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Self hating and low probably
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:36 PM
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Again with this fairy tale
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:53 PM
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As a straight guy, I kinda enjoy gay men hitting on me, somehow it’s a sweet and unique experience. Of course it comes to mind that the standard for ONS in the community isn’t sky high, but I don’t fixate on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:01 AM
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I mostly get hit on by women I think are ugly, but that’s fine by me because women in general don’t seem to be the default approachers, they start approaching mostly when no one approaches them. Also I understand why they think I’m a good target (short height and receding hairline), I’m not delusional, I understand why they deem me to be in their league. I’ve been on dates with women who were somewhat more attractive and I can now see that I don’t really have to try too hard to find an girl who’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:56 AM
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That may be but it wouldn’t have been as funny and popular if it didn’t have a decently sized grain of truth inside
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:51 PM
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Yes, it was because I just didn’t feel like it, she reacted calmly and we just cuddled
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:39 AM
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In many cases in my history I did manage to get that feeling, but it took some time and effort. I think it pays to be realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:06 AM
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2 is suuuper sketchy and does apply, but rarely. From my experience it pays to be patient. I’m talking to a girl right now who would wait a whole day to answer me the first 2 times we talked, but now she answers quickly when she has time and I’m planning on asking her out soon. In the past I’ve ruined a few good things with enormous response time induced insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:02 AM
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arggggh i feel so jealous of my eastern europe homie now!!! arrrrrgh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:08 PM
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Yes, and if he wasn’t, would that change your mind about the general population somehow? Hope not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:07 PM
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Great anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:37 PM
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Cool, amazing, what a beautiful anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:58 AM
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Im not sure but my problems and insecurities didn’t go away with my virginity, they only started to get better after like 2 years of therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:29 PM
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Also chefs? When I read that I was flabbergasted, like “golly! Chefs are wholesome thought right?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:54 AM
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Dont be agressive for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:48 PM
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Started out nicely and then went psychopathic, just a regular day on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:03 AM
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There’s luck in there but if I wasn’t respected I’d end it in an instant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:23 PM
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I dont know what kind of men those are, but I set my boundaries straight and it works. I give words of appreciation and kind gestures to my gf all the time, but I’m not afraid to say “you shouldn’t do that if you respect me” when I feel like it. I’m always collected and respectful but direct. She says it’s hot when I do that, and we have been successful even though there’s several differences between us. I honestly don’t know why these women don’t lose attraction to these pushovers, it’s probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:15 PM
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This is hilarious, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about at all. I feel sorry for you man, I hope you will once find brothers as good and well-vibing as I’ve been blessed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:41 AM
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It’s just that now it seems like minding another persons vagina is oppressive but minding another persons penis is crucial and anti-patriarchal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:47 PM
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But those men arent hypocrites like onlyfans “feminists” are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:45 PM
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healthygamergg on YouTube is the best I know. A ton of free material regarding building self-esteem and social competence, dating, a lot of material for adult virgins, people addicted to porn- you name it. It’s run by a Harvard psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:18 PM
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But even the best looks alone won’t get you there. You always need a baseline of confidence and social competence. One of my good friends is a dark haired, buff 6’3 white guy with a perfect symmetrical face, sharp jaw, pointy nose and a full head of hair, and out of some 10 girls he’s ask out IRL so far they all rejected him. He has ADHD so even though he’s already put in a ton of work into his social skills it’s still a sort of a puzzle for him to carry a conversation, that’s the way he talks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:16 PM
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Im not even that and at 5’6 I’ve had 10 sexual partners within the last 3 years. You can do it, I’m sure. I can send some useful free online resources if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:46 AM
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I’ve been with girls who came often, sometimes quite quick, with ones with whom it took longer, and ones who I almost never could bring to it (maybe never at all), but one thing is for sure, definitely not all of them tell you what they like. Sometimes I need to really dig deep to get any kind of feedback which is frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:37 AM
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The dumbest take
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:32 PM
