For the absolute only consideration of sex? Sure. IRL we'd have to talk about values, personality, etc. But for sex - sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:18 PM
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You can't control who your daughters decide to sleep with, nor how often. I'm no parent, but I imagine all one can do is raise them with the values they wish to see internalized, stand by said principles when they push boundaries, and then trust them to behave as you've raised them. There's no guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:40 AM
1

These things are separate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:36 AM
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Too many questions, too complicated in your evaluation. Men may say "she's a 7 outta 10", but that's just a cursory evaluation of beauty. It's binary when it comes to sex. Fuck, or no fuck? Yes or no? 0 or 1? For instance, I could sleep with a 5/10 for one night, one week, one year, or until ED onsets from old age. This hypothetical woman passes the "Fuck or no Fuck" litmus test. That's all my dick cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:33 AM
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Agreed - we should try to encompass critical issues while maintaining simplicity in the monogamy contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 09:24 PM
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So this is in relation to a dead bedroom scenario, that has no basis in medical issues, stress, or anything out of the ordinary. While I agree with the contractual idea you've presented, one of the two parties is going to have a bad time. If sex devolved into a dead bedroom situation, wouldn't it be a matter of attraction? This would mean, if I became an unhygienic, fat, piece of shit, my wife would still be contractually obligated to have sex with me. I think the dead bedroom scenario would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 08:50 PM
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Non-overweight you say? Probably the majority. That is, if we're not accounting for personality and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 05:35 AM
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But it's not only a power play. I mean, there's gotta be people out there who are married, that are barely making it paycheck to paycheck because of the combined incomes of both people. They need each other financially, and emotionally. Teamwork makes the dream work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 06:58 PM
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It's certainly not a power play like: "I'm the only thing keeping you alive". Oh! Here's a better example: It's like volunteering. I go where I am needed - there's work to be done, but there's not enough people to do it. I see the need and I fill it. If I'm not needed, then why stick around? I have no purpose there. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 06:42 PM
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I understand what you're saying, but I think it's strange that someone cannot be both wanted and needed at the same time. To just be wanted, like an accessory item or a pet...sorta just dampens my pride. But so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 05:28 PM
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Proabably the majority of them are such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 03:53 PM
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It's strange think I'm not needed. It's like "I want you around sometimes, but you're not necessary or needed." What a downer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 05:33 AM
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Oh yea, but I think I only heard that when I was in elementary school. Man it's been a while since I've heard that phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:34 PM
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Link isn't working for me. Based off the link's words though, isn't it saying "70% of women getting abortions ID as Christian", instead of 70% of Christians are getting abortions? The difference in interpretation is big.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:25 PM
1

I heard that from a couple kids, but rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:23 PM
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I'd argue that your use of high profile "conservatives" isn't the model to traditionality, however, Traditional ways of life are being eroded in the modern world. Edit: The abortion thing is a religious/conservative value, and can happen under traditional and non-traditional marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:12 PM
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This isn't breaking news. Both have fertility issues as time progresses, with the exception that one gender's fertility absolutely fails at some point. And I'd argue that both gender's have a wall of a sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:59 PM
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Wait a sec, "traditional" doesn't mean "must marry before 20. Traditional marriage may include things like young couples, religion, and low n-counts, but that's not the defining factor. It's the behavior displayed by the couple within the marriage that determines if it's traditional or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:57 PM
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And there's a chance that if a grew a third eye on my forehead, I can see the future. /snark We need more to go on if we're going to have a meaningful discussion! I can't even tell if you'd be right or wrong with your hypothesis, because any response would be based on speculation. Your hypothesis is just more speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:28 PM
1