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I think it’s a good bet, honestly. Most of us mature overtime, take on more and more responsibilities. Unfortunately, 1 in 100 people will be a guy who really is just a fuckup by nature, but that’s the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:38 PM
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You’re right. On a separate note, wouldn’t you agree that anyone participating in the discourse can try to influence others’ decision making, and push some ideas that can benefit us all in the search for a happy relationship, like considering altering our standards? In other words, do you think someone may read your comments and actually change their attitude towards a potential partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:14 PM
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No, they don’t learn it soon enough, they learn it after getting pumped by the top men 1000 times until they slowly start getting tired of it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:17 PM
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It only somewhat depends on where you look. Even ambitious, intelligent women more often than not have shallow standards. Just a couple of days ago I heard some good female friends of mine (med students) bash someone who they didn’t like for his short height. All it took for them to reduce someone to that was not getting along with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:16 PM
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So just because they’re weak they’re allowed to let loose on their creepy tendencies and make others uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:55 PM
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I guess, but I think it’s important to raise a question of where those enormous standards came from. Used to be, you vibed with someone and went from there, now it’s collecting social points. We can at the same time not shame those who fell into the trap, and fight against the bias that destroys our environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:08 PM
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Not “many” of you by any stretch, SOME of you. I’ve been happy with my success with women, it has more or less matched my expectations, but let me tell you, it always takes a lot of searching and a lot of compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:06 PM
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You’re right and it’s just so awful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:05 PM
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Am i to assume you’re saying that after achieving your natural potential, or making some significant gains at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:45 AM
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If nothing else, sculpting your body through exercise and your mind through meditation. Those two anyone can afford, anyone can provide for themselves, and those already are beautiful gifts and a space for personal growth. For most it’s much more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:27 PM
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Most of the men will be somewhere in between- no success with lady A and B, but then some success with lady C. That’s the most common experience, yet somehow if you’re in one of the two extreme situations you’ve described it’s hard to realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:23 AM
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If you’re in a bad place mentally, all that life has to offer can disappear from your sight in a split second. You have reasons to live. Please seek professional help online- it’s free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:21 AM
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There’s also men like me who have average success but feel like no success at all sometimes and for that reason get the incel superpowers that enable them to thoroughly research the topic whenever the insecurity kicks in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:18 AM
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They weren’t really “attractive” like you see on the internet, just normal, smart, decently looking girls who take care of themselves- which of course is awesome, but it’s an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:23 PM
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I got so fucking lucky that I managed to barely swing into the world of dating and I was able to start a spiral of average, decently attractive and smart girls wanting something to do with me. I sometimes feel like just one less point on the scale, one less encouragement from my parents, and I’d be stuck in porn and hatred my whole youth, like 25-35% of men are now. I already have it hard sometimes, can’t imagine what it’s like for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:36 AM
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Yes it can, and the patronizing tone of your first paragraph is a perfect example of the reason for that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:33 AM
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It contradicts what the person above says, they say financial problems are #3. Are these actual, long-lasting problems usually, or is it sometimes like “you were supposed to get rich and you haven’t, I’m leaving you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:02 AM
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Yes, and how it may make its way into your head is a pretty important matter- a mystery for many of us. Some are truly confident without trying much, others- like me- take lots of time, therapy and working on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:05 PM
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Acting confident? Most of the time, nothing. But acting confident without actually being cofident hasn’t brought me much. Once I get close and vulnerable with the girl, the charm wears off and I disappoint
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:48 PM
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That’s a fair take, thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:52 PM
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The only people who bang a lot of bitches are the confident ones. It also applies to the good looking men- they still need to take the initiative. I have a 9/10 friend with ADHD who actually struggles because of a lack of confidence and social skills. It would be useful to have the mindset depicted in the post early on in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:47 PM
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Yeah I know, dying faster, having a vastly bigger chance of becoming homeless or getting thrown in jail, being several times more likely to commit suicide is amazing. Also if a war breaks out and I get drafted while women get to stay in their cozy beds I’ll be saying “At least I don’t have periods”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:48 AM
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So what really is flirting? By some people’s definition, if a girl compliments me, laughs at my jokes and shows interest, it’s just being nice and I shouldn’t do anything creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:46 PM
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Is there a way to internalize this as a young person? Seems like a powerful quality to have
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:45 PM
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100% this. The least experienced girl I’ve slept with so far was the absolute best at sex. Best energy, involvement, technique and willingness to try non-vanilla stuff, and she’s only had sex 3 times before me. The super experienced loose ones only have their expectations higher, so not a great deal. It still doesn’t matter to me that much, I don’t discriminate, but I very much agree with op.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:02 PM
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Yeah it’s a stretch on their part, but only at the age of 21 I am beginning to understand what it means to feel unsafe a lot of times, like while walking around at night. I had to defend a girl from a predator recently so it opened my eyes a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:24 AM
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I usually have sex the first time I meet somebody, but I couldn’t have sex with someone else after that, even if we openly want to keep it casual. I need/often feel an emotional connection, and my conscience would kill me. But at the same time I have commitment issues, so I prefer dating people who I know I won’t be able to go long term with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:23 PM
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If anything develops your brain to think outside the box, it’s philosophy. If you combine it with an interest in a valuable field and/or some additional education, you can think further ahead than many people around you. It not only provides you with the obvious stuff, like teachings of different scholars, but provides a very detailed understanding of what a mind/thinking/reasoning is. Any researcher, any developer can use this sort of skill set.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:10 PM
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Of course it does, one could only say it doesn’t when they don’t know much about what it teaches
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:22 PM
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You seem very inclined to prove a point based on anecdotal evidence for someone reportedly very highly educated
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:26 PM
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I think it’s a two way street, some miss out on dating because they don’t socialize, and some try and get discouraged
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:21 PM
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Crazy cat lady argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:37 AM
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I feel like just like we shouldn’t fall for a dichotomy of alphas and betas, the dichotomy of “active confident guys” and “inactive porn and gaming losers” is also false. I, for instance, feel like I’m something in between. I don’t play video games at all, but have been addicted to porn for about 10 years now, which somewhat impacts my confidence, energy levels and brain function. But that said, I still do fine with average women, and have been for over 2 years. I do admit though, that I still m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:32 AM
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What does it feel like for you to be accepted despite not being perfect? What if you could look into a girl’s mind and see that she genuinely finds you attractive, even though somewhat less that some next guy, but she still wants you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:08 PM
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On the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:01 PM
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Its not ideal either. Among highly educa marriages, divorces are initiated in 90% by women, mostly because they overtake their husbands in career related pursuits and don’t feel “>>safe<<“ anymore cause man should earn more girl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:17 PM
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Not all girls use dating apps, and especially not all of them only rely on them in meeting new people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:32 PM
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I admit that they live by a completely different set of rules, but I don’t agree that it automatically means that us average guys can’t exist in the world of women on our- however harder- terms. Some may say that we mostly inherit chad widows who have learned their lesson. It is somewhat true, and somewhat not. I just met a sweet girl who has little experience and a great deal of appreciation to my ugly ass. It’s anecdotal and you need some luck, but it’s 100% possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:30 PM
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Yeah I experienced that as well, I felt shitty because I thought it had something to do with not trusting me and not being willing to show me too much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:07 PM
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Openly? To their face? By men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:59 AM
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Of course. Men are taught from birth that you need to respect and be nice to the ladies, “be a gentleman”. Don’t ask the woman their age, don’t comment on their looks, don’t ask if they’re pregnant- all that cliche stuff, all those rules I was forced to learn and respect. Then I grew up and had women openly mock and ridicule me for my height and hair loss. There absolutely is a double standard, but of course some women will still say they feel repressed and shamed for their bodies. I will admit …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:08 PM
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If I was not interested initially then I’d more or less not care, but even if I no longer frequently think about a girl I used to be interested in, I still get very jealous and worked up over finding out that she’s with someone else. I don’t want to confront the reality of not being enough for yet another person. It doesn’t make sense but it hurts a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:44 AM
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Depends on what you mean exactly. I usually do stay that way after being rejected as a partner, but we only come into contact when it happens naturally, like during classes. I’ve tried texting and talking frequently with that premise, but that just causes me to feel jealous and like a cuck. In such a friendship it’s impossible to freely discuss dating etc, which for most people is important and engaging, so it feels forced avoiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:25 AM