Ok, this means I'm arguing against a non-argument. "We know they didn't farm, farmers act like this, and since cavemen didn't farm, ergo, they have the same liberal ways of living as city folk." If we don't know jack about cave people culture, how can you argue they didn't have a hierarchy? Shit, with so little info, how can we have meaningful discussions about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:21 PM
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That's so backwards. If this was cavemen days, I'd expect "cavemen" to be high testosterone, very patriarchal, and to view women as objects they own. You damage their property, and they will kill you. I'm not a caveman, and I don't view women in that light, but I'd still wouldn't put up with someone hurting my sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:19 PM
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Because men are typically expected to be solution oriented. If a woman has a problem, we listen and empathize. If a man has a problem, we do the same thing, then tell him to get off his ass and fix it himself, with our encouragement. So, do you want to be a man, or just have the same opportunities a man has without the ramifications of being a man? It's an honest question - I have no intention to antagonize.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:16 PM
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No. But that's why I asked the question in the first place: my perspective could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 04:06 PM
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I don't mind asking stupid questions or looking like an idiot if it means I get a straight answer or if I learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:59 PM
1

What a strangely hostile thing to say to someone trying to have a simple discussion. You ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:49 PM
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"telling an adult is the bravest thing you can do."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:45 PM
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From the principle in high school: "We have a zero tolerance policy for fighting. If someone fights you, be a man and take it. That's the manly thing to do."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:33 PM
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As a kid, my mother always said if someone did that to my sis, She'd "have no problems going to jail for what came next." Then she'd give me that death glare, and I knew that it was expected out me too. And I accepted that. It's strange to think not everyone feels the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:28 PM
1

Do you want to be treated like a man, or do you merely want the same opportunities a man has?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:20 PM
3

Eye for an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:18 PM
1

Wish your post was related to the click bait title. I'll answer your title instead of your post. Answer: It doesn't matter what I'd feel. If there's no police, then there's nothing protecting him from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 02:10 PM
1

I don't understand what you're asking. Equal opportunities Or Equal results. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 01:35 PM
1

Virginity never turned me on...and I suspect most men don't find such a concept erotic. I thought it was sorta romantic, but never erotic. I'm not going to speak on behalf of all men though since it's not a subject often discussed IRL for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:21 AM
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Disagree. The friend-zone is not where someone wants to be. It's either due to rejection from the crush, or self-rejection (I.e. He/she didn't have the guts to make a move). Anytime I've talked to someone in the friend-zone, and from my limited experience with it myself, it's always been expressed as a piss poor substitute for a much desired relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:13 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 07:36 PM
2

Always thought this is how it was measured anyways. Alpha and Beta are behaviors that anyone can do at their leisure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 07:30 PM
1

I can assure you of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 07:26 PM
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And it's never too late to start My uncle is nearly 50, and still bedding women in their 20s. I can believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 07:07 PM
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Disagree. "Handsome" may not be a litmus test for sexual attractiveness, but it's still a compliment on one's appearance. If someone is ugly as hell and unkept, he isn't going to be called handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:00 PM
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Sure, then as a 40 year old, a guy like that is probably cleaning up the place. I say unlikely, because I honestly wonder how many people would work that hard for so long to achieve this, but I wouldn't place it out the realm of possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:52 PM
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Individual case by case basis. For some, I imagine so. For others, maybe they can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:50 PM
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Is he's over 30 and looking to be part of the so called 20% that getting 80% of ass (AKA, a sexual elite), then yea probably it's a little late. But just hitting "fuckable" levels with a decent lifestyle that maximizes happiness with current constraints - reasonable. Sucks to be a super duper late bloomer, but better to bloom late then never at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:00 AM
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Sure it's possible - I've done it before. "Volcels" exist. They're not usually strange space aliens or something, but maybe religious or adhere to a personal moral code/standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:53 AM
1