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You’re right. Also I still have it better than some. I have friends whose confidence is paralyzed and they’re very fatalistic in their outlook on life, because they’re still virgins in their 20s which makes them very insecure. I don’t have that problem, and until a girl speaks about how she only likes tall guys around me, I usually feel decently confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:19 AM
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I watch if the words match actions. Unfortunately in the last it’s been only after at least 2 weeks that I would realize I’m being used, so it’s hard to completely avoid that. I think it may come off as creepy, but girls putting out makes me more relaxed and trusting. After the first time we have sex I usually become a little goofy/chill and more caring, because now I know this person really likes me and is worth being vulnerable in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:17 AM
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Probably. I don’t think I belong in this category though, I’m not THAT funny. The fact that I rarely have nothing to say to hold up a conversation requires some involvement and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:11 AM
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I sometimes feel insulted because of not being able to get casual sex, I don’t understand why for some people the rules of the game should be different. But on a positive day I accept it and I’m happy about what I have, I remember the girls who loved and liked me for who I am. Perspective plays a big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:54 PM
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I like being appreciated for my sense of humor, but I’ve been used for that in the past. I’ve had situations when I stated my expectations clearly and was still played with and led on. I was fun and smart enough to be an entertaining simp, but not handsome enough to be a mate. That’s insulting. That doesn’t change my opinion of women as a whole, because I was still blessed with a few fulfilling relationships, but being treated as a dancing monkey is very much a thing men should look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:48 PM
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I dont think that applies to all, or even most women. I’m not attractive, but after I’ve managed to get a woman to agree to go out with me, my success rate is really decent. Women feel comfortable, sexy, interesting, listened to and cared for when with me. I have no shame in flirting, I am intelligent and fun to talk to, and that’s why kissing at a party or sleeping together on a first date isn’t a foreign concept to me. And I’m 5’6 and balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:06 AM
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I think a big part of the problem is average men not being taught now to 1 flirt 2 make their intentions clear 3 respect themselves 4 read body language 5 read complex signals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:42 PM
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I just hate myself and sometimes my brain craves a way around that fact, that’s when most of the involvement in such discussions happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:26 PM
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This is extremely important and largely omitted, for some reason. It’s a much better setting to approach women when you have something in common with the people there, when you can showcase some of your skills/talents, creativity, ability to work in a group etc. For that you need some sort of activity; you can dance, do sports, do theater, write creatively- anything. It’s harder to stand out just in a regular group conversation, especially if the first impression you give because of your looks d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:44 PM
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I don’t think about it. Ive found enough ok people who were interested in me to believe than one of them will eventually turn out amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:11 PM
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Believe it or not, Ive had and continue to have meaningful relationships with women, even though they talk about chads and act in a belittling way to my face from time to time. I suck it up, I’m polite and stick with what’s available, but I don’t think this issue should be left to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:30 PM
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Creepy af
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:02 PM
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The only good solution I have as of right now is going into the world and meeting women who I have something in common with. I have some experience in wooing women by getting into a study program they applied to (4 expressed admiration) but didn’t get in, having knowledge in subjects they’re interested in. I assume that mechanism would also apply to the other interests I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:02 PM
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That doesnt quite solve the problem because of how big this phenomenon seems to be in some cultures. When I’m 30, I don’t want almost all available women around to be dumb chad widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:50 PM
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I’m so much more into thick than skinny, I actually don’t mind noticeable belly fat as long as it doesn’t lead to morbid obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:22 AM
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I don’t agree with this one bit. A woman might change her face alone with makeup to some degree, but once it’s off for someone who stays overnight, the charm passes. Women can be admired for their sense of humor, ambition or status (which you have more control over than physical traits), but those don’t have much impact of how attractive a woman is to men. Men, on the other hand, can drastically improve their overall attractiveness through non-physical adjustments, simply by social measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:55 PM
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I don’t agree with this one bit. A woman might change her face alone with makeup to some degree, but once it’s off for someone who stays overnight, the charm passes. Women can be admired for their sense of humor, ambition or status (which you have more control over than physical traits), but those don’t have much impact of how attractive a woman is to men. Men, on the other hand, can drastically improve their overall attractiveness through non-physical adjustments, simply by social measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:55 PM
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This doesnt work for me, since I believe I have some features that are 100% just wrong and compatibility in that case comes from acceptance of those flaws, therefore I see the concept of a woman who I perceive as attractive being interested in me as an act of mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:01 PM
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A note to self and other men: when I looked closely, not all of those comments mention height, although the ones that do are on the top. I pay special attention to the height requirements and they grow enormously in my eyes. It took taking a step back to realize that I’m making a bigger deal out of this than I should. If you’re looking into boosting your ego as a short dude by fucking left and right, I don’t have good news for you, but if you’re looking for love, the bias isnt actually as strong…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:41 AM
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Do your standards stem from the fact that you don’t mind being single and are willing to be more patient for a prince on a horse to come around, or from ego, or elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:36 AM
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“Short man have short sons” what bullshit, genes don’t work that way. My father is a 5’11 son of a 5’6er, and I myself am 5’6 somehow, magically. I don’t assume if I marry a taller girl, our kids will be tall, they may or may not and that’s ok either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:33 AM
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„I’m 5’3 so that isn’t an insane ask” well, it’s either impossible to be shorter or taller than that, so that isn’t an “ask” of any kind actually
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:29 AM
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I’m short and I don’t believe I deserve attractive women, so I’d get very insecure and probably would go mad and someday say the wrong thing, and she would rightfully leave me. I’m highly physically active myself and I love gym, and I encourage everyone to attend, but the insecurities are still very much real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:56 PM
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Curvy, also if the ones at the bottom were slightly overweight, I’d still pick them over those top ones. I love curves and I love to get smothered by a girl, I like to feel safe and overwhelmed while hugging, and it’s easier to pull of with a bigger girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:16 AM
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Taller than me and thick, a little excess weight is no biggie. Small nose, pretty lips, round cheeks. Big bonus for gorgeous, flamboyant hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:00 PM
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I care about my partners career, not as much about the amount of money she’s making but her approach to work, her ethics and whether she produces something of value. Bonus points for passion and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:28 PM
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Yeah I’d feel offended but I have moments like that as well sometimes, so I get what you’re feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:36 AM
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Why would anyone kiss my ass in the non-literal sense dawg? Why would anyone in this world pretend to like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:40 PM
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No, and why would that be the case? If someone chooses to date me, why would they be anything but kind to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:13 PM
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I guess those that have already hit on me and who I chose to be with don’t count, you miserable incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:45 PM
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Because I still dont want them to be openly discriminated and face negative comments
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:08 PM
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I used to be mad about that but not anymore, now I just look at myself and other men and demand the same standard that I wish women to present. Who said that…?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:01 PM
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I’ve been with a couple of girls, both slim and fat, and I don’t see all that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:44 PM
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I don’t see it that way, I’ve dated girls who were slim or on the fatter side, and I just always felt better with the taller and heavier ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:41 PM
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In my book its like this: Thicc > slightly overweight > slim >>>>> morbidly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:40 PM
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Maybe I didn’t manage to convey it well enough. I’m aware of that, and I think if I want to fight the short male jokes, I should prevent my gender from making fat female jokes. The “jokes” part is what I have a problem with, not the lack of attraction itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:28 PM
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I get that logic but if that was true, I’d also be more open to girls with facial deformities of sorts, which I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:23 PM
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“the unquestionable assumption that child-looking women are sexy” don’t try fighting discrimination with discrimination. For me the difference between sweet, chubby girl and a mad fat woman is the way they address other types of women in the public space. You can love yourself without bringing others down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:19 PM
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That’s what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:46 PM
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Yeah, it might be it. Just like women who have a checklist for a potential partner, some men might just look for a girl who others will like for them. It’s very sad but probably a good explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:38 PM
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There’s a comment above in which someone made a distinction between being mad at someone’s preferences and what I actually mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:32 PM
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I’m very sorry to hear that. It’s usually pointless to just suggest therapy, because it’s expensive. So instead, I hope you get yourself sorted out in the most efficient way available. Will it be therapy, finding a hobby, working out, changing a line of work or finding someone special (maybe just a friend)- I hope something significant is in your way. All the best to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:18 PM