Does gender really play a part in noticeable amounts of votes? I couldn't give two shits about someone's gender. I read their background like a resume, look at accomplishments, and study the message given at debates to make my vote. Gender just doesn't factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 05:05 AM
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My sister has this kind of personality. I've come to expect this with all my interactions with women unless proven otherwise, which always feels great. Just laugh it off and move on. Some people's nature is like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:52 AM
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Lol. He's proclaimed his faith multiple times in public. He's Christian, and his financial advice is influenced by his faith. Just cause he isn't giving sermons and forming prayer circles on radio doesn't mean he ain't Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:32 AM
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That's the way to live in my opinion, and I admire the way you've handled your finances. There's lots of people out there making $100k+ per year, yet are living paycheck to paycheck due to overwhelming debt. The borrower is slave to the lender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 04:25 AM
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Dave Ramsey has always advocated joint accounts, and therefore, joint debt. His financial advice is influenced by his Christian faith, so he believes that "two become one in flesh" also applies to finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:56 AM
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Dave Ramsey has always advocated joint accounts, and therefore, joint debt. His financial advice is influenced by his Christian faith, so he believes that "two become one in flesh" also applies to finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:54 AM
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Definitely. Having a low income with no debt is kinda comfy. High debt is hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 01:48 AM
1

As justice boner arousing as "break her" sounds, I would just cut and go. I don't give people 2nd chances to get in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 10:26 PM
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I know, I grasped that. I was just showing you the mental process.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:34 PM
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Some of us go through that shit of crawling back to an ex. I did it once, hated it, but the experience set me free. I like to refrain from being offensive, but - Fuck that bitch. I've always believed that the best girl I got, is whomever is the one hanging on my arm. The more you ruminate on this ex, the longer you keep letting her hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:33 PM
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I've always been the type to explore concepts and find words for them later - if that makes sense. Just Be yourself Hypergamy Frame Self-confidence AWALT Etc. I understand that these are the expressions of a concept seen and observed. People get hung up on a phrase or a word, and miss the meaning entirely. It's also one of the reasons why I made this thread - is this literal (and this disprovable), or did I miss the point? I know I ain't always the sharpest, so sometimes I got to poke and prod.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:27 PM
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I see. Thanks for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:52 PM
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Fuck I thought this was one of those that were to be taken literally in RP philosophy. If it's a general statement meant to convey a concept yet leave room for nuance within normal human behavioral parameters... In short, I agree with what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:39 PM
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Not to reduce your essay (and interesting personal story) into a sound bite, but would I be correct in understanding if I said: Men are the gatekeepers when they live interesting lives and are slightly detached?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:34 PM
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I guess we can agree then on the gatekeeper thing. Your story is painful though, and I hope you enjoy better prospects in the very near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:30 PM
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Ok, I understand your perspective. I could also imagine that the more patriarchal (less feminist) a society is, the more this comes into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 04:00 PM
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I did not expect to read an in-depth analysis about Taylor Swift's public persona this morning. I highly enjoyed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:56 PM
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Haven't a noticeable amount of teen girls always been into the boy-band types? All the links looks sorta like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:47 PM
1

Probably a good comparison for the current state of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:45 PM
1

The woman's desire for a man's finances...is this what you believe makes the man the defacto gatekeeper?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:44 PM
1

So the custom of men proposing to women means men carry the title of commitment gatekeeper. I can respect that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:15 PM
1

Right, but this displays a huge power discrepancy within the relationship. With your two examples, doesn't the title of commitment gatekeeper go to the one with a lesser investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:13 PM
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I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:00 PM
1

This implies that sexual commitment and relationship commitment are separate things. So she can be committed one way but not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:35 PM
1

I grew up with a conservative Christian background. I have an open mind, but it clashes with what I've known all my life. It would probably cause serious cognitive dissonance, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be explored.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:32 PM
1

The relationship isn't provided by both sides? Can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:31 PM
2

I see. Thanks for your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:22 PM
1

Ya'll take RP shit too literally. Hey it's a debate sub - we gotta test each other's ideas. So you posit that the whole gatekeeper thing is more like a cautionary tale? Pursue, but don't put all your eggs in one basket?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:09 PM
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Didn't take that into consideration - so he pursues yet also holds the power in the relationship at the same time. Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:07 PM
1

Does this make the "men are gatekeepers" an antiquated concept then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:02 PM
1

Wow, this is well explained! Ok, another question: do "alpha widows" seek the same commitment from men? It would appear they would have trouble committing fully to a new partner...would this put her in the gatekeeper position?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:59 PM
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Yes but we're making the assumption that they are equal. I can't imagine a "beta" doormat kind of guy being a gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:54 PM
2