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Do you mean you agree with OP, or you’re trying to say that he has a common, off-putting mindset that often drives women away?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:05 PM
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Another idea: a submissive person won’t express their actual needs at all and will expect you to guess everything out of thin air, a dominant person would be like you described, and somewhere in between is the person we both seem to be after?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:45 PM
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You’re an especially driven, hard-working person. Most people, by definition, aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:42 PM
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That does make more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:10 PM
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Instagram is a little fart in that aspect in comparison to TikTok, the most powerful platform in terms of mind manipulation. Its example should never be omitted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:14 AM
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Sorry but this is a step too far, at his point I know you can’t be serious. I’ll admit though, I was baited for a good part of the convo, so cudos to you for that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:58 AM
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I fucked around, yes, specifically with strong, smart women, it was fun and I wouldn’t swap it for a stupid doll doing everything I say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:44 AM
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I am a man but I might have stirred judgement. I just have better experiences with women who know what they want than with those who dont
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:42 AM
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I started online dating after my social skills have been trampled by an unfortunate immigration event, and my usage of it had increased during covid. Now I try to refrain from using them, since I believe I’m socially competent enough to make it IRL. I hope I’ll turn out to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:49 AM
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This makes me wanna throw up, honestly. I hope I’ll never be weak enough to need this kind of treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:18 AM
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I think you’re oversimplifying it, I think you’re just dominant and need someone submissive, and it’s not like all women and men are that way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:17 AM
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I’m sorry I should have been more careful: I meant that very masculine men aren’t all leaders, though they try to be. I’m not referring to you specifically. Hope you didn’t feel like I was belittling your achievements
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:15 AM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:02 AM
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No, all people are on a spectrum on feminine and masculine traits, and pretending that they shouldn’t because otherwise the world is going to collapse is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:00 AM
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Wait what? So if you were agreeable, and she was dominant, where was the interference? Why was there any problem in the process of decision making?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:57 AM
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I’ve heard this opinion at least twice in this tread before, and it’s funny and terrifying to realize that men really don’t want to be challenged “too hard”. I imagine in most cases, in the western society “too much” of a challenge would be doing anything besides working and then drinking beer on a couch. I’m saying this as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:55 AM
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“You’re the lead man among men” more like: you try to be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:53 AM
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A submissive woman will be needy and complain to you all the time. It won’t be much of a peaceful situation. A dominant one will tell you exactly what she thinks is wrong, and will be a team player. I’ll take the second one every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:51 AM
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I don’t think it’s such a simple extension in all cases, but it might be in part. I, for instance, like gentle femdom, but rather than a househusband I’d like to be an actual equal partner (making a similar amount of money, having our chores split evenly without m h regard to “feminine” and “masculine” ones where it’s not necessary)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:49 AM
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You’re making a very important point. I feel like I overdid it with confidence a couple of times, and ended up becoming intimate and close with women who then would be completely indifferent to my emotional needs that I’d been hiding from them automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:45 AM
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I’m my case it’s complex. I want to be more of a manager than a leader (those are two different roles in psychology of systems) and a protector at times when it’s needed. I’d maybe like to become a manager or a small entrepreneur of some sort, or work with people in general in the future, it’s inspiring to me. But I wouldn’t want to date a woman who earns much less money than I do. In bed I like to be submissive way more than to be dominant, but at the same time I’ve proven countless times that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:41 AM
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Well I’m tired of the whole “boohoo patriarchy makes all men privileged” story
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:43 AM
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Nah, they don’t have it worse than women, if that’s what you’re suggesting. Basically they have it equally bad. Women have it in the following way: first smooth sailing through tons of guys to pick from, while having their emotional needs filled by friends and family in ways men are expected not to use, they can have a career if they want to (in my country most teachers, doctors and lawyers are females). Their suffering is located in how for them dating is often dangerous, often from the start, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:33 AM
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Sooo… do you mind sharing the perfect numbah?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:13 AM
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This post is very important. Let’s divide what sex is into two categories: animalistic and humane. In animalistic sense, watching HD porn on a high-speed internet and wanking off is almost EXACTLY like having sex with the most beautiful woman you can imagine. Research shows that your brain react in exactly the same way, as it would in contact with a beautiful woman. But does it make a man happy? No. First off: in an evolutionary sense, human brains are not wired for constant sex with the most at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:31 PM
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And why wouldn’t one want to barely make a living off of some dead-end job, and spend the rest of their life jerking off? Sex isn’t just about making your pee pee feel good. Sex is about status. About undeniable masculinity. It’s like a “I’m manly and competent” stamp, and the more you get, the more confident you are. Everyone can afford watching porn. But if you’re out with a hot girl, if you’re known as someone who frequently has sex, what does it say about you? I’ll tell you what: “Whatever i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:14 PM
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What? How does having an attractive partner make you feel bad about yourself? Isn’t it nice to think that they may be seeing something in you that you’re not seeing yourself, that you’re just attractive but for less obvious and visible reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:24 PM
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Would you prefer to date a guy with looks that are 10/10 and you’re just kind of compatible when it comes to important stuff, or a guy 5/10 that makes you laugh uncontrollably like a horse, is amazing to be around and has some fascinating things to talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:07 PM
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Obviously that was just another example, I’m talking about anything that we deem attractive, that the person hasn’t had a chance to work on and doesn’t make us fit them in some important way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:03 AM
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Yes, I understand you, I went through something similar and I regret it. I wish I had focused on studying, working on my hobbies and forming valuable, non-romantic relationships with people I cared about. That would have definitely been the best road to getting what I want out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 10:00 AM
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I mean, yeah, if we’re taking about how it influences male and female chances in dating, I agree that within that context it doesn’t matter. It’s just something that in my view would make the world a better place by not existing. I really appreciate your kindness. There’s a side to me that’s aware of the fact that to some people I’m more than enough, and thanks to that I’ve had some great romantic and sexual relationships so far. But there’s also the self-doubting, societally oriented side, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:14 AM
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I strongly dislike the way we’re wired as humans. And I’m not a hypocrite. I’m talking about myself, too. I hate the fact that I drool seeing a busty girl, and I genuinely have thoughts of wanting her to find me desirable. Even if said individual does absolutely nothing to improve herself and we have nothing in common. It’s just little things, that are so stupid and don’t make sense in what we perceive as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:03 AM
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I’m responding to Synovex but I think you should read the response too, check below
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:48 PM
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You’re both kinda right. The ideal is: a man desired by everyone, but responding only to the elite. I’m cringing while writing this response, because to me that’s repulsive, but I also strongly believe that to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:46 PM
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They don’t, much of the time. Women want casual sex, too, and those who do (usually attractive) get fucked by the same small number of very attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:43 PM
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“Get what she wants” what do you mean? Either she’s attracted to you or not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:36 PM
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You think? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:28 PM
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Mostly about dating, yes, but I don’t think casual sex depends entirely on looks, either. Mostly? Yes. Entirely? No. People tend to forget, that sexual attraction doesn’t only stem from physical things: for instance, straight women are sometimes attracted to things like intelligence, being well-witted, status (don’t mistake for money, which is often related, but doesn’t have even a bit of the effect status has), and not only like: “Welp, he’s ugly, but that makes him a husband material”. No! The…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:27 PM
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Yeah, and I will say there is a component that I don’t think has been mentioned yet: most men want to feel like if they wanted to, they could be a player, and that’s more important than the sex itself. I think a better explanation to men’s approach to sex that what Sword provided, is that yes, they do want a committed relationship, but only when they’re proven to themselves just how well they can do. And create body count, or at least some equivalent of it, that includes things like a girl laugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:06 PM
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You’re just being optimistic. Actually, I kinda love it. Upvote
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:44 PM
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Why do you think that might be? Are you sure you’re not biased?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:43 PM
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I understand. It might be a little different where I live, and also I have upper middle class parents who owe multiple property so I don't think about it that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:13 PM
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I feel like what you're saying is a very cherishable perspective, but I also think the assumptions such as the ones you desribe don't appear out of thin air either. I think social media atually made peolpe perceive themselves and each other differently, and while some [like the ones you seem to be surounded by] have held their ground and remained wholesome and human, it may not be a rule anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:09 PM