I'm not sure what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:51 PM
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Oh, I get it now. It's not about the standard, it's just about the communication. Can't argue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:51 PM
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That sounds very relaxed. Hmm. Thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:45 PM
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Was there something more you needed to add? I love it when they want more! Yes. Why do you propose a standard which is bound to fail and be completely ineffective? Of course, I don't refer to its content, I rather agree with it. It cannot be enforced, and will most likely to be ignored. So what's the point? Posturing for the sake of posturing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:37 AM
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Interesting opinion - would you please elaborate for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:18 AM
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Except while you made your post with good intent, people will follow it or not, at their whim. It's nice, but I have no faith it will have impact. The responsibility of clear communication lies upon the individual, not arbitrary rules than cannot be enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:10 AM
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Yuck, I've always held rape in entertainment media as distasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:06 AM
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A standardized vocabulary is a nice fantasy. In a debate, especially on this sub, it's the responsibility of the individual to clearly communicate his/her point. It would be prudent to assume that anyone an individual debates against is ignorant and requires careful and simple-to-grasp explanations. With this in mind, I would hope insightful discussions are created, and those involved argue in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 02:00 AM
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A mix of shyness, cautiousness and conservative & religious values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:28 AM
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Wow, For a commentary on online discussions for sexual practice...these are the words I was searching for to describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:24 AM
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Ha, even in the Cuban community, you can catch many of us holding the same opinion on immigration. Still, it's actually high time I do that, and maybe learn some Spanish while I'm at it. I can only imagine what kind of experience that may be. It sounds more like what I might do in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:04 AM
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Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:40 PM
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1). Im going to do the inverse - get the job, save money, then travel. I want to, but so long as I got a mortgage, I'm playing it safe. 2) what a coincidence, I've already made plans to go to my first meeting this week. Very excited to speak on front of a crowd again. 3) not in those cities...though, I wonder what the process is for becoming an agent. I'll research later. 4) oh shit, that's good. Used to do a lot of swing dancing in college, time to get the rhythm again. 5) I see the value, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 10:27 PM
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You're not kidding. I got a lot of friends from college that I look up to, who are still waiting tables and barely keeping up with rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 10:20 PM
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Thanks. Chalk it up to saving money religiously, and avoiding debt like the fucking plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 10:02 PM
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LOL I don't think those are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 09:07 PM
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It doesn't mean a loss in faith in God, just learning to deal with a non-optimal love interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:52 PM
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Sure. Single, skinny w/average looks, Mid twenties, Bachelor's Degree, owning a townhouse in suburbs. Currently seeking employment. Highly professional, beloved by teammates (when I'm employed) and customers. Hobbies: grew up loving video games, running (did cross country in HS), reading, public speaking/presentations, volunteering. How's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 08:43 PM
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Let's do the inverse: if a person has zero interesting stories to tell, how can they quickly get such experiences within...let's say, a month? Or in other words - how does someone enrich their life right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 07:58 PM
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Opinion: a 10/10 night with a 5/10 girl is way better than the inverse. Though, I'd like to believe some people do live extremely interesting lives with beautiful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 05:33 PM
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After hitting your mid 20s, most Christians realize that isn't attainable anymore. If they have a problem with it, they usually just swallow it and never speak of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 05:29 PM
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I was just discussing this with family recently. Brace yourself, we're about to hit the "grey zone" here. A passing thought, impulse, or temptation is not bad. Ruminating and deliberately entertaining such thoughts are bad. It's made clear in NT that a person should strive to control their thoughts. Some people would equate that to Law of Attraction, but I digress.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 05:10 PM
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You got more? I'm ready - whatcha got?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 04:54 PM
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Besides the laws regarding slavery and multiple wives, views about sex has largely remained the same - reserved for marriage, and frequent sex within marriage is encouraged and commended. What changed the most was the introduction of "sin forgiveness", which has led to Christians having an attitude of "it's in his/her past, it doesn't matter anymore." Christians like to conveniently forget about the OT at their leisure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 04:51 PM
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