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It's scary that you're saying that, you're describing like 33% of men easily. Is a third of the men really unable to fulfill their regular, human ambitions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:54 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by adverse selection in this case? Are you saying that an average woman on OLD is less attractive than general average, but the males take what they can? If not, what do you mean, and how is Hinge different? Why would that happen with the OLD women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:43 PM
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This is, I think, an important observation, but nonetheless unrelated phenomeon. I think some of the attractive guys- those who are also narcissistic- might be prone to psychological manipulation. I've seen couples like the one you described on social media, and they're usually attention-seeking and toxic. The woman does something like this: ​ She understands that the guy is out of her league, and is proud and loud about it, which validates the dude's big ego. If he had a beautiful girl, the wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:37 PM
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I think out of the women who were very much into me, the one that had the strongest feelings and appreciated me in the greatest number of aspects of my person was also the most attractive one. She was sure she wanted a relationship, and kept meeting up with me even after I said all I wanted was FWB. And I'm a balding manlet. Most girls were uglier than her, but I've recently openly been hit on by another, more attractive girl, and it has happened a couple more times in the past, so I don't think…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:25 PM
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please explain the abbreviations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:08 PM
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This brings another question around: can it be, that confidence really is more attractive than many unattractive men deem it? I think most men think: “I have confidence, but it doesn’t work because of my looks”, when in reality, instead of confidence, they have one or more of the following: -generic, non-genuine, supposedly impressive interests -an attitude of slightly overdoing it in a way they think doesn’t give away their insecurity (I witnessed it personally, probably several times) -somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:59 PM
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This is a limited, but nonetheless valuable perspective, thank you (upvote)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:51 PM
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I am inclined to agree with passepar2, but the upvote goes to you- for being a culturally sophisticated gentleman and responding accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:47 PM
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Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:35 PM
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That's interesting. Maybe I should define the unattractiveness in more detail: most of the women I put in the unattractive brackets had really nice faces, dressed well and were intelligent, involved people to talk to, but just overweight. I just described an average girl who would be actively interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:13 PM
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This is exactly why I HATE the way sex workers are being treated right now. Yes you are using your body in a way you’re entitled to, like everybody else. I understand that. But at the same time you’re harming society, and this is something no one seems to dare to point out. It’s ok, just because you have the right to do it? Somehow there’s so many things that this rule doesn’t apply to. I respect sex workers as free-willed human beings, but not much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:45 AM
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“Aforementioned” my vocab is growing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:42 AM
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One thing being raised as a spoiled bastard who thinks he’s better than anybody else was, that even though I was a short, skinny boy, in high school in absolutely no way have I ever shown a sign of lack of confidence, I wrote poems, I played drums, I acted in the school theatre. And I assumed girls will wanna have me. And I was right, a lot of times. The effect of this trait has been going up and down for me in the last couple years, and is at this point rather low, but the experience I gained a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:36 AM
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I feel like I’ve been in group 1 and, partly by choice and partly not, I’ve been in group 2 for a couple of months now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:18 AM
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I think considering this a rule is wrong, obviously the 6’3 chad has more options but not taking into account things like commitment, sources of attraction different than looks and just human conscience is a fallacy. I do agree that many people nowadays have a tendency to treat dating as a game in which you try to win as much as possible with as little as you’ve got, but all around me I can see couples to which this rule obviously doesn’t apply- and I’m happy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:01 PM
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It doesn’t work that way, I see the differences in takes on that matter in purely public discourse, unrelated to women’s personal relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:58 PM
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So you’re saying all women like big dicks, but some lie about it and some are honest? I don’t think there’s a good reason to think that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:40 PM
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Why would they be honest about one superficial thing, and dishonest about another, equally superficial one?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:38 PM
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That’s bullshit. One, I’ve come across women openly admitting to their dick size preference, so if they happen to have it they’re not embarrassed. Two, somehow this supposed rule doesn’t apply to height at all, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:22 PM
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It’s no rule, I’ve had a female friend talk to me about how big dicks are the best and certain sizes don’t satisfy her. Obviously it was so embarrassing for me to later have sex with her, since I wasn’t in her brackets. Women in our society do have every right to bodyshame men, and rarely will anyone point it out to them that it’s wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:21 PM
